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he said that she was offended by my "unsolicited offer" to come over and clean their house and take care of their kids while they went out and had a date. I wonder if it could be the "clean the house" comment? While I'm sure you were just offering to help, some people, especially SAHM might interpret that as you saying their house is dirty, or she is failing as a home-maker.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/24 10:14 PM
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I "jumped" to it because it was said in their own words, in their own communities long before incels were even known by the mainstream. The argument, point blank, was that sex is a need for people, that not having sex leads to serious harms and side effects that are ignored by the larger medical and mental health community and that it is not something people should have to pay for in order to access. Denying what incels said in their community doesn't make it not so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 02:46 AM
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It connects to feminist theory that men feel they are owed sex because of patriarchy. Not when it is their explicit stance stated in their own community that sex is not something they should have to pay in order to access. Feminism had nothing to do with the early incel movement. There are certainly incels who believe that sexual access is like some societal rights. But oftentimes this talking point is used to distance them as dangerous instead of understanding them. Incels were not seen as "dan…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 02:43 AM
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Incels do not believe in paying for sex. That is why multiple incels, including Eliot Rodgers, refused prostitution as a means to access sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/24 01:12 AM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that we as a culture broadly do not see prostitution as a replacement for "real sex", whether that's romantic/love sex or casual sex. I agree. Even where sex work is easy to access, it's not like the community seems to be opting for brothels over Tinder. In addition, sex is often an important component of long-term relationships so you're not likely to separate the pursuit of sex from the pursuit of love anyway. They're often intertwined. I'd also a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/24 03:06 AM
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If only there were places where prostitution was legal so we could see these improvements in real time! Oh wait, there already are. Prostitution was legal for much of human history, it's legal in several places today and even where it's illegal, it's easy to access and prosecution rates are low. All the social ills it's supposed to magically fix did still exist and do still exist today. I'm all for legalizing sex work but this fantasy where it will solve gender relations, reduces sex crimes, imp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/24 02:59 AM
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Recognizing that white women were often more historically privileged than men of color is part of mens rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/24 08:17 PM
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This video explores the history of a recently discovered portrait, one of the only ones to depict a black slave with the family. And part of discovering the history of the family portrait implies pretty heavily that the white wife is the one who had him sold off and erased from the original painting as soon as her husband died.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/24 08:15 PM
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TwoX had a whole "debate" about whether white women really ever did play a role in falsely accusing and oppressing black men in history. When a black woman responded talking about Emmett Till, the white woman responded that this was just an anecdote and not a scholarly source. When the black woman responded by posting a novel by a black researcher, chronicling the history of white women falsely accusing black men, she once again said this is a book of anecdotes and not actual rates or statistics…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/24 08:11 PM
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It's not just a moral failing to some people. It's pathetic, deserving of mockery, and funny. Whereas if a woman feels insecure the man needs to think about what he did to cause it or what he's not doing to alleviate it. They coddle women and treat men like they are disposable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/24 01:32 AM
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Not many say that women need to be slaves. A lot of them say that it is the duty of a woman to submit to her husband. Grow up evangelical and you hear it a lot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/21 02:30 AM
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How large is the gender pay gap when controlling for the same job position? I'm pretty sure the gender pay gap is only large because women makeup 2/3 of the part-time workforce and do considerably less overtime than men. We are not making less money doing the same hours of work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/21 02:22 AM
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What does that have to do with anything?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/21 11:36 PM
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In abstinence-only classes? Absolutely not. If they mention it at all it is usually built into the curriculum to tell students that contraception doesn't work. They have literally defended their right to lie in abstinence-only courses for the express purpose of deterring sex. Only 13 states require sex ed to be medically accurate
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 02:12 AM
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I think the problem is that fundamentalist evangelicals believe: That abortion is murder and kills a living soul That premarital sex is a sin and should not be encouraged That most hormonal birth control can cause abortion and is therefore murder This is why they do not support sex education, access to contraception or abortion. In their mind contraception and abortion are oftentimes the same thing and sex education is constantly fear-mongered in those communities as grooming kids to have sex. T…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 02:06 AM
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I am with you on the fatigue on this one. I read one thread where a woman was going on and on about how the patriarchy has caused pro-life women to vote "against their best interests" due to internalized misogyny. A lot of pro-lifers just see abortion as murder. I could get richer if we legalized theft, but I wouldn't vote to do that because it will harm another person. Is that "voting against my best interest?" The same applies to pro-lifers. They won't legalize abortion because they see it as …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/21 02:01 AM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45284455
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/21 12:21 AM
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Well the argument made to me specifically was that men should be able to choose whatever woman they want to marry and she shouldn't have any say in the matter. This was for the express purpose of ensuring that every man can have a wife of his choosing because currently women are too picky.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/21 12:20 AM
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It depends on the forum and setting. Some of them are pretty tame and normal, discussing the setbacks of living without intimate relationships. Some of them are genuinely filled to the brim with hate, advocating that all sexually active women be subject to corrective rape and just frothing at the mouth with hatred. Some advocate for a return to arranged marriages. It just depends on the person and which forum they are using to discuss. Notably, the whole incel movement was started by a woman, wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/21 12:20 AM
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The few times I have been called a "pick me" for advocating for men I've managed to shut it down pretty quick. The first time was on a highly feminist subreddit where someone called me a pick me. I responded by saying that as a victim of emotional abuse from my ex and sexual assault, I started taking an interest in men's issues when I realized that men had comparatively few resources in comparison to me. And I want all victims to have access to resources. They downvoted the person who insulted m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 11:07 PM
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I'm likely to agree with your take. Maybe a men's only section would even become a safe space for gay men or something of that nature, who knows? It's much more taboo to be a gay man in India and I could see them becoming unofficial safe spaces. At worst it's just creating a space on principle to keep things equal. I can't think of many. I guess the largest benefit may be that men tend to on average, have more benefit from casual sex and hookups. On average men (not all) are more likely to orgas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 11:59 PM
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I agree, women can take less initiative even to go to a bar and club and still find a partner. I do think it is a little more complex than that. I think the problem is both that men are expected to be pursuers in relationships and that women who are more forward (especially when seeking casual sex and not a relationship) are seen as sluts and shamed for it. We are doing disproportionate work to address slut-shaming whilst not saving the same energy to address men being expected to pursue. And we…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 11:53 PM
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I think this is a good question because there are plenty of situations where the genders are treated differently based on real or perceived necessity. And in which situations do we support it? I know that in some areas of India, the harassment and groping of women on public transportation is so bad that some now have a closed-off space for female passengers to sit to keep them safe. A lot of the women there are deeply grateful for this implementation because they now feel safe traveling on publi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 10:25 PM
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Too drunk to consent laws exist but in reality, they are very hard to prosecute and only apply when someone is unconscious due to voluntary alcohol consumption or if they are so out of it that they are not aware of what is happening. There are a lot of factors taken into account. This is a prosecutorial guide for trying too drunk to consent cases if anyone is interested. Prosecuting alcohol facilitated sexual assault In the past, there was a huge bias against rape victims who were victimized whi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/21 03:27 AM
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I think it can be both. I went into a male dominated profession and am treated very well by my coworkers. But my older female coworker had to leave the former agency she worked at (I think this was around the 80s or 90s) because they were so hostile to women and did not believe women should be in the career. Someone else confirmed for me that this was true. Yes, a lot of women didn't try to go into certain industries. But there definitely were women who did want to and who did face discriminatio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/21 04:51 AM
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and when called on it they'll retreat to the motte by insisting that they only meant Y: a comparatively defensible and uncontroversial statement or position. Precisely. In any other context it would be called a dog whistle but instead they make sweeping generazations about groups of people and then say "well of course not all men". They push all sorts of questionable beliefs and exclude people from their movement for not believing in said questionable beliefs such as patriarchy theory I remember…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/21 04:40 AM
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Sex with underage children or animals. Rape fantasies and role-playing are fine but actually raping someone is not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/21 04:54 PM
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I don't agree. I think tastes are fine as long as they involve legal adults but there are certain interests that should be managed rather than indulged and certain types of illegal pornography that should not be consumed. And while it's legal in some places I also very much disagree with revenge porn websites where people doxx the names and addresses of their exes and post their nudes without consent. If you go to revenge porn websites you should feel ashamed of yourself. As long as everything i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/21 04:35 PM
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Yep as well as paper abortion
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 09:06 PM
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I mean I ran a small group that was for feminists and MRA's who wanted to build a platform for equality. There were about as many feminists as MRA's in the group and we all managed to organize and have productive discussions. That doesn't mean there weren't people who tried to fear-monger about us but it didn't work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 07:27 PM
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Well if thats the case they sure don't follow it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/21 01:28 AM
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I think I understand better now. We have different ways of how we utilize the word "respectable" but it seems the overall understanding, that they are doing something with a lot of drive and ambition is the same. Perhaps it's unpopular, but I am of the opinion that if someone reaches the point where they hate a group of people based on their immutable characteristics (gender, sexual orientation, race, etc) then they forfeit their "rights" to empathy, compassion and kindness. I don't think all fe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/21 08:24 AM
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I don't know that this has been true in my experience. I've found it's possible to have productive conversations about men's issues with feminists by being civil and speaking to their perspective and understanding. I managed to explain the validity behind criticism of female hypergamy on a feminist majority subreddit very recently. On another feminist majority subreddit, someone gave me a hard time for posting here and accused me of being a "pick me." I responded with why I have taken an interes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/21 07:15 AM
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In a perfect world you should be able to drink and no one rape you, but guess what ? we are not in a perfect world. we should start teaching women to stop acting like children. telling people "rape is bad" won't make rapists stop raping people. I guess I can see how that may have been your intention. I don't think it was worded very clearly though and I can see how people, myself evidently included, interpreted that sentence differently. "In a perfect world we should teach women to stop acting l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/21 02:26 AM
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I think it's really lame that they went into your post history in an attempt to smear your message. But I do feel like the issue is less that people oppose a charity for men, and more so that people didn't like your post history and were refusing to engage on those grounds. The fairness and applicability of their objections can be questioned but presenting this like it was simply the charitable organization that led to their reactions doesn't seem to be accurately portraying the whole truth. You…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/21 11:50 PM
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I don't really see anything respectable about it. Maybe driven or savage but respect doesn't really enter the situation. Anyone could adopt the language of a social movement in order to try and get laid. Pretend to care about abused animals so girls will like you. Pretend to have empathy for rape victims in order to gain their trust and date them. Pretend to be a recovering addict to take advantage of vulnerable men/women in recovery groups. It goes back to the old stereotype of meeting women at…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/21 06:36 PM
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There are aspects of women's rights advocacy that I take part in and support. It's not an either/or to me. If women need help in one area I help. If men need help in one area I also help. It was the feminists who tended to gatekeep and say I'm a chauvinist if I support men's rights, not the MRA's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/21 06:19 PM
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Remember that mod from (I think it was) menslib who came here and trolled by posting the most racist and misogynistic things imaginable while trying to parody us? 😄 Some of the things he said were so vile and malicious in the way he spoke about women I had a hard time believing this was all parody to him and not something he has said before, maybe in private spaces. Watching him prune and preen over on on his "feminist" sub and then come here and spew that filth was infuriating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/21 06:16 PM
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I may have experienced more condescending statements and sexism from male feminists than from male MRA's lol. There are sexists in alt-right MRA circles but since I avoid those areas I tend to meet a lot of normal or liberal MRA's who treat me with respect. And if they are disrespectful its usually just based on a disagreement, not attacking me for being a woman. Meanwhile, the way some male feminists have spoken to me is horrific. One of them decided that the best way to convince me that MRA's …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/21 05:44 PM
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They do sometimes get charged but feminist groups always scream about it. I remember in one case a woman was with an abusive man (and he did abuse her too, no denying that) but he got mad at her toddler for wetting his diaper and beat the poor toddler black and blue. Scared, the mom grabbed her kids and attempted to run from the house. He ripped the toddler out of her arms at the last second, locked the door and all she could do was stand and scream outside while he murdered her child on the oth…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/21 11:10 PM
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No one forced me to be a men's advocate throughout college. No one forced me to write papers on men's rights, reach out to men's groups or do anything that I did. I have years worth of men's rights advocacy and action under my belt. Documented. There are people here who can confirm it. What do you have to bring to the movement besides snark? I've been sexually assaulted and I will continue to stand up for BOTH male and female abuse and sexual violence victims as I have been for years. You will n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/21 10:41 PM
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Even 20 years ago it would probably be rare for women to get arrested for a domestic violence offence. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if they constitute nearly half of the DV arrests made in my Town. Investigations for the primary offender genuinely take into account that it could be the woman who was the primary aggressor and our biggest problem has been that male victims rarely call the police on their partners because think "the man always gets arrested" even though that isn't true. Female viol…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/21 04:31 PM
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I never realized how badly academia was influenced by feminism until I was getting my degree. I tried to study female domestic violence offenders only to realize we basically didn't have any research about it. And almost all the research we did have was through the lens of feminist theory, that domestic violence is a tool of the patriarchy used by men to oppress women. The few brave researchers who found parity in the rates were slammed as misogynists and their results concealed. Then when I res…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/21 04:23 PM
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No? It's not an either or situation. I can acknowledge that women and men both faced hardships in human history.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/21 04:13 PM
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BuT fEmInIsM hElPs mEn ToO
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/21 02:21 PM
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Well the discussion centers around how women perform emotional labor in the home by being the ones to mentally manage the household. They keep a mental checklist of what needs to be done, what groceries are running low, what appointments there are, etc while men traditionally did not. The point is some people think that simply helping when asked to constitutes sharing the household chores and pulling their weight. The point is that instead of having to ask what their wife needs help with, being …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 11:50 PM
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I see what you are saying but I think the emotional repression that is expected of men is kind of the opposite of the nurturing nature that is expected of women. Though in the case I was specifically referring to emotional labor refers to necessities of running the household, like instead of having to be asked to help with certain things around the house it is seeing what needs to be done and taking the initiative to do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 10:56 PM
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Outside of feminists I have never met anyone who has referred to "the patriarchy", male or female.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 09:43 PM
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Research does generally support that women are much less likely to date bi men, so that there is a significant reaction here is not a surprise. A lot of work was done to try and change female gender roles and how women are treated and perceived by men. It's now (for the most part) frowned upon to expect a woman to remain in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant. And there's also a huge discourse around making sure men do their part in both sharing the household chores and emotional labor rather than…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/21 09:41 PM
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More than likely it's not. I'm not sure of very many matriarchal societies to compare them to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 07:06 PM
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How can we effectively discuss men's rights while ignoring intersectionality? I don't really see why male suffering precludes that there were patriachies in the past. Powerful people tend to want to make things better for themselves, not necessarily better for everyone who is like them. If a ruler sends men to die in a war does that mean that the ruler isn't powerful? I don't think so. He protects his position while using men to do so. That doesn't mean that he can't also harm women's rights in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 02:53 PM
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Enlighten me then.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 02:42 PM
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I don't know that that is necessarily true. Such would require that all men would be considered equal. White male landowners still discriminated against black men. They still massacred Native Americans. We have had various times in our history where major world events led to distrust of minority groups. Japanese internment camps for example. And gay men have been oppressed in society as well. Patriarchy theory upholds that some men control power at the top. It doesn't say that those powerful men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/21 02:39 PM
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Does Quora count as a radical feminist space? I've had some lovely discussions with feminists on there about men's rights and gender equality. There are definitely some who I would consider on the more radical side. I wrote many college essays discussing men's rights as well in classes with very liberal professors. Still got A's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 06:21 AM
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We have research that indicates how beauty standards cause harm to young girls (and boys). That doesn't mean it is all men's fault as the beauty and porn industries often misrepresent their products as sexually appealing to the other gender even when they are not. But to deny that rigid beauty standards, constant sexualization from a very young age, and objectification doesn't harm anyone because they are supposed to somehow be immune to socialization is not an informed take. That's ignoring tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/21 05:09 AM
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I think there is always going to be an issue if you start from the idea that you are right in all ways and nothing that she believes or feels is valid. You notably are not asking how to understand why she feels the way she does or how to communicate about your disagreements in a productive way, you are asking how to convince your girlfriend that she is wrong, you are right about everything and her emotional reactions are invalid. That is a good way to end a relationship but not to navigate diffe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 03:54 PM
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The thread specifically selected for people with low empathy and probably high misandry. It's disgusting that they are given a platform to brag about being horrible. I'm glad they expose themselves though, too arrogant to see how awful their behavior is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/21 03:29 PM
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I never said it was wrong...I don't care either way. That is what I said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/21 01:39 PM
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I have seen discussions about redefining masculinity with positive traits in right wing MRA groups but also on men's lib and other left leaning groups. Not that they may not be restrictive in other ways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/21 10:36 PM
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I don't understand why you think this is an argument. I just stated, without any investment one way or the other, my observation that men tend to want to preserve masculinity and women tend not to have the same investment in preserving femininity. I don't care either way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/21 06:56 PM
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I agree with all of this, men are punished more harshly for stepping outside their gender role than women are. The only reason I bring this up is because I've found that while a lot of women want to completely do away with traditional femininity and place no value in it, a lot of men even in MRA circles do not want to eliminate standards of masculinity but rather find new ways to define masculinity in a positive light.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/21 06:24 PM
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I have seen some female empowerment type messages but they seemed to have less to do with being proud to be a woman and more to do with being proud to have overcome gender-based restrictions or obstacles that held them back. If anything I was always of the perception that men were the ones who placed more importance in having pride in their gender, to a degree I can't relate to. Men seem to have a lot more invested in their masculinity and the perception of their masculinity, whereas I don't car…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/21 09:50 PM
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The writer claims that not all men (sigh) are like Jeff Bezos, and that women criticizing men has made him “miserable.” He actually said discourse on the left has made him miserable, not that "women" make him miserable. His quote (emphasis mine): It's like, people genuinely feel disgust at me for being depressed over a * miserable lonely ass life, if you read a lot of leftist forums or dating spaces like r/dating or Purple Pill Debate; there's this air of real utter disgust towards men and our p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/21 04:42 AM
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Have we ever taken a demographic survey? It might be interesting to see how many users here aren't "straight white cis men' (not that there is anything wrong with that but the prevailing narrative being as it is, this argument will likely be used to dismiss us). It might be helpful to be able to point to a survey that shows how diverse the subreddit is. I also stand by my original suggestion (though I acknowledge the practical complexities of actually implementing it) of maybe having an offshoot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/21 12:14 AM
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During a particularly active time of my (internet) activism, I managed to disgruntle two separate groups. The first were some more extremist feminists on Quora who didn't like me advocating for men's rights and the second were red pillers. The first group was intentional, I wanted to bring awareness to men's issues and the failing of feminism to address them which naturally meant that some feminists were going to be "offended." The second group was due to a series of poor decisions made at 3 a.m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 11:18 PM
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They do overlap with the concept of masculinity and how men not wanting to be perceived as weak, will avoid these things as a result. De-stigmatizing these things and pushing back against the notion that seeing a therapist or going to a doctor is emasculating can help men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 10:58 PM
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Oh you don't need my approval. The difference is I understand that I'm one user in a large men's rights space and other people may have concerns or problems that I didn't think of. You are the one who presumes to declare certain men's issues illusions and tell me what I supposedly need to learn about this subreddit. So one would think that for someone who positions himself as such an authority he would have a coherent argument. That you do not is altogether more amusing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 10:50 PM
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I'm not sure how it could be an illusion. Research shows men are less likely to go to therapy because of perceived stigma. Research shows men are killing themselves at record numbers. Research shows a reason men die younger is because they are less likely to go to the doctor. These aren't perceived illusions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 10:10 PM
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Your arguments boil down to if someone disagrees with you then they are a feminist and now "think harder". You aren't actually adding anything to a discussion but needless attitude. Which tells me you don't have an argument. Good day and goodbye.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 09:32 PM
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I don't think that is what the original poster was referring to when saying abuse. But we can agree to disagree on that. I would need to see some research that shows that teasing is beneficial to child development. But even if it is that doesn't mean that all forms of teasing are beneficial. Being teased for not being masculine enough for instance doesn't sound like a form of teasing that will help development as much as just reinforce gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 09:03 PM
