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I've wondered about this. When my parents separated my dad had to pay my mom - and It seemed like it was so much that he couldn't afford to live. Like he would have to live in the cheapest dirtiest basement apartment until I turned 18 or something. Although I do think both parents bear responsibility for a child, I'm curious whether they ever consider whether there's enough left to live on. Because if there isn't. He's just gonna stop working. Ask me how I know.
/r/MensRights24/02/25 07:52 PM
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but that really hurt my feelings... So you do care... you could make a body shaming reply, call her fat and then act surprised when she's upset or something. But honestly these people already know they're in the wrong - they will double down when you engage them.
/r/MensRights09/08/24 02:47 PM
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I mean, their behaviour doesn't match. Outside of that, how can we ever know what people have going on in their heads. And what does it matter if it doesn't translate into action?
/r/MensRights13/06/24 02:21 PM
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well one of the key things to tackle first was simply to ask "what is a Feminist" - and establish an actual definition/idea of its boundaries. For me, a Feminist is someone who believes in equality (of opportunity) between the sexes. But anyone can call themselves a feminist, including those with the most extreme views, there is no governing body or authority right? So I actually consider myself a feminist - having said that many other self-proclaimed feminists would readily denounce me. However…
/r/MensRights12/06/24 05:09 PM
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Jelly?
/r/MensRights12/06/24 01:31 PM
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Easy, despite being all over the internet and Reddit. The way its reflected here, isn't the way its reflected in my experience of real life. Running into "radical feminists" in the wild is super rare. None of my friends girlfriends are unhinged. I don't meet unhinged women. My company leadership isn't becoming a matriarchy. Honestly I just keep on keeping on. I've followed the movement to learn more about myself, and I have grown. I did have some questionable behaviors. But the movement I feel t…
/r/MensRights11/06/24 06:38 PM
2

did they ban you the moment you joined? like is it a script/automated? or did you have to post something and a mod dug into your info?
/r/MensRights28/05/24 03:16 PM
7

The Patriarchy isn't a problem, its a response.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 06:01 PM
6

you don't walk 7 miles to work, uphill both ways in 5 feet of snow?
/r/MensRights03/05/24 12:01 AM
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There's a saying "Act according to the world as it is, not as you'd like it to be". The rapist is more in the wrong here. But you can't ignore the fact that the world can be a dangerous place and if you walk around ignorant to that then you're exactly that, ignorant. And everyone has a responsibility to themselves to not be ignorant.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 09:00 PM
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To be fair, the idea that men have it harder doesn't mean it isn't worth saying women have it hard. both should be addressed. It would be like saying "yeah, what China is doing to the Uyghurs is bad, but have you seen nazi Germany?" Now you did say why is it ignored that men have it hard. which is technically different. And I would guess the reason is that, despite perhaps having it harder, we're also the ones in power. We're the ones with the most power to change it. Its one thing to oppress yo…
/r/MensRights29/04/24 02:14 AM
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Drizzle Drizzle
/r/MensRights28/04/24 03:41 AM
5

Yeah, I mean, you don't need to be big and strong to shoot a gun.
/r/MensRights27/04/24 04:13 PM
1

Anytime you hear "All men" or "All women" you can pretty much dismiss whatever follows. Its Irrational to make such a blanket argument.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 03:22 PM
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Both sides are considered immoral.
/r/MensRights24/04/24 01:51 PM
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I think there's a very clear definition of it. And then there's how feminists use it. Toxic masculinity is, by definition, traditionally masculine behaviors done in toxic (antisocial) ways. So, for example, Leadership is considered a masculine trait. being a leader is masculine. Saying "I'm the leader because I'm the man" however, is not. Another example, strength. Being strong is considered a masculine trait. Using that strength to bully people into submission (especially weaker than you) to do…
/r/MensRights01/04/24 04:38 PM
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Good, let them die off and only the one with their head on their shoulders properly will procreate. sounds like a plan.
/r/MensRights01/04/24 04:21 PM
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Yeah, I dunno. It smells suspicious to me too but everything I'm reading will either say "women got the right" or "married women got the right". Searching "could single women have bank accounts before 1964" type query's doesn't return much of value. I see people saying that if not a husband, you would need the fathers signature. So, I can't confirm or deny your claim. But I would expect someone would have really put effort into making a point of distinguishing married vs unmarried but nobody see…
/r/MensRights27/03/24 08:56 PM
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More importantly why society has never paid(men in particular) attention to this? Because this is a fairly recent thing. it wasn't until 1964 that a woman could open a bank account without a husbands signature for instance. How are you gonna get rich when you can't even have a bank account? Typically speaking men have by and large always been richer than women throughout history.
/r/MensRights27/03/24 05:39 PM
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She just did more when she knew she was getting hers. Women statistically give more and receive less or none at all back. Sounds like a pretty damn conditional approach to me. so you're saying statistically they approach relationships in an unhealthy way? So yes, guys are not putting their all in What you said before this, does not imply this. Putting in effort, and knowing what you're doing are two different things - and its also documented that women require more emotional connection to orgasm…
/r/MensRights26/03/24 03:19 PM
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just because its not surprising, doesn't make it acceptable and I'm pretty sure thats a double-standard. Like nobody would forgive a guy for not giving 100% on the first go.
/r/MensRights26/03/24 02:49 PM
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Seems unlikely tbh. They will have expectations those men can't meet (explicitly due to having all the partners lol)
/r/MensRights05/03/24 02:49 PM
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Sex and Simps aren't a real connection though. and that does matter. that is what's needed to cure loneliness, not simps.
/r/MensRights05/03/24 02:48 PM
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couldn't finish watching it, too cringey. All I'm going to say, is that the population is pretty much 50/50. If men are dying alone, so are women. Lets not be delusional.
/r/MensRights04/03/24 04:17 PM
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Yeah i figured it was found by some reposting. but seriously who reads that? I'm genuinely surprised there's enough of a market to support someone writing such nonsense lol.
/r/MensRights23/02/24 04:40 PM
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Who tf reads "eviemagazine"?
/r/MensRights23/02/24 02:31 PM
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and anyone who says otherwise is deliberately arguing in bad faith. Any time I see this in the first line, the argument immediately loses credibility. like you know there are counterarguments and you attempt to shut them down before they have a chance to challenge you lol. The position that anyone who argues otherwise is "deliberately arguing in bad faith" is absolute, 100%, #1 bullshit.
/r/MensRights21/02/24 02:48 PM
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Why are "feminine" traits in men a thing? Why are masculine traits in women a thing? ​ Because "masculine" and "feminine" traits, are simply traits that are predominantly found among either men or women. Thats all. There is nothing wrong with feminine traits in a man, or masculine traits in a woman. In fact, we all have some overlap.
/r/MensRights21/02/24 02:41 PM
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when the hard times come, everyone will remember their place again.
/r/MensRights20/02/24 11:17 PM
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I've noticed that with the modern trend being fitness, that when women work out a lot, get thin and lean, they often times don't have much left to show off you know? so they get implants and suddenly their proportions are unreal.
/r/MensRights20/02/24 03:42 PM
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I think thats ok, because only a fraction of women who "identify" as feminists, are actually the radical problem you see online.
/r/MensRights15/02/24 09:25 PM
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I don't know anything about this - ie I've never seen people making fun of Tate's chin. But I'm not deep in that sphere. HOWEVER, presumably if you're going to stand up and preach being ultra-masculine, you should probably Be Ultra masculine. And strong chin/jawline is a masculine trait.
/r/MensRights15/02/24 02:14 AM
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I mean, I just got downvoted for saying an uncomfortable truth. I also barely participate in voting on posts. I comment but I almost never vote. So reddit votes really shouldn't be considered a reliable metric. The Feminist movement has alot of support. most people are either supporting it, or just standing on the sidelines simply understanding that anything not pro-feminism is bad. By comparison, I can technically say Discrimination is a good thing. Discrimination is how we separated the poison…
/r/MensRights15/02/24 01:28 AM
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Reddit is also full of angry, insecure men that hate women. This is just "the anonymous place" where people come to vent or rant about whatever. And for some people, that means insecurely hating the opposite sex.
/r/MensRights13/02/24 04:51 PM
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There was something related to this in ancient Rome. I remember reading/watching/hearing somewhere that it was acceptable for noble men to engage in gay sex, but only if they took the dominant position. To take the submissive position as a man was considered feminine.
/r/MensRights13/02/24 03:10 AM
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Uhh, that depends where you are in the world... My grandparents for example were of the "farm hand children" mindset. They fled Europe in WWII. My grandmother is still alive. sooo its not that far back, and in fact, it still happens today in other parts of the world. think like, super rural china or something. those kids are definitely critical to keeping the farm afloat. Shit, I even know a guy in his late 20's in Canada who grew up on a farm with 9 other kids who all worked on the farm. Boomer…
/r/MensRights05/02/24 04:51 PM
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And before you defend this group of men, remember that they are the ones that women cheat on their men with. They are the ones who pursue other mens women and make the woman see the man they're with as inferiors. They will destroy other men's marriages/families and make fun of those men afterwards. you say all this as if the women were "just along for the ride" and didn't make a choice to be complicit. If you find your woman cheating, are you going to be more pissed at the guy or the girl? ​ nex…
/r/MensRights05/02/24 03:51 PM
1

I know my friend who married a Georgian wife mentions that her and her friends from back home are definitely "traditional" and find the western setup undesireable - like they don't see things as "better" here from that perspective. And its still a pretty prevalent philosophy among Slavic countries. But Asia is something different, you got those people who just hole up in their rooms, and a lot more "effeminate" men. So I'm not sure whats going on over there.
/r/MensRights01/02/24 09:02 PM
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Interesting, I haven't heard much about that. I have however heard of the "Passport Bros" so kinda figured that would only exist if other places "stayed traditional".
/r/MensRights01/02/24 08:25 PM
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in some cases yes, in others no. For example, do you then think that human trafficking is voluntary?
/r/MensRights01/02/24 04:23 PM
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Yeah, I agree. We are losing it. A tragedy in itself, But Humanity isn't. I mean, I suppose you could always move to another part of the world and have that right?
