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Field ReportPristineonk/r/seduction11/05/26 12:44 PM
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Outer Game Pristineonk/r/seduction15/05/26 12:52 PM
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ConversationPristineonk/r/seduction17/05/26 11:55 AM
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Field ReportPristineonk/r/seduction11/05/26 07:20 AM
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Julien and Owen probably the best I think Max actually got some really good results and had a better appraoch to success rate than Owen, but Max looked like a young Tom Cruise so he had it a lot easier lol. He was on the short side, but very good looking which is super important. If you've seen 'the natural', he pulls some pretty hot girls, but they ALL essentially pull him. Many open him! Julien was tall, decent looking, and his game was really good, even though he broke all of Todds rules. A h…
/r/seduction21/07/26 05:52 PM
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probably a v handsome dude
/r/seduction21/07/26 01:28 PM
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indicator of interest. Girl looking at you like she clearly has the hots fo you and wants you to appraoch her
/r/seduction20/07/26 02:06 PM
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For sure. Nothing wrong with cold approach. I've had some amazing results with it too
/r/seduction20/07/26 02:06 PM
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👍
/r/seduction20/07/26 01:23 PM
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why don't you have just a normal talk with them? sounds like that would have worked better yep. I always say to drop the 'game' stuff. It only 'works' on girls who want you. And on other girls it does more harm than good
/r/seduction20/07/26 12:09 PM
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that's something that the coaches themselves can't do though (as infields shows) - but I understand everyone has a different definition. Jeffy and most modern PUA's agree with me for example. Mystery maybe sells a different idea The OP even says he fails with girls who are giving im big IOI's. Why? lack of game.
/r/seduction20/07/26 11:36 AM
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Disagree. It's game. Game is leading an attracted girl to sex. That's why even good looking guys get rejected sometimes. They mess up. Because they don't have game. Bore her to death for example or say crazy stuff. Unable to look her in the eye etc, But if there's not attraction there, game doesn't help as the streaming infield shows
/r/seduction20/07/26 10:52 AM
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Wait for IOI's. Otherwise your odds are EXTREMELY low on any given approach. Just the way it is. There were some streaming/uncut vids of various coaches back in the day, and even for them with all the 'skills' they have, it was quite brutal and nothing like the cherry picked infields they show. People hate on online dating, but it's way more efficient tbh. There are just as hot girls online as on the street. You get the same girls in both instance.
/r/seduction20/07/26 10:35 AM
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it's never really the 'technique' or 'method' That's exactly why, as you say yourself, everyone completely disagrees. on literally every nuance. Even all of the 'experts'. They all 'field test' stuff, but what (apparently) works for one guy (like walking up too a girl in the bar and saying 'you're hot' and then kissing the girl when she gives you the 'fvck me' eyes instantly) will fail miserably for another guy I advise to embrace that this is a game of chance. Unless you are acting in a COMPLET…
/r/seduction20/07/26 09:53 AM
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based on your replies, i'm guessing a hell of a lot more than you lol. There's nothing I don't know about game. I an expert. Lots of results. But, just like every 'coach', it's with girls who are attracted to me and receptive to the approach. Watch some infield from the best. CAREFULLY. But agree to disagree. Good luck
/r/seduction20/07/26 09:37 AM
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disagree. Watch infield from professional coaches and you'll see what I mean if you are observant
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:31 AM
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everyones already done all of that stuff here. Read all the books etc.We get daily posts about peple struggling with the mysterymethod or Todd V etc. Game is for the girls who are attracted to you. So you need to work on getting attractive (hot) first. THEN the 'pushpull' lines etc will work
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:11 AM
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gym, roids, tan, potentially surgeries
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:33 AM
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was there like a little fairground or something in the background ?
