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Casual sex is too risky these days. Depending on what state she lives in, sex with even a spouse can result in a pregnancy that ends up killing a woman. If you're living in a red state, those days are over.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:52 AM
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Mommy and grandma were from a time when women were either forced or socially pressured into getting married. Times have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:59 PM
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So? Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:07 PM
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Agreed. Losers are a thing, and they're just going to make women's lives worse for being in them. The best thing a loser can do is keep from burdening other people, at least. One miserable person is better than two.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:59 PM
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While we're not equal by nature, technology has progressed to the point where much of our shortcomings can be made up for without needing another person. That's created a dynamic wherein the party with the most amount of needs requiring another person will feel the most lack. Let's also be clear that one party in this scenario is claiming to have a need for the other party to fully submit to them for the remainder of their lives, which is as close to "everything" as one can get. Why would anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 12:10 PM
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Are you going to exempt these men from paying taxes? Are you going to offer them anything? There's nothing to offer. They'll contribute to society or be ostracized from it. That's it. And if they want to act up over it they have their choice of either a prison cell, padded cell, or grave. That's what men can expect going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:35 AM
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Bull. Men are only friends with women who they could fuck. If he says he's developing "feelings" for her it's a lie. All of his perceived "better" options have fallen through. He's only bailing, and not entertaining the fact that romantic feelings can fade, because sex is all he ever wanted from her. And if she believes it really was about his feelings, it leaves an opportunity for him to weasel back into her life as a "friend" later on when he thinks he might have another chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:28 AM
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Women don't need men's money. This argument is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:53 AM
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Listen guy, all men are unique. No one can want something they don't know exists, so all men have to be considered on a case by case basis. Things like how a man smells (not his colonge, his natural body odor) has a lot of important information to a woman. If that, and a multitude of other things, can neither be measured or duplicated then what women find attractive can't either. It's all random chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 10:58 PM
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There are different types of attraction (I'm on mobile, but look up "different kinds of attraction" to verify). It seems like men's sexual attraction is informed (not necessarily solely) by their aesthetic attraction, or rather, men want to have sex with women they find attractive. I'm not sure, but it seems like all types of attraction inform men's sexual attraction. Well then, it must be jarring to learn that women can experience any of the kinds of attraction without ever feeling sexually att…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:41 PM
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He goes on to say that she has to be perfect in social situations. Perfection is impossible. He's either going to end up alone or an abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:00 PM
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Luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:24 PM
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Check out r/attachment_theory. It's a great community.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 12:57 AM
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Yes it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 05:33 PM
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What are you doing here if not to debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:50 PM
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Right, and I'm saying that in a debate you don't pull punches. If it's not men's fault, prove it. That's how debates work. They're not friendly. You're either right, as in factually correct in ways that have been proven and can be referenced, or your wrong, as in unable to effectively attack your opponent or defend your own argument. Sorry, this sub pisses me off with how lax it is. Maybe there should be a purple pill discussion sub for people to play patty-cake in while the people interested in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:58 PM
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This isn't a discussion, it's a debate. This is a debate sub. You don't tell me not to say something. You offer counterpoints that explain why I'm wrong, then defend your own argument from my counterpoints. There's only winning and losing in a debate, there's nothing friendly about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:57 AM
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I'm not sure if this is a problem worth thinking about because it has no solution. We're not going to be giving men what they want. So, now we should be thinking about how to remain productive without human labor, which isn't very hard with automation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:17 PM
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I guess so. It's all their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:18 PM
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Yeah yeah, I can read a sidebar too. The "women's nature" men got sold was garbage meant to sell movie tickets and magazines. They don't care about you. They've never cared about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 10:01 PM
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As though every man was supposed to have a girlfriend and women deserve "blame" for not doing their "jobs". Men's spaces are only negative if they're entertaining this expectation instead of crushing it. The economy created the manosphere, false hope in misguided expectations is what powers it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:52 PM
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But this all ties back to that. Yes, men can refuse to interact with women due to the refusal to reciprocate with what men want. However, the reason for the refusal in the first place is still a reason men both understand and agree with. The frustration men feel towards women is a phenomenon with no explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:34 PM
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I'd need to know the basis for your earlier assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:14 PM
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Yup, all the way. Round em all up, you figured it out. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:05 PM
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You mean like opening doors and stuff like that. Is this not an act of passive aggression, though? Regardless of the reasons why or whether or not it's deserved, it's a negative reaction, isn't it? And if it is, going back to my previous point, why is that so when men understand and agree with women's decision not to have children they can't afford?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 09:04 PM
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Punitive might be the wrong word. I'm not sure if there is a word for it. Men both understand and agree that having children one can't afford to support is a bad idea. However, despite this, the response to the real-world effects of this decision is being met with passive aggressiveness. The special privileges you speak of are common courtesy, yet it's being conflated as a "want" that needs to be denied in retaliation for being denied their "wants". Again, based on a decision they both understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:02 PM
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Men like this say they want "love", but what they really want is unconditional emotional intimacy. Without getting too much into psychology, it's neither normal nor acceptable to feel that way. It's indicative of a problem that can't be solved with a relationship, and in fact, is often the reason they fail. Anyone, man or woman, shouldn't pursue any kind of relationship until those feelings are reconciled first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:32 PM
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Noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:59 PM
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That's not collectivism, and therefore, isn't traditionalism. Your view of history is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:56 PM
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The wisdom of the past was applicable only for that time, in that part of the world, for people with beliefs that no longer exist. We need to live in the world we have, not the world we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:54 PM
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Explain yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:48 PM
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Reactionaries view all societal changes as decline. Of the status quo? Yes. But one has to combine the "ship of theseus" paradox with the "no true scotsman" argument in order to "explain" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:48 PM
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Traditional belief systems. I don't think tradcons want a conversation, they want someone to listen to them. But they're not willing to either make a point or defend it, so there's no conversation to be had. Tradcons need to make a legal case for their argument if they want a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:42 PM
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No, it's definitely not considered love by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:28 PM
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They're obsolete, a product of circumstances long dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:22 PM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:17 PM
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Argue in good faith, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:16 PM
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Men in the west are having a hard time socially, but everyone else seems to be doing just fine. The idea that a shift in dynamic is akin to collapse is just reactionary and not worth entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:14 PM
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I disagree. What you're describing is collectivism, the sacrificing of one's individuality in favor of adhering to a social doctrine. Puritans were collectivist, definitely not 1950's Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:07 PM
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I'd forgotten all about Enron. I guess I got lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:05 AM
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Yeah, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 05:03 AM
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I graduated high school 2003. I'd even had a job for the last two years of high school that gave me raises and health insurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:50 AM
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No, I would've been in high school at that time. I only just heard about it, but didn't experience any shockwaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:39 AM
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It takes two incomes now, unless one wants to live in utter squalor. And even then, it'd still be irresponsible to start a family in that kind of precarious job situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:34 AM
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Just because we take women off the pedestal and don’t give them special privileges we are labeled woman haters. If we agree that women are smart for not starting families they'll struggle to support, then there's no reason for punitive measures as they're making a wise decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:26 AM
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For me, it all changed after 2008. I'd never personally been effected by the dotcom bubble or anything until then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:16 AM
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A man without a job is missing a basic requirement for all adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:13 AM
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The bigger picture being that fewer traditional families are bad, which I'm not, nor have ever been convinced is the case. The stance seems to be, "It's good because it's traditional". That's not an acceptable argument. It has to be demonstrated why what we have right now, in these current circumstances, isn't as good as what's being proposed. It's this or continue to have people fail to see "the big picture".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:09 AM
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I wasn't aware, I'm one of the older millennials.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 04:02 AM
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I think those guys get screwed because they want to be married more than they want to have a family. They're living proof that times are not conducive with romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:58 AM
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And that's bad because...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:54 AM
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I mean the "provider" role is gone. Dead. All the things a provider was merrited for doing are now things every adult is required to do. That makes them the bare minimum, meaning what would've been men's greatest contribution to society won't be recognized as even remotely noteworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:54 AM
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Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:46 AM
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I think broadening the provider role is the sole reason it's been diminished and emasculated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:36 AM
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This is an economic issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:24 AM
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If it's instant messaging, I wouldn't expect to have a "conversation" like what you're probably suggesting. The platform just doesn't allow for the flow of a real conversation that could happen over the phone or in person. If I were writing a letter I would put every last bit of information I wanted to convey, then send it off. That's not how conversations work, but given the circumstances I would have to adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:31 AM
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It sounds like your problem is with narcs, not women. Or maybe how the bar for what is and isn't child abuse is too low due to an underfunded, understaffed and counterproductive CPS system.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:20 AM
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It is. But men today have to carve that path, and without the support from older generations. It's a thankless task they didn't ask for, but it's how it is. Either they do it or the next generation will, making this generation of men a self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:11 PM
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Oh, thank you so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:01 PM
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You replied to a "calling out a dumbass that doesn't belong here" attempt. You're one of the reasons this sub has become what it has.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:56 PM
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You know this a debate sub, right? You sure you're in the right place? All your other subs get banned, or what lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:52 PM
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Good effort. Bravo. So fucking smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:47 PM
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This is because high value men with options... Thanks sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:45 PM
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But not only does he not want to fulfill her non-sexual needs without the guarantee of sex, she'll fulfill her own needs if it means not having to owe sex. Women don't seem to understand this side of the male psyche, though. We understand, but the only solution men propose is to hobble ourselves so trading sex for the fulfillment of her needs becomes necessary. Men don't understand that sex for fulfillment of needs is like spending your life savings on something free.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:57 PM