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The concept of gender was invented by misandrists? You're going to have to expand on that claim. Do I think that there is still work that needs to be done to help uplift men from traditional gender roles? Yes. Men who work with kids or even stay at home dads are often stigmatized as being dangerous to children. We need to remove this stigma that all men around children are pedophiles just like we removed the stigma that women who want to work outside the home are incompetent. Men who are victims…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 08:02 PM
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Being abused builds social skills and resilience? So you are pro-abuse of men and for some reason consider yourself a male advocate?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 07:48 PM
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What evidence do you expect for a difference of opinion? For me it's enough that many men have expressed feeling stigmatized for being masculine (toxic masculinity narratives) and shamed if they aren't traditionally masculine. I'm not one to tell them that their feelings are invalid and that their problems aren't real. Which is why I oppose rhetoric about masculinity being toxic and support men who choose alternative gender expressions. If you want to oppose or shame those men then I'd be intere…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 07:33 PM
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I don't have to learn anything. The questionable portion of your claim is that people who disagree with you are all feminists. In fact many people here (I've been here since the founding of this sub) are also of the opinion that masculinity has been stifled. And men who don't fit the traditional mold are often stigmatized in ways that women are not for stepping out of traditional feminine norms. This is something that can be worked on. You provide no refutation of those other than calling people…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 07:26 PM
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So your perception is that calling people who disagree with you delusional is a good faith argument? Clearly people still think there are strives that need to be made in normalizing more expressions of masculinity. You assert that most of those people are delusional feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 06:24 PM
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The point is that there is still progress to be made and it can be made.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 06:23 PM
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I think you greatly underestimate how common homophobia still is. We can't even teach comprehensive sex education in some schools because purity culture is still rife. Child free couples are still scorned, large groups still try to oppose hormonal birth control, many denominations still condemn gay people and transphobia is still rampant. Harry Styles created an uproar for modeling in a dress just recently. You can't just hand wave away all the ways that people are still being disenfranchised as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 06:11 PM
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Thank you for writing this out for me. It seems this poster operates entirely in bad faith and attempts to strawman or twist things to fit their agenda. The blatant twisting of OP's words to make it sound like he wanted his female friends to throw themselves in front of the abuse to protect him (when he really asked why they didn't call the police when they witnessed the abuse) is the most egregious example of this type of dishonesty. I wonder if I shared my own story of abuse and how I often co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 06:06 PM
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I don't see how it's not. Gender expectations (gender roles??) Have already changed exponentially. Women aren't limited to just domestic duties. Men aren't beholden to the same strict standards of chivalry as before. Gay men can exist openly in society. Men can have long hair. Women can wear undercuts. Men are being able to enter more careers that work with children. Women can join male dominated careers. More men are wearing nail polish or "guyliner", women can openly smoke and drink without it…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 05:08 PM
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I've shared my story and had people comment and tell me that the abuse was my fault or that I must have enjoyed being abused (he had a theory that women secretly enjoy domestic violence so we choose to date "jerks" on purpose). It always sucks when you open up about something painful and someone shows up to twist the knife. This commenter is a sad person with low compassion and an inflated sense of the relevancy of their opinion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 04:04 PM
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I can't read the images because they are too small. But if that is what they said then it sounds like this person just hates abuse victims in general. Abuse victims know that all they can do is leave? Have they read a single research paper on the cycle of abuse? What an ignorant person.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 04:00 PM
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It's not a feminist idea. It's public opinion and what is written in the law.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/21 05:11 PM
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I've been called a number of horrible things for advocating for paper abortions. I support paper abortions along with expansion to WIC programs and access to affordable daycare in impoverished areas. But apparently that makes me a misogynist. Someone recently told me they hope my (non existent) children suffer because I advocated this view. I think that child-support is an outdated model and failure to pay is all too common. This system isn't helping women or their children, it's just aimed at p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/21 09:24 PM
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Internet sleuths often think they are more talented than they are. In many cases they botch investigations and make it harder to prosecute cases (see to catch a predator style vigilantes). There have been some notable cases where internet sleuths have managed to catch offenders that the police did not. Most were notable animal cruelty cases where Reddit sleuths spent weeks pouring over animal torture videos to find identifying clues in the background and eventually managed to narrow down the loc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/21 06:10 PM
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Can you name a significant social movement that did not face opposition? Abolitionists were murdered, free black people lynched and terrorized by the KKK. De-segregation was met with response from the national guard and protests outside of schools. Gay youth were forced into conversion therapy, gay bars and night clubs were subject to police raids and today gay teens are still being put out on the streets by their own parents. Marriage equality was politically denied to them by Christian conserv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/21 01:59 AM
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Feminism did indeed win the governmental monopoly because they didn't have it in the first place. Feminism wasn't popular either when they wanted birth control for unmarried women in the 50s but they didn't allow the fact that they were unpopular and didn't have much political power defeat them. Mens rights can do it too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/21 06:46 PM
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That is true, it is difficult to participate. The participation I was offering was writing on our official website. For what it's worth your source did help me with an answer I just wrote about what men's rights activists have done. So thank you. https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-people-hate-men-s-rights-activists-They-mainly-fight-against-people-raping-men-and-from-men-getting-accused-with-no-evidence/answer/Lauren-Campbell-21
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/21 07:16 AM
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I don't hate feminism, I just don't like hypocrisy. There are some feminists I have met who take men's issues seriously but far too many feminists will be in fits about the smallest injustices experienced by women but try to minimize or dismiss serious things that affect men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/21 03:31 AM
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There have been some successes. The National Coalition for Men also has done a lot. But on the whole, the few organizations and successes I can share make up a small part of the overall movement. I have been the first person to try and argue with feminists that the men's rights movement is necessary and helpful but when demanded for sources of accomplishments, it's not the largest list. I've also tried to personally organize change and it always flopped because people simply never wanted to join…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/21 12:35 AM
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I've thus far seen a few different people trying to go into spaces for relationship advice and try to convince straight women that we should become lesbian because it would be a better experience for us. Thankfully they get downvoted and asked what is wrong with them but this can also play into a larger issue of how violence within lesbian relationships can be dismissed or downplayed because of the assumption that women are non-violent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/21 12:10 AM
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I think the biggest problem with a lot of the men's rights movement is that it focuses sometimes too much on blaming feminism and not enough time taking productive steps to address the problems they care about. I agree that the feminist movement doesn't do enough to address men's rights issues and sometimes they are actively complicit in trying to downplay them. But it's not like the feminist movement has to be the one to address men's issues. It's not going to in the foreseeable future. Feminis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/21 12:05 AM
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Because I don't hate men and it would be wrong to assume all men are rapists just because a few of them have harmed me significantly. Your argument is that I can't have trauma from sexual assault and also have male friends or go to the grocery store because men are there? And yes, saying that it is the woman's fault she got raped because she went to the club is rape apology. It argues both that women are responsible for the rapists behavior and that rape is just a natural thing that men will do …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/02/21 11:51 PM
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Right but you did ask why someone would give this advice and I told you why.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/21 08:16 AM
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I do agree that sending mixed signals is sometimes just a part of flirting and "playing the game" but if you are honestly asking why someone would say this then I will tell you. I think a lot of women send what can be seen as mixed signals when we feel afraid or threatened. In a moment where someone is being sexually forceful sometimes appeasing them feels safer than trying to start a fight because it's a fight we generally won't win. I can slap a guy in the face and call him a jerk for touching…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/21 03:11 PM
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Maybe my experiences have been severely skewed from spending a lot of time in university settings, and not really dating after that. Some university settings can be insane. I thankfully escaped a highly feminist campus but the stories my boyfriend had on his were out of this world. Working through anger issues from a multiple-year abusive relationship I went through where my ex weaponized feminism against me. I've been in therapy for years, and we'll be talking about that specific issue next wee…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/21 01:12 AM
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I thought the research stated that men who demonstrate the "dark triad" traits are more preferred for sexual hook-ups by women but are less preferred for marriage and long-term relationships (Jonason et al., 2009b; McHoskey, 2001) Ie, when you don't have to spend a lot of time around a more "aggressive man" then they are successful with conquests. And that makes sense, if you meet someone at a club and go home with them you're spending a handful of hours with an "aggressive man" and likely never…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/21 08:16 PM
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Sorry ladies, your "women are the mostest persecutedest minorities ever in all of history under all categories" myth is just that, a myth. The number of women who identify as feminists range between the single and teen percentages. Most women aren't feminists and most aren't spending their time claiming to be persecuted, let alone the *most* persecuted in human history. Women also don't speak in baby talk, so I'm not sure why you decided to categorize women's speech in such a manner. A unilatera…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/21 07:55 PM
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I'm glad you did too!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/21 12:09 AM
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I don't define healthy sexual relationships solely on whether or not someone can be prosecuted for their behavior. There are lots of things people can do that are legal and still harmful to other people. The law isn't the end all be all of morals. My standard for a sexual ethics is much higher than "am I rapist if I do this?" It's also based on things like "is this a mutually enjoyable experience?" Or "is this likely to cause trauma to my partner?" A lot of begrudging consent is still consent, s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/21 07:19 PM
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That's awful, I'm so sorry, no one should have done that to you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/21 10:39 AM
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I think that is likely because men and women are praised for different things. A man who sleeps with a lot of women is going to earn a higher status. Consistently rejecting women isn't necessarily beneficial to him. If he sleeps with a lot of women he is a stud. Women who sleep with a lot of men are more often to be slut shamed so bragging about how choosy and selective you are is a way to demonstrate that you're a classy lady who doesn't put out for just anyone. Bragging about sleeping with a l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/21 09:43 PM
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They didn't always earn an income from the work they did. And that meant that logically men needed to foot the bill on dates. That is how this standard originated and there is no debate on that subject. If you wish to pretend that women always made as much money as men I have no desire to entertain it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/21 08:03 PM
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If a woman works she doesn't need the man to always pay on a date. That originated during a time where women didn't work or earn their own income. Now they can, thus that is a chivalrous standard that is outdated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/21 07:59 PM
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I agree. Whenever someone has brought up this argument towards me to explain why my future husband will cheat on me and I need to accept it (because men are biologically wired to seek multiple mates) or why men are going to sexually assault me (because men have higher sex drives on average and I wore a dress) I have rolled my eyes and said "no, men are not all liars and predators". That doesn't even touch the religious arguments I was subjected to such as why my husband will beat me and that's o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/21 01:49 PM
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It is definitely a concern that they are not on the same page about such a fundamental issue. But his wife has no ability (well in theory, in practice with doctors is a different story) to stop him from getting the procedure if that is what he wants. It's his body. In addition, it is his right to close the door on his own fertility whenever he wants to. If that is a deal-breaker for his wife, so be it. But no one should be guilt-tripped into having a child they don't want to have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/21 01:23 PM
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First, anyone is going to be miserable if they surround themselves in toxicity. It would be like a black person reading white supremacy chats in his free time. Would that make him miserable? Probably. Would it expose him to people who hate him and trivialize his problems? Yes. But that is to be expected on such forums and definitely is not a healthy way to spend his free time. The first step is to stop reading in spaces that are toxic and cause you distress. A social media break sounds in order.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/21 01:19 PM
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Dating sucks sometimes but I find it best to be assertive with your expectations. I have fought to pay for myself on dates and women who act precious about it are probably best avoided. I don't get why some girls think paying for themselves is an affront. One of the best dates I had he took me to McDonald's. And I paid for my half. We were coworkers, we both knew the other didn't make any money. We just got McDonald's and sat in his car under the stars. And then walked over to the ice cream plac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/20 10:52 AM
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But sometimes the mother isn't known if it was under safe haven laws or abandoned. You specified the birth father must be known but you're not answering what happens if he isn't known.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/20 03:37 PM
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So what happens if no bio father is known? The adoption is denied and the kid just rots in foster care forever? Say it's a baby that was abandoned at a fire station under safe haven laws. We have no idea who either parent is, so by default we decide the child is ineligible for adoption? Or it was a sperm donor from a IVF clinic (donors usually remain anonymous). Or mom has no idea who the father is. Or the pregnancy was a result of rape. If people can't adopt these children they will just sit in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/20 07:24 AM
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I don't really think that is feasible in all cases. Not every father is biologically related to their children. This is only an issue if they don't know it. Some fathers adopt, other couples conceived through a donor. For instance this would impact two gay fathers who adopted a child. Barring non-biologically related dads from being on the birth certificate would deny parental custody to lots of willing parents. There has to be an ability to waive a biological requirement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 08:59 PM
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Personally I think paternity tests should be routine unless the couple opts out. There's some couples who won't need them obviously, like adoptive parents or parents who conceive through IVF, same-sex partners, etc. But just making it a routine test would take away the conflict. I do think it is true that asking for a paternity test does imply a level of distrust in your partner. You are alleging that you need proof they haven't fundamentally betrayed you and I definitely think this is something…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 08:31 PM
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Personally I have only ever seen the term "bromance" used in a positive context as I'm not aware of any time I've seen a homophobic comment criticizing two men for having a bromance. That doesn't mean it never happens. It originated with Dave Carnie in the 90s who used it to describe the bond formed between skaters. It blew up in the media around 2008 due to a slew of movies like "I love you, man" To my knowledge it's never had a negative connotation so I don't see anything negative about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/20 09:36 PM
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I think it also depends largely on your ability to lead or market that substance well. If you have substance but its not immediately apparent by how you market yourself then it may be overlooked which is very unfortunate but such is the consequence of the rise of dating apps and the popularization of the idea that love and attraction are immediate and can never be a slow burn. Its also relevant to keep in mind that young women, like young men, can oftentimes be immature and are just figuring thi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/20 03:07 PM
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This just sounds like one giant generalization. Are you arguing that most married men are bad people? I'm also not sure why you switched from making general statements to referring to me specifically by the end of your post. I've been in a stable relationship for 8 years and certainly try to put in the work to make my boyfriend happy. And he's a good man who treats me well. We both put in effort to make sure one another feel loved and validated and supported and I doubt he would consider me "wil…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/20 02:58 PM
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Okay, I'll bite. I'll try to answer from a female perspective. Now I can't tailor advice to YOU because I don't know what you're specifically doing. But I can give general advice that I see a lot of people with this type of mindset getting wrong. I'm sure some people will want to leave hate comments but just know that I've received my fair share of rape/death/hate comments from red pillers already so you don't need to waste your breath. I've heard it all before, it doesn't move me. False Duality…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/20 01:12 AM
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I don't think I need to provide proof when I'm not naming the people involved or seeking any prosecution of them. I don't have any reason to lie about it, I have nothing to gain from doing so. They are nobodies and so am I. One was someone I had one date with where we went to a Disney movie night with our club. We made out a little bit which was as far as I was willing to take things but he wanted to have sex. I made it very clear that I did want to do so and I guess he felt it was appropriate t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/20 07:43 PM
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That's just your theory though. I could just as easily say men don't love women very much and it would have as much validity. I could point to the fact that different men abused me and sexually assaulted me when I first started dating and use that to conclude that most men don't care about women. Instead I took it to conclude that I must be doing something that continues to draw these types of people into my life and I unlearned co-depencency and became more assertive. That drew good men into my…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/20 06:53 PM
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I don't see any reason to conclude that women don't love their husbands. This just seems like a strange argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/20 06:34 PM
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Married men rend to live longer and researchers believe it is because they usually eat healthier (home cooked meals) and are made to go to a doctor more often if something is wrong. I wouldn't say women don't take care of their loved ones. Maybe you need to evaluate what you think caring looks like and how you want it to manifest. There's different types of love languages. You dated someone with a personality disorder which would mess anyone up. But most people don't have personality disorders a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/20 11:03 PM
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You are claiming people can't be who they want but then how is that the case? I obviously can. The only thing you can point to is that some people might disapprove but you fail to substantiate how that functions as a complete barrier. The Amish don't approve of me showing my wrists or ankles, that doesn't bother me because the Amish are a minority. Why should I care what the Amish think? Indeed why should I care if some strangers on the left or right don't approve of my lifestyle when I myself a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/20 09:12 PM
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It was once the norm that women weren't allowed to have jobs. Now they do. It was the norm that black people were naturally inferior to the white man. Now they're not. It was the norm that women were sex-craved beasts and only men had the requisite logical faculties to control their libido. Now we think the opposite. It was the norm that only men and women are allowed to love one another. Now it isn't. It was once the norm that only people of the same race should intermarry. Now we have changed …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/20 04:41 AM
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I'm not sure I see any groveling or where he was made to feel ashamed. He said that men tend to fall either within the higher bounds of society, like at the top of the corporate chain, or the lowest parts of society doing dangerous, dirty/disgusting jobs whereas women tend to exist more within the middle. This is true. Men take more risks, thus they claim higher rewards but sometimes fall further. The other person provided the perspective that prostitution is also a dangerous, dirty, and disgust…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/20 12:52 AM
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Are only men affected this is supposed issue? How will this uplift the lot of men in society?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/20 08:25 AM
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This isn't relevant to men's rights in any manner and is instead a critique of word reclamation. This is neither a liberal nor a men's rights point of view so I'm not sure why it's even here. Personally, I have no problem with word reclamation and have no desire to use language that people find hurtful to their community. Removing racism from the discussion is removing the relevant portion of this issue from the equation. That's like saying "okay remove the killing part. Why is murder wrong?" An…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/20 11:14 AM
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I mean in the past it seemed like gold diggers were deceptive about their intentions and would mislead men into thinking they liked them. But now it seems like women who want to date rich men and rich men who want to date younger, pretty women are more transparent about it. There's sugar baby websites and dating sites specifically for this purpose, linking rich men and young hot women together. I don't necessarily see this as a problem as long as everyone is on the same page about it. Some rich …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/20 05:38 PM
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For many heterosexual women the idea of having an orgasm during most sexual encounters is not "little". Its huge. But I truly don't see how you can make an argument that men are content with too little because they have the standard that they finish during sex whereas for young women the bar is so low that good sex is simply the absence of pain. Clearly that is imbalanced. Men may benefit from having higher standards for sexual pleasure but in comparison to women their way ahead already.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 07:18 PM
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Yeah I thought I was on left wing male advocates not trad-con purity culture advocates with a hint of bad women's anatomy. My mistake. When I see feminists devolve into making small penis jokes or body shaming men I jump right in to tell them off. Didn't think I would have to come on here and hear about "worn vaginas" and get treated like a she-devil for correcting basic anatomical facts. Its very disheartening.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 07:11 PM
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Depends really. When it comes to casual hookups I don't think there is much women can do. Even if they know their own bodies and what works, if you don't have a partner willing to invest the time in it then there's not a lot to be done. In terms of long-term relationships then yes, definitely. A lot of women don't know their own bodies and being willing to learn what works and how to give feedback is important. Those who are unwilling can't blame their partner for not being able to figure it out…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 07:08 PM
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Thank you. I do encourage women to initiate more, ask men out and not be so afraid of being slut shamed. I entered IDGAF mode a long time ago and am more than comfortable just being myself and letting the incompatible rule themselves out. If a guy doesn't like me initiating then we aren't compatible, saves me time. But it's an uphill battle that is making gradual progress. I do think men get the short end of the stick a lot when it comes to dating but it isn't always a walk in the park from this…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 04:49 PM
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Actually a lot of guys do consider it slutty for you to make the first move as a woman even if it is just asking the guy out. I grew up in purity culture and have still had to undo the harm years later. You can try and deny that such double standards about male and female sexuality exist if you like but purity culture does absolutely slut shame women disproportionately. Why are there purity balls for dads and daughters and not for moms and boys? Peoples worth and value as human beings is not tie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 04:44 PM
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You have failed to refute that slut shaming isn't a deterrent to sex? You're just arguing a strawman. I didn't say "men" are responsible for it, I said that purity culture and slut shaming is. I absolutely agree that women play a large role in slut shaming one another.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 04:30 PM
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You can want someone who believes in commitment but I guarantee you don't refer to men who sleep around as having a "worn dick" and imply that they lose their value and worth as a human being based solely on the fact that they have had sex. I also doubt you promote myths about how male anatomy works in order to deter sex. You are allowed to want commitment and a virgin or a sexually conservative partner. But not everyone wants that. Who cares what other people do as consenting adults? You can fi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 04:20 PM
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This attitude is exactly why women won't initiate. Why would I be forward about my feelings for another man if the implication is that someone is going to accuse me of having a "worn" vagina for having any sexual experience prior to settling down? Slut shaming is a huge deterrent as to why women are afraid to be forward about their secual interests. Because people like you turn around and perpetuate the notion that being a sexually active woman is a bad thing. You can't complain that women won't…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 04:12 PM
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It seems you need to vent and that is fair. But if you believe all of this to be true it really isn't. . Women do seem to have an easier time finding men who will want to have sex with them. But finding a good sexual partner who will put effort into her pleasure and finding a hookup are two different things. See the orgasm gap between heterosexual and lesbian women. A lot of women can get a hookup but that doesn't mean it will be a positive experience. Men generally stand to get more out of a ca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 04:03 PM
