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DiscussionPreparationWorried33/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 02:44 AM
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That sucks. If you can afford it I’d recommend traveling. Even if it’s just to another city in your country it could lead to you having a much better dating experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:30 AM
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Are you short?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 07:28 PM
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Depends on what kind of “toned” they want and what their starting point is. I’ll put some examples: I never said anything about “excessive” amounts of muscle. What does that even mean? Unless you’re on steroids. I’m talking about muscles period if you’re moving more and burning more calories you’ll lose fat. Whether or not muscle takes its place depends on what kind of exercises you’re doing. You won’t have as much muscle definition if you’re doing aerobic exercises and you won’t see much muscle…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:54 PM
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I’m guessing he means because it won’t get you swole and shredded. But that’s not everyone’s fitness goal. Some people just want to lose a few pounds and have more stamina. Zumba can do that for you just as effectively as weightlifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:13 PM
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It is if you’re just trying to slim down or remain slim. Both weight lifting and Zumba are efficient ways to cut fat. Given you’re actually putting in a good effort and not just messing around. With weightlifting though you’ll replace the fat with more refined musculature. Some women don’t want that. The ones who do will lift weights. If men bother them that much they’d do it in a woman only gym. For women that don’t want that though they’d still choose to do Zumba and step even if men were out …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 06:12 PM
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Going to a paid gym in general would filter for people that have more disposable income. If you’re dealing with lower class women then just join in the next time your gym has a Zumba, yoga or step class. If your gym offers those? It’s effectively the same thing but the women there are on the lower earning end of the middle class spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:58 PM
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most men truly don't care abou that. Society has an ideal about an attractive woman and most men don't chase that ideal, This isn’t completely accurate. They “don’t care” in the sense that they’d still fuck a woman that doesn’t live up to the ideal. However a woman that does will get treated significantly better. if you have small breast it's fine; if you have no ass it's fine, if you are fat it's fine ,if your lips aren't a certain thickness it's fine , if you don't have a hourglass shape it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:55 PM
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That’s very true. Cardio equipment is typically on a different floor in most gyms. Especially the big franchise ones. I’ll see women lifting weights sometimes too but it’s almost always lower body weighted workouts.More often than not they take the weights away to go work their legs and glutes in a different part of the gym too vs staying in the weightlifting area where are the guys are. Unless they need to use a smith machine for squats or something. Funny enough going to SoulCycle, Zumba, Pila…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:08 PM
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Fair enough. You could still get a decent bit of information from him though. If you knew him both before and after and watched the changed from an unbiased perspective you could observe and test out the changes. Even the ones the man himself isn’t aware of to see what is contributing to his success. You raised an excellent counter point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:44 PM
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I agree there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:42 PM
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And if he had immutable characteristics that he thought caused him failure then found a workaround? Like highlighting and maximizing other attractive features that enabled him to still see more success?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:42 PM
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A specific man? Definitely not. Societal beauty standards are though. If you don’t do those things you will be treated differently. The better you meet your societies beauty standards the better your life is in many aspects. Your life improves financially, socially, romantically etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:32 PM
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In regards to sex yes.They do admit this. They just more so frame it as men having low standards for who they fuck vs women having an easy time meeting beauty standards. Overall though they do not. Men are more allowed to age and rest on their laurels of being hot 30 years ago. While women are more judged and shamed for aging. The fixation of hitting the wall isn’t as insane for men as it is for women and women don’t get to coast off of past hotness. Same when it comes to enjoying the perks of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:31 PM
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Following this logic though the man who should actually be listened to is one who was once sexually unsuccessful but then now is sexually successful. He’s been on both sides of the fence and can accurately analyze what changed in his life to get women interested and the order of importance of those changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:26 PM
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Women work out outside the home too. If you go to Zumba classes, Pilates studios, Barre Studio, pole fitness studios etc there’s always wall to wall women in there. You get a real good workout from the shit too. The end result will just be different. From the aforementioned you’ll get fit, in a trim and lithe manner. From traditional gyms depending on what you’re doing you’ll get more swole and cut. Even in traditional gyms too if you go on days where they have Zumba or cycling classes you’ll se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:19 PM
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I don't think so Tim. The media is far from being on our side on this. Had Aladdin been real, Jamsin would have been on Jafar's knob and not even talked to Alladin and labeled him as creepy. Nope Jafar would’ve been labeled the creep because he was old and ugly. Aladdin would’ve probably still bagged Jasmine because he’s the hot, interesting extroverted boy. They’d probably have eloped because he’d be too broke for her dad to approve of a formal marriage. Spiderman peter parker would have been t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:31 PM
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You’re exactly right which is why women’s next move should be the global domination of men. Either overtly or subversively.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:26 AM
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More likely =\= exclusively. There are men that hate sex workers too. Op is curious as to why men specifically hate sex workers because they’re operating under the assumption that the origin of the hatred varies per gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:19 AM
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I don’t have this problem. Seems other men do so you should bring it up. They’d be more sympathetic towards listening if it’s coming from a fellow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:24 PM
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It’s very doable if men choose to join together. It’s more feasible for men to align their interests collectively than to expect women to steer away from men who they’re attracted to. You’ll break more ground focusing within your group than outside of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:22 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:21 PM
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Men choose who they give sperm to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:21 PM
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They don’t have a sixth sense. They just go based on culturally normative standards of nervousness. If you’re exhibiting any of those they’ll assume you’re not confident. If you don’t exhibit those and you’re quiet they’ll assume you’re disinterested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:20 PM
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Exactly. Yeah women are the ones who decide to abort or not but they don’t have the power to make that decision without a man giving them sperm. With the exception being IVF/Sperm banks. If you can afford that though then you most likely aren’t going to have the issue of an average poor single parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:18 PM
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This needs to be a collective thing for it to work. Not just an individual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:17 PM
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Just truth. No stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:16 PM
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I’d expect men to be more cautious but for both to be cautious. If you want to prevent shootings it’s effective to empty the gun in addition to teaching people how to survive shootings. However emptying the gun is the more efficient of the two options. Women can only get pregnant 1-2 times a year and only for a brief window of their overall life. Men can impregnate hundreds of women a year and they can do so damn near until they’re in the grave. Men are clearly the bigger reproductive risk and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:16 PM
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So can men. Choose the women you give your seed to wisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:13 PM
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I don’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:13 PM
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No if men become genuinely ok with celibacy and being single. Instead of just taking any women they can get. Only accept women who have what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 09:32 AM
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You said men must give up power to date up. If men collectively agreed to stop doing this and waited women out they could bring the ball more in their court.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:23 AM
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It’s pissing Redditors off because it’s more complex than that. Social influences play a role just as parents do. Humans are social animals with a desire to be accepted. Depending on how strong their convictions are they can and will stray from the morals their parents instill in them if it means more social interaction/capital. They’ll also want bro rebel if they feel their parents were too heavy handed in their value installation. Like the pastors daughter who becomes promiscuous despite her d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:12 AM
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It’s only unjust if there is too much of a power imbalance and you’re not ok with the person leaving and you actively try to force coerce them into staying. If you’re a decent looking guy you could date in some of the Scandinavian countries and not have the same issues with your income being judged as you’d face in the US, Canada or UK. If you can afford at least your basic necessities you can find women there who won’t judge as much if you don’t have a car and can’t afford designer goods. You d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:09 AM
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It wouldn’t because men would be collectively waiting on their own terms. Instead of waiting for any woman who you like the look of that will have you, you’ll be waiting for women to treat you right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:05 AM
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Have you not heard of the trend going around? “Final boss of the friendzone”. Where a woman wants a man almost exactly like her male friend but not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:03 AM
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What is bad faith about his statements? If you’re tying this to dating then as unsavory as it sounds the person with the desire for the most power in the relationship wants to be the lord and master of that domain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:02 AM
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They don’t unless you’re quiet and shy. If you’re not the shy type they’ll assume you’re a stoic or that you don’t like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:01 AM
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A lot of women do want that personality type. Some prefer introverted men. The only “constants” in female attraction are attractive face, not short, and confident. Everything else varies depending on the type of woman. You can be confident and quiet or you can be confident and loud. You can also be an unconfident man and do well if you’re very physically attractive and tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:00 AM
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According to PPD men they’re not. PPD men claim women are insufferable in several non-criminal manners. Criminal ones as well but they’re allegedly better at evading police attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:51 AM
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It may not be perpetually difficult though. Dating would turn into a waiting game. Whoever is the more patient party would then set the new terms for the new dating landscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:50 AM
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Yes. If you see a woman isn’t treating you right, cut it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:45 AM
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No one is saying you’re to blame for her bad behavior. That’s all her but unless those women have raped you or held you hostage somehow you don’t have to date horrible women. You can literally choose to not date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:45 AM
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If you’re not bald, try East or south East Asia you’d do better over there. If you are bald hit the gym and/or get a hair transplant then head to Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:44 AM
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It’s not a growing trend. You’re just dating women who don’t like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:42 AM
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It’s the experience for men who only look at two to 3 things when vetting. 1) The woman is attractive by their standards. 2) She won’t immediately ruin his life. 3)She is willing to have consistent sex with him. How many men use the woman’s thoughtfulness, caring and compassion towards him as a determining factor in deciding who to date? Not many. Especially if they don’t find the woman attractive. They don’t do it because they’re uncomfortable with having long dry spells and they’d rather have …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:42 AM
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Just as women are told to choose better. The same applies to men. I’ve never had this issue with women but at the same time. I don’t date women just based off looks alone and a scarcity mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:38 AM
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Manipulators are the ones that pick their victims not the other way around. They will do subtle things in the beginning to specifically test if a woman is naive enough to be sucked into their game or not. If she’s not but they like a challenge they’ll pray pretend until they don’t have the energy to maintain the mask or they feel she’s sufficiently emotionally invested enough to drop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:37 AM
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Every woman has a father bethechange
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:35 AM
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So then choose the women you sleep with wisely and be a present dad
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:34 AM
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They don’t think they can baby trap Chad. Most women have babies by regular every day dudes. They just think they’re better off as a single mother vs staying with a man they don’t like who adds more work to their load.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:33 AM
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They don’t all get ignored. They have sex too and produce children and many of them are lazy fathers. They may have liked the idea of fatherhood until they realized modern fatherhood entails more than just going to work and then coming home to discipline if their kids mom tells them too. So then they get dumped, when the mother of their children realizes she’d have the same or less work doing things herself vs staying with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:32 AM
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Why didn’t he protect his seed? Why did he have sex with her if he didn’t view her as a potential mother of his child? As a man I’d never sleep with a woman, especially raw who I wasn’t prepared to co-parent with. Thankfully I’ve only had one false pregnancy scare but you have to know that any woman under 50 that you sleep with their is a chance that you can knock her up and there’s a chance she may choose to keep it. Knowing that choose wisely and be careful what you do with your sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:28 AM
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Men(not all) have always been this way. They just used to get married more so there was a woman there as a buffer to deal with the worst of their behavior and take over for the man’s mother and finish the job of raising him. Now men are more marriage averse and women aren’t as willing to play mommy 2.0. So now men who used to have wives to micromanage them to prevent them from being lazy are in society unchecked. Men who used to reserve their anger and violence for their families and whose behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:28 AM
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This is parental alienation and if you have proof it’s happening the courts will rule more in your favor. Unless you’re an unfit parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:25 AM
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Why can’t they ask the person who made the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:24 AM
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It’s because to a lot of women money=security and freedom. All the necessities, privileges and luxuries women(and men too tbh) desire cost money. You want to eat good food? You need money. You want to travel? You need money. You want to live in a nice safe neighborhood? You need money. So when a woman encounters a guy that makes little to no money she knows she probably won’t be able to do these things with him to the frequency she’d like. Even if she believes in 50/50 finances. You shouldn’t fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:15 AM
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It definitely didn’t. Those women were always there. They just used to be embarrassed about it and you’d find them on fetlife and other kink specific dating sites. Now they have the confidence to ask about it on vanilla dating sites too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:10 AM
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It didn’t. At most it gave women who were already into bdsm the confidence to be more open about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:51 PM
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It’d be a lot better. They’d be more kind, sweet, calm and collected.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:45 PM
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Every man on planet earth should strive to be a handsome simp. It would make the world a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:04 AM
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I know this message is late I’ve been off Reddit for a while but you’re absolutely spot on. They just want to complain. As you said women have been brutally honest since time immemorial. Men just don’t care unless it comes out of a man’s mouth and they shame women who are openly honest about what they want, while popularizing lies from men and women. They curated the very lies they now decry through their misplaced outrage and support. I agree as well. I wish the discussion would turn more to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:56 PM
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You’re an exception then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:08 PM
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No he was skinny fat. Pudgy belly, flabby arms and skinny legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:01 PM
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They’re telling you it’s creepy because of how you look and/or because of the places you choose. Halo effect is real there’s certain things attractive males and women can get away that average and unattractive males and women can’t get away with. It won’t be viewed the same. So you have to adjust for the optics. If you don’t have the kind of face and vibe that would garner you the benefit of the doubt cold approaching especially outside of clubs/bars/singles mixers etc. Aren’t going to yield the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:50 PM
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It’s an accurate statement to say. Males first and upmost priority is sex. With the exception of asexual males, sex is all males have on the brain. Some are more extreme with it than others and you’ll see this in the lengths they go to in pursuit of sex. They’re sex driven and sex obsessed. Emotional connections are a low level priority and gay males are an example of this. When males are just left to their own devices sex takes the forefront and emotional connections take a back burner. Some ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:47 PM
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It shouldn’t yet it does and it has yet to be divorced from that context on a larger scale. The issue with helicopter parents isn’t that they’re too sympathetic, it’s that they’re too indulgent. You can be sympathetic to you child and guide them without overly indulging them. There’s a middle ground between being unsympathetic and hands off and sympathetic and overly indulgent. You can be sympathetic and guide someone while keeping it reigned in. You still keep avoiding the context of why you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:43 PM
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Nice and kind are two different things. Kindness, compatibility and compassion fosters an emotional connection. I’m thinking of emotional attraction not comfort. If I meant comfort I would’ve said that. They are not linked in women. Hate fucking is something AFABs do as well. I would know sometimes you just want to peg a guy and choke him without all the mushy stuff. Not to mention even women that are into vanilla sex have men they’re sexually attracted to but they’d rather die than publicly cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:40 PM
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It’s on you to read the link I provided about the prevalence of dark triad traits among convicted rapists. Here’s some more for you: https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsarp00.pdf Rape is severely underreported. https://jimhopper.com/topics/sexual-assault-and-the-brain/repeat-rape-by-college-men/ It’s 1.5% https://psychcentral.com/disorders/cluster-b-personality-disorders I’m saying they’re aggressive and coercive. If I’m bigger, stronger and don’t take no for an answer I’m more likely to illic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:38 PM
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It’s not harmful to men. The advice they give works if the woman is already sexually attracted to you. It will foster the emotional connection. Men just don’t ask what they want to know. They ask how to get women to like them, they’re not blunt and say they just want to know how to get women to have sex with them because of the optics. They’ll ask other men that way, but not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 07:08 PM
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I 100% agree with you. These days especially I’ve noticed a lot of things men are angry at women for are things men have always done to women. Yet it makes them irate when it’s done to them. They also claim no one cares about mens mental health yet they’re not as aggressive and insistent about getting other men to care about and coddle them as they are when it comes to women. Consciously or subconsciously they expect and desires women to be a self-sacrificing emotional refuge and support system …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 07:06 PM
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Re-read the comment I wrote. Both are equally essential for a relationship to last. If sexual attraction is there and emotional attraction is not you can not sustain a romantic relationship. Same if emotional attraction is there but sexual attraction is not. Both are needed or a romantic relationship is unsustainable. You won’t be emotionally attracted to someone you sexually desire. The two are not inherently linked. Ever heard of hate fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 07:03 PM
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Do people not know how often rape goes underreported? Do people not know how few men are dark triad? The two groups over lap. A man who is sociopathic, psychopathic, narcissistic, has apd etc is a rarity when compared to the male population at large but they’re also more likely to be rapists. http://www.antoniocasella.eu/archipsy/Davison_Janca_2012.pdf Those who are aggressively insistent when approaching is still relevant. In the speed dating scenario: asshole men won’t take no for an answer wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 07:02 PM
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You never explained why you think that. Being unsympathetic does have negative connotations. It’s just that depending on what it is, it may or may not be viewed as justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:59 PM
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It’s not normal but it’s common and that’s the “average” person you’ll come across especially in countries like America. Which is why I don’t understand why he excluded them but then also complained incessantly that he couldn’t find anyone after me and about how long it took him to even find me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:57 PM
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I agree. More men should be happy being single, celibate and enjoying their hobbies and other things in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:55 PM
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They’re not healthy but they’re the average in many western countries where there’s large populations of overweight people. Fit, cute, young women are in small supply. Even shorter supply if you start adding in requirements for virginity, religious or political beliefs etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:54 PM
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No they don’t. They accept the man if they click. Men just don’t genuinely like them and they show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:53 PM
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They know they’re average yet claim they’re below average?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:04 PM
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Average implies commonality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:04 PM
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By a minority of men. The majority of men aren’t chasing women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:03 PM
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This is so true. Had an ex that was an incel before met me and he refuses to date overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:03 PM
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It’s not. Emotional and sexual attraction are equally important in maintaining an ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP. Without emotional attraction you just have short lived lust not a romantic relationship. Without sexual attraction you just have a friendship not a romantic relationship. Both are equally important, men just only care about one and as such deem it as the most important when it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:00 PM
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Raping, boundary crossing, being more coercive, being on the hunt more etc. If you take two men of equal attractiveness and one asks out maybe 100 women a year and he takes the first no for an answer and the second asks out 1000 a year and doesn’t take no for an answer. Who will have more sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:58 PM
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Why do you think that? They’re just not taking responsibility for mens romantic success. Same as men not taking responsibility for womens. Unless you’re arguing being unsympathetic is a positive trait I’d beg to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:57 PM
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You realize sexual attraction is not the only type of attraction. As I said, men just don’t value anything but sexually attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:38 PM
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So why phrase it negatively as women not having sympathetic for them when it’s really that they don’t feel responsible for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:29 PM
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Who would’ve thought sexually aggressive rapists would reproduce more than sexually passive men who don’t force themselves on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:27 PM
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They are attracted to it. Which is why they select for a mix of both traits. Men just simply don’t care about any attraction besides sexual. Then also turn around and complain when people write men off as sex obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:24 PM
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Why should women help men be sexually and romantically successful when men don’t help them? Each sex is looking out for their own. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:20 PM
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No it’s used to describe men that call themselves nice, good men when they’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:19 PM
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If this were true they’d stay single and celibate happily instead of complaining about standards even for non-marital relationships, sex and unequal sex distribution. What you’ve said is akin to employers complaining about salary requests for workers that they feel are “too much”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:49 AM
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It’s the same thing men do to women they only difference is the reasons they’re being objectified. So I’m not sure why it’s something to be resentful over? Men and women are who they are. Some may be lucky enough to get with an exceptional person, others won’t but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:04 AM
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It also gives you full control over the money and a marketable skill set you can take to another job. If you’re married and your husband is financially abusing you, if you leave and get alimony & assets or he leaves you. You’re going to take a lifestyle hit in comparison to when you were married and you won’t have any recent work experience to leverage into a job to pull yourself up unless someone takes a chance on you. If you’re treated poorly at a job and quit or get fired. You have money that…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:10 AM
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They don’t hate him. He just has major incompatibilities that were hard to get around. If he dropped the liberal aspects he’d be a hit with conservative women. If he dropped the conservative aspects like wanting a sahm, he’d do well with liberal women. He’s a mix of both and the balance is unfortunately enough to turn off both groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:48 PM
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Is he looking for non-western Asian women only? Otherwise it’s going to be a hard sell
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:46 PM
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No one dreams of the labor it’s the freedom and protection that having your own money provides. You set your own budget and the risk of financial abuse are lower. Having your own money allows a certain level of independence that you don’t get when receiving an allowance from a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:45 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:12 AM
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Nah. If they’re equal in looks short term they fare the same because they’re both physically/sexually attractive. Long term the charismatic, extroverted and fun guy fares better because he’s not draining to anyone but introverts and he’s not nearly as draining and demoralizing to be around as a dark triad sexist. Being around someone who hates you takes years off your life. Being around a fun, bubbly person who likes you can refresh you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:12 AM
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Nope an average extroverted, fun and charismatic man fares better than an average sexist man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:12 AM
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I’m not saying anything about incarcerating these people. Just let them choose what suits them best. If it was to be fruitful and multiply birth control and condoms would be a lot less popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:23 AM
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Not to be morbid but that’s entirely dependent on if they start killing other people faster than they kill themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:21 AM
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If they’re hot and pick the right type of women. Not if they’re average or ugly. It’s just like how with men the hotter a woman is the longer they’ll tolerate her crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:16 AM
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It may irritate you but for some men it is true. They’re perfectly decent looking and off pictures alone they’d do well and get matches until they open their mouth and are some degree of socially inept. If you’re not hot enough for the halo effect to save you short of severe autism then personality can make or break you. It can be the difference between you closing the deal with a woman you’re getting on well with or giving her the “ick” and then getting ghosted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:15 AM
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The core of men and women isn’t family. A lot of people are very miserable in family dynamics and it shows in them becoming abusive mothers and fathers. Modernism has removed the pressure and necessity for people going into these roles. So now it’s mostly people that really want a family that pursue it. Or if they want a family but not in the traditional sense they’re free to pursue that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:11 AM
1

Please quote exactly where i said all of this. Or screenshots and post the discussion. Since it’s “literally what I’m doing in all my posts” Thanks in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:09 AM
1

Men don’t like women regardless of how they act.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:08 AM
1

A lot of them don’t. Some are honest about it. Some try to say that’s not true but their actions tell the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:08 AM
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Good for you. It’d be great if more people were like that but they are who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:07 AM
1

Female problems become the worlds problems because woman all over the world care about each other’s problems to some degree. Usually if the problems overlap. If it’s culture specific they stop caring about each other’s problems(macro scale). Men don’t have that same level of solidarity with each other. At least not enough to make large scale social movements that go worldwide. Anyway regardless of who you’re talking about the point still stands. Just cut them off if your fwb is getting troubleso…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:06 AM
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They’re not. They’re happily(or unhappily) use those women as human flashlights but they don’t give them any more grace and acceptance than women do men at the bottom of the totem pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:44 AM
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No one wants to work 50+ hours a week. It’s why everyone wants to have cushy WFH jobs with flex schedules and lots of PTO. People only work that much if they have to because they have bills to pay and they can’t afford to work less. As long as men and women have competing desires there will be no happy medium. There’ll always be a constant push and pull on the macro scale with each sex pissing each other off. On the micro scale though some people will find compatible partners and have happy sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:43 AM
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I’ve had that happen to me with both male and female fwb. If it’s that troublesome just cut them off and replace them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:00 AM
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Yeah it is. As long as you’re not doing it to their face who cares. Just stay out of the legal territory of harassment, get it out of your system and move on. Most of the time the extent of the “villainizing” is then crying and talking shit to their friends until they get over that emotional hump.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:00 AM
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If the women are upset about it, it means they’re not getting what they want. So it’s in their best interest to end things and move on. Them making a villain out of the guy is the same as a guy making a villain out of his ex after a breakup. Ragging on the source of your emotional hurt whether deserved or not is cathartic for many peoples. It’s part of how they grieve and move on. No big deal. Just charge it to the game and find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:56 AM
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It doesn’t matter if they’re hot and visible and available if they’re not also entertaining and exciting in mens eyes. Which is what hot extroverted women have over hot introverted women. Same if they’re both average looking or ugly. Men have no problem chasing and pursuing women that seem closed off. It’s a matter of whether or not he feels their will be excitement and passion once he breaks down her walls. They view extroverted women that way, but not introverted women. Plus also as op said. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:33 AM
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Unless you mean complete return to puritanical trad con values feminist principles will always be here. It’s just the degree that will vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:29 AM
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I don’t think I’m an expert there’s still a lot to learn and observe. My point is the most pursued women are that way for a reason. There are exceptions to everything and we can explore that nuance if you’d like but at the end of the day it’s clear who falls where in mens hierarchy of attraction based on the desires they express.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:17 AM
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See mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:11 AM
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It’s the truth. They’re mad at honest women now. Can’t see it getting better if more women did it unless there was a complete and total social overhaul to make that level of honesty the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:09 AM
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I don't have such ridiculous standards. Unless you date for personality only and are not attracted to anything physical you certainly do have shallow standards. If you have shallow, ridiculous standards you deserve to be shamed for it. I disagree. If someone has their standards they should be free to have and express them without shame. It’s mutually beneficial that way those who don’t fit know to not waste their time. Secondly, you suggest that the reason women are so blatantly dishonest is bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:08 AM
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You picked a poor example. All you’ve demonstrated is that you do not like nuance. All that is needed to classify something as a dog is it’s membership to canine familiaris or canine lupus familiaris. All else is irrelevant. Ones dog may have been born disabled or been in accident so they no longer have 4 legs. It’s still a dog. The average penis size in the US is ~5 inches. Does that mean men outside of that(either smaller or larger) shouldn’t comment their perspective? When and where did I lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:01 AM
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What exactly am I twisting. You keep making that allegation yet have yet to back it up. I’m sure you make room for cultural differences when they validate you. If you’re “skeptical” of responses that don’t however based on statistics for your culture. . . We’re looking for responses to questions that actually match reality. This is something specific that you’re looking for. Not just general responses of people staying on topic and speaking freely. You’re looking for responses that validate your…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:57 AM
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Sometimes I am a man and I go out into the world as one. Other times I’m not. My view is based on talking to men globally and being a fly on the wall in male spaces and seeing how many feel about women when they think they’re free to express their views judgment free.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:47 AM
