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I think so. Honestly, anything you have is very helpful.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 08:25 PM
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Thanks. I search for "harass" because I wanted the search to be as broad as possible but I guess some slipped through the net.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 07:00 PM
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I think saying "Men having rights is apparently a controversial topic" doesn't paint the whole picture. That's not to say that this subreddit or the people who frequent it are bad. In fact, it's the opposite. It's probably the most welcoming and I find the sub is more likely to the victim of brigading than the instigator. However, saying "men's rights is sooooo controversial (/s)" is a lot like the feminists who say, "yes, feminism wanting equal rights for men and women makes us so evil. /s". We…
/r/MensRights18/07/14 04:45 PM
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Have to say, getting a bit tired of Thunderf00t making a bunch of different videos about the same thing. And Anita Sarkeesian makes literally a dozen or so mistakes in each of her videos. Facts are meaningless and irrelevant to her. "BUSTED!" ... Really? For that? It's about the fiftieth time she's done it. She's made worse mistakes in the past -- using other people's videos and artwork without their permission were far bigger errors that she was called out on -- whereas this is just run-of-the-…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 10:10 PM
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It was about e-mailing the Prince William County Commonwealth’s Attorney and the chief of police, to express concerns about the case. It did not advocate doxing.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 09:59 PM
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That's actually my big issue with Thunderf00t. Anita Sarkeesian makes many, many mistakes and it's far better to debunk her by picking from a variety of her flawed arguments rather than digging your hooks into one and tugging on it. There's no need to look for one "smoking gun" argument that makes the rest of her arguments topple like a house of cards because all of her arguments are flimsy at best and some of them are outright lies. In fact, when Thunderf00t made his very first reply to Anita, …
/r/MensRights08/07/14 07:12 PM
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This article actually gets it right, albeit without pointing out the double standard that men have to do more work. As a tennis fan, women should have to play five sets. The thing is, the longest that a women's tennis match can go is the shortest that a men's tennis match can go (three sets). Even though tennis is one of those sports where each game can go for an indeterminate amount of time, it's still clear that men's games will go on for a lot longer on average. Five sets is also more excitin…
/r/MensRights07/07/14 09:20 PM
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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I like that guy. Funny video but has a strong message at the end.
/r/MensRights07/07/14 01:28 AM
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This reminds me of a comment I saw here on Reddit back when the SNL sketch about men's rights (or their version of it) aired. It revolved around the fact that the "enlightened" white women had to inform the poor, ignorant non-white woman about the "truth" of men's rights. The commenter said something that really stayed with me; that the white women thought of themselves as a catch or a prize for the man and looked negatively on the non-white woman for having different viewpoints (being from a di…
/r/MensRights05/07/14 01:57 PM
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This needs to fizzle out and quickly. Unfortunately, I don't think Paul Elam's ego is capable of admitting when he's wrong and when to avoid making stupid decisions. Elam needs to keep his petty grievances to himself instead of airing his dirty laundry in public. Because of Adam McPhee saying, "we need to kick out the extremists on both sides", Elam argues, "CAFE is being too reasonable! Stop supporting them!"? AVFM has its place in the men's rights movement but nobody, least of all Elam, should…
/r/MensRights03/07/14 02:22 AM
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Awesome analysis, saved for future reference.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 02:10 AM
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He was male. He was rejected by a feminist group for being male. He was a man who committed suicide, which is a hugely important issue to men's rights activists. All good reasons.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 01:57 AM
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While we're on the topic, women also invented TV dinners, the first computer and Jell-O. That's funny. TIL that Charles Babbage was a woman.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 07:27 PM
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A kindergarten-age child doesn't even have a signature, let alone a concept of sex. How ridiculous is it that teachers can force a child to sign something like that, without a legal guardian present and brand them with it for the next twelve years?
/r/MensRights28/06/14 12:39 AM
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I just took a short stroll over to my PS3 and took a quick look at the game boxes piled up next to it. Out of the twelve games I've been playing recently, only two of them have exclusively male protagonists. Only two of them have exclusively female protagonists too. The rest feature either a mix of both or a choice of a male or female character. Now, I'm not saying "ha-ha! You see!? This is proof that men and women are equal in games!!!" There is a disparity. However, to say the disparity is any…
/r/MensRights25/06/14 08:27 PM
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Haven't watched Anita's latest video but I know one of her arguments is that bodies disappearing after enemies are killed is evidence of female disposability. This is a genuine quote: "Their status as disposable objects is reinforced by the fact that in most games discarded bodies will simply vanish into thin air a short time after being killed." Now, even if you don't play video games, you'll probably know why this is ridiculous. To give the extremely simplified version, the more stuff there is…
/r/MensRights25/06/14 11:58 AM
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That's not the case; the lack of female characters has been severely exaggerated by feminist critics of gaming.
/r/MensRights25/06/14 11:49 AM
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This is one of the most horrible stories I've ever heard.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 05:51 PM
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Wise move. I've been soured on things like Facebook links for a while now anyway.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 01:29 AM
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You should warn people about the graphic imagery on that site. A lot of people don't like to see pictures of dead bodies ...
/r/MensRights14/06/14 02:18 PM
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"Imagine having weights tied to your feet and a gag around your mouth, and then being asked to explain why you think you are at an unfair disadvantage." I don't have to imagine, thanks "Juliana".
/r/MensRights14/06/14 02:13 PM
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I know the sample size is ridiculously small but you know, I wouldn't be surprised if this was close to the truth; think about how common it is to praise and reward women -- mothers in particular -- in the media compared to men. While women are constantly lionised, men are always portrayed as bumbling fools. Being presented with gratitude is probably a big deal because so few men are used to receiving it, at least frequently.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 12:40 AM
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So having security to protect MRAs sounds ominous but protesting feminist lectures and conferences is the way forward? Judging from this and your previous comments, you really don't appear to understand what the men's rights movement is about.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:00 PM
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I disagree. To me, it was just the final straw in why I couldn't accept Elam's confrontational and aggressive style. I can put up with it as long as I feel he has men's best interests at heart but, by barely mentioning the young man who suffered the false accusation and instead focusing on attacking a feminist, he proved that wasn't the case. That was an opportunity to take the high ground. Show Grossman and everyone else that her son was supported by the MRM. But no, Elam wanted his five minute…