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I have noticed a startling uptick in the demonization of male sexuality. I have also seen many guys express that they are Lonely and want to date But Refuse to approach women And their biggest reason why is because they are afraid that so much as talking to or smiling at a woman will make them a creep or get them accused of harassment. It's ridiculous that people are afraid to even express interest in women anymore because they think it will make them creeps. But it's ridiculous that there are s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/20 05:18 AM
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That was kind of my point. Men aren't slut-shamed, which is the idea that they are not supposed to enjoy sex, and if they do they are perverted. Rather they are shamed as predators for having normal sexual desires.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/20 04:38 AM
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I agree, flyers could work. I was thinking of making a documentary at some point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/20 01:54 AM
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I'm not saying all the discussions are bad. But I guess instead of seeing "male victims of DV don't get support" reiterated and posted over and over again I would rather we build an official platform, outlining our stance on male domestic violence victims, the evidence we have to support it, and proposed efforts to combat the issue. One is just repeatedly shouting the same problem over and over again and the other is actually doing something about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/20 01:53 AM
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It depends on the crime. Take rape as an example. Women are the primary perpetrators of made to penetrate by a long-shot. If made to penetrate were counted as rape then their claim would be false, women are the primary offenders of rape against men. Domestic violence? There is plenty of evidence for gender symmetry in domestic violence, it just gets ignored. Historically, women had less access to public outside of the home which presented far less opportunity to commit crime. As women's freedoms…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/20 12:03 AM
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Could we build an official platform? I feel like we have discussions about the same men's issues over and over again. There's news articles shared about the same issues and sometimes posts and discussions about them. But honestly while I think "raising awareness" is a good goal, I think a lot of us are on the same page about what issues we think are hurting men and I'd like to get past sharing a news article once a week about the same problem and get to actively writing and building a platform w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 09:05 AM
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Before joining Reddit my main men's rights platform was on Quora. I knew several male feminists on Quora, of various kinds. There was not really one "male feminist" individual. There were some male feminists who were extremely kind and recognized what I was saying. There were some male feminists who were extremely antagonistic towards me. Some were my followers and we chatted often. Others had me blocked and made passive-aggressive posts about my content. There wasn't a one size fits all "male f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 11:34 AM
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Because the bigger issue appears to be poverty rather than skin color alone. Wealth is largely passed down by property ownership. Black slaves started at a disadvantage because they did not own property. Freed slaves were thrown in share-cropping and as generations went on only modest wealth could be inherited down the line. Immigrants who come to the US are often educated, have in demand skills or a job lined up already. Unless they come over on a marriage or fiance visa, most immigrant visas r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/20 03:56 PM
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I don't know why you are being downvoted for pointing out that Irish people were not enslaved. My ancestor was an Irish immigrant who came over as a child and was abandoned on the streets. She certainly suffered and the plight of Italian and Irish immigrants was bad. But it wasn't as bad as being a slave on a plantation or a black man in the era of the KKK. If people genuinely believe that Irish people had it as bad as slaves they're deluding themselves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/20 03:44 PM
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Women are not a big hivemind motivated by the same things, rubbing their hands together with glee. I don't think very many women at all even notice the double standard, let alone consciously rejoice in their perpetuation of it. Women are told that we are victims of sexism and the patriarchy, that we are the ones who have it the hardest when it comes to dating and men who claim otherwise are just incels.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/20 09:48 AM
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Oh I agree and it is unfortunate. I wouldn't suggest most guys express that much of a rant because feminists would jump to calling it misogynistic. I can get away with it because I'm a woman. If a man just added "sweetie" into a rant about women's dating behaviors he would be torn to shreds. I do think however that men should be able to open up about their struggles with dating without being called an incel or shamed. We need to listen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 02:11 PM
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I agree with most of this but I think I came away with the opposite takeaway than the author. Where I deviate is at this part: we as a society should tell young men that they need to act more masculine towards women if they want to be more successful in dating and love and sex! As a woman, from a basic empathy standpoint, I would NOT want to live in a world where, in order for a man to like me I would have to do things like pretend to be dumber than I really am because it's endearing, give up ho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 07:30 AM
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I obviously can't relate to what dating would be like for a guy or a lesbian but it actually blows my mind that 23-year-old women will only date guys who own a house already. Like how? Who owns a house at 23? That's like the age a lot of people are just finishing college. I think self-improvement advice is good for people who are self-loathing. Advising people to have a level of healthy self-esteem helps ensure that they don't make some really common dating mistakes like being a doormat, coming …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 06:21 AM
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My above answer goes into discussion of the most common one and has a list linking to commonly claimed male privileges. Is there a reason that's not sufficient and you want me to list them out here for you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 09:39 PM
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I don't disagree with what you are saying but perhaps it would be better suited as a comment on the post instead of a comment to my answer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/20 10:05 AM
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I'm sure you are supporting your friend the best you can by being there for him and allowing him to reach his own conclusions about her. That must be difficult.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 11:33 AM
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Rapists rarely see what they are doing as rape. That's even what research shows. I would have some other choice words but I will leave it at that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 11:30 AM
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In any case if someone has been rejected then continuing past that that is certainly not okay and not the type of healthy sexual relationships I am thinking of. People who feel the need to use alcohol or other intoxicating substances to break down someone's boundaries are being disrespectful and not taking no for an answer is as well. I too would call that date rape, not seduction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 11:26 AM
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I don't know. I mean if someone wears lingerie for their spouse that is seduction but I don't think it overrides their ability to consent or say no to sex. I wouldn't think "you surprised your husband wearing lingerie? How toxic of you." In healthy relationships a little spontaneity can spice things up, I don't see that as being harmful. I'm not sure what you saw in the bar because that's not really my scene but when I think of seduction I think of wearing lingerie, flowers and candles, a romant…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 10:59 AM
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Ah that vaguely rings a bell. A discussion about how seduction is manipulation and therefore victimizes the receiver. Yeah I found that to be an infantalizing argument, that's true. I think flirtation and seduction can certainly be handled ethically in consensual relationships and the notion that seduction is so powerful that it negates consent an overestimation of how powerful seduction is. Though I don't recall saying anything about your "game" specifically, just the concept of seduction being…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 10:49 AM
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I don't recall telling anyone they "overestimate their game". I remember one conversation with someone on men's lib where I said that I don't think asking someone on a date is harassment and I find cold approaches better than online dating (in my personal experience). I also recall telling someone that being miserable can be a turnoff when it comes to dating. Unless it was one of my pieces of advice on r/deadbedrooms in which I commonly tell HL people that their approaches to reluctant partners …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 10:36 AM
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Men aren't losing privilege, even by meaning of this quip. The argument is that "equality feels like oppression". If society creates a world where women feel safe to walk down the street, then men will (by the claim of this argument) falsely perceive that they have lost something. They're used to being ahead and now that women are equal to them, they think they have lost something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 03:24 PM
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The argument being made isn't that men are losing privileges, just that other people are gaining privileges and becoming equal to them. And the quip is that when those once privileged people become equal with minorities they think they are the ones being oppressed. If you feel like you can hold hands with your partner in public without people getting offended by it, or that you can get married to someone you love without controversy, then people would say you have straight privilege because gay …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/20 02:48 PM
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I have no idea what you are even trying to say. Religions banned premarital sex for both men and women. Why do you think circumcision was first invented? It wasn't to encourage them to be promiscuous. Purity culture has screwed everyone over.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/20 09:25 PM
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I don't think anyone should be shamed for being a virgin but we aren't promoting promiscuity. The average age Americans lose their virginities has remained around the same since the Boomer generation (about 16). The rate of premarital sex in the US has been about the same since the 1940s. Research shows that young people today are having less sex than previous generations, are more sexually responsible and that young people today are more likely than generations past to say their first time was …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/20 03:20 PM
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No. I started advocating for mens rights in like 2014
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/20 12:55 PM
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I've seen a lot of restraining order and protection order violation cases. In general, if it is a no-contact order and the other person is the one contacting you, the restrained party, that would not stop you from being able to show that the other person is harassing you. The real problem is that harassment is often very hard to prove. It's regrettable that being the restrained party in a protection order resulted in so much bias against you when trying to report harms that were done but I think…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/20 12:26 PM
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women don't display the same liberal values. There's definitely research that shows many women by and large will not date bisexual men and that is a good point I didn't think to bring up. The discussion was around sensitive men in general and the fact that men who did things like even open up emotionally to a romantic partner or cry were also seen as being turn offs, due to traditional expectations of male stoicism and strength. Which it seems these feminists believe never happens. It is what it…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/20 11:32 PM
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I totally agree. I don't get why such an opinion is controversial.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/20 10:31 PM
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do you have any observations about how this sort of cognitive dissonance comes about? Why do women some feminists seem to act, even among themselves, like women in general are perfectly virtuous angels and not at all capable of bias (unrelated to The Patriarchy)? I think a large part of it stems from funding. Feminism sells. It gains public support and sympathy to the degree that they can afford to fund women's shelters, organizations, conferences, etc. But, I think there is a fear that if they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/20 10:37 AM
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Yes, somehow women are always the victim no matter the situation or our actions. That was one of the first things that made me suspicious of feminism, the learned helplessness it seemed to promote, and the idea that I was oppressed, downtrodden, and held back while men (much less privileged than me) were somehow the top tier of society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/20 10:21 AM
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Yes the casual misandry I see in feminist spaces really bothers me. There's tons of compassion for the struggles of women, the LGBTQ community, POC etc and then this blaring hostility and gross commentary about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/20 10:10 AM
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A decent point. You can see it in the way that gold diggers and other related women have been really glorified in popular culture lately. I understand why it was praised in the historical past. Women, like Cleopatra for instance, who resorted to seduction or charm to overcome major obstacles in their lives were fairly impressive in ancient history. Today, now that women have more opportunities I don't find it very empowering to glorify taking a man's money when presumably a competent woman would…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/20 10:08 AM
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Feminists are fully aware that men are desperate and lonely and that women’s sexual power is an effective bargaining chip in controlling this Maybe it's just the ones I've seen but I genuinely don't think that very many feminists are wily or self-aware enough for this to be their motivation. The idea that feminists are rubbing their hands together, creating a giant conspiracy to sabotage men may sound appealing but in my experience, it seems more like a lot of feminists simply lack accountabilit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/20 09:14 AM
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Based on the top complaints I hear from women its because often porn that focuses on penetration is either dominating, degrading, completely unrealistic or painful looking. When you add in the equation of a man with a vagina that usually includes the same "being dominated" or "loss of masculinity" aspect that many women don't enjoy watching. The more you know how a vagina works and feels and the more you can empathize with the person with the vagina, the less interest you have in watching fake p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/20 07:36 PM
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I have heard that from some extreme feminist circles but can't say I have ever seen it that way nor do I perceive that's how very many people outside of those extreme circles view it. As long as you are respectful and polite in your approach, it's not harassing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 10:38 AM
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It's not wholly different because the less social cost there is for women who make the first move, then the less hesitant they will be to do so. Anything that combats or takes the power out of slut shaming helps towards that cause.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 10:30 AM
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How is saying "wow, you look swell, what are you doing tonight" cat calling? Cat calling is shouting lewd and/or offensive things. If you feel the need to shout "here baby, I got something for you to come sit on!" Yeah, that would be cat calling. If you, in a normal tone said "hey, you're really beautiful, can I get your number?" that would just be a cold approach.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 10:24 AM
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They call it a slut walk because the point is to reclaim the word "slut" from something that has historically been used to harm women and turn it into something empowering. Like some black people are trying to reclaim the n word. When you say they just want "wear slutty clothing" you aren't participating in word reclamation, you're just slut shaming. You're making a value judgement that the clothes they are wearing is slutty and wrong. They way they use the word and way you just used it are comp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 10:22 AM
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Ah yes and here you go with slut suaming while arguing with me that women aren't doing enough to combat it. Why do you give a shit if someone wears "slutty clothing?" Some women want to wear more revealing clothes, some want to wear modest ones. Who cares? Grow up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 10:14 AM
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But there have been steps taken to combat slut shaming? And a lot of them. Even slut walks. And homophobia is far from over. Plus lesbians have always been more accepted than gay men, simply because even homophobes have sexualized them for so long. It's gay men that bore more stigma because of the HIV scare.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 10:02 AM
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Comparing the effectiveness of the gay rights movements to the effectiveness of the sexual revolution doesn't say anything about how important either issue is to the people advocating within them. It's like saying "well they created a flu vaccine, I guess curing cancer must not be a priority for doctors". They require entirely different approaches and changes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 09:06 AM
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I feel like you're comparing apples to oranges here. Gay rights weren't for lesbians, they were for gay men and gay women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 09:03 AM
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very low practicability on that one at least in the context of the west. Oh but stopping people from having premarital sex in the West is likely to happen? I'd say one is very unlikely to reappear without the other. My solution is education on the importance of family stability and starting a family before 30 in an attempt to renew a respect for the family. Yeah but it's not really an education issue. The highest proportion of single-mothers and fatherless households are among the impoverished. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 07:40 AM
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I don't think very many women are under the impression that being a single parent at 30 with a "baby daddy" is any manner desirable. So, no I don't think women over 30 are looking to get impregnated and then run. They certainly did in the past. Expectations of purity that were disproportionately applied to women but not to themselves as an example. Expectations of submission and beauty standards, etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 07:39 AM
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I somewhat but don't fully agree with this. If anything it appears to me that a lot of men are less likely to admit or acknowledge they have been raped or that something that was done to them was wrong. I don't argue with victims or try to tell them that they must feel some type of way about what happened but I also feel like a victim's perception isn't always the end all be all of whether an action was appropriate (though in the case of the professor it sounds fine). I've read countless posts f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 03:01 AM
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That is odd, because you're right both men and women need help getting back to work. My assumption is because women tend to get more public sympathy the show knew they could monetize it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 02:52 AM
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That doesn't appear to be what's happening now. The rate of premarital sex in the US has been the same since the 1940s, as has the average age of first sexual intercourse over the past four generations, which has remained around the age of 16. In the past people weren't anymore likely to wait until marriage to have sex, they were just less likely to be honest about it. Enforcing abstinence does not actually result in more abstinence, it just results in more shame around normal behavior. Studies …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 02:02 AM
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I don't think that's true. There was a time where men's standards for women were seen as overly harsh and penalizing and those have relaxed over decades of discussion and activism. The same can happen for women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 01:57 AM
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Yeah I think it s a more double-edged sword than some people realize. When I was young and just getting into dating it was absolutely pounded into my head that if I made the first move or *gasp* asked a guy out I would look like a "slut". If I had a nickel for every time it has been reiterated to me that "men like a chase" I would be rich. The worst thing I was told I could be was "too easy". I've always been quite a flirt and I loved flirting with people. When I liked someone I tried to drop hi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 01:22 AM
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Thirty Years of Denying the Evidence of Gender Symmetry in Partner Violence: Implications for Prevention and Treatment - Murray Straus Link to PDF
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/20 07:22 AM
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Lol. And I pointed out that saying fighting like a girl is a bit weird since she will typically lose if she does so with a male. The reason the term was utilized was because it wanted to flip the idea that fighting like a girl had to refer to physical altercations alone and that women were incapable. Also, fighting like girl is a bit sexist as it assumes boys cannot fight. While it has the potential to be used in this context I have not seen it done this way. It was intended to be ironic languag…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 04:05 PM
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If you do it only for women just because they are women then yes it is. Especially if you would not, as most people behind that phrase, support the gender-reversed version. No it is not. Is having a breast cancer rally sexist? What about being a gynecologist? Some people choose to dedicate their time to helping resolve women's issues. Some people dedicate their time to helping resolve men's issues. Some people do both. Neither is sexist, people can pursue whatever calling is best for them and ar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 03:51 PM
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It's nice when things can be resolved civilly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 03:37 PM
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I edited because I was on mobile and it's obnoxious trying to get a point across from that medium. You did by claiming female ways of self-expression to be the norm and by implying that not following that norm equals non-expression. No. I am not saying men have to express themselves in the same manner as women. Merely pointing out that the current way of handling things is not actually working. Again, you can not even begin to take away my stance on this matter from a one-word sentence I wrote. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 03:36 PM
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My username is a reaction to rabid feminists. I was accused of being a "tool of the patriarchy" because I advocated for men and criticized feminism, so I responded to her that I prefer "princess" of the patriarchy, then I built my image around it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 03:32 PM
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Except you were and are. Pointing out a fact is not victim blaming. Men are killing themselves in record numbers and it is because there is a major empathy gap in how we interact with men vs women. Furthermore, stop with this feminist bullshit treatment of men as defective women. Men have their own ways of processing their emotions and they do not need you to femsplain how to live I didn't "femisplain" anything. Men do often express themselves in ways that are different from women and there is n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 03:12 PM
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I'm being literal. Biology made it so that the sexes have obvious strength differences. Disagree? No I don't disagree, I simply am acknolwedging that it is irrelevant to the conversation because the fight like a girl statements have nothing to do with discussions of brawls and literal fighting. They were discussing things like female intelligence, women who achieved their goals, female role-models and athletes, not boxing men in a match lol. If women take a self-defence class then they do not fi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 02:45 PM
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Nice victim blaming. Careful with that reach, you may throw out your back. I am not victim blaming, I am pointing out the absurdity of glorifying men being silent on their pain and not getting help. Women may very well express their pain more often, this results in them having a longer life-span and killing themselves less often. This is not the fault of men or women this is the fault of society that demands stoicism from men, belittles their pain and calls them weak for getting help. This insul…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 02:39 PM
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When men experience same thing, just laughing from people like you. Laughing? I've been one of the people discussing this issue and trying to bring awareness to it. I'm not laughing at male suicide, I'm laughing at your absurd statement that men not getting help is a good thing and that discussing one's feelings is a sign of weakness. This is not a trad con subreddit so I'm not really sure why you are here. Yeah there's just years worth of evidence of me fighting for men's rights issues but sure…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 02:36 PM
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No, instead they internalize their feelings and kill themselves in record breaking numbers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 05:27 AM
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So let me get this straight. The point you are making here is "it's okay to equate women with weakness and cowardice and if young girls want to have positive female role models and athletes to look up to we should not provide those things for them because all that determines strength and ability is whether a girl can beat up a boy?" Because that is the meaning of your asinine question. "Fight like a girl" has nothing to do with something ridiculous like a bar brawl between a man and a woman. It …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 05:19 AM
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If a common insult used against men was turned into a positive slogan I don't see why anyone would care. There were shirts that said "real men wear pink" for a while. No one threw a fit about it. Fight like a girl isn't feminist pandering, it's turning an insult used against girls and turning it into something to be proud of. I guess it's feminist pandering in that it's being nice to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 01:07 AM
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That's really not the origin of fight like a girl. The point was that it was a common insult to say "you hit like a girl" or more commonly "you hit like a p*ssy" or you "fight like a girl". So the point was to the take the insult and flip it by instead showing tough, powerful women as role models and turning it into a positive slogan to "fight like a girl". So, no, I don't think it's bullshit. I grew up my entire life seeing "throw like a girl", "hit like a girl", "fight like a girl", "you're a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 11:11 PM
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No I don't think women hate penises. They may pretend to in order to avoid being slut shamed or perceived as easy. They certainly dislike receiving unsolicited penis photos from random men or having someone expose themselves without consent. But that's because consent is the operative issue. Women are less visual than men when it comes to sexuality so it will likely take more than a mere flash of a penis to turn many women on which is also likely why there is a difference in how men claim they w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 06:11 PM
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Id be curious to know what country you live in where you think girls have child bearing "thrust upon them" whether they like it or not. Women have access to birth control, are having kids much later in life and are able to stay child free by choice if they want to in most modern countries. I'm a child free woman myself and certainly no one is forcing me to have kids against my will. And abortion is legal here too. I wouldn't say there is any initiation into womanhood, whatever that means. And ce…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/20 03:15 PM
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As a woman I don't think we are ever asked to think deeply about our dating behavior the way that men are. This rears its head in extreme cases, where women feel like it's okay to rape, grope, harass men etc because they are a woman and certainly men "want it". The idea that a woman could be predatory, dangerous or her come ons be unwanted is a foreign concept to many women. But it also comes out in more subtle avenues like this. Never questioning why engagement rings are still a thing in 2020. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 11:58 PM
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I just want to take the time to clarify as a sexual assault advocate myself that I don't agree that women just talk about getting sexually assaulted to brag about how hot we think we are. So, thanks for tagging me I guess but that's definitely not a representation of my viewpoint on the matter and certainly not why I shared my own story of sexual assault. :/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/20 04:28 AM
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I have been previously published and devote a lot of my free time discussing men's issues. I also have my degree in criminal justice and spent much of that time studying inequalities in the law. However I'm also a woman and an American (not in the UK). Though my boyfriend lives in the UK. Does that disqualify me??
