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| 11 | AWALT vs NAWALT poll! | PrincePhillip1 | /r/MGTOW | 09/12/17 03:55 PM |
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| 1 | Skateboarding is childish...Understanding basic logic is needed for a proper discussion. | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 07:06 PM |
| 5 | Skateboarding is childish...Playing hide and seek also takes skill and you exercise while doing it. | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 06:45 PM |
| 0 | ANOTHER teacher impregnated by 13yo BOY!"She said at first he was rude..But their interactions picked up in the fall..Vera described for police a period of flirting that she claims she initially resisted..The teacher said she became worried, so she sent him a message on Instagram"~(Fwent threadAll Men Who Lose A Debate Are Like That I asked you a very simple question: what criteria do you use in order to determine who is to have sex with whom. Your replies? "You're a troll! What I say is so obvious that I'm so obviously right and you're so obviously wrong and also you're a troll!" I didn't ask you whether your position is right or wrong, I asked you, are you intellectually able to back up your position. Your answer was "no, but I'm able to insult people in self defense because that's … | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Skateboarding is childish...Children/kids are far more likely to do it than adults, that would be simplistic explanation. | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 04:25 PM |
| 0 | ANOTHER teacher impregnated by 13yo BOY!"She said at first he was rude..But their interactions picked up in the fall..Vera described for police a period of flirting that she claims she initially resisted..The teacher said she became worried, so she sent him a message on Instagram"~(Fwent threadAnd we've reached for the conclusion, when you finally had to admit the complete defeat because you realized you can't backup your viewpoint with an argument. From my experience on reddit, when people ask me "are you trolling" it's when they're unable to refute anything I say but they don't like how my viewpoint sounds. That puts them in an uncomfortable position where they have to choose between accepting "I'm ignorant / intellectually inferior" and "it's the other guy trolling". And trolling r… | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 04:14 PM |
| 0 | ANOTHER teacher impregnated by 13yo BOY!"She said at first he was rude..But their interactions picked up in the fall..Vera described for police a period of flirting that she claims she initially resisted..The teacher said she became worried, so she sent him a message on Instagram"~(Fwent threadWhat do you mean by 13yr old unable to physically deal with the consequences of sex? And as for financially unable to deal with the consequences of the sexual act, are you saying poor people should not be allowed to have sex? What is a prerequisite for valid consent according to you? Now if you are still confused as to why society wont condone adults having sex with kids, then I'd suggest seeking mental help. I consider your argumentum ad hominem to be an admission of defeat in this debate. If y… | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 03:53 PM |
| 7 | Skateboarding is childish...But it is childish. And so is wearing a cat hoodie, which I see women do more and more. I think a more healthy approach is just accepting that occasionally being a bit childish is fine. If a woman wants to see you in a suit all the time she won't like you skateboarding. That's her preference, nothing wrong with it. Find someone more compatible. | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 03:45 PM |
| 2 | ANOTHER teacher impregnated by 13yo BOY!"She said at first he was rude..But their interactions picked up in the fall..Vera described for police a period of flirting that she claims she initially resisted..The teacher said she became worried, so she sent him a message on Instagram"~(Fwent threadYes, I do need a dissertation why because legal is not a synonym for right and wrong. I take your reply as an admission of defeat in a debate. It's also funny how you consider yourself a MGTOW and use the approach of legality. How about I say "it's good for a woman to take your stuff after divorce and as much as she can because you see, it's legal, so stop whining and writing dissertations in protest and accept the legal point of view". I didn't ask you for a legal opinion, I asked you to explai… | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 03:37 PM |
