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Look. I get it. Women’s orgasms are less important than mine. We agree about that part. My point is that men have all those same issues PLUS performance anxiety. I’ve heard that one can be nasty on a fellas ability to please himself using a woman. So really it’s kinda tougher for men if you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:01 PM

Outside of the first one, men have literally all of those things too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:46 AM
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Hard disagree. Men are always trying to find the most desirable partner for sex. pie-mart is actually pretty spot on. It's not as simple as men being pigs, but that is the gist of it. When the average guy is talking to a woman and feeling out any chemistry, sex is part of that equation and if he perceives she is interested in sex, he'll most likely keep going even if he's pretty sure it's not long term worthy. He'll take the sex for his troubles. Source: have done this many times. Don't feel gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:09 PM
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This phenomenon works both ways across the sexes and is most easily explained by a match between market values that is ultimately a mismatch on actual value. Happens all the time. Guy finds a gal who is about as beautiful as he could possibly ask for so he signs up. To make that value imbalance work, he's going to need to work twice as hard. If she wanted to pull her own weight she'd be with a higher value guy. On the otherside, a bright, conscientious, nurturing young woman finds a smart, chari…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:56 PM
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As a guy that is married with kids to an incredible woman, this comment did what it always does: make me a little uncomfortable because there's a lot of truth here. That being said, I'm going to do my best to provide perspective that you may or may not have considered on the basis of engaging in relevant interent dialogue. Here goes. My wife is a more effective person than I am. It's just that simple. Now, I'm not the man child that lays around and makes his wife treat him like his mother. I do …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:49 PM
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You went awfully fast from “women prefer a shy guy” to “shy guys can find women too.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:09 PM
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You’re dreaming. Women want an adventure. They want a warrior who will hold up to the tough shit life throws at us. What does the shy guy have to offer? He can’t even show her. He doesn’t sell himself. Mating is a marketplace. You have to have peacock feathers in one form or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:33 PM
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Serial killers regularly have women lined up for conjugal visits when they’re in prison. How many shy guys have women lined up for anything? None.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:54 AM
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Angry? Brother, that's the yawn emoji...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:45 PM
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🥱 Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:28 AM
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The analogy to snoring is such a bad analogy I think it actually may prove MY point a little bit does nothing for yours. When deciding who to hit on or sleep with or enter a relationship with, beauty and body are the first things we see. Snoring is like, the last thing we notice. If a woman can wear form fitting clothes that make her waste look small and her face movie star beautiful, she may not be the most beautiful woman at the bar but she can get attention like she is by selling the look. On…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:47 PM

I have literally never heard someone say that IRL. Which one of our anecdotal opinions carries more weight? I’m guessing yours. Because it’s the experience you had and not the experience of a person online you’ve never met.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:22 AM