/r/seduction19/07/26 11:22 PM
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Would you say it's an absolutely useless course that doesn't teach you the basics? If you say yes, you'd be lying. Actually, it's probably one of my favourite courses. I quite liked Max. I liked his infield as it wasn't so 'gamey'. It was the opposite of someone like Mysteries infield. Yet they both apparently do well which kind of makes you think there really are no rules. Max also admitted (like Julien does whose courses I also quite liked) that you can't 'seduce' a girl in the way the coaches…
/r/seduction18/07/26 10:28 AM
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What I didn't like about Max's product (the natural) was that his pulls were all on extreme 'green' girls. Girls who were ridiculously open to him, or girls who literally approached him (He was also very misleading in his marketing. So much so that people think one of the girls he pulled was one of the group of girls who were flat out ignoring him as he done his 'chain association' stuff due to the way he edited the promo) - But if you actually watch it from the product, he approaches them girls…
/r/seduction18/07/26 07:59 AM
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you don't need them. Lots of boring dudes crush it for instance. If you are her type, you are her type. But to answer your question, you can make her laugh, you can tease her, shock her etc etc But you can't 'create' attraction in someone.
/r/seduction16/07/26 06:56 AM
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lots of scammy 'coaches' on this sub nowadays. All just pretending to be able to do what the well known coaches with infield can't do lol. It's just a racket. Anyone can be a 'dating coach'. End of the day, all of the info that they can teach you is already out there. And you should have already read it all (since everything is so easy to find for free). Just go out and test it yourself. You will realise it 'works' assuming you approach the 'right girl'.
/r/seduction15/07/26 01:13 PM
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it's just a form of 'preference'. Of someone having a 'type'. Some girls would never date a guy who isn't tall no matter how much 'game' they had for example. Or who isn't 'handsome', according to their personal tastes even if you applied cold reads and stuff in books or whatever It's just a preference and all you can do is find a new girl A girl who only wants a celeb or whatever is more uncommon I tihnk, although I have encountered something similar before in parts of London where unless you a…
/r/seduction14/07/26 01:30 PM
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be a bad boy
/r/seduction14/07/26 01:27 PM
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everyone on 'sosuave' prertty much says 'hit the gym' everytime people ask 'how do I get more girls'. And 'goodlookingloser' who had a tonne of infield and a forum with guys proving they were actually getting laid lots, also just embraced the idea that you can't make a girl want you and to just improve yourself (gym, fashion, money),
/r/seduction12/07/26 08:06 AM
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If the girl you wanted was interested, she would very subtly tell her friends NOT to block you. So it's just about approaching the girls who want you, which you won't really know until you say hi. So do'nt worry about it. Just move on to the next
/r/seduction10/07/26 08:29 PM
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After all of this ive realized flirting is so effortlessly easy😋 of course! flirting/game isn't the hard part. It's finding the girls who are attracted. Flrting (game) is essentially the test to see if they are interetsed or not good job
/r/seduction10/07/26 03:02 PM
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This. Going out for a night with one of these 'coaches' and you will realise fast that they are no better than anyone else. They're not special. They get rejected just as much as the next guy. We used to have meetups in London where lots of community guys would meet as well as coaches. It firmly cemented in my brain that we are all just playing the numbers. That's it
/r/seduction09/07/26 11:17 PM
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night game was always more sparse. The main guys were called 'RSD' (Real social dynamics). They had lots of 'programs'. "Honest Signals" again, too
/r/seduction09/07/26 07:31 PM
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of course. If you approach a girl and you are her type and she is attracted to you, it's very possible to hookup then and there
/r/seduction09/07/26 06:50 PM
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if you think saying the words 'you look like an accountant' when a girl is in front of you, or saying 'you look like trouble. We wouldn't get along' is comparable with doing a backflip, I don't know what to tell you lol. If you can talk you can run game very easily. There's only a few techniques and they are all very easy. Some coaches literally give you the sentences for each 'attraction technique'. Just go out and test it. If you can't speak a sentence when a girl is in front of you, that's di…