/r/MensRights10/06/14 09:45 PM
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Funny stuff. Saved for future use. :) For anyone who thinks this is a strawman argument, maybe you should view these links: Schrodinger's Rapist Can men be taught not to rape? - One of a trend of articles about men needing to be "taught" not to commit an act that only a small amount of criminals partake in. Fear of rape oppresses all women - "Fear of sexual assault, rape or other forms of male sexual violence is the outcome of asymmetric power relations between men and women. This fear oppresses…
/r/MensRights10/06/14 04:05 PM
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Slightly off-topic but a response article to this on A Voice For Men -- called "Fuck You, Judith Grossman" -- was the reason I stopped visiting AVFM. Elam seemed to care more about saying "ha ha, told you so" to Grossman than offering sympathy to the young man who was a victim of a false accusation.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 03:46 PM
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I'm confused; they're raising money to protect women's rights and voter's rights? As in "we already have these rights and are giving a talk on how to keep them"? Is that the case or am I misunderstanding the situation?
/r/MensRights08/06/14 08:24 PM
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I don't like Paul Elam. To be completely blunt and without going into why, I think he's a dick. However, it's hard to argue with results. I don't think the men's rights movement could be as organised as it is without Elam. AVFM is incredibly popular, the site attract writers of various skin colours, sexes and sexualities -- demolishing the "men's rights activists are all sexist straight white guys" argument immediately -- and has a bunch of important men's rights figures associated with it; Warr…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 07:01 PM
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I know lots of people have already responded but I'll share my opinion too: I think the closest I've seen to that type of reaction here is the occasion comment about how dangerous it is to get married. Personally, I think that reaction can be a little extreme and paranoid but I haven't noticed any sweeping generalisations about women as severe as those that you state. However, I also disagree with the idea that a "serious feminist" would generalise groups of men like that; in my experience, it's…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 03:40 PM
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I think people thought he was apart of the mens movement because he thought he was entitled to so much from women because he was a man. Which is not an aim or goal of the men's rights movement. So why would they make the connection? but in all honesty, how many femenists ACTUALLY said that to you? Since the Elliot Rodger killings, I've read the terms "male entitlement", "male rage" and how simply by supporting tolerance for men (Laurie Penny's words), I'm reducing the importance of violence agai…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 11:36 AM
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I'm no fan of AVFM. However, they're not Anita Sarkeesian. They don't play the victim to take people's money. They're actually taking the opportunity to do something good. If you want to talk about scapegoating, maybe you should read the dozens of Elliot Rodger articles that have done the rounds since he murdered six people. Which, incidentally, is why I'm not taking a Raw Story article on this subject seriously. And tell me, how exactly has AVFM "demonized and smeared protesters"? In case you'v…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 12:04 AM
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I would agree with this more but opposing feminism is not the same as opposing women. Indeed, one of the reasons I take issue with feminism is the way it portrays women as victims in need of assistance rather than strong, capable people who are my equals. Besides, the sub is about men's rights. Men's issues aren't heard about anywhere near as often as women's issues are in the mainstream media. That's not to say that issues that affect women aren't important but there's a reason why you don't he…
/r/MensRights02/06/14 12:47 AM
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Shame. I always wanted to visit South Korea.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 12:33 AM
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You know, up until the reaction to the Elliot Rodger killings, I actually had some faith that feminism, at its core, was misguided as it gets but still intent on doing the right thing. I thought feminism had some moral goals that the movement was aiming to achieve, in spite of the ways they were going about it. This is just the latest in a long list of articles that killed that faith stone-dead. Think about it, how often have you heard about a group of “radical feminists” gang raping a 12-year-o…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 07:27 PM
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Yes, I am. There was one occasion when I was walking home around 3am after a night out and caught sight of a man and a woman across the street, just staring at me. It's the kind of thing that you wouldn't think twice about during the day but when it happens on a Saturday night and you're all alone, you become paranoid about. Luckily, they were actually friendly; the guy asked if I was okay and told me to watch the roads.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 09:15 PM
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Amazingly comprehensive collection and it's remarkable how, even with over 200 pictures, I can still think of more examples (mainly television commercials here in the UK, from Muller Light, Minstrels and every Diet Coke advert ever).
/r/MensRights31/05/14 03:14 PM
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It feels strange how unsurprised I am by this response. That letter to Paul Elam is fantastic. I'd love it if these violence and death threats ended up making the news.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 01:27 AM
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Your ignorance about hardships facing boys and men around the world is the reason that MRAs exist.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 04:48 PM
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Took the words out of my mouth there, blueoak9. You can't point at someone who wanted to murder the male half of the world's population and say "see, that guy did what he did because he's a misogynist". There's more to it than that. You can't pidgeonhole this guy into just one category: He loathed other men and four of his victims were male. I haven't seen his crimes blamed on misandry. He loathed other races and half of his victims were Asian. I haven't seen his crimes blamed on racism. He loat…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 09:47 PM
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That's not even close to what I said.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 06:47 PM
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I didn't say I would punch Wil Wheaton but anyone who does would be going easy on him. Besides, there is a limit; are you saying that people opposed to violence shouldn't want to punch, say, a member of the KKK?
/r/MensRights28/05/14 04:42 PM
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Wil Wheaton spearheaded a movement to get Ryan Perez, a writer for Destructoid, fired from his job just because he said he disliked Felicia Day on Twitter (saying she was little more than a glorified booth babe). Wheaton succeeded. Trust me, although I'm opposed to violence, a punch in the face would actually be going easy on Wil Wheaton. I have no respect for anyone who abuses their popularity like that.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 04:18 PM
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I'm not saying you're wrong ... but still have to downvote because it's no better to blame feminism than it is to blame the MRM. You can blame feminism for its disgusting exploitation of the tragedy though.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 04:00 PM