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/20 07:22 PM
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I think they wanted to juxtapose Arya and Sansa. They were showing two contrasting forms of female strength, a woman who wears pants and fights like a man, or a woman who wears a dress and uses her intelligence/words. Arya was a constant annoyance to me but to my knowledge she is a fan favorite.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/20 01:05 AM
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As a woman I really dislike this trend. Instead of investing some time to create compelling female characters, we'll just turn popular male characters into women! That is incredibly lazy writing and female characters don't have to ride off of the coattails of men in order to be interesting. Truth be told though, I'm a snob when it comes to matching characters to their descriptions so I'm hardly impartial. I didn't mind the way Game of Thrones handled things at all. Rather than gender-switching a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/20 12:25 AM
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There is a complete difference between treating people with respect and faking beliefs that you don't actually hold just to make people like you. I don't pretend to believe in things I don't actually think just to make people, men or women like me. That's just called being fake.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/20 01:04 PM
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I think she has some definite trad-con beliefs. I don't think she is wrong on every point. But take for instance the erasure of the importance of sexual attraction in a relationship. I 100% agree that these expectations that a man be super tall and an Adonis in order to be considered in a relationship is senseless. As a short woman myself I never understood the obsession with height some women seem to have. I dated a guy shorter than me once and I'm only 5'0 (I believe he was 4'8?) and it didn't…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/20 08:58 AM
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The flair on the original post is labeled "obvious satire". In addition, I looked into the person's comment history who posted that image in the first place and he appears to be a men's advocate. He has discussions in his post history about things like male domestic violence victims and was using this image as a criticism. It probably was made as satire but some people unironicly think this still. Which is why it fits the sub. That was a direct quote from the person who posted the image to r/nic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/20 07:55 AM
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Maybe it could be in the form of an alternative dating website. Like one where you can only see that person's age and their main interests/hobbies and personal bio. And then you can't see their picture until after you have matched together.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/20 10:31 AM
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So what do you think would be able to change things?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/20 09:38 AM
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Sure, so you think calling men sexual harassers and predators and women sluts will lead to a better situation than there is now?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 08:30 PM
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That seems debateable to me but we'll maintain that point. If it were true that no longer slut shaming women was the causal factor we would at least expect female sexual activity to increase. If it stays the same, it doesn't seem that ramping up slut shaming again would somehow make it better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 01:57 AM
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Oh I was arguing that it was the removal of stigma around sex (slut shaming at women specifically) that is responsible for this, not whether or not it's happening. If the removal of shaming sexually active women was responsible for anything, it would be for people having way more sex. In fact we see the opposite, less stigma and less sex for both genders. I do not agree that starting to slut shame women again would actually do anything in the way of "enforcing monogamy". Or if it did it would be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 01:53 AM
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Which supports what I just said...young people are having less sex today. Where did you get the impression that contradicted what I just said?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 01:41 AM
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So let's see your statistics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 01:37 AM
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I'm not sure the statistics bear this out. Young people today are having less sex than their same-aged peers in the past. And millennials specifically stood out among research because they were more likely than people in the past to lose their virginity in a committed relationship, and were dead average when it came to the age they lost their virginity. There's an awful lot of this drama-mongering about sex addicted young people but what research we have does not bear this out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 10:16 PM
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I found it on page 4
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 10:12 PM
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I don't see anything. Most of page 11 refers to the state vs women's groups: During the last decades, research on the role of women’s movements in the advancement of women’s rights has devoted a central role to movement-state relations...In the current context of governments with an openly anti-gender equality position, which makes partnership between the state and women’s movement organizations difficult, this assumption of the benevolent state needs to be amended or at least reviewed The only …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 11:33 PM
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Turn the lights off
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 05:18 AM
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Say it ain't so!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/20 06:59 PM
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No? I have no idea what you are talking about. I've consistently said that cheating is wrong. If you're talking about my analysis of Anne Bolynn I said that people unfairly slut shamed her when evidence shows that Anne never seduced King Henry like her rivals portrayed. And my username is a response to being called a "tool of the patriarchy" for supporting men's rights. I responded that I prefer princess. But nice try.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/20 12:43 AM
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A large part of this is because female criminality was ignored or excused for much of history. When women were put on trial for crimes they committed, they tended to become the victim on the stand and in public opinion. The more equal society gets, the more that female violent behavior and criminal behavior is being paid attention to and taken seriously. This gives the impression of a huge increase in female violence and crime. Increased movement in society also influences this. In the past, wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/20 09:41 PM
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Sorry for the length lol, I got carried away.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/20 09:03 PM
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3/3 Final. The Bad Boy Romance This is not to say however that associating seduction with female independence (when in truth it is the opposite) is the only reason that female hypergamy exists in society. Another aspect to take into account is to look at female romance and erotica literature. These fictional books and movies tend to follow a similar storyline about reforming the bad boy. The bad boy often has to be incredibly handsome, powerful and rich in order to compensate for his lack of goo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/20 12:54 AM
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2/3 Seductress and Power The Ethical Gold Digger Perhaps nothing resembles the glorification of the past seductresses like the modern gold digger discourse does today. That is to say, gold digging has been rebranded from a thing dishonest and lazy women do into an empowering and legitimate way to earn money, pay for schooling and be adorned in riches. It's not called being a gold digger anymore of course, but is instead called being a sugar baby. And entire websites and cultures exist around pai…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/20 12:54 AM
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1/3 I am glad you asked this question, as I do think there are some things that can be done to counter this issue. Though I think we need to delve a little more into societal views and how they can encourage this type of behavior. Perhaps I should do this like a Quora answer and break it into segments? The Idealization of the Seductress First, I think it's necessary to establish that there is a section of popular culture that glorifies hypergamy as a power fantasy. This largely relies on discuss…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/20 12:54 AM
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Oh I remember that. And people saying that she will never trust her father again. I thought that was a bit melodramatic. If he has been a good dad and the one thing he did wrong was read the first page of her diary I really doubt this will end up with her never trusting him for the rest of her life and going no contact. Lol. That sub thinks a single mistake means you should end every relationship in your life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/20 09:39 AM
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Because slavery had a far longer generational impact than past discrimination against Chinese immigrants did. Slaves first had nothing, then after abolition there was no reconstruction plan put in place so their next opportunity was share cropping. That poverty and hardship continues to affect each generation. Chinese immigrants were discriminated against for a time in US history but never to the severity that African American slavery had. And plenty of modern day Asian Americans aren't just the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 09:46 AM
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As an example of the latter problem, consider the proportion of black incarcerated Americans. This proportion is often used to characterize the criminal justice system as anti-black. However, if we use the precise same methodology, we would have to conclude that the criminal justice system is even more anti-male than it is anti-black. Would we characterize criminal justice as a systemically misandrist conspiracy against innocent American men? I hope you see that this type of reasoning is flawed,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/20 01:31 AM
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Yeah, the state wants there to be child support because it puts the burden on individual men to provide a standard of living rather than workplaces/the government.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 11:29 PM
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Indeed! I imagine some people would intentionally wait until the last minute to ensure that she can't abort (if they are against abortion) even if they know they aren't going to provide any support. I think some type of reasonable time frame can be established to avoid that from happening.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 10:53 PM
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Yeah that way she has time to go and get an abortion if he opts out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 10:46 PM
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I agree. It should be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 10:21 PM
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Consent to sex is not consent to parenthood for women so therefore neither should it be for men. You have to use mental gymnastics to come to any other conclusion. I do understand where (some) feminists are coming from when they say that if financial abortion is made legal for men then it should be made applicable to the same restraints women are subjected to when they want an abortion. If a state requires counseling and prenatal screening for women who want abortions then men should have to get…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/20 06:32 PM
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Well thank you for being polite and providing some clarification.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 01:56 AM
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Just because someone has a sitter or daycare does not mean strangers are raising their children. Lots of people do not have the privilege to not have a dual household income but assuming every couple that works are absentee parents seems like a very privileged and inaccurate point of view. First, many people have other family members who help with the kids if need be, not strangers. Second, you can still be an involved parent who raises your kids even if it means your child goes to pre-school du…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 12:52 AM
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Indeed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/20 10:14 PM
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Is there any way I can have non-toxic discussions with women about gender issues? Sure, what did you want to talk about?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/20 08:38 AM
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I'm not, sorry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/20 02:06 AM
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I'm not talking about homophobia. Homophobes have always stigmatized gay sex and always will. But in feminist circles you will not see the same type of criticism, claims of "objectification" or demeaning language towards gay men who pay for sex. I really don't think the male orgasm is the crux of their argument. Their argument is about male sexuality as a whole. "we have sick ideas about it stemming mostly from Victorian social mores and ideas about unmarried men who didn’t have the hand of a wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/20 11:46 PM
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I understand your frustrations. The George Floyd case was brutal to watch and as someone who works in criminal justice it kept me up almost the entire night with how horrifying it was. Constructive criticism and discussion about why this happens and the way to prevent it in the future is absolutely fair. Of course there is going to be plain hate and vitriol towards the police and that's simply something that we have to let be water off our backs. But it's also important for everyone in the field…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/20 11:39 PM
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Well let's see. I'm a woman but I like to watch pro-wrestling (not very many women in the wrestling community) and I like playing video games. I also went into a male-dominated field and I am child-free by choice. Of course there's many ways I am also stereotypically female. I like fashion, I love animals and I watch cringe reality TV (other than wrestling). I wouldn't really describe it as breaking gender norms, I just see it as doing the things I am interested in. I'm more surprised by the peo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/20 11:00 PM
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It is interesting seeing the larger societal narrative on sex work that caters to men vs women. Happy ending massage parlors for example are illegal but meanwhile the female equivalent, Yoni massages are perfectly legal. And, they are sold with flowery language. Yoni massages are about positive energy and sensuality. They aren't necessarily sexual. They help women connect with their bodies and unlock their potential. Blah blah blah. They're a massage that stimulates female genitalia. The way tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/20 10:49 PM
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The Democrat party was a conservative party. They were known for having conservative values up until the Progressive Era. As the 19th century drew to a close, the Republicans had been firmly established as the party of big business during the Gilded Age, while the Democratic Party strongly identified with rural agrarianism and conservative values. But during the Progressive Era, which spanned the turn of the century, the Democrats saw a split between its conservative and more progressive members…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/20 10:31 PM
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I can see why someone would leave a marriage they are unhappy with. But I don't see how that follows into abandoning your children. Tons of people still at least ask for visitation with their kids after a divorce, if not shared custody.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 11:25 PM
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As an American, please don't mind that one. While it is true that the Democrat party was the one who wanted to uphold slavery in the American past, the Democrat party back then was the party of conservatives and the Republican party of the past was the party of liberals (abolitionists). Or to be more specific to your wording, the Democrats were right-wing and the Republicans were left-wing. I too, can hardly stifle an eye-roll when some right-winger tries to argue that "the Democrats" were respo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 11:15 PM
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I would almost say start a separate sub to field questions and debate points from right wingers. We can set it up like r/AskFeminists where the OP can pose their question or argument but then the posts have to reflect the point of view of a left-wing advocate. Or we can set it up like r/FeMRADebates and have a crossover sub for left-wing and right-wing male advocates to debate. But turning this sub into debate central would probably be unwise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 11:09 PM
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If you go to feminist subreddits they are not just a group of people posting things they either agree or disagree with. They are building gender theories, having discussions, answering questions from non-feminists. Say what you want about menslib but they have discussions on there that are way more meaningful than "someone on the internet disagreed with me. RAGE." I don't think that conversation is at all stifled to the tiny list you created.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 11:05 PM
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I have definitely seen people twist themselves into a pretzel to justify belittling men for their sexuality while claiming to be in favor of sexual freedom. That AITA thread the other day was an interesting case in point, where they bent over backwards to argue that a man deserved to be mocked and insulted for having a sex doll because they objectify women. But female sex toys are not comparable and don't objectify men. Oh but they weren't kink shaming and they weren't limiting men's sexual free…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:55 PM
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Thanks, I apologize too. I should curve sleepless nighttime rants. I think you're right. There's multiple different brands of sex negativity and each of them define themselves with different "moral" beliefs. Rad fems will oftentimes stigmatize male sexuality and sometimes sex as a whole. Religious fanatics will associate sex with sin and impurity. Trad-cons, homophobes, etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:45 PM
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Well, kind of. Some things have actually gotten worse and regressed since the 1950s in America. And a lot of that is due to evangelical Christians if I had to take a guess. America can be sex negative but it also oversexualizes things. It's a really weird dichotomy. You can walk down the street and see a giant billboard for a Victoria's secret lingerie collection with a sexy caption. But if a feminist for instance tries to discuss it as objectification of women she'll be mocked and derided. The …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:40 PM
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I did not grow up in the southern US at all. It's been repeatedly observed that abstinence-only education tends to disproportionately target shame at girls and that type of education is more common in the south. I learned comprehensive sexual education but we were still split into separate groups by gender. We learned that boys get erections, have nightly ejections, their voices lower and they think about sex more often. They learned (and so did we girls) that girls get periods and then we watch…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 03:00 PM
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No, we have spent too long living it. You may think this was happening on the internet, this is an insidious point of view that way too many people have been confident expressing both online and in person. The shift from policing mainly female sexuality into now hating on men who use sex toys (claiming it "objectifies women" but somehow female sex toys are immune from this critique), shaming men for healthy and normal sexual feelings (the male gaze, getting mad at men for asking women out), etc …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 02:33 PM
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I don't think there is any "rise". Sex positive and sex negative feminists have been battling it out for a long time. Sex negative feminists never went away. And since there is a resurgence of conservative and right-wing viewpoints happening in many western nations right now, sex negative and traditionalist views are being brought to the forefront. This doesn't just apply to sex it applies to abortion, same-sex marriage, contraception, religion, immigration, etc. As a woman and a Christian who h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 09:57 AM
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Well it seems you're not following it, because I didn't reply to you. I even pulled up the original thread and my response is not directed at you. So I don't see how I'm the one "not following it".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 08:29 AM
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In fact I think this line of reasoning is downright sexist and intolerance. The person I replied to did, yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:57 AM
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Sure. But many women do want to watch out for each other based on this perception. So the previous user's theory doesn't make him sexist just for pointing out the phenomena.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:34 AM
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I don't think it's men who are responsible for the phenomena but society as a whole tends to take male rape less seriously. Male rape is commonly played for laughs in movies and media. Many people genuinely believe that a man cannot be raped by a woman and that an erection is a sign of consent. Many others believe that men will enjoy rape regardless so it isn't that serious if it happens. As for whether these groups fall in the minority or the majority, I'm not sure. As someone who has staunchly…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 12:26 AM
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I don't think so. While gender symmetry in domestic violence has been established, the greater cultural narrative still treats domestic violence as uniquely a women's issue. As such the attitudes surrounding it reflect that. There's definitely nothing crazy about the idea that many women see domestic violence as a women's issue and rally around each other based on that perception. Just watch any social experiment on how the general public reacts to a man abusing a woman in public vs a woman abus…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 12:18 AM
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Bodily autonomy is a human rights issue. Let's treat it as one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 09:05 AM
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That could be the case. I imagine some of it could be because a lot of parents who kill their children are or are painted as extremely mentally ill. The majority of cases I have seen look just look like full blown psychological breaks. This one doesn't appear that way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 06:04 AM
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In these species, it is the female members who are socially dominant. They decide who mates and as a result they set the rules for the males of that species. That's really a watered down view when discussing animal mating rituals. Forced copulation is exceedingly common in nature as well and there are tons of differences in mating across species. For example, male penguins are the ones who go out and and put themselves in danger so that the female penguins can be protected. No, they stay so the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 02:51 AM
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Can you provide some of the sources where that has happened? I've seen it with two inebriated parties but not one who is completely sober.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 01:12 AM
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In the case of one person being blackout the things that will usually be evaluated is Intoxication in regards to one another. If one person is completely sober and the other person is super inebriated that will be considered a power imbalance. Consent Did the intoxicated person give verbal consent, did they give physical consent, and did they reciprocate during sex, or did they just lie still and not do anything to resist? The former three will be considered grounds for consent pretty easily. La…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 12:52 AM
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In legal cases it usually has to be unconscious or the case won't get anywhere. Prosecutors won't even want to take it. It's on college campuses where blackout tends to enter the discussion. It's referred to as "too drunk to consent" in a court of law and is incredibly hard to prove. College campuses are a whole other issue. They tend to use college tribunals and use all sorts of one-sided techniques. In my opinion colleges shouldn't even be able to try cases.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 12:36 AM
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Lawyer, Nelson Rodriguez-Varela, said he was gathering a legal team 'so she [Patricia] has the opportunity to vindicate her good name' and asked the public to reserve judgment for when more information comes out. 'There is obviously a great deal of support for her,' he said. 'By all accounts, she has been an excellent mother, an excellent person, a great family as you can see from the people who are here.' Kind of gross but a common defense technique. Good character witness statements could spar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 12:35 AM
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Here's what it reads: The defendant knew or reasonably should have known that the effect of an intoxicating substance prevented the woman from resisting. Negligence for mens rea means (paraphrasing) that the person did not exercise the standard of care a reasonable person would exercise in a given circumstance. The defense's argument: If you have a reasonable doubt about whether the defendant had the mental state required for this crime, you must find him not guilty of this crime. The jury did b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 12:19 AM
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You can tell if someone is unconscious or not. If you can't tell the person you are having sex with is unconscious that is on you. Stop acting like this requires a high level of skill. Being convicted for raping someone who was conscious but didn't remember the next day is practically impossible outside of college campuses.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 12:06 AM
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She didn't just say she was blacked out. She said she was unconscious. I made silly faces, let my guard down, and drank liquor too fast not factoring in that my tolerance had significantly lowered since college. The next thing I remember I was in a gurney in a hallway. I had dried blood and bandages on the backs of my hands and elbow. I shuffled from room to room with a blanket wrapped around me, pine needles trailing behind me, I left a little pile in every room I sat in. I was asked to sign pa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 12:04 AM
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That is not how mens rea works. There are different levels of mens rea, only the highest requires that you intend the outcome of your actions. Not being aware that she was incapacitated is a poor defense as is, but if you can't tell that you are shoving rocks and debris into the vagina of an unconscious girl, then that falls well within the realm of negligent mens rea, if not outright recklessness. But really your best argument here is that Brock had sex with an unconscious girl hard enough that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/20 06:12 PM
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Yes, there have been many records that President Lincoln's wife was abusive. It was a known secret at the time but there was no recourse in the law for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 07:03 PM
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So their argument is that sexism doesn't matter if it's on certain social media sites? That doesn't even make any sense. It seems when a community is hateful towards women there's no arguments that it's okay because it's just a bunch of teenagers on Tumblr or Youtube.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/20 09:03 AM
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Thanks!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 10:36 PM
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There is a perception of male hyper-agency. That men cannot be victimized, that they are in control of everything that happens to them and therefore they should be expected to just fix everything that is wrong in their lives without inconveniencing others. Men can't be abused, or if they are they should just be able to leave, or just push her off. If he defends himself then he is the bad guy because it's not like a woman could hurt him to begin with. Men can't be raped. Or if they are, it's beca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 03:54 PM
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My experience is that a lot of women are guilty of this kind of thing. Making it either a "people problem" instead of a "gender problem", or just plain projection. Yes, feminists also argue that women tend to internalize their emotions to avoid being seen as overly emotional or hysterical. They become more passive aggressive, whereas men externalize their feelings and act more aggressive. So, whatever way the wind blows appears to be their new version of how emotions oppress women, even when the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 02:54 AM
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Yeah I don't even engage with feminists on Twitter, so I don't know what their points of views are for the most part. After #NotAllMen and #MaleTears and such I just assumed they were all nuts. Normal people don't consider it labor to listen to their friends or their loved ones when they are struggling. Everyone needs a support system. It's unfortunate a group of bitter women out there decided to weaponize being a support system into a gender issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 02:52 AM
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Lol it "triggers" people? I built my platform advocating for men's rights for years owning the insults that were thrown at me about being a gender traitor, a "tool of the patriarchy" and more. I'm not going to change it now because some people are sensitive on the internet. It's okay for them to constantly call me that but it's wrong for me to satirize it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 02:47 AM
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Preview the book before you buy it and see if it is up to par. Reviews can help too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 12:45 AM
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Why?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 10:52 AM
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Admittedly I have not listened to Reddit feminists discuss emotional labor in any depth but from other feminists that I have heard discuss the topic I don't think that is what would happen. Some feminists do complain about emotional labor when it comes to regulating men's emotions for them. Though a man maturely expressing his feelings and concerns is not the problem, rather they are criticizing how some men's inability to communicate their feelings creates more work. So, a man might lash out wi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 10:44 AM
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How is purchasing a book from a female author and reviewing it...discriminating against men? Helping promote female authors is bringing them to the market. That doesn't take away from men just because it's helping women. That's like saying me donating to a homeless shelter is divisive because I should care that everyone eats, not just homeless people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 07:19 AM
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The two are unrelated. Your view makes as much sense as saying that more men are victims of violent crime, so the solution, for justice's sake, is to commit violent crime against women. When the issue is that male authors are more likely to be published and given recognition by publishers simply because they are male and not because they are writing better, then taking the time to find, buy and promote books written by female authors is trying to bring more equality to the market. It is not the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 07:07 AM
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It seems more like you want to dig your head in the sand and pretend that everyone has an equal shot at success regardless of things like gender and color. And therefore there is no valid reason why people want to support companies owned by underprivileged owners. It also seems you don't understand most of what is even being spoken about but are quick to dismiss everything as invalid without doing any research.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 06:57 AM
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Unapologetically black in that it used the same types of ingredients and skincare that black people have been using for years on their skin and hair. Argon oil, African black soap, shea butter (hence the name Shea Moisture) and was designed with black hair and skincare needs in mind. Hydrating, restoring, smoothing, etc. The back of every product told the story of Sofi Tucker, who first started selling Shea butter in Sierra Leone in 1912. It specifically marketed itself towards black women. You …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 06:21 AM
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Many black women feel that they have been ignored and pushed out of the beauty industry. Foundation shades are not created to match their skin. Hair products are not formulated with their hair in mind. Lipstick shades do not flatter their skintones. Lotion products contain harmful ingredients and not those that the black community has been using within their homes. So, when they see a business that is not just accommodating to black women but it is unapologetically black, made for black women by…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 06:00 AM
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What harm does it cause if other black women want to support a black woman who started a company? Shea Moisture provided quality products but didn't have the money to pay for advertisement, so black women provided free promotion and advertisement for the company via reviews, Youtube channels, influencing and word of mouth to support what they saw as an ethical, quality black-owned company that needed help. Sure, it would be nice if other people would have helped good, small-owned businesses too.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 05:04 AM
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So you have a problem with black people for instance, preferring to go to black barber shops because they feel they know how to style black hair better? Or black women supporting and prompting companies like Shea Moisture because it was started by a black woman for the purpose of bringing products for black hair to the market?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 04:48 AM
