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Question for RedPillPresident-Togekiss/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:32 PM
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Free plastic surgeries for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:53 PM
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Depends on the definition of lie. Does someone need to not believe the things they say for it to be a lie? I do believe a lot of people have convinced themselves their attractions are more pure and good than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:28 PM
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My mom always told me not to get fat because women don't like fat guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:05 PM
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We aren't the ones who lied to you. I am not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:03 PM
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You can blame both sides. We are not the ones who gaslit you (I'm a man), we are criticizing you for being naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:01 PM
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I mean, two thing can be true. They were gaslighting (both you and themselves), and the fact you didn't pick up on it was a sign you are socially stunted. Its like being scammed. Yes you are the victim, but part of being smart is not falling for it. Keep in mind I am myself socially stunted in many areas - but not when it comes to being skeptical of people's words.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:59 PM
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The term male gaze doesnt assume female gaze doesnt exist. Male gaze has simply been more common until recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:58 PM
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Honestly a much better answer would be "Go to the gym", it won't fix everything but it will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:56 PM
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Probably only because everyone got fat in the last 50 years. I think this was much less of a problem back when everyone was thin. But a lot of guys seem to have gaslit themselves into believing women don't like skinny guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:55 PM
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You really wouldn't be forgiven for trusting empty words and not actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:53 PM
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The point isn't that they weren't say incorrect things. They were obviously gaslighting even themselves. The point is that you should have never believed it, and why did you when reality was so clearly contradicting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:52 PM
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But like, I am autistic. And I clearly saw that actions didn't match words so I discarded the words.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:49 PM
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I guess my family was more honest in that regard. My mother used to tell me: "Don't get fat, son. Women don't like fat guys"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:47 PM
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Women are taught not to be shallow and be kind. But that doesnt stop one's sexuality. So they gaslight themselves into believing something that isn't true. In a way it reminds me of dudes who have regular sex with other men but still gaslight themselves into claiming they are straight. It exists to protect people's identity from the cosmic horror that is knowing the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:43 PM
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Why did you believe their words over there obvious actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:40 PM
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Because they are gaslighting themselves duh. They Want to not care about shallow physical traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:39 PM
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This is very true. A lot of incels have a very twisted idea of what a "mid" man actually looks like. They'll rate absolutely mongrel looking men as "mid". This is why it pays for most men to have at least one male gay friend who can ACTUALLY tell them how attractive they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:00 AM
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I think a lot of young men really struggle with that: they would rather find a partner by offering money than by shifting their personality and looks, because that is way harder. But they dont understand that offer is no longer in the table. Some people will respond to this by claiming that you cant change the fundamental aspects of your looks, but while that can be true for things like height and dick size, its mostly untrue: make up and plastic surgery also work for men after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:56 AM
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There is an important difference: One of the arguments for why the 80/20 difference is bad is because it leaves women with experiences with hot chads that normal dudes simply cant compete with. It leaves them worse by comparison. But the reality is that most of these women arent actually sluts. They are femcels who just kinda of hate you, and still hate you even when they are virgins, which they are at ironically higher rates than their sisters and mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:50 AM
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There is an important difference: One of the arguments for why the 80/20 difference is bad is because it leaves women with experiences with hot chads that normal dudes simply cant compete with. It leaves them worse by comparison. But the reality is that most of these women arent actually sluts. They are femcels who just kinda of hate you, and still hate you even when they are virgins, which they are at ironically higher rates than their sisters and mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:49 AM
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The whole point is that the modern GenZ chad isnt wasting his time with 6s. EVERYONE is having less sex, not just ugly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:42 AM
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The lower number of friends and high loninless is not exclusive to women. Its a feature of the modern generation. People have less friends than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:40 AM
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By "daddy goverment" do you mean the existence of formal police force? I feel like a lot of the things that the goverment did to more or less "replace" the role a man would do in an ancient society are very basic things like police, imparcial courts and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:38 AM
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Another big issue is a strange mixture of red pill ideology mixed with trad ideology that can really muddle the discourse, because you dont actually know what people actually believe in. Because even as I oppose both, I aknowledge they are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:27 AM
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Single dad doesnt botter me nearly as much as all the other ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:10 PM
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Alternatively, if you have any bisexual leanings whatsoever but are struggling because its not what you enviosined for yourself, maybe its time to give dating men a shot (I mean this 100% without irony)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:38 AM
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I think thought experiments are important to flash out what we really believe and prioritize in the end. Because in the end, somethings are always gonna be more important than others, and I want to KNOW. Its my tism
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 04:32 PM
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None of these matter if the dude is ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 10:38 AM
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That is a though one. My mother is a bit like that and I still love her. Theres pretty much no woman in the world that would get along with my mother, so might as well get a good looking one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:32 AM
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I dont find that option realistic for most people. I probably could if I wanted, but thats not a realistic solution for every man because some men are poor. Specially since Im south american, so most people are poor
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:45 PM
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I respect that. We all get what we pay for
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:39 PM
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I respect but cant relate. Id rather have the step kid than the ugly wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:38 PM
