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The work and results are for yourself, not women. Women are just a nice bonus. Getting rich, getting ripped, and going to therapy actually make you feel good. Also, don't play a woman's game. If she makes you wait too long, leave. If you don't have sex after 3-5 dates, bail. It means she's not that physically attracted to you.
/r/seduction06/09/22 07:13 AM
4

virtue signaling lol. And yes, they usually do do "this".
/r/seduction03/09/22 07:33 PM
4

he means desperate by 'thirsty', not horny.
/r/seduction17/08/22 01:29 PM
12

there's nothing "dark triad" about respecting yourself lol.
/r/seduction17/08/22 01:27 PM
17

excellent post. This is why you don't bring up relationships first with a woman. Just treat her as a fuck buddy until then. What she says before you are official means absolutely nothing and she'll change her mind in an instant. Watch her actions, not her words. This is basically just women using men for attention/commitment and as soon as they get it they leave. It's the same idea as men dumping a woman right after they have sex with her. It's a very narcissistic way to get validation that she …
/r/seduction11/08/22 01:55 AM
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It's not pointless. You improve your odds and can turn "maybe's" into "yes's". You won't turn no's into yes's though. So if you get better with game, you don't have to get rejected so much before you get success. Maybe your odds improve from 1/20 to 1/10 or something like that with better game. If you get really good AND are physically attractive, you can get to like 1/3. EDIT: Also, you learn game by approaching more and actually attempting to implement what you read. Approaching is an integral…
/r/seduction10/08/22 03:27 PM
1

That would be true if everyone's ratings were random, but in practice, most people's ratings are fairly accurate. Read the studies. Most people can naturally identify these generally attractive traits (conveys an evolutionary advantage to the offspring for the potential parent to be able to identify a healthy mate). EDIT: So yes, there are going to be outliers and I wouldn't take one rating as the absolute truth, but I think once you get a few ratings, you could filter out the outliers and get a…
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:35 PM
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Actual studies haven been done on attractiveness. There absolutely are traits considered generally attractive and yes, you can put them in a scale. EDIT: To your example, as you get more ratings, they would eventually center around a particular number/rating.
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:26 PM
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The scale may not be useful to you if you have some outlier tastes, but it is useful to most people, hence the "generally" in "generally attractive". You can google these traits if you like - I'm not going to do the work for you.
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:20 PM
1

The term "incel" is way overused and overapplied nowadays. It's just a sexist/misandrist insult for anything arguing men's POV in dating. Take a look at r/dating. It's basically just an echo-chamber arguing women's pov because they ban any men's pov. At least r/dating_advice considers both sides. The reality is dating is a compromise between men and women. You can have the most hardline/pro-whatever-sex-you-are stance, but if no one that you find a suitable partner agrees to it, it means nothing…
/r/seduction31/07/22 08:04 PM
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there are traits which are considered generally attractive, regardless of your individual preference.
/r/seduction31/07/22 06:58 PM
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I'm not willing to date the women who want to date me. They're way below any objective reasonable standard. The obese women on dating sites who usually like me can fuck right off. I'm not even overweight, let alone obese. I have decent muscle mass/figure as well. I make good money. I own a home. I have a social hobby. But I'm never going to become Mr. Life of the Party nor be a tall guy.
/r/seduction31/07/22 02:18 PM
1

It's a useful metric to classify people in this context. No one is suggesting that their entire worth is wrapped up in a 1-10 scale.
/r/seduction31/07/22 02:02 PM
5

exactly. What physically attractive women is dealing with men 100% honestly in 2022? None. Watch their actions, not their words.
/r/seduction25/07/22 04:31 PM
1

Ask her out. Escalate quickly. Take indecisive answers as a no. She might even come out and say she has a boyfriend.
/r/seduction23/07/22 02:38 AM
1

No sex, no relationship. Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Sex should be pretty frequent in your 20's and 30's, especially with no kids. If it's not, there's something very wrong. I see you say you've tried talking with her a number of times and she just shuts you down. I'd leave unless you want to stay a little longer for free rent to save up for a house down payment.
/r/seduction21/07/22 01:35 PM
0

Call me a sociopath or something, but I don't get that much happiness from brightening up some random person's day, no matter how attractive they are.
/r/seduction17/07/22 04:47 PM
3

It's fairly common to have group dates in certain Asian countries. Even so, I don't live in one of them and am not willing to play those games. It generally means she's not interested.
/r/seduction16/07/22 12:00 PM
1

you can either try to game an algo or you can go hit on women in real life. Guess which one is a better use of time.
/r/seduction15/07/22 10:15 PM
113

you're probably just a bit shy about escalating because you care about her reaction too much. You just need to go for it. Ask something risque, ask her out, etc.
/r/seduction13/07/22 03:13 AM
1

It depends what type of women you're after. The even somewhat attractive white/asian girls are basically only going to entertain advances from super attractive guys...be at least 5'10'' (178 cm), fit body (not necessarily super muscular, but fit/low body fat), very social/outgoing, good facial structure (strong jawline/high cheek bones), preferably white, but in major cities you can be other races and not have it be a huge issue since they're very diverse. I will say most people are with people …
/r/seduction05/07/22 01:51 PM
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be a tall white guy. That's about it because it's populated with tall white guys. Those places suck for picking up women if you're not.
/r/seduction05/07/22 01:43 PM
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You need to come up with some interesting stories of your own. I get not every day is super exciting, but if you haven't done anything exciting in your entire life, you probably need to get out more. You need to practice telling these stories in an animated/charismatic fashion (preferably with a female friend or at a cocktail party). Write them on a notecard if you have to. Some good topics are travel, interesting people you met, funny things that happened, etc. Too many people over-rely on just…
/r/seduction02/07/22 12:52 PM
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Agreed, conversation is a two way street! You can't talk to a brick wall (aka someone giving short responses with no questions asked back beyond the lazy "and you?").
/r/seduction02/07/22 12:47 PM
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The key being AS LONG AS YOU'RE AT LEAST ACCEPTABLE IN THE OTHER CATEGORIES OR SO UTTERLY AMAZING IN THE ONE CATEGORY SHE VALUES THE MOST THAT IT MAKES UP FOR YOUR OTHER SHORTCOMINGS. The reality is women find MOST men physically unattractive according to the OKCupid study and it's usually the hardest category to meet her standards, although you certainly can with proper diet, exercise, dressing well, etc, which requires an insane amount of discipline and/or good genetics.
/r/seduction25/06/22 02:36 PM
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That's not to say having game doesn't help, but it's unlikely to make the difference if she finds you physically unattractive. And we know that women find most men physically unattractive from the OkCupid study. But obviously you do have the power to become more physically attractive by losing weight, working out, dressing better, etc in addition to practicing your game by hitting on girls repeatedly. Change what you can change and don't worry about the stuff you can't (height, facial structure,…
/r/seduction25/06/22 02:22 PM
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he's physically attractive. He can say whatever he wants (within reason). He thinks he's a conversational genius when it's really he's just physically attractive and bold. It's pretty common on here.
/r/seduction23/06/22 06:27 PM
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I think you missed the part about most of your success not being due to some magic conversation formula.
/r/seduction23/06/22 01:28 PM
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you wrote a novel about how to have a basic conversation...without realizing that 99% of your success was literally just trying it repeatedly and being at least somewhat physically attractive.
/r/seduction23/06/22 05:20 AM
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The real issue is that how long she makes you wait is generally an indicator of her level of sexual attraction to you (whether she admits it or not). I guarantee she doesn't apply the same wait time to all the guys (or even most guys). If she's more physically attracted to you, she'll have sex with you more quickly. Don't fall for her virtue signaling bullshit. She doesn't "value you more" by making you wait. In fact, it's the opposite. Watch her actions, not her words.
/r/seduction21/06/22 05:18 PM
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testosterone. That's the main difference. It means sex is more of a priority for men. Also, you make the classic mistake thinking men ONLY want sex. No, they want all the other general friendship/intimacy stuff too.
/r/seduction11/06/22 11:23 AM
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you got some real crazy illusions of women's control/action lol. Even if she did "hint" at it, it's not like hinting at something qualifies as real action. Women think that even casually glancing at a guy for half a second is some big signal lol. But I do agree she likely did want to deny accountability for it. EDIT: It's easy and low risk to give subtle "hints". It's quite a bit harder to actually go do the thing she's hinting at.
/r/seduction10/06/22 04:22 AM
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I'm not sure how old you are, but I date adults. Adults with jobs who should be able to keep a basic schedule. I assume the woman has a calendar. If she can't keep a basic schedule a week out, I have zero faith in her having enough interest in me. Basic etiquette says she should be texting me well before the day of if she can't make it. The fact I even have to check the day of is bullshit. But I do it anyway because far too many will just stand guys up whether they "forget" or it's intentional. …
/r/seduction28/05/22 08:12 PM
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1) Lose weight. It shouldn't be that hard at 18 with a super high metabolism. Work out regularly (including body weight/strength training, not just cardio) and count your calories. Search online for tdee calculator to know how many calories. Eat at a 500 cal/day deficit to lose 1 lb/week. Eat healthy as well. I do want to add that the most physically attractive BMI for women generally occurs at BMI 19-22, which is on the slimmer side of healthy. Don't go overboard and develop eating disorders. 2…
/r/seduction24/05/22 10:57 PM
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Yea, it's a low success rate thing. Most women (especially attractive women) have a ton of guys hitting on them that they don't need to resort to dating randos. I'm sure you can use it as practice though. Your hesitancy is well founded in one sense (success rate is low), but if you go into it with the thought that even talking to her is the goal, then you win.
/r/seduction23/05/22 08:52 PM
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oops, you've fallen into the trap of attacking the person (with 0 evidence I might add). This ad hominem fallacy is typically done by people with poor reasoning skills who need to resort to namecalling unprovoked. More of this sex god crap lol. Women with low libido exist, in much higher numbers than in men. Also, as women age, their hormones decrease how much they want sex (even moreso than men). Also, sure, there might be someone a non-low libido women is totally into, but it's not always you …
/r/seduction23/05/22 01:58 AM
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Important to remember SOME women like these things. Some are total prudes and would rather have missionary sex like once a month, if at all. Talk about it beforehand to get a sense of where she is. On average, guys are hornier.
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:13 AM
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It depends on the woman and how many sexual partners she's had. You can't make a Ho a Housewife! :)
/r/seduction21/05/22 09:39 PM
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Beta Orbiters = gaggle of guys falling over themselves to make her happy. Basically, she's a female player and male attention is the currency. Don't get played, boys. Don't chase. Look for consistent reciprocation. Anything less is an immediate next!
/r/seduction21/05/22 09:12 PM
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I'll take the bullet and try to explain basic stuff that I probably shouldn't have to: It'll just increase your odds. You still need to hit on a ton of women. They're not going to fall into your lap because you have a sixpack. Also, it's still possible to be ugly and fit, but it's better than being ugly and fat. It depends how much you've improved. Can someone tell that you're more in shape, even with a shirt on? Getting slightly more in shape probably won't matter that much in terms of dating (…
/r/seduction21/05/22 02:26 PM
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Your responses were astoundingly mature. I'm sure she noticed. Most inexperienced guys would freeze up/lose their nerve when she asked "Boba?" when you first asked her out instead of calmly responding "Do you not like Boba?". You didn't lose your confidence when a more attractive guy hit on her. You had repeated contact with her. You weren't afraid to drop some sexual hints on the date and were mature enough to lay out what you wanted in a relationship.
/r/seduction20/05/22 05:26 AM
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reddit is overrun by female supremacists in certain subs. Their "advice" on dating for straight men is extremely biased against men. They also lack the nuance to explain how to do it correctly and instead give horrible blanket advice like never approach women in public. The biggest takeaway from this is that there are assholes of both sexes and many of them are on reddit. It's honestly more entertainment than taking them seriously at this point. The dating subs are a joke. When you see blatantly…
/r/seduction18/05/22 01:40 AM
3

Honestly, very rare for a single guy to have a female best friend (unless he's gay). Most guys have more things in common with other men. Clearly you have a unique situation for how it happened (you were intimate before). As a single guy, I genuinely don't want to hang out with a girl I wouldn't want to have sex with, or at the least they're at the very lowest priority. My sexual needs are first before plutonically befriending women. I won't rule it out and I do see the utility of remaining frie…
/r/seduction17/05/22 09:48 PM
1

Respectfully, you have zero clue how to pick up a straight woman (without using your body) and I have no idea why you're giving advice here. The fact you're even getting upvotes shows what a simping sub this is. Being a presumably straight woman makes you blind to this in the worst way - self-serving advice. No one wants to be your therapist unless you pay them. The correct response is a few minutes of sympathizing and nodding along and then quickly change the subject to something more fun. The …
/r/seduction16/05/22 02:58 AM
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exactly. If you shy away from it because others say you're bad at it, you'll just get stuck in a vicious cycle of not practicing what you're bad at and consequently getting worse at it in comparison to others who do practice. You need to keep trying despite the embarrassment. It's true in sport and true in life. Lower odds of success just means you need more attempts/more practice. If you keep trying, eventually you'll find someone good. While getting rejected is not pleasant, you become less se…
/r/seduction12/05/22 06:50 PM
5

It's less about what you say and more about how decisively you act.
/r/seduction11/05/22 01:49 PM
2

You need to escalate physically more quickly and stop treating her as a plutonic friend. Ask deep/personal/emotion-revealing questions and be vulnerable yourself, flirt with her, and escalate quickly. Honestly, you're better off going a little bit too quickly to than too slowly. But yes, many women are horribly indecisive and will change their mind at a moment's notice. It's also very possibly they met someone they connected with better and now you're the backup option. You can't take her seriou…
/r/seduction11/05/22 01:28 PM
1

I think this is more of opinion than anything else. I believe more in teh "eye for an eye" type thing. If someone is rude, there's no reason to "turn the other cheek".
/r/seduction09/05/22 12:05 PM
0

no, those are two different things - one is actively rude and deserves punishment while the other does not sometimes. If they say something shitty, say something shitty back and block them. If they ghost you, say something shitty to them and block them. If it's only been like one date and they stop talking to you, then just move on without saying anything.
/r/seduction09/05/22 04:00 AM
7

exactly. Think of a generic opener and send it to many women. They mostly care about your appearance anyway. Taking better photos and getting in shape is probably the more important thing.
/r/seduction24/04/22 11:27 AM
3

I've had girls try to make eye contact with me while making out with their boyfriends in public. Very weird. Like I don't really want to see that TBH, much less the weird eye contact. Yea shit happens. She's just bored and horny. Don't do anything stupid. It's not worth it.
/r/seduction19/04/22 07:12 PM
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Yea, it's basically a very manipulated show of emotions that works...basically like a job interview. Something small that you're working to change. It doesn't really help you, but it makes them feel like they're included in your inner circle.
/r/seduction13/04/22 04:52 PM
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not for a long-term relationship, but probably for a short-term/one-night stand one. Regardless of how good she looks, if she won't carry a conversation, there's nothing there.
/r/seduction29/03/22 10:15 PM
7

there are some less attractive looking girls with some amount of game, although not too many. Also, they have to develop some game when they get older/have kids/etc. In the meantime, just leave if she won't share the burden of carrying the conversation. Look for CONSISTENT RECIPROCATION.
/r/seduction29/03/22 10:08 PM
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case in point - virtue signaling combined with whataboutism.
/r/seduction29/03/22 08:51 PM
4

the unspoken part of your comment (virtue signal much?) being they have to be SUPER ATTRACTIVE guys who don't hurt them lol. The bar is actually unbelievably high.
/r/seduction29/03/22 08:40 PM
1

It's really about consistent reciprocation. Is she consistently initiating and reciprocating dates, conversations, sex. I think the basis of any adult interaction is transactional, at least in the beginning. You put in a little bit of effort and see if you get something worthwhile in return. If she responds one-word or buisness-like to you, walk away. If you ask her out and she can't make it but doesn't give a specific time to reschedule, walk away. Don't put effort into a black hole. Don't let …
/r/seduction23/03/22 04:02 AM
1

It's not impossible, but statistically unlikely. You need to stand out in some other way. Perhaps you can develop an amazingly witty, charming personality, but keep in mind Chads can also have amazing personalities. You'd need to hit on an utter f*ckton of attractive women to make the odds.
/r/seduction21/03/22 08:15 PM
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you make it sound like it's a given lol. Far from it. Most people don't make anywhere near that. ONLY IF HE GETS CONSISTENTLY PROMOTED (or hired to better jobs elsewhere) ABOVE ALL THE OTHER REALLY SMART, HARDWORKING PEOPLE THERE.
/r/seduction21/03/22 08:08 PM
3

Everything worse than the ideal is basically a strike against you. So yes, being short (relative to other men in your area) is strike. Being ugly is another strike. Having no or bad personality is a strike, etc. Unfortunately, you can't really fix your height so focus on improving what you can. That said, the amount of people who utterly disregard that it's a disadvantage (at least in the US) and invalidate people's experiences for being short is ridiculous. I have to say the people who do this …
/r/seduction18/03/22 11:18 PM
6

I just leave it blank :) And frankly, if someone cares that much about something I have 0 control over, it's not worth talking to them. Second option is just put 5'10'' because the biggest obstacle for guys is actually getting a girl out on a date from an OLD website so might as well not limit anything. That whole "we care because you lied" is just a red herring so women can be shallow - it's an extremely small lie (no pun intended). Also, if there was any fairness to online dating, women would …
/r/seduction18/03/22 11:09 PM
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I have a feeling that people don't want to acknowledge it because it's uncomfortable: a) for non-short guys - they have to realize that they have it better and still suck at picking up women. Or even if successful, they still have it easier. b) for women - It would be openly admitting they're shallow. And women care a lot about reputation/virtue signaling.
/r/seduction15/03/22 12:47 PM
3

I find many women leave you alone when they find they can't take advantage of you. Like when you don't tolerate their bullshit and give off very confident vibes you scare away the users, which unfortunately is many of the women (although obviously it's a good thing). In some cases, becoming more successful and confident can actually have the opposite effect in terms of attracting women.
/r/seduction13/03/22 02:46 PM
4

The issue is many women's idea of "friendship" with a guy is using him for emotional support and free meals. Don't pay for her shit. Don't be her therapist. Don't be the only one asking her to events. Expect reciprocation. Then it's fine. And try to hit on her friends. If there's nothing there, move on. To be honest, I'd treat her more like an acquaintance (until she proves she can be an actual friend) and see if her network is of any use to you. Also, as many people have mentioned, often the "l…
/r/seduction08/03/22 07:01 PM
1

yea, occasionally that works, but it's still trying to fish out effort from someone who is giving you clear signs she's at best ambivalent. It's sort of a "the ball's in your court" type of move.
/r/seduction01/03/22 08:52 PM
1

This is pretty similar to the girl asking you to fix her computer/do her homework/help her move/etc. She doesn't like you and only sees you as a possible source of free labor. Look for CONSISTENT RECIPROCATION. Even when you're in a committed relationshipo, it's not like you should be doing her chores/work unless she's doing an equal amount of your work/chores in return. Lots of scam artist women like to try to take advantage of men. It's confusing because you go to her thinking you want a relat…
/r/TheRedPill27/02/22 06:25 PM
1