I would assume the men agree and that they used to have sex enough but over time it drifted. You really think women don’t use sex to keep a man they want around until they have the leverage to keep him without the sex? I’ve seen it time and time again with buddies. It’s basically the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:06 PM
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That’s not what I said though. I was just pointing out some of the flaws in that persons reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:29 PM
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But that wouldn’t really apply to the conversation we’re having. You just wanted to throw in a humble brag. Go off king 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:48 PM
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The issue is that you think you have a handle on who is “bottom 10%” or “at or above their level.” Those are made up terms used case by case that you can bend and shape to fit your narrative. What’s likely really going on is that you are vastly over estimating your own place in the market. Everything is warped from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:02 AM
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Saying men aren’t attracted to hair and make up is bizarre. As if neither matter to men? You lost me. Hair and make up are women’s peacock feathers. That is absolutely a part of how they attract men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:59 AM
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Except for certain circumstances, champ…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:56 AM
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This is exactly it. If you don't have SOMEONE in your life of even remote romantic interest, you're not average anymore, you're sub 20th percentile at best and should be looking at that market in the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:04 PM
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Women upgrade their appearance with "hair and make up." A man that is unwilling to do the same doesn't get to be considered average in the same way you are calling women average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:02 PM
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Works the same way in reverse. These incel chuds think they're the average man are really pale, sleep deprived, office bods that care more about their samurai sword collection than having a hobby that plays in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:01 PM
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I think women can see your desperation a mile away. They always "have someone," to keep you at arms length.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:59 PM
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Maybe compared to the kind of sex you’re having…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:46 PM
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I’m a married guy in my 40’s with 4 kids and sex is the primary driver in my life. To say it isn’t special is to completely misunderstand what it is and what it can be. I notice the sexuality of women in my daily life regularly, as do the women I come across (I’m in sales so I work with quite a few rando’s in a day). Not in a way where everyone wants to fuck everyone, but people are just aware of it in one another. I spend in inordinate amount of my time flirting and loving my wife in such a way…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:09 AM
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This is as low T a post as I have seen on this sub 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:22 PM
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You’re source just made a pretty compelling point that that we are, in fact, wired to keep one partner and to mate with just that partner for our whole lives. Did you even read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:29 PM
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This actually proves my point. For a socially monotonous animals. Non-paternity rates are low. We’re not evolutionarily wired for polyamory and you just posted a paper that agrees with me. 🤙
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:00 PM
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Got a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:04 PM
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Of course you do sweaty… ☺️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:04 PM
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The person you are replying to is almost guaranteed to be a troll who is only here to get attention If they are polyamorous they’re living a lifestyle that is bound to go up in flames. Couples that have one outside relationship are destined for ruin. Almost no one threads the polyamory needle. Look up the numbers. We’re not wired for it. Jealousy and resentment are waiting around every corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:26 PM
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I think everyone should date below their own perceived market value to some extent as a rule of thumb. It widens their pool, keeps them sharper on dating in general (go on more dates so when you do find the person you want to be with, your game isn't rusty and you're not desperate to make it work. You're more seasoned). I also think mid market women are much better at this as a general rule. When incel's see women "settling" for a beta, they're not realizing that the other way to spin that is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:03 PM
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Sex addicts still exist despite low value men not having access to casual sex. The low value men just can’t get addicted to casual sex. High value people’s still can and do get addicted to sex. What a strange point you tried to make there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:32 PM

Off the top of my head the example I gave in the last comment about abundance mentality, destroying oneitis was challenging but ultimately incredibly useful, AWALT, the list goes on. I’m not sure there was a piece of advice that didn’t find its use. The difference of course is that I didn’t say AWALT in a way that disparaged women but instead as a symptom of the game. There are some fundamental ways that all women are gonna be like that and understanding that can help you to understand where the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:31 PM

Lots of people can’t. Specifically men. But even if what you said were true, you’re presupposing something being easy automatically makes it less fun. That is most certainly not the case with sex. Specifically sex with new partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:59 PM

Men and women are wired different biologically. Men are wired to want many partners. Women are wired to want to lock one down. Judging men for finding success doing what they're built to do evolutionarily is a tired trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:17 PM

I... think that proves it works really really well...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:15 PM

So none. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:14 PM

Bingo. Posts like this one always try to frame the red pill man as this hopeless loser that is trying to gamify dating rather than just being themself but I have witnessed zero examples in my life of men having healthy happy relationships with women by simply escalating every obstacle with kindness and servitude. There has to be a line. The discussion is where to draw it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:13 PM

I always thought of the Red Pill philosophically. Rather than dating many women, the idea is to cultivate an abundance mentality. It's less about actual abundance and more about not tightening up when you actually do get a date thinking you have to be perfect or you'll be single for the rest of your life. Stuff like that. Obviously there will always be guys that use dirty tactics to treat women poorly. We're never going to make that illegal. The red pill helped me be better at dating. I never to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:11 PM
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lol, wut? Guys I think this one is broken 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:37 PM

The personal attack is the accusation of projection. There is nothing in DietPepsi's comment that would indicate which half he falls into. Obviously, I understand why you think that from reading the comment, but it still counts as attack. There is no engagement in the point he is making by you. Honestly, I more or less agree with him. At the very least I think there is something to it, even if the number isn't half. I'm a married dude with kids but the times are unprecedented. Young people are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:29 PM
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Well today is the day. You're here. I'm here. And we're all wondering about this crazy question together. I'm gonna go with 4. If OP doesn't go on a first date quarterly, he's going to need to sit down with his regional dating manager and sketch out an action plan. Not to be punitive. To capitalize on all that potential
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:24 PM
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Look everybody, a blue pill chud in his natural habitat: annoying people online over a post he already stated he doesn't care about. It never gets old watching them flap and flail their soggy, sweaty tendrils.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:21 PM
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I’m not even talking soft. I’ve heard of that too and it’s a whole nother conversation, but I’m talking women who were with guys who were hard but just not as hard. Almost like I was the hardest guy they’d been with up to that point and they thought the last guy was hard. If that makes sense. I would almost put it like this: guys think of it like length > girth > hardness. Women I have been with have thought of it like hardness >>> girth > length. Where the latter two are more or less a novelty …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:44 AM
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Bro just stop. You’re coming across weird right now. Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:28 AM
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Not the person you’re replying to but I have been similarly refused anal on account of girth. The conversation is never an open admission like you’re thinking. It’s always kind of a silly “ehhh ya knowwww I’m not sayin, I’m just sayin,” fun kind of conversation. End of the day I’m not sure size is as important as guys think it is. Obviously a guy can be too small and that’s an issue, but as long as we’re talking average or close to average I don’t think it’s thought about all that much. I’ve got…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:34 PM

