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ur problem and most of the thread is that u think someone who isn't capable of being a fuckboy is ever going to have "fulfillilng sex with someone they care about"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:01 PM
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https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill this is more valuable than anecdotes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 10:59 PM
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does the fuckboy have a good job?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 10:57 PM
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neither. it's ideal to raise ur son like the successful type who'd have kids but make sure he's well socialized and adept at masculine activities so he can do both and marry a high quality girl most of these men who are raised to be beta hubbies either become bitter incels, delusional incels with blue flairs, or have kids with low quality women who are often from third world countries. lots of people in my family are academics and they are especially prone to raising maladjusted fat incel childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 10:52 PM
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https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific\_Blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 10:48 PM
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anecdotes. the most promiscuous man ive ever met is currently in jail for beating his gf and their child and the second most is highly involved in dealing drugs and has gotten in trouble for open carrying an unlicensed firearm. https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific\_Blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 10:18 PM
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disagreeableness, benevolent and hostile sexism, gang membership, criminal history including sexual crimes, antisocial pd, low iq, impulsivity, and a whole lot of other things are correlated with getting laid https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific\_Blackpill of course women avoid guys who can't get laid because of their latent misogyny and entitlement or something
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 09:54 PM
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overwhelming correlation? lol, i highly suspect you youre unaware of little some men fuck or more likely you simply dont associate or notice the kind of forgettable and unnattractive dudes who don't get laid the people i've known with the most noxious view of women have no issue dating or having one night stands and teh vast majority of guys who can't get laid aren't terminally online weirdo inc ls posting their frustrations online the most reliable assumption you can make about guys who don't g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 09:46 PM
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Historically women have been more politically conservative than men, and it's untrue now because of welfare. Men do not benefit from welfare nearly to the degree that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:22 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:16 PM
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No man who isn't religious has any problem dating bisexual women. The bias exists almost entirely when you reverse the situation, bi men and straight women. Subsequently every observation you and TastyCucurbits have made is simply more true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:59 PM
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Why do you think bisexual women tend to do this? I think it's because men are more accommodating and convenient to associate with than women if you're a girl. It's why women tend to prefer male managers, they can just extract more, get away with more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:52 PM
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Anyone who potentially compromises the "supply of females" could illicit aggression whether it be foreigners, lesbians, men who are very attractive, and it has little to do with the "male hegemony of attractiveness", and it goes both ways but for girls it will more take the form of slut shaming and deriding women from other ethnicities or subcultures. It's really weird how you've somehow managed to make this male-centric when bisexual women are practically not regarded as a threat at all by men …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:41 PM
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Why do bisexual girls seem to so infrequently get in relationships with each other? Every gay woman couple I've encountered is a fem bi or "queer" girl getting with a fairly masculine seeming lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:26 PM
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I don't think women are dishonest about it. They say they'll like or maybe just tolerate guys who they aren't attracted to because men can compensate with providential traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:44 AM
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It's dishonest to reduce male attention to crude replies in your mail or how many men would want to have sex with you. A large part of the positive attention and social inclusion you get from people in general is driven by how you look, especially with women. Moreover, even within the confines of your argument, I think you would find that ugly women would disagree if ever you visited the websites they reside in. It's interesting women say this yet you'll see women practically advertising their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:29 AM
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I find it so obnoxious how men who aren't some self sufficient stoic rock are reduced to "little boys" when most women are practically children when assessed on this criteria. I don't actually disagree though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:40 AM
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It's the opposite. Men who fall behind at classic models of manhood are the ones who don't have much to offer. I won't listen to the blue flaired users who argue the opposite who 99/100 times end up with a guy who wouldn't stick out in a college fraternity. No other assumption is so clearly proven to be untrue if only you went outside. Women's preferences in men are much more conservative than vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:12 AM
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Is this remotely true? Dating men is a hundred times easier and less emotionally burdensome because you aren't dealing with a leaky bucket that won't ever be filled who's constantly micromanaging your time or waiting for you to slip up. I cannot understate how mentally taxing it is to consistently play a very heteronormative role in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:07 AM
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You are being dishonest or dumb. Women delay sex with men they want relationships with to have leverage over them. It's a bartering chip.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 06:39 PM
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I don't know what you mean by that, but let's do away with claiming totally undefinable qualities like emotional openness are anything but a secondary factor in one's ability to get into relationships. Blue pillers loooooove creating a lively dialogue within the criteria of poorly defined and individualized qualities while ignoring the basic building blocks of what makes you valuable to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:48 PM
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Emotional openness is so centered upon a women's personal interests at least in how it is used. It's either showing committal behaviors or giving them ammunition in which they can control you, and this is coming from the gender that tends to behave emotionally ambiguously in relationships to maintain commitment and to insure the guy doesn't stop trying. This is even acknowledged by FDS. It's similar to how they use sex like a bartering chip with men they want to have relationships with. How much…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:12 PM
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This thread and all the other threads about this article are chock full of great content! If you're ugly, short, poor, introverted, have mental problems, or suffer from any other obvious trait that makes you less valuable to the opposite sex and live in a place with a declining economy that's increasingly individualistic due to technology in which you are becoming relatively less valuable to your female peers, you should try to be more emotionally available and exhibit less toxic masculinity, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:49 PM