Anything you say (within the realm of reason) works 85% of the time if you're good-looking lol. In other words, this doesn't prove anything and it's a pretty bad approach with like a .0000001% success rate if you're not good-looking. I'm not sure if it's just ego or you're trying to sell something where you think this is actually good.
/r/seduction24/02/22 08:39 PM
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I agree they're not quite as straightforward as guys, but they're very easy to understand. Watch their actions, not their words. Are they consistently reciprocating and initiating dates, conversations, sex, etc.? If not, leave. At the end of the day, all humans are subject to the law of effort - they won't put effort/time into something they don't value (unless they're forced to obviously). Along these same lines, if it's not an enthusiastic yes, it's a no. Also, ignoring you is a response - tak…
/r/seduction24/02/22 01:22 AM
4

Exactly...it's like whenever someone asks you "what's your greatest weakness" on a job interview. Have a prepared response about something not super important that you're actively working on fixing.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/22 06:04 PM
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The ones who mind don't matter and the ones who matter won't mind. But yes, statistically women don't like short men as much due to sexual dimorphism - height is one of those traits that differentiate men from women and turn on women. But lower odds only mean you need to ask more girls out. And as others have mentioned you can improve your odds through compensating in other categories (social skills, money, status, etc.).
/r/seduction10/02/22 10:02 PM
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there's a difference between an objectively bad comment and someone with a differing opinion. The worst is when people confuse the two and it turns into an echo chamber where only that one opinion gets upvoted and everything else gets downvoted, when in reality there are many other valid points of view. As to the other part, there's always going to be haters. Just ignore/block them.
/r/seduction03/02/22 04:40 PM
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I always mentally add in the health cost of a food to it's actual cost. So if it's cheap but bad for me, I add money. If it's expensive, but good for me, I subtract. The problem is that this health cost/benefit is not immediately apparent, whereas saving money/time in the short-term is. Suffice it to say healthcare costs are high and so is the cost of having low energy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/01/22 05:55 PM
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It's a valid question. Vast majority of people do learn this by high school. OP could be younger.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/22 04:05 PM
1

Pretty simple. Just give them the same level of comeback. I'm sure they have shortfalls as well and are not perfect. Turn the tables by focusing on their shortcomings (past or present). Watch some standup comedy. You could even prepare in advance since you know the 3 people. Things that won't work: telling them seriously that hurt your feelings. It will make you look weak like you care too much (which you do) and you'll just be a bigger punching bag. giving very serious/hurtful comebacks. It jus…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/22 05:46 PM
2

No, working on your social skills and practicing flirting with women consistently will probably give you a bigger boost. That's not to say if you were like noticeably fat with a shirt on you wouldn't get a small boost to the same level non-fat people are. Now, if you became really ripped, you'd probably see a difference, but that's different from just being fit.
/r/seduction27/01/22 02:07 AM
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I agree, but I think the idea is you just need to give it enough time/attempts/etc to satisfy statistics before determining it to be not a good plan. This does not mean giving up on the first setback.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/22 04:45 PM
1

In general I agree - don't ask a fish how to fish, especially if that fish a bitter online troll. However, the one area women do have good advice about dating for men is identifying red flags in women. Ironic, I know. Women have had more experience in dealing with the BS other women do so they're aware of what to watch out for more than men. But they know very little about actually seducing women.
/r/seduction19/01/22 01:55 AM
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Yep, which is why I don't trust anything until at least 6 months in. It's all nonsense until then. Watch their actions, not their words.
/r/seduction14/01/22 12:13 PM
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lol at "riddled". We're not a disease.
/r/seduction13/01/22 11:41 AM
6

miracles do happen! JK, but I'd be way more impressed if you could do this on a consistent basis. The reality is clubs aren't great odds unless you're very good looking.
/r/seduction09/01/22 04:15 AM
0

that's weird and makes you look awkward, but I guess it's okay given the situation OP is in (didn't escalate enough previously). Also, I guess it depends on the girl - I guess she's young enough for the whole "consent is sexy" thing. Probably a red flag that OP has to ask consent for something as basic as holding hands. I can't imagine what sex is like...is this okay? is this okay? is this okay? lol. Personally I'd be gone if we hadn't so much as kissed by date 2. OP didn't escalate enough on th…
/r/seduction08/01/22 09:38 AM
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Personally, I can't stand the typical club - drunk, sweaty, obnoxious, expensive. I also can't hear a word anyone is saying. However, there were some salsa dancing ones that I did enjoy when I was younger.
/r/seduction02/01/22 04:38 AM
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you stop going to clubs to pick up women. It's really that easy. Clubbing to pick up women is mainly for the super physically attractive guys. Now, if you happen to actually enjoy clubs for the music or whatever, then by all means continue to go.
/r/seduction02/01/22 03:57 AM
2

They don't "play the game better"...I'd argue they're actually pretty bad at game TBH. How many ugly women have talked their way into your pants or have you even wasted much attention at all on? Many women just have a natural advantage being young and hot, but it doesn't last forever.
/r/seduction02/01/22 03:52 AM
1

Exactly. I've enjoyed just not going to clubs TBH. I despise the idea of wasting time flirting with some chick for her to go make out with some hot guy in half a second. I think I would enjoy them more if I was a young woman or a super physically attractive guy. I really only enjoy them if I go with an actual girlfriend (not just a date).
/r/seduction02/01/22 03:38 AM
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no, you should do it to try to form a connection. Who cares about her ego. Do it for yourself...ask her out quickly and move on if she says she has a boyfriend.
/r/seduction31/12/21 04:12 PM
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So proud of the comments on this calling this woman out: She gave him a signal because she found him attractive. It won't work otherwise. Also, she's in a relationship...why was she not rejecting advances from men approaching her - ego boost and keep potential backup mates around. Basically, self-serving bullshit.
/r/seduction31/12/21 04:08 PM
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In all seriousness: There are youtube tutorials using Selenium. Doesn't look that hard. Also, you can add an automated first message. I think if you search something like 'Selenium tinder automatic swipe' you'll find some. As to the ML part, you could probably use python libraries. I would train it on a set of skinny fashion models. Not exactly sure how well it will work, but worth a shot.
/r/seduction10/12/21 01:36 PM
1

respect yourself and your time. If she's not consistently reciprocating your effort (and initiating herself) in dates, sex, conversations, etc, you have to leave.
/r/seduction08/12/21 05:01 PM
7

It's funny that you have a lot in common with younger guys (both annoyed at the amount of work it is to approach/lead). At some age, the tables do turn. Usually it's guys asking out the hot, young women and then as they get older, usually the women actually have to do some work beyond looking pretty. It's usually a shock to them as they've been utterly spoiled their entire lives with male attention up until ~35 years old. Consider that a lot of the guys are really kind of tired of it after ~20 y…
/r/seduction04/12/21 06:12 AM
15

As you get older, you start to see people for the self-interested beings they are and you don't particularly care how physically attractive/good personality/etc someone is unless they consistently reciprocate your interest. And the other thing is you realize most young, attractive women are really just going to jump to another guy as soon as something not-perfect happens (or even if a perceived better option comes along) since they have so many options so how could you really even begin to care …
/r/seduction30/11/21 12:17 AM
14

post is "no shit" obvious. The key is WHERE do you find the attractive women where they are receptive to being approached? The answer is find a hobby (meets regularly, same people more or less go) you are interested in that has some attractive single girls in it. You might have to search around, but it can't be solely about finding women or it'll appear really desperate. You have to have some interest in it as well.
/r/seduction26/11/21 11:32 PM
7

speed dating events are great, even just to practice talking to random women. Go in with zero expectations, have a few prepared ice breakers and fun stories about yourself and you'll be golden. It's no magic key to getting a girlfriend but after a few of these you can pretty much talk to anyone.
/r/seduction26/11/21 11:31 PM
1

you clearly didn't understand from your other post lol. You mentioned going to grad school as my proposed plan. Also, the vast majority of college-going young adults will not understand the full realities of the labor market because they haven't worked many years in it! Not sure why you think this is condescending. Money = opportunity and options
/r/seduction24/11/21 05:42 PM
1

exceptions don't make the rule is my point. OP had some wrong assumptions. It's totally fine if he understands the realities of his chosen major, but it sounds like he doesn't fully grasp it. And you're also wrongly interpreting what I said. I said grad schools/starting a business/etc may not work out so at least have an undergrad degree job backup that's a good salary.
/r/seduction24/11/21 05:39 PM
1

exceptions don't make the rule is my point. OP had some wrong assumptions. It's totally fine if he understands the realities of his chosen major, but it sounds like he doesn't fully grasp it. Honestly, if just one person reads what I wrote and understands it, I'll be happy regardless of whether OP decides anything different or not. And you're also wrongly interpreting what I said. I said grad schools/starting a business/etc may not work out so at least have an undergrad degree job backup that's …
/r/seduction24/11/21 05:18 PM
1

well I tried. I guess you'll have to learn the hard way. There's a reason the H1B visa immigrants generally get paid more than the average american...they have the valuable skills! And you're literally just increasing your viable options. You can still do other stuff (go to various grad schools, start a business, study psych in your free time, etc.), but at least have a good career out of undergrad. The reality is that those other options are more speculative so if they don't work out at least y…
/r/seduction24/11/21 04:21 PM
1

not the high-paying ones. The labor market is not as forgiving as you think it is. You need the relevant degree to distinguish yourself and go further in your career. Sure, there are exceptions, but they are just that...exceptions who put in a ton of extra effort to go learn basically an entirely new field on top of working full time. And you tend to cap out earlier in skills/salary without the relevant degree anyway. EDIT: I'll also say avoid general business major or a marketing major as an un…
/r/seduction24/11/21 04:04 PM
0

There are other things like accounting, econ, etc. They lead to tangible jobs. Not everyone needs to be a programmer. Wouldn't you rather make more money and still be able to work on the side? There's also the thing that the more valuable your skills are, the better you get treated by employers.
/r/seduction24/11/21 04:01 PM
0

just because your parents pay for it doesn't mean you want to waste the time. Right now you are young and have a few responsibilities (wife, kids, house, etc.). Also, you'll likely need another degree on top of it (that you may have to pay for). It's great you enjoy psych...make it a hobby, not a career. I enjoy plays/acting, but I'm not crazy enough to be an actor. You need a lot of skills to be your own boss and make a decent salary (usually learned by working for someone else for a number of …
/r/seduction24/11/21 03:57 PM
0

it's good advice lol. Money doesn't grow on trees, if I may be so Dad-like. It's a lot different when you have to pay for everything yourself out of pocket. You really feel the impact of a lower/higher salary. Money gives you options, which leads to freedom. All work sucks to some degree (that's why they pay you for it) so find a high-paying job that you have some interest in or develop some interest in it.
/r/seduction24/11/21 03:46 PM
3

I know this thread is about something else and I'm sure you've probably heard this, but psych undergrad doesn't lead to a high-paying job and you don't want to be forced to get the PhD (which is just more money and time and doubly not financially worth it except for a few select fields(not psych). Go get a degree that leads to a tangible high-paying job after undergrad...it's literally not financially worth it to just "get a degree". I would suggest CS, engineering, accounting, etc. You can stil…
/r/seduction24/11/21 03:37 PM
1

pretty obvious, but you explain it well. Learn to take the hint. Silence is a response.
/r/seduction24/11/21 06:57 AM
6

It's human nature to have your cake and eat it too. Not really specific to women. Women just are in a position to do this due to having a vagina (automatic dating options). I'm not saying it's right either. As a guy, don't be the sucker/beta bux when she hits the wall.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/11/21 04:23 PM
1

just want to say, great question and great answers on this thread.
/r/seduction11/11/21 01:16 AM
18

It's a built-in biological/psychological response to feel bad when socially rejected (lone humans generally died in hunter-gatherer days). All the logic in the world won't fix that. You just have to get rejected like 100 times in a row and you become more numb to it.
/r/seduction11/11/21 12:43 AM
71

again and again, it comes down to looking for consistent reciprocation. Either she consistently responds positively to your advances or she doesn't and you move on.
/r/seduction05/11/21 03:46 AM
8

all these "what does this mean" type posts can pretty easily be summed up as if she doesn't reciprocate your actions, she's not interested. She's not interested in committing to you. Move on and date other women - she's nothing more than a lay now. I would suggest you let her bring up commitment next time. It often takes women a bit longer to develop feelings. Also, in general men should be the gatekeeper of commitment and women should be the gatekeeper of sex. It's too unbalanced a relationship…
/r/seduction02/11/21 03:05 AM
1

You need to ask her to check her schedule for specific times that are good for her. If she's interested she'll give specific times she is available. If she keeps it vague (ie "maybe tuesday"), she's not that interested and you're likely a backup plan. Don't play her game of constantly chasing her to nail down a time. It signals low value. It's the same idea of scheduling a business meeting. You ask for times they are available. You don't play the stupid game of asking for one time and then her s…
/r/seduction01/11/21 01:29 AM
1

Damn dude, low expectations. You could probably go ask some relatively unattractive woman out and have one in a week lol. Women's entitlement tends to go down after they age out of their prime attraction years (18-35).
/r/seduction30/10/21 10:48 PM
3

Girls often do their own shit-tests to see how clingy you are. Don't fall for it. Seriously, just let her move on. Don't chase. It doesn't matter how "into you" she was at one encounter. You still need to consistently see reciprocation from her. This hot/cold push/pull type thing is a good filter for girls you DO NOT want to deal with. Reeks of insecurity/anxious-attachment issues.
/r/seduction27/10/21 06:44 AM
44

This advice seems very basic that 99% of people already know by the time they graduate high school (or at the very latest, college). If it were that easy, everyone would get a "sexfriend". It might as well be 1) be attractive 2) don't be unattractive.
/r/seduction25/10/21 08:44 PM
1

the norm? certainly not. But I'm sure some have.
/r/seduction19/10/21 03:55 PM
1

You really don't believe anyone has slept with tons of attractive women (and not paid escorts)? I'm sure there are some men out there.
/r/seduction19/10/21 02:50 PM
1

or 3) they're very physically attractive or 4) confident/socially engaging or, to a lesser degree 5) rich (although I don't think it's exactly the money itself, but maybe the cool pad you bring her back to and your confidence in situations) or 6) they lie a lot to women
/r/seduction19/10/21 04:44 AM
1

you don't want to date someone who has you on eggshells 24/7. The idea is just be yourself (although your best self) up front and if she leaves she leaves. It's not going to work out with you pretending and fearing her judgement.
/r/seduction19/10/21 04:39 AM
2

I think a lot of misogyny has to do with being envious over how easy/fun/exciting a girl's life is when she's young and hot. But for a guy to have that same life, he would have to be top X%. And women still complain about absolutely everything and act super entitled and play 1000 mind games. "But the wall". It's really a male loser's only hope. The focus should really be living your own best life, not sticking it the other gender. The world is not fair and envy will consume you unless you can tu…
/r/seduction18/08/21 10:53 PM
3

Self improvement is great, but it's important to realize that you're still a catch no matter what or you can lose that confidence/positive attitude. Being too harsh on yourself does more harm than good. Excellent post BTW. It's really important to use the info provided here correctly. Life is unfair (you may be short, bald, prone to put on weight, prone to depression, etc.) and women's love is highly conditional, but don't dwell on it and use the info to improve. Look for reciprocation from a pr…
/r/TheRedPill15/08/21 02:49 PM
3

You're playing into the women's frame. You need to show your sexual intention early and escalate. You may risk some potential "friendships", but do you really want an unrequited relationship that's going to eat you alive all so she can get more attention? No. Now, this doesn't mean you can't be friends with girls who you do not find attractive.
/r/seduction08/08/21 01:37 PM
5

There aren't many girls I don't find attractive that I want to spend time on when actually trying to find a partner takes up so much time for most guys and is a much higher priority. To be honest, I think befriending women is only advisable as a guy if you happen across a girl who shares the same interests that you are not attracted to or you are already in a relationship. I wouldn't go out of my way to find this person. Also, as other people have mentioned, it's a really bad idea to try to befr…
/r/seduction30/07/21 02:39 PM
3

personally, the Colombian women I've met in the US have all been really aggressive, offputting, and fat. But just an anecdote. I seriously doubt given the same economic options as American women that Colombian women (or women from whatever poorer country) would behave differently. Colombian women just have fewer economic options/more competition. As soon as you bring that Colombian woman over to the US, she'll turn into an American woman.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/21 12:56 PM
-4

Yea, and you'll be a weakling that women will not be attracted to compared to the competition. Walking/light exercise is good for general health - no doctor will deny it. However, it won't make you look great. On the other hand, weightlifting/HIIT every day is a bit too much. Your body needs a day or two in between to rest. Diet is very important. No doubt.
/r/seduction26/07/21 05:10 PM
12

Not sure your age, but maybe go for slightly older, more mature women. 18-23 hot girls basically have free reign. And you can just treat the 18-23's as good sex and don't get attached like they do to you now.
/r/TheRedPill26/07/21 01:58 PM
1

no, the pool is pretty large. Perhaps the pool that want to marry you right now is not large. Only you can change that. Also, in order to realize the pool size, you have to hit on a ton of women, which you probably haven't done. Practice makes perfect. But it's much easier to complain on the internet than to hit on women and face rejection in real life.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/21 10:17 PM
1

I think it is vastly more useful to slice and dice than to just state the average in this case. The variance is extremely high based on demographics/income/education. One might even call merely reporting the average to be highly misleading because the variance is so high. The average, in this case, is useful on a population level, not an individual level.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/21 09:57 PM
1

I understand your point, but it doesn't negate the fact that you have a lot more wiggle room in a marriage vs any old relationship. Sure, if it gets bad enough, she'll divorce you, but without financial incentive to do so, she'll definitely think twice and your relationship can hopefully grow.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/21 09:54 PM
0

I think your stats are highly suspect. Once you have higher education and start earning a decent amount, the rate of divorce goes down drastically. But I do agree that the more partners a person has leads to a higher risk for divorce and women do initiate about 70-80% of divorces. That 50% divorce figure is only about 20% for college educated middle class people. But to your point, I wouldn't be surprised if it was rising due to hookup culture.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/21 01:26 AM
19

ha, that is exactly how the media would present this fact.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/21 01:13 AM
1

fewer laws to protect you when you split. Marriage actually benefits those who split vs those who cohabitated for a long time. Also, just like marriage, you lose your leverage to walk away easily since you live together.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/21 10:50 PM
16

While it is possible to just live separately and have a long-term girlfriend, often those relationships fail because it is easy to exit. Unfortunately human psychology is based on conserving energy and doing the least effort thing. Marriage is a stronger bond that is harder to break. Life is hard and most people need someone they can count on when the rain starts to fall, especially after their parents/primary caregiver pass away. As long as you don't involve kids and you marry someone about you…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/21 10:29 PM
6

exactly, ball is in her court. It's her turn to make the plan, not you. If she was really interested, she would offer an alternative day/time/place/etc that's not horribly inconvenient to you. There's so little reciprocation when she doesn't really like you. You just need to recognize it and move on, but doesn't hurt to leave the door open.
/r/seduction13/07/21 09:33 PM
3

the worst is when they say no I don't like that but then don't offer any alternatives. So lazy. Just take it as a signal to move on.
/r/seduction13/07/21 09:30 PM
6

escalate within a few messages...hard to put a firm number but after a few good exchanges, you should ask her out. Don't waste your time on feeding her ego.
/r/seduction13/07/21 09:29 PM
5

if it isn't a firm yes, it's a no. Also, actions matter more than words.
/r/seduction13/07/21 09:27 PM
1