| 2 | ANOTHER teacher impregnated by 13yo BOY!"She said at first he was rude..But their interactions picked up in the fall..Vera described for police a period of flirting that she claims she initially resisted..The teacher said she became worried, so she sent him a message on Instagram"~(Fwent threadWhy is that? I'm just curious what kind of criteria you're using in determining who is to have sex and who isn't. Because physically speaking that 13yr old boy is mature enough. Emotionally speaking, he is obviously not at the level of a 25yr old, but if you say that emotionally immature people should not be allowed to have sex then a huge portion of adult humanity should not have sex, especially those of lower IQ. So let's say 10% of white male adults should not have sex because of emotional im… | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 03:23 PM |
| 5 | Post wall 37 year old regrets rejecting the "nice-guy".I stopped at "I'm a hopeless romantic". That's a red flag for me. | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 01:46 PM |
| 2 | ANOTHER teacher impregnated by 13yo BOY!"She said at first he was rude..But their interactions picked up in the fall..Vera described for police a period of flirting that she claims she initially resisted..The teacher said she became worried, so she sent him a message on Instagram"~(Fwent threadHe was lucky to have sexual activities with her. He was unlucky and irresponsible to get her pregnant (well, both of them). They should've limited their activities to non-penetration sexual stuff. | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 01:34 PM |
| 1 | ANOTHER teacher impregnated by 13yo BOY!"She said at first he was rude..But their interactions picked up in the fall..Vera described for police a period of flirting that she claims she initially resisted..The teacher said she became worried, so she sent him a message on Instagram"~(Fwent threadShe's cute. I would do sexual activities with her as well at 13yrs of age. Just not sex itself (penetration) because of the risk of pregnancy and all that stuff. | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/17 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Boyfriend gets stationed, girlfriend does porn.US troops are criminals who serve war criminal presidents for criminal purposes. Those tales of glory and honor that the US population is regularly indoctrinated with have nothing to do with the reality. A virtuous person has nothing to do in US military, and I don't know why everyone is surprised that women with no morality marry US soldiers. Birds of a feather flock together. | /r/MGTOW | 09/12/17 03:53 PM |
| -2 | Boyfriend gets stationed, girlfriend does porn.I'm sorry but how is this girl worse than this guy? Yea, cheating is wrong. But hold on, this guy's job is to indiscriminately kill people, when ordered to so so by war criminals such as Trump, Obama, or, well, just about any American president. He is a tool that the US war machine uses to bully other countries into submission, in order to preserve the economic prosperity that would otherwise disappear (and is disappearing regardless). His job is entirely unethical, consisting of killing in many… | /r/MGTOW | 09/12/17 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Hiring A Maid...You should've told her that you also need a 'second' (like in duels) in case she falsely accused you of sexual harassment. And then still agree not to hire her. | /r/MGTOW | 08/12/17 11:17 AM |
| 0 | New HereThen take the red pill and read the statistics for yourself. Red pill isn't just for feminists, it's for everyone who denies reality because it's not pleasant for him. | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 09:55 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW brothers, help me make the right decisionDestruction can also be logical. | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 09:54 PM |
| 0 | MGTOW brothers, help me make the right decisionSince you already got this far.. Contact the other guy and then both of you contact her new boyfriend via email or something. Best to do it in such a way that you leave him with a story which he can then choose to read or not read, believe in or not, act upon or not. Am I better off forgetting about it No, because what you were doing so far obviously didn't work, you seem to need some kind of closure so just contact the new guy and let it off your chest, then move on with your life. | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 09:53 PM |
| -2 | New HereThey offer stuff in return, which is proven in the fact that married people are on average happier than singles. | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 09:33 PM |
| 2 | New HereAnd the moral of the story is, don't marry for looks alone. | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 09:32 PM |
| 2 | New HereI told her I loved her 9001 times everyday A huge red flag. It signals that you're too needy, too emotional, and possibly empty. That's when I realized that most women are shit. After one relationship that didn't go well, to whose downfall you contributed with your own imperfections (such as the above mentioned, or porn addiction)? (I don't actually disagree with you, most women are shit, but most men are shit also.) I was raised with the belief that women=success. The more you got, the more suc… | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 09:30 PM |
