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Either ditch him or date other guys on the side who can meet your physical needs. You never want to be in that position with a guy.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 01:42 PM
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Start with Oral and foreplay and don't touch his dick. Then once he gives you an orgasm immediately descalate, turn away, and tell him you're tired. Some will still manage to orgasm anyway but most wont.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 01:41 PM
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Nope. I genuinely don’t care. The purpose of a strategy sub is to discuss strategy not to seem palatable and nonthreatening to lvm lurkers and pickmes. We should never compromise on that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 02:44 AM
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Dark triad women is a tiny private sub that most interested women will never even see. This is supposed to be a place for strategy discussions. Nothing taints the sub nearly as much as those who moralize and condemn effective strategies for being “manipulative”.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 02:28 AM
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I proposed a megathread for rants elsewhere in this thread. Idk if the mods will wind up trying that or not but it's something I'm personally highly in favor of.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 02:14 AM
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I explained why it's a rational strategy for me in my op. I get genuinely good sex on demand and am much more clear headed and able to withhold sex as necessary from the guys I'm actually interested in because my physical needs are being met elsewhere. I'm not saying FWB is a good strategy for everyone but it works for me and it works for some other women as well.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 02:13 AM
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You were the one who first brought up FWB and I felt the need to respond because all the knee jerk anti FWB reactions are a huge problem here imo and are getting in the way of being being able to discuss FWB strategically. I made a post about this. Read it if you like. I don't have the energy to get into this argument yet again but I voiced my opinions on this subject there.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 01:44 AM
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I'm not interested in having this argument right now but myself and several other women here have had success using FWB as part of our dating strategy. Simply dismissing our perspectives because they don't align with yours isn't useful to strategy discussions.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 01:12 AM
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how they think it’s fine to have friends with benefits. People posting about how FWB can work for women is strategy. Having a knee jerk reaction to FWB discussions is harmful and unproductive imo. All the rants about how shitty specific LVM are are very unproductive though. I get that women here sometimes need to vent but those posts take up way too much space for what's essentially useless content.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 12:57 AM
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The FWB shaming is annoying as all hell. Like I get where they're coming from because of how many FWB relationships are trash but acting like FWB is always unequivocally bad for women regardless of context is obnoxious and just plain wrong. I wouldn't recommend FWB for everybody but sometimes different things work for different people and there are plenty of women who can make it work for us.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 12:26 AM
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That's really great to hear! I think some more specific guidelines for strategy posts and comments on them could really do a lot of good.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 12:12 AM
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Yeah I'll try and do a better job of reporting things from here on out. I hate seeing pickme trash shitting up the sub and I want to do my part to help out.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 12:10 AM
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My last post before this one. It was apparently removed at one point and then put back up but locked.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/02/20 12:01 AM
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Will do! I'm happy to do what I can to help.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 11:48 PM
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Maybe we could add a new rule like "No Strategy Shaming" or something. Yes! We absolutely need this. There's way too much strategy shaming and it's starting to become a serious issue imo.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 11:42 PM
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I mean I think you all generally do a pretty great job at dealing with pickmes but there are just so damn many of them that a lot of them still wind up slipping through and getting upvoted by male lurkers. I do think some way of cutting down on all the rants and other strategy free posts might be useful though just to stop them from drowning out actual strategy discussions the way they often are now.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 11:40 PM
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I don't have an issue with those kind of posts in general but I think that because they're very emotionally cathartic they tend to get a ton of upvotes and then drown out the strategy content. IDK what the best solution is.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 11:32 PM
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It's not that I'm against things like memes and rants entirely but more that they tend to drown out the serious strategy posts. A spinoff sub for strategy only might be a good idea though.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 11:30 PM
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There's nothing wrong with having rants but it's frustrating that there are so many of them and they take up so much space. Maybe consolidating the rants/venting in to a daily or weekly megathread would be a good idea? Idk.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 11:28 PM
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I might write a formal guide at some point but basically the short version is that it comes down to finding a guy you aren't emotionally attracted to and never hanging out with him in a nonsexual capacity after you're done vetting him. In my experience it's not that hard to be detached once you set the right boundaries.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 06:39 PM
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I could see how a thread like that could be helpful to many women but I personally disagree with the consensus on on FWBs and prefer them to sex toys. I'm not necessarily advising anyone to get an FWB but I don't think it should be ruled out as an option for women who are trying to get our physical needs met.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 06:30 PM
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Save your conscience and your empathy for other women. Men will never reciprocate and don't deserve it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 06:22 PM
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You might be interested in reading some of my strategy posts. I'm a very similar personality type and my strategies are heavily based on how to initiate and take the lead with men without making overt approaches. It's never a good idea to ask a man out but there are many ways to make the first move in subtle ways that don't give up your power.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 06:20 PM
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I've addressed this sort of criticism before.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 06:08 PM
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I'm not trying to shame you, I'm telling you the truth. Your religion was invented by men to control women. It's written right into the bible numerous times and woven into the history, culture, and social fabric of the church. If your faith is something that's important to you then feel free to maintain it but know that doing so puts you at a disadvantage.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 05:03 PM
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If you're still a Christian then you need to shed your pickmeisha programming. Your religion is a tool invented by men to control you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 04:51 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Men are only as good the women in their lives train them to be. The best HVM are the ones whose mothers have been training them from birth.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 04:30 PM
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Dating apps are magnets for LVM. IRL is the only way to really be able to weed them out.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 03:30 PM
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Does he have HVM potential? If so then consider dating him for practice and allowing him to provide value to your life but without being monogamous or putting out. There can often be value in doing this if you're not very experienced.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 03:27 PM
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Get better friends
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 03:24 PM
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Women are far more capable of higher reasoning than men on average but this has been hidden from the world by centuries of patriarchal oppression. If women were included in intelligence measurements from the start then Einstein and Hawking would be moderately above average at best.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/02/20 03:23 PM
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For me it depends on whether I’m getting enough out of it to justify the time I’m investing. I have some guys in my roster that I like to use as “backups” whenever I need to practice my skills on a guy I’m not too invested in. I’m not attracted to these guys or really interested in them physically so it’s easier to practice my strategies without worrying too much. I’d actually recommend that most women have at least one “practice HVM” like this at all times because the benefits far outweigh the …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/02/20 09:51 AM
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If you have to ask, the answer is usually yes. Any guy who wants to find time for you will make time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 11:32 PM
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Most men totally think like this though, they just usually aren't that obvious about it. Look at how heavily stigmatized the mere discussion of feminine hygiene is. Most men can't stand the thought of any vagina they don't currently have their dick in.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 11:29 PM
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Yep. To an LVM the mere act of caring about a woman's pleasure is demeaning. They're desperate to avoid having to treat us as anything other than living breathing fleshlights.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 11:22 PM
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Troll or not, this is very much how a typical LVM thinks about sex. Anything designed to give us pleasure is gross or a weird or a burden. It's giving me really bad flashbacks to my pickmeisha days.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 11:20 PM
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Tbf men can be as well but only if they're properly trained. Male "affection" and "loyalty" isn't really genuine but merely the result of the pleasure/pain centers of their brain causing them to crave a specific woman.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 07:36 PM
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You're not missing out on much. Most men don't have anything worth saying anyway,
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 04:32 PM
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There isn't one until you see him naked. None of the "scientific" ways of telling a man's dick size have any real weight behind them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 04:25 PM
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I hate to sound like a broken record linking this post all the time but I talk quite a bit about my methods there. There's no 100 percent foolproof way to weed out LVMs but if you follow those steps you'll be able to weed out quite a lot of them and attract guys with HVM potential.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 08:02 AM
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Local social events mainly, like concerts, festivals and that kind of stuff. I also go to bars quite a bit, which aren't the greatest but are still better than speed dating type venues where you're basically guaranteed to be surrounded entirely by LVMs.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 07:08 AM
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Yep. Men are crudely tribalistic and will defend each other come hell or high water regardless of how many of us it hurts. Look at what happens every time a famous celebrity gets accused of sexual assault. The only safe way to deal with them is with the exact same ruthlessness.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 06:39 AM
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So many women even on this sub have yet to throw off their pickmeisha programming. Men deserve no kindness or sympathy from us.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 06:37 AM
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Empathy and compassion for men is inconsistent with healthy morality because they're incapable of appreciating or returning it. Save your moral instincts for helping other women who need it. Also the idea that there are any men, HVM or otherwise, who are anything other than purely selfish is a myth. The only thing that seperates the "good" men from the fuckboys is that they're better trained.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/02/20 06:35 AM
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You don't need to justify anything. Dating strategy is inherently amoral and doesn't require justification. Do you think men ever ask themselves how to justify screwing us over time and time again? When I'm out with a man, he pays for me. Period. End of story. I need no other reason than the fact that it's better for me and makes more strategic sense.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/20 11:24 PM
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There's nothing LVM resent more than a woman who's smart enough to recognize their shit.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/20 11:14 PM
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That's a myth peddled by men in order to make you desperate. I'm 30 and I do just fine. Your first mistake was using OLD. Don't. It's LVM heaven. IRL is the only reliable way to screen out LVM and avoid wasting your time on them. Speed dating and other "meat market" events are barely any better because they naturally tend to attract low effort LVM who are just looking for an easy lay. If you want to find men with LVM potential it's far better to try and meet them organically.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/20 11:07 PM
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The purpose of first dates is to get a man to invest in you in order to weed out fuckboys and make him feel the need to prove himself to you. Drink dates make it far too easy for him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/20 03:46 PM
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Ditch him. Dick size isn't something I personally care about that much but if it's a deal breaker for you then there's no point in sticking around and wasting more of your time on him when you're unsatisfied. Never feel shame for being "shallow". That's just some BS that men made up to stop us from having standards.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/20 03:42 PM
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I discuss validation and how to use it as a tool as well as some specific ways of providing it in this thread. Let me know if you need any more specifics and I'll try and provide them!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/20 11:59 AM