The key is realizing that they're just self-interested human beings who you want to have sex with. You absolutely should not be sold after 1-2 dates or something. If they're not reciprocating, move on. Also, you've likely barely scratched the surface on whether they're right for you and most likely haven't had the important conversations (want kids, looking for marriage/short-term/etc., planning to buy a home/live in same area or moving soon, travel a lot for job, work erratic/long hours, long-t…
/r/seduction10/07/21 11:09 PM
1

yes, it's like only the really ugly girls generally approach because they have to in order to get any attention from men. No one approaches unless they have to is the general rule (for girls or guys). Guys generally have to. Ugly girls generally have to. EDIT: The key is noting that this is merely an observation, not a statement about what "should" happen or "can" happen. A person can absolutely buck the trend to her advantage and nab the guy of her dreams without being ugly. Just because you ap…
/r/seduction10/07/21 11:07 PM
3

There's no need to "appear". You should not be sold when you realize the truth that she's just another self-interested human being that you happen to want to have sex with. If she isn't reciprocating your actions, you move on. It's really that simple. Ask yourself, "would someone who really likes me do this?". Generally if you have to ask the answer is no. i.e.) not responding to you in a timely manner, constantly postponing dates, seeing other guys, etc. Watch her actions, not her words.
/r/seduction27/06/21 03:10 PM
13

I think the old rule (a joke with a lot of truth behind it) for number of sex partners is take any number a woman says and multiple by 3, but divide by 3 for a guy.
/r/seduction25/06/21 04:46 PM
3

bingo! And to add to that, women lose the ability to pair bond with too many partners. Studies show divorce rates increase with something like 10 or more sexual partners before marriage and women initiate ~70-80% of divorces. And let's not ignore the fact that they're going to be trying to take the best parts of their previous partners and amalgamate them into some super human that no one they could attract could possibly live up to, but they'll constantly compare you to this image.
/r/seduction25/06/21 04:37 PM
0

There's no code. It's just women giving terrible, self-serving advice. Ask away if you aren't creepy (re: if you are good looking and socially calibrated). It literally applies to almost any public space.
/r/seduction23/06/21 07:08 PM
3

back to polygyny.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/06/21 11:25 PM
7

ehh, if a woman wants to date many other guys at the same time, I'd probably not bother. I don't want to be applicant #12 and don't know many men who would as well. Also, women make their own money generally and I'm not their wallet.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/06/21 11:18 PM
27

"Just because there's a goalie doesn't mean you can't score." is another classic response to "I have a boyfriend".
/r/TheRedPill29/05/21 02:06 PM
23

Good write up, will avoid. As someone who is physically average, seems like not so great a place.
/r/TheRedPill20/05/21 05:42 PM
148

Some people are actually busy, but yes, if they want to see you they will offer an alternative time(s) they are available.
/r/seduction02/05/21 03:39 PM
3

She wants a circus performer who always has a witty/charismatic line and can carry on an interesting conversation to her. Another "standard" that women add to their ever increasingly long list. You could know everything about a certain topic, but if she's not into it, it doesn't count. And let's not forget the underlying fact that as men get more physically attractive, the other standards get less and less relevant. In other words, ugly dude better be super charismatic (and exceed the thousand o…
/r/seduction28/04/21 05:04 PM
1

It's a rude thing to do and it's natural to be offended. But in the back of your mind, you have to think "good riddance - she filtered herself out."
/r/seduction20/04/21 04:55 AM
6

mine do too, but their heart is in the right place. They just don't want me to be lonely and I understand in their time that marriage was the thing to do. Women didn't have great jobs so they were economically dependent on men. I try to help them understand how things have changed. Also, they really like bragging to their coworkers/friends/etc, but I try to ignore that part as it's not really important to me/my life. I have to actually live the life.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/21 12:07 AM
1

I embrace it a bit too much now and am basically looking for reasons that she shows little reciprocation to reject her. I have to remind myself that as a man, you're expected to put in a bit more effort than her the first few dates (due to supply/demand of dating markets) and only after that you need to look for more reciprocation.
/r/seduction10/04/21 10:06 PM
0

got it, you like rich guys.
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:33 PM
2

agreed, but it's still good to know what they like in certain cases. Beyond basic cleanliness, a lot of these things really just boil down to $$$. Got it, women like dating rich guys with fancy homes. And I like dating supermodels lol.
/r/seduction10/04/21 09:30 PM
7

you're right, but you're likely being downvoted because of where and the way you said it. Own-Salad1974 was looking for empathy, not a hard, realistic look at the dating market.
/r/seduction10/04/21 12:10 PM
4

all of these are human nature. This reads like a Barnum strip ("Oh my, all of these things apply to me!", while not realizing they apply to most people). I wouldn't get too worked up over it.
/r/seduction06/04/21 05:46 PM
1

exactly. People want what they don't have (or perceive they don't have).
/r/seduction30/03/21 02:38 PM
8

no time for this nonsense. Maybe when I was in college, no job, etc. Shit-tests are a hard pass for me now.
/r/seduction29/03/21 03:43 PM
5

you do get that the quality of man they can attract goes down as they age, right? They're only attracted to the top men (in general). So sure they can get some action whenever from a low-quality guy, but it's very unlikely to be fulfilling to them. They more look for meaningful connections from top-quality guys and are unlikely to find it because those men are all looking for the younger women.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/21 03:19 PM
5

I'm very suspicious of obvious advice that is hard to put into practice - reminds me of one of those self-help guru people trying to sell something. Like saying "take the lead" is great even with the examples, but doing it is a totally different thing that requires a lot of practice. The most successful self-help gurus give advice that is easy to put in practice and works, not just stating end-goals of years of practice.
/r/seduction24/03/21 12:13 AM
22

realize that all people (hot girls included) are naturally self-interested (the natural tendency is to take advantage of and take for granted others efforts). After experiencing more dating/relationships, you'll just naturally get it why people are a bit hesitant about getting too invested too quickly. It changes your perspective from mainly caring about their looks to caring way more about their values/personality/habits/how they treat you. You realize there is no "the one" and if a girl isn't …
/r/seduction23/03/21 11:34 AM
1

I have nothing to prove on the internet. I never claimed I cracked the code. I will say, however, that just because something gets a lot of upvotes doesn't necessarily mean it's correct, it just means it's popular. Maybe your post helped some 18 year old who doesn't know which way is up, but it's fairly condescending to the rest of us. Maybe this material is more suited for like a "basics" type label, rather than overglorifying the same over-repeated advice.
/r/seduction16/03/21 01:30 PM
0

Arrogant post. Everyone with half a brain knows you need to work with what you got. But ignoring genetic differences like it's not going to be 10x easier for someone who is naturally good looking and then lecturing people about the power of consistent effort like you're some genius who cracked the code is laughably condescending.
/r/seduction16/03/21 12:58 PM
1

You have a bad attitude in general, but you're 100% right. You can be a terrible person and still get consistently laid. The better your genetics, the easier it is for you to get/maintain physical attractiveness. The less effort you need to put in and then you can post mindnumbingly arrogant/condescending posts like OP's. But you just have to work with what you got. Focus on the things you can change (like your attitude) to the degree you can change them. It's not particularly uplifting, but it'…
/r/seduction16/03/21 12:50 PM
5

To make an analogy, the fat American is not going to get sympathy from the starving African. It's much easier to winnow down options than to not get much at all unless you get into that top ~20%. Also, you're overusing the term sexism to the point of meaninglessness and straw-manning my argument. It's a typical tactic of online social justice warriors in some illogical attempt to gain the moral high ground. I didn't say everything was easier for women. I said dating was easier for most women und…
/r/seduction15/03/21 11:02 AM
77

you're dating guys out of your league. Please. You really think there aren't a ton of guys looking to find a nice, young, in-shape girl? Dating is so imbalanced favoring women it's honestly hilarious hearing women complain when they only look at the top 20% (or so) guys. You're literally just past the most attractive age in your life. You have to be kidding me. No one believes your nonsense. To all the women (under 35, without kids, etc.) complaining, I have the tiniest violin playing for you. D…
/r/seduction14/03/21 07:40 PM
6

As a non-super attractive guy? Yes, you'll have to put out more effort in dating. That's how it works. But I wouldn't give up entirely. Just know your worth and move onto the next if a particular girl isn't reciprocating. To all the women (under 35, without kids, etc.) complaining, I have the tiniest violin playing for you. Dating is 10x easier for you than for the average guy. Get in shape, develop a feminine personality, lower your unrealistic superficial expectations (height, muscles, wealth,…
/r/seduction14/03/21 07:22 PM
1

haha dating (or really any market). It's all just people trying to get the best they can. No one will look at themselves realistically. Not one cares remotely about what they actually offer. It's just women who want the world with little to offer...typically obese, selfish, terrible personality. And the ones who are remotely (and I do stress remotely) attractive know it and are only looking for 8-10's and have the audacity to complain. And even the ones who are legit gorgeous have terrible perso…
/r/seduction14/03/21 06:52 PM
1

"okay, your loss" said very unemotionally.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/21 05:34 PM
70

A much more healthy attitude than this hustle porn crap is to have goals but set limits on your working hours. Everyone needs time to recover. For sure, income inequality is a big issue. The pendulum is swinging the other way...taxes are rising on the rich, etc.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/21 11:13 AM
1

you will weaken your leverage. It absolutely does hurt, but it depends what you're after. If you ideally would like to remain at your current company but with a higher salary, then you might hear what they have to say. But most would advise you not take this path because they can do nasty things to you if you decide to stay (and take their counteroffer should they give one) like replace you in 3 months after they hire someone cheaper. However, if you just want a higher salary (and both your curr…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/21 09:29 PM
1

again, better to just quit than try to leverage a large company. They will ask to try to counter if they really need you. Normally, they can replace you in an instant. Might they lose some productivity for a few months...sure, but it's not a big deal to them in most cases.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/21 08:03 PM
1

The effort you'll spend trying to get a raise is much better spent trying to get a better job in my experience. No one just gives you more money. They'll likely come back with something like: "to get to the next level, you need to do x, y, z."
/r/TheRedPill05/03/21 07:57 PM
3

You don't threaten to quit. Fortune 500 company will replace you in 2 seconds. Just build your skills and find another job paying more and give your 2 weeks notice. If they want you, they'll match/beat the offer, but 90% of the time, they don't care and will just replace you. And even if they do match, do you really want to work somewhere that underpaid/undervalued you for so long? They're tacitly admitting they were underpaying you by matching. Better to leave to the company that does value you…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/21 07:51 PM
1

1-6. Everyone with a brain knows this. goals, money, workout, fashion, passion/hobbies, etc. 7 - okay. Better tips online as to how to actually do this, but not terrible in that you get the general idea here. Don't get stuck on comparing yourself to the end goal - focus on the process and build up in small, consistent steps. 8 - Good advice - it does work. But saying you're not going to brag is itself a humblebrag. Just leave it out next time and you can actually be different from the tons of br…
/r/seduction26/02/21 02:00 AM
2

happens when you're older and can see through the testosterone fog. Women have to actually be compatible (same values, not necessarily same interests although some overlap is good) and treat you well, not just be hot.
/r/seduction22/02/21 03:58 PM
4

right and then the second part about that is not only don't continue to pursue them without reciprocation, but also if they come back to you (ie after it didn't work out with guy #1) don't respond. You deserve to be someone's first, not their backup option that they can toy with on a whim.
/r/seduction22/02/21 03:55 PM
2

I thought it was a good post about sample size and statistics, but your point is taken that most men don't have the time/opportunity to date whatever a representative sample of women is.
/r/seduction21/02/21 09:58 PM
1

yes, exactly. Many girls will just use you as validation and move on. You have to attract her to you - you've got a better shot by developing some social status in that arena.
/r/seduction09/02/21 12:39 PM
2

That is exactly the attitude you need to have as a guy - just go for it. But also, social awareness matters. If she's headphones in or in the middle of a set, probably would not want to. Don't read too much into the super socially anxious women's responses on reddit - you'll get the wrong idea.
/r/seduction09/02/21 12:32 PM
2

why? I wouldn't care TBH. It's not like they employ me and there's very little chance of actually going at the same time. Even if we did, it's easy enough to ignore people at the gym.
/r/seduction09/02/21 12:28 PM
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Reciprocation - initiate positive conversations, compliments, physical touch, cooking, gifts, dates, sex, etc. Everyone likes to be appreciated and validated, not just women. The worst is giving into a black hole like you know the person will never return the amount of effort you put in, but continues to take advantage of you. Easy next. As to specifics of the perfect date, it depends on the man. I tend to be more of an activity-based date person. Find something he likes that you both can enjoy.…
/r/seduction08/02/21 12:45 PM
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Anyone with self-respect should only like people who like them back (aka reciprocate). It shouldn't take a whole bunch of convincing. To be honest, it should be easy between you two and if it's not, well she's probably not right for you.
/r/seduction04/02/21 01:31 AM
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yea, it's mostly a superficial reason (looks usually) if they reject you early TBH. Even so, that's not a great feeling. But I do intellectually understand that it doesn't really matter at the end of the day and it's a numbers game.
/r/seduction26/01/21 01:32 PM
3

I wouldn't hold yourself so low. Look for women in a more genuine context where they can learn about who you are rather than just what you look like such as a shared reoccurring activity with the same people. If you do go to the bar (which I would not suggest for finding a girl unless you are good-looking), I would avoid going with very good-looking people (who will inevitably hook up with the hottest girls there) or at least focus on having fun rather than hooking up/finding a partner. You have…
/r/seduction15/01/21 03:53 AM
3

It's just not true. this is something women say (virtue signaling perhaps), but doesn't matter that much in reality to the majority of women. You can be a nasty, arrogant SOB, but as long as you're tall, physically attractive, rich, famous, powerful, whatever other superficial thing the woman likes, it doesn't matter. Women love to date douchebags and then complain about them - the key is they're superficially attractive douchebags. The case in point is someone created a fake tinder profile with…
/r/seduction08/01/21 12:41 AM
2

get out of here with that nonsense. Women make it so easy for guys they find physically attractive and make other men they find less physically attractive jump through 100 hoops and disqualify them for the tiniest thing. You get 10 chances as a physically attractive guy but say one wrong thing as an unattractive guy and you're out.
/r/seduction03/01/21 05:00 AM
4

well, it is a biological urge to reproduce and form intimate connections with your desired sex. So that's why people do it or logically guys wouldn't even bother 99% of the time. But eventually getting rejected/ignored/etc enough times leads you to stop trying. This is not me, but I get why people feel this as most guys have to go through an insane amount of rejection and it's considerably more the less physically attractive you are...almost exponentially.
/r/seduction03/01/21 04:51 AM
2

If you understand the concept, you can infer the answer on specific examples. There are like 10 posts a day here about if your effort is not returned, move on. As a guy, you put in a little effort and ask for some in return. If it's not returned you move on. If it is you keep escalating iteratively. Even if you do get someone who's really shy (or whatever exception), do you want to deal with someone where you will have to make the first move 99% of the time? I certainly don't, even as a guy. It'…
/r/seduction22/12/20 01:29 AM
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Yes, this is true - I wouldn't stay friends with a girl I liked romantically who didn't like me back romantically. But that doesn't mean there aren't some women you can't just be friends with. It doesn't have to only be about finding a partner 24/7. Expand your social circle. You'll meet people through female friends, possibly even your future wife. And I agree, many women make terrible friends to guys (expect to be treated like we're dating without the sex), but there are some who are worth it …
/r/seduction09/12/20 11:53 AM
1

right so clubs are not for you. You can use them to practice hitting on women (with an extremely high chance of going home alone and disappointed and even success is just sloppy sex with someone who likely won't even remember your name), but that's about it unless a) you actually start enjoying clubs or b) you get a few friends who also like clubbing
/r/seduction08/12/20 03:34 PM
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the reality is you need to add value to their night instead of expecting them to add value to yours. You need to make the first move generally as the guy. You could be the most interesting person in the world, but if you don't open, the girls won't know it. Another method is to have a group of friends and have a lot of fun and wait for the girls to come to you, but then again you'd actually have to enjoy clubs, which for most people requires a lot of alcohol. Most people hate clubs BTW. Unless y…
/r/seduction08/12/20 07:07 AM
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I agree the guy can easily avoid this by being direct, but let's not place the entire blame on the guy (as is so common). Women frequently lead men on for attention/validation and to develop backup plans if their current relationship fails.
/r/seduction11/08/20 05:11 PM
9

No, it'a valley girl accent. I assure you most highly educated people can talk on and off professionally and casually like a light switch whenever it serves them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/08/20 07:00 PM
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Yes, they actively try to put it out of their mind, but most are aware the party/special treatment doesn't last forever. I knew a coworker who celebrated her 29th birthday 4 years in a row.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/20 05:43 PM
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When she goes and flirts with another guy at a party, you beeline to the hottest woman you can find and talk to her. Your girl will come to you lol.
/r/seduction28/07/20 12:59 AM
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your comments. Blocked.
/r/seduction26/07/20 07:21 AM
-2

It is okay though to approach people in public. It's called public for a reason. YOU may not feel okay, but not everyone is exactly like you. Also, you make it out like he's approaching women alone in the middle of a dark alley. No, it's in a public well-lit area during daytime with other people around. If YOU cannot handle that, it is YOUR problem being in public.
/r/seduction26/07/20 07:16 AM
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you are in public and have to deal with the public. It is fine for anyone to approach you, regardless of whether you personally like it or not. You can tell them to go away though if you don't like it. It seems like you have some anxiety issues yourself, but not everyone does and not everyone is so afraid.
/r/seduction26/07/20 07:11 AM
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I agree that it is not the best approach for finding a girlfriend (generally friends of friends or hobbies or something is much better and less of a waste of time), but it is an actual thing to do exposure therapy if he has serious anxiety issues approaching women. It depends on your goals. There's nothing inherently wrong with approaching women in public - it's just not a high-probability option because you generally cannot get a lot of time with them unless you are very attractive.
/r/seduction26/07/20 06:58 AM
0

The trash took itself out. I mean if you dumped this on them early in the relationship I can understand them not wanting to be your therapist, but if you were committed and then opened up about it, the women weren't worth it.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/20 02:42 PM
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this is just two people using each other. This is a very shallow relationship. It's probably how most flings start but they should progress if you want a better, stronger connection. A real relationship should be based primarily on how you treat each other, not what you do for each other. I believe Mark Manson or some other guru addresses this.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/20 02:35 PM
0

