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Tell me that when straight porn doesn’t show a blow job for more than 30 seconds and the only way to see that sort of oral is in same sex porn. You’re imagining yourself as the genitals being performed on, not the person doing the action itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:42 PM
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Do you understand how male centered straight porn is? It doesn’t focus on female pleasure at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:19 PM
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If a woman watches lesbian porn then she enjoys seeing an actual oral on a woman and imagining she’s that woman. Simple as that. No part of that makes her not straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:08 PM
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Have you never met an equitable relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:22 AM
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No, heterosexual relationships still hold the trophy for that second one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:20 AM
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I don’t see how that makes men romantic. Performative actions done for selfish intentions aren’t romantic, they’re just playing the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:09 AM
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Not what the data says in 2022, but really nice try! Heterosexual marriages are experiencing high rates of sexlessness (25 to 50 percent). https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-state-of-our-unions/202210/the-battle-of-the-sexes-has-left-more-couples-sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:03 AM
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That’s completely incorrect. According to a Gallup poll, 14% of LGBT Americans identify as lesbian. Bisexuals make up the largest percentage of the LGBTQ+ population at 57.3%, followed by gay (18.1%) and lesbian (15.1%). Source
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:02 AM
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Maybe not every month. But every decade would be great 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 03:00 AM
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Dude that’s a poll from 1983. That’s the best you’ve got?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:55 AM
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None of that is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:53 AM
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No, heterosexual relationships still hold the trophy for that second one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:52 AM
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That’s a very large outlier lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:51 AM
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Then explain lesbian relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:48 AM
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All of this is one big assumption that women are lying when we say we’ll pay on the first date. The moment a woman, like myself, explains that I pay for the first date your argument goes away completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:45 AM
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Just admit you don’t pay any attention to ugly women and that’s causing your confusion. My god dude
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:04 AM
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No, I don’t know that. Because it’s straight up not true for unattractive women. Please admit you don’t pay any attention to ugly women, and that’s causing your confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:00 AM
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I support this. Platonic life partners are a valid choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:56 AM
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Not disagreeing with you, just saying that if you’re an unattractive , awkward and socially inept person you’re likely incel, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:50 AM
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Unattractive, awkward and socially inept people tend to be incels, regardless of gender lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:40 AM
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I see a growing number of posts on reddit about women complaining that men are not approaching them anymore. Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:39 AM
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I would say roughly, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:35 AM
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The female equivalent of a male virgin is a female virgin who is that way because she’s unattractive or socially awkward. The male equivalent of a woman who’s been assaulted is a man who has been assaulted. 100% this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:47 AM
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That’s fair. I also think we had a lower standard historically. Between human rights and lack of shared information, things like abuse and marital rape were normalized. Add to that women had to marry in order to survive society, of course people found partners when community sizes were smaller. Now that it’s an equitable and level field, people choose a relationship if it adds to their life, fulfillment or happiness. Personally I think that’s a good improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:13 PM
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Depends on the level of connection. If we’re talking relationships I’ve noticed men move on faster than women, at least in my experience. But focusing on early dating, women tend to date until they have the find no connection or chemistry. It often takes a few dates to gather all of the info, and once you have that data there’s no point in going further.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:07 PM
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wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:40 AM
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Why do you assume I’m a communist? Why do you assume I’m not religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:36 AM
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If I go to fucking condado condado?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:35 AM
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I thought it was fucking hilarious how stupid some people can be in their racist tirades. Like they’re clinging to the ol’ dumb + racist conservative trope lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:30 AM
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Had to Google it but Daddy Yankee is a Puerto Rican artist. Puerto Rico which literally is a US territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:24 AM
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Yeah the US doesn’t have a national language, so it’s not English as you’re weirdly assuming. We’re a melting pot, have been since the very beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:08 AM
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Then why are you just labeling them as women in your comments? As if you think the two labels are synonymous? You didn’t paint an accurate picture, wtf am I supposed to do with the nothing info you give
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:04 AM
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Dear lord, please tell me you recognize that women =\= feminist. There are female conservatives, you do get that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:01 AM
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“yes all men” is a rage tweet by conservatives dude The very people that want to perpetuate the very culture war you’re complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:58 AM
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No one hates you hon. We just hated being treated like second class citizens. So we put an end to that. Now we’re equals. We want less violence, we want less harassment, we have zero issue with you unless you’re one of those violent and harassing people, which I don’t think you are? So why would you group yourself in with those guys? Defend those guys and their disgusting behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:54 AM
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Dude I literally work in construction. But also do you think you can just build a house on any random piece of land? You do understand how land ownership works, right??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:52 AM
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I read it all. I even agree with some of those points. Personally I think gender roles are stupid and men should absolutely go into women-dominated fields. I also think mental healthcare is an absolute necessity, which is why I support progressive healthcare. My question to you is, if you really care about those things, why the hell would you consider voting Republican?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:50 AM
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Where did I say that? I said no one gets brownie points. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:44 AM
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Because wages aren’t keeping up with inflation. & corporations are price gouging both groceries and housing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:42 AM
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If you stop hitting someone in the face, you don’t get brownie points for not hitting them in the face anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:41 AM
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Feminism happened in spite of men. Quite literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:39 AM
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The immigrant issue is a strawman. It’s a ghost story used to convince poor people that corporations aren’t hoarding the wealth. It’s also a convenient excuse for racism, which is more than rampant in this country- clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:37 AM
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to the founding stock of this country. Yeah, those were immigrants
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:36 AM
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Welcome to what life’s been like as a woman for centuries? That’s all feels, it doesn’t actively affect your day to day life. Imagine being told that shit from day 1 on this earth. That’s what it was like being born the inferior gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:35 AM
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Unless you’re literally indigenous, your family is also immigrants to this country . . just fyi
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:32 AM
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How is the “culture war” actually affecting your day to day life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:29 AM
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No it’s truly not. And I say that living in Texas.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:28 AM
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That could be true, but you and a lot of others struggle or outright fail with that question (until it’s pointed out to them). No one’s struggling. They’re just refusing to play your dumb game 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:04 AM
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I can evaluate hypotheticals just fine. What I don’t condone is the attempted bait and switch you’re trying to non consensually discuss specific sexual actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:46 PM
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Respectfully I won’t be answering any dumbass work-around related to giving someone head. That’s sexist and offensive. Explain how it’s related.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:12 PM
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Why are you asking such an irrelevant question?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:05 PM
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Men do act like victims but not nearly as often or as seriously as women do Basically all of PPD disagrees with that. But sure, enjoy your perspective 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:02 PM
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So you’ve heard those specific female friends complain about “locker room talk”?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:53 PM
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I think most women aren’t compatible for most men and the relationships they want. That’s just how humans work. I don’t believe in this “high value/low value” myth, because the characteristics and traits you may be looking for in your lifelong partnership are likely different than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:40 PM
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Let’s say you didn’t eat breakfast this morning, how would you feel? what??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:36 PM
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Let’s just assume that there’s more gen Z folks getting into this. There’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:00 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:07 PM
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By her own sources they’re clearly happy feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:26 PM
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It has been said on here before that would rather share the alpha guys rather than settle. Doesn’t make it a true or accurate statement lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:21 PM
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nice attempt at a strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:19 PM
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If they don’t want to approach or be approached then do they just not want to date? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:09 PM
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I’m not. .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:07 PM
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No. You’re identifying with the crowd she’s weary about. That’s your issue to figure out. Most people are cautious about strangers, that’s how humans work. Women have to be additionally cautious. Ironically it’s dudes like you so adamant to demonize helpful advocacy like the MeToo movement that’s the main reason we’re still very aware of the problematic people in this world. Recognize the brush you’re painting yourself with, and if you don’t like that picture, change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:15 AM
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So you’re being offended by something that supposedly doesn’t apply to you. Rather than face the very real and present threat that is sexual harassment and violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:02 AM
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I don’t know where that text is coming from. That text doesn’t say nor imply that 100% of men are sexually coercive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:56 AM
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What you just described is still legal and a thing you can absolutely do. All that’s frowned on now is the blatant sexual harassment most of us lived through for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:54 AM
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But corporations, companies and institutions aren’t in the business of covering up and normalizing murder the way they normalized and enabled rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:53 AM
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No one’s saying that. You’re interpreting it as that, which honestly says a lot about what you think men are capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:52 AM
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What about the consequence that men don’t approach women as much now? You mean people mind their own business and don’t engage in casual sexual harassment? Thank god.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:50 AM
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Why? If you identify with those men then that’s a bigger deeper issue. .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:48 AM
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Everyone knows that’s wrong Clearly not. Because we still have people raping and we had even more people looking the other way and letting it happen. That’s what MeToo was about. Uncovering the systems in place that protected predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:46 AM
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Me too has made women think that all men are predators and the only thing keeping them in check is massive amounts of shaming. That’s not a metoo issue. I was 12 the first time I was sexually harassed. Most women had experiences like that long before they were 18. Then as adults in the workforce it gets murkier, if your boss puts his hand on the small of your back what can you say about that without risking your job? Every woman has a story like this. For every story we have there were dozens of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:45 AM
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it was telling men not to rape. And how is that a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:40 AM
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Dude is getting your dick wet really worth living an otherwise unhappy life? Did you at least land a relationship out of it or did you really sacrifice your hobbies and passions for just 8 minutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:44 PM
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Why on earth would I encourage him to change his passions for the imaginary chance of getting laid? How pathetic is that? I’d teach him to be his own man, and find his own fulfillment. The right person will come around, but he’ll enjoy his life until then. I’d teach him to stop pitting all of his emotional and mental wellbeing on some imaginary external validation, same I would tell any daughter. Self-assured people are happy and confident, they win out in the end. Not someone posing and pretend…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:35 PM
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Okay. So? The odds of finding someone interested in the same hobbies as you are zero if you don’t invest in those same hobbies. No one’s saying finding a person isn’t unlikely and difficult. But being in your element and being passionate about something will absolutely make you more attractive to a potential partner. Not everyone’s compatible with everyone, that’s the frank reality for everyone out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:26 PM
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That’s because a lot of the women gamers lie about their gender because guys can be sexist pricks when they realize they’re interacting with a woman. Just don’t be a sexist prick and boom you’re already miles ahead of the majority of video gamers out there lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:12 PM
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Hey as long as he practices basic gun safety than I don’t see the issue there
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:09 PM
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Because women also like programming and video games
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:08 PM
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It’s not normalized. Some people engage in graphic conversations sharing intimate details in a casual manner. That’s not a gendered thing. That’s also not normal or average behavior for anyone of any gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:00 PM
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Once again we’re conflating two completely separate groups and are pretend shocked when it doesn’t make sense. The women complaining about “locker room talk” aren’t the women sharing intimate and graphic details of their sexual conquests with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:52 PM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:54 PM
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That’s not how sub/dom works . .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:43 PM
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I mean that’s how any dom relationship works. It’s the sub submitting to the dom.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:32 PM
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I don’t think you understand femdom. or dom. or relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:28 PM
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Because men & women compete in entirely different categories & movements. .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:16 PM
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All the scientists and philosophers are men. All the chess champions are men. Anything that builds the world around you is made by man. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:13 PM
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the world record deadlift was 1,185 lb for a man and the world record deadlift for a woman was only 672lbs Women have a lower center of gravity than men. Due to a typically larger pelvis, which provides better stability for women during pregnancy and carrying infants. Men’s center of gravity is much higher due to a larger shoulder mass. Smaller pelvis and more upper body muscles generally translates to a higher ability of upper torso strength in men. This is why male and female gymnasts compete …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:56 PM
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So what does that have to do with “keeping their relationships intimate”?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:36 PM
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many men like to keep their relationships intimate: it helps them get more. Explain this logic..?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:27 PM
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She literally said “I want the fewest number of men possible to know me intimately.” That’s a valid statement and preference for a person to hold themselves to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:20 PM
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Why? She literally said “I want the fewest number of men possible to know me intimately.” That’s a valid statement and preference for a person to hold themselves to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:19 PM
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What works for one person doesn’t work for another. This commenter’s personal preference makes total sense. Why are you so antagonistic about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 03:00 PM
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My timeline was always about my own comfort, not about manipulating the guy or following rules or stupid shit like that. This. 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:25 PM
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For me it’s just about waiting till I feel comfortable enough to be sexual with a person. That usually takes a few dates. I’m from south US, raised Christian/not anymore. But lived on East Coast, so my sexual habits aren’t tied to my geography.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 01:48 PM
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Invest time energy and resources into his passions. It makes him a more interesting person, gives him purpose and drive beyond needing a woman, and makes him a more appealing partner for someone down the line. Plus personal happiness and fulfillment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:39 AM
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I disagree. In general it sucks to be intentionally deceived, doesn’t actually matter if it’s money, or sex, or fame. If someone gets close to you by saying specific lies with the intent of using you and then throwing you aside, that universally sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:49 PM
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I can’t speak for the UK health system, as I’m from the US. But you’re assuming a level of long term elevated care for majority of people. Having done my fair share of one on one therapy, group therapy and support groups, as well as using a regular psychiatrist. It’s not one size fits all. All of the tools already exist in our systems, they’re just currently privatized or completely non-profit, in terms of those support groups and group therapy. Ironically your defeatist attitude is a large part…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:23 AM
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Are there toxic people of all genders that crave toxic people? Absolutely. Are those minority of people representative of the majority? Not at all 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:25 AM
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Are you speaking from your personal experience as a woman? Or are you remembering all those conversations with female friends where they poured their hearts out to you about what they like and are attracted to and into sexually? Or are you speaking out your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:24 AM
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That is all fair, except for the distinct differences in resources needed for mental healthcare vs “the bleeding kind”. Short of actual hospitalization for an emergency mental health episode, basically all of mental healthcare can be done 1:1 via digital healthcare. That opens up a lot of opportunities for public mental healthcare that are a lot easier to implement than local programs that are limited to their specific zip code.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:24 AM
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Those points are hard to grasp when he starts and ends with “all women are liars”. How exactly are women supposed to participate here when OP admittedly won’t listen to anything we have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:21 AM
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Well duh. If they treat a woman well then they’re not objectifying her and pumping and dumping. You literally stumbled on the answer there in your very comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:20 AM
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As a successful bisexual woman I can assure they’re not. Conservative women, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:19 AM
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We have universal healthcare (NHS) In some countries, sure. *but mental healthcare is still abysmal.... * Agreed. But reasonably the solution is to work with the current medical infrastructure and build up mental healthcare options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:05 PM
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Yeah, that’s universal healthcare. I’m a progressive democrat so I’m in full support of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:44 PM
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So universal healthcare?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:37 PM
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Tell us you’ve never gotten a woman wet, without telling us lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:04 PM
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I could say Yes, and then that would be a lie. I could say No, and then that would also be a lie. Do you see your nonsense now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:02 PM
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What do you honestly expect anyone to say to this? OP straight up says he knows everything a woman says is a lie. So what are we supposed to say in rebuttal? It’s a nonsensical position that truly can’t be reasoned with. Frankly it’s downright insulting it’s been live on this sub for this long. What else are the women here supposed to feel except frustration?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:01 PM
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Explain your thought process here. You: Women lie about everything Also you: admit women lie about everything Even if commenter said “yeah women lie about everything” then by your own stated logic that would be a lie, meaning women don’t lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:55 PM
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I don’t think you’re using the “/s” correctly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:14 PM
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Yes, just like all criminals that are prosecuted for illegal acts. That’s not a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:07 PM
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Those are all illegal acts that are absolutely prosecuted, what are you talking about? Are you actually having a delusional break right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:04 PM
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None of that is a gendered experience. Assholes exist of every gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:56 PM
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tell them to stop lying when they’re proven to do so. Examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:54 PM
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No. For all men, that is terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:44 PM
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What about a women’s part? What do women have to do? All that info’s pretty covered by mainstream media and societal information on sex. Step 1. Get it hard Step 2. Put it in Step 3. Be careful not to break it while changing positions What else is there to talk about?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:44 PM
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This is truly terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:27 PM
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Purple pill convinces men that women are too dumb to know their own mind. That we’re deceitful, not out of malicious intent, but because we’re too dumb to recognize our true deep feelings on any subject. It’s misogyny, plain and simple. It’s also terrible advice to follow for anyone that wants to date a woman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:25 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:04 PM
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So you’re suggesting that even more men ignore women’s pleasure during sex- and you think that’s going to get more women to engage in casual sex? The orgasm exists for a reason. There’s a reason most of us don’t engage in casual sex. Why would I want to sleep with someone who clearly thinks his dick is a magic wand and my pleasure is an unnecessary accessory to the sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 01:00 PM
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I never said all men are not modeled empathy. I simply described a societal pattern where a lot of young men were not given the necessary tools. None of that is on them. None of that is to say they’re incapable or that, quite the opposite actually. Its about failing of society and as a result a large portion of men have been adopted the shallow stoic behaviors modeled to them with no actual instruction how to internally process those emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:52 PM
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So wait, women decide what is weakness. But when I say that anger is weakness you a man say that I’m wrong. Make it make sense hon 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:43 AM
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Yeah, that was the point. It mirrored real life DV where the abusive dude starts out charming and nice. Guys like that are manipulative, that’s how they draw victims in and then slowly tear away bit by bit till they get more control.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:34 AM
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I know a rage bait when I see one. Clearly you don’t. Look it’s clear some deep seated trauma is blurring reality and fiction for you, but the outrageous generalizations you keep stating here are not fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:18 AM
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Think about the type of person who “confesses” shit on TikTok and posts rage bait videos. Ask yourself if you really think that behavior is universally representative of all women in the world. Your mother, your grandmother, your aunts, all grade school teachers that were women, your dentist, your lawyer, your female coworkers, or any of the women on here plainly telling you you’re off base.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:02 AM
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No, still doesn’t apply
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:47 PM
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Women aren’t a monolith. You get that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:45 PM
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No, I don’t read romantic fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:37 PM
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They don’t. I mean they clearly stick out to you, which maybe deserves some unpacking in and of itself. But to most of us no, they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:36 PM
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some women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:29 PM
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No I think if I was truly wrong, they’d be as many women fantasizing about the good guy, to the point the bad boy thing wouldn’t even be a popular trope Dude literally single book that doesn’t use the bad boy trope fits that bill. Tropes are niche attributes by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:28 PM
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You know most writers don’t make a living from their work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:21 PM
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Sweetie I will proudly admit my kinky sexual fantasies. Dom/sub play is great. None of that means that I prefer bad boys irl. That sexual hobby also doesn’t carry over to my fiction reading. You’re conflating a lot of different things here and trying to make them fit, and they just don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:02 PM
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Which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:58 PM
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I think it kind of is, considering 1 in 3 women is a victim of domestic violence. Hold up, are you actually assuming that all domestic abusers fall into the ‘bad boy’ trope?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:40 PM
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Yeah that’s sexist drivel. Literally doesn’t pass the Bechtel test. Look to movies and tv shows developed by women if you earnestly want to see what women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:36 PM
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The same reasons you’d read literally any other fiction. The characters are interesting or the setting is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:33 PM
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Explain to me why dudes like you are convinced that women are deceitful and lying by nature, and then come on here asking questions to us as if you’re ever going to believe what we say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:31 PM
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The women dating ‘bad boys’ irl are not picking up romantic fiction books in their spare time. Most women reading romantic fiction books, don’t date ‘bad boys’.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:30 PM
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I am on those types of subs. I also know lots of women. What you’re assuming is this widespread pattern, just isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:26 PM
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Ironically tho, that anger is showing signs of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:23 PM
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and we see similar preferences in dating patterns. I don’t think we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:19 PM
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The women viewing romance media however fantasise about being the female protagonist who falls in love with a bad boy pirate/billionaire/surgeon/werewolf/vampire Why are you assuming that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:17 PM
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This feels like we’re purposefully invalidating women’s autonomy. Is that what you’re suggesting here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:09 PM
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I think you’re conflating general intrigue with sexual interest. Those are very different things. Even then, why are you gendering this question unnecessarily? By your logic are we assuming that men who like the books Clockwork Orange or American Psycho are wannabe serial killers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:07 PM
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Please stop sharing your hyper-specific sexual delusions with the class.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:00 PM
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Because that’s how fiction works. If you want to read about your actual life you read non-fiction. That’s not a gendered experience. Edit: OP is literally using DV stats to try and prove his point that women want aggressive men. .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:49 PM
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You’re just describing the current status quo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:45 PM
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So exactly what everyone’s already been doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:43 PM
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This means men need to go outside the social norm in order to create opportunities. So what are you proposing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:09 PM
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This means men need to go outside the social norm in order to create opportunities. What exactly are you suggesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:53 PM
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Yes. I don’t think it’s conscious though. Society by and large raised boys and girls with two distinctly separate tool boxes. Where girls were modeled empathy and sensitive communication, a lot of boys weren’t. They adopted behaviors modeled by their fathers/male role models. In a lot of cases that meant adopting the stoic mentality and not really facing your feelings until they blow up in anger. For lots of us feeling an emotion is a natural and unconscious thing. We learned over time how to id…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:29 PM
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Why is it that exercise is better at treating anxiety and depression than SSRI’s and convential therapies? It’s not. I don’t think we need to coddle anyone, especially people like who you talk with authority on subjects they don’t really understand. Reread my previous comment, I haven’t minimized nor ignored the benefits of exercise. I just recognize the reality that is executive disfunction that occurs when a body doesn’t have the necessary ingredients to succeed. It’s like trying to turn on an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:22 PM
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It’s not. This is a false equivalence. Mentally healthy people have the energy and motivation to maintain a regular exercise habit. While exercise does release natural endorphins which are one part of a healthy and stable mind, they don’t provide enough of the recipe to fix mental illness issues by itself. If your body is not producing or regulating the proper dopamine or serotonin it needs to maintain a healthy balance then statistically you’re already facing the executive disfunction commonly …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:17 PM
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You’re assuming loneliness is purely caused by lack of romantic attention when in reality it’s just a lack of social connection in general. That social connection doesn’t rely on body type or attraction. It’s a mental health epidemic, one small part of that is diet and exercise, but it’s silly to pretend that changing the vanity externally will solve any real holistic problems overall. It’s emotional and psychological, definitely not helped by our modern day technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:58 AM
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Women like making mistakes and don’t build anything. Whereas men try ( and sometimes fail ) to avoid mistakes and keep structure ( with social pressures ) , even if it doesn’t do right by everyone . This is lovely fiction. Not at all based in reality.. but I’m sure it feels real to you. Enjoy your backwaters perception. I’ll stay over here with science, logic and reason ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:52 AM
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You have yet to prove any supposed claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:02 PM
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What math? You live one life, you spend 100% of time stuck with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:34 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:33 PM
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Dude. I’m LGBTQ, you’re off base on this one. No one is using gay like an insult here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:10 PM
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No it’s not. Because there’s nothing insulting about being gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:11 PM
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Why don’t women hold each other accountable like men? We do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:09 PM
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No. Its just not centering your own life around someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:05 PM
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None of this is an excuse to use being gay as an insult though. no one’s doing that . .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:18 AM
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Do you have any standards? Or are you truly that desperate? Value yourself a bit more hon. Your time and energy is worth more than that, surely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:30 AM
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OR don’t make every decision and change based on hypothetical women you want to bang and just live the life that brings you personal happiness and fulfillment. When we say women love confidence, that’s what we’re talking about. It’s literally just self-assurance. Having an independent mind, brave enough to live your truth. Stop changing yourself for girls, it’s ineffective, it’s grueling, and it’s not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:21 AM
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Because we don’t. We call out asshole behavior. So why aren’t you??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:16 AM
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Twitter is a global platform selling verified accounts for $8 a month. They’ve monetized misinformation with no regards to public safety. In my opinion it’s up to governmental oversight for their countries, but above commenter clearly disagrees so I was asking for their perspective on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:15 AM
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I agree, free speech shouldn’t be policed. But this isn’t a case of free speech. This is about ethical information and what global authority we think a corporate billionaire should be able to sell away for $8 a month. It’s about corporations monetizing misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 03:09 AM
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It is not the government’s job to determine what is disinformation and what is not disinformation. Then whose job is it? Because their corporate self-policing is clearly not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:21 AM
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This is a very skewed take lol. Have you read up on the legal proceedings of this case at all? Explored why Brazil is sanctioning X..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:46 AM
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Explain to me how, according to you, my attractions are chosen whereas men’s aren’t theirs are set? A. How do you know this? B. What was your research methodology?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:28 AM
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Your inability to comprehend a topic is a reflection of you. I know why I’m bi, because I feel sexual attraction to people across the gender spectrum. Gay men and bisexual men exist, btw. Very happily. Just thought you should know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:28 PM
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Yeah that’s not what clairvoyant means. Also, they’re not “sensing” anything. They’re reading the specific words you’ve chosen to share with the world. Finally, no. This perception you have of women craving Chad is just silly. I’m starting to recognize your likely young age and am gonna leave this conversation now
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:55 PM
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I guess it depends on your gender & lived experience. Girls get their periods around 10-13 yrs old, so from then on every month you have a very real and sometimes painful reminder of your childbearing potential. I don’t even think I’ll ever have kids and I’ve still spent the past 16 years doing the math over and over again in my head. For dudes it’s a lot simpler to never think about it and then just “have it happen”. But we’re literally the incubators and if we’re signing up for that physical a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:52 PM
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I don’t think you know what clairvoyant means. .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:42 PM
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Yes. If you’re partnering up for life and looking to have a family why would you settle down with someone who doesn’t have the job security, financial savings and healthcare benefits to carry you through pregnancy, birth, & nursing. Do you know the toll that takes on a woman’s body? Would you sign yourself up for that if your partner can’t carry the load for at least a year after you’ve been ripped thru vagina to anus?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:40 PM
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I haven’t objected to any of this because it’s wildly off-base and frankly too delusional to debate on. Your understanding of women, nor men, isn’t grounded in any real science, biology or psychology. It’s just your sexist perception, which is very fucked up imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:34 PM
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No. Because that base level of respect is what gets those dudes laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:31 PM
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OP wanted to talk about gender equality and how resources should be equally divided in the relationship. So that’s what we’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:31 PM
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Being nice gets you nowhere when your douche energy drowns out any fake social niceties you try-on. For those of us that are genuinely nice people, we don’t deal with the droughts you’re fessing to. Now take your bi-phobic comments and fuck off 💕
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:29 PM
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It literally does. I can confirm from both sides of that equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:17 PM
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I’m bisexual. But maybe you’d get a better pick of women too if you were less misogynistic? Just a thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:12 PM
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See that’s where you’re wrong. Womanizers absolutely value women. Just not as people with feelings and personalities. To those guys a woman is a prized possession, the body, the look, the sex, the confidence, they hold all of those values that women represent very highly. Which is why vain + shallow women like guys like that. Because they also value visual aesthetics and physical experience over feelings and emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:08 PM
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yall just want someone to deal with money shit while you go full retard at target No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:05 PM
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They’re your friends. . .Why don’t you tell us why the rules are different for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:04 PM
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Respect is bare minimum. Period. If you don’t respect a person then you don’t interact with them, at all. Women don’t “reward” men with anything. They just connect with each other. That requires a bare minimum of respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:03 PM
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Women don’t have to be sexually attracted to each other, to call themselves gay. No, that’s literally the whole point. Unless you’re referring to asexuality or demisexuality, where sexual desire isn’t a trigger at all. But even for those the sexuality isn’t a choice. But if we want to explore your misinformed logic, and pretend that sexuality is a choice. Then by your own logic men are just as capable of investing in relationships with other men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:00 PM
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It’s logic. Your perception of a thing expressly informs how you interact with that thing. That’s how humans works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:56 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:50 PM
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No, definitley not a choice. For men or women. Also no, straight women aren’t intimate with each other. Real life looks a bit different than your pornos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:42 PM
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No, those examples are not alike at all. Also no, your world view and opinion on women directly informs how you interact with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:35 PM
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I’m using that example because that’s what so many women, myself included, so desperately try to avoid. I think we’ve all dated at least one dude that was sweet and loving but damn was he an energy leech. You guys on here love to look at the most optimistic view of relationships, which is fine and dandy. But it’s also important to explore the reality of what happens when you put people into situations they’re not prepared for. That’s all I’m advocating for here, for us as individuals to do the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:33 PM
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Careful now, you’re sounding like a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:27 PM
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I don’t disagree with that. But I still think that it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy and a waste of time/energy. If hating women is your hobby, great- you do you. Just stop asking us why you can’t get a date, as if your actions and energy aren’t clearly indicating why.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:10 PM
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Women can also be misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:05 PM
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Are you going to take a year+ off work to birth and nurse the baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:04 PM
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Sexuality isn’t a choice, as a bisexual woman, I know this intuitively. However, when guys on this subreddit complain about being lonely and then list all the reasons they despise women, it makes me wonder why they’re still trying to date women. It’s the contradiction of badmouthing women as a whole and then complaining they can’t get a date. The answer seems pretty obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:59 PM
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No, I think we’re pretty aware of that boost of confidence. We’re just aware that said confidence doesn’t magically come from nowhere. That’s our emotional input. That’s our energy intentionally boosting them up. Now imagine, someone who’s held no accountability for their own confidence and happiness when they’re single. They spent all of their singledom blaming all of their woes on women not dating them. Now picture that person suddenly in a relationship. Do you think we as women can instill th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:55 PM
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Sexuality isn’t a choice, as a bi-woman I intuitively know. However, when dudes on this sub are complaining about being lonely and then proceed to list of the laundry list of reasons they despise women, sometimes the only response to that is asking them why the hell they’re still trying to date women. It’s the badmouthing the entity of women and then complaining that they can’t get a date, which feels like an obvious answer in and of itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:47 PM
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It fixes the feelings of shame and loneliness you get from not having a girlfriend. Not really. If you haven’t put in the work, then the shame spirals are still there, they’ll just find new things to spiral about. Also that’s a pretty quick recipe for a codependent relationship. You’re making a leap where if a guy is sad about not having a partner then that feeling is indicative of a larger character flaw that needs to be fixed first. I get what you’re saying but that’s not my intent. A “flaw to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:37 PM
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What “fruit” are you talking about? The work itself is the fruit, that’s the goal and the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:19 PM
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This. Most women experience responsive desire. . not spontaneous desire like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:09 PM
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That’s a whole a lot of assumptions, none of which seem to be on the mark. This advice is gender neutral. I as a woman adhere to it myself and also hold my friends and family to it as well, if you’re not safe and healthy on your own then you should not enter into a relationship. It places an undue burden on your partner and a lot of unhealthy pressure on yourself to “perform” as a healthy person rather than actually find a healthy lifestyle for yourself. That advice is specifically for getting i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:06 PM
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Those aren’t comparable things bro. Plenty of mentally-ill people are in toxic relationships, you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:00 PM
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One problem- most women don’t experience spontaneous desire. Which this whole idea seems to depend entirely on. This idea completely forgets responsive desire, which is required for most women to feel that sexual drive. (which ironically is why most dead bedrooms happen in the first place lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:56 PM
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Love is just sustained infatuation. No, it’s definitely not. You may be comfy because of all the attention from friends, family, social media etc, but that exactly proves that you want a relationship. You simply outsources those needs to others instead of a significant other, again, likely because you’re damaged emotionally. None of that is what being in a relationship is for. It’s not about attention or basic social interaction, the people who think that are damaged emotionally. It’s a very odd…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:46 PM
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Work with no results is pointless. The results are not hating yourself. The results are enjoying your own company and liking the feelings inside your mind. That’s the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:31 PM
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Hard disagree. External validation like a girlfriend does not fix any of the internal, mental, or emotional issues bubbling under the surface. Much worse it places a lot of weight and pressure on another human you just met to provide all of your happiness and fulfillment- which is not a recipe for happiness for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:25 PM
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It didn’t. Because it doesn’t work like that. An external bandaid doesn’t sort out any of the internal, mental or emotional issues bubbling under the surface. You slap a new coat of paint on a junker car and it may look nicer but it still drives for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:20 PM
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Has there truly been a time in your life where you felt worse in a relationship than before? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:20 PM
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You know a girlfriend’s not going to magically fix your self-image and emotional well-being right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:38 PM
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No external magic is going to fix what is an internal self-worth issue. Either you put in the work to fix your mental and emotional well-being, or you feel like shit. That’s the hard reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 04:22 PM
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*you’re
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:33 PM
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Cringe sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:31 PM
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Go on, get triggered. Seems like you’re triggered enough for all of us here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:17 PM
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Men’s are not because of women. Seriously? You’ve spent time on this sub, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:09 PM
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What a wild read. Not credible or relevant, but good satire
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:59 PM
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Women would say it’s harder. I’m resenting women for that. So you’re resentful of something an imaginary woman would hypothetically say?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:43 PM
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It’s not contempt, it’s neutrality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:28 PM
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The truth is most women are indifferent to men and could care less about the average man’s existence. In fairness that’s not a ‘women-thing’, that’s just a human thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:26 PM
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women imagine the abstract concept of a “man who wants to date” to be an unpleasant person. No, they’re just neutral. I think some people see that neutrality as negativity, when it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:57 PM
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Ask that question please about Jewish people, Palestinian people, non white people, first nations people.... No. None of those are equivalent. Those examples all deal with specific actions being done to a group of people based on prejudice. In this example of being weary of a dude, no actions are being taken. So no, not like the holocaust, or genocide, or active religious war zones. .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:39 PM
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It does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:02 PM
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Link does not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:44 AM
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It’s a good relationship when it’s compatible and energizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:38 AM
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No. Not doing that either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:29 AM
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Well then at one point you believed it to be better than being alone. At one point it was a good relationship. Then it became a bad relationship for me, so I left it. Because having no relationship is better than a bad one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:28 AM
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You see delusion and mistake it for ‘reality’. Your perception is biased as fuck man. Get your head out of your ass, and look around. We’re hanging with our dogs, not dating chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:15 AM
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Have you been in a bad relationship? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:14 AM
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No. How is he a victim? What actions are being done against him?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:07 AM
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If you open yourself up, you’ll easily fall in love with the people you like. That’s not love, that’s infatuation. Like seriously no one really believes being single is better than a fulfilling relationships. We’ve had this debate countless times bro. Being single is settling, and we all know it. It’s not. You may be comfy because of all the attention from friends, family, social media etc, but that exactly proves that you want a relationship. You simply outsources those needs to others instead …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:04 AM
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So being single is just better then I take it? For some, sure. For others, no. Depends on your aspirations and life goals. Fair enough, women should boycott relationships entirely then. We do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:01 AM
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I’m trolling you? Are you even reading any of these links you’re sending? According to the maxim Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, “different people have different ideas about what is beautiful”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:08 AM
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A good relationship is better than being single. Not really. Every relationship has an opportunity cost. Things you can’t peruse, do, achieve, or try. You’re compromising your lifestyle to fit with someone else, and when it’s love than hell yeah that’s worth it. But that’s a lot rarer than people think. What we’re seeing are a lot of people are genuinely finding their own happiness and fulfillment outside of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 07:06 AM
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the launch of a new Eye Bags & Dark Circles cream from Remescar, the team undertook a survey as part of an ongoing study into lifestyle factors. 2,197 Britons aged 18 and over Dude that’s a paid survey from a skincare company . . 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:59 AM
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happily married couples are the happiest. They’re not. . also, speaking of debunked sources lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:53 AM
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Is it? I’ve come across those comments maybe twice? and I’m actively on the feminist subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:49 AM
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It makes total sense. Most of us have gone on countless dates with dudes who lied about liking all the things we liked just to get fake a connection and try to get sex. It was a waste of time and energy. A bad relationship is worse than ‘no relationship’, for a woman. For a man tho I guess ‘no relationship ‘is worse than a bad one. Every couple I know that got together in the last 3 years knew eachother from their social circle first, and then started dating later. It’s warm approaches. It’s lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:45 AM
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I’m a tall guy and i’ve implicitly received tall privilege my entire life and have also experienced second-hand heightism from women. That’s not even a logical deduction bro. A woman with big boobs definitley comes across guys who like big boobs frequently, does that mean that small boob preferences don’t exist? Of course not, that’d be an idiotic assumption. In reality a person’s most obvious trait is likely the main attractor for people approaching them. That goes for hair color, body shape, r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:40 AM
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That’s not where single women are dude. We’re just existing, enjoying our own lives. Hanging with our dogs and getting brunch with the girls. What you’re describing is probably right for a very specific type of partier who really like casual sex, more power to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:31 AM
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When you only read for data that fits the pre-existing narrative in your head of course you’re going to think you’re right. But no, “the data” does not show that. When you actually look at the breadth of research done all across this topic, the numbers are really underwhelming because normal people tend to like normal people. Some like tall, some like short. Some like skinny, some like chubby. Some like beard, some fucking hate beards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:27 AM
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But vibing isn’t the only box to check. The odds of finding someone you vibe with are decent, but the odds of them being single at the same time and looking for the same type of relationship as you is way less so. That’s why we celebrate people falling in love, because it’s pretty rare and wonderful when it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:21 AM
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Yes. For example, under your definition of “universally attractive traits” for women you’d probably put big boobs, right? But I’ve come across way more people that prefer smaller boobs, so yeah in my lived experience this “universally attractive” myth is bullshit. Everyone has their preferences, it runs the whole spectrum. Whats someone else’s yuck is another’s yum.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:18 AM
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Can’t speak for all women, but personally I quit OLD because dudes straight up lied about liking what I liked to get on a date and try to sleep with me. It was a waste of time and energy. I’d bet money that this is why the gender ratio for OLD is abysmal.. a select few that coincidentally bear similar traits. This isn’t true bro. It may feel like that from your perspective, but question your bias and recognize that you literally can’t read a whole society of women to know what’s going on in thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:04 AM
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No. Women literally weren’t their own legal person until about 70+ yrs ago. What basic dignity are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:53 AM
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Here’s a thought exercise. Think about your office/place-of-employment/job site. There’s probably a buddy that you crack jokes with to get through the day. There’s likely a couple people that bore you with their stories. Probably one person, at least, who really grinds your gears. This is to highlight how rare it is to find people you really jive with. Let’s pretend those workplace acquaintances are potential suitors. How many of them do you think are single? How many of them are interested in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:41 AM
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I would agree. It’s completely fair for a good man to feel misjudged. I would also hope a good man would empathize with the very real anxiety and fear that most women go through. There also is a point where you seem to externalize what’s really an internal situation for the woman. By taking personal offense to something that should have nothing to do with you. Again not saying his feelings aren’t valid, they are. But even those feelings aren’t aptly fixed by disregarding statements like “not all…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:32 AM
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I don’t think these two phrases are equivalent. The context of each of these feels drastically different imo. Not all men is a deflection to an active problem. If I say I’m afraid of some man as I’m walking home alone it’s not helpful to remind me that “not all men” are bad. That fact doesn’t change the reality that I am afraid in that moment. It doesn’t change the possibility that this man could be a really bad person. It certainly does nothing for the previous experiences I’ve had where the pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:28 AM
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lol what dress codes? In schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:36 PM
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Completely agree. From a historic lens tho, this is just the reaction of centuries of society telling us that men can’t even control their sexual urges. That non-accountability instills fear in everyone. When you’re taught to avoid and fear those sexual urges since you were a child, what do you expect? Dress codes, behavioral expectations, victim blaming- all of it boils down to “you knew what men are capable of, why were you so dumb?”. It’s totally misandrist. Men are full adult humans more tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 03:04 PM
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The male sexual urge is not respected by women or new society. It is shamed and frowned upon. When you’re taught to avoid and fear those sexual urges since you were a child, what do you expect? Dress codes, behavioral expectations, victim blaming- all of it boils down to “you knew what men are capable of, why were you so dumb?”. This is just the reaction of centuries of society telling us that men can’t even control their sexual urges. That non-accountability instills fear in everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:55 PM
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Vague come-ons warrant vague responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:47 PM
2