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Ok, then. Women, having a difficult time achieving orgasm from PIV sex, are more likely to view masturbation as an acceptable, if not superior, alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:13 PM
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Well, there ya go. Women prefer masturbation to sex. Makes perfect sense. Spread the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:40 PM
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An orgasm is an orgasm, regardless of whether it's alone or with another person. A better question would ask what causes the extreme opposite attitudes towards masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:46 PM
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Neither needs the other. Men need women to feel like men. Without them, they fall short in meeting the unspoken milestones that qualify a person for adulthood. They must graduate school, go to college, buy a home, get married, have kids, turn 40, retire at 62 and have a well-attended funeral. A woman can meet all of these milestones by herself or choose not to meet them at all. The quality of her character will never be questioned by what she chooses because each has a viable path to adulthood. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:21 PM
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No. Country living sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 10:43 AM
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What "stuff" do men even have that's worth my time? Anything I can get myself faster, 100% on my own terms, and with fewer risks? That's what I thought. Women like sex, but an orgasm is an orgasm, whether that be alone or with someone else. Looking for a guy are just extra steps to get to the same destination.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 10:32 AM
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As long as marriage remains a rite of passage it's not going anywhere. We need markers for adulthood, and if we can't own homes or get jobs, marriage and kids will be all we have. IMO this is not ideal. People getting married just to fulfill a narrative are why there are so many divorces. Take away every incentive and you have a fewer marriages, but the ones we will have will be authentic and their children cherished.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 10:18 AM
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No. Facebook is for people you've already met in person. Depending on her privacy settings, there might be personal information she wouldn't want him to have without her adding him as a friend first. Dating apps are where women go for online dating, but the reasons she would've used it are being subverted by men. Where she could've determined whether she was compatible with a guy she now has to sift through tailored bios and professionally lit photos. Where she could've kept from being bogged do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:52 PM
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Nice effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:39 PM
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No. We only get jealous over men we like, as in have a crush on, which can be anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:36 PM
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For me, 100%. Because it's not just the kid. It's the kid's mother, grandparents, cousins, friends, pets, etc. Holidays are going to be hectic. And God forbid the kid should get attached, or vice versa, and the relationship ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:06 PM
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Men rent where their women find acceptable. Single men rent where it's financially beneficial. So they have to pay more to live somewhere to make her happy. Yeah, a place big enough to accommodate both of them is going to cost more than somewhere smaller. Living with someone somewhere too small for two people would make anyone unhappy. Car payments are quite cheap when you're not buying cars to attract women, and men do this across all dumb shit. Clothes, haircuts, cars, apartments, toys, etc., …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 01:31 AM
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So that why it seems asymmetrical. If a guy is going to blow all his money (which women don't) on a relationship, he'd prefer there to be some chance in his fevered mind she'll stick around. You're entire premise is based on this, that men are "blowing their money on a relationship". The things you're talking about, that he's blowing all his money on, he would pay for regardless. Rent, car payments, utilities, gas, cell phone, medical bills, prescriptions, etc, are non-negotiable. You would pay …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:59 AM
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There's a difference between supporting a husband who makes less and not being attracted to him for making less. a woman who makes $100,000 a year still might not be attracted to him due to female hypergamy. How could you tell the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 08:54 PM
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No, that's not what I mean. We use virginity, relationships and marriage as rites of passage. Those that might be fine being single or waiting will feel pressured to rush into relationships if only so they can be seen as an adult. It's understated just how important rites of passage are, so unless relationships are replaced with something better, heterosexual relationships both are and are not beneficial. If relationships were just relationships then people would have no other reason to get toge…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:44 PM
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Heterosexual relationships these days are only important because it's a de facto rite of passage. If it wasn't for that they'd be rarer, and IMO, more meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:16 PM
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No, because her being at home means a higher chance of paternity certainty. He can't lose. But she does, because that doesn't apply to her. Without that benefit the guy is nothing but a freeloader.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:35 AM
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Even when women have access to resources via a good job or inheritance/whatever, they still largely expect men to be breadwinners. Now why is that? Men only assume it's because of his resources because he can't understand her perspective. Consider how you'd see things differently if you didn't have to worry about paternity certainty. “she’s just being taken advantage of?” For what? Sex? I can’t tell if you’re pedestalizing women, or reducing their value to only being good for sex and nothing els…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:12 AM
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"Benefit" as in how men benefit from women making less than him. He benefits from having control over her sexuality where she doesn't need control over his.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 03:28 AM
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Ok, let me clarify. My view is with the understanding that women don't need men for money. This sub tends to agree on this when pressed, but then keeps going back to the same argument. I disagree with the notion that women don't date down, in terms of money, solely because women are gold digging. She has that option, but the majority of women don't take it. In reality, she doesn't date down because that's a tactic men use to control women. It doesn't work with the roles reversed. The purpose doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 03:08 AM
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My entire OP is based on the premise that I already disagree. Obviously I have to be aware of something to disagree with it. I can reread it as many times as I want, and I will still disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:29 AM
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If she's supporting a full grown man when he could be contributing to the household she's being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:24 AM
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I disagree, for all the reasons copy and pasted from the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:21 AM
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Yeah, that's peace. We do have those that want war, but they're outnumbered by those that see no reason to upset the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:17 AM
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No. Sometimes views are directly opposed. Sometimes there is no compromise possible. When that happens the only solutions are peace, concession or war. Don't talk about it, adopt the other side's beliefs or attempt to destroy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:58 AM
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Yes, that was implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:55 PM
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Women are attracted to status, hence the traits that could signal status (confidence, wealth, mentality etc.) No. Women are attracted to whoever they're attracted to. Some use their looks as an opportunity to marry upwards, hence attractive women tend to congregate around successful men, but for him it's not a guarantee of regular sex, happiness, fidelity, etc. It's a good way to ensure one is never single, but that's it. Just by being around someone for a while they’ll develop an attraction for…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 02:25 PM
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You're terrible at getting your point across. Waste someone else's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:20 PM
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No. If simply existing for ourselves is akin to "wishing psychological pain" then so be it. Men need to start adapting to how things are now. Or not, it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:11 PM
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A lot of rights isn't equal rights. We want the right to act irrespective of men. That means putting our own wants above men's expectation of the relationships they saw in the movies. Gilded cages are still cages. The world needs more men that understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:46 PM
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For me, it's all about maintaining my skin. I use astringents, moisturize, use a tinted sunscreens and use face masks. Bringing out natural beauty can be just as taxing as using makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:24 AM
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Did you remain consistent with your requirements or not? Very consistent when it comes to appearance. My second question(s) is: If there's a who guy struggled with getting dates/sex during his youth due to some undesirable physical trait such as being short, balding at an early age etc. and you would for a fact have ignored him then, is it reasonable of him to be upset if now the older version of you would date him? No. It's unreasonable to expect anyone not to live their lives to appease someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:07 AM
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I want her to be happy, and she is. I just don't want her to consider other guys for sex because of my size. These are contradictory statements. True love means being able to put others above yourself. You don't love her, you love what she does for you. You're a terrible boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:15 PM
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Your values suck, though. That's why my culture's so popular with women. Watching full grown men break down over having to wipe their own asses is a pro that outweighs every con combined. Yeah, coming to a country near you, cabron.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:11 PM
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And you're saying that the opposite of that, which would logically be a woman that either breaks up and dates someone shorter, or won't break up no matter what, isn't hypergamy. So just make sure you don't date attractive men or only stay with the first man you get with and you too can be "not hypergamous". And this is good thing for women, why? Seems like trying to convince someone they need something they didn't ask for. It's almost like it's not for their benefit at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:03 PM
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Neither. Chicks breaking up with dudes and getting with other dudes isn't "hypergamy". It is if you really think women should be staying with the first man they get with, which is an absurd thing to believe. Explain what's so damn virtuous about such a relationship, accept that the vast majority of relationships aren't virtuous, and reserve judgment for the fifty or sixty couples worldwide that do meet your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:58 PM
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I'm sorry, do you live in a country where women have to give two shits what men say? Sounds like a shit hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:45 PM
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Why? Don't like it? Break up with her. There are guys out there with dicks bigger than that dildo. You don't think your girlfriend can't do better than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 01:41 PM
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"Let" her buy? She doesn't have to listen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 07:31 AM
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It's a good rule of thumb. Hasn't been wrong since.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 10:39 PM
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Not really. It makes him more interesting, if one is interested in the type of achievement. If not, it can be a deal breaker. Like, if a guy is a champion golf player and the girl gives two shits about golf.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 10:38 PM
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No, of course not. This is to add perspective to the "battered women should just leave" rhetoric I was seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 04:49 PM
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Is she relatively young? If so, she might've had an abusive childhood. Kids go through the same thing battered wives do, except they don't know any different, having grown up with it. She might've gotten with the first guy, but didn't get that sweet chemical cocktail she'd come to understand as a normal home. That prompted her to get with the next guy, of which would've given her the only familiarity she understands. If not, the abuser isolated her long enough to get her hooked. That's what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:08 PM
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I used to feel the same way about the women until I learned the truth. You've probably heard of PTSD. That's when dealing with stress so long makes it so a person can't function outside of a stressful environment. A continuous dose of natural stress hormones, like adrenaline and cortisol, becomes so normal that the body goes through withdrawal when they can't get it anymore. You think heroin has the worst withdrawal process? No, it's this, because it can continue for years, and there's no chemic…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 02:32 PM
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For example, let's say I want sex from a girl and she will say I am busy. And if I bring home escort, she's not going to stay with me. There are women with a high sex drive that will be down whenever you are, but it's not exactly advertised, so try to find one at you're own risk. Otherwise, assume women has a very good reason for not wanting to have sex, and that you're better off letting it go. What to do? Accept that I am nothing without money? Just source everything from those who are willing…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 09:29 AM
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How you get girls to reciprocate anything you want? You don't. You accept that as a grown man you have to be you're your own top priority. Just ask or what? Exhaust all available forms of professional assistance before asking. I know many girls who will do nothing for you unless you do something for them. As they should. You're a grown man. Not saying you don't need care, but you're in a position where you're fully capable of getting it yourself. Maybe not exactly 100% ideal care, but better tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 08:40 AM
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She'd probably think you only do what you do because you want something for it. That makes it transactional, and you're not nice at all. You don't know how to ask for what you want so you go above and beyond, hoping for someone to notice and reciprocate. Doesn't work that way, and it's on you to change it. Seriously, it's indicative of something else. Chances are, you're going to burn yourself out with resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 07:02 AM
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Your arguments are lazy. This is supposed to be a debate sub but y'all can't debate for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 01:42 AM
2