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You know, when Elliot Rodger's mental illness comes up, I've read responses from several people who say "you're blaming mentally ill people for this!? GTFO of here with that sh*t!" or something similar. The point, which is being missed when you read responses like those, is that only by acknowledging that Rodger had a mental illness can the severity of it be understood. It's not holding Rodger up as some representative of those who suffer from mental illnesses but to not acknowledge it at all is…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 03:59 PM
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Two things you might be interested in knowing about the SPLC: The FBI stopped using them as a resource because it found their list of "hate groups" to be unreliable. The SPLC took donations from transphobic radical feminists such as Cathy Brennan, which is the reason no trans-exclusionary radical feminists ever appeard on their site.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 01:26 PM
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It depends. For one thing, if the woman was also a racist, I wouldn't be so quick to say that misandry was the sole cause for her attack. Nor would I hold her up as a representation of, say, "female hysteria" in the same way that "male entitlement" is. Plus, Elliot Rodger was a misogynist but not an MRA. MRA arguments are goals are clearly defined and they certainly were not present in his manifesto. There was no overlap and no evidence that he was an MRA. If a woman killed/injured a dozen peopl…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 12:35 PM
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He wasn't remotely connected. Didn't post here, didn't like any MRA videos on Youtube. The closest related group to MRAs that Rodger interacted with is pick-up artists and even they distanced themselves from him; prior to the shooting, they came across one of his videos and said he needed to get help. It seems clear now that I practically answered my own question; people are politicising the deaths of the six victims to push their own agenda.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 12:15 PM
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I apologise.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 11:44 AM
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I understand that you're new here -- welcome to Reddit! -- but not all men are privileged. Men are four times as likely to commit suicide. Men suffer ninety percent of workplace deaths. Men make up the majority of the homeless. Men also only make up one-third of college graduates. Male illnesses (prostate and testicular cancer) receive less funding than female ones. Male victims of rape and domestic violence have fewer resources, nowhere near as many awareness campaigns and far less respect from…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 12:05 AM
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That's actually a good idea. There's a feedback form for the site here: http://www.salon.com/feedback
/r/MensRights27/05/14 09:07 PM
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I certainly think virgin-shaming is a good thing to make an awareness campaign out of. It's an underreported phenomenon that is damaging to a lot of people. I think tying it into Elliot Rodger is a mistake though. Looking at his behaviour and some of the things he's said, it feels like he would've killed people regardless of whether he'd lost his virginity or not.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 05:32 PM
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Finally, a sensible article. Just this, the Forbes one and various Daily Mail articles seem to get it right.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 05:24 PM
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One thing I remember from when Glenn Sacks used to write his blog was a story about two lesbians going through a custody battle and one of the women always being given what he referred to as "the Dad treatment"; one woman is portrayed by the family courts as having a strong maternal bond with the child and the other woman is portrayed as ... a wallet. I certainly feel that women in same-sex relationships can be given the short end of the stick by feminism, particularly with regards to rape and d…
/r/MensRights27/05/14 05:04 PM
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The exact same thing happened to me last year. Someone I'd been speaking to for years stopped talking to me after one conversation about feminism (that I insisted I didn't want to have, several times, since I knew it would annoy her). Then, amongst the statements in the "debate" -- in which she acknowledged she didn't even read my arguments -- she said things like "Men have just as many resources for rape as women in America," and "you are thinking with your penis". I was actually concerned abou…
/r/MensRights27/05/14 12:39 PM
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You are giving support and it's very helpful. Ignore shinarit.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 12:28 PM
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Done. Signed up and reported.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 11:35 AM
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I think people are being far too generous when talking about the reactions focusing on women. Rodger was also a huge racist, showing disgust for interracial relationships and "full Asian" men but that hasn't been singled out as a cause in the same way that misogyny has. Likewise, he described other men as "obnoxious brutes" and wrote forum posts about how great it would be if we all died from a virus but he had the antidote, so he could have his pick of the beautiful women. Again, this isn't men…
/r/MensRights26/05/14 08:31 PM
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Maybe both Gawrsh and Unconfidence would be more willing to discuss the points of the thread if you weren't making MRAs out to be sexist jerks. And inventing weird terms like "Vaginamoney" while you're at it.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 11:50 AM
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Because "not all feminists are like that". Duh!!! In all seriousness, out of the few who actually acknowledge that misandry is a real thing, feminists insist that "feminism helps men too" and men's issues are being worked on. They also insist that, in spite of the evidence to the contrary on television, in journalism circles and mainstream feminist organisations (such as NOW), feminists who don't support men's issues are a minority.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 10:28 PM
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I'll try to quickly clarify a few things for any non-MR visitors who happen to visit this sub, based on sensationalised stories about Elliot Rodger being "influenced" by the men's rights movement: Rodger was not influenced by the MRM. There's no evidence for it. There is evidence that he frequented pick-up artist (PUA) forums, which is competely unrelated to the MRM. A Forbes article even states that, "this is severe oversimplification, and an overly rapid rush to judgment". (Source) Even PUAs r…
/r/MensRights25/05/14 01:16 AM
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Is it my imagination or did TAA used to be more popular than he is now? Can't say I'm disappointed. Bringing that Sharon Osbourne video to a wider audience is about the only good thing he's done.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 04:14 PM
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GeorgeOlduvai, you're way off the mark here. Trying to diminish other people's suffering with "but ours is worse!" is a feminist argument. Knock it off. This is about the abuse and inhumane treatment of prison inmates. If you want to argue that the overwhelming majority of prisoners being male makes this a far more pressing issue for men, fine. That would make sense. But don't dismiss stuff like sexual assault just because nobody died.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 04:07 PM
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You're talking nonsense. I don't accept the "man up" BS when anyone tells me to do it, regardless of their gender.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 03:51 PM
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Again, my point is that the feminists you decry are actually your allies if you want to make a positive difference in the lives of men. Spend a few minutes on our side of the fence and you'd see that what we want -- to make a positive difference in the lives of men, as you said -- falls on deaf ears when we actually try to find feminist "allies". Take your pick of one of these feminist responses! "Oh no, what about teh menz!?" "Your manfeelz aren't important. We're dealing with real issues." "Fe…
/r/MensRights22/05/14 06:24 PM
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I thought the comments were hilarious. The amount of insanity on both sides made me literally laugh out loud.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 07:56 AM