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There is lots of toxic incels and lots of toxic "chads" and the reason why is that this simply isn't a significant determinant of whether someone gets laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:25 AM
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Have you ever considered why nice guy thinking is so prevalent when every romantic and social deficiency is immediately assumed to be some kind of moral failing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:06 AM
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What I find interesting is how quickly people will tell men to date down to the point of visiting third world countries when an obvious implication is that not every man can date down because that would mean more men dating down until you reach the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 07:56 PM
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This phenomenon is very prevalent within classrooms and nerdy male dominated communities. They want all the advantages of associating with you in a context in which you may be useful, but they'll forget you exist outside the setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:43 PM
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Being friends with women is so degrading because they'll subconsciously begin treating you like an orbitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:11 PM
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I agree with that, but men will tolerate a lot to be with an attractive girl and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:10 PM
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This friendship you're referring to half the time is basically parasitism. You'll notice how little women make the distinction between orbitter and friend if ever you associated with them at length. Women will suggest a platonic outting but always word it as you taking them somewhere or shamelessly ask you to drive them somewhere. Some do make the distinction, which is sociopathic imo. I don't know how anyone does this so shamelessly. A guy with a great job who's a bit older than me (I'm bisexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:01 PM
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Probably because it's a well established phenomenon beyond crying that many or even most men can relate to? Why do people on this subreddit double down on obvious nonsense or pretend their exception is the rule? Every woman here loves socially awkward anxiety ridden manlets here apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:19 PM
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This was an interesting observation. The female equivalent to what you've described are all childless middle aged women who podcast about sex or how fat they are and why that's okay!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:11 PM
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If you chronically associate with bad men, then it's a valid thing to point out that your skewed experiences leave you ill suited to describe men as a class.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:10 PM
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You absolutely can compare something as gendered as status between men and women. They are substantiated by different things, but you can compare the extent of either to each other by comparing the degree to which either can fulfill certain success criteria, much of which is not gendered. Because the capacity for women to casually and seriously date is greater than a man's, it is safe to say that in this nongendered regard, women possess more social currency in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:24 AM
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My point in mentioning them both is that being autistic is a social impairment and coming from an western Asian background is as well because their parents tend to be stricter and because western beauty standards and yet these both hardly seem to affect the social outcomes of the women as much as the men, the obvious conclusion being that women are not assessed as critically for certain measures of social currency like personality, social competency, wealth, and looks, and that the innate value …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 07:08 AM
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The real answer is that because young men compete with men older than them, because outcomes for men tend to be more extreme (80:20), because the imbalance of sexual desire between the sexes that exists for various reasons, and because hypergamy, the the threshold for us to be considered desirable or even worthy to associate with is much higher. Social currency is primarily a person's physical appearance, social background, wealth, style, utility, and personality, but personality is strongly rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:57 AM
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Why do you insist on doubling down on obvious nonsense? How about uhhhh looks and money? Height? I didn't intend to keep replying to this chain but this is just way too much. God this is why as obtuse, pessimistic, and inexperienced black and red pillers can be I will always hold them above blue users.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:22 AM
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They lack it relative to their female cohorts because they have more without doing anything by virtue of being young and not totally deformed as well as not being assessed as strictly in terms of finances and assertive or interesting personality traits all in regard to casual dating, serious dating, and just in general. A guy who is not especially good looking with an average job and no other compensating traits is borderline invisible unless he makes a very active effort and half of men are bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 03:03 AM
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When women fail socially it's usually more their personality whereas for guys it's more that they lack social currency, hence why the advice for these men is usually that they should create value of some kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:24 AM
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You are being pessimistic. That's not to say women won't do what you're describing because many do, but they are as much their intimate partners as a prostitute's clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:12 AM
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I don't disagree with your post at all, though certainly keep this in mind the next time you see belittling and tone deaf advice regarding an unsuccessful man's personality because the standards for our behavior are certainly much higher in some ways and difficult to reach without positive reinforcement, a predisposition, upbringing, or even physical size and looks because ugly and short men receive negative feedback for being confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:02 AM
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You said "they" believe chad does all these ridiculous things and that one shouldn't bother arguing with them, which implies that they, the people here, are wrong in thinking that women tolerate these ridiculous things. You have made a claim about the behavior of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:48 AM
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You are speaking for yourself. Every attractive man I know has no problem acting like you've described so there is clearly a subset of women who tolerate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:40 AM
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The standards of behavior and heteronormality women tend to have about men is 100x more restrictive than the reverse. I don't care about anyone's preferences because you're allowed to have them, but it irks me so much when women use manosphere rhetoric with all its negative connotations to describe men as if they wouldn't be exceeded in any of that criteria by your average "beta." It's interesting I've received pushback for saying that women aren't penalized nearly to the same degree for not pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:38 AM
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A woman's past is rarely a big deal unless she has a huge reputation. Every promiscuous girl I've known has no issue getting in committed relationships, and it's precisely because they're attractive. A promiscuous girl who is ugly is not getting commitment because she is ugly before anything else. I'm convinced that slut shaming is mostly the product of female intrasexual competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:20 PM
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The best way average looking guys can get laid is by mingling with a circle that largely revolves around drugs and music.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:06 AM