Bingo. Why the hell should only men do this? Women's looks fade after around 35. The typical woman basically wants to trade sex for men's money (security/marriage).
/r/seduction18/07/20 09:54 PM
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Obviously protect your finances and be willing to walk away if she treats you badly. That's like rule #1 when dating women. Split check, no marriage, etc. They should like you for something other than money/security. I guarantee most women have gone to some super attractive dude's house on a hookup and fucked his brains out for nothing. If you're not that guy to them, it's highly inadvisable to get into a long-term relationship with them. It's psychologically proven that women are on average mor…
/r/seduction16/07/20 06:11 PM
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It's so easy for 20-something girls to be non-needy because they have tons of options and they're like oh why aren't most men (except for the very attractive) this way, they must be losers. Such a joke how little they care to understand. But becoming intrinsically non-needy usually comes with age. At some point, you really don't give a fuck if some girl (or really almost anyone TBH) likes you or not, if they leave or not. It's not something you can control for the most part (beyond the stuff you…
/r/seduction15/07/20 02:20 AM
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Is this 50 Shades of Gray, but for guys?
/r/TheRedPill14/07/20 08:59 PM
7

TBH I did do some of them and some routines do work, but it is hard to remember them. The conversation is very mechanical to you on the inside (you're being engaging on the outside), but interesting to them. It's a weird feeling like looking at yourself from the outside.
/r/seduction13/07/20 04:15 AM
3

I think sharing weaknesses strategically with women can make you just the right amount of vulnerable to be attractive. Minor things and such. Major issues like childhood abuse go to a therapist.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/07/20 12:36 PM
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i've been with enough women and had enough female friends to realize there is no right woman. there is just degrees of what kind of weakness they'll accept. Sure, this is what I mean. I don't believe in unicorns or "the one". She'll be right for your particular weakness.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/07/20 12:02 PM
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sounds like not a good woman to be with. The right woman would care and help you. If she leaves when times are tough (and yet temporary), she clearly is not worth much.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/07/20 11:34 AM
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uggh so true. Men shouldn't go around chasing women at parties and competing for their attention - low value move. Post up in a popular space where people pass by/congregate and start talking loudly/energetically to everyone who passes by, laughing and having a good time and they'll come to you. Now you are in a position of power to win over a girl. That said, sometimes you have to go over to get a particularly popular/hot girl's attention, but again, approach the group, not just her. Then separ…
/r/seduction09/07/20 02:48 AM
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Good guide. I knew OLD was a marketing gimmick. Basically lose fat, gain muscle, get a cool haircut, dress edgier, take good sexy photos similar to male models with decent photo editing. How are you maintaining your muscle during Covid? Body weight exercises only take me so far. I think results will still vary if you're not a 6'+ tall white guy. But these are still good tips to improve it a bit.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/20 04:14 PM
1

The comment should be so well-phrased as to not have anyone be digging through your comment history, but I agree it's a bitchy move for people with no life.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/20 04:24 AM
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ehh, if you phrase it right it'll get upvoted or at worst zeroed. Just remove all TRP terminology and don't be so dramatic/judgmental. Lead them to it - don't force it down.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/20 08:58 PM
1

I don't think it's a particularly feasible diet for most people, no offense. I wouldn't want to eat soup, oatmeal and popcorn all day. You can regain weight on literally any diet once you stop doing it. Exactly, which is why this is not a feasible long-term diet. Any sort of drastic diet usually doesn't work long-term.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/20 05:25 PM
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Some finer points about dieting you may not have considered (but really should): That's an interesting diet, but it's so expensive to follow. Trying to fill up on vegetables and fruit day after day will cost an arm and a leg (at least where I live) and goes bad quite quickly - it's a similar problem to the juicing diet. Also, I found lean protein to be the most helpful in satiating hunger for the fewest calories possible and lowest price, somewhat contradicting your advice. To be clear I don't d…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/20 04:53 PM
1

I think I was thinking a bit too cut and dry with the pro/con style thinking. The reality is very hazy and highly dependent on the particular people we are talking about. Given what I've read, cohabitating is safer and usually the better option if you don't plan to have kids. Non-financially, there is no guarantee that she continues to treat you the way she treated you as a girlfriend, find you attractive, and is willing to work on the relationship and keep herself attractive. People are natural…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/20 04:42 PM
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People are so damn petty and unwilling to reexamine things/confront their mistakes. I would say behave differently but don't flaunt it/talk much about it is more applicable. After all, how are you going to get better results if you do the same stupid things everyone else is doing. Semantics aside, I get that the intent of the law is to not make waves and make people confront their unexamined ideas and poor choices since they'll oftentimes take it out on you.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/20 01:40 AM
1

Sure, social status is always debatable, but it's still something to be married even today. The financial benefits are huge - this is a fact. 20+ years of sharing living expenses leaves you insanely better off, regardless if the tax benefits are minimal in some cases. It's something like married people have 3-4x the wealth of single people adjusting for income/age/etc. I looked it up. Also, if one partner temporarily becomes unemployed, the other can support them while they look for a job. Even …
/r/TheRedPill11/06/20 06:44 PM
1

I've already addressed the apparent contradiction of why I should marry despite most people losing attraction over time and was noting ways to protect myself if it should fail afterwards. But to recap and add a few in no particular order... *social benefits - status as being married. People (and employers) generally see you as more responsible, regardless of whether it is actually true. *tax/financial benefits to build wealth *certain legal rights in case the person is in the hospital or incapac…
/r/TheRedPill09/06/20 04:46 AM
1

You can't negotiate desire, and that is ultimately what men are hoping happens when they get married. I understand that people generally lose attraction over time as they grow and marriage won't change that, but in the meantime you can reap the gains and if it becomes so bad a divorce is necessary, statistically she gets one. I think this form of marriage where you reap the financial and social benefits for often a decently long time, but still can (somewhat) safely eject/be ejected is the moder…
/r/TheRedPill09/06/20 01:40 AM
1

Your only leverage in life is your ability to fuck off, and its ultimately the only thing people respect when negotiating anything. point taken - that's why no kids. You still have the ability to leave through divorce without being financially and emotionally destroyed. Yet you still get the other financial and social benefits. I understand it limits your sexual freedom, but not as much as you think. I could totally see some stud who has sex with a different woman all the time not getting marrie…
/r/TheRedPill08/06/20 12:38 PM
2

why would not advise any man marry? I just outlined some of the major benefits. What are the drawbacks and why do they outweigh the benefits in your mind? And to answer your question - tax benefits, medical benefits/share their insurance, present to the world as a couple, etc. These are easy to look up. Also, having some sort of harder process to follow (divorce) to get out of a relationship makes people work harder on maintaining their relationship and not just giving up the second something be…
/r/TheRedPill07/06/20 03:38 PM
2

absolutely. It's human nature. Women just have more opportunity on average.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/20 03:33 AM
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yes, they were traditionally married, but now they're in open relationships. It's really the kids that are the nail in the coffin, emotionally and financially speaking. Without that, the guys would just divorce the women.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/20 03:30 AM
1

Why not just marry and DINK (Dual Income No Kids)? I mean if you divorce at some point, it's not the end of the world with no kids, assuming she makes around the same as you. Let's be honest, most non-married guys are not getting sex and female compassion as often as married guys. Plus the financial benefits of sharing living expenses. Seems like a win, even if it eventually turns into more of a business partnership than a marriage.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/20 03:25 AM
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I get your point about not acting desperate, but you still have to put yourself out there (which you do not describe). You already came to the party with a date. You have no reason to try anything at the party with some random girl (weird as fuck with a high schooler BTW, are you a sexual predator?). You already put yourself out there to get a date - it already happened in another location/time you haven't described.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/20 08:37 PM
1

Not quite. The maximal marginal utility of happiness per extra dollar earned is a lot higher nowadays due to inflation/cost of living rises ( and even higher still if you live in a higher cost of living area than the national average). Also, that's not really saying too much because the vast majority of people make under this amount. It's per person, not per household.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/20 11:13 PM
1

I'll be honest, I had feelings like that too, but I've been more or less able to let them go. In the end AWALT means that every single woman on this planet is going to behave like that if the right guy comes along. No matter the consequences. Women aren't demons, they just are what they are. No point in hating nature, it's just the way it is. no, I think it's healthy to react negatively to someone doing something awful to you like cheating on you. People may have the natural instinct and opportu…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/20 02:21 PM
5

well there's always someone smarter than you so why be a jackass about it if someone probably will shut you down immediately. That said, there's no reason to be ashamed of your intelligence either.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/05/20 09:58 PM
1

Sure, education is an investment - get a reasonable costing in-state degree in a high-paying, in-demand field that you can tolerate and you'll do well. A primary residence is really not an investment, but a mortgage is often needed to afford a home. A car is a depreciating asset so I would really limit your debt on a car as much as possible (as long as the car is safe and mechanically sound).
/r/TheRedPill27/04/20 08:44 PM
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well they just want validation. In my experience women in online dating classfiy you into three tiers. Low- not talking/matching with you, Medium - match and chat but mainly looking for validation, and High - actually meet you. Most of the time you're a low or medium. Don't give them the power to waste your time...in a few messages, establish you're not a serial killer, funny, and have genuine interest in them, and then ask them out. I would go with a public place, but I guess it depends what ki…
/r/seduction27/04/20 08:00 PM
1

Yes, but I wouldn't fixate on it. Just be reasonable about your chances.
/r/seduction22/04/20 11:45 AM
2

I do see the value in the post as sort of a PSA, but it's pretty obvious to most people. In other news, water is wet.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/20 03:46 PM
1

Men are human doings. Women are physical objects. The trouble is it's tougher to keep doing competitive stuff (earn money, gain status, be confident, etc.) and much more ephemeral rather than just maintaining your looks (and oh btw men also have to maintain their looks). Don't get me wrong, women do provide emotional support and take more care of the kids/house so it's not like they do nothing but they're not valued on competitive work. And women have more options generally due to biology (few e…
/r/TheRedPill16/04/20 12:08 PM
1

ah the old ad hominem "you sound bitter" attack. I'm not bitter - just pointing out the flaw in your plan. It should be mutually beneficial, but it usually isn't unless very specific criteria are met.
/r/seduction26/03/20 02:17 PM
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Assuming the guy is able to get over the rejection and still be friends (and let's be honest most humans can't) and is still willing to put himself in the lower power position of remaining friends in order to possibly get with some of her friends: It only works if you're close to their "league" otherwise her friends say "why are you hanging around with that mere mortal?" and you get ignored the whole night from her uppity super-attractive friends...gee so much fun /s And then you have to put in …
/r/seduction26/03/20 12:41 AM
0

She says yes when you ask her out. Seriously, stop letting them waste your time if you want a relationship.
/r/seduction26/03/20 12:32 AM
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Let's explore that emotional arousal. In addition to being physically attractive, you also need to feed into their egotistical fantasy that "it just happened naturally" (despite it actually being quite difficult to plan and look natural). Secondly, there's acknowledging the fact that physical attractiveness plays a role, and then there's giving up and blaming everything on lack there of. I'm firmly in the former camp.
/r/seduction25/03/20 02:45 AM
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agree with most of this, except women care at least as much (and many studies point to more) about physical attractiveness as guys do. Let's drop the charade that they're "complicated" or whatever bullshit. They care about social acceptance/appearances (on average more than men) so everything they say is basically to make themselves look good or how they want to be seen/how they want to feel, usually not objective truth - that's why you pay attention to their actions. They're unhappy because the…
/r/seduction25/03/20 12:25 AM
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why? Everyone knows dating/sex is easier for women than for vast majority of men. Study is basically confirming water is wet. Eventually the women lose their super powers of attractiveness as they get older and if not already married to Chad (ie the top tier women) the lower tiers are forced to settle for Billy Beta Bucks since Chad won't fuck them anymore. But they don't actually like Billy and aren't happy with him because they've fucked Chad in their younger years and can never truly settle s…
/r/BlackPillScience24/03/20 12:01 AM
2

yes and no. Yes in the fact that women will flock to wildly rich men, but for all the wrong reasons. No, in the fact that you need to be considerably less wealthy to support only yourself than to support yourself, a wife (partially, most work) and children.
/r/BlackPillScience23/03/20 11:53 PM
2

Even if the overlap is small between what you like and what most girls would like, you have to expand yourself and try some of those things that girls would like. Many won't work out, but you'll likely find something you can at least mildly enjoy. Girls have been doing this for ages. There's always some girls who really don't have the necessary speed/skill to be part of my competitive (almost entirely male) soccer group, but they join anyway and are primarily there to meet guys. I will note that…
/r/seduction23/03/20 04:30 PM
5

Yep, a lot of them basically keep all their repressed negative feelings bottled up (around people that mean something to them) and then explode on the unfortunate person that comes into their path. Abusive.
/r/seduction22/03/20 03:58 PM
4

you still should go after what you want - which for most men is women. It's just doing it in a way that serves you, not them.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/20 12:20 PM
5

you're putting too much pressure on yourself. Are there some tips to help you? Sure. Do you need to strictly follow them to the tee? No - all tips are situational, and if the girl likes you she'll ignore most of the mistakes and give you the benefit of the doubt. If it doesn't work out, move on and try the next one. She has to risk her physical security being with you and maintain her looks. Not that that's a fair tradeoff in terms of dating dynamics in today's day and age in most circumstances,…
/r/seduction21/03/20 03:10 AM
1

There's lots of pretty, smart, charming girls out there. If they don't reciprocate and want to be in a relationship with you, who the hell cares about their attractiveness? I agree - don't waste your emotional energy being "friends" with someone who you really want to date.
/r/seduction09/03/20 12:07 AM
1

TIL China's average age is pretty close to the US's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_median_age Suppose my comment should say Africa, India, and Middle East.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/02/20 02:02 AM
0

The average age in Africa is in the teens, and it's pretty low in India/China as well. We have a long way to go before any of this plays out and Africa gets old. We'll just keep getting a lot of immigrants to fuel production. Western men can drop out all they want. The world won't end for a long time. If anything, it's automation that is the scariest aspect. Lots of jobs will go away. They will be replaced by fewer and vastly more complicated jobs. Good luck in that world. Predict mass riots con…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/20 01:42 AM
1

US has social security, which is 6.2% from your income and 6.2% paid by employer. You get a fixed sum each year after you retire. Annual payouts vary based on your income in your top 35 earning years and the age when you retire. You usually have to be at least in your 60's when you retire to get it though, but amount does increase for each year you stay in the workforce up until about 70. https://www.fool.com/retirement/general/2014/08/02/how-are-social-security-benefits-calculated.aspx The amou…
/r/TheRedPill24/01/20 02:33 AM
2

Absolutely agree. Do not take extra risk unless you have extra money that you are okay losing (relevant concept is 'risk capital' if anyone wants to research more). If you do not have extra money and are desperate for more money, you probably want to just dump it into an index like most others and work on getting more money to put into the market by improving your job skills/marketability or getting a second income stream where you can earn money without the potential of losing it (ie by getting…
/r/TheRedPill24/01/20 02:20 AM
3

I've experienced something like this my whole life. I'm smarter and more diligent than I look so people get really jealous/angry when I make big things happen and get better rewards than them despite being on the shorter side. It's taught me to keep my mouth shut about my own successes, and really celebrate others' successes. Also, to go out of my way and engage others to make them feel included and make me seem less arrogant. Apparently, a lot of people mistake shy for arrogant.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/19 10:07 PM
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I agree that marriage is mainly to raise kids. But what about DINK (duel income no kids)? Often ends in dead bedrooms and divorce I imagine (since it's a lot easier to divorce without kids). Husband and wife barely interact after a while since they have no kid to come together to support.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/19 11:45 AM
1

Most people in general are like this...always trying to get something better than what they can offer. It's not really a men vs women thing. It's generally not a fun thing to be single on the wrong side of the attractiveness threshold for any gender so maybe have a little compassion for someone going through a similar thing most men went through at one point.
/r/TheRedPill15/08/19 12:37 AM
2

don't go and interview/interrogate the girl with one question after the other. Convo should flow naturally, but you can use these to start conversation off or bring a new topic after you've exhausted the current topic. And making assumptions about her (even if positive) is not the best way to go for all types of girls - like most things, higher success rate the more physically attractive you are.
/r/seduction06/06/19 12:16 AM
1

You know how you get this stupid shit to stop where every married girl treats you like her dog/gay friend, you aggressively/confidently flirt back with her to quickly find out if she's married and if she is, then ask to meet her single friends. Then all of a sudden you go from asexual toy to real person with sexual desires. Also, if you get more physically attractive (weightlifting/eating right) and confident (takes practice and more than a few rejections), women won't even try to take away your…
/r/seduction24/11/18 11:08 PM
2

You've never had a friend in your college, even in your classes that you could convince to come out with you to a bar? Damn, that's pretty bad. It's not like you have to be best buddies or anything. There's a tacit understanding that you're using each other to pick up women. Worst case scenario, go out by yourself and try to join a friendly group at a local bar. They probably go to your university and you can set up meetings/get numbers to connect later.
/r/seduction20/10/18 04:10 PM
2

Yes, commuter university is tough. But the girls must go hang out somewhere at night like at a bar/club (not super familiar with Australian culture)? I guess you need to go there and work on night game (which I'm sorry to say is tougher than day game for most men). Besides, hopefully you'll get a decent job when you graduate and be able to move to a nicer city with more available women and activities/clubs.
/r/seduction20/10/18 04:02 PM
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you bring up a good point that it's not low risk - there are valid reasons unattractive guys don't just randomly approach every attractive girl - low reward %, ego hit from rejection, and social ostracism risk. The reality is that you have to go through a bunch of these awkward approaches before you are able to read IOI's better to determine who is in to you and who is not. Also, they may still be super mean to you even if you do everything right; getting less awkward and becoming more fit will …
/r/seduction20/10/18 02:37 PM
3

exception doesn't make the rule. Statistically, people do A LOT BETTER going to college (vs not), especially getting an engineering degree or other in-demand degree. You literally don't understand finances if you think college debt will not be paid off pretty quickly with an in-demand degree and go on to outearn the average tradesperson. I'm not saying go to some ultra expensive college, but state school + engineering is usually the best financial decision.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/18 01:21 AM
12

The subtler the signs, the less attractive you are. If you cross yet another threshold in physical attractiveness, many women don't even try to hide it. I recently lost 10 lbs and now hot women regularly come over and flirt with me in public. I was good looking (subtle signs) to begin with and now I'm better looking (obvious signs). No, I'm not tall, but I have good facial structure and you can see it better when I lose weight.
/r/seduction25/07/18 02:58 AM
1

you actually talk to them for a few days to get to know them before asking them out to see if they are a bit crazy...obviously there's no magic solution to know 100% if she'd do these things, but you can get a feel for a person's values/morals.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/18 10:16 AM
1

Depends how low your standards are (are you trying to date trashy girls who do this sort of stuff?) and feels like a bit of a cop out.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 10:15 PM
1

yep there's more than a kernel of truth to it. Most marriages aren't happy in the LT these days. Modern women are so unreliable and unwilling to really love you as a person rather than an object for generating income/status. All they want is more, more, more until they slowly become "unhappy" and leave. And god forbid you become a human being and reveal your own wants and needs to them...they avoid you like a leper. At the end of the day, I still want some sort of formal relationship (not marria…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 01:32 AM
1

people tend to mellow out as they get older so if the guy you're after is older than say 25, the response won't be so harsh and will likely just be a polite decline. Learning to take rejection with grace is very attractive though...literally have not met a woman who can do it, yet they expect every guy to do it with no emotional attachment lol.
/r/seduction15/05/18 03:36 AM
1

pretty much only if I think you're attractive or at least decent will I welcome the advance. But I won't hold it against you if you take the rejection well. I've been approached by fatties/uggos before I started weightlifting and they never took rejection well. Now they're too scared to approach and good riddance. Also, I think if a more attractive girl that I am looking to approach sees an unattractive girl approach me, she might get the impression she's out of my league which really annoys me.…
/r/seduction15/05/18 02:41 AM
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idk about no hope, but it'll be damn hard to find an attractive guy to give you the time of day if you're ugly, especially if you're not particularly interesting. Better work to become a millionaire, have a huge weed farm, and be super cool and smart (not just to yourself, but to the outside world). Now some unattractive loser guy, yea you'll get tons of those just by having a vagina. What counts as physically attractive: look at the latest victoria's secret super model...the closer you conform …
/r/seduction15/05/18 02:13 AM
1

coed sports are fun. Just don't pick a super competitive one and you'll likely find more girls. It's not for the reason you think. It's because they know they're usually worse than guys in athletics and don't like to get shown up (really an ego thing for most of them).
/r/seduction13/05/18 10:08 PM
3