Listen, what I'm saying is one kind of archetype isn't going to be universally seen as attractive. Health however, is. Physical, mental, psychological, etc. Being ripped won't make up for all the other ways a person can be unhealthy, which will be a turn off. The better option is to get interested in being as healthy as you can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 07:12 PM
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And what about women and their shitty genes? Just stop. Stop arguing against what's never going to change. Accept it. Let it consume you. Immerse yourself in it. Feel it in your bones. It is you. Weather they are ment or not doesnt matter. What do you expect from men, to just roll over and die? Either that or they go out a worse way. Women usually bludgeon or poison men that try to subvert the natural order. Just like a pride of lions. You think a group of lionesses, who regularly take down wate…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:56 PM
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The truth was, "I don't like you, get out of my way."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:25 PM
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It can't be ignored. Biologically, the majority of males aren't necessarily meant to father the next generation. They're much more likely to die at every stage of life than females. And we don't need many to maintain genetic variation. Mind you, this applies to the majority of species on Earth. Being aware of our nature never meant we could hope to transcend it. Women having to rely on men for support was an anomaly and a mistake. It's led to a lot of men that otherwise would've never had kids p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 09:25 AM
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Why? Because he doesn't get a woman-shaped gold star for acting like an adult? Because he gets fuck all for acting like an adult. Oh yeah, I'm gonna fucking cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 05:46 AM
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Women are hundreds of years behind men if only because they recently became able to compete with them. Women, if they'd started on equal terms, would've accomplished much more. We're never going to get that time back, and without outside intervention, that mistake can never be corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:52 AM
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We already know women are behind men as far as equality goes. It's still worth doing even if the result isn't perfect. "Better for women than what we have now" is good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 12:50 AM
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I don't know about you, but my bloodlines are important. How much is enough? Never! It's not going to be enough until I've seen and judged every single man available! But hey, if you're cool with your descendants having shit genetics you try and get in the way of women doing what we're meant to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:44 PM
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Entire subreddits dedicated to figuring out how to make women date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 08:13 PM
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Ideally, all men would be on dating apps, but wouldn't be able to hype themselves up. More like a catalog. That way women would have more time to choose from every available option. Yes, please!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 05:41 PM
3