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Just thought I'd point out that this comic was drawn by Europa-Phoenix, who has his own blogspot and is the regular artist for Honey Badger Radio, featuring GirlWritesWhat and TyphonBlue.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 12:29 PM
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SchizoKitten, I think I love you. :) You have a way of cutting right through the crap.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 12:24 PM
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So what? That doesn't make it justifiable in the slightest. I think the term "victim-blaming" has been overused by feminists (often in situations when there are no victims, or blaming) but what you're doing is a prime example. What SchizoKitten does with her own life is her business and has nothing to do with the average joe or jane she passes on the street. It's none of their business so if they speak up, they've made a conscious effort to act like a jerk based on their phobias. You seem to be …
/r/MensRights20/05/14 12:22 PM
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Speaking of which, GirlWritesWhat, is there any chance that you may begin to make videos like these again? I have to say, I prefer them over Honey Badger Radio.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 05:25 PM
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That's pretty much the first time I've seen any of those arguments from anyone except Manhood Academy trolls and "you've never been forced to die in a war" is the only one that I don't find sexist. So you're right to not believe that /r/MensRights is responsible for comments like those. When the other issues -- not being allowed to vote, being paid less, etc. -- come up in this sub, there are other opinions and arguments to explain why they occurred. Not such childish and sexist insults as "you'…
/r/MensRights18/05/14 09:01 PM
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She has a video called "me, a feminist? No way". And I believe Christina Hoff Sommers distances herself from mainstream feminism by calling herself an "equity feminist".
/r/MensRights17/05/14 10:34 AM
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Now the NY Daily News is suggesting that Solange was upset because "Rachel is a little too close to Jay-Z". You know, I miss the days when a man could attack his sister-in-law in public because she was spending too much time with a man who wasn't her husband. ... Oh, wait ... that's never happened.
/r/MensRights16/05/14 04:09 PM
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Well, Justin is clearly part of the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 01:16 PM
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I thought the same thing when Darren Young (the WWE wrestler) came out as gay a while back. Everyone made a huge deal about it when Pat Patterson -- openly gay former wrestler and first ever Intercontinental Champion -- has been Vince McMahon's right-hand man for decades.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 06:27 PM
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Futrelle needs to learn what "rape apologism" is.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:22 AM
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I've heard plenty of rape jokes from comedians, although nobody I know. The problem is that comedians make jokes mocking religion, disability, race, sex, death, etc. So why on earth is rape off-limits?
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:20 AM
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Draw the Mars male symbol on your floor (♂) and chant "Fedora" three times.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 01:14 AM
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Am I the only one who noticed that Redfel is actually denigrating the men's rights movement and using the same "lol fedora!" stereotype that Tumblr feminists fall back on? Hell, he's using an image of a fat, balding, bumbling dad as an example of MRAs he disagrees with. I actually spent a minute searching the poster for a Manhood 101 signature. Things are different now than they were in the twenties. In case you haven't noticed, the internet has helped the MRM become larger and more organised. T…
/r/MensRights11/05/14 12:53 AM
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I'm not seeing it. He's saying his family worked hard to get him where he is today and he doesn't want that diminished.
/r/MensRights04/05/14 11:35 AM
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"Feminism claims that a woman who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth is a "victim" because of something that supposedly happened 100, or even 1000 years ago. This guy, too, thinks that something that happened generations ago justifies his own lot in life." On the contrary, he's refuting feminism based on their own standards of what "privilege" is. He's not claiming victimhood over it. He's just saying "recognise my successes for what they are; my successes and not those of my race and sex…
/r/MensRights04/05/14 11:17 AM
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I need feminism because who else will dismiss the issues of my sex while telling me that feminism is for gender equality?
/r/MensRights30/04/14 09:12 PM
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We are about equality between the sexes, the races, the sexualities, etc. However, feminism doesn't fit into any of those categories.
/r/MensRights30/04/14 08:31 PM
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Ehh ... I did downvote you at first but removed it straight away. I see where you're coming from. It's not so much the tone -- I'm more than happy for people to vent about injustices faced by men that bother them or the many, many hypocritical remarks of feminism -- but there could be more advocacy. 88231 subscribers (as of this writing) is a lot. We could do more. Actually, "MRA's are all misogynistic bastards" is pretty appalling. Downvoted. That'll teach you to put an apostrophe where it does…
/r/MensRights08/04/14 12:11 AM
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Something they fail to point out is it was the daughter's idea. Once again, women being treated as passive victims by feminists when, in fact, they're the ones coming up with the idea. Watch the video about the "wedding". It's pretty heartbreaking.
/r/MensRights07/04/14 01:05 PM
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Can I recommend not "outing" this person's identity? There's a reason people prefer to remain anonymous about men's rights. He could be targeted by people who take issue with the fact that he even posted here.
/r/MensRights07/04/14 12:37 PM
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Actually, last time I read any statistics on the subject, women committed every form of abuse more frequently than men except for sexual assault. You could still make the point about abuse but not sexual assault.
/r/MensRights07/04/14 12:35 PM
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Yeah, reading this as a Brit makes it seem like such a non-issue.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 01:50 PM
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You were doing so well until the last sentence devolved into schoolyard name-calling.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 03:43 PM
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Ian Miles Cheong and others are the only ones treating this woman like an object here: KSI treats this woman as someone perfectly capable of giving consent. Game journalists treat her as an object who has had something happen to her. Way to treat women as equals, gaming journalists.
/r/MensRights29/03/14 11:34 PM
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My three recommendations: Books: Spreading Misandry and Legalizing Misandry by Paul Nathanson & Katherine K. Young (I haven't read Sanctifying Misandry but it's probably as good). Online Videos: Anything by GirlWritesWhat on Youtube. Online Articles: No Country for Burly Men by Christina Hoff Sommers.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 10:54 PM
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And pro-lifers have a right to express their archaic, harmful, fossilized, evil, demonstrably incorrect, anti-woman stance I always hate seeing this belief that pro-lifers are anti-woman because that's an image of them that has been painted by feminists. Pro-lifers aren't anti-woman. If the genders were flipped and men were the sex to get pregnant and have abortions, it wouldn't change anything. They'd still be pro-life. They care about the fetus. The sex of the person doesn't enter into it (but…
/r/MensRights22/03/14 12:22 AM
10

