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Question For WomenPrinceArchie/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:30 AM
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You must live under a rock. It’s already in popular media, a majority of men in the UK believe women do not care for them. He likely doesn’t actively date because he hasn’t been given interest despite his best efforts. Him getting a house and flaunting his new house from his perspective is likely attracting a woman who would just want the house. I see a lot of comments here telling the guy to basically get over it, with what I suspect to be age appropriate individuals with actually modern day ex…
/r/MensRights31/12/25 02:47 AM
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Dad doesn’t want him to forever spin girlfriends. Dad wants him to get a wife, the girlfriend just the first step. Dad isn’t understanding being a good guy and having a house doesn’t appeal to a lot of women in terms of a relationship. Your house, your job, that’s more or less your business and they could care less. Just evidence you’re an adult. My parents are the same way, they treat these things like women are actively looking for a catch. You ask enough women out, you notice the patterns you…
/r/MensRights31/12/25 02:33 AM
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The amount of L’s taken in one headline is crazy work.
/r/MensRights14/11/25 11:17 PM
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Yeah…..
/r/MensRights04/11/24 02:47 PM
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How did he die exactly? What did they do to cause his death?
/r/MensRights04/11/24 02:10 PM
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I mean it could very well be the case yes. Many movies with females leads have obvious feminist overtones. It’s not necessarily a bad thing merely an observation. Furthermore I don’t think OP called every feminist a misandrist, again just an observation on the dunk culture of the gendered messaging and response from the audience. Saying that the movie attempted to undermine the message of the first movie in an attempt to appeal more to the status quo isn’t a claim that women shouldn’t have right…
/r/MensRights04/10/24 07:41 AM
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There’s some patriotic types. Usually they have family who served as well.
/r/MensRights05/06/24 07:31 AM
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Currently in the military. I’m not in because I’m fighting for a gynocentric society. I’m in it because the financial and professional opportunities far outweigh many other options to the degree you have to realistically invest into. The military is a great choice especially for someone fresh out of high school with no real collegiate aspirations. You don’t get into debt, get a lot of money and you’ll be able to figure things out on a much easier curve than most of your peers.
/r/MensRights05/06/24 07:29 AM
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No good men thier age duh
/r/MensRights12/05/24 05:11 AM
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This. It’s amazing to me how some people attempt to rationalize why a random guy would plausibly be more dangerous than a bear without stating the caveat “let me play devils advocate “ to avoid making themselves looks foolishly silly. But as you said it’s really more a numbers game than anything, they misinterpret their “likely “ negative scenarios with a man because they are far more likely to encounter more random men. Whereas encountering a bear is incredibly rare and they are likely going to…
/r/MensRights29/04/24 03:01 PM
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Just because they dont want to marry you or have children doesnt mean there wont be women who dont want to have sex with you. Also I think the whole thing is overblown to a degree. Abstaining from any from of traditional relationship with men for life is an absurd thing to even consider, thats a level of isolation that I dont think many women can even justify in their own lives. You dont need to wage a war on women or get back at them, just be less idealistic and more opportunistic. It does seem…
/r/MensRights01/04/24 04:50 PM
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I'll check it out, im open to the idea of not knowing something about the topic, im no expert this is merely my lived experience and observations. I can see what you're getting at and I 100% understand the sentiment. It exists but I'd honestly say its very disingenuous to say black urban culture hasn't propagated to the extent it's simply the default "normal" way you're supposed to carry yourself. Doesn't matter what race of woman I've encountered around the world its more of the same every wher…
/r/MensRights16/03/24 06:23 AM
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It’s glorified is the point and it’s a valid point speaking as a young black man myself. While many black men find it endearing because a lot of sexually “liberated” women lean heavy into the archetype, it puts ALL black men into a particular box. Don’t believe me, go somewhere in your country or abroad where there isn’t a decent population of urban black people. Many women in those environments will expect you have some degree of “hood” to you and if they ever express sexual interest want you t…
/r/MensRights15/03/24 11:35 PM
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Extremely fucking sad. Actually almost brought to tears reading this.
/r/MensRights15/12/23 03:38 PM
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You only want to omit the K-pop details for what? Thats the only thing you’re intentionally disregarding. Why should I disregard that? Because it’s the only thing that makes this even worth discussing. What else is there to discuss? You can’t confirm the truth of this story either way, you’re already willing to accept she probably wants to go to a bunch of concerts in her 20s and not have a kid, why pull back on it specifically being kpop and BTS motivated? Why omit the detail that she deliberat…
/r/MensRights30/11/23 11:47 PM
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Can we stop saying she was “too young” as if she made a rational decision due to her age. This makes it seem as if 24 year olds are on average this mentally far gone. She is not a typical 24 year old. She has an unhealthy obsession with this Kpop group and is making long term decisions because of it. It was completely circumstantial that she chose not to have the baby due to “her age”, a convenient reason. Had she been more direct and honest she likely would have just told him straight up she wa…
/r/MensRights30/11/23 10:47 PM
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Because wanting to instead be a groupie who hasn’t been confronted about high key wishing she was having sexual Relationships with celebrities AND ACTIVELY MAKING DECISIONS TO PUT YOURSELF IN A POSITION TO DO SO WHILE IN A RELATIONSHIP OF YOUR OWN IS INCREDIBLY WARPED. It’s immature, it’s selfish hedonism. This isn’t something a normal twenty something year old would be doing. This is incredibly sad. Being too young to be a mom is a scapegoat, because while it’s true she’s actively doing somethi…
/r/MensRights30/11/23 10:39 PM
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She was right that if she has dreams and aspirations she shouldn’t be forced to abort, that if the pill failed she should still be able to make the hard choice. However she clearly did not think this was a hard choice, but moreover is not mentally ok. Live her “best fangirl life”? What hasn’t she already done as a fangirl, what is there more to do? Have unprotected sex with a BTS member without you knowing? Gaslight you into LETTING you go through that emotional turmoil knowingly? The truth is s…
/r/MensRights30/11/23 10:33 PM
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Nice and kind are synonymous. Someone who is identified or describes themselves as a “bad boy” or an asshole CAN be nice or kind at times; but defaults to a position of being combative and or non-agreeable. The consistent language to describe assholes or bad boys as being perpetually “kind” is intentional romanticism of a very specific type of individual. Conversely being a “nice guy” or someone “without a spine” is really a gross exaggeration often times. Here meekness is taken for weakness. Pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:20 AM
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Yeah theres a lot of things to really consider that could potentially just be sobering to say the least. I just wanted to emphasize that other guy's opinions largely doesnt matter, it's the doubt that the guy who is considering this relationship who may have. Those legitimate reservations are what matters most. I'm sure plenty of guys find happiness wit this alternative if they choose to do so, assuming they've reasonably considered the outcomes and have measured expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:24 AM
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I've followed RP content for years so I know the major points in regards to dating single moms and I think the pornstar comparison is quite apt. However you hyper focus on the part that matters least, which is the respect of strangers outside the relationship. That isn't the damning or the part people hesitate on. Men are notorious for saying one thing in public, but behind closed doors will be quite revisionist and do exactly the thing they said they never did, or elected to omit. There are man…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:44 AM
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I dont think it's insidious but I also think the "west" (specifically the US) really does put being able to pursue casual relationships and sexual liberation on a moral pedestal. If it was legal to engage in sex work and it wasnt stigmatized, there would be a comparable outlet for casual sex for those who dont garner it from people who don't think they are "good enough". Guys have to earn sex in the US, lots of other places you can just buy it and move on with your life, it's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:19 AM
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Gonna dismantle some of this because this is just odd and wrong in some areas. I’m still shocked that guys will still trying to push that monkey branching is just a woman thing when a guy just left his family for Ariana Grande. Who does this for real? Very few people can pull that off. Also wouldn't be "monkey branching" in the typical way monkey branching is described. Unless idk the guy is actively dating very attractive sugar mamas? Monkey branching implicates the other person "branch" is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:27 AM
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TLDR: Passive mild mannered guys aren’t extreme lamé conformists. They are simply laid back people who are generally open and approachable but are viewed as uninteresting. The resentment comes from being met with criticism from highly opinionated (and sometimes immature) people who can come off as hypocritical; because they are insistent on impressing your opinions on others. Behaving in this manner IS being an asshole, you are 100% being combative but unnecessary (yet socially acceptable) “asse…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:13 AM
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Hint: It starts with an uncomfortable amount of honesty and negativity. Right, it's not even "kindness", people have become (maybe always have been idk) drawn to find people interesting who can engage in constant light negativity. Consistent banter, jokes, etc. There are many people who aren't doormats, who aren't pushovers, who have opinions that simply just don't engage like that. These people are found to be uninteresting to a lot of people. Being mild mannered, non combative, conformist nice…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:07 AM
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You have to realize that these kind of guys are trapped by society's expectations for them. They're conformists that follow the 'rules' to an absurd degree. Seeing people that break those rules is threatening to them on an existential level. That 'don't give a fuck' attitude is so foreign to their way of thinking that it causes resentment. I have to hard disagree, its not that they are conformists to an extreme degree, it's that they don't have a problem with conforming for peace sake. Seeing pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:52 AM
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There is a middle grounds youre ignoring, which is being a decent person that doesnt get disrespectful or put you down when stating their opinion, but uses facts to state their point Is that not agreeing to disagree? Thats not asserting your point or being confident. someone who asserts their points with facts will tend to come off as just being passive aggressive, it's simply the nature of arguments. The subtle context to debates and disagreements. I would say that this guy is pretty on the mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:48 AM
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Yeah I said this in another comment but we've normalized being slightly mean to a significant extent, to the point it's required of guys to have to actively show they can be acceptably mean at times on a consistent basis. This means being incredibly opinionated or blunt, somewhat visibly disagreeable and willing to argue/be right, willing or actively engaging in mild negative behavior/teasing of others on a consistent basis to make things interesting. If you aren't willing to be moderately judgm…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:39 AM
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Most men aren't spineless wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:17 AM
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Ask a man who says if has trouble dating and he tells you he consistently: Doesnt engage socially/actively avoids people (might even admit to social anxeity) Doesn't make eye contact Doesnt smile People will almost ubiquitously say he is exhibiting anti-social behavior, meaning he is going out of his way to not socialize. Thats all that means. Now whether that be because of trauma, or neurodivergent behavior or whatever could definitely be a cause and an area to delve into to help them alleviate…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:38 PM
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it’s fine to not smile or make eye contact It's legitimately not though. This is what's so bizarre about the "nice guy" complaints. People have genuinely forgotten whats it's like to be genuine anymore. Or rather I think people are very skeptical and very judgmental. What you describe as "ok" is pretty anti-social behavior, and while you have the right to be anti-social, to you know actively avoid people without making a fuss; it is certainly not at all in anyway "nice", not even a little bit. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:40 PM
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Yeah but I'd also wager it's normalized in culture as a whole. This isn't like 5% of guys romanticizing 5% of women. This is a very large swath of people. Your "finely adjusted" man or woman who has not experienced any sort of trauma or isn't going through an degree of stress that is indicative of these behaviors described in the OP is pretty rare imho. Nothing OP said about how these people act, while we can acknowledge as not being "healthy" isn't uncommon. The eerily thing is it's EXTREMELY c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:10 PM
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I think your assessment and observations are very level headed and on the mark. That being said I think the underlying tone of the post, which correct me if im wrong, assumes most/significant number of women DONT have BPD is one I think is well problematic to say the least. This isn't because I want to believe that women are mentally ill or anything but the consistency we see people talk about trauma, needing therapy, exhibiting a lot of the BPD behaviors and general lack of empathy or extreme l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 09:59 PM
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I can understand that. The push back is fucked and it should be called out. I’m just speaking to the position of the idea of maintaining the status quo and wishing to see things changed. If women want men to change toxic stereotypes and speak against them while also taking them seriously there does need to be a degree of bravery and responsibility. Being willing to voice your opinion boldly when you feel something isn’t right. Men will take notice. This applies to men as well. Bad people exist a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:09 PM
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This is a load of shit. There is no difference between a man or a woman saying a joke isn’t funny. A joke can be inappropriate regardless of whether or not you are the punch line. So just because everyone else finds a joke funny but you don’t it’s ok? This is some odd mental gymnastics and a really round about way of absolving women from the responsibility of speaking up for things when they aren’t right and needing to be proactive when they see similar situations when essentially on the other f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:01 PM
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Why would a woman’s words hold less weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:34 PM
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Honest people with nothing to hide comply and don’t make spectacles or ultimatums when asked to confirm situations where confidence is lacking. If a model employee who doesn’t steal is asked if he took something off his bosses desk he would respond with “no”, and if asked to empty his pockets wouldn’t make a scene. They might question but most honest people would just empty their pocket’s promptly with no rebuttal because a showing of compliance with little resistance significantly reduces suspi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:22 PM
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Interesting. Are you being raped right now? If not how’d you manage to escape?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:01 PM
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Sure but shouldn’t the same expectation be of women? I don’t see many women standing up for men who receive rude unsolicited comments from their colleagues or peers in my experience. It’s simply assumed the guy deserved it, or is probably what he’s being harassed for. Or “it’s just a joke hahahahaha”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:00 PM
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I think this sort of propagation of self loathing or hyper critical behavior of men in general is part of the problem OP was talking about though. It’s incredibly dismissive to say it’s simply mens fault if they are lonely and lack any sort of romantic connection. The “too desperate “ part is especially telling. It’s just blatantly dismissive entirely ignoring how dire the situation is in regards to male loneliness in this regard. Not everyone has accepted their lack of prospects as you have nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:10 AM
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And when was he “officially your boyfriend “? For most guys it’s pretty much a rule of thumb she probably isn’t your girlfriend if you haven’t had sex yet, unless it is explicitly defined you guys are dating with the intention of not having sex until much later. You’re kinda just their friend, maybe “close friends “. “Beta buxx” gets a wife when he gets his life together and looks like a stable husband. They leverage their stability and implicit “open minded attitude “, for a girl who is looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:40 AM
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Who gets into a committed relationship without casual sex or at least ONE casual encounter beforehand to somewhat solidify or verify the idea of a relationship? I’ve not once seen, heated or experienced a situation in my 12 years of caring about dating where either party, man or woman courted each other traditionally in the states. Confirming sexual compatibility or just looking for someone who isn’t boring tend to be precursors for most relationships in your late teens and throughout your twent…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 03:20 AM
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This isn't how I define relationships wholistically or people, that being said considering observable tracked stats this is interesting to compare face value. Well there are several calculators, I used two (three if you count the other female delusion calc as separate) just for fun and to see if they got similar results. The information is indeed sourced differently, however I think given certain parameters you get fairly similar results. This calculator said 33% of women in the US meet my stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:58 PM
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Knowing her level of income, level of education, number of children that she has, past/recent marriages (or divorces) and general body parameters (height, weight, race) are all incredibly important. For either sex too I might add.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:00 PM
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I don’t think they are evil and I don’t want them to just die. It’s more so that sometimes they can be incredibly dismissive and tone deaf is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:28 AM
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What are you confused about? Tons of men’s experience when growing up and being told how to attract a woman are largely things that have nothing to do with attraction tbh. I mean you could argue “being nice” is attractive, but I’d wager to say it’s really not. Here’s what most guys are told to do: Be presentable Get a good job Be nice That’s really it. You think I’m exaggerating but I’m really not and everything else you kinda just figure it out, largely because I suspect, parents expect their c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:41 PM
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The reality is being nice isn’t the minimum though, you could be a complete asshole and still get into a relationship. It’s relative. What OP is talking about is simply the world’s effort to disillusion its youth based off unrealistic expectations that truly shape a youths entire moral compass and actions well into adulthood. I wince every time someone on the internet acts better than others because they “figured out” life at the ripe old age of 16-20 something years old. No one does, many peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:33 PM
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This is extremely restrictive and unrealistic. Part of intentionally socializing is putting yourself at risk of being rejected whether it be man or woman. The best advice to give when advising someone to socialize is to, look/smell presentable and just be genuinely interested in whatever they are doing. Be prepared to take a "no" or even a potentially rude comment in stride. To move on if rejection occurs. Obviously intentionally seeking to date women is a bit nuanced but honestly the approach i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 01:46 PM
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It’s the classic everyone else is at fault paradigm. If you’ve seemingly got ever going for you in life but you cannot find yourself in the desired relationship you want, there might be something about your habits, lifestyle, approach,etc that is inhibiting your success. Only these women can take a good look at themselves and really change what is essentially the most common denominator.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:58 AM
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Wait EVERYONE is crazy? HUH?! Im 29 years old, I lived in the states for 28 years. I think it’s fair to say at this point you literally have gotten to a point you interpret modern day socialization as go to bar and go drink. But that’s so contradictory to a safe space not only that but it’s very niche despite what is pitched in social media and other forms of entertainment. Most times I went to a club or bar even it wasn’t even THAT social. You can try to chat up a girl all day long, even when y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:18 PM
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That’s the problem. If the only places to be social are specifically engineered spaces to get drunk that’s only going to appeal to people who want to get drunk? Like this is really a societal critique and one that most people agree on. Most people in this thread have been pretty soft on you I’m this regard but you really are dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:03 PM
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What constitutes as a “person worth getting to know”? You said something that’s both vague yet simultaneously profound in my opinion because it’s very subjective but also a window into how you value people and how you perceive women value others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:27 AM
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I genuinely do not understand the “boring” tid bit testimonials always love to interject. Perhaps I’m a “boring” person but I’ll buck back and honestly if I could get an honest reply it would be appreciated. I’ve encountered people in the past, men and women who literally lament they are “boring”. When in fact they are simply not asserting their opinions or hobbies. They aren’t the type of people who actively or even passively judge other peoples interests, styles, senses of self/interests, etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:07 AM
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Most men reconcile with this reality very early on especially if they cannot rely on looks or charm to garner the attention of women. It’s simply a reality for many men that they will need to leverage financial stability to attract a partner. It’s more or less acknowledging you weren’t lucky enough to have a girl “like you for you”, or whatever fantasy is sold. Not a big deal, life goes on you get what you want in the end anyway. Life’s good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:50 AM
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Why comment this and leave it be in a vacuum? This is completely irrelevant to the point, which is women’s attitudes towards complicit Sex workers and their parity to sexually active “liberated” women? There are men btw who do muse over the idea of getting into relationships and marrying sex workers, some do even. However in these instances both men and women do not look favorably on these relationships or the women in them. Furthermore there tends to be a unique set of challenges that come alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:12 PM
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Isn’t the discussion explicitly about women’s alleged attitude for the “average “ man though, which in a way is a very specific question given context these discussions tend to revolve around relationships? In your example sure “respect “ sort of loosely fits here. I also don’t think it has to specifically apply to sex or the like, however it is indeed in regards to perception of the other party in context. You engage in a polite conversation if they initiate politely that’s definitely a start, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 08:17 PM
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ah makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:46 AM
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You consistently get women on dates after blatantly telling them you’re broke? You sure you aren’t selling some sort of dating service lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:28 AM