| 1 | There’s no benefit for a man to get married. Period.Well, the benefit is that the person is less likely to leave you, and also there are some legal benefits to marriage (lower taxes maybe) although this depends on the country you're in. | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 05:47 PM |
| 8 | The naked truth about toleranceTo be fair, he probably couldn't post it anywhere else on reddit. It would be instant ban. | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 05:43 PM |
| 1 | We live in a fucking satireYou don't understand. Yes, I do. And I repeat, you have superificial and childish view of Trump that is copy/paste of what mainstream media is writing of him. Your flaw is your flaw, not Trump's. When people see Trump What people? You seem to think this is some kind of popularity contest. And even if it was, I already told you that people in China and Russia, as well as Israel, have totally different view of Trump than you do. So all the countries that are somewhat sane, while all the insane cou… | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 05:40 PM |
| 1 | We live in a fucking satireAh I see what the issue is. You believe that people like Milo destroy their reputation and the reputation of people they associate with, but war criminals and evil people, they're fine, I mean, you don't like them, but you respect them as long as they speak nicely and wear a suit and act seriously. I kinda get it, you're a guy who is into appearances. You're like those who think that a "spiritual" person is the one that never curses, dresses according to a dress code, is vegetarian, and chants p… | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 03:19 PM |
| 2 | We live in a fucking satireAs opposed to whom? What ruler is better than Trump? You have Putin, Xi Jinping, Orban, the Czech president maybe.. Thats pretty much it off the top of my head, as far as positive examples go. So Trump is better than almost any American politician, better than almost any western politician who is in power. And you say he is destroying global standing. Compared to whom? And with what? Im not saying he is perfect, but you seem to imply that other politicians dont ruin global standing. How so? Trum… | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 02:57 PM |
| 9 | The west has become a very cold place compared to the 90’sKarma for what? Colonialism is scientifically proven to bring more benefits than drawbacks. Multiculturalism doesnt work and never has. But white male rulling an African country produced 10x better results. | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 02:29 PM |
| 0 | We live in a fucking satireWhile I prefer Trump over Clinton or Obama, I really dislike the delusional mythical approach of "economy improving" or "we defeated ISIS". Thats the kind of fictional thinking that is characteristic of the left, and the right should avoid it. | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 02:13 PM |
| 1 | We live in a fucking satireConsidering that China and Russia are the good guys, thats a compliment for Trump. Every sane person I know prefers Trump over Clinton or Obama. In fact, I use that as a test to quickly find out whether a person is evil or maybe not. | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 02:08 PM |
| 8 | We live in a fucking satireObama doubled US debt. What are you talking about? | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 02:06 PM |
| 10 | We live in a fucking satireOnly? ISIS was constantly losing before Trump even got elected and all the major events happened before that, while the US was arming ISIS. The rest was cleanup. The US started to arm the Kurds then because there was no more point in arming ISIS. And building military infrastructure for US military on Kurd controlled territory. Because Kurds can cause further strife, ISIS cant. Why cant you Americans accept that Russia and Syria did all the work? ALL the work. But no, its Rambo Trump. He defeate… | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 02:03 PM |
| 44 | If I were to buy a sex robot, maybe I don't want it to talk too much.Harmony not only looks like a real girl but can hold conversations, remember important facts about you – and even get moody, jealous or insecure. Moody, jealous and insecure? Why would I buy that? Or do I need to purchase a full version / premium and then they remove these defects? | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 12:28 AM |
| 6 | It seems like men avoiding women and not wanting to be around them.That's because both genders prefer evil dogs now. I don't see many couples either anymore but sure as hell everyone has a dog. | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 12:19 AM |
