I was literally at a protest 3/4 weeks ago. I have been arrested 3 times. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2011/12/occupy-wall-street-goes-to-court-in-droves.html There I am
"So I want to preface this by saying that I don't think I'm a major victim because I'm male..." Wishy washy guys like YOU are the reason men are in the shitty situation they are in.
Mostly with intactivists. I started by myself protesting feminism at my college campus in 2005. All I did was hand out famous feminist quotes. Looking back it was slightly cringe but 100% honest and accurate.
"Course correction". The universe has no plan for us. There is no redemption. We will probably be extinct in two centuries. At the very least the US needs to be broken up into at least two countries. Men need their own political party.
National Socialism and anarcho capitalism are not left wing. Authoritarianism is not a political ideology. Terrorism is terrorism. Anti capitalism is broad. Trotskyism and Leninism are marxist. Leninism and Marxist Leninism are the same. Maoism is beyond rare in the west.
Yes local groups are absolutely the best. Those can best organised on Reddit. There needs to be a men's rights for every continent followed up by chapters for each country and then followed by local units. MGTOW was never active. They were always defeatist.
ProMaleNorthAmerica is a sub that has been around for a year. Some from the banned ProMaleCollective are regrouping there but we need to create as many small local subs as possible so we can meet up and avoid getting banned.
Always follow the money and power trail. What does misandry justify? Labor and housing discrimination, human rights violations, and war. Who benefits from misandry the most? Rich housewives, political parties, corporations, and governments. Who does misandry hurt the most? Young, poor, and already marginalised men. Do average women benefit from misandry? Probably but it's marginal at best. Who is cannon fodder in wars? Men. Who leads revolutions and movements. Men. Feminism has been the most suc…
To be honest you're probably right. I just have no proof of that fact. One thing is for certain is that it's certainly is a feminist front NOW. If you just stated your position at the very beginning we could have avoided this disagreement.
Conscription only became a thing in the 19th century. Historically being a warrior was a lifelong profession that required years of training. It wasn't until the advent of gunpowder that that slowly began to change, and even then it took hundreds of years. Being a soldier required actual athletic ability, strength, and skill. Most men could not hack it let alone women. Disease was the greatest killer of both men and women. It wasn't until WWI that more men died from combat wounds than disease. I…
Between the misandry of the feminists and the traditional social conservatives there's little advocacy for men in the public debate. A real progressive pro male alternative is needed. OUR MOVEMENT'S GOAL IS THE EQUALIZATION OF THE POWERS AND PRIVILEGES BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN AND THE END OF THE EXPLOITATION AND ABUSE OF MEN. 1)WE REJECT THE NOTION OF A PATRIARCHY. This so called historical patriarchy is a phantom. Attributing male suffering to the so called "patriarchy" is something that feminists…
2)WE ACTIVELY OPPOSE FEMINISM. As there is no unified idea of feminism, you can't take an ideologically consistent stance toward it on it's own terms. There are dozens of recognized phalanxes that all consider themselves feminist and that define women's issues and/or women's "oppression" differently. The only thing all feminisms claim to have in common is that their goal is to help women due to systemic/historic oppression. Even the most radical wings which hold to patriarchy theory take differe…
Between the misandry of the feminists and the traditional social conservatives there's little advocacy for men in the public debate. A real progressive pro male alternative is needed. OUR MOVEMENT'S GOAL IS THE EQUALIZATION OF THE POWERS AND PRIVILEGES BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN AND THE END OF THE EXPLOITATION AND ABUSE OF MEN. 1)WE REJECT THE NOTION OF A PATRIARCHY. This so called historical patriarchy is a phantom. Attributing male suffering to the so called "patriarchy" is something that feminists…
2)WE ACTIVELY OPPOSE FEMINISM. As there is no unified idea of feminism, you can't take an ideologically consistent stance toward it on it's own terms. There are dozens of recognized phalanxes that all consider themselves feminist and that define women's issues and/or women's "oppression" differently. The only thing all feminisms claim to have in common is that their goal is to help women due to systemic/historic oppression. Even the most radical wings which hold to patriarchy theory take differe…
5)WE REJECT ESSENTIALISM IN FAVOR OF MATERIALISM Discussing the essentials characteristics of any group of people is the graveyard of any movement. Human beings have always been social animals and our societies have always been shaped by the geography and climate of their environment. For too long men have had their identities thrust up on them. It is up to men to determine their own identity and destiny. What we do is not "identity politics" because we are NOT just looking for more "respect" or…
Societies that don't respect human rights deserve to fall. Getting married and reproducing is not "contributing to society". If women don't want to lose their husbands they can fight besides them.