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Could you list these expectations that are so low they may as well exist in hell? Also what do men tend to say in private that is just reprehensible and far too common?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:59 AM
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I respect individual men until given indication not to. But the comment wasn't about you and somewhere along this conversation you became all women that think like you, whoever those women might be, then you proceeded to try to validate it. Also you did misconstrue what I said 1000%. You compared your interaction with men you employ to do your plumbing and things around the house to your "chad" supervisor or any such similar guy who doesnt make their intentions clear to you offset, tries to hit …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:53 AM
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I meet all of those, yet men can’t meet the bar so low it’s in hell Whats the bar, without including things like "treats me like a human being". Most guys aren't out here violating the geneva convention.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:30 AM
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I'll respond since you aren't making new narratives really but still misconstruing the entire tone of this. Btw this needn't be your moment or opportunity to educate. I'm more than happy to talk about your perspective without the need for you to try to seemingly fix something you perceive is wrong. Just discuss. Respect ≠ wanting to date! Pretty benign way to start things, could go anywhere really, was looking forward to see what you had to say though I had my reservations, which well... then it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:19 AM
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All things considered the prompt is specifically talking about a general public perception of the average man/woman and if there exists "respect" for one another. Not considering someone's social status or being "average" as someone who is worthy or not worthy of your respect defeats the point of the intended conversation and thus my subsequent argument, it's literally the entire point. I suppose though derailing that to prove youre a special snowflake is worth your time though. I understand tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:45 AM
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Sorry to hear. Happens to the best of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:45 AM
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They aren’t mutually exclusive in a vacuum is my point, none of what you said contradicts what I said. Let me make it more clear because it really isn’t necessarily about dating more so general perception. If your general view of the average male is negative chances are you don’t have “respect” for the average man. That doesn’t mean you can’t respect men it just means your bar for respect is higher than what you’d perceive the average male tends to meet. It’s no different than people who don’t r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:44 AM
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I think most people would prefer someone with similar sexual experience within a few degrees of each other. If you happen to be very sexually experienced and traveled then I’d recommend you practice discretion because either gender will find that unflattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:34 AM
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The average guy would like a girl who doesn’t have children, isn’t aggressive/combative/incessantly opinionated within their relationship , loud or rude; isn’t materialistic to the point she demands he spend at her whimsical fancy, isn’t overweight and is willing to have sex a few times a week at best. The bar here is pretty low tbh. Also naturally some things are more tolerable depending on how sexually rousing she is, guys do think with their dick a little too much sometimes so it’s not like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:29 AM
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Or go to a normal restaurant or bar where a meal is like $30-50 a person for a first date? Super low investment and decent food like what? In the words of the most recent viral video, “what’s wrong with Cheesecake Factory “?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:26 AM
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You’re spending nearly $200 to essentially “come correct “ just to get the opportunity to get to know some average girl? Come on now, that’s quite the investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 01:23 AM
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I think it's nuanced but addressing the context here, that being expectations of intimacy, a relationship or both; I think basic respect here could still apply. For instance would it be considered "respectful" for a guy to speak negatively about a woman who is having dating issues and cites the reason for his comments is that she isn't a virgin and had 3 long term boyfriends already? How about cites the reason is that she works as a nurse and that nurses tend to be promiscuious individuals with …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:01 AM
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What I tend to find in regards to "respect" is honestly pretty apt when men say women do not "respect" them. If I were to strike up conversation in a friendly manner with a random woman and during the conversation I told her I was an officer in the military or a surgeon in NYC or an Attorney in California, while wearing a suit I would command respect. Her facial expression and mannerisms would be very distinct. She'd likely be making eye contact, smiling, possibly inquire what my daily work or d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:24 PM
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Basic human deceny is vauge and very broad and I think a bit disingenuous. I think women want every bit as much of the respect for who they are as individuals that men seek from peers, associates or family members.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:08 PM
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Completely depends on the situation which is infuriating to even say itself because it leaves room for everything but is also the classic set up for the common sense argument. Meaning you assume everyone engages the same way you do within the same contextual PoV. You can get caught up in a lot of unnecessary BS that can escalate quickly if a woman takes something the wrong way or finds something offensive. Less so from a random stranger passing by, moreso from collages/work associates and disgru…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:56 PM
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Aside from being run through the gauntlet of negative criticism, unwanted expectations and a laborious effort to “self improve” to the point you simply may have to cede that many things that make you the individual you may pride yourself in being simply may not align with what’s socially acceptable or attractive in a potential partner at that particular time ; there is something to legitimately be said about the foundation of relationships as a whole. Not everyone is looking for a relationship w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:14 AM
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No the problem is women who aren’t extraordinary think themselves extraordinary and take offense when someone tells them they aren’t. Been reading a lot of comments here and it’s wild how OP is really trying to sell this idea that if you aren’t overweight and don’t already have a child (presumably by the time you are in your early thirties) as a SINGLE WOMAN ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR A RELATIONSHIP that you are somehow a goddess? So what does that make a young man who literally meets those same crite…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:48 AM
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All of my male friendships even the closest ones have an element of competition in them yes. This has always been the case from childhood through adulthood. Maybe some people perceive it worse than others but I generally find it fun, so as long as the friend isn’t using it as a crutch to mask an insecurity. That’s when it can be messy. But like yeah there’s always an element of competition in male friends I’ve seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:51 PM
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They either probe why isn’t it or they flat out say it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:48 PM
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Do you think women’s views on male shitty behavior started with the sexual revolution mid 20th century? Like the first woman in the history of the world to ever think “wow men are really violative” thought that in 1969 Berkeley, CA? Why are you playing dumb? You know exactly what you said and your frame of reference here. Not even just to me but many other comments. You intentionally hold on to very antiquated ideas of male behavior or trends of thought to reinforce your idea that you have legit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:28 PM
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Dont think women are reasonably leery when they try to make legitimate antiquated parallels to men of 50+ years ago with young millennials today. No I think at that point it’s feeding into bullshit that simply isn’t true on the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:23 PM
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And you just affirmed what I said congratulations. Also your personal experience while unfortunate, is a great example of what I’m talking about. A grown man doesn’t represent the peers you grew up with who eventually grew with you into adulthood. Older men tend to have a much different view of women than younger men do. You quite frankly equate one in the same here in your example, considering you actually read what I originally said. Same goes for the stalker unless you mean to imply most if n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:02 PM
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One of your pet peeves is someone telling you that maybe your perception is heavily skewed by sensationalism on social media and the internet? Doubt it considering you’re on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:46 PM
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I sincerely think that the frame of reference for most women’s negative views today on men, especially the younger generation is heavily influenced by niche toxic situationships/manufactured extreme personalities sensationalized by social media. Perhaps some of the older generation legitimately experienced antiquated toxic gendered stereotypes which legitimately put them in terrible spots but by and large I don’t think many young men today truly represent that mindset or attitude. The idea that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:25 PM
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Posit this, what would life for a woman be like if you were told over and over that no one owes you nothing. That any inconsistencies or double standards in life are yours alone to bear and that any form of retaliation or cry for help would be met with reprisals. That due to your gender (and by extension implied sexual orientation) you are not allowed to cry or express sorrow or discontent openly. That you must suffer and endure that suffering in both body and mind; that you must become competen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 11:15 AM
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Realistically character assassination or false allegations. Both are terribly difficult to refute even if people know you. Lots of things seem plausible to people and if the woman is likable enough any little thing can lead others to false perceptions. I’ve had a few of these myself/witnessed a few first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:31 AM
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Acknowledging most end means you should to some degree internalize that it’s “just your turn “, instead of having a very utopian point of view for the sake of it. It’s blind faith in the idea of love you’re really advocating for. In my personal opinion the only thing that should override this possibility of it “just being your turn” which is a reasonably rational one, is that there is something keeping you there more than just “love”. Duty. Duty to your family, your faith, etc. If there is No in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:44 PM
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This is just a silly take made in bad faith. Social Media is often a reflection of what popular and whats acceptable or whats being propagated within our society. Maybe for you outside the US you cannot relate to Tik Tok trends that pertain to U.S youth, but if people from the U.S are concerned about it, why try to argue they are just paranoid, hateful or otherwise? It requires an intelligent person to be able to understand the nuances of what are purely only jokes, whats candid opinion and what…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 09:18 AM
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Indeed, I think the last bit of your response really is all that needs to be said ultimately and what most men would be willing to live with. It’s the reciprocity, the beautiful human element and example of mutual respect and cooperation we need.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 12:30 AM
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As you said in your other post to reply to a person who asked what should HVM do when faced with the notion that they should “settle down”, this very liberal take Is extremely flawed. Simply for the fact that it gives all the leverage to women for no justifiable reason. It assumes women are superior to men in every measurable facet due to implied value or effort in the social market. This is extremely subjective and quite literally the mirror of the antiquated view that men are validated in all …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:04 PM
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Ok I'll bite I see this argument a lot. However, people who promote it rarely propose real solutions. Like, what do you actually accept women to do? So let me ask you, do you think it's appropriate for the world to say "only women can solve womens issues, what do you want men to do"? We don't exist in a vacuum in society, even if women claim men can be perpetrators in some womens issues, men aren't the cause of all womens issues and ALL men aren't responsible for holding any other man who commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:43 PM
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I didn't say women should be expected to open their legs for anyone. You choose when you have sex with someone. I dont understand how this gets conflated or lost in translation. Have sex with a guy that gives a shit about you. Just because someone is your ex and you at one point had sex with him doesnt mean he never gave a shit about you. Doesnt mean he used you either. A lot of women have to take accountability when it comes to this. Either trust your personal judgement skills on a persons char…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:53 PM
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In all honesty the board is STACKED for men. Men who can realize this have all the cards but men who don’t well this dynamic horribly is unfair to them. Elaborate on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:34 PM
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Also if you pay good enough money, some escorts will listen to your problems and offer a hug. Seriously it's this sort of mindset that is seemingly pervasive in women (even in my own family) that really makes me scoff at the notion women are at ALL empathetic or "emotionally intelligent". The latter should've never been a term campaigned for BY women unironically, the most unempathetic people I've met in my life. You are incredibly cold and out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:36 PM
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It’s definitely debatable. Im sure many women despite not feeling satisfied with not finding their Mr.Right definitely prefer (or would prefer) the ease of opportunity to see if the next guy could be him, rather than going through the challenge it is to be a man and fight an uphill battle just to be trusted at all. It’s an entirely different paradigm that gets overlooked because you don’t prefer those guys. Nonetheless ultimately I do think it a privilege, just like it’s a privilege for men to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:04 PM
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The women you describe as “delusional “ are every bit (if not more so) unsatisfied with the their perceived prospects. The distinction is to draw is whether or not you find someone you’re attracted to. It’s if you can land anyone and to what degree. Male single and female single for sure mean very different things often times. There’s nothing wrong in acknowledging and accepting that. If that means for women they have a bunch of potential suitors, a majority of which they aren’t interested in, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:56 PM
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Yes….. YES. How is this an offensive thing to even imply it’s simply the truth. Would it be offensive, any less true or unsatisfying to acknowledge that a person born into wealth is simply living life on east street because their standard of living is so above everyone else that averages contrivances are merely afterthoughts? No it’s every bit true, the wealthy are privileged in this regard, similarly women are privies to the attention of men because naturally men desire them a lot more on avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:50 PM
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What?? Any is never the point of reference in these sorts of talks. It’s literally the opportunity that’s the only thing ever up for debate, nothing more. For all intents and purposes largely any functioning woman can enter a LTR at her choosing in very simple fashion. Men do not have that luxury. Sure it’s nuanced in what you actually desire, but strictly speaking on the merit of being able to get INTO a relationship? How is that even a serious point of conversation? Women beat men by a mile.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:47 PM
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But those men are “single” by choice in every sense. This just speaks to the disingenuous nature of the conversation whenever it arises. It’s one thing to want sympathy for feeling unfulfilled romantically or in a rut of sorts. It’s a whole other matter to actually accept the fact that you indeed are in a place of actionable choice due to your set of circumstances and are largely in control of your perspective and outcome. In the context of a relationship as it regards the guy you detail or most…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:36 PM
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I, and men who think like me are the equivalent of modern women not settling for the good average guy. Going to be direct when I say this. The distinct similarity between men "like you" (as you described) and women who behave/express themselves similarly, is that you skirt around the point, are disingenuous and aren't being honest with the audience nor yourself. Your post falls flat because you basically said nothing. You gave no insight into why a woman with "green flags" is unattractive to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:25 AM
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Single women and i mean a lot of them are lonely There's something to be said about the degree of loneliness, hunger, pain etc a person goes through in order to reasonably make a change or truly seek something out. I'd wager that most women feel uncomfortable about thier single/casual dating lives. They aren't truly lonely though. They likely feel they have enough support/coping mechanisms in place to subvert that uncomfortable feeling of an unfulfilled romantic life. A truly lonely person is ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:52 AM
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Warning, incoming rant. TL:DR- Most guy whose main hobby is gaming don’t have an addiction, this is the modern day couch dad who watches sports. If you as a woman have a problem with this, your either over reacting or overstepping your boundaries. Imploring guys to “be more productive “ when they are plenty fine with their current level of “productivity “ is just you being a hypocritical asshole. There doesn’t exist a reasonable fear that guys who play games make bad boyfriend’s. My only problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:47 AM
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I don’t think many men are jealous nor would I call the negativity around the perceived disparity jealousy. It’s more akin to resentment for the criticism and expectation levied against them. It makes sense when you think about it and honestly any person put in that position would likely feel resentment unless there was an outlet or they managed to get what they wanted in a way they felt contentment. Think of it like this. For a lot of guys they perceive a woman’s romantic life to be one where s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:00 PM
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Where do you get the idea that being an “adult” absolves you from reprehensible or irresponsible behavior? You actually believe adults cannot bully people? Do you know what a bully is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:29 PM
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I don’t know why you’re denying that you like to engage in gaslighting. Just accept it man, you just keep digging yourself a deeper hole by upping the ante.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:28 PM
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Cherry picking my response to OP, to emphasize why you personally feel responsible for your social Integration in life doesn’t accomplish anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:23 AM
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Clearly I disagree. Your frame of reference presupposes the parents job for social integration (in regards to a relationship) ends at stating a few platitudes. Which is exactly the point of contention. Otherwise why would you have an issue with people telling you it is indeed a parents job to teach their child how to attract a mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:21 AM
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Here’s my thing with this. There exists a framework in which you can set you kids up for success. Your entire premise is faulty for the major reason that you assume the guidelines to a young person finding a relationship and exist in one under your conditions is ubiquitous. Now you can claim “I didn’t say….” in which case you’d be even more wrong because you failed to establish a point of reference. We start here, a parent’s job or responsibility to their child is to ensure they do everything wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:34 AM
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Look I’m just gonna say this, you don’t have to do all that. The 63% was faulty to begin with because it was out of like 900 guys between the ages of 18-29 , some of which were gay (which is pretty relevant to the topic of this thread). Trying to extrapolate that further to make a definitive call either way doesn’t do anyone any real good. Most of these studies are also similarly of small sample sizes and don’t paint the whole picture. My point in bringing it up was that you can’t claim “most” a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:07 AM
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I asked a specific question. You can answer it or not lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:32 AM
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Where are you getting that distinction from for that particular age range? The study I am referring to (2022 pew research one) didn’t make that distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:24 AM
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Yeah well like I said women take this to the 99th degree often times and that’s why guys lie and will continue to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:09 AM
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This looks less like sharing some pass times more about doing every single thing together because conveniently you partner so happens to be interested in everything you are. Which is why I pushed back to the idea of judging the man’s hobbies the way so many women do. It’s literal projection. You aren’t into the guy because he’s an interesting individual you like to share your time with, no he’s the perfect individual that likes everything you do and is thus the perfect match. It’s convenient bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:26 AM
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Around 63% of men under the age of 30 are single. That drops to about 25% of men once they pass 30. For people saying “average men” are in relationships, it doesnt really tell the whole story. That’s pretty important context, especially when we contrast dating dynamics and expectations of people under 30 and post 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:38 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:42 PM
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always take him away from not towards them. Do you mean hobbies that take him away from her, hobbies that don't include her? I mean again why is this such a set in stone thing though? Men have their own hobbies and if they like you they will likely do SOME things with you. It's really not that complicated. You want to know when it gets annoying? When it becomes a frequently planned event that's inconvenient. If you're essentially CONSTANTLY planning activities to the extent you are itemizing his…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:51 PM
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Work twoard finding the person you want to be with. But interact with people often, dont just sit in a room and theorize. Interact with people. Eventually you will remember why you need "personal space" and you will reinvigorate your joy in your hobbies when the grind for finding your partner becomes tedious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:24 PM
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Me and my brothers grew up playing sports, playing instruments, doing yard work, raking leaves for the community, shoveling snow and breaking icy roads/sidewalks/drive throughs for the elderly and other STEM related extra curriculars. As well as washing dishes and occasionally cooking from time to time. I'm not entirely sold on the idea that all boys are sold on the idea of just doing nothing because bad mothers or the "patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:00 PM
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Thats an incredibly quick turn around. Most guys aren't aiming to churn through 2-3 girls every 6 months, and honestly I'd hardly call those relationships anything serious. Of the guys I know who were anywhere remotely close to this they were out clubbing often and those women were short term flings. The average guy isn't a serial monogamist just meandering through life not willing to settle down imho. A guy who has 4-6 new girlfriends every year is doing REALLY REALLY well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:37 PM