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FGM and circumcision originated for the same purposes. The purpose was to reduce masturbation and sexual pleasure. The fact that so many feminists want to rug sweep that is unfair. Also, men who have been circumcised and hated it are often silenced, told it's all in their head or even made fun of. Though mostly they just aren't acknowledged at all. Some men have described a reduction in sexual pleasure, whilst others have described lifetime sexual dysfunction. They are often told that it isn't r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 08:36 AM
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Yeah I would say adding your thoughts into discussions of things like genital mutilation or discussing Intacktivism is completely fine. It can be seen as taking up space if you specifically go to an area reserved for talking about FGM just to ask when they will talk about male circumcision. Either topic can have its own space, or there can be spaces that discuss both. I'd also raise my eyebrow if people were discussing circumcision and a feminist came in demanding we talk about FGM.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 08:32 AM
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Yes, my apologies, I see where you were referring to now and I added an edit to my initial post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 08:29 AM
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In the West the procedure has been done with anesthetics in small infants but I think that is most common in church settings. What I can research shows that it often involves the use of a numbing cream on the skin, and then an injection to numb the area. Sometimes a pain medicine like acetaminophen is used as well. There is the clamp method, where a scope is inserted underneath the foreskin. The foreskin is pulled up and then clamped to reduce blood flow to the area and then a scalpel is removed…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 08:27 AM
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Yes, as a Christian some denominations encourage circumcision as well. I think one thing to keep in mind is that many of those teachings were written during a time where hygiene was harder to maintain than it was today. In the past certain rules like circumcision and not eating shellfish served a protective purpose for human health. Today however it's easy to clean under the foreskin to an acceptable level. We have warm running water and shower heads and soaps. Those are luxuries that weren't af…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 08:12 AM
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The origin of both was also the same. The goal at the time was to reduce sexual pleasure and masturbation. For some reason one of those things is seen as a horrible thing to do to women and the other is still seen as acceptable or not that bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 08:07 AM
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Because they are hypocrites. Their framework is based around the idea that women have men have the benefits in society. If something more prevalent and extremely unjust is happening to men rather than women, then they often find some way to rationalize how it doesn't "count" or it's not really that bad. Others, frankly, have sexual preferences for cut men. And they don't want to have to weigh how their personal preferences go against their stated beliefs. So again, they deny there is a problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 08:04 AM
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It depends. In some countries women are expected to be cut and may face a social stigma if they aren't. In the US there can also be a stigma against men who are uncut as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 08:00 AM
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Yes I have. Perhaps you need to do some research, it's not my job to do it for you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 07:50 AM
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The worst forms of FGM are more severe than circumcision, yes. Removal of the clitoris does remove all or most sexual sensation for women. In some cases they do sew the vaginal opening mostly shut with the intent that it will only be "opened" by the future husband. This can cause problems urinating and menstruating and therefore infection and as the result of these complications sometimes death. And of course having your vaginal canal ripped open during sex would be incredibly painful and is not…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/20 01:04 PM
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It was my name on Quora. I got into an argument with a feminist who told me something like women like me are just tools of the patriarchy. I facetiously told her that I prefer princess of the patriarchy and the name stuck.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 08:55 PM
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I support this 100%.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 10:27 AM
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The point of arguing that stay at home spouses should be paid for domestic labor is because they save the household money. If they didn't stay at home, they would have had to pay for their child to go to a daycare center or hire a nanny for instance. If they brought in a third party to do their work, the third party would get paid. So some people argue that people should get paid for doing the work no matter who they are. If a single person doesn't have kids then the issue of child care never co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 06:46 PM
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You read one line of what I wrote and then stopped there evidently.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 04:29 AM
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I know. The sources I looked into were talking as far back as the Roman Empire.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 02:12 AM
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I know. The sources I looked into were talking as far back as the Roman Empire.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 02:10 AM
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Interesting. I did try and research the early witch hunts but didn't find anything claiming men were the primary victims. For instance I found this quote: "Of the thousands of people tried and executed for the crime of witchcraft, 75 to 80 per cent were women." And the paper I am reading that off of his criticizing feminist interpretation of witch hunts and explaining more about male witch hunt victims. But as far as I can tell it does not dispute that more women than men were accused. https://w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 01:07 AM
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Yeah, I don't think there is anything necessarily wrong about pointing out that women were denied education and career opportunities (outside of prostitution). But by the same measure, men were forced to provide for an entire family on a single income and they often worked in dangerous factory conditions or dangerous manual labor conditions. Though one thing I will note is that many past homes, especially the Victorian homes, were quite dangerous in of themselves so at the time women did face so…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 12:11 AM
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Michigan inmate died of Covid-19 just before his release California reports first prison inmate death caused by Covid-19 Bexar County Jail inmate dies after contracting Covid-19 70-year-old Allendale Correctional Inmate dies from Covid-19 complications
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/20 12:20 AM
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Venezuelan press isn't at the forefront of western media, rightfully or wrongfully. It's more likely they don't know it's happening rather than they know and are ignoring it. As callous as it sounds Americans know very little of what is ever happening in the rest of the world, let alone Venezuela which barely registers on the radar. Europeans may be a bit more aware of other global crisis. But I don't really care for comparisons. There will always be something worse in life. Why care about food …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/20 09:43 PM
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I do agree with most of what you say. Though feminists are not entirely to blame. The origins of the criminal justice system in the West originally stated that women should not be sent to prison because they were too fragile to handle it. This predated feminist discourse and was just another function of gender roles. Later women were also able to escape imprisonment and execution if they were with child. The criminal justice system was always sexist. Feminists eventually managed to leverage the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/20 02:30 AM
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"I recognise that you really do need support. It seems to me this is not a case in which the public interest would be served in sending you to prison. "If you continue to act violently towards other people, there will come a time when a judge will." He handed her an 18-month community order, with a six-month alcohol treatment requirement, 20-day Rehabilitation Activity Requirement, and £100 fine. Women do usually become sympathetic on the stand even when they are the aggressors. Though I do agre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/20 12:33 AM
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Report her to management. Retail workers are replaceable and they won't want that kind of controversy. And screw worrying about what happens to her, she did it to herself by being inappropriate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/20 08:20 AM
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Okay, so then what is your problem? You got around the issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 10:24 PM
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You can but it usually gets caught after a while. My boyfriend created fake names, but within a few months they'd get taken down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 07:24 AM
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You have to verify your name so they can't make up a fake one to harass you. Plus that is what the report button is for. Regardless, not liking the real name policy doesn't mean the whole website sucks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 07:14 AM
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You're giving out your name, not your personal banking information. You don't even have to show your face if you don't want to. The point is that studies have shown that when people have to use their real name, they are more likely to be civil. And it works for the most part.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 09:04 PM
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Very well. But regardless, there was more context to the story than you initially portrayed, that's my only point. IF what she wrote was the truth then it wasn't very respectful behavior. And that is why people had an issue with it. It wasn't just because he pointed at his crotch and that's how you initially made it sound. That is all that I was attempting to clarify.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 09:11 AM
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Trying to shove your hands down someone's pants when they don't want you to do so and are trying to get your hand away does constitute force. But fair enough. I have acknowledged twice that she could have handled it better. The only other thing I have said is that he could have as well, because he was pushy and disrespectful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 08:47 AM
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That's a terrible thing to say honestly and harms all sexual assault victims, male and female. Is your belief that sexual assault is a made up myth that never happens or something? Listen, if you really believe what he did was totally appropriate and that people who have faced sexual violence do not deserve basic human decency towards them then that's on you. I don't see the point of continuing this conversation because we are never going to agree on that idea. Everything that she alleged in tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 08:30 AM
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Aziz did address the claims already. Ansari described it as "completely consensual." He added that she did later text him to say she felt uncomfortable, and that while he was surprised, he "took her words to heart and responded privately after taking the time to process what she had said."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 08:23 AM
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If she felt uncomfortable she should have either said so, or left. And that is what I said but apparently you didn't read. Appeasement is in fact a form of self-defense and a common one that is used by people in sexually coercive situations. You are also moving the goal posts. Your argument was that Aziz was characterized unfairly. The reality is that you left out all of the context of what he did and how disrespectful and pushy it was. Now you are trying to change the subject into whether he wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 08:18 AM
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There's a lot more to the Aziz Ansari incident than just him pointing to his penis. There was the part where he kept trying to force his fingers down her pants when she didn't want him to. Where he kept following her around the room as she tried to get away. Ansari began making a move on her that he repeated during their encounter. “The move he kept doing was taking his two fingers in a V-shape and putting them in my mouth, in my throat to wet his fingers, because the moment he’d stick his finge…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 07:23 AM
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Why?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 07:13 AM
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I agree that Puritanical Christianity is a problem in the US. I think for the rest of the world it may just be technology. People do a ton of socializing without any personal interaction because of texting and social media. Socializing has become more frequent but less personal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 01:36 AM
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I don't disagree. But sometimes their judgments vary widely enough to be contradictory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 10:32 PM
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That's like, your opinion man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 10:31 PM
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I agree that touch is an important part of human relationships. I don't agree that women sharing their experiences of sexual assault is to blame for people associating touch with sexuality. We do live in a puritanical culture, one that literally originated from the Puritans. One that associates touching with sex and indecency. One that argues men and women cannot simply be friends because sex is always a motivation in inter-gender interactions. The ones most responsible for touch being sexualize…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 09:18 PM
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Agreed
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 06:07 AM
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You're lucky that's all that happens to you lol. You forgot downvoted into oblivion and collapsed at the bottom of the page for a minor disagreement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 06:03 AM
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Yeah I have noticed that as well. The top comment will just be echoed by the others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 04:51 AM
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I read that one this morning. It was interesting. Though later today another thread came up where a man was mad at his wife for undermining the severity of his illness and convincing him not to go to the doctor and "man up". The majority of answers there were all that the wife sounded like a horrible person and she was being sexist. So, I don't know. AITA skews so oddly in judgments depending upon the time of day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 04:23 AM
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That's sad. My professors, including my criminal justice department head were generally very supportive of me and my interest in men's rights. One classmate even showed all our class (there were like fifteen of us in the whole program lol) a viral video that went around of a man discussing being raped to his friends and his torn reaction on the subject (crying but also laughing along with his friends) and we had a whole class discussion about how rape must be a hard subject for men to talk about…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 04:18 AM
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I spent a lot of time in an academic environment in which feminism was heavily, heavily enforced. When I was younger I bought into a lot of it, but later came to realise it did not match my values and was increasingly prejudiced and not based in reality. I got into men's rights for the same reason. I was blown away reading some of the feminist "literature" in the criminal justice field when I was in college. It was funny because sometimes the text books would mention feminist theory among other …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 01:03 AM
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Well he doesn't exactly explain why he thinks crime will magically disappear or be managed. He doesn't really say much at all. He just commented something irrelevant and devoid of rationale such that he can be safely ignored.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/20 11:18 PM
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Well that's your opinion. Clearly a full subreddit exists that disagrees with you and they are perfectly in their right to do that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/20 04:12 AM
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cause that's the only critique which exists in here. But now it comes up as her being an animal abuser, why? Cause it's convinent to bring up? What specifically is your argument? That animal abuse is okay and therefore is not a valid reason to criticize her? She's a horrible person because she abuses animals and may have killed her husband. That's not a controversial opinion anywhere. You're the one here who is trying to ask why people don't like her and then getting mad when people tell you. Wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/20 04:10 AM
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I'm not misrepresenting you. Nowhere in your post did you mention anything of the sort. I'm not even understanding what your question is supposed to be. There is not an expectation that one has to critique feminism, it's simply that this is a men's space that allows it. Because mens lib does not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/20 04:06 AM
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There are also leftist critique of how disproportionately the justice system doesn't give justice to women specifically, in cases of rape too, or murder, especially if they are black women. And so what? This is a subreddit about men's issues, not women's issues. But that's not even what I am talking about, and don't change the topic. I am not changing the topic and don't be so rude. You asked why we are discussing Carol Baskins instead of Joe Exotic, and I answered. Because there is a perception…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/20 03:59 AM
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I don't really see the relevance of this. People commit crimes and then cry in court all the time. They cry when they get arrested. They cry when they are getting transported to jail. They read long sob-story open letters. Sometimes it's because they are just looking to get a light sentence and sometimes they are genuinely remorseful. And sometimes they're just upset they got caught.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/20 04:19 AM
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That can be a problem. You have to sit on it fast and sweep it into the toilet as you get up. I don't know, I live in the US but that still sounds like a lot of work just to pee lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/20 10:38 PM
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That's unfortunate, seat protectors are useful. But I just use toilet paper. That sounds so challenging, I'd probably pull a muscle lol. But I'll take your word for it. I did know that! It's quite the debate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/20 10:28 PM
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I really can't imagine how it would be very doable to be clenching that many muscles to "hover" and still be able to pee. Plus I rarely ever see a anything on the seats in the women's bathroom that would indicate a mess issue. If you don't want to touch the seat, you just put down the seat protector or some toilet paper. I don't think I've ever heard of this before.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/20 10:21 PM
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Hovercrafts apparently.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/20 10:20 PM
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but they do realise women semi stand up/hover too right and so are more messy? I'm sorry, what? Why would we hover? That sounds quite difficult. It sounds like an incredibly stupid rule but the article itself is just as silly. Men should be able to pee standing up or sitting down without it being a social or political issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/20 05:06 AM
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The entire post itself is exposing that FDS is a hate sub that is transphobic, doxxes people, encourages social isolation and separates women into groups. It is not defending FDS, it's clearly and explicitly calling them a hate group. Now they clearly miss several points. For one, they don't call out the misandry of the subreddit and only focus on the ways it hurts women (outside of the doxxing examples). And some of the comments promote a conspiracy theory that it's just a bunch of male incels …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 09:44 PM
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The concept is referred to as female hypoagency and male hyperagency. Though I don't think there's been any switch. For example, if a woman and her child are the victim of domestic violence, then the general perception is that she was a victim too, that there was nothing she could do, and that she is in no way responsible for any harm done to her child. Alternatively, if a man is abused by a woman it's assumed that he's lying, or that he could have just shoved her away or just left with ease. In…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/20 10:10 PM
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Google search results may not be the same depending upon where one lives, especially if they live somewhere with another dominant language. As it stands it's just as easy to provide a link as it is to post something passive aggressive and snarky. Your intent was not to educate but to demean.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/20 10:17 PM
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I have no idea what the OP's problem is. But I looked up the book and it appears to be "The Privileged Sex" by author Martin van Creveld. Here is the synopsis: Ever since Betty Friedan published The Feminine Mystique back in 1963, all of us have been told that women are discriminated against, oppressed, exploited, and abused by men. The barrage of accusations is intense, relentless, and seems to have neither beginning nor end. But are the charges true? Do women really have a worse time of it tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/20 06:13 AM
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I think a few personal anecdotes is way too insufficient to conclude that men just don't leave the house. Personally I cannot say I have noticed any such issue. Additionally hanging out at someone's house or in a parking lot is still socializing. It's also free. Meeting at a restaurant is not free.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 08:06 PM
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That is interesting, I have read some research on the subject and even wrote a paper college on the benefits and detriments of legalization vs decriminalization but I never saw one where all of them were sex trafficking victims. I'm sure it's hard to study as well. I do not know a lot about Dominatrixes either. To my understanding they mainly do not engage in intercourse with their clients but rather more kink and fetish play. I think unfortunately sex workers will have a hard time proving rape …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 05:24 AM
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That is an interesting article, I would love to read it if you find it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 05:13 AM
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Your claim is that "no woman" would choose to become a sex worker. I'm pointing out that this is not the case. You are correct, being an independent escort is the best deal that one can get. But there are also escorts who like their jobs, and I've read their stories and updates on their work. Some of them find it very fulfilling because they feel like they connect with their clients and help them find their confidence or provide them with fulfilling experiences they are too shy to ask for. Some …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 03:59 AM
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Why are you asking a left wing subreddit to explain why President Trump would say something? President Trump doesn't take the corona virus seriously, you'll think he will take this seriously? If I knew what goes on in the brain of Donald Trump I'd probably be scarred for life. But yes, one major theme in the men's rights movement is how the criminal justice system can disproportionately sentence and target men. So, when it appears that a woman may be getting leniency for a crime that a man would…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 03:44 AM
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I've been on some heavily feminist subreddits who dislike Carol because they feel that she keeps the animals in abusive or neglectful situations which is why I don't want to watch it. I don't think that the full summary of why people don't like Carol is just because of a theory she murdered someone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 03:37 AM
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Boys are being raped more than ever, but unsurprisingly the perpetrators are still primarily men. However, a growing number of female pedophiles is becoming known. So who knows how that situation is going to go? This is a problematic assertion for several reasons. The first reason is that the way we classify rape (in federal reporting purposes) actually discludes many men who are raped by woman. Rape is defined as penetration. And the reason that is problematic is because few female rapists use …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 03:29 AM
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A majority of women were burned alive, drowned, hung for being witches. I'm fairly certain that the number one cause of death for women was child-birth not public execution. Perhaps I am misunderstanding your argument. Are you saying that majority of women in the world's history died via public execution? Do you have a source for that? FGM to remind you has no medical purpose (like male circumcusion can—all but eradicated penile cancer), is not performed in a sterile, medical manner Can you plea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 03:01 AM
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What I read just says that someone with AIS is genetically male but may have some or all female traits due to androgen insensitivity. I am assuming that your distinction is that not everyone who has androgen insensitivity syndrome identifies/presents as a woman but that their gender identity is also male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/20 02:41 AM
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All I can say is that the feminists on Reddit and the feminists on Quora are very different people. I'm banned from r/askfeminists for example. But I still had a lot of discussions with feminists on Quora. Here a lot more feminists appear to be rad fems. Feminists on Quora associate rad fems with TERFs and despise them. Reddit feminists here can be either/or, whereas feminists on Quora are almost exclusively sex-positive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/20 04:27 AM
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It actually took me a very long time to realize that engagement rings and wedding rings were not the same thing. It seems like such a waste of money anyway, to buy a ring just to stop wearing it later. I can understand when some women stack their engagement ring and wedding ring, but it still seems very expensive and wasteful. I told my boyfriend not to bother with an engagement ring. Plus, unless they are lab made diamonds can be so unethical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 11:28 PM
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Maybe he thinks it will sell his book more. Or maybe it's some kind of dog whistle for misandrists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 11:23 PM
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Proof that you see bodily autonomy in black and white only. I said that harm the crime of MGM does is a bigger atrocity, and you went berserk because what we really disagree What? The only thing I went "berserk" on is being called a liar. I don't disagree that circumcision causes harm or that it causes serious harm. , where him reacting to prevent harm means you can accuse him of infringing on someone's bodily autonomy, That's ridiculous. Everyone has a right to self-defense. Circumcising anothe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 11:21 PM
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Very well. I fully acknowledge that being accused of lying is a trigger point for me because I have tried to be very honest in my life and have been hurt very badly by someone who lied and gaslighted me. If you are genuine in your intention and not simply trying to name-call then I'll tell you where I think we disagree. I personally consider bodily autonomy to be a very serious issue, one of the most serious there is. Rape is a violation of bodily autonomy to me, and I consider rape a serious cr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 11:18 PM
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I agree, which is why I linked numerous research studies demonstrating that the supposed benefits of circumcision do not justify the practice on those who do not consent. However, my point was that I don't think the people who supported circumcision were "insane". I think that they believed they were doing the right thing but were mislead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 11:08 PM
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Womens enjoyment of sex only really arrives once shes with a man who fulfills the criteria she needs That's ridiculous. Provide facts and research to substantiate this please.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 06:43 AM
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I think a lot of women and young girls, especially those raised in purity culture, are taught a lot of internalized shame and discomfort around sex. As the result sex workers and other "sluts" are seen as worthless because that is what many young girls are taught about their sexuality. It's deeply discomforting for many young women to see another woman who embraces her sexuality. As for the claim that women are jealous that some men visit prostitutes rather than date them, I think that's likely …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 06:41 AM
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Quora
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 06:10 AM
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Either one!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/20 07:49 AM
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That you do not believe it is merely a bodily autonomy issue. You don't get to FGM levels of severity by believing that a change is irreversible. But that was not an accurate guess because I specifically told you that I do not see anything "mere" about a bodily autonomy issue. I do believe circumcision is a bodily autonomy issue. I don't know what else it would be. So you were presuming to tell me what I actually believe when you had no idea. Thank you for finally acknowledging that your uninfor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/20 07:42 AM
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I did not state that! You quoted what I said. Then what are you saying? What was your supposedly accurate guess? Because your analogy doesn't follow through with the conclusion that you want influence your interlocutor to draw. Huh? If I'm saying that circumcision is wrong, then that means circumcision is wrong. I could write the stupidest analogy in the world but if the words "circumcision is wrong" is contained within the post, then the meaning is clear. It's a bit like someone claiming that I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/20 04:35 AM
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I completely agree though that pretending MGM is all about bodily autonomy is a complete dead end. Okay, but then that means we disagree that circumcision is a bodily autonomy issue. Not that I'm lying about believing circumcision is a bodily autonomy issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/20 11:18 PM
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I am yes! I think when it comes to feminists they are more likely to listen to a woman, unfortunately. They at least usually want to hear what I have to say even if it's just to understand how I came to "oppress myself" with such "internalized misogyny". With men it's so easy for them to just say "mansplaining" and be done.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/20 11:17 PM
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I miss it too, and I miss you! I think you can inbox me now, it should be open. I'd like to hear about the theory lit review.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/20 11:15 PM
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It's interesting that you can type out my username and still misgender me lol. And don't bother to tag me while you talk about me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/20 10:49 PM
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I correctly interpreted what you thought, though. I made a statement about what you thought that was correct, because it wasn't a stretch. No you didn't? You stated that I don't believe circumcision is about bodily autonomy. But I do. So you were wrong. Where was this supposedly correct guess you made? You are misrepresenting yourself to the people you are talking to to claim that you agree with them when you do not. It is entirely possible to say both, yes, but the crux of why you are saying th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/20 10:43 PM
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MGM is irreversible, clearly harm is being done It's really not. Foreskin restoration is not a complete reversal and doesn't work for everyone or even restore the same sensitivity. Ear piercing on the other hand, if you take the earrings out the holes will close back up. My point is people get more outraged about a procedure that can be reversed than they do about a procedure that can't be. That's messed up. Also if you accent muh consent as the primary injustice, count on anti-vaxxers coming in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/20 10:35 PM
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His argument that he knows my true thoughts and beliefs without actually knowing me as a person? Okay, if that's bulletproof I suppose you believe in psychic mediums?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/20 10:28 PM
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You're just "leaving things out". Oh yes, it's not lying, that's completely different No, you're just putting words in my mouth. You are the one, a complete stranger might I add, who presumes to state what my true beliefs are when you know nothing about me. But you don't believe it's merely a bodily autonomy issue, do you? Ah, I see. Now you ask me what my beliefs are instead of just telling me what to think and calling me a liar. A surprisingly civilized turn. A shame you couldn't have started …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/20 06:19 AM