"Most impacted by mobilization were the more educated women who were married with children during World War II." "Many of the women who were working in the outside labor force prior to the war were lower class and usually minorities." If you're going to provide such limited resources to back up your claims, you may as well read the sources you site.
Actually back then genuine traditionalism was far more equitable between the sexes. 1950s plastic traditionalism is nothing more than female parasitism.
Nobody forced women to stay at home. That was only a unique privilege of a unique time in history due to the post-war boom. Most normal women worked throughout history.
EVERYTHING ultimately has some biological source. What were seeing today is not just unintentional misandry or double standards, it's just straight up bigotry. These are ideas and misconceptions that have to be taught.
I used to be a mgtow and think it was all biology, but natural selection is not that dysfunctional. Sexual dimorphism exists in the animal kingdom, but no social mammal with such few natural defences(claws, horns, fangs, fur) could be so hopelessly lop-sided and survive a 2 million year ice age. These people are not falling back on some easy natural "instinctual" behavior. This is trained ideological behavior.
It didn't take long to remove your mask. You sound like a feminist with the incel talk. Actually it's tradcons like you that "ruin women", not leftists, Jewish aliens, or "bad men". Have fun looking for a "submissive woman" to make you sammiches. No self respecting man enables female parasitism.
Look at Bill Cosby, Strauss-Khan, and Johnny Depp. It's not homeless men that are getting falsely accused. Women usually make false accusations because they want something.
I have noticed my whole life that while many women hate to be made to feel awkward, they don't mind being awkward or putting other people in awkward situations. This has nothing to do with empathy or boundaries but rather some social dominance play by which they get men to be on eggshells around them. It's like dealing with a perpetually difficult customer.
No what he means is they are preaching violence. You have a hard time understanding what your own "brothers" are saying because you don't yourself know what you believe.
15 years ago MGTOW explicitly stated that it rejected the protector provider role. MGTOW devolved. The MRM devolved. It just became an assortment of gurus and grifters looking to separate desperate men from their money.
Am I not arrogant enough and therefore alpha??? I thought this is how you come across like a dude bro. I'm a dude bro too bro! We should chill and talk about slaying puss! Real men for the win!
HAVING A FAMILY SHOULD BE A TEAM EFFORT. Jesus Christ I don't even believe in reproduction I understand this. My parents should have been sterilized. You don't have a duty to reproduce or to make anyone happy. If you like her then stay with her but it should be because YOU MAKE EACH OTHER HAPPY.
My guy, there are so many men out there that think just like you. You remind me of what my frat brothers would have been like years later. They weren't bad people but I figured out quickly that I had nothing in common with them. You're just absorbing the rhetoric in the world around you without reflecting. I'm no success story myself but stop parroting these sound bites.
"I don't provide anywhere close to the life for her that I would like to. And she has to work as well." Bro you shouldn't have to think like this. You're thinking is ass backwards. You shouldn't have to provide for any other human being any type of life except your children.
There's nothing "crazy" about being lesbian or bisexual. Lots of openly gay people marry these days. In the past it was quite common for homosexuals to hide their identity because of right-wing homophobia.
Was she brainwashed by the Marxist Jews in Hollywood to turn lesbo?? Homosexuality is totally not cool unless it's female on female, then it's totally HOT.
You big dumbolla. You have been posting in our group. Remember I told you that our space wasn't really suited to right-wingers like you??? I didn't even boot you out.
If you're happily married and your wife is a anti-feminist too, what are you doing spending all your time on the internet? Don't you have some protests to attend to in real life?
I've never banned anyone from The Pro Male Collective. We took down a post the other day because it was MGTOW AND PUA related which was in direct violation of our rules. This thread proves why we don't want guys like you in our group. You are losers posturing on the internet. Every online space you infect with your low effort delusional b*** you destroy. Have fun telling other men that they shouldn't engage in activism because activism is for "weak faygets"..
Tossing a coin is a stupid risk to take. It's worse than playing Russian roulette. You can live your life without being a fake codependent baby that postures on the internet about being a real man.
What makes someone a feminist is the fact that they're upset?? I'm glad I told you to leave our sub. My instincts were right. Work for the Heritage Foundation. Actually get involved in something that matches up with your purported values.
All seriousness wouldn't you be better just jerking off to porn and buying a German Shepherd for company? Do you enjoy punching keyboards on the internet and talking to other douchebags? Do you have any friends in real life?