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Are you actually being serious? You're holding men in contempt for not giving you the opportunity to reject them over incredibly menial things? The reason men will NEVER be themselves with women is because women are so hot and cold about what they like/dont like. Why risk losing the opportunity to a relationship over something as small as finding walks on the beach tedious? Anything could be an "ick". Lots of guys reluctantly do things because thats the only in they will have with most women the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:28 PM
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And whats a middling number of women who actively pine for the average guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:16 PM
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It isn't an accomplishment to be adulting though and there are complexities to the expectations, responsibilities and lifestyles associated. The most egregious thing in all of this is that it's just presupposed that every women outside of the modern era was a literal slave to a man domestically. There is almost never an intelligent analysis and modern day comparison of how those societies, to include our own even several decades ago worked with those gendered expectations and outcomes. So essent…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:04 PM
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Im legitimately confused as to what you're asking here, because it looks like you basically have a problem with every person under the sun having an opportunity to procreate at some point in time in their lives? What is actually being said here? You pretty much qualified everyone, so everyone is... bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:12 PM
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But I think it can be taken too far and seem off putting. This is the part where I think OP really makes the distinction between "blue pill" and "red pill". The tendency for "blue pill" commentary to essentially say " well he was great but if he just didnt do this one little thing thats my pet peeve we would have clicked Tee hee". Like no. There is no significance, no need to essentially give your two cents to what you would appreciate someone WOULD do to appeal to you. If that extra bit of crit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:09 AM
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Honestly when I really think about it they are very very similar and almost equivalent. But I would give the edge to the friendzone because often times a woman is intentionally getting way more preferential treatment in this sort of scenario for practically nothing in return. Whereas in the context of a sexual relationship both parties at least openly acknowledge they find each other sexually attractive and are thus having thier sexual needs met mutually. A man who is in the "friendzone" is neit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:40 AM
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When I talk to women, I feel like they are typically from another planet. I almost never have anything in common with them, and they are on an entirely different wavelength. I think this right here is the big tell. A lot of women are hyper fixated on social aspects of life to a point it becomes a turn off. Ever heard of a woman complain about her SO caring too much about video games, or cars or sports? Yeah I feel the same way when all a woman wants to talk about is relationships, possible kink,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:04 AM
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To be honest with you, a lot of people engage passionately with things in the moment but are also inundated with other things in life, or are simply just unmotivated to overcome personal hurdles. I know and have seen men who felt extremely unsuccessful with women and really made it a goal to pour every ounce of energy, money and time they had available to turn that around. They almost always end up getting what they want in some capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:14 PM
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I can’t speak for all men or in particular those who struggle with specific problems which may manifest into more extreme struggles (for a time Autism was brought up a lot on this sub). What I will say in regards to MY loneliness as a man is that it comes and goes. Making friends, organizing events, finding a “tribe” and having outings to go to isn’t particularly hard for me. In fact amongst my closest friends I was very proactive in organizing things to do, even if we had no formal plan, just g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:05 PM
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I don’t agree with that at all. Men who prioritize sex and women get sex and women. Men who prioritize other things find themselves wrapped in those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:45 PM
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Yeah but common social recommendations and feedback from women often translates to being a legitimate chore. You get critiqued for every little thing you might like, your mannerisms, tendencies or not being adventurous enough, or "interesting" enough, etc, etc. Women notoriously diagnose men, or think they know every guys "problem" and either demand or suggest they fix themselves; without ever considering that they need to just fucking chill. I talk to plenty of women and when conversations like…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:52 PM
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None of these indicate any man hates women. He is just covering his ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 03:27 PM
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It's not that the East doesnt have problems, it's that for a guy who lives in the states (or west in general) they can leverage the one thing they have; living in an economically superior country to at least play the part of desirable guy somewhere where women don't have access to that often. And before you try to inundate me with "but passport bros isn't real love" type stuff, yes I know. A lot of women in the east who even engage with men honestly are engaged in some type of sex work or even a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 09:05 PM
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You're assuming a bunch of money gets used for socialist programs globally and gets disbursed among the current working population. Why wouldnt that money just be consolidated within the companies and elites that hold it? Properties (assets) will probably just get possessed by the government or taken by private entities for debts that people have accrued, the age of retirement will likely increase as we are currently seeing in parts of Europe. Men between the ages of 20-35 with no Gf or wife are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:39 PM
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Attractive doesn’t mean above average for men is what I’m trying to tell you. You can be an attractive woman and “average”. Women who are rated between a 5-7 are generally considered “average “ (maybe slightly above average) for most men. These women are also considered attractive. Again I will reiterate, unless you have any of the unattractive physical characteristics without anything at all to offset them, men will consider you “attractive “ ENOUGH to date. I think the distinction here is impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:39 AM
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Why would you think “average”=/= unattractive? There’s degrees of attractiveness. Someone of “average” attractiveness simply means that they are a person who looks as good as most decent looking people. Well groomed, mostly symmetrical face, typical body proportions. Just in the middle. That isn’t “unattractive “, it’s a baseline that’s good enough. You can be “attractive “ and be “good enough “. Unattractive means you have a conventionally unattractive feature. Maybe an obvious deformity, reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 06:10 AM
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Half those women (the last three) are clearly in the 50+ year old range and that’s being generous. The first three could easily find dates and are well within the “average “. Most men would consider them dateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:38 AM
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That’s the only connection I see in todays world as a young man who grew up in the last two decades and was very interested in world politics and social issues. Edification to be a “better man” has been incredibly obfuscated by how things actually play out in the real world. Many men aren’t mentored nor are they given room to fail or find themselves. You’re either a loser who didn’t blossom soon enough and will never amount to anything, or you are assumed to be some prodigal son who takes for gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 01:26 AM
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I’ve yet to see society at large take a man initiative to “build men”. We build women and tell men they already have everything and if anything they are lazy, entitled, misogynistic abusers. The point of society equating a man’s worth to the woman he has is true but that isn’t done to uplift men, it’s to create division and a call to action. Be a man that women feel they are worth being with or you’re a loser. How is that uplifting?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:42 AM
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Women did it even though they couldn’t attend college, earn their own money, get a bank account or credit, and were routinely raped and beaten by their husbands for thousands of years. Ok..... another one of the retribution crusaders. Speaking for all women of all time, all of which were beaten and raped and still continue to be beaten and raped by every man who has ever lived. I will never take this argument seriously because it can be dismantled to it's very core and honestly when you really t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:15 PM
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But thats basically what you just said. What "community and fellowship" do women provide men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:13 PM
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People say dumb stuff like "below average" man to describe someone typically with "special" outliers. Very socially awkward, mental health issue/disorder, obese, etc. That being said I also see it being used with "average man" in some conversations because some conversations end up being very zero sum. Meaning if you aren't deemed "attractive", and are just "average", you may as well be unattractive, undateable, etc. Idk these convos tend to be extreme a lot of times tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:04 PM
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“Maintaining frame” is exactly the kind of bullshit rhetoric people complain about the RP. It is thinking you are better than another man EXACTLY because you’ve convinced yourself women like you for “you”. Your “frame”, how you’ve personalized masculinity in your life and set it as your moral compass. Get off your high horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:08 AM
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So your response to a completely rational adjustment to his own life, is to call the man pathetic because he isn’t forcing a woman into his life to like him? I don’t understand this idealistic dogma because that is what it is. No one has to live life the way you deem is right. Don’t play shit off like “well personally I think it would be pretty cool to have a girl that likes me and loves me for me and blah blah blah” like you aren’t being an asshole. Lots of guys are in the position he is and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:21 AM
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If it was a one night thing I’d probably do the first 20 yr old. But the rest I m going with the 50 yr olds. Though thing is, even the first one could lose like 15 pounds and increase her stock incredibly. Idk maybe the idea of light exercise and eating less is just that mortifying/ debilitating/ unappealing to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:06 AM
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And a man who doesn’t want to be with a girl who doesn’t contribute at half isn’t in the same situation morally?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:16 PM
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And this is the quintessential moral argument OP talks about. You presume women are morally (or otherwise) justified in being shallow with who they pick. “They pump out babies so them being shallow isn’t actually shallow it’s smart”. Right so doesn’t that call into question equity of opportunity? This whole “equality “ movement? The double standard of a man compared to a women in regards to societal expectations? In what world are men and women equal when every choice a woman makes is morally co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:07 PM
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You are being obtuse. You can’t acknowledge the reality of which fate is worse and try to force the ideal. You can’t force women to be attracted to you. You can’t have a healthy relationship ( or talking friends do not try to be obtuse) with someone who doesn’t want a relationship with you. You could be the nicest guy in the world, a literal saint, nearly all women proudly say they will never be with a man they aren’t attracted to. Not even that many women in this very sub say they do not care o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:57 PM
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No I understand, though I don’t think the post is stupid at all. It’s simply another example of how men and women perceive the other to be the bad guy or misguided one in this situation. I believe you when you say you think women operate within what they feel is an acceptable range of attractiveness. However I would also say that men do this as well, so when we see the claims of either gender being molded by unrealistic body standards based on social media or porn; it’s either neither men nor wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:35 AM
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The point that is trying to be made (in fairness by someone who is poorly communicating it) is that the guys you go for have far too much leverage due to thier looks or at the very least behave that way. SO find a slightly less attractive guy, who still meets your attractive markers, but doesnt have that chip on thier shoulder that thier looks are clearly carrying them in the relationship. Thats essentially the critique, the guys who dont commit to you probably dont because they can afford to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:20 AM
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I mean I can see why you feel he is implying men want that. But like you do realize that not only is he saying these are "preferences" which are critiqued, it's a vague generalization and conclusion to come to as a whole from just one comment. A guy saying he dislikes "large labias" probably represents a very small minority because lets be frank, most men aren't talking about vaginas like that. Also having shaved genitals is not just a female standard, many people expect men to be shaved too. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:16 AM
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My issue isn't with people having their own range of attraction for their partners. My issue is when people - and on this sub, it's almost always men - trying to tell women that we should just give people we aren't attracted to a chance anyway. Many women do this to men in a myriad of ways though as well. Most notably trying to make subversive remarks to imply most men have unreasonable body standards for women. Ie: every guy only wants an OF model of porn star and are frustrated they cannot loc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:11 AM
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If men expect bodies to only look a certain way because of porn Where do you get this from? Curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:06 AM
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Yeah but isn’t this clearly less about where you went to school and more about invalidating you because they feel you essentially were the benefactor of pretty privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:20 PM
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No it isn’t. Even teenagers know this lmao. In fact when I was in high school a girl who I was acquainted with said this verbatim in front of a bunch of other boys and girls. “You aren’t boyfriend material but you’re great husband material “. Take that as you will. It was embarrassing to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:03 AM
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It's so fascinating how every narrative around society and women is that women are an oppressed class of people that never had a fair chance to be "themselves" and form relationships with men how they wanted. Lets say this is the case, lets take all of what you said face value. Ok you now have the choice because you don't "need" a man. Why is it that you evaluate relationships with another human being as being too burdensome? This is why feminists will forever get push back. You can't criticize …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:51 PM
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It simply just being complicit with a double standard because it benefits you and in some cases provides you legitimate leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:04 PM
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Idk. I’ve never seen this as a complaint. This isn’t even a widespread complaint from what I read or watch either. IF ANYTHING maybe it’s a complaint on societal expectations at large conflating marriage/cohabitation and child rearing and just simplifying this expectation to “I’m not seen as a man if I don’t reproduce “. Which maybe is the case. There’s definitely societal pressure for family and lots of discourse on the falling birth rate. It just doesn’t appear to be the case that a vast major…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:06 PM
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A few things.. Do you and your date have anything in common? If you date based on values, interests, and personality, you’re less likely to play jester because you’re already clicking so well. Sure on the surface. Not everyone shares the same values until they really get to know one another though. Many "dates" can and do really just start off by vaguely "clicking" with someone (Ie they pass the hot enough to fuck, few/no red flags to run from meter). No deep introspective talks, no moments of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:32 PM
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Neither gender resorting to violence or shaming after rejection (this is not a one sided thing) N-count shaming was disavowed (no shaming for inexperience or too many partners) Both men and women were 100% brutally honest about why they find someone attractive and want to date them. (Personality is a cop out in most instances. Most people are socially congruent.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:27 AM
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Women may have these preferences but they do not always land them. It’s just biology at play and eventually other things override that. Just like your vitamin D example is overcome by the wonders of modern medicine, there’s this awesome thing called birth control, AA, EO and diversity hiring. All these things that allows women to become educated,enter the workforce in higher paying male dominated fields , control when they want to get pregnant and be financially dependent of a man. Women do not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:25 AM
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Neither, hypergamy is for survival and thats if she has the luxury of choosing between competitors. If a woman was put in an environment where men were able to have a free for all essentially, shed have no choice in the matter (unless external force were involved). In a civilized society I honestly dont think hypergamy is at play either, it's moreso just leverage at that point. Supply and demand. If men are willing to give you resources and attention due to your beauty you will capitalize on it …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:22 AM
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You seem to be under the impression women value men for who they are but men do not largely try to at first sight or even reciprocate. Just read through comments here or around this conversation in general. Lots of women describe men they do NOT know as "NPCS', emotionless, uninteresting, etc simply by what they perceive without knowing them. Personally I've given up on legitimately "getting to know a woman" on a personal level ever since middle school. Things seemingly just changed. Everything …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 02:13 AM
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I think whats more surprising to me is the admittance of such vast indifference. It comes off as incredibly cold to say the least. That being said I found this interesting: Many women after work are just looking to chillout in front of the TV with a dinner, and then on weekends meet up with their friends and pursue hobbies. Sounds like normal people stuff. None of this façade about a myriad of self improvement activities, being "interesting". No just typical I go to work, come home, chill and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:41 AM
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Sure thats one way to live out the later years of your life sure. I'm not sure whats the problem here. He's figured how he wants to interact with women in his life. How is this different from someone saying they decide to be celibate for life and only engage in hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:03 AM
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Then some people turn around to say “men and women are more alike than different don’t ya know?” To retort the often held opinion the women choose morally and men simly choose on looks. Both men and women will make terrible decisions for a person they feel is very attractive, or someone they fantasize having sex with. Essentially the guy is quick to sleep with the whore and the girl is quick to sleep with the chad in a casual context, the obvious similarity between the two being both are convent…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 12:09 AM
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Post a pic and I could tell you exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 12:05 AM
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No sounds like he could literally buy the time of much more attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 12:00 AM
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From a looks perspective tbh no. I mean this in the most literal possible way, most men are repulsed and annoyed by fat women. A Woman with somewhat large breasts (or small breasts), a flat stomach, or mostly slim mid section but a clearly FAT ass is not fat. A fat woman is someone with a bloated midsection and fat everywhere. Guys will still accept a girl with a fat ass but a flat stomach. Realistically no guys like genuinely fa/overweight women (fat everywhere). The fat ass and flat stomach is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:56 PM
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but most women are looking for a little more “adventure” they want someone to want to go out and do things with them and they feel like they won’t get that out of someone who seems really recluse. Which a lot of gamers are. So you're telling me that people with no background in hiking, or camping, or fishing, or taking a trip to name whatever your bullshit generic exotic place a boring girl never had a chance in her life to visit; needs to be a guys "passion" "hobby" or otherwise for him to be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:47 PM
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You and prospective women. Golf, hiking, fishing, Skateboarding, playing guitar, etc. More important than her being able to do it is that you're passionate about it and busy doing it often. Women love to have to chase you a bit. Yes men need to arbitrarily value things that have no relevance in their life but nonetheless take an incredible amount of skill to cultivate simply to impress a woman. wtf kind off logic is this? What monkey hoops is she jumping through to attract me? Of all the points …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:39 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7914893/ Gender equality and empowerment of all women and girls is one of the 17 goals of the UN 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, which comprises 169 targets in a universal plan of action for people, planet, and prosperity [1]. The UN Secretary-General António Guterres has consistently focused on the long-standing demand by women for gender equality, in what he argues to be “the unfinished business of our time” [2]. It's a nuanced topic but mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:34 PM
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Welfare probably includes not only the literal checks but also the affirmative action programs and gender focused initiatives in "male dominated" fields and or studies in college which have female quotas. Just anecdotal but in my field of work on an employee level it is quite irritating when guys see women boosted to higher opportunities and such simply because they have to meet quotas. It's especially annoying when your supervisors straight up tell you thats why it's happening and the person re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:20 PM
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This honestly needs t be regurgitated ad naseum until they get it through thier skulls. This false narrative that a majority of guys are fat, lazy, unmotivated and deeply flawed is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:13 PM
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Women are literally allergic to this obvious logic. Being chubby is a deliberate choice and for most people a dietary problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:02 PM
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Would you use this same logic if guy complained that promiscuous women were leaving him every time after he purchased them an expensive bag? You probably wouldnt be this sarcastic, be pretty straight forward and say "yeah you should probably stop buying them shit and expecting a relationship".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:44 PM
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How did you go from agreeing with the statement to just being in complete denial after the implication of "sharing"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:24 PM
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I've spoken with a lot of women about sex. Never once have they compared partners. We will talk about all the details, no comparisons, and lots of advice. Isn't this a contradiction. Just because you aren't overtly rating the experiences (which I highly doubt) doesnt mean that in nature this isn't a straight up a comparison being made. Example: Girl 1: "My guy ate me out last weekend" , Girl 2: "we tried butt stuff for the first time" Girl 3: "We just did missionary again after some netflix." Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:16 PM
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Saying you find it gross to get body counts is literally just a passive way of dissuading men to it. You literally are your own example you’re looking for. What did you expect it to look like? As an aside this anecdote also stimulated over 200 responses so there’s that….