/r/MensRights01/02/24 04:21 PM
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Back in the day, families had as many kids as they could cause they needed the child labor on the farm. "farm hands" as they were. An in a way, they were necessary for survival. Today, we have no expectation to leverage our children's labor. And we don't depend on their labor to survive. Given this luxury, we approach the idea of parenthood differently now. By comparison, in other underprivileged parts of the world you'll notice families have more kids. In extreme places this is literally like "…
/r/MensRights01/02/24 03:40 PM
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you bring up a great point of reflection! I'm a millennial, a bit older than you (34 now). so slightly different experience/perspective but I've dwelled on the same subject. Here are some of my thoughts. On why men appear generally less motivated. This comes down to game theory, generally speaking humans play "games" which require adequate challenge, and provide reasonable rewards. There is a goldilocks zone. Too easy and we lose interest, too hard and we lose interest. When I look at my career,…
/r/MensRights01/02/24 03:22 PM
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Accomplish something. simple as. Its 100% not going to be easy. IF you feel worthless, you won't feel worth being disciplined for. Most people can circumvent this with healthy social circles. usually family, sometimes only friends. These groups make them feel safe and valued and motivated to chase after their wants. But not everyone has this "social privilege". and unfortunately, if you don't the only option is to discipline yourself through it. There is no magic "psychological bullet" to make y…
/r/MensRights29/01/24 07:15 PM
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therapy most of the time doesn't work for men How do you know? are you a therapists? Any therapist in the chat care to chime in on their experience? ​ Therapy works for women because it's designed for them. It certainly wasn't, but men have been more resistant to go "explore their emotions". Traditionally a feminine behaviour.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 06:27 PM
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I can't speak for everyone. But I knew a couple and the husband said that once they got marrier, everything changed. The wife went from being sweet, compassionate, and endearing, to expectant, entitled, and demanding. It was a sort of old-fashioned way of thinking. Had to be sweet to get the man. but once you got the man, its time for the man to give you the life you always wanted and if you don't get what you want, the man is failure. I'm sure it goes the other way too. But my point is that peo…
/r/MensRights23/01/24 11:42 PM
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then its bigger than they need when they're divorced and don't have custody. Again, having space is nice. But supporting your kid takes priority over bedrooms you can't sleep in.
/r/MensRights14/01/24 05:34 PM
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Its a moot point when doing this calculation. Imagine being the paying parent on the stand and saying "I can't afford that! I have a mortgage on a 4br to pay!". thats gonna fall on deaf ears real quick. The expectation is that you prioritize your child over the extra and unnecessary bedrooms. ​ Basically, no one ever buys a larger house to accommodate a child. The child utilizes what they already own This is #1 bullshit I know so many people who have done exactly this. Hence the whole "starter h…
/r/MensRights12/01/24 03:58 PM
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I was with you up until you said $3,500 for a kid is a reasonable. I thought you were going somewhere else with that lol Its not reasonable for me. but I don't make 240k/year.. when we express it as a fraction (17%) it seems reasonable.. Most people with lower salaries probably contribute even more than that. General sheltering bills remain close to the same. Why would they? You need another room in your home, maybe even another bathroom and or play room.... Also, you didn't include an education…
/r/MensRights12/01/24 03:55 PM
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Usually people can't afford the bigger home to start. Hence "starter home".
/r/MensRights12/01/24 03:51 PM
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weird, I know plenty of people who did exactly that. why would you buy a house thats larger than you need beforehand?
/r/MensRights12/01/24 01:00 AM
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Doesn't that suggest overspend in the previous case then? because they do cost more. There's no way around the fact there are more mouths to feed, bodies to clothe, cleaning to do. Also, people will buy a bigger house in preparation for having kids. years ahead in some cases. Does the data capture this influence?
/r/MensRights12/01/24 12:54 AM
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I agree.
/r/MensRights12/01/24 12:50 AM
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which part is unreasonable?
/r/MensRights12/01/24 12:45 AM
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How much does the child cost to support every month? If we were to do some quick maths and make things proportionately equal; 150k to 90k = 5:3 ratio of income. 1,300 x (5/3) = $2,166.67.That would be her "proportionately equal" contribution. Add them together, and we get $3,466.67 per month. or $41,600.04 per year. Would you say it would have cost you guys about that much when you were together, considering the formidable combined salary? this is all the food, clothes, school fund, sports, trip…
/r/MensRights12/01/24 12:39 AM
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yeah, I get that it can seem awkward if it seems like it wasn't prompted. It probably was, but in a way you didn't recognize. Either way, irrelevant or not. Its still not a consent thing. Nobody in my office needs my consent to come to me and say "The sky is blue today".
/r/MensRights11/01/24 09:11 PM
9

I didn't consent to that What?? You don't have to give consent for someone to tell you they have a partner lol..
/r/MensRights11/01/24 09:02 PM
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They're everywhere on the internet, but honestly I can't say I know anyone that wild in real life.
/r/MensRights11/01/24 12:21 AM
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Its used broadly because a term for what they're really trying to express simply doesn't exist. But remember that Nice Guys and Weak Guys are often conflated. Often times they're talking about weak guys but calling them "nice guys" (there is a correlation).
/r/MensRights31/12/23 05:50 PM
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did you know that not all women are feminists? I actually thought this video was fine.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:26 AM
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so what question are you asking there? I'm asking about what you're implying. When you ask me "what do I mean when I ask are men and women equal" my reply is "whatever you mean when you say assuming men and women are equal" . in whatever way you meant it there, is the way that I'm asking. It seems however, that we both subscribe to the understanding that Men and Women are not equal physically. hence why you posted the experiment in the first place. so the next step/question is to ask what you th…
/r/MensRights13/12/23 07:54 PM
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in your experiment, you say: ​ assuming that men and women are equal, Do you believe this assumption? What would you do if you were on the train?
/r/MensRights13/12/23 06:36 PM
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So whats the payroll analogous too? like it implies you're "part of the company" but what is the company? Does "being on payroll" mean being a woman? Are women considering misandrists "one of their own" regardless? But also, you're kind of highlighting my main gripe with the Feminist movement - specifically that there is no "True Narrative". There is no authority on it. Feminism is whatever it needs to be for whichever woman. And you can't question it because she's a woman. but women have a bunc…
/r/MensRights13/12/23 06:20 PM
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I guess none of you have played a contact sport or an extreme sport As a wrestler, I can guarantee you this wouldn't work on me so consider this a warning against overconfidence. I could get hurt, but doing nothing is way worse. I agree, and I would intervene 10/10. But this is my own moral perspective, and it is based on the assumption that men and women are not equal physically. Similarly, I would intervene if I ever saw a child getting beat up.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 06:00 PM
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Do you believe men and women are equal?
/r/MensRights13/12/23 05:57 PM
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Regardless of the law, I absolutely think it should - and I would if I were there. If anything, for the selfish reason that I ain't allowing that shit to fly infront of me, in my own home. I don't know if you can legally be held accountable though. My argument is a moral one, not a legal one - the legal one can get complicated.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 05:56 PM
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Another relevant quote from the article: Part of the problem is that I put men on pedestals. They’re not people: they’re these magical, perfect things. If they make jokes I don’t find funny, it’s because I wasn’t smart enough to get them. If the conversation is a bit flat, it’s because I wasn’t being exciting enough. They’re not allowed to be weak or have problems; they must be infallible, or I lose interest. My friend is the opposite; she always sees men as flawed, as weapons programmed to crus…
/r/MensRights12/12/23 04:00 PM
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No, you're just mistakenly building up a framework based of my comments and I didn't really care enough to correct you. You think I'm somehow massively occupied with pursuing sex but you couldn't be farther from the truth. Vast majority of my focus is on my own improvement. None of that negates the arguments. Men can have desire for sex without frothing at the mouth like a rabid addicts. More to the point, its unusual to not have that drive at all.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 07:20 PM
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wow, so sensitive! you really think thats bad? you must be new to reddit or something. ​ most men are looking to get their dicks wet. don't be naive. there can still be more to life than that, they can and do exist together.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 07:16 PM
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I'm genuinely surprised that you've written off sex though. You really never have desire for it anymore?
/r/MensRights10/12/23 06:10 PM
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It was never a problem to be horny. Never a problem to experience sexual desire. The problems happen when you Act on them. It isn't what you feel, its how you react to that feeling. Consider that you likely have the capacity to physically overwhelm the girls you want to call hot - and think about how that makes them feel. Imagine if you were in prison and the baddest motherfucker in there told you he thinks your ass looks mighty fine. How would you feel? You can Experience, you cannot Express, y…
/r/MensRights10/12/23 05:53 PM
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I'm genuinely surprised if it is the top post of the day. Perhaps the people like a story where the tables are turned. But the vast majority of the posts in this sub are related to men complaining that they "aren't the top 10% women go for and its hypocritical bullshit". You are that top 10%. The "Chad" stealing away all the women with his natural born gifts. I guess its ok when that top 10% act in their interests / are on their side though. I expected you to say "i'm staying single but I still …
/r/MensRights10/12/23 05:46 PM
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Its a lot easier to be "single and not looking" when women are constantly throwing themselves at you. Your perspective will come across as tone-deaf to alot of people here considering that privileged position. Are you abstaining from women completely, or are you just not looking for a relationship?
/r/MensRights10/12/23 04:37 PM
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This is all wayyyy to abstract to make any presumptions. ​ The feminist city wouldn't have adequate shelters for homeless and abused men. But the MRA city would have enough shelters for everyone. Why would this necessarily be the case? Consider healthcare. Who do you think gets better healthcare- the man in the feminist city, or the woman in the MRA city? Hard to say, more doctors are men, but more hospital staff are women. And women a generally more "caring and compassionate". Consider justice-…
/r/MensRights08/12/23 06:16 PM
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wow you've really chosen to frame that conveniently. "Shit tests" vs "two questions" lol. I could just call the orange peel test "one question" all the same lol. Yes, I'm comparing them. they aren't as different as you think. You seem to think that because one has more rationale in it, that is somehow a more acceptable test? it isn't. its not just questions, its a trap. And trying to read into whether her past dating behaviour matches her previous answer - is almost as opaque and worthless as th…
/r/MensRights06/12/23 08:01 PM
1

I think asking about past relationships is a fair question. I think setting up a "trap" as they've done, almost assuming/expecting they're a dishonest whore or something is not.