And the majority of average height women here tells you . . ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 12:32 AM
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I agree. I also don’t think I suggested otherwise in my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:53 PM
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is the often-cited claim that relationships are declining “because women are outpacing men and can’t find a suitable partner because of earning” actually false? You’re assuming factual analysis where emotional perception holds the power. It’s not about who makes more on paper. It’s about the perception of power in a relationship. I can’t speak for everyone, but as a college educated career driven woman a lot of men have zero interest in a woman who’s more educated or on a more ambitious trajecto…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:12 PM
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That’s a very specific historic example of othering. But yeah the base definition is the same; to view or treat (a person or group of people) as intrinsically different from and alien to oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:00 PM
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This endless sexual fantasy y’all have on Chad is getting disturbing at this point. . .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:37 PM
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Yup that’s those conservative values
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:06 PM
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How do they know you’re pretending? What? Because you know you said it seriously and you see them taking it as a joke. That’s the pretending that’s going on. Rather than a brutal turn down to what may or may not have been an actual flirty remark amidst an actually platonic encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:59 PM
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No. The women aren’t playing along with the flirting, if that’s what you misunderstood that sentence to mean. The women in the example posed by OP are hearing a friend say flirty things and then lightly brushing it off with “oh that’s so funny, haha but we’re friends”- because that’s a way of letting both the guy and the girl laugh along with each other rather than a more forceful shutdown like “ew I don’t like you at all” which leaves a very awkward interaction and a ruined friendship at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:51 PM
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That is clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:46 PM
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Why? A vague come-on warrants a vague response. Would you rather someone assume you’re flirting when you’re actually not and be forcefully turned down very vocally?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:45 PM
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Yes they are. But vague come-ons warrant a vague response.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:36 PM
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which is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:02 PM
2