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There's no such thing as a good man. There are some men with the potential for goodness but that potential will still only come out if it's forced to by a strong woman who respects herself, practices good dating strategy, and has firm boundaries. If you're waiting to find a good man then you'll keep being taken advantage of and disappointed by fuckboys who know how to play the part. The key is to take a more active role in your dating life and know how to train men into treating you like a queen…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/02/20 11:56 AM
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And interestingly enough most dating advice for men tends to be messed up and manipulative ways to attract women and most (good) dating advice for women tends to be about valuing ourselves and weeding out men who want to waste our time.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/02/20 08:41 AM
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I work a pretty demanding and high powered job and still find time to meet people IRL so it's definitely not impossible. I get that it's different if you work nights or have odd hours but for the majority of women I think that IRL is both preferable and possible. OLD can sometimes work if you have no other options but it should be avoided if at all possible.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/02/20 08:36 AM
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None of that post you linked applies to a decent FWB. A good FWB is a guy who's put in effort and passed all the behavioral tests that would normally apply to a guy you're dating but isn't a guy you'd be interested in long term for anything other than sex. An FWB might be held to lower standards in terms of things like earnings and personal compatibility but not in terms of how he's expected to treat you, and an FWB would probably he held to even higher standards in terms of attractiveness and b…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy13/02/20 08:31 AM
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I don't. OLD is trash. Meeting people IRL is far better for filtering out the LVMs.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/02/20 05:49 PM
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Fair enough. What you were saying seemed like a typical pickmeisha rationalization but it might have just been a language issue.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/20 04:55 PM
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It's only ever women who are "shallow" and "superficial" too. Men's preferences are so ingrained in society that they can be as picky and judgy as they want and it's just seen as normal.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/20 04:51 PM
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Nope but it does mean you have to be making enough money to provide value to a woman, which is more than a lot of guys can say.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/20 04:49 PM
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I never said anything about being incredibly wealthy. What I said was that being an HVM is, at least in part, about money. "Superficial" qualities aren't the only thing that matter, but they are a big part of it. I'm sick of women getting shamed for not wanting to be with a 5'4" with a mediocre salary just because he's like totally trying his best or whatever.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/20 04:44 PM
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That's some pickme bs right there. Being HVM *is*, in part, about money as well as looks, status, height, sexual prowess, and all sorts of other "superficial" stuff. The kind of shit you're saying is what convinces men that they can just be mediocre fatasses and still get women just by not being total screwups and pretending to treat us with actual respect
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/20 02:30 PM
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There are three things men have to offer; Money, good sex, and affection. Most men are shitty lovers and emotionally paper thin so money is all they have left.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/20 02:26 PM
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Tbf I'm pretty sure by literate he means someone who's well read, but this is till cringe as fuck.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/20 02:23 PM
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Imo it's a 50/50 split between a normal get to know you question and a way to figure out which women are "independent" to avoid feeling obligated to provide any actual value. Jokes on them though, I make a good deal more money than most of the guys I date and I still expect them to buy me dinner.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/20 02:20 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/egjxjy/the_lure_method_how_to_make_men_crave_you/ (Part 1) https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/eyh2xo/the_lure_method_part_2_managing_your_scrotation/ (Part 2) Use this method properly and you're unlikely to wind up with a man who gives you fuckboy bs.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/20 06:34 AM
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Because they're still able to provide value even if they aren't that deep emotionally. They might not have genuine empathy and emotional depth but I've trained them to provide value to me because they know that's how to win my attention and approval. ​ Men are like dogs. They can be good companions when they're properly trained and boundaries are clearly established, but expecting a truly deep emotional connection from them is a mistake.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/20 04:24 PM
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I mean I'm not vain enough to think he's like madly in love with me or anything. He has a couple times expressed interest in spending more time together outside of just hooking up but the last thing I want is to invest more time on his bum ass when he's already giving me the one thing he's actually good for. It's very easy to learn to disregard the feelings of men once you realize how shallow and paper thin they are. Feeling genuine sincere love requires a level of emotional depth that men aren'…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/20 03:40 PM
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So? If I'm getting what I want out of it then who the hell cares? FDS is about what works.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/20 01:53 PM
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I never said not to vet them. I'm not saying I just swiped right on the first guy I found on Tinder and told him I was DTF. If you're getting what you want out of a guy and being smart about it then that's a win in my book.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/20 01:51 PM
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I rarely run into that situation anymore because I have methods that prescreen men for HVM potential. If I did I'd probably politely but firmly tell him to fuck off and then ghost him.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/20 12:11 PM
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Make sure you have at least a couple potential HVM in the pipeline at any given time. Even if you're not 100 percent sure about them, it's worth keeping a few around in the short term as long as they're willing to provide value. That will protect you from catching feelings or getting too content.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/20 11:42 AM
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That's definitely a risk but it can be mitigated by picking a guy you're only attracted to physically and making sure you already have other guys you're seeing who you have an emotional attraction to. I wouldn't advise FWB for a woman with no other guys they're dating, they're only useful as a supplement to your dating strategy, not as the center of it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/20 11:38 AM
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I'm not gonna catch feelings for him because I have other guys I'm seeing who I like a lot better on an emotional level. If he winds up catching feelings for me then that's his problem. If anything that would make him more useful to me because he's more eager to please.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/02/20 11:33 AM
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Imo men are born with the capacity for empathy and higher reasoning but lose it as they age. As men go through Puberty their testosterone overpowers their empathy and higher reasoning ability and turns them into dopamine addicted animalistic junkies. That's why many younger boys are perfectly capable of showing genuine empathy but turn into borderline sociopaths as they reach maturity. From a biological standpoint female is the default and men are women who were mutated in the womb so effectivel…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 07:35 PM
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Don't worry, insecure LVMs will still find every excuse to pick apart her body and act like she's a shriveled old hag.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 04:40 PM
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Never marry a gamer.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 04:36 PM
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The strategic move is for her to stop obsessing over marriage. The idea that marriage is a good goal for women is a myth that's been peddled by patriarchal culture to keep us in chains. Marriage doesn't enhance relationships or fix problems in them. Marriage wont keep men loyal or make them more invested. All marriage does is make men take you for granted because they think they don't have to put work in anymore. It sounds like either the relationship isn't working and she needs to ditch him or …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 11:39 AM
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Thanks! I'm always happy to help!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 08:34 AM
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I don't care about having the imaginary moral high ground, I care about what works. Language like this is useful because it helps us emotionally detach ourselves and avoid catching feelings and getting taken advantage of. Men are naturally emotionally detached to an almost sociopathic degree so it's important that we adopt detached perspectives as well when dealing with them to avoid falling prey to their manipulations.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 08:33 AM
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Men are incapable of genuine sincere love. They can display loving behaviors but only if they've been properly trained by manipulating the pleasure/pain centers of their brain. The fact that we're capable of actual love and they aren't is something the take advantage of constantly to manipulate us into doing what they want. ​ ​ Falling in love with a guy or expected him to fall in love with you is a mistake. Even if your goal is a committed monogamous relationship, you should never delude yourse…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 08:30 AM
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Your first mistake was letting him get away with a coffee date. Coffee dates are for LVMs looking for a low effort way to get into a girl's pants.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 07:23 AM
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The FDS consensus isn't no sex before marriage, it's no sex before commitment. That said I don't necessarily agree with that consensus. This is actually probably gonna be the subject of my next major post but basically I believe that as long as a guy has demonstrated value in your relationship it's okay to have sex with him even if there's no commitment. You need to make sure that he's providing good sex and that he still provides value even after having sex with you but imo it's possible and ev…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 12:46 AM
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First you need to see if he's willing and able to provide value in your relationship. Then you see if he's lazy and selfish in bed. That way the fuckboys get weeded out in advance.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/02/20 12:38 AM
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Hey kinda random but do you have any idea why my posts keep getting auto-removed? This is like the fifth time it's happened in a row and it had to be approved manually.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/01/20 01:43 AM
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I’m not a pick me. Lmao sure thing. ​ This is not true and absolutely harmful. I think of my brother who has gone through pain, specifically the same trauma we grew up with. ​ #Notallmen ​ When he cries I want his girlfriend to be there for him. They have a healthy relationship and quite frankly it wouldn’t be healthy if she didn’t love on him when he is hurting. He does the same for her. ​ Will somebody please think of the poor neglected menz?!! Nobody EVER considers their feelings. ​ My ex des…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/20 11:44 PM
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Ofc it's not our job. My point is that taking the high road with men doesn't encourage better behavior or contribute to the greater good. If you want to take the high road for the sake of your own emotional well being or because you can't be bothered wasting energy dealing with mens' bs then power to you but assuming that it will contribute to the greater good or building a better society is incredibly naive.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/20 11:37 AM
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Giving men a taste of their own medicine *does* encourage them to be better though. Men don't care about the greater good and can't really see beyond their immediate incentives and how they're trained by the women around them. Using simple carrot and stick incentives is the only way to teach men to behave better.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/20 11:25 AM
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You should have asked him to get an AirBnB, waited until he paid for it, and *then* blocked him. I know it's petty but making fuckboys suffer for wasting your time is cathartic as hell.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy23/01/20 08:45 AM
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No I'm not. My entire point is that former ugly ducklings are less likely to be fuckboys because they were given fewer chances to be. Most of them still are obviously but the overall correlation is negative not positive.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/20 11:20 PM
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You’re thinking like a pickmeisha right now. Those men that women here are finding aren’t innately good. They’re men who get trained by FDS into acting good. If there were swarms of good men out there who inherently want to treat women right then there’d be no need to train them using FDS.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/20 06:24 AM
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Any man will act like a fuckboy when given the chance. Men and who were born into their good looks aren’t any better.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/20 06:18 AM
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I'd say what defines a HVM the most is a genuine and honest commitment to strong, respectable values and a basic routine of putting the woman's interests first if he wants to date ​ There aren't really any men who fit that description because that would require a higher level of empathy, compassion, emotional understanding, and higher level thinking then men are capable of. Men respond to how they're trained. They really don't go any deeper than that.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/20 03:18 AM
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The vast majority of ugly ducklings turned HVM were never incels to begin with and pretty much none of the incels with those fantasies actually put in the work required or even have the ability to become HVM. What you're talking about are the deranged ramblings of *extremely* low value men who fantasize about how they'll totally make all those evil feeeeeeeeemales pay one day.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/20 03:14 AM
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Men can learn how to act in ways that superficially mimic empathy but genuinely empathetic men are few and far between if they do exist at all. The idea that men's actions are the fault of culture or society is bluepill libfem ideology that people really need to stop repeating.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/20 03:09 AM
-11