/r/MensRights06/12/23 03:52 PM
1

Eh, any guy woman trying to find a diamond in the rough these days needs to figure out ways to quickly screen out and sift through all the chaff. A lot of women men screened themselves out just from me talking to them and quickly realizing it. See how easily that flips? I didn't use stupid silly little tests out of magazines, but did do things like only free or cheap dates for the first two months to make sure she actually liked me and I wasn't just a wallet to her. I'd check to see how flexible…
/r/MensRights06/12/23 03:14 PM
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Well, yeah, I think people would obviously benefit from reflection. But the point is he's developing tests to use on dates. Its the same shit, just done differently. like, I don't think any man would appreciate being interrogated about his past on a date either. I agree that asking questions is a more ... rational approach than trying to infer something from peeling an orange. But just because you're better or worse at doing a thing thats bad - doesn't make it more or less bad. like if you're be…
/r/MensRights06/12/23 03:06 PM
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To be fair, it goes both ways. I recently saw one of those fresh n fit podcasts, and the main guy was recommending men to ask women what their type is, and then to ask them if their past dating history reflects that. "testing their integrity" or their "hypocrisy" or something. The point here is that this happens on both sides, and anyone who engages in this type of bullshit activity is in the wrong no matter if you're a man or a woman.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 06:38 PM
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is it truly his fault that he can't tell whether the woman he's gonna bring on is stupid or not? Yes, I absolutely think it is. Because I think he definitely can tell, and in fact, tries to tell. he (or his producer/crew) looks specifically for those types. And I don't think they bring them immediately on the show, I think they have some form of pre-screening process. Additionally, if every woman that he brings on lacks critical thinking skills; you can extrapolate that and make a general specul…
/r/MensRights04/12/23 04:02 PM
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he has brought girls with all different types of backgrounds e.g: girls with masters, 6 figure earners, housewives etc.... so to call him disingenuous although he diversifies his panel as much as he can is disingenuous in itself. This in itself is disingenuous. the diversity needed isn't in their career, or their net worth. You can definitely have a masters degree and still be an idiot. When was the last time you saw someone on that podcast that didn't talk with a ghetto accent while rocking big…
/r/MensRights03/12/23 06:46 PM
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Thats what happens when you have to process an emotion/experience so wildly foreign to you.
/r/MensRights03/12/23 05:39 PM
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To be fair, he's getting the worst of the worst on his show and then claiming that represents "all women" kind of thing which is disingenuous. He does make some good points, but against women woefully equipped to challenge him. EVEN if those women were right, they'd lose the argument.
/r/MensRights03/12/23 05:39 PM
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Yeah no shit. Given the opportunity to work, vs not work, all else being equal who in their right mind would refuse? However, I will say the idea of being "dependent" on anyone does not sit well with me. thems my own issues.
/r/MensRights02/12/23 07:51 PM
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Have you ever even had the opportunity to try the other type of nerve wracking? The type where peoples lives are in your hands. its a whole different level of responsibility. You put "fast paced environments" entirely in terms of your own perspective and then somehow expected everyone else to just jive along?
/r/MensRights02/12/23 07:50 PM
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Honestly, I don't even care that it doesn't exist for men. Because I'm a man and I don't feel like I need or want it. I don't want to "feel good about being obese". I don't need a fat acceptance movement, I need the gym. and I'm not going to beat around the bush or brush off my own responsibility to myself. The thing that pisses me off, is the hypocrisy / double standards. How can they say "body positive" and then, in the same breath, judge height/weight/hair/dick size? Not only is it hypocritic…
/r/MensRights28/11/23 05:34 PM
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Because thats the expectations. Our only options are to meet expectations, or fall short. anything praiseworthy was just "expected of you".
/r/MensRights28/11/23 05:19 PM
0

I agree with the repairman (if you actually do this). But not the bodyguard, and I think the driver is a stretch. I disagree with the bodyguard because honestly there is a fucking chasm between the capabilities of an actual bodyguard, and a typical guy. Most guys, have no training and wouldn't be eligible for hire by any agency. I understand that most SAHM aren't professional cooks for example, but they cook well enough to feed and provide for the family. I don't think the same could be said for…
/r/MensRights28/11/23 04:56 PM
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Imagine if a male athlete did say he wanted to "inspire all the boys". Cancelled immediately. But if he said he wants to inspire little girls everyone would praise him. This while situation isn't worth my time lol.
/r/MensRights16/11/23 05:16 PM
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No problem, you can just Identify as one.
/r/MensRights14/11/23 07:59 PM
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Nobody ever says a thing about men’s bodies,” says Billie Eilish. “If you’re muscular, cool. If you’re not, cool. If you’re rail thin, cool. If you have a dad bod, cool. If you’re pudgy, love it! It really blows my mind, that the same group of people who preach about the benefits of Compassion and Understanding, completely fail to see that hypocrisy here. How can you fail to see it, if you exercise any compassion or work towards understanding of men? Do they not realize that the "ideal male" phy…
/r/MensRights14/11/23 07:28 PM
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Interesting, doesn't seem like I've drank any and it doesn't seem like we particularly disagree much either. Feminists pointing to the current dictionary definition of feminism and talking about how they're about equality is how they get naive young people to buy into their agenda and perspective that women are some kind of permanent victim class. I mean, regardless, do you agree with the textbook definition of Feminism? Your comment does work if women were in fact disadvantaged compared to men.…
/r/MensRights09/11/23 10:10 PM
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However, every day I come home after hard day work and am completely ignored my wife and youngest daughter. Why do you think this is? How did you get to a place where nobody is interested in talking to you? was it always this way? My homelife is reduced now to getting home from work, drinking (about half bottle wine, NOT getting drunk) and sitting on bed reading or on laptop watching TV or Youtube. I feel the teenage me would be horrified at what my life has become. Thats because teenage you pro…
/r/MensRights09/11/23 09:50 PM
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I stick to the dictionary definition. I don't let them switch up the definition for whatever is convenient at the time. A better word for treating genders as equal as possible is egalitarianism. I don't think treating genders as equal is feminism, but rather, feminism is the perspective to motivate a push towards egalitarianism. Egalitarianism is the place, feminism is how we get to the place.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 09:30 PM
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Who the fuck is to say it has negative consequences Doctors/Scientists? Porn addiction is a thing and it can lead to both medical and psychological issues. this.... isn't new or a secret. ED, distorted perceptions about sexuality, increased aggression, isolation, difficulty with emotional intimacy, reduced sexual satisfaction, to name some. ​ How about we fight the dildo and rom com addiction. I can see your point, "dildo addiction" hurts women in a similar way porn addiction hurts men. Not that…
/r/MensRights06/11/23 09:27 PM
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I agree with it in its definition. I agree that men and women should have equal rights and equal opportunity. or, as far as naturally possible, I believe in equality of the sexes. But my main issue is that Feminism doesn't have a "direction" or a "directive". There is no "authority" on feminism, there is no leader of feminism. So, women just use feminism as an argument whenever its convenient for them and as a result, you can find two self-identifying feminists with different views. "what femini…
/r/MensRights06/11/23 04:30 PM
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Porn and Video Games are, in particularly, pretty charged topics with respect to women and in my opinion its pretty nuanced. Lets start with Porn. Obviously women don't like porn because its a direct challenge to them. Its competition. If you resort to porn, it means you're no longer chasing women. No longer validating and giving attention to be played with. It sets expectations unrealistically. And it objectified women. However, the truth is, the vast majority of porn is made for men. and porn …
/r/MensRights06/11/23 04:05 PM
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this is exactly whats going to happen. Its already been shown to be happening.
/r/MensRights03/11/23 08:43 PM
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Online dating was doomed to become this right off the bat. It wasn't because of Feminism. Feminism didn't help in that it radicalized some of the "supply pool" (if you will). but even without feminism, OLD would suck. The power dynamic in dating between men and women is Far from new.
/r/MensRights31/10/23 06:51 PM
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"Would you rather have the time with your family, or your career" is a pretty effective question to ask.
/r/MensRights10/10/23 03:22 PM
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we'll all go down together!
/r/MensRights27/09/23 09:42 PM
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Just wait until you find out what HR stands for.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 06:09 PM
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when I check, they dont. what is the math you're doing? its pretty awkward trying to translate that data, to the OP's post. I also can't show that single males in the higher age groups are low enough to absorb all the extra young females.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 01:33 PM
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but I don't think the numbers in his link balance out that way.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 12:23 PM
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what is the distribution of birthing boys vs girls? Save yourself the time, I looked it up. 105 boys for every 100 girls. 51.2% vs 48.8% - thats only a 2.4% disparity. And yet, the post claims a 2x disparity. This disparity simply isn't enough to produce the difference in the post's data. Do we see the same statistics in other parts of the world (where presumably, the birthing rates are equally biased)?
/r/MensRights27/09/23 02:21 AM
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I do suspect it has something to do with how they answer the survey for sure. And there probably are girls who think they're in a relationship with some guy like chad. But I don't believe that there are enough of them to produce a two-fold difference in the replies. The gap is just too large.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 01:49 AM
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So there are simply more single young men than single young women yes, but I don't think this difference explains the massive difference in those stats either, despite contributing.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 01:47 AM
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wait, how do they add up? what do you mean?
/r/MensRights27/09/23 01:27 AM
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Yeah, this isn't surprising. Presumably we're also seeing an increase in boys doing the same. Maybe not at the same rate but I would expect an increase. But we're talking about an increase of ~3.5% of the population over the course of 10 years. but for the data in the post suggests 60% of women are sharing a partner (some are likely dating outside the age pool too as someone else mentioned). So yes, there is a rise in girls identifying as bi, but nowhere near close enough to explain that posts d…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 10:29 PM
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Older men, ok - so that would mean that if we looked at the statistics of older men and women, we would see the reverse statistic right? Do we? ​ This is nothing new? In a few cases, no its not new. For 60% of the female population to be doing it would indeed be unprecedented.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 10:26 PM
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Let’s look at the hard numbers. More than 60 percent of young men (ages 18-30) are single, compared to only 30 percent of women the same age. How does this work? 40% of men aren't single and 70% of women aren't single. Who are the extra 30% of women dating? do we have like 2 women dating 1 guy? Also, where's the part about "lets blame men"? I didn't read anything in the article that says that... But lets suppose it did say that. Why would men be to blame. If men aren't to blame, is it Women's fa…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 09:44 PM
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Nope. I've considered it though. But I stay my course based on principle alone. I figure if I walk past and don't rape her, that will be a positive statistic to help combat this. But also, I refuse to accept that I'm to "behave as if they see me as a rapist". I'm not afraid of being called out either. Don't get me wrong, I don't go out of my way to make it uncomfortable or anything. But I'm not going to cross the street for it. The only time I do that, is when I see someone else with dogs walkin…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 04:17 PM
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so you want every man in media to be portrayed as perfect? Next thing you know, you'll be talking about how media portrays unreasonable male standards. Do the "male idiots" in the original list have no other redeeming qualities?? People have flaws, perfect characters are unrelatable. being really smart while also being "socially handicapped" is a stereotype to play on (and one that actually has some foundation).