She loved it with the other guy and won’t do it with you. That’s what I said. I don’t know what you’re on about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:15 AM

You kinda just disproved your own OP. Because you got up in your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:19 AM

But she loved it with the other guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:13 AM

What about this scenario: she did anal with her ex but says no way will she do it with someone as big as you… 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:26 PM

I think the tough part of all of this is just how many people marry their partner early. So an average guy and an average gal take themselves off the market early on and we don’t see what would have played out had they opted not to. Then they both get chubby and let their finances meld together in a way that makes divorce far more of a pain then just sticking together cause they like each other enough anyway. If the women here are to be believed, both people would have gone on to have the exact …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:04 PM
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I got a divorce when I was 35. I had a good job but nothing crazy. Two kids. Regularly dated women in their mid 20’s. Probably 90% of the women I dated were between 23-28. Women my age wanted to get married to celebrate our third date. Now, the younger end of that, it takes a very specific type of woman. One that is mature beyond her years. An old soul. Once you get to 25+, I would say that a lot of women simply mature at a younger age than men. Obviously I’m generalizing here, but the women I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:35 PM
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I’m married to a pretty blonde gal. We have kids and jobs and bills. We own a home and shit breaks and we do our best to fix it. Never a dull moment. If she was just letting me pay bills I’d have figured it out a long time ago. Similarly, I do not get to fuck her any day of the week. You chuds that think women are some magical unicorn and not another person in the world just like you are shooting yourselves in the foot at the starting block.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:59 AM
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You sound pretty fun, ngl 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:14 PM
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I probably worded it weird. It’s the same conversation as we have a round urgency to eat/over eat. How can you possibly know how irresistible some Oreos sound to me right now, ya know? And I’m not even heavy. When my brain tells me to eat some Oreo’s there’s almost nothing that can stop me. I can’t imagine what that feeling must be like for someone who is a hundred pounds overweight. They’re giving so much of their health away for that urge. It must be over powering.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:31 PM
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That’s all I’ve been saying from the start. Almost everyone in this thread is presupposing something about the way the scale tips. I’m asking how we can tell at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:45 PM
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Well obviously all of that is true. Can you be sure it’s enough to cover the broad brush of “men have more sexual urgency than women?” Asexual men are pretty significant outliers. It could be that the factors outside of vitamin T are effecting their chemistry uniquely, not that vitamin T gets thrown out completely because asexual men exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:15 PM
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Testosterone levels is the obvious choice if you want to drill down on something medical. There are a couple ways to look at the behavior. Men in large groups suggests that their urges could be greater. Whereas others are suggesting that they're equal and because women behave differently, that means they are more in control or more disciplined. My point is its hard to know what urgency feels like in different people which makes it impossible to know how it factors into behavior across groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:52 PM
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My point is that individually you might be the horniest person of all. I’m talking more about how we would measure the differences in large groups like men vs women. We can say things like “both men and women have the same urges, women just see the urges as something that is more appropriate to control,” or “women are able to control themselves with regards to sex better because, on the whole, they simply don’t have the same urgency around sex.” Whichever one we choose is just narrative convenie…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:25 AM
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But how can any of us know if our urges are stronger than anyone else’s? What criteria are you using to determine that? What if your urges that felt the hardest to resist are half of the average guy? A quarter as strong? How can anyone truly know?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:34 PM
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To play devil’s advocate, women could potentially say “I have just as strong of urges as any man when I feel safe,” even though they don’t. There’s no way to measure the urges any one person feels. That same women who thinks she wants sexy as much as any man on earth will also probably blame her long term partner or other life factors when they’ve been together 6 years, are married, and she doesn’t want to have sex anymore. It’s a similar phenomenon to the skinny person who says “I eat as much a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:33 PM
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You have “lifetime original movie” written all over you, young lady. I’m thinking the guy will roll in from out of town with a sort of brooding past. He’ll be tall and handsome but sweet and charming. Rippling forearms and shoulders. He’ll be educated and show signs of taking care of those less fortunate and everyone will wonder what’s the catch? The catch will be just as you start to get close, maybe you happen to bump into each other after you have car trouble in what turns out to be a romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:34 PM
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They already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:12 PM
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The red pill knowledge isn’t morally coded. To blame the red pill because that guy is being manipulative is wrong. Blame the guy for being immoral. Same for you. You found yourself on the dating market and didn’t use any tricks or ask for any specific qualifications. That’s great! That’s you but that doesn’t change that some other woman doesn’t use the same tactics to manipulate. Again that’s a separate issue from the rules of engagement. This is a common fallacy of logic with this argument. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:14 PM