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Honestly I'm still jealous of the old guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:01 AM
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The body count one is a big double standard. So many women on Reddit have expressed that they'd prefer a guy who didn't' sleep around either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:54 PM
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Why is it okay to judge women for being "slutty" when it's gross and even problematic for men to have high body counts????? Problematic? The chads must be tricking poor women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:03 AM
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The only men I've met with very promiscuous partners are beta buxxing nerds or men who date them casually for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:02 AM
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It's extremely strange how men are shamed for classifying women by their body counts whereas women here and on Reddit seem to overwhelmingly prefer men with low body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:59 AM
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Or can they just really want sex and fulfilling relationships like any normal person?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:55 AM
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Has there been a tripling of men who think premarital sex is wrong? Certainly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:52 AM
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Guys with those traits who operate at a higher functioning level certainly have the same advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:20 AM
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You're definitely exaggerating but this phenomenon extends beyond that. It's almost never a good idea to get in any dispute with a woman especially a popular one no matter how justified you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:18 PM
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Even in safe environments most women chronically feel as if they are a target.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:16 PM
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https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific\_Blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:15 PM
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You have model tier looks and a solid career path and you're a virgin in your mid 20s? You are the pathetic one here. Maybe your unique incompetence is of little relevance to the dating outcomes of men who are ugly, poor, or short.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:58 AM
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Verifiably false and these are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:55 AM
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Only financially imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:59 AM
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Attractive people in general tend to be nicer and act in a less compensatory and insecure matter in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:57 AM
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The vast majority of short guys don't voice height insecurities because it's obviously cringy and still experience the same preference against their stature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:50 PM
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Saying they won't because they're turned off by the insecurity is just a milder way of saying they're not attracted to short men. Claiming short men have napoleon complexes is usually just assessing confident behavior relative to how they think these manlets ought to behave, which is not confidently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:53 PM
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It's not used to discredit violence against women, the whole what about the men thing you'll all complain about is just people pushing back against the gendering of social problems that aren't gendered or even affect men more. It is a blatant erasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:29 AM
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How does being the victim of violence suddenly become invalid in the comparison because the perpetrators are men? Why is this such a recurring argument? It's clear that men and women both are terrorized by the same separate, small, and predominately male section of the population that commits violent crimes. Is it our own problem that should be excluded from the equation that certain structural problems exist in our society that marginalize people into committing violent crimes? People with zero…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:02 AM
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I agree that women are more susceptible to assault but whenever people start listing biological realities of being a woman like menopause or menstruation it means they're running out of things to say. That is not debilitating. Accidentally becoming pregnant and the difficulties associated with that in the vast majority of cases is also an avoidable circumstance of partaking in what is ultimately recreational, beneficial to the woman, and what you aren't entitled to, sex and relationships. Just d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:51 AM
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As a short man with autism I would 100x prefer to have been born a woman. Being a woman is only difficult in comparison to being a man if you want to have a career and children and you are not very attractive or when you are trying to compete in the 1% of careers like STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:37 AM
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I can see why they'd value being able to easily get sex less, but people's emphasis on this point always seems to imply that women have as much difficulty finding relationships as men when obviously they don't. If guys can't find people to go on dates with at all, how hard do you think getting a relationship is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:06 AM
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My point wasn't that IQ determines social life obviously but that a woman with negative social skills who exhibits many strange behaviors from having low functioning autism can easily get dates and be popular.. Women get more positive attention in general and are not nearly as penalized for being timid, anxious, autistic, depressed, mentally ill, poor, or even unattractive by men than men are by women. The disparity in the social lives between sexes of people with autism is a glaring example of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:18 PM
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Most women are incredibly put off by feeling more dominant than the men they get with. Women see men much younger than them as betas, and their preferences generally skew more masculine as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:46 PM
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I literally started laughing when you made the claim that men leave the house solely to gawk at women. I'm not sure why this is even a problem if it's not leering. I am allowed to look at attractive people in public and note their appearance to my friends privately. I'm not sure why this seems to be such a common complaint among some women. It's so horrifying going out and hearing your male friends discuss people's appearances!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:28 PM
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Women have so much more going on socially without trying. My cousin has a diagnosed IQ in the 70s, and she has friends and a boyfriend. EZ mode social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:13 PM
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I hate this idiotic projection. None of the women I have ever pined were very attractive. Only men who are just on the threshold of being able to get with these girls resent them. It was simply never on the table for me, and I don't think about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:42 AM
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Man obviously, but if I were in the bottom 50% of the population, which I am, I would prefer to be born a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:40 AM
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When the onus is on you, when the success rate is low, and when there's an enormous ambiguity with high penalties for failure, that is the result. Give it a few years in this economy and they will be discussing voodoo rituals and tarot cards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:36 AM
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