/r/MensRights23/09/23 04:47 PM
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There's some truth to that. To be smart means to have the combination of intelligence and knowledge. If you're remarkably intelligence but know nothing, you won't functionally be very smart. If you have a bunch of knowledge but aren't intelligent enough to use it, you also won't functionally be very smart.
/r/MensRights22/09/23 12:49 PM
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I have several opinions here. 1.) Its easier to make fun of someone in a way they know isn't true. When it is true it cuts and is no longer "playful". There are definitely portrayals of idiot women too, but women have been historically seen as "less smart" so to go poke fun at that would be, well, low. 2.) There are also plenty of portrayals of Smart men too. House - Gregory House The Newsroom - Will McAvoy Game of Thrones - Tyrion Lannister Lord of the Rings - Gandalf Sherlock Holmes - Sherlock…
/r/MensRights21/09/23 08:01 PM
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We are powerless I disagree with this. Especially if you were to say we're Necessarily powerless. these are powerful women in positions of power What kind of power do they have? How did they get it? Its mostly a numbers game isn't it?
/r/MensRights21/09/23 07:33 PM
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She said "Every time a woman makes a claim "They should always be believed". Although I also disagree with this, as you do. I think this is born from a historical precedent of dismissing their claims. So, although I strongly disagree, I can maybe understand where they're coming from. ​ I think There is going to be a mass Exodus of men from this country if this continues.. I feel like this sells men short. Why a mass exodus of men from this country, and not a mass influx of women? Reading this so…
/r/MensRights21/09/23 06:08 PM
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By that logic, couldn't I then argue that conservatives are neo-nazis?
/r/MensRights21/09/23 02:53 PM
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Is that really how you go through life? The only time you learn or refine your opinions is if someone does all the legwork for you and brings all the "evidence and citations" to you? You must be remarkably ignorant if thats the case. you can stay there, not my problem. you're dismissed.
/r/MensRights21/09/23 02:40 PM
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Its not ok. Those people are hypocrites.
/r/MensRights20/09/23 04:49 PM
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Interesting. So Toxic Masculinity does have a definition. It reads like this: a set of attitudes and ways of behaving stereotypically associated with or expected of men, regarded as having a negative impact on men and on society as a whole. Which, honestly, I can agree with. You can have Masculine traits/behaviours, and then you can have toxic versions of that. Just like you can have cars, and then you can have fast cars. Toxic masculinity, then, would be the subset of masculine traits/behaviour…
/r/MensRights20/09/23 02:58 PM
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Do you acknowledge that masculine traits exist? Do you acknowledge toxic behaviour exists? Congratulations, you have all the tools required to understand toxic masculinity. But in case you need further guidance, see the examples in my original post. You want a citation, just google "Toxic Masculinity" and you can find a sea. or did you think your education, is my responsibility?
/r/MensRights20/09/23 02:28 PM
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Girl. Look. Despite claiming in multiple replies to you that i am, in fact, a man lol. Can't handle the truth I suppose? Thats fine, its not really all that important just an interesting reflection of your character. People here are actually interested in real discussion. Relating to each other. Some are, Some aren't. Real discussion, you certainly aren't. Relating to each other, you absolutely are. Welcome to the echo chamber! ​ I don’t care. It’s not a game of chess. No, its not chess. its not…
/r/MensRights20/09/23 01:48 PM
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I'm not "on your side" if on your side means against the feminists. But I'm also not on the feminist side. I'm not "just playing games". Have you ever noticed that feminists make such absurd claims sometimes, that it seems to hurt their mission more than help it? like most people will look at them and be like "wtf feminism is crazy yo" or something like that and they actually lose support instead of gain it? those feminists metaphorically shoot themselves in the foot. When I see that happen ther…
/r/MensRights20/09/23 01:36 PM
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LOLwut? No, Toxic masculinity is not "by its nature" a definition of masculinity. "by its nature", its just toxic masculinity.... Toxic masculinity is, however, a subset of masculinity. You know, kind of how you have cars, and then you have Fast Cars. Fast cars are a subset of cars. All fast cars, are cars. Not all cars, are fast cars. All things which are Toxically Masculine, are also Masculine. NOT all things which are masculine, are necessarily Toxically masculine. All A's are B's, but not al…
/r/MensRights20/09/23 03:59 AM
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There definitely are radicalized men here. Do you really think there isn't a single "incel" who has joined the sub called Mens Rights?? I have definitely seen hate towards women in posts here.
/r/MensRights20/09/23 03:46 AM
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Yes, I'm aware of that. I call out bullshit on both sides as I follow the feminist subs too. I'm banned from most main Feminist subreddits. and I've previously made comments about exactly that in this very subreddit. Whats your point though? Do you think because their radicals are less tolerant than your radicals, that the "correctness" that exists in your tolerance necessarily extends to being correct elsewhere? That being "more right" in one area, makes you "more right" overall? Because thats …
/r/MensRights20/09/23 02:57 AM
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Can't wait till you read my other reply lol. Not a woman! What "pretending"?? now what LOL?!?! :O
/r/MensRights20/09/23 01:34 AM
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Are you male? Doesn't matter, logic is independent of my sex. But Yes! How amusing, based off your other reply that you just sunk your teeth into the assumption that I was a woman. ​ I am starting to find your logic annoying. That'll happen when logic backs you into a corner. ​ The idea that toxic masculinity is simple because it “toxic” and “masculinity” mixed together is rather simplistic. Imagine that, a simplistic understanding of a simple idea. How Revolutionary! ​ The definition in the dic…
/r/MensRights20/09/23 01:30 AM
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I never defined men, I only highlighted some masculine traits - and they're not even "my opinion". Go google "masculine traits" and you'll find Strength and Leadership. ​ And here you are on a men’s right group telling us you know how to define us? Can you even define you? You tell me what you are then. go ahead, I'll wait, I bet you can't. ​ Think you should go back to college.
/r/MensRights20/09/23 01:07 AM
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no we don’t want this definition of masculinity. Which definition of masculinity would that be, exactly? ​ Because it implies that we are broken and we need mama to come fix us. Nothing I've said implies this at all. ​ The idea that they believe they are the ideal wonder that we men should aspire to be. This also isn't the case. Feminists don't want men to become women. In fact, feminists failing to describe what they'd like men to be, after telling them what they shouldn't be is actually a big …
/r/MensRights19/09/23 10:00 PM
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Depends which feminist discourse I suppose. You can find seas of people on reddit who match your description. But radicals aren't the movement. And the ones who would practice "true" feminism, (ie, something more representative of the definition of feminism - fighting for equality of the sexes) won't be that way and won't waste their time on reddit either. ultimately that does make it a clusterfuck. So just find your own justification for your actions, justifications you feel confident you can d…
/r/MensRights19/09/23 08:50 PM
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Well, its specifically stereotypically masculine traits/behaviours which are also bad for society. You need to fulfill both categories. Like nobody is out there claiming Hurricanes are toxic masculinity because they're not good for society. We're not "back" to any "squares". You can have things that are Masculine. You can have things that are Toxic(antisocial).When you have things which are both you have something that can then be described as toxic masculinity. The logic here is pretty straight…
/r/MensRights19/09/23 07:28 PM
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There definitely is.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 07:22 PM
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Well, there exists a definition for Toxic Masculinity... From a Dictionary not from a Feminist Reddit User. It reads like this: a set of attitudes and ways of behaving stereotypically associated with or expected of men, regarded as having a negative impact on men and on society as a whole. Generally speaking, this can be paraphrased to read "traditionally masculine behaviour which is also antisocial". ​ Because it is subjective This is a stretch. What people consider Antisocial behaviour can be …
/r/MensRights19/09/23 04:06 PM
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I disagree, I believe Toxic Masculinity is definitely a thing. But its worth saying that not all masculine things are toxic, and that the same masculine thing can manifest in toxic and non-toxic ways. So you can't just "broad-stroke" masculinity with toxicity. For example, one broadly accepted Masculine Trait is Strength. Strength is great when you use it to help and benefit the people around you. Its toxic when you use it to oppress the people around you. Another is Leadership. Being a leader i…
/r/MensRights19/09/23 02:45 PM
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It can't do that though. It doesn't "turn people into narcissists". What the OP is describing is textbook fallout from childhood trauma. It may bring out more narcissism in narcissistic people though.
/r/MensRights18/09/23 06:26 PM
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Nobody treated her badly before Perhaps it depends on what you consider to be "bad". Because this behaviour is definitely the result of something more than just "feminist influence". Dad didn’t say no to her for most of the things, basically enabled her at every step, she’d get mad if she doesn’t get what she demands (made dad buy her $2,000 worth of diamonds, demands luxurious bags). This degree of enabling or indulging, Is Bad Treatment of your child. This is not how you nurture healthy develo…
/r/MensRights17/09/23 02:58 PM
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I'm super curious what happened to her in her childhood to make her this way. This behaviour isn't like "genetic" or anything. Did your dad ever cheat on your mom? If your family just hangs her out to dry, her life is going to do downhill fast once she has to fend for herself. Like, normally I hear stories like this and i'm like "yeah fuck that person, they're an asshole!" or something. but honestly, this time I feel sad reading about your sister. Something fucked her up good over time, and nobo…
/r/MensRights17/09/23 01:34 PM
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Everywhere actually. So the idea of men "owning" their women is just.. Feminist propaganda?
/r/MensRights31/08/23 04:42 PM
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What I found interesting with one girl, was that it started out this way. But once she realized I was actually able to satisfy her its like a switch flipped. As if I was suddenly deemed worthy and unlocked the secret mode where she's suddenly engaged now. Like some kind of test. Very strange. Like the capacity to reciprocate was there, but it had to be coaxed out of her.