It's not about blame, it's about reality. There's no such thing as an HVM that isn't led to be that way. Men aren't capable of the level of compassion, empathy, and independent long term thinking necessary to treat women right without outside incentives. Men who act like HVMs do so because they were trained by strong women using FDS and similar methods. The only "natural" HVMs are the ones who were trained that way by their mothers from a young age and those are few and far between.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/20 02:20 AM
25

It's not human nature, it's male nature. The only difference between an average man and an outright sociopath is that the average man occasionally feels the slightest twinge of remorse after he manipulates and screws over a woman.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/20 01:05 AM
-42

Any guy who makes good money, dresses well, and looks good naked, is HVM material. The rest is up to how well he's led by the women in his life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/20 12:54 AM
-7

I strongly disagree with this. Former ugly duckling guys are typically less likely to be fuckboys because they haven't had the practice or the positive reinforcement that incentivises fuckboy behavior and their lack of a highly developed ego makes them easy prey for some of the more aggressive FDS strategies. It's guys who are currently ugly ducklings that need to be avoided at all costs, both because they're almost always bitter and resentful and because you can do better then their fugly entit…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/01/20 12:50 AM
12

Yes. Why did you even need to ask?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/19 05:14 AM
30

I reached the dreaded 30 recently and literally nothing changed. I still get approached constantly by thirsty LVM and am just as capable of getting investment from HVM as long as I use the right strategy. Ofc I didn't believe in the wall even before I started reading FDS stuff because the whole concept is completely ridiculous to anyone who ever leaves the house even once.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/19 02:21 AM
2