5’4
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:42 PM
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Nope, average is 5’4.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:36 PM
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In this hypothetical tho he dated this girl “directly before you”. That’s not exactly “past is the past”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:11 PM
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What you’re describing is just called friendship. .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:40 PM
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a vague come-on deserves a vague response
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:34 PM
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Personally I’m looking for a partner with more maturity and intention than that, so this relationship wouldn’t go further. Frankly it wouldn’t have gotten to the three months mark in the first place lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:15 PM
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How? She swiped on the men she found desirable and then dated one of those desired men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:59 PM
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You’re the only one standing in the way of constructive dialogue here. For the sake of good faith, let’s ask again. Why do you consider the above commenters actions as “settling”?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:57 PM
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No that’s what you’re doing. I asked a specific question about why you classified the above commenters actions as settling and you straight up refused to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:51 PM
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just use language to interfere You mean communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:46 PM
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No. Explain how that’s settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:44 PM
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That’s not settling . .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:37 PM
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Maybe women aren’t a monolith?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:23 PM
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Most “nice guys” drop clear signs that they like you Most women drop clear signs that they don’t like them, most “nice guys” are too oblivious or delusional to take note. For example, if a woman reacts to your flirting by calling you her “friend” or pretending you’re joking, she does not like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:22 PM
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Exactly their point. It’s a shallow performance for most men. But it’s a genuine human emotional experience for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:19 PM
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but that romantic love is something that women will only have for a small proportion of men. Duh. Most people only experience romantic love once maybe twice in their life. That’s how humans mate. Are men really upset that we’re not walking around acting with romantic love to every random dude we see on the street?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:16 PM
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like how the majority of women dehumanize men as a daily routine in their lives? Could you provide some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:14 PM
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if men believed that women are barely capable of romantic love? This is a specific statement that is othering women and implying they’re subhuman to men. The implication is that men are fully capable of love while women are barely capable of it. It’s just another toxic rhetoric to add to the pile of othering bullshit that’s slung on this sub every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:04 PM
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It’s othering and alienating. Women are humans. Capable of the full spectrum of human emotions, same as men. There are psychos and assholes of all genders, those aren’t gender specific traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:48 AM
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Popularizer, yes. Advocate, yes. Pioneer, trailblazer, inventor, no. Back to my original fucking point. Men & women eradicated smallpox. Please lookup the definitions of cured and eradicate if you’re still confused! Your original comment included a blanket statement comparing men’s contributions vs women’s, it was inaccurate, it was petty and it was obviously not representative of your full thoughts as we clearly see you recognize the difficulties women had in scientific fields through the 18th,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:33 AM
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Do I actually have to explain to you why those two things are no way correlated? We could start by stating the obvious that a woman in 2024 is a legal person all unto themselves. Then I can add on that we’ve gained entrance into educational institutions since then. We also broke down those glass ceilings of getting published and earning professional awards. None of that was possible in the 18th century. Surely you recognize the distinct difference between those two realities of women in science …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:04 AM
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Women should just really get more of their own achievements and stop parading the same dozen corpses around. . . . 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:48 PM
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Well technically that just suggests that men on PPD are more likely to accept being fetishized. One could make a conjecture about a perceived level of desperation, but I won’t because that would likely be bullying in the eyes of the mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:46 PM
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Bro that’s not what “commit” means. Are you looking for the word “attempt”? Because yeah, I’ve read the studies and the data. Have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:31 PM
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That’s not what “stolen valor” means. But if you’re talking about the centuries of uncredited work done by women, yeah that sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:28 PM
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Exactly. Men & women eradicated smallpox
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:24 PM
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then how come women commit suicide more often? they don’t . .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:22 PM
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While women were protesting the gender pay gap for the same work, men have eradicated smallpox. Men & women eradicated smallpox - just saying. How Mary Wortley Montagu’s bold experiment led to smallpox vaccine – 75 years before Jenner Empress of Immunization: How Catherine the Great Revolutionized Public Health
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:03 PM
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It doesn’t anymore, though. Uh no, we still do. Anyways, I wasn’t trying to contradict your comment, I was simply adding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:58 PM
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I mean the same can be said for any minority group that’s had to fight for themselves. It’s how the civil rights movement happened. Or why the LGBTQ+ community still stands together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:19 PM
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Sure, for understanding our history. But what we value now and how we choose to go forward aren’t dictated by that. Humankind has developed communication, science, technology, all coinciding with our evolution far past the cave man days. What is a fine explanation for how we got here is a shitty excuse to stay stuck here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:17 PM
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They will say anything to get a chance for sex. Lying about their intentions, their interests, their personality. All of it’s deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:10 PM
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Again not in my experience. but you enjoy that perspective of yours!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:11 PM
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Everyone in PPD knows this Nope, most of us aren’t that susceptible to rage bait lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:48 PM
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I see the exact opposite lol. Especially on this sub, dudes preaching to other dudes to lie at all costs just to get her in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:45 PM
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Do you mean partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:17 PM
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Exactly. By your logic men oppressed women for as long as they could until it became a financial and political liability for themselves, only then did they cede to women’s advocacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:52 PM
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I think we’re conflating casual sex with romantic dating. Those are two different things lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:28 PM
2