/r/MensRights31/08/23 03:22 PM
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You say that like women have only now figured out how to be emotionally abusive. Women have leveraged emotions since before jesus man. Its how they respond to not having physical leverage. And yet, despite this, where are all the possessed men?
/r/MensRights31/08/23 03:20 PM
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I think this is related to them generally being seen as property in the past. So, similarly to how its "cute" for a girl to hit a guy (because she's "not a real threat") sort of deal. its "cute" for a girl to talk possessively about a man (because, like physical superiority, it isn't gonna actually happen). No, its not fair. Its not equitable. Its hypocritical for any Feminist to behave this way.
/r/MensRights29/08/23 07:03 PM
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she mostly just lies there an lets you do all the work this fucking bothers me so much. I hate when women think simply granting access is all thats required. Like they've "done their part" and now its up to me to impress them. dafuq?
/r/MensRights28/08/23 10:32 PM
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Well, I guess I can't say until it happens. But I feel like I wouldn't care, because I don't spent enough time on social media to even notice. I also don't think many of my friends are involved in it too. Like I just don't see it manifesting into an effect on anyone I care about. But maybe i'm wrong, maybe they're all lurking in there.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 06:38 PM
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my fiancé received a lot of texts from friends and acquaintances that saw it thats certainly interesting. It would be sad to have family trust a stranger on the internet more than you but I could see it happening. I'm surprised there are that many people on there that it permeates your family and friends so successfully.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 10:43 PM
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Why was it embarrassing? You don't know anyone on that page why do you care what they think? The accusation against me wasn’t that bad The accusations against you could have been as bad as they want - it doesn't matter if its Kangaroo Court, right? Accused and shamed by complete strangers with 0 tangible consequence to you in real life. The only way I could see unfair damage coming from this, is if someone falsely made a claim and then the accused spouse believe FB instead and left them. are the…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 09:53 PM
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If you go for libel, don't you have to make a case for damages or something? ​ If your relationship with your fiance is fine, and she knows/believes its not true - who cares? what real consequences are there for you? you already have a fiance so the dating pool is irrelevant. Who cares?
/r/MensRights17/08/23 09:21 PM
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uhm. women preferred an even smaller portion of men say, 400 years ago. if its 10% now maybe it was top 5% then.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 05:49 PM
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well, generally two reasons: First: We have an inherent drive to survive as a species Second: Not all places are doing this. So maybe a majority of the worlds population "implodes" but there will still be people with old-world views pumping out kids. you think rural china is battling with this problem right now? The amish still pump out kids left and right.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 05:45 PM
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Can't put that genie back into the box. an EMP says otherwise. But I digress its probably not going anywhere.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 05:43 PM
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I mean, sure. We often have misalignments between what we think we want (or perhaps what we want to want?) and what we actually want. There are plenty of people with misguided views and expectations especially of marriage. Just giving a positive view to people that don't realize how lucky they are. I think its healthy to show positive views of different lifestyles. I wouldn't say they're necessarily lucky though. not particularly any more lucky than anyone else considering anyone can choose to b…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:12 PM
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Basically the same idea as DINK couples. But taken one step farther. People know this already, most people simply decide that despite these being advantages its still the worse deal for them. ie, they value companionship more than "Freedom". But not everyone feels that way. Just live your life man.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 02:25 PM
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Hmm so it seems the difference is an age thing. Because the reports I'm talking about (and what the video is talking about) is people who are single well into adulthood. I think 40 was the age or something? So the idea is to get past the point where marriage and kids typically happen and make the argument that this is "for life". 18-30 is interesting. Because as it said, even before pandemic a majority (barely at 51%) of men were single. Seems reasonable for people in their 20's generally. The j…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 02:05 PM
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well, we didn't need those groups to know that. plenty of studies have been done on it. This is nothing new. In fact, I was reading up on it once (can't remember the name for the phenomenon). But it was apparently way worse in the past. like if all girls are attracted to top 10% now, it was like top 4% 400 years ago.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:55 PM
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If we go extinct by 2200, it won't be because everybody is single.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 12:57 PM
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Thats my point. We didn't fail men or women, we failed a generation. and perhaps humanity if we don't fix it lol
/r/MensRights17/08/23 12:52 PM
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So the projections say this will be an issue in like 10 years. implying that, by whatever method they use to measure, they aren't measuring it now. so do you measure it differently or something? Trying to bridge the gap between your claim and the "reports/projections" we've seen warning about this.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 12:50 PM
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Just like I said in a previous comment. The whole point of those groups is to avoid sharing the same man. not encourage it. What happens when two women find out they're dating the same man on there. Do you think they celebrate?
/r/MensRights17/08/23 12:45 PM
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Thats nothing new. In fact, apparently it was worse in the past.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 12:43 PM
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Its not sustainable. One generation of this will cripple our society. it will find a way to balance itself out.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 04:37 AM
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60%+ of young men are single while young women are single at a rate of 34%. The video attempts to understand what may be causing this ratio imbalance. that seems ridiculous and doesn't add up. If anything, I would start questioning how that information was collected in the first place. I'm remarkably skeptical of that.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:49 AM
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That sounds contradictory to whats being plastered everywhere. Got a source or something? I'm skeptical.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:46 AM
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I don't think this is true at all. If this is happening, I don't think they know about it. they probably all think they're the special one.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:44 AM
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The whole point of that is because the don't know they're involved in polygamy and don't want to be. That page exists to fight this very thing lol. Not to encourage it.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:44 AM
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We just gotta wait however many years the projection was. But who knows, maybe they'll just be riding the carousel then too. But even in that case we'll still have major societal issues despite how empowered she feels.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:35 AM
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Do Feminists want men to approach them? I thought they didn't...
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:21 AM
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To be fair, we've also "failed women" too. If 40% or 60% or whatever the number was, of men will be single. what % of women do you think will be single?? Or do you think women will happily engage in polygamous relationships, multiple wives for one man? Cause that totally sounds like the Feminist Ideal. This is a much bigger problem than for just boys mental health. But I do agree strongly that there has been a void left for boys. Plenty of information about how Not to behave. But no information …
/r/MensRights16/08/23 08:42 PM
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That sounds like crying out of frustration, rather than looking in the mirror and "crying because of how beautiful you look" kind of thing (vanity). But hey, clearly how your partner looks has emotional value to her!
/r/MensRights16/08/23 04:12 PM
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Sounds like you're missing out man. probably in more ways than this. especially considering you just referred to yourself as a piece of shit. Regardless of how you feel. most people feel good when they dress well. And its not because of vanity alone. this is pretty standard social human behavior. but even if it was purely because of vanity, that wouldn't discredit it from being a feeling. its certainly not too emotional. people don't start crying when they look at themselves in the mirror lol.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 02:53 PM
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I don't think feeling good because you feel you're dressed well, is being too emotional. Have you really never felt confident wearing a tailored suit or something?
/r/MensRights16/08/23 02:30 PM
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Well, first of all. IM not the one saying it. I'm making the argument from the women's point of view for you. The woman who feels she does the emotional labour. However, statistically speaking women do score marginally higher on measures of emotional intelligence than men. But its hard to control for all factors, and is influenced by social environments or motivations. The gap between the sexes is still small. it doesn't mean we don't know how to interpret emotions In particular, it means we don…
/r/MensRights16/08/23 02:29 PM
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Do you think... I mean that women do that? like thats how humans function, specifically that women have emotional intelligence and men don't or something? Care you explain how humans function then? or you just gonna be like "nope, you're wrong"?
/r/MensRights15/08/23 06:42 PM
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Interesting to read all the comments. Its not as unanimous as I thought it would be. So I'll lay out my understanding of it. just like "regular" intelligence, there's also emotional intelligence right? Being able to empathize, have sympathy, connect emotionally, be mindful of yourself and of others, have patience, manage emotions, communicate feelings, etc. So doing emotional labour, is performing tasks related to emotional intelligence. This would mean that generally speaking she is more aware,…
/r/MensRights15/08/23 06:03 PM
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Although you're right, that it would be fair for them to arm themselves with the same information men have in order to tackle this fear/anxiety. Its also true that mechanics are calculated when they try cheeky shit. And although it would also work on men, they simply don't take their chances with men since women are the "easier prey". So even if women did get equally as informed we'd probably still see a bias for that reason.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 02:12 PM
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In her defense, and in my experience, this is actually a real problem. I'm an automotive engineer, with past experience as a mechanic - so alot of my friends come to me for advice on cars. And man, its fucking shameless the shit some mechanics try to pull and its almost always on women. So this one may not fail like all the other "female only" businesses. but lets see!
/r/MensRights07/08/23 02:05 PM
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As soon as you see anyone say ALL MEN or ALL WOMEN you know its time to tune out.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 07:58 PM
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I think the issue most people have, is that once something becomes male dominated - it becomes unapproachable (or more unapproachable) for women who may be so inclined. The same happens with female-dominated industries. ie, thinking a male nurse is necessarily effeminate. So the real question is why do these patterns evolve? How much of it is due to the way men and women are predisposed? how much of it is due to society thinking "this is a manly job"?
/r/MensRights03/08/23 03:40 PM
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yeah, you need to get off social media for a while. Social media is fucking great at producing echo chambers. You can easily find hordes of angry women. And since you see thousands of them you think its "so many" but they truly are a small minority. How often have you met such radical women in real life? I noticed it was affecting my view on the subject too. Echo chambers are powerful.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:32 PM
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lol, you're just running away man. the whole "you do it first or else I don't feel obligated" response to being asked why you think what you think might have worked in gradeschool. But now its just a giant waving flag that shows you have no idea what you're talking about. The poetic catch, is that I didn't actually make any claims. ​ But many were a SAHM without a career. I just wanna know what makes you say this man.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 07:56 PM
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1.) which claim? 2.) I asked you first. Deflecting already?