Lol Vagwarmer, I like it!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/12/19 02:18 AM
8

LVM should just be ignored. HVM should be kept on rotation because the competition keeps them honest.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 10:11 PM
12

Imo a female "plate" is a guy who does add value to a woman's life but who she doesn't want to commit to because he hasn't quite proven himself worthy yet or because she'd rather not be monogamous. I have two "plates" right now he meet that criterion and I'm right now looking to add one or two more.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 10:11 PM
11

Plate is the Red Pill term for a girl they're seeing that they're not willing to commit to and expect to prove herself. Plating is the process of making a girl a plate and remain totally emotionally detached. It's something that I think FDS should borrow and rename in some form because I personally use similar methods in dealing with men.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 09:22 PM
25

It's totally normal for you to feel upset and disappointed when a relationship doesn't work out. Unlike men we form real connections and can't just effortlessly act like detached psychopaths with the people in our lives.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 09:18 PM
-4

Lol really? That's like super awkward phrasing. Like I'd rather not have to use a full sentence just to refer to a single guy. Srsly we really need better more accessible terminology lol.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 09:13 PM
-2

Isn't roster a plural term though? Like how would you refer to an individual guy?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 09:09 PM
15

Go to local social events and venues that aren't "meat markets". Avoid online like the plague. There's no specific place to go for finding HVMs but you can usually spot them in the wild.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 08:33 PM
8

Fuck em. Ditch all the LVM in your life whether you're related to them or not.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 08:26 PM
0

You can't make a man high value but you can rewire him to make him want to invest in you. Those are two different things.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 08:25 PM
-6

Most men are only “friends” with women they’re at least somewhat interested in. Men lack the necessary empathy and emotional depth for true friendships and they only are willing to put in the time to fake it if they have something to gain.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 08:18 AM
4

The oppression isn't due to ideology, it's because men aren't reined in enough. There's a reason that matriarchal societies have historically been much less oppressive and more egalitarian.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 07:18 AM
-4

If she wants to ditch the scarcity mindset then she absolutely should approach him. Knowing how to work an HVM takes practice and he would probably be able to provide at least some value to her even if she isn't that interested in him romantically.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 07:10 AM
7

That's a good question actually. I generally assume that HVM means he's at least moderately good looking but OP might still have her pickmeisha goggles on.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 07:06 AM
6

Read rule 2. Mutual benefit isn't the goal here. If he's a genuine HVM then he could have a lot to offer her even if he isn't who she wants long term.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 07:03 AM
6

So you openly admit to being a libfem pickmeisha who only came here to defend men and preach about "oppressive ideologies"? You clearly aren't worth engaging with.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 06:47 AM
3

Read my recent post on the LURE method. That will get you the initial investment from him. From there all you have to do is maintain it. I'm planning on writing more about next steps in future posts.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 06:40 AM
-3

Hook him in and turn him into your compliant ATM/sextoy. Even if you aren't interested in him long term he could still provide value to you if you get him invested.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 06:38 AM
0

It doesn't even take much time though. That's the one good thing about how emotionally shallow men are. You can easily train and rewire a man in like a month if you know the right moves.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 06:33 AM
11

No woman's ever been raped, abused, or taken advantage of by her houseplant.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 06:30 AM
10

The only truly loyal man is one who's led and trained by a strong woman to be that way. Men lack the emotional capacity for loyalty unless you manipulate the pleasure/pain centers of their brain to make them addicted to pleasing you.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 06:29 AM
15

Lmao fuck off with that libfem pickme BS. It's not society's fault that men are fault that men are shallow and shitty to women. Men are constantly encouraged to express their thoughts and feelings at all times whenever possible. Men aren't repressed by society by their parents or their teachers or whatever other libfem nonsense that always gets used to justify men's shitty behavior. What we see from men are their true feelings and those feelings are shallow and paper thin.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 06:21 AM
14

All of my friends were LVM because I was #notlikeothergirls. None of those friendships were worth a damn and I've since discarded all of them. How to build strong female friendships is still something I haven't cracked.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 05:02 AM
4

Date multiple HVMs and learn how much better it's possible to be treated. I was in the same place a few months ago and that's what I did. Once you get HVMs to start bending over backwards to please you you'll forget about low value fuckboys really quick.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 03:33 AM
47

Only men are truly capable of having sex without feelings because men's feelings aren't that deep to begin with. They're just a small step above children and animals.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 03:30 AM
72

Trump is living proof that men make awful leaders.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 01:41 AM
9

CIDs can be hard. I learned how to do them well from being a stripper in my early 20s when good CIDs meant good tips. They absolute do require some skill to pull off and it's something that you will probably need to practice if you want to learn how to do them well. A good CID is done alongside a VAD and straddles the line between friendly and sexual. You want to be quick but not subtle. The goal is to convey clear and unambiguous interest and totally overwhelm a guy emotionally. For example wit…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/12/19 12:07 AM
5

Glad to hear it! Let me know how it goes!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 11:56 PM
30

They're wrong though. Women don't just want "a genuine guy who values himself". That's the sort LVM pandering bullshit that convinces men that they can just be lazy fatasses and still expect us to fawn over them. They seem like more of a blue pill libfem than someone who actually understands FDS.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 08:46 PM
42

Never listen to what a man tells you or he'll turn you into someone that he doesn't want anymore.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 08:12 PM
11

Those men are HVM. They just choose not to provide value to women because they can keep getting away with it. If you consider only men who'd never lie, cheat, or be emotionally irresponsible to be HVM then there are no HVM because any man would engage in those behaviors under the right circumstances. There's no such thing as a man with good character because good character requires more emotional depth than men have. Men are primarily animalistic and impulse driven and respond to immediate grati…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 08:07 PM
5

Not right now, but in the future who knows ;)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 05:52 PM
29

Why are you still with him? He clearly walks over you and provides no value to your life.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 05:15 PM
11

A man worth dating and marrying gotta be heads and shoulders above those: does he stand by his principles even in hardship? Does he take care of you when you need him? Does he keep his word, is he loyal? ​ This is all determined by how invested he is, not whether he's HVM. HVM only means that he's able to provide value if he wants to, which strongly correlates to fitness, career status, grooming, and other obvious indicators.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 05:14 PM
10

That's way too complicated for me to get into in a single comment. I'll probably do another writeup on that topic sometime soon since that's the only way I'd be able to do it justice.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 04:57 PM
22

Ask him to surprise you. This will both put the onus back on him and keep up the pressure to impress you. If he continues to push back then ditch him. If he puts in a good amount of effort and investment into planning something good then validate him for putting thought into it even if it's not your ideal venue. In the meantime start dropping subtle hints while you're around him of the kind of things you're interested and the kind of places you might want to go and see how he reacts. Ideally he …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 06:22 AM
19

A guy who was genuinely invested in you wouldn't be treating you like this. He should desperately want to spend time with you, not treat you like an afterthought. Furthermore they fact that he's constantly crashing at your place rent free shows that he's a fundamentally low value man who isn't worth your time and energy. He should be the one spending money on you, not the other way around.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 06:10 AM
25

Props on you for crossposting here and I hope people go easy on you and give you good advice. As I was saying in the other thread he's shown clear signs of being a user and you need to ditch him for someone who'll treat you how you deserve. Read the links in the sidebar and read up on pick me behavior and pickmeishas because that's how you're acting right now. You need to learn better strategies for dating that will attract better guys who will treat you better.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 06:02 AM
20