So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:52 PM
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Based on the guys here, y’all will intentionally lie and say anything just to get laid. But hey maybe your definition of honesty involves deception 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:31 PM
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Is the same not true for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:22 PM
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Sure. But a bad relationship is absolutely worse than no relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:34 PM
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You’re literally making up strawmen at this point. If you don’t want to engage in a good faith conversation, then stop replying on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:05 PM
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You asked why people aren’t settling down in their 20s. So I explained why most people aren’t settling down in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:59 PM
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Or they just won’t become moms. Either way, a harmonious household with one loving parent is better than a volatile household with two parents that hate each other. And a person that intentionally becomes a parent will provide a happier life than someone who has no real desire to be a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:50 PM
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Do you? Yes. Do you? Or are you just trying to avoid any kind of nuanced discussion by accusing anyone who doesn’t agree with you on everything of being a rapist? No one’s suggesting rape. wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:45 PM
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Because people are waiting for the uniquely compatible person to spend their life with. . Most people are not waiting around for “any willing participant”. Incompatibility adds stress and anguish to your life, it makes marriage and childcare 10x more difficult. Why would you sign up for all that work for someone you don’t actually like?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:40 PM
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It it is show women work which is what my point was. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:36 PM
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gotta love this sub’s sudden inability to read the room. So you just have no idea what that term means or how to use it, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:26 PM
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I bet a hot guy magically always reads the room. No. That’s not how social cues work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:21 PM
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A sign of romantic interest, maybe. Not a sexual signal. Being in a room is just that, being in a room. How they’re sharing physical space..If they’re in close proximity.. if she’s closing the space by touching his arm.. all of those are sexual signals. Existing in a room, is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:05 PM
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It’s not. Do you get how consent works? Being in a room with a person is not a sexual cue. Sexual cues could include how close she’s sitting next to you in this big open room. If she’s touching your arm or letting her leg touch your leg. If she’s tousling her hair and making eyes at you. Lots of things are sexual cues, but being in a room with someone is not. Otherwise every guy friend you have over is also trying to fuck you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:01 PM
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Cool, that doesn’t mean you understand social cues lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:59 AM
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I don’t think you understand social cues . .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:49 AM
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Being inside an apartment is not a sexual cue. I’m not sure you get what “reading the room” means.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:44 AM
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I can’t tell if you’re being satirical or just obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:46 AM
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This of course implies traditional male gender roles are still valid. To some people, yes. That’s exactly what I said. You’re lumping two different groups of people together and are confused why the two distinct opinions don’t make sense. Zoom out, look at the big picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:49 AM
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Eh, it sounds like an efficient way to weed out incompatible people. Some people are an ice cream first date kinda people, others aren’t. No judgement either way, it’s just a difference in priorities and values and honestly the quicker you figure that out the less time and energy wasted on both of your parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:47 AM
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It seems like you’re complaining about two vastly different statements from two very different groups of people. Those that want an equitable relationship don’t idealize those archaic gender roles. Those that want a more conservative traditional marriage obviously want those traditional gender roles. Basically every couple I know falls more in the equitable side of the spectrum. Both work, because two incomes is a necessity in this economy, so they split their expenses, savings, domestic respons…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:44 AM
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There are no successful people with autism or ADHD, anywhere. Ever use a telephone? Had an iPod? Thought about buying a Tesla? Known someone who’s had chemotherapy? Seen one of those E = mc2 posters in a science classroom? Might want to do an ounce of research before you risk looking like a complete dumbass in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:25 PM
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Yeah, that’s not how that works lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:08 PM
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As an autistic person myself, I urge you to take those numbers with a grain of salt. For one thing the data cites “full time employment”, not simply the ability to work as you unintentionally cited. Secondly, those numbers are also limited by the registration as a disabled individual by the government, ie. are you on disability. Lots of autistic people, myself included, don’t reach the “low functioning” threshold for autism to qualify for such benefits so we’re rarely counted in those stats desp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:57 PM
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To me, no, it’s no big deal. But admittedly I prefer sex within relationships, where there’s a given expectation of flexibility and understanding built into the sexual encounter. It might be different for people only interested in casual sex or hookups. Though I’ve heard good things about the “let me go down on you while I take a moment” technique, helps keep her pleasure active and lets you take the time you need to get back in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:43 PM
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We’re confusing the left and right dynamic with authoritarian and liberal We’re not confusing anything, they’ve just change over time to represent different things. Kind of like how in the Civil War it was the Democrats that seceded from the Union and established the Confederate States. In this modern day Democrats are the party for individual liberties and Republicans are the ones for extreme government legislation, look at reproductive rights, book bans, don’t say gay legislature. There was a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:30 PM
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Actually no, I disagree deeply. Most of the greatest minds of arts, technology, academia, science, were neurodivergent. Personally I am a gifted intellectual precisely because my mind works differently than most, I am capable of immense multi-dimensional processing that’s helped me find patterns, explore correlations, and build upon what’s already existing to make it better. That is possible because I am autistic. Now I’m not painting a portrait that it’s a cakewalk for everyone, it’s certainly …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:22 PM
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Yes, exactly why I’m suggesting that we’re likely going to see more of the next few generations stay democrats into their old age. Because they’ve seen how conservative policy empowers big corporations. Democracy depends on a democratic process by the people for the people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:12 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:58 PM
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Incomes will increase or property values are going to drop, you know. Yeah that still hasn’t happened for Millenials, and they’re in their 40s. It’s not looking great for Gen Z either. Someone has to buy the houses when the old people die. Who else will do it? Corporations are buying them all up, that’s why we have a surplus of empty houses & rent rising at exorbitant amounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:51 PM
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Then why are most Christians women? Are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:48 PM
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That’s not really accurate though. Sure they want that for their personal lives, but they largely advocate for freedom and rights and believe a lot of those things shouldn’t be politically motivated or legislated. Yeah I may drink less and party less, but that doesn’t mean we want to bring back prohibition. See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:45 PM
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I don’t disagree with this per se. But I do think the younger generations would need wealth in the first place, to then become stingy and economically conservative as they age. Given the current economic dynamics I don’t see that happening to the majority of them, at least not in comparative trends as happened in previous generations. If you can’t afford a house, then why would you care about property taxes, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:38 PM
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Assuming your perspective is the “right one” is a sign of emotional immaturity, often accompanied by lower intelligence. Additionally, to assume you’re more intelligent than the women in your life simply because you’re a man is silly at best and harmfully ignorant at worst. Using terms like “alpha” and “beta” is weak. It says you lack the self-assurance to define yourself as an individual, rather you estimate your value only in relation to everyone else around you. Stand up for yourself and be y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:36 PM
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Fair. They also were largely Christian & Heterosexual, which are two biggest signifiers of conservative/liberal leanings. The same is not true for younger generations now. They’re more about freedom of expression and independent choice, rather than some traditional values everyone should live according to the law LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:28 PM
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Probably the “quirky” kind. Hate to break it to you, but that’s not actually a medical or scientific term used for Autism Spectrum Disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:22 PM
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These women are far from being shy. What? It’s not about being shy. It’s about what’s worth your time and energy. When you’re young you take more risks as you grow older you’re more reserved and self-assured in your choices. That has nothing to do with social energy or shyness lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:20 PM
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I am autistic. I am very aware of the wide and diverse spectrum of autism as a disorder. Much more than you seem to be lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:17 PM
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Conservatives don’t just produce more conservatives. For example, look that the political leanings of Texas by age demographic. Oldest generations are conservative, Millenials/Gen Z/Alpha are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:15 PM
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and the only times I got approached was by very young women (talking late gen Z here). This never happens with women my age (30+), even if they’re singles on a “manhunt”. Or younger women are just more likely to cold approach. .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:10 PM
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Are you confusing Autism for Down’s Syndrome?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:07 PM
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And his mom was 22 when she had him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:04 PM
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Believe me I know, I am autistic and have adhd. But I honestly don’t think people like OP can spot the difference between chromosomal disorders, developmental disorders or learning disabilities. Much less understand the very wide and diverse spectrum we all exist on. I think a lot of neurotypical people assume that most of us are non-verbal and low functioning. We’re not. Or that non-verbal automatically means low-functioning, it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:44 PM
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Who will be paying for that? Do you not understand how taxes work?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:39 PM
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I genuinely wonder if people like OP have any real idea of what autistic people are actually like and capable of . . . Edit: I am autistic myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:15 PM
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In the past, you raised kids together and split the chores. That’s not accurate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:39 PM
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Eh no, it does call into question if you’re falling for rage bait online by red pillers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:17 PM
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The only one I’ve ever seen doing that shit on this sub turned out to be a male red pillers alt account.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:01 PM
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Why do women think having big boobs or ass preferences means a man has pornfried his brain? Because you’d ask your partner to undergo literal surgery to fit your ideal body type . .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 09:19 AM
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Because their orgasm is guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:57 AM
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Yeah that gap is the orgasm gap. Imagine taking more of a risk and getting no orgasm as a result? It doesn’t make sense, you’d also just stay home and masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:18 AM
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Youre a fool. You’re
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:10 AM
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Hon you’re the only one here thinking sex is wrong 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:04 AM
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Did you read the data at all? Less than 20% of women can achieve vaginal orgasm, without clitoral stimulation. So yeah out of that 18% of women, lots of those women prefer a bigger dick. Do you see how nonsensical your assumptions are? None of this based in fact, you’re just taking presumptions of other people and assuming you’re correct even though you have no data or experience to actually back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:57 AM
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It’s not about disappointing her, it’s about putting yourself first. Have some value in yourself, and don’t be a doormat. Framing this as some action you’re doing to her is kinda sad and really defeats the whole point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:55 AM
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Dude penis size has literally no correlation to orgasm. But really nice try hon. We all believe you, big dick energy that’s definitely what you’re exuding in these comments lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:51 AM
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How tho? A dead bedroom means they once had a lively bedroom. So at one point they were having regular sex. So how’s that possible if those women aren’t attracted to 95% of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:43 AM
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All women experience spontaneous desire for hot men. No, they don’t. Yes I had sex in college. So no, not enough to have any practical understanding of how our anatomy and pleasure works. Stop trying to mansplain female sexual desire, it’s just getting pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:42 AM
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Dead bedrooms are caused primarily by the orgasm gap. Why should a woman have her body used without any pleasure in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:38 AM
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Not accurate. A small percentage of women do experience spontaneous desire. The majority of women experience responsive desire, which is not instantaneous or visual at all. Now’s the point in our discussion where I must ask if you’ve had sex with women to have any actual understanding of how our anatomy and pleasure works? Because it really seems like you’ve read some red-pill Reddit comments and are trusting those as your info on people with a vagina. Gotta say dude, it’s not a cute look.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:36 AM
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That’s because impulsivity is linked to testosterone. As those studies clearly explain. So you agree? Women don’t experience spontaneous desire like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:30 AM
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Women don’t experience spontaneous attraction like men do. You’re assuming a male perspective on women and it’s setting you up for failure. Men are visual creatures. Women are more intuitive and respond to overall behaviors, social interactions, and connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:26 AM
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That’s completely incorrect. Try googling responsive desire and maybe reading a link or two. You’d be amazed what you’d learn that would actually help you on your endless quest for women 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:20 AM
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It’s responsive desire vs your spontaneous desire. Ironically tho us women are just wishing more guys had our libido and stamina so a sexual encounter could last longer than 8 minutes. But sure, go on defining libido by ignoring endurance lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:16 AM
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Are you religious by chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:11 AM
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Then why do women initiate most divorces, cause most dead bedrooms, and also lack libidos as an entire group? Because of bad sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:11 AM
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Its probably men buying them It’s not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:06 AM
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Women desire sex. They just may not desire sex with just anyone. Let me explain. Bad sex is worse than no sex for a woman. Bad sex is better than no sex for a man. Look at the anatomy and recognize that our default societal definition of sex as penis-vagina penetration engages the pleasure nerves of male genitalia, at the tip of the penis, but doesn’t engage the pleasure nerves of female genitalia, the clit and the labial folds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 01:05 AM
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If it’s an event you go to specifically to chat and interact with other people, then yes they want to chat & interact with people. That’s the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:06 AM
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Why exactly would that make their brains “defective”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:04 AM
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Women generally do not experience spontaneous desire the way men do We don’t see a jawline and pop a boner, because most of us don’t have a penis, and that’s not how vaginas work
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:57 AM
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Notice the word “generally”? Generally women don’t experience spontaneous sexual desire. There are some women that do, but that’s not a majority. You also have to consider the female menstrual cycle, when we’re ovulating our body is naturally producing those sexy chemicals that trigger a sexual response more easily. It’s why our masturbatory activities increase certain weeks of the month. That’s why I used the spaghetti analogy. If you’re already hungry and you see a plate of spaghetti you’re li…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:52 AM
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Community gatherings, social parties, networking events, afterhours work get-togethers. Any place or event you go to specifically to chat and interact with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:48 AM
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Generally there’s no emotional reaction the existence of a jaw or the presence of abs. For most women that is not enough to signal attraction or interest. Think about it, men see a pretty face or a pair of boobs and can get a hard on, right? That’s not how the sexual system works on a woman. In general it takes up to 30 minutes of foreplay to get a woman turned on. It relies on social cues, behavioral interactions, and conversational cues to get her there. It’s like seeing a plate of spaghetti, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:46 AM
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Now you’re just assuming actions in bad faith. It’s not an excuse, it’s a reality I’ve made the first move on every relationship I’ve been in. You seem to have missed the part about “warm approach” vs “cold approach”. As I, like most women, don’t experience spontaneous desire, seeing a random stranger does nothing to spark a desire to get to know them more. But in social settings, in group dynamics, going about life in platonic social settings, when we feel a spark for someone we’re interacting …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:37 AM
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No, not a glacial pace. But they do prioritize other cues first. That’s why people say “men are visual creatures”. Whereas women make more intuitive judgements on a combination of sensory details, largely focusing on behavior, social interaction, and emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:28 AM
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Like the zero evidence you’ve provided for all of this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:23 AM
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Humans have eyes yes. The brains which perceive and interpret the data have different methods of processing, but seeing as you’re confused by basic anatomy delving into neuroscience isn’t going to make much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:23 AM
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How many times do I have to explain that visual cues are not judged first from women, or people, that experience responsive attraction? What are you not understanding about this very simple concept? Please explain to me your confusion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:19 AM
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a woman has never slept with a man she found physically repellent because he was funny This literally happens all the time. If a guy’s humor and personality are great then she sees him through rose colored glasses and finds him attractive. All of us have dated and slept with guys we look back and recognize were not attractive because we were caught up in the conversation and chemistry lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:18 AM
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Please go read up on spontaneous vs responsive attraction. It’s evidently clear that you do not understand these terms or these topics at large, and from a foundational misunderstanding are engaging in this conversation in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:11 AM
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No, that’s not what I said at all. I’m correcting your assumption of the order. Responsive attraction means it takes time to develop an opinion, usually in conjunction with behaviors, social cues, chemistry in an interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:09 AM
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Only when you experience spontaneous attraction, which is visual. Women don’t experience that, (with the few rare exceptions)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:05 AM
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Great, so why do you think a physical threshold is met first before the romantic attraction is met? Because where I’m sitting, that’s assuming a pattern of spontaneous attraction on everyone, when we know that’s not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:03 AM
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It’s your statement. Why don’t you define the difference and defend your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:59 AM
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also why dont you use this in other factors too it only applies when you want benefit thats not how it should work What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:58 AM
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By stating that romantic attraction comes after physical attraction, or even simultaneously. That’s assuming a level of spontaneous visual attraction that doesn’t happen for a majority of people, specifically women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:57 AM
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Well. . all of them, in my opinion. P1: Romantic attraction stipulates that the physical attraction threshold has been reached. P2: Sexual attraction is predicated on passing a physical threshold wholly reliant on physical appearance. P3: Competences that allow for communication and interaction do not change the outward appearance of your physical characteristics. P4: Sexual relationships require physical attraction, and romantic relationships require physical and romantic attraction. C1: Social…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:49 AM
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You’re assuming everyone experiences spontaneous attraction. While that’s generally true for men, women largely experience responsive desire instead, in which social interaction does actually matter in the attraction equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:45 AM
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I genuinely don’t think you get it. I will never see a person on the street and think “oh wow I want to go and ask them for their number” because seeing someone on the street does not give me any impulse, inclination, or desire to get to know someone more. That’s how most women are. We don’t experience that spontaneous desire, so what purpose would we have to randomly approach people and bother them as they’re going about their day?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:33 AM
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Men and women aren’t that different. To be clear, individuals are distinctly different, but that’s a person to person thing, rather than a gendered thing. As a bi-woman I know who I am and how I show up in a relationship and I need someone who’s compatible with that. It’s not about fitting antiquated gender roles, it’s about finding the right person for you. Finding the right fit for the journey of life you’re on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:31 AM
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Or women are finally in the drivers seat, and are opting a different destination than romantic fulfillment. Our time and energy is limited, there’s a lot more uses of my time that have a guaranteed happiness/fulfillment ratio than wasting countless hours a week on bad first dates and shitty chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:26 AM
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i got the spontaneous desire vs responsive desire basically since women can pregnant once so ofc they have to choose carefully Yeah, that’s not spontaneous vs responsive desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:22 AM
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No. Remember earlier when I said it’s spontaneous desire vs responsive desire? Well women generally experience responsive desire. So yes attraction does occur, but it’s not spontaneous or instant based purely off visuals, like what men experience. You’re projecting a male experience onto women, and that’s why it’s not making sense. Try and recognize how women experience desire, and you’ll better understand how women do approach and make the first moves. It’s just warm approaches, not cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:02 PM
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Oh are you a psychiatrist? Surely you must have some medical expertise to make such bold claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:20 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:07 PM
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but still i think women should approach a bit more i understand rejection is hard That makes no sense. Seeing a stranger on the street does nothing for most women. There’s no impulse or desire to go and bother him and ask him for his number. If you’re not hungry you don’t eat. If you’re not thirsty you don’t drink. If you’re not spontaneously attracted you have zero reasons to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:01 PM
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I never said men and women are the same. Just that your claim that men have less power of their bodies is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:29 AM
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Let me rephrase, women have even more power over their bodies. Men have the same power over their bodies. If you don’t, then that really seems like a personal issue to take up with a behavioral doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:57 AM
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How do you define SSRI “abuse”?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:48 PM
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If they live longer then they pay taxes longer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:31 PM
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It’s spontaneous vs responsive desire. That’s the disproportion you’re noticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:29 PM
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If they live longer than they pay taxes longer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:12 PM
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Fertility rates aren’t dropping. Birth rates are. Those two are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:02 PM
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Homeless shelters aren’t government programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:01 PM
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We do. We also don’t experience spontaneous desire the way men do. Seeing a guy on the street isn’t enough to make me want to go bother him and ask him for his number. But if we’re in a social setting, if I get to know his personality and energy a bit, then yes I absolutely do make the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:58 PM
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I can say the exact same thing hon. I know that you don’t believe it but that isn’t a prerequisite for it to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:54 PM
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Yeah. Because it’s totally not possible that some purple pill man may not be the foremost expert on feminism 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:27 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:17 AM
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Well it’s women that think they are above average not men that think women think they are. It’s not though. As I’ve tried telling you countless times.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:08 AM
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...while in the same comment affirming Genghis Khan employed legitimate means of sexual reproduction. So no, not a feminist lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:55 PM
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you can literally not even come close to even seeing it unless you are forced to be single specifically as a man. You do realize you’re standing there as a man trying to explain to me, a woman, what goes on in a woman’s mind. Do you see the irony here? The difference is I’m not telling you what it’s like as a man, at all. I am specifically telling you what it’s like as a woman. That I am uniquely qualified to do, especially in comparison to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:53 PM
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that men have to compete just to be given basic respect or taken seriously. Isn’t that what toxic masculinity is about? Isn’t that just capitalism? I don’t really see how that competition is a uniquely gendered experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:48 PM
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Is that woman a feminist? (Genuinely asking, I read through a bit of that comment thread and didn’t see any comments identifying her as such but I may have missed it.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:42 PM
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I’ve seen this on this subreddit twice Like two comments in total?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:38 PM
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That’s just not true. I get that you feel that way, but I think you’re stuck in an emotional response and aren’t seeing reality clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:37 PM
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What is there to counter? I asked what’s forcing men to raise kids that aren’t theirs. You didn’t provide any examples of real-life systems that force these men to raise kids that aren’t theirs. That’s the end of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:29 PM
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Any examples of feminists saying shit like this? in the state of nature, male lions have to fight each other in order to breed. So it’s natural that dating for men today is hard and some can’t compete. I’m pretty well read on feminist forums and I can’t say I’ve ever come across this viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:27 PM
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You literally cited an opinion piece from 2002 as if it’s a credible source. You’re right, that is hilarious. Sorry for taking you seriously, didn’t catch the satire in your previous comments!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:23 PM
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It’s not about perfection. It’s about connection & compatibility. Relationships that don’t fit right are a drain on both people. They drain energy, time, resources, and they limit who you are as a person now and who you want to be in the future. Now with the right person who’s going the same direction as you at the same speed, relationships can be wonderful and strengthening and supportive. But a lot of people are recognizing that your average relationship is not that. It’s a lot of work at the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:21 PM
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I’m not being condescending. I’m just southern 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:15 PM
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No. It just means that for the average woman the wrong relationship is worse than no relationship. Let’s make relationships more equitable and empower men to step up in their relationships. That’d be a much better use of our time than complaining how women nowadays have healthy boundaries and standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:13 PM
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Do you have any sources that aren’t over a decade old?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:38 PM
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Agreed 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:37 PM
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Women have that same desire to partner up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:28 AM
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Reorganized my answer putting challenge statement first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:12 AM
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The answer is taxes, hon. You’re not anti-taxes, you just want working class people to pay less/no taxes and make corporations and big business pay more in taxes. Vote blue if that’s the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:08 AM
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Do you understand how debt and capital work? How exactly would a corporations debt and/or capital get into the hands of the government to provide for our society?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:01 AM
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That’s not what I asked hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:58 AM
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I’m reading the same comments you are, yet 99% are not “adamant about normalizing paternal fraud.” like you so claim. Why are you making shit up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:57 AM
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I’d argue the couple should split abortion or pregnancy costs, and then upon birth of child can legally terminate parental rights in court. Legal financial abortion from the moment of birth, as long as that terminates any parental rights and familial contact from that moment onward. Lots of states have that, and I fully support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:56 AM
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Literally what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:51 AM
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I’m fine pretending that those Christians are pro-life. But there’s zero reason to assume the rest of the data is representative of pro-choice people like you so claim. Bad faith is what you’re doing here. Making up facts and then backing it up with irrelevant data. Don’t make false claims. Don’t cite sources that don’t actually validate those claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:42 AM
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responsibility of corporations and government to get off their lazy butts and start contributing to society in a meaningful way How do you think we get that money from those corporations? Because rn the only avenue for that is taxes, but you just abolished them. So what now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:41 AM
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This source does not back up your previous claim. pro life people adopt at higher rates then pro choice people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:36 AM
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That’s demonstrably false.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:16 AM
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is not like a man has any sort of protections or rights if he finds out he fathered an ilegitimal child under fraudulent circumstances Except he absolutely does. That’s fraud which has criminal implications if finances or insurance was involved. Also it’s an easy civil suit for finances + emotional damages. Where are you getting the idea that there’s no legal repercussions to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:51 AM
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Pro-life is just Pro-Birth. They don’t give a shit after the baby’s born. Who exactly is advocating for forcing men to raise kids that aren’t theirs? Last time I checked paternity tests are 100% legal and widely used throughout society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:38 AM
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Cruelty isn’t his issue lol. Honesty without reality is just delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:38 AM
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They want to appear more levelheaded and logical despite being emotional drama queens
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:28 AM
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It is as false as the original comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:27 AM
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Notice I said “more men” should, because yes- lots of men already are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:21 AM
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Dating sucks for women men only because they fall for ridiculous propaganda, have wrong values and dont appreciate good behavior. They have only themselves to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:09 AM
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I refuse to stay silent when I see bad advice. Same. You’re giving really shitty advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:06 AM
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Then why have women been online for years asking men to stop approaching us in public?? If we truly enjoyed rejecting men as you seem to think we do, why would we try so hard to stop that sort of behavior? Your logic makes no sense. It’s not grounded in any reality hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:04 AM
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The reason it makes things unbalanced is men are naturally forced to want to partner with women What exactly forcing men? and why is it still happening? and why are women no longer forced?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:03 AM
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women have to reject men to get a dopamine hit Dude. There’s way easier and more effective ways to get a dopamine hit. If your “theory” were even close to accurate dating apps would have at least 50/50 women/men just so we could “reject men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:00 AM
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A woman may not value her time and energy and I will value those anyways Exactly. You need to raise your standards. You set the energy for what you’re worth and how you’ll be treated. If you beg for table scraps then you’re stuck with table scraps. Which is fine, do whatever makes you happy. But if you’re happy, why are you complaining about it online?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:57 PM
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No they’re very clearing doing just fine on that with their current strategy. It’s pretty simple, if you don’t value your time and energy why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:49 PM
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What’s with the suffering Olympics? The dating market sucks, period. 3rd spaces are dead . . social interaction is down . . romantic connections are freaking hard to come by. More women are just opting out of the hassle to enjoy their life solo, find their own happiness and fulfillment in life. Maybe more men should too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:47 PM
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Unless you are a woman. Then you can be all of that and still remain a desireable partner. Sounds like men need to raise their standards then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:38 PM
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How is it not fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:36 PM
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That data has been disproven countless times dude. It is not a standing scientific source as much as the Christian church would love it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:09 PM
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It’s not weighted against men tho. For the first time in centuries it’s finally evenly weighted. That’s what you have an issue with dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:08 PM
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Not even close to being universally true 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:01 PM
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Either women are wired to be in a monogamous relationship. Or they’re wired to be single. Make up your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:43 PM
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100% this OP thinks a girlfriend will solve his depression, get him a promotion, and make him see rainbows and butterflies everyday- magically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:30 PM
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No it wouldn’t. One is taking away someone’s freedom. The other is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:26 PM
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Do you think women were born happily single? No we went to therapy, and put in the work to find fulfillment and self worth and happiness. It took intentional effort to reach this point. Effort that men are equally capable of putting in to achieve the exact same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:11 PM
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Your second paragraph contradicts your first. You’ve listed several valid reasons why women withhold their sexual urges, prioritizing their health, safety, and peace of mind. That would indicate a drive for sexual release, which directly counters your first sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:08 PM
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No the distinct difference between those two are independence and freedom. You’re given independence and freedom by default. But it seems like you’d rather women not have that, rather than men actually do the inner self-work to find happiness and mental wellness for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:05 PM
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That’s why for most of the past it was more fair and sustainable dating environment. For men . . . at the literal expense and exploitation of women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:43 PM
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I would posit that men are look down on significantly more for being single by society as a whole While I totally get your points and do agree with most of your comment, this specific thing stuck out to me as being BS. Women for all of history have been defined by our ability and success in reproducing. To this day in 2024 we are still judged for not being married, for not having kids and for not fulfilling our purpose on this earth. Politically, socially, professionally. I’m not saying single m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:38 PM
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It’s fair because men are punished for not pairing up. how?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:35 PM
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I see most women saying they’d only enter a relationship that betters their life do you not think that’s what’s happening? Yes we’re saying that- as single women. Because that is the very reason we’re not dating or entering into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:33 PM
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So maybe men should start embracing women’s values and leaning into political compatibility. Or just enjoy their independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:32 PM
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It is 100% biologically possible. Your brain needs feel good chemicals: serotonin, oxytocin, dopamine, and endorphins. While those can come from romantic or sexual relationships, those are often the least effective and least reliable sources of such chemicals. Happy and healthy people lead balanced lives making sure their cups are full and their self-worth is high, whether or not they’re in a relationship. If you don’t believe that, then you’re in for a rude awakening when you finally get in a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:26 PM
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We have that right now I don’t think we do. .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:10 PM
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Why not men find fulfillment and happiness in their life regardless of their relationship status? Tons of men actively do that already. Or as other commenters have aptly pointed out, normalize relationships being about lightening the load. If women’s lives were largely easier in relationships, and didn’t come with excess work and a man child, likely more women would be happier in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:08 PM
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Alt girls are progressive for sure. Gamer girls are progressive/libertarian. I have never met a conservative woman whose hobbies include gaming, and I live in a red state. Also, country =\= conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:17 AM
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The women complaining about video games are not the ones complaining about gender roles lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:04 AM
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i see a lot of negativities about female nature in Pill spaces Why don’t you break down those fallacies with the men spouting them? Your post doesn’t make a ton of sense here geared for just women..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:05 PM
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Women are so judgemental. lower your standards & date obese women pot calling kettle?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:26 PM
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Also, you’re talking about vacation goggles. But generally that’s not dating up, that’s dating down. The usual parameters that matter irl dating don’t matter for a vacation fling, so you’ll find women disregarding occupation, income, political leanings, as well as visual preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:19 PM
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Sure, I’ve considered that. Then I compared a reasonable data set of average women across society to OPs data of working at a ski resort, and aptly recognized that his observed experience is only relevant to a hyper-specific socioeconomic background, if even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:17 PM
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Modern individualist society is obfuscating that fact. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:41 PM
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Glad to see women like you exist. Dude this commenter isn’t some rare unicorn. Women in general are multidimensional humans, just like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:16 PM
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Yes. Women are as capable/creative/decent/interesting as men. TL;DR: How do you counter negative approaches about female nature and can women be as good as men? You can’t convince people that don’t value you that you have value. So I fill my life with people not like that . . obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:37 PM
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Have you considered that your observed experience of singles on vacation isn’t universally representative of actual women in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:34 PM
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a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:36 PM
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Yes. But this is a fairly sexist sub in general, so it comes with the territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:08 PM
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it’s because women aren’t into sex to the extent that men are on an innate level. completely incorrect + hilariously ignorant 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:28 PM
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I have used dating apps. Previously. I don’t anymore, nor do any women I know because as you aptly pointed out, they don’t lead to high quality connections nor good sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:25 PM
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That is just seen as a high quality male. To other men, sure. To other promiscuous people, sure. Otherwise, no lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:22 PM
3