Not necessarily. An unattractive man with muscles is still an unattractive man. And high maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 05:37 PM
1

No one cares about your goals. Shut up and pay your taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 05:01 PM
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No, it's being what any non-specific woman finds attractive, and that can be anything. Women have fetishes, too. My advice: Be in places women can see you. Wait for one to find you attractive. Talk to her. Give her time to consider if you would be a good fit in in her life. If so, you have a girlfriend. If not, wait for another one. WARNING: Not guaranteed to work. Nothing is. The game is rigged against you and always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:59 PM
3

If the goal is equality, and it is, you take from the heavier side until balance is achieved. Nothing about this is unfair. What's unfair are the advantages of being heavier, which was achieved with ill-gotten means to begin with. Buddy, you've never lived a second of your life with unfairness. It would probably break you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:40 PM
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Why not, though? Do you really think women care whether a man gets laid? Who gave you that idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:02 PM
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Not to sound disingenuous, but what makes you think you're supposed to understand? The mating dance is heavily rigged against males. Maybe it's supposed to confuse you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 03:48 PM
13

“yes we only want to date 6’5” men with broad shoulders and beautiful faces. We’re willing to make endless excuses for how they treat us. And we usually will be untruthful about this behavior." I'm a woman. I have absolutely no qualms about lying to someone to get them to leave me alone. I can give a detailed synopsis, but that's counterproductive. I just want this person out of my life. I don't want to talk to him for any amount of time. I wouldn't even take the time to say I was being untruthf…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 03:44 PM
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This drips with, "I was everything she said she wanted, but still wouldn't choose me. She must've been lying." She's not lying, you're just not good enough. You might've done everything right and you're still not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 03:33 PM
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Well yeah, you take from the heavier scale and put it on the lighter side to reach equality. You can't give the heavier side anything, that's absurd. It's not discrimination, though I'm sure the process of being knocked down a few pegs is quite uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 03:17 PM
1

They're missing out. They must've drank the koolaid and think life is supposed to be happy. They need to become well-rounded individuals and embrace the melancholy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 03:09 PM
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That would a man would expect to be anyone's top priority. Obviously, care/attention is reserved for the pitiable, like the young, old, and sick/disabled. But the capable? They're on their own. You can love someone and expect them to wipe their own ass at the same time. And the tunnel vision. Like, how a man once said he shouldn't have to mop at work. Not because he's injured or something, but because he didn't like to mop. NO ONE LIKES TO MOP. That's why it's called a chore! And acts like every…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 04:26 AM
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Men are trying to scratch an itch. Whether that be because of sex drive, social standing, self esteem, etc. Women provide a lot for men, who are much more uncomfortable without them in their lives than women are without men. Women, having less urgency, appreciate handsome men, but let circumstances dictate whether they act on that attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 01:31 AM
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On the contrary. Women who didn't want men's attention, like if they're in a relationship or uninterested in whos available, it'd become a very effective tool. Like our very own "man-repellent", which if existed, would be in every women's purse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 04:34 AM
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I said fuck all about marriage, genius. The collective female exists to choose which males reproduce and which ones don't. Nothing about us is meant to be sympathetic towards males. They're on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 04:25 PM
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Women are supposed to put men through the ringer. We're trying to weed out the weak, it's what we do. I don't know why men don't consider that women's bloodlines are important to them. They are, too important to sacrifice them out of pity for any man, regardless of how much he thinks he "deserves" It. You can consolidate all of your complaints into one simple statement: Women have never been on your side. I'm not sure why generation after generation of men don't just get that and move on with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 01:12 PM
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Marriage has gone from sacred, to just a thing you were supposed to do, to just a way to get a tax break. It's still seen as a rite of passage, which is why so many people still do it. But now it's because the couple has sentimental value to one another. Divorces today are because people dont necessarily know what they're getting into. There's still a bit of the old societal pressure at play, telling people that marriage and kids are the key to happines. Eventually marriage will be an expression…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 11:51 PM
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A lot of fathers, who do live with children and wives don't take active part in raising children, so I'm not sure that we even should count all of these households as two parents and not as just a mother and a guy, who lives with them. This. Right. Here. Just because a man lives with his children doesn't mean he's a father. Every woman that has to do even one percent more than 50% OF ACTUAL PARENTING is a single mother. Men like this mean even less than a check and a phone call because the kids …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:50 PM
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I can't want something unless I see it first, and no two men are the same. I don't know necessarily know exactly what I'm attracted to when a man catches my eye. It's the sum of what the man is rather than this or that trait. In other words, I'm attracted to what I'm attracted to. Sometimes it's just enough that I saw him and not the better looking guy behind him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:16 AM
1