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Im saying that beauty IS my principle. I am not a conservative. My values simply dont place enough priority on purity to compensate an ugly women. I simply dont place enough value on virginity to make the sacrifices you make for it worth it. Its a nice bonus when its there, but its way lower on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:37 PM
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Once she becomes ugly and old my own hormones will have fallen and I wont care anymore. But while I still crave sex often, than I want a beautiful wife. Its very simple: to me in a long term relationship, Sex is KEY. I am a sexual man and I place huge priority on having an active, pleasurable sex. Its not the ONLY thing that matters, but it IS important to me. So when I hear "Id rather be with a disgusting looking woman over having a stepkid" I simply cant relate to that feeling. As long as I ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:33 PM
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I find that questionable. It is VERY important to me that the person Im in a long term relationship is hot. Im willing to tolerate a lot of undesirable traits that would lower that RMV for sufficient hotness. Who decided what counts for that RMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:24 PM
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But my argument doesnt change. If a beautiful woman who would never pay attention to you becomes a single mother, that means that your options have now INCREASED. Now you have the options between a good looking wife with a stepkid or an ugly wife without one, whereas before you only had the later.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:22 PM
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"Lose the combative attitude" is doing a lot of work here. That is usually code for "completely adopt my political views and abandon your own"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:16 PM
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But the thing is that in your response you're pressuposing that being a single mother is more of a letdown than, say, being ugly. If you arent a handsome guy, and you only choose women who are virgins, than by definition you choice is gonna be ugly women. And I personally care about beauty way more than sexual inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:12 PM
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Im taking about a lower class relationship. I think its fair to filter for a partner who wants to have kids, but in my experience single moms are not any less likely to want more kids than childless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:03 PM
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Because sexual attraction isnt only important for casual sex. You need to be attracted to the person you plan on being with. I REALLY care about beauty. On contrast, Im a big hearted guy and I can grow to care for a childless kid. So, to me, a stepkid with a BEAUTIFUL wife, above my league looks wise, is a much better deal than a marriage to a virgin, but ugly wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:01 PM
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I mean, I have met MANY women with a low self-steem. I have known multiple women lamenting they are less beautiful because they gained weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:51 PM
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It is for the guy at the bottom who would be alone otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:49 PM
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I get, but in the beta bucks example, am I also not settling for her? Like if we are both settling for each other, how I can judge her for settling for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:47 PM
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True, but Im specifically pointing this to the men who otherwise wouldnt have a chance with those women if it werent for their lowered status.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:46 PM
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What if your only two options were a gorgeous single mom or an absolutely hideous virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:45 PM
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I guess it depends on what your priorities are. I care a lot about beauty, and Id rather have a stepkid with a beautiful partner than an ugly partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:44 PM
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I dont agree with it either. I just find it very unrealistic. Like if a super hot girl suddently becomes a single mom, the average dude now has a better chance with her than he ever did when she was a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:43 PM
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I mean, I guess I cant relate to the idea of rather being alone than having a step kid. Dont get me wrong, step kids are a mess, but I really dont want to be alone. I do have a question for you though: in what way does it benefit most women to remain virgins under that social contract? Because if they are going to be forced to settle for someone below their desired standards, I fail to see what value they gain from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:42 PM
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I mean, if you had to put a gun to my head and forced me to pick between "being alone forever" and "having a stepkid" Id choose the stepkid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:08 PM
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But my point is that the only reason that is only an option for lower value men IS because she isna single mother. If she wasnt, they wouldnt even have the option. And a lot of men would prefer a non-ideal relationship over being alone no?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:48 PM
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Thats true, but a lot of men wouldnt be able to get wirh a woman if there werent single moms. Like I understand if most men dont want to make that choice, but if anything the existence of single moms is a boon for those on the bottom who are willing to swallow their pride for the sake of winning. Like a lot of men see a single mother online and immediatly lament her existence, but the only think that would make them even have a chance with her is that she is a single mother. If she was a virgina…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:44 PM
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Actually it was the farmers that exterminated the hunter-gatherers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:42 PM
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But by that logic we cant conclude that "all suceseful societies in human history were pathriarchal" because the single most suceseful civilization that has ever existed, that of today, hasnt fallen yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:38 PM
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Define suceseful. Our modern day society is on average 10x times as rich as two centuries ago. In fact, even the poorest nations in the world are richer than the richest nations were 400 years ago. We also live in the age with the least amount of murders in history. Criminality used to be easily 10 times what it is now. We live longer than ever, we are freer than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:35 PM
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The abolition of all gender based double standards, different treatment, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:13 AM
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I dont disagree, Im just saying it wasnt the idea of women. That being said Im more than confortable sending women to die in the warzones if thats what it takes to get true equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 02:39 AM
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And thr conscription was still a thing in the times of the Ukranian SSR.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:38 AM
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No, its patriarchical oppresion because it comes from the "benevolent" sexist idea that men are more suited for war. It was an idea made by men, not women, to control other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:37 AM
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Except for the fact that male conscription is something that is older than democracy, and is present even in dictatorships and places women cant vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:36 AM
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I think this makes sense, though as a gay man, I cant understand why straight women would prefer old fucks over virile young adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:40 PM
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What the male loneliness epidemic is or isnt about isnt really settled. If you ask the men in this thread, 50% will agree with you and the rest will say that it is about romantic relationships actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:38 PM