The biggest thing I've found is that there needs to be some outlet for your vices. Yes, they're all bad in excess, but most of us can't be robots 100% of the time or else we'll go crazy. As long as you keep it in moderation and only do it occasionally, you'll be fine. But be sure to track your frequency and stick to your limits or else you can in fact fall down a deep, dark path of addiction (which the corporations would love to happen to you so they can take all your money, dignity, and humanit…
/r/TheRedPill30/04/18 02:59 AM
7

The problem is most women never really had to grow up until they get old/ugly and life smacks them in the face. They live their lives in a bubble, act like insolent children all day, and get away with it until one day, that shit don't fly. Then you hear the complaints when they realize that life is pretty damn brutal and they're about as interesting as a wet rag (if they even get to that realization).
/r/TheRedPill26/04/18 02:46 AM
1

really surprised you don't have more upvotes. Right the fuck on. It's learning to deal with your natural tendencies (most people are lazy and there's a few oddballs who are not and some of them write self-help books). I work with people who on their day off are still trying to get on a conference call while their wife is yelling at them to stop working. I'm just not wired to be a workaholic.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/18 11:26 PM
4

this post is dumb. Almost all "self-help" is pretty basic knowledge. It's actually following through on the plan long term that is hard. Any idiot can write a basic plan. Few follow through on them.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/18 11:49 AM
1

I think you might be missing prioritization. I can switch it on and off. I work really hard for stuff that benefits me a lot and phone it in on the other stuff.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/16 01:32 AM
2

I find time blocks to be annoying/distracting. I usually just get into a groove and can focus for hours. High level to do lists are good for me, especially when I prioritize what to do first, second, etc. Like to write them the night before so I can start early the next day. Super detailed lists are distracting.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/16 01:07 AM
2

being played...reread what you wrote...it just sounds unrealistic...99% of attractive single women (at least in the US) at 30 y.o. have probably fucked at least 20 guys. They present a character to you that is mostly what you want and then try to shame you into being what they want, all the while secretly being who they really are. AWALT.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/16 08:49 AM
3

Use Blue Pill/morality talk to manipulate others to contribute at their own expense, but act Red Pill/selfish. Got it. For example, anyone who calls others selfish and tries to shame them into giving (to them). 2 people have tried this on me in negotiations...called them both out for being selfish. Got a sarcastic "glad you were able to catch that one". Another good example is the "fair" trade. "I did X earlier for you so now you should do Y for me", even though Y requires much more effort than …
/r/TheRedPill26/04/16 04:15 AM
7

As with most rules governing complex human interactions, they were meant to be interpreted with discretion and human intuition, but I think it's useful to list the exceptions.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/16 12:34 AM
1

it's already happening. Primary real estate boom is coming from lower priced housing. There's a glut of high priced houses on the market that few people want/can afford to buy.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/16 05:22 PM
4

Bachelor tax already exists in a way. It's called a child tax credit...you don't get it if you don't have children. I imagine the government will just raise it a lot in the future.
/r/TheRedPill02/04/16 04:54 PM
2

This is unquestionably true for me. I can't tell you the hours I fought between jacking it and studying while in school. I still managed good grades, but I definitely could have been a superstar had this not hindered me. Now that I'm a little bit older and about to go back for my professional degree, I think I can tame the beast and own the classes.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/16 01:22 AM
8

Most young women are probably not going to wear a pant suit on tv, and there is likely heavy makeup for tv as well. All the people were probably chosen because they're reasonably good looking (lending some credibility so you can't just write them off), but nothing special because they have to be mocked as Trump supporters.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/16 03:36 AM
15

people are neither inherently good nor bad. They are selfish.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/16 07:34 PM
2

mods (like any human) want to justify their past behavior. Unfortunately, this gets in the way of reality quite often.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/16 11:54 PM
1

overspending is definitely bad for her and the people she is financially tied to, but good for the economy as a whole and you by extension.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/16 11:23 PM
2

I've made some decent close acquaintences with hobbies, but not quite friends. Soccer is a good activity because I'm pretty good. However, I got sick (they knew about it, affected my endurance) and couldn't play very well for 6 months (but continued participating to stay in shape). They started ignoring me and even making fun of me. Now I'm better and they're back to being nice. I really dislike that whole "we only like you for what you can do" deal...I don't consider these people true friends. …
/r/seduction25/01/16 04:48 AM
2

I admit this is more of a secondary issue to being interesting enough to other people to have a lot of friends, but friends are so expensive. If I had to go out to a decent bar/concert/restaurant/event every week, I'd have negative cashflow each month. Not to mention how unhealthy it is to drink alcohol frequently (that's what most men do when they go out around here). Also, the lack of quality sleep annoys the fuck out of me. I'd rather get a decent night's sleep than be in that non-REM, highly…
/r/seduction25/01/16 04:17 AM
1

you know why those men were at the top? because they saw through the bullshit without letting it get them down. No one values you for who you are (except maybe your parents), only what you can do.
/r/seduction19/12/15 07:45 AM
2

Live on 50K and invest the rest for early retirement. You probably should be living in a worse neighborhood TBH. You likely fell into the common trap of increasing your lifestyle pretty much proportionally with your income. It's hard to decrease your standard of living now but not too difficult to not increase it all that much when you get more money.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/15 03:10 AM
2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNNnxO5QRlE Do you know what I am saying?
/r/TheRedPill05/12/15 05:22 PM
2

Learn to operate successfully within corrupt systems and maybe one day you'll amass enough power to make a positive change.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/15 03:32 AM
2

when it comes to HR, never say more than necessary (and get a lawyer if it comes to that). Think of them as a bunch of screeners for possible threats to the company, including from its own employees.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/15 03:26 AM
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you suck it up, start approaching, and realize it's a numbers game. RP tactics will help, but it's still on you to get over your fears.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 10:17 AM
9

They do care about height. It's just possible to compensate in other areas.
/r/seduction27/09/15 11:34 PM
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HIIT might hurt the guy in his current state. Also, he'll be left looking flabby without weightlifting simultaneously. He's changing body composition more with this (aerobic+weightlifting) way so it will take longer. More focus should be on aerobics when you are very overweight, but you also need to weightlift 2-3x/week so you don't lose too much muscle mass. Then when he gets his weight under control (overweight but not medically obese), he can switch to HIIT + weightlifting without hurting him…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 10:21 AM
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ask for a full body pic before meeting her. If she refuses to provide it, she's likely fat. And just a heads up, if they don't have a full body pic (or at least a non-myspace angle from their thighs up) on their profile, 99% of the time they are fat. Occasionally you do find some outliers (not fat but no pic that confirms it), but they generally have skinny faces so you can usually tell. EDIT: Most women understand male sexuality...if they have a good body they'll show it off. You also want to w…
/r/seduction13/09/15 12:24 AM
1

*4. I find often these people who only want to talk about something that only they and their friends know something about are not so subtly indicating that they don't want to talk to anyone who's not familiar with the subject. People who are passionate about an obscure subject become exclusionary in a group of other people passionate about the same thing. There's only so many general questions you can ask before they get bored of explaining basic concepts to you and want to go into nerd land. *5…
/r/TheRedPill30/08/15 08:43 PM
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I think you're exaggerating quite a bit (and LA is one of the most superficial cities out there for both hetero and homo), but, yes, the standard is higher.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 05:39 PM
1

yea I won't deny it's social utility. I don't believe personally, but I understand why it exists. It does also have some drawbacks like trying to control people a little too much...there's not being an asshole (basic moral code) and then there's taking someone's fundamental personal power away from them (what happens to religion when it becomes too bureaucratic).
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 02:06 PM
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There's little nuance in your explanation. no shit it's not attractive, but that is no fucking excuse for a woman (or anyone) to behave like that. If she can't see past that time I truly cried for a legitimate reason and thinks of me as a permanently weak man, she's a heartless asshole. None of this AWALT excuses this behavior. All humans have a prefrontal cortext to control their baser instincts. If a woman cannot, I rightfully dump her for being a shitty human being. Evolution is not determina…
/r/TheRedPill24/08/15 11:20 PM
2

because like it or not, most men need a long-term relationship with a woman at some point in their life and a marriage is a way to "make it official". I don't believe it's the best way to go about it (involving the courts in a relationship), but I can at least understand why people do it.
/r/TheRedPill24/08/15 11:06 PM
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you definitely got it right...biology has a role (initial revulsion), but humans have a prefrontal cortex to overcome just our baser, older instincts. If the right social incentive structure was in place, the woman would have incentive to overcome her initial revulsion and help her man out rather than just leave for richer pastures (pun intended).
/r/TheRedPill24/08/15 10:36 PM
2

/r/Frugal_Jerk
/r/seduction18/08/15 02:16 AM
2

definitely a 1st world problem, but the answer is you do it if it makes you happy. Most people on Facebook will remove you from their newsfeed unless your posts are particularly entertaining, but they don't care about you anyway.
/r/seduction18/08/15 02:14 AM
4

Case in point: they recently installed red light cameras in my neighborhood. They will ticket you if you do not follow the letter of the law: didn't stop on the line fully before make a right on red - ticket; couldn't complete a left turn at this 4-way intersection before the light turned red because of high traffic (there's no left turn arrow) - ticket. It is actually impossible to make a left turn during rush hour without getting a $50 ticket. I need to use this major road to get to work.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/15 01:54 AM
2

I don't believe this. Sure, there are some idiots who do spend frivolously, but most are in debt from student loans, mortgage, medical bills, etc. - necessarily things for all but the rich to progress in life.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/15 10:08 PM
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yes, courts can't enforce sex and loyalty, only provision (and unequally at that).
/r/TheRedPill28/07/15 03:39 AM
1

I agree with everything you said. You need to learn to read body language before any of this stuff will work. And no surprise, you'll get more positive body language the better looking you are. Shit is depressing how easy some people have it due to extremely good looks/genetics and then they try to pass it off like they're kings of seduction. This sub is 90% crap and 10% useful advice.
/r/seduction25/07/15 01:51 PM
1

Essentially I got over my social anxiety when I realized that everyone is selfish and could hardly give a shit about each other. So what was I really concerned about? Most people are looking to humiliate you for their own benefit/self-esteem so I learned verbal warfare (look up "how to stop verbal bullying" type stuff). I get a little bit suspicious when someone starts asking too many questions about me without giving their own input. It's all about power and most people don't move beyond high s…
/r/seduction07/07/15 11:59 AM
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I think MOST people who make it to that level have to be a liar or a cheater to succeed at that level. Very few people just have incredible skills and don't need to do it. Others are given an upper hand in life by the fact that their parents/grandparents/etc. were ruthless liars/cheaters so they don't have to. The majority (those who don't make it to that level) will feign morality to keep others down and justify their own failure (or lack of trying) because they can't succeed even with lying an…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 01:53 AM
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it's a natural instinct to want to get laid. Getting what you want is power. I agree that sex is not the most important thing to get, but as a biological drive, it should be somewhat important. Maybe you should get your hormone levels checked out.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 01:31 AM
2

Read TRP, GirlsChase, etc. Talk to everyone you think is valuable or could be valuable to you in the future. Look them in the eye. Hold frame. Learn conversational tactics (GirlsChase, Models, Art of Manliness art of conversation/manipulation, Day Bang, etc.). Travel somewhere new for an extended time (i.e., study abroad). You'll need to talk to new people all the time just to get by. Also, try to make some local friends (beyond surface connections). Also, attend a top business school and speak/…
/r/seduction29/05/15 05:07 PM
2

I'd say 5 years since I really committed to improving sometime early in college. Short answer is I learned how to be a power broker in my conversations by internalizing tactics from a number of sites and books (TRP, GirlsChase, 48 Laws of Power, Art of Manliness website...Art of Conversation/Manipulation articles, etc.). After about a year of practicing, I no longer have to consciously think "what should I say next" or "how should I best respond to that insult/shit-test" or "what's my agenda for…
/r/seduction29/05/15 04:40 PM
1

You have to make her feel your attraction. There was a post a while back about how you look at a girl to show her you're interested and not afraid. You have to look at her like she's the hottest thing on earth and you're not ashamed at all for showing your raw sexuality. At the same time, you can smile a little so as not to come off like a creep. She has to break eye contact first and look down/smile. Then go talk to her.
/r/seduction26/05/15 11:31 PM
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I was always very smart, but I basically had to get over social anxiety and then it was easy sailing. I am now able to think a lot clearer and faster, no matter who I am speaking to, be it billionaires or really hot girls. You just stop feeling nervous and pressured around really hot girls after you realize how self-serving/self-centered most women (and to be fair most people) are and how little value they bring compared to their cost. You're actually going to help her a lot more than she will h…
/r/seduction26/05/15 11:07 PM
3

Not a virgin, but recently hit somewhat of a dry spell. That article hit the nail on the head...I'm popular, decently good looking, and have good game, but I'm afraid to hit on girls aggressively/consistently enough to the point of sex when there's a chance of something happening (re: risk rejection when sex is on the line). Part of this is setting my standards a little too high - I know some girls will reject me anyway so I'm not really risking anything real by hitting on them. I often ignore t…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/15 03:00 PM
2

There is a famous psych study about body images. They compared girls' ideal body image to the inhumanly proportioned barbie dolls and boys' ideal body image to the super muscular GI Joe dolls.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/15 12:42 PM
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relates to the whole don't be a tryhard idea. You shouldn't have to spew your knowledge of your hobbies/interests to impress people - you should do it because you find it interesting AND think they might too. Release info in small batches and see if they respond favorably before you continue on the same path.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/15 08:09 AM
1

you have to keep it exciting...do some one-time events that interest you (and see which ones you could turn into a hobby/interest) while still maintaining your routine.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/15 08:00 AM
2

For the non-financial people in the room, relate it to bacon. Everyone likes bacon.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/15 07:57 AM
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to be fair, you're just in another echo chamber with an opposing view.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/15 09:27 PM
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yes...simple enough considering the amount of pussies in there. But you do also have to know your shit (nerdy tech guys won't respect you if you don't), explain the issue clearly both in tech speak (for your team) and in English (for the client, non-IT management, and less experienced team members), and solve undefined problems. Your average nerdy IT dude knows his shit and can even solve most problems, but cannot explain it clearly in English or stand up to management and/or the client when shi…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 02:49 AM
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you don't just go and cheat. You tell her in no uncertain terms that you will dump her if she withholds sex and you follow through on it. Dread game is always being ready to leave. Many people on this sub don't recommend marriage because your dread game is limited...it's time consuming/expensive/etc. to get a divorce so you really have limited control over a woman behaving badly. Women also get better financial deals in divorce in general so there's a perverse incentive for a woman to behave bad…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/15 03:56 PM
2

I found this article to be useful. David Wong is a comedian and writer BTW.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 09:13 AM
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this hits home. I was always like this, but I've gotten over myself somewhat recently through constantly forcing myself into social interactions, no matter how much I didn't want to do it. It even bled over into my productivity because I was such a perfectionist, I never wanted to hand the project in leading to a lot of late projects (or sometimes I would start late on a hard project if I thought I would suck at it so I could give myself the psychological excuse that it was the lateness and not …
/r/TheRedPill11/03/15 09:10 AM
1

There's other cases where the exact same strategy does pay off. Bitter guys love to forget about the fact that girls can win the game. Girls who won the genetic lottery and learned enough pragmatism to use people... they can go far, way way farther than many hard working guys can. Truer words have never been spoken. Was quite revealing when a woman actually admitted this to me.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/15 10:39 PM
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I think you're learning lol. Yep...random reinforcement (think slot machines) when she does something you like and consistent punishment when she does something you don't like usually does the trick.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 08:51 PM
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yea but getting ignored by a troll really sucks. And ugly girls are more likely to be bitchy than their more attractive friends.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 02:36 PM
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just as a counterpoint, if you move to a big city it's really not that hard to find attractive women who are much more interesting than the large concentration of entitled feminists you will find on college campuses. When princess gets her first job (if ever) and realizes her psych degree will only get her a 35K job, she quickly stops acting like such a bitch.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 02:26 PM
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Always Be Learning. Even if they are awful people, they still have probably figured something out you haven't and it's your job to get them to tell it to you.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/15 02:22 PM
0

hahahha NO...you've been played. Everyone (and I mean EVERYONE) is self-interested. These women outwardly claim to hate special treatment but will use it ruthlessly to their advantage.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 07:18 AM
1

absolutely...alpha behavior is best when material resources are plentiful. Beta behavior is best when material resources are scarce.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 06:08 AM
2

unless they're at your workplace, it's probably not going to happen unless you do something entirely inappropriate. You have to be a little bit aggressive unfortunately and make women decide if they want to date/fuck you or not.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/15 05:32 AM
2

AMALT APeopleALT. The difference is that men generally have less opportunities with the opposite sex (Pareto principal) and more immediate consequences attached to their behavior so they can't just be selfish assholes all the time (unless they are part of that extremely attractive top X percent).
/r/TheRedPill24/02/15 06:10 AM
1

It's really a question of experience. When you're first learning, you're not confident so you tend to overfocus on getting a technique right at the expense of boldly asserting your personality. When I was 18, I didn't really have the experience to just be loud and masculine. In a sense, technique was all I had. Now that I'm a bit older, a bit more experienced, and much more confident in my masculinity, I can both boldly assert my personality and still run game without thinking about it too much …
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 07:32 AM
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and ironically, the asshole has a greater chance at a relationship having gotten laid before the nice guy. Act good enough, not like boyfriend material.
/r/TheRedPill08/02/15 03:17 PM
3

I find writing down my thoughts on why it went wrong after a bad experience and thinking of ways I could make it better RIGHT AFTER IT HAPPENS to be extremely helpful. yay smartphone notes.
/r/seduction07/02/15 09:04 AM
1

or you can Google image search "makeup vs. no makeup on girls". I knew a girl who took off all her makeup and then made out with me to see if I only liked her for her false face, not her real face. She didn't look amazing anymore, but still wasn't bad.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/15 05:29 PM
1

absolutely - I use dread game on anyone I am not forced to be around if they treat me poorly.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/15 05:30 AM
1

that is the goal, but harder to implement if you don't have top tier genetics.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 10:10 PM
1

yes, you do need some prior experience to be able to know who the right partner is for you if you plan to marry/LTR. You can consider each prior relationship a learning experience...but spinning plates can be fun for a while too.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 07:29 AM
2