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Nope just looking at it objectively. You literally said you’re looking for a specific type of response. The stats may reflect reality in your culture or a similar culture. You forget that sometimes people participate in these discussions come from cultural backgrounds where things are different and they will answer honestly based on the reality of things where they are, just as you pose the question based on the reality of things where you are. Who are you to say your reality is the objective tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:46 AM
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No twisting needed to be done. You said what you said and confirmed what the other poster was saying. If you’re going into a forum and placing stipulations on the type of responses you want to receive beyond them being on topic then you’re consciously or subconsciously looking for them to appease some view/opinion that you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:34 AM
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They get flack for being honest because you’ll see several comments along the lines of “Body positivity but not when it comes to men right?” “Imagine if a men said this?“ “Yet we’re supposed to care about womens feelings?” etc Little about the shallowness of the standards just the fact that she expressed them and whether or not men feel she “deserves” to have such standards. Men prefer the elephant to be unaddressed. If you take 2 women who both only date men 6ft+ but one says it openly and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:31 AM
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They’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:27 AM
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I feel like i can confidently say that generally speaking men on PPD are not looking to be “appeased.” We’re looking for responses to questions that actually match reality. So they are looking to be appeased because they want the responses to fit what they consider to be a match of their perceived version of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:27 AM
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No mens greatest fear is being devalued and viewed as worthless beyond some utility they serve. They don’t want to be used and unappreciated. They talk about it all the time. Men treat women that way via sex and women treat men that way via money and/or labor(physical or emotional) and men hateeeee it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:23 AM
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And even if it was only 1% of men that women find attractive, so what? Men do not find all women equally attractive and even if they date/sleep with those women they don’t treat them the same as women that are their ideal type. So why is it a big deal if women do the same? If you want honesty and that’s honestly how they feel then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:21 AM
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Even if it was in the majority of women’s nature to do so, men would hate it. There’s some women now who are brutally honest and they get a lot of flack from men for being so open and unashamed about their desires. I agree though in a hypothetical world people should be able to be that honest and have it be beneficial. In the current world though that level of honesty makes people very angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:19 AM
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Nope. Men would call it bullying and threaten them. There are already women who are brutally honest. Look in the comments of women who post that stuff on social media now. Men are not happy to hear it. It makes them feel angry and hurt. Especially if her post gets a lot of likes and the men are outside of the listed preference. In real life some men will yell at you/insult you at best to argue or demean your out of your preferences or they will try to hurt you at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:17 AM
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No. Are you? My avi is gender neutral. They have a beard but they also have pink leggings and flats(:
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:13 AM
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No. I think your misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm saying it doesnt matter what the specifics of the cultures moral lense is but in this context I'm only talking about industrialized western cultures . I’m not misunderstanding I keep asking for more detailed specifics but haven’t gotten them yet. Even in western culture there’s variety depending on what country you’re talking about. Canada and the USA moral values could be religious puritan ones or liberal secular ones. Europe is similar exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:15 PM
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There are plenty. Men just take them for granted if she’s not his physical type. Then he circles back around if he can’t find another one that looks how he likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:03 PM
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Conventional morality? Meaning what? What moral beliefs do “good men” babe what attributes? Behavior? Etc. Morality varies by culture. Which is why I asked for an expansion. And the fact obviously being a good person is not sufficient enough to get a relationship as a male therefore there will always be a subset of men who are good people but simply lack other traits that would make them desirable to women as a whole. She can use OLD for unlimited choice or just explore friend groups she is in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:00 PM
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They do. It’s the Madonna whore complex. They settle for the safe reliable woman who they feel can’t do better than them and who they think will nurture him into old age and nurture his children if he wants them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:51 PM
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Not unless their wives are happy with them. If their wives are happy with them be very specific about the questions you ask. Things like “What made you attracted to your wife” “When did you know she was the one” “How did you pursue her” etc. Generally speaking though, if marriage is your goal it makes the most sense to ask happily married women who are similar to you how they got that way as they will have the most useful advice. Men will tell you things that are beneficial to themselves, not ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:14 PM
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I’m not following?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:07 PM
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It is if he goes to a country where the men look like him and he flexes the fact that he’s a westerner. The problem is unsolvable so why not accept it. If genuine passionate desire is what you want from women it will never happen unless you can attract a subset of women based on just your charm and/or looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:07 PM
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He’s 5’5
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:05 PM
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5’5
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:05 PM
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It’s not weird at all men are men. Even before I got into pegging I dated men others would consider short. They just got even shorter once I started getting into pegging. So from 5’7-5’9 down to 5’1 to 5’6. Idk if I’d fit the stereotypes in your head at least not all the time anyway as most men have been shocked and surprised that “someone like me” is into pegging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:04 PM
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There are shy and introverted women who put effort into looking attractive. They’re not all wearing clothes that hide their form. The ones who do are going to be less attractive. And regardless men still don’t prefer them as they find them boring in comparison to the extroverted girl. Extroverted girls aren’t the only women who can be fun or bubbly. But the extroverted girl will probably be better at showing off her personality and seeming approachable, so that gives her a headstart over women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:01 PM
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I mean they wont be the literal cream of the crop but still good human beings with valuable inner worlds. What are you using to determine whether or not someone is a good man. Please expand? See I dont get this, one of the number one strawman women point too when ridiculing men is that they are out or shape / living with "mommy" ect ect if it isint something more subjective like "bad personality " I cant even. Begin to imagine where a male in that situation would find sex. Though I didn't exclud…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:58 PM
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Nope. Men just don’t like them. They settle for them when they want to have a family because they think they’re a safe bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:53 PM
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Please quote exactly where I said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:52 PM
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They’re not.. Christian mingle has the highest % of women. 58.6% of its users are women compared to 43.3% for tinder okcupid has 48% women and match 44%. CMB has 57% Plus the ones I listed don’t have the stigma of being a “hookup app” which consequently means they don’t have the consequences of that connotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:49 PM
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Yep!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:47 PM
2

SPF in makeup doesn’t do much. You need actual spf. If you’re not very dark skinned naturally it’s best to invest in a quality sunscreen spf 50 or above to put on as a base under your makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:19 AM
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I enjoy it, because I can enjoy the fun aspects of sex without having to worry about birth control or the weirdness from either side around me being the one penetrated. It’s nice to see how into it my bottoms get as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:11 AM
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If we could afford it I’d hire a maid. If not I’d split it with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:04 AM
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Even if hypergamy didn’t exist his female equal still wouldn’t be an option as long as she could provide for herself. Men aren’t just competing with other men. They’re competing with women’s self-provided comfort. So even if you’re a woman’s only option if you present as someone that would lower her quality of life with no perks to soften the blow. She’ll still pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:03 AM
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Probably not, unless he chooses to get out the basement and look overseas. However he’d be at peace with his situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:59 AM
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With good men is a stretch same with the relationship part. He’d be able find sex but then the trade off would be that it would be unsatisfactory and there’d probably be less of a craving for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:58 AM
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I’m dating one at the moment. I like short guys, they’re easier to peg since they’re closer to my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:56 AM
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It’s not gaslighting. How do you think ugly rich men pull significantly younger/more attractive women to sleep with them? They’re running the sugar baby game or at the very least using that as a carrot and stick to get sex. The problem is that dynamic doesn’t come with genuine desire and arousal which is what men want. However if you just want sex and don’t care about how the women you’re having it with feels towards you and views you money does help. However the uglier you are the more money yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:53 AM
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Like they hype up their sexual skills and make it seem like they’ll give you the most orgasmic mind blowing sex of your life. Yet they don’t deliver on the claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:49 AM
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Shy plain janes are visible as well. They’re just not as enticing because men generally find them boring and prudish.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:47 AM
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⁠First off, hot people have a leg up on plain looking people across the board. Hot Extroverted Girl vs Hot Shy Girl or Plain Extroverted Girl vs Plain Shy Girl would be better comparisons. The result is still the same regardless the reason I used that comparison though is because when you take their base physical characteristics into account. There’s not much difference. The “hot” girl just wears more revealing or form fitting clothing and puts more effort and time into makeup and hair styling. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:45 AM
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Hot party girls are who men want. That’s the point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:41 AM
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Given the extreme population mismatch on dating apps I kind of don't believe you. You can't say every regular plain jane is on them when every app is like 80% men. You realize different dating apps have different gender rations right? If you relegate yourself to tinder you’ll have a very different experience vs if you include match, okcupid, coffee meets bagel and Christian mingle if you’re cool dating a theist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:40 AM
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Man stop it, if they’re on dating apps they have no need to go out and present themselves to be approached or will be way less open to group or activity approaches. You stop it. Them being on dating apps doesn’t negate them having to go out to attract men as well. It’s easier to find a quality match if you don’t relegate yourself to one source. These women also aren’t the best flirts and certain things translate better in person than over text. If a man matches w/two women online. One a shy intr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:38 AM
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Some of the introverted girls exist and are passionate, horny, looking for genuine emotional connection, etc - but they have the same issues as the beta guys doing the same, they simply don't meet the guys in any circumstances for things to go somewhere. They do meet the men in these circumstances. They just don’t appeal to men because they’re more quiet and reserved at the outset. If you’re interested in these types of women though there are plenty of opportunities to meet and interact with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:35 AM
1

You can listen to EDM at home if that’s all you. The point of going to EDM parties or raves is for the vibes and to interact with others, get compliments oh your outfit, maybe meet you favorite artist and sometimes to indulge in drugs & alcohol if that’s your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:29 AM
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A lot of the times yes. They’re extroverted people that like to be the life of the party and the center of attention. Doesn’t mean they like all types of attention though. I’ve been invited to plenty. People go to get attention whether it’s just mild flirting a full blown hookup or to get shitfaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:28 AM
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Men want what they want and they approach what they want. Hot extroverted girls. Shy plain girls are plenty visible outside of club environments. They get hit on by men that are genuinely into that type. Other men claim that’s what they want yet their actions show otherwise. Men prefer hot extroverted party girls because they like the passion, fun and excitement those women bring. They only claim they like plain shy girls because they don’t like the constant attention hot extroverted women get. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:14 PM
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They do make themselves available. They’re in hobby groups, they’re on dating apps, they’re out and about. They’re just not in the club or bars as frequently but they’re there for those who want to date them. Men just aren’t as interested in them. “Watch what they do not what they say” mens actions show that hot extroverted girls are what they want. Not plain introverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:11 PM
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Introverted women still go out and they also use dating apps. I’ve dated a couple. The only thing is, the relationship will be a slow burn and you’re probably not going to find them at clubs/bars very often. Sometimes they do go to those places if they were dragged to a girls night out, they’re just sitting in the corner. At the end of the day though, shy plain janes are there for those who seek them out. They’re just not as sought out because hot party girls are more extroverted and men like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:09 PM
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They’re not exactly shying away from the attention now are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:06 PM
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So you say but irl hot party girls are getting the most attention because they’re hot and extroverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:06 PM
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So then men do not want shy plain Janes like they claim. They want attention seeking party girls. Why not just be honest about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:18 AM
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I’ve probably have heard about some of them them. I went down that rabbit hole in middle/highschool. Men who other mgtow call monks. They’re celibate and don’t engage with women unless absolutely necessary. Some who’ve taken it so far as to leave society as a whole and live off grid. However on the flip side I’ve also seen men who say these monks aren’t the only way to be mgtow, monks are just the most dedicated. So it seems there’s not one unanimous answer. Just believing in a gynocracy and bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:38 PM
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You never answered the question. Are you just as fearful of being falsely accused of murder as you are of being falsely accused of sexual violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:35 PM
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And my point is that some of them they can do in real life and do in real life when there aren’t legal/social barriers for them doing so. BDSM and the like can be done in real life and it’s why it’s not as popular as a porn category as some others. I’m not arguing about why they might not watch porn. I’m arguing why they do and the reasons I think are not the same as the ones you think. Role play is equivalent to porn. It’s a stand in for the real thing. Hence the comment about sec workers. A lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:10 PM
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You can find it out from talking to people on all sides of that equation. Fathers who are attracted to their daughters step-daughters but don’t act on it, daughters/step daughter who grew up with fathers like that, sex workers who entertain those incestuous taboos. There’s a lot less legal and social barrier for bdsm than there is for incest/pseudo incest. I’ve not once moved the goal post. You’re trying to force an agreement that’s not there and are getting frustrated. What you’re doing is akin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:40 PM
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No I don’t chase men period. If I express interest, we plan a date then he skips out due to insecurity that’s on him. I’m not here to save him from getting in his own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:33 PM
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Not a popular one judging by the most watched porn categories and the fetishes I’m talking about are taboo. You can’t indulge in incest or sleeping with step family members a socially or legally sanctioned way. You can do so with bondage so they’re not on the same wave length.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:32 PM
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Which step-daughter/daughter porn, teen etc doesn’t fall under. Men are still the dominant ones in those videos. So he’s in control of the range whether that’s taking the lead or tying the chick up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:22 PM
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Again, at the end I’m not. Re-read our conversations. Step daughter/daughter porn isn’t the same as “woman takes the lead”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:18 PM
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He wasn’t right in my case but I wasn’t about to chase around a guy I barely knew because he was getting in his own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:56 PM
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We don’t really know how many men are rape either due to underreporting but they have decent estimates of both and more men are raped than are falsely accused and that’s if you assume the figure for false reports were all proven false and not just unfounded and all those accused were men. Even when being that lenient the figure for men who are victims of rape is higher than the figure of false allegations. Unfounded allegations are counted under false allegations and still the % is low. Also not…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:55 PM
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So then since there’s such a variety of different types you can not make as strong as an argument that that is what women ultimately want as those traits vary based on the character or the plot. You can however make a strong argument that they want strong, handsome, tall, charismatic men that love them unapologetically because no matter what sub-type, what genre, regardless of the plot those traits are always present and are the ultimate selling point for womens erotica.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:52 PM
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Yes. He will walk away losing the same as any other crime people get falsely accused of. Yet men don’t walk around in fear of being falsely accused of murder, theft, drug usage, pedophilia etc. Yes there’s statistics on it. A man is more likely to be raped than to be falsely accused of rape. https://stoprape.humboldt.edu/statistics https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/Publications_NSVRC_Overview_False-Reporting.pdf If you want to take her to court for defamation do your thing. Otherwise you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:49 PM
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Nope I didn’t. You tried to claim it was for plot, dominance, sexual assertiveness etc. And it’s not. It’s for the women’s looks and sometimes specific fetishes like step sister porn/ daddy daughter etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:43 PM
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They’re more than that, some men just don’t like all that comes with it. Like they’d be cool with her riding but not pegging, or they’d be cool with her dominating sexually but not in other aspects of the relationship. Plus the most popular porn categories don’t have much to do with the woman being more dominant and sexually aggressive. Most of the popular categories the woman is still passive and letting the man lead sexually or dominate her. So that explanation doesn’t make sense either. Imo m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:32 AM
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So what’s the point then? If men want women that will take the lead sexually they can be found outside of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:19 AM
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The plot device thing is true. Of course there’s evil women that want evil men. Doesn’t change the fact that the crime boss thing is just a plot device. You can tell because of what is consistent vs inconsistent in erotica for women. Sometimes the man is a doctor, a Tarzan type who’s in a jungle, sometimes he’s a ceo, sometimes he’s a lawyer, sometimes he’s a werewolf, sometimes he’s a vampire, sometimes he’s an alien prince, sometimes he’s just a regular guy(in terms of lifestyle). All that var…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:18 AM
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She can lie doesn’t make it true or that it will stick. Rape is a hard crime to prove and false allegations are rare. A man is more likely to be raped than to be falsely accused of it so I always find it interesting that that’s the fear despite the probability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:13 AM
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It’s not rare at all if you know who to pick. Fetlife dominatrix women or women that are more dominant put in it their bios.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 03:13 AM
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They don’t want the crime lord part but they want the sexy, suave, tall, dominating man. The crime lord aspect just serves as a plot device to drive the story. So it still doesn’t make any sense. Most video porn doesn’t have any real plot. Even the videos that do often get cut down once they’re pirated to only show the sex. And most men aren’t watching it for that anyway unless it’s very very specific fetish content like step mom/step sister porn. Cheerleader, secretary etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:01 AM
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A lot of them do still have formal relationships with women. They just won’t marry, yet they still call themselves mgtow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:58 AM
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How are you approaching sex with women where there is a risk she can decide it’s not consensual? Also as men tell women when they deal with crazy men, take some accountability and choose better. If you don’t pick crazy women you won’t have crazy drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:57 AM
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Pretty big, the insecurity is justified but sometimes you have to know when to reign it in. Just as how men don’t like having that thrown on them after barely meeting a woman, women don’t like it either when men do it. I’ve done on dates with shorter men and had one partner that was shorter. Most had some insecurities about their height although the levels of severity varied. One guy was so self loathing he got in his own way. He showed up to the designated date spot 30 minutes early then left b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:52 AM
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I don’t care because I don’t get emotionally attached to men. For women who do get emotionally attached though, they’re hurt because they know they’re not that man’s type or their boyfriend might start comparing and contrasting. For IG models specifically many men flirt with them and are willing to do more for them than they would their own girlfriends. Plus it’s just confusing, men are disgusted by those women and don’t want their girlfriends acting in that manner yet those women are the object…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:50 AM
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Looks. That’s just the packaging and doesn’t mean much of anything. However if they reject my personality that means they don’t like who I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:19 PM
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It’d look like Australia or the Nordic countries. So not much different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 05:42 PM
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Women do know what they want. Many also just know telling a man that is useless. He’s either what you want or not. If he is and you’re what he wants then things will be great and you’ll have a happy healthy relationship. Or he’s not and either you reject him or if you tell him what you want he’ll pretend to be that for as long as it’s sustainable then things degrade. If you don’t want the latter to happen why would you tell a man that? I’ve picked up other women and to be honest the hardest part…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:34 PM
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You think that because you live in a relatively safe nation where the depravity of poverty is kept under wraps. When those safety nets aren’t in place there’s definitely contest and society as a whole becomes less pleasant to live in because there’s more threat of being robbed, assaulted, killed etc. Police have to work significantly harder than they do in most first world nations to keep homeless people off the streets, respond to calls of crime etc. And they expect to be well compensated for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:32 PM
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There’ll be a lot less with preventative measures in place and doing away with support systems doesn’t save you money. It just gets redirected. Instead of section 8 and food stamps you’re paying for more policing and grave digging. So your money is getting taken either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:10 PM
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They age out of most mens preferences once they start liking that look though. Men prefer women 18-25 and 25+ is when women really start liking more muscular men, bearded men etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:08 PM
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You care that your money is being used to do so. So the point they’re making is if you don’t want your money to go to that support preventative measures so that there’s less or no poor people for your tax money to support.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:05 PM
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All these resources are already there and they’re not sex specific. It’s just up to boys and girls whether they want to seek it out. Most middle and high schools if you’re not a jerk you can meet with your teacher outside of class time for extra help, same with college prep resources if you’re polite guidance counselor’s will provide extras when asked like SAT prep, essay writing, scholarship opportunities etc. In university professors have officers hours if you ask and so do their TAs, as well …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:56 PM
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Because giving men direct advice isn’t beneficial to women. Same in the reverse men give women advice that benefits them, not women. No one wants to give someone the playbook to be fake and screw them over. They want you to come as you are so they can adequately evaluate you. Then there’s women that give advice assuming the man in the question has already passed their looks threshold. So the advice is helpful if the woman already likes you but it’s useless if she doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:46 PM
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The reasonings are because most people don’t just accept a preference straight out when it comes to dating. They’ll ask why and try to argue how it’s silly to prefer certain traits over others because it doesn’t matter. So then people come up with justifications for why they like what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:41 PM
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Yet reading mens complaints about women why would they want to? Men complain womens standards are too high and getting sex from women is troublesome. So if you could avoid that why would you not? Not all bi men are as attracted to women as straight men yet they still try and go for women when they could just get out of the dating game men label as unfair, demoralizing and stacked against men. Some bisexual men who are attracted to women but don’t want to deal with actually dating them with subli…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:52 AM
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It’s harmless imo it’s the same as standards for race, height, religion, hair color, political views, hobbies, diet etc. In dating. Logically some of these things don’t impact partner compatibility yet people have standards about them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:47 AM
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Only if he's more on the gay side of the spectrum, Even for bi men that prefer women more they often say men are easier. As in it’s easier to get sex from then, easier to relate, less hassle while dating etc. They all have a preference for women but like that men are more convenient and chill. and only if he's in social circles where there aren't social repercussions for it. I think for most guys it would be much simpler to just present as straight and fuck men on the low. Yes you can do this wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:44 AM
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It does apply because a woman that couldn’t love you holistically has done you a favor by removing yourself and making way for a more compatible match.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:40 AM
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If you knowingly and willingly assumed responsibility for that child then yes. That’s something you chose. Which is why I made the distinction earlier. Did the man know or not know? If he did not know, that’s unjust he was tricked and his choice was taken from him. If he did know and still proceeded anyway then he had the opportunity to make the choice and so it’s just.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:35 PM
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do you understand what exceptions and rules mean ? Do you understand what you mean when you say men don’t have choices? We are not talking about hypothetical situations where men and women miraculously change their preferences, we are talking about the observable world. And in the observable world what you call an “exception”(which in reality is a growing trend.) would be more of a norm if men wanted it to be and were willing to accept the same potential downsides as women when they go for provi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:26 PM
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What do you mean. Mens views on quality of mlm vs mlw relationships + women who wouldn’t love you holistically self-selecting themselves out of a bisexual man’s dating pool negates the biphobia imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:21 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-many-women-earn-more-than-their-husbands/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:04 PM
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All of the things you have talked about are EXCEPTIONS, not the rule when it comes to provisioning for a man by a woman: something that you consistently fail to recognize (cognitive dissonance) Nope. My point is they’d be more common if men themselves switched their own standards, just as women do depending on what they’re trying to get. If you want a man that’s faithful and monogamous he’s probably not going to be sexually skilled and suave same vice versa. For men if you want a woman that will…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:02 PM
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A simpleton would be repeating your incorrect claim when presented with new information. Way to expose yourself. You’re definitely an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect but unfortunately I have to let you know that your perceived high intelligence isn’t an accurate reflection of what it actually is. Have a good one 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:40 PM
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Nope the fact that they finish quicker and take longer to recover balances things. If they were truly more horny their refractory period would reflect that and sexual marathons would actually improve reproductive success because they could spread their seed to more women more efficiently. Doing more rounds would result in a higher likelihood that the pregnancy takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:38 PM
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They pick up on it if they like you because they pay enough attention to you to see if you’re flirting or just being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:35 PM
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This is strictly a matter of opinion. It’s strictly a matter of observation. Not all men take the offer to have their way paid in life. Otherwise you’d see a lot more of it happening. Some men can put up with what it takes to have that others can’t and rajah dictates who takes the offer and for how long. Even in places where women make a lot of money, they still choose men who make the same or more. Not anymore. The number of women who are the higher earner has been rising. In America at least i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:35 PM
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It does. If you were that horny you’d be able to maintain it. Arousal, attraction and stamina are all a part of determining one’s level of horniness. Every woman who transitioned into being a man did not report higher levels of being horny. Same as the reverse. Every man that transitioned into a woman didn’t report being less horny. So sorry you’re wrong and don’t know what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:17 PM
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I’ve comprehended everything you said. You’re just unable to back your statements and projecting that onto me. Come back when you put the cr*ck pipe down. Have a good one 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:15 PM
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Oh so now it’s dependent on the individual but when women make that same claim it’s invalidated because it’s average being discussed not outliers. Refractory has everything to do with it. If men are so horny why is their refractory period longer? They should bounce back in between orgasms just as quickly as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:33 PM
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Not really because it will take a lot out of you. Relating it back to food again. Eating smaller meals will have you hungry more frequently. Eating larger meals you won’t be as hungry because you’ll be more full after each meal and take more time to digest a larger quantity of food. Same with sex. More intense sessions can leave you more satisfied but also more fatigued after so you don’t need to do it as frequently. You can relate it to exercise as well. You’ll want to and need to work out more…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:31 PM
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How many rounds can they go with women they’re attracted to vs women with men they’re attracted to? Mens refractory period is longer than women’s. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:29 PM
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How many rounds can they go with women they’re attracted to vs women with men they’re attracted to? Mens refractory period is longer than women’s. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:28 PM
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By picking partners, I mean the likelihood of someone willing to engage you romantically, not literally I.e consent. Something that is just as in your control as a man ad it is for a woman. You either find your audience, figure out how to attract your type or just work on attracting anyone at all if you were very unattractive and off putting at the start. Most men and women aren’t in that boat though. They can attract someone it may just not be their type so then your choices are to either accep…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:27 PM
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You don’t have to pay attention to every single interaction. Just enough to notice a trend. Like let’s say you casually see them interacting with 10 people but you only pay attention to 3 of those and you notice they’re polite to those 3 people but not as kind and engaging as they are with you. That’s enough to notice a little trend. The men and women I went for typically weren’t the type to flirt with every one from what I’ve observed. So I don’t think that had any impact on them picking up on …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:15 PM
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Look, I'm not saying it can never happen, but that some bisexual men don't want that and would rather date women, no matter how many people complain about them. It doesn't mean they're any less bisexual and it's still a valid choice. I’m not saying you said it can’t. I’m just not getting why a man wouldn’t give the choice. Especially seeing how many feel about women and how they approach dating women. The only option I can think of is fear of homophobia from the larger community. However not all…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:13 PM
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If you like them you’d pay attention. If you don’t you won’t, because you’re not interested in them and what they do. Which is why for me so far it’s been a good metric to tell who is/isn’t interested. Some men pick up and flirt back then I’ll ask them out if they don’t first. Others don’t and I leave it be because I realize they’re not interested and I’m probably bothering them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:57 PM
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I read it. You said violence not homicidal urges. One can be violent but not murderous because they don’t have homicidal urges. So if you choose to drop the qualifier down to “violence” vs “homicidality/homicidal urges” that becomes indicative of a wider range of acts. Learn to read and comprehend honey. The scenarios are not impossible. Read up on some rejection violence cases. One case the attacker left, got a gun and then found the victim again to kill them, another the victim was walking awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:54 PM
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Nah, if the guy likes me too he’d know it’s flirting because I don’t treat others like that. If he doesn’t know that, then it’s safe to assume he hasn’t been paying attention to me because he doesn’t like me and then I move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:48 PM
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Men DONT get to pick their struggles, WOMEN do. Men do get to pick their struggles and they showcase this everyday. They just also complain about the potential downsides of the struggles they pick. Most men don’t get to pick their partners because most women collectively opt for above average men. Men do get to pick their partners. A relationship requires consent from 2 people. It’s either settle at some point or contend with confirmed bachelorhood. Or become attractive to those you’re attracted…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:47 PM
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Complimenting them a lot, asking about their interests, always smiling and being personable around them, bringing them their favorite snacks, food etc or always being willing to help them out within my capabilities if they ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:39 PM