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 09:14 PM
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It seems you're trying to tackle more than a few things with your data sets to try to disprove everything all at once, which seems incredibly flawed by nature as im sure you dont have enough data present to do so in a single post. All your data doesnt make a distinction between heterosexual and non-heterosexual individuals for instance, which would likely have a significant impact on the data. Also the downward trend for chad (80th vs 95th percentile) has maintained itself to be 3-5 times higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:54 AM
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No, not if you vehemently advocate for women being treated as equals. This is one of the core visages of traditional courting. If a woman isn't willing to reciprocate in a traditional manner, she shouldn't be afforded to be provided for by any man in any context. You're either independent or you're not. Traditional double-standards as we so like to describe them as were simply a social contract and expectations with mutual incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:47 PM
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Not getting laid or having a girlfriend isn't suffering. Gonna be honest with you I'm just gonna stop here and call it a day. It's getting late where I am at and this is so disingenious. Not once did I imply or state that the modern epidemic was "not getting laid". To minimize loneliness which is social isolation is incredibly dangerous and just speaks to your level of maturity. A literal epidemic acknowledged by world leaders which is negatively impacting everyone from the youth to the eldest o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:16 PM
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Its not particularly vague. I am directly stating to looksmax and explain how with a few sentences of detail for each one. Outside of looksmaxxing the average man should improve his mental and spiritual well-being as-well. The average woman failing to meet traditional expectations is largely in part due to mens failures to be men but you can also blame the government lol. Women and men alike should criticize lazy and incompetent men who bitch moan about not being able to get girls and do nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:30 PM
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Im saying quite directly that you're full of shit and have a ridiculous double standard in which you place a moral and unreasonable responsibility on men to arbitrarily become "better". You don't even quantify these improvements, you only vaugely point to looksmaxxing as your method for improvement which by and large is irrelevant to the type of relationship you advocate for. Traditional monogamous relationships werent built off the back of very muscular, ambitious and attractive men of yester y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:29 PM
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Not once did I say that men should improve themselves in order to have casual sex or relationships You did directly imply that though by saying the average man is so pathetically unattractive that thier complaints for sexlessness or relationships is warranted. That is the entire premise of your argument. You even reiterate as much: If you are going to bitch-moan about not getting women then you should at-least make sure you are doing everything in your power to attract them Its not easy but noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:17 PM
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The interesting thing here is that you take the simple stance that it's guys responsibility to simultaneously take it upon themselves to become what women want, WHILE ALSO being completely complicit in the fact that they shouldnt seek reciprocity in traditional expectations. This is essentially the core argument of the looksmax red pill, but if you fix half of these you are already much better than the average man. Its not easy but nothing worth having is easy in this life. You should be THANKFU…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:57 AM
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Lots of people really jumping on the put out early bit. Tbh it’s not necessary, but if you contrast her usual dating habits and the new ones she tried and literally took out the sex; you’d think she was never trying to get into a relationship ever. Say what you want about not putting out, there is zero excuse for intentionally going on a date and purposely acting hard to get to the point you’re more or less being incredibly cold, possibly apathetic and uninterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:04 AM
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You can’t make this shit up. Literally just be a decent human being. No needing to be above average. No needing to be interesting, no needing to be in your physical prime, guy didn’t hyper analyze your “personality “. Just be nice haha, and women wonder why guys always say it’s easy. Glad you like it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:56 AM
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I don’t recall a scenario where anyone presumably granted an “advantage “ was also subservient. Genetic advantages obviously wouldn’t be considered in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:26 PM
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I've replied to some comments here and imma be honest reading some of these testimonials seems fanciful at best and I disdain the lack of context. Most women in social groups you will warm approach aren't going to ask you to suck your cock, start voraciously licking their lips waiting for you to just grab her by her fucking throat or the like. In every instance where I've attempted (or had the opportunity to attempt) a warm approach it's pretty tame up until the point of obvious escalation. As I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:13 PM
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They're adults just like everyone else. Why do you insist that people are more mature than they really are? Thats why the last guy gave you the response he did, this seems like online theory crafting and conjecture at best. Gross inexperience or narrow world view at worst. For god sake I know adults well into their 50's and 60's who are incredibly petty and immature. This isn't an uncommon thing. Theres more to social circles than fairness and common decency. Every group is different, in group b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:54 PM
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This is not ubiquitously true. In many social circles, even well into peoples 30's people do gossip. Age does not necessarily equate to maturity and a lot of the nuance in this conversation is lost when people are unwilling to admit that a majority of people are not mature, level headed people who do not let their impulses or biases get the best of them. At best you're likely to encounter 4/10 actually very level headed even keel mature adults. Many peoples moral compass and world view is center…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:45 PM
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Come to terms with the fact most women will have extremely high expectations of any guy who tries to offer this to them. The alternatives in which she has far more autonomy is typically more appealing to most modern women. The incredibly efficient capitalist structure of our society has made it such that an average man will have to rise above and reach an incredible economic peak (well into 6 figures) if he wants to replicate that traditional lifestyle. "Honor and Duty" have been replaced with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:16 PM
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"Why is everyone in a relationship my age but not me?" . "Why dont girls ever like me when i talk to them?" "Why is it so hard to maintain a job?" "Why am i 25 years old nad have never kissed a girl, let alone, made friends with a woman in my entire life?" "Why dont i have any friends?" You often hear men on the mild autism spectrum make statements like this. I understand you feel like a personal spokesperson for this because you suffer from it yourself but just be aware this is not a "autistic"…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:41 PM
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You implied any reservations to the genuineness of those disagreements is flatly erroneous. Again which is simply false. You can observe this on Reddit, podcasts or in any long form discourse. Women can and have conveniently skirted questions or reserved honest opinions on the subject matter to avoid confrontation. Why is that such a crazy thing for anyone to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:36 PM
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It isn’t flatly wrong though. https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/156226/1/882555200.pdf Yes women tend to egregiously “lie” less in some sense because it may not be advantageous to them in certain (or many applicable) individual circumstances. However in the case of if it benefits the group as a whole, a lie (such as a white lie) could be seen as a morally justified decision and in those cases women will lie more because it benefits the group. These are generalist differences between men an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:23 PM
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The fuck do you want statistics on how truthful women are about their proclivities? Your opinion on the matter hasn’t been proven by you anymore than mine has for me. I simply made an assertion on what I believe to be true. It would seem it isn’t the first time you’ve seen similar opinions to suggest women in general are dishonest. Oh well. Why should I care what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:47 PM
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It's really weird you're saying that in response to a post saying that most women exist in a middle ground. No they don't, they usually take the path of plausible deniability if not straight denial. If anything they jump to conclusions no one came to in particular to regard mens objectives when approaching or the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:46 PM
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Nice guys aren't lazy, they have just deduced there is no reason going above and beyond to "better themselves" for women who have no real interest in reciprocating their values and intended lifestyles for the average middle class individual. Much of modern dating culture is centered around rampant consumerism and a fantasy of accumulating quick wealth. This is essentially the antithesis to a traditional lifestyle, which is far less individualistic. A breakdown (or massive overhaul) of the family…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:36 PM
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It’s only ever really focused on by men to drive home the point that women will go out of their way to make arguments for why women should be accepted at any size. Though I suppose the most egregious of these recommendations is the skinny dude with the fat chick. It’s practically oxymoronic because you never see shaming when the genders are reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:11 PM
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Well you answered my question and the answer was basically no. Just because you’re DTF doesn’t mean you’re a looks match. Looks match meaning, if you were out in public with that person would you be embarrassed to be standing next to them or would shame be implicated based off of physical appearance? Two fit people are looks matched. Two obese people are looks matched, etc you get the gist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:17 PM
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The fact you entertained it to begin with is something you should reflect on. Not really saying the guy wasn’t irresponsible or an asshole but allowing someone to convince you that you need to “share someone high value” and expecting anything that remotely reflects a modicum of humility, respect or the like is at the very least hopelessly optimistic at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:45 AM
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Why are a majority of your points about children when the concept of going dutch (50/50) is in context to dating? You assume things have even gotten beyond the first date. But I'll humor you, if you feel women are entitled to a free meal from a man, then I suppose all of these conclusions and obligations you bring up would assume that once a man has taken a woman out on a date shes out of the market. That means access to sex as well whenever he wants and I assume this because again, you default …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 10:11 AM
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You haven’t said anything in good faith and you asked me to regurgitate a point that was reasonably explained by me already. The thread is about caricatures and unreasonable descriptions of the “alpha “ from this woman’s perspective. She feels as though Alphas or simply put masculine men women go after are vilified by guys who can’t measure up. My counter was that she made a caricature herself and hardly makes a good point when her version is simply a romanticized version of the Alpha. Literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:59 AM
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There’s women who swipe simply out of sheer pleasure of getting attention or being “bored”. Do you find that pathetic? It isn’t really uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:46 AM
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How is a healthy in shape guy (not incredibly muscular, maybe even relatively skinny) a looks match for an obese woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:44 AM
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You’ve lost the point of the entire discussion if you simply want to reinforce someone’s prerogatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:40 AM
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What does it matter if you think it’s attainable, that wasn’t even the subject matter? It’s a caricature of the ideal date. Fills up space, commands a room by just being them, somehow “eye contact” is now a personality trait, being “physically fit” is a personality trait. Read between the lines and stop jerking yourself off. They created a caricature themselves they preferred because they felt the typical “alpha “ trope wasn’t romantic enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:09 AM
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That is not what this person said, don’t downplay the fantasy this person fabricated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:00 AM
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I think it depends. The better proportionality that weight is distributed (more ass and thigh than gut and or jowls) the more likely he is to be like “she’s thicc I’ll give it a shot”. In my personal experience I’ve had heavier set women approach. Usually I do decline though because it’s simply such a stark contrast to what I am willing to do. She’s not “thicc”, she’s quite frankly let herself go a lot of the time. The gut is apparent, the double chin maybe even and I don’t think that’s acceptab…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:40 PM
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Guys in general from my experience to engage with meaningful friendships as lasting memories. Life goes on, people have to move maybe for family, work, life ambitions,etc. I may depart from a group but keeping in contact every now and then will always feel like we never missed a beat. Often times that’s what it’s like. Just recently a friend of mine from years ago visited Japan with his family. We picked up like I never left, and we caught up on things we’d experienced while apart. Guys friendsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:24 PM
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I don’t think she’s a sociopath, I think she simply is one of those cases of a young person who chronically makes terrible fucking choices and gets themselves into some shit. She’s a fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:07 PM
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I see what you're saying though I will say this. Often times I see this perspective brought up in particular what happens when you need advice from someone who knows and loves you more than most people in this world? .... What happens when you’re old, sick and dying and you have nothing to show This existential fear that you presumably went through your entire life never forming new relationships with people you care about etc. I think it's important to develop these relationships but I think OP…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:48 PM
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Forrest and apologizes. I'm not sure how you could miss that since it is a central plot point of the movie. This is such a cop out. She was genuinely a PoS. She ran away from him at every turn she could and even had the audacity to seek him out only to leave him for years again thereafter. That being said it wasnt just about her being able to say sorry, but about broken people being able to find love and meaning in life. Despite all that chasing he had to do and the child she just decided to dro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:09 PM
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Well its even worse than that because if you read even further in the scenario they also include physique. You combine everything and essentially what this person is saying is that they feel every man should be the type of guy who is physically imposing, can project his voice, get everyone in a room to notice them, while also being sophisticated enough to hold an interesting conversation with them WHILE also fitting their bill. It's a caricature of prince charming. To say falling short of this, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:47 PM
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Most guys probably wouldn’t mind because they are more concerned about doing whatever it takes to get on her good side so they can sleep with her. What’s $60-100 if I smash? Sure it’s that simple, but that wasn’t the point of why I contended you on it. Why do you insist on conflating things like paying for a date with “personality “? How is what anything you said “personality “? It’s not a personality trait to pay for women, it’s a personal choice , often times motivated by world view, upbringin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:28 PM
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It implies both but honestly why does this even have to be a thing all men must do? It’s a personality flaw if he doesn’t want to pay for your meal? The problem with your scenario is that you try to pretty it up by pretending as if you aren’t expecting the ideal traditional norms from the ideal traditional guy. That’s not a critique on a man’s personality that’s a critique on who he is fundamentally as a man in 2023. Everything from his physicality to his actual personality, appearance, manneris…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:13 PM
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Not sure why you made another thread in an attempt to find validation. The point remains you're a hypocrite. You expect men to be YOUR ideal sophisticated ladies man aficionado, who is conveniently very much in shape; but then tried to act as if this isn't the same caricature you criticized in that very thread. How is this a male personality issue? Personalities are a wide gamut of things, you can appreciate people without them being an ideal, you can yes date them even. Honestly I'd take it a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:54 PM
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Lets not kid ourselves. The description isn't talking about a mild mannered individual you would find walking down the street. It's talking about a physically imposing person, who is probably conventionally attractive, with a degree of sophistication and status. It's simply how the encounter is described, just done in a general enough manner which you might think it's a malleable person but really it's not. ​ Some key give aways that not everyone will just "pull off" by having a good personality…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:50 AM
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The point of the comparison was not to make an apples to apples translation. It's to demonstrate that OP created a caricature that again isnt going to be indicative of most people. People who are immature don't get into relationships or have pleasant dates? People who might have a short temper dont have redeemable qualities? People who aren't outgoing people beaming with charisma aren't worth engaging with on a date? ​ so most men could meet this Thats an oversimplification. Most men probably wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:30 AM
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The guy they go on a date with who they fall head over heels for - Sits straight and takes up space but has a calm and still etiquette at the dinner table. Is expressive and smiles, speaks with clarity, charisma and captivating confidence. Is funny, but not an immature idiot. Asks questions and pays attention. Treats waiting staff with respect but commands attention and respect back just by the way he is, with firm eye contact. Goes to pay the bill first but is thankful when you offer to split i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:02 AM
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The context of this as far I am aware of is from the American lens and it’s history. Point me to somewhere in this thread that would indicate otherwise and perhaps I’ll consider perspectives which include foreign domestic policy abroad. I never questioned women wanting “rights”, I don’t even have a deep frame of reference in which to appropriately judge if women were denied rights abroad. I questioned the origins of that in the United States in particular and the extent to which people were cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:26 AM
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Womens suffrage (and by extension feminism in this regard) originated as a movement for white women, by white women. Who by the way have been the most privileged class of Americans historically in the US only second to the white male. This still holds true in many respects as well. That alone makes the movement suspect as fuck, why did white women even need the right to vote? It's a pretty complicated social "issue" (if you really even call it that in comparison to so many other things) that see…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:50 AM
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And people of yesteryear were content with their lives as well. Society and expectations have changed. A woman 80 years ago on the whole wasn’t expected to be educated or work. You weren’t expected to even financially support yourself. You may not prefer that but I’m sure the woman then did. I’m sure they appreciated not being expected to move out the house, not being expected to pay their own bills, having a father in their lives who made it his mission to find his daughter a suitable husband, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:51 PM
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The vast majority of women in this thread (and the men who agree with them) are delusional. What’s the point of romanticizing a time where men in the whole did many of the things you guys do not like or might haphazardly criticize men do today? The average man in the 50s held much more “misogynistic “ views, probably drank more In leisure, smoked significantly more, was less educated and cared about mental health and a variety of social issues you care for less. The more I read comments the more…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:44 PM
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Good grades don’t really mean anything lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:37 PM
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Most relationships start off with sex I’m the modern day. It’s very rare that any couple isn’t trying to be “sexually compatible “. Guys who are in this position are ok with it because what’s the downside to having sex on the first or second date? You aren’t in a relationship after a date or two either btw. It’s usually established by being in a sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:34 PM
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Yeah the examples you gave definitely aren’t sexy (training sports attire) and are meant to be cut the way they are for freedom of motion. Some women are voluptuous so perhaps they have a thing for sweaty athletic women whose ass hang out in athletic attire. Idk. But generally that’s not even what most guys mean when they have gripes with the clothing. It was more along the line of what I said originally. Not every girl is an overt flirt, some are totally fine being very friendly and being the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:31 PM
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Once as a child, we loved playing Pokémon cards and marbles and riding our scooters or playing soccer. She moved two years later. I was in 5th grade at the time. Never had a platonic female “friend “ since. They were always either acquaintances or semi interested but moves never were made. In fact one girl straight up asked me out, one of the prettiest girls in our class from Jamaica. At first I thought she was pulling my leg cause her best friend was next to her. But she was incredibly sincere …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:00 PM
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Are you a man because you imply as much in what you say you wear but your tone doesnt come off as such? Guys talk about revealing clothing in most cases where the clothing being worn is done in terrible taste. A dress that is practically see through and or showing skin in an “interesting “ place (her bare ass for instance), might be in poor taste. But sure let’s give this make believe lady that the dress for the fancy occasion IS appropriate. Sure a high class event may require something like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:50 PM
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Ok so a few things everything you listed was an average guy. I’d imagine this guy you described COULD find a relationship of some sort even if a long distance one. Secondly if he can’t then perhaps he struggles exceptionally in one area that is stunting them from interaction with women. Most likely being shy or giving off signals of disinterest. Worst case scenario they are unkept and their hygiene is bad but if that’s you then you’d immediately know you were lacking. Lastly I think you jump to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:14 PM
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Depends on what the guy wants. What you said doesn’t contradict what I said, what you said simply presumes every man wants a modest women, which isn’t the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:56 AM
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I think most people who look for a stable long term relationship generally weigh destructive behaviors against good ones, and tend to not change people who have behaviors that they legitimately feel would undermine the success of their relationship. Of course there are people who still try but I don’t think that’s necessarily most.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:18 AM
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The boundary is what you are willing to tolerate before you take action. The expectation in the context of the relationship is what you perceive to be acceptable or unacceptable behavior and the consequences for those actions. The idea that a boundary you set (what your willing to tolerate until you take action) is only applicable to what happens directly to your body or your physical space is preposterous and it’s what you specifically said. You’re trying to get incredibly specific with your us…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:11 AM
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Yes but honestly I don’t even think this is strictly a redpill thing. In fact most people adopt this train of thought it’s simply that there can be mental gymnastics at play which may obfuscate their intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:18 AM
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No I meant what I said which was boundaries. For example if your partner like to flirt with her male friends but insists it isn’t meaningful and just banter, you can say that you aren’t ok with that and will leave the relationship if she continues to do so. That’s a boundary. Another one I’ve seen in my life, a wife tells her husband that he is too friendly with the new single women who join the congregation. That engaging with her playful advances is inappropriate and hurtful to her, that she f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:17 AM
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Read the article and It seems the conclusion that was made was that if you don’t think you’re going to find a date offline, chances are you won’t find one, or at the very least will not be satisfied with the results on tinder either. Also that older people tend to have better results.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:09 AM
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Yes in the sense that if someone’s promiscuous behavior is a red flag or deal breaker for you, then you shouldn’t seek to change them. It’s better you move on or avoid developing a deeper relationship altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:52 AM