Bullshit. What is your hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:21 PM
3

It is so weird how you conflate women’s sexuality to “hookers” and “sluts” and yet the same behavior is just “men being men”. Almost like both men & women enjoy promiscuous behavior . . while other men & women don’t enjoy that promiscuous behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:58 PM
2

not a single female like me but plenty of dudes So you’ve polled all women across the globe? Damn that must’ve taken some time + energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:53 PM
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No. They aren’t paid professionally for sex, what an odd question. They’re just average people whose sole objective just isn’t marriage & kids like you so prescriptively assign to everyone lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:51 PM
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Females: 1. Find a high quality partner and raise children with him The number of women I know that contradicts this “biological truth” is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:47 PM
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females always felt like some kind of alienish unrelatable things because they are really that different from me. They’re not. But also try calling us women and maybe you’ll have better luck relating to us as fellow humans 🙈
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:45 PM
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I wasn’t. I was citing published statistics on the gender ratio of dating apps. I was also giving the perspective of women who experience responsive desire and struggle with the orgasm gap. Seeing as you have no awareness of either of those, maybe refrain from commenting on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:35 PM
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Why would I be able to enlighten you on that? I don’t know any women that are on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:27 PM
0

Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:26 PM
3

Men and women are wired similarly, but society has raised us to behave and think extremely differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:54 PM
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For some people maybe. But personally it’s a red flag as that’s the sort of relationship I’m looking to build, one of shared values and compatible ambition. I also find men that don’t care about your “career, income or status” are much more prone to expect a stay-at-home partner which leads to unequal distribution of domestic labor. (Not every man of course, I’ve just noticed a pattern of correlation personally)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:50 PM
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Only they don’t. Which is why dating apps are like 9:1 male/female. Also why men here complain about not finding dates or relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:42 PM
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This happens anytime I disclose I’m not hetero lol. These guys truly can’t grasp that 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:41 PM
0

Verbal/social/mental power All of which men have as well
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:40 PM
3

Yes. That goes for men & women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:39 PM
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I’m trying to engage in good faith dude, but your points aren’t making much sense. You started your comments by pointing out that the 50/50 gender ratio isn’t optimal, then you moved the goal posts to we’re just not behaving optimally, and now you’re trying to make the argument that more men than women want relationships, I think? Which is an odd claim and a disjointed departure from where we started.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:38 AM
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I just wish I could get women based soley on my personality and not just looks. Welcome to the club. That’s a universal experience, doesn’t matter our gender lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:34 AM
1

But it’s not 100% of men that want a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:29 AM
1

How do you suppose changing the gender ratio would effect that at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:23 AM
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You can’t talk equal content without equal pleasure. The reason women are more content going without sex is because sex generally isn’t that pleasurable or satisfying for the woman. It’s literally more headache for less reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:22 AM
1

You’re still assuming the objective is for everyone to find a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:11 AM
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You’re assuming the objective is for everyone to find an equivalent mate. That’s quite contrary to natural selection and would be pretty bad for overpopulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:08 AM
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Shall I define the word spontaneous for you? Also, I used the words “generally” “most” and “usually” purposefully because while majority of women experience responsive desire, a minority of women do experience spontaneous desire. Same as for men, while the majority experiences spontaneous desire there is a minority of men that experience responsive desire. That majority of women explains why there’s more men than women on dating apps, and that minority of women explains why the ratio is some 9 m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:07 AM
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within 30 mins of meeting her at a club That’s not spontaneous attraction. You’re helping prove my point with great examples of responsive attraction . . .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:53 AM
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How are they not “acting optimally”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:49 AM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:45 AM
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Yes. You’ve just cracked why dating apps have like a 9:1 male:female ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:40 AM
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Agreed. Men also cheat in both healthy & toxic relationships in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:39 AM
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See that’s the issue here. Generally women don’t experience spontaneous attraction like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:37 AM
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It does if there are no more optimum alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:32 AM
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Does finding someone “attractive” mean being sexually attracted to them, in this question? Because attractive can also be simply synonymous with good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:27 AM
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Toxic people crave toxic people. No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:23 AM
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No, I said people in general relate to people that share a similar life experience. Also don’t worry, I am taking a stance, I’m standing up as a bisexual and giving you my honest answers. Those answers just don’t seem to fit the narrative you’re trying to chase here . .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:08 AM
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I mean would men still last 8 minutes on average, if so women would still largely be unsatisfied by sexual encounters . .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:50 PM
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Does finding someone “attractive” mean being sexually attracted to them in this question? Because attractive can also be simply synonymous with good-looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:47 PM
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What power are women flexing exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:30 PM
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No. I don’t think wlw are easier or more difficult than hetero relationships. Any perceived “ease” likely comes down to the natural empathy you have with someone who shares your life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:24 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:08 PM
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No. I’m interested in long term monogamy, so I’m looking for a specific type of person that’s compatible with my life and personality, but I’m totally open on their gender identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:54 PM
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This is what I was wondering as well. .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:48 PM
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Nope.. definitely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:42 PM
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No. Relationships are as good as the connection & compatibility of the two people in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:38 PM
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No? What do you mean by “pure”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:34 PM
6

Maybe date less dramatic people? This definitely isn’t characteristic of most women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:28 PM
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Bisexual woman here. No, I’m not exclusively dating women. No I don’t fantasize about a purely female/female society, that’d be nonsensical. My ideal relationship is the same, I’m just open to finding the right person regardless of their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:13 PM
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As a bisexual woman I haven’t narrowed my focus to only women, if that’s what you’re asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:55 PM
0

Because of the many issues our world is currently facing, none of them seem to be caused by an uneven distribution of men vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:51 PM
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That is the societal default. When you ask someone when they lost their virginity, do they respond the first time they got a blow job?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:16 PM
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It’s not bleak framing, it’s anatomical reality. The inserted object generally has a pleasurable (or neutral if pegging) experience. The canal it’s inserted into does not have that same pleasurable experience if not in the right state. Just look at basic anatomy. Male pleasure nerves are located at the tip of the penis, which is activated during hetero penetration. Female pleasure nerves are at the entrance of the vaginal canal, so they are not activated from the same hetero penetration. The ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:04 PM
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If the man is the one being penetrated then it is also up their partner to turn them on and prep them for penetration. Like I said, it’s not a gendered thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:26 PM
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No. Each party is responsible for their own sexual desire. If you want to engage in sex, you must meet your partner where they’re at with their type of sexual desire. Otherwise just jerk off. Your partner is not there for masturbatory emissions. I think whoever the penetrated is gets slightly more say so in whether sex happens or not, as they’re literally the ones being penetrated. But that’s not a gendered thing necessarily, it’s just respectful of the vulnerable and intimate position they acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:11 PM
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Most of these responses pick option 1 because of his personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:59 PM
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that the introverted one in the relationship is not going to be making the first move. Not really. It just usually involves a warm approach over the usual cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:57 PM
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No. Majority of women don’t experience spontaneous desire the way men do. What are you not understanding here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:56 PM
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I did. It doesn’t change the fact that society’s default definition of sex is penetration, an almost exclusively male-pleasure centered activity. It also doesn’t change the focus of OP which is penetrative sexual intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:54 PM
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No. Because there’s an anatomical difference being the penetrator vs the penetrated. For one the pleasure nerves on men are at the tip of the penis, which is actively engaged during penetration. Women’s pleasure nerves are at the entrance to the vaginal canal, which are not engaged during penetration. When a woman isn’t turned on the vaginal canal does not loosen and expand. There’s no lubrication, so the chances of tearing and infection greatly increase. It’s not only physically painful but it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:52 PM
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I just argued that they will get aroused and want to have sex once they started. That’s not how that works. If you’re not already turned on when penetration happens then your vaginal canal tightens and no lubrication happens. Your body shuts down. It’s emotionally traumatic and physically dangerous as tearing and infection have a higher chance of occurring.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:43 PM
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especially if the things you have to do, do nothing for you. But they do. They turn your partner on. Which means comfortable and enthusiastic sex. Why do you think they “do nothing for you”? Are you not turned on seeing your partner turned on?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:38 PM
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Consent can be withdrawn at any time. That’s how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:34 PM
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says a literal 40 yr old 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:22 AM
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I’m 40 but my profile is 22. wtf also, even 22 yr olds don’t want to date a 22 yr old dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:11 AM
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Let’s start by calling out dudes who treat dating/sex/romance as hunting prey. It’s a dangerous mindset that we shouldn’t perpetuate for younger generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:09 AM
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A duty is voluntarily taken. From then on your will is irrelevant. That’s now how consent works. Just fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:07 AM
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I’m guessing you’re not the person being penetrated, are you? Take a moment and consider how traumatizing unwanted penetration could be, how overstimulating and uncomfortable a person could feel in their own body.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:08 AM
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Entering a monogamous relationship is not signing on to be someone’s fleshlight.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:55 AM
2

Well that’s why I didn’t . . ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:04 AM
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Let’s start by not laying the entire blame for rape culture on women. Think that’s a fair concession men like OP could make?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:07 PM
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As a woman who’s been “hunted” it feels exactly like that. I’m not taking anything literally- I’m accurately describing what the average woman has to put up with because we were born with a vagina and exist in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:43 PM
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Pretty sure we’d love a man’s libido to match ours so sex could last longer than 8 minutes . . but I guess we’re all disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:41 PM
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as if you have to submit a request for sex with an email, and calendar invite is what’s ridiculous. But that’s not what’s being suggested. Just that a non-existing answer is not a yes. I agree you can have an established base line of consent within a relationship, but it usually goes hugs & kisses are free game, fondling requires some level of non-verbal consent and no genitals should be grabbed until it’s clear both parties are into it. You may think this conversation is dumb, and that’s fine. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:39 PM
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See no, I don’t participate in that. If a man’s “hunting me” I’m automatically turned off. We’re equal people, this is essentially a business merger, there will be equal elevator pitches and negotiations and then we’ll either date or walk away. Women are humans, not animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:30 PM
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So you’re going to assume it’s a yes until she says no? . . .and that doesn’t feel rapey to you at all? FYI most people assume it’s a no until it’s a yes. That’s how consent works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:07 PM
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More equitable relationships also have more equitable orgasms. . . thank you feminism 🙏🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:05 PM
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More equitable relationships also have more equitable orgasms. . . thank you feminism 🙏🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:05 PM
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but personally I have sex without being in the mood if my partner turns me on with touching/oral etc. I’d agree with this but personally wouldn’t label this as “not being in the mood”. Like if a kiss turns into more and then evolves into sex, that’s just responsive desire and getting turned on. I’m no longer neutral at that point, I am actively enjoying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:55 PM
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Because your previous comment: I’d never judge a woman for sleeping with me easily is voided if you still would judge a woman for the increased body count. .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:42 PM
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I don’t think you understood my comment. I think sex, romance, and dating are a two-person activity. Both people are the persuer and the pursued. That doesn’t change the harsh reality that a lot of men don’t believe in that ideal, and they do assume dominance and aggression are a normal part of sex/dating/romance. We can recognize the current reality while intentionally creating a better ideal. Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive. .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:30 PM
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I’d never judge a woman for sleeping with me easily But do you judge a woman you might date by her body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:21 PM
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Yeah because their pleasure nerves are automatically activated during penetration. . . . the same is not true for women going by our societal definition of sex as penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:16 PM
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I don’t believe in reductive gender roles where woman are only persued. I think the idea that women are being hunted is gross and problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:10 PM
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Please read the news and understand the politics you’re commenting on. Conservatives are actively trying to take away access to birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:56 PM
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But being neutral, as you’ve described in your post, is not consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:50 PM
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No, they don’t. . .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:44 PM
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They absolutely are negotiable. . What sort of toxic relationships have you been in hon?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:42 PM
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“Should” works just fine. Just like a man “should” protect you from home invaders. It’s not a matter of whether he feels like it or not. What does this have to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:39 PM
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It’s spontaneous desire vs responsive desire. It also largely depends on how we’re defining sexual drive. If we assume a definition of sexual drive during sex then women statistically become the ones who rate higher in sex drive. But men don’t tend to rate well in endurance, and women’s pleasure doesn’t usually clock in from the average 8 minutes of penetration lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:38 PM
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I’m honestly fine with the current ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:22 PM
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Because it’s not asking someone to grab you a cup of water. It’s asking them to put away whatever they were actively interested in, take off their clothes, and let you insert your body part inside of them, repeatedly. When you’re in the mood sex is amazing. When you’re not it can easily be overstimulating or even uncomfortable for the person being penetrated. This isn’t a “hey can I borrow your pencil” kind of thing. .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:21 PM
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You should look up spontaneous vs responsive desire sometime
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:18 AM
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I suppose it depends on how you approach & what you say. But if you’re go-to is to plain-ol’ tell them they’re attractive and ask for their number it’s not going to work. These approaches do not add anything to a woman’s day and are just annoying to fend off as she’s out running errands.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:49 AM
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I think your confusion is you conflate therapy with being sick. Rather think of it this way, we all started from zero, learning to walk and read and studied subjects to learn more about the world. Just like everything else we’ve had to learn and practice as we’ve grown, things like emotional regulation and healthy communication are absolutely necessary for the average person to have in their toolkit. Now just like some people have an easier time learning to cook while others need more guided ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:12 AM
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I think you’re conflating a healthy emotional connection with the emotional and mental support a therapist gives. The two are incredibly different levels of support. One is absolutely a regular part of the average relationship, the other is a toxic level of responsibility to place on a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 11:03 PM
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I strongly disagree, I think being an individualist allows me to be the best version of myself and show up as that best version for my partner. I think it’s incredibly unhealthy to be someone’s everything, (unless we’re talking an actual small child/parental relationship.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:11 PM
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2k including child support, sure. Cuz child support is a straight up percentage of the parent’s income.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:56 AM
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No, not into the thousands of dollars. Feel free to cite a source, but that’s outrageous based on experience and research.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:46 AM
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Why are women a problem for not wanting kids and men aren’t? Also if that is your belief, don’t you think there should be way more support for mothers & kids if it’s this all-important thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:43 AM
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Again we’re not talking about the importance of motherhood. Just your audacious claims that motherhood is this ultimate fulfillment for every woman out there. To be clear I’d argue people that don’t want to raise kids should not be parents. Period. Kids deserve a healthy house with parents that love them. Some people genuinely love being a parent. Lots of people genuinely love other paths. To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:40 AM
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Do you think the same is true for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:35 AM
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So you do think all women would find motherhood more fulfilling? Despite your later comment: Sure not every woman. But most I reckon. Careers are not the most important thing in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:33 AM
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This was your initial comment: Motherhood will always be more fulfilling than a career and other selfish pursuits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:30 AM
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Because motherhood is extremely important. But that’s not what we’re talking about here. You specifically brought up personal fulfillment. No one’s arguing how necessary mothers are. Just that not every woman would find more fulfillment from motherhood than their career.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:25 AM
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So how do you know motherhood is automatically more fulfilling for every woman on earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:20 AM
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Motherhood will always be more fulfilling than a career and other selfish pursuits. Are you saying this as a mother yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:17 AM
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What benefits do they get exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:12 AM
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How is it contentless to ask if you’re being serious or sarcastic with your previous comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:12 AM
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Demeaning a woman, calling her a thot and judging her for her sexual history is misogynistic though. The exact phrasing he used was 100% misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:11 AM
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I wasn’t asking random strangers bro. I was pointing out the idiocy of his statement with a rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:08 AM
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That sounds like two completely different generations giving advice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:54 PM
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Neither does truth apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:13 PM
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No, obviously it’s not. I’m guessing you need to be pretty conservative/red pilled to get to that side of the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:08 PM
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How am I lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:05 PM
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That sounds homophobic & misogynistic as shit. So nope, has not come up on my feed. It’s cute that you think parental preference has any power over the sexual behaviors of their offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:03 PM
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No, because that’s not representative of any of the research or scientific studies I’ve ever read. I have seen data that shows men are less likely to go to the doctors when they’re sick, but nothing to indicate the symptoms of the common cold are at all worse for men. It’s also easily proven when you look at single parents, men included who still show up to care for the kids despite being sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:00 PM
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they would never let their daughter have a sexual past what? I don’t think fathers have any say whatsoever in their daughter’s sex lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:53 PM
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I think you mean ‘fleeing’?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:49 PM
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And yes, we men do suffer more from common cold; we also die from it more often. Yeah, because y’all are weak. Be an adult, take your damn meds and go about your day. Its really not that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:47 PM
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and what do you say of men who don’t want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:32 PM
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That’s not complaining hon, that’s informing you of a perspective you’re clearly lacking. Complaining would be making a whiney post in PPD complaining about how rough life is as woman and how lonely and sad we are and how it’s everyone else’s fault. We don’t complain tho, we suck it up, take an advil and get to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:23 PM
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I’m sorry what do you think advil does? It simply reduces excess inflammation in the womb, it doesn’t remove cramps, it doesn’t stop the blood from churning, it doesn’t take away the nausea or the headaches, it doesn’t effect the literal hormonal shift happening throughout your body. We still feel the pain, we can just button our jeans and get back to work till our tampon leaks again. Cuz yeah we don’t get extra sick days from work, we’ve still got to do everything y’all do despite a shark week …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:19 PM
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Did you notice how that’s not the average woman? Almost like the average woman is pretty great at dealing with pain and discomfort, as it’s been a natural part of our life since we were 11 yrs old.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:02 PM
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Men struggle in dating today because they forgot women are human too. Just like men they are individuals with their own ideas, thoughts, and preferences. If you approach assuming a woman acts and behaves the same as all other women, you’re going to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:17 PM
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But why are you assuming that what they’re saying is untrue. Couldn’t it be one of many reasons why they don’t want kids? If so, that’s simply not a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:07 PM
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It was definitley a strawman argument to the main comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:06 PM
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No. You didn’t. Every statement in your previous comment assumes women are lying. I asked where that assumption comes from. You did not answer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:03 PM
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women are now trained from birth to avoid pain and discomfort at all costs. That’s news to me. Thank god I don’t have to deal with routine natural pain & discomfort being a woman cuz that would suck and be impossible to avoid. oh wait 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:01 PM
1