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It is. You're just delusional or don't want to admit it. Which is par for the course around here. In fact, it's the exact point of the OP. Wrong. Attraction is rarer but when it’s there they’re just as if not more sexually interested in the man as men are in a woman they find attractive. Finding someone attractive isn't what horniness is. It's thinking about having sex with everybody you see which is typical of a man. Finding someone attractive is the precursor to horniness. If nothing is arousi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:38 PM
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Not unhinged you brought up violence and murders so I followed suit: Women don't have the strength or the tendency towards violence men do to commit murders? The person may not necessarily hit back. Most people get stunned for a few seconds in situations like that so that’s enough time for you to land a hit and scurry off. So the difficulty does not change by gender. Especially not in modern times with weapons as an equalizer. What do you mean by outrage and sour grapes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:34 PM
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It isn't a matter of incentive. If you're heteroromantic, you simply can't form the same bonds in dating with the same sex as you can with the opposite. You don’t need this bond to maintain a relationship though. Plenty of men partner with women they don’t live simply because it’s convenient,beneficial and the sexual attraction is there. Based on what men say mlm is more convenient and beneficial than mlw so as long as the sexual attraction is there couldn’t an mlm relationship work even if one …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:33 PM
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It’s not. The disconnect is coming from the fact that men are judging horniness by quantity vs quality. To explain I’ll pose this Q. Who is more horny. A man who finds a hundreds of women attractive but can only maintain that horniness for 1 sexual release a day? Or a woman that finds only 5 men attractive but can maintain that horniness for 4 sexual releases a day?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:22 PM
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Flirting and favors usually and if he’s receptive to that I’ll ask them out explicitly if not I just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:16 PM
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Sure, so you realize the barrier is much lower for men, so it's easier to commit these crimes of passion. Not really. A lot of women carry weapons on them. So while a man may be able to just punch someone in the face for rejection him, a woman could pepper spray or tase them. She could even hit them as well it just wouldn’t cause as much physical damage. Broken vs bruised jaw. Either way those are all still violent acts. It's very silly for you to assume these are one to one without considering …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:14 PM
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So what you’re saying is that it’s ok for men to lower their standards, but when women do it, they risk not being attracted to their partner? I’m saying it’s ok for both but if you ask that of someone prepare for the risks/consequences. Women know that if a man isn’t attracted to them they risk him doing/investing less. So they either avoid that by leveraging their looks and only going for men that are attracted to them and would do the most for them or they accept the risk and try to an attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:10 PM
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Apparently, according to op. If what you’re attracted to hasn’t changed it’s because you’re not desperate enough. Some fem boys and cross dressers can pass well enough. Why don’t sexually unsuccessful men explore that option?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:04 PM
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Women don’t need the strength to commit violence, just the tendency which they have. There are female abusers, murderers etc. They may not have been stronger than all their victims but they were still violent enough to figure out how to assault or murder their victims. So rejection violence is a good metric to use. Based on your response though they’re not violently responding to rejection so what do you mean by “freaking out”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:03 PM
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The kid thing isn't a problem, as long as one or the other is okay with being the sole biological father of the child. Perhaps I should have said "if he wants a child the usual way." Most gay couples I’ve met do accept this or they’ll have 2 kids so that each man has a chance at being the biological father. It isn't so simple if your sexuality just happens to be more heterosexual than homosexual. Some men are homosexual but heteroromantic, meaning that they can't really have lasting relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:00 PM
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So then the woman isn’t freaking out I thought you guys were comparing them to actual freak outs like killing, stalking violence and aggression etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:52 PM
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Women don’t lose their minds. They get annoyed because the same men who tell them this also complain about dead bedrooms and women not putting effort into sex because they’re not attracted to the guy they’re paired up with. They complain about the quality of attraction based activities decreasing because of the lack of attraction. The issue is men won’t pick a struggle. If you want women to lower their standards then it’s illogical to complain that they’re less/not attracted to the men they lowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:51 PM
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And that’s perfectly fine as well. They can make peace with being single. It’s better than going for a man they’re not attracted to and having endless complaints and accusations lauded at them of whether or not the guy is a beta bux, causing a dead bedroom, their attraction to their average or ugly partner constantly being called into question etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:48 PM
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Women are rejection killing men at the same rate? I didn’t know that. The rest of their paragraph makes sense as well. Women are called picky if they don’t give men they’re not attracted to a chance. If they do give those men s chance they’re accused of being whores or that they’re just using the man for something. It’s really a damned if you, damned if you don’t kind of situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:45 PM
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So why not date other men if you’re that horny. If the premise of the post is true and all it takes is desperation sexually unsuccessful men should not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:43 PM
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With this logic no man should be sexually unsuccessful. You can always go for less attractive women or even men and have your sexual needs met if you’re desperate enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:42 PM
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Sexual satisfaction relates to sexual activity. If the sex you do have leaves you satisfied for longer you won’t crave it at the same frequency. If it’s unsatisfying you’ll crave it more in an attempt to get that horny itch adequately scratched.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:35 PM
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Lesbian couples have more satisfying sex sessions with more orgasms. That can take a lot out of you. So it’s like eating. You won’t need to have several little meals if you have a few big fulfilling ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:33 PM
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Which is not a bad thing. Dating isn’t EO. Women generally aren’t going to lash out violently at a man if she finds out he’s bisexual so a man being open and honest about that just results in women who wouldn’t date him self-selecting out of his dating pool, but men and women who would date and sleep with him still being there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:32 PM
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Why is that a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:30 PM
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Because the quality of them may increase. You won’t match with as many women but those who do match with you will be cool with you being bisexual. Plus men say mlm relationships are better and easier so even if you weed out a large chunk of women it wouldn’t even really matter as men are still there to date and sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:29 PM
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I don’t understand why that’s a problem? Wouldn’t it be more fun for bi men to fuck and date men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:27 PM
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I don’t understand why the kid thing is a problem. A man doesn’t need to be in a relationship with a woman to have kids. He could hire a surrogate with his male partner. Even if one is attracted to women more, with the way men complain about women and idolize MLM relationships wouldn’t that be enough for him to enjoy a relationship with a male partner more even if the attraction to women is still there?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:26 PM
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I just move on. If I’ve flirted with someone and expressed interest and they don’t reciprocate that I just accept the rejection for what it is and move on. If we weren’t really friends or acquaintances and we barely talked before I started flirting with them I’ll return to that norm. I guess to a man that may read as cold and distant though, but in reality it’s just the origin point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:18 PM
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lol a health hazard huh? Really? Really...? Wouldn't these dudes be dead or dying by now, assuming they've spent any amount of time single? Nope because they clean it when it starts getting really bad, I however prefer to clean it before it gets to that point. So I wouldn’t want to live with someone who’s not on the same page. You ought to at least let it go long enough to see at what point they do decide to clean. Maybe their threshold is like half a day after yours and you just never knew it l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 12:55 AM
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It will affect the partner with the higher cleanliness threshold first. So someone who is ok with dishes piled up in the sink, trash being left until it’s bursting or overflowing and stinking up the place, scum in the toilet and bathroom getting darker by the day etc will not be as affected by the filth as their partner who likes a clean sink, clean toilet, trash emptied before it gets too full etc. So one person will be impacted while the other won’t care until it gets to a point where things a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:14 PM
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I see you ignored everything I wrote. I’m not doing anything for those mofos. I don’t live with them, therefore I don’t have them making a mess in my living space that I either have to tolerate filth because they don’t listen when asked to clean up or do it myself. They have their own living arrangements, I have mine and no conflict about cleaning is ever had.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 11:11 PM
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Yep I’ve been there as well. So now I’d never live with or have sleep overs with a man unless he’s the type that likes cooking and cleaning or he can afford a housekeeper. Otherwise there’s a risk or him suddenly “forgetting” all the maintenance tasks he knew when single.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:17 PM
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Yeah it is. Even men that know how to cook and clean will often pretend not to because it’s easier for them if their partner always does it. The only solution really is to not cohabitate with men unless they prove they’re not that type.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:24 PM
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Men take care of themselves when they’re single because they have to and even the quality of that care is debatable. However when they have a partner man will try to be slick and pass everything off onto her. “Oh you’re just faster at doing xyz” “you do a better job of abc” etc. So men who were perfectly self sufficient when single all of a sudden forget all their home maintenance skills. The only solution is to just drop them or if you have an ltr live separately into perpetuity. That way they …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:23 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:06 PM
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For hookups I exclusively look for men that like to be pegged and dominated. I’m anti-marriage but for a boyfriend I’d look for a more self-sufficient guy that’s fun to hang around outside of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:05 PM
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Not anymore. Times have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:15 PM
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Not in this regard. A lot of half naked young people of all gender identities flaunting themselves for social media attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:20 PM
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All of those things are much worse on a single income. Married women are happier. Married women are not happier. You can live with your parents to counterbalance some of those effects without having an extra person(romantic partner) there running up more bills. Being single is cheaper sometimes. And we'll never agree on anything if you think being rejected on race is okay. It's reflective of a sick and racialized society. Your general acceptance and apathy is just sad to me, and I can't relate t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:19 PM
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Yes and how difficult you find it really depends on your libido and what kind of friends you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:08 PM
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Some lonely people will never find a partner. There’s no point harping on something you’ll never have. It will only make you more miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:07 PM
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I’d advise him to give up. Not everyone is going to find love and that’s ok. He should focus his energy on other things instead. Like hobbies, friendships etc. As you said constantly putting yourself out there and getting rejected and never getting even one match is demoralizing so he should just give up. Men tend to not like that advice coming from a woman though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:05 PM
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Well they love to do it all day when talking about womens standards and the likelihood they’ll get what they want. I’m just saying the same applies both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:56 AM
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My point is what men think is average actually isn’t. So just like they say women have competition for “chads” so do they for thin women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:24 AM
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We don’t exist to fulfill the role of “sex” for men. Where’d you get that idea from? I put sexless in quotes for a reason. As I don’t think women owe men sex and women are not responsible for mens sex lives. However when women are picky about who they sleep with or they’re not having sex at all they’re blamed for causing the sexlessness among men. Having sex with men isn’t the centerpiece of a woman’s life. We don’t raise women to go out into the world to have sex with men as a life goal. When m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:24 AM
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You're just saying what I'm saying but missing the fact that women are more miserable than ever despite decades of feminism. You just accept their not being attracted to average men like it's entirely a problem of the average man and not the environment manipulating hypergamy. Women are far more racist in the dating market for the same reasons. Do you think that's okay? 1) anti-depressants and certain “happy drugs” were less regulated and tracked in the past. 2) Even if you don’t question the da…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:22 AM
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Whether he’s fat or not he can seek out whatever he wants. I don’t really care you can be 500 pounds yet only want skinny women or 6’2 and buff. What a man pursued is his business. I’m just pointing out the odds and what actually constitutes “average” for an American women. What men say are “average” women is not as average Americans are overweight and obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:10 AM
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Exactly my point. They don’t think about getting tested. The thought process of most is that if he uses a condom and she’s not a “ho” he’s good to go. My point is this in Colorado thin women are not relegated to just dating men near them. The internet has made dating National and international if you’re open to it. Before the internet you were relegated to dating what was near you. It is a high standard in the US when ever is competing against way more people for partners than they once were.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:32 PM
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A lot of men go overseas to be sex pats where it is legal. Or if it’s not they okay sugar daddy in a country where they get more bang for their buck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:28 PM
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Men do care because a lot of them don’t bring up testing so they rely on the girls chastity to avoid stds/stis along with condoms. Anyway if you exclude fat women you’ll have a harder time because dating isn’t just relegated to your small town anymore. With dating apps you can see people all over. So if you’re a thin girl why would you date an overweight or unattractive guy when an in shape man is offering you the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:22 PM
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Mgtow men who can’t/don’t want go monk mode pay for sex if they can’t attract it naturally. However there’s a growing number of men that are disinterested in it all just like women because their options are less appealing than staying single
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:19 PM
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More women are. They’re choosing to be single. Yet that’s a problem too because it leaves men “sexless”. There’s no real option here besides selfishness and apathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:16 PM
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The way some of these young girls are moving they’re not ready going to be single mothers, they’re going to be deadbeat mothers who leave men single fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:15 PM
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No it’s simple supply and demand. Men are more concerned about not getting what they want so they get more advice. Plus women already got the beauty advice which is why the industry is so expansive. So many people got rich off selling diet, exercise, makeup, cosmetic etc advice and products to women. Now they’re seeing men are also a lucrative market and it’s working.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:13 PM
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Because women were sold the beauty bs already and multi billion dollar industries built off fad dieting, exercise and cosmetic trends. The pushback against it are recent. Plus most women are just content to be single if they don’t get what they want while men theorize and strategize about not getting anyone. So they’re given that advice because it helps them to be more sexually successful. If men were cool being single and celibate as well they wouldn’t get that advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:12 PM
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I don’t know where you live but in America don’t be fat is wanting above average as most people here are overweight/obese= fat. Men also add be nice and don’t be a slut to that as well which will shrink your pool further depending on what your definitions of those things are. Men could find someone to date them if they dropped the above standards. They’re just like women though, they’d rather be single than date someone they’re not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:08 PM
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They can stop looking down on average men while still not wanting to date them. Plenty of women are in that boat. They’re just not interested in dating anymore but they don’t look down on average men. They don’t really think about them much at all really.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:05 PM
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Please. Mgtow wouldn’t be a thing if this was true. There are men and women who simply don’t want relationships and they’ll pick stand ins for them over interacting with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:05 PM
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Even if we take your premise as correct your conclusion is not inherently correct as it’s clouded by your personal bias for what constitutes a “right” vs “wrong” reason for wanting a career. Wanting to protect yourself vs wanting to provide for a family are both really valid reasons as they are external motivators that can be swayed by changing circumstances. Ie a man with no family & a woman with a dependable provider. Not to mention you’re ignoring some other reasons people want their careers,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:31 PM
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It’s not a strawman. That’s really all it is because really there’s nothing wrong with women not dating men they don’t like. You can claim they’re too picky, standards are too high yada yada but at the end of the day that really doesn’t impact anyone but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:25 PM
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In the real world it doesn’t take the form of a war. It’s just those friends or acquaintances you see who are perpetually single because they don’t like their options. The ones who aren’t desperate enough to settle but also not incentivized enough to try harder to get what they want. So they live the perpetual bachelor/bachelorette lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:23 PM
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There is when they're doing it for completely delusional reasons that will hurt them in the end. Do you think that low of average men? Are you an average modern woman or do you just think like one for some bizzare reason? They’re not doing it for delusional reasons. They know they’re not getting what they want and are settling for being single instead as that makes them happier than anything they’d get from dating. A woman dating a man she’s not attracted to will cause more hurt for her and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:19 PM
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Which with average and ugly women dating average and ugly men that gap will be hard to achieve. Getting to a know a person is the best and only way. With OLD you can talk to a guy and go on dates before agreeing to sleep with him. You just have to prep yourself to know what to look for and understand that certain little things can be a sign of a bigger issue. Someone being an asshole is not dependent on looks. You assumed she was pretty and only dating hot guys when you can experience that exact…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:46 AM
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Once again you keep bringing up pretty and beautiful women. That doesn’t help average and ugly women who are the majority of women. You said yourself in another comment men don’t care about those women anyway so why you keep pushing this idea that exclusively dating one type of men based on looks vs the other will change anything is beyond me. The key here is to get based on his character and behavior not his face. Snap judgements about people off useless information is how you get yourself into…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:46 PM
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Lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:41 PM
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So once again if the woman looks about the same as them. Which is most likely the case since most people are average. It will do nothing for her. Beyond factoring in attraction from the woman’s end a man’s looks do nothing and tell you nothing about him. You have to watch how he treats you. You’re arguing lies. There’s women who get treated like crap by their average boyfriends, dates and husbands everyday because a man’s looks say nothing of how he will treat you. I already outlined the differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:26 PM
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It’s not related at all and we’ve already gone in circles about this. The only difference is a handsome guy that doesn’t value a woman will let her leave in peace, while an average or ugly guy that doesn’t value a woman will keep bothering her because he doesn’t want to lose access to consistent sex as he never knows when he’ll get it again. He won’t treat her well, respect her or value her, he’ll just mistreat her and pester her. The thing you don’t understand is ops situation can happen with l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:01 PM
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All the statistics show that more than 30% of men under 30 are virgins. So yeah, I would say that this is a pretty fair problem. Especially considering the fact that this percentage used to be far lower in earlier decades. In fact, in the 80s, it was closer to 7%. Which means that 60-70% are not virgins. Sexlessness has gone up for women as well. Millennials and gen Z are just having less sex than previous generations and it’s not unique to one gender. It’s probably just a symptom of larger thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:20 PM
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In the beginning you also maintained that women are getting what they want and me reenactment has reenforced that as well. So why you flip flopped and said now that they’re not getting what they want is beyond me. That’s how you’re being dishonest. They don’t control the casual sex market either. Handsome men do as they have the most power and leverage and they are getting what they want. Everyone else falls below that. Once again, I’m talking about dating as a whole. So all of it needs to be me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:49 AM
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Exactly. It’s just so normalized with men that people don’t even register it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:36 AM
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Because people settle and deviate all the time. How sincere they are in their feelings for their partner when they do they varies by the person and how important looks are to them as an individual. Not to mention there are outliers than can seem insignificant as individual points but then they can add up. If women date outside of the top % of men they’ll will be treated how op described. The only way to know if a man will treat you well is if he’s already shown he likes and values you. His circu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:33 AM
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So why continue to pretend that the majority of women will get radically different treatment if they date average or unattractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:56 AM
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I had to cut down some of the quotes and add ellipses to accommodate for length. My apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:55 AM
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I already acknowledged that this issue is a valid issue and it needs to be discussed. My problem is the way it is being . . . Well your issue with how it’s framed is neither here nor there as it has nothing to do with me personally and our discussion. And those who you take issue with aren’t here to expand on that with you. Of course! I'm just pointing out the consequences of them misframing an . . . It does good to the people complaining as k already stated. It’s cathartic for them. As we alrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:55 AM
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An unattractive man can be that kind of guy though. If he’s not into you, his looks are irrelevant his disinterest will show.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:32 AM
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The men I’m talking about are average and below. Dudes who get a couple dates a year than pan out to dudes who’ll get a date or two every few years if at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:56 AM
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Yep. I already see it. A camp I used to volunteer at didn’t let girls wear shorts above the knees but they let boys get away with that until the girls and their parents kept complaining about how the rule is unfair. Either everyone’s shorts has to touch their knees or everyone can wear whatever length shorts they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:55 AM
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It does distract. How? The pink tax complaints make everyone gloss over the actual issue. It doesn’t distract. As I said simultaneous discussions can be had. It just seems you as do others have a personal issue with this specific issue being discussed. Necessary items for basic human function are being monetized for a profit. And instead of focusing on that, the feminists are just going on about sexism and how bad women have it. As they should. People are free to talk about whatever they want an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:53 AM
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That’s you. Men in general are not like that and just as you say you’d treat a Toyota Carolla like a Maserati. Many more happily expose that they wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:45 AM
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Pointing it out doesn’t distract from anything. You can have multiple ongoing discussions and figure out how you’d like to solve each of them, whether or not any interconnect, what you think the causes are and order or priority all while discussing how different things impact your life and in what way etc. It’s not an all or nothing deal. You don’t have to be a feminist to complain about it. Actually people do complain about glasses, as well as other things like insulin, Epi-pens, inhalers etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:10 AM
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It doesn’t irl but when it doesn’t no harm in pointing it out and the potential detriments of that. Does gas serve a similar purpose to cereal? Are you eating gas and putting cereal in your car? You use toilet paper to take care of your hygiene just as you use tampons and pads to do the same. The alternative could be just for people to go without to save money but then there would be biohazard complaints. Sex is something you can more easily manage around your budget. Bleeding isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:51 AM
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I agree ugly men have lower standards for what they will tolerate I just don’t agree that those are the standards for what they actually like & desire. They definitely aren’t satisfied by those standards either. I’ve seen it myself. Using your car example. A guy with no car will take a free Toyota Carolla but do you think he will treat it the same way he’d treat a free Maserati? Nope. It’s the same thing with men. A borderline incel will take almost any woman that gives him the time of day but h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:49 AM
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You can compare it to other things like toilet paper, male shaving products for head hair and face hair. I’m not saying they should be given for free. I’m saying they should follow the same rate of inflation as everything else. You can want food and toilet paper to be free if you want. Add water to that list.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:45 AM
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It’s really not. Men just pay more attention to women doing it because they have a love hate relationship with it. They’ll fap to the women doing it, then call them disgusting whores the next. There’s quite a few young male celebrities who’s careers where literally built of thirst traps. Men just don’t pay attention to them. At least the straight ones don’t anyway. What I’m saying makes perfect sense. When you’re sexually attracted to both sides you notice more. Men and women aren’t all that dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:42 AM
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Yes but men will go low and treat the “low” the go very poorly. Which is my point. One doesn’t have to be chasing “chads” to be treated by men the way op described. All it takes is for you to not be that guys dream girl or type. He can be average or ugly but himself but if you’re not his type he’s not going to treat you well. You’ll get mediocre at best and emotionally abusive at worst. I’ve dated former incels, I’ve had male friends that were incels or borderline incels. They screw things up al…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:36 AM
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They consume it more because until menopause certain things they’ll continually need. If it not one expense it’s another. You either keep buying feminine care products to deal with your menstrual cycle or you keep paying for birth control to maybe try and stop your period but either way you’re paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:27 AM
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Yes and based on this new comment it seems we’re in agreement on almost everything. If you’re not pretty the looks of a man dictate very little on how he’ll treat you. You’re half-right half wrong. Men all have relatively the same concept of what is pretty or beautiful. You can swap out a few features here and there like preferred eye color, hair color/length, skin tone, height, breast/butt size etc. But they all have the same general threshold. The difference is attractive men can afford to dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:21 AM
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If you believe people are rational, it would be less likely. You obviously don't believe that though. People are not rational. At least not all the time. Some people are rational. Others flip flop and then some are irrational as a default. I'm a man. I've dated seriously for 20+ years. I'm telling you men act according to what gets them sex most efficiently. Men do not. If that was the case they’d have paid attention to female media on what they find desirable and the female gaze long ago. Inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:54 AM
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No duh. But we're talking about whether he treats an average girl with interest. The OP talked about a guy who blew her off, didn't value her time, didn't value her opinions, etc. Obviously if someone has many options they will value any one "lesser" option....less. And an average or ugly man can do the same thing. The only difference is depending on the woman and her self esteem she’ll do one of the following: -Either ghost men who act like this regardless of looks -Sleep with a good looking gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:33 AM
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As I said new ones come out all the time. Bumble and Hinge differentiated themselves by correcting some things people complained about on tinder. In the future some new app will do the same and capitalize by correcting things people complained about with their predecessors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:25 AM
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And again, why should average men who aren't having that much sex (if at all), be blamed for a woman's inability to orgasm. This is devolving into such a ridiculous argument. The majority of men are having sex. Even stats that men bring up to show how sexlessness is a huge problem shows that. Oh really? Then why are women giving these Chads a chance? Coz she wants to get pumped and dumped! Bingo! Thanks for proving my point! If you’re hoping to orgasm do you think it will be easier or harder tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:23 AM
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I’m going to respond back to this in two parts but just off the first portion of what you said you’re being dishonest: Uhh no. I said women are getting casual sex. Not once did I talk about whether those sexual encounters were satisfactory. And again, why should average men who aren't having that much sex (if at all), be blamed for a woman's inability to orgasm. This is devolving into such a ridiculous argument. Me: If women controlled it the majority would get what they want. You: In the contex…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:15 AM
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I don’t know if you’ve ever been on tiktok but men already do all that you’ve mentioned. They do it on Instagram too. They just do it in a way that’s aesthetically pleasing to their following and the thirsty men and women that follow them eat it up. Not to mention male celebrities especially in hip hop, r&b, dance hall and sometimes pop can get very overtly sexual as well. For some reason people are just more scandalized when women do it. When men gyrate, run around half naked or simulate sex ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:12 AM
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It set a precedent though. So even if Tinder fades into obscurity another app will take its place. Like hinge or bumble that are very popular, plus new ones are being made all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:04 AM
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Why would I care about orgasm gap statistics? Because you made the claim that women are getting what they want out of casual sex. They want to get off and orgasm too. So the orgasm gap statistics are relevant here That's a completely separate topic and frankly, the reason why I think there's a gap is because of a woman's lack or inability to communicate with regard to what turns her on. Men are not mind-readers. If you don't tell us specifically what turns you on during sex, we're not gonna be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:58 AM
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Tyler Blevins is tall and looks like every tik tok guy that has thirsty female followings. He’s conventionally attractive. You probably just more prefer the rugged hairy lumberjack type of look. The other guys I mentioned are no where near as popular as Ninja and Rubius. 300k+ and 3M are way less than 18M and 12M. So essentially the way Ninja looked helped him out, because Asmongold is the same race as ninja yet much less popular, because Ninja fits conventional beauty standards better than he d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:38 AM
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It’s not just that manufacturers charge women more for these things. https://mint.intuit.com/blog/relationships-2/pink-tax-5397/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:15 AM
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Cup doesn’t work for everyone. It depends on your lifestyle and your flow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:14 AM
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Because of taxes on feminine products.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:14 AM
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Go on food stamps and that’d already be somewhat true. If you live in the same country as me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:12 AM
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You are benefiting because you’d be paying for them in one way or another. Either for police presence when those kids are on the streets or the government grave diggers to bury them if you just let them starve to death. Not to mention an educated population is overall better for a nation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:12 AM
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I’m talking about the top twitch streamers. Most conventionally unattractive men and women or average looking men and women will have smaller niche followings at best. Unless they had contemporary fame that they converted into online fame. Female twitch streamers are doing the same as the males. Except they have it harder because men don’t interrogate good looking men who are mediocre at gameplay the same way they would a woman. Twitch is very much a bro environment. Men of any skill level can j…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:03 AM
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So the fact that you have to strip away 2 goals of dating to make your point shows they’re not getting what they want. They’re not getting what they want in casual sex either when you look at orgasm gap statistics. I do seriously believe that. Dating is the wild Wild West. No one owes anyone anything, no one is entitled to get what they want. The best you can do is try and hope you have enough sway to pull it off or work at it the best you can if you don’t. Whether or not you actually succeed in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:19 AM
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I never claimed he was racist. I did that for a reason. I only claimed he made his partner feel like crap because it was plainly obvious she was not his type and that he was still openly and frequently pining after his real type from his words and actions. If you read racism from that, then you drew your own conclusion on that front. My point is that thinking a guys looks will dictate whether or not he’s a safer or better option is naive. A man is a man. Whether he’s ugly, average or hot he has …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:16 AM
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Except they’re not even incredibly good at gaming. As I told the other guy, the literal world champions don’t have as many followers, fame or fortune from twitch and subsequent brand deals as the top twitch streamers. Most of the top twitch guys were helped by the fact that they’re conventionally attractive and they have fanboys coming out of the woodworks to deny it. They live life on easy mode. No one judges then for sitting around barely do anything and talking at the camera but women who do …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:10 AM