/r/MensRights31/07/23 06:35 PM
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Oh, believe me I'll also sink my teeth into something when a feminist makes a similar post that conveniently misinterprets data. focuses on the wrong part of the dataset / frames it incorrectly or misleadingly. I'm also not really arguing against the OP in the general sense. Just trying to hold him accountable to better arguments. See, when someone posts something with glaring holes in it like this - the "other side" can just take it and use it as evidence as to how stupid "this side" is. So its…
/r/MensRights31/07/23 06:23 PM
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I mean, one can argue that they sacrificed the opportunity for a career in that case. Or it could be argued that the husband had every opportunity to notice that she was clearly setting up to be a sahm and wouldn't have anything to "fall back on". that the expectation here was pretty clear. Also, Many? What statistics are you using to justify that claim? I'm suspicious as to how prevalent women "relegating" themselves to sahm duty are these days.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 06:06 PM
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I like this comment. I would like my spouse to stay at home with my kid. I would prefer this to daycare 10/10. Its better for the kid, its better for the mother, its better for the family. However, I would also like to be able to do that. The only reason I don't expect to is because someone has to work and its probably going to make the most sense to be me. If I was rich enough, I would also stay at home with these kids!
/r/MensRights31/07/23 06:04 PM
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It can be....but it can also be unilateral So which one do you think is more likely? ​ She ultimately chooses I don't think this is true. its not that in the end she ultimately chooses to be a sahm regardless of the man and he just "has to deal with it". The decision is typically made together, its not that the man just provides his opinion and is ultimately just at her mercy. If there is a woman saying "well I'm going to stop working so you're gonna have to deal with that" they are by far the e…
/r/MensRights31/07/23 05:59 PM
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I mean, nobody is making them do it - its usually a mutual decision thats in the best interests of the family unit at that time right? And I don't think we get to say "if she's not the breadwinner, what's hers is hers" as if that somehow negates the fact that she did, actually, leave a career behind even if it wasn't as lucrative as his. One way or another, someone is probably going to sacrifice their career right? If you weren't the breadwinner and became a sahd, you would also likely consider …
/r/MensRights31/07/23 03:48 PM
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Depending on whom you're talking with, it can be that polarized. Not all people can be reasoned with. Many people don't want to be reasoned with. And this goes both ways. Its to the point now where the one thing I can be sure is right, is that anyone with any extreme position (left or right) is wrong. The truth lies inbetween. You gotta pick your battles. Ask yourself whether or why that person is worth the effort.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 03:39 PM
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measuring equality is near impossible as we tend to compare apples to oranges This one is double-sided. On one hand, its actually easy to measure specific equalities in "final outcome" ways. if there are 8x more male billionaires than female - it on its own is a clear and factual measure of gender inequality among billionaires. But on the other hand, when you start diving into the reasons why this might be the case it becomes difficult to quantify the individual effects. And then again its becom…
/r/MensRights27/07/23 05:56 PM
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it was hypothetical. Change the country to the USA. Change the crime to something else. Doesn't matter. the point is about how the statistic is interpreted. But of course you would instead focus on the not important part/change the topic and not answer the question asked.
/r/MensRights27/07/23 04:25 AM
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Disparity between being homeless and being a billionaire is a different argument than disparity of men v women billionaires, or men v women homeless... Of course you're more likely to be homeless than to be a billionaire. this was never the argument. but if you're a billionaire, you're more likely to be a man, than if you're homeless. and thats the disparity of odds you should be focused on. You're flipping the script to try and make an argument that works for you. The argument is: If you're X, …
/r/MensRights27/07/23 04:01 AM
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....Relative to each other... Like most people do... Because it makes sense... Lets say, hypothetically, that there were only 10 rapes in england last year. but 9 out of 10 were women being raped - would you really just say "yeah but grains of rice, they're both basically 0 compared to the population and therefore no pattern can be seen"? Would you really ignore that it shows women get raped 9x more than men?
/r/MensRights27/07/23 03:44 AM
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Wait. 87 percent of billionaires are men, but 70% of homeless are men. Doesn't that mean the disparity is actually greater for billionaire than homeless (contrary to your claim that the homelessness issues is "far more significant")? ​ Furthermore, if you look at the homeless population quoted it represents 0.0786% of the population. so less than 1/1000th. This argument is also a "grain of rice" argument. ​ But more importantly if what we're going to consider a "sneaky move" is focusing on somet…
/r/MensRights25/07/23 04:28 AM
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but the feminists have a point when you look at this data... That 8x disparity is an argument for feminism. Like once you don't do any sneaky moves and look at whats left it leans in favour of the feminists. its really the only point that data makes other than "billionaires are rare".
/r/MensRights24/07/23 09:12 PM
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it is and it isn't. thats the thing with numbers. ​ But surely these facts should be presented within the context of your overall chances of becoming a billionaire? Not at all if you're trying to make an equality argument. In that case its always within the context of one sex or the other. ​ within this context, a woman’s chances of being a billionaire vs a man’s, is marginal. Thats only because they're both extremely marginal - and thats the whole sneaky move in this argument. the incremental d…
/r/MensRights24/07/23 07:33 PM
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I disagree with how you've chosen to represent female vs male billionaires. Considering this post is about "being able to choose what defines equality is a privilege" then so is choosing how to represent the data. You took male % - female % and reported that (rounded). but really you should so male%/female%. When do you the math this way (which is the correct way to compare them)- you get something like nearly 8.1x as likely (810%?). Because it is actually 8 times more likely for a man to be a b…
/r/MensRights24/07/23 05:09 PM
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I thought that was a pretty good article overall. Alot of interesting points were made. I didn't interpret it at all to say masculinity was being "designed as gynocentric" at all. In fact, one of the paragraphs talks exactly about how its difficult for some people to define what masculinity is, without simply spelling out femininity. And it paints this as something bad, not something good.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 02:49 AM
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pretend what doesn't happen? That men call in saying that? Or that such behaviour counts towards the suicide rate?
/r/MensRights13/06/23 08:31 PM
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I mean it either is or it isn't right? I want to know whether its actually fair or whether its as you say. If the rules are the same, its hard to complain about them.
/r/MensRights13/06/23 08:30 PM
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Do the same rules apply to men? Like if a man calls and says "Im going to kill myself unless we get back together" - do they count that too? Or are the qualifiers different between men and women?
/r/MensRights07/06/23 06:44 PM
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In a way, my father dug his own grave (figuratively and literally). Shortly after getting married and having me, he starting drinking heavily and his alcoholism became a big problem. He says my mother became a different person after marriage - and honestly I can kind of agree, my mother would have been terrible to be married to. He lost his stake in the family business and blew the buyout on alcohol. Struggled to keep a job after. And basically drank until his health couldn't take it anymore. Ev…
/r/MensRights23/05/23 08:42 PM
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It is a rather defeating proposition. This happened to my father, when my parents split he gave my mother the house since I was growing up there. He said take the whole house, clean its all yours. but leave me alone. Nevertheless, my mom got his paycheques garnished for child support. For all the hours he worked, he really had nothing to show for it at the end. Couldn't afford any more than a basement apartment and no car (and this was back in the 90's with a skilled trades job). There was no in…
/r/MensRights23/05/23 04:18 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't get the joke?
/r/MensRights11/05/23 12:57 AM
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I like the idea. I think its going to fail miserably. The people who are most vocal on places like reddit, are also the most set in their ways. I wouldn't even know how to go about moderating something like that without it turning into chaos.
/r/MensRights09/05/23 03:54 PM
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yes? what about your title?
/r/MensRights06/05/23 03:17 AM
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Lets be clear here, after reading the comments it seems people think most/all women think like this because of this example. I can guarantee you that most women would look at this and think the girl is completely fucked up and in the wrong. This is the exception, not the rule.
/r/MensRights05/05/23 03:24 AM
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Godspeed, sir.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 09:46 PM
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I think a woman getting beat by a significantly stronger woman would receive more sympathy than a man getting beat by a significantly stronger man. Masculinity demands that men be able to fend for themselves and not acknowledge weakness and this result in less concern about male targeted violence. Yeah, I agree with this. In a way it could be seen as the stronger woman going out of her way to acquire skills/strength that simply isn't expected of most women as it is men. But also, I would not res…
/r/MensRights04/05/23 09:38 PM
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I think these are contributing factors to why so many men don't marry. But I don't think they're THE reason why. or even the leading reason why. So take it with a grain of salt.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 05:26 PM
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Alot of people here are jumping straight onto the divorce train its a bit extreme of a response. Look I agree that you should collect evidence. But I can't say you should just jump straight to divorce - especially when the only context I have is one paragraph. Collect evidence for a while, then approach her and try working on the issue with your partner. if you can resolve it, great the better for both of you. Marriage won't be perfect. If you can't and its divorce time, you have your evidence b…
/r/MensRights04/05/23 04:13 PM
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Domestic violence (also called domestic abuse) =/= getting beat up necessarily. Especially like the guy in this article. it would be a blunder to assume so. Sometimes it is. Sometimes women be crazy and pick up sharp objects or bats and shit. But the qualifications for domestic abuse are well below getting pounded like the guy in the article. In U.S and Europe men make up 40%-45% of domestic violence victims, and 70% of domestic violence instigators So.. that data appears to make my point..? Als…
/r/MensRights03/05/23 09:23 PM
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yup, I can 100% agree with the whole bit about establishing boundaries for "free speech". Its certainly difficult. I approach is somewhat like this: I don't think any speech should be banned. If you want to go out into the street and yell nazi propaganda things go ahead but you'll suffer the social consequences/fallout. But I draw the line at harassment, and organization. if someone out there is saying something I don't like, too bad for me. If they follow me around and make it so I can't even l…
/r/MensRights03/05/23 08:56 PM
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Do you think most people would be anywhere near as outraged if a 5'2 man was beat by an athletic 6'5 man? No, I don't think they would be as outraged. Because generally speaking its perceived that the difference in strength between them is still far less than a most men vs most women. More importantly, that the difference between them is seen as acceptable. and the closer they get to even the more acceptable it is. That 5'2 man can probably still beat up on a vast majority of women despite being…
/r/MensRights03/05/23 08:26 PM
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Yup. I agree, thats what she should have done. Two comments about that though: First, a woman beating up a man is rare and societies expectations aren't built on the exception to the rule, but rather the rule itself. a 6'2 trained to fight woman can very probably beat up on a 5'2 man. but that situation is incredibly unlikely. Second, she was able to train to a point where, even when coming from a different league of strength, she still overcame him - which is an impressive accomplishment and in…
/r/MensRights03/05/23 06:41 PM
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I Disagree strongly on point no.1. It is absolutely about not fighting people weaker than you. but it isn't simply any tiny amount weaker. if that were true, UFC fights would just be a bench-press comp or something wouldn't they? Women aren't just weaker - they're in a different league of strength. without working out a day all year, I'll still be stronger than like 95+% of all women. At least a man has the potential to be about as strong as you (close enough that technique matters) and thats a …
/r/MensRights03/05/23 03:35 AM
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Damn, there are some good answers here. Basically my understanding is this: Women do understand male struggles. In fact, you'll see many feminists point out ways in which the patriarchy negatively affects men. However, the more simplistic way to view it (and most people do this, or at least, the loudest ones do) is that basically you can't struggle if you have privilege. You can't struggle if you're white. You can't struggle if you're a man. You can't struggle if you're straight. You can't have …
/r/MensRights02/05/23 10:14 PM
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rip
/r/MensRights02/05/23 02:08 PM
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People usually focus on the loudest voices.