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I agree with this. It feels like men often want A girlfriend, and almost any woman can fill that role. Whereas women want SPECIFIC men to date. None of these are better mind you. Being too specific may lead a person to exclude otherwise good matches, and being too open might leave you desperate when single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:36 PM
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I agree that everyone deserves and craves love, but dont speak for all men when you talk about us not needing friends. I quite need friends, in no small part because I find the idea of only relying on a single person for support (my partner) to be deeply unwise. I enjoy doing things with my friends my partner isnt interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:32 PM
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Depends on how good your self steem is. If you're really confident, you can just tell her "No actually you're wrong, Im awsome". Sometimes it pays off to be a little narcisistic. Its like a shield.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:07 PM
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Women do make create support networks with the aim of protecting themselves from men they dont trust. They have those networks, and that incidently allows them to become less dependent on any one individual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:40 PM
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Sim, eu so acho importante notar a diferença entre "elas amam gringos" e "elas amam loiros", porque com exceção de algumas regiões da Alemanha e dos países nordicos, a maioria dos gringos tem cabelo e olhos marrons mesmo. Tipo eu sou um homem que gosta de homens, e realmente, se viesse um cara irlandes ruivo falar comigo, eu provavelmente daria mole mesmo ele sendo meio feio, porque é exotico. Mas se ele literalmente so tiver a mesma aparencia de um brasileiro medio, nao seria nada especial.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:32 PM
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Sim, mas isso só vale se o cara tiver alguma característica que atice o fetiche: ser loiro, ou coreano, etc. As brasileiras não vão "servir" um gringo simplesmente se for gringo se ele não tiver nada de exotico.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:21 PM
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But again, that doesnt change the point that this conversion started from though. Her points is that these men hate and resent women too much to ever be happy in their company, specially ones the actually have acess to that arent southeast asian sugar babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:06 PM
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Even if that is true its not mutually exclusive. Two people can hate one another at the same time. Your point in no way contradicts what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:37 AM
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In fact, if these men are so lonely, why do they still insist in holding political ideologies and ideals that only serve to further alienate them from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:06 AM
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But the point still stands. The only option that most men have is precisely those feminists. Her point is that those men wont get companionship from women because they hate them, or at least 90% of real women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:04 AM
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Since when?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:05 PM
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I've talked to many women on this subject, and they are in favor of this precisely BECAUSE it removes the attention of incels from them. Lonely sexually frustrated men are a danger, not just to women but to the stability of a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:53 PM
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The issue with this, besides the morality of lying of course, is that its a questionable gambit. There are many stories of guys pretending to be child-free to attract a child-free women, expecting her to change her mind, only to become frustrated after spending YEARS and it not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:28 PM
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But is he CHOOSING to not sleep with many women, or is that something that life is already forcing on him? Because there are plenty of stories of men aaking for open marriages only to find out that they arent desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:48 PM
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In our closest relatives its likely even less. Chimps and gorillas usually have harems of females.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:46 PM
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But in that case, arent the less desirable women simply lowering themselves to the point where they are willing to actually settle for less than 20% top men? In that case the relationship works only because both partners are settling. The woman for the men lower than 8 and the man for a woman older than 30. What exactly is the motivation here for women to NOT sleep around. Would they get higher quality men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:23 PM
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But in this example, isnt the woman over 30 also not the guys second choice? He is simply lowering his standards just like she did, because he would have prefered a woman below "the wall". Its why so many dudes, when they get money or lose wieght, dump their gfs for younger models. The only difference is that most of these men never had one to get away, but they also pin for Stacy MacStacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:38 PM
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My issue with this is: plenty of redpill ideology tells me that the reason women have power over men is that men basically have no standards. But if men dont have standards, how do they stop being attracted to women over 30? And if women over 30 are inherently less powerful in the dating market, what is stoping all those incels from getting with them? Are they actually just volcels?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:25 PM
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Women can, in fact, be bad at bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:07 PM
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You people are boring. Making other people cum is FUN because they are completely under your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:03 PM
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I guess my question to you would be: what do we do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:36 PM
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"The only way to fix this is by hot guys not being so eager to hook up". You realise how unrealistic that sound right? It would be easier to give people free plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:34 PM
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No. And hopefully never will
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:32 PM
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I mean, hate exercise too but I still go everyday to be more handsome (or at least less ugly). Beauty is pain after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:18 PM
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The issue is that most dudes I've seen in these spaces dont have deformed ugly faces. Just regular ones. When do have ugly faces, a lot of the time its the result of being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:33 PM
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When did we agree as a society that doing things like partying is a sign of freedom and singleness and not simply something people do because they enjoy it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:27 PM
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The difference is that Tinder has the sole purpose of attracting sexual mates. Whereas people like to get drunk and party even when it doesnt lead to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:38 PM
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I can understand why some people believe that, but I don't understand how they reach the conclusion that this is consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:36 PM
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The thing that bugs me honestly, is that if everything repillers and blackpillers said was true, you'd see a lot more lonely, short men with ugly faces but killer muscular bodies. Like people treat "being attractive" as being a purely genetic thing, but when you actually take a look at the guys saying it, the vast majority of them are out of shape, have no muscle definition and have terrible looking skin. For every truly unfuckable dude with physical defformities and stunted growth there are thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:54 PM