/r/seduction09/07/26 05:31 PM
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just get her attention, and get in front of her and speak loud enough. She'll look at you. Now you need to make her attracted (main methods being 'pushpull' (/u/Nervous-Arrogance) as well as negs and teasing)
/r/seduction09/07/26 12:56 PM
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there's too many to mention. Look for books (and 'programs' where you can watch them approach) from tom torerro, nick krauser, honest signals, Todd Valentine, coach Kyle. There's tonnes of these guys all selling the same stuff (thought about writing one myself at one point), but you really do'nt need to even read the books etc. Definitely do'nt pay for it. Find it all for free. The actual 'practical' stuff can be condensed down to just a few paragraphs in terms of what to actually say once you g…
/r/seduction09/07/26 12:51 PM
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pretty much every coach uses the same stuff so just do that. Open is usually - "hey, I was just over there on my way to meet a friend and I saw you and thought you looked nice and wanted to say hello" Then go into a 'cold read' if you want to carry on traditional 'game'. "You look like you're an accountant"/"are you Spanish?"/''you work in fashion?' etc Or, some PUA's go into trying to just sound 'normal' now. So, 'what's your name?', 'are you from around here' etc The 'game' side of things and …
/r/seduction09/07/26 12:32 PM
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don't forget this is a seduction sub. It involves techniques that have names (such as pushpull) that are used to force attraction in a girl where just 'having a conversation' isn't enough. That's the idea, anyway. Whether it works or not, i'll leave up to you to decide lol. But you can't hate on ppl using seduction terms in a field report on a seduction sub
/r/seduction07/07/26 09:29 PM
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just make them up if you don't have any. Talk about your ex who was a paid model for some big brands, talk about how you are always the 'best man' at friends weddings and organised and paid for some crazy bucks nights etc
/r/seduction07/07/26 08:21 PM
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This sub should sticky certain thread. Someone made a 'recap' of basically every 'method' out there and condensed each method down to just a few paragraphs to get rid of all the waffle they used to pad out the books. I could probably find the posts but I do'nt think you can link posts on this sub without them being instantly deleted But basically, open. Indirect. Opinion opener Use a false time constraint. Would look like 'Hi, I've only got 2 mins, but I wanted your opinion on something. Who lie…
/r/seduction07/07/26 06:33 PM
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You hear horror stories, but for me, the only side effect was i'd get dry lips. Other than that it was plain sailing
/r/seduction06/07/26 07:21 PM
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accutane was the big one and done most of the heavy lifting for my particular case
/r/seduction06/07/26 07:01 PM
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If you're hoping for girls to give you overt signs of attraction or for them to make the first move or make things easy for you, then you'll be waiting until you die. Unless you are good looking haha. My best friend gets approached literally 5-6 times per night by girls hitting on him and being quite forward. But yeah, in general its not typical. It's happened to me once in over 20 years of going out for example lol But yes, I approach and escalate on girls who don't give me any signals, althoug…
/r/seduction06/07/26 06:37 PM
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pushpull? ("you and me wouldn't get along" and 'you look like trouble' is the "game" part of Todd V's conversations with girls, really. The rest is just usual small talk convo
/r/seduction06/07/26 04:32 PM
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weight loss and fixing bad skin
/r/seduction06/07/26 04:29 PM
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well, he's apparently the best dating coach in the world, although he has a youtube channel so I guess you could say he's a youtuber lol
/r/seduction06/07/26 08:38 AM
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they were verbal examples of game principles. The stuff Todd V says
/r/seduction06/07/26 07:48 AM
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check out Todd V on youtube. That's literally all his says in every infield. That's the 'game' part in his convo. The rest is just regular small talk
/r/seduction05/07/26 03:38 PM
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things like 'You and me wouldn't get along', 'you look like trouble', etc. So teasing, disqualifying her etc
/r/seduction05/07/26 02:49 PM
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were the girls also drug users? did you ever see them in action? like, what sort of lines did they say on a cold approach?