| -7 | It seems like men avoiding women and not wanting to be around them.I'm not convinced. Yea, she could be staring at her mobile phone. JUST iike men around her. Maybe she's checking Tinder. JUST like men. Some men gave up on women. JUST like women who don't care about men and would prefer to see a world without men at all. As far as I'm concerned a feminist is a woman by definition not interested in a man. She's interested maybe in money, her social status, kids, promoting the idea of egalitarianism and so on. Look how many feminists are out there. Is the number … | /r/MGTOW | 07/12/17 12:05 AM |
| 1 | How do I isolate myself from the nagging losers all around?What works for me in general is creating my own mini-universe, dragging someone in, and then controlling the narrative. Let's say you're at a social event you don't particularly like. Scan around. Find someone to talk to. About those topics you're interested in. Ignore others. As soon as more people gather the lowest common denominator kicks in and topics will switch to something idiotic, or maybe the topic will be ok but people will dumb it down to ridiculous level that isn't worth participatin… | /r/MGTOW | 06/12/17 08:31 PM |
| 10 | I'm going back in guys. Wish me luck.Hey now, someone has to be a beta. Otherwise the term would lose the meaning ;) | /r/MGTOW | 06/12/17 08:18 PM |
| -1 | MGTOW I am red pilled but I want to be in a relationshipThat's right. If you're a unicorn find another unicorn and all is well. If you're not a unicorn and you miraculously find a unicorn, be a slave because that's much better than being cynical and hateful, and watching porn. | /r/MGTOW | 06/12/17 09:35 AM |
| -9 | MGTOW I am red pilled but I want to be in a relationshipYou didn't take the red pill. You woke up from one dream into another. If you see women as bad and men as good you're still in an illusion. Take the red pill, find the girl around your own level, and then devote yourself to her without reservation. MTGOW only when you don't want to take chances which aren't that great at the moment. But if you are taking chances, do it properly and treat her as best as you can. | /r/MGTOW | 06/12/17 12:46 AM |
| 5 | Here's a little Challenge for MGTOW! especially GoT fans: How much of this article can you read without face palming?What is GoT? ..and the answer is: fictional story written by a feminist in which the strongest woman beats the strongest man | /r/MGTOW | 05/12/17 09:55 PM |
| 1 | I respect Jordan Peterson, but fuck if this doesn't validate MGTOW.The moral of the story is, MGTOW is not necessary if you can reform the woman. | /r/MGTOW | 05/12/17 09:34 PM |
| 1 | I fucked up. Stuck it in crazy when I knew better. Don't make my mistake, DO NOT IGNORE RED FLAGSWHEN YOU'RE DRUNK So the moral of this story is that men are drunkards and women are crazy? As in, pick your poison? | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 09:53 PM |
| 12 | Am I mistaken, or was there a time when cheating was wrong?I noticed that too but if you look around it's the same with pretty much all values. We're living in a morally relativistic society. | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 07:59 PM |
| 2 | 'Our business is men, and men are not toxic': Colorado strip club sign raises ire | US newsIts like asking why people watch Twitch when they could play.. | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Stop assuming every male is a saint and every femoid is a heathenNo one is disputing that. The point is, femininity isnt Islam (which is rotten to the core). The problem is toxic femininity (in both women and men) thats running rampant since the French revolution. In fact, every man who is egalitarian is infected to a certain degree. That means if youre for socialism, democracy, affirmative action, and so on - youre a part of the problem. Feminism is the same thing as all that, just apllied to the sphere of genders. So yeah, I dont buy any of this "men are fi… | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Stop assuming every male is a saint and every femoid is a heathenLike North Korea? :) | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Stop assuming every male is a saint and every femoid is a heathenRight, I just said that in a previous post. It seems that theres a war mentality present. The other side is dehumanized and individuals dont exist. Everyone in the enemy group is bad. | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 02:48 PM |
| 6 | People who never marry have a 42% higher risk of developing dementiaIts not bs. Religious people are happier than atheists and married people happier than singles. But think of this. For every MGTOW who is happier alone (and not all are) theres a woman who is miserable because shes single. Lets say youre 10% happier.. Well if a single woman is 30% less happy guess what the average is. | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 01:34 PM |
| -6 | "If you can't afford an expensive ring, don't marry"The title is incomlete. "..dont marry a gold digger." There you go. Plenty of NAWALTs out there. Well, maybe not in the US but certainly here in Europe. | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 12:45 PM |