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You can set boundaries on things that are not your body or space. You can set boundaries on things that may affect your stability, your mental well being, the well being of the group of you have authority and responsibility for others etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:50 AM
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It’s depends. Physical attraction is a thing and it’s probably the primary basis for a majority of relationships. There’s also degrees of dressing “sexy”. It isn’t inherently wrong to want to dress well, but perhaps the type of attire is a bit adventurous and frequently so. When you dress this way what kind of attention are your garnering? Are you being approached more often by people when you dress this way as opposed dressing less provocatively? Is dressing provocatively improving your self es…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:11 PM
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But your solution to your conclusions are practically the same as the people you question. Expressing your concerns IS what having a problem with a particular behavior is. Whether or not you choose to help them work through it or form an ultimatum doesn’t change the fact that you expressed a concern. I think someone who expresses the concern and isn’t simply leaving full stop wants the relationship to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:55 PM
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I legit do not understand why someone would go out of their way to be person 2. That person just seems like an asshole or female version of a douchebag.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:27 PM
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No, anti-homeless laws are explicitly targeting those who are likely to be of a lower economic background. Thats why the public tends to not like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:09 AM
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Masturbation is not sexual intercourse. Playing with yourself is not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:54 AM
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None of those are applicable in the US. Masturbation =/= sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:48 AM
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From a guys perspective I think OLD provides an efficient method to filter people while also sifting through a bevy of matches. In short a picture is worth a thousand words. On the whole I think it's probably a net negative in terms of society forming relationships. It just further erodes how we naturally socialize and it's having a profound impact on the mental health of many people. OLD is merely an extension of what social media has done to us over these recent decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:55 AM
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What have you presented to back up your opinion? Nothing. In fact most people engaged in this discussion don’t have anything other than anecdotal evidence. Studies can’t definitely determine this either as extrapolating this on the whole is far too broad. We’re merely acknowledging the validity of our claims based on personal life experience. Some people on Reddit are simply more measured than others. Your opinion isn’t in my estimation because it’s simply far too definitive with nothing of sign…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:08 AM
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You’re intentionally being disingenuous and conflating things just to fit your narrative though. Outcomes do not define expectations. There are plenty examples of overweight men or women not exactly looks matched. Their existence doesn’t speak to the expectations, merely that outcomes vary due to circumstances of each individual. Can a man find a relationship irrespective of skewed expectations of male fitness? Yes. Is male fitness skewed? Also yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:47 AM
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I’m going to preface this by saying that I’m not going to entertain this insistence on pontificating and forcing the acknowledgment of the modern woman’s plight with beauty standards. It’s done as common practice at this point for a majority of woman, as a reference point and whether knowingly or unknowingly consistently used as a means to minimize the male perspective which is rarely ever discussed in genuine debate. I will not humor you here. How you feel about how a man empathizes (or should …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:05 AM
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How have body standards increased for women? You see this almost no where in the modern day. It’s in fact usually quite the opposite and it goes far beyond a “few hashtags “. Major companies, the military, movie studios, and many other forms of media have increasingly been accepting of larger female frames. The standard of beauty and even what’s considered “healthy “ for women has most definitely expanded. Whereas for men it’s largely the same Roman standard (large muscular frame, broad shoulder…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:39 PM
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I noticed a distinct difference when I stilled lived in the US and when I moved to Japan. I’m the US my lean and small muscular frame is considered often times to be anemic. Coworkers, friends and even family would say that I am too skinny. The only exception to this was when I was actively running track and had my muscles defined even more. However whenever they suggested I change anything it would be to eat more and get bigger muscles. I’m Japan…. I already have a good body lol. Ngl it’s kinda…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:55 PM
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No he’s just calling out a false equivalency. The standards for both men and women have skewed but not in the same direction. It’s more common for men to be shamed for their natural body types of you looked at social media and there’s been an overt trend to support women letting themselves go and still be considered beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:25 PM
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(FYI I am aware of the implications and the general discourse around it I’m making) Lots of jokes have truth in them. The hot-crazy matrix is a joke but it isn’t completely satire. There is definitely truth to the more attractive a woman is the more likely she is to have led a life that would lead her to act more disconnected from “reality “. Basically a princess complex. Compare that to this and you’d think women were delusional and deserving of all of their relationship woes. Case in point why…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:26 AM
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You're not matching anyones energy. I challenged your points and you responded by deflecting and acting too cool for school lol. Your points are absurd and only match your fictitious world view. I read through the entire thread and you're mostly insufferable. You even admitted to talking about things you didn't know simply for the sake of trying to prove your own point (im referring to your suggestion made to meet people outside for public CS events). You simply have a bunch of assumptions and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:09 AM
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You seem to be hell bent on deflecting any sort of accountability for the positions you hold. You could at least defend you points with a modicum of self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:53 AM
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.... This is an infantile analogy that has nothing to do with the topic nor is it accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:49 AM
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Your entire OP implies as such though. That is the entire premise of this thread, that guys who can't make friends cannot find partners. Thats is your LITERAL ASSERTION! Is this not the title? Before you can get a partner, you need good friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:29 AM
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You've worked to improve your personality and confidence, and become more successful that way. Do you lack reading comprehension? Seriously what is wrong with you? List the things in order for starters before creating your own narrative. But in my 30s I also earn $300k a year (as opposed to $50k a year in my 20s) have spent more time in the gym lifting & running am way more redpill in dating (push early for sex, agree and amplify when flirting, etc.) So..... the "personality and confidence" came…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:25 AM
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Why does he need to be aware of that? Why does how you feel about his relationship matter? Why do women do this? If she love him she loves him what the hell?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:16 AM
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I’d say fundamentally it’s a matter of perspective. Similarly to how women more or less do t value they can easily get casual sex. Most men don’t particularly value that they are able bodied enough to essentially be a work horse. Men want to be appreciated for their efforts , woman want to be just more than a hole. It’s more complicated than just what our bodies allow us to do especially in modern times where the physicality of- a man is of much lesser importance on the day to day. Women can pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:49 AM
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My point in asking is because as you eluded to, the perception you seem to be addressing IS a misogynistic one. The irony in doing so in the way you presented it is that men should take solace that they aren’t women because of the things that make women who they are. I don’t think a man not wanting to be a woman makes him misogynistic, but being like “wow I’m glad I’m not a woman because I’d hate to be that weak” probably would be perceived misogynistic. Anyway that aside I think your core argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:30 AM
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I wouldn’t really say the military or being a “twink ” are comparable to what would be typical sex work. There’s definitely nuance in those comparisons enough so that I’d say (aside from Being a twink) there are probably advantages and disadvantages which are more favorable depending who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:58 AM
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So be glad that you aren’t a woman? Isn’t that just misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:43 AM
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Yes I am around many married people at times. Quite a few I work with. Some of the older people will go out of thier way to suggest it in a healthy manner. Sometimes if conversation comes up they will talk about it's benefits. Other times peope advise against it, or give cautionary tales. There is no one shoe fits all but my point was never that people who support marraige are most often overt evangelicals for it. No simply when given the opportunity to speak on it, if they support it and find t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:22 AM
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You’re picking straws at this point, advocating it or recommending it IS selling it. This is why I questioned your frame of reference because fundamentally it makes no sense. People who enjoy things often “sell” ( a colloquialism for recommendations/advocacy) them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:13 AM
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So who sells marriage then if it isn’t the people who are happily married?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:10 AM
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I hope you recover soon im sorry if I added any stress. It is disheartening to hear you have unfortunately read through a bunch of emotional baggage. I also agree that yeah many people do hold on to a lot of insecurities and trauma from thier formative years. The trope does ring true certainly. On the note of lying. Were you dishonest to your partner if you omitted how many past partners you've been with in the last decade? It depends if it's relevant. In most situations I doubt it's even approp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:57 AM
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The context is a metric buttload of men forming an echo chamber, then using pseudoscience to convince a lot of naive people (both male and female) that women should be shamed for having sex It isn't pseudoscience strictly, yeah sometimes people just plug in stats, but honestly it's men from all over the world talking to each other online and offline. Brothers, friends, uncles, fathers, etc sharing personal stories and witnessing real time what works and what doesnt. The shame is very consistent …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:37 AM
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I do, but I also think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. How many guys do you realistically think genuinely believe most women have had NO sexual experiences by thier early to mid twenties? It's 2023... you'd be a moron to hold it against any woman for having prior sexual experience. Essentially it's virtually impossible. Context is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:06 AM
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Then find a new circle? In fact this is really odd because now if I'm reading this correctly you're trying to state women have a difficult time finding suitable partners due to small social circles? Do you really believe that is the case? Yea sure in more traditional social circles guys will probably be put extremely off by any sort of casual sexual history. But you could expand your circle, you could branch out and meet new people. You arent beholden to a small town or something. All men aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:00 AM
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But she did do it to herself. If you didnt actually consider sex transactional, and didn't believe having casual sex was inherently devaluing women, why would you jump to assuming men think you are a "Spunkbag"? This makes no sense. The man didn't diminish the woman here, the woman equated her own value directly in how she gave access to her pussy. She said that. What kind of mental gymnastics....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:40 AM
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I think you're confusing conversations between friends and arguments on PPD. Perhaps this is just a fundamental difference of opinion in how people converse offline or something. It isn't necessarily the case that people default to not advocating for something if they strongly believe in it. Whether they choose to engage or not really depends on if they feel the person is worth engaging with. But I digress, I agree with your point on marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:31 AM
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Whats too black and white?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:27 AM
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Happily married men don’t talk about how good their marriages are to the bachelors so you don’t feel bad lmao This is what was said full stop. This is false in my opinion which is why I addressed her. Many older men and women who are proponents of marriage WILL advocate young people to get married. If they can’t get married/have kids, what good would it bring to try to make them do it anyway? Because the implication is outside of special circumstances (medical reasons really) there are a bunch o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:24 AM
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I didn't excuse it, I intentionally stated there was no reason to blatantly address it as it wasn't the subject. The subject is if sex is a commodity. If you engage freely in casual sex the implication is you do not view sex as a commodity but as a mutual activity. Whats the confusion? Why should I be addressing the double standard, what necessitates it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:18 AM
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It's not insensitive though. It's completely reasonable to have amicable discussion about the nuances of marriage. The benefits and negatives and all associated things. I said it was extreme the way you framed it because you seem to be under the implication that some ones will is being stripped, thier hand is being forced or otherwise. No one is entitled to conflict free existence. If someone in the free world has a problem or point of contention or even simply would just rather question your be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:15 AM
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That seems extreme and nothing about marriage, especially in the context of modern dating standards and social norms would implicitly indicate it's the worlds best kept secret. If a majority of both men and women advocate for not only putting off marriage but even consider avoiding it altogether, that would logically indicate that the potential upsides do not outweigh the risks or pitfalls general associated. It has nothing to do with preference. Most people I know regret thier marriages, get di…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:10 AM
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I'm just calling it for what it is. Im not stating men are above reproach. If casual sex is JUST sex to you, then being named called silly things over something you had no greater expectations or outcomes for shouldnt bother you. If sex is just sex why would some idiot incorrectly labelling you a "whore" matter? It only matters in this context because YOU DO expect a relationship after having sex at some point. If you didnt expect a relationship the insult would hold no real weight. The insult i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:59 AM
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I look through these threads and you’re definitely cherry picking for the very few who do. Most times this sort of thing is mentioned men will call out the hypocrisy women seem to have with complaining about not getting committed to after engaging with multiple partners. Rarely are men blatantly calling women whores, rather they are legitimately questioning what are your true intrinsic motivations for engaging in those relationships to begin with. Let me spell it out for you since you seem incre…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:52 AM
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I’m not encouraging anything I’m going down the train of thought to keep it consistent. You’re already at the end presuming things. The conversation started off at she’s already engaging in casual sex but is offended by being called a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:46 AM
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Unless you tell the world , or are very known for getting around casually within your social circle why would anyone know of your casual dating history? Also I doubt many men would consider a few causal partners here and there "whore" behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:08 AM
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Your assumptions are the following: They are pleasant, funny, charming, and usually very generous in one way or another It could be all of those things, it could be some or even just one. But to unilaterally assume they tick all these boxes literally makes relationships a fairly tale fantasy. You got the girl (sex) because you were essentially the perfect guy. You know what a 4 for 4 is right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:03 AM
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This is a contradiction. Engaging in casual sex isnt abuse. It's an activity you willingly participated in with another. So which is it, is sex a commodity to be traded for fair value or is it an activity you willingly engage in without expectation of reciprocity/equivalent value?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:00 AM
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That absolutely makes no sense at all. There are so many examples in life where people implore others to follow a career path, or become healthier or whatever because it enhances thier life. If marriage as so good, why would people keep it a secret? L take.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:58 AM
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You are jumping to so many conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:49 AM
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But why would that bother you if you're having casual sex with no expectations? A man and a woman who engage in casual sex are both promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:47 AM
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Again they don't need to necessarily be legislated to mandate relationships. At the very least though they don't have to make the men be the boogey men. Otherwise why shouldnt men hold them in contempt in similar fashion? If women have no moral obligation to resist not only being apathetic but completely disingenious and intentionally inflammatory; why should anyone listen to thier complains about injustice done to them from men who might "hate" them? Why shouldnt someone you overly treat with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:14 AM
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It is just so crazy to me how this argument women think holds water at all. Imagine if ALL men had the option between three types of women because there was an abundance of women on dating apps: The ordinary and very plain looking girl, some who are occasionally above average, has a job, generally normal person The adventurous girl who doesnt want commitment, isnt looking for your money and varies between plain and good looking. Might skew a bit on the side of monetarily unstable, definitely not…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:46 AM
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No one is enforcing you to fix anyone. But what people are imploring you to do is not oversimply everything and then blame it on dumb shit on "your personality probably sucks", shit like that matters. Being obtuse and being a spiteful ass isnt really helping. How can women simultaneously want men to be empathetic to thier needs, the unfair treatments placed against them, etc; yet deride men every chance they get and act like life is handed to them on a silver platter? Obviously there are things …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:20 AM
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Yes but its no better Nah you can't be serious. You cannot default to this position it's a loss 10/10. Either stop falling for the same crap or get shit on. Thats the uncomfortable truth, despite what you want to keep convincing yourself IT IS BETTER to not just keep seeking to be swept up in lies by a good sweet talker
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:49 PM
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You’re missing the point. Your response is essentially still, “well they need to get over it and figure it out”. That doesn’t address the problem that, presumably you as a woman is unironically putting sex on this pedestal and disassociating it don’t everything else. To put it simply a lack of a healthy sex life often times is the manifestation of a lack of all those other things, relationships, love, intimacy, etc. This guy made some good points that make focusing on the sex, or putting it in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:57 PM
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They also love to conveniently leave out the fact that older men trick a lot. And also lots of girls essentially engaged in socially acceptable prostitution. Going on dates where the guy pays and entertains you and then you give him sex is prostitution more or less. Even if it takes a dozen dates to get there. I love how they always like to frame it as only nice well adjusted people get into relationships. Everyone knows that older men main attraction is what they have to offer (IE resources).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:17 AM
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The survivorship bias is strong. Married people who lucked out really shouldnt hold such strong opinions imho. Sincerely a single guy with multiple real world experiences with a vast pool of "dating" experiences with different women from different counties. Ranging from single innocent unsure girls, to women cheating on thier husbands. You make everything seem so simple. If you think this shit is simple, you're probably the simple one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:52 AM
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I dont disagree that it's definitely in bad taste to just put someone in a box based off and treat them poorly or act crass due to thier activities or looks. 1000% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:45 AM
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Interesting, so question then why does it appear to be that we are equating "skinny" (not overweight) women on the same level of aesthetic appeal as "fit" men? Just because you're not overweight as a woman or even "skinny" doesnt mean you're like the equivalent of the preferred male physique. I do think theres sort of levels to this. If the ideal male physique is well built, muscular volume, v-taper; then the clear equivalent is large breasts and a large ass. Both of these are the typical aesthe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:23 AM
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admit what, that some women are putting feelers out there to imply they have to be overweight to not be chronically ill?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:17 AM
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Your right men will always assume in the west women are all promiscuous. It’s because even the ones that aren’t (which I think is the silent majority) defend it as if they’re defending the right to vote. Pretty much. Even in one of OP's replies she is defending a life style she doesnt actively live out. Men will either likely be confused by this or genuinely not trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:07 AM
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I think the implication is that men tend to be minimalist, so naturally there is likely to be less clutter. Thus easier to organize or maintain cleanliness. For instance my mom has a hard time throwing away useless things ( a ired trope I even see in media sometimes), whereas me, my dad and all my brothers have no issues literally trashing things and not trying to replace them with more trinkets.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:05 AM
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Re your first point: the guys who did accuse me of lying deffo had a chronically online vibe. I also went out a lot during uni and done a fair few festivals/travelling and am very sex positive but that doesn’t change what my n count is. Isn't this contradictory? Sure technically engaging in any particular activity doesnt automatically make it a fact you are in fact a certain type of person. Just because a guy is a gamer doesnt mean he probably says the N word all the time and is a racist, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:48 AM
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So the few men who stick out to you end up being your frame of reference for literally all men. Thats literally what you just described. But this is reddit so I suppose extremes are common.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:15 AM
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How many men are like this? Propositioning women for sex and being rude AF. How many more men are just like your "friends"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:59 AM
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Every other post (if I'm being extremely conservative) is expressing hatred toward women If only this were true, there would be so many entertaining topics to sift through. I'd genuinely be laughing all the time, or finding some interesting unhinged sentiments at every corner. Alas, most guys in fact do not espouse hatred toward women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:30 AM
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Because it's natrual and allows you to engage in sexual activity the way it's meant to be. Non-scripted and spontaneous. Honestly the only reason why this is THIS much of an issue is because to a significant degree natrual sexual desire/courting is being mediated by the legal system and it's trickling down. When you have so many legal definitions for how a man could potentially SA a woman you remove a lot of the natrual nuance. Some might even say the bar/expectation is being set too high for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:11 AM
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The person was already on shaky ground trying to prove that people, though men in particular need to take an altruistic moral high ground, are indeed obligated to continue friendship because it's the mature thing to do. Then they sealed the nail in the coffin with this. ​ And I don't mean short term I didn't get the girl I fancy pain. I mean long term I lost a friend because once again vagina pain. Why is the assumption that the man is simply looking to get his dick wet? This is why I wish sex w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:33 AM