/r/seduction05/07/26 02:11 PM
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running out of things to say is jusy a byproduct of talking too a girl who isn't into you. It can't be avoided. She is making it her job to make you run out of things to say by giving you nothing in her replies and never asking you anything. Move on. Find a girl who wants you. That's the trick
/r/seduction05/07/26 10:55 AM
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low interest just means she's not attracted to you so of course it doesn't make sense to waste time on her
/r/seduction05/07/26 09:21 AM
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pushpull lines (google them)
/r/seduction02/07/26 09:23 PM
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women are extremely visual. Height is the most accurate answer though
/r/seduction02/07/26 09:04 PM
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when a girl likes you, you kind of need base level social skills/flirting skills, but that's what the books should be able to give you. Most people probably don't need to read a book to bang a girl who thinks he's hot. But some guys do. THEY are the guys who need this community. The other guys don't. So many guys who've never read a book already do so so much better with girls than your favourite pua coach. Some of my friends would obliterate them
/r/seduction02/07/26 06:26 PM
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But I do'nt understand how anyone doesn't already know exactly what to do? There's a million 'game' books out there and they all say more or less the same thing. Even though some of them are thick books, the actual, practical info could easily fit onto half of a piece of A4 paper (I uploaded some books and asked chatGPT to give me the PRACTICAL info in richard Laruinas THREE books for example, and all 3 books combined, with the waffle taken out by AI, could be reduced down too a few paragraphs l…
/r/seduction02/07/26 05:56 PM
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obviously. Game is about getting attracted girls into bed without messing up. Anyone who isn't a scammy coach (like the scammer coach above "cruse") but has a tonne of experience knows this and will tell you the same
/r/seduction02/07/26 02:05 PM
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Again. I'd say i'm more experienced and know a tonne about this stuff. Agree to disagree. Always pointless going back and forth
/r/seduction02/07/26 01:55 PM
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agree to disagree
/r/seduction02/07/26 01:28 PM
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You've been taken by the rhetoric of Alan Roger Currie who barely did direct himself, just sold it. Well i actually do INdirect, but I guess the point is that it's irrelevant. Both work and neither work. It's all Dependent on if she's attracted to you or not
/r/seduction02/07/26 01:03 PM
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which is immediate and looks based. It isn't the same for women From seeing my very good looking friend in the field and how women react to him, i'd have to strongly disagree lol I think the counter argument is just made up by "coaches" trying to push a narrative to scam money from their customers tbh
/r/seduction02/07/26 12:23 PM
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BS. Never from a cold approach. Looks at footage of coaches themselves. Game isn't magic lol.
/r/seduction01/07/26 06:34 PM
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google 'pushpull' and 'cold reads'. That's lkie 99% of the stuff in the books. It's very easy. This stuff went mainstream over a decade ago. I get vids about pushpull on tiktok! Don't get your hopes up though. In reality, her attraction isn't in your control. There's not jedi level of 'skill' where you can seduce whoever you want. It's a numbers game, as they say. You need to find the girls who want you
/r/seduction01/07/26 05:11 PM
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maybe it's the opposite and you're so damn dominant and assertive and masculine that they are worried about upsetting you with their rejection, so they're like 'but we can be friends!!!!' lol but at the end of the day, like the other poster said, who really cares. A rejection is a rejection. A 'soft' rejection is fine. Either way, attraction wasn't their on her part. Nothing you can do about that. Just on to the next girl to flirt with and see if she is into it (flirts back)
/r/seduction30/06/26 09:21 PM
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pushpull lines, I guess. If they don't work to get her attracted, try with a different model?
/r/seduction30/06/26 08:43 PM
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this guy gets it. Compared to Amsterdam, UK is hard mode. UK is also way harder than US - it's just to do with the social culture of talking to strangers. US is very different to most countries in that respect. Although as he says, in the UK, the more North you go, the more you can expect more 'American' type reactions. They're way more friendly/social with strangers in Newcastle for example, compared to Brighton If you look at infield form Pickup coaches, nearly all of their good reactions and …
/r/seduction30/06/26 02:36 PM
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Are you in the Europe? Specially maybe France or England or Germany maybe? Every guy I know gets a number of very harsh rejections per night when tehy approach girls. Way ruder than what I imagine our US friends are used too lol
/r/seduction29/06/26 05:58 PM
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The 'pua' answer would be to have better 'game' than him, so use pushpull and cold reads etc on the girls etc and try to beat his good looks with 'game'/teasing etc. But in reality, that's just nonsense coaches try to sell you. We've all tried that stuff at this point. All the info is so readily available to test nowadays. So the real answer is that there's just nothing you can do, really. Depending on how much it depresses you, it might be wise to still see him, but just not when you are going …
/r/seduction27/06/26 05:37 PM
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this lol
/r/seduction27/06/26 03:34 PM
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The other one is shorter than me, Asian and chubby as hell. I’m not saying this to shit on them or flex but they are objectively ugly as fuck. The short dude showed me this white girl he smashed, I couldn’t believe my eyes. Either he is lying to you, or you have sorely missjudged his looks. I'm going with the former lol
/r/seduction27/06/26 03:33 PM
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This is probably the answer. Either the short chubby Asian dude was showing a lying and showing a pic of a hot random girl, OR he's much better looking (to girls) than he realises. There's just no getting away from it.