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True. Im perfectly fine with that. Saving some money myself to get some hyaluronic acid injections to get a manlier chin😁
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:41 PM
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Why are men so resistent to plastic surgery anyway? Of course it cant fix things like height, but it sure can help things like chin and face.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:36 PM
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Maybe not most. But the fact pick up channels have such high viewership clearly shows that a lot of fuys do have that delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:26 PM
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You'd think so, but there are delusional incels who think life is like a videogame and they can woo women by pressing the correct sequence of buttons
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:16 PM
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FINNALY. someone gets it. Its the same logic of a guy being a simp for a woman way out of his league. The women arent attracted to being mistreated, hot guys simply can get away with more. Hell, even a woman who has an ick for men who cry will get over it if the dude is attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:14 PM
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I dont approve of that lie being told. We should be realistic as a goal on itself. But to me falling for this is like falling for a nigerean prince scam: as in, I struggle to realize how someone can be so guillable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:27 PM
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So what? Why NOT choose the golden rule here? Treat others as you would like to be treated. Sure, she can loose the weight, but why is your first instinct to engage in opression olympics?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:18 PM
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We should unironically pass legislation greatly refucing added sugar on food.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:16 PM
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That doesnt change the logic. If you're being constantly rejected, you should offer other rejects compassion, instead of starting an opression olympics competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:15 PM
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Not really. The guys called incels are the ones who spouse red pill talking points, like hypergamy. If a guy simple says he has trouble finding dates because he's ugly, most people wont call him an incel, because to people outside the redpill communities, "incel" is an ideology. Its why you see married guys being called incels when they make comments that border the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:10 PM
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I mean, if you do buy that looks dont matter for dating, for either gender, then yes, you're kinda dumb. I'm an autistic guy and even I was never that dense. It feels more like a self-delusion people tell themselves because it makes them feel like they and the people around them are more enlightned than they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:05 PM
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I've seen it happen a lot on reddit, and it tends to specially come from women who hold internalized patriarchal beliefs, such as that women are more "pure" in their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:59 PM
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"Blue pill is mainstream society". Says who? You? Why do you get to decide what we believe? You dont get to discredit an ideology by projecting into it beliefs its members dont hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:57 PM
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We should strive for objectivity in all things, not excuse bad beahaviour based on a third party's mistakes. Yes Reddit is mysogenistic, but the women in AITA are also biased and need to be called out. Consistency is a value on itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:55 PM
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This is bad because bias is bad regardless of the consequences. You're making the argument that something like bias can be good if it has good comsequences. But that is ignoring what our priorities as a society: we a rational society built on scientific materialism. We value objectivity over whatever good consequences bias can bring because it allows us to more accuratly understand the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:50 PM
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This is an important point and its always important to realize our biases and try to combar our internalized sexism. However I fail to see why you think this is what the Blue Pill claims. Do you think Blue Pill just means "everything the red pill teaches but opposite"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:46 PM
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Ngl lie, that sounds deeply exausting. Dont get me wrong, I respect you a ton and you deserve this things, but if a partner did this for me Id likely not like it very much, Id only feel guilty. The one exception is the texts. I do like sending random texts during the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:07 PM
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Why do you value attractiveness in people you're not planning on sleeping with? If a woman was capable of offering intelectually engaging conversations, why would you need to be attracted to her anymore than to your male friends, who I assume you are also not attracted to? What exactly is the distinction here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:57 PM
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No shit. Those are delusional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:54 PM
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But why not just have a fuck buddy sistem them? You and the girl just agree to have sex every once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:51 PM
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But why go to the effort of, for example, live in the same house and share a bed? Cant you just agree to fuck every once in a while?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:49 PM
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But at that point why not just have a fuck-buddy hookup relationship? Why not just arrange a time to fuck every once in a while? Why live together? Why sleep in the same bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:47 PM
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Yeah, but you can just agree to meet regularly for sex like most animals that only talk during mating season. Why live together at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:46 PM
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Are they doing that? I though it was common knowldge. Testosterone increase the libido. Its why when trans men start taking it, one of the first things they notice is that they are suddently much hornier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:43 PM
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Clearly not enough if we see so many women partnering up with older overweight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:52 AM
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That being said, its kinda difficult to measure female sexual attractiveness in females and compare it with other animals because in most mammal species, sex is often forceful, where the female cant really refuse. So evolution selects males for their ability to violate females rather than by their ability to attract them. In fact you also see this in many hunter-gatherer primitive human societies, where young women are married off to older men against their will, or sometimes "used" communally. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:34 AM
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Do you mean physicality or wealth? Those are different things. I dont find it particularly bothersome that people are attracted to other people based on physical traits. You can do that and still be attracted to your equals. The issue with dating people who are older and wealtier is that they are not your equals or peers. I honestly would prefer if women selected mates by how big their biceps were than by how rich they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:25 AM
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No. We can provide free housing, knock down zoning laws, free healthcare and all other freely given goodies. If people's needs are broadly fulfilled, they are less likely to prioritize wealth in dating, and will start prioritizing other things, like physical attractiveness. We can also encourage young women, trough media, to favor men who are thin, which is much harder to achieve for an older man compared to a young man, as well as portray greying hair as ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:12 AM