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Yeah it’s my anecdotal experience. There is a lot of overlap with black culture globally to include Korea most definitely. In truth I’d put China, Korea and Japan on similar levels in terms of openness to relationships with black men. She just has to be open to the culture. If she isn’t she’s likely to believe typical anti black stereotypes or will just be apprehensive . Not necessarily blatant racism but the genuine interest probably isn’t there. You wouldn’t fit “her type”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:07 AM
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It's a female catch all. It's their gotcha moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:15 AM
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Yeah no. Pump and dump has and probably will always be interpreted as a man pumping nut into (insert random chick) and ghosting. It's meant to be a vivid saying for male casual dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:21 AM
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You do understand pump and dump is meant to imply the literal act of ejaculating inside of a woman and then ghosting her right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:01 AM
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Ngl, this is probably one of the most honest takes if it was indeed made by a woman. Dudes do be buying virtual titties.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:53 AM
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No, the women are just horny, want to fuck and be in a relationship really bad (so they are down bad) and just go for it. It's funny how the internet literately writes books to try to convince people men have a magical power over women, but will scoff at any man who says he got hoodwinked by any woman with even a HINT of a red flag. Women arent imbeciles, they know these red flags exist, they just dont care. Crying over spilt milk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:41 AM
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Also as a black man, you can date Asian certain types are definitely more receptive. Personally I've had much more success with Philipino, thai and Chinese women. The whole whiteness perception thing is a thing so its hard for Koreans, Japanese and some chinese.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:39 AM
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Facts
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:37 AM
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Unless you have a dick you aren't pumping and dumping anyone stop lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:37 AM
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So then you intentionally distorted what you were trying to convey. It's not that you hardly encountered women with high body counts who WERE interested in having that much sex, it's that you intentionally preselected to never do anything more with them aside from the casual sex. Thats vastly different. This is part of the problem, the continual glorification of women. What I mean by that is this idea that women view sex and by extension relationships more holistically and in a more ideal manner…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:52 AM
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One of the biggest problems with "equality/feminism" is that it has made us directly compare men and women as if we perceive the world the same way, Yeah no shit. Yet women will consistently not be straight forward or even take a bit of time to self inflect about what causes their attraction. Men will tell them and then they deny it. Here's some reality: women's physical attraction is tied in with lots of other variables. It's status, plain and simple. Looks, then Status, then finances. It's ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:50 AM
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??? You have no idea lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:34 AM
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Of course but idk this is framed oddly. I dont think it's that black and white. The extra money is nice for sure but I dont think most guys would see it that much of a priority. In fact all things considered equal, both pleasant ladies to be around I think most guys would take the prettier girl if they could maintain thier lifestyle even if she earned a bit less. A woman who is a 4 or a 5 making 200k or a woman who is a 7 that makes 60k who do you take? I think guys pick the 7. The extra 130k fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:54 PM
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, I was responding to your apparent belief that a man who is a 5 making 100k being with a woman who is a 5 who makes $100k may be settling It's a possibility yes depending on how you perceive it. Its really just what you're expecting. Yes settling down with someone who makes as much as you can be a path to wealth expansion. But similarly staying single and focusing on your career path while casually dating would also reduce your potential costs exceptionally as you build wealth. You dont need a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:13 PM
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Maybe, I'd definitely say a guy making 60k probably is going to not be living in nice of a place even with roommates, is probably not going to be going out as often, being able to take as many vacations or go to interesting places etc simply due to greater financial constraints. I dont think you need 200-300k to see a notable difference. Its really depends on personal finances/obligations. An extra 40k imo regardless will more often than not result in more financial freedom which will manifest i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:06 PM
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You can, but it's much, much easier to go on dates and also to pick up girls from bars and nightclubs if you live near the club. It's easier to just say "fuck it" and go out on a random weekday, it's easier to get girls to come home when you can say "my place is a 5 min walk", you can set your distance filters much smaller on apps, you see more women around the neighborhood for day game, etc. For sure you can and in that case the closer you are to a locale that popular in a city the higher the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:59 PM
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Even in your example we agree im not sure why you seem to be so upset. I was responding to a comment that seemed to insist men who are "upper middle class" have to "settle" for people within thier socio economic bracket and looks matched. My point was merely to state if you make that much regardless of your gender you simply have abundant choice. Unless you insisted that you would NEVER date anyone who made less than you (which most men dont imho). Whether or not you choose to date someone who m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:46 PM
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In a big metropolitan city like NY or LA if you want to no bullshit be completely independent and extremely inefficient sure. But you can hit those salaries, be completely independent and work outside major cities and in fact that money would go a long way. Also why would your dating options be limited to physically living in those cities near you? Couldnt you live in cheaper areas near by? Im quite sure you could and still experience night life and in fact many people do. Also if you are single…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:26 PM
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How is that 200k worth more? Is money the most important thing in a relationship if you're already a high earner?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:17 PM
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Because it's not going to necessarily improve your lifestyle depending on expectations. That individual isn't obligated to share thier income with you or even split expenses for that matter. Where does this expectation come from that a man and a women NEED to make the same amount so they split everything 50/50 so thier "lives are better"? If you arent hurting financially you have a bevy of living arrangements at your disposal. Quite a few men (or even women perhaps) would be mnore than willing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:06 PM
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I think whats being said is being extremely taken out of context and misattributed to flexing? No man making 100k+ who is single is "Settling" for anything. You have the financial freedom to travel and meet a bunch of people. You literately have the lifestyle and financial freedom to work on yourself and meet more people. You LITERALLY have more options to just fuck around, experiment, meet someone whos lifestlye might be less (from a developing country to include your own btw) and "fall in love…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:14 PM
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Sure they may end up marrying someone they can relate to, but im specifically speaking to the idea that any man in that position is "forced to settle". How were you forced into that position if you literately have more money than you know what to do with. Do you know how excessive the lifestyle of a single man making 100k+ a year is? People like this regularly take trips and do a bunch of funny shit for the hell of it. They have a rather robust field of "options" in life so to speak. I can under…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:10 PM
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Well I'm not even talking about super models or models in general just more sexually attractive or younger looking women, who work normal jobs. Average people who just skew younger. Why would a man making 6 figures NEED to settle and marry an older woman who makes as much as he does, with a robust career? Sure they may choose to marry a colleague or someone in a similar field if thats what they'd PREFER to do. However I legitimately do not understand this logic of a man who is like 30+ making 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:05 PM
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Fact is, irl, odds are a man who’s, let’s say a 5, making 100k, has a PHD, is living his life outside of this online ideological bs, will probably end up with a woman who is a 5 who’s making a similar-ish income within the same social class - I wouldnt necessarily say this is true at all. 100k is ALOT of money for a single man. He wouldn't HAVE to settle down with any of the type of women in the video you saw and he very well go for a much younger woman and flex a potential lifestyle. This 5 wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:19 PM
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This is seemingly focused on sexual desire and in the case of sexual desire I think women have to try a lot less hard to be sexually desirable for men because what a man finds sexually desirable is very surface level and typically easy to stimulate. Whereas for women it's attributed to many secondary things that may not be inherently represented in a mans base form. A lean figure, wide hips, large breasts or butt any combination of these with a youthful appearance and healthy skin is more or les…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:57 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:23 AM
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I’ve never seen or been in a situation where a woman in a satisfying and healthy relationship is needing to drop “hints” that they are in such a relationship. It’s always very clear. What I described is pretty much exclusively women who are recently broken up, single or looking to get out of their current relationship. Its very obvious and they express their intentions for their current relationship. It’s not hard to converse with women in healthy and satisfying relationships. Everyone has probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:09 AM
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So pick me's are perceived as dangerous people with twisted intentions that lash out. As people who tricked you into believing they were ok with a completely platonic relationship, in which they may end up being more generous/willing to engage than necessary? As far as im aware "pick mes" are always used in the context of deriding women with a typically traditional mindset in which they emphasize playing a "role" and catering to a man for his blatant affection. These two things are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:51 AM
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I've been in a friend zone before when I was much younger and yes women do have girl talk A LOT with thier male friends. I even see it in other friend circles I am in but intentionally keep a bit at a distance, I like to keep to myself these days drama sucks I gotta adult and dont have the energy. Nonetheless both men and women will engage in talk about relationships and sex, the women will usually talk about toxic or crazy exes. Why things couldnt work out, some of the more "bro" type women wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:44 AM
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No it isn’t, pick mes are more akin to simps. There doesn’t exist a “nice guy” contemporary for women really. Nice guys are seen as an existential threat that pretend to be ok with a platonic relationship while women honestly pretend as if most men are ok with existing in this gray area. The female equivalent quite frankly is a crazy chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:13 AM
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Maybe. Lust has a way of swooping people into a fantasy. Guys ignore red flags in chicks who are promiscuous and attractive as well. It’s simply human nature. The spiteful response only manifests because the “nice guy” feels like their effort was wasted. The charismatic manipulator becomes toxic when he loses control. The key distinction is that one man you were attracted to from the beginning and the other you led on (intentionally or not). Usually failing to set boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:11 AM
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Pick me has no where near the same negative connotations of “nice guy”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:33 AM
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What that’s not by choice though. That’s purely by circumstance of a deteriorating relationship or life expectations, etc. There is no intelligent justification for a single person to elect to become a single parent if not in a situation where it’s more or less their hand was forced. That’s completely selfish to the kid. Not to mention the way you framed it, as a normal person with a decent full time job. There’s no coparenting, visitation, child support. You literally are presumably putting you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:19 AM
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Because it’s silly and spiteful. Why would any rational person CHOOSE to be a single parent while working a full time job? You’re better off just not having kids, not getting married and just having a boyfriend or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:14 AM
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Just because standards may change doesn’t mean that at any particular time there doesn’t represent an overarching general idea of what’s considered conventionally attractive. Unless I’m misunderstanding you’re trying to argue that attractiveness cannot have objective standards whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:18 PM
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It's not really subjective, there are conventional standards of beauty that apply to all regardless of race, age or gender. These standards tend to outweigh any individual's particular preferences as they have greater impact on a broader scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:27 PM
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How is that an incel scale and what’s the bias? It seemed pretty fair for the most part. I don’t follow celebs and most of the push back will probably be by people with celebrity bias but it seemed fairly objective on the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:39 AM
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That is just so blatantly fucked up ngl lmao. I know this happens but when you say it out loud it really hits home, damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:56 AM
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Really so I didn’t explain how there is significant context to WHY men and women would generalize extremely negative behaviors of the opposite gender online? I didn’t explain how it’s entirely reasonable to even succumb to that due to its prevalence? Shit did I also forget to address how others intentionally misconstrue and minimize these sentiments to try and seem more rational than everyone else as well such as you? It’s amazing how you think your anecdotal experience doesn’t explicitly contra…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:50 PM
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I swear half the complaints I see describing all women on here apply only to those with cluster b personality disorders. Like you're extrapolating that small but easy population to all women. It's precisely "easy" because it isn't a small view point, its a view point often argued for. Alternatively you'll have a PoV that is more condescending and trying to come off as contrarian and middling that tends to pop up often as well. Very rarely do I see a PoV from men or women for that matter which si…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:13 PM
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This is a pretty obtuse way of looking at things. The implication is that things WOULD change because they would no longer be talking past each other. You can attribute this to any struggle a demographic might be facing in which they seek acknowledgement. Domestic abuse, racism, etc. People will try to convey their side in hopes another human being who may not have understood their PoV now can. The person may not 100% agree with conclusions or potential solutions however there is a human connect…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:46 PM
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What does this mean? O-o
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:26 PM
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Well it’s fair to say the average woman you come across wouldn’t look like that, especially without modification sure. However that wasn’t his point with that particular woman unless I’m missing something. The other two women he referenced were also far more in line with what I would consider average as well. Which is what he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:07 PM
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What? I'd say he was pretty on the mark with all of his ratings for the normal guy. Guys get really defensive once you go into the 7, 8 , 9, 10 range because every highschool sweetheart or whoever the baddest chick they are talking to at the time is a 8, 9, 10 to them. That lady does not look like shes had major work done, it's possible there has been work done but honestly her proportions are very normal. She's simply slim and wearing form fitting cloths. thats unrealistic? Just because we're o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:52 AM
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The most common mantra you'll see here is that young men are sexless and it's an epidemic that needs to be solved. And we shall start by... holding women accountable? IF we're talking about "dating issues" in the modern day then yes women do need to be held accountable for their actions in their own dating lives. That goes without saying, you can't live in a society that has so much education available to many groups of people both men and women, fights for social justice, "breaks barriers", see…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:56 PM
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Uh yes? Thats the entire premise of "internalized (insert whatever buzzterm)", it's that you simply exist in ignorance due to your circumstances of who you are unbeknownst to you. It's so bizarre to me people act like what said on social media/online isnt indicative AT ALL of ANYTHING in real life when that couldnt be further from the truth. The internet provide a lot of people anonymity and convivence to engage in talk they otherwise dont have the liberty to express. You dont hear it because it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:34 PM
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I dont get where he's coming from. He's presumably the same age as me (Gen z/late millennial) and if thats the case women have not been oppressed. Most men didnt grow up being the golden boy, or around his peers with young girls in the group who HAD to acquiesce to him BECAUSE he was a boy. He wasnt given special treatment by male teachers. His peers did not witness real time the he and boys in general were propped up over all the girls despite their sheer incompetence, and placed in positions t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:18 PM
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Young men fleeing to reactionary figures like Andrew Tate is not empowering but a response to feeling left out even when they have been included and supported so much in the past. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the tone in which you delivered this was just an honest oversight, but it's consistent little jabs like this that fuel the "gender war" if you will. This us vs them mentality however you want to describe it. You don't have to minimize the modern day male experience to u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:01 PM
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Why is the social acceptance of fringe sexual groups worthy of government intervention? The reason is the same it’s because the people care. Most rational people do not believe marginalized groups shouldn’t see support. However you are delusional if you think a vast majority of your “straight “ peers are the prodigal sons of America. Most rhetoric around young straight men, in particular white men (im a minority btw), is some of the most brutal and hateful. It presumes these people are dangerous…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:33 PM
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People in fact do speak like this in the real world to be honest and a lot of older people in my life have increasingly opened up to the idea of things contrary to what you say. I think everyone should give themselves a good shot at a healthy relationship and sure some people can go off the deep end but this idea that this trend of though isn't "normal" isn't true. It's just not said aloud and many people reconcile a lot of the aftermath in different ways. Lots of people cheat, but also lots of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:50 PM
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Yeah you're right on this one. Like the girl didnt have to suck you off or sleep with you but at least acknowledging that she curbed you mere hours before and offering to go on a coffee date with you would probably be worthy reciprocation. Both are low investment gestures but enough investment to at least accommodate the other's interest. Hers in getting home safely with strangers who arent obligated, and yours in getting a date with a nice girl who otherwise didnt really have an intrinsic inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 01:34 PM
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I never said “good jobs”. I simply said jobs and being genuinely good people. I’m going to assume you don’t have such a cynical view of the average woman do you? That’s the distinction I’m trying to point out. You genuinely believe we are at a point where functionally speaking there are no “good men”, whereas good woman could practically be found walking down the street?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:27 AM
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The title is absurd and ridiculous. Instead of looking at the current political, social and economic climate to understand why people are having difficulty leading very well off lives to be as sexy, rich and emotionally stable as they could be; we see this as a male specific issue. All people are struggling but this is simply just another example of how men are continually dehumanized today by women and the media contrary to popular belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:42 AM
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This is such bleak way to paint “most men”. Most men do not have jobs and comparatively to your average girl aren’t good enough people? That’s literally your argument. You do realize that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:35 AM
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I’ve lived on both coasts in major cities (New York, San Diego) and I’ve traveled to many places in America and even abroad. I can say with most certainty regardless of peoples age or political leaning you are far less likely to encounter what you describe if you left your friend circle. I’m also a millennial 28, turning 29 this month.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:24 AM
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Right except we see a modern day war between two nations right now in Ukraine where men are forced to stay, women can choose to volunteer and people are dying. Also just because a war with the US would largely be fought with aircraft and ships doesn’t mean casualties wouldn’t happen. Have you ever been on a US navy war vessel and gone through training that is necessary to keep the ship afloat and avoiding mishaps or worse yet sustaining damage from actual conflict? Your perception of how fatalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:19 AM
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I don’t hang around people over 30 at all. Most women I talk to on either coast would not date a man who is bisexual period. These people aren’t generally homophobic either to be honest or at least they don’t blatantly come off as such. They say all the things about acceptance and being kind etc etc. I’ve rarely seen a woman willingly date a man who was legitimately bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:15 AM
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This is a very personal anecdote. By and large most women aren’t comfortable dating bisexual men. Women in general I find hold very similar/identical negative stereotypes commonly held against gay men. Also a man being gay or assumed to be gay in itself is grounds enough for a woman to discount him from being a potential mate. You are in the minority, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:06 AM
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Damn thats kinda sad. Couldnt really say why that happens. Guys are for the most part pretty upfront about what we like or shit we fall prey to. We call out Bs consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:29 AM
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Ok sure but these are not necessarily a priority when it comes to self improvement and often times when people are genuinely motivated to achieve a goal, it isn't wholistic in nature. Compromises are genuinely made. A person who seeks hyper success at their profession or even their hobby are likely to take on very unhealthy habits that come to the detriment of many other areas of their life to include mental health, finances and social skills. So in essence what you may genuinely have a burning …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:56 AM
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Main point 👉 I think the fact that it works is never really acknowledged as part of the problem. It's literately acknowledged all the time by "losers" and "incels" but then argued disingenuously that it's faulty generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:34 AM
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But that seems like too short of a list. Let's say that you get all of the above, but the following is also true: She has different political views She's emotionally immature Drowning in debt and terrible with money Awful taste in music, fashion, food, in your opinion No sense of humor, boring personality, can't hold a conversation ​ ​ ​ Right and the beauty of all this is that she's human. Men are ok with all of these flaws to an extent because we're human and human beings have flaws. Do you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:53 AM
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Sure but to the point of validating behaviors off of generalizations, even if something isn't "absolutely true" doesnt mean you take into careful consideration every single possibility or positive outcome. Generalizations about all things exist. We could assume positive or favorable outcomes for things that in general would likely end up bad, but rather err on the side of caution, thus creating a world view for the explicit purpose of self preservation. People take the RP generalizations persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:08 AM
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Public rejection is being gunned down sure most certainly. Public rejection is almost always associated with public humiliation. Not everyone handles rejection well. Not only that not all rejection is handled with care or class. You can be brutally rejected, admonished, false allegations, etc. The point being made is a guy talking to a girl obviously not being serious about having a serious relationship is easily dismissed. Whereas the guy who gets rejected is going to feel shame for failing and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:49 AM
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What for? What was missed? The men you dated and identified as fuckboys were not the kind loving considerate responsible and respectful people you want us to believe them to be. You were infatuated and love bombed. It’s pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:35 AM