/r/seduction27/06/26 03:31 PM
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That cold approach is literally essentially a pure numbers game. Cold approach is less of a skill game and more like fishing in a lake where most of the fish aren’t biting that day. You can have perfect technique, but if there’s no appetite for your bait, it’s still just repetition until you get a bite. You approach a girl who likes how you look, the amount of 'game' you need is essentially being relatively 'normal'. You approach a girl who isn't at all attracted to you, an no special words (gam…
/r/seduction18/06/26 10:38 PM
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Probably not a bad analogy. Also holds up in terms of how you can only seduce the girls who want to be seduced by you. That's why we see even the coaches get rejected so much. Like, you can have great game and use the correct pushpull lines and be confident etc, but if you're not her type, it's never gonna work Same as how you can be great at job interviews, but if you have no education, you're just not gonna get the job to be a brain surgeon lol desire always comes first and is necessary (her t…
/r/seduction17/06/26 05:44 PM
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The 'skill' element is MASSIVELY overrated tbh. All of the info is available so easily nowadays and you can test it out for yourself (pushpull, disqualify, tease blabalabla. Doesn't work if you're not her type) Everyone is just banging girls who think they are hot upon the approach and then make it easy for them. Even the 'pros'. And they get rejected by the girls who don't think he's hot. So yes, it's mostly nonsense tbh. Just a way for 'coaches' to make some easy money
/r/seduction15/06/26 10:15 PM
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pushpull?
/r/seduction15/06/26 10:07 PM
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yeah, it's all been very overcomplicated. Really, everything works on the girls who are attracted to you (within reason) and no magic techniques (which come out at sentences) will of course make her attracted lol If a you approach a girl and she is very cold and very clearly not interested, saying 'better' words would 100% not have resulted in sex with that girl lol
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:21 PM
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it's the opposite But sure, i'll 'trust you' lol
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:54 AM
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slow speech to get the much older women. Fast speech for the young ones. Kids speak fast nowadays and slow speech make you sound like an old man
/r/seduction14/06/26 09:34 PM
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Fair, but i've never personally found cold reads, assumptions etc to be any more effective to be quite honest. I find most things work if she is into you, and nothing works when she's not (e.g the cold reads are met with the same disinterested, eager to get away body language as 'interview mode' lol)
/r/seduction14/06/26 05:28 PM
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He just wasn't her type. If he was, she would have asked him stuff back etc and shown interest. making cold reads or whatever are no more effective. There's many vids of people failing bad using cold reads etc where she just doesn't care lol. It's all about finding the girls who want you. When you do, everything 'works'
/r/seduction14/06/26 02:35 PM
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interview mode is fine. JulienRSD used to advoate it and had success with it I think maybe them girls just weren't interested. If they were, they'd have been asking you things back and trying to help the convo along. You're doing good and opening. When you open the girls who want you, I think it'll be quite smooth sailing. I've seen friends pull girls in bars where my friends had such bad social skills and basically ran out of things to say after 'hi', but the girls took up all of the conversati…
/r/seduction14/06/26 09:25 AM
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that's not real sexual tension lol. That's just a chat show host flirting with guests on his own show, who of course have to play along to not look miserable
/r/seduction14/06/26 08:14 AM
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All you can really do is find out and ask her out, I guess. There's no special technique that can make a girl want you. If there was we'd all be doing it and dating as we know it would be very different lol. You can try the game stuff (use pushpull lines on her etc) but don't hold your breath. I've not found anything PUA techqniues to ever help with girls who weren't already into me, personally Good luck!