Respect is the proportionate response, a reflection, of how others perceive us. It's been stated plenty of times here that there is no hard definition of respect. It is basically, "the consequences of behaving respectably", with the understanding that respect means something different to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 01:58 PM
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FDS is about screening men and manipulating long term partners Women are supposed to screen men. And if men don't want to be manipulated by a woman they can always just break up with her. Simple. PUA is concerned about self improvement and actually attracting, entertaining and connecting (albeit superficially) with women. FDS is not concerned about either. Women don't have to put effort into attracting men. PUA advocates for manipulation for short term dating, FDS advocates for manipulation for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 08:24 AM
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Any girl with the guy you like. Other than that, there's no shortage of thirsty men. Enough for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 07:08 AM
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I think certain elements are used to getting away with that kind of thing, but they can't forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 11:21 PM
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We wouldn't be compatible. Better to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:34 AM
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Basically, let go of marriage, at least as you know it. Those days are over but it's not the end of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:32 AM
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I wouldn't care what he wanted. He can wait until I want to see him again. If he doesn't like it it doesn't matter. I'm a woman, I don't have to go far to seek out good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:32 PM
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No, because the best mates only matter in terms of genetics. Our reproductive systems are only concerned with creating a child that has a firm genetic foundation. That's as far as planning goes. Say what you will, but as far as our bodies are concerned, the fittest only have to pass on their genes to be considered fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:26 PM
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This speaks more to women who don't want marriage or children. If a woman just wants a ONS it doesn't matter how he treats her, she's probably not planning on seeing him again. If it were me, a man like you're describing probably isn't going to be interested in me after the first night. Of all the things a woman can be afraid of when it comes to hooking up with men, I won't have to worry about that with him. That's a quality booty call man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:16 PM
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I think we'll end up with a lot of dead, imprisoned, exiled or "Guantanamo'd" domestic terrorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:29 PM
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Peacock tails look the way they do to demonstrate fitness. If they're too cumbersome the peacock will likely die without passing on their genes, making it so only the strongest males mate. Because that's the point, to weed out the chaff. EVERY SPECIES only needs a certain number of males to maintain the population without inbreeding, and it's always less than what's available. That's why men are more likely to die at every stage of life, even gestation when all things are equal. Males weed thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 10:31 AM
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Who cares what men say?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:55 AM
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Depending on how old you are it's been in the works possibly before you were born. It's bigger than you, can't you realize that??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:54 AM
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What men say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:52 AM
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Women are established enough now that they don't have to abide by it. They have no power.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:50 AM
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It's not like the only option besides traditional marriage is the end of relationships altogether. What men will miss is having control over women, as marriage is the only possible way these days. That'll lead to even more backlash, but it's indefensible. The rule of law is a thing, and nothing short of a coup will change that. Men should save themselves the trouble and try to adapt to egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:37 AM
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Not eugenics, natural selection. Say what you will, but women's inborn processes for choosing men is superior to anything we could come up with. It works the way it does for a REASON. We WANT the next generation to be fitter than their parents. It's far superior to simply matching men and women for the sake of "fairness" to men. He should be more concerned with quality than quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:10 AM
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This is all based on the assumption that civilization will collapse unless men have a woman to marry. The patriarchy will collapse, but what replaces it won't necessarily be matriarchy or worse than what we have now. It'll definitely be better for women. As for your overall question, no. There's no way to make the patriarchal ideal attractive to women. We want the freedom to live irrespective of men's desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:01 AM
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Don't know, don't care. It comes up once in a while but it's not something worth much consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:33 AM
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BPW. I think it's a shorthand way of saying, "Don't be annoying", without bruising any egos. This day and age, no matter how much men want to deny it, women don't need men. And since she can do everything herself she will, if only so she won't have to consider what men want. That means he's going to have to understand that he's there recreationally and not cause too much trouble or he'll get left.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 12:04 AM
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I don't think it's good idea to force women to be with men they otherwise wouldn't. There's a REASON women are picky, to ensure the next generation will survive to adulthood. Say what you will, but I don't think any artificial means will compare to a woman's ability to seek out men that'll lead to the best outcomes as far as fitness is concerned (not necessarily just physical fitness, also mental, emotional, etc.). For example, I wouldn't try to perfect the way I digest food as I believe the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 06:03 AM
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I neither want to be supported nor support anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 07:13 AM
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I don't want to be the wage slave of a women. Why would a women be entitled to my money if I am not entitled to her body? If she can make her own money, and she can at any time, why wouldn't she just do that and not have to give you anything? Further, if that's the way it is for anything a man could possibly offer, can he really expect anything from a woman ever again?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 02:13 AM
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For the men that don't, it's because women's humanity conflicts with his ability to get what he wants from her. For example, he might not ask a girl out if he's concerned with how he might be bothering her, so he doesn't concern himself. He wouldn't want to be treated like an object, so he doesn't empathize with the women he wants to objectify.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/19 09:31 AM
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Your point is based on the assumption that everyone wants to be in a relationship. And further, if one doesn't want one it's because they're a failure. I guess the only question to ask is what happens if there really are people that don't want relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 07:38 AM
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Nothing. He'll live.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 02:02 PM
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I agree. Or the flipside, that they thought they'd be dead before they'd have to suffer any consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 09:00 PM
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You missed my point completely. I mean to say that for the majority the American dream is unattainable. We're stuck in a moment in history where the old dream is gone and there isn't a new one in place yet. We should stop chasing the old dream and either wait for a new one or create it ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 04:41 PM
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It's all we'll be left with soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 04:37 PM
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We'll have to wait and see. But it's coming. Brace for impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 04:36 PM
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Says who? WHo gets to decide what is "winning"? Society. You do what it says and don't ask questions or you end up ostracized. Who would you live by the rules/expectations of others? Let alone a previous generation? Because that's how they raised us. It's all we know. Thats nonsense , take control of your life and you will see The economy is bigger than you. Society is bigger than you. There's only so much "control" one can have in a hostile environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 04:35 PM
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They should be patient and wait. Wait before jumping into marriages and having children. Don't let those things be what defines them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 04:29 PM
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Enough to tank the economy? Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 09:21 AM
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These problems are easily solvable. Increase immigration and fund sexual health care services. What men won't do will be done by either women or automation. That might lead to more deaths of despair, but what can we do? We can't go back in time. The ones that adapt will adapt and the ones that don't won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 09:12 AM
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That doesn't sound unreasonable or bitchy. That sounds like enforcing healthy boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 09:03 AM
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Apparently not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:58 AM
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Nobody knows how they'll take to things they've never done before. Exactly. Better to not drag an innocent child into that situation. It's not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:55 AM
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At the expense of the children that may or may not be born to a parent that turns out not to love them. Better to be born because you're genuinely wanted rather than because your parents were afraid to miss out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 08:41 AM
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So people should have children so that some of them will be happy about it after 50 years? Maybe??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:37 AM
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As a single childless woman? Hell yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:36 AM
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Well, we also found out the most happy people are unmarried, childless women. So that blows a big hole in that theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:26 AM
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That's the thing, we don't know if the alternative is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:24 AM
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Pretending it doesn't have the biggest population of happy people and it's just something we're "told to do" is a coping mechanism. We don't know that, and can never really know. We don't have an identical society that followed a different narrative to compare it to. All we really have are women and how they're happier now not getting married or having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:10 AM
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What's the alternative, though? Should we really assume that anything outside the narrative is bad? The old narrative was never about happiness or good outcomes. It was a way to maintain the population, that's it. And now that we have the chance to be happy we don't want it? Simply because we haven't been told it's what we're supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 07:05 AM
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We need to give up that narrative. What was useful before may not be applicable now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 06:59 AM
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We have all the power. I'll enjoy what I want to enjoy. I'll create the life I want to have. I'll work for it, I'll have to make sacrifices, but I'll make it happen and learn from all of it. I don't think this mentality is especially useful. If only because our only frame of reference is outdated and unattainable for the majority. I wouldn't determine my self worth by how fast I could shoe a horse for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 06:56 AM
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I mean as far as societal expectations. We're not going to live up to them through no fault of our own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 06:50 AM
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Harm is a strong word. It changed society, which would seem like harm to anyone that liked the way it was. The changes however, still haven't fully taken place. This generation is the first to have a completely different society to navigate. There's no other narrative to follow but the old one, no guidance, and little accommodation for singles without children. The newer generations will hopefully have more to work with in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 02:08 PM
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Attractive women get hit on a lot. All that experience helps with that. There's no magic pill. It's all chance. Don't do any of this. Sometimes a woman just doesn't want anything to do with you. Don't waste your time. Women don't act coldly to men they're interested in. Shady behavior. I wouldn't agree to this unless the guy was definitely gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:23 AM
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Yes, I believe so. Besides, men today want the relationship dynamics from 30 years ago. Marriage today would disappoint them. I believe that the shift in power dynamics between men and women meant that this was going to happen anyway. It's just that this is the first generation that has to figure out how to live outside of the previous narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 03:11 PM
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I'm not sympathetic. Women don't like being harassed. If men are afraid to approach women then women won't get harassed. Yes, that'll make it harder for men to approach women. So be it. Find another way to get a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 02:12 AM
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I saw through your bullshit. Now you're trying to get the last word. Good job. Learn how to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 02:05 AM
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Don't be dramatic. Men won't be getting the romances and home lives they saw on TV. They got the wrong idea. Too bad. Adapt to the real world happening now or get out of the way. It's not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 01:50 AM
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Why should women listen to men? Further, why should men, the gender with the least amount of bargaining power, have the audacity to ask for anything? Women don't need men anymore. It's really not within his best interests to be annoying. His only hope is to entertain a woman enough to allow him be a part of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 01:30 AM
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I guess I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 12:36 AM
1

Or men could just listen to women. That's a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 11:56 PM
1

There are socially acceptable places.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 11:55 PM
1

This is a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 11:54 PM
2

So fucking what??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 09:58 PM
1