This post is honestly refreshing. I couldn’t have said it better myself! 🤙
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:34 PM
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Nah, you got this. Any single moment could be the one you turn around. I believe in you bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:36 AM
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The other side of the story is that I’m a 6’6” reasonably attractive dude. Throughout my life I have had more than a few women interested in me who were absolutely cool as hell, but weren’t for me. They could be as kind as humanly possible and it was just never going to happen for them. I have standards too. I wanted the kindest, most well adjusted, smart, funny, pretty blonde girl I could find. It works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:18 AM
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OP has a point about women though. Their vibrators and porn habits are at least cute and at most hot. I never really thought about it but I have never heard of a negative sentiment about women using porn. Obviously the narrative is that it’s a guy thing but women are certainly welcomed to use it as empowering to their sexuality. Society does play some interesting games with female sexuality if you really sit down and think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:00 PM
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Of course. I’m not talking about going a few days or a week without getting laid. I’m talking about masterbation as a replacement for sex. It isn’t one. They’re barely related as far as I’m concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:07 PM
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Me and my spouse are on the same page about sex. We stay fit and are into each other. We do the things we’ve always done to make the other one hot. It’s part of why we got married. We have really similar tastes in banging. Getting it in is like magic medicine to me. I can’t be the most healthy successful version of myself without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 11:54 AM
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Masterbation is a box checking of an activity. It does nothing to meet the needs of intimacy. When I was single, if I hit a dry spell, my body would adjust to the lack of intimacy. I might be lonely at times, but we are able to calibrate to our environment. If we’re in a pair bonded environment, that changes the situation. You can’t just rub one out because your spouse isn’t into you. Comparing the two situations is, again, suggestive of one who doesn’t really understand the difference. There’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:24 PM
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This one always gets me. Anyone who thinks masterbation is an adequate substitute for actual sexual intimacy with a partner should be disqualified from these conversations. You’re telling on yourself. You’re basically ace. Masterbation doesn’t do anything close to what sex does for me mentally. It’s like saying someone who misses getting dolled up and going on a date with their partner should just drink a protein shake and watch some TV. As if they’re the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:09 PM
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RIP your husband… 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:05 PM
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Look everyone, we got a bad ass! 👏 👏 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:01 PM