The guy has 1,420 pageviews over the course of 2 years. Treat him like a child; ignore him and let him have his tantrum about those big, mean, nasty MRAs without giving him any attention that he desperately wants. That picture alone has received 279 more views today because of this link to it.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 09:02 PM
1

Hmm ... perhaps what you say is true. I thought about writing to someone within the college to ask about it but wasn't sure if it was a good idea while I'm a student there (especially since I have no plans to take the course). Do you think I should?
/r/MensRights19/03/14 12:12 AM
1

I suspect they're both the same but the mixed-gender course doesn't give enough information. The flexible start date and the fact that they're both part time may be causing confusion.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 09:54 PM
1

No, it's in the UK. My Firefox has a habit of replacing certain characters with other symbols, like the question marks you can see next to the fees. It should show the "£" sign instead.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 09:52 PM
1

I'm so sorry you go to this university, my friend.
/r/MensRights18/03/14 08:18 PM
3

That was so funny, I nearly choked on my privilege.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 12:33 AM
8

One of those citations is from Manboobz, of all people. Hardly a credible source. Plus, it was AVFM who doxxed the Georgetown admissions officer. Maybe it happened here too, I don't remember, but it was certainly spearheaded by AVFM rather than this sub.
/r/MensRights16/03/14 12:26 AM
6

Well said. I'm actually surprised there are so many dumb traditionalist assholes commenting in this thread.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 03:45 PM
13

It's funny that his mother used the "short skirt = rape" example, as that too follows the same concept. No, wearing a short skirt or taking an MLP lunchbox to school is not an open invitation to abuse, but it makes you stand out in the eyes of someone looking to do harm. So blame the people looking to do harm. The boy should be allowed to buy and show off merchandise from the show he likes without having to face shit like this.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 03:43 PM
9

That's a massive shame. Cowkitty seems to be getting stonewalled no matter what she tries to do, whether by Sarkeesian and now Reddit too? I expect this kind of behaviour from Sarkeesian. Not Reddit mods.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 12:31 PM
0

We're not going to agree on this. The fact is that the father's decision to see his own child being born should not be in the hands of anyone but himself. Anything else treats him as a secondary parent. There's a piece of legislation here in the UK that allows fathers up to six months of paternity leave ... but only if the mother returns to work early. This, to me, is exactly the same thing. You say it's about rights but technically, this doesn't give fathers any rights at all; it gives them rew…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 09:52 PM
0

But refusing to allow the father into the room during childbirth has nothing to do with any of those things. Having the father there does not add to the physical hardship, complications or medical bills. This is about the child. If something is wrong with the child, the father deserves to be present rather than sitting in the waiting room to be told later, as if he's a secondary parent. It's his child as much as it is hers.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:59 PM
0

It's not as simple as a non-clinician. It's a parent being deprived of making a parental decision.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 08:38 PM
0

I don't see how people can't have a problem with this. It's his child as well as hers. The "woman's right to control over her body and her pregnancy" is completely irrelevant. By putting the father's behaviour in the hands of the mother, she is completely free to deprive him of what could very well be the most significant moment of his life. Unless the father is a threat to the mother, the child or anyone else in the delivery room, this is unacceptable. It treats the father as a secondary parent…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:35 PM
19

Every writer on Cracked is as dogmatic as it gets when it comes to feminism. Criticising it on the forums can get you banned.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 07:21 PM
10

In short: "I'm sick of being corrected when I'm wrong and I'm going to blame men for it." This is about as childish as it gets.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 08:13 PM
2