"Chicks gonna chick, and snakes gonna hiss breh." YA BREHH, AIN'T NOTHING YOU CAN DOO BREHH!!! IT'S MOTHER NATURE BREHH!!! WE CAN JUST MAKE POSTS ON THE INTERNET ABOUT WOMEN BREHH AND WHEN OUR REDDIT GETS TAKEN DOWN WE CREATE A NEW ONE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT WOMEN BREH!!! MGTOW IS WINNING EVERYWHERE. LONG LIVE THE GLOBALIST RIGHT-WING REVOLUTION.
That's not true at all. Men were just as obligated to consummate the marriage. The whole point of marriage was to produce children who would take care of their parents in old age.
Lmao I'm brainwashed with the experience of my own normal natural body!!! Do you realize how easy it is to keep wash your private areas. The teeth are far more problematic than any other part of the body. Do you realize how many people used to die from teeth infections hundreds of years ago???
You don't need you don't need to be a doctor to understand basic human anatomy. I'm 41 years old and I've never had an STI, UTI, or yeast infection. I had a kidney infection a year ago from not drinking enough water, but that's about it. NOBODY has ever died from not being mutilated. Genital mutilation is a stone age bloodthirsty barbaric theistic ritual. You don't need to be a brain surgeon to understand this.
What you're saying is not surprising at all. Most mutilated men rationalize what was done to them because they were absolutely powerless. Typically it's far worse if they come from a religious culture. It's a part of your whole theistic dogma.
What do you care what other cultures do??? There are thousands of cultures on this planet. And many of them do all sorts of horrible things. The vast majority of cultures do NOT practice genital mutilation. THAT should tell you something. It's up to YOU to protect your son from physical harm, especially when he is a baby.
How many times do you bathe a month? Are you and your wife able to bathe at the same time or do you have to take turns? Is the smell of problem when you have sex?
Clearly this is just a tribal thing. This has nothing to do with health. I take it you are from a different tribe. Tell your husband it should be up to your son how we decides to affiliate culturally.
There are far more effective avenues of affecting social change then trying to have heart to heart conversations with every s*** bag stranger that exists on this planet.
You realize that during World war I all the ruling families of Europe were related to one another right??? Literally all of history is just about men killing other men for the entertainment of ruling class women.
Nobody ever votes for war. Politicians have always been more than eager to drum up any excuse to serve the wealthy, and war has only ever benefited the wealthy.
Well that is all true I think it should be blatantly obvious to anyone that feminism is calculatedly anti-male. It's not just hysterical women being hysterical. They have an agenda of oppressing men.
"an overwhelming majority of men are inclined to protect women at all costs." This is precisely the reason why we're in this situation the first place. I never understood why any man would want to protect a complete stranger just because they belong to a particular group.
Have you ever talked to someone that's watched their children get raped and killed in front of their very eyes? Have you talked to people that have been through ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavian States?
I have zero interest in feeling people's pain especially women's. I'm only willing to engage with men on a deeper level if they show that they're capable of partnership. I'm not interested in making "special connections" or seeing other people's point of view.
I wish I had some superpower by which I could give people cancer by touching them gently. Hell I would settle for some sort of ray gun. It'll be pretty useless weapon for self-defense but incredibly crafty for assassination. Lololol.
Get involved in the Republican party or the conservative party or whatever political party in your country that is right wing. Men's rights is not the place for you.
Ok. I realized my comment might have sound strange at first. This subject is a pet peeve of mine because there are many nurses that still think that you are supposed to scrub and wash underneath the foreskin which only causes irritations and infections.
I know in a lot of countries women are the majority of doctors. From personal experience I've known my whole life how many women are in the medical profession.
"Black Lives Matter" is just a front for intersectional feminist organizations. They do not care about black men. They are NOT a Grassroots movement of black men speaking out against oppression.
In spite of his bigotry I really do like how kuklinski's quote about centrism. Nevertheless it is guys like this that deserve the most criticism because there's some hope no matter how slim that we might actually change their minds.
I personally want your sister to go to war. ME. YOU are the reason why we have all these shity wars in the world. If women were drafted alongside men we wouldn't have nearly half the conflicts we do.
You are assuming that all people are reasonable. Women love to assert their dominance over men. The sentiment is not just awful but sets a dangerous precedent. What's next? Gas the men.
So if companies decide to manufacture planes and cars that are defective and kill people, that's ok cuz free markets? Since when is advocacy of violence protected?