Fixing his hair is way too obvious. They’re not trying to get women to date the guy. They’re just want them to feel sympathetic. They just did a little bio tuck on the chin and gave him a tan lol Anyone who doesn’t think this is insane isn’t paying attention. Literally everything we see and hear is a form of dis/misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:29 PM
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What does your flair mean? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:00 PM
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What does your flair mean? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:58 PM
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As a guy, hardness seems to matter way more than anyone talks about. In my travels I have noticed the quality of sex improve drastically when I’m at my hardest. I always thought of it as a kind of signal. Like when I’m at my hardest in my most confident, which is the sexist I can be, but as time goes on, I think it might just be more pleasing for the woman I’m having sex with. Hardness is tricky. Sometimes I’ll be super turned on and into it but for whatever reason I’m not as rock hard. Other ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:31 PM
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It’s strange to me that this conversation isn’t happening around girth but instead about length. My experience is that length is only a problem past cervix smashing territory, which varies woman to woman, but is typically reliably a non issue under 6”. After that (and excluding the guys so small that it’s an issue the other way with not getting deep enough at all), it seems the entire conversation centers around thickness and really hardness. If a guy is as thin as a finger it could be less exci…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:25 PM
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Right. Except you value the right to take care of yourself over the right to take care of your child (in utero). So I personally wouldn’t put that reply referring to me. It literally refers to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:45 AM
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So would it be to fair, since you frame your stance that way, to say that someone who prioritizes parenthood or procreation above bodily autonomy would be completely fair and rational as an objection? I feel like too often we make our arguments on a basis of righteousness but I noticed you made yours on a hierarchy of values and thus it would be reasonable for someone to have a different hierarchy while still being within reason? Aka disagreement vs right and wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:16 AM
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It’s not at all. It gets you back into feeling abundance. It’s key not to get too cold. You’ll be flat footed when you do have a chance with some sexy Stacey.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:13 AM
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Women are after respect. Men are after desire. It would be so simple of both sexes Kept this in mind more than they do but the concept is a little like brushing your teeth with the wrong hand. What ends up happening in reality is that men tend to objectify women and women tend to friend zone or nice guy men when they get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:25 PM
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Have you never dated below your market value? My god. It’s unreal. You’ve never known desire like that. I recommend everybody try it. Be the home run someone else hit. Even if it’s just for a night. It will move you emotionally. You’ll think about it randomly years after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:19 PM

I’ve heard this is key. It socks to not have a dad. Dads are fun! You can’t not have father figures. That’s when things start to fall apart. My parents stayed married and I grew up in a stable middle class household. My dad was far from the only male role model in my life. It’s why it’s so important for kids to have male teachers here and there throughout elementary school. No dad can do it on his own and the absence of a dad doesn’t have to be a prison sentence. We just gotta have dads all over…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:49 PM
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Run away from the inconvenient narratives! That makes it way easier to treat the stories you’re left with as the absolute true version of reality. It’s a game as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:18 AM
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That’s what she said 😏 But we made it work…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:08 AM
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Nah. My wife doesn’t want to be some star fish who gets worked on by some sweaty dork in a fedora. She’s sex positive. She understands how she works and we’ve spent years together building a rapport sexually. We know how each other work because we know how we work ourselves and have passed that knowledge along in fun and intimate ways. How she gets off with me obviously looks different than how she gets off alone because she’s not alone. She’s with me and I can help! The idea that she would need…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:06 AM
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That is absolutely how it works. Every single “no” a guy gets trying to get his hair plugs paid for by a government program means a whole mess of full time employees who asked tasked with saying no to shit. And knock around on the computer 60% of the day waiting for someone to call.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:58 PM
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Right but I don’t want my tax dollars paying for the hoops and the red tape. That’s what ends up happening. It’ll be ten times more expensive to have all the different federal employees to bounce you around than it would be to just get the hair plugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:41 PM
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Clutch those pearls, boomer. I don’t accept some star fish laying there waiting for me to solve her like a tunic cube. If that’s your game, hey, the worst night of sex is better than the best day of work, but if you nut it’s gonna be by accident. Speak up. That’s all I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:24 PM
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Isn’t that just adding bureaucracy to the system though? Making people jump through hoops just jams things up and adds rep tape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:14 PM
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It’s not like that you dork 🤣 I’m saying both people have to be active participants who want their own outcome and have a desire to make it happen. It’s not my job to guess and test this woman until I solve her like a puzzle. Bitch put some work in. Get on top and get there. Or whatever it takes. I said this in another comment but I was with a women a few times in college who didn’t want to do her. She wanted me to do me because that was what she was into. She would jerk off herself later thinki…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:58 PM
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Correct. If a woman isn’t willing to communicate what works or take charge and make her dreams come true, I take that as her communicating that it’s all about me and my time. Not gonna lie, but I’ve been with those women and it can be pretty hot. I was with a woman in college a few times who said she wanted me to use her like a toy and then she would jerk off later thinking about it because it. That was just how she rolled. I wasn’t gonna be like “no. You have to cum. I’m a super skilled blue pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:49 PM

Straight from the DSM
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:54 PM
-16