Use your brain. Consider whether you would want to be bothered in the same situation. That's called empathy. Imagine what she wants and consider whether that's going to conflict what you want. That's called being considerate. Value her time more than you value your needs. That's called courtesy. Are you just fucking with me at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 09:57 PM
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Don't harass. Don't bother. Don't impose. Pretty much all you need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 09:51 PM
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It'll inspire men to THINK about whether a woman would want to be approached beforehand. You know, treat them like people with their own lives?? Do men really not understand that there's a big gray area between doing whatever you want and doing nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 09:45 PM
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Nah man. Online dating and social media have created the ideal market for women. Now she can sift through available men from the safety of a screen without them even knowing they're being rejected. It's perfect, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 09:38 PM
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It's of no consequence. She might as well be ranting about not being able to find a matching rug. It might be true but she'll live, so who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 09:27 PM
0

You'd rather change society so that no women ever experience discomfort, and the price for that is a growing number of incels, well, so be it! This is exactly what I believe. Women don't want to be in the kind of relationship men idealize. Of course giving women the option to opt out is going to reduce men's ability to live their ideal. Times have changed and men need to adapt. Or not, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 09:24 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 09:01 PM
1

It's not like life would be any harder for men. Ever heard of a mixer? Or functions meant specifically for singles? Imagine that, a room full of women that are there just to be approached. Ever been to a dance or a party of any kind? "I have to be in an appropriate environment to approach women!? Insanity!!!" Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:59 PM
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You mean all women are different? No kidding. Accept the chaos. Embrace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:51 PM
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I believe so. He has plenty of other options that don't involve manipulation. His goal should be to keep from imposing on any women not already looking to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:50 PM
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Males pursue. Females are pursued. It's like that with the majority of species on Earth. A woman of any value is going to be pursued by men of all types at some point in her life. Her lowered sex drive makes a LTR solely recreational and therefore, arbitrary. Meaning, that you may be right but it's not a problem for women. Why mention it all?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:46 PM
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Yet men believe it's not. In fact, some men seem to believe they have to get women's attention in any way possible to get a date. I misspoke. Approaching strangers in public isn't harassment. But it can't be ignored that men do it as a means of fulfilling an agenda. Walking into a store isn't wrong, unless you're trying to case it. They look exactly the same but the agenda changes things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:36 PM
1

Is catcalling harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:21 PM
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Do I think every woman becomes hostile? No. I become hostile, and I don't even think it could be considered hostile. I give short answers, don't smile, and maintain eye contact. Giving fake numbers inspires hope, which can be dangerous. I don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:15 PM
0

Try answering my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:09 PM
1

This is an argument for harassment, you realize that, right? Do you really not think harassment is bad? Or do you think it's only ok when a man is doing it to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 08:05 PM
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Yeah, every time. Avoidance would be a group of women all going out together or only going to gay bars, which does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:59 PM
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Around 40% of men that hit on me have kids. That's all I can say for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:57 PM
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It is, but half the population do it anyway because they care more about getting what they want than respecting other's agency. Ask any woman, it's fucking harassment. Relationships will not cease to exist if men can't approach women. That's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:53 PM
6

Yes, I do. Women start getting hit on at a young age by men of all types. We're all well-versed on what a rejected man is capable of, whether that means harassment or retaliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:48 PM
4

Of course. Being approached can look and feel like harassment. True, but those are movies. They were never meant to teach anyone to do anything. I don't blame men for emulating them, I blame men for knowing it's harassment and not stopping.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:38 PM
17

It's not so much hostility as it is self defense. Men oftentimes have this idea that they have to go jump through hoops to win a woman's affection even when she's genuinely uninterested and would rather he just move on. By putting on an air of hostility she hopes to send the message that it's just not going to happen and that he should stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:26 PM
3

Automatic no if he's in a relationship, has kids, has conflicting religious, political and societal views, and shows any signs of abusive tendencies. After all of that, someone attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:16 PM
6

The answer is incomprehensible. For me, a HVM is one that I find attractive that compliments my life and personality. Not only is that indescribable, it's dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:18 PM
3

It's not a shit storm. But you're not getting the idealized dream you thought you'd have as a kid. That's definitely dead. Which, when you think about it, is enough to see any change as a shit storm. But really, relationships will become purely recreational. People will get together because they feel like it. No societal expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:51 PM
1

I would resent a man that didn't think enough of me to take me at my word. I said no. Trying to convince and "orbit" me is him thinking that he doesn't have to listen to me. That he can still get whatever he wants by wearing me down. No, to hell with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:45 PM
4

I guarantee that if women start asking out men, they'll be successful much more often than any man would be with women. The concerns men have DO NOT apply to women. We're talking about convincing sheep to offer their meat to wolves and being like, "The sheep will starve if they can't catch the wolves!" No, no no no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:38 PM
3

No, I don't think so at all. Why are we trying to assign the previous roles to an entirely new situation? That's stupid. Women making more than men is going to be completely different than anything we've seen before. The traditional family is dead. Move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:29 PM
5

Agreed. Women don't care about how popular a man is with other people that aren't her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:19 PM
1

You're wrong that women want classically masculine men still. In today's climate, where men are no longer necessary, all they have to do is pull their own weight and stay out of the way. Really, they have to do whatever the woman requires to allow him to be a part of her life. They can't have as many options as women because the fact is that the vast majority of women never wanted to be what men wanted, they had no choice. And now that they do have the choice, men aren't getting what they want f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:07 PM
2

It's a dead end for men that want a traditional relationship. Or men that can't imagine a relationship any other way. They'll either have to create a new type of relationship themselves or commit to having no relationships at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:03 AM
2

Outdated ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 05:41 PM
1

Think about it. Right now, you think being a slut is bad because women should be wives and mothers, right? In a few generations no one is going to believe that anymore. "Slut", will be a outdated slur that means nothing to anyone. And marriage will be one of many options once one reaches adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 05:38 PM
2

The red pill is a symptom of a major culture change. Marriage and children aren't going to be the norm in twenty years. As time goes on, people will move beyond outdated standards, and the pills associated with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:32 AM
1

Men will see it as a literal magic pill to get them laid. They'll hit on every woman they see and lead with, "I'm on the pill, baby." Unfortunately, men who aren't on the pill will say the same thing, eventually making guys stop taking it since women won't respond anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 03:13 PM
1

Never forget, sex is still riskier for women than men. And with a lower sex drive, she's more willing to walk away from what looks like a less than favorable encounter. A woman would naturally care more about herself and her body than any man's ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 02:56 PM
1

Don't look to media to inform your worldview. It's not meant for that. Sorry you were mistaken, now abandon that notion immediately and start living in this reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 08:52 AM
2

No, not really. They can always import cheaper labor. They can always automate. Anyway, how long can a bunch of men go before they're on the street? They'll have screwed themselves, not society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 08:49 AM
2

Like you care about women's happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 09:31 PM
2

Don't know. But it's not about being happy, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 06:29 PM
2

Life isn't about being happy. Too many Disney movies, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 05:21 PM
9

Agreed. They should try having a meaningful relationship with their toaster for a quick preview.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 05:20 PM
2

Correct. Females have what males want while females can take or leave males.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 05:15 PM
1

Ok. Rule of thumb: it's ONLY socially acceptable to approach women at places where it's appropriate to dance. That means parties, clubs, bars, wedding receptions, etc. Women expect to be approached at these places so go all out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 05:09 PM
6