He would if he was interested in what she could do for him. Maybe he wants sex and thinks she's better than nothing. Maybe he uses her as a rebound after the end of a relationship. Maybe he keeps her around because having a pickmeisha who gives him everything he wants with no effort or commitment required is easy and convenient. Men respond to incentives and any man will act like a fuckboy if he's around women who reward that behavior. ​ ​ HVM aren't any more pure or honest or virtuous than LVM.…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 05:42 AM
12

HVM are men who can bring value to women. Whether or not they choose to do so depends on whether they're genuinely interested or not. That's where FDS comes in. If you only consider men who'd never act like fuckboys to be HVM then there are no HVM becuse men will act like fuckboys as long as they're allowed to.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 05:21 AM
12

Ghost him. Now. That behavior is unacceptable.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 04:54 AM
2

Nope. What you're describing is the difference between a man who's actually interested you and one who isn't. This has nothing to do with whether the man's an HVM or not. HVM are perfectly capable of fuckboy behavior as well.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 04:29 AM
35

I strongly disagree with this. A lot of HVM traits can easily be discerned in a few minutes. Is he fit? Is he well groomed and well dressed? Does he have a good job? Is he "smooth" or a natural flirt (huge red flag as this usually means he's a fuckboy)? Does he have interesting high value hobbies? These questions alone will weed out the vast majority of men and the rest can be easily weeded out with time. This method has worked on several guys who I later confirmed as HVM after getting to know t…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 04:17 AM
25

The idea is to initiate with a VAD. There are several ways of doing this but two of the ones I use the most are to compliment him on something that he's wearing or something noticeable about him or to ask him for advice and and give a VAD based on what he says (compliment him for being smart, laugh if he tries to say something funny, etc.). The goal is to give him a quick but powerful ego boost before initiating RI-FO. Men are easily addicted to ego stroking as long as you use it sparingly and s…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 03:16 AM
85

This may be a controversial opinion here but I'd actually argue that FDS is ultimately beneficial for men even though that's not our primary objective. In the long term most men seem far happier in female led relationships then they ever are with Pickmeisha. Men like challenge, they get bored of Pickmeisha very quickly because she provides none. Men need to be led and trained, like dogs, or else they spiral out of control in ways that aren't even beneficial to them in the long run. ​ ​ Imo this …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/12/19 02:35 AM
5

Disagree. I think there are a lot of advantages to meeting a guy on "home turf" once the relationship is at a certain point and he's passed the right tests. I'm also not looking for exclusivity right now and don't necessarily think that's the best sexual strategy for women. It's possible my perspective would be different if I were but my sexual strategies right now are more aimed towards pursuing FWB/casual dating in a way that actually works for me. I'm more concerned with whether a guy has pro…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/12/19 09:55 AM
18

Don't call him out. That just looks desperate and makes him think he got under your skin. If he has a consistent history of valuing you and this was his first slip up, you should give him a chance to shape up. Withhold everything from him including sex, affection, and validation, until he makes a sincere effort to win you back. As soon as he makes a gesture that you find sufficient to make amends for his behavior then start treating him like you did before. ​ ​ He may or may not see the connecti…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/12/19 01:14 AM
14

Both of the guys I'm seeing right now texted me early this morning, as did a couple others who are currently trying to win my attention. I waited until just now to respond to leave them hanging for a bit and let them feel a little uncertainty and one of them sent me another text saying he was looking forward to taking me out again soon while the other just offered to make me Christmas dinner. I'd thought I was gonna be spending tonight alone with Netflix and Chinese takeout but it looks like I'm…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy26/12/19 12:56 AM
53

If a guy is sitting on his computer on Christmas playing games when he could be spending time with you then he's not worth your time. Stop listening to your inner pickmeisha.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 10:08 PM
88

Dating a gamer means being a side chick at all times.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 10:03 PM
18

Ngl that's why I personally think women shouldn't seek out long term committed relationships, competition keeps a man loyal and willing to prove himself. One thing I always love is finding subtle ways to remind guys I'm seeing that they're not the only one and watching them immediately start fawning over me and trying desperately to win my approval. ​ ​ Tbh I've actually started hating men a lot less since I discovered FDS. Just like dogs they can be genuinely sweet and adorable as long as they'…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 09:59 PM
22

You actually have to train men the exact same way as you train dogs Omg I love this so much. I literally think of my interactions with men in this exact way. I give them a treat (validation, sex, positive reinforcement) when they are well behaved enough to earn it and I punish them whenever they start to test my boundaries. Just like dogs they will constantly push and prod to see what they can get away with and they need to be firmly corrected every time or else patterns of bad behavior will dev…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 09:24 PM
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A man's nervousness can be your most powerful weapon imo. Much of my personal dating strategy relies on finding guys who are already shy and prone to nervousness and keeping them as nervous as possible for as long as possible. Once guys are allowed to get comfortable that's when fuckboy behavior emerges.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 08:40 PM
19

So I actually sort of disagree with all of this. OLD *does* suck because it empowers LVMs to more easily bullshit about their true value and encourages fuckboy behavior. It's a lot easier to properly vet guys and ward off the fuckboys in person. Yes you do have to deal with obnoxious thin skinned men but it's far better than having to waste time sifting through endless LVM dumbasses and playing guessing games online. ​ ​ FWB can work and I think might even be the best option for women when done …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 08:34 PM
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The whole "Just be forward and honest" thing is the biggest pile of BS ever. It's a very easy way to get exploited and taken advantage of by fuckboys who aren't willing to put in any time and effort. That said I don't think passivity usually works well for most women either since that typically leads to having to filter out a horde of LVMs with nothing to offer. Imo there actually are ways of for a woman to make first move that actually keep the power in her hands but they typically involve doin…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 08:24 PM
11

Lmao all your comments in this thread are pure pickmeisha cringe.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 07:29 PM
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It's only ever women who are "shallow" too. It's not like men are ever expected to look past a woman's appearance because "it's about the heart". ​ Your first mistake was giving an ugly guy a chance imo. You deserve your looksmatch. There's nothing wrong with having standards.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 03:27 PM
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Blessing in disguise imo. The last thing we need is women getting our brains fucked by porn too. Leave that shit to the LVMs and let them jerk off in their parents basements like the wastes of space they are.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 03:21 PM
14

Different strokes for different folks I guess. Personally as long as a guy's cute and good with his tongue I could care less about what's between his legs. It's not like any guy's gonna give good PIV anyway. You do you though! There's nothing wrong with having standards!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 03:15 PM
22

Eh, I honestly don't care that much about dick size personally. Like who actually gives that much of a fuck about a guy's dick? I mean I sometimes lol a bit when a guy who's super cocky and into himself gets naked and he has a sad little twig between his legs but aside from that I barely even notice anything about how a guy's dick looks. They're all mostly interchangeable to me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 03:08 PM
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They have absolutely no self awareness about it either. Less than a minute after posting this thread I literally had a salty MGTOW send me a chat request so we could have an "honest conversation" about how actually men are already body shamed as much as women and society hates ugly men. I loled and blocked.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 02:56 PM
90

Even "fluffy" guys think they deserve a 10/10 supermodel. I'm glad you ditched his entitled ass.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 02:45 PM
22