/r/seduction14/06/26 08:13 AM
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There's that clip of Henry Cavil and Freya Allan looking and smiling at each other. I'm guessing every hot girl Henry Cavil met felt that sexual tension lol. Helps to look like Henry Cavil! :)
/r/seduction13/06/26 07:24 PM
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A lot of white guys realise their 'game' suddenly works when they travel to South East Asia. Even a number of "pickup coaches" moved there lol
/r/seduction11/06/26 07:29 AM
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it's always the good looking guys with the lay reports and fun stories haha. I've noticed that on this sub for years and I also notice the exact same thing in infeild footage. The PUA's who actulaly regularly bang hot young girls and do'nt have to play SERIOUS numbers game, are the young, good looking coaches haha
/r/seduction08/06/26 09:18 AM
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How can you tell this from infield? the same night lays and/or solid numbers are always from girls who were very receptive to the approach and helped carry the convo, open to flirting etc (due to baseline attraction). The girls who are more cold/hostile always end up in the rejection album, despite their best efforts to MAKE her attracted with pushpull etc How can you tell what their number > date conversion rate is from infield? You should try to find old, 'streaming' infeilds that some PUA's r…
/r/seduction08/06/26 09:12 AM
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it's always a numbers game. Learn to recognize the key stages of attraction Learning to recognise attraction is only relevant if she is attracted and what the next step should be. The next step is obviously to somehow get her attracted, which isn't in your control. I'm sure everyone has read all the books at this point and tried the various 'attraction material' (pushpull etc). As we see in infield from pros, you can't make her attracted. The pros get rejected just as much as you or me The 'numb…
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:25 AM
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Dude had a hog in his pants and he's like 7ft lol
/r/seduction01/06/26 07:17 PM
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molly is super neurotoxic. More like a twice per year drug I think lol. Not weekly
/r/seduction01/06/26 07:16 PM
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probably appraoched very well, but just wasn't her type.
/r/seduction01/06/26 07:14 PM
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I pray for the day girls call me handsome! lol
/r/seduction01/06/26 01:13 PM
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watch a few infields. It's basically just normal talk. Say 'hi', and that you saw her and thought she looked nice. Then chat more. But instead of questions they say to use 'assumptions'. SO instead of 'what do you do', you say 'you look like a teacher?' or something. And then it's just saying things like 'you look like trouble', 'me and you would't get along. We'd get in too much trouble' etc. If she thinks you're cute, she'll caht back adn flirt back and then you hook up. If you're not her type…
/r/seduction30/05/26 12:40 PM
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i'd suggest finding someone with lots of infield, and who isn't good looking. There's a real ceiling to 'game', but there's no point in 'learning' from some good looking 'coach'. He lives in a different world to you and is playing on extreme easy mode.
/r/seduction25/05/26 12:16 PM
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Gym. Nobody 'seduces' a girl if she's not attracted to him on a primal level. Look at the huge percentage of the time these 'coaches' get rejected in their own infields etc. The game part is easy, tbh. And all the info is out there to read today and test for free. It's not some secret and it's not hard.
/r/seduction25/05/26 12:13 PM
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i've very blackpilled because i've seen first hand through meeting people from the PUA community, the difference between how cold approach works for good looking guys vs ugly guys (in fact, my good looking friends don't even approach. They don't need too. They get appraoched lol) However, even I would say to still do it. Why? Because in life 'anything can happen'. I've never in my life seen an ugly guy get loads of play with hot girls from cold approach, although I have seen some who at least fr…
/r/seduction24/05/26 01:15 PM
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numbers game. Its about attraction. That isn't a 'skill' lol
/r/seduction22/05/26 09:26 AM
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need to know when to ask for a social media or ask them out when they are clearly showing interest, asking you things, helping keep the convo going, and ideally flirting a little. Don't know where you live, but in Europe, when you approach a girl who doesn't think you are hot and she isn't interested, there will be no doubt in your mind as she will make it VERY clear before you've even finished your opening line haha - and 'going for the number' would never cross ones mind lol But if she is rece…
/r/seduction22/05/26 08:00 AM
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i think both sexes are basically identical in how they think and act, really. I would bang a super hot girl if she was broke and even not a very nice person. I wouldn't want a relationship with her of course. But I WOULD want to have sex with her. It's the same for women. They see a handsome dude but he works minimum wage or not at all. They will still want to have have sex with him. But as a boyfriend, he'll likely struggle to hold on to her, if at all (although there are exceptions. I knew a g…
/r/seduction22/05/26 07:55 AM
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i think it was a called 'wolf' or something. It was very expensive. Think it might have actually been from one of them sites as the names ring a bell. aromafero? I ditched it but never dared tell my friends I bought some expecting it to work. They'd never let me live it down lol I ended up getting some good results though, but went a different route - what we all know actually works lol. Not game. I already know game very very well. The Issue was attraction. I had quite a glow up with my looks (…