If you mean women's empowerment, it doesn't matter. Understand that what we're told to do by society is for the sake of itself. Not the people, and definitely not their happiness. Society will eventually need more people in the STEM fields, so why not put a gendered spin on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:18 PM
-2

This is a debate sub, guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:59 PM
0

I mean, it's still used as a dog whistle even today so I'm not surprised so many people believe it. But the studies, the bias, it's all just part of a political plot to end entitlements.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:50 PM
1

Why not just cut off a foot and claim disability? Makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:47 PM
7

I don't recommend anyone get married until at least 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:46 PM
-1

No. I'm not dumbing myself down for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:37 PM
-2

I insult shit arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:31 PM
3

They weren't deceived. They just don't like being as cheap and plentiful as the sperm they create. Can't blame 'em. But can't help them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:30 PM
-1

I'm saying that you're only bringing up single motherhood because you bought into a political dog whistle. It's not actually a problem at all and you have yet to realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:29 PM
4

So? It doesn't matter how they choose, it's still their biological birthright. No sense arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:26 PM
0

Fine, go be homeless someplace away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:24 PM
4

And it's women's biology to be the bottleneck. To choose who gets to pass down their genes and who doesn't. Don't blame women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:23 PM
1

Single motherhood started out as a political dog whistle to argue against welfare. Idiots that drank that koolaid still think it's a problem, but it never was.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:21 PM
1

Millionaires can have pets too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:15 PM
1

Nope, it's all biology. Most males in every species do the courting. Males have a higher sex drive. Males would wait and wait if they had to wait for females to court them. Hell, females might not care to court at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:13 PM
9

I dunno. Whatever men think makes them happy about being in a relationship. Not having to pay/beg for sex? Doubles costumes during Halloween? A duet partner for karaoke?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:04 PM
4

Men are at pet status. He's around because she likes him enough to put up with his shit. That's it. Ideally, women would be able to choose from a detailed catalog of men which ones she wants to adopt. A lot like tinder. Actually, exactly like tinder. Then a trial run to see if they're compatible, then they get together. Wow, it's almost how things work now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:02 PM
2

We're talking macro, not micro, genius. Your anecdotes aren't welcome in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:57 PM
-1

In the SMP, she's a millionaire and you're homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:46 PM
5

Society's changed. Everyone provides for themselves now. There's no way you haven't noticed, unless you've been under a rock for the past 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:45 PM
10

Guys with big dicks aren't necessarily good at sex, making it not that important at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:33 PM
3

It sounds like you're equating class with femininity. And no, being feminine has done nothing for me. No advantages whatsoever. Just more work on my part for negligible results.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:30 PM
18

I hate incels. I'll do what I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:27 PM
0

Sounds like a shit deal for men. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:26 PM
4

Do you not get that women can make their own money? There are millions of women out making more money than you right now. Women don't depend on men for jack shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:25 PM
1

Because women have value and men don't. Value means being able to ask for things. No value means you're a net negative and can't ask for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:21 PM
2

Only women in a relationship with you can cheat on you. She didn't lie, she never said she wanted to be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:14 PM
3

Settle down? Why? She can make her own money. There's nothing a man can do for her that she can't do herself. And she should. Maybe men will drop this insane notion that they're owed something for nothing. Ridiculous idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:10 PM
7

Do you really think she'd be better because she's 18 and a virgin? Your soft manipulation tactic won't work. It never works. Abusive men go to prison and the women and children gladly forget he ever existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:05 PM
18

Nobody lied. They got sat in front of the TV as kids and believed what they saw. But the people making those movies were never trying to teach anyone anything. It was about making money on movies and merch. Sorry you can't tell the difference between real life and movies, but don't blame women. Blame capitalism. Blame your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:59 PM
2

Men ask too much for nothing in return. Why should any woman go out of her way for a man with no value? Because as long as she doesn't need him for anything, he's useless. Useless people don't get to make demands. Useless people are grateful they get anything they have and shut the fuck up if they don't want to get tossed out. THAT'S why divorce is so prevalent today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:54 PM
10

None. She can still leave you either way. In fact, a younger woman will definitely leave first. She'll want to experience a bit of her youth before hitting 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:49 PM
1

If the setting is one where it's inappropriate to dance, nothing I say to any man is remotely sexual. Period. That means courtship is restricted to bars, clubs, parties, wedding receptions, festivals, church socials, etc. Good rule of thumb, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 08:15 AM
3

Maybe it's neither. Maybe she's got her own life and there's no room for you in it. Women have their own shit going on too. I've turned down very good looking men for that reason alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 08:06 AM
4

Not going to work. The job market is going to have to skew towards workers before anyone has enough money to start a family. No amount of authoritative legislation will make oil prices drop. No amount of forced monogamy will undo 2008. It's too big for anyone to just "fix" overnight. Chances are, many of us aren't going to live to see it end.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 07:41 AM
3

No dude, rejection has nothing to do with hate. This sounds like splitting. That's what kids do because they're too young to understand gray areas. As we get older we learn that there's no such thing as pure good and pure evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:38 PM
2

Which is a gross oversimplification. Chances are she has her own life and has no room for him in it. But it doesn't mean she hates him. Love is a feeling, not an action. You can love someone and ignore them at the same time. You can love someone and punch them in the face at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:28 PM
3

You BLOW!!!! Just blow all over it! So much blowing! You get outta here with all your blowing!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:10 PM
5

You SUCK!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:08 PM
1

I see his sexuality as just one of his needs. It doesn't need to get filled until he hits puberty, but it is a need he expects to be filled by whichever woman he replaces his mother with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:08 PM
1

Im a woman. What I mean that a woman can usually find some man that'll fuck her. Even if she's old or fat they're somebody's fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:45 PM
1

Not sure, honestly. It seems more like a bad dream than a memory. Believe me, if I seem morose it has nothing to do with my ex husband. I have far better reasons to be depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 02:36 AM
2

This sentence makes no sense. Is English your first language? Men know it's not ok to harass people. They justify doing it to women by saying that because of X, she must've wanted it. It's all just excuses. Because you receive positive attention from others when you look good. A person with low self esteem wouldn't believe anyone telling them they're beautiful. You have to love yourself first. Sure, some women are narcissist. There's a difference between narcissism and malignant narcissism. Heal…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 02:31 AM
1

I feel like we're saying the same thing, except I'm not entertaining a happy storybook ending. That doesn't necessarily make life not worth living. At the same time, we don't need to chase unicorns to keep going, either. We all need to shake off these archaic narratives and start living like there aren't any.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 02:01 AM
1

I hope you will be able to recover a more positive attitude. Don't give me that bullshit. Relationships/marriage are being advertised as the thing that's going to complete you, and it's wrong. It's wrong to do that to people. It's wrong to make people feel like failures for not being happy with an institution that was never meant to make them happy. The reality is that the feeling of being incomplete, for a lot of people, is their normal. But no, we'd never sell anything if we didn't give the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:28 AM
3

I mean that a 1/10 woman will always have a higher SMV than a 1/10 man. Same for 2/10 and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 01:07 AM
3

Women at every level always have a higher SMV than their male counterpart.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 11:16 PM
1

Well ms expert how is setting boundaries you'll accept in your partner "possessive"? Its not wise to try and put boundaries on someone that can always say no and leave you for someone better. No leverage means you take what you can get. Something else must have happened that you haven't analyzed. I realized that marriage was never meant to make people happy. At best, it was to maintain the population. At worst, it was a covert means of control. A LTR isn't a checkmark on the list of things you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 11:15 PM
2