I'm planning on doing a longer writeup on this sometime soon when I find the time. It's probably a bit too complicated of a process for me to do justice to it in a comment and I really don't want to risk giving anyone bad advice because I didn't have time to explain things fully.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 09:28 AM
13

I almost always go out alone since I'm a workaholic with a very small (and pretty much entirely male) social circle. It's not usually a problem as long as you know what you're doing, take necessary safety precautions and avoid meat market type venues. If you have a more specific question on that then I'll try to answer but idk what kind of tips you're looking for here. ​ Smiling and eye contact are the basics but there's a lot more that I typically do to make an attractive first impression. I'm …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 09:24 AM
1

Haha thanks! Maybe I will ;)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 09:14 AM
4

Click "FDS handbook" at the top of the front page. It's basically a "greatest hits" from this sub.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 09:13 AM
18

I *never* lay out rules explicitly. Imo that's a mistake I've seen some people make here. If you overtly proclaim your rules to guys then you look more desperate than anything and will probably only attract LVMs. Setting expectations through behavior is always the better approach both with men and dealing with people in general.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 09:11 AM
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So I actually disagree with making guys wait a long time for sex for exactly this reason. I don't want to waste my time on a guy only to find out he's absolutely worthless in the bedroom. I'm planning on doing a longer writeup on this at some point but basically there are some steps I usually take that help weed out fuckboys relatively quickly. ​ I've had sex with 4 different guys since I've started this and each time was within a month or two of meeting them. The trick is that I made them demon…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 09:06 AM
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Thanks! I'm def planning to post more on this sometime soon. And PMAB = Pick Me Ass Bitch. Basically another word for pickmeisha.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 01:52 AM
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Oh yeah, by all means, I didn't mean to discourage you. I was just letting you know that you shouldn't get discouraged if you don't see the sort of immediate results that I did because you might not be starting from the same place. I absolutely believe that anyone can learn this strategy if they put in enough time and effort and I think you'd definitely see better results than just being passive and waiting for LVMs to approach you. I just wanted to manage expectations is all.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 12:51 AM
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I typically meet men at local events or other social venues. I live in a big city where finding stuff to do is relatively easy and I'd far rather meet men in more "normal" settings than in meat market type settings that specifically cater to LVMs with nothing to offer. I've also tried bars a few times and had decent success, though I had to weed out a lot more fuckboys as well. I never use OLD because it always attracts LVM bottom feeders and low effort fuckboys and my strategy relies heavily on…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 12:30 AM
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Fair warning, this might be a bit harder for you at first than it was for me. Part of why this came so naturally for me is that I'd already spent literally years of my life relying on my ability to flirt with men in an emotionally detached way in order to pay the bills. Part of why I think I got results so quickly is because I'd already spend years building up these skills in a different context so I just had to learn to apply them properly. The ability to both know all the right buttons to push…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/12/19 12:09 AM
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They're not stupid. Making women feel like crap about ourselves is the objective, not an unintended consequence. They want us to stay insecure and dependent on them and nonstop body shaming is one way they do it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 11:26 PM
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Thanks! Reading this sub really helped my a lot these past few months so I'm happy to try and pay it forward :)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 11:25 PM
11

Just letting you know I wrote out a reply to /u/silver1472 below where I tried my best to explain my process. Let me know if that helps! I'm happy to answer any questions you might have! I'm not really good at doing writeups on this stuff yet but I'll try my best to help :)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 11:24 PM
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Sure thing! I learned a lot from a few months lurking this sub and I'm more then happy to pay it forward ;) What do you want to know?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 11:14 PM
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Yeah this might be a very controversial take here but in my experience it's very hard to get attention from high value men using a solely aloof and passive approach. Throughout my life I've always either been friendly and approachable and attracted manipulative assholes or been more passive and aloof and attracted fuckboys and low effort scuzzbags. I typically have a lot more success with a sort of bait and switch approach where I start out being friendly and indicating interest and then gradual…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 11:12 PM
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So, possibly controversial to say here but I *do* approach them a lot of the time. One of the more positive side effects of my history as a sex worker is that I've learned how to validate and stroke men's ego's in quick and subtle ways that get them to crave more. I'll often approach men start conversation, and signal interest and friendliness in order to first hook them in before withdrawing and letting them take the lead. ​ ​ It's the initial show of interest and validation that makes them cra…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 11:05 PM
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Just 24 hours? You sound like a selfish harpy. My man has me 24/7 365 (when he's not with one of his side pieces of course) and we're not even married!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 10:07 PM
12

Ugh. I cringed so hard at this. I'm glad I was never this bad.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 09:42 PM
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Yeah personally I think OP was being too direct about it. I personally still like this advice I read on here awhile ago. If you're high value, present yourself well, and act like you expect him to cover the check then it's not that hard to get guys to pay as long as you weed out the fuckboys in advance. If all else fails you can always rely on the whole "tell him you'll pay next time and then ghost" trick which usually works in a pinch.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 09:29 PM
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"I respect a woman's freedom to sleep with my low value ass without expecting anything of me."
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 09:22 PM
38

JFC the OP in that convo is like peak PMAB.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 06:48 PM
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Srsly I fucking *wish* we lived in a world where most men were doing what they needed to to be actually attractive. They always have sky high standards for us and absolutely abysmal ones for themselves.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 06:30 PM
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If it's any consolation that's like 90 percent likely to be bullshit like most trp "field reports".
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy24/12/19 06:27 PM
1

As much as anyone ever knows the sexual history of their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 12:20 AM
2

I'm only interested in ultra mega chads with 6 pack abs and seven figure salaries. He just wasn't cutting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 12:02 AM
1

I'm mixed race actually, but why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 11:07 PM
0

I've had guys who were interested in commitment and ltr too tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 11:01 PM
1

are you white? Lolwut?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 11:01 PM
1

6, the longest was about two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 09:23 PM
1

Lmao are you trolling rn?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 09:22 PM
1

After. Believe it or not he didn't really care that much since he wasn't an insecure weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 09:22 PM
1

About two years. He was really pushing to get married and settle down and I wasn't ready yet so I ended it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:59 PM
2

Marriage and moving in together. I didn't really want to make that kind of commitment then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:50 PM
1

Because?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:48 PM
1

I just said several not "so many".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:47 PM
2

Because I wasn't feeling like settling down at the time. Not everyone always wants the same things at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:45 PM
2

Lol forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:43 PM
0

Been on several dates these past few weeks actually, and I'm getting just as much interest and attention as ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:43 PM
1

I moved past that ages ago, dude. Why are you still so obsessed with that old post? None of this has anything to do with the topic of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:41 PM
1

Some were, some weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:38 PM
2

I'm childfree by choice but I've been in serious ltrs before and even been proposed to. I even had a bf who I had to break it off with cause he wanted to settle down and I wasn't ready yet. A lot of guys don't care nearly as much as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:34 PM
1

Being selective about your body doesn't mean you're ashamed of it, nor does being less selective. You're the one who's assuming that I should feel shame for some reason ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:30 PM
3

I've been in several before tho and my history was never an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:25 PM
2

I'd rather die alone than to share my income with used up vagina. ​ Lmao keep telling yourself that ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:24 PM
1

I seen plenty of guys who are willing to commit to me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:22 PM
1

It's reasonable to not want to be in a relationship with anyone, but making that decision because of "sluttiness" is misogynistic and unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:20 PM
1