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Yes women do the world so many favors by virtuously lying through their teeth. You really want to hold on to that for dear life huh? Women have to lie to stay alive, in 2023, in AMERICA no less. News to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:04 AM
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Women aren't naturally "loose", there's a job for that too. Called being a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:50 AM
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A cooperation can indiscriminately lay you off with no options. A cooperation doesnt respect your feelings or care if you are sickly. A cooperation isnt going to care for your future. A cooperation isn't going to treat you like a partner and a special person in their life. I think it's quite disingenuous to equate "marriage" with "bad man". But hey do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:34 AM
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You're generalizing behavior for starters. The critique was never that guys can't tell women their life problems, it's that the suggestion to be open is often met with reprisal (from the woman) when any modicum of it is expressed. Countless examples to extrapolate from, but even something as simple as crying, a singular action, can be met with reprisal. No words, no further explanation just an expression of sadness and an emotion all humans will eventually have confront. I'm not using an unhealt…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:14 AM
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Without sex here these scenarios are infantile and not serious. Why would anyone legitimately be miffed about what essentially equates to flaky guys who weren't worth committing to? Thats not what a fuckboy is. A fuckboy gets sexual access, otherwise he's just another dude shooting his shot and getting gunned down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:07 AM
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At 22 or 23 up to 26 it shifts to money due to patriarchy and artificial scarcity. 27 - 35 it goes back to looks as the girls move down in their own looks and lose the ability to get single high income guys. Oh please. Due to real life and being a goddamn adult. You're really going to blame the "patriarchy" on a bunch of brats who are forced to grow up? LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:50 AM
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You're describing people who use low level love bombing tactics to persuade desperate or vulnerable people. You also conveniently left out how each of these girls did more than get a free dinner or go out on some innocent coffee date. They both presumably had sex with these guys which is significant. When you give something to someone in a relationship you value extremely with no reciprocity you'll take it hard. They didn't set proper boundaries for who they would have sex with and aptly got bur…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:16 AM
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What are you talking about? Fuckbois are fuckbois through and through, they don'thide who they are. There is nothing "nice" about them. Unless you conflate being "nice" with being manipulative and relatively cordial. It's actually hilarious how "nice" has been devalued into a 10 cent word. It's practically meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:06 AM
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This is something reddit incels aren't aware of. I've had women literally telling me they aren't attracted to me and then becoming completely obsessed with me. This happens all the time. Everyone is aware of it, these preferences however are incredibly toxic and not accurate to reality. It isnt called out as such and thus the consistent backlash. Enter every argument about double standards in dating... ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:34 AM
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The difference is really a silver lining, that being the outcome of said emotional "dumping", nothing more. The moment I ask anyone in my life to be "open" presumably because I feel as though they have not been communicating whats on their mind I have directly participated in being an active listener, I have volunteered to do so. It doesnt matter what they decide to dump on me, they are free to do so, as long as I am willing to listen. That being said the presumption is that I will listen to dam…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:26 AM
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You can get more resources if you lose them. Alot of the damage done to your body is permanent. And time cannot be bought, it is permanently lost. It takes time to get those resources and not all resources can just be indiscriminately replaced easily. Health is important but people both man and woman sacrifice health for resources everyday. Likewise the converse can be said. It depends on the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:18 AM
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Man get off that bullshit. People really try arguing against something no one tries to defend. Shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:35 AM
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Lol go be a social justice warrior somewhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:39 AM
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You’re completely missing the point that the women themselves didn’t want “modest” lifestyles so no I wasn’t “delusional “. Your calculator is using metrics for living on a budget not comfortably. Just click some of the tabs, for instance housing is assuming you’re renting out APARTMENTS even with 4 children and two parent families. This is incredibly skewed toward very economic living. You’re trying really hard to be right when you could have just accepted the fact that you are framing the enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:24 PM
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The median income in the US is $37k https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N The "house hold" income is $70k. This is probably due to combined family incomes (two working parents) OR a single income high earner. These nothing "amazing" about your facetiousness, it's simply stupid. No matter how "cheap" you think it is to live in Ohio $70k a year for a 6 person home is not the lifestyle people aim for, it certainly isnt comfortable. It's only $30k above the poverty line. The average home …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:25 PM
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He would always give those numbers because he would always ask the woman how much they would want their husband to make for the lifestyle she wanted. If she's a SAHM she brings no income, thus unless she's willing to live in abject poverty (A family of 6 if you include those children), a man making a median income ($37-52k a year) isn't enough. Most of the women didn't want "average" earners because they didn't want to lead "average" lifestyles. Living an above average lifestyle in a household o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:43 AM
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Yeah it's usually guys who really push that stuff tbh, girls will then rally behind it if they are in toe. My intent wasn't to demonize women or their desires, it was to just get perspective from women who may agree with this pov. anyway thanks again for participating. A shame the mod took it down for "ranting" lol. I'll probably be less detailed and more open ended in the next topic I ever post up if I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:27 AM
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Socially awkward and uninteresting women are not successful with men either, nor would it make any sense for them to be. They are, men have far lower standards. I'm not trying to change your mind, just trying to legitimately garner perspective. I know the male perspective on this. You might ASSUME socially awkward, uninteresting, nerdy girls arent successful with guys, but as far as "dating" goes, even they get boyfriends. Whether it lasts....? Yeah you're perspective will start to take root mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:24 AM
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"Whats wrong with big girls" + "don't shame fat women" =/= "you need to fuck fat girls". There's no equivalence there, you appear to be reading into this too much No it is explicitly implying that. This is a common thing men do with each other, among other comments made about overweight women. I appreciate your perspective though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:19 AM
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I can understand your first point though wouldnt that just be an incredibly vain mindset to have? I've met plenty of women who were also socially awkward, uninteresting and very nerdy. Don't these types exist on both ends of the spectrum, isn't it hypocritical to scrutinize male vanity and not female vanity? As for your second point I do not observe this all too often. I think women very much so lean into your first point while taking a moral stance (the second point). It fits body positivity wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:10 AM
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Lots of level headed respectable people do. It's usually not to the point of blatant kicking and screaming. But it often will be done in subtle ways. "Whats wrong with big girls" as they sheepishly grin. Or "hey don't body shame women that isn't nice", even though you never explicitly said anything disparaging about overweight wome. You would have literally just said verbatim "I dont find overweight women attractive". Also Guys get body shamed more than you think on either end of the spectrum. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:04 AM
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But if you can't attract a thin girl it's because you're in fat-girl league. What do you mean by this specifically? What would make a guy who isn't overweight fall into "fat-girl" league? What do you mean "should"? Exactly as it implies. Why shouldnt a fat girl deserve a fat guy? Is this a legitimate mindset that as a girl no matter your weight (generally) you deserve AT LEAST SOMEBODY whose somewhat in shape. Whereas some men (fat) deserve nothing at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:57 AM
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Yeah I think the annoyance part you might see slimmer guys give off is eventual frustration from the blatant double standard. When society is more or less demanding you tear your body apart just so you can get the time of day; anyone who even entertains the thought of you getting with a girl who isn't at least watching what she eats will legitimately piss you off. I legitimately think if people understood that the body shaming goes both ways they'd probably just let people accept where they natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:52 AM
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Most people in the US are overweight. Most attractive people in the media are at the lower end of healthy weight. So if most people are "overweight" wouldn't that logically mean people who are slimmer are considered more attractive? This is why question #2 was asked in specific because while your response to #1 makes sense, it doesnt really explain the knee jerk assumptions about "wanting hot girls". Is it just insecure projections of highlighting an extreme conclusion to make guys seem unreason…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:41 AM
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So above average. Props to him, hard work pays off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:03 AM
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By looks, money and even height alone you are above average. Borderline Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:00 AM
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The word exploit is being thrown around liberally and is probably being used because what being described at all times isn't actual exploitation. If we aren't talking about people being sex trafficked (so presume that's off the table), it's literately two adults making an excahnge of service/resources for what they need. The men need the sex and companionship just as much as the women need the money. The thing they provide being woman(sex/companionship) and men (money) are things they can easily…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:42 AM
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So aren’t these men just creating the same country they wanted to escape all over the world? Wouldn’t it be better to fix and invest in your home country where your family is? The thing is it's about opportunity and reciprocity. Most people aren’t looking to better society as a whole man or woman especially when it comes to personal decisions they make in regards to their relationships. Most American women are making equal pay as men, hold similar job opportunities and positions ,etc. To those w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:56 AM
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Your question is silly. Why wouldnt a normal individual man or woman judge a person who they thought to be looking odd? Would you similarly not "respect" an overweight guy walking around the mall with a pink hello kitty hoodie on and crocs? Probably, most do so discretely or to themselves. No one just walks around "respecting" people for no reason, respect isn't an arbitrary right you give to strangers.. Mutual respect for a human being, (genuine self interest in not engaging in unlawful or prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:06 AM
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HVM and to an extent what some women are trying to term themselves a "HVW" is really just an expression of what a person perceive someone who is of high status in society. While I do think Kevin Samuels idea is probably closer to truth, as it's the most common denominator; most people interpret high value with status and wealth be it man or woman. If you ever engage in conversation this is what it is most often referring to. It has very little to do with character, what you actually do, etc. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:24 AM
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Bruh I swear people who have never done this themselves, or anything remotely close are living a fantasy in their heads. It's uncomfortable as fuck, its not even fun. I'd rather be 5 minute nut bitch boy than 45 minute "chad". I've done both, the latter is a experience I INTENTIONALLY AVOID.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:14 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:48 PM
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Now this is my most controversial take here, DVM is equal amongst the genders, neither men nore women have an inate advantage in this regard. Disagree. Simply because modern dating hasnt evolved to fully disregard traditional expected gender norm biases/expectations even by people who claim to not be bound by them. Men for the most part are expected to be significantly more experienced and financially well off than women. They are expected to be interesting, forward, somewhat assertive, etc. Gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:24 AM
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Responding to this string of posts since seems to be the only ones who came close to what you may be looking for. I personally do not completely agree with Tate, in particular the idea of male promiscuity in relationships being excused; but to an extent even that can be argued. But lets start with the question itself: Q. What do you like about Tate and his world ideology? A. It is extremely consistent with lived experience and explains why men face the struggles they do today. Tates world ideolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:53 AM
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The disillusionment comes with the realization that the world view you were raised with or taught are radically different than observable reality, at least for a majority of men. It has very little to do with radical red pill content, or frequenting the most vile of establishments. It’s experiencing first hand what it’s like to get cheated on, or lied to after genuinely putting your best foot forward, being falsely accused, being the guy your coworkers/friends/ or acquaintances gf wants to cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:19 PM
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“Character”? Really, we’re really going to keep peddling the idea that most men are significantly flawed as normal human beings to the point they aren’t deserving of relationships or at the very least “attractive “? Because of “character” flaws? I think desire and the willingness to act on impulse without judgment weigh far greater than someone’s moral character and actions that display as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:08 PM
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It’s alarming you treat intimate relationships as flippant experiences. Maybe you’re into swinging or something idk. This is weird nonetheless. Most people are not ok with serial dating within a friend group it gets incredibly awkward. Two people being on and off is one thing but still tricky since taking sides can be a real inevitability. More than two individuals? This is a recipe for drama and group break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:54 PM
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Why are there so many excuses for being an irresponsible coward? Cheating always deserves one thing, the end of the relationship. Unless by the grace of the person who was cheated on, and honestly even then that’s silly but to each their own. If a relationship is toxic enough where a person wants to leave, but is afraid of reprisal (physical abuse) cheating even in this instance is STILL no advisable as it’s not addressing the issue. If you’re in a dangerous and toxic relationship seek authoriti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:50 PM
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A person cheating once is a red flag usually. Twice? That’s definitely a pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:24 PM
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Most black men tend to marry within their race.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:07 PM
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I wasn’t specifically speaking on black male fetishization specifically. MOC includes all minorities, and black men getting casual hook up preference over other ethic males for stereotypical assumptions doesn’t really push the conversation into a more positive direction. It’s just the worst elements of modern dating (superficial objectification of a gender) flipped on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:57 PM
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This isn’t about jealousy stop it. Both men and women have plausible reason to be weary of people outside of their relationship especially exes. It’s a blatant conflict of interest often times. This is incredibly disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:46 PM
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Sure and as a young person myself (28) who has seen these things happen real time people cross the line often. This isn’t just fair game and typically people in friend groups who do this aren’t your friend. They don’t respect you or your relationship. This tends to end up in cheating or sexual assault ESPECIALLY when drugs are involved. Why are you being so permissive of so many red flags?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:45 PM
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With a guy she used to have sex with. Hence the boundary set beforehand neither he or his ex will be spending time with exes while they are mutually exclusive. It’s respecting boundaries, the relationship, it’s being honest, it’s avoiding conflict of interest or potential mishaps in circumstances rife with “unexpected “ happenings due to the influence of drugs/alcohol. This juvenile hook up attitude is really astounding. Stop being a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:09 PM
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Yeah it's very interesting. I went to college starting the summer of 2012 and it was the first time I witnessed this phenomenon as a young MOC. I still attracted women but there were WOC who were head over heels for white guys, they had an overt fetishization of them that was rather bizarre. I generally think that despite the criticism we see for cis white men, the societal view that they hold higher status I think generally rings true. This has significant impacts on their dating prospects espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:45 AM
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You have no idea what you're talking about. All men require copious amounts of work to get dates on dating apps. Dating in these "passport countries" garners far more efficient results unilaterally. Simply because all western men have inherently higher status in those areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:31 AM
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Why shouldnt this guy be in a relationship, because they set boundaries about not spending time with exes? What? If you like being in relationships where spending time with exes whenever you fancy is on the table then do you. Not everyone has to be open to that to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:43 AM
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You set a clear boundary about exes, she nonchalantly answered. She doesnt respect your boundaries. You aren't being paranoid, and anyone who condones this kind of behavior is being disingenuous. You being trusting of her is honestly being very generous to be honest with you, its entirely plausible to assume drug and alcohol use at a party can lead to something if you aren't being vigilant. You'll get flack for this, but this is simply a no go. Break up with her, get with a girl who can agree to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:42 AM
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It’s fine at the end of the day intelligent people will take advantage of opportunities where they see fit. Not that every opportunity needs to be taken however as I said in another comment, it’s hypocrisy at its finest. This outcome doesn’t even need to necessitate male standards either. You can legitimately be someone who is not selected for casual or traditional relationships and still be faced with this reality. It’s really not the end of the world and honestly I think more guys should use i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:42 AM
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Because it's disingenious to assume either sex does not have general behaviors or trends that are influenced by society, religion, political ties, upbringing, etc. The moment a person tries to dismiss plausible generalizations with "just get to know someone bro"; is the moment you immediately know they do not have a solid argument or foundation for patterns of behavior. Every individual has a degree of uniqueness yes, but we aren't all 100% thoroughly unique in every aspect of our being. Why are…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:57 AM
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Yeah it's mundane hypocrisy. Women who arent more attractive than your conventional man are typically overweight, and thats typically a lifestyle choice. Men shouldnt be expected to be on the same attractive level or above that of women imho. Sure we can roughly gauge what a male 7 is and what a female 7 (or even 5's for arguments sake) is then properly pair the two, but the woman in this case is physically more attractive. Women are simply the fairer sex. It's a shame so many women choose to le…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:51 AM
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So many salty comments. What’s wrong with acknowledging the evident disparity in male sexual experiences domestically vice abroad? Just because you haven’t had sex domestically doesn’t mean you are a loser. So many salty comments lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:30 AM
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What’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:28 AM
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Maybe she's an instagram model. Not that it necessarily necessitates the price but, I could totally see someone doing one time for the one time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:39 AM
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To be fair I am not trying to argue for extremes. More so that more often than not the act of sex itself is only skin deep and nothing more. For both men and women. Respect has very little to do with it, simply not being disgusted is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:37 PM
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This was the most asinine thing I could have responded to no offense. I don’t understand how you think the redpill supports your stance or your idea that you cannot openly oppose a woman’s views if you wish to procure a relationship or have casual sex with them. This is flatly false and you needn’t bring up extremes either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:11 PM
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What are you trying to imply? You can just state your point or counter point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:59 PM
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That is not true at all. Men don’t need a woman to be respectful to have casual sex with them. A man would have sex with a man hater if she offered and he was horny enough. The point is that men don’t have to please women in order to sleep with them. This perception is flatly false. If you consumed redpill content you’d be acutely aware that a man doesn’t need to please a woman. I’m not sure why you were trying to strongly suggest this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:56 PM
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Your biggest flaw here is thinking voters control democracy. Money is the true voice of the "people". If VR and sex robots are more profitable than the female voting consumers, legislation will not be passed to disallow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:37 PM
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Yeah well said. I do think however that as technology evolves and becomes more sophisticated distinguishing from the real will matter less and less. Similarly to how women are interacting with social media and their general idea of life in general I think VR companions/sex robots will probably function the same way. We already see various forms of escapism in men today in porn and video games. Imagine combining both in a super sophisticated way thats truly immersive that also satisfies your phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:30 PM
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And neither did social media? Women love being social and as a result social media has become their go to for their craving for attention. Social media gives you connection to millions of people world wide. You everyday girl next door can become an overnight internet sensation. She can garner the attention and adoration of a few thousand, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people with nothing more than a cute face and a wink. This is certainly overstimulation as well. We see the negat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:10 PM
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The context is bad behavior exhibited by women, in this case married women stepping out on their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:46 AM
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Sex must be earned by being a desirable partner and if you keep pissing them off, you will stay an undesirable partner. Yes and women who continually piss off men will continue to be treated with indignation, abuse, contempt and the like. What is the point of this perspective honestly? This is like redpill x1 million tbh. Sure somethings can't be negotiated much, however everyone is put into a position where they are forced to compromise eventually. Whether it be due to life circumstances, the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:32 AM
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Thats not survival of the fittest at all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:23 AM
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Your entire first paragraph proves his point of why "bad guys" get relationships, regardless of how unfortunate you frame the circumstances. Your conclusions for thier outcomes are also false. Plenty of manipulative guys can pull the heart strings and get genuine love/desire from love struck girls. However I think the most egregious part of your post is this... The "nice guys finish last" meme is men who think of themselves as being nice standing in the way of their sexual success instead of fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:59 AM
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Being mindlessly “selfless” with people you do not even have a relationship with is actually BAD! This is such a toxic mindset to have and probably why people excuse their attraction to people with poor character, as liking a good guy rather than just admitting they were really horny and star struck. I think you over reach here and honestly a more apt conclusion is that more people than not have a difficult time distinguishing truly selfless individuals from those who aren't. Moreover legitimate…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:33 AM
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So a majority of women you encounter?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:26 AM