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Im taking these claims at face value. I personally dont believe that is inherently the case. It could be culturally true but I dont believe it to be a natural reality of humankind. But if it is, than it needs to FIXED.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:18 PM
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Yes, and this solution also fixes that by giving young men more resources. I dont want this because I think older men are preying on younger women, but because I want to discourage materialistic, fetishistic dating as a whole. Im sure many of the people themselves are lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:33 PM
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Encouraging, trough social policy and economic subsidies, women to settle down with men their own age, thus reducing the number of relationships with significant age gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:02 PM
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Its what repillers say: younger women date older men because of their material advantage. Therefore the way to change it using that premise is by dealing with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 05:39 PM
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Probably nothing but it would reduce their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 04:44 PM
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The main difference is that Im not trying to force or pressure anyone into doing anything. I simply wish to undermine the material advantage older men have over younger men. I dont think women need to be dragged to therapy by their parents, but rather, as they do, and as their pears get have more resources, there will be less of an incentive to date older men, since, by the redpills own logic, it is done because older men are usually more sucsseful. No censorship, no forceful internation, no sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 04:44 PM
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Teach little girls to avoid older men and only date their pears. Increase subsidies for young people so there is less of a relative appeal of older men compared to young men. Encourage young men to go to them gym early Encourage therapy for young women so they can deal with their unresolved daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 04:15 PM
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But what is respect in your definition? Is refusing to allow a man to lead inherently disrespectful to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:31 PM
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No shit. Hot people can get away with things ugly people cant. Thats not some mystery or secret. If you're a girl who really loves abs, and you've only met ONE man in your life that likes you and has abs, you'd be more likely to give leniancy versus a fat guy because you want the abs. In fact this also shows in men: you see those random reddit stories where the OP sounds like an absolute simp and you dont understand why he wont leave his awful wife despite it being obvious he should? Its because…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:44 PM
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Oh yes. Those big fancy doorstopper books are my doom. I love them so much
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:30 PM
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This is only a problem because women have been brainwashed by patriarchy to desire unecessary wealth in a partner. The solution to this conundrum is for us men and women to not poison our daughters with that nonsense. People dont often say this because a lot of women react very poorly when confronted by their own internalized patriarcal expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:27 PM
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I dont approve of only dating a woman so she can be made dependent, but a lot of the times, people simply have cheap interests. I hate traveling and adventure, I hate cars, and my hobbies are cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:24 PM
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Men you would do great where I live. I come from a place in south america that is really poor. Your average american income here would be enough for 99% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:20 PM
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That is so alien to me. I hate traveling and cannot understand people who like it so much they are willing to factor it into major life decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:18 PM
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While it is true many men do love travelling, many dont. I personally hate traveling, and I dont understand people who factor they desire to travel into big life changes like who to date, wheter to have kids or anything really.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:15 PM
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Im not going to lie, I am not a very emphatetic person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:06 PM
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Than go marry another enlightened person, and leave the honor-bound to those who value it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:48 PM
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Oh I'm here because I'm fascinated by what goes on in other people's heads. And its so very entretaining to see the arguments that go around here and to see how people react to them, how they are constructed and desconstructed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:39 PM
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It can be somewhat offensive. However there is a reducing factor here: she doesnt know you well enough to actively know your moral character yet. Whereas the paternity test question we're talking about is usually in the context of a long relationship. If, for example, you had a one night stand with a girl and she came up pregnant, no one would find it objectionable for you to ask for a paternity test, because you dont know this woman well enough for her to have shown her character to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:35 PM
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"So men should be outraged at women who have a stash of money in case their husband turns abusive? " Yes. I would. "women are constantly insecure and constantly asking if they're pretty enough or good enough or that he doesn't find her fat, men shouldn't be simping and groveling at their feet just to make them feel better!" Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:24 PM
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You think this is a purely woman thing. I want this for myself as well. I want my "emotions to be coddled and managed" as you put it. Like isnt always sunshine and rainbows, but sometimes we need to pretend for things to have any value at all. The point of marriage is idealism. It is the "sunshine and rainbows". If that isnt present, if that sort of willing self-delusion is not present, than marriage is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:22 PM
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Yes. No shit tests. They are ridiculous and childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:45 AM
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Of course it is. Its an acusation of cheating. Any accusation of cheating is questioning of my moral dignity. I have a right to me ego. People marry because they want idealism and for someone to believe them implicitly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:19 AM
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Yes. No one marries to have their honor and dignity thrown in the mud
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:18 AM
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"ridiculous to expect some pandering proof of loyalty" Perhaps, but its what people WANT and the reason people marry. If you DONT have that, why marry at all? If you want realism, then marry another sad realist, and dont bring down those who want to dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:16 AM
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There is nothing irrational about not wanting to tie yourself to someone who doubts your moral character. It is perfectly rational to not longer wish to be in a partnership with someone who has shown themselves unreliable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:12 AM
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"healthy skepticism is a rational response to the realities of human behavior." Who needs damaged people like this? People want people who believe and have faith in them. No one marries because they want REALISM. If thats what someone has to offer why waste anyone's time?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:09 AM
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If she hasnt cheated before, she has the right to think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:04 AM
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If she hasnt cheated before, she has the right to think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:00 AM