| 1 | I Hate Perfectionism: Doing My Own Thing Is Much BetterWhat you wrote is just more nonsense. Its like you have your own private dictionary. I suppose thats the alternative to perfectionism - verbal chaos. | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 12:42 PM |
| 1 | I Hate Perfectionism: Doing My Own Thing Is Much BetterThats not what perfectionism is. Youre describing FORMALITY and RIGIDITY. Perfectionism is great. Whats the alternative, mediocritism? | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 12:00 PM |
| 1 | Opinions on fraternities/sororities?Yeah, jocks. Or whoever the cheerleaders typically date in movies and series :) | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 11:44 AM |
| 9 | Opinions on fraternities/sororities?I'm a European. We don't have these here. When I saw fraternities (as a kid) in American movies at first I thought it's a joke. Because it looked like a joke. A sort of Hollywood invention. You know, like 30yr+ actors posing as high school students. Then later I realized it's for real. My view as an outside observer is extremely negative. I have not seen or heard anything I would classify as positive, whereas I've seen plenty that I see as negative. I have to add though that I'm not into social … | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 08:29 AM |
| 1 | How many under 30 guys are involuntary dateless?This means if you fail to go along with the group in committing the atrocities, you yourself could be killed or seriously harmed by the group. There is no comparison to women's behavior and choices in modern society where they are making their choices and decisions free of this group dynamic Wait are you serious? Alright, so as a male you're unaware of some gender differences. One such being that women are VERY susceptible to peer pressure and peer opinion. They conform. If some women don't conv… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 09:38 PM |
| 1 | How many under 30 guys are involuntary dateless?Comparing women's behavior in a society where they are free to behave as individuals without consequence, and men's behavior in war conditions under hierarchical group dynamics is not valid. Err, so what's the difference? I'm not sure what you're saying here. That in a civilized society in peace time there is no hierarchy? You don't have a boss when you go to work, a teacher in school? Peers? Parents? And are you saying in war time all rapists and pillagers are ordered to do so and so they can't… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 08:57 PM |
| 1 | How many under 30 guys are involuntary dateless?All the state/society did was allow them to manifest their true natures without consequence. I don't see how men fare better. You put men into a war situation, where they can do anything without consequences. And suddenly tons of them pillage, rape, torture, kill indiscriminately and what not. And I don't mean some backwards tribe in the middle of nowhere. Just look at what the Japanese were doing in the last century. And they're pretty advanced people. It didn't matter, you put them into a no-c… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 08:21 PM |
| 1 | How many under 30 guys are involuntary dateless?Considering how today's job market is, more and more people in the West are on some kind of welfare. I'm not personally on welfare, but consider this European statistic: youth unemployment in Italy is at 39% (under the age of 25). So let's say you're a young man in Italy looking for a date. You can say "all you people suck" and search for someone employed. Your chances are at the very start cut in half. I don't know how exactly it is in the US (although the real unemployment there is higher and … | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 08:16 PM |
| 1 | How many under 30 guys are involuntary dateless?And even if he's ugly he can find a date if he has money. Some women will date men regardless of who they are, as long as they have enough money. On the other hand, some girls (younger population) will date a guy who is charming even if he's lacking in other areas. You have to have something going for you, that's just how it is. It's probably even tougher for ugly girls. You can be smart, but you're going to be friendzoned if ugly. | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 07:54 PM |
| 3 | How many under 30 guys are involuntary dateless?Right, but swiping to the "wrong" side on Tinder is much different than not dating anyone but those 20%. Their standards are ridiculous. That's because the society convinced them they're perfect and just need to find a perfect man. Also because the state is their parent; if they don't find a man they will just get welfare from the state, one way or another. If they're pregnant, the don't need a man to help, the state arranged it so they get payed leave, are not allowed to be fired during certain… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 07:51 PM |