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Lying is a great way to persuade people, but it isn't a great way to have people actually work with you as partners. You don't believe circumcision is merely a bodily autonomy issue. Excuse me, but I am not lying. And yes, I do believe circumcision is a bodily autonomy issue. What else would it be? Many of these people would not want the UN to oppose circumcision because if that happened then FGM might become legal. That doesn't even make logical sense. If the UN made circumcision illegal becaus…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/20 05:22 AM
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On the previous website I was on, where I had my largest men's rights platform, I used to be appalled by the lack of support/agreement from feminists on a large portion of the issues and saw the feminists there (it is a heavily feminist website) as being antagonistic and hypocritical. However, after observing over a lot of time I managed to learn how to avoid common pitfalls and gain a lot of feminist allies on my side. I had to modify my language on some issues to avoid getting derailed. For in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/20 08:04 PM
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Biden does appear to be more handsy than other people. Not in a sexual way, just that he tends to touch people on the shoulders or back as a sign of friendship in a way that other political candidates don't. There's also been plenty of videos where he appears to have made people feel uncomfortable. He seems to just lack a general perception of other's personal space. It's not a mystery to me how he became seen as a bit of a creep, because some of his interactions with others have been downright …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/20 10:43 PM
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It always irritated me that I could watch my fellow male advocates say something and be dismissed, belittled or ignored. But then if I came in and basically restated what they said verbatim feminists would have a discussion with me. It definitely lends more credibility to be a woman debating a feminist than a man. On the other hand, their insults can be a lot more targeted, bordering on sexist. Men might just get shut down with "no uterus, no opinion" or called a misogynist, which isn't nice. Bu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/20 10:37 PM
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I looked back into your comment history to see what you had posted and how you were dismissed. Rather than being dismissed however, people simply expressed confusion on what it was you wanted them to look at. You provided links without any context and left people to scroll through multiple PDFs not knowing what information you were trying to highlight. Your problem has a lot less to do with people dismissing you and more so to do with your ability to communicate effectively. Even with this post,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/20 10:27 PM
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I don't see how rightfully pointing out where mental illness is a factor is excusing something or turning it into a simple mistake. If someone is a decent person but becomes a violent, raging drunk that doesn't mean beating their spouse every time they drink is okay. It just means that a more permanent solution may be court ordered rehab for alcoholism rather than a consistent string of DV convictions. If someone is mentally ill and has a pattern of delusions, then perhaps a mental facility is a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 10:37 PM
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As a woman I read the post you linked. I do not see where this person excused or defended wolf whistling. He did not say "wolf whistling is natural behavior and women just need to accept it". He said that wolf whistling is a natural biological urge and people need to learn to control their impulses. He is saying it's natural but he is not claiming that all natural urges are good or acceptable. Your main disagreement appears to be in whether wolf whistling is natural or whether it's a product of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 06:48 PM
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That's fine, if it works for you. What works for you doesn't work for everyone else and vice versa. That's the point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 06:57 AM
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You know what I mean. If you grow emotionally and romantically attached to the people that you have sex with, ie, find it difficult to separate emotions from sex then casual sex is not a good idea. Entering into a long-term casual sex arrangement when you know you'll catch feelings is an even worse idea.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 04:35 AM
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So if you had sex and you didn't enjoy it. You would automatically understand that it was because of how casual it was? That's not what I said. I said that if you know that you get attached to your sexual partners, then you would know that you are likely to get hurt if you have sex with someone you won't see again. I've said this three times now. And that's fine. Some people don't know. But some people do. There's nothing wrong with either one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 04:01 AM
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But how can you possibly know that if you've never had sex? Depends. If you are demisexual you would know without having had sex. Otherwise it would just be based on your sexual values, like if your religion was against it or you didn't want to do it. the implication behind your comment reads as though you've definitely had sex with and without that strong emotional connection. How else would you know the latter it's so distasteful for you Yes and I am saying that you don't have to have had casu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 01:53 AM
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i don't see how consensual sex that you can stop anytime with if you're uncomfortable can be traumatic. Nobody is forcing you to go through with it. Forcing yourself to go through sexual experiences you don't want or enjoy can also lead to the development of sexual aversion and trauma. Look at the affect that duty sex has on the spouses of those in the DB community. They are consenting, they can stop at anytime but they continuously force themselves to have duty sex they don't enjoy because they…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 08:50 PM
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That's okay
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 08:11 PM
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I think I do now. I think I never make a move because I feel internally that I am not wanted sexually or even as a person. It's incredibly unfortunate for a lot of guys because you usually have to be the one to ask someone out and initiate things if you want to get somewhere. Insecure girls can just stand in a corner and look cute and may even be desired for the whole "show her how beautiful she is" romance. But for guys, if you don't make the first move then you may not get many women initiatin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 07:51 PM
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Just be honest and communicate that you are nervous. A lot of people are not going to shame you for it, especially if it's someone close to you. But if you just freeze up and don't speak they might think you are repulsed by them, which can lead to an entirely negative reaction. You don't have to fake that you aren't nervous, just communicate and work through it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 07:39 PM
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I was completely transparent in my comment that I'm a woman. My username is pretty obvious too. And in this case I was defending a man who the OP was replying to, so I don't see your point. Just because OP is willing to have a discussion with me doesn't mean he believes I'm a man. Some people are capable of having conversations with women too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 07:36 PM
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How can you know it's traumatic without ever experiencing it. So you think everyone should get raped once in their life in order to see if it's actually traumatic or not? Sometimes it's pretty obvious whether something is going to be trauma inducing. But your argument is basically "traumatize yourself so you know whether or not it's traumatic" when it's really just as easy and much more beneficial to engage in the experiences you enjoy and want to have rather than force yourself through the ones…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 07:35 PM
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Disingenuous to who? Just because you have to try everything once to understand what you like doesn't mean everyone else does. What is the purpose of putting yourself through a bad or traumatic sexual experience just to be sure that you don't like it? You can easily have the kind of sex you prefer and not have to dally with things that seem unpleasant to you. There's enough variation in sex that you can try a hundred things you are excited to try without having to force yourself through the one …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 05:53 AM
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Having a healthy degree of self-respect is an asset in dating. But it isn't the only thing necessary
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 05:30 AM
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So do a lot of girls if they aren't conventionally attractive. Yeah I think you need to have some foundation of self-love that is based on more than just exterior validation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 04:56 AM
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I get what you were doing. I said that sometimes people also know what their boundaries are and telling them they can't have any unless they have tried everything is a good way to set people up for bad experiences. If someone feels confident that they are straight without having to sleep with the same-sex then they are free to identify as heterosexual without having gay sex first. If someone is certain they need an emotional connection with the person they are having sex with they are free to ha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 04:54 AM
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it did more for me than years of reading online dating advice and BS. That's interesting, I actually had the opposite experience. At the time when I was in college, and I had more guys than I knew what to do with expressing desire in me and trying to get me to sleep with them, it actually destroyed my self-esteem and made me feel worthless. I had to re-align with my own self-worth and self-confidence and stop seeing myself the way I felt guys saw me. I suppose that could just be a difference in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/20 11:04 PM
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Not the OP but the list appears to be: Rejection no longer seemed as intimidating (after being rejected and realizing the world didn't end). Shooting his shot as often as possible via apps and online dating Building confidence based off of feeling desired by his initial matches Keeping an abundance mindset Going to the gym helps
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/20 10:51 PM
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But the implication behind your comment reads as though you've definitely had sex with and without that strong emotional connection. How else would you know the latter it's so distasteful for you. How do you know that you are straight unless you have slept with a man? People are capable of making educated decisions about what they are and aren't comfortable with. And while pushing yourself out of your comfort level can be good to an extent, forcing yourself into sex you don't want to have with t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/20 10:43 PM
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Yes. But it's not like the only available options are DNA evidence or listening to only the plaintiff. There's witness testimony, circumstantial evidence, the police interrogation, confessions, surveillance footage, etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/20 07:58 AM
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I can't speak for UK law. But it's common for there not to be forensic evidence in a rape trial because unless there is substantial documented injury the only thing it will show is that sex occurred. That doesn't help much of anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/20 03:57 AM
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Be that as it may, it's still a guide that shows that too drunk to consent does not simply mean drunk sex. It means sex with someone who is unconscious or incapacitated. I don't see the point of hammering on this. There is no jurisdiction where drunk sex is considered rape. Regret is also not rape. There has to be evidence to charge a rape case, which is difficult to obtain even in forcible rape cases. If a victim has enough memory recollection then that in of itself would serve against the noti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 09:18 PM
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Well lovely chatting with you then.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 10:10 AM
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Then since you are convinced, tell me what the value is in looking and analyzing at the statements of fringe, radical groups like Gender Critical. What is this sub getting out of it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 08:37 AM
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Hence why I use the word "usually" and not "always". Courts of laws tend to rarely want to prosecute it and the guide shows that. But I also said "or that she's incoherent and doesn't know what is going on." But nowhere in that guide does it say "drunk sex is rape". In fact its entire purpose is to distinguish between drunk sex and being too drunk to consent. Which is my point. No court of law considers drunk sex to be rape.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 08:34 AM
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I haven't read it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 08:27 AM
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That's insane. It's a wonder people like them are even willing to have children, lest it be a boy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 08:27 AM
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Well as evidenced by the response people are getting on this sub for posting that trash here, no a lot of people don't care. You're listening to the ravings of a bunch of idiots and acting like what they have to say has any relevance. You may as well go to a KKK rally and start posting the things they say. Or the Westboro Baptist church. These people are insane, everyone knows they are insane and there's no reason to pay them any attention because that's all they want. and pro-male men care Nice…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 08:22 AM
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They can be unintentionally hilarious in what they say sometimes, but that's about it. They sound like a group of very bitter and unhappy people with a major victim complex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 07:19 AM
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"Breaking News, GenderCritical said something stupid and bigoted. This and other news at 7" Who cares what GenderCritical says? Not a sane person in the world takes that sub seriously. Not even the majority of feminists take rabid TERFS seriously.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 06:04 AM
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I'm aware of that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 02:06 AM
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Yes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 01:40 AM
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Yes they should do so but we don't teach boys that in sexual education. We only teach it to girls.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 01:40 AM
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"Now rape also includes a woman who makes a bad decision to have sex while drunk." No it doesn't. Drunk sex isn't rape is any jurisdiction. It may be on some college campuses but they can't enforce legal penalties, only school penalties. If she made a decision to have sex she wasn't too drunk to consent in the first place. Too drunk to consent usually means she was unconscious due to voluntary alcohol consumption and someone climbs on top of her. Or that she's incoherent and doesn't know what is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 08:40 AM
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I don't think we have broadened the definition without changing the punishment. The difference between first degree murder and manslaughter is huge. There's a ton of crimes in between first degree murder and manslaughter, but manslaughter is oftentimes an unintentional accident. And first degree murder is premeditated intent. The difference in the updated definition of rape is that we previously required victims to fight back in order to be considered rape victims and there had to be evidence of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 08:30 AM
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This definition means it is not rape for a wife to drug her husband, tie him up, and force him to have sex against his will. True, that's why I believe made to penetrate should be considered rape. By overly broad, I mean that they also include mutually consensual, drunk sex as rape. A few places have too drunk to consent laws, but they have very stringent standards for one to be considered too drunk to consent. The victim either has to be unconscious due to voluntary alcohol intoxication (and un…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 07:28 AM
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Well if you consider "penetration no matter how slight of the vagina, anus or mouth without consent" as an "overly broad" definition of rape then I guess we can just agree to disagree. I would prefer if people didn't feel the need to penetrate unwilling participants and I do find it questionable at best to claim 1/3 of the US population makes a habit of this behavior on a regular basis, women included. Namely, because it is known to be relatively uncommon for female rapists to penetrate their vi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 06:31 AM
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Many women don't go into a fight, flight or freeze response from getting cat-called on the street. They want to advocate for themselves, but are advised not to for fear of how the person will retaliate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 06:06 AM
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This isn't about individual people, this is about critiquing society as a whole. As a whole, we teach women and young girls to be afraid and to perceive men as dangerous. As the end result, women are afraid. This negatively impacts their lives. This negatively impacts men's lives. Getting angry at individual women for being afraid, rather than holding the culture as a whole responsible for teaching them to think this way is unhelpful and misguided.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 06:05 AM
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Well when every day men are being lynched from trees then we can compare women ordering a new drink when they return from the bathroom to avoid date rape drugs to racism against black men in America's history. My point is not that the stigmatization of men is fair, it's that it is a learned fear that women are taught. Teaching people something and then blaming them for learning it is illogical behavior and has negative ramifications in the lives of both men and women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 05:59 AM
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I mean a bouncer may not want to punch some woman in the face, but I feel like a lot of unruly women get at least get escorted out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 10:49 PM
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I was attacked, put in a chokehold and almost dragged into a back alley by an out of control drunken stranger who became weirdly fixated on me right in front of a bouncer. I screamed for help, the bouncer looked over and made eye contact with me and then walked away because I was technically a few feet outside the entrance of the club and not within the premises, therefore he didn't have to do anything. I don't look at bouncers as the epitome of ethical virtues, be it chivalry or anything else.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 10:45 PM
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It shows that women before the age of 10 are given conversations and discussions that ingrain this fear in them. "Justified" doesn't really come into it. We can't teach girls from their childhood into adulthood to be afraid and then start blaming them for being afraid afterwards.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 10:34 PM
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Yeah but a club is a public place with other people around which I already addressed as an exception. I also don't think it's "a ton". Clubs tend to be the gathering place of drunken and out of control behavior. I don't use the behavior of men at night clubs as being representative of how men everywhere behave either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 10:23 PM
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You're not wrong lol. Research shows that women fear rape more than any other crime, consistently alter their behavior to accommodate this fear, and have this fear ingrained in them before they are even 10 years of age. Women are taught fear of men from the time we are pretty young. You can see it in the differences in sexual education between girls and boys, even the common joke that women always go to the bathroom together in a group instead of alone. It's a negative thing for both men and wom…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 04:48 AM
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- if it’s a woman, men wouldn’t feel comfortable confronting her or speaking up. If it’s a man, women feel especially comfortable and confident in confronting him. What? I really don't think for a second that women on the whole feel comfortable getting into confrontations with men. That's one of the reasons so few women fight back when they are being sexually assaulted, or talk back to cat-callers. We're told to just de-escalate and avoid confrontation because you never know what he'll do to you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 04:23 AM
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I like the National Coalition for Men. At least what I know about them. They have some great successes on their page. Maybe also include links to the work of some Intacktivist organizations?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/20 11:41 AM
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There are plenty of examples where innate traits of men are also good. But the OP appeared to be asking for examples where men did something good rather than something negative. So that is why I provided an example of men doing things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/20 09:46 PM
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I don't know the specifics of each allegation. But it isn't uncommon for violence to be reciprocal in relationships so it can be possible that someone can be both an offender and a victim. It's not always as cut and dry as one person being the all-evil abuser and one person being the victim. Sometimes it's just toxic couples arguing and slapping each other around on different occasions. It’s a myth to say, as Mr. Depp apparently is implying, that if Ms. Heard slapped him, then she can’t also be …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 01:07 AM
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Part 2: Another circle of hell: To be seen as credentialed, women often have to produce more-detailed policy proposals than men, whose legitimacy are generally presumed. “We expect more of women in order to be credentialed,” Reynolds notes. “They can’t get away with broad policy strokes. They need policy details. But then the details are where they get in trouble.” I'm pretty sure one of the largest questions of Sanders is how he plans to fund the proposals that he has. It may be true that certa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 06:23 PM
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Part 1: Then came the report that at a precampaign dinner in December 2018, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders told Warren that he didn’t believe a woman could win the presidency. Even if Sanders did say this, which he vehemently denies, I don't think there is any sexism in it. Sanders was not saying that he didn't think a woman could win because he thinks women are incapable, unintelligent or not fit for office. He was (allegedly) speaking to the political climate and the doubt that Trump era Ameri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 06:23 PM
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Yes but I noticed that the person you were replying to was not in a court of law.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 05:20 PM
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A lot of people OD on heroin because the concentration varies. They don't know how much they need to take before they will feel an effect, because every batch they get is different. Sometimes street drugs are also laced with other drugs like fetanayl they were not expecting. A lot of overdoses are accidental and based on these variations. If we were to be providing heroin then we could ensure that it was free of any of the fillers and unsafe chemicals currently in street drugs. A safe dosage cou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 10:44 AM
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Men are most likely to take on dangerous jobs for the betterment of others. EMT's, firefighters, surgeons, police officers, etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 10:20 AM
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They don't really get a pass. That sub is infamous and any user from there that tries to go to another feminist space like ask feminists is automatically banned. I don't defend feminism often, but TERFS are pretty universally despised even by other feminist subreddits and outside of Reddit as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 09:43 AM
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I really don't see the point you are attempting to make. I don't agree with TERFS but their point is that a large portion of the historical and present oppression of women (however they see it) is based around female reproduction. Pregnancy, menstruation, child-birth, sex, female sexual disorders, etc. And that a trans woman who never has had to worry about these things does not and cannot relate to female oppression in the same way. Hysterectomy, tubal ligation and stopping menstruation are all…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 09:33 AM
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Just because it isn't illegal doesn't make it right. There is a certain understanding that it is uncouth behavior to walk into a dressing room you don't need to be in for the sole purpose of staring at underage people naked. Is that really the hill you want to die on?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 09:22 AM
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Not at all. The presumption of innocence is in a court of law, not in personal life. If your mother told you she had been assaulted would you automatically call her a liar because "I must assume innocence! Provide me proof you didn't put those bruises in your own face mom!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 09:19 AM
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To the women here complaining about the delusional narcissism and entitlement of mentally insecure people... Something between 2-15% of Americans identify as feminists, and a good portion of those people are men. Where do you think these insecure narcissists learnt all these tactics from? Where do you think they learnt all this behaviour from? Where do you think they learnt these nonsense reasoning thought processes from? Are you saying that you believe narcissistic personality disorder arose fr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 09:12 AM
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I don't think anyone has claimed that people specifically transitioned to rape people. Just that they would lie about their gender identity to get into female only spaces, like the restroom.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 09:09 AM
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Yes harm is a fair way to talk about it. You can discuss it any way that you would like to. I personally feel like it's been more productive for me to leave the FGM comparisons out and talk strictly about circumcision. When you want to be convincing sometimes you have to know and speak to your audience and to me, the audience are people who feel strongly about FGM. As such I have found it better to leave comparisons out and focus on that subject.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 04:07 AM
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I'm not disagreeing that they are unjust. But I don't see how having unproductive conversations is preferable to having productive ones. It irks people when it's compared to FGM. It doesn't irk people when you talk about circumcision as a bodily autonomy issue all on its own.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 12:35 AM
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It is possible. That you don't want to do so is understandable but I've discussed it numerous times without bringing up FGM once. Very productive and supportive discussions at that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 11:53 PM
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So what do you do when you are in a relationship? Are you still uncomfortable with viewing women sexually or do you feel differently when it's people you're romantic with vs people you aren't? Just curious, you don't have to answer if it's too personal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 04:26 AM
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I don't forsee many women "waiting for an opportunity to accuse you" of sexualizing her. Especially for something as mundane as an innocent glance. If you don't want to look because that is what makes you feel most comfortable that is fine! But I think people are pretty used to being checked out from time to time. I've personally never known anyone or seen anyone get upset about that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 03:10 AM
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Sure but that isn't upsetting. Upsetting would be using a go pro to try and take upskirt pictures of unsuspecting women. Or spying with binoculars into someone's bedroom. A glance while you're walking by isn't a big deal. It's also just a matter of respect. There's a difference between glancing down at my chest but then looking back up at my eyes and listening and engaging in the conversation, vs intensely staring at my chest and not paying attention to what I'm saying to you. Plus research has …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 02:35 AM
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I don't really think you can traumatize someone by having thoughts in your head. I'm a woman, if you're thinking something in your head how would I know about it enough for it to bother me? Being sexualized doesn't mean the existence of sexual attraction, it's more about behavior. But it can also be about societal attitudes. Example 1: Women who are trying to breast feed in public are shamed and told to cover up because they are "exposing" themselves and titillating men by feeding their baby. Th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 01:30 AM
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Personally, I don't think it does, precisely because it invites this time of derailment and people getting overly offended about a side point. I've never seen this type of equivalence work well. I have seen people discuss the detriments of circumcision without bringing up FGM and have much more productive conversations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 12:55 AM
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Then don't bring it up as an equivalence. It's possible to talk about circumcision without discussing FGM. It's bodily autonomy that is the important focus of the discussion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 12:11 AM
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I agree. Don't let them derail the subject, just bring it back to the main point. It's just bait.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/20 02:39 AM
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Except the thread was unanimous that he was not in the wrong, the girlfriend was. And of course it was revealed that she cheated on him and that's why she was having this over the top meltdown. It's not proof of your theory at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 10:03 PM
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I mean, I watched her documentary a few years ago in college so I can recall some parts of it. But it would probably be more efficient to just watch it yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOD-VYAXDd4
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/20 12:50 AM
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If you are not referring to abortion then I have no idea what you are talking about. There is no law that allows the killing of infants.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/20 10:53 PM
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I still don't think it's as bad as the one that said it's cultural appropriation to eat cuisine from different cultures. But this one is indeed the level of cringe, misandry and shallow thinking that permeates that website.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/20 07:25 AM
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You're definitely right. That's something I was even going to incorporate into my book. That sometimes women are the aggressors, and men are the victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/20 08:11 PM
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These are helpful points, thank you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/20 07:30 AM
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I don't understand why you are telling me this. I just threw out a few examples of other racial stereotypes to demonstrate that black women seem to be the only ones that stereotype is "angry and undesirabe" whereas other racial stereotypes objectify. I never said it was an exhaustive list of all the racial stereotypes in the world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/20 03:28 AM
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How is that a stereotype that black men are undesirable? That stereotype, like the Asian stereotype, leads to fetishization, not being labeled as an undesirable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/20 02:25 AM
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I think there was a survey that found that people rated black women and Asian men the least desirable on dating websites. Black women do have some legitimate struggles with dating. Traditional beauty standards tend to focus more on white women, and it wasn't that long ago it was rare to see a black model in a beauty ad. There's even problems with companies making foundation and lipstick colors that match/go with black skin tones. Next time you're in a beauty aisle look at how many foundation sha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/20 02:34 AM
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Less radical, almost 100% sex positive. There's no TERFS, they're more educated, but more condescending. Less aggressive but more self-assured. But on Quora it's a faux pas to downvote someone simply because you disagree with them, on Reddit disagreeing with feminism just gets you downvoted to oblivion. Quora is an entirely different world from Reddit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/19 11:32 PM
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Yes, it's a cycle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/19 01:05 AM
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I think it depends. There's value in recognizing that some people are going to struggle more with social cues. But then there's also a difference between recognizing hardship and coddling people. Having a harder time does no equate to something being impossible to learn. If an autistic man for instance doesn't understand something like that over-sharing on a first date can be a turn-off then that is a moment that involves some compassion and understanding. He's not being a creep, he's just not a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/19 12:51 AM