The idea that it’s someone else’s responsibility to get you off is bizarre to me. You’re the one that gets off. You have to figure out how that works. If I have sex it’s not up to my partner to get me off. It’s my job. Her job is to know how to get herself off. Sure I’m willing to help but saying it is not my responsibility isn’t what would make me selfish, refusing to do any of the things she needs a partner to do would be selfishness. At the end of the day you aren’t some puzzle someone else n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:35 PM
3

My wife understands the game. We don’t put pressure on each other to perform. We have fun and get what we want out of it. She keeps getting naked with me so I must be doing ok 🤙
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:27 PM
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Not my job. If she wants to nut she had better come prepared with an understanding of her own body.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:07 PM
7

Right but if you feel that’s happening, don’t date that woman anymore. You guys make it sound like society needs to be intervened on so that a woman is required to want to fuck you how you like. Take a step back and look at your position here. It’s like, what do you want here?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:41 PM
10

Bro, you have issues you need to work through. No one thinks of shit like this. You have your brain tied up in a pretzel. If she’s sleeping with you it’s because she wants to sleep with you. Not because she wants to sleep with someone else. wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:08 PM
2

Everybody settles for who they spend the rest of their life. It’s the nature of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:15 PM
9

Men have a concept of inferiority complex. If she’s been with ten guys a dude who’s been with one woman will over think whether she wishes she was with those other guys. The way to overcome this is to sleep with 10 different women. You realize that sex is a little different with everyone but it’s always fun and you stop worrying about stupid shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:13 PM
2

You are, in fact, bad at courtship if that’s what you do. That’s definitely something a woman can get away with easier than a man. For obviously reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:09 PM
2

Ok? So we agree? Because I’m not mansplaining anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:22 PM
2

Truth is we all do this to some extent. You remember how it was with this or that boyfriend at the start. Everything was so exciting. You would do anything for each other. The rush of seeing each other was intoxicating. Then six months passed and it’s another sweatpants Friday night and you start to kinda loathe each other. That’s why people break up. It’s always best football forward at the start. It’s not a bad thing. It’s not mansplaining. It’s just why “kindness” will never be a characterist…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:31 PM
0

I get what you’re saying, but I come from such a place if you’re willing to hear it. I’m a mostly HVM (tall, decent looking, lean) who was basically a hose kink away from realizing my actual SMV. It’s not that TRP taught me to be any of the shit that Andrew Tate claims to teach his paying customers. It’s more like I needed to get out of my own way on a couple things. I believe this is the case with more men than you recognize. The reason this group isn’t more heard from is because they tend not …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:50 AM
1

I couldn’t disagree with this comment more. I debated not responding on the chance you might be trolling me but I ruled that out because of the obscurity of the subreddit we’re on. If you’re trolling, congrats. You’re a more miserable fuck than I thought possible. The reality is that almost everything we do as humans is market based. If you don’t realize that, shame on you. Dating is the single greatest representation of market analysis known to mankind. That’s where the stakes are highest. You’…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:35 AM
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Those cocky dudes were out of your league. If they wanted you they’d be kind enough to get you to want to want them back. Kindness isn’t a button. It’s not an on off switch, it’s a dial. Your turn the dial up as necessary. Not trying to be crude. Just speaking in terms of hard facts rather than formal pleasantries, my fedora tipping lady redditor 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:01 AM
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The issue is that kindness isn’t a binary thing. You want to be kind but you don’t want to be a push over. That’s gonna send a weird vibe. If you’re like “anything for you, whatever you say, here let me get that for you,” you’re probably gonna come across as a weirdo. So it’s not really a competition of who can be kind or not. It’s a competition of how a series of different attributes match up from a value standpoint point. People are actually way better at doing this market analysis than we giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:57 AM
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The issue for the guy who isn’t great looking or is awkward to talk to isn’t that he can make up for it with kindness and specialness, it’s that the good looking dudes treat her kind and special too. It’s all about competition and kindness is something literally anyone can do. We also tend to distribute the proper amount of kindness necessary when banging on a sexy Stacey is what is at stake. So no, you will likely never win the game at kindness while hoping everyone else forgets to be be kind. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:48 AM
1

What if your wife told you she could reliably have sex with a guy and not have any emotional connection. She just wants to get pounded out by the pool boy one morning essentially using him like a dildo with abs. They barely spoke any words to each other. You good with that? Not trying to play gotcha either. It’s an interesting way to think about it. It’s not the unfaithfulness that’s the issue. It’s the circumstances of betrayal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:52 PM
2