Dear lord bro, your reading comprehension is terribly confusing at this point. For the last time, why do you assume they’re lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:55 PM
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I didn’t realize that it was a lot of work just to take children to the store with oneself. You’re joking, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:55 PM
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Those aren’t lies tho. Everything you’ve listed is a valid and justified reason for opting out of kids. It’s likely not the only reason, but hey maybe I don’t owe you a complete stranger on the internet my full explanation, so I just give you my lighter reasons for choosing not to have kids. Think about it. If a stranger asked you why you don’t own a second house would you give them your whole personal explanation or would you make a joke about the economy?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:41 PM
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And only the self matters And yours wasn’t a straw man argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:34 PM
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And I’ll ask again, why do you think they’re lying? There’s likely pages of reasons why they’ve opted out of kids, why should they deliver their whole thesis on the topic to you a complete stranger for that decision to be deemed valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:32 PM
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TLDR : the timeline of a court judge hearing your case, making their judgement and then you appealing their decision does not line up with the timeline of a pregnancy. As long as medical decisions are a political and judicial issue, women’s lives are at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:30 PM
3

But they’ve chosen not to have kids, so why should they pinch those pennies rather than enjoy their child-free life? I really don’t get your issue with all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:23 PM
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The issue in practice is that states like Texas lawmakers/judges assume any heartbeat is a living breathing life. Doesn’t actually matter if the fetus has some chronic abnormalities, undeveloped organs, or terminal disorders that statistically lead to preterm labor and a very painful few days of “life” for the baby hooked up to tubes as it slowly dies. That of course is more suffering for the baby, it also risks the lives of these mothers, many of whom already have kids at home and who still wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:20 PM
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I don’t know why you think they’re lying about it. I can write w whole 10 pages of reasons why I don’t want kids, and I’d only be scratching the surface. It’s genuinely such a deeply all-encompassing subject that most women grapple with for a very long time. When you’ve started bleeding at 11 years old and are told it’s because you’re going to have kids some day, while you’re still very much a child yourself, it becomes this ever present question looming over your head. Sorry women can’t summari…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:08 PM
2

but the benefits outweigh the suck most of the time. If you have the means and support to enjoy those benefits, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:03 PM
4

So because I don’t want to push a watermelon out of my tampon hole, you think I’m dumb, flighty, irresponsible and slutty? Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:59 PM
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Women are being denied access to abortions by judges with no medical training. Women who want to have kids, who often already have kids, and who’ve agreed with their doctors and husband that the fetus in their womb is unviable and likely will kill them if they carry to term. When you let state lawmakers play doctor’s, healthcare does not work and women’s lives are being risked for purely political reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:57 PM
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No. It just doesn’t magically stop mattering when you have a kid like a lot of people seem to assume lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:55 PM
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You can put a dog in a crate and go to store by yourself. You cannot do that with a kid, or so I’m told.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:50 PM
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Kids are an easy decision when all you do is donate the sperm. For us though it’s agreeing to 2+ years of a wrecked body, a complete change in our emotional & psychological balance, and a huge debt depending on what country you live in. And that’s just the pregnancy/birth. Then you suddenly have a living breathing human that you personally need to feed, and bathe, and care for, all while still focusing on your own full-time job and taking care of yourself and your happiness? I think some people …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:45 PM
4

Again no, you’re misunderstanding. Everyone starts as an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:41 AM
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No they are, they’re just quickly ruled out and moved over to the not-an-option pile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:31 AM
2

Why “unfortunately”?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:08 AM
9

Agreed, but it’s entirely possible his friends are already getting the first and just not reaching the second. If so the answer would be entirely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:07 AM
1

I also think you’re overestimating how many rape cases actually feel safe and comfortable going to the ER for treatment and to formally report any assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:06 AM
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No it shows a very small data set, of some people that went to the hospital to be tested. That’s it. It doesn’t show people who blacked out for multiple hours and weren’t hospitalized. I also think you’re overestimating how many rape cases actually feel safe and comfortable going to the ER for treatment and to formally report any assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:59 AM
2

Women grossly exaggerate the prevalence of drink spiking Or the public awareness has worked properly and women are actively careful with their drinks while in public. This data doesn’t prove what you think it does lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:48 AM
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Everyone is an option until they’re ruled out as not an option. That’s just how human interaction & dating works.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:23 AM
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There’s two separate questions here. Why are these men not getting dates? Why are these men not finding a relationship? Those are two very different questions with entirely different potential answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:13 AM
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unfortunately there are plenty of people asking and advocateing for the nonexistence of men. I think you’re assuming literal meaning where there isn’t any. I would say most people’s self worth comes from other people. It doesn’t. That’s a classic sign of low self esteem and a symptom of mental distress. Your self worth shouldn’t be defined by other people’s thoughts and feelings, chasing that sort of external validation is a fools errand, for one, and it’s also mentally and emotionally unfulfill…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:20 AM
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You’re missing the whole big in-between that’s not invading a strangers personal space demanding their attention or ignoring every other human’s existence My comment specifically condemns women making those sorts of comments as assholes, it’s uncalled for Literally no one is asking for the non-existence of anyone. But maybe your whole self worth shouldn’t be tied up in how other people see you, that’s all people are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:25 AM
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I mean OPs right. Some men make those comments, they’re definitely not representative of all men everywhere. You could argue the percentage for sure, but it’s not all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:13 AM
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Agreed 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:07 AM
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If that’s what you were trying to ask, then the answer is plenty. Lots of women don’t want feminism. Lots of women aren’t into progressive ideals and prefer a traditional conservative culture. Just like lots of men prefer a progressive culture. OP’s point is these preferences aren’t gendered in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:06 AM
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I totally agree. . like I did in my og comment Tbh tho the women who are calling those men “lazy, maladjusted, and insular” are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:09 PM
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I mean, men aren’t saying “Don’t try to talk to me or be my friend bro. it’s weird” So I beg to differ that. Because men haven’t routinely been sexually harassed on the street since puberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:05 PM
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That sounds like a recipe for a miserable life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:01 PM
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you might as well just admit you discourage men from ever approaching women. Yeah, I’m fine with that. You’re basically making most women off limits to most men. No, they’re just as “off limits” as any two strangers are to each other. Tbh tho the women who are calling those men “lazy, maladjusted, and insular” are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:59 PM
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Your exact comment: I find the idea of 2 men or 2 women together sexually to be personally disgusting. The thought makes me gag. It would be like asking would you date someone that was into scat play. Fuck no, that’s disgusting even if they don’t ever ask you to do it. “disgusting” “the thought makes me gag” “fuck no” “that’s disgusting”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:54 PM
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how do you not let it seep into your everyday dynamics once you see him being submissive in the bedroom? Why are you assuming a woman is submissive out in the world just because she’s submissive some nights in the bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:40 PM
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I find the idea of 2 men or 2 women together sexually to be personally disgusting. The thought makes me gag. It would be like asking would you date someone that was into scat play. Fuck no, that’s disgusting even if they don’t ever ask you to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:17 PM
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Male infants prefer wheeled objects like trucks as toys whereas female infants prefer plus objects like dolls as toys No they don’t. That would literally be adults preferences when buying toys. Early childhood education shows no gender distinction between toy preferences 3yrs and under. By school age kids are more affected by the adults in their lives, but even then it’s not a girl likes dolls and boys like trains thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:15 PM
2

The definition of homophobia isn’t exclusive to hate. It’s hate OR fear OR discomfort & disgust. Source
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:12 PM
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Stop and think for a second how if you said those same statements about black people, how racist you’d absolutely come across. It’s the same disgust and prejudice. Maybe you’re assuming homophobia is only outward violence against, it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:05 PM
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The Association Between Disgust Sensitivity and Negative Attitudes Toward Homosexuality: The Mediating Role of Moral Foundations Disgust: A predictor of social conservatism and prejudicial attitudes toward homosexuals Heteronormativity, Disgust Sensitivity, and Hostile Attitudes toward Gay Men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:04 PM
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No you’ve shown a survey that shows men have a higher rate of infidelity. The heterosexual, homosexual & bisexual male categories all had a higher rate than the female equivalents. You’re assuming a trait onto bisexual men that’s not exclusive or representative of that individual group.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:01 PM
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I find the idea disgusting the thought makes me gag fuck no that’s disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:57 PM
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Nope, never even implied that. You however . . . I find the idea of 2 men or 2 women together sexually to be personally disgusting. The thought makes me gag. It would be like asking would you date someone that was into scat play. Fuck no, that’s disgusting even if they don’t ever ask you to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:53 PM
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I’m sorry but survey does not support the above commenters claim that bisexuality is linked to infidelity. For one only 3.4% of the US identified as LGBT+ back in 2012, of that bisexuality has historically been the smallest percentage of that. Even out of a sample size of 2,000+ a self-identified survey where 34% of bisexual participants admitted to previous infidelity is not statistically relevant to the above claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:51 PM
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I’m sorry, do you think that countries had female majority in governmental authority 60+ years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:47 PM
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gee, i wonder who made up that rule Yeah, men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:45 PM
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To be clear I have zero issue with your personal preference. I have every issue with the way you chose to explain said preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:44 PM
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Your entire post is a plea to needlessly gender characteristics. I’m point out how unless the characteristics are actually gendered, ie anatomically distinct activities then it’s unnecessary and people are very valid in correcting such statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:39 PM
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If you equate “scat play” with “trans sex” then yes, you’d be transphobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:32 PM
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No I got your reference, I’m just pointing out the flaw in your entire argument. You’re needlessly gendering gender neutral traits and ending up with an inaccurate statement as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:30 PM
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That’s just unnecessarily gendering a gender neutral trait. That’d be as dumb as saying most women drive cars, when the larger more correct statement “most people drive cars” would be far more effective. Even worse would be the statement “women drive cars” which implies by exclusion that men don’t drive cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:28 PM
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Yeah, you’re equating scat play with homosexual sex. One which is the most taboo kink you could possibly get, and the other could be the most plain ass vanilla thing in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:26 PM
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Hon, you compared homosexual sex to scat play . . .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:16 PM
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You make a vague claim, you get a vague response. But since you asked so nicely: No, because most people of a gender do not share the same preferences in certain things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:15 PM
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It would be like asking would you date someone that was into scat play. Fuck no, that’s disgusting even if they don’t ever ask you to do it. Maybe add a disclaimer here that you’re simply homophobic?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:12 PM
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But you will find that MOST share the same preferences in certain things That’s widely incorrect lol, for men & women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:11 PM
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Yeah, that’s incorrect lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:10 PM
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Actually historically war was gendered, as women couldn’t enlist in most countries until about 60 years ago? Generally, gendered things involve scientific anatomy or specific historical trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:09 PM
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So why in your initial comment did you say bisexuals have a higher chance of cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:05 PM
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But attraction doesn’t mean interest, and it certainly doesn’t suggest promiscuity or infidelity. If you’re monogamous then you’re only interested in one person at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:02 PM
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You’ll find the people saying that shit are the ones who think men & women are inherently different and that all men are stoic, protective, or great providers. I think most of us can recognize that this doesn’t describe all men lol. It’s cavemen bullshit, people are people. Each with their own characteristics and personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:59 PM
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Yes. It’s the same as dating a heterosexual man. Also, there are absolutely men who have issues dating bisexual women lol. Generally it’s homophobia, insecurity and possessive issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:56 PM
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That’s not at all accurate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:54 PM
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When I say that women be shopping, I’m not saying that all women everywhere are always shopping, I’m saying that women have a *tendency to, a preference, they have a history of repeatedly shopping. I’m saying that it would be a reasonable to expect that at some point a woman will buy something.* You’re making a gendered implication that this specific behavior is characteristic of women as the majority. That’s what people are correcting. This gendering of a behavior that’s gender neutral in natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:44 PM
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Easily 5% of the population should be locked up Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:57 PM
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Hard disagree on that one hon
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:14 PM
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Tell me you’ve never had sex before 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:46 PM
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Why? Its your reading comprehension that sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:40 AM
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Is it the bare minimum nowadays that men go down on women? sweetheart
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:10 AM
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Do you at least make sure the woman orgasms from other means? Or are you actually out here using sex as a masturbatory activity?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:54 AM
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I think you misunderstood the post
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:53 AM
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nah. . pretty sure it comes from the orgasm gap statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:52 AM
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Prostitution & brothels are very well documented throughout history. It was generally very cheap to rent a prostitute for a spin, they usually hung out at the local tavern and had beds upstairs. Link Are you 12 or do you really not understand how the world worked for majority of history?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:36 AM
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Never heard this argument before, and I’m pretty well read on feminist/progressive advocacy. Yeah the prison industrial complex is a big fucking issue, but that’s not a gendered problem, it’s a systemic one. We need prison reform, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:31 AM
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Sex is for mutual orgasms bro. Women are absolutely owed orgasms, and holy shit I’m gonna pray for whatever poor woman has had to suffer through your masturbation, I’m sure it was as gross and awful as it seems it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:16 AM
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I’m not saying that. I’m saying some people are promiscuous and some aren’t. It’s not a gendered thing, and it’s up to you to live however you want and live out those consequences. I find it utterly ridiculous how you’re attempting to place the blame of men’s actions on women. Your problem seems to be promiscuity, so then level the blame equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:14 AM
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Without promiscuity, period. Male & female.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:07 AM
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No, it’s a you problem if you’re participating in a two person sexual encounter. If you’re going to use a vagina to get yourself off, you get the vagina off. That’s how sex works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:05 AM
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This was your original comment bro: Before sexual revolution, yes. After that, most of these concerns disappeared, and thus the balance of promiscuity tilted in favor of women. Are you confused which comment chain we’re on?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:04 AM
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Yes. We do not have penetrative sex until I’ve had at least one orgasm, 9/10 times that’s achieved through oral. Every guy I’ve been with has happily participated in such events
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 02:00 AM
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Once more, this is a debate sub. Says the person not debating
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:58 AM
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It’s incredibly important. . As important as your finish during a sexual encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:49 AM
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Once again, no. You specifically stated: After that, most of these concerns disappeared, and thus the balance of promiscuity tilted in favor of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:47 AM
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Oh sweetie. . .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:45 AM
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Online dating adds a level of anonymity. Enabling complete strangers to meet and hook-up is inherently dangerous. Add to that social media and digital technology making stalking a much bigger issue in modern time. Previously there was no expectation of sex or any physical interaction on a first date, now young men expect and demand such, to a violent extreme in many cases. If they buy you dinner a lot of men feel owed entrance into your vagina, which is a toxic and dangerous mindset that social …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:44 AM
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No, it’s not safer now. That is incorrect. How are you misunderstanding such simple sentences?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:38 AM
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Why do I get the distinct impression that you’ve never made a woman orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:37 AM
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You made a very simple and vague statement that was completely incorrect. What is there to debate? You gave no facts or any attempt at logical reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:27 AM
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After that, most of these concerns disappeared, and thus the balance of promiscuity tilted in favor of women. No.. Completely incorrect 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:22 AM
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Responding to your edit: You do realize that OPs comments are incredibly emotionally triggered, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:20 AM
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Men who are truly disgusted by violence against women are not getting erections by choking, hitting, kicking, and slapping women. You’re wrong, they are in a happy & consenting relationship. The only correlation here is between BDSM and a porn addiction. Nope. There is a lot of relation between BDSM and rationalizing abuse. Also incorrect. BDSM by definition is consensual and focuses heavily on open communication. i promise you that you can have beautiful fulfilling intercourse without reproduci…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:17 AM
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Yet they say men are “stronger” 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:12 AM
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No, I sound like a woman who experiences those “severe and unsafe” side effects every single month. Suffering the same symptoms doctor after doctor has ignored because “they’re not actually that bad” when a woman complains about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:11 AM
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Like none of this is fact bro
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:08 AM
2