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It's not just listening to the media. We have research that shows that women are socialized from a young age to fear rape, and to take protective measures. Even when we evaluate the differences in the way that girls and boys are educated about sex in the US we see that boys largely learn about preventing pregnancy and STD's and girls learn a lot more about never leaving their drink unattended, always telling someone where they will be meeting a new date, and generally learning to be afraid. It's…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/19 12:24 AM
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They aren't just exposing themselves naked, they're usually pressuring them to touch them or interact with them in some way. Putting instant sexual pressure on an unsuspecting person can very often lead to people feeling afraid, feeling pressured to make a split second decision, feeling retraumatized if they have had previous sexual trauma, etc. Having been put in very aggressive sexual situations myself, when I was not suspecting it, I know how terrible it feels and how suddenly scary it feels …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/19 07:43 PM
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Yeah I called that out a lot. That I can restate the same thing a male advocate had said but he would get downvoted or reported, and I would get taken more seriously. There was definitely a bias.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/19 07:39 PM
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Indeed, that's how I grew my following on Quora. Quora feminists however are fairly different from Reddit feminists I think.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/19 12:04 AM
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Quora
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/19 11:47 PM
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It does. Quora
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/19 11:45 PM
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I mean, on the last website I was on, the majority of us that were fighting against the feminists and advocating for men were women. There were men as well, but they were silenced more easily so we took the helm instead. It's pretty cut and dry to support equality regardless of gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/19 06:41 PM
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Wow that was a really lame insult lol. No refutation, no intelligent discourse just LoW TeStErOOOOOne, baaad. Thank you, for this truly riveting contribution to society. Now, go.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/19 12:15 AM
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Quora is all I got. I'm starting a Youtube channel soon though if that helps.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/19 09:00 PM
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I agree
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/19 08:55 PM
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I agree. Some feminists tend to conflate men as one homogeneous, powerful group instead of seeing the vast differences between men in power, middle class men and lower class men. Not to mention, race, sexual orientation and anything else that can affect views, politics and life experience
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/19 08:07 PM
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Well I think about half of women are pro-life so it's not men that are doing it to women. There's a lot of pro-choice men and a lot of pro-life women. I think some feminists just have extra animosity for pro-life men because they feel like those men never have to go through pregnancy but are trying to regulate it. "No uterus, no opinion" kind of mentality. Men are usually the ones in government or the ones writing legislation so they perceive that men in power are the ones who are writing laws a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/19 07:55 PM
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I'm actually the one who got my boyfriend away from feminism lol. I was becoming an activist for men's rights and he was on a college campus with some very hardcore feminists, and not ones I thought were sane. At one point he finally asked me "I don't understand why you have such a problem with feminism" and I snapped. I showed him my writing, my concerns and what I had found. He came over to my side right away and luckily the rabid feminists on his campus showed their true colors soon enough. I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/19 09:33 AM
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Are you referring to sex selective abortion or just religious debates about the legality or abortion?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/19 09:03 AM
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You said to take any claims of disadvantages with "a grain of salt" which to me implies you are saying to not believe the stories about honor killings or FGM. So if that's not what you are saying, what do you mean?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/19 04:35 AM
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That is true, but those aspects of the religion are rarely followed or preached about in most churches or denominations. There's plenty of places that now allow women to become pastors, and women are very active in churches in general, being youth leaders and such. While those things are in the Bible, they don't have much real-world impact on women anymore such that they won't deter them. Christianity states that while God and Jesus were the inspirations for the Bible, regular men were the ones …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/19 12:26 AM
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I don't see any reason to believe that things such as honor killings or FGM are made up conspiracy theories as opposed to real world events. It is true that reporting on such things can be biased, showing only the disadvantages women face. But that does not mean to me that the women face zero disadvantages and it's all made up. I can simultaneously denounce FGM and male circumcision, and point out that both are real-world phenomena.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/19 12:24 AM
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I don't think atheism entails "fighting against" religion first of all. Beyond some archaic values that almost no one applies anymore (in developed nations) I think the argument is more so that the application of religion is often sexist in nature, not that it is inherently part of the religion. For instance, The Bible values sex within a marriage. Premarital sex should be frowned upon equally for devout men and women. But it's women who tend to get slut shamed more harshly in religious communit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/19 09:11 PM
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Precisely
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/19 08:32 AM
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I think it's perfectly logical to be able to observe that when sudden political change happens, there can be both positives and detriments in the lives of people living there. It isn't difficult to say "women have experienced economic and educational growth" and also say "women's sexual freedom has reduced significantly". Both of these things can be true at the same time. FGM is rampant in Egypt and Somalia for instance. In Pakistan around a thousand women are killed in honor killings annually. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/19 11:33 PM
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Thank you! I may write a rebuttal to this piece and link it here. Most of my published articles were about relationship topics, but my writing on gender and men's rights is heavily concentrated on Quora. You also make an excellent point! The article also mentions that once the mill in the area shut down, men lost their jobs, but states that the women work in retail/food industry jobs in the area. I'd be interested to know if the women in the area were also working in the mill and the mine in the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/19 11:04 PM
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I clicked the link and was given a short preview with a demand that I subscirbe to read it. What little I did see was so insulting, I ended up going into the page source to read the article and honestly, it's bad. They are essentially recognizing that there is a problem, with a poor education system leaving many men unable to find jobs, as blue collar jobs in the area shut down. But the tone of the article is basically making a mockery of the situation, almost laughing at them as being dumb lose…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/19 05:22 AM
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Yes, the content of the post was very good
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/19 12:41 AM
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I mean I agree with the overall sentiment but not the title. "shows it's mainly about overweight women wanting to be victims." I think the proper solution is that male bodies need to be normalized and men need to be included in a movement of self-acceptance. We need to make it just as taboo to make fun of men's bodies as it is to make fun of it the other way around. I don't believe that it's at all a bad thing that it is fairly taboo to body shame women for their weight or the size of their brea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/19 12:34 AM
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I didn't think you were saying it, I just think that there is no logical reason to conclude that lion behavior has any relation to human behavior whatsoever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 11:52 PM
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That's not true. People can and do unlearn sexual repression all the time and go on to have healthy and fulfilling sex lives. Saying it's impossible is demonstrably false. Yes it would help, no one is saying it wouldn't be beneficial.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 08:04 AM
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It still doesn't take a movement, it takes self-growth. It would be nice to have a moment to reinforce healthy sexual attitudes but sex and sex education has become politicized.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 07:48 AM
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I would say there is a smaller movement to end virgin shaming, which is typically what men are the victim of. But that's not really relevant to the topic at hand. You asked what should be done, and I told you. None of those things are dependent upon a movement, they are just dependent on self-growth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 07:00 AM
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The same as your options when you are taught that wanting sex makes you a slut and too easy. You realize it's a toxic cultural standard and work to untangle those messages from your identity, and grow your sexual confidence. No, they are not which is unfortunate because parity would be ideal here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 06:23 AM
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Yes, that something being...not having social anxiety. It's not logical to think that the only option is to be a terrible human being or be forever alone. Those are not healthy thought processes. And for some guys, simply rejecting their offer also warrants harassment. Many women have met a few of those "some" as well. Some just suck, that's the price of dating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 05:42 AM
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The angle I presented was that men are perceived to have hyper-agency and women are perceived to have hypo-agency, therefore both claims are true. How is that "only presenting one side?". I never said that it was only due to benevolent sexism. In fact benevolent sexism has nothing to do with it, which is why I never used that term. The research we have shows that self-defense makes up a small portion of reported relationship violence. I do believe that men need more resources for domestic violen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 04:47 AM
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When the act of even expressing interest is treated like sexual harassment by some. the only men who get ahead are the ones who aren't afraid of being labelled as such. I was referring to that quote. For that to be true, that would mean the majority of men are okay with it because the majority of men are not celibate for life. In reality I don't think most people in general see the choice as "be a terrible person or be forever alone". But the constant messages of "everything you do to express in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 03:49 AM
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That's a pretty negative view you have there. That means you believe that the majority of men are willing to sexually harass women if it gets them laid because a very small number of Americans are celibate for life. In reality, there's a middle ground between "harass women if you want sex" and "never approach women for fear of harassment." I think it's more so that it's a small but outspoken group of SJWs who have insisted that any approach is harassment, when in reality we know that women tend …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 03:08 AM
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I can't speak for all discrimination issues but I can speak at least somewhat for criminal justice issues. There's a lack of funding. People tend to feel more sympathy for female victims than male victims, so trying to get the funding necessary is difficult. Showcase a battered woman and people want to help. A battered man? It doesn't get the funds necessary. The other issue sometimes is just finding men to participate. Like, say you want to do a self-report survey on domestic violence. A lot of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 01:24 AM
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I mean you seem to be conflating objectification with sexual attraction. You can think your partner is sexy and still not be reducing them to the equivalent of a human flesh light. Something as simple as caring about your partner's pleasure means you are not objectifying them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 01:20 AM
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I mean how much influence do lions have on human reproduction? Female lions are accepting whom they see as the strongest alpha, because he is the one who will be challenged by other male lions, and who has to stay alive to protect his/their cubs. Female lions know that if another male lion comes in and kills their alpha, he will then proceed to kill all of their offspring. That's why they value strength and aggression in an alpha lion over all other traits. In human beings, we don't typically as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 01:06 AM
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I don't disagree with what you said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 12:47 AM
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I don't disagree that this is a factor. But how do you explain the differences in sentencing for white people and black people? I mean I'm pretty sure we do have research that indicates that people unconsciously associate black people as appearing more threatening or violent. As for the specific discrepancies, it's a very, very complex topic that I could write an essay on (and have for a school project). But it's not as simplistic as "just racism" but also not as simple as "black people just com…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 12:38 AM
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I mean, either side of this is true. I work in criminal justice and it is absolutely the truth that throughout history, women were not incarcerated because it was assumed they were too fragile to survive jail conditions. Women have also historically become victims on the stand, even when they are the defendant. A large part of that was infantalizing women and refusing to see them as capable criminal offenders. They are two sides of the same coin. Men are perceived to have hyperagency. Women are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/19 02:53 AM
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Can you just leave me alone already?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/19 01:11 AM
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Who is and is not an asshole is an opinion and not a fact. And I did clarify in my comment that I should have said they are "acting like" assholes and not that they necessarily are assholes entirely. That still isn't good enough for you, fine. But proving that an opinion is actually a fact is not at all possible and I don't see what value such an illogical conversation would have. If I said that sunsets are pretty and you told me to prove it I would have the same reaction. It's my opinion, you a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/19 11:58 PM
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I'm really not following what were are talking about, I'm just confused. I don't know what you are upset about, where I supposedly dismissed anything. I'm just sitting here wondering what's going on. My wording was something along the lines of that people who judge others for breastfeeding are not are assholes. That's what prompted this really bizarre conversation and I'm still not getting how it got here or what "here" even is, or why it just suddenly came up again two weeks later. It's just ve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/19 12:25 PM
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I don't recognize that. I don't see at all how saying "people shouldn't police others breastfeeding" equates to "opposition of men's rights". I see no connection between the two, and don't really care about your opinion on the subject. That is my stance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/19 12:07 PM
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I don't know what's going on here but it's clear we have entirely different perspectives of what is happening and where this conversation is going. The way you have interpreted so much of what I have said is entirely different from how I intended to state it or interpret it myself. For that reason, I am going to end it here, because it's clear nothing I do or say will be right. Have a good day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/19 11:28 AM
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Yes and when I go in feminist spaces there's always someone there telling me I'm an antifeminist MRA tool of the patriarchy. It's all gotten very old and lost its bite. You can tell yourself whatever you want, I support men's rights, that doesn't mean I have to agree with you on the subject of breastfeeding. I'm also not sure you understand the definition of gaslighting or what context it is used in. Feminists do not gaslight, abusers do. Gaslighting is when you try to convince someone to mistru…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/19 10:10 AM
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I am not a feminist because I disagree with you on breastfeeding, please be mature. You are trying to make a point, I am just not sure what it is. Apparently you think that people should be shamed into breast-feeding and people who behave that way are not assholes. Whatever, dude. I don't think anyone should be forced to breastfeed and I think there's many excellent reasons people can't or don't breastfeed and it's really no one's business except for the parents and their doctor. If men could br…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/19 08:59 AM
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In Grimm, Adalind uses a spell to make herself temporarily transform to look exactly like Nick's girlfriend, Juliette. She breaks into his house, puts on Juliette's lingerie, and uses this opportunity to seduce Nick when he gets home. Nick consents, thinking it's his girlfriend and not his rival enemy. The spell she casts requires that he has to have sex with her in order for her to curse him. So, afterwards Nick ends up cursed and Adalind escapes. When Nick and Juliette figure out what Adalind …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/19 12:38 AM
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It's been interesting to learn that men are starved of friendliness. I have always tried to be nice to everyone, regardless of gender. Intimacy and affection I could see but just being pleasant to people? That shouldn't be dependent on gender. I don't think that many guys are oblivious. I'm someone oftentimes seen as flirty. I like harmless/friendly flirting because it's fun and makes people feel good. A lot of my friends could be the same way so it was just normalized to be a little flirty and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/19 04:44 PM
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I also think that people who are racist are assholes. They may have other traits that are redeemable or make them a good person but in this instance they are being being the asshole. It's no one's business but the parents and their doctors about whether breastfeeding is the correct answer for an individual family and since most people don't even know the reason behind why a specific person can't or won't breastfeed, being rude and judgmental about it is not behavior that anyone should be forced …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/19 11:50 PM
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Breast-feeding isn't an option for everyone and it isn't easy for everyone. Some women don't produce enough milk. Some have to take necessary medications that make breast-feeding unsafe. Other babies have trouble latching. And there isn't anything lesser about pumping breast milk and feeding it in a bottle versus breast feeding if it's too difficult for mom and baby. I think anyone who judges women for not breast-feeding are absolute assholes and would think the same if people judged men that wa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/19 10:52 PM
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That is true. Society reinforces the narrative that men around children are dangerous and that a man who isn't the breadwinner is failing at life. This paints such men as undesirable. It's time to start acknowledging and praising men who are great, involved fathers and showcasing other desirable traits other than "makes a lot of money".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/19 01:57 AM
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Having working parents does not lead to child neglect. Also, men still aren't and never were expected to give up their career ambitions to take care of their kids either. So, if equality is the goal and your belief is that being a working parent is neglectful then it should fall on either parent to give up their dreams to stay home with their kid, not just the woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/19 12:02 AM
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Got it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/19 11:50 PM
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I think it's less that they "don't understand" such an extremely simple concept like "equality" and more to do with the reality that girls can get away without approaching first and will still find a partner for the most part. Just look at the demographics of dating websites. Girls are usually inundated with too many messages to reply to, guys struggle to get matches. As for all girls knowing this, I believed until a decent portion of high school that asking a guy out was a terrible idea. Dating…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/19 10:05 PM
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Well those are the statements that I am talking about. You're saying that I'm not reading what I am actually reading and have imagined these things in my head?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/19 11:40 PM
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That's pretty much my stance. I personally don't think that only women or only men had hardships, I think they were just given mainly separate hardships due to distinctive gender roles. And I don't find arguments about which one "had it worse" to be very productive. It's, as you say, nothing more than the oppression olympics. But frequently I see attempts from people on both sides to try and reframe history such that they make it appear like one gender had everything great, while the other suffe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/19 11:16 PM
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I don't blame you. It is refreshing to know that such comments would be moderated and the ones I saw just slipped through.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/19 11:13 PM
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I don't let feminists get away with saying hateful things about men either, so there is no reason why I should have to tolerate it from men's spaces. There's plenty of ways to discuss disadvantage in society without calling all men dogs or all women dumb bitches. When a space on the internet fails to recognize this and instead allows such insults and outright sexism, then they have become a sexist cesspool of the internet as far as I am concerned. Be it a feminist space, or a men's space. Saying…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/19 11:12 PM
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I think this post pretty much sums up what I think of Trollxchromosomes. Men's lib has some good discussions but a lot of them are still steeped in feminism and sometimes a rather cringey "I know as a man I oppress women" kind of self-loathing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/19 12:16 AM
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Unpopular opinion here but I agree with some of what you said. I myself am very critical of feminism, and while I do recognize that it is not the origin of the oppression of men, nor is it solely responsible for the many ways men are disenfranchised in society, it has its role to play. The Duluth model, the concealment of research that shows men are frequently victims of domestic violence and sexual assault, pro-circumcision feminists, etc. There are ways that feminism has used its power to cont…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/19 12:02 AM
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Thank you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/19 03:29 AM
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yes therapy would be better
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/19 11:58 PM
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So what types of actions will spread/increase this type of love to men in society?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/19 12:46 AM
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How else do you expect it to work? People can't just make themselves fall in love with another person on command. There has to be things like mutual chemistry in place. Demanding that someone love you just because you want them to is not how love works.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/19 10:37 PM
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I also don't believe in making monsters out of people. But I also don't believe in claiming everyone who does something harmful is only acting out of trauma. Not everyone is traumatized, it's just reality. You don't have to suffer in order to do bad things. As for having an interest in the subject, it's my field of work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 09:12 PM
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Sure, I can do that. One person's work however is not the end all, be all of the subject.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 08:54 PM
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No, not necessarily. Radicalization is the result of environment and upbringing. It can be traumatic but it's environmental. Sadism can be a fetish, and there is no consensus on how sexual fetishes originate. Sadism is only a problem when the sadistic tendencies are focused on non-consenting partners. And that is overall uncommon but still commonplace enough to pose an issue. Psychopaths are generally assumed to be born and not made. And the feature of psychopathy is an inability to feel empathy…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 08:52 PM
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Yes but then you should understand how people misconstrue what you are actually trying to say. Evil is subjectively applied to certain actions and behaviors, what's considered evil may vary from cultures but arguing that it is a concept does not exist is false. But regardless, the idea that all people who carry out misdeeds are only acting out of hurt or trauma is your personal theory at best, and not what's supported by criminology and research. Some people are traumatized, some crimes are more…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 08:35 PM
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I can easily see why she assumed that he didn't have safe intentions. He was a stranger but he singled her out not once, but twice. For all she knew this was only going to keep happening and possibly escalate. I agree, given the explanation he provided he needs therapy, not jail. But I wouldn't blame anyone for being concerned about a stranger acting this way towards them. I think that not sexually touching people who don't want you to touch them is a pretty sane definition of sexual assault, ho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 08:20 PM
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Your words were that it is a problem that men need to bring something of value to the lives of women. When asked how it's a bad thing, you said it's because women aren't expected to bring value to the lives of men, and are just desired by default. You said this is the case even when women are abusive, or depressive. You then led into a speech about how the solution should be that men are loved unconditionally because you (erroneously) claim that women still love evil women, so why can't we also …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 08:02 PM
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That really doesn't make any sense, I'm sorry. I think the obvious answer is that no one, man or woman, should be unconditionally desired or wanted when that person either brings nothing of value to the table or who is actively abusive, cruel, or toxic. Toxic, abusive women should not be accepted by men, and toxic, abusive men should not be accepted by women. Your stance seems to be that toxic, abusive men should simply be loved unconditionally because from your (questionable) perspective, shitt…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 07:27 PM
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The wage gap myth isn't perpetuated by language like "We suggest", or "this may occur". Statements like 'suggest', and 'may' are not actual research findings, but hypothesis. Reading those quotes, I am not under any impression that these people are claiming to have researched these findings, but rather that they are suggesting possible explanations for previous findings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 06:50 PM
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I don't see how it's prudish. The behavior described is undeniably weird, and it would confuse or freak out a lot of people. Now we know that the reason he just walked up and touched her without speaking was due to social anxiety, but without that context I think it's perfectly normal to not want a random stranger to just keep walking up and touching you without saying anything. I also don't see how touching someone randomly equates to "sexuality". That's not sexuality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 09:01 AM
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It's highly unlikely that he would get the maximum possible sentence for this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 08:47 AM
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Yes, I understand the purpose of trying to show how sometimes we hold double standards. But, at the same time there are men who say some gross, sexist things about men as well and they never get showcased. Not that they need to be mind you but just that only pointing out women who say something bad about men and never showing any men who do the same doesn't seem to paint an accurate picture. I agree. It doesn't really provoke discussion outside of outrage, and it only showcases a problem without…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 08:29 AM
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I think access to abortion being restricted is one of the main problems that are affecting women today, most commonly poor, non-white women because middle and upper class women can still travel to get one. I think the development of effective male birth control will be a big win for both men and women, allowing men to control their reproductive futures and freeing some women from having to take on the sole responsibility of birth control or dealing with bad side effects of hormonal birth control…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 08:26 AM
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That's not even remotely true. In fact women are far less visual than men when it pertains to sexual attraction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 07:56 AM
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There's nothing needy in the entire song. All they are saying is they don't want to be cheated on, lied to or pushed around like in the past. That's like basic human respect they are asking for. Having standards is not the same thing as being needy, it's quite the opposite actually.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 07:54 AM
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We need to provide value to the lives of women. And I do believe that is a problem, make no mistake. ...You think it's a problem that people desire a partner who makes their life better instead of worse? Why would you think that's a bad thing?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 07:49 AM
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Personally I'm not ready to say unless I have seen the movie. I did see one person who said that the movie did indeed "trigger" his past feelings/compulsions of violence because prior to seeking therapy he had been struggling with fantasies of violence and hurting people who he had perceived had wronged him. And he said that this movie brought back some of those feelings. Generally, at least from studies on video games it's been found that media can't create violent tendencies in neurotypical pe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 07:42 AM
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That't not a study, she's giving a testable hypothesis. In almost any field there's usually several different theories on why something is occurring and then researchers have to go and test them. Calling them "accusations" is pretty out of place considering this is normal for any field.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 07:23 AM
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HPV vaccines are routine for young women but not generally for young men. HPV is less likely to affect men but still absolutely can affect them and even increase the likelihood of cancer. In addition, many men may not be affected by it but may still transmit it to their female partners and I'm sure that can work the other way around. In my opinion it makes perfect sense to recommend both men and women get the vaccine but only some doctors do that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 07:21 AM
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She said she drugged and robbed people, not that she raped them. She denies that she ever had sex with them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 07:16 AM
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She admitted that she lured men places with the promise of sex and then drugged and robbed them but I don't know that it was ever said that she actually had sex with them while they were drugged. Still drugging and stealing from people is completely wrong but it's not rape. Cardi B ended the statement by explaining the men she referred to in the old video were men she dated or was involved with, and were "conscious, willing and aware". https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47718477 In addi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 07:10 AM
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I agree. Some of the biggest arguments I've had about men's rights have been against traditional minded men. But a lot of these types of posts only ever seem to show a woman who said something sexist/had a double standard. I doubt it's because there's a lack of men who have said troublesome things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/19 07:05 AM