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Because if you're a moral person who strives to be good, to have your moral dignity questioned is outrageous. Im not even a woman and I fully understand this. Its question of HONOR. How dare you, who ARE to question my honor? It is not anyone's responsability to throw their dignity in the mud to quell someone else's insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:56 AM
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Women dont like "bad men". Women, because they are human, like men who are muscular, rich and good in bed. They dont like "bad men" who are ugly and poor. And they'll find even the most boy-scout boy exciting if he has a six pack. Women cheat on their men because they got fat, but you wont hear that from redpil because they have convinced themselves that women dont care about beer guts. GO TO THE GYM AND CUT DOWN THE SODA.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:45 PM
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That is all true. But it also means he hasnt, in fact, done all he could. Specially the fat part. Most people for most of human history were very skinny. Im not saying everyone is obligated to do it. But it is very silly for me to see guys who very clearly cannot resist a pack of chips to save their lives claim "we've done all we can". For some reason, redpill guys often seen to be under the strange impression that women arent more attracted to guys who are fit, arent fat, arent balding, have go…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:29 AM
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Yeah putting it like that I kinda get it. I just find the discussion unproductive because people are sooo emotional over the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:59 AM
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They want to discuss builds to be used in the game, or to discuss theories on the game's lore, or post fanart.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 12:49 AM
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I'm not redpill and never will be and fully agree with your post, but this sub has taugh me something: a lot of women have REALLY internalized patriarchal ideals about gender and dating in a way even they dont seem to notice. So they spouse objectively CORRECT feminist theory, but their actions end up not MATCHING that theory (something that second wave and lesbian feminists, for all their maaaaany faults, have pointed out at times). You can have a woman be a fully progressive, body positive act…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:52 PM
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Are you shreded? Have you had plastic surgery? If not, then you're not as good as you could be. Its gets really tiring seeing guys who havent seen a threadmil in their lives act as if they've tried everything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:39 PM
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True but as the post says "You cant break that woman's delusion" by arguing with her Attraction, even delusional attraction, is not a moral decision, nor a rational one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:36 PM
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But what is the point of complaining here? The way to fix this disparity is for men to magically all raise their standards, or for women to collectively lower theirs, and just like the post said, neither of those is something that can be ARGUED into reality. You cant argue a guy into demanding more of a woman he is already attracted to, and you cant argue with a woman to be attracted to someone she isnt even if its delusional because attraction isnt a rational choice. The best way to "fix" this …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:34 PM
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Is this a bad thing? Im sure its true but I hope so because women only marrying men for money is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:11 PM
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In general, the reaction tends to be way worse when she is blindsided by the request. Its better to bring up the topic long before you ever have kids. Like a "Honey, before we get married, I just want you to know that I'll want a paternity test if we ever have kids". She might still freak out, but at least it saves you time. Its also useful to admit fault in these situations even if you personally dont believe that you are at fault, because it helps to disarm people. Dont say "Honey, I believe I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:08 AM
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The only case where I can see this happening is if the couple has an open relationship. In which case I would agree that freaking out when asked for a paternity test is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:00 PM
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Im simply saying that these two things ARE the same thing, only one is more severe than the other. And again, you are entitled to know that. You should do the paternity test if its a genuine worry. But not to have the person being accused not freak out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:57 PM
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If it is an acusation of cheating, it is a fundamental insult yes. Being accused of cheating without evidence is also a question of honor. It just doesnt usually hit as hard because cheating on someone is not as bad as cheating on them AND trying to pass of their baby as yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:47 PM
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Most people who read fantasy CANT use magic. But they are capable of seeing the appeal and would if physically possible. I think there is an important distinction here. Being incapable of an emotion means you cant picture the appeal of it. Its different from being physically incapable of something you want to do. Its more like showing porn to an asexual person. They are perfectly physically capable of it. They simply have no interest in it because its something alien to their experience of the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 09:02 PM
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No but I assume they like action. If women were incapable of feeling romantic love, what would be the appeal of romantic fiction? Its like how people who are asexual dont really care about porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:54 PM
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Also, and this is just a curiosity of mine, would this mean that gay relationships between two men are, by this metric, more loving than straight relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:43 AM
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How would you square up this hypothesis with the popularity of romance novels and series amongst the female population? It feels counter intuitive that women can be barely capable of romantic love at the same time as being the main consumers of fiction revolving around the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:17 AM
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But I want to punish them for doubting me without compeling evidence. I am OWED retaliation. I take great effort to act in a morally upright way. My character and my honour are important to me and any acusation is, by definition, an insult. I have no problem proving myself innocent, but when I do, because I will, I dont have any intention to be chummy. I EXPECT my partner to show proper shame and repetence that the innocent are OWED by the people who accuse them. Nothing burns quite as hot as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:28 PM
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I agree with that 100%. Its the reason I dont really work well with men who are naturally jealous. Because my typical response to any accusation is "are you putting my moral character into question?!" and it turns toxic really quickly because I do not know how to let it go even after I prove myself innocent. I am quite simply my worst self after being acussed of something I didnt do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:09 PM
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Checking the phone is not quite divorce worthy but I would book a session with a couples therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:03 PM
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Im not going to bitch if they make me take a drug test because I dont love the person doing it to me. They are not my partner. Therefore he his suspicion is perfectly normal as he is a stranger. Whereas my spouse is SUPPOSED to trust me, and if they dont, what is the purpose to be in a relationship? You are shifting the thing around. IT IS WORSE BECAUSE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO LOVE EACH OTHER. If the dude asking for a paternity test was a stranger after a hookup, there would be no need for anger at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:38 PM
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It doesnt. Thats why I said they should do it. Get the paternity tests. The issue here is that these guys arent ready for the consequences of making that question. You are entitled to ask for a paternity test. You are not entitled to tell your wife what is and is not an insult to her and how she should or should not react.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:39 PM