Really? And what makes you the arbiter of truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 11:04 PM
1

Basically, possessiveness is a man trying to coerce or inhibit a woman in any way possible. Whether that be who she spends time with, how she dresses, etc. Well yes, as far as relationships are concerned I would consider myself informed, considering I've been in more than one, some lasting for years at a time. Compared to someone that has little to no experience, I'm pretty much an expert.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:52 PM
1

Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:46 PM
7

Really, there's no difference in male attention a woman receives based on what's she's wearing? Men tend to believe that a woman that dresses up is doing it specifically to get their attention. Or they use that as a way to blame women for him bothering complete strangers that were just minding their own business. Is that why they spend so much on clothes, make up, and take so long to get ready? Looking good makes one feel good. Even if no one else sees it she can still admire herself in the mirr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:21 PM
2

Actually, my mistake. Although if I did get shadow banned now I'd completely understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 09:06 PM
1

THANKS FOR THE SHADOW BAN, ASSHOLE.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 08:54 PM
19

Tight fitting clothes make for more fluid movement. You don't have to worry about your a baggy shirt going over your head while bending over or having to pull up your pants. Wrestlers wear tight clothing for the same reason. Men started wearing baggy basketball shorts because it became the thing to do. They saw the popular kids doing it and figured that if they did it too, they'd be popular. Are women's exercise clothes purposefully sexualizing? Do women go to the gym with the hope of receiving …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 08:49 PM
-1

Everyone does. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 05:50 PM
1

TLDR: Is the men you'd want for a one night stand the same guy you'd want to be in a committed relationship with? Honestly, being divorced, I just want a man that's going to be happy minding his own business and caring for himself. In other words, all men are ONS at this point. I'm not confident AT ALL that any man wouldn't try to control me in a way that benefits himself. Do you feel that men with dating problems typically don't know the difference between short term and long term relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 05:45 PM
1

Are you five??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:11 AM
1

Literal children are never high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 02:18 AM
1

It's a red flag. Abusers always isolate. Not a good idea to do anything remotely resembling their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 02:17 AM
1

Pull it. It's a shitshow, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:51 AM
2

And I'm arguing that those things aren't seen as high status, not by women, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:50 AM
1

Abusers always isolate their victims from friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:49 AM
1

Abusers always isolate their victims from friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:49 AM
2

Even the hardest-charging businesswoman desires intimacy and you cannot give intimacy to yourself. What? Of course you can. Ever heard the overstated "no one can love you until you love yourself first"? That's what being emotionally secure is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:48 AM
1

Maybe in movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:45 AM
1

So status just means having a good attitude or being confident? No. Men are trying to use leverage they don't have to get the attention of a woman who doesn't need him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:44 AM
1

I'll argue that micro isn't worth considering at all. There's only macro. You're either at the bottom, one of the few at the top, or one of many just like you in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:42 AM
1

No, it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:38 AM
1

The vast majority of men are so ordinary that that's what their status boils down to. Friends and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:38 AM
0

They're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:36 AM
1

No, it doesn't. It means he's not trying to isolate her, which is a fantastic sign that he's not abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:36 AM
2

Usefulness is also a factor. And the reality is that women don't need a man for anything anymore. She holds all the value in that she's capable of achieving whatever a man can along with still being what a man wants. Compared to women, men status is practically nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:30 AM
2

I used to work events like that. They're either escorts or models there specifically for the men to ogle. Ever see a pretty lady doing a liquor store tasting? Same type of modeling agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:25 AM
0

The benefits of being in a relationship with any man are vastly overestimated by these same men. In reality, if their value can be attained other ways they have none.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:01 AM
1

No. She's going to eventually find out he's not worth her time and split.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:40 AM
1

Well no, no data means the jury is out. If genetics had anything to do with it don't you think it would've said that?? Don't you have anything better to do than a pissing contest with an internet stranger???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 08:53 PM
1

I looked it up on the same internet as you. "Malignant narcissism", overt and covert. There, I made it easy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 05:51 PM
1

Narcissism is not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 05:43 PM
1

women's thirst is often triggered by men who excel in 1 to 3 areas. Physical attractiveness, income and status. Attraction can be discounted if they're incompatible, like if they're political opinions are different. Women can make their own money. Men without jobs act like large children. They're a burden on any family. Status? According to who? His friends? His parents? Why should she care what they think?? Honestly, if you're not either born into a wealthy family or are some kind of celebrity,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 05:40 PM
-2

Using someone for their youth or to get money shouldn't be celebrated. She should be in therapy sorting out her daddy issues and he needs to stop using her to elevate his own status. Do you really think he'd have anything to do with her if she wasn't young? That's all he cares about, not her, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 12:02 PM
-2

He's only using her to feel young and she's only with him because of daddy issues or money. That's not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 11:57 AM
5

If men had their ideal dynamic they'd have a harem of women who look exactly the same and can never be unavailable to him for any reason. If women had their ideal dynamic men wouldn't be able to approach them. Instead, there'd be a catalog of available men they could sift through at their leisure. In other words it's been great for women. It's exactly what we would want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 08:31 AM
1

Age. I genuinely believe that people should only be pursuing partners the same or around their own age. Older men with younger women absolutely disgusts me. He's only using her to feel young and she's only with him because of daddy issues or money. I shut older men down in the worst way, especially if they drop that "age ain't nothing but a number" bullshit. "Oh really? So why not stick to women your own age? Every reason they give is exactly the same reasons a young woman wouldn't want anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 08:23 AM
1

It has everything to do with the societal narrative. We're supposed to graduate high school, get a job, buy a house, get married, have 2.5 kids, retire at 62 and die. Men that can't expect to fulfill their supposed "purpose" are left wondering what to do next. Their fear of being seen as a hopeless bachelor is enough to view women's autonomy as a very real threat to their status for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 08:10 AM
3

Their reasoning is that if a woman doesn't immediately accept their advances and be monogamous to him immediately, she must still want to sleep with a bunch of random men. But really, all they want is to always have their advances accepted. Calling women sluts/prudes is solely for the sake of manipulation.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/19 12:56 AM
1

Wtf??? What do you mean if you are looking for casual sex it doesn't matter if he's attractive?? Right, because I don't plan on ever seeing him again after that night. It's the same reason I don't hang my pictures up in a motel room. Do you mean it doesn't matter that he doesn't have an attractive personality if he's physically hot, right? Wut? No, if I just want to sleep with the guy for one night nothing matters except that he doesn't mind being used. Come on, grll my brain is exploding(it mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 02:21 PM
3

pls elaborate on that, like what's the point of sleeping with a man if he's not hot I just want casual sex and that's it. Its usually the opposite, you know. Girls fuck super hot guys casually and then settle for a guy who ain't that much. BULLSHIT. All women have different priorities for why they want to be with a particular man. It's never either or. In fact, think of traits you would want in a woman. Make a list and prioritize most important to least important. Next, think of women you know a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 01:57 PM
4

Looks matter if I'm looking for a boyfriend because I plan on looking at him for longer than just one night. The ONS, as far as I'm concerned, is a walking talking penis and that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 04:13 AM
2

If I'm looking for a ONS it doesn't matter if he's attractive. Do you mean a spontaneous ONS? Like if a reasonably attractive guy just comes up and asks me if I'd like some free sex? Goodness, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 11:34 PM
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