/r/MensRights02/05/23 02:07 PM
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Perhaps they get shut down - but that part isn't visible. for example, I see the misogyny as I scroll along and see/read a post. I don't stick around to see if the post stays up or what more people have to say. I don't really go back to it. and so I never see if its been shut down or anything. I doubt I'm alone in this. Probably the rest of the people looking in at this sub do so similarly. They'll see the header/title maybe read a short blurb and then conclude that this is what the sub is about…
/r/MensRights02/05/23 02:06 PM
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I must say that is certainly one point about this sub I am "proud?" of. That you can voice another opinion and not get banned into oblivion. Even an equivalent post to my earlier one, but in a feminist sub or something gets insta-banned. And yeah spaced for people like that to talk are dwindling. And thats an awkward thing to grapple. On one hand, it makes sense that undesirable discourse gets its spaces taken away. If you saw a pro-nazi sub for example (an extreme example) you probably might ag…
/r/MensRights02/05/23 02:02 PM
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I mean, I've seen some wild shit on here before. Sometimes there is misogyny. So it can be a bit of a mixed bag - and anyone can choose to focus on any part of it. There is enough here to build a wide variety of stories - including one about this being a breeding place for misogyny. Is r/diabla on that list of controversial communities? if not that would certainly be a hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights30/04/23 05:31 PM
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"Ignoring the threat, the youngster confided in his father about the alleged assault." This kid don't play. good for him.
/r/MensRights28/04/23 04:32 PM
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Tell me more about this objective beauty you speak of.
/r/MensRights28/04/23 04:31 PM
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They do form communities I'd say are equally as public as this. Guys who like to talk about being pick up artists and discuss their tactics are basically the antithesis here. They have forums and groups. There have been books published about pick up artist strategies. On shelves in bookstores. Seems pretty public to me.
/r/MensRights21/04/23 12:29 PM
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its funny because it got to a point in my relationship where, buying jewelry was actually not a tasteful move. sure you spend a bunch of money and its shiny - but it says absolutely nothing about the person. it doesn't make them feel seen. the same way buying them something for their hobbies, or something you know they'd never buy for themself, does.
/r/MensRights18/04/23 03:11 PM
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Are you really surprised though? I mean, there are analogous examples for men. Men do this exact same thing. Remember that book "The Game"? It is disgusting, but its disgusting on both sides. Those women who participate there are the exception, not the rule. And shutting down their subreddit won't accomplish anything. Might as well get a front row seat to their discussion.
/r/MensRights17/04/23 06:46 PM
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its certainly an interesting dichotomy. Its acceptable/allowed to "beat on someone" emotionally, but its completely unacceptable/illegal to do it physically. considering women are at a physical disadvantage they learned wayyy earlier on in human history to leverage emotional tactics. Ideally, whatever that girl who's free like a bird did - should be just as banned as if the guy she did that too, retaliates by cracking her jaw. One could argue, that men should learn the "emotional abuse" dance be…
/r/MensRights26/03/23 03:55 PM
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I would say that alot of Andrew Tate's philosophies are definitely the male version of a toxic feminist. Here is an example: Have you ever been over to the diabla sub? That is like, the core of hypergamy (they even mention it in the sub description). In that sub, they talk about all the different ways to manipulate men to their will/advantage. Andrew Tate does exactly the same thing except helps men manipulate women to their will. Very similarly to the principles in the book "The Game". His phil…
/r/AntiFeminists01/01/23 02:37 AM
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I think I remember seeing this posted in a context against feminists. And feminsts replied with "once gain, spinning everything to be the fault of women".
/r/AntiFeminists01/01/23 02:31 AM
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:O
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/22 03:20 AM
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I heard a similar gripe recently watching some of Ricky Gervais' comedy. He made a joke about someone (can't remember who) and was immediately branded a racist - because the person he made the joke about was black. The joke itself, wasn't racist. And he basically said "thats like telling me I can't make a joke about Bill Cosby and if I do I'm automatically racist". and I see this alot in arguments echoed by feminism. "The war in Ukraine is a feminist issue" because there are women who are suffer…
/r/AntiFeminists31/12/22 12:07 AM
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I could say the exact same thing about you. You think you're the first person to make a post like that? Tell me, is it because you didn't read the other identical posts? Or that you think your way of saying the same thing is somehow novel and enlightened?
/r/MensRights30/12/22 07:54 PM
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No, but he's born into a world where those things are pushed onto him more than women. So that when its time to go to school - significantly more men go into engineering and construction. He's born into a world where he gets lego's and dump trucks for his 4th birthday - wheras she get Barbie play houses and play kitchens. A world where the father is more likely to include the son, rather than the daughter, when making repairs in the home or on the car for educational purposes. So once you're 30 …
/r/MensRights30/12/22 07:53 PM
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Although I agree, there is one point of unfairness to be considered here. Women haven't had to develop this over millennia. Asking a woman born into a world where women never had to do this, to do this. is like asking a coddled sheltered kid to suddenly go into the world and take charge of shit. Like asking a newborn who can barely walk - to go hunt for dinner. Nevertheless, they're still saying this shit despite that.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 07:35 PM
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"I don't need a man" is a different sentence from "I/We don't need men". She needs men to do the things you said. she doesn't need A man for herself. personally. To support her or whatever.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 07:31 PM
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I'm just gonna start using "Fat Girl Energy" and see what happens YOLO
/r/MensRights30/12/22 06:50 PM
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Yep, Well I must say I haven't been banned from the "antifeminist" subs yet. I have been banned from many Feminist subs. But I take that with a grain of salt - Considering I myself am a man. so I probably push their buttons harder. Maybe I should start challenging things here a bit harder just to see what happens. I have also seen that, people getting banned simply for joining or commenting in another sub. THAT is some fucking wild shit. and terribly unproductive towards their goals. You can't r…
/r/AntiFeminists30/12/22 02:04 AM
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Its interesting to hear the Swedish perspective - you (we?) don't get that too often. And It would seem that systemic racism isn't as prevalent there as it is in other parts of the world. The 8 year education to become a police office is awesome I wish they had that in north america. What you're describing is "diversity hiring" (there is also "Diversity admissions" in school). I've wrestled with that for a while - because the fact is that its not fair. However the problem is that a fair approach…
/r/AntiFeminists30/12/22 01:56 AM
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First of all, The Club isn't real life man. The social rules in a club - are different from the rest of the world. Andrew Tate's approach is fucking spot-on if you're clubbing in Ibiza - where you're surrounded by narcissistic, Hypergamous, emotionally damaged women desperately hungry for attention. Just like the club girls you described with their tits out. They don't wanna fuck but they LOVE the attention because, well, they have issues man.But this is a smaller subset of women and most defini…
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:35 AM
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I don't think it reduces them to sexual objects. However, the implication is that its insulting because it assumes we want women but can't have them. Therefore, its only an insult if one assumes that a woman is a mans highest priority. To be fair, the involuntary part of that does capture part of that. otherwise it would simply be celebate right? involuntary assumes you tried but weren't "good enough". Nevertheless it is interested that the insult is sort of centered around them. "haha you can't…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 03:32 AM
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In my experience trawling both Feminist AND .. "Manosphere"? Antifeminist? subs - is that its always an echo chamber. By biggest disappointment with Reddit as a whole is just how much of an echo chamber its become. Even when you go into a sub like "AskFeminists" you see the guys dancing around eggshells as they try to phrase their question full of fear some feminist is going to blow their lid just at the phrasing. Same is true for political left and right. Echo Chamber EVERYWHERE MAN!
/r/AntiFeminists29/12/22 02:54 AM
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Firstly, The actual post seems to be a departure from the title entirely. The title is pretty clickbait, but the post itself is well written. Thats a pretty fucked up situation over there. Secondly, Whats the fucking deal with religion and celibacy? Muslim's see it as only to produce a child? Christians require marriage - and your straight up banned if you're a priest or a nun? Was the dude who kicked off religion sexually frustrated or something wtf? Third, your comment on that post - which you…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:31 AM
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ooof that one's sadly on point. The irony is that Feminists who talk about how the Patriarchy hurts men too - are referring exactly to shit like this. And yet they would still call them an incel and ignore them.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:16 AM
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Man that whole exchange between them is so unbelievably cringe. Why is he telling her about all his cars in the first place? Just to troll her? why? Why is she responding with something as unintelligent as "haha u has small pp"? Why was Tate's reply "thanks for confirming you have small dick energy" so Beta ? Why isn't anyone talking about how hypocritical "small pp" insults are coming from the left? Why isn't anyone talking about the consequences Greta's advice have had on Europe (or the world …
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:09 AM
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I've heard people echo your sentiments before. People can be privileged in different ways simultaneously. So, you may also be impoverished - however statistically speaking and all other things being equal you're more likely to be hired or interviewed than someone named "Tyrone" or "Jamal" for example. But there's really no way for you to interpret or perceive that is there? You have the privilege of being treated better by the police. You have the privilege of being more represented in movies an…
/r/AntiFeminists29/12/22 01:41 AM
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I am focusing more on smaller stuff Although I agree, the real question is where, and more importantly how do you draw the line? I also agree you should let people have their opinions, and not censor free speech. the consequences of their opinions/actions should be enough. It sounds like we should distinguish between equal opportunity and equal outcome. Privilege is a thing, and many people care to cultivate privilege for their children. So that their children can accomplish more than they did. …
/r/AntiFeminists29/12/22 12:48 AM
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I'd love to hear you elaborate on that one. Just because a man can't get laid despite wanting to, in no way inherently implies womens value is diminished to sex... But it does however establish that sex with women has value (which is not the same thing). Obviously, otherwise it wouldn't be involuntary.