I know people who would work 3 jobs before they get into this line of work, what do you call those kind of people? People who have different preferences and priorities than me. Letting disgusting pigs objectify you for more money doesn't sound like something that a person who respects them self would do. Not everyone's a stuck up prude who's ashamed of their body ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:20 PM
2

It's not reasonable to want to control how your partner can dress, whether she's "loud", whether she can talk about sexual stuff, or whether she's allowed to go to clubs or bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 08:01 PM
1

Do you based on your interpretation my post history you're assuming that I believe something and then saying I'm a hypocrite cause I believe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:59 PM
0

You're saying it's reasonable to be insecure about "sluts", I'm saying why I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:58 PM
1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_work ​ Types of sex work include, but are not limited to, street prostitution, indoor prostitution (escort services, brothel work, massage parlor-related prostitution, bar or casino prostitution), phone sex operation, exotic dancing, lap dancing, webcam modeling, pornographic film performing, and nude peepshow performing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:56 PM
-1

Cause I think that guys who judge women for being "slutty" are absurd and controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:54 PM
0

I made a lot more money than I ever would mopping floors and all I had to do was dance in a club. My dignity and self respect are just fine thanks ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:53 PM
1

I love how everyone keeps assuming that sex worker means prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:48 PM
1

My n-count doesn't come from sex work tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:47 PM
0

My n-count is actually p average though, it's just extreme by red pill standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:46 PM
1

I'm talking about long term commitment though. Believe it or not it hasn't been that hard to find guys willing to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:35 PM
1

I would never date a guy who tells me how I can dress, what I can talk about, and where I can go out. Sounds insecure af and probably a real buzzkill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:34 PM
1

Are you saying that everyone should be in open relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:30 PM
2

Cause I'm looking for the kind of intimate connection that comes with monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:26 PM
0

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:23 PM
1

I wasn't a prostitute, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:23 PM
2

I'm not threatened by nonmonogamy, it's just not the kind of relationship I'm looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:22 PM
0

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:20 PM
1

Is it really that odd that a man wouldn't want a promiscuous women for a LTR? ​ It kind of is if you think about it. Why does a woman's past really matter that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:19 PM
0

It doesn't seem to scare off that many in my experience ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:17 PM
0

Idk, I'm not ashamed about my past but I still don't think every detail of he history is any guys business. Like I'm not gonna tell him every time I've slept with another dude and in what positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:51 PM
3

So instead of answering my question you psychoanalyze my post history? None of that has anything to do with saying all guys will cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:48 PM
5

Lmao I was wondering why my quotes weren't displaying correctly. Brb unfucking all my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:41 PM
0

Because it's judgemental and racist? You pretty much answered your own quesion dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:32 PM
1

I was a stripper in college. My n-count was entirely my own choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:30 PM
0

Lmao what the fuck? AOC's one of them! She pretty much built her entire career off appeasing insecure white dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:29 PM
1

Lolwut?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:28 PM
1

Cause some guys "standards" are judgemental and misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:27 PM
2

Tell that to all the red pillers who say that a woman is irreperably ruined if she's slept with more than like 5 guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:25 PM
1

Meaning, how can you have a definition of a high value men when you think all of them are going to cheat if given the chance? ​ When have I said that? ​ How old were you when he asked? ​ I just didn't feel ready back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:24 PM
3

My favorite part of this sub is watching you guys try and move the goalposts every time one of the common red pill tropes is brought up ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:22 PM
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Why? If you were secure in your relationship then you would allow him to bang other chicks. ​ Cause I'm looking for a monogamous relationship? ​ ​ Do you also forbid him to look at porn? ​ Wouldn't care. What he watches is his business.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:20 PM
0

> "you only care about discussing socialism because you're a virgin." ​ This but unironically. So many middle class white guys are turning to socialism cause they're upset that they failed to make much of themselves in a society build by and for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:18 PM
2

Did you read what I said. I know if I like a guy long before I know if he cares or not and I also know whether or not other women like him. Funnily enough, the guys who are seen as attractive never seem to be the ones who care about n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:15 PM
2

We usually fall under that umbrella, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:13 PM
2

Hmm. yeah so given your post history...I'm going to say we use words VERY differently. But good for you. ​ Meaning? ​ What is your definition of a "high value guy"? ​ A guy who a decent number of women find attractive. ​ And what's your longest "serious relationship"? ​ Just shy of two years. I ended it cause he was ready to settle down and I wasn't just then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:11 PM
1

Plenty of guys are interested in me for ltr though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:09 PM
2

And yet still more than high enough to make red pillers reaaaaaaaly salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:08 PM
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Nope! I usually know if I'm attracted to a guy loooooong before I know his on opinion n-counts. Not once has a genuinely attractive guy actually cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:05 PM
0

I was a stripper, not a prostitute. Still seems to make a lot of red pill types reaaaaaaly mad though. My n-count was entirely my own choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:03 PM
5

I'm not looking for marriage rn but I've been in several serious relationships and been proposed to before. Finding guys wiling to commit hasn't been hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:01 PM
4

I'd guess somewhere around the mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 05:59 PM
5

Been very easy for me so far. None of the guys I've actually been interested in have ever really cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 05:58 PM
1

No. I'm looking for monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 05:57 PM
2

I've considered and responded to several counterarguments but I haven't changed my view cause I wasn't convinced by any of them. I only responded in bad faith to people who were arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:30 PM
1

I know right? Why can't I just be submissive and demure and know my place like a proper female?!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:26 PM
3

Lol same here. I used to be really offended but now I just find them funny and sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:11 PM
1

I was a post-wall woman Lmao I'm sure this is 100 percent legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:10 PM
15

Nope. Nobody's signing up for single motherhood to get all those sweet welfare bux. That's just a right wing myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:54 PM
2

I'm focusing on the things that trp keeps bringing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:23 PM
2

No the main point of the wall that I see red pillers bring up constantly is that the balance in attractiveness between men and women supposedly changes dramatically to the point where all older women become lonely, bitter, and desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:22 PM
1

I am open to it, but nothing you said is relevant to how trp defines the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:15 PM
3

That's not even close to what most red pillers mean when the talk about the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:13 PM
2

"Being less attractive means your dating pool is full of less attractive people. More news at 11."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:11 PM
1

I'm hoping I can at least find a nice hardworking beta to spermjack so I can rake in those sweet delicious child support bux but no luck so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:50 PM
1

I'm just bitter that I wont be able to land a top tier alpha with six pack abs and a seven figure salary. It's just not fair :(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:47 PM
1

My n-count is over 9000. umadbro?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:42 PM
1

I know right? It's weird how obsessive a lot of guys are about having to disclose every controversial aspect of your life instantly or you a liar who's hiding something. The funny thing is that none of the guys I've gotten that far with have ever really cared that much. I guess I just don't date insecure wierdos ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:40 PM
1

Lolk
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:31 PM
1

It comes up as often as other details about my past come up. I don't try to hide it but I don't think I have some kind of obligation to "disclose" for the sake of a few misogynistic wierdos. I actually prefer it when guys find out though. If a guy is a judgemental misogynistic wierdo I'd rather find out sooner than later so I can kick him to the curb.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:23 PM
1

She was going to the wrong parties then. I didn't stop til my mid 20s and there was never any shortage of people my age around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:51 AM
2

I mean it's not like I'm gonna start every first date with "hey I used to be a stripper in college, hope that's cool with you".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:42 AM
1