I find people who have been drinking really annoying unless I'm drinking too. I usually have a drink or two at the bar and that's it.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/15 06:50 AM
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Unchangeable characteristics that women don't like will be a limiting factor. However, most people have so many changeable characteristics that they can work on that they never even approach that limit. So don't give up hope unless you have bottom of the barrel genetics, in which case you should probably focus on something else other than picking up women and just hire prostitutes. But if you're like most Asian/Indian guys, you'll just have to work harder in changeable categories than your white…
/r/TheRedPill31/01/15 03:21 AM
8

Some people are nice because they get a dopamine hit from the satisfaction of helping others. Even though they are doing it for something, this is colloquially considered to be altruism. Therefore, you can't always assume everybody who does something nice is out to get something from you. But in most situations, people aren't saints and their motives often aren't as pure as in the case of altruism.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/15 03:03 AM
3

there are so many things to improve that are changeable that it really doesn't matter unless you have bottom tier genetics or are already incredible in all changeable categories. That said, the worse your genetics, the harder you will have to work (ain't life grand). And to drive home the point, there may come a point in your life (hopefully when you're already near the top) where the marginal effort to improve outweighs the benefits. It's basic economics.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/15 02:57 AM
1

they have an algorithm which penalizes people for doing this now.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 08:25 PM
1

absolutely...it's a shallow app (because like most dating sites, it caters to women who are shallow) so play the shallow game. You can even wear 2'' lifts to the date so you can fudge your height on the app as 4'' taller than actual instead of just 2''. Most people generally won't notice up to a 2'' fudge factor.
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 07:57 PM
1

that's just terrible for an average man (say a 5). This means he can only get women with SMV's of 4 max, which means their RMV is like a 2 at best. However, the SMV/RMV gap is higher for hotter (higher SMV) women, so maybe it's like an RMV of 3 at best. Yikes...I understand why some men go MTGOW, especially if they are deficient enough in unchangeable categories (height, facial structure, etc.).
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 07:30 PM
1

Being a little nitpicky, but you have to care in many situations what others think about you to some degree to be successful. However, you really shouldn't care what women think about you during shit tests or what guys think/say about you in high testosterone situations (lot of trash talk).
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 05:51 PM
1

It's one tell, but once again, you need a couple to be sure. There could just be less light or maybe she's horny or or or...
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 12:14 AM
3

just because they're mean doesn't mean they won't be successful. This isn't some high school movie.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/15 06:27 PM
3

to be fair, he married at a time when things were more traditional and it's pretty hard to predict 30 years into the future.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/15 06:12 PM
1

then don't do it if it doesn't fit with your moral code or if girls rarely flake on you. Just know that many girls use this strategy. I personally hate wasting time (as you can tell from my username) and am not in the mood for waiting for the stars to align just to have a date with a girl. Finally, it really does drive home the abundancy mindset (most girls are replaceable), which is important for guys who often have fewer options than girls for a given level of effort.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/15 12:41 PM
2

And you're usually not approaching enough women if your rate is higher than 10%!
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 11:43 PM
2

You're welcome. Keep going! You seem like a paralysis by analysis guy. All the strategy in the world can only maximize success, not guarantee it. You need to have the balls to keep trying (and subsequently learning from) whatever your problem stage is. As you get experience and have more questions, read more articles. Don't think you have to read everything first to do it "right" the first time. Experience is king.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 11:16 PM
8

Think of it like a funnel - At each stage, more girls will leave until you get to sex. First stage is approach, second is number, 3rd is get her to agree to go on a date/meetup, 4th is she actually goes on the date/meetup with you, 5th is the date goes well..etc. until sex (or LTR...whatever you're aiming for). You will hit a snag at each subsequent stage until you get better at it...to get better at it you need experience. The metric you should worry about is how many times do you get to the "p…
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 10:32 PM
2

they say opening first is better because of anchoring. If you say a high number (but not ridiculously high because then they will think you are crazy and reset the anchoring to a very low number), they will have to negotiate down from there rather than up from whatever low number they throw out.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 06:45 PM
1

business school really beat in the "good enough" attitude. They give you enough work on tight enough deadlines so you really can't do it to contentment...just finish it on time and hand in what you have. If not, you'll get a terrible grade and be fucked for the next project, which will start before you've completed the first project.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 06:42 PM
20

it's just a saying...it doesn't mean she isn't sexually attracted to the guy. Stop listening to their words anyway. The wedding is just a me, me, me show for a woman.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/15 05:45 PM
0

girl actually implied this to me as I was hitting on her (and I was still slightly taller than her...hell I'm only slightly shorter than the average man)...so fucking rude. It is a constant uphill battle. If I wasn't by and large the life of the conversational group and didn't completely ignore her comment, she probably would have walked. not like she was super attractive or anything...she just happened to be the most attractive girl at a work party for mostly engineers/STEM workers.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 06:36 PM
1

gotta dehumanize those people who you lack the capacity to care for so you can get over your cognitive dissonance!
/r/TheRedPill23/01/15 11:18 PM
1

I don't see how your example makes them excel at the workplace. If anything, it would lead to more confusion and missed deadlines.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/15 06:58 PM
11

hahaha good luck with that one! Women are treated as children by your boss, your bosses' boss, and the rest of your (mostly beta or female) peers.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/15 06:54 PM
6

if you mostly deal with smarter women on a daily basis, that whole Hanlon's Razor thing goes out the door.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/15 06:33 PM
1

so if I take a-ko's comment and Dick-Tracey's comment together, it seems like the solution is benefiting the team when there is little conflict (gaining those team player brownie points) but putting yourself first when conflict arises.
/r/AlreadyRed23/01/15 06:12 AM
1

Wall-approaching or post-wall women who think they can still cash out a winner do. It's a female attempt to reduce the noise and increase the signal. It'll fail because there's no draw for men, especially those it wants. Will it get some? sure, but never the critical mass it needs to succeed. don't forget about gold-diggers! Maybe consider the time constraints many rich BB are under...many work like animals and don't have the natural attractiveness to pick up quality women easily/quickly enough.…
/r/TheRedPill23/01/15 04:47 AM
7

She does have a solid business idea. Cater to the women on a dating app and the men will come, even if she has to filter out most of the men based on wealth/education.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/15 04:23 AM
-1

Whoosh! I guess you just have to understand the context of the statement. The point is women lack empathy for men who are trying to attract them.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 05:37 PM
1

got it...always be aware of the connotations/implications of what you are saying. Be your own PR person and spin things positively (and even lie to very disingenuous questions).
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 05:30 PM
1

yea makes sense...I can be more nonchalant and only trickle out useful information. I really hate that it's all about power games and not about the free flow of information (probably why I enjoy talking to guys more, but even many of them are insecure). I get that you have to wait for the conversation to take a more interesting turn, but there is still a way to steer it in the desired direction without bragging that you learned something. How do you bring up a topic you have been studying withou…
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 02:32 PM
5

Can you give some examples/contexts of insincere questions and how people use your answer against you? this is not a test...I really just want to know.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 03:38 AM
1

yea it's really not worth it...if she likes you off the bat, then so be it. Otherwise, there's a thousand others once you pass that 20% (or whatever it actually is) threshold.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 02:45 AM
1

it's quite a different dynamic in boss to employee. Lead by example there. You're already in a superior position to your employee, unlike in a peer to peer situation where people feel they are equal with each other so doing something that makes you stand out shatters their perception of the equality and makes them feel below you. They then try to tear you down to make it "equal" or "fair" again.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 02:39 AM
0

not true unless you're bottom of the barrel ugly...you're deluding yourself - sparing your ego from the fact that you (and quite frankly most people) have to put in hard work (gym and eating right, meticulous grooming, great clothes/fashion etc.) to look good. Doing all of this will make you 10x more attractive than moping about how you're deficient in an unchangeable category (ie facial structure or height).
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 02:29 AM
5

I have always struggled with hiding my effort. I've tried to appear like a slacker and hide how much I prepare, but it only lasts for so long when your personality is very much A-type and you do really well at certain things. People get jealous and start tearing me down, keeping me at arm's length, socially excluding me, etc. What should I do? I understand the principle of hiding your effort to spare people's egos, but it's just hard for me to do so over a long period of time, especially in a co…
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 01:46 AM
3

yea but the reality is that it has a huge effect on your perceived status in society, which has a huge effect on how successful you are.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 01:36 AM
1

unfortunately, this describes most women I meet on a day-to-day basis! And it's not like I'm going to find quality girls at the bar/club either(not that I even enjoy those places anyway). Most of the girls on my level or above tend to fall into the hyper-competitive, aggressive one-upper category, although some of them have the common sense to tone it down when in more social atmospheres. I'm left with finding girls with similar hobbies and that's always difficult since I dislike coed sports (I'…
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 07:13 PM
1

and many extremely smart and emotionally secure women are just too much trouble to deal with.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 12:34 AM
4

yep...maturity and intelligence are separate things.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 12:28 AM
3

They do exist, but you wouldn't want to be in a relationship with them. They're just too annoying (constant clever shit tests) to be in a relationship with and often not feminine enough. Some of them may be physically attractive, but their personality is usually pretty aggressive/manly.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 12:22 AM
2

sounds like a quick next. Maybe you're young, but as you get older, you learn to stop voluntarily associating with people who treat you poorly.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 12:02 AM
1

you can give a potential LTR girl a little more leeway but not much more. AWALT - they're all looking to have sex with an alpha ASAP, no matter their partner count. If she gives you vanilla sex after a long wait time, you are Beta Bux. Ideally, you should try to pick your best plate and cultivate her into an LTR, so there should be little wait time. I would be hesitant about actually trying to cultivate a LTR from the get-go. Comes off as too beta. Generally great sex is a prerequisite (as in co…
/r/TheRedPill13/01/15 04:18 AM
5

B-school teaches game for the job market. I call it knowing where to focus your efforts and how to read through the doublespeak. EDIT: I don't want to mislead anyone here. There are a few very specific reasons and circumstances to go to B-school. Do your research beforehand to determine if the program is a good value for you! The original comment is more like an after-effect of B-school, not a main reason to go.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/15 04:03 AM
1

Why invent a new pill when the birth control pill does that already?
/r/TheRedPill13/01/15 03:16 AM
1

^ do not attempt the above if you're not a master-debater.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/15 03:08 AM
7

I had a dream woman concocted by media ever since I hit puberty. I used to see her in every woman I met. After being exposed to TRP, I didn't see her at all, and was left hating women for not being my dream woman. Then, I started to see there was some small value to them as a place to comfort me in my self improvement journey. I started to realize that I should try lowering my standards (from disney princess to normal girl) and now I'm finally doing okay. But I still don't really like women, at …
/r/TheRedPill13/01/15 02:47 AM
1

curious as to how marriage 1.0 was a raw deal for men? I imagine it wasn't easy trying to support a woman and children on a single salary (although it was certainly easier back then than it is now), but it did have a decent tradeoff of a more faithful woman who cooked, cleaned, fucked, gave into the man's dominance, etc.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/15 06:21 AM
3

bullshit...In addition to being illegal and unethical, this type of nonsense drives down overall wages and makes the situation worse for all employees. I will record every second I work. If they want me to work beyond 40 hrs, they are paying me overtime.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/15 03:02 AM
2

I imagine there are some technical details you leave out when talking to the competition, but "work your ass off" is not exactly secret advice. Most people are just unwilling to do so and it offends their ego when you tell them you did because it drives home the point that they're being lazy.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/15 02:49 AM
-4

tldr - separate big complex problems into the parts you can control and then act on them. Did you really need write a wall of text to say this?
/r/TheRedPill10/01/15 02:26 AM
3

some people colloquially confuse or combine motivation and discipline. OP is clearly combining the terms.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/15 06:15 PM
1

yea it sucks at first, but you eventually learn to just keep improving for your own sake and stop comparing yourself. Now, the only reason I look at others who are better than me is for inspiration and advice or to simply observe and copy them.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/15 06:11 PM
11

it's not just women. Most insecure people will do whatever necessary to protect their ego without ever admitting fault. It's just that women are more frequently given a free pass on such behavior.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/15 05:54 PM
1

don't make shit up, just make it sound interesting. That's the key...applies to most social interactions and job interviews. You come off as authentic and passionate, but not unrelatable or ostentatious. Also, keeping technical passions brief/high-level is good in social atmospheres (but not for job interviews obviously).
/r/seduction08/01/15 05:23 AM
6

yea definitely agree with not directly competing with others when possible, but most of the good women will have 12351235098 guys battling for them so you sort of have to at times. Just be smart about choosing your battles...it's probably not worth it to go after some girl who flirts with every guy she meets.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/15 02:36 AM
8

absolutely agree with most teachers sucking (at least before high school when you actually have to know something). I took a "teaching science to elementary school students" class and was horrified at how stupid most of these women were. The professor, however, was a Harvard PhD and one of the smartest people I've met...but he seemed to realize that few people really cared about science. TLDR - most teachers teach because they can't do. That said, it's a pretty good fallback option - great vacat…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/15 02:16 AM
2

I regret it if I'm not at least a little bit attracted to her...it's like going through all the effort for a date without any potential sexual reward. I really don't find many women my age (20's) who make good friends (typically way too demanding and selfish...the type of people who think that just existing entitles them to all the benefits of a friendship while giving very little in return) although there are a few exceptions. They typically want you to set up everything and invite them out eve…
/r/seduction03/01/15 07:38 PM
12

I agree with this! I always get too wrapped up in wondering how she's not even close to an ideal girl when I really should just take the best I can get right now for some experience (and fun) to leverage down the road as I improve. It's a date or lay after all, not a long commitment. The caveat is you have to be at the point where the women you attract are biologically at least a little bit arousing. I'm at the point now where girls who are "not unattractive" (to quote the reddit standard) are a…
/r/seduction01/01/15 07:52 PM
1

I don't know...most of the women in my university projects were highly motivated, even more so than the men on average. Of course, there is a selection bias with girls in STEM and B-school, especially at good universities. Many still had awful personalities (control freaks) and zero honor (would stab you in the back in an instant). However, I did meet the lazy types you talk about in my early classes in undergrad...they usually failed/switched out of STEM and ended up majoring in liberal arts.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 07:29 PM
6

well, MGTOW is in the news because of Japan with "Japanese herbivore men" type articles. The broad economic and social effects are seen when the men of a whole nation essentially decide women are not worth it given their current situation. TRP is not really quite at that level, but it will be as soon as American men wake up after feminist laws reach a tipping point of unfairness toward men. We're already approaching it.
/r/TheRedPill01/01/15 11:59 AM
0

All Women Are Like That (AWALT) - you and just about every woman do respond to the actions prescribed in this subreddit. Perhaps the application is a bit more subtle in high society, but rest assured if men know what they're doing, they're following TRP theory (subconsciously or consciously).
/r/TheRedPill31/12/14 09:26 AM
11

oh so being rich, popular, attractive through older ages, and happy will allow a person to live a fulfilling life? /s Your argument begs the question. No kidding that rich, popular, happy women with superior genetics will be fulfilled - this applies to just about anyone, male or female. OP was talking about most people, not the top few % of the socioeconomic and genetic spheres who will be happy unless they entirely screw up the golden platter they were given. But I agree with you about focusing…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 08:10 PM
2

yea but she still gets treated better overall as a result of looking good at an older age, even if she cannot land a top quality guy.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/14 07:57 PM
2

I can't speak for everyone, but most of us here are not aiming for women about to hit the wall looking for their beta bux. And the younger ones do tend to have consistent weighting of male attractiveness characteristics.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 05:07 PM
1

It depends how you use the money (conspicuous consumption) and how you got it (ie you have a lot of direct power over others at your job or are just a highly paid grunt). if you conservatively stock your money away for early retirement like any good financial planner, it's not going to matter to her.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 05:01 PM
1

I'd say a PhD in Physics from MIT still gives a few SMV points, especially over a Walmart worker, but certainly not enough to counteract physical attractiveness differences.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 04:45 PM
1

I agree with your point that some men don't have to work for it, but OP's analysis still stands that on average women start out much higher than men because they get points for just being a woman.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/14 04:39 PM
6

What about having both work, but only relying on one income to plan your finances around and leaving the other income for some luxuries and saving for emergencies like if an unplanned pregnancy, health issues, or divorce should occur?
/r/TheRedPill27/12/14 10:49 PM
1

They'll get to enjoy it when they retire early and can travel the world/live in luxury.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/14 10:37 PM
1

There's a slight misunderstanding...I meant don't care about how what others will think will affect you (don't be afraid of being hurt by some rejection when you share something personal about yourself - not everyone will like you and that's okay), but still care about how most people perceive you. Perception is reality. You still need to actively manage how people perceive you so you are seen in the best light. This is quite different from not caring about how others perceive you. You still wan…
/r/seduction27/12/14 09:14 PM
15

I hate to break it to you, but you're still a bit of a narcissist (most people are to some extent). You don't offer enough value to the group...it's not just about listening to people...you also have to share something about yourself that is for the group (i.e. be vulnerable), not simply to bring attention to yourself. People don't like to talk about themselves as much as you think, unless they are extroverted narcissists (the classic type you see bragging about themselves loudly or with a smug …
/r/seduction27/12/14 04:43 AM
1

I think the moderators should distinguish between useless complaining/whining and posts soliciting useful advice to get over this (or any other) insecurity. The problem is that the whining posts often lead to useful advice from other commenters so we may be decreasing the overall useful content by banning anything related to height/race/etc.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/14 02:28 PM
2

hobbies, volunteering, coed sports, people from your job(only if they work in another department)...essentially something you find interesting that you aren't only doing to pick up women. You may have to modify the activity to include women (like playing coed sports instead of men's sports). Friends of friends sounds nice (like in the movies), but the few times that did happen to me, my female friends always tried to set me up with people who I would never consider dating (essentially 4's and be…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 06:59 PM
1

I agree. I just think it's extremely agonizing to deal with 50/30/whatever rejections no matter how much you tell yourself it's not a personal ego attack. And some of them are vicious/cruel. I was about ready to break down the night I found my 1st girlfriend...8 rejections in a row, but she was the 9th and I had a wonderful relationship with her for 2.5 years. A good friend actually told me to keep trying(get back into the party) after that 8th rejection and it was just what I needed.
/r/seduction19/12/14 06:41 PM
3

profit...feminized people are easy to control and easy to incorporate into the labor force.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 06:11 PM
1

what if your insecurity is something you can't change/work at and social situations regularly remind you of it?
/r/TheRedPill18/12/14 12:02 PM
1

there are a lot of short and very successful men out there. The handicap is 75% in your own mind and 25% real. It is annoying admittedly (especially when you run in circles where most men are 6'+ and just as otherwise attractive as yourself), but at some point you have to stop focusing on it and start focusing on the things you can change. You'll find you feel a lot taller. And yes, the bar/club is probably not your best bet to find a girl.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/14 11:35 AM
2

top 20% refers to a whole host of characteristics concerned with how well you fit the bill for "alpha" (essentially how much control and power you have over yourself and others)... not really related to your income (unless you are extremely rich which translates into extreme amounts of power). Certain careers are alpha because you exert a lot of direct, critical influence over others (ie doctor), but once again its not necessarily about income unless you are extremely rich or poor enough that yo…
/r/TheRedPill17/12/14 07:47 AM
1