| 3 | Men's standard of living goes up 10% post-divorce...Bettina Arndt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rjLrJfX5Vk The sound is bad in that video though, if you don't have patience just focus on min 13-18, where she speaks about that. And min 20:20. I warmly recommend these two of her videos as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGbM1C_kJIc (with Karen Straughan) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-5Pmry8rVk (at conference, about male female sex desire disparity) | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 07:40 PM |
| 3 | I'm so sick of all the 'female empowerment' and cucking in movies nowadays [Spoiler warning for Valerian 2017]Likable "strong female" characters: Vasquez from Aliens movie, and Seven of Nine from Voyager (Janeway actress hated Jeri Ryan and couldn't stand that Voyager is not a feminist show that she runs). | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 07:12 PM |
| -1 | I'm so sick of all the 'female empowerment' and cucking in movies nowadays [Spoiler warning for Valerian 2017]Wow, do you even know what that means? I contradicted you and your attempt of trashing women for any reason, on a MGTOW subreddit, and you're telling me I'm virtue signalling? What you tried to say is that I'm promoting morality, while you're promoting immorality. That's true, yes. But I don't feel guilty for promoting morality while you're blaming women for refusing to marry a nazi camp guard. | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 06:58 PM |
| -1 | I'm so sick of all the 'female empowerment' and cucking in movies nowadays [Spoiler warning for Valerian 2017]It's a regrettable reality of life that when the chips are down everybody picks themselves. If that's monstrous we're all monsters. No, we're not. There are a lot of people who sacrifice their benefit for others. You can't just say "I might be a monster but then so is everyone else". That sounds just like a slut saying "well sure, I am, but all girls are so..". Valerian would never have manipulated her the way she did him. How is that manipulation? Is she not supposed to have a criteria for marr… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 06:21 PM |
| 14 | Men's standard of living goes up 10% post-divorce...why do women initiate 70-80% of divorces? Because they think the grass is greener on the other side. They want to trade up. Women live in a fantasy world. And Hollywood and media feed to them what they want to hear. I've been watching few YouTube videos of a woman who helps other older women get a partner. And that matchmaking lady is often going insane because her female clients are totally unaware of the gap between what they're offering and what they're asking for. And the worst thing about i… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 03:59 PM |
| 2 | I got muted from r/relationships for using gendered slursYou get banned for everything on that subreddit and I assume from reddit in general. The worst thing about that is, people come to r/relationships seeking advice. But they only receive one-sided advice and feedback because different opinion gets you instantly banned. And people who are not aware of that because they're new to reddit get totally biased and practically useless feedback. Possibly harmful if they act on that advice. It's like the Cardassian justice system. You're already guilty; the… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 02:53 PM |
| 3 | Men are supposedly still in Control of society, so why are they letting this metoo witch hunt go so out of control?Men are supposedly still in Control of society No, they aren't, and haven't been in a long time (for decades). Female principles rule supreme just about everywhere. Government policy, school system, media, Hollywood and so on. The fact that a biological male is in charge in some cases makes no difference if that person is feminized. It's not about biological gender, it's about male and female traits. What do you think would exactly happen if real men in Europe were faced with jihadist invasion? … | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Women Look Like Absolute Dogshit Once You Wipe The Fakeup Off.They look better with make up off, except for one, and except for those who look bad regardless. In general, pretty women look prettier and cuter without make-up. | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 02:29 PM |
| -1 | I'm so sick of all the 'female empowerment' and cucking in movies nowadays [Spoiler warning for Valerian 2017]threatens to not marry our main guy if he doesn't do something illegal for her. She tells him he doesn't love her if he won't do it and that he needs to trust her and he caves -- gives up his own principles because a woman manipulated him into having her way. His principles were bad, that's the problem, not the girl. Valerian was acting like Nazi-socialist prison camp guard, and you seem to be in the same mindset. If it's legal it's good, if it's illegal it's bad. Err, no. His girlfriend refused… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 02:18 PM |
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