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I like women’s clothing so it’s fun to dress up and play around with femininity that way. It’s fun to get compliments and have fun that way with women too when I present that way. However when I’m going out and about for an extended amount of time especially in a densely populated area I like the anonymity and safety I get from presenting as a man. I get bothered and approached way less and even the standard panhandlers, religious recruiters etc are wayyy less pushy. So basically tldr femininity…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:06 AM
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Not really if you put in the work to be attractive as well it doesn’t require as many sacrifices.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:51 PM
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It does otherwise there’s really no benefit. It’s the same old same old. The effect is neutralized because you’re sacrificing being attracted to your partner and having a good sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:04 PM
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And an ugly woman wouldn’t be more attractive than anyone. Nor would an average woman be sufficiently attractive enough to get the same perks from dating an ugly guy that a beautiful woman would get from dating an average or ugly guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:47 PM
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You can know by asking. Use the same methods men tell women to use to figure out if men are poor choices. Just vet accordingly. I’m both. Depending on the day I switch things up. Why do you ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:10 PM
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Average men can pump and dump too. A man is a man. Either he likes you and will want things to continue or he doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:09 PM
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If women controlled it the majority would get what they want. No one controls the dating market. Its a free market and you either have enough sway to get what you want or you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:08 PM
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Let’s roll with this too then. Let’s say she only wants casual sex. Still no incentive to have it with average men, when she could do it with a more arousing partner that gets her in a space where it’s easier to orgasm. If women did all the time, with average men. PPD men wouldn’t be complaining all day about 80/20. As that would mean sex is being distributed fairly equally even if the reasons for the distribution are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:46 AM
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Your point? I’m not tolerating that behavior from them and I encourage other women to act accordingly. Let me ask you this. I grew up in a culture where violence is the answer to solve problems. Should I have kept that mindset and treated other people like that or was it right to break away from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:43 AM
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Lol. I literally explained the reason why she left him. His bitterness made her feel like crap. I’ll censor it since you can’t discuss race on ppd but he’d literally constantly complain about how yt girls rejected him while his gf was blck. Then he got caught making fun of a blck girl for being dark skinned. She rightfully caught on to the fact that he was with her because she’s the only woman that ever agreed to date him and not because he actually liked her. So she left. No one wants to be wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:41 AM
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Just as men tell women to be realistic the same applies to them. Casual sex is more risky and less beneficial for women so they need a greater incentive to participate. Being the best looking you can possibly be and going for women well below your league will optimize your chances of casual sex. Think about it. Why would an average woman accept casual sex from an average man, when she can get a relationship with an average man? A relationship that comes with sex too, that’s probably going to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:34 AM
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I very specifically gave a range of looks for a reason. If he’s average looking and casts a wide net and doesn’t exclude women then he can get sex a few times a month by most sleeping with 3s and 4s. A few times a year a 5 may sleep with him a every few years he could pull a woman that’s 6+. So an average man could definitely have casual sex a few times a month just not with the kind of women he’d probably want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:31 AM
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If the latter statement is false how is it more useful? I’m not following.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:29 AM
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Whether women are a unified front or not is irrelevant to the fact that abortion is life saving healthcare that helps women and other people who can get pregnant. Someone acting in the best interest of this group wouldn’t jeopardize that. Don’t deflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:28 AM
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If your girlfriend having more hookups than you is that off putting break up with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:26 AM
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Which as I said doesn’t do anything for the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:25 AM
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First let’s establish. What is “regular” to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:18 AM
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Hot women are happier because the men try harder. If the woman is average or ugly this doesn’t apply and the statement that “even average looking guys can be assholes” would still hold true for the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:17 AM
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They would. It’s asinine that you think women should just disregard all the ugly things they say and wish upon women in the hopes that maybe they don’t really mean it. They mean what they say and if you watch how they move they will prove it. They would not get over the bitterness they’d let it ruin their relationship. I’ve seen it. One guy I used to be friends with drove his ex girlfriend off and didn’t understand why she left him and wouldn’t take him back. Yet all he would do is complain abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:02 AM
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You’re not understanding me. Let me use this example. Let’s say you want some strawberries. You can identify bad strawberries and good strawberries so you never buy the bad ones. However you then also notice there’s not a lot of good ones. That’s the situation of modern dating. You can “not be an idiot” all day and discard bad choices but that doesn’t suddenly make more good ones appear.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:54 AM
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Exactly. Like a average guy could he cleaning up with the 3-5s with maybe a random 6-8 thrown in here and there if they catch them at the right time. However they don’t want that. Their floor is the 5-7s and they want a few random 8&9s thrown in and they want it to happen as frequently as it does for Chad. Then they get mad when it doesn’t play out like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:48 AM
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Same with women. Most people don’t get what they want in modern dating because there’s a lot of shadiness and mistrust
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:42 AM
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Where is the better company to be found? You can vet people and discard them as many times as you want but if their behavior is the cultural norm you’re sol unless you can afford to move and live somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:40 AM
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If they’re a seasoned predator they’ll definitely have both. That’s how they get away with multiple crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:39 AM
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Except you don’t have to pick these men as romantic partners to know they’re like this. I’ll use myself as an example. I used to only give chances to average or unattractive men because I believed the lie that they’d be better options for LTR than chads. Before we even got to the dating stage I’d talk to them, do some digging on their background, watch how they react to certain things vs others and without sleeping with them or getting into relationships with them I’d see that they had some deep…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:38 AM
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It’s in the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:34 AM
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So then why would you say take responsibility for you own choices? You don’t have to choose them to observe and understand a lot of them resent women yet obsessively lust after women at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:34 AM
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Average men get casual sex. They just suffer from the green eyed monster because they can’t get it at the same frequency and with the same caliber of women as the Chads they love and hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:32 AM
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You always assume women have to date these men to see how they are. You can come online and see how they talk. Listen to how they react to certain news stories and social situations. Observe how they approach you and talk to you without even knowing you etc. All of this can let you know a man has poor character without even dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:30 AM
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Thank you. The only difference is if an average man screws you over he’ll put on a show to get you back then do it again. If a hot guy screws your over he’ll let you leave and leave you be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:29 AM
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No it doesn’t. If you’ve dated men across the looks spectrum you’d know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:28 AM
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She was raped as a child. What did her 7 year old self do to attract that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:27 AM
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It’s definitely not all of them but the ones that are like that expose themselves if you give it enough time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:22 AM
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Nah dating women is still fun and having male bottoms to peg is still fun as well. I just wouldn’t let a man penetrate me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:21 AM
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In America yes because of what men consider average vs what actually is average. Plus the fact that men don’t take their own advice when it comes to dating. Plus stats shows currently the majority of men manage to have sex. So it can’t be that hard if most men can do it. My view may be biased though because I’ve dated both men and women. I didn’t find dating women particularly hard. To add to that also I’ve dated men that would be considered sexually unsuccessful and it’s very clear why that’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:18 AM
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Women are having less sex as well. Sexlessness is on the rise for both genders not just average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:15 AM
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You just have to be bitchy and ruthless towards them. Get a gun or whatever other weapon is legally allowed in your country so that if he gets aggressive you can defend yourself. If they push your boundary cut them off immediately. Depending on what you think their intentions may be you can give them a second chance after clearly communicating your boundaries. If they do it again that shows you it was intentional so just get rid of them and block them on everything so you don’t cave and give the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:14 AM
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I mean men say it themselves in their online spaces. Should women just assume those guys are all lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:10 AM
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Them not getting as many opportunities to display poor behavior doesn’t negate the existence of their poor behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:09 AM
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Average looking men can act the same way. Until recently the only men I dated were average to borderline incels they have their share of problems as well. A man’s looks tell you nothing of his character. You have to look at how his friends act and do a background check. That will tell you the truth about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:08 AM
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Yet people are having less and less sex every year. So the sex clearly isn’t the factor. Men have always been like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:07 AM
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Your source doesn’t back your claim. Especially considering twitch is just the platform to get them started. After that sponsorship and other brand deals start rolling in. So taking your source as true that means it’s easier for men to make money doing that as it doesn’t take much to get twitch famous. Fame they can then try and leverage on other platforms to gain more notoriety and get more endorsements. There are not more women making more money off their appearance than men making money off v…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:04 AM
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The premise is literally would you rather be a Chad or Stacy. Glad we agree it’s better to be a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:54 AM
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Lmaoo people just read to argue here and not to actually understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:54 AM
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Not by that wide of a margin and not everyone is as handsome as ninja either. A lot of them are much better players though. Rubius who is also conventionally attractive has 12M Ninjas 18M. Looks clearly play a part here as the top guys who are mostly handsome dudes wouldn’t be clearing other more talented game players by a wide margin. Asmon is not as successful as it gets. He’s as successful as it get for an average/unattractive man. Looking at what Ninja and Rubius have accomplished clearly lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:50 AM
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I read your comments and you repeatedly said that reproductive rights are not tied to a medical procedure. For pregnant people they are. Further evidenced by your unwillingness to even list one alternative to avoid the legal consequences of pregnancy without the medical procedure so by your own logic and words pregnant people do not fit the parameters for having reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:58 PM
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The right doesn’t apply to pregnant people at all according to what you’ve typed here today.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:56 PM
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He’s an exceptionally attractive overwatch player compared to the average. At least by conventional beauty standards. Which is why he’s in the top 4 instead of the guys that play better than him who don’t fit conventional beauty standards. Asmongold isn’t in the top 4. JJonak is one of the worlds best overwatch players, he literally won a world championship for it yet he’s not in the top 4 either because he doesn’t fit conventional beauty standards. Very telling. Heterosexual males still appreci…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:52 PM
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I didn’t ask for an “exhaustive list”. 1 or 2 alternatives apart from a medical procedure would’ve been sufficient. You’re not giving any alternatives because you don’t have any. You know there’s no alternative to escape the legal consequences of pregnancy for pregnant people beyond a medical procedure. If they elect not to have the procedure they are now legally responsible for the money owed to the hospital for labor and delivery and there’s no way to avoid that beyond termination. So by your …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:48 PM
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So I ask again: what are the other forms of escape that would allow a pregnant person the right to escape the legal consequences of pregnancy WITHOUT A MEDICAL PROCEDURE. You keep saying there’s alternatives and I keep asking what they are and you never answer. WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:41 PM
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SO THEN THE MEDICAL PROCEDURE IS INHERENTLY TIED TO THEIR RIGHTS. OTHERWISE THEY COULD HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS and evade the consequences of pregnancy WITHOUT THE MEDICAL PROCEDURE. So which is it? Either the medical procedure is not tied to their legal rights and they can evade the consequences of pregnancy WITHOUT the medical procedure or the medical procedure IS INHERENTLY TIED TO THOSE RIGHTS AND THEY CAN NOT ESCAPE PREGNANCY AND ITS LEGAL CONSEQUENCES WITHOUT IT. So which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:38 PM
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So then how else can pregnant people escape pregnancy and no longer be pregnant without a medical procedure? If there are alternatives that are not tied to pregnant people, but everyone can use them that should still include pregnant people as well so what are the alternatives? I understand evading the legal consequences of the pregnancy but for pregnant people that’s inherently tied to a medical procedure. Without the medical procedure they are legally on the hook for money owed to the hospital…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:33 PM
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So from this I take it you can’t list any alternatives for them to not be pregnant without having the medial procedure. Which would then mean the right is inherently tied to the medical procedure. So if you want to extend that right to others the medical procedure is an integral part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:19 PM
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So then how do pregnant people escape pregnancy and get to a point that they are no longer pregnant without a medical procedure. If there are alternatives beyond terminating the pregnancy that enable one to no longer be pregnant shouldn’t be hard to say what they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:16 PM
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You: Reproductive rights refer to escape from legal consequences. They are not tied to any medical procedures or biology. How else can people who can get pregnant escape pregnancy and no longer be pregnant if not for a medical procedure?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:10 PM
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So all the users of twitch are heterosexual males who out zero stock into looks? His looks definitely helped him as he’s not the best overwatch player. Funnily enough, if you look up the worlds best over watch players a few that won the overwatch world championship are listed. JJonak is the first result, he’s on twitch yet he’s not as famous on twitch as ninja is. I wonder why. When you compare the demographics they come from and compare it to okcupid dating stats on certain demographics it star…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:08 PM
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But it’s still tied to a medical procedure so the rights are for a medical procedure, not reproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:05 PM
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It’s not. It’s not pre-established or systematic. It’s random and unplanned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:02 PM
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People who can get pregnant don’t have them because they need a medical procedure to escape pregnancy and according to you it doesn’t count as reproductive rights if it’s tied to a medical procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:01 PM
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So then no one has them then. At least not after conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:55 PM
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According to your logic no one has reproductive rights as a medical procedure is inherent to escaping pregnancy for people who can get pregnant. So using your logic they don’t have the right to escape pregnancy, they have the right in some states to a medical procedure. It sounds like you were saying earlier one group of people has reproductive rights and the other does not. Now here it seems no one actually has them based on your logic. People just have appropriate medical procedure based on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:44 PM
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Ok so then people who can get pregnant don’t have the right to escape pregnancy either and never have. As them escaping pregnancy requires a medical procedure. So using your parameters they don’t have reproductive rights they have the right to a medical procedure(in some states). Who is the creator that endowed everyone’s non-existent rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:38 PM
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Some of them are just like some of the female twitch streamers are not. It depends on how good they look. Plus even the women who are allegedly famous for their looks have males in their comments calling them ugly all day long. So it seems a big reason why they’re famous for novelty and hate watching as well. Also to add. The number 1 twitch streamer is a conventionally attractive man. He’s 6’1 and in shape with a full head of hair and a decent jawline and clear skin. Yeah looking them up 3/4 of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:34 PM
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Not inherently. Not all pregnancies result in birth. So you can’t count them as one and the same unless it goes to completion and even still they’re judged on separate grounds. So TIL no one has reproductive rights and never has as not all reproductive rights extend to everyone. They all come with a biological caveat. Anyway if you can come up with a physical operation comparable to abortion I’d be glad to endorse that for people who can’t get pregnant but want to escape and unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:32 PM
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There are no legal consequences associated with pregnancy itself for people that are not pregnant. People that get pregnant bear all the costs, burden and benefits of pregnancy. Child support payments are not part of pregnancy or a legal consequence or pregnancy. They’re a consequence of birth. Which is why payments are not made while the child is in utero. Only after they’re born. Sounds like you’re asking how to avoid parenthood post birth. Just sign away your parental rights and ghost. Or don…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:17 PM
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Twitch(which men use more) it’s the opposite so what’s your point? https://www.kotaku.com.au/2021/10/only-three-per-cent-of-twitchs-top-earning-streamers-are-women-apparently/amp/ Also women get sponsored on Instagram for content that has more to do with their looks, it can be home decor, parenting advice, travel blogging etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:14 PM
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Termination is the only form of escape. How can you escape something that didn’t happen to you? If you’re not pregnant there’s nothing to escape because you’re not pregnant. Nothing has happened to your body. Anyone can escape an unwanted pregnancy as long as they’re pregnant and live somewhere that allows that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:11 PM
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Termination is escaping it. If you are pregnant and you live in a state that allows you to do so you can escape pregnancy. Men and women can both do that if they are pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:01 PM
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Kenneth petty is not top tier. He just played the king game and bagged a millionaire. In any case we are talking about handsome men not average or ugly men. The market for women is over saturated so you need to either be beautiful or put in copious amounts of work to be successful as a sugar baby or of. Men Jaír have to be hot and show up. They’re not even stigmatized for it. All the guys on only fans and no one is making fun or or chastising them for it. Being a hot guy is much better than bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:00 PM
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They are. If you are pregnant and live in a state that allows abortion you can terminate the pregnancy within the legally allowed parameters. Man or woman. If you are not pregnant you can’t terminate a pregnancy because there is nothing in your body to be extracted. The right to terminate a pregnancy is offered in some states to pregnant citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:58 PM
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We’re talking about reproductive rights and those are things that are tied to organs. Men can escape unwanted pregnancies if they are pregnant and live somewhere that allows it legally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:54 PM
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So then why don’t people without sperm have the right to decide who they do/don’t get pregnant? Why don’t people without sperm have the right to become parents painlessly for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:51 PM
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Many of them are. As I just expressed to you. Can someone without a uterus choose when to/when not to get pregnant? Can someone without sperm choose who to/who not impregnate? Everyone doesn’t have those rights. Those rights are two examples of things specifically tied to you biological make up. Men who can get pregnant can get out of an unwanted pregnancy. It’s not gender specific. It’s gamete/reproductive organ specific. Reproductive rights in the US are tailored that way. Men and women with u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:47 PM
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No do background checks to see what he came from and if it’s congruent with who he is now. A background check can give you more than just criminal information. You can find out where someone lived, who they lived with and from there you can find where they went to high school and check their social medias to see if there’s any old photos videos of the person you’re dating. Or at the very least what kind of stock, situation origins etc they came from. If it doesn’t match what they’re showing you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:43 PM
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A lot of them. Jeremy Meeks, Kenneth Petty, the ex boy toy of one of the kardashian sisters. If you’re open to men paying your bills too it’s even more likely to happen. Like this guy: https://www.insider.com/why-a-sugar-baby-stopped-2018-3 If you’re handsome and young and you put yourself out there as a sugar baby you’ll have someone paying your bills. If you’re not young you’ll have to actually date/marry them to get the same perks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:41 PM
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Certain reproductive rights are tied to having a uterus. If you don’t have one you can’t choose when to/not to give birth. Same with certain reproductive rights being tied to having testes and a penis. People without those will never have the right to choose who to/not to impregnate because they don’t have the biological tool set for that. It seems you’re miffed about the fact that you can’t be pregnant but there will probably be resources to remedy that soon as research into implanting uteruses…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:38 PM
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It does. It’s like this. If a woman doesn’t want a man who is fit and financially able to know anything about the child she has to ghost him too. Same here. You have the same reproductive rights as women. The only thing holding you back is your biology. You can’t decide who is/isn’t born because you don’t have a uterus. Men who have uteruses have that right though. So men and women have the same reproductive rights and have always had the same rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:31 PM
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I don’t follow a method when asking someone out. You just ask if they say yes, great. If not oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:29 PM
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How can you form a genuine loving connection with someone who doesn’t even know who you are. If I dress up a car with crappy internal parts so you’ll buy it. Was I sincere in trying to sell you a vehicle you’d like?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:29 PM
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The same way men see women. As sex or something to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:27 PM
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She would get crucified if men decided to crucify her. Whether or not they do so depends on how she looks and how the guy she was crushing on looks. If they weren’t looks matched and the guy was more attractive men would tear her a new one saying she’s delusional, he’s out of her league etc. If she was more attractive they’d encourage her to go for it. Women treat men the same way men treat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:25 PM
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You do have the right to escape an unwanted pregnancy. Lawyer up and dodge a paternity test. Jay Z did it and he’s not the first or last man to do so. Terpers don’t divulge anything to women anyway so all you’d have to do is just ghost. Not to mention if you live in the south you have the same ability to do that now as women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:22 PM
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No women assume that it makes no sense to blame women for the actions of your fellow men. The call is coming from inside the house. Sit down with each other and do something about it if you don’t like the way men are acting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:21 PM
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So then why not yell at men to vote more?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:20 PM
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Yes the narrative that those men clearly are not acting on womens behalf in a way that is beneficial to women if they are stripping womens rights. That negates what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:19 PM
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So they’re acting on the behalf of women by stripping Roe.V.Wade?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:18 PM
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Men do have reproductive rights. They just don’t have birthing rights unless they have wombs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:17 PM
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All you have to do is ask about his past or do a background check and dig for it yourself. Most men don’t do a scrub and burn where they delete all signs of their past and even if they did that’d be a red flag in and of itself that he’s hiding something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:16 PM
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It’s because women know what men say in those spaces, they know most men hate them and they don’t want to bothered with that. No one likes heartbreak and games and that’s what red pill and the manosphere advertise for any woman that gets involved with them. Which is great for men but not for women so that’s why women give it flack.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:14 PM
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They’re really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:10 PM
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Women find more than 5% of men attractive. Otherwise the sexlessness rates would be a lot higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:09 PM
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That is a sugar baby. It’s just an online only arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:08 PM
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Have they put themselves out there as sugar babies? I know a couple who have gotten them. One has a sugar mama the other had a fling with an older lady and she foot the bill for him to have a lavish summer that year.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:56 PM
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Women not wanting guys does not make it an unrealistic standard. They’re being realistic and honest with themselves and simply not dating men hey don’t find appealing physically or personality wise. Nothing wrong with that. No one “deserves” anything but their human rights. Average men don’t deserve women and women don’t deserve men. Women foregoing dating men they don’t want to date is perfectly fine and reasonable. Just as men doing the same is. You can get love from your friends and family. R…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:59 PM
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They are. Especially if they’re good looking. The poor men that suffer are the ones that are unattractive and low social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:55 PM
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Strength + technique will beat technique alone through.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:54 PM
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You could get that as a handsome man too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:54 PM
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I’d rather be a handsome man. It’s easier to maintain and you get way more perks. I’d be living life on easy mode. You can be promiscuous and still be respected. All you have to worry about is not getting an std and not getting anyone pregnant. It’s easier to find sexual partners who want to bottom. Handsome men get all the benefits of being a pretty woman with less of the downsides pretty women have, so that’s clearly the better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 02:52 PM
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They get it from women who marry poor men, they forget though there’s always a trade off. Poor men get loved for their looks and personality. So everyone needs to come with something.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:54 AM
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No gender has completely unrealistic standards, for both sexes what it ultimately boils down to is wanting a partner you enjoy being around and are attracted to. The benefits of a romantic partner can all be found outside of a romantic partner. Especially in developed societies where everything is commodified. Outside of cultural pressure you mostly see people depressed over being single if they don’t have quality platonic/familial relationships, hobbies etc. They’re looking for a partner to fil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:15 PM
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Ok and I who brought up the original point of the Madonna whore complex an me clarifying that I’m not talking exclusively about couple activities and I never was. “Sex acts” aren’t exclusive to things couples can do together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:47 PM
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I’m not looking for anything. I’m just stating reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:46 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:46 PM
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Loneliness is a problem when romantic love is hailed above all. In a society like that you’ll feel like a failure if you don’t find it and you’ll be deeply lonely and demotivated. In a culture where that’s not the case you may be sexually frustrated but you’ll know platonic and familial love are just as valid to stave off loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:46 PM
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I never said anything about the sex acts being couple specific. You inserted that. All I said was that many men will happily engage in certain sex acts while single with women they don’t care about yet they wouldn’t seriously date a women who was into those same things nor would they push their partners into those same things. So by your own admission we’re not having the same conversation as I’m talking about sex acts as whole. Not just ones relegated to couples. I’m talking the full shebang th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:28 AM
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No I went from asking why average men having little chance with average women is a problem to asking why not getting dates easily is a problem. Both of those things are along the same vein. If they have little chance w/average women it’s safe to assume they’re not getting many dates with them. Unless you’re purporting that they’re getting a lot of dates w/average women despite having little chance with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:26 AM
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Doesn’t excuse them not putting effort into the sex they are having.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:24 AM
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Yet most men have relationships and sex. So if their partner isn’t coming it’s just because they don’t care. The fact that the gap lessens from casual sex to LTRs bolsters this. They have little interest in the pleasure of a woman they’re not emotionally invested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:24 AM
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I think it’s option one when you look at homosexuals. Women come just fine when with other women. If it was an issue of womens biology you’d see similarly low rates for lesbians yet that’s not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:23 AM
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I’m not just talking about loneliness. I’m talking about people being made to feel like failures, outcasts etc because they’re single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:29 AM
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With younger women it definitely is. Younger millennials and gen z are more apt to speak up for themselves and leave situations that don’t serve them. Where women still fall short is not kicking men out when it sucks. What happens more often than not is they’ll voice their needs and give direction but the guy doesn’t listen or complains it’s too much work so she finishes the act and then ghosts or keeps trying hoping he’ll come around. This is the part women need to work on. They voice their nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:12 AM
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It is a 1:1 comparison especially when you compare how straight men and women fair compared to their homosexual counterparts. It’s just straight women that are missing out so blaming biology is a poor excuse. Men are having more orgasms because their female partners put at least some effort into ensuring they do. Also you can argue quality but a less intense orgasm is still better than no orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:09 AM
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And plenty of people don’t get into relationships for a reason and there’s others that can’t. That’s not a bad thing and there should be no shame in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:34 AM
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Should be ok with everyone. There’s nothing wrong with being single and it doesn’t make you any less of a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:47 AM
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Anal is not common and it can be quite dangerous if you’re not well prepared/experienced as a top. I’ll give an example of what I mean. Gangbanging/running a train. A lot of men would happily participate in that if single however the list of those who’d date a girl that did that will shrink and most won’t pressure a girl they actually like into doing something like that. It’s the Madonna whore complex, something they can enjoy as a single man is off-putting when it comes to LTR. The last bit isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:46 AM
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You’re not subhuman. Leisure/entertainment is a part of life too. Are you subhuman if you can’t afford a yacht? I’m guessing you mean romantic relationships only? Cause no sex, friends and hobbies would still be a full life to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:42 AM
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I’m not sugar coating it. I’m telling it to you straight. There’s some things in life some people will never have no matter how much they want it. Instead of beating yourself up over what you don’t have and letting envy consume you, focus on the good you do have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:42 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:41 AM
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You’re not a lesser human. Not everyone will find love, good sex or any sex at all. Just like not everyone will be billionaires. If you truly gave it a good go and it still didn’t happen for you that’s ok. Being single is also perfectly valid and you’re still valuable as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:31 AM
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So stop asking them for it and stop talking to them about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:27 AM
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It works as in you can get dates and get girlfriends. They’re just not the quality/kind you want. As they’re there for the money, not genuine desire and attraction for you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:12 AM
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Which is very human just try not to focus on it too much. It can be unhealthy if you let it get too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:08 AM
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Based on your other comments it seems it does work it’s just unfulfilling to you because there’s no genuine desire. Sounds like op was just vouching for this as a method of getting sex/attracting interest from women, but not for the quality of said sex/attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:49 AM