Women have always used this same logic and are sensitive to body count as well. That is not a male phenomenon at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:00 AM
0

As a straight man who is married, is it weird that I feel like I wouldn’t mind if my wife slept with other women? I won’t know for sure until I get there, and I don’t think my wife wants to sleep with other women, but the idea of her sleeping with a man is vile and heartbreaking to me but the thought of her sleeping with a women…? I don’t know, it doesn’t really do much for me the way the other half does. I’ve always been fascinated by this phenomenon in myself. I’ve told my wife if she’s in a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:59 AM
2

I think it’s a reddit problem. This website is such a gathering of a certain type of person (CS study, technical minded, gamers, etc) that certain things just cannot work around here. It’s always amazing to me how staunchly Reddit will advocate for women’s rights “which is great!) only to turn around and shit all over women when they get too uppity. If Reddit was a person they’d be a weird dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:18 PM
3

I’m guessing that one got banned too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:30 PM
2

What are red pill circles? The sub is banned right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:17 PM

I guess I don’t understand. What you want is to control what mates women want? How are we planning to do that and why would we think that has ever been the status quo at any time in human history?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:48 PM

Why shouldn’t it be that way and what is unnatural about it? Does it work differently than survival of the fittest in nature? What would be the natural order of things?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:18 PM

I would argue not even really them. I’m a tall decent looking guy who has always been able to make people laugh. There are two kinds of funny, there’s the craftsmanship that makes your buddies laugh. It’s local to your relationship with them. It’s clever and intelligent but it’s typically specific to those relationships. The other kind of funny is the signaling that women and men do to tell each other they like each other. It doesn’t require much past a pulse. How often do you see a tall chisele…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:17 PM

The one from your example is clearly what you said. The woman who doesn’t get pregnant or chlamydia stands to benefit from the church greatly. Almost like it’s not all one thing for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:08 PM

The idea is that some sexy Stacey will say she’s not religious and this and that until a Redditor falls in love with her and then she subs up and marries Chad Thunderglock and becomes his docile tradwife. I apologize for saying something that doesn’t completely align with your own individual worldview. I forgot the things I say have to match every single persons lived experience or be nullified completely. 🙄 You’re not the main character.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:07 PM
1

I considered it every day of my life until I was about 17 years old and realized I would never be good enough. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:03 PM
1

Not the person your replied to, but I have a pretty good example. Im 6’6” and found single single in my 30’s (divorce). I had never used OLD so I gave it a rip. First woman I happened to date was a 5’ tall 100 lbs gal in hear early 20’s (she was an old soul). We got along great. She was the opposite of my ex-wife in every way and I needed that. We had this incredible rapport. That being said, the height thing was more than a little annoying. She could stand on the coffee table in my living room …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:24 PM
5

I’m 6’6” and basically ate Reese’s peanut butter puffs and frozen pizza’s for years long stretches where my appetite was so strong my parents didn’t know what else to do with me. You’re gonna end up as tall as you end up. Nutrition has NOTHING to do with it except when we’re talking poor African nation levels of malnourishment. Almost nothing stops height from happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:16 PM
3

I’m not really sure what any one individual was supposed to do about it. Should we get the government involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:11 PM
1

And I’m saying it doesn’t have much to do with the red pill at all. Where there is a market for shitty toxic men there will always be 2 constants: producers and customers. The red pill pulls the curtain back on the nonsense we have built up around the dating world. The idea that men need to be gentlemen and hold doors and pay for dinner etc etc. Men MAY need to do those things but not in service to some broader code of chivalry, but rather in service to getting what they want out of the relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:40 AM
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And the ones who are political are far more amorphous than they’d have you believe. A given person’s politics is a stage they’re going through for all but the most rigorous and ideologically motivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:30 PM
3

And then get married and have three kids and become a Church/soccer mom when he’s ready. If she perceives he’s high enough value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:28 PM
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As with everything it varies. If you go to rural areas you’ll find conservative women in droves but if you go to the local university you’ll tend to see more progressive women. People can vary from situation to situation too. A gal can be fairly progressive but the minute she meets a guy and wants to settle down, she can swing pretty trad and want to start pumping out babies and living the youth sports soccer mom lifestyle. Seen it a million times. There’s no numbers problem. People are fluid in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:28 PM
1