Slashes in the English language literally indicate interchangeable words.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:06 AM
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That is quite literally what BDSM is about. It’s about creating a safe and protective environment to explore the full range of physical sensations the human body can feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:04 AM
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They’re as “unsafe” as an average woman’s period. Men just can’t handle pain for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:01 AM
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Well I think you have to ask yourself why you can only be turned on by violence against you. CNC is literally the opposite of violence. People who like BDSM have something wrong with them No hon, some people really just enjoy new physical sensations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:00 AM
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while men are only able to use two. Do you know why? Because every time hormonal male birth control has been tested the symptoms were ruled “too severe and unsafe”. What were those symptoms you ask? Aches, warmth, headaches, nausea, all the symptoms an average woman experiences every month on her period!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:56 AM
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Most women can’t be either. Every sexual encounter carries inherent safety concerns, health concerns, pregnancy concerns. We take way more risk from the encounter then men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:48 AM
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I mean yeah? Casual sex is immensely pleasurable for men, and not really at all for women, so obviously there’s a disconnect in who’s actively seeking out casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:46 AM
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Dude by your own admission this issue is caused by men failing to wrap it. Go advocate for men to get a vasectomy instead of whatever dumb argument you’re failing to make here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:44 AM
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How exactly are women the gatekeepers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:39 AM
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No wonder there’s a baby mama apocalypse and a generation of ppl with baggage No, statistically there’s a baby daddy apocalypse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:39 AM
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the concern here is whether the normalization of promiscuity and the devaluation of commitment could be making relationships more unstable across the board. How? Why does your post essentially put this blame onto women? Men have always been promiscuous, you could argue that their bad habits have rubbed off on modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:31 AM
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Every feminist I know is monogamous + romantic. We just respect everyone’s right to choose their own adventure, regardless of their gender. If men get to live up the single life and be players then women are just as justified to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:29 AM
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Jokes are funny sweetie Your comment wasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:27 AM
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Reread your previous comment hon ⁠> asserts the main source of women’s suffering and marginalization in times past was due to “the patriarchy”/men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:26 AM
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Please read up on the subject yourself, I don’t have the energy tonight to educate y’all on the social and historical definitions of patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:24 AM
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Why would I listen to a woman? I think we’ve found your issue hon
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:19 AM
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No. The average woman absolutely gets that patriarchy=\=men. Men are the ones who seem to be confused. If more of yall actually paused and listened to what women are actually saying you’d get that by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:21 PM
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Dude “the patriarchy” is not synonymous with men. It is a completely different concept, signifying a system of power where property and rights transferred from father to son for generations. That should clear up a lot of your confusion on this subject lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:57 PM
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Feminism is about empowering women with the right and opportunity to make decisions for themselves. They’re still free to make stupid ass decisions just like anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:33 PM
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No woman in the history of time has ever explained what it was like to have a relationship with a man, and not used the term he was abusive. You need to find a healthier crowd to hang out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:54 PM
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Insecure people settle for shitty behavior and sucky people because they think that’s the best they can get. That’s not a gendered trait, it’s observed fairly equally in men & women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:53 PM
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They weren’t feminists mate🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:48 PM
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I mean that’s not gendered. It was sold to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:46 PM
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Because statistically the odds aren’t in your favor. The world has 7.95 billion people, let’s say an 8th of that is in your age demographic, even less of that speaks your native language, even less actually exist in your regional area, are currently single, and are looking for the same things in life you are at the same time. These are just facts of human dating. Now even if there’s someone for everyone out there, what are the odds they’re going to find each other across all those obstacles?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:02 PM
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This. You have to value someone’s opinion for it to be emotionally distressing. If you don’t respect their opinion then their comments are just annoying white noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:59 PM
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The last two sentences aren’t my own opinion, I was describing the sorts of couples I know who’ve gone through issues like that. Often conservative or religious couples uphold certain traditions like the man’s emotions being the woman’s job to nurture and manage and a woman’s feelings are just silly annoyances for her to deal with herself. Personally I prefer a much more equitable view of a relationship where we’re both equals with feelings that matter equally. But that’s just not how a lot of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:47 PM
5

You know a man came up with that term, right? Like the foremost psychologists on such topics were literally men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:45 PM
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Men tend to have standards that aren’t based on emotion and hormones. Oh really? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:16 PM
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I would agree. But in my experience it says more about how that particular couple values a man’s opinion vs a woman’s opinion. A woman’s dissatisfaction is merely an annoyance. Whereas a man’s dissatisfaction is an actual problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:12 PM
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Idk if I’d consider that cheating, but I would worry about their emotional and social health.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:11 PM
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Don’t wives also tip-toe around their husbands for fear of being criticized constantly by their husbands? Yeah, that’s called emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:09 PM
1