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I dont consider it such. I do consider it a judgment. Its simply not as offensive because everyone knows that no one is a perfecr driver. But a lot of people care a lot about being seen as good honest people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 03:37 PM
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They dont. Most people perfectly understand this. But understanding this doesnt mean they wont be offended at having their character questioned. Because the insult isnt about the kid at all, its about the honor of the woman. If you do a secret test and it turns out not to be yours, no one will judge you for it. But if turns out it is yours, then you accused a righteous woman of being a whore, and no one gets wrathful like the righteous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:31 PM
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Having your honor and dignity insulted is always a big deal, even if your turn out to be innocent. I dont understand what is the difficulty of understanding this. Asking for a paternity test is simply not a free action. You can do it, and should if you feel you need to, but unless the wife is a VERY chill person who is okay being insulted, it is going to be a bullet to your marriage, one it can survive or not. Most people think of themselves as honest and moral. They dont like having that put in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:41 PM
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You are projecting. I am a man. If was accused of doing something immoral and deceitful, I wouldnt be happy to obligue my acuser because "I'm honest". I would prove my innocence and then once that is done I would take that chance to be as toxic as possible, because I dont take well to beint accused. Honest does not mean compliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:09 PM
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But a go-bag IS an acusation on your partner's character. And it can be worth it, but it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:06 PM
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I do, in fact, feel offended when my partner asks for that. Because it is an acusation on my character. I'll let him do it, but afterwards we will not be exactly peachy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:04 PM
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I would take issue with a go-bag. Id rather not be with someone who doesnt trust my moral character
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:02 PM
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Kinda of yes. The difference is that driving ability isnt really a signal of moral character. Saying "Honey, you are a terrible driver" isnt nearly as heartbreaking as "Honey, you are a cheating whore and liar".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:01 PM
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It is precisely that. Every ask for a paternity test is calling your wife a whore. And sometimes it might be worth it, but when the test comes back and she is innocent, she'll never forget how you called her a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:00 PM
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Men also dont like to have their honor and dignity put into question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:57 AM
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You are allowed to want due diligent. But that doesnt make it less insulting to the people who hear it. Because there are, by comparison, many people who dont ask for the test. Thats the fundamental issue. Every acusation, be it cheating, or a crime, is an insult to a person's owner. Just because the person is proven innocent, that doesnt mean they wont resent their acuser. If my sister acused me, for example, of stealing her stuff, and I was proven innocent, that doesnt mean everything is fine …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:56 AM
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Women dislike being asked for paternity tests because it is a fundamental insult to their honor and integrity. It is fine if you think it is worth it to be sure. But dont act like its not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:52 AM
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You're in luck. The birth rate for younger women is lower than it has ever been in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:41 PM
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But that doesnt make it any more realistic when it comes to the actual dating chances and the options. Most people nowadays are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:13 AM
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People really underestimate how fat people are today. Wanting a partner who isn't fat in many places IS a high standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:06 AM
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And most of them are already overweight because such is the reality is hamburguer land.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:04 AM
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The reason women over 30 have kids isnt because they were promiscuos. Its because by that point they are likely to already have had a long-term relationship. You can realistically have promiscuity without kids. Plenty of women who take good care of their birth control never have kids despite having a lot of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:01 AM
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Yes, and the romanticization came AFTER the concerns about bastards and inheritance. It didn't happen all at once. The death of the concern of bastards is a big one that changed things, but the idea that a marriage could fail because people fell out of love even if there were no bastards or infidelity was already becoming a thing since the romantics. Someone who isn't a romantic will see a marriage where all the kids belong to the dad and there was never any cheating as essentially a successful …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:30 AM
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Pretty much yes. there are unironically people who would be willing to sell themselves as indentured servants to make money or pay debts. But the issue is that no one else would try to enforce that contract if they changed their minds. The issue is that your contract between your wife and yourself can only truly be unbreakable if the rest of society allows it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:27 PM
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I agree but I think there is a difference between that, and couples that kinda grow to genuenely dislike and resent one another. The truth is that, in a lot of cases, one of the parts simply isn´t willing to actually put the effort, and there is nothing the other one can, and simply forcing them to stay isn´t going to change it. Just take a look at the dead bedrooms subreddit: a lot of the people there have simply given up, and have no urge to leave, but also no urge to fix anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:43 PM
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The issue of preserving old marriage is that it would require the state to FORCE people to remain in romantic relationships they don't want to be in, which most people in the past would be okay with, but that most people today would find to be a massive state overreach. For example, I don't think we have an example in our society of the state enforcing perpetual contracts. Even the military is limited
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:40 PM
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I mean, I would. I am very petty and vengeful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:40 PM
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The issue is that fundamentally contradicts how most people in western societies view marriage. Modern marriage is the result of the 19th century romantic movement. To most people marriage follows the romantic ideal: its a symbol of the romantic love between two people. It has no meaning other than that. Most people find a marriage where romantic love isnt present in one of the parts to be worthless as a consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:40 PM
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Yeah but fault divorce isnt something people need to accept. Its forced on them, and it was back then as well. Thats the point of a fault divorce. Do you think people didnt try to fight fault divorced back then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:36 PM
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I mean, the issue here seems to with the concept of marriage as a whole, not divorce. Part of the point of marriage under the law is the idea that you are a single financial unit. If you want to keep finances separate, you simply should not marry. This is why people get pre-nups.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:32 PM