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I wonder if these did these types of polls among same-sex couples. Would gay men still think their partner needs to be a high earner? Do lesbian women prioritize finances or characteristics more? It'd be interesting to see how engrained this cultural norm is and how some people choose to eschew it. Then I would like to see how they view opposite sex relationships. Would gay men still say that men as a whole should be bread-winners? Would lesbian women still hold onto that standard even when it d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/19 07:18 PM
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I don't think it's a terrible idea, but it should be gender neutral. women and girls will be referred to specialist support services in mental health and substance misuse. This is self-explanatory. Jail and prison does not treat substance addiction. Rehab does. In my mind most people arrested on possession and drug charges should be rehabilitated and not sent to jail. I think this is true of both men and women, because jail does not benefit those with an addiction and we have known this for a lo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/19 06:34 PM
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This is also assumed to partially contribute to the fact that women live longer than men. Women are more likely to seek treatment and catch illnesses earlier. It's a very sad contributing factor to the life expectancy rate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/19 08:46 PM
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I'm not playing the victim, I think you're overreacting. I don't think sexual harassment laws were ever passed to allow men to still be sexually harassed. I'm not lying and creating "hate speech". At best, I would be misinformed about the intention of sexual harassment laws. You are the one applying malicious intent behind everything which is just as intellectually dishonest. You are the one insisting that someone who disagrees with you on one topic is a "feminist" when I'm not and never have be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/19 07:20 PM
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All I said was that not having the option to work is not a privilege, because it restricts freedoms. That isn't hate speech by any logical definition. As for not personalizing anything, you are the one making it personal by personally having a go at me and making all sorts of personal attacks when you know nothing about me. Come off it, dude. You gotta stop. I don't support affirmative action programs and I think alimony should be rewarded on a need basis and not a gender basis. Regardless your …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/19 10:03 AM
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Again, you may go. You don't like me so we don't have to talk. Good day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/19 09:53 AM
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I've tried to address what you have to say but when I've asked you told me you aren't going to provide me any evidence for your claims, and every comment you write is you accusing me of being a feminist and just generally insulting me. So while I tried to have a good faith discussion you aren't actually allowing me to do so and almost everything you actually say is just something that requires me to defend myself, and then you move on to the next accusation for me to have to defend against. This…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/19 09:40 AM
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Another comment where you don't respond to what I said and go on about something else entirely. I said that my comment had nothing to do with intersectional feminism. Here you are going on about intersectional feminism again. If someone here is too wrapped up with feminism, it's you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/19 09:34 AM
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Your opinion has been duly noted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/19 09:21 AM
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Do you just think if you put the word "feminist" in something you win by default? It wasn't intersectional feminism that found that black men were oppressed in society, or that white women were often afforded a level of privilege above most people in society. This is really just history 101, not feminism. Nothing you said is actually a refutation to what I said. I didn't argue that there were those at the top who wrote laws to disenfranchise those at the bottom (I specifically said it did occur)…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/19 08:21 AM
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A feminist ideologue manufacturing oppression of thin air LOL, I'm not a feminist ideologue, I support men's rights. I just think it's pretty ridiculous to pretend that women being kept out of the workforce was a privilege when in fact it was just a restriction of freedom. It's not rocket science to figure that one out. I never denied that men didn't also suffer the same problem by being put into a rigid role outside in the workforce, but the inability to choose one's life path is not a privileg…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/19 08:02 AM
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I have no idea what you are talking about. Your statement didn't make any sense and continues to make less sense the more you expand upon it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/19 02:08 AM
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Bare assertion. So is your claim that women were the ones who made up the majority of jobs in government and produced the most economic spending power? If you have a source that provides this information, I'd be more than happy to look. Women having less flexibility in life isn't the same as them being forced to have children. It was expected through both social and religious norms that women would not only produce children, but also will have sex with their husbands, which could by default prod…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/19 02:06 AM
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True. But then that's also how romance is still sold to women, to have a "protector and provider." I think we need to work on changing how people are taught to seek out ideal partners because in general both sides will tend to be shamed in a household where the woman is the breadwinner and the man is a stay at home father or part time employed. The man gets accused of being a loser, or not "a real man" or even a pedophile if he works with kids. But the woman too often gets accused of "wearing th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/19 12:44 AM
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You referred to entering the workforce as "making meals for strangers as opposed to making them for your family." Unless you were alternatively stating that the only skills women are capable of are cooking, then it sounded like you were implying that women have stopped cooking for their families because they work. Sure you can bring back the good without the bad, but then what aspects of the 1950s were good vs bad are up for debate. By the 1950s, I meant I don't know many women who don't want to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/19 12:39 AM
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Men make up the majority of chefs. But even today, women still do the majority of the household care regardless as to whether they work full time or not, so your claim that women are no longer cooking meals for their families is baseless at best. I really haven't met any woman who wishes to return to the 1950s, time period. I know only few women who desire to stay at home rather than work. Again, you're just making up desires for women with no evidence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/19 12:30 AM
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Most of the protection throughout history was done more so for the good of human kind and reproduction. Children were needed to secure humanity's future. Women were offered protection through default because they were the ones capable of birthing children, and less men were needed to impregnate women. But there certainly were those in power who kept some down in order to boost themselves up. And it wasn't really across all tiers. There were divisions along class and racial lines. White men weren…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/19 12:28 AM
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No one is denying that men were forced into rigid gender roles and forced to work in unsafe conditions. However, men, maybe not all men, but generally men were the ones writing laws, and in positions of power and were the ones earning money.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/19 08:32 PM
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"That is not what I am calling for. What I want to know is why women give up their position of privilege in the 1950s" Because it wasn't as much as a privilege as you reimagine that it was. Not having access to birth control and therefore no control over pregnancy, marital rape being legal, being deemed as too stupid to work successfully outside the home, having no political power and nothing to really look forward to outside of the same monotonous routine day in and day out isn't exactly fun. W…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/19 04:35 AM
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I just want the same. There are women who want to have careers so I don't see why you should or would have to settle for less. Finding a compatible partner is difficult no matter what your standards are but finding a woman with a good career doesn't strike me as impossibly hard to find. Work by definition is producing resources. I don't see how simply producing resources is "by definition" exploitative. If an author loves to write, how are they being exploited by willingly honing their creativit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/19 04:23 AM
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I'm not missing the point, I'm simply arguing that people should have the basic freedom to choose their life path. It's unfair that men are still expected to work, but that doesn't mean women should have all their rights restricted just to make things even. Women were always going to want the freedom of choice, just like men do. Both sides should have that freedom. Taking away things vindictively doesn't aid the process, giving equality to all does. Did you not see what I wrote? "Pregnancy and c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/19 04:06 AM
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Statistically, women look at a man's earning potential over all else Source? And yes, this phenomena exists but that's why I said, the only way to change social norms is to break them, until the social norms evolve. If you are unwilling to do that, then your next best option is not to get married. More men are becoming stay at home fathers than ever before and so the option is to either continue this trend, marry someone who wants earning potential or don't get married at all. If you are opposed…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/19 03:59 AM
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Men were the most socially and economically empowered. Women were not the ones in any position to enforce the social standards or laws that required men to be in the workforce. Men had the most ability to change those norms. Plus, the ways that women demanded entrance into the work force had nothing to do with men. For instance, lack of access to birth control meant women got pregnant when they didn't want to and had to have children. By demanding access to birth control for married and for unma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/19 03:39 AM
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Okay then don't get married. Problem solved. There's no requirement that one has to get married and there are women that will be the sole bread-winner for those men who don't want to take on that role. The only way to normalize it is to live it. That still doesn't account for why women didn't immediately quit working and go back to home life if working is so bad. I've seen far more stay at home moms get screwed because they weren't working than seen working women complain they hate their job and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/19 03:32 AM
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If you have no freedom, that is oppression. Why shouldn't women have been allowed to work and forced to stay in the home even if it wasn't what they wanted? And you think being forced to have kids if you don't want to was a walk in the park? Work life has its positives and detriments, but so does being a stay at home parent. It's not women's fault that they wanted to have equal ability to apply their skills and knowledge outside the home, that should have been obvious, that's a basic human need.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/19 03:19 AM
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Study after study finds correlations between rising porn consumption and declining sexual violence, and these correlations are stark. Correlations are not causation. There are numerous things that have happened in society in the past 25 years that could explain a decrease without porn being the answer. That's also not a theory that is not given much traction: Why has rape and violence against women, particularly younger women, declined so dramatically over the last generation? Little research ex…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/19 05:11 AM
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Of course. No studies are finding a negligible amount of male victims which is why engaging in arguments about whether it's an exactly equal number or not isn't really that importing. It's a lot, and there aren't enough resources for it. People will either get behind the issue or they won't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/19 03:25 AM
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Sounds accurate to me. The CTS scale is the most commonly used to measure incidence of violence. The only refutation to it currently is that it doesn't measure the motivation behind violence and thus some people have tried to argue that it's counting self-defense as domestic violence. But there exists no compelling evidence that this is the case thus far. There is some evidence to the contrary, showing that self-defense makes up a tiny portion of overall violence. As for intimate terrorism, wome…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/19 01:58 AM
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I'm not assuming that they are wrong? I simply said that there is a bias in what work is considered dangerous, dirty and disgusting. I'm not claiming those other jobs are not also dangerous or even that the rank is incorrect. I simply pointed out that there are female dominated jobs that have risks and dangers to them and we tend not to call them such even though that's what they are. You asked me why these jobs are not ranked within that list, so I gave a possible explanation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 11:51 PM
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Well I would have to be able to review the methodology of how these were ranked. From what I can see they looked at mainly fatalities and found the most common causes involved transportation incidents (unsurprising because traffic accidents are a major cause of death in the US) and jobs that left people prone to slips and falls. That doesn't necessarily take into account things like getting sick because you've been exposed to bodily fluids, or how many sex workers (who aren't usually measured be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 11:35 PM
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Thank you. I read an interesting perspective on this once and that caused me to reflect more on whether there may be a bias in how we tend to define dangerous, dirty and disgusting jobs or not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 11:27 PM
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Nice strawman. I don't think that sex is dirty and disgusting. But just like illegal immigrants can be exploited because they are in desperate circumstances, so can some women in sex work. There's a vast difference between an escort who chooses sex work because that's what she wants to do and someone turning to sex work because it's their only choice. And those people are much easier to exploit, or more likely to take risks that endanger their health if it will result in a higher pay or pull in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 11:23 PM
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Criminal justice
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 11:22 PM
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I never claimed it was the full story, I do think it plays a role in deterring women. It's a convenient narrative or excuse I would say to explain away the gender gaps in certain fields and one I think feminists are eager to use regardless as to whether it's the full story. I work in a male dominated field and haven't experienced the sexism that everyone warns about, if anything it seems we are desperate for more women to join. If anything I keep hearing how advantageous it would be to have more…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 05:07 AM
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Women dominate the nursing field, yet it's dangerous. For some reason it doesn't get counted as a "dangerous, dirty and disgusting job" despite the fact that it involves exposure to contagious illness, violent and unruly patients who sometimes will attack nurses, and of course cleaning up a lot of bodily fluids. But women dominate the nursing field. Were they all lobotomized? Yes, there are certain fields women are less likely to go into but sometimes there seems to be a bit of a bias in how "da…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 04:58 AM
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Yeah but there's a difference between sharing a lived experience and just saying "well women are kept out of those jobs because of all the sexism." Sexism may be prevalent or it might not. It may be in your area, or may not be there at all. Just stating that "sexism" is bound to happen if you are a woman who tries to enter one of those jobs is enough to put someone off, whether it's actually a valid concern or not. Plus not feeling safe with a certain co-worker isn't a sexism problem, it's more …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 04:54 AM
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I wasn't talking about only firefighter jobs. As I said, two measures, some are for job requirements, some are for assessing fitness. Anything that is required for the job is mandatory
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/19 02:43 AM
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A) Is more complex than it seems because there can be many reasons women don't want to go into those jobs. Some I think actually can come down to feminism and marketing. Feminists frequently argue that women won't go into these jobs because they are essentially boys clubs filled with sexism and hostility to women. So, you're going to wind up with a lot of women avoiding those jobs by default because it sounds like it'd be miserable, regardless as to whether that's true or not. It's an easy excus…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/19 11:23 PM
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A lot of women have tried to go into combat roles and have been kept out, and raised a fuss about it. I've been open about the fact that I think women should be able to go into combat positions and with one exception I can recall, it's always been men (trad-cons) who have argued that women should not be allowed in. It's hard to even find a video of a female police officer without comments about how women shouldn't be police and it's a danger to society, despite research showing positive effects …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/19 05:07 AM
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Sure, there are more female rapists than is currently recognized but the truth is, most rapists don't believe they have committed rape, male or female. They tend to believe so for entirely different reasons, and you are right, many female rapists don't see what they did as rape because they romanticize it or assume that they did him a favor which is entirely different from the reasons male rapists don't tend to see what they did as wrong. My degree is in criminal justice and I've studied this to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/19 12:56 PM
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There are certainly major double standards, I'm not denying that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/19 11:19 AM
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I would have no problem with it if the genders were reversed. I think ideally, there would be enough trust that both people could have the saved copies. But if one person was too afraid to do so without some assurance like this, and that was something they came to an agreement to, that would be fine. If one person doesn't like it, they simply should not agree with it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/19 11:15 AM
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Hard disagree. He made an explicit agreement that she could save the tapes and that is what caused her to be okay making the sex tape. Whether you switch the genders or not does not change that. A liar is a liar regardless of gender. This equality of saving sex tape issue you are bringing up seems to be an entirely personal thing you have come up with and not one that actually exists in feminist spaces or elsewhere. The link you cited does not say that. It says that they are about equally likely…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/19 11:04 AM
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I'm not referring to that portion. I'm referring to the part where you said that women don't think they can be rapists. If women didn't think they could be rapists they would be raping people a lot more often. Most women don't disregard people telling them no, or force sex on their partners, they also know that consent is necessary in sexual relationships. They may very well not face the same stigma or fear of being called a rapist but that doesn't mean they can't fathom the simple concept of co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/19 10:57 AM
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That's ridiculous. There's plenty of women who are aware that consent is important in their sexual relationships, just as there are plenty of men who know not to share nudes of their girlfriend's without permission. It's bullshit to say that women don't believe they could be rapists. There may be double standards in perception but women are not where those double standards originated from (though they can help perpetuate them), and most women aren't rapists for the very reason that they know rig…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/19 10:34 AM
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I mean, I think he was definitely in the wrong. They had an explicit agreement that he would not keep or maintain the tapes because she was worried about privacy. She only agreed to make these tapes based on explicit precautions and he agreed to those precautions. Now that the tapes have been made, it's now okay for him to go back on his word? Well that's very convenient timing, isn't it? Now let's also address the fact that she was easily able to find them because they were on his gmail and in …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/19 10:26 AM
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Yeah that's why I posted it here, because it's a big deal on the r/menslib subreddit and they are all flattered that they were the sub that came to mind for people. I figured this sub also has the potential to be a positive men's space without the feminism, so I posted it here as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/19 11:32 PM
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Honestly you need to watch the whole thing to understand where she is coming from. Stopping that early in the video doesn't even do it justice. If you don't want to watch that's fine, but dismissing someone of saying anything of value because of one minor disagreement is unreasonable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/19 11:24 PM
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How so?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/19 06:26 AM
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That would be ideal. It's well understood that men's movements don't like feminism, but the feeling is mutual and feminist spaces tend to be able to discuss women's issues and feminism, whereas men's spaces tend to be dominated by complaining about feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/19 07:34 AM
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Yeah there's a definite double standard there. I actually read an interesting write-up on that subject about perception of agency between men and women and how feminism tends to assume men always have agency, and women never have any agency. On the one hand, it can be infantalizing towards women because it treats every small thing like female oppression. At the same time, men are ascribed a lot more responsibility for their actions so when they do something feminists disagree with it's because t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/19 05:41 PM
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I mean I agree and disagree. As a non-feminist woman I've had my fair share of accusations of internalized misogyny and it's not used nicely. But I also think there are times where that label fits. For instance, in Afghanistan it was law that women should not drive cars. And a survey found that a lot of the women who lived there also agreed with and believed that it was bad for women to drive or be in public without a male escort. The same can apply to discussions of female genital mutilation, w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/19 09:54 AM
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I'm not really seeing the purpose of listing off every country in the world where something may be needed. Even in the US I think there's still some areas where there's women's issues that need improvement. It's not really about saying "only men need help here, and only women need help there" to me, it's just more about looking at whether a given issue is a valid problem, and then determining what needs to be done about it without the Oppression Olympics nonsense. Just as it shouldn't detract fr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/19 06:37 AM
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That's not really up to me to decide. There's a couple of ways you can do it. r/FeMRADebates requires that you are moderator approved before you are allowed to comment, so I assume they review your prior post history before approval and they also require a certain number of karma points before your account will be approved, so that right there prevents troll accounts from posting. r/AskFeminists has stricter guidelines about posting a feminist perspective, and if a mod sees something as fishy th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/19 11:35 PM
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Ask feminists seems to be a pretty popular subreddit. Well known as well, good or bad. Men's advocates have had a bad image problem, and oftentimes suffer when other people define what they stand for instead of letting men's advocates speak for themselves. Would it be possible to have something like a "Ask a men's advocate" thread once a week or so and see if you get any genuine questions/comments?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/19 05:11 AM
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I agree! We don't need to attack masculinity but as with a lot of things, an effort to combat injustice on one side of the spectrum winds up with us hating on the other side of the spectrum unfairly. Some men are very masculine, some are not, it's okay.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/19 11:35 PM
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I think some men are more drawn to traditional masculine norms. They're tough as nails, get their hands dirty manly men. But there are appear to be some men who aren't that way either. They like to look nice, work in an office, reap the finer things and talk about their feelings over a wine dinner. I don't see any reason why it's necessary or appropriate to put either side down as "toxic" or as "impotent pussies". Women have a lot more freedom to act how they want. They can be girly girls who ge…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/19 09:00 PM
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That men are commonly victims of domestic violence? Yes. I don't know if it's necessary to get the conversation derailed by arguing with people about whether it's exactly equal or not because no research supports that domestic violence against men is rare. That's reason enough to provide more resources and information, regardless as to whether it's 50/50 or 60/40 or elsewise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/19 11:47 PM
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Because I'm not a single-issue voter? That seems to be a controversial statement these days but I prefer to approach politics by evaluating the merits of each individual issue placed in front of me rather than just voting party-line on everything because they agree with me on one issue. Sometimes I think the democrats have a better proposal to a problem, sometimes I think the republicans do, so I just vote based on which proposed solution seems like it would work best.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/19 11:08 PM
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Signed
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/19 11:06 PM
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Yes, I watched a lot of her videos and activism. She was partially my inspiration.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/19 08:41 PM
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Yes, just to clarify I don't tell circumcised men that there is anything wrong with them. I generally support men's right to choose circumcision, I just ask that it be done when they can consent to the medical procedure and not when they are infants. I usually just frame my response by stating that while I'm glad they are happy with their experience, some men are really unhappy about being circumcised without a choice (and cite examples) and just want to ask that circumcision be a choice and not…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/19 11:10 PM
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This was the first one to find gender symmetry in domestic violence. Since then, studies using the CTS scale have consistently found the same results. The Conflict Tactics Scale measures the incidence of violence in a given relationship, and men and women report in about equal measure. Studies that conflict oftentimes disagree with the use of the CTS scale because they argue that it measures how often violence happens but not why the violence occurred. They have argued that the CTS scale is like…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/19 10:59 PM
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Feminism often appears to operate from a victim mentality for women to the extent that it genuinely shocks me what feminists think is supposedly oppressing women. The air conditioning at work. The way men sit down. It's infantalizing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/19 06:20 AM
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Women are not victims of domestic violence more frequently than men. They are more likely to be seriously injured or killed than male domestic violence victims, but frequency of abuse is the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/19 06:12 AM
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Why can't you just live your life the way you want without trying to control what everyone else is allowed to do? You can marry a virgin if you want to, just don't go around ordering people to do what you command. It's really not hard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/19 05:53 AM
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I don't know what the context of this tweet was, but on another site I am on there is a large majority of people from India. And in India, it's extremely common for boys (sons) to be allowed to go out at night and do whatever they want, whereas the daughters or women are forbidden to go out at night because "it's dangerous". And of course, this was the justification that the infamous New Dehli rapist used in his defense, that no decent woman would be out at night (she went to a movie with a frie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/19 12:16 AM
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That's terrible. The point of international women's day should not be and never has been to make men's (let alone children's!) lives miserable. Imagine if people proposed these types of things for International Men's Day.
/r/MensRights18/05/19 04:32 AM
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Because it's a bad argument when utilized towards either gender. If someone says something stupid to you, your solution is to wish to say stupid things too? I think a better approach is to try to make everyone else wiser.
/r/MensRights18/05/19 04:14 AM
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Because it's a bad argument when utilized towards either gender. If someone says something stupid to you, your solution is to wish to say stupid things too? I think a better approach is to try to make everyone else wiser.
/r/MensRights18/05/19 04:14 AM
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Agreed, it will encourage more personal responsibility
/r/MensRights05/01/19 12:09 AM
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But that's how the argument should be framed instead of claiming that feminists just believe in some invisible hand. If you strawman people's arguments they won't respond. Address their actual argument and disprove it instead of just making up something and then attacking it instead.
/r/MensRights04/01/19 11:22 PM
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Well it sounds like the law in this case recognizes emotional abuse as a form of domestic violence. In that case it's not a "defense" from the crime but it is a mitigating circumstance, meaning she might get reduced sentence because it may drop the level of mens rea. It's probably similar to battered women's syndrome which is a legal defense. Essentially it recognizes that victims of extensive abuse genuinely believe that there's no way to stop the abuse other than to kill the abuser. This sound…
/r/MensRights04/01/19 12:57 AM
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I've always been an advocate of paper abortions for men (and have gotten a lot of flak for it). The problem is, the state often relies on child support payments to keep women with children out of poverty. If paper abortions became a thing, then those women would have to turn to state sponsored welfare programs, which is why the government is not going to be in favor of this type of change. It's an uphill battle. A lot of people have asked me what I think should be done about this issue and I've …
/r/MensRights04/01/19 12:48 AM
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That is emotionally abusive, she should never get away with it. And like someone else brought up, when Onision told his ex-gf to get a tattoo that said she was a liar for breaking one of the many rules in their "relationship contract" people rightfully called it out as an abusive and controlling thing to do. Someone get this man help...it's going to be hard to cover up that nonsense.
/r/MensRights04/01/19 12:40 AM
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Yes, I think a lot of people observe this as well. The most promising studies on the "nature" side of the debate were performed on monkeys and pointed to a hormonal basis behind gendered toy preferences.
/r/MensRights30/12/18 12:37 PM
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specifically that its invisible hand excludes women from the hard sciences. That's not what feminist theory says. Feminist theory contends that men and women are socialized differently when they are raised from children into adulthood and these subtle differences lead to the development of separate skill sets and interests. In the end, it's difficult to dissect when something is a free choice and when something may have been subtly but culturally influenced. On the extreme end, you'll find many …
/r/MensRights30/12/18 11:01 AM
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There's tons of men and women in the poly community. There is usually an overlap between sex-positive feminism and polyamory but it's not something that is only reserved for women. The vast majority of poly couples allow multiple relationships for both the man and the woman, not to mention there are plenty of same-sex poly couples as well. As long as both parties involved are honest about it and are both happy with the arrangement, I see no reason to worry about it.
/r/MensRights23/12/18 10:44 PM
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