Farrell's full response on the subject can be found here.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 06:49 PM
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Where have I been defending it. In my first comment I call it a shitty unfunny sketch and I stand by it. I'm more amused by the fact that everyone here is so pissed off by it. Where'd your sense of humour go? I don't need a sense of humour to not laugh at something. I agree, but did she even write the sketch? She performed in it so it's really irrelevant and disappointing. Whether she did or she didn't, you'd think she'd know better. I never get the hate though. It's a protest, it's a loud prote…
/r/MensRights10/03/14 01:12 AM
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Next time, try to stop body-shaming instead of retaliating with it back. By doing so, you're not pointing out "the hypocrisy" you're being being hypocritical yourself (ergo, you can't call out body-shaming with body-shaming). You're only perpetrating it and continuing its use. Two wrongs don't make a right, it's like middle school stuff. Says the person defending an SNL sketch that is clearly feminist-influenced. You know, the movement that is supposedly anti-body-shaming in the first place? If …
/r/MensRights10/03/14 12:24 AM
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when your group's response to it is more body shaming: "A bunch of unattractive unfunny women..." it hardly places you in a positive light. You're clearly missing the point. That comment and the response to it were calling out the hypocrisy. And the fact is that when a national television show like SNL sets body-shaming up as an acceptable response, you can hardly say "oh, you MRAs! Body-shaming women puts you in a negative light!" I've noticed this more and more recently in feminist circles; I'…
/r/MensRights09/03/14 11:50 PM
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Honestly, it bothers me more that they didn't come up with a better parody. I mean, isn't the point of satire supposed to be that it has some grounding in reality? In the 1998 Godzilla film, there were parodies of Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert because Roland Emmerich wanted to get back at them for panning his previous two movies (Stargate and Independence Day). Gene Siskel's response to the parodies was something along the lines of "if you really wanted to get back at us, why didn't you have the m…
/r/MensRights09/03/14 01:11 PM
10

You said this in another thread. I just downvoted it and moved on but I'll explain the problem here. Firstly, you're complaining about them saying "me me me", then you quickly move onto "we're the real victims here"! It's the same "what about women?" attitude that feminists have with every single issue except you're saying "what about men?" And worst of all, you're actually directing it at women who are against feminism just as much as you! One of the joys of talking to female MRAs and antifemin…
/r/MensRights09/03/14 01:58 AM
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This is actually pretty funny.
/r/MensRights03/03/14 03:31 PM
11

Once again, feminists trying to rebrand consensual drunken sex and ignore false accusations does a great job of undermining actual victims of rape. Also, I don't think I have the strength to wade through the crowd of strawmen that Lindy West created.
/r/MensRights02/03/14 10:42 PM
1

Does any of this help you see where I'm coming from? Not really. It sounds like you're annoyed about something completely different. If you want more varied characters or deeper, more varied portrayals of sexuality in games, fine, I agree. Aside from that, I've no idea what point you're making. My point is that men are sexualised in games and the phrase "male power fantasy" is a dismissive cop-out in order to try and trivialise the issue.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 05:21 PM
1

Alright, tossing around words like "manosphere" already loses you several points. But all that you're doing here is toeing the feminist line and saying "nu-uh, women are sexualised, men aren't". First of all, let's debunk the idea that big muscles aren't sexual objectification (or at least don't cause body image problems for young men); these three links show that not only do young men have concerns about the way they look but actually suffer more concerns than women: *Boys want to look fit to b…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 04:23 PM
1

So? Do you really think the practice of creating incredibly attractive androgynous male characters has died out? Look at Final Fantasy XIII. Look at Star Ocean. Look at Soul Calibur V.
/r/MensRights01/03/14 01:01 PM
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You mean just like you call everyone racist who disagrees with you like feminists call people who don't agree with them misogynists. This summed it up for me. Wanting to help all men rather than focusing on men of specific races is not racism and it's as simple as that. Put it this way; if there was a campaign to reduce the ridiculous sentencing disparity of black men compared to white men, I would be happy to support it. If there was a campaign to reduce the ridiculous sentencing disparity of m…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 01:27 AM
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Well, it's a good thing that no male characters are designed like the ones the author described, right? /s ... Oh look, Japanese games proving the author wrong. I know the comic is written by a male author but how can he not realise how dumb it is to speak on behalf of all men? That would be one thing but it's not hard to find pictures of androgynous male characters like the ones the female character drew in the comic. It's one thing -- although not an excuse -- to be ignorant, it's quite anothe…
/r/MensRights01/03/14 01:10 AM
2

Thanks for those links. I'm particularly interested in that "Professing Feminism" book.
/r/MensRights22/02/14 08:51 PM
1

I think that blog is too confrontational and would not appeal to all to people who are starting to have doubts. There are too many terms that don't provide reassurance and are just patting themselves on the back or bashing feminism. "Starting to wake up". "Red pill". "Female supremacist movement out to destroy men". That last one, in particular, is stupidly over-dramatic. Any blog aimed at new MRAs should offer answers and understanding and not phrases like "captain-save-a-ho". I wouldn't recomm…
/r/MensRights22/02/14 02:44 PM
1

Sex and gender are two different things. By saying that someone is only a "real man" based on their sex, you sound like a TERF; people who transition are not "really male", so you're excluding them based on that.
/r/MensRights22/02/14 02:36 PM
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Not the case. If you identify as being male, you're male. If you're a transman, you're likely to still be subjected to the same injustices as people who were born male (I would say "cisgender" but Tumblr has completely ruined that term). Even if you're a transwoman, you're still likely to be judged as a man who is "just pretending" to be female.
/r/MensRights22/02/14 02:04 PM
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Silly article. Woman here. I like's my men subby! As a man who likes women who are "dommy", I feel the same way.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 04:09 PM
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Take my word for it, dolandoes; when it comes to figures like Sarkeesian and her supporters, logical arguments are doomed to fail. You'd have a better response switching off your PC and then typing out a logical rebuttal. If they're not going to listen, we might as well amuse ourselves with sarcasm.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 03:52 PM
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You know, I might just give this one a listen. I kind of shrugged off the Anita Sarkeesian GDC award thing at first but I've been following the reaction at games industry international and The Males Of Games and it's pretty crazy that criticising Anita has now led people within the industry to informally blackball them from their companies.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 05:29 PM
1