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Based on your other comments it seems it does work it’s just unfulfilling to you because there’s no genuine desire. Sounds like op was just vouching for this as a method of getting sex/attracting interest from women, but not for the quality of said sex/attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:49 AM
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This is why single shaming needs to go away. Everyone won’t find love and that’s ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:37 AM
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Women can do it publicly and gain support. They get support from other women. Men pushback with the exception of the male version of pick mes. Same as in reverse when men publicly disparage the sexual skills of women they get push back from women minus the pick mes. In private with your friends is one thing. But good luck convincing the world that women are as shitty at sex. The prevailing narrative is it's all men's fault. The world probably doesn’t believe it because of data on orgasms by sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:36 AM
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I never said there was a conspiracy. Just pointing out facts. Straight women orgasm the least out of any group. Women clearly care enough as women are able to get off men and women at decent rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:56 AM
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If they’re not violent and/or the violent ones are dealt with swiftly their existence isn’t really a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:54 AM
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I don’t hate men. I just don’t see why not getting dates easily is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:53 AM
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Most are having sex though and they can talk to their partners and pay attention to their reactions to gauge what they like sexually. Most don’t care enough to do that if they’re not emotionally invested in the woman though. At best if they’re desperate to keep her coming back they’ll make sure it’s not painful super uncomfortable but most men feel it’s too much work to make it actually pleasurable unless they’re head over heels for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:53 AM
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I guess. It’s just a mindset difference. Imo radical acceptance is the way to go sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:09 AM
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I’m reading it correctly. Among sexually active adults straight women have the least amount of orgasms and gay men have the most lesbian women and straight men fall in between. People who are celibate aren’t included in the data. As it’s about orgasms during sex. I don’t think it’s inexperience or malice. It’s apathy. Most men don’t care that much to get a woman off unless they’re emotionally invested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:08 AM
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There’s online dating, plastic surgery, matchmakers or lowering your standards but those generally aren’t looked upon too favorably by shorter men either so idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:54 AM
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They go into it hoping it will be good but often end up disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:43 AM
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Women ask for it as well. Doesn’t mean it will always be given. What women need to start doing though is kicking out men that say no and getting guns in case he doesn’t want to leave quickly and willingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:42 AM
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They do. Look at the gap between lesbians and straight women vs gay men and straight men. The gap among women is wider. Than the gap among men. So mutual understanding due to shared sex isn’t a good excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:41 AM
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There’s stats on it. Look at the orgasm gap by gender/sexuality. Women who sleep with men have the least amount of orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:40 AM
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Since always. To be fair they may not all do it consciously though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:39 AM
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Just look at orgasm stats. Everyone is getting a fairly decent amount of orgasms except for straight women. I’m bisexual as well and when it comes to casual relationships anyway women are a lot more willing to give sexually/foreplay. There’s no natural talent in either but there’s at least a willingness to try. LTRs it evens out a bit though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:38 AM
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Men complain about bad sex all the time. Good, bad ugly they’ll talk about it with their friends. Same as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:36 AM
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So then this bolsters the point that they’re better at foreplay for the simple fact that they’re more willing to engage it in. Nature vs nurture doesn’t change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:34 AM
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It’s probably the latter. In other cities you’ll see couples that are mismatched in terms of looks. LA generally is not one such city. So if he’s only looking at couples with hot women he’s not going to notice the looks matched couples that are average and below.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:32 AM
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Because of the risk vs rewards of sex for women. If they’re going to do it they want to make sure the pay off will be worth their while. For most women there’s not point entertaining a man sexually or romantically unless the pay off is at least better than her being single. If the perks of dating that man are not better than if she passed on him, she’s going to pass on him. TBF though the standards you listed aren’t really necessary unless your type is hot successful women. If you’re going for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:27 AM
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You basically said so yourself with the comment about this method not working? Unless you think there’s other options for you besides beta buxxing or using proximity/familiarity to your advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:25 AM
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Why is it a problem that average men have little chance with average women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:24 AM
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I think it’s for guys that wouldn’t be helped much by working out, grooming etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:23 AM
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They get those things because they bring more to the table than their looks. Average women can’t rely on their looks to get them good sex, good treatment and commitment from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:22 AM
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They can’t. Using just your looks isn’t going to result in getting orgasmic sex or a decent relationship you need to come with a lot more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:21 AM
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Most guys do. They’ll open right out of the gate with that stuff with a woman they don’t care about. When they do care though they move differently. They’re not as sexually aggressive, they don’t lay out their kinks right away especially if they’re embarrassed, they’re more reciprocal and caring about the woman’s pleasure etc. It’s why you’ll see a guy that participated in a gangbang not want to date a girl who did one and he wouldn’t necessarily push his girlfriend or wife to do one either if h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:07 AM
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Unless they’re holding the men hostage they have full license to walk away if they don’t want to date those women and meet their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:05 AM
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Hard disagree. Men will admit it themselves. How they treat women and what they’re willing to do with them varies by how they view her. If he has a kink he’s ashamed about he’ll explore it with a pump and dump but not a woman he cares about. They’ll hide that side for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:03 AM
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Nah some stuff they save for hookups because it ruins the image of their partner they have in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:44 AM
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Their only preference is money. As for everyone else they don’t know how to quit when they’re ahead. If you feel the heat make your own site and use Reddit to direct traffic there rather than waiting until they make good on their threats and actually ban or quarantine you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:39 AM
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Wow. Must be a small country then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:36 AM
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It was. They just got out the pot before it finished boiling is all. If they had continued on they would’ve been quarantined and they cite that as a reason on their website for why they made it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:36 AM
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To be honest I don’t care one way or the other how people choose to manage their sexual lives. I just think more people should pair up with those who fit what they want and they should be less judgmental about others benign behaviors. Since if everyone feels comfortable to share what they want, it makes it easier for everyone to pair up with like minded individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:01 AM
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That is what they’re saying though. “And will be far less pushy with women they intend to commit to” What they’re saying, what you and what I said are all in agreement. When men genuinely like a woman they typically will be less pushy for sex and will be more patient and receptive to allowing her to set the pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:58 PM
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Exactly if she pushes for it. He won’t push her like he would with a woman he only wants for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:37 PM
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Because they get mad at women for doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:37 PM
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You didn’t give a straight answer to their q either. You deflected to nature vs answering yes or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:36 PM
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Notice what you said: if SHE initiated or was Receptive to advances. Bolsters the point they’re less sexually pushy and demanding if they like the girl outside of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:34 PM
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It’s the Madonna whore complex. Another aspect of it they’ll do all their most taboo sexual fantasies with the “whore” but not with the Madonna. They wouldn’t date girls who are into stuff like that long term. Then complain about dead bedrooms and their lack of an exciting sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:33 PM
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The point is to refocus your energy away from something that’s not happening for you. Realistically if you’re unattractive, unappealing and have no options there’s nothing most people can or will do for you beyond giving you advice on how to improve unattractive characteristics and maybe introducing you to some potentials. So if you’re so hopeless and unattractive that absolutely no one wants you instead of saying that directly people will advise you to focus your energy on other things, “love y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:28 PM
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AFAIK they just made their own website.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:22 PM
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Why does it matter if their options are realistic or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:19 PM
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Must be because it doesn’t make any sense. Men here express all manner of unsavory views towards women yet complain if anyone chastises them and they take it as an infringement on their right to free speech. Just do the same here. If you don’t like what they say don’t date women like that and don’t go in their spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:18 PM
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So then don’t date them? You know men have autonomy and free will and can turn down these type of women right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:16 PM
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Lots of men is not most men. Look up the median and average wages of American men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:15 PM
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Yet you made a whole post about their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:14 PM
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They typically specify that they’re talking about the west or America when they bring up that figure for height. Or the context of the post does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:14 PM
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What you’re missing is that there’s a level of men beyond this that can get casual sex from beautiful women as well. I believe manosphere calls them “giga-Chad”. What you’re describing is just slightly above average men with game. They’re good looking but not enough so to pull hot women. They can sleep with lots of average looking women or below. However there are men who are even more physically attractive than that who have women all along the looks spectrum flocking to them. Those kind of men…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:12 PM
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1 million is a bit small for a city so maybe that’s why. In big cities like New York, LA etc hot men can run through women hot, average or otherwise like water while they’re in their prime(18-40) once they get older they need to pair money and status with it to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:09 PM
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It is that easy for them. The ones under 40 anyway. That’s why you see them get married so late if ever at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:08 PM
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So reject them? I’m not seeing the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:07 PM
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They did get the AX
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:06 PM
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Asking why someone cares is addressing the substance of the post. What’s the real issue with them having high standards? Why is that a problem? Who does that impact apart from themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:05 PM
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What’s the point? That their business at the end of the day. They’re free to go for what they want whether or not they succeed is a different story and they have to deal with the consequences of that. If you don’t like their message don’t engage with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:04 PM
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I get it met through friends mostly. Family as well. I’ve built up good bonds with my friends especially over the years so I can always go to them if I ever feel lonely, need a hug or whatever else. For sexual needs I take care of that myself but if I need want to I have people I can call to give me head or let me peg them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:01 PM
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No arguments there. My only contention is that it makes no sense to blame older womens dating choices for older mens preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:35 AM
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u/TodTheRod01 I never trolled you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:07 PM
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It all adds to the problem. Older men can't date those age ranges when most of them don't even have a desire for sex or dating anymore, so they must go down to younger age groups of women. Those women’s availability or lack thereof for dating isn’t the reason for older men dating younger women. Mens preferences don’t age with them. Those older men would be looking for young women even if older women were flocking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:53 PM
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You don’t understand what I’m saying at all and the arguments you were making shows that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:39 PM
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I understand perfectly what you’re saying. However I don’t think you knew what I was referring to from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 12:14 AM
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If it were that "easy" all men would be smooth with women and be players....yet women CONSTANTLY complain men are not smooth...think about it logically...there are books, youtube channels, seminars etc on how to talk to women and pick up on this stuff...so its clearly not easy. Men aren’t smooth when they are picking up women by approaching first. However a woman coming and approaching them or their friend, most can tell if she’s flirting or not. That media is for men who don’t get hit on much b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:28 PM
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You can also feel free to make your own spaces. The options currently are stay in left wing spaces and deal w/pushback logical or illogical, make your own spaces or go to right wing spaces. People aren’t going to stop shaming others online anytime soon. So the next step is to figure out what you want to do about it. If you just want to vent that’s your business but if you’re expecting actual change to come about you’ll be waiting a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:33 PM
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for REAL introverts dealing with people sucks life/energy out of them.... Then it doesn’t matter whether women approach them first or not. Also you're not mixing in being introverted with socially calibrated, and being able to detect when women flirt...which MANY men will tell you is hard to tell. Many men will also tell you it’s easy. Once you know what to look for it’s no longer hard to detect. An introvert in essence would be at a disadvantage in that they have to go out and deal with people …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:30 PM
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I do. However, some compromise has to be made. Women can’t approach men they never see. If you don’t want to start the convo that’s fine. You don’t even have to be the life of the party. Just visible and approachable enough that they’ll come to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:49 PM
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I didn't chastise anybody for having kids at an older age. So you continue your streak of making irrelevant points. Once again proving my point that you came into the conversation half-way and got confused. The person I was replying to made a comment about how he doesn’t approve of still fertile women having kids at advanced ages. So I inquired if he has the same standards for men. Advanced meaning in comparison to their peers in their peak fertile windows. He answered and gave context to his vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:47 PM
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If the moms don’t leave. Or she’s not around the daughters sometimes grow up and cut ties themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:44 PM
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Only if the kids don’t look like them, but that’s the same for most demographics of women. If the kids don’t look like you they’ll assume you kidnapped them or you’re the nanny depending on how the interaction is going at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:42 PM
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Funny but there’s not much more I can flesh out as female flirting seems quite obvious to me. Even introverted men that fumbled a few times usually pick up on what’s going on by at least the 4-5th woman that approaches him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:41 PM
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Exactly! Some couples it works for them others it doesn’t. The good thing about people that post sexy pics online though is it’s public and you can see so you have that information available to you before you decide to get into a committed relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:39 PM
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Funny you accuse me of circumventing when I listed more than 2 different possibilities. 1) A woman who was like that while single who still does it in a relationship. 2)The “I’m sexy and I know it” people don’t have to have been that way due to gym profess. I’d say half are and the other half are people that are just exceptionally attractive naturally(or surgically too who knows) that like to post about it. The only unifying factor is that they know they look good and they like to show it off fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:38 PM
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Do you only have sons or do you have a daughter?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:45 PM
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That’s usually the case for men who have sons and daughters in the same house. Especially when the kids become adolescents and become more aware. They start seeing that their dads teachings are incongruous. If women should not be respected why let sis do xyz. Now there’s a dilemma he either has to renege on his teaching of not disrespecting women or double down and make an example out of his daughter. For girls with fathers like that, it’s often the latter that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:45 PM
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Once again: “From this seems my suspicions were correct about you joining a discussion and not understanding what’s going on then going off based on your assumption. Mens and women’s fertility decreasing with age does not mean they have the same challenges(which is what you seem to assume I was implying). However it’s been documented that both do face challenges when deciding to procreate at an advanced age(in comparison) to other members of their sex. Which is why I brought up the double standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:38 PM
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They are though. It even shows in culture how people refer to dads as “babysitting their kids” as if those aren’t also his kids who he is responsible for rearing and caring for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:37 PM
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They’re complaining about it to other women. Not men. Men just listen in on the conversation as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:36 PM
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If you’re attractive, successful and an introvert all you have to do is go outside and know when women are flirting with you and how to flirt back. The knowing when women are flirting and how to reciprocate is what truly ruins it for most introverted men because the women think they’re being “red lighted” and don’t take things further.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:35 PM
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That’s their business. Usually they were like that while single so that’s just what they like. If you know that’s a boundary you would be uncomfortable with don’t date someone who does that. Those women usually date men who also post half naked pics of themselves online as well. They’re just the “I’m sexy and I know it” kind of people. They may have worked hard in the gym for their figures too and want to show it off. Everyone likes compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:33 PM
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That is true. It’s not a specific situation. It’s a common situation for women and data on the orgasm gap backs that up. They’re less likely to orgasm from a casual hookup than men. They’re also much more likely to orgasm from a longer term arrangement than a simple hookup. So if you’re a woman and a man wants to have sex with you. It’s a high chance the sex will suck and you’ll get nothing out of it unless he’s also interested in you outside of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:28 PM
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Where are the words “biological clock” in there. If this is the best you can do oh boy. You make an accusation yet can’t back it up. From this seems my suspicions were correct about you joining a discussion and not understanding what’s going on then going off based on your assumption. Mens and women’s fertility decreasing with age does not mean they have the same challenges(which is what you seem to assume I was implying). However it’s been documented that both do face challenges when deciding t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:26 PM
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If I said it quote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:45 PM
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Please quote me to exactly where I said women do not have biological clocks. If you actually read any of my comments with the intention of comprehension you’d see the stipulation of “pre-menopause” mentioned frequently. The risks may be low to you but to others they’re not. Some wouldn’t want to risk being a young widower, increasing the risk of disorders, or leaving behind fatherless children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:32 PM
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Men can father children until the day they die. They produced sperm for their entire lives. Not without risk and it becomes increasingly difficult to do as they age, sperm count and testosterone drops. You're fighting biological science as we speak. Seems you’re confused. Which nobody was talking about.....except you. Me and the person I replied to. Then you jumped in with a tangential point. nobody was talking about. If you show up late and don’t know what’s going on, that doesn’t change what h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:52 PM
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If he’s using you for sex then you’re not going to get the benefits of sex. So it’s a pointless endeavor. You’d be better of masturbating. Thank you for answering the q. That’s what makes it annoying for women as well. Lack if reciprocity if it’s enjoyable for them as well they don’t mind, if it’s not they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:46 PM
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No. If they don’t hate men they’ll settle with a man that can keep up with their sexual pace if they choose to settle at all. The main thing is they’re having sex for pleasure. Their feelings towards men overall, positive, negative, neutral fall along the same distribution as women who aren’t having a lot of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:34 PM
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Nope. I’m saying and said that if a woman doesn’t like men she’s not going to settle down with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 09:56 AM
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They wouldn’t settle with betas or anyone really if they don’t like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 09:22 AM
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Maybe. My point is, if you want to express certain views unchallenged that’s one place you can go.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 08:44 AM
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Its not about convenience it’s about reality. It’s supply and demand. Right wing talking points are popular in areas where right wing beliefs are popular with the population. Left wing talking points popular in areas where left wing beliefs are popular with the population in the area. Idk where you live but you clearly have fairly unfiltered internet access and one of the perks of that is being able to curate your time online to what you want to see politically and socially. Also if you’re right…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:03 AM
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I didn't say that it was. I said it can have mutual pleasure When people are avoiding the sex. It’s because they know it’s a high chance there will not be mutual pleasure. For whatever reason. No not nessesarily. Because you still have the added benefits I also mentioned in the other comment. You don’t have those added benefits if they’re using you. When someone is using another for something the point is for them to extract benefits while giving nothing in return. So there will be no sexual ple…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:59 AM
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Exactly! That’s a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:56 AM
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They don’t?? It’s as valid as calling men with sexual hardships incels. Bullshit! Anything not left leaning gets censored, what a crock of shit! They get censored on left leaning websites and media outlets. If you don’t like it feel free to use right wing social media like parlor, 4chan or st*rmfront. It doesn’t make sense to go to an apple farm then complain there’s not enough oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:45 AM
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Nope. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:42 AM
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Mutual sex is not mutual pleasure and that fact is the reason for the lack of appeal and why people wanting to use you for sex is not better than people wanting to use you for money. Take it like this. Spending lots of time and money on someone you’re not sleeping with isn’t fun. However if they spend the same amount of time and money on your or more it doesn’t sting as much because there’s reciprocity. It’s the same with sex. The lack of reciprocity means there’s a lack of mutual benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:38 AM
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Because if the guy doesn’t care about you it’s not Pleasurable. It’s irritating at best and painful at worst. It’s also overall an awkward waste of time. It’s why most women look for more. If the guy genuinely likes you he’ll care to make sex pleasurable for you. Of course you can always get around this by pegging them vs letting them penetrate you but idk how many women are into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:34 AM
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Just as men say “women live life on easy mode” whenever women bring up their issues. The internet is the wild Wild West. Some things said here may ruffle your feathers but that’s life. Tread on and say what you need to say or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:27 AM
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Older men don't have any biological barriers to having kids. This is objectively true and you hate it so you try to fight it. They do and someone already did the work for me quoting the facts for you. Fight what? I don’t have a dog in it. Just stating reality. We're talking 30s and 40s. I very clearly said 55+. The age you listed women can still have kids as well as long as they didn’t hit menopause so what’s your point? The double standard is biological. So of course it makes no sense to delude…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:24 AM
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Firstly that’s a terrible way to describe children as you know, it’s actually kind of rewarding. Having two incomes IS THE PROBLEM! When women flooded the labor force in the 70s is when wage stagnation began, coincidence I think not. It’s more of what the parents “want” as a “lifestyle.” Poor people in this country drive cars and have cell phones, pretty sure most children have a decent standard of living at a minimum. It’s not a terrible way to describe them it’s the reality. Just making sure t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:22 AM
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How is marriage “stressful and suffocating” seems like to me you only really care about yourself given everything you’ve said. I care about my friends and family as well. I just know my limits. Most men expect you to live with them post marriage so now your private space is gone. If you ever want to come home and decompress is complete solitude and silence you can’t do that without them taking it too personally after a while. However when you stay unmarried you have more of an excuse to live apa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:22 AM
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Testing Edit I guess my comment was too long so I’ll break it up into parts. Why have a “relationships” for only companionship, just have friends. Because I want to the romantic and sexual aspect as well. The romantic aspect is something but it has no purpose without children….you see, children is something two people who have children will ALWAYS have in common even if they didn’t marry. Something doesn’t have to have a purpose in order for one to do it. It could just be done because it’s enjoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:20 AM
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Men do face biological barriers the older they are. They increase the risk of certain mental health conditions in their child and if they’re older 55-60 they’ve most likely deprived their kids of the chance to have a fit healthy father/grandfather that survives to see them reach all their major milestones. So the double standard makes no sense. Unless you’re trying to have 6+ kids all a woman needs to do is keep herself in good health, keep up with her healthcare providers wishes and start tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:57 AM
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Sure you can but the relationships literally have no purpose in that case, without marriage and children to bind a couple together under a common goal, what’s the point. Companionship is the goal. Same reason people have friends. It’s just with the extra added layer of sexual/romantic intimacy whether short or long term. Tell me, what’s better a committed spouse and children of your own or a series of pointless relationships, hook up and flings? The answer says a lot about you. Neither of the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:54 AM
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I didn’t assume one way or the other where you where going with that point. Which is why I asked to see if you keep the same standard regardless of sex or if you have a double standard. Everyone has their varying opinions on it. Personally for me 40 is the cut off for me. Ideally under 35. However if some has a kid at 35-40 I’m not going to judge too much because that’s still young enough where they can live to see their kids and grandkids and be an active parent and grandparent so long as they …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:11 PM
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Yep. I saw it with my own mother as well as many other women. It made me think twice about having bio kids. I’d rather not have kids and regret that, than have kids and then regret having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:01 PM
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Your risk also goes down if you don’t marry within certain professions, didn’t engage in certain behavior pre-maritally etc. However not everyone does their due diligence. So it’s at least beneficial to tell them to wait until they’ve developed themselves as an adult. The other things you mention will consequently follow because allowing themselves time to mature will result in them knowing who they are and what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:01 PM
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Do you have this same level of concern for men who start families over the age of 40? Plus I’m not advocating to start having kids 40 and beyond. 30-35 is also a reasonable age to have them and still be young enough to survive to see your grandkids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:58 PM
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I gave you the truth. Women are not a monolith. Some require looks only others require more. So first I’d need to know your type to give a more in depth answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:57 PM
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You can have relationships and kids without ever being married. A growing number of people are becoming disillusioned with marriage and it’s pitfalls. Same with having kids. If you freeze your eggs 30-35 is still feasible to have children if you want them, just make sure you get off hormonal birth control well before that and see a fertility specialist about maximizing your options in that age cohort.Adoption/fostering is also an option as well if you want kids that bad. The women on mommy regre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:55 PM
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First sentence did that. Read again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:37 PM
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Only if you want the tradcon life. However if that’s what a woman wants she wouldn’t be dating around or be too engaged in the secular world in the first place. If that’s not what you want prioritizing men isn’t the answer. Focusing on figuring out who you are as a person and what you want is better. Whether or not you marry will be of less consequence to you and if you do it’s more likely to last as you’ve given yourself time to grow as an adult and figure yourself out. Any relationship you sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:36 PM
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Didn’t change much or didn’t change at all? If in your mind you think it’s better to be an overweight while dating than in shape that’s your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:33 PM
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I disagree I think women should deprioritize finding a husband. Marriage under 30 has an increased risk of divorce. So if you want a happy lasting marriage it’s probably not in your best interest to rush and find someone when you’re still just starting out in the adult world. This should be especially true if you don’t want kids. If you do you can always freeze your eggs. If you keep your body in good health and condition the chances of you getting pregnant may be lower once you’re over 40 but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:11 PM
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Well you need either a high prestige job or a lot of money to have status and the guy in your example has neither. One is a low status good looking guy and the other is incompetent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:18 PM
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Outside of the downsides he was very sweet and kind and it was fun talking to him once he warmed up. I just weighed the pros and cons and realized the effort of catching him up on stuff he should’ve already learned was too much for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:00 PM
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Overweight is overweight. Shed the fat and you’ll do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:32 AM
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It’s both or neither depending on the type of woman and what she’s looking for. Figure out what your niche of woman wants and go from there. However everyone wants to be attracted to their partner. Whether they want you to have more than just looks or not will vary though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:31 AM
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I doubt it’s about street cred. Among their rich peers they all already know what it is. So it seems silly to lie to less affluent people. Plus the lies usually fall apart quickly anyway when they let something slip that shows they’re out of touch with most peoples financial realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:01 AM
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I answered this Q that you asked to another commenter so I’ll copy and paste my reply just give me a minute. Edit: Response “Because they’re of the belief that all men have the propensity to cheat. They base it off experiences of marriages they’ve seen and their own relationships with men(average guys or ugly guys they did “charity work for”) who they thought wouldn’t cheat but still did. No one is really surprised when a hot high status guy cheats even if his partner hoped he wouldn’t. However …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:58 AM
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If NYC rich kids are anything to go by plenty would still care lol. They get so offended when you insinuate they had a things handed to them. They’ll try to cosplay as if they’re poor and struggling and had to work hard to get to where they are knowing full well nepotism worked in their favor. Which never made sense to me, if your parents did their job and helped you get ahead why be embarrassed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:41 AM
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Yeah I honestly suspect a lot of men are in that boat but we’ll never know for sure unless they lose the weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:37 AM
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I honestly I wish it was a joke. However, as I said when I met his family it made sense why he was like that. I thought he was screwing with me at first, like a weaponized incompetence type of deal. Then I started thinking maybe he was on the spectrum. After meeting his family though I realized he literally just grew up in a house where he literally didn’t have to do anything but the dishes every once in a while, he also was introverted and grew up in a small town in the Midwest. So he wasn’t do…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:36 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:32 AM
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Because they’re of them belief that all men have the propensity to cheat. They base it off experiences of marriages they’ve seen and their own relationships with men(average guys or ugly guys they did “charity work for”) who they thought wouldn’t cheat but still did. No one is really surprised when a hot high status guy cheats even if his partner hoped he wouldn’t. However average Andy who pined after his girl for years? Most don’t see that coming and women who experienced that go through an “al…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:30 AM