/r/AntiFeminists28/12/22 11:20 PM
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The double standard doesn't seem particularly clear here. Is it that women on OF are willing to sell their porn to old dudes but onces its real, they're creeps? Is it that women ... go for older guys? ??
/r/AntiFeminists28/12/22 10:51 PM
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Ooof, I dunno about this one boys. Even I'm getting some incel vibes from this. too much, too much! look, there's alot in this video to unpack. Its honestly too much to write a post and capture it all. but I would be stoked to discuss any parts of the video with anyone. Name a part you agree with and I'll dissect it (or perhaps agree, there are some truths). But otherwise, please don't let this guide you - even if it resonates with your frustration.
/r/AntiFeminists28/12/22 09:59 PM
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I agree that nobody likes whiny people. But I disagree with this part. shut up if you don't like something someone said then don't listen, do your shit and don't intervene If that were the case, we would never make progress. Change would never happen. We stand on the shoulders of people who did not shut up in the past. Its how Slavery got abolished. Its how unions came into existence. Just to name a couple. In fact, I'd say we have a Duty to fight for a better world. To stand up for what we beli…
/r/AntiFeminists28/12/22 07:47 PM
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For sure its going down on both sides. If you probe my account you'll see that I follow several feminist subs. I like to hear both sides of the argument - And point out hypocrisies when I see them considering this platform is effectively a soapbox (and hence I get banned alot lol). But I'll never be caught dead saying "Women's Rights should be banned for hate" despite them doing the same thing over there. That's definitely a hypocrisy. You can't say Women's/Men's rights should be banned in the s…
/r/AntiFeminists28/12/22 05:50 AM
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It is, beacuse if women want to keep her lifestyle or future for their child, she must go to work to make this 5x loss. But only women have rights to change terms of agrement after rings. notice how you said "for their child"? Tell me, what the fuck do high heels have to do with children? There is a very distinct and important difference here. Women don't have "rights to change terms of agreement after rings" any more than men, this is ridiculous. Elaborate? ​ About dad bods: Child change hormon…
/r/AntiFeminists28/12/22 01:34 AM
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Imagine saying "Mens Rights should be banned for hate". like, in a sentence completely seriously. Someone started another thread earlier asking "what makes you anti feminist" or something. This. This type of shit right here.
/r/AntiFeminists28/12/22 12:31 AM
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Actually, I do consider myself a feminist in the basic sense. Similar to how Dave Chapelle called it out. I do agree in equal opportunity and fair treatment and all that. I've gained much perspective following feminist subs. The reason part of me is antifeminist is because there are a bunch of women simply taking it too far. And using feminism as a blanket for anything. There is no unified direction or voice. Its latching onto everything and its quite frankly getting pretty ridiculous. Some page…
/r/AntiFeminists27/12/22 07:09 PM
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I don't think the pay part is comparable. By analogy, a 5x reduction in pay would be matched by a 5x reduction in child care or housekeeping. One is for your family (income and child care) and the other is for your spouse (appearance). Now, if you have a relationship with no kids then maybe you might have an argument, but then it also implies you're basically just trading money for looks in that relationship - which effectively makes your wife an escort... Also, plenty of men give up on their lo…
/r/AntiFeminists27/12/22 07:00 PM
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ehhh. I guess the whole thing is that its an assumption even if it is true more than its not. Its implying that women don't care about their looks once they settle down - and because it makes fun of this it also implies that they should. Which, I mean, can be argued either way. Taking care of 3 kids is quite a tall order. expecting her to dress well and whatnot prioritizes her appearance over her comfort. Suggesting that she still has to "serve a mans world despite the burdens of children". Its …
/r/AntiFeminists27/12/22 05:06 PM
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I mean, my garbage only gets picked up once a week. I get paid once every 2 weeks. What is an example of a necessary service that absolutely wouldn't survive even 1 day? Maybe police? I can see the counter-argument that there would be less crimes.... But women can be real cunts towards each other. If only the women cops remain is it enough to keep the peace?
/r/AntiFeminists27/12/22 06:27 AM
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why is "male" in quotes? (well, apostrophe's apparently but I digress).
/r/AntiFeminists27/12/22 03:34 AM
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Plot Twist: Certain types of women start enslaving the others. A new social order develops - and it isn't a fairytale one.
/r/AntiFeminists27/12/22 03:32 AM
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would they actually shut down in a day? like there's no "Autopilot" or whatever automated running on them such that they'll probably be fine for a day?
/r/AntiFeminists27/12/22 03:31 AM
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And this is why body count matters. BUT - more specifically, I recently saw someone better articulate that argument. Its not so much the body count, but the proximity. 1 guy thats in your circle is worse than 20 guys on the other side of the world you'll never see. This is literally every mans worst fear when it comes to body count. she slept with every single one of those guys. This is how you create a mass murderer.
/r/AntiFeminists22/12/22 02:50 AM
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came here to comment this too lol. Also, what kind of rule is #7 lol this list is supposed to define what fits. thats just basically a blanket statement for mods to .. well... Violate rule 6.
/r/AntiFeminists16/12/22 02:32 AM
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I don't think a "war" between feminist/antifeminists is necessary at all. If they're as wild as they seem, they'll fail naturally. Think about how this ends for them? Also, feminism is highly visible on the internet, its everywhere. But is that reflected in real life? I just don't see anywhere near the same presence out in the real world. What actual ground have they gained, that's actually bad? Those wild feminists we see are pretty extreme, and pretty rare. The equivalent of the extreme left, …
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 05:17 PM
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Sad :( I wish I didn't have to move to the other side of the world.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 02:50 PM
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I didn't know this was a thing. I spend a descent amount of time abroad for work. and I found that I'm way more attracted to european women (specifically German and Spanish). To be fair I spend most of my time in Europe, I would likely find South American women more attractive too? Now, this is likely heavily influenced by the fact that I am of European ethnicity. They reflect similar cultural values to those I was raised with. This could mean I was raised with patriarchal or misogynistic values…
/r/AntiFeminists27/10/22 04:58 PM
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If she thinks this is true, she must believe people are just "born entitled" - and probably that only men can be born entitled. Otherwise the concept of what a Root Cause is, has evaded her.
/r/AntiFeminists08/10/22 08:37 AM
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That's just a quote from Talladega Nights/Ricky Bobby... I don't think its meant to be taken seriously. Just like the movie.
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/22 06:37 PM
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Do you tell your employer to not pay you when you take your paid vacation ? or are you a hypocrite? Either way, research shows that society as a whole benefits greatly from this "socialist" practice.
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/22 05:57 PM
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"obviously you're a troll only arguing in bad faith"
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/22 05:47 PM
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To be fair, from what I can see most "extreme ends" of any spectrum leave logic behind. Far left, illogical. Far right, illogical. Extreme feminists, illogical. Incels, Illogical. Extreme anti-feminists, illogical. Extreme racists, illogical. Extreme anti-racists, illogical. With feminism in particular, there is a sort of "confidence" that comes with entering a debate as a female. you can always lean on that "I'm a woman, how are you going to presume to tell me anything about feminism". In the s…
/r/AntiFeminists29/08/22 05:20 PM
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sometimes you have to bring yourself down to raise her up. And raising her up should be worth more to you than the hit to your ego. ​ Having to kneel means you are on her feet, she has the decision, she has the power, she is higher, it's not 'equality' Are you implying that she wouldn't have a decision if you were standing instead??? she has just as much objective power regardless of whether you stand or kneel. The kneeling is really truly just a gesture here... she doesn't actually gain any rea…
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 01:41 AM
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Although I can see where you're coming from, I disagree that it's "demeaning". If you think the girl you're going to marry will literally look down on you or belittle you - you're marrying the wrong girl... Being able to show vulnerability is a strength. Kneeling down doesn't actually take any leverage or power away from you, how do you think anyone could take advantage of you in that situation outside trying to attack your ego? It's kind of how when you train martial arts they teach you to be r…
/r/AntiFeminists12/08/22 03:36 PM
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Everyone tries to have their cake and eat it too. One way or another. Objectively, Intellectually, there's nothing really wrong with a body count. Its more of a social thing that even I subscribe to. Mostly along the lines of "with great power comes great responsibility". Being unable to manage the temptation of all men trying to fuck you is, for me, a display of a lack of discipline and self-worth. Kind of like an adult being unable to control how much candy they eat in a candy store or somethi…
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 04:56 PM
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Women get to pick who they fuck Men get to pick who they marry.
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 10:12 PM
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Amazing LOL
/r/AntiFeminists08/07/22 05:22 PM
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Do you strike against men in France, or against the government? Because those are two very different things. Here are the reasons why I think the strike won't work: 1.) Most men are already pro-choice anyways. 2.) The decision isn't a democratic one based on votes. 3.) Most women will continue to have sex regardless. 4.) Women aren't actually in a position of strength to start a "gender war". Imagine if this happens and men fire back and say "ok, no sex, no rights" and start repealing women's ri…
/r/AntiFeminists29/06/22 08:13 PM
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Because it isn't going to get men on their side.... It is men who made abortion illegal, but most men are already pro-choice. This wasn't a democratic decision - they didn't poll the country to see what the people want. The few men who made it illegal, won't be swayed by a sex strike. It's just a really poor attempt at leverage on the whole.
/r/AntiFeminists29/06/22 05:19 PM
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why are you still in this relationship?? this is a textbook example of an abusive relationship. You need to get out for your own sake. She needs to see a therapist real bad - and honestly, I think you could benefit from one too. In my experience, there is an "opposites attract" thing going on here, and the reason you're still there is because you have some of your own (albeit different) issues (ask me how I know, lol). A "healthy" person would exit this relationship so fast.
/r/AntiFeminists29/06/22 04:24 PM
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So, presumably, I interpret this as leveraging men to fight for their side. The ideal outcome being men turn out in droves to fight for abortion laws with women - and that the combined efforts are what's needed to get the rights they want. I don't think they realize that most men are already on their side, this wasnt some democratic decision. And also, turns out women rather like sex too. They don't want to give it up either. This will likely devolve into women claiming to be on a sex strike whi…
/r/AntiFeminists28/06/22 08:26 PM
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