You must let go of the bitterness and then you will be free to use the knowledge to your advantage rather than let it overtake you. Are inter-gender interactions a little more transactional, ugly, and power-oriented than you originally thought? Yes, but that doesn't mean they can't be great as well if you manage them properly, which first starts with managing yourself properly.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/14 11:09 AM
1

there will always be a small percentage of privileged people who are never forced to question their values. That doesn't mean that they (and everyone else) shouldn't. I'd rather live in the "just do it world" and take as much control of my world as I can than let life bitch slap me as a bluepiller. I'm hesitant to believe anything is a miracle cure, but with hard work I have improved markedly using TRP principles.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/14 10:57 AM
1

yea the enthusiasm is something I had to try really hard to fake after receiving feedback from a mock interview. Eventually, I was even able to become enthused, although that came towards the end when I was crushing the interviews. I don't mean tact in that I would randomly spout out curse words in the middle of the interview, I mean tact in that I wouldn't know how they were looking for me to frame my answers...now I do.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/14 09:25 AM
1

I went on 20 interviews and learned this lesson the hard way. On the plus side, the last few went extremely well when I got the hang of it. Tact, spin, and situational awareness.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 01:18 PM
2

In the short term, I guess they'll just have to take some personal responsibility and increase their SMV to a point where they're not labeled "rapists and misogynists" when hitting on women. In the long term, society will get fed up of this shit and revert back to more traditionalist culture or it will die and be replaced by a more traditionalist society.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 03:16 AM
7

I agree with you within reason. The problem is that someone's idea of beta or alpha may not quite be in line with your idea of the concepts. I agree there is a point to beta shaming, but it can only be done for blatantly obvious beta things (like your example of buying drinks for a girl you haven't slept with with the expectation she will sleep with you if you buy her drinks). Even in that example, there is room for misinterpretation because we have to infer something about the mindset of the pe…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 03:06 AM
5

I've though about giving up too, but you need improve for your own sake, not for women's attention. You don't need to become some keyboard jockey's idea of "alpha", but you should form your own idea of what that means based on your values and some of the more rational stuff you read.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 02:58 AM
7

what sets u on fire bby?
/r/seduction16/11/14 11:21 PM
2

Yea I just can't integrate with the atmosphere at parties...they always make me either overstimulated (stiff and low energy), bored (low energy), or angry/sad after being ignored by girls for the more attractive guys next to me. I tend to go into my shell after those feelings and not want to meet people. And I really don't like trying to make shallow conversation with people over loud music. Also, I can't dance very well. I like games, but can only play beer pong/Foosball for so long before gett…
/r/TheRedPill01/11/14 05:12 PM
2

Yea sounds like complete bullshit and I've lived in a place with very manipulative, aggressive people. I used to live in NY...it's happened once or twice where random hot women have asked me to buy stuff for them in public (non-bar/club) places...but certainly not while I was watching the movie/in my seat - perhaps at the concession stand. They weren't particularly stunned when I just laughed in their face and walked away. There must be some guys out there stupid enough to do it if they're askin…
/r/TheRedPill01/11/14 11:50 AM
5

so you think...just remember that at their core, AWALT
/r/TheRedPill01/11/14 11:16 AM
2

just like most actions...that's where dating advice goes wrong. You can follow the steps exactly, but if you don't do them with confidence like you know what you're doing, they won't work...which leads me to believe it's more important that you go with confidence than memorize some list of steps.
/r/trpGAME30/10/14 11:31 PM
2

getting a stable, highly paid, cushy job where you can invest the majority of your income and live on the rest until you retire early is pretty much freedom and you're not going to get one of these positions without climbing the corporate (or whatever type of hierarchy you work in) ladder, gaining lots of connections, and/or being world class at what you do. Some people say "be an entrepreneur", but the reality is that it takes serious skills, connections, and a high risk tolerance that most peo…
/r/TheRedPill24/09/14 04:31 AM
1

Ironically, you'll become more attractive to women by focusing on yourself as long as your interests are not super nerdy. But if you want women, you still have to go get them no matter how much self improvement you do.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 04:31 AM
1

well maybe the "best" in that you probably won't make the same mistake again, but certainly not the easiest/most efficient (learn from others' mistakes so you don't have to suffer unnecessary losses).
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 04:21 AM
2

especially when women are young, relationships are for entertainment and tend to be superficial. I think you need to keep improving yourself for your own sake, not for the sake of being attractive to women.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 04:15 AM
4

this is why most people join TRP after being cheated on or otherwise used by a woman. It takes a traumatic event to make people see the reality through their rose-colored glasses that women don't deserve any sort of pedestal and many deserve a pit.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 04:04 AM
6

As a guy, I am too, but most women are not in this instance since it means the trait is not in his genes. Also, most women like the "it just happened" storyline as it is somewhat disturbing to them that most guys have to painstakingly plan out how to get with them. A natural alpha would not have to plan/practice much.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 03:56 AM
1

as another guy in the corporate world, some more actionable advice from the redpill.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 03:51 AM
1

yea sort of a slap in the face when you think about it. But I don't think most women mean it that way or fully flush out the comment subtext. I've only had one girl say this to me and I thought it was kinda weird as I was only 19 years old lol. If I only knew what I knew now, I would have told her she would make a good housewife.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 03:16 AM
0

I'm not so sure about that second point. There are people who have amazing marriages even nowadays, but it's just not likely unless you're one of the most alpha guys out there or you marry a not-so-attractive girl who has limited options.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/14 03:11 AM
1

I don't care if she has a boyfriend (women always swing branches), but a marriage or an engagement I will not touch.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/14 06:07 AM
1

The "friends" and the "fun" videos were interesting. OP seems to have some understanding of basic psychology.
/r/seduction22/08/14 03:43 PM
1

but non-sociopaths have the weakness that they are often afraid to act against negative emotional information even when it is in their best interest to do so (even taking into account public hatred/distrust).
/r/TheRedPill20/08/14 10:01 AM
3

yes there always will be someone better than you...stop comparing yourself. Just because some people are always going to be better than you no matter how much you improve doesn't mean that you can't improve to get the best you can possibly get. I probably won't be as rich as Bill Gates or as handsome as some male model, but I can still make myself richer and more attractive to some point. It may be depressing to realize that the slightly above average person is also unreachable like Bill Gates, …
/r/TheRedPill20/08/14 09:25 AM
1

it does provide an ego stroke...but as a guy it can harm your reputation if you are seen too much with ugly girls and do not interact with hot girls just as often.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/14 04:02 PM
1

men should have higher standards...absolutely agree they definitely should try for someone at or above their SMV. Unfortunately, since women control who gets sex, men usually have to go a little below their own SMV. When going below their SMV, men should look for a subservient woman who will actually makes the man's life easier.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/14 03:45 PM
2

I've always held myself to such standards. As a guy, the reality is that you have to be better than the girl at those traits (or at least overall) to get the girl you desire because pussy has some inherit value. Also, it's important to keep in mind that not all traits are valued equally across genders. Equality only exists in fairy tails.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 04:32 AM
1

it's just the effort to get to the "alpha stage" (doing well enough that you are secure in all aspects of your life including many 0-sum competitive ones) is not worth it for most guys. Therefore, women do not provide net happiness for most guys. It's a question of marginal utility...does the effort justify the reward?
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 04:27 AM
1

you should still practice regularly. Nothing beats experience...and even when your life is in a better state, you will still have to put effort into getting a good woman. Your past experiences in attracting women at a lower SMV will give you the opportunity to get the best woman you can when/as your SMV rises.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 04:16 AM
1

you have to play psychological games to get ahead in most competitive places...it should invigorate you that there is a new dimension you are able to work on.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 04:10 AM
1

The fact that women's and men's happiness is opposed in many ways makes relationships hard. At some point both parties have to learn to compromise. Many men and women, especially in the US, are not willing to do so until they hit the wall. Feminism + Individualsim = end of quality relationships in the childbearing years.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 04:06 AM
3

I've met very few women (around my age) of character. They few I've met have great character because daddy told them how the real world works and that they shouldn't act so entitled. It certainly is not a natural state...it must be religiously instilled in girls by strong male role models.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 03:55 AM
2

sounds a little too zen for me. Buddha never lived in the USA. I agree about not making women a priority but I still want to make a ton of money and am willing to work hard for it (although I will not work so hard that I have to sacrifice my health). I hope I am creative enough and able to plan well enough to retire early. I think living below my means is a good step to reaching this goal (ie not getting a dick of a mortgage).
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 03:41 AM
1

To answer your question, yes the payments will be a bit more sporadic when you are in the later years of the car's life. However, you will save money overall. Buy a reliable car and just finance whatever you cannot afford right now. As the finance payments end the repair bills will start to increase. The real value in owning the car is the trade-in value and the years you use the car after you pay off the financing. The point is that after the financing is paid, repair bills usually will be less…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/14 03:03 PM
1

agree with 1 unless you go to a Harvard or something. Leases are useful if you always need a reliable (re: new vs. old) car for work although you will pay more over time than outright buying. Still agree with 3 wholeheartedly.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/14 02:56 PM
2

yea some law schools are easy but becoming a highly paid, highly competent lawyer is not easy.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/14 04:51 AM
10

just graduated from business program...yep they're leeches alright. I had the beta act down to a science...then you hit them with the big guns - playfully tell them you don't plan on getting married (whether you do or don't is irrelevant)...it fucks with their head. Sometimes switching between beta shy guy and very alpha keeps them on their toes. For example, outside of class sometimes act beta and then wow them in the class with your commanding presentations and superior knowledge is the way to…
/r/TheRedPill01/08/14 08:54 PM
1

I found a lot of these chicks in b-school. Most of them are just amateur sociopaths. They like ranting about feminism a lot as well even when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/14 08:51 PM
1

I'm a soccer player who recently started lifting. You age better (lose less testosterone) when you're more muscular. It also helps you lose subcutaneous belly fat (the type you can see and squeeze) more than any other type of exercise. Focus on exercises that use many groups of muscles like squats and dead lifts. On a side note, interval training (very common for soccer players) is best to remove dangerous visceral fat (you can't see it but very bad for your health) in the stomach which can caus…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/14 05:08 AM
2

I am in my early 20's and feel the same way. However, I may consider marrying at a later age(ie 40), having no kids, and getting a rock-solid prenup in a state with less sexist marriage laws.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 05:17 AM
9

yea I actually used to fantasize about literally an angel women helping me through life in college/high school. Good thing I realized it was a fantasy back in med school when my girlfriend at the time who had loved me for 2.5 years straight made my life miserable in my time of need (decision to drop out of med school to pursue a finance/consulting career). In her defense, I did fall on beta behaviors through this very emotionally rough period. She was literally the closest girl I have found to a…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 05:05 AM
1

As someone who deals with very smart people day in day out (men and women at a top university masters program), I can say that these women are consciously aware (they have said to me when I baited them) of the advantages they have and games they play. They just don't care. And they still rant about feminism in the workplace wasting valuable class time. These bitches are positively sociopathic. But even less smart women are still aware of what they are doing, perhaps not to the same degree. This …
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 08:25 PM
5

in general, white women are more likely to act entitled due to a higher socioeconomic status and a more pro-feminist culture than women of other races in America. Feminism was founded by rich white women.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 06:08 PM
2

A dash can substitute for a semicolon or a comma.
/r/seduction13/07/14 04:02 AM
1

I don't agree with nofap, but I'll summarize some of the arguments I've heard...temporarily lowers testosterone, waste of time, lowers motivation to meet girls, can lead to putting girls on a pedestal, harder to get off to regular sex with an actual women. Most/all of these problems can be avoided if you do it only once/twice a week at most and avoid the really freaky stuff online. EDIT: I've read medical studies that testosterone levels recover in a few days...hence the twice a week limit. Don'…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 09:24 PM
7

nope...you need a specific concession from her and payment up front whenever possible..."Fast track XYZ high priority client for me first and then we have a deal." There's no such thing as a favor for a woman unless I do it of my own initiative without expecting anything in return. All other requests by women coworkers (not your boss) for help will be treated as transactions that require up front payment.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 01:43 PM
2

I told the one or two women who actually said this to me that I didn't plan on getting married, but I like your responses as well. I usually get nasty looks from them as they realize that I wouldn't be around to pay for them after they had taken their ride on the cock carousel.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 11:28 AM
2

don't forget becoming a doctor.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/14 02:51 AM
1

It's a vicious cycle. The world treats you like crap for being physically ugly so you become mean/awful. The world treats you even worse. You become worse. It takes a strong (and usually deluded) person to break the cycle. The opposite happens for very attractive people.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/14 02:39 AM
2

I go once every 6 months or so to see what I'm missing and if it's with a group of guys, not much. I only have fun when I go with a girl.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/14 01:41 AM
1

The word "feminist" and all derivatives including "anti-feminist" are very ambiguous. I become suspicious when a girl tells me she is not a feminist or an anti-feminist. I usually ask her to clarify exactly how she defines "feminist" (if I actually care), but ultimately how she acts (not what she says) is what determines what she is. Normally what they mean is that they're not a raging nutjob. I tell them that's not really a useful description...like me telling them I'm not Hitler. I ask her wha…
/r/TheRedPill02/05/14 02:19 AM
-2

It's called business school
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 10:47 PM
2

hahaha it's very similar to a job interview
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 01:20 PM
5

true, but the problem is that these qualities are less subject to outside influence. Sure a woman can get fat and ugly if she doesn't take care of herself, but it won't happen overnight and it's mostly in her control. Contrast that to financial stability and social reputation, which can be lost in an instant. Also, men tend to get more attached to women beyond what they can provide as other posters have stated.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/14 11:55 AM
41

In my experience, they are only there to cock-block you.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/14 12:32 PM
1

this is a great recipe to become some girl's wallet (purse?) when she hits the wall at 35 years old or some girl's beta orbiter when she is young and hot.
/r/seduction03/04/14 03:13 AM
1

by that standard almost all advice is useful...this is simply not true. Second, in my experience, it's less about empathy and more about projecting dominance. You can be some girl's lapdog beta orbiter and have all the empathy in the world. If you don't project a strong, dominant, sexual energy, it won't help you.
/r/seduction03/04/14 03:01 AM
1

I cannot believe how bad you must be if you actually need to read "advice" like wear cologne, shave your sac, exercise, and approach women more often. This is advice is clearly from someone who has never had to put much effort into picking up anyone...hot girl advice is the worst advice...you want advice from below average looking but not hideous with an above average boyfriend if you are in fact looking for a more transferable perspective from the other gender. Even then, 99% you'll find it's b…
/r/seduction03/04/14 02:27 AM
2

better to ERR on the side of ego-maniacal IMO...
/r/seduction03/04/14 02:21 AM
2

greatest gift I found on this site was seeing human behavior for what is it...pure selfishness.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 03:57 AM
2

it's technically called "fast casual"...did a research project on this type of restaurant.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/14 05:10 AM
1

Assert Dominance - don't argue with a hamster. EDIT: Tried arguing once or twice online - got downvoted into oblivion. Can't imagine it's much different IRL, except those relationships actually matter.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 04:56 AM
2

I think you have to qualify a girl to see if she believes in the same things, but I wouldn't bother explaining it to her...you're not going to change her mind. EDIT: think of it as your own series of shit tests to see if she is up to your standards for anything more serious than a plate.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 04:46 AM
10

Funny story...I was walking through an area of my college campus where there are a lot of students soliciting for various events/parties/charities. Two guys try to hand me a flier to some frat party...i brush them off. Then, this random attractive girl (part of the group with the two guys) tries to hand me the same flier about a party at some frat house and says "I'll be there" as if her mere presence is going to make me attend some horrible party. She did this to most guys who passed her table.…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 06:22 AM
7

yea I agree...Besides, women are able to earn the same wages as men so they should pay for their own food.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 11:49 PM
1

Lucky you. yea me too...have the job and income, but then again I'm like a 6. I've really become disillusioned with girls...I don't even bother trying, and I really do have to try to pick up girls. In good shape, but not super muscular or tall. Could certainly become muscular, but not tall lol. Maybe I could be a 7 or something but it doesn't seem like it's worth the effort. Bulking is not exactly healthy.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 12:02 PM
2

finance masters here...image is misleading...ke should be exponential, not logarthmic growth. It just keeps getting reweighted toward the debt side so that the wacc (ko) remains constant. Interesting note...with taxes, wacc(ko) slopes down linearly meaning debt is good. Of course, there are other factors that counterbalance the benefit of interest tax shield from more debt.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/14 05:45 PM
2

median is a better measure of central tendency...
/r/TheRedPill15/03/14 01:50 AM
-6

this video is so POINTLESS! To be happy you need to be awesome (moderately wealthy, successful career, healthy, etc.... "good externalities") and then you won't need to emotionally rely on others for your happiness. Why aren't we all awesome? Because most people aren't capable of having mostly positive externalities and quite frankly it relies on a good deal of luck which he doesn't consider. Also, many positive externalities are based on competition...being moderately wealthy and having a good …
/r/seduction08/03/14 02:23 PM
11

You present some interesting perspective, but I can't understand why he needs to be "The One" in your mind for you to be faithful? Be a decent human being and just break up with the guy before cheating on him. You shouldn't settle for a guy you have no attraction to, but people are more than just a checklist of personality traits so maybe stop boxing them in when you first meet them as yes (he satisfies checklist criteria 1) or no (he doesn't satisfy checklist criteria 1). Second, "the one" does…
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 11:52 AM
2

I had a glassy/translucent cube floating a little above head level with a wooden ladder that reached the height of the cube but was just out of reach of the cube. The horse was brown, cartoon-like, and running around the cube/ladder making a lot of dust. The flowers were desert roses on the very outskirts of the scene. The storm was very far in the distance, but ominously approaching and the cube was turning slightly darker. I may or may not have an essay due in 3 hours. Psychoanalyze me, amateu…
/r/seduction05/03/14 10:33 AM
3

how many single and physically average or better women do you know who have absolutely sparkling personalities? Do you know how rare that is in the US?
/r/TheRedPill05/03/14 02:12 AM
5

vast majority of women in the US are succubi. Even when they do provide sex, most of them don't even care to make it the least bit interesting. And I would describe them as emotionally withdrawing as well...the shit-testing/stonewalling/emotional manipulation gets really old really quickly.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/14 01:56 AM
3

I'd actually want to achieve something beyond just exploiting society's benefits so I would focus on my career with the understanding that I probably wouldn't be able to get a super high-quality guy later in life if I forgo marriage early. However, I would definitely go to more social engagements (parties, bars, etc.) seeing as benefits are simply showered on you for the mere fact of being a non-ugly woman. However, if I were supermodel hot, I probably would just exploit social benefits to the m…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/14 02:26 AM
2

great analysis...really insightful. One day, society will catch up to this fact and stop giving middle class white women unfair advantages. I've heard girls (re: upper-middle to upper class white girls) in my business school classes speak out in support of feminism in the workplace while the teacher nods along trying to avoid losing his job. Fucking disgusting. I wish I could stand up and say something, but it's simply not worth it to get into some huge argument in the middle of class and have t…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/14 02:09 AM
2

men are judged by women less on their looks and more on their behavior/actions than women are judged by men.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/14 01:50 AM
7