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They don’t think that though. Unless they’re explicitly and openly claimed as a girlfriend the women say they’re in a “situationship” not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:30 AM
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“All men cheat” means men are as loyal as their options. So a man may not be faithful because of his morals, he’s only seemingly faithful because his attempts at cheating are rebuffed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:40 PM
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If they’re not exclusive they’re not in a relationship. So those women are not “taken” they even have different terms to signify these things. Hookups vs. Situationship vs Relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:39 PM
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Then the cycle of life continues and another man makes a slut out of your once virgin wife. Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:38 PM
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That doesn’t translate to “most” though. 5-25% of women being in soft harems would be enough to cause a shift. However that’s not the same as most women being in a soft harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:37 PM
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Most women aren’t thinking that far. It’s because they’re looking for more and knowing you’re just approaching any girl signals to them you’re just looking for any warm hole that says yes. It’s like this. Imagine this a woman gives you the best blow job of your life and then cooks you a delicious meal right after, it’d make you feel nice until you find out you were guy number 4 she did it for that day. Then it doesn’t feel as nice and you might even be grossed out. Similar thing here. You can ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:36 PM
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I’m glad you enjoyed the read lol🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:22 PM
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-How to do the laundry in the machine of our apartment. They were older machines and he would always over fill it and it would never wash and dry all the way. So I told him to only fill the washers and dry 3/4 of the way no more than that and to only use 2 laundry pods per load. -Then I wrote down a bunch of recipes because he didn’t know how to cook. As well as how to use the rice cooker, panini press and other kitchen appliances. -How to clean everything and what certain cleaning products are …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:21 PM
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Good for you. Many others aren’t in that boat so the choices are put up with it or end things. Me personally I’d rather just avoid it all together and never live together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:05 PM
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A lot of men could literally just lose weight and be fine. They have nice faces and a good height that’s smothered under pound of fat. If they dropped it they’d be much more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:04 PM
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Depends on where you’re starting point is. Most Americans are overweight and from what I’ve read it’s becoming a problem in other countries too. So many could clear the attractive hurdle by just losing weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:39 PM
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What do you mean you don’t? You just said you do most of the housework besides cooking lol? You can try to hold someone accountable but it’s up to them if they want to listen. Worst case I’ve ever seen a friend of mine decided to just stop cleaning. She cleaned the apartment spotless one last time then only started picking up after herself. Her boyfriend let the place get so filthy it was crazy. Some people just don’t like cleaning. You can tell them u til you’re blue in the face but it’s up to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:37 PM
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So true. They may have good bone structure but you can’t see it under all the fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:28 PM
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Yes I dated a couple. Ex #1 He was an incel before he met me and he’d often say it in so many words. For example he’d always be inquiring about my dating experiences, how much attention I got from men, how long it would take him to get matches on OLD(9-12 months per match) and how they’d never pan out to anything until he met me always comparing and contrasting. He seemed nice enough and we had similar hobbies so I gave it a shot but it became stale fast. I felt like I was raising him to be hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:25 PM
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They don’t care to or need to understand. Many of the younger generation are prepared to die unmarried and childless. As long as they continue to have solid social experiences and can still get satisfying relationship experiences(short or long term) there’s no incentive to understand those who do not understand you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:49 PM
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They’re not. They just want someone they find sexually attractive who they can get along with and enjoy being around. If a guy clears those two bars then the income requirement isn’t a strenuous. He just has to be self sufficient. Even if they were too high, it wouldn’t benefit men for them to be lowered unless female sexually and what they found genuinely sexually desirable changed as a whole. If women just relaxed their and gave chances to men they don’t find particularly attractive. Men would…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:48 PM
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Under 30 most of them are masculine. Some of them are more masc than others but the majority fall somewhere on the masc scale. Average male height is still taller than female, height, most are stoic want to be in the dominant role and I’d say they’re moderate to deep pitched. I rarely come across men with high voices. Now you can argue that maybe they’re pretending their voice isn’t high but eventually you’ll slip up and your real voice would come out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:14 PM
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None about housework. There may still be arguments about other things. However housework will be a non issue since both people have their own space.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:11 PM
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Not necessarily. It’s a lot harder to get them to pick up that you want to sleep with them. Men in general may not get hints but usually you can get them to understand that you want to sleep with them with flirting and escalation without having to spell it out. Fem men you need to spell it out and even then they may ask you why you want to sleep w/them or something. However once you cross that hurdle it’s the same as any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:09 PM
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Masculine men are the majority and a dime a dozen. They’re the easiest men to get sexually and romantically because most men are that or at the very least pretend to be and heavily pursue being that. It’s other factors that determine how hard or easy a man is to get. Like wealth and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:45 PM
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Practice is important sure but those targets are not nearly the same as shooting at live people. Some ranges have moving targets but their movements are very unnatural and the targets don’t attack you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:41 PM
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That happens when you date someone too long period. They become familiar and comfortable. However at the very least there’ll be no arguments about housework because you’re both up keeping your own homes as you see fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:40 PM
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So then as I thought perks of cohabitation are all Bs. Someone ends up doing all the housework when you live together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:34 AM
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I don’t think anyone is surprised that most people find sexual dimorphism attractive. If this wasn’t the case various sexualities(gay, straight, bi, lesbian) etc wouldn’t exist. Everyone would just be bisexual and the only determining factor in whether someone chose to exclusively date males or females would be how much work they’re willing to put in to avoid reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:33 AM
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Unless you got the drop on them a gun wouldn’t help much either in that case. It’s harder to hit multiple moving targets. If you did have the drop on them you could get rid of them one by one with a gun or a knife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:21 AM
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You’re also not reading what I’m saying. I literally just said yes. However since that’s not possible I compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:20 AM
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u/AgentFillmore If men stopped competing over success the world would come to a stand still. Enjoy living in fairy land tho, lmk when ur back to reality Oh well, if that happens it is what it is. Better than men going crazy because they’re obsessing over women needlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:00 AM
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In many of them you still do. Just not with a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:57 PM
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By choice bolsters what you’re already asking. I said explicitly I would take the trade and brought up the fact that I already do that currently to corroborate my claim. Being a man is fun and people don’t bother you for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:56 PM
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She doesn’t have to be completely unattractive she just has to be outside of his type.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:59 PM
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Ok but other countries are even more liberal than the US and they don’t have this issue because of their gun control laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:56 PM
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If you disagree then tell me, if a man were to date a woman and were to lead her on for years, dropping hints that he'll give her commitment or even marriage while using her for sex and dropping her the moment he finds a woman that he actually wants, is that not manipulation? Since he didn't explicitly promise her commitment? Men claim this is not manipulation and that they just changed their mind about the woman they didn’t marry or that they stayed with her in the hopes that she’d change X tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:46 PM
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They claim to be so more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:43 PM
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It depends on how things went down. In either case ge doesn’t owe her anything just like she doesn’t owe him anything. However if the man approached under the guise of friendship but then really was after something else all along or he developed feelings over time I can see how she’d be hurt. She’d be grieving the loss of someone she cared about. However, again he doesn’t owe her anything and a “friendship” dynamic like that can quickly become toxic so it’s best to leave it alone. Women do know …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:35 PM
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Men don’t have an entirely different view. Men are not a monolithic hive mind. There’s a lot of men that have zero attraction to their female friends for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:34 PM
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I would and personally I do when it benefits me. I’ll dress like a raggedy guy when I don’t want any attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:25 PM
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You’re not a slave to your biology. If you’re aware of it you can negate or mitigate its effect on you. You can call it condescending if you want but I’m just realistic. Men are this way when it comes to women and their delusions but when the shoe is on the other foot now it’s “condescending”. Not everyone is going to get their happy ending. People have been dying single since time immemorial. If you’ve given it your best shot and it’s not happening for you just move on. Stewing in anger, bitter…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:15 PM
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I’d hope it doesn’t come to that but if it does then legislation should be passed to be harder on violent crime. Sexually unsatisfied men can always just model lonely women. Just get some pets, some friends if you’re sociable enough and vent online to air out your darkest thoughts while living an otherwise peaceful and quiet life. It’s not ideal but it’s better than lashing out violently or stewing in misery over your situation 24/7. Not to mention sex bots are a thing now and many countries hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:09 PM
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I had to look up Ian Somerhalder and he was attractive when he was younger. As for the Beatles and Elvis imo they’re not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:06 PM
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These all happened during the same year as the trial. Here’s another about the defense witnesses as well. https://www.eonline.com/amp/news/1011312/what-you-didn-t-know-about-the-story-of-john-and-lorena-bobbitt-and-why-the-details-are-more-cringe-worthy-than-ever She had more people to corroborate her claims than he did and other women have accused him of the same thing. He was always the way he was. Being violently assaulted doesn’t make someone sexist. It never made me hate men or abuse them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:01 AM
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In the link I sent you they mentioned how other women came forward during the court case. That plus the fact that he was arrested for doing some of what Lorena accused me of lead me to believe she wasn’t lying about the abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:39 AM
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So you think every single person on Reddit is morally bankrupt?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 08:38 AM
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When you look up stats on non marital breakups men and women initiate at equal frequencies. However post marriage women initiate more. Men may fear the Economic repercussions if they’re the breadwinner so instead of just divorcing they’ll just cheat. Women on the other hand seem to not weigh the economic repercussions when they divorce. As they end up poorer after divorce. I’ll also have to look at the stats again but I remember reading up about the divorce habits of couples where the wife is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:08 PM
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Nothing to be full of shit about. This is another site to waste time and be entertained like Instagram, fb and all the other socials. Some people here probably have done caretaking duties. It’s stressful and lonely if you do it full time but it is a labor of love. So there’s nothing wrong with thinking someone loves their partner, parent, sibling less or that they don’t love them at all if they’re not willing to care for them if they get sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:04 PM
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Judging by another comment he made I don’t think he’s capable or love or believing in it. I’m not 100% sure if people with NPD or individuals on the Narcissistic spectrum can even love others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:01 PM
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She didn’t make it personal but as you admitted you have ego issues. So that’s probably why you interpreted it as a personal attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:59 AM
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https://www.oxygen.com/martinis-murder/not-just-lorena-john-bobbitts-other-accusations-domestic-violence?am
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:56 AM
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Yes. Considering ok certain topics you can see a general trend in the views of men here. You’ll have the little onesies and twosies that stray from what the majority of men believe on certain topics but overall you can see strong trends toward certain viewpoints over others on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:54 AM
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Either way. Justice was served. He’s done it in the past so it’s vindication for his past victims and her too if she was telling the truth. If she lied,she served time anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:01 PM
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Because it’s more impactful. Plus she probably does looks gorgeous and beautiful to them. It’s just not for the same reasons you find a woman gorgeous and beautiful. When I give my friends these kinds of compliments it’s because I know their weight loss journey paid off and their body looks amazing. Or their outfit and makeup is on point and flattering. So even though they’re not beautiful in the conventional sense, but the whole outfit, hair, etc is very aesthetically pleasing/beautiful to me. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:59 PM
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Yes. At least for straight women any. How well the woman fits into sexually dimorphic ideals doesn’t matter because straight woman are not sexually attracted to women. When it comes to evaluating men though that’s when you see the evaluation of how well the man fits into sexually dimorphic ideals come into place. It’s because they are sexually attracted to certain features and that will impact their judgment of how attractive a man is. On the flip side though, gay men get judged by women how oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:57 PM
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They did say PPD men and not men in general. PPD men don’t like confident women. They feel if you’re ugly as a woman or unattractive in some other ways you should be a simpering low-self esteem mess. That’s grateful and desperate for any male attention. Edit: thanks for the award!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:51 PM
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Exactly. Women know how they look. They know if they’re hot or not regardless of what compliments their friends give them. The compliments are just a nice pick ke up, especially if the unattractive woman has low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:50 PM
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Not at all, a lot of victims of abuse find it hard to talk about. Sometimes they don’t even realize that what happened to them is abuse until it’s spelled out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:42 PM
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Considering his history, claim is credible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:11 PM
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Yeah she was. That night was just the night she snapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:44 PM
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In the scenario he’s proposing all countries would be like this. That’s how it was in the movie, even though it was set in France. Looking at immigrants though you can see the whole world was flipped around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:40 PM
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If it’s bad they get made fun of by both men and women. If it’s good but it made them look drastically different than what they looked like before surgery/makeup they will get made fun of by men for being “fake” and put down in favor of natural beauties. Most people don’t view good looks as authentic unless it’s cosmetic free(outside of basic hygiene like shampoo, body wash etc). As I keep saying though at the end of the day no one has to know what your beauty routine entails. You don’t have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:00 AM
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You don’t have to pretend like anything. Women get made fun of all the time for wearing makeup and getting plastic surgery and they get put down for not being natural. At the end of the day though, results trump the process. Men who look better after their self care routines see a boost in attention they receive. Regardless of what judgement they may or may not receive for the routine itself. Because no one really cares. All that matters is whether or not it made you look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:18 PM
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Alt or edgy looking guys have always had an appeal in their niche market for as long as I remember. I never found Pete Davidson attractive but I used to find MGK and similar looking guys attractive. Even without the status and wealth it was just their aesthetic that was attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:04 PM
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Maybe this was true 10+ years ago but for people under 30 this is normalized now. Skin care, nail care, hair care etc for men is normalized and makeup for men will be next in the coming years. Also once again, she can’t be turned off if she doesn’t know. You don’t have to tell anyone why you look so good. The results are all that matter not the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:01 PM
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That’s a fair point that I didn’t think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:12 AM
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You don’t have to tell her what you’re doing. Most people care about the results not the process. Most men don’t care to hear about their female partners balayage, steam treatments, wax appointments, esthetician trips or if they’re picking a coffin nail vs a square nail etc. All they care about is how good she looks at the end of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 01:04 AM
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Yep! Even if you adopt internationally it’s still pricey though not as expensive as adopting within the US. The downside is though, some countries have stopped adopting out to Americans because a few bad apples spoiled the bunch. So adoption is a long difficult process.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:37 AM
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I have and the only ones that became 9-10s after makeup alone were 7-8s without the makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:32 AM
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It’s not weight that’s causing it. Their chins are just recessed/short. A lot of people had bad facial bone structure because of genetics. It doesn’t cause them any issues in day to day life it just looks unpleasant. It can only be fixed by a chin implant. Losing weight doesn’t help lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:25 PM
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I’ve seen several like that irl, but I’ve also lived in major cities with huge populations. The topic of the micro thread I was involved in is ugly women. If your face is physically unpleasant makeup isn’t going to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:24 PM
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https://images.app.goo.gl/9A6SwcEbx6aLs4h6A https://images.app.goo.gl/2pn9vk6h2MhWDG8j6 Some people just don’t have harmonios features. They’re not disabled they just have asymmetric unattractive faces. Makeup and the like doesn’t fix, only plastic surgery can. https://drlarrywolford.com/our-results/photos-maxillofacial-surgery/ These people it’s half and half some of them had serious issues form there jaws being like this, others it was just a cosmetic issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:06 PM
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I skimmed them. They had that same pic for Kylie and half the cardi pics including the clickbait one are old and pre-surgery. Neither of them are bombshells with makeup on. They look like themselves with clear skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:00 PM
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Well for one if you have insurance having your own child will cost you 5-10k while with adoption it costs 10-30k. Plus with adoption there’s a long waiting period, especially if you want a baby. Even if you put all the money applying and going through the process you can still get rejected or the birth mom can back out etc. With having your own kid there’s pain and your body gets ruined but you at least will be guaranteed to have a kid after doling out all that expense and going through the effo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:52 PM
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It’s not a disability. It’s still imply bad genetics. Plenty of people have jaws that are too big, or recessed and they’re not disabled it’s just aesthetically unpleasant. The comment you replied to which started this was talking about women with ugly faces not average ones. So if you’re legitimately unattractive makeup and weight loss aren’t going to make you pretty. Only plastic surgery may be able to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:27 PM
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Those pics are pre surgeries, you can tell by Cardis weave and Kylie’s lips. Also neither of them jumped to 9s after makeup lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:16 PM
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It takes more a lot more than ten minutes to have a hot body. Also you could spend doing that time doing something else if you simply didn’t have kids in the first place. You don’t have kids taking up your time, and you don’t have any excess wait to lose. So as I said if you don’t do anything to cause the problem in the first place you won’t have to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:15 PM
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Contouring creates the illusion of cheekbones. It helps if your issue is low to no cheekbones or a chubby face. If your face is misshapen though it’s not going to help you. If your face is actually ugly due to structure and not just minor flaws lower level cosmetics(like makeup and skin/hair care products) aren’t going to help you. You’ll need plastic surgery, which requires lots of money and/or good credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:13 PM
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You also forget adoption is more difficult and expensive than having your own child so it’s not about them not wanting to raise another woman’s kids. It’s that it’s less accessible than just having their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:45 PM
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Kids are a time suck and you won’t have as much time to work out until they need you around less. With the exception of wealthier privileged women who can afford to have a nanny or a sitter around much more. And women lucky enough to have involved family members with ample free time to take care of their kids. However, why get yourself into that predicament when you can just avoid having them and ruining your body in the first place? It’s the more logical conclusion. If you don’t do something to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:42 PM
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None of them became 9s after the makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:37 PM
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It’s not beauty products that jumped them up. Unless you’re counting cosmetic procedures? The average women can’t afford that in any regularity though. At most they’ll jump 1-3 points from using makeup and having a good skin and hair care routine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:36 PM
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That doesn’t fix ugly bone structure. You’re imagining minor flaws like a woman with a harmonious face and pleasant features who has discoloration or acne scars. Or a pretty girl with no lashes or short hair. Your solutions could fix that but if her face is crooked, eyes are oddly shaped or spaced, jaw is too big, or too recessed etc makeup and weave isn’t going to make her hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:28 PM
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Not really. A national downsize would be beneficial to average citizens. Trying to force the numbers back up really only benefits the government and big businesses because it ensures a large labor supply that has to compete for crappy jobs and shell out a lot in taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:12 PM
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The six pack and money just makes shallow people look past the toxicity temporarily. Just like how crazy women are tolerated temporarily while they’re hot and good at sex. Relationships with people like that are rarely ever long lasting and they’re never healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:59 PM
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Idk you to say either way. For men in general though things are similar to how women say they have smart, beautiful girlfriends who can’t find husbands. Yet when you dig deeper you find out the women is insufferable to be around as she is pretty to look at. There’s a lot of men like this too. They seem like great catches on paper but when you get to know them you see marriage to them would be a dumpster fire. So a woman looking for a quality match may run into this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:19 PM
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Birth rates in many African nations are dropping too. They just don’t have the same access to contraceptives and safe abortions like wealthier European nations. Another thing is there isn’t as much pressure/need to have children as a retirement plan in Europe. So if you know you are not mentally-apt enough to have a child or you are not ok with the hit your lifestyle would take due to a child you have more freedom to opt out of having one and more options to ensure this remains the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:14 PM
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They can’t just get stable men anytime they want. The man has to consent too. Quality men to marry and have kids with are in high demand and short supply. If you’re not the type of woman who can attract one and get commitment from one then your options are to live single or get with an unstable guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:07 PM
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And in tamiles when that’s not the case? Like the husband being disabled or less skilled than his wife? How do they fit in here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:48 PM
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Google translate isn’t very accurate though. They’re known for mistranslating. Just from the title alone the result google translate gave me doesn’t match up to what you’re saying the study is about. So that’s not a good sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:47 PM
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It will be all bad in the end. If women are forced to have more children and forced out of the workforce the burden of supporting those children will then fall to the men. Either directly by stricter penalties for absentee fathers or indirectly taking more of mens tax money to fund social welfare services to support the kids. Unless Chinese men are completely ok with their pockets being fleeced this isn’t beneficial to anyone but governments and big businesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:45 PM
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Or just let the fertility rate drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:40 PM
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What word means translation/translation tab for those who don’t speak Swedish?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:39 PM
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This problem isn’t going to be solved unless the obstacles preventing natives in a country from having kids is solved ethically. Trying to socially force people to have kids just leads you back to square one with a skilled labor shortage. When children are unwanted they don’t typically get the support and nurturing they need to become mentally healthy, productive, proficient members of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 04:37 PM
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It is one variable that can make or break you in terms of dating success depending on your other qualities. If you’re over 6ft it’s a great benefit provided you’re in decent shape, hygienic and not awkward. If you’re under 6ft it doesn’t matter as long as you’re not shorter than 5’8 it doesn’t really impact you one way or another. If you’re under 5’8 you have to have a lot of desirable traits to compensate. So being above average in terms of facial attractiveness and fitness, stellar charisma, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:27 PM
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It’s not “these days” It’s always been like this in terms of who is attracted to who. In the past people would just couple up and have mediocre relationships with people they weren’t all that into. After dating apps and social media became a thing though post marital dead bedrooms, resentment towards spouses being normalized and high divorce rates got traded for para-social relationships, boom in casual sex for certain groups, lower marriage and divorce rates but higher quality marriages etc. At…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:10 PM
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No one said it was. It is one variable though, it’s one cause. The one OP chose to inquire about and that’s perfectly valid as they got the answers they were looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:13 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:11 PM
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So basically. . . you don’t know? I’m not trying to be convinced of anything. I’m simply curious and wanted to read the sources without buying a book if it’s not legit. I’m not paying for information I can get for free. Provided it even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:47 PM
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It’s not invalid at all. For many hurt is what led them to the mgtow path. Op wanted answers from those kind of men and the phrasing of the question got them many of the type of responses they were seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:45 PM
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Anyway. For a lot of the men responding someone(or multiple women) did in fact hurt them. So the question is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:44 PM
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Isn’t rent due at the beginning of the month??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:05 PM
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You say this yet many men here are responding with specific examples of being hurt lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:04 PM
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Where did he pull his sources from?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:02 PM
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If she masturbates sure, but during sex it’s a little tricky unless the guy is willing to pause for a sec to let her do what she needs to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:44 PM
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So then it makes sense why many women are avoiding them. If you don’t want to be begged for sex. Don’t do online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:28 PM
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Exactly. Not many understand that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:03 AM
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Yet they’re still less than 5% of the population? Why aren’t things trending upward much faster to the point where they are the majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:02 AM
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They do if they pass well enough. If no one can tell they’re trans their social experiences are the same as cis womens. Also if being a woman is that much better/easier than being a man, then wouldn’t it mean being any kind of woman cis or trans is easier than being a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:58 AM
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If this is true, why don’t more men become women? The resources are there for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:25 AM
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Half of these things certain groups of women experience already so for them nothing would change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:16 AM
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A lot of women are into a more clean cut, wholesome look vs a rugged one. So K-pop boys fit the clean cut, wholesome look which attracts women who like that. If you watch them on variety shows though a lot of them(not all) are still very masculine acting. They’re assertive and confident. So I think the balance of masculine and feminine is what’s charming. They’d fit in the alpha fucks category. They’re famous and high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:17 PM
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If we’ve had sex 5 or more times, I communicated and reiterated what I like during all those encounters and I still don’t orgasm. That signals to me that we’re probably just sexually incompatible. Side note, if he was into stuff that are hard limits for me. That be a huge dealbreaker as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:07 AM
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Then you’re going to live in perpetual misery if you’re not hot and charismatic. Best of luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:43 PM
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For your own happiness and well-being. Centering sex too much in your life isn’t healthy. What happens if you become impotent? Or your sex drive drops to near nonexistence? Does your life lose all meaning? Will you just live in perpetual misery? If you focus on yourself you can find other things that make you happy and fulfilled besides sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:18 PM
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Focusing on sex isn’t focusing on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:00 AM
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It made you feel like crap because centered women in your fitness journey rather than yourself. The key here is to focus on yourself and what makes you happy outside of romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:12 AM
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It’s supposed to be for your health and well-being first and foremost. As exercise is good for you physically and some people get a dopamine rush from it that improves their mental health. The potential for it to help your dating life is subsidiary if it even impacts it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:03 AM
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There’s equal probability of both being misogynistic but I’ve personally found unattractive men are more overt about it when they are. My guess is they want to hurt women in the ways they’ve been hurt. Whereas attractive men are more covert about their misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:44 PM
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Dating app usage, spending on self-care, grooming and hygiene, whether or not they’ve sought professional matchmaking help and applied the advice etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:33 PM
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There was no uniform agreement among women to do so though. So the price fixing metaphor doesn’t apply well here. Also if Pusey is not valuable or low value all the more reason to put effort into other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:54 PM
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Not for small businesses and hobbie shops.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:51 PM
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When 80% of men can’t get any sex at all despite putting in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:50 PM
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We’ll see how things look after the pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:31 PM
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Nope. It’s on you for not having what they want. If you want a watch. And the watchmaker asks for a $1,000 for it. The watchmaker has customers who are willing to pay that price, but they are also fine if they don’t sell the watch. You want the watch but you can’t afford the $1,000 price tag. Should they lower the price to accommodate your budget or should you find something else that’s attainable to you? Is it selfish of them to not give you the watch? Or is it selfish of you to expect the watc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:30 PM
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The fact that your effort isn’t enough to achieve it. If it was, you’d already have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:22 PM
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Attractive to a large number of women enough to sleep with them casually. In total though, 70% of men are decent enough to get some kind of sex from women. The 30% isn’t rising that fast and the % for women is rising as well. So things will still balance out in terms of bio diversity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:22 PM
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His awkwardness and lack of fashion sense were also big issues
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:18 PM
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No. It’s rewiring your wants to ones that are attainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:17 PM
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It is in conjunction with everything else I’ve brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:57 PM
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The 20% figure refers to men who are having consistent casual sex. However 70% of men overall are having sex and that figure is just fine for population and bio diversity. The 30% of men who are perpetually struggling should give up and find gain other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:56 PM
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The need for intimacy can be met via platonic relationships. Your friends can hug you and touch you in non sexual ways that fulfill the desires for physical affection. For sexual stuff there’s masturbation. Everything a romantic relationship provides can be found outside of them. The only benefits of romantic relationships are that they conveniently package everything vs having to find it in several different places.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:53 PM