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But it isn't and thats the point. Having to be more than a good person is such an ambiguous critique that would confuse most people. Especially when results don't seem to pan out for so many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:10 AM
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I suppose to a degree this can be true. Though I dont think this is the case with everyone though and honestly not every life circumstances for men and women outside the US is some harrowing story. In your view a woman who isnt from the "west" is either using you for cash or is being pimped. So whats the alternative for guys who "aren't good enough"? Just be what you want them to be or die alone/sexless? It's quite interesting to say the least how cynical women are when it comes to foreign women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:51 PM
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Would you date a woman that has been rejected by the entire town ? Plenty of dudes date sex workers(escorts, strippers, OF, etc) or otherwise known promiscuous party girls , people who have been historically shunned by society for being fit for conventional relationships even today. As long as the guy doesnt think the girl is a net negative he doesnt care what anyone thinks. I don't think women think the same way though. Dating for men is also very different imo. Men will date a woman (or many w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:11 PM
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I disagree. I think a few things Your stories are missing elements in which the girls were complicit in those relationships. No way they were all simply blind sided Most girls engage in consenting relationships that presumably start off with consenting casual encounters. As a result of point 2, (mutual compliance) they get caught up in the moment; hoping the best for what should be considered a casual relationship. Not all girls date non-serious guys. Bad actors and liars do exist, likewise stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 03:47 PM
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Yeah guys will chase excellence if it has a tangible goal that makes sense to them and is worthwhile to them. It’s why lots of guys don’t really commit to the gym, because they understand the benefits but the practical uses for their personal lives isn’t really necessary. If you’re young and generally healthy, you don’t need to be in the best physical shape possible. However if you genuinely like playing a sport like basketball, football, boxing, etc; you instantly have a motivation to reach you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 02:07 PM
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Not sure I would generalize all people who speak about porn as red-fems or trad-cons. I think it's just a generally held position when it's talked about. "Healthy porn use" isn't really discussed. It's interesting because I think to a significant degree sexual expression or enjoyment in recreational mediums of entertainment imho is still for the most part socially taboo. Though I do believe there are many people who don't say anything on the matter who do not immediately think "porn use = addict…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:32 PM
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I 100% agree we should encourage men to view women as individuals and of course vice versa. We should all respect each other as human beings and each others emotions, that should go without saying. Though you canot treat all individuals the same. We do not treat parents as we treat friends, or distinguished politicians or celebrities, etc. It's a completely different dynamic and THATS where the problems arise imho on both ends. Once you cognitively know you're sexually attracted the rules change…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:17 PM
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To be fair, a lot of people watch porn..The media we consume and enjoy doesn’t always reflect reality. Fair, but then why do both men and women cling to the notion that "porn addiction" is destroying men. I don't mean as in speaking about addiciton in a general sense as unhealhty, no, I mean regular porn usage is simply just immidiately talked about as an "addiciton" and "disgusting". Women will even go as far as to have entire diatribes dedicated to how a man who may use porn once in a while is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:30 PM
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Not trying to make this an oppression Olympics I’m simply offering you perspective that is lacking. I don’t know why but for some reason I get this impression that regardless of what men literally say, many women will assume they are either lying or just being lazy. I’m sure you value things like activities and hobbies but the critique of the post was explicitly very mature. Christian women aren’t choosing chad over the choir boy because the choir boy doesn’t like to play basketball, I’m assumin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:59 PM
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Ok? I have no reason to lie or exaggerate. Being left leaning (or right for that matter) doesn’t mean you are more congruent in your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:10 PM
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Yet you still didn’t specify what these “other positive and attractive “ qualities are? Preferring a man who can provide? Under what context or pretense do you base this under? Woman flippantly speak of finances as if we aren’t experiencing a recession, hard economic times or a period in particular where many women out earn men especially in more metropolitan areas. Would you mind elaborating (being explicitly deliberate and specific) in what constitutes a man who is able to “provide” (Age and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:56 PM
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Regardless of political views people default to their true colors. I’ve seen plenty of girls slut shame because they just didn’t like other girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:04 PM
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Nope, in fact conservative women in my personal experience tend to be less… lose cannons. I’m from New York, been all over the east coast and lived in San Diego for a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:09 PM
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I suppose different social circles are different, similar to op in a different comments I have also usually witnessed women be more harsh and quick to slut shame women before men. Men tend to be much more reserved and less judgmental unless the woman in question is someone they know personally who has slighted them. I’ve consistently witnessed women give unsolicited slut shaming comments to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:55 PM
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First of all slut shaming happens more with women than with men. Simply because women compete with each other for men just like men compete with each other for guys. Women know men do not like having their girl being considered sluts. When a woman calls another girl a slut she is lowering her value social as a person. It’s like a man calling another man a bitch or gay (even women shame men by calling them gay btw). It’s a dig at his masculinity, to invalidate him and force him Into submission. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:04 PM
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“Slightly religious “, is simply living life with Luke warm convictions. More aptly put being a hypocrite in plain sight. I’m no saint but I at least to don’t hold myself to a standard I cannot handle, which is the problem with most religious women. Fake religious guys who get into relationships with these “religious” women are able to do so because those women tend to lack discretion, discipline or proper support . They then fall back onto said religion as their savior to wipe them of all their…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:17 AM
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Caring about yourself and having a personality? In what ways does adhering to your religious values take away your personality or caring for yourself? I do not mean to play the fool here so I’ll save you trouble of trying to wonder whether I understand the distinction. People who say this want to step out of their religious doctrines typically to indulge in indiscretions. I’ll put it bluntly, traditional Christian women who speak like this are out of pocket. You do not have the liberty of explor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:55 AM
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Gonna be honest with you I don’t really think it’s that extreme. Everyone has their quirks though by and large as long as two people share similar lifestyles and values they can coexist, get along even love each other. The reason why “Chads” (sexually indiscriminate men) get chosen a lot more is simply because the consequences are fleeting/nonexistent or not visible in the present. There’s no need to go steady with a nice guy when you can experiment and have your fun while you’re young. It’s a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:38 AM
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Excuse me? This is an odd one, what do you mean more than religious? Do you actually take your faith seriously or are you just another one of those seasonal religious types. Who value the things of worldly men (money, status, power, sexual prowess ) above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 10:13 AM
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You’re just being incredibly combative for no reason. What the guy said wasn’t even really inflammatory and you took it as an opportunity to make a gross sweeping generalization about men on a topic without considering any plausible nuance. Guy basically said “yeah some guys don’t commit to girls and it isn’t really their fault” and your retort is “yeah all men are garbage”. In essence. I simply provided perspective which was much less definitive and considerate of likely situations. What was er…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:56 AM
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Men don’t have many options at all. It’s a reoccurring theme in this topic in general. Again you took one statement and made an erroneous generalization about how men as a whole view responsibility. Maybe this was just a bait because it’s pretty clear you made a large assumption based on faulty logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:54 AM
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Simply my interpretation of what was trying to be conveyed. You’re free to take that statement face value and assume in general guys are just being hypocritical and dishonest when going into relationships. Though I don’t think it’s quite that simple nor am I that cynical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:42 PM
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No but thanks for the link I’ll definitely check it out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:17 PM
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I don't think guys who enter into those relationships genuinely go into them not caring for the other person genuinely. That may happen with immature people who are dying to get into relationships, but this isn't exclusive to men, this can also be spotted in young girls who "made a mistake committing too early". Or something of the like. I think whats happening here is that they are caught off guard because getting a girl for a guy isn't as simple as "being decent enough" to find someone whos co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:11 PM
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Personally 1,2 & 8 are the only ones imo that are acceptable to me and even then for a guy my size I don't think I would have a sexual relationship with them. It isnt because I do not find them attractive, they simply seem to be of a shape where I could infer they have eating/lifestyle habits that arent too far from mine. The other girls just seem like binge/stress eaters. I guess I do not fit the "average" physique because I'm not overweight. I am 5' 9" and maintain a weight of roughly 155lbs. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:37 PM
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unfortunate there is no male version
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:22 PM
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Most people view the current situations they are in as losing battles they are just getting by. I don’t think people are simply terrified of rejection. They’ve given up hope that a solution exists and are just coping. Dating, work life balance, finances, people are increasingly unsatisfied with their lives overall and the prospects moving forward.
/r/MensRights28/03/23 02:19 AM
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Except a majority of the negative feedback women give men is often contradictory and rooted in how they feel about situations. The solutions to those situations often times formulate in long term compromises (self sacrifice, increased responsibility, greater generation of resources) where the man significantly changes behaviors immediately for a hope to a long term reward (usually sex, respect or both). To train for this with an AI willingly for men who are already of an adult age (or even teena…
/r/MensRights28/03/23 02:12 AM
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Because unfortunately guys end up turning into a few things presumably by most people. Narcissistic jerk who has his way with women, lies and benefits from the patriarchy -“Nice guy” who pretends to be a friend but is just a shifty lair who is a narcissist -Bitter asshole who is a misogynist -Weak guy who is too emotional, not tough, blue pill and needs thick skin -Weak guy who is too quiet was bullied wants revenge and might be a school shooter The very few positive assumptions made about guys …
/r/MensRights01/03/23 07:06 AM
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Good thing you snapped and educated them. Idiots need to be corrected immediately for their stupidity . Probably should've added that Will I Am would not want be interested in an old overweight single mother.
/r/MensRights23/01/23 06:13 PM
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Gonna be honest I don't think you should see a sex worker with this mindset. You seem to have resentment for manipulative women, which while I understand, eventually you will encounter a sex worker who will likely exhibit the same traits you despise in normal women you view as manipulative and those who do OnlyFans. I do not think your issue is really with a profession, moreso the people you perceive to make up that profession. It's a negative stereotype you've allowed to go a bit far in your mi…
/r/MensRights18/12/22 08:53 PM
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You didn’t take it too far you challenged her on an observation she held which she presented as a generalization. It seems most who even chimed in are in agreement that “mansplaining” is indeed a generalization about all men including your friend. She wasn’t willing to have a nuanced conversation about attributing terrible attitudes to a general population, considering how that could easily be misunderstood it was too “emotionally” distressing. You took it as personally as a woman who would take…
/r/MensRights06/11/22 02:59 PM
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Because there’s someone who benefits from the corruption. Often times the superiors who turn a blind eye to such sexual misconduct were indulging in it themselves.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 10:40 AM
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What drew you in, the sex? I’ve heard similar things from friends.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 12:30 PM
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Don’t read that subreddit it’s misandrist lol
/r/MensRights17/08/22 09:12 AM
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“However, it is not clear that all figurine discovered worldwide were forthis purpose. Some could just have been votive offerings, representations of ancestors, or perhaps even artistic impression. It does seem though, that almost every culture has used some maternal symbolism in the depiction of deities, highlighting creativity, birth, fertility, sexual union, nurturing and the cycle of growth. Later Neolithic civilizations from 5,000 to 1,500 BC in Mesopotamia, India, Egypt and Crete had their…
/r/MensRights15/08/22 03:58 AM
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No one was writing as if they were drunk you were just making a bunch of attacks that had nothing to do with the topic at hand, more so the credibility of the person with an opinion. Again the article itself makes its own statement claiming that something’s should perhaps be revisited, implying a return to revering women for fertility, says it plain as day in its closing statement. No sure why you seem to ignore that as it has everything to do with the context of the conversation. I’d agree the …
/r/MensRights15/08/22 02:44 AM
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You aren’t debating you’re throwing a bunch of ad hominem attacks and not even stating a point directly yourself. First of all the article did a lot to just portray numerous examples of these figures and throughout it multiple times states that they could have been made or representative of a multitude of things here’s an excerpt. “While no one can definitely say what the Hohle Fels Venus actually represented to people at that time, and her symbolism comes entirely from anthropologists’ interpre…
/r/MensRights15/08/22 01:31 AM
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We do not live in the patriarchy and it does not exist in the west. In fact for most of the US history I’d argue it never existed. Sparta was a patriarchy for instance. You had a male patriarch that ruled over the land. Men (once they were proven worthy enough to be considered men), regardless of who he was held authority over women. In any patriarchal society women only held authority over men if they fell under the authority of another man who held higher status than the other men who she inte…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:52 AM
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Patriarchy doesn’t exist. It’s a stupid term invented for stupid people (mainly feminists) so they can internalize and normalize victim hood. Not a single person I know of or met has experienced an individual (a man) who benefited from the patriarchy and abides by its subsequent rule’s yielding any form of success. When people talk about the “patriarchy “ what they really are referring to are men who make up a certain socioeconomic bracket. They’d be more apt describing their gripes with classis…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:08 AM
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Their grievances equivocate to the acknowledgement of rampant elitism that has proven democracy in America has long been undermined, we live in a modern day oligarchy, corporate America run this country. To an extent I’d even say it’s on a global scale, even in so called communist countries; the global monetary interest’s hold far more weight than any national or political affiliation. Women have gotten the rights and equality they sought, unfortunately for them and a majority of men it’s been e…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 05:16 PM
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Hard disagree unfortunately and to be honest the next generation (children of millennials and so on) will probably have a much harsher view of women in general since all of this is so well documented. I don’t know how anyone can look at the phenomenon we’ve experienced (3rd wave feminism) ramp up so sharply and not come to the conclusion that it’s incredibly unreasonable. Even within the redpill community when you bring this up their attitude towards it is one of accepting something that will ne…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 04:31 PM
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Yeah which is my point as well. In the social context you are an incel even if you engage in prostitution because it isn't socially validating. Aggressive loneliness. Feelings of hopelessness and lack of value. Mental health issues. Dying early and alone. This implication or fear or stark conclusion for some is the argument why you can be an incel if you engage in prostitution. It's the reason why inceldom can even be considered if you are in a sexless marriage, because sex in society for men an…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 12:09 AM
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I find it rather interesting though because the intent of the word even today still retains its use technically. An excerpt from the wiki for example: “Like a scientist who invented something that ended up being a weapon of war, I can't uninvent this word, nor restrict it to the nicer people who need it". She expressed regret at the change in usage from her original intent of creating an "inclusive community" for people of all genders who were sexually deprived due to social awkwardness, margina…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:40 AM
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No I don’t think you are being apathetic, you’ve been quite thoughtful and honest; which is far more than what most women who engage in this sort of conversation. But these sorts of conversations tend to not happen because there’s a lot of trauma and many flawed concepts of gender roles in a vacuum. People tend to not take into account political climates, social issues that affect a multitude of demographics, economic issues that affect a wider gamut of those within the socioeconomic stratum, et…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:49 PM
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That’s a very good point the most typical or common form of getting even often times takes shape in the form of slut shaming even if it is falsely generated to reinforce confirmation bias. I see this in person and online, however to be completely fair most dudes aren’t out here slut shaming openly. People in general try to be very politically correct however there is a brazenness in our culture to openly ridicule, make harsh jokes or be repulsed by struggling male individuals. Women can get away…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:10 PM
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I’m black, born and raised in queens New York. I joined the military years ago and that was the first time I was in an environment predominantly comprised of white men. Yes in recent years, hell even back when I first joined in 2015, white men had always been getting many harsh comments or attempt at jokes, or put themselves in an apologist sort of position; implying they somehow had to acquiesce to the sensitivities of minorities because they inherently benefited. It was weird to say the least …
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:58 PM
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I think the real question being asked is why do you feel men return that bitterness in kind to women with similar “mistreatment “. Could you give examples you see where you believe men are essentially trying to get even with women? Because I do agree with the general idea that men in general either give women the benefit of the doubt or suffer in silence rather than actively seek retribution against women.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:33 PM
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Dear OP, You aren’t alone many men experience the same emotions and deal with similar things you do as well. The reason you feel the way you do is because you feel you have no other options, you have no outs. You feel constrained by the rules society has set upon you while simultaneously feeling frustrated by the obstacles and limitations imposed; without the necessary outlets or empathy you’d expect others to give you. I would like to tell you, to encourage you that you do not need to feel this…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 05:35 AM
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I mean maybe. I think I better addressed the point in the other reply, which is more or less attributing genders to these issues/topics doesn’t serve a meaningful purpose. Unless the issue or topic in question disproportionately targets either gender and has contextual basis for which making that distinction is necessary for moving forward; it’s better to leave gender out of it because it undermines everything. Most of these topics shouldn’t be men versus women, it’s a shame feminists and an inc…
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:23 PM
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Think I missed this one. The larger thought processes aren’t really missed to be honest with you. Men and women will generally agree on similar things in regards to issues. The minute it’s turned into a gendered discrepancy, especially when the issue at hand doesn’t truly disproportionately affect the opposite gender (in this case women victims of gang violence), that’s when guys are like “why specifically bring up women at all”. It unnecessarily shifts the focus of the entire conversation as if…
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:04 PM
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It bothers people because the generalizations are that damning on a larger scale. Unfortunately the generalization cannot be overlooked. Why say “Mexican male gang members “ when you can simply say “Mexican gang members”? Are there only male Mexican gang members? Do we even need to split those hairs? Perhaps its more poignant to focus on gangs because continuously prefixing negative things with “male/men” doesn’t do anything positive. If men are more predisposed to gang activity even, wouldn’t i…
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:53 PM
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Because to tinge things as “men are the cause of violence in the world “ is a blanket statement that would implicate all men, most of which are middling people who try to do the right thing and aren’t outstanding by any means. I do think it is pertinent to acknowledge that violence in its most raw forms is almost never acknowledged unless woman or children are involved. Blaming men for this is obtuse because it implies women could never be as loud to voice their opinion against it. What good doe…
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:14 PM
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The name matters so far as social customs go. You can’t just expect people who have normal trends of thought to think a long term “committed “ relationship wouldn’t typically result in monogamous marriage. We can discuss the practicality all day long; and yes marriage isn’t very practical for most in our social climate. But it’s as just as a far fetched notion to pitch polygamy, swinging or any other variations of relationships people come up with because we are “human beings”. We’re so intellec…
/r/MensRights10/07/22 02:44 PM
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While we can all have a logical pov that marriage is not such a great move today, it’s pretty hipster to simply ask “why does a couple need to be married to prove commitment “. It really is as disingenuous as you can get to be quite frank with you. Marriage is a shit deal for most dudes nowadays but that isn’t because the premise of marriage itself is flawed. Laws have been twisted to allow marriages to be bastardized, to enable exploitation and to undermine the entire premise of life long commi…
/r/MensRights10/07/22 01:58 PM
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He’s saying their culture is very different even to exclude the taliban regime and is claiming there is documented evidence that refugees participate in this sort of behavior on a somewhat consistent basis.
/r/MensRights17/08/21 07:43 PM
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These are the real women. Get tested
/r/MGTOW11/01/20 11:23 PM
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They can’t help but tell on themselves. Entitled brats.
/r/MensRights23/12/19 12:47 AM
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What’s prostitution got to do with anything? I mean shit even if I were to look at a cheating wife at home and a military man fucking an escort in some foreign country under a similar scope the implications and results are very different . What man fucks a whore in some foreign port and then divorces his wife for the prostitute he slept with months ago, leaving his now ex wife destitute and in a bigger financial hole? This situation is so unlikely it may as well be a bizarre fucking movie. It ma…
/r/MGTOW12/12/19 06:29 PM
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When you say "love" I assume you mean everything that comes along with it such as affection, respect and loyalty. Not love like you would love a child to nuture him/her, but love your significant other where you are completely vulnerable, honest, committed, enthusiastic, etc. Unless proven otherwise no a woman does not love you. They typically love what you provide. "I LOVE YOU" is easily translated to " YOU'RE MY BEST MOST SECURE OPTION". To be less obscure... imho if you aren't in a commanding…
/r/MensRights20/08/19 04:26 PM
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In order to understand this reddit you need to not assume "Men have rights" but rather ask "what rights do you not have"? Popular opinion would like you to believe the following about men: -Men are inherently overly aggressive -Men are inherently sexist -Men are inherently rapists/sexual deviants -Men are stupid/impulsive/illogical -Men get everything they want simply because they are men Im a 25 year old hispanic male. I grew up most of my life with people who liked me in school as a friend. Ma…
/r/MensRights20/08/19 03:08 PM
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