Wait me? I’m in a cult now? That’s news to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:16 PM
1

That’s irrelevant. If those grifters were about RP they’d be on something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 12:42 PM
1

Some are, some are not. Red pill is just a set of ideas. Like the other person said, it’s basically stoicism with some info about how dating/sex is a marketplace. You blue pillers kinda sound like the ideological ones tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 12:37 PM
1

Nor am I trying to. In the odd chance that someone came along and read all of this exchange, maybe they agree with me, maybe they don’t. I’m happy with how I have represented myself. Can you really say the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:06 PM
1

I think my point is pretty well made. Good luck with thought control. It’s never going to happen and you’re wasting your mental energy on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:02 PM
1

So if sleep with women and never call them and generally treat them with disrespect, you think I should be jailed? Even if I continue to find consensual participants? What if I tell my buddies women are like cattle to me and they’re only as good as they are close to age 25? Jailed? Careful with your slippery slopes…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:58 PM
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The reason I made the point was to prove that your worldview blames ideas more than the actors involved. That’s a dangerous way to view the world. It means that you need ideas suppressed to have a just world. That the war of ideas can’t be won without the “bad guys” being jailed, so to speak. You’re not after a better world, you’re after control over how people think. You’ll never win the war that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:43 PM
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Not the red pills fault. That’s the people that believed in the fairy tale’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:29 PM
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This is the most revisionist history take imaginable. It’s actually pretty gross honestly. Either you actually believe this is true and you’re delusional, or you know you’re full of shit and attempting to deceive people. The red pill doesn’t “provide an outlet for misogyny,” because that’s not a thing ideas can do. That’s a choice people make in media consumption. I’m sure you also agree that Islam presents an outlet for misogyny… oh wait, it’s xenophobia when you apply that logic to ideas that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:28 PM
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The redpill isn’t mad about anything. Those people are grifters. If they didn’t identify with the red pill, they’d be identifying with something else. There’s nothing inherently wrong with the red pill, in fact, there are a lot of good positive messages within. That’s why it has become so popular. You can pick any set of ideas you want and blame the bad actors on the ideas but that’s lazy. It’s just time to grow up a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:56 PM
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The red pill isn’t mad about anything. You’re completely missing the point. It’s just a set of ideas, really undoing other ideas that are embedded into us. I didn’t bother with the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:27 PM
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This is such a victimhood narrative in its own right. You have to do gymnastics to tell yourself a story about how the red pill is evil. The red pill makes a ton of sense at the face of it. It basically just states that there’s no fairy tale. You’re owed nothing and that self improvement increases your value because sex is a marketplace. If people take that to some scummy other place it’s not because RP was a gateway drug, it’s because they were a scummy person on a path to do scummy things no m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:37 PM
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That’s an entirely different discussion. My original comment was pushing back against the notion that monogamous pair bonding was some kind of recent invention of the church and not an evolutionary characteristic of humans. It has nothing to do with disapproval. It’s merely a feature of our evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:48 PM
0

Works great! Until the cuck dad has to raise his neighbors kids or the other mother fucker’s wife gets jealous and slashes the tires on her neighbors fruit gathering’ cart. It’s not hard to see how complicated these relational components can get fast. Which is why evolution typically chooses the simplest straight forward line towards procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:33 PM
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We did! It’s called community! 🤙 As far as husband and wife, we evolved in some fairly specific ways that made a man/woman pairing fairly ideal. It’s not so much that it’s “meant to be” as it is “that’s how it worked best which produced more healthy babies which helped us take over the world.” Evolution is just dumb luck slot machine pulls surviving until a jackpot is hit. If we needed a village to raise a child (two men and two women for example), that would have made things more complicated. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:11 PM
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Nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:48 PM
0

Pair bonding goes way farther back than religion in the west. Absurd take.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:48 PM
1

The reasoning simply doesn’t work on this one. At all. This is logically invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:47 PM
1

This is spot on. I used the apps correctly, like the comment you reposted said, and I didn’t match with every women but the amount that I did match with who essentially said “thank you! These guys are all imbeciles,” was alarmingly high. This comment you posted is spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:52 PM
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John needs to know his market better. He is wasting swipes on sexy Stacy’s who would never consider him rather than saying “hey, she seems cool and might actually be interested in me!” It’s an issue of standards. Most men way overvalue themselves in the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:47 PM
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