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The human race won’t die out. Men women like, will be able to procreate. Those who can’t accomplish that should focus on other things instead of obsessing over attracting women. That’s not healthy. If you’ve tried your best and it doesn’t happen for you, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:48 PM
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It’s more like saying get a new carpet and stop putting hot things on it to avoid burns.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:46 PM
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Or by people letting go of the idea that romantic love is the only valid form of love. Having great relationships with family and friends can alleviate loneliness just as much as having a partner. They can even prevent you from getting touch starved via platonic touch. The only things they can’t fulfill are sexual desires but there’s always masturbation for that. All the “problems” that stem from not having a romantic relationship can be solved by outsourcing to different things. Romantic relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:39 PM
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It is. They’ll be happier if they stop putting so much focus on women. Once again you are centering women. The advice isn’t for getting women. It’s for being more content with yourself and being single. Obsessing over what you don’t have and can’t have just because you want it will only leave you miserable. So instead focus your energy on what you do have, what you can acquire and you’ll be much better off. If all men did this they’d be a lot happier than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:35 PM
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It’s a global solution. Focusing on what you can control will leave you better off than fretting about what you can’t change. If you’re undesirable to women and you truly believe it’s through no fault of your own. Stop worrying about women and instead focus on friendships, hobbies etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:28 PM
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I’ll use my cousin as an example because he was similar to you. On paper he’s great too. Very intelligent, got a degree in software engineering, hygienic and he wasn’t a jerk. In reality he was very socially awkward and it was a long process to help him break out of it. Even the way he would walk and stand around just gave off vibes that he was uncomfortable being in his own body. It’s hard to explain without a video, but he’d walk slightly hunched over, with his legs oddly spaced and slightly s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:54 PM
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The self improvement advice is more for themselves. Working out, having hobbies you enjoy and doing well professionally can make you happy. It puts you in a better place to make more friends as well. They should take the advice and focus on what they can control vs on what they can’t(attracting women who don’t want them). It can only help.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:40 PM
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Nope, Caribbean actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:19 PM
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Everyone is talking about these common examples. Incels chose to celebrate Elliot Rodger and name him the supreme gentleman. They chose to entertain ridiculous arguments about lowering the age of consent, government mandated girlfriends etc. There are no misunderstandings. Most incels hate women, are angry at people more attractive than them and they make no secret about it. So there should be no surprise when the group you position yourself as directly adversarial to does not like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:19 PM
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It doesn’t mean that at all. You are arguing that to distract from the main point. Many of the things they say are objectively toxic and they often even acknowledge that about themselves. They simply don’t care and they believe they are justified in being toxic because of how they’ve allegedly been treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:15 PM
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If that’s what you want to do that’s your business. It’s on those who associate with a group to keep their members in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:13 PM
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Nope, the age of marriage has been pushed back so it makes sense for divorce rates to drop a bit. Not really. Women could’ve gotten married later and divorced less after second wave feminism just like women are doing now after waves 3&4. This doesn’t adequately explain things. But the cost of living has gone up, cost to raise and have a child has gone up, cost of college has gone up. Compared to before when they had no income? Women make more money but everything also costs more and purchasing p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:12 PM
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Pedophilia and other sexual paraphilias have objective definitions. Things Incels say fit into that. Sexually pre-pubescent children. Is pedophilia. It’s pretty clear cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:54 PM
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The point is that it’s life. If you have disgusting members in a group you associate with and you do not sufficiently check them. You will be called to task by those they’re attacking. The onus is not on the attacked to be trusting of you, but on you to manage your associates.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:52 PM
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Does it happen to be one of those countries with bride kidnappings? Or where if you rape a girl her parents will sell her off into marriage to avoid the social shame of her losing her virginity? Or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:51 PM
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Sure, the feminists that did that and the incels I spoke of can go to prison then. Win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:33 PM
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It’s fact. You admitted to sleeping with a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:32 PM
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Incels did that to themselves by naming Elliot Rodger the supreme gentleman and applauding the disgusting actions of other incel mass murderers because they want to live vicariously through them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:30 PM
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Not having sex isn’t “perishing”. They can live long healthy lives as virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:29 PM
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Murder is not subjective, neither is pedophilia that’s considered a sexual paraphilia. Nothing about them is mentally well and they know that about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:26 PM
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Some things are objective. Harassing people because they’re more attractive than you and supporting illegal behavior is not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:24 PM
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People already do judge those groups by the nut jobs. Why are you annoyed that women are doing the same thing? Incels want women to hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:22 PM
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Thank you for telling us that you’re attracted to children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:21 PM
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Because their hatred doesn’t just stay in their quiet corners of the internet. They like to go on women’s social media pages and incessantly troll. Catfish people on dating apps, harass others online and in worse case scenarios commit mass murders. There’s nothing likable about them as a group. They actively cover hatred against themselves. So why be surprised when they receive what they’re asking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:20 PM
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So are you going to expand on why exactly you think this/what led to these conclusions or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:16 PM
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So you’re proving her point by default. You’re only attracted to crazy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:15 PM
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True!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:15 PM
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Yes but it’s not unconditional unless it’s from parent to child(and even that is dependent on the mental wellness of the parent). Love is also somewhat of a choice though. When the hormones subside you choose everyday whether or not to continue loving someone based on the validity of the bond you’ve formed with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:15 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:13 PM
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This sounds a bit too oddly pornographic for the average 7 year old. I used to work with kids and they only time I ever saw kids express sexuality like that is if they were being exposed to some inappropriate stuff at home, or if they were being sexually abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:12 PM
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So do Renners boys by your logic. She literally wrote a book and told the world about her predatory intentions multiple times. So the boys are just as informed as Leonardo’s girls. Either way doesn’t make it right what these two do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:09 PM
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Why would your reaction be different. Very similar poor outcomes could occur from both of those scenarios. Stds, pregnancy(or pregnancies)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:55 PM
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A 7 year old though??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:53 PM
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It does apply to both. To older women more so to be honest. Brittany Renner caught more flack from Men and women than Leonardo DiCaprio ever has. Sam Taylor Josh and Aaron Taylor Johnson’s marriage creeps people out just as much as Woody Allen and Soonyi Previns did. When you date people significantly younger than you, you catch more flack. You probably think women don’t because it’s more uncommon for women to lust after young men as generally their age preferences age with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:03 PM
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Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:00 PM
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So why not specify that? Hm, probably because he’s not talking about FDS women but women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:00 PM
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They’ve still fallen though, while following your logic they should have risen. But the cost of living has gone up, cost to raise and have a child has gone up, cost of college has gone up. Women make more money but everything also costs more and purchasing power isn’t keeping up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:58 PM
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It’s not the need to be right, they are right. People don’t start having an issue with age gaps unless they’re very large or illegal. So a 20 year old dating a 15 year old. Or a 40+ year old who is only into teenagers. I’m sure you know this though but are just being purposely disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:57 PM
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Right? Lmaoo this whole post makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:56 PM
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No they’re not, they’re very consistent. The women dating old men aren’t the ones chastising age gap relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:55 PM
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Not because of marriage others they’d be divorcing at equal or greater rates. It’s more to do with the economy/finances/workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:45 PM
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And also divorced more often. Which means they weren’t actually content in their marriages, they were just getting married because it was socially expected. Compared to women now who are getting married because they want to marry their husbands and they enjoy being married to their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:06 AM
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Yes because they’re both reducing the same % of the daily intake. Something that is already adjusted for their size. Men on average are bigger and more muscular than women and this gives them advantages over women in terms of strength and weight loss. Comparing an average man to an above average women doesn’t make any sense when you’re discussing how easy it is for an average man vs an average woman to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:18 AM
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https://healthyliving.azcentral.com/gender-affect-total-calories-burned-daily-5251.html
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:20 AM
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Men don’t have to do much of either. They burn more calories at rest than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:14 AM
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You can always resume now, or use a different brand as well. Skin care is for everyone, and it can only help you if you use the right products.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:25 AM
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Except they were not as they still left their husbands at higher rates than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:23 AM
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Having to do more work for the same results is always a disadvantage. By your logic men aren’t disadvantaged in dating, they just have less flexibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:51 PM
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You can’t be serious. . . Treating and preventing acne is part of skin care. Skin care is literally caring for your skin. Whether you’re trying to treat or prevent acne, wrinkles, dryness, oiliness etc. Doesn’t matter. It all falls under the skin care umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:50 PM
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It still stands regardless. Mens bodies allow them to burn through calories quicker. So even if they cut by the same %, he would still shed weight quicker. Men have a natural physical advantage when it comes to musculature and size, which in turn results in them burning more calories even at rest than women do. This makes weight loss faster and easier for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:32 PM
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I’m neither of those things. I’m someone who understands that’s the mens body’s are give them an advantage when it comes to weight loss, muscle gain and strength. Sorry that upsets you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:28 PM
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Depends on what your fitness goals are tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:15 PM
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Why not? They’re both on a diet and need to undercut their calories.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:15 PM
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Enabling him to lose weight faster and easier on the same diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:14 PM
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Probably not gay. A city boy or pretty boy mainly. There’s still an understanding(or assumption) that they’re a heterosexual man. They’ll just be viewed as a vain one. The same isn’t true for these kind of men in liberal areas. They wouldn’t automatically be viewed as vain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:13 PM
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I’d agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:11 PM
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I don’t have to speak for all women. You can go out and observe trends for yourself. Attitudes towards male skin care have shifted drastically over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:10 PM
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Men also put on muscle easier and have more muscle naturally. I’ve put on muscle, not going to make up for what I lack in natural testosterone lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:09 PM
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So why were the divorce rates so high? If they were content post war divorce laws shouldn’t have had an impact. Those allegedly content women would have stuck around with the husbands they were so happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:08 PM
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It literally does. Especially since skin care has largely been divorced of its feminine connotations and it’s on the way out in the places where that stigma still lingers. As I said before. You can tell what’s really stigmatized for men and the degree based on marketing and advertising.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:08 PM
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Lmaoo fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:06 PM
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When it comes to weight loss they can be used interchangeably. Being able to lose weight faster means you can shed weight easier. 1,500 calories a day would be an undercut for both based on the recommended daily caloric intakes for adults of both genders so my point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:06 PM
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I explained why already. Oftentimes when someone says they’re alone this claim will be invalidated if they have family and friends. The same doesn’t happen if they say they’re single. What you use to describe yourself if your business I’m just telling you the terms garner different responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:04 PM
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It literally does make it easy for men lol. If they eat the same amount to lose weight, it will go faster for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:02 PM
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Yet when you say “alone” people will bring up your friends and family if you have that to argue that you’re not really alone. They don’t do the same if you say you’re single because it’s clear that you’re lamenting the fact that you don’t have a relationship and not that you have no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:31 AM
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Even if both sexes don’t eat. The way mens bodies are set up they’ll burn through calories faster. If both ate 1500 a day. He’d lose the weight faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:30 AM
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Already done so and the answer to that question is no. There was a stigma, it was killed and now we’re in the stages of making sure it stays dead. It’s why when you see that question asked the answers are overwhelmingly “no it’s not” or some other variation vs “yeah, skin care is totally feminine” or some other variation. Skin care is for everyone. It’s why it’s marketed to everyone. Also if you notice. Things that are actually socially unacceptable for men aren’t heavily marketed to them. You d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:50 AM
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This may be true, in NYC, Philadelphia, and New Jersey, Toronto from what I’ve seen men who put a lot of effort into their appearance aren’t viewed as gay. Outside of those areas I’ve seen men call them “pretty-boys” mockingly but I haven’t heard them actually called gay for this stuff since I was in middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:39 AM
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It’s literally not lol. Skin care is marketed to men as well. Proactive, acutane, curology etc is Marketed to men as well. Men doing skin care isn’t looked at as gay anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:36 AM
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He’s been out with some black people. He hasn’t been out in general though. He’s made still making chart topping hits and even now doing Afro beats music lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:33 AM
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They do exist. Online you can probably find them in femboi subreddits, fan communities or kink communities. Offline I’m not so sure. I’d advise to go after women a little younger than yourself but it seems you’ve already tried that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:28 AM
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The only overlapping complaint I’ve heard is about heteronormative roles being imposed on them. Never about women wearing makeup for their attention but maybe I’m misunderstanding you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:21 AM
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Being alone and being single aren’t the same thing though. Being alone means no partner, friends or sex. Being single just means you can’t find a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:06 AM
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Diet will not be the equalizer because the levels of effort needed will still be drastically different. And simplify it like each sex is the same and has to do the same thing is disingenuous. I’m 5’5 and 126. Getting a six pack used to be one of my fitness goals and I used to compare myself to some of my fit male friends to get tips on how to achieve it. Not realizing that something like that is significantly easier for them and I would need to put in more effort to get the same results because …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:04 AM
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If what you said was true the divorce rate would not have been what it was during the pre dating app era. Women were not “content” in the true sense of the word. There were just no suitable alternatives so many begrudgingly settled down but would also end up divorcing. Now there’s alternatives so they skip all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:00 AM
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It also means that if you take both an overweight man and an overweight woman and reduce their calories. He’ll drop the weight quicker and much easier because his body burns through it faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:58 AM
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The point I’m making is if they want to, they need to put in more effort than a man would because the bodies of average men vs women is different. It’s easier for men to burn fat and put on muscle than it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:57 AM
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So in the end it’s as I said, men have an easier time burning fat because of the difference in their body composition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:55 AM
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So you agree mens body composition enables them to burn through calories and fat faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 01:02 AM
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Also from the first link: “Randy Turner, the manager of the Texas Health Harris Methodist Hospital Fort Worth Fitness Center, said that men tend to lose weight faster than women primarily due to a key physical difference. “In most cases, men have more lean muscle than women, so it’s easier for them to lose weight more quickly,” Men naturally have more musculature due to higher testosterone levels than women so my point still stands. Men do not have to put in as much effort as women to burn fat. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:24 PM
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It does change that fact because if both eat the same amount of calories it will take the man less effort to burn them out. Resulting in him burning fat easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:23 PM
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It means you will store more fat and have a harder time burning it off than someone who burns off more after doing the same or less effort than you. Men have an easier time burning fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:22 PM
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That’s not what it means. It means for women to burn fat they will have to put in more effort than a man because their body compositions and fat storage are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:28 PM
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You’re 100% correct. They don’t have to put in as much effort to burn fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:27 PM
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It is easier for men to lose weight and it’s been proven and you can very easily fact check it. https://www.texashealth.org/Health-and-Wellness/Bariatrics/Do-Men-Really-Lose-Weight-More-Easily-Than-Women https://www.livescience.com/63324-men-women-weight-loss-difference.html
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:26 PM
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Ugly Betty was never content with Ugly Bill. It’s just that now instead of having to go to ugly bill to maybe get the sexual needs met she can now use a sex toy or go for a hot guy off an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:20 PM
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They think women easily being able to get sex translates to quality relationships. That’s why. In reality that’s not the case though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:17 PM
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I’ve come across social media posts from a couple on tik tok and Twitter and they don’t seem mentally ill. Some were broke, with no skills and no money to get training for the skills. So they did OF got a lot of money then retired. The “weirdest” ones I’ve seen are the couples with exhibitionist fetishes who enjoy people watching them have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:39 PM
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You keep saying that but how have you determined that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:37 PM
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So then they don’t like women lol. Also the complaints men have about women have been around for a while. From Tesla to ancient philosophers they complained about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:37 PM
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What are you using to determine that they have bpd?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:42 AM
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I view them as disgusting because they’re largely predatory and cruel and trying to figure out which one isn’t is like playing Russian roulette. I want kids too and I wouldn’t trust someone like that to be around a daughter(or a son if they swing that way).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:07 AM
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Lust and like are not the same thing. You’re conflating the two. Thirstness and the other stuff you mentioned is lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:25 AM
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I think it is genetics. I’ve known a good mix of women fit and unfit and it seems like diet and exercise only mitigate some things like how easy it is to get back to your pre-pregnancy weight. Whether they got stretch marks and how many, raisin belly, skin discoloration etc all seemed dependent on genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:26 AM
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Wow. Women don’t have dick on the brain 24/7. They’re full functioning human beings meaning they have problems and worries that are unrelated to sex and romance. The reason they post it on social media is because they are oversharers or they don’t have anyone irl who can sympathize. The content of the posts can be inspired by a whole host of things though. Maybe they’re saying “life sucks” because a loved one died or they’re facing financial hardships. They could be saying people suck because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:10 AM
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My apologies. After reading the rest of the comments her and captainquestionasker need to get together. They’d be a match made in hell lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:18 PM
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You and Midwestufohunter would make a great couple! 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:00 PM
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Orrrrr, it implies that neither should be viewed as superior or inferior but simply just different ways of being. There doesn’t have to be 1 right way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:52 PM
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I don’t see anything wrong with it. If they’re happy being that way and they find partners they can be happy with that’s great. No one should have to force themselves to follow genders roles if they don’t fit. If shirking them works for you that’s awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 08:17 PM
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And since it’s just about looks, it’s more of a wild card. There’s a lot less to go off of to determine what his intentions are. When the guy knows them it’s based on more than just looks so some women feel safer to go for that option. You have more to work with to gauge his reaction and there’s a risk of damaging the social group dynamics that holds both parties accountable to some degree. That risk isn’t usually there when it’s two strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 08:44 PM
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She doesn’t have to dictate what you do. It’s just about finding compatible people. If a couple finds they don’t agree on the issue of porn, just break up and date other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 10:15 AM
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Depends on how frequently. The make refractory period is longer so if it’s affecting our sex life I’d probably dump him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 10:14 AM
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Why? He’s not obligated to date anyone. It’s better for him to be honest and leave “his equal” alone if he’s not into her than to start something insincere.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:59 AM
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If they had an active sex life they probably wouldn’t have monogamous relationships in the first place and would just replace one woman with another once the distrust got too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:53 AM
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Why would you do this instead of just teaching people that being single is ok and that they should learn to be ok with their own company?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:52 AM
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To stop single shaming people and promote people learning to be content with platonic and familial love or with their own company. Women aren’t the problem for not wanting to date certain men. I’m sure you wouldn’t tolerate men being labeled a problem because they don’t want to date certain women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 09:51 AM
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Time for a new solution. There’s growing discontent, mistrust from both sides of the aisle now that both men and women are aware of the others unsavory opinions of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:17 AM
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And none would make communities to complain. I didn’t only bring up murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:59 PM
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We don’t know where he came from. You made the claim that men are content to replace women with video games and other activities. So why go on rampages?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:21 PM
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Yes, it’s his fault if he’s murdering people because he can’t manage his sexual frustrations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:07 PM
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So you say, yet when women repeat this terpers get offended and say it’s an unfair generalization. Then they bring up married rp and the like as counter evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:47 PM
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If they were that happy. There would be no murderous incels. And none would make communities to complain. They’d all be content to just use video games and porn as a replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:50 PM
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Have a good one(:
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:47 PM
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Doesn’t negate anything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:46 PM
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Just from your first sentence it’s clear you didn’t read the whole chain. There’s men who get hounded for sex in the way women do and even they still get lonely and want someone who wants them for a relationship too. Men who claim they want this are experiencing fomo and a grass is greener on the other side type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:04 PM
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It’s pathetic and cowardly to you. If you’re afraid of men all you have to do is avoid the things that set them off. So soft rejections like ghosting instead of ripping the band aid off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:01 PM
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Yes. . . Lol. My point is that people are only looking at successful gold diggers and using that to determine how many there are. However there’s plenty of gold digger wanna bes(men and women) that get looked over because they’re not good at it and aren’t successful gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:00 PM
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Exactly my point. A lot of men are gold diggers. They’re just not good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 05:08 AM
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How are guys supposed to know someone before spending time with them? Exactly. I see everyone keeps skipping over the “acquaintance/friends to lovers portion of my comment”. Some women prefer to date within their social circles because those men have had the opportunity to get to know them. They know those men aren’t simply approaching because they like how they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:53 AM
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Most aren’t. You’re confusing rate of success with desire/attempts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:51 AM
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Why would I change it to relationship vs sex when the issue is being able to get sex but not relationships. That wouldn’t make any sense. “It’s lonely to be able to get relationships but not relationships”. Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:51 AM
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I think that because of past experience. Men who seem perfectly normal but then go buck wild when they’re rejected. From that I learned it’s better to be safe than sorry because I won’t always be so lucky when faced with angry men. Ghosting doesn’t hurt anyone, anger potentially can. Ghosting reduces the risk of death because you’re not around and cutting contact/means for the man to find you and not dealing with the fallout of his anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:50 AM
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My sentiments exactly just don’t date any men altogether. But if you do choose to date knowledgeable of the risks with men in spite of.. ghosting continues to be viewed as rude as well as cowardly. Some women do this actually. Anyway you’re premise is faulty. This is because the lethal risk doesn’t come from dating men, it comes from angering them and this is something you can encounter whether you’re dating the man or not. The woman who was beaten and had her eye nearly bitten out in NY for exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:47 AM
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Whether or not something is wrong with it depends on the person. Some people prefer to be asked out after the person knows them. That’s the friends/acquaintances to lovers thing I mentioned. They view being asked out solely because of their looks to be shallow. So they don’t take kindly to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:30 PM
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The odds are scare but it’s still a non zero chance you could die. Why take a lethal risk when you can simply choose not to? Many of the risks you listed aren’t nearly as avoidable as Russian roulette or dating. Men don’t take on risks with women, they concoct dating methods with the intentions of avoiding the risks that come with dating women. So it’s odd to me that you find issue with women doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:28 PM
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It doesn’t matter how many of them there are. What matters is that no woman what’s to be the one to end up on the 9pm news as a murder report for rejecting a guy. If I asked you to play Russian roulette, would it matter that there’s only 1 bullet vs 5? Or would you just not play because you value your life and aren’t going to take avoidable risks?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:30 PM
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It sometimes is. If what you want isn’t to be fucked than being viewed as fuckable is a nuisance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:26 PM
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You’d kill for it because it’s easier for you to get pleasure and validation from sex. Also in terms of “value” sex is positive to neutral for men in that regard but for women it’s neutral to negative depending on the culture. Plus even with the benefits men who only ever get approached for sex get lonely too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:25 PM
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The thought of it definitely makes me nervous because I don’t ever want to make a guy feel uncomfortable or bother him. So I don’t bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:22 PM
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Yes. I’m relationship minded and having healthy, monogamous relationships with promiscuous men seems like a rare feat. Most womanizers don’t want relationships in the first place and if they do they prefer them not to be monogamous. Whether they achieve the ethically or not varied man to man but regardless I prefer monogamy. So I stick to my lane and date men with compatible views on sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:20 PM
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They may be the type that prefers friends or acquaintances to lovers because that way they know the guy is interested in them based on what he’s seen of their time spent together(their personality, interests, how they treat others etc.). Not just their face like it is with a strange man. He knows nothing about you so what is he basing his romantic/sexual interest on? It’s solely about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:23 PM
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Most successful gold diggers being women doesn’t mean most gold diggers are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:07 AM
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It’s not stupid. It’s valid and it’s a communication of values. They want a connection that goes beyond surface level. A random guy who they don’t know immediately asking them out probably isn’t going to provide that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:06 AM
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Most men can’t live comfortably on one income though so they care by default as do women. The only people who are really open to the idea of stay at home spouses are those with good salaries who don’t look down on homemaking as a legitimate benefit for the couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 01:04 AM
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I didn’t say you called me one. I said you’re free to assume I’m one if you wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 04:10 AM
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I see you skipped over the second sentence. Not all improvement content is benign. From the woman’s perspective some of those men aren’t worth being around unless you’re just looking for in-exclusive, no strings attached sex. I’m not looking for that so I don’t date men like that and I try to avoid them socially and professionally if I can because we’re incompatible. However, you’re free to assume I’m an abuser if you wish. That’s your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:49 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 11:22 PM
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They do actually. When you ask a woman what she likes she’ll tell you the qualities in men she likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:37 PM
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Mainly apathetic. That’s his business. However depending on what specifically he’s watching or reading I might take it as a red flag and a sign to avoid him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:36 PM
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Those type of guys usually clean up quite nicely when they have a date. They let things slip again when they get comfortable though. My cousin is like that. He’ll shower, and wear deodorant and cologne when he has a date but he’s a slob normally. He tries to put his best foot forward for dates though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 06:12 PM
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Yeah but a lot of them hide their bad hygiene until they think they’ve got you locked down. They’ll put their best foot forward on the first few dates and through the honey moon phase but once that’s passes they’re back to their normal selves. I’ve never experienced it with body hygiene but I have experienced it with room/home cleanliness. I’ve dated guys who had pristine, sparkling clean homes the first few times I went over. Then once they get comfortable around me I see it’s normally a pig st…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 06:08 PM
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I assume he’s a fuckboy or very emotionally disconnected from sex and I politely move on. Women who assume that cunnilingus and dates means he’s leading them on are probably very young and don’t have much experience and/or a very developed view of modern sex and Romance. Many modern men want what would have been a girlfriend role in the past without commitment. A lot of young women are still coming to terms with that which is why they may feel they were lead on. However whether that’s his intent…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:47 PM