/r/seduction22/05/26 07:33 AM
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I tried pheremone aftershave haha. No joy unfortunately! Not that I actually expected it to work, but it was going through a dry patch and was desperate lol
/r/seduction21/05/26 10:58 PM
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didn't notice your post before I made mine, but now realised it looks a bit like I copied you lol
/r/seduction21/05/26 10:41 PM
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i think money counts in terms of relationships (hanging onto a girl) But in terms of casual flings and one night stands etc, I think it's completely irrelevant. A number of my most successful friends (when it came to getting laid) were lifelong 'wasters' who were usually unemployed or at best had a low paid gig for a few months, but they were very good looking dudes and they hooked up with new girls all the freaking time. I don't think the girls saw them as 'boyfriend material' but they wanted t…
/r/seduction21/05/26 10:38 PM
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I guess they are good looking (so they have attraction) and also have game (to convert the attraction into a sex/relationship)
/r/seduction21/05/26 10:12 PM
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only a tiny percentage of giga chads get complimented regularly. That's why for most men, that 'you're hot' comment from 2015 still gives you a rush when one thinks abut it lol
/r/seduction21/05/26 04:13 PM
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it was removed by a mod
/r/seduction21/05/26 12:54 PM
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everyone says that game is simply flirting. And when you think about it (and all the 'technique' the books teach on how to 'game') they are right. i,e pushpull, breka rapport, disqualify, tease, playful cold reads etc etc. It's all just 'flirting' But then I wonder, does flirting (game) actually make a girl want you? I think it would take quite a leap to say 'yes'. Girls love being flirted with by a guy they think is attractive, but a guy they're not into??....flirting with them?....I'm not so s…
/r/seduction21/05/26 12:17 PM
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it's worked for me a fair bit. There's no rules in game If you open direct and she's not at all interetsed, I guarantee that going indirect would simply mean a 'slower' rejection lol
/r/seduction20/05/26 10:16 PM
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it's a numbers game really. She just wasn't interested. There's nothing you could have said that would have meant you got a date or lay or whatever, so do'nt worry about it
/r/seduction20/05/26 05:52 PM
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pretty much, tbh! I think people spend all their time trying to work out what to say to make her want you (so 'you look like trouble', 'we wouldn't get along', 'pushpull' etc etc). She doesn't really care about that stuff. I think as you say, seduction is really about being bold enough too approch random pretty girls and state your attraction. She's either down or she's not. You don't control it. Your job is to find out
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:20 AM
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lets just agree that game is played on the yes girls, as mark Manson said years ago. He really was correct. I've seen so much infield from coaches which confirms this. If you approach and you're not her type (and it's clear from her instant reaction that it's the case) he never ever gets the girl despite all of his advanced methods
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:10 AM
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did you never see the tinder experiments of teh really good looking guys using mirror selfies and who claimed to be a s3xual criminal? haha. They were drowning in matches from very young very pretty girls
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:05 AM
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don't shoot me down, but getting better looking worked much better for me than learning game which I learnt a long time ago. I guess your mileage may vary
/r/seduction19/05/26 06:49 PM
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As we say in the PUA world, women aren't "visual" at all.
/r/seduction19/05/26 03:48 PM
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JAL is teh worst lol.
/r/seduction18/05/26 11:30 AM
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another poster below also says that he is shy and does very well with his good looks and girls don't care about his lack of confidence. Who knows what's true at this point lol
/r/seduction17/05/26 09:13 PM
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""how have you been'' opener, maybe. From a UK pickup artist
/r/seduction17/05/26 05:22 PM
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they value other factors higher than confidence such as?
/r/seduction17/05/26 12:21 PM
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i see lots of infield footage videos where the girl say 'i admire your confidence! You are incredibly confident' etc, BUT she still rejects him and says he's not her type etc. So in reality, i think the opposite. Looks will always come first by a mile.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/26 10:52 AM
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i had another rough night too and i've implement everything i've read in terms of attraction building. Doesn't work if i'm honest. If you're not her type, you're not her type. There's nothing you could say or do to change that, so do'nt worry about it. Your game could be brilliant for all we know. But you never know until you open the girls who are interested
/r/seduction17/05/26 09:32 AM
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. But this guy, looked just like Rob, and no matter where we went, there were always women telling him, here is my number, call me to fvck Don't tell this sub that! haha. Women aren't supposed to be visual!
/r/seduction16/05/26 09:56 PM
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How do you create genuine attraction…. Well you do it by being yourself and finding out if there’s chemistry, don’t use techniques from books i'm still testing stuff for now to see if it actually works or not. No harm in finding out.