I'm actually a little tired of seeing petitions crop up on this subreddit. They never work, even for more mainstream topics, with many more signatures.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 02:08 PM
10

Nah, rightsbot deserves it. You wouldn't believe the kind of shit he says when he thinks nobody's looking ...
/r/MensRights20/02/14 03:13 AM
2

Good call. I was just about to ask if there's any way we can support Taranto. I recommend everyone do this.
/r/MensRights19/02/14 07:17 PM
3

I think people in this subreddit are far too happy to let certain things slide. It is a double standard that a product like this is on the market while the reverse wouldn't be. It does portray men as being "less" than human in some ways. I don't actually see how this is different from a lot of the offensive posters we see images of in the subreddit except someone is actually making a profit from this.
/r/MensRights18/02/14 02:29 PM
1

Like others said, file a complaint. And keep us informed too. I'm interested in finding out how this pans out.
/r/MensRights18/02/14 01:11 AM
3

Funnily enough, Anita Sarkeesian blamed this on Reddit on Twitter. However, doing a search at the time, there was only one recent thread about Anita -- a Feminist Frequency-esque parody video on Youtube -- and it didn't even have any responses. So I guess Anita is doing her usual bang-up research job then.
/r/MensRights15/02/14 08:12 PM
0

"Dumb" has long been abandoned as a term to refer to a disability (as has "lame"). Thinking that those two terms make me a hypocrite is pure "SJW bullshit". I care about actual discrimination.
/r/MensRights15/02/14 01:05 PM
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You shouldn't be getting downvoted for this. Ableism is a very real issue. Not social justice in the slightest. As you said, it's got nothing to do with "suggesting that a blind man shouldn't fly a plane". It's about ensuring workplaces are accessible for wheelchair users and making sure employers don't discriminate based on disability. ZimeaglaZ, you're a dumbass.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 05:12 PM
3

Does anyone else think that Anita Sarkeesian's "activism" has actually done more to turn people away from the message of inclusivity in video games than convince them that it needs to be fought for?
/r/MensRights11/02/14 10:58 PM
2

France is at odds with Muslims because the French government is cracking down on freedom of religious expression. Seriously, for religious people, France is a place to avoid.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 04:38 PM
2

And this isn't even a Church of England school issue (or any other religion); it's just this one school that's being so incredibly "nanny state" with their rules.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 04:04 PM
0

It's clearly not serious ... but it does also portray rape as something that only happens to women.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 03:53 PM
3

Finally got around to watching this. Such an excellent video. I'd love for more people to see this and I'd be interested in hearing the reactions from students and faculty at Ryerson.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 01:05 AM
2

I read a very good criticism of this comic some time ago (although I can't remember where). Someone pointed out that the feminist who wrote it is accidentally shooting themselves in the foot; by portraying the women as caring about every single group except men, the male character actually looks justified in being annoyed that they aren't including men. It shows that the "feminism is the solution to men's problems too!" mantra is complete nonsense.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 06:07 PM
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Hope they make sure to record this (and any protesting outside).
/r/MensRights06/02/14 07:28 PM
3

So a female MRA wants to talk at a university ... and that makes MRAs look like woman-haters? Do feminists even know what logic is?
/r/MensRights04/02/14 07:52 PM
2

Most people are saying that this isn't a good example of a sentencing disparity, if you read the thread.
/r/MensRights02/02/14 12:25 PM
0

Excellent topic. Think I'll save that picture for future reference. You know, if feminists actually cared about solving injustices half as much as they do blaming other people for their privileges, we'd probably see a lot more positive changes. The thing is, I know that I'm better off in some ways than others but I'm also sensible enough to know that fact doesn't apply to all men, all straight people or all white people. I'm not privileged because of my skin colour, sex or sexuality and I refuse…
/r/MensRights30/01/14 05:58 PM
1

Feminists championed such violent women and got the law changed. You're an anti-feminist who praises the way feminism went to bat for Valarie Solanas?
/r/MensRights28/01/14 06:11 PM
2

It's always made me awestruck that there's such a gap between the way MRAs treat female allies and the way feminists treat male ones. To MRAs, we're thankful of female allies. We appreciate their perspective and the fact that they're going against the "men bad, women good" feminist narrative. They've looked at the facts behind the stories and thought about how situations affect everyone involved, rather than just about how they affect women. We're also happy to have them speak on our behalf beca…
/r/MensRights28/01/14 03:48 PM
1

This was a great talk. I hope you're able to do more of them in future. It's great that you went right for the facts and steered clear of any blame or judgment. Not that certain parties don't need to take responsibility for injustices against men but by focusing on only the facts, you'll help to get across that Men's Rights Activism really is all about helping men and nothing else.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 03:03 PM
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Here you go: http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/community/articles/1077
/r/MensRights28/01/14 02:31 PM
1

Well, I don't suffer with body image problems as much as I used to, so that's the main reason. Apart from that, I tend to use methods other than going to the gym to look how I want (a better, more balanced diet than I used to have, maintaining good hygiene ... common sense stuff).
/r/MensRights27/01/14 04:53 PM
7