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No all you need is proof of paternity relationship. If the child is yours and the mother files for child support you’ll have to pay. Even if it was just a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:50 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:49 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:48 PM
3

I thought those were Jerrygirls?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:32 AM
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Abby? Who is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:29 AM
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In many western nations child support is a thing. You have to have proof of paternity though. The only way the man can get out of it really is if he completely lied about everything even his name and then dipped out. However this would only work if the woman doesn’t hire an investigator. Or if he rescinds his parental rights and there is someone else there who is willing to take over as the child’s second parent legally speaking. Otherwise once paternity is proved he will have to pay child suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 01:40 AM
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It’s true for a lot of men for sure. It’s why you have to be very careful about the men you interact with as a woman. Platonically, professionally, romantically and sexually. Also don’t be afraid to just cut them off or significantly reduce contact if cutting them off completely isn’t possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:55 PM
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If she proves paternity resources and time will be taken away regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 11:52 PM
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Yes and I read the response. The person you’re replying to thinks being valued for looks is worse than being valued for success. They even clarified this with their second comment. So by your logic being a guy would be a dream not a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:07 PM
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I didn’t ask for help lol. I was simply answering OP’s question. My method works well for me and I’ll continue to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:13 AM
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So then why would you say being a guy would be a nightmare to someone who would prefer to be valued for their success? Wouldn’t that mean being a guy would be a dream come true based on what you said here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:12 AM
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So do looks and you have less control over the maintenance than with success. A huge part of sex appeal is youth and aging is inevitable. Plus with success you get more respect and admirable than with sex appeal. People respect your hard work and ambition.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:46 PM
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Are men only valued for their looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:43 PM
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It’d be worse to be viewed as a sex object. At least my success is something I have more control over and it’s something I worked towards so being valued for that is much better imo. Being valued as a sex object is just about who would want to use you as a human flesh light without caring about anything else that you’ve done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:43 PM
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Yes it is way easier to ghost them. Men like that are that way because that’s how they choose and desire to be. That’s his authentic self. It’s not my place change it, I just recognize it and understand that we’re incompatible. From past experience men like that will try and give the run around or debate with me about why I should be totally interested in casual sex and joining his roster. I’m not interested in doing that. So, once I figure out he’s just interested in sex and racking up his body…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:40 PM
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From Terpers themselves. When women try to make distinctions they get the “AWALT” response. No one likes to be incessantly told that they’re something they’re not. If you keep doing that the people you’re doing it to will dislike you and many of them will be vocal about that dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:08 PM
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A man cheating has a similar effect. He could get the other woman pregnant which takes away time and resources from his partner and their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:17 PM
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Yes by women who love chivalry. I always express appreciation for those type of men irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:15 PM
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That’s tricky, but for the most part people only consider it to a be contributing to unattainable beauty standards if you lie about having work done and say it’s all natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:50 PM
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It’s not just other women. It’s society in general. Beautiful people get treated better. People who want that better treatment will aspire to that and people consciously or subs consciously uphold these standards when they treat beautiful people better than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 07:47 PM
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People only judge when the guy has so many kids he can’t even remember all their names and ages. Since that right there is a sign that those kids aren’t all getting equal quality time with their dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:53 PM
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Ok I think I misunderstood you. Your source point to decriminalization as a solution which I’m in favor of. I don’t think sex work should be illegal. I’m just more in favor or decriminalization than legalization because the former is what is preferred by sex workers and it has also been shown to be the better model overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:51 PM
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Yep I’ll put some links down below. The natural supply of sex workers isn’t enough to meet the demand which is why people are trafficked into sex in the first place. Neither legalization or decriminalization have been shown to have a substantial impact on the voluntary/consensual supply of sex work. Full legalization has been shown to increase trafficking though because it increases the demand. This is because it green lights potential patrons who are stopped by laws on purchasing sex. https://w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:49 PM
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Do you have anything I could read about this? Or is it just a theory or yours? Either way I have a few questions. In a country where it’s legalized why wouldn’t their pimps/traffickers be keeping a tighter leash? I ask this because now they’re in the public eye. When it’s illegal clients have to find them, if the victim gets caught they’ll be the one in trouble for selling sex and the trafficker gets off scot free if the victim has no evidence they were trafficked. Under legalization they’ll be …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:15 PM
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It is about safety. Sex trafficking increases when it’s legalized, but the same has not been found when it’s Decriminalized. Taxes can be avoided either way, by just accepting cash from customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:49 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:47 PM
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How would higher human trafficking inflow save more victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:46 PM
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https://humantraffickinghotline.org/what-human-trafficking/human-trafficking/victims Keep that same energy when it’s you, your child or family member.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:45 PM
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Hmm this makes a little more sense. Even then though, it’s mostly just a problem if you’re making character judgements and being loud about what you like. If you’re just quietly avoiding men who don’t fit what you want, or women who don’t fit what you want it’s a non issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:43 PM
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I wouldn't want my hypothetical daughter to do many jobs, and just because this is so doesn't mean that the professions I may consider beneath my daughter's dignity should be prohibited. So absolutely none of them should be prohibited? Not even the ones that are blatantly exploitative and put workers at risk of inhumane treatment? Which is why legalization would afford those women protection from abuses and harm. This would also expand sexual liberty. Decriminalization does this, not legalizatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:50 AM
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I don’t understand why that’s a bad thing? Do you just offer romantic commitment to any and all women who approach you? Or do you only offer it to those who meet whatever standards you have? It’s probably the same for those FDS women. Sexually or romantically interacting with men you have no genuine interest in does a disservice to yourself and the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:33 AM
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Many are. There are still couples who wait until marriage to have sex, or who are each other’s first’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:30 AM
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Would you want to be a prostitute or would you want your daughter to be a prostitute? Not the apex kind either. There are sex workers themselves who speak against the trade and its not to spite sexually unsuccessful men. It’s because they know about the abuses that go on first hand. Many non sex worker women feel the same. They’ve heard the stories or seen the horrors of the dark side of sex work. It’s why not all are flat out sex work entirely. They just prefer decriminalization vs legalization…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:29 AM
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If a guy has this mindset I usually just pay the whole bill, make an excuse to go our separate ways, then ghost and block him when I get home. Being adamant about only cheap dates signals to me that he’s trying to do exactly what you were trying to do, sleep around. I’m not interested in doing that so I just avoid those kind of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:14 AM
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Not many virgin women. They’d probably assume he’s a virgin for similar reasons as themselves. Even non virgin women would probably just assume he’s devoutly religious or something before assuming he’s a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:12 AM
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I think him living in his parents basement is more of what makes him a loser than his virginity in their eyes. If he had his own place and a stable job but was a virgin at 35 virgin women wouldn’t view him as a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:35 AM
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If they did their best to vet but their partner changed or was a master manipulator then it’s the abusive partners fault not the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:32 AM
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I don’t think most men actually think sex is easy or fun work. Which is why they aren’t running in droves to do it. They just say that to troll. Or play oppression olympics because they feel men have it harder in economically depressed situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:47 AM
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😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:30 PM
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I think it’s going to be going for a while. Someone just did it again less than 20 minutes ago 😂😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:29 PM
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specially on FDS, where women claim open relationships are a way for men to sleep around without consecuences (!). Like they actuallly think men can use the open relationship card to get laid. Fuckboys are fuckboys but fuckboys aren't in open relationships. At this very same moment there is for sure some woman on the internet claiming she opened the relationship and her boyfriend took advantage of it. Who are they dating? A stone cold 10? They don’t even need to be a 10 if the man is an 8+ he ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:26 PM
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Probably because a lot of people here don’t read full posts when they’re more than a paragraph. They’ll read the title and skim the body.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:22 PM
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Lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:16 PM
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It’s not a personal attack. It’s just nosiness. If you’re speaking from experience what was your specific experience. People are better equipped to give advice that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:13 PM
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From Purple Pill, Blue Pill, No Pill and the 12 Red Pillers here that can actually answer questions without getting offended. Everyone else? Not so much. So that means it was answered straight then. Why aren’t the answers from these groups sufficient?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:11 PM
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Right? They didn’t even wait to have a lot posts in between some of the iterations are literally back to back😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:08 PM
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Training her? Is she overweight or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:53 AM
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The one time I tried it. It didn’t go well. It was my first relationship and I didn’t think I could do any better because I was convinced I was hideous due to bullying. He was nice enough, so I just went with him but I wasn’t attracted to him at all and we didn’t really have much in common. The whole time in the relationship I felt like I had imposter syndrome and sex was painful because I wasn’t really aroused by him and only doing it cause he would beg me to. The feeling of imposter syndrome, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:48 AM
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I figured as much. Sorry, I was using you in the general sense, not referring to you specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:45 PM
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Your feelings can be hurt. Many people are disappointed and hurt after getting rejected but normal people would just move on. It makes no sense to rage. You can put that time and energy into finding another guy you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:53 PM
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Is it SFW information?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 08:35 PM
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Yeah but why would she rage about it instead of just propositioning another man she finds attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 08:31 PM
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What does LGBFJB stand for?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 08:30 PM
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Horrible?? You’re free to have your opinion but I don’t agree. I’ve only had bad really bad experiences in cities and even then they’re rare. There are guys that keep pushing and pestering to turn a no into a yes, follow women and girls, or worse turn violent. But, they aren’t the majority of men. Most men will be a little awkward and nervous at worst. Maybe they’ll express a little disappointment if you say no but, they’re harmless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:11 PM
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What they do. I made another comment with the link to the breakdown
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:44 PM
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No problem!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:51 PM
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Then dating apps will just become more popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:51 PM
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Ok 😂😂 sorry it’s hard for me to tell sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:26 AM
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I’m going to assume you’re being sarcastic or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:21 AM
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NY Street harassment laws. The girls had school uniforms on too so if they’re under 17 I’m sure there’s something for that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:21 AM
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That’s his business.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:16 AM
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I’d argue most men are respectful when they approach. It’s just that the guys who aren’t are very busy. They have no lives so they just harass dozens of women and girls a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:45 AM
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None whatsoever!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:42 AM
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I think they know they just don’t care. Some of them have already done time too, so they’re fearless. The craziest thing I’ve ever seen was a guy sitting outside his stoop in NYC catcalling girls with an ankle monitor on. Just absolute reckless behavior because all it would take is one person to find out who his parole officer is and call about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:36 AM
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Sorry I don’t support racists or any form of bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 02:33 AM
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It won’t have an effect on anyone but those guys who catcall on obnoxiously and/or follow a woman to try and convince her. I’ve only really seen this in big cities. So it’s not really going to affect anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:43 AM
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The same applies even when they want to get married. Most look for like minded men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:24 AM
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Whether or not they’re unrealistic solely depends on how likely the person is to attract individuals with the qualities they seek. If it’s really impossible they’ll accept being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:23 AM
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Imo they project more a diligaf attitude. They don’t bother people, until someone tries to make moral or character judgements based on their promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:12 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/r6nb32/objectively_does_red_pill_have_real_life/hmutw4q/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 He did a great break down on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:10 AM
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What do you mean if high n women did the same? Are you saying if they begged for acceptance men would find them less annoying? Or did I misread this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:58 PM
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I’ll find the comment and share but someone here did a study breakdown to show women actually don’t do that. Most people tend to prefer partners with similar n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:55 PM
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Fair point. Personally I’ve tried it and certain things just gross me out too much to deal with so I only date guys who don’t do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:28 PM
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I’m still not seeing how this is entitlement. It’s women going after what they like. If you feel men aren’t allowed the same freedom start a movement to encourage men to go after what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:42 PM
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As long as they’re not rude about them it’s not really an issue. It’s worse for both parties to string a guy along knowing you’re not into him. Or trying to force things with a guy when there’s no sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 08:45 PM
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Yeah that seems scary. You haven’t even know them long enough to check out their vibe and intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 07:38 PM
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Usually a match turns into a date if they comment on something in my profile or after talking for a brief time we find that we have similar interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 07:35 PM
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It’s much easier said than done. It’s why a lot of women just opt for dating men who don’t give them the ick
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 07:18 PM
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There’s no point in stressing yourself out getting mad. You can only control your behavior. If someone wants to blame you for something another black person did and throw it in your face then they lack critical thinking skills and they shouldn’t be taken seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 07:16 PM
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They’re comparing black and white. So it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 07:14 PM
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They’re referring to some of the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 07:09 PM
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Do black people engaging in other unsavory behaviors irritate you this much? We’re not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 07:04 PM
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Black people on average do not have higher levels of testosterone than white people on average. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/7/2519/2598282
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 07:02 PM
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Why does this bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:56 PM
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It’s a minority. Most black people get with other black people and I say this as a bw who dates interracially. My black girlfriends are supportive, but the thought of doing so themselves grosses most of them out. The majority of them are into black men only. For the 2 that would date out only one would be ok with dating white men. The other would only date other minority race men. The preference is stronger from the female side than the male side but overall black people prefer other black peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:56 PM
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If you’re making the argument that it’s completely subconscious maybe. In actuality though it can happen whether or not the person is more attractive than you. Just seeing one thing they do will dry you up even if the attraction was previously there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:52 PM
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Well yeah. Getting a ick doesn’t mean you have to be mean to the guy about it. Just quietly and politely move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:40 PM
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No, I mean what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:38 PM
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There are women who don’t like coffee or alcohol. So they would have a problem with coffee or drinks as a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:38 PM
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That’s my point lol. She can find a guy who she does like that doesn’t give her the ick because of little things. I’ve experienced something similar not over chopsticks though. I’ve tried to force myself to stop thinking about it and keep liking the guy, but it never works. So sometimes moving on is the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 05:23 PM
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Oh ok, my apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 05:00 PM
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Or she can just find a guy she likes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:54 PM
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After googling, a lot of women would pass that man up. Whether he was republican or not. Women have different physical types.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:53 PM
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I don’t understand how this is entitlement? People like what they like. As long as you’re not telling someone how/what they should be/or do, is it really an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:51 PM
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It varies per woman but it’s tremendously easy. I have to say I’m guilty of the same behaviors as your friend. If I don’t like something be posted on social media, the scent of his cologne, how he chooses to handle farting/burping etc it can turn me right off even if I was feeling him prior. I don’t know why though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:47 PM
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I’m not referring to the chemistry. Should’ve made that more clear, I’m talking about figuring out their interests so you can plan a first date that they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:01 PM
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I also know plenty of women who own nothing but heels who wouldn’t want to get their feet dirty with sand. So what? I’m generalizing. Of course there’s exceptions to everything but the main point is that you keep avoiding is that you have to know what type of person you’re dealing with. You’re not compatible with high maintenance women, so date low maintenance women. Neither type of woman is bad, they’re just different and there are types of men that are compatible with each.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:00 PM
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They choose to be that way. If they wanted to, it’d be easy to choose to stop being that way. Anyway are you a racist or fascist? Why are you defending bigotry so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:58 PM
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Sureeeee
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:56 PM
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Yours definitely was. None of the poor qualities listed are hard to avoid doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:56 PM
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Yes, that’s awesome for low maintenance people. Others may prefer a dinner date, museum date etc. Personally I like doing something. Bike riding or bowling because I don’t drink coffee or alcohol. Different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:49 AM
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It doesn’t mean there’s something wrong. Some people just like what they like lol. Some peoples idea of a good time is having a multitude of fine dining and traveling experiences, for others it’s doing challenging physical activities, and then for some it’s just sitting together chatting over drinks/coffee. Nothing is wrong with any of those things. They’re all valid. Just find the kind of people who’s likes match yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:08 AM
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You can find out a little bit of their interests and stuff before the date though so you’ll know what they like. If I’m the one that initiates a date I’ll plan it based on the information I found out about beforehand. I personally prefer doing activities. So before the date I inquire about their likes and dislikes to come up with satisfactory suggestions. Of course you’re not going to know all that much until the actual in person conversation. However finding out if they like games or not, if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:02 AM
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Oh wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 05:59 AM
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No, I mean what I said. High maintenance. They maintain their own lifestyles. It’s just the life style they prefer is more expensive and luxurious. They’re also called “bougie” by some. The rest of what you said doesn’t negate anything I said. Your premise is great for low maintenance people, who want low key relationships. Different strokes for different folks though. So as I said, you have to know what type of woman is your audience and adjust accordingly. A super dressy woman with expensive t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 05:57 AM
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It can help in a grand scale sense as well. Each sex learning the others communication style can help us to understand why men/women process and deal with things the way they do and reduce frustration over feeling like the other sex us doing things the “wrong” way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:59 AM
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A good middle ground to this would be each gender learning to “code switch” Tbh I don’t know how much merit there is in this claim but I’ll just roll with it for arguments sake. Each sex communicating differently can/will lead to miscommunications that can cause quarreling. So both learning how to communicate like the other or at the very least how to comprehend the other sexes communication style can only help. It will reduce conflict because it will enable you to understand where the other par…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:49 AM
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I don’t think they do. They’re just applying their interpretation of the low effort date justification in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:06 AM
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Do people not text before hand to get to know a little bit about the person?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:59 AM
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Yeah the advice is written by women for women. It’s also written with a certain type of women in mind and it works as intended. It weeds out all the men that would be incompatible with a higher maintenance woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:57 AM
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Honestly the issues with walk/coffee dates are just about knowing your audience. Some women are high maintenance, some are low maintenance. You have to know what kind of woman you’re dating and what kind of things she’d be comfortable with. If you’re dealing with a woman who only owns nothing but heels, a walk date would be unwise and going out for coffee wouldn’t cut it as an actual date. Since that’s more than likely just part of her daily routine anyway and it seems more like you’re just tagg…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:56 AM
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I see it really struck a nerve. Lol. I’m sorry that not being a piece of shit is such an arduous and impossible task for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:30 AM
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Why did you comment the same thing more than once?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:29 AM
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They’re only considered ideals to people who can not adequately regulate themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:28 AM
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Ok I see what you’re saying. This is like a patch of crops vs the whole farm. I’m speaking on one aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:37 PM
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So what was the relevance of this comment? I’m talking about the requirements for healthy relationships. Not tinder hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:34 PM
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Are those healthy relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:55 AM
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😊
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:55 AM
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Yeah he goes out and works, let her stay home for a year after each pregnancy and works hard to provide. On paper he’s an excellent catch. A hardworking provider and very loving, involved and doting father and grandfather. However he’s also a cheater. He’s matured in the fact that after my grandma left him he was more careful to not get other women pregnant. I don’t want to get too long winded but as a husband he’s kind of shitty. He also preaches the same stuff to my younger male family members…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:00 AM
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for a healthy relationship. A catfish tinder experiment about casual hookups does not fall under that parameter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:58 AM
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Not being selfish, bigoted and perverse(or whatever you think the female version of this is) isn’t perfection lol. It’s the bare minimum traits you should possess for a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:50 AM
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How was he boring? Personally I don’t think anyone is really boring. It just takes a bit more work to get the juicy stuff out of some people than others if they’re shy/introverted. What made the guy you went out with boring though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:48 AM
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Maybe he means aggressive but not with extra explicit or degrading additions. Like “After I’m done fucking the shit out you later bitch” or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:46 AM
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That’s not digging deeper. Using my own family as an example. My grandpa and step grandma. They have an rp marriage. To strangers you’d think they were a happy loving couple married for 30 years. She projects the image of a perfectly doting, loving wife. When you actually get to know them though. You see that my grandpa is happy because he gets treated great, but my step grandma is secretly miserable as hell. She just treats him well because she thinks that’s what she’s supposed to do because my…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:42 AM
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It depends on if you see the guy as worth it or not. Women do stay single when they feel the man isn’t worth the trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 06:14 PM
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It’s not my interpretation. It’s what I’ve had explicitly said to me. I used to tell manosphere guys that being kind but assertive and confident could yield you the same results as being an asshole. Then I was promptly shut down and shown studies about how bullies get more sex and the like. So idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 06:11 PM
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No, but you’ll see posts of them saying their affair partners awakened a passion that was missing with their spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:17 PM
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and found a partner who unlocked their sexuality. Only women write that. This, you won’t find it on dead bedrooms but you’ll find similar stories on the affair subreddit if you comb through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:11 PM
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An alpha is an asshole bad boy. At least according to the manosphere as they frequently post studies about how bullies are more sexually successful, and how dark triad traits work better for sexual success. So you can’t be a nice alpha. Obama wouldn’t be an alpha in manosphere standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:49 PM
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It was a direct question. You couldn’t answer it. You’re here in bad faith. Have a good day though 🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:31 PM
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So you can’t answer a direct question. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:28 PM
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So you think people are just blindly making choices with no intentions behind them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:25 PM
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It’s what you’re looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:22 PM
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Here you go: https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-men-are-settling-for-mrs-good-enough “A whopping 31 percent of adult men said they’d commit to a person they were not in love with—as long as as she had all the other attributes they were looking for in a mate—and 21 percent said they'd commit under those same circumstances to somebody they weren't sexually attracted to.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:22 PM
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Look in the Reddit for affair partners, you’ll see men write some interesting stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:16 PM
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It’s not very very few men though. It’s about the same for each gender but a lot of men on here don’t like to talk about their side of things. Bringing it up is just driving discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:15 PM
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There is a lot toxic about dread, “training” your partner, keeping them in your frame etc. I don’t want that in my life. You can try and make the case that all rp men aren’t like that but I’m not interested in playing Russian roulette
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:06 PM
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That’s what they say. Until you dig deeper into those “happy marriages”. I want a real happy marriage with love and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:04 PM
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Personally I just take it at face value. There’s a lot of stylish handsome men in NYC. Some are successful, some are living average lives, others are one bad day away from destitution. So that’s taught me how well someone is dress tells you nothing about the kind of life they’re living.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:16 PM
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I wouldn’t. I like my peace and when I have kids I want them to see their parents happy,open and loving with each other. Dating an rp man would mean the kids would be raised in a toxic home with mind games always being played. No thanks. Plus aren’t most rp men against marriage and ltrs anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:02 PM
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Those terms come out when the man tries to defend his preference with off base moral or character judgements. If he simply has his preference, no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:52 PM
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You and the op do. It’s why you made comments to criticize, criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:50 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:50 PM
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I don’t think so. The market for men is just more controversial, not necessarily larger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:25 PM
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You’d think lol. Steve Harvey, Matthew Hussey, Derrick Jaxn(before the scandal) and many more became millionaires off teaching “game” to women. Similar to Rollo Tomassi, entrepreneurs in cars and other male dating coaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:58 AM
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There are. They’re just quieter about it than men. There’s a lot of dating coaches for women that make bank off of teaching women to be more appealing to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:52 AM
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You do vet. Part of that vetting is seeing their past behavioral conduct and then deciding if you feel they’ve truly changed and are worth this risk, or if you’d rather pass on dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:45 AM
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The end result is the same so I don’t really understand why you’re more focused on the journey to get there?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:49 AM
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Let's say this person has the perfect marriage, but then learns on their deathbed their spouse was open to the possibility of casual sex decades ago, before they even met. Is the marriage ruined? For some people it would be, they’d feel their spouse lied to them. It would lead them to question other things. Because people are confusing unnecessary and irrelevant criteria with "values," and then miss out on things they would have enjoyed had they been ignorant of certain information. And that’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:48 AM
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Because it's a misinterpretation and ends up making the world a worse place to live in. It’s not. You’re assuming it’s a misinterpretation. Some people don’t want to date people who are into casual sex in any capacity. It doesn’t matter to them if the person is only looking for casual sex or if the person is looking for casual sex and more. There is still a misalignment of sexual values. How does it make the world as worse place to live in? It’s not as is everyone feels this way about casual sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:17 AM
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There have always been women who internalized hatred of men due to sex though. The form of it just looks different and men are just more privy to it now because of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:09 AM
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It did, those men were just their husbands who they couldn’t easily divorce because no fault laws didn’t exist. They also had those conversations among other women and not within earshot of men. They’d vent to their mother, sisters or girlfriends. Now they vent to the internet and the men they’re complaining about are flings not husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 12:37 AM
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