"not big enough for your ego"
/r/TheRedPill11/01/14 03:11 AM
2

Just another example of insanity: keep doing the same thing and expecting the results to change. You should keep this philosophy in mind for just about everything in your life - if after a sustained and sincere effort something is not giving you the results you want, you need to iterate and try something else.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 04:35 AM
1

should point out this only works if you both are of relatively equal skill. I'm pretty damn good at tennis so this wouldn't work for me unless she played regularly.
/r/seduction03/01/14 03:45 PM
1

I wouldn't want her to hang around me only because I bought her dinner...she seems like a beggar or homeless person. That's why the woman is paying her half if it's above $10...so we can more easily determine if we like each other for something other than free food/entertainment.
/r/seduction29/12/13 07:06 PM
5

I'm not spending more than $10 on a first date and I'll be damned if I'm buying her dinner or $12 drinks at a bar. After that, we're going dutch if it's something over $10. I do tend to pay a little more than half once we're in an actual relationship and I know she's not into me for money. I don't want any princesses/gold-diggers in my life.
/r/seduction29/12/13 02:13 AM
2

"Pip" (Season 4, episode 5)
/r/TheRedPill29/12/13 01:54 AM
2

anyone in med school is going to be hyper competitive and not have time for a damn thing, including a new relationship (although usually they're able to still fulfill minimal duties of a current relationship that started before med school). And this demanding lifestyle continues into residency/fellowship. Only when they finally become a physician at 30+ years old does it tone down. And by then they have hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt (unless her parents are really wealthy or she was on…
/r/TheRedPill29/12/13 12:00 AM
1

the southpark version was pretty good as well if you're interested and don't have a ton of time (it's only 20 min. on southparkstudios.com)
/r/TheRedPill28/12/13 11:53 PM
3

yep cars and houses are money pits...get the cheapest available that suits your needs in your 20's. A master's or PhD from a top school in a useful subject area will serve you well beyond your 20's.
/r/seduction28/12/13 06:28 PM
2

it's not great advice...it's decent advice for people who want to be slightly above average. You need to do considerably more than this list to be great. Being exceptionally hardworking, outgoing, socially graceful, and smart is probably the starting place.
/r/seduction28/12/13 06:19 PM
5

no...PhD programs are free...you usually have to pay for masters degrees.
/r/seduction28/12/13 06:15 PM
1

yea and generally they don't lead to super high-paying jobs, not jobs worth 7+ years needed to earn those degrees anyway.
/r/seduction28/12/13 06:13 PM
1

and you're likely only getting a free ride at a shitty law school.
/r/seduction28/12/13 06:12 PM
2

I think they're getting the wrong type of women when they blatantly use money.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/13 03:55 PM
1

if you love math, become an actuary. If not, you probably won't be able to make it through all those irritating tests. On the other hand, I think doing an IB analyst stint for 2-3 years only is a good decision though...opens many doors in business/finance. Very very few people work in IB for longer than this because the burnout rate is so high and the exit options are quite frankly a lot better than continuing in IB for most people.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 04:21 AM
1

You may find some helpful tips in books, but you're not going to radically change your personality from reading a book...get out there and start taking some risks by talking to all different types of people and sharing about yourself.
/r/seduction26/12/13 08:37 PM
1

yep...getting established in a high-paying career in your 20's is what will make your SMV skyrocket when you hit your 30's. I switched from chemistry to finance BTW (not that I can't use both by working for a pharma/oil company).
/r/TheRedPill08/12/13 04:14 AM
-5

I don't think this applies to all art by women, but certainly most female videobloggers and comedians. Since videos and comedy are entertainment activities and entertainment depends (even more so for women) somewhat on good looks, attractive women already hold a lot of intrinsic entertainment value so their content doesn't have to be as interesting.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/13 03:38 PM
2

In my experience, most of the girls with good personalities and good (but not amazing) looks (aka those good for relationships) are going to be already in relationships. The ones not in relationships generally have a major undesirable characteristic about them (either too focused on their careers, bad personality, etc). It's the principle of preselection.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/13 05:23 AM
3

what a ruthless bitch...the main reason she wants to marry is for money. Good luck with that one.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/13 06:40 AM
6

It's not about the dinner to her. Despite what she says about wanting to afford luxury herself, she still gets pleasure primarily from having others pay for her. I bet you even if she were rich as hell she'd still be out trying to prey on unsuspecting betas.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/13 06:37 AM
3

lol 60...it's more like 90 if you want to make it up there.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/13 02:53 AM
1

duh, just tease her for being so forward about it. "I bet guys just tell you that because they feel bad for you."
/r/seduction29/10/13 01:13 AM
0

Not phrased in a PC way, but I do understand how you're feeling. Most women are not worth dating. Go find the ones that are. You'll probably have to significantly improve yourself to find them. In my experience, I've found good women when I found success in my professional life and I've lost women when I failed in my professional life. My happiness is tied to my success in my professional life. Just focus on improving yourself and good women will come. Be sure screen out the gold diggers.
/r/seduction20/10/13 03:15 PM
9

hahahhaha I love these posts. Welcome to most other people's world - it's a cruel, discriminatory, shallow place.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/13 08:05 PM
1

Necessary Sample Size = (Z-score)² – StdDev*(1-StdDev) / (margin of error)² At a 99% confidence level, the population would have to be ~300 for this sample to be sufficient. At 95%, the population would have to be ~500. I don't know know too many places where the combined population of a mid-sized college and a community college is only 300-500 students. EDIT: Maybe they have a huge margin of error...
/r/TheRedPill09/10/13 03:33 AM
-1

if you knew anything about conducting research or statistics you'd know that 172 individuals is absolutely nothing and their findings cannot be generalized to any population beyond that specific college.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/13 05:34 PM
29

Are you Asian? I only ask because this reads like an anime episode that was translated into English.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/13 01:36 AM
3

you're not worth arguing with. Your useless platitudes will get you upvotes from idiots on this site, but they are still useless platitudes. I'm pretty sure my elementary school had a "be yourself" sign on the door.
/r/seduction03/09/13 02:55 AM
3

sure they're confident until they hit 5 and learn they're ugly. It really doesn't make a difference and supports my argument anyway. They're confident until they have things expected of them that they've never done before. Your point is irrelevant and based on semantics - I could start my argument from the time children become aware of the world and how others treat them instead of birth. Over time, being told you are ugly, being excluded from groups, and being ostracized will lead most people t…
/r/seduction03/09/13 02:14 AM
12

No one is born emotionally strong (and whatever other nonsense you are talking about). All people have to fake it until they make it. Everyone was a fraud at one time. At one point, even your dad was socially inept and not confident just like everyone else. He had to act brash even though he wasn't confident. Then he became confident. EDIT: You're just observing guys at different stages in their emotional development. There's no need to hate on less confident guys because they don't scream confi…
/r/seduction03/09/13 01:49 AM
1

I think paying for small things like ice cream, coffee, a few drinks, or rides/games at a fair is fine and probably even expected on a date, but I wouldn't buy drinks for some random hot girl at a bar. Nor would I go to dinner with a girl until we were getting serious. That's one of the advantages (or disadvantages) of being a man...you get to plan the date. SO ALPHA BRO.
/r/seduction22/08/13 11:39 PM
3

"let's get coffee" is usually a good one for a pre-date...easy to bail if they are crazy, inexpensive, low pressure, and usually seen as a sign of romantic interest (in the US) without having to say "date". Also, bitches love coffee. EDIT: you can then ask her on a more traditional date at the coffee shop if things go well. You might wonder why not just ask her out on a traditional date in the first place. Well, this pre-date gets you both used to interacting in a date-like scenario so the actua…
/r/seduction22/08/13 01:44 AM
1

agree...as someone with little fashion sense, the business casual look and getting clothes tailored really did wonders for me (although I did it for business school, not specifically for girls lol).
/r/seduction22/08/13 01:35 AM
-4

Dates are the long way to a relationship. You should only be dating her after you've had sex.
/r/seduction22/08/13 01:28 AM
1

I disagree - I've gotten similar results and I am definitely not a 10. Many girls will go for a free meal with a guy as long as she is not repulsed (esp in college/at 21 yrs old). It's a much better test to invite her to do something that doesn't involve you paying for her meal, but still make it clear that it is a date. EDIT: It's the same principle behind buying a girl a drink at the bar. You're immediately signaling yourself as a beta provider. It doesn't work out usually.
/r/seduction22/08/13 01:19 AM
2

Similarly, engineering is not the only way to make a good living.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 12:55 AM
2

that's how they trick you into being a psych major.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 12:47 AM
3

I know you're somewhat right, but it hurts a little to think of all the years I spent thinking of myself as less than a beautiful person - the only thing that was less was my physical appearance and confidence. The first you can remedy. The latter you can completely reverse. However, you have to agree that beautiful people do have it easier - must be nice to have opportunities, women, and extra money handed to you. I'm not ugly by any stretch, but I'm not a male model either.
/r/seduction01/08/13 10:33 PM
4

Definitely agree with point number 5...if she's not fitness-minded in her prime, good luck trying to get her to work out when she's older.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 06:18 PM
2

DING DING DING! "A lady who is not yet red-pill-aware, but is open-minded and [submissive]." By far the best relationships of my life. Good luck trying to find a redpill aware woman in real life.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/13 06:16 PM
2

spot-on...I knew many high-school theater kids who looked like carbon copies of OP. I graduated in 2008 so it may have changed.
/r/seduction10/07/13 04:22 AM
9

exactly. They fail to distinguish that MEN AND WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT!
/r/TheRedPill05/07/13 09:17 PM
2

most women hit the wall (get significantly less physically attractive and cannot sleep around with high quality mates easily) around 30-35 yrs old. A man's market value peaks around 35, while a woman's value peaks in her early 20's (when she is most physically attractive). That's why it's easier (your market value is rising, women's market value is falling). 30 yrs old is generally seen as the equality point in market value. Past this point, men will have a higher market value. EDIT: further exp…
/r/seduction01/07/13 02:44 PM
1

I thought just like you at one point. Then I went to med school for a semester before dropping out and realizing what the truth was. The doctors you find living in luxury now are those who went to med school years ago when salaries were high and tuition was low. The only ones who live in luxury now are those who out-compete most other med students and get into those extremely competitive specialties. figure ~200-300K in med school debt...balloons to 500K while in residency because you can't even…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/13 01:28 AM
1

dude you're not going to get rich as a doctor unless you are ONE OF THE BEST DOCTORS (ie the people who make it into dermatology and other super-selective professions). Dentistry is a better deal for most people.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/13 09:57 AM
1

if you have that much anxiety, you probably should see a professional.
/r/seduction25/06/13 08:44 PM
1

Seems a bit philosophical, but I'll bite. You have to be a little bit delusional to succeed in just about anything worth achieving. After a few rejections, you realize that you're still okay and the opinion of random women doesn't really matter that much. It's akin to throwing a non-swimmer with floaties into the pool - it will be difficult, but once you realize you can't sink, you relax and get used to swimming. And after you get good at it, you find you get rejected less and less. And suddenly…
/r/seduction25/06/13 08:24 PM
1

Most people avoid things that make them feel bad... sometimes to their own detriment. Nobody likes to be belittled (the first time i did this i was about to cry by the end of the night!), but experiencing that it isn't that bad is the first step to overcoming it.
/r/seduction25/06/13 07:12 PM
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I was like you too. But you can still get through it. Keep approaching (continuously, around 6 to 7 girls per night) and getting rejected. Fight through the pain. The point is to overload your feelings so you experience that it's not actually that bad to get rejected. After a while you will basically become numb to rejection and girls can sense it...THIS IS SUPER ATTRACTIVE! The worst thing that one could reasonably expect to happen is some girl will turn out to be a total bitch that you never w…
/r/seduction25/06/13 06:40 PM
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I found it was mostly boredom/escapism that led me to activities like that. Could be different for you, but this was my experience... I used to play 30 hours/week of online speed chess in high school. Fuck high school. I barely played in college and my life got a lot better when I started trying to take control of my immediate surroundings as opposed to escaping into a chess game for 30 hours/week.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/13 04:26 AM
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A Beautiful Mind Note: the theory used in the movie is wrong, but here is how you can actually apply theory.
/r/seduction18/06/13 04:55 AM
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yea but it can take many tries to make statistical variance negligible.
/r/seduction18/06/13 04:45 AM
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People can't resist quick dopamine rewards. Such as upvotes on Reddit?
/r/TheRedPill07/06/13 04:39 AM
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In my experience, it's just a brag forum...I try to only check it once a week. I couldn't care less that someone I met once at a party got promoted or that some random person from my high school got into a good grad program. I usually just hide the people that do this (hide = can't see their stories on my news feed, but not de-friend). However, it is useful for networking with certain people and keeping in contact with good friends who live far away and girls.
/r/seduction03/06/13 12:43 AM
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the last one is not true because most people don't carry a gun at all times. But the rest is true. However, tall people get paid more on average so it's basically a moot point.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/13 03:27 AM
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college. As long as your college is bigger than say 5000 students, you can pull this off.
/r/seduction22/05/13 09:15 PM
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The hard-deadline worked for me in college. I not only got laid, but found a fulfilling relationship with a feminine girl all while applying to med school. I met her at a fraternity party - same idea as a party with people you know. Not saying my results are typical, but i think if you scare yourself enough with the idea of losing your virginity to a hooker, you will be very motivated to approach and escalate with more respectable girls. There is a lot of tension in med school and very little ou…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/13 03:07 AM
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Set a hard deadline for a year or two from now. Try to hit on just about every girl you find attractive in you everyday routine during that time using the stuff you learn from TRP. I would be especially outgoing in these next 3 months - try going to social events. Bars may or may not work for you (I'm guessing not). Friends' parties are better - smaller atmosphere where you know more people. Another option is day game - join a group where women your age are present - yoga, gym, casual sports lea…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/13 02:29 AM
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I read a little bit of that sub yesterday. Many commentators are trying to make the OP feel better, especially if OP is female. It's either guys with low standards or unattractive women who think that boosting OP's rating boosts their own rating. Also the ratings are skewed. Most people who are really ugly know they're ugly so people understandably try not to be too critical. Also people who are really attractive generally know it, but they still get high ratings, although they are rightly accus…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 05:14 PM
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it's probably the latter, no offense. Maybe 1/50 is actually extremely physically attractive. If you look ripped, dress well, and have a very symmetrical face, then it's because you're intimidating.
/r/seduction09/05/13 04:49 PM
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you hit the nail on the head with #2...insecurity. Hit on the more attractive girls and you will probably get better results.
/r/seduction09/05/13 04:42 PM
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yea I don't find them fun unless I go with a group of people (4+).
/r/seduction06/05/13 04:20 PM
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The problem with porn is that it doesn't force you to visualize what you would have to do and who you would have to become to get a woman that attractive.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/13 04:14 PM
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At the end of the day you have to validate yourself - no one is going to do it for you without an exceedingly high price.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/13 04:12 PM
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Don't be so surprised. Health care professionals are people foremost...nasty, greedy, selfish people just like everyone else.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/13 02:45 AM
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You can also use other people's negative expectations as fuel to achieve something extraordinary. I trained almost every day to become the best soccer player on my team. I used to sit on the sidelines as a sub who was never used in games. Now I'm the star.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/13 05:34 PM
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Your height and weight don't have to define you. Start to define yourself by what your are good at while still accepting that you can improve your weaknesses. I'm faster and just as strong as most taller guys. I too am relatively short, but I really don't ever feel small unless I'm next to a giant.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/13 05:29 PM
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I've been called a cynic, but not a sociopath.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/13 05:15 PM
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This behavior is certainly encouraged/permitted by Hollywood.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/13 02:58 PM
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There were ~200 girls in my high school class...at that time, maybe 20 of them were hot and another 40 were decent. By my calculations, that's 60/200 = 30%.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/13 04:38 AM
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Often, we fail to ask this simple question about any sort of advice, even the stuff on TRP. In high school I asked a straight girl around the same age how to get a girl. She told me she didn't know. That was one of the most honest girls I've ever met.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/13 04:28 AM
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I tend to have some pretty interesting conversations with people...just go off on a tangent. One way is to talk about grooming preferences in your private areas.
/r/seduction22/04/13 04:46 AM
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no, I'm about a decade younger than you. You should let me know how it turns out lol.
/r/seduction21/04/13 02:42 PM
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you sound like a carbon copy of me...it's almost like reading my inner thoughts.
/r/seduction21/04/13 01:53 AM
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What is the problem with men improving so they can get the rewards they were promised when they were younger, one of which is a woman? A new mating strategy has to be learned and practiced. It is only one aspect of self improvement.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/13 01:33 AM
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I was a little sad when I started reading this sub, but certainly not depressed like you're describing it. I had an inkling that the world worked like TheRedPill before I came to this sub so it didn't really hit me all at once. The key is to see it as a challenge to overcome, but I've been doing this my entire life with other obstacles.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/13 01:41 AM
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didn't you read it?...no suit, just abs/muscles.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/13 11:18 PM
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that one hour advice is priceless...I'm in my 20's and I play soccer or piano (two things I love to do) for one hour a day and it just puts me in a good mood for the whole day.
/r/seduction05/04/13 05:31 AM
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it's possible to have a career and still marry young, but maybe not have an insanely demanding career that takes over her life to the point that she cannot marry.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/13 10:42 PM
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A couple of my neighbors are primary care doctors and I was once in med school (for a semester). family medicine blows nowadays...if you're not good enough to get into a specialty residency (as opposed to primary care), you should do something else, especially if you care about money . Getting into a good specialty residency is a pretty high bar that most people don't make. And the med school debt is just insane to the point that it doesn't make economic sense to be a doctor unless you get into …
/r/seduction04/04/13 04:26 AM
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Most people normally memorize about 3 good stories and just tell them over and over again to different people. Some people need to write them out first. Either way, you get to the same level of conversation.
/r/seduction03/04/13 04:45 PM
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You just described me. I really hate emotionally opening up to strangers, but I don't find it too hard to make a smart observation.
/r/seduction03/04/13 12:25 AM
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true...just find the girls who are more masculine (or even just more comfortable hanging with guys) and have more relatable interests. Oftentimes, they grew up with a lot of brothers (or another strong male presence). But beware, as RedSunBlue said, they still are women no matter how manly they act so don't get caught up in their horseshit.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/13 12:04 AM
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you're still the center of your own universe. This is both an empowering and frightening fact.
/r/seduction17/03/13 08:17 PM
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I found it to work pretty well in a college setting...god forbid you phrase it as a traditional date and a commitment that a woman would have to keep her word. It makes me hope that these college-age girls will grow the fuck up sometime before their bodies are all used up.
/r/seduction17/03/13 08:06 PM
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I love the comments: Yes, let's assume that most women are academic scholars who want to keep their names for professional recognition. That's one problem with feminism...it falsely assumes most women are very affluent and have important jobs...women buy into it because they want to become that woman when the reality is that very few will have those big jobs and even fewer will have substantial wealth. First you have to become important, then you can act like you're important and people will tak…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/13 07:42 PM
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just make sure you realize that at one point she may blame you for not getting the chance to ride the carousel (even if she doesn't feel that way now). I would wait till they're a little bit older and had some time to experiment.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/13 07:28 PM
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