I agree, but I think most people get tired of nonstop partying long before then. Like it's fun at first but it really gets old after a few years even if you're still young enough that you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:40 AM
1

The issue here is that the wall you're talking about here is way different from the wall that I usually see red pillers arguing for. I agree that what you describe as "the wall" exists cause it's pretty much an uncontroversial fact that most people get less conventionally attractive as they age, but that's not what red pillers mean when they talk about how their late 20s ex has totally "hit the wall" and turned into a bitter spinster who can't find a man. Also I disagree that it hit's women hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:39 AM
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It means I used to strip for extra money to put myself through college. And yes it usually comes up in LTRs at some point. I'm not ashamed of my past and I don't try to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:22 AM
1

Not according to this https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2zckqu/updated_glossary_of_terms_and_acronyms/ "official" red pill glossary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:18 AM
1

I've responded to several high effort comments including your own. Chill out, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:13 AM
1

I'm not a prostitute, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:07 AM
1

kk
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:45 AM
1

Again I agree with most of what you're saying here but that's not really how TRP defines the wall. Older men aren't living in some kind of George Clooney abundance fantasy and older women are usually able to do just fine for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:44 AM
1

I mean there is an actual biological wall for bearing children but that isn't at all the same thing as the wall TRP talks about. I'm not denying that women stop being fertile after a certain age. That's just biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:37 AM
-1

You're whole "community" is a meme, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:36 AM
1

So you just blindly believe that Red Pill stereotypes are true without evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:34 AM
-1

If you've devoted your entire account and post history to the fact that you can't get laid, you might want to reevaluate your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:24 AM
0

I've never had trouble finding commitment or LTRs though, despite how desperately you clearly want to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:23 AM
-1

ACTIVE IN THESE COMMUNITIES r/Braincels r/askanincel r/PurplePillDebate r/short r/IncelsWithoutHate Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:16 AM
0

Lmao care to explain why I'm "the female version of an incel"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:13 AM
1

I'm at least as attractive as I was i college, am more confident in myself, and get as much attention and interest as I always have. If this is what the wall feels like then it feels pretty damn good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:08 AM
1

Tbh I've never met a single older woman who actually meets TRPs bitter spinster stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:05 AM
1

Yep I'm so bitter that I rejected little Billy back in 10th grade and now I can't get a man anymore. I think about it every day :(
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:49 AM
1

Better then relying on screenshots and anecdotes from known hate subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:45 AM
1

Getting interest is not the same as getting commitment. Good thing I get plenty of both ;) You are wrong and bitter too https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/692/020/094.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:44 AM
-1

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/692/020/094.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:43 AM
2

Except the red pill idea of the wall is that women all get bitter, lonely and desperate as they age while men become George Clooney and are perpetually surrounded by eager hot 20 year olds. Neither of those two things are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:33 AM
2

Nothing about the wall is true aside from the uncontroversial fact that a lot of people get less conventionally attractive as they age. Everything else is pure fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:20 AM
1

Linking to a couple weird misogynistic subs isn't evidence. some women do get less attractive as they age but that doesn't even remotely prove "the wall" is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:19 AM
1

successfully transition to middle age Meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:16 AM
3

Unlike bitter internet misogynists who are well known for being wise and self aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:12 AM
2

Posts to /r/braincels complains about being seen as a misogynistic incel loser Lolk
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:09 AM
1

Wouldn't surprise me at all. Most red pillers are insecure as all hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:02 AM
2

I dunno but there are quite a lot of those "dumbasses" in my experience ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 09:01 AM
1

Yeah I could see mid-late 30s if he's putting in assloads of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:59 AM
1

I bet you're so mad that a lot of women have great fulfilling sex lives and none of them are choosing you ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:58 AM
3

r/the_wall Jfc that sub is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:57 AM
2

A few years ago I broke up with my bf cause he wanted to rush into marriage and commitment before I was ready. I bet that makes you so mad ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:56 AM
1

People still enjoy fun but their idea of fun changes. I really don't think most people would be running around partying and hooking up well into their 40s even if they had a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:46 AM
2

You're totally right! Clearly I'm just a delusional post wall hag and all the many guys who regularly express interest in me are just lying. Thanks red pill! Edit: Aaaaaaaand you're an incel. Why am I not surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:44 AM
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There are huge issues with using self reporting for stuff like this. There are a ton of social and cultural biases that are going to severely mess with the results. Even if I took this study entirely at it's word though, that still doesn't prove "the wall". Most men wont be able to get younger women so they'd still have to settle for women their own age either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:42 AM
1

You're technically right but I think you're wrong about the reasons. There's a lot of burnout among sex workers that has nothing to do with "aging out". I did it to help put myself through college and while I don't regret it in the slightest it wasn't something I would have wanted to do long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:36 AM
1

I'm at least as attractive as I was in college and still get just as much interest and attention as ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:34 AM
2

Most women are never able to land 25 year old trust fund bros and a lot of us wouldn't even want to. Like I really don't think I'm gonna be mourning the loss of my ability to attract rich white douchebags when I'm 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:33 AM
1

I don't think they have to, I just think people's priorities change over time. A lot of people get tired of partying after awhile and start to want something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:31 AM
3

Gold diggers I get, but so many of these guys seem to assume that most 20 something women are actually attracted to 50 year olds. Totally blows my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:28 AM
1

Or maybe people just want different things at different stages of their lives and there's nothing evil or nefarious about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:26 AM
1

I never said how many men and I was a stripper, not a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:23 AM
1

It's a bunch of factors at once. A lot of awkward guys get their shit together and can finally play the game on some level by their mid to late 20's without embarrassing themselves. A lot of hard-partying girls who had it easy can have like a decade of drugs and alcohol catch up to them and will visibly gain weight. A lot of other women will have kids or other factors that drag their SMV down. Some women are late bloomers who grow into their looks. Some men let themselves go as they get older. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:22 AM
2

Is there a drop in conventional attractiveness after that age? Sure probably. Does it mean that most single 40 something women are lonely bitter and desperate like trp tries to claim? Not by a longshot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:16 AM
1

They think it's 30 but I'd say it's 40 or later. That's where aging really hits you and if you want to be young and hot you have to work REALLY hard for it. I agree that a lot of people get less conventionally attractive in their 40s but I don't think there's ever this immutable wall where all single women become lonely bitter and desperate. I know several 40 something women who still get plenty of attention from men their own age. Being mixed race helps because white people age like fucking mil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:11 AM
3

Yeah, like a few years up, not 10-20. Red pillers always seem to miss this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:01 AM
2

I'm not exaggerating. I've actually seen a lot of red pillers claim that women immediately hit the wall after college. It's really gross imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 08:00 AM
4

That's my favorite part of their whole narrative. They always assume that 20-something women are all clamoring for whithered Grandpa dick. Like, have you even met a young woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:57 AM
7

The also seem to think they'll all turn into George Clooney and be nonstop bombarded with female attention when they grow older which always makes me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:54 AM
-1

What was the methodology of this study? This seems like a very difficult thing to prove and I'm not just gonna take your word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:51 AM
-3

According the most red pillers the wall is like 16-22.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:50 AM
1

I don't think that point exists. Very few guys I know have the kind of "abundance" that TRP talks about. Most have to put in work and effort to get laid even the so called alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:49 AM
1

29, I just got out of an LTR and I don't really have the time or interest for another one yet but I'm actively dating and get plenty of interest and attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:48 AM
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