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What happens when you want to move on though? Let's say your wife cheated on you and you've separated. What happens when you want to marry someone else and you inevitably need to grant her the divorce? Wouldnt it be better to just keep no-fault divorce but add an infidelity clause where the cheating partner looses acess to shared goods?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:27 PM
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Not liberal, romantic. The modern ideals of romance and marriage come from 19th century britain. Its there that you saw the change from marriage as a tool for family creation to marriage as a symbol of ultimate romantic love. I often feel like more conservative people often understimate the influence that the romantic movement had in our modern conceptions of love and marrriage. We live in a romantic society. If you see this a lot whenever gay marriage is discussed: the conservative will make an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:11 PM
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Most people in western states would argue that marriage functions more like the 19th century ideal of the romantic movement - aka, its purely a symbol meant to represent how much people love one another. That is why no-fault divorce became common - because using that definition, there is no point to marriage if one of parta stops loving the other. Its also the reason why gay marriage became a thing - if marriage is a symbol of love, and not about kids or family, than there is no logical reason t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:05 PM
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The point isnt to keep the mother's living standards, but the kids. You have to pay for your kids based on your means, not their needs. Do you want to make sure the money isnt stolen by the mom? Thats a perfectly reasonable thing. But you dont get to pay less for your kids because you're not divorcing THEM. Your relationship and responsabilities to them independent of your consent. You have to pay for them because they are yours, not because they are your wife's kids. Also why are you bringing u…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:58 PM
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Than get a pre-nup
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:52 PM
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Just get a pre-nup them. Like the issue you're describing isnt no-fault divorce, it's the idea of "marital assets"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:51 PM
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That sounds like a problem with alimony, not no fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:47 PM
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Thats not what a termination clause means. It's not the requirements for the firing to take place, but the penalty that comes from ending it before its done. The correct analogy here would be for the party that iniates the divorce before a certain period to forgeit a given share of their possessions or the right to things like alimony
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:46 PM
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Best to not go for the broad approach. Only move foward if you sense some mutual interest. Learn the signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:52 PM
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Same for women here in Brazil. But I think the broad principle still applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:04 AM
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This is less proeminent in societies where there are more women than men (such as mine, because men die wayyyy more often due to very high murder rates) and is HYPER present when there are more men than women, like in India.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:54 AM
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It depends on who wants it more. Theres a saying "If the mountain doesnt go to mohammed, mohammed goes to the mountain", as in, the person with the greatest desire always ends up being the one doing the most work. I think the reason why its usually up to men in these situations is because women have typically endured singless more, due to having more numerous and more intimate friendships than men. Because men often rely on romantic relationships to be able to have emotional intimacy, since male…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:53 AM
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Because you're not actually competing with Chris Evans. You are competing with the IMAGE of Chris Evans, the dreams of Chris Evans. But actual Chris Evans and men like him only fuck supermodels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:09 AM
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I mean, if your relationship becomes dry, its a sign its not gonna last. Thats why its important both parts remain healthy and fit. People just hate when you say it because it goes against their romantic notions that sex is about "the soul" and not bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:06 AM
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I disagree. I do think there is an issue with people bottling their feelings and leaving problems for the next day
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:13 AM
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But how often does one need to shovel snow? Versus cooking which has to be done everyday. Many places dont even get snow. And many others live in apartments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:12 AM
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I mean, you cant really control your attractiveness, but if the place you find possible partners is a highly sexualized enviroment, than yes, you need to learn to tolerate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:50 AM
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Yeah, but that´s kinda like saying "The treatment for my cancer isnt working, so I´m gonna eat rino horn", if the first method didnt work, the second one is going to wield even less results. In that position I´d pay a professional photographer (with the necessary photoshop skills) to make sure your pictures MAXIME your chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:47 AM
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This is how I see it: body and personalities are not a same spectrum. They are both independent variables with can exist to some degree in different people. Some people can have high personality requirements and low body requirements or vice versa. But, and here´s the quicker: one cannot really make up for the other. If you´re are truly unnatractive to someone, there is no personality, even a perfect one that meets their requirements, that can save it. At most the relationship will be solely pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:39 AM
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I think you understimate the desperation people have for finding partners. Its been very clear from a lot of places and women I´ve listened to that plenty of women prefer to be alone than to be in subpar relationships. The reason for this I dont know, but I would guess is that since female friendships are typically more emotionally attached, men are the ones who end up feeling more alone when single.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:28 AM
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Because what people are mostly interested in IS the motive. They want you to have those motivations more than they want the things you´re actually giving. There are execptions, such as sugar babies, but people, as monkeys do, have a deep desire for appreaciation and love. If a guy gives me flowers, I dont enjoy because of the flowers. I dont even like flowers all that much. It´s a show of his affection, and that´s why it has any value at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:23 AM
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I´d argue apreciation is a core feature of most friendships, whereas sex is not. It can be, such as in the case of a friends with benefits situation, but if you´d not want to be friends with that person without the sex, that can be more easily classified as a fuck-buddies situation. A friendship CAN exist without sex, but it cannot without mutal appreciation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:20 AM
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You can, but to a lot of people, that would be fundamentally be of less value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:14 AM
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Here's the thing though: The idea of men being the sole providers historically is new. It is a product of the Industrial Revolution. Women have historically always shared the burden of work with men, because they HAD to (in poorer places lije rural India they never stopped). The only women who didnt work were noblewomen, and they didnt raise kids either, their maids did. At the same time, men also had more time to be present in their kids lives, instead of slaving away in offices. Also people ha…
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