This was originally from Jezebel. Ridiculous how popular it became though.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 12:29 AM
10

I'm very pleased about that. That male student has my thanks for petitioning for a worthwhile cause. :)
/r/MensRights27/01/14 12:24 AM
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Just going to say that I've struggled with body image problems thanks to video games and it wouldn't kill feminism to ditch the "male power fantasy" BS argument, nor would it kill this subreddit to take it seriously. I won't go into it any more than that but these links get across some of my own problems: *Boys Want To Look Fit To Be Happy *Body image concerns more men than women, research finds *The Males Of Games 1 *The Males Of Games 2
/r/MensRights26/01/14 08:04 PM
5

Let me tell a little story about Wil Wheaton and a man named Ryan Perez, who he helped get fired. Basically, Ryan Perez used to be a writer for Destructoid, which is a website about video games. One day, on Twitter, Ryan Perez tweeted about an internet personality by the name of Felicia Day. Felicia's main claim to fame is that she appeared in a few episodes of Buffy The Vampire Slayer and stars in a web-based video comedy series called "The Guild"... with co-star Wil Wheaton. Felicia is ridicul…
/r/MensRights22/01/14 12:47 AM
3

Submitted. Hope it helps.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 06:07 PM
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This isn't the usual kind of topic posted here but I wanted more people to see Europa Phoenix's artwork (and I spelled his name wrong in the title). He usually does artwork for Honey Badger Radio -- the podcast with GirlWritesWhat, TyphonBlue and others -- but my favourite work of his is the comic linked to above. I'd like to see more artists in the men's rights community because Europa-Phoenix is the only one I've seen.
/r/MensRights19/01/14 02:38 PM
5

I love seeing these. Wish there were more of them.
/r/MensRights15/01/14 12:05 AM
4

Sorry Typhon but I agree with LemonFrosted. While feminism certainly requires criticism, AVFM isn't the one to do it. I stopped reading back when their imaginatively-titled "Fuck You Judith Grossman" article was posted because that's when it became clear that hatred of feminism was more important than promoting men's rights. Basically, for those of you who don't know, Judith Grossman is a prominent feminist who campaigned for special treatment of women but at that time, her son had suffered a fa…
/r/MensRights14/01/14 11:48 PM
5

I don't get how people can be so accepting of this. Women having to send the first message is fine but you aren't seriously suggesting that treating men like products for the woman to own -- no different from the objects you browse through on Amazon or eBay -- is an acceptable trade-off, are you? That the end justifies the means?
/r/MensRights12/01/14 01:39 AM
2

Well, there's the Tender Years Doctrine, which was a piece of legislation that is no longer officially followed but its effects are still being felt today. The Tender Years Doctrine was the piece of legislation that specified that in divorce proceedings, sole custody should go to the mother. It's partly because of this doctrine that only 17% of men gain sole custody of their children in divorce proceedings. There's also the Duluth model of domestic violence, which is a philosophy (I guess?) that…
/r/MensRights12/01/14 12:44 AM
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That's the line that is heard every time someone objects to feminism but this isn't just about feminists you see on the news. There are actual pieces of legislation that damaged the rights of men in favour of women (look up "The Duluth Model" or "The Tender Years Doctrine" on Wikipedia). Plus, men's rights talks have been protested by feminists who hurled abusive language at visitors, pulled fire alarms and flicked the lights on and off during talks and barred people from entering the building. …
/r/MensRights09/01/14 11:21 PM
4

I'm all for religious freedom but, for three reasons, I can't accept that explanation: Firstly, it goes beyond religion. Circumcision is a procedure performed on non-Jewish boys around the world, trivialised and justified behind the mask of "tradition". Secondly, it's genital mutilation. There's no getting around it. Thirdly, circumcision was a form of oppressing Jewish people. It marked them as Jewish and made sure they couldn't hide that part of themselves. In this day and age, don't you think…
/r/MensRights06/01/14 09:18 PM
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It doesn't matter how happy you personally are with your circumcision. This is about baby boys not having the right for their own bodies to remain unmodified and unmutilated. If you feel that strongly about it -- if you truly feel that "[we] are denying what some men find to be a very powerful indicator of their masculinity" -- you could've chosen circumcision in your adult life. GirlWritesWhat did a good video about this, if you have ten minutes to spare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxhJXw0I…
/r/MensRights05/01/14 09:35 PM
2

I thought the same thing. I figured enough places like to talk about how NAFALT without us joining in. The point is that the feminist movement has managed to exert enough influence to alter legislation that has hurt men in different ways. That's what made the OP cringe. I don't see what's complicated or controversial about that.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 12:15 AM
3

Isn't it both?
/r/MensRights16/11/13 12:14 AM
1

Yes, why can't we just let the little things slide!? If we sat around complaining about all the hired rapes in the world, we'd get nothing done! /s We're not talking about negative character portrayals in a television show here, or being offended by insensitive jokes. We're talking about resounding praise for a person who paid another to rape someone. How can you defend that?
/r/MensRights12/11/13 05:50 PM
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I've seen this several times and never liked it. It seems to be another twist on the tired old, "want equal rights for men? Support feminism!" statement that we hear from feminists. Not only that but I've noticed that feminism tends to focus on gender roles a lot more than the MRM; breaking down stereotypical gender roles is important but boys being considered "unmasculine" digs far deeper than wanting to play with an E-Z Bake oven. Lack of support for male victims of rape and domestic violence,…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 11:54 PM
5

I'm worried that she went through official channels rather than talked to me. I don't want this to affect me in some way down the line.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 09:11 PM
1

I actually asked them in person if they wanted to go to the cinema but other than that, I take your point.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 06:50 PM
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