/r/seduction16/05/26 08:55 AM
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I think the issue was that the baseline attraction wasn't there on some sets. Todd actually has infields where he seemingly doesn't get attraction. His system is quite easy and hard to get wrong because he actually gives you verbatim lines for each attraction tool (so pushpull lines, disqualifying lines etc) so i'm confident my skills are very good. Will be out again tonight hopefully to see what I can do. I'll possibly try a new instructors course if I decide todds attraction material and techn…
/r/seduction16/05/26 08:27 AM
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Based on the replies of my last field report, there's apparently nothing I could have said to get attraction in the girls who weren't attracted to me. I'm assuming the baseline primal attraction just wasn't there with them particular girls I guess 'more approaches' could be considered one improvement for next time. People said in my last report that one isn't gonna get laid with just a few approaches unless he hit the genetic lottery and so being braver and approaching lots more girls is somethi…
/r/seduction15/05/26 05:13 PM
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what's your 'go too' flirting method? You say to flirt with everyone all day. I find it hard if they clearly aren't attracted to me and not sure how best to do it. Like I work with some hot girls but they tend to be hitting on the better looking dudes as opposed to be so 'im assuming my flirting won't be welcome. But yeah, what is your flirting method. What do you say?
/r/TheRedPill15/05/26 11:09 AM
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i'll try again soon
/r/seduction12/05/26 09:07 AM
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thx
/r/seduction12/05/26 09:06 AM
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i'll field test it
/r/seduction12/05/26 09:06 AM
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you keep it super super simple. interesting. I liked the vid
/r/seduction11/05/26 06:32 AM
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what things do you say to make her attracted? I've tried some ToddV material but not having any joy with it, to he bonest (ps little FR from last night. I tried to post it as a threda but it wont let me for some reason) I approached these 3 hot girls near the dancefloor. I opened the one I liked with some sort of observation that made her laugh. Made sure too avoid interviewing her and used some lines that I got from the pickup artist toddV to try to get some attraction. I was about to ask them …
/r/seduction10/05/26 06:19 PM
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you mean to worry less about the game side of things and more on working out which girls are actually interested?
/r/seduction10/05/26 05:24 PM
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Now that I've had that convo, I can actually see where I could've improved and where I could've taken the convo. what would you have said if you could 're-run' it with her now?
/r/seduction10/05/26 05:20 PM
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nature of nightlife I guess. Frantic
/r/seduction10/05/26 02:24 PM
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I think you're right, but in that instance, more than anything, I think it was that approaching such a hot girl just seemed pointless after having just been rejected (and told I look like an ugly celeb lol) by a girl who was nowhere near as hot as this other girl was. I felt like another rejection was as certain as the sun rise
/r/seduction10/05/26 10:43 AM
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sounds like you are missing the flirting
/r/seduction10/05/26 10:17 AM
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it's worth a shot I guess.
/r/seduction10/05/26 10:16 AM
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online makes sense in that you can get so many 'appraoches' in, but the issue is most guys don't get any matches
/r/seduction10/05/26 10:15 AM
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large grocery stores maybe
/r/seduction10/05/26 10:14 AM
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it's very hard
/r/seduction10/05/26 10:12 AM
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in the day time, super rare. At night, semi-rare
/r/seduction10/05/26 09:37 AM
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could be true in some instances, i'd guess
/r/seduction10/05/26 09:37 AM
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I imagine the difference in terms of results would be extremely minimal. I don't think it would make girls who do'nt think you are hot, want you, neither make girls who think think you are handsome, turned off. They also so common now. So if you like tats, get them. But in terms of results, I believe it would make zero difference
/r/seduction10/05/26 09:35 AM
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I was kind of out alone last night Went out with a friend but he left by 9pm so I decided to do some approaches and go it solo I approached these 3 hot girls near the dancefloor. I opened the one I liked with some sort of observation that made her laugh. Made sure too avoid interviewing her and used some lines that I got from the pickup artist toddV to try to get some attraction. I was about to ask them how they knew each other, but just as I was about too, one of the girls whispered something t…
/r/seduction09/05/26 06:35 PM
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what is your method? I'm having a tough time getting attraction.
/r/seduction09/05/26 06:26 PM
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