What version of reality are you in? Have you looked around at long term relationships and observed how boring those taken men actually are?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:52 AM
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A lot of women aren’t looking for “exciting” lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:25 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:19 AM
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Sure. Totally not the people coming up with these dumb ‘choose your own’ q’s daily on this sub 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:15 AM
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Life punishes us for a condition we didn’t choose. No, it doesn’t. Same way “life” isn’t punishing a wheelchair bound person. We’re all dealt a hand and have to learn to navigate the world with the tools in our toolbox. I’d wager you’d find an easier time navigating the world if you detach this personification of punishment you’re framing yourself in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:04 AM
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I got punished because I wanted that experience and didn’t get it because of my autism. That’s not being “punished”, that’s just the natural reaction of your action/inaction. Like if I say something dumb in a job interview, I’m not being punished for being autistic when they don’t hire me, I just didn’t hit the right notes to have an effective interaction. That’s on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:56 AM
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Living with any neurodivergence makes life harder for you, dating is just one facet of that. That’s to be said of any illness or disability. Personally I think it’s unhealthy to think of it as being “punished” when it’s not actually external actions being done to you rather just organic reactions to your natural behaviors. But you enjoy that perspective if that is working well for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:41 AM
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But you give both unattractive qualities but only one actual compatibility issues. Either you’re monogamous or you’re not, that’s not actually negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:37 AM
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why? you give two bad options and don’t ask for any reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:33 AM
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Dude I am autistic. I also am single. I am very aware of the issues of dating in the neurodivergent community. And all of that being said, lack of experience isn’t a red flag unless you wave it like one. That’s the whole point I’m making, but it’s pretty clear you hold other views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:33 AM
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what’s the point of q’s like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:31 AM
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Or someone who values quality over quantity. Your pessimism is getting in the way of the clear balance that already exists here hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:25 AM
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pure unempathetic gaslighting in the par-for-the-course fashion of the trolls wow what a great confession you made there! Love the self awareness with no hint of hypocrisy 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:22 AM
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Odds are they’re also socially anxious so won’t hang out in social spaces publicly and wouldn’t like being approached randomly. So online would be his best bet, secondary to looking within his social circle. A friend of a friend is how I’ve seen most situations like this worked out. But also, that’s not what this convo is even about, nor do I have to solve this problem for him. Those same women are asking those same questions about trying to find men to date, the hard truth is if you’re not very…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:20 AM
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I didn’t lie, I’m sharing my perspective based on my life experience and my own research on the subject. You pulled out a source to debate so yeah I’m gonna shoot down your source. You’re the only one here trying to claim anything as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:15 AM
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Women who are also inexperienced or who’ve been selective about when and how they want to partner up. Women who have shared life experience as him, perhaps dedicating their young 20s to school or building a business and didn’t prioritize romance or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:14 AM
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Mature people would prefer someone who knows what they are doing. Unless you also have limited to no experience. For like the fifth time, it’s about shared values and compatible life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:12 AM
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Btw did you bother to notice how many countries aren’t accounted for in your data there? Even the graph you’re citing doesn’t describe the majority of people. Just the majority of recorded data from specific countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:07 AM
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But we’re not talking about personal fulfillment or happiness here. We’re talking about how other people perceive your potential. People can be sad about literally anything, that doesn’t mean the rest of the world actually gives a damn or interacts with that person differently because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:05 AM
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I didn’t claim that of the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:03 AM
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Are you perhaps color blind? Because 17 is not the majority age on that very graph lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:59 AM
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I literally know countless people, men & women, who fit this description bro. Sounds like your life experience may not be as universal as you’re assuming lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:55 AM
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which makes it harder for you to develop those skills and not easier. Agreed. But that’s not what this conversation is about at all. We’re not talking about ease of social connection. We’re just talking about the lack of experience. It all comes down to how you react to your situation and what energy you bring into new experiences. That varies person to person, but it’s not defined by your previous experience or lack thereof.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:54 AM
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Just say you’ve been focusing on other goals and you’re finally at a point where you want to focus on dating & romance. Tell the truth but in the most positive way. Like selling a house, it’s not old and broken, it has a lived in charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:50 AM
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Once again it’s about shared values and life experience. Simple as that. There’s no universal shared experience for people of either gender, so it really does differ person to person. It depends on their culture and community, their ambitions and aspirations in life, their social behaviors. .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:49 AM
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In the US sure, (though Gen Z is drastically changing those stats by not having sex.) Likely in the UK as well. Not globally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:47 AM
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if he fits the main criteria Please tell me you understand that people are individuals and don’t hold identical universal preferences . .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:45 AM
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It’s a negative to some people, not to others. It’d be like trying to sell snow pants in Florida. Don’t waste your time and energy where there’s no compatibility or potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:41 AM
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Unless the woman shares his ambitious values and entrepreneurial spirit? . . Its about shared values between two people, not a universal opinion shared amongst an entire gender lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:39 AM
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I mean it means you’ve been particular about who you want to be intimate with. You’re more likely to find a partner who also values exclusive intimacy within a relationship. That’s a positive trait for lots of people, and not the preference for lots of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:35 AM
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How do you *not be resentful of the fact you simply weren’t attractive enough, either physically or mentally, to be considered a worthy partner for either a sexual or a romantic context until certain milestones are accomplished in your thirties?* Dude it takes lot’s of people well into adulthood to find the right match. Even more if the environment you grew up in isn’t the environment you’re seeking for your adult life. That’s just the odds of meeting people that are right for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:33 AM
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A lot of women will question why he hasn’t got any experience so far In fairness, I think it’s a reasonable thing to question and that doesn’t make it red-flag worthy. Lot’s of things are worth asking for more information on, doesn’t mean they’re inherently problematic and most of the time are totally normal given a reasonable response.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:29 AM
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It becomes a problem when A. he’s actively resentful of these parts of himself or B. he lies about it or intentionally tries to deceive a potential relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:26 AM
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because you hate that this is right No. Because a theory which hasn’t been corroborated in over a decade is not current or applicable to modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:37 PM
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Why? You haven’t given any facts that prove you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:29 PM
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Literally how? How on earth could a person prove to you that the vague and omniscient everything isn’t propaganda or gaslighting? Any reason, resource, or reference I could give, you would still call propaganda or gaslighting. Please tell me you recognize your own self-fulfilling prophecy here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:16 PM
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Or is there a way for the sexes to come together? Yes. Stop assuming any perspective unlike your own is “feminist propaganda and gaslighting”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:07 PM
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Whatever the fictional ideal men think is attractive as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:44 PM
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He may even assume she already knows this. what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:33 PM
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Guns are lethal and in close attack can be easily misfired. They tend to be a bit heavier in weight and are statistically more easily disarmed by an assailant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:29 PM
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Pepper spray, taser, kubotan, alarm keychain, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:50 PM
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How often do you have ugly creepy guys or bear talk men invade your home?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:15 PM
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Isn’t the same true for most men tho. The women they’re willing to sleep with are not the same women they’d take home to meet their mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:59 AM
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No. They’re ineffective for self-defense & a danger to keep around kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:56 AM
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I was in 2nd grade when a boy tried lifting my skirt in the middle of class for ‘boyish curiosity’. I was in 4th grade when boys started describing random actions as ‘sexy’. Did those boys understand the meaning or intent of their actions? probably not But did it make me feel very uncomfortable and extremely cautious for being a girl? absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:07 PM
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I definitley see some of their points but it’s far too puritanical imo. Porn can be ethical and non-misogynistic, diverse in body type and tameness. My solution would be to make better, safer more inclusive porn, not ban all porn lol. My big concerns re: porn are the ethical and exploitation issues, but personally that’s why I watch specific creators and not others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:13 PM
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Since I was a little girl I was taught to be weary of my surroundings and the people I’m in a private space with. I was probably 12 the first time I was catcalled, but it was also the first time I spent time in a city, so it likely happens earlier for a lot of girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:07 PM
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It’s about as accurate of advice as saying “hey it might be raining outside”. But yet it was a universal lesson most mothers, aunties and grandmothers engrained in us as young girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:46 PM
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You seem to have a very confident, albeit inaccurate, view of the education system. We agree on quite a few things, yet you seem to approach this comment and the past few from an antagonistic opposition, which is ironic, considering. I don’t think there’s any information I could give you that would inform your view point, given your defiant stance on well everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:44 PM
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That’s not accurate in the least lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:39 PM
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Yes. Did you not read the rest of that comment to see how I described the equitable reverse where men were given specific intrinsic skills that women later had to put forth conscious effort to learn?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:10 PM
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No, just trying to see what crap dressed up as social grade inflation that we get to hear today under the “women are wonderful” banner. What an interesting perspective you have on this conversation. Here I saw it as we’re giving men valid credit the work and effort they’re consciously putting in to learn and practice those skills that weren’t taught to most. I’m a bit curious how you got to the ‘women are wonderful’ effect from there?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:06 PM
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The way to a man’s heart is through his stomach! If only I had a nickel for every time I was told this growing up 🤣💀
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:54 PM
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so now you’re changing your stance, because talking about an intrinsic and intuitive skill set that doesn’t need to be shared on a digital forum sure doesn’t sound like you’re talking about grandma. This response is a pure backtrack. Nothing about this was historic when you’re laying claim to it now. I don’t understand your confusion. Children learn through modeled behavior, that’s a well-recorded fact. We’re not taught how to crawl or speak we just observed our family and intuitively learned fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:51 PM
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Yes. Diet, nutrition, self-maintenance. Those are things that society engrained in women. Look at pop culture through the 40-50s, nutrition tips in magazines and moms taught their daughters how to take their body measurements to track their weight progression. At that same time men largely as a group weren’t engrained in those same topics. Men were smoking cigars and drank a lot, had a bloody steak and complained when their wives put lettuce on their plate. Ironically women had such a focus on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:48 PM
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To preface I would like to make clear that men as a group and as individuals are two different entities. Is that not what you meant by your initial preface to this entire conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:42 PM
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Yes largely men as a general group are learning those social skills through the active engagement of online forums and social conversations. I absolutely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:41 PM
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You’re right modern society has cut back on a lot of that, but it’s true for both gendered skill sets. Lots of men can’t change a tire to save their life. It’s not gendered, it’s just how humans have naturally reacted to technology & free access to information. All that being said, my comments specifically cited a historic lens, looking beyond this current generation to the generations of our mothers, grandmothers and great grandmothers. It seems like you’re uninterested in carrying on that conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:39 PM
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I agree with your comment a lot. I think what’s largely gone unrecognized, not in your comment necessarily but generally, are the heightened standards of excellence our mothers had to perform to. The women who fought to get into the workforce, fought for education, and equal pay. They had to do it all, be the same beautiful and caring woman they were assigned and then carry the added weight of professional success on top of that. A lot of that unfairly, so my generation and the next would have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:36 PM
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A different set of skills have been taught to men, broadly speaking. Things like self-motivation, work ethic, tenacity all were likely modeled by older men in your life, as they were in mine. But a lot of those same men didn’t handle their emotions well, instead they drank till they punched a wall or worse their wives face and that was how they coped. The world was a different place and thankfully we’re evolving.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:27 PM
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Oh they’re more than capable of those. But for some reason lots of men skated by for generations without a lot of those practiced skills. Now suddenly women have upped their game & make their own money so men have to brush up on the skills they weren’t inherently given. I was assuming the same ‘general vs individual’ disclaimer you applied to your post to these comments, outliers of every magnitude exist but we’re talking about the group not the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:24 PM
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If automation wipes out ~30% of jobs we’re all gonna have a lot bigger problems. Agreed. But you know who we’ll need to figure out those problems . . ? multi-dimensional thinkers that weren’t trained to sit, stand, and pee as instructed .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:19 PM
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What skills exactly? Things like grooming, self maintenance, nutrition, exercise, social behaviors, interpersonal communication, nonverbal cues, emotional awareness & coping strategies etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:15 PM
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Did you read my full comment? Those same skills have been taught to girls, ladies and women for generations now. It’s been intrinsic and intuitive so why would there be digital online forums sharing basic commonly held information like that? Instead you’ll find a lot of professional development content catered to women, to teach us the skills our moms didn’t pass on. The reverse for men is precisely what you’re describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:58 PM
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Sure for some. But reasonably, that’s a terrible training method for the future mechanics, doctors, engineers, pastry chefs etc of the world. We literally live in the modern day and age where most desk jobs could be automated, the things we can’t train robots to do should be the skills we prep most Americans for, yet they’re the precise learning styles our education system alienates and ‘beats’ out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:53 PM
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the RELATIVE lack of equivalent advice given to women it can be surmised that society colletively holds to some degree the idea that women by default have achieved said standard of self improvement. The similar advice has existed for women for generations, it’s just not a sudden societal change for us to put effort into our physical, emotional or mental well-being as that was always the expectation for women. To that point men are now called on to be more than a financial source and women are be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:46 PM
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There’s a metric ton of industrial-era decisions that continue to play an outsized role in shaping our lives, regardless of the advances in research, because inertia is a bitch and because change implementation is slow and difficult. This. 100%. The sort of reform we need is foundational and infrastructural, but convincing society of that is basically impossible. So instead everyone’s suffering, the kids are struggling, their parents and teachers are feeling the brunt of it, and we as a society …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:20 PM
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Mind sharing your source? It does not match the reading I’ve done on this subject lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:17 PM
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Every couple I know, digital + irl, that got together in the past few years met through social circles. That’s a shared experience for most people I’ve talked to on here. Not denying that blind dates don’t happen. Just pointing out that most relationships don’t stem from blind dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:58 PM
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It doesn’t happen as much in disadvantaged areas. Why? Because the parents/community are overwhelmed or don’t know better. And same for the people running the schools. Totally agree about the importance of parental/community involvement in children’s education. So much of that boils down to bandwidth and the toxic work/life balance we’ve got in the US. A liveable wage & reasonable hours would do wonders societally. Parents would be around their kids more, more involved in their education and upb…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:06 PM
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Listen, you know what your life would have been like 100 years ago... just look at what your great grandparents lived like. All of mine had pretty damn good lives, hard in many places but overall great. Dude you’re not making the points you think you are. It’s great that you’ve come from such an affluent family, but the majority of people do not share your familial luck. Check your privilege and maybe you’ll understand that social mobility piece you claim to get, but clearly don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:02 PM
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I mean there’s a reason women talk about social proof and dating from our social circles. Going out on essentially a blind date has a very minimal chance of a good or effective use of our time. It’s more stressful, more dangerous, and a huge waste majority of the time. If we know each other from our community or social circles, if we’ve interacted in group settings, we both know enough of the other person to have that initial trust factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:58 PM
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My big one isn’t dating specific, it’s just human specific. But we sit kids down at a desk for 8 hours a day and lecture at them and then are astounded when they didn’t retain any of the information. The schedule itself needs an overhaul. It’s loosely based off the factory 9-5 schedule, but educational research figured out a long time ago that this 8 hours a day thing isn’t conducive to an effective learning environment. All of the research is there, accessibility and diversity in the classrooms…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:53 PM
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I mean I agree but in my experience the kinky people are the ones more than comfortable to talk about sex. The prudish people are the ones uncomfy talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:57 PM
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Women often say they’re kinky, high libido, and open to trying new things, but it turns out to be false advertising to keep a guy around. Nah… Even kinky women with high libidos still may not wanna fuck you dude. Just a fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:29 PM
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Women’s introspection is overthinking. That’s not a gendered thing tho. That’s just what it is for humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:27 PM
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No brainwashing, just educated on history + a self interest in women’s choice historically. (Haven’t you ever wondered how you’d fare if you had been born 100 yrs ago?) For your information those women didn’t “take” a lower status job, they were born into a lower status job. Same as low status men. Only where even low status men born to say the town drunk could make something of themself and go apprentice at the blacksmith and move up in the world. A young woman’s only option was marriage or pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:26 PM
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No. Why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:19 PM
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You chose to enter into a relationship with someone who’s sexually incompatible. That was your choice. I know as many women as men that are a bit more flexible and experimental in terms of sex, it’s not a gendered trait as you seem to have observed. Perhaps your own experience isn’t as objective as you presume.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:17 PM
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Are women less capable of introspection than men? In my experience it’s quite the opposite. But in general I’d wager there’s no gendered relevance to this trait and it’s just personal experience 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:12 PM
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It seems women rely way more on an infrastructure and system than men do, also on a social life, to compensate for relying less on a husband or family. I think that’s your personal perspective you’re mistaking for objective reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:10 PM
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I think you’ve misunderstood the og comment. Women saying ‘I don’t need a man’ are talking about their personal/sexual/romantic life. They’re not suggesting they don’t need community or society. They’re not saying they don’t want male friends, coworkers, or family members. It’s the same as a man saying ‘I don’t need a woman’. That’s factually correct, for his own fulfillment and happiness he doesn’t. That doesn’t mean he’s supergluing an open wound rather than going to the ER and having a female…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:47 PM
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That makes no sense in the context of your comment or this conversation. Most people will call the plumber when their toilet breaks, that’s not a gendered trait, that’s just a fact of life for modern society. But that person needing to hire a plumber doesn’t negate the validity of their choice to enjoy their life solo, regardless if they’re a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:37 PM
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We have an entire generation of Alpha Widows that are acting like a clot on the whole system. Please explain your thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:23 PM
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To be fair, women are told the same to “decentralize men” or some shit, even when they know very well they need eventually to call a plumber that is almost certainly a male Do you honestly not notice the difference between those two things? Lmk + I’ll explain it to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:21 PM
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A woman going in a date with a man to a non-public place? That’s rape according to women. a beach is literally a public place rape is by definition sexual assault. take your own advice & stop lying and acting ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:03 PM
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If you don’t enjoy spending time with yourself then why would I? That’s what it boils down to. Lonely people are miserable, no one wants to add that energy to their life. Lonely people go into relationships expecting all of their problems to be fixed, and look to a partner to provide all the solutions. That’s a fools’ hope and an unappealing opportunity. If you’re not content & balanced on your own, then I don’t want to date you. I’m not looking for a project. That’s all that advice means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:02 PM
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Walk on the beach means “rape” and women refuse to send a dime in a man. what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:52 AM
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Women never had to marry out of necessity. At minimum 10% to 20% through out history did not marry. You’re joking, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:51 AM
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he’s exactly correct. No. He’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:25 PM
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It’s a well known fact that women lose attraction at the slightest hint of emotional vulnerability It’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:23 PM
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It’s basic Redpill theory. It’s laughably incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:15 PM
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Most heterosexual women are sexually attracted to other women as well I don’t think you understand the term: heterosexual
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:13 PM
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So no. You don’t understand that very basic fact. .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:16 AM
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How do you know that? Because when I see women do shitty things like this and ask them wtf were they thinking, they don’t credit some ‘womansphere’, they just admit they’re being an asshole. However when men do shitty things irl and are asked why they do them, way too many of them have literally credited the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:17 AM
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People are so fast to dismiss this fact when it’s a man talking about how his experiences with women who are cheaters and gold diggers gave him a bad impression of women. Dude. No one’s intentionally dismissing that. You just didn’t include that in your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:14 AM
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I think those women are assholes. See my previous comments. But for the most part there’s not a dedicated side of the internet for that discourse, it’s not prescriptive as it is personal. I don’t think women see content like that and have their own version of reality warped to suddenly treat men differently, like we’ve seen time and time again thanks to manosphere content creators poaching on impressionable and lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:08 AM
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Also the distinction is red-pill goes around saying “this is how the world works. This is how all men are. This is how all women are” It’s the made up facts and delusion mistaken for reality that’s largely the harmful part.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:57 AM
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I’m talking about the perception of a singular man, not the world. The probability that you’re going to encounter every single man in the world in your life time is 0% Your question specifically focused on communities and the perception of that community as a whole on a single person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:55 AM
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Honestly no. One person being an asshole and doing a bad thing has a very small impact on the world overall. But being an asshole, doing the bad thing and then going online to convert everyone else to your ideology has a very large and toxic impact on the world. (Not defending either action of course, just as a stranger I’m not personally policing other individuals to make better choices. Just those glued to a microphone spewing hateful shit.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:44 AM
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I can’t say I’ve ever even heard of Tate outside of this sub. Nor have I ever listened to him. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:35 AM
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Any reasonable woman isn’t going to think all men are like these men. But how would you successfully avoid the ones who are like that? Aren’t redpillers big on saying the right thing to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:03 AM
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It’s telling how performative modern feminism is that it only cares about the one thing and not the other. You do know that not all women are feminists, right? Please tell me you know this very basic fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:01 AM
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No, because I’ll run into my red pill neighbor who’s an asshole. Then I’ll go to work and here coworkers in the cubicle next to mine share alpha dating advice. I’ll check my texts and see a group text from a friend who accidentally went on a date with a redpiller and how awful of a choice that was. I’m not saying all women understand what redpill means, but it is absolutely a known term & it’s synonymous with a neon red flag ever since Andrew Tate took over TikTok three years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:51 AM
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Dude I am telling you they absolutely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:47 AM
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No, we definitely do. I mean it's the year 2024 and it's still the default for women to take their husband's name upon marriage in even some of the most liberal western countries. Women can't even get their tubes tied without their husbands' permission. .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:47 AM
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At least 89 of them would go "like andrew tate?". You literally cannot escape it especially if you're Gen Z/Millenial & have a vagina. Y'all have made the world a worse place in general, the reason those women know the term is because they use it field out guys they don't want to alone in a room with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:45 AM
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Women IRL have never even heard of these communities. Dude redpill's been on mainstream media for years now. .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:32 AM
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It's seeped into mainstream media. It encourages men to be misogynistic assholes, and that's not just online, that's irl interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:31 AM
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patriarchy =\= men It’s a system of power held in place by everyone. Academically it’s defined by a history where power and property passed down paternal lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:25 AM
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Patriarchy is based as fuck and women shouldn’t have rights. White birthrates are the lowest globally (below replacement) and yet our women have the best lives, see what happens when we give you rights? What the actual fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:24 AM
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Dude even mainstream media’s been flooded by manosphere bullshit for years now. Also, you know that we have to interact with men in our daily lives? And you know what makes that hard? When men think less of you because you have a vagina. The misogyny doesn’t exist exclusively online. It exists in the irl behaviors and interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:17 AM
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Dude even mainstream media’s been flooded by manosphere bullshit for years now. Also, you know that we have to interact with men in our daily lives? And you know what makes that hard? When men think less of you because you have a vagina. The misogyny doesn’t exist exclusively online. It exists in the irl behaviors and interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:17 AM
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It’s seeped into everything dude. Even mainstream media’s been flooded by manosphere bullshit for years now. You know that we have to interact with men in our daily lives? And you know what makes that hard? When men think less of you because you have a vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:14 AM
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It’s seeped into everything dude. Even mainstream media’s been flooded by manosphere bullshit for years now. You know that we have to interact with men in our daily lives? And you know what makes that hard? When men think less of you because you have a vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:14 AM
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seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:07 AM
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Do you believe that men of the man-o-sphere/red-pill/black-pill communities ruin it for men as a whole? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:05 AM
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Prostitutes will prefer to work solo ilegally and take 100% of their income Do you have any evidence to even try & back these wild claims? or are we all equally aware that this is just your delusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:57 PM
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Prostitutes don’t like paying taxes (can you blame them?) such a dumb and pointless comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:42 PM
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But at least this would give them a legal avenue to get transactional sex without having to fly overseas to third world countries. I mean I’m more concerned with the health and safety of sex workers. An illegal occupation isn’t regulated, is dangerously exploited, and doesn’t offer health benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:27 PM
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I mean I’ve been all for legalization and regulation of prostitution for ethical and societal reasons. Do I think it would have the effects OP is suggesting? 🤷🏼‍♀️eh that’s largely debatable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:14 PM
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I want more meaningless commercalization of relationships sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:33 PM
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Not if prostitution is legal and regulated. It’d be as out in the open as going to the drs. Hard to hide it from your wife when there’s receipts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:32 PM
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I think there’s a distinction here that needs to be addressed. Just because any guy could be a bad guy, doesn’t mean that every guy is a bad guy. Being cautious, keeping yourself safe, having boundaries- none of those are excuses to be an asshole. So don’t hang around assholes just because you think you can fix her. Also just don’t be that asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:31 PM
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It would help those who just want to have sex Yes, those people would exit the dating market clearing the path for you to pursue a real relationship with less competition
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:22 PM
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Uh dude it would destroy the dating market for women... If all you think you get from a woman is sex, then I’m totally fine with whatever happens to the dating market when guys like you leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:12 PM
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I think you’re misunderstanding what egalitarianism is . . ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:19 PM
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Probably the majority given: the data on relationships irl the limited demographics that hang out on apps like Reddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:11 PM
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Because I’ve compared this in real time. Women talk about this shit. We describe the new guy we’re seeing in drooling detail and then when our friends finally meet him they’re confused as to why you find that potato so attractive and alluring. Lived in multiple countries, on both coasts across the US, urban and rural. Everywhere people in general, including women, have individual preferences of what they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:06 PM
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That’s not what he’s saying tho. But to your point specifically, you’re conflating two distinct thoughts. The average person does not find the majority of people attractive. That is a fact. But that does not mean that the minority of people I find attractive are the same small group of people you find attractive. The fact of the former is not proof of the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:55 PM
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The things are I take in account dating statistic preferences (races, height, wide jaw, etc) plus dating apps statistic help me to draw a more accurate true about what women find attractive and how they behave with someone they see as attractive. The issue is you’re conflating the habits of women on dating apps with all women. If you took five seconds to read the data you claim to know so much about you’d recognize the gender gap on dating apps, and realize how silly it is to assume the minority…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:32 PM
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No. Your individual experience and the experience of one other individual are not actually evidence of universal reality for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:19 PM
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It’s not the truth bro. It’s delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:15 PM
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Do you ever get tired making up the narrative of ‘what women are thinking’? (you’re so confidently wrong about it too, surely there’s a better use of your time lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:08 PM
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Would they? Have you actually heard them say that? Yes. We specifically talk about this stuff. Especially in the early days of dating you describe your new guy to your girlfriends and it’s very obvious what parts of their appearance they’re drooling over. Then you meet them and it’s laughably impossible to match that description to the physical person in front of you lol Seems to me women often end up with partners they don’t find hot. Duh, people online complain a lot. That’s not unique or spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:01 PM
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Many guys told me that my lack of success with women is that I’m “below average” Sounds like this should be a question for men. There’s no universal version of attractive, women have unique preferences and opinions. My friends would describe their partners as attractive and hot, and I rarely ever see it. I’m sure they’ve found my previous partners equally unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:44 PM
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Data consistently shows more more single men than women It doesn’t, no data supports that. Data does show more young single men than young single women, is that what you were trying to cite?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:11 PM
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Because more women are happy and fulfilled enjoying their life solo. There’s less women on the dating market because there’s less women wanting to date. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:56 PM
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This is just straight-up misinformation bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:42 AM
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Varied 80/20. I think each and every one of my friends partner’s are ugly as heck, but they find them the hottest type of person in the whole world. To each their own 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:44 PM
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Because your solution is dumb as fuck. Also, I think men are grown adults fully capable of controlling their own behaviors. Your attempts to infantilize them are unhelpful and so very toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:24 PM
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What red herring? This is literally the solution you suggested
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:22 PM
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Found her alter account lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:20 PM
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It exists for users staring directly into the camera or directly in the line of sight of the camera. It does not exist in a 3dimensional multi-angle scenario like OP’s suggesting, mainly because no one’s wasted their time to make tech like that work. In a gym you could be laying down, sitting, squatting, standing, or atop a piece of exercise equipment facing any direction in 360 degrees. You would need not only a camera placed directly at the right eye level and location to track your eye moveme…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:19 PM
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We’ve all seen the “All red-pillers got cheated on by a woman” talking point used to ridicule them. We have?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:14 PM
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I’m just gonna quote myself and be done with whatever idiocy you’re attempting multiple levels, angles + heights? Pretend like you’ve been in a gym before, + recognize how many different positions there are, how many different directions you could be facing that’s one camera from one direction, and people looking at that camera. Not fifty from fifty different locations/directions. it’s not a software problem, quite literally it’s a hardware problem. How would you get the amount of cameras in tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:58 PM
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From ONE camera what do you not understand about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:48 PM
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but when women in tight shirts keep walking past me…I’m only human ew
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:44 PM
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That’s a problem for software. It has been solved over 5 years ago. No it hasn’t. Even in that video that’s one camera and one person. Not fifty from fifty different locations/directions. And it’s not a software problem, quite literally it’s a hardware problem. How would you get the amount of cameras in that space you’d need to cover any and all possible eyesight from every angle?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:39 PM
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and uses mass surveillance techniques in the same way that making guns illegal doesn’t make life better. Nope, not the same way. Like at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:33 PM
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There is a difference between whining and not doing anything. And whining and wanting a completely different group of people to fix it for you. You should tell the men here that, this would be news to most of them!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:30 PM
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Yeah because it’s definitely a gendered trait and not a human one to complain without any action to fix the situation /s 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:27 PM
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Typical. Women have a problem and instead of them solving it they go around and whine about men not solving it for them. Dude read the comments before you go generalizing all of women like that. This is a woman sharing a stupid ass idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:19 PM
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Why would they not just join a women’s only gym? Eye tracking tech from multiple levels, angles + heights? Pretend like you’ve been in a gym before, + recognize how many different positions there are, how many different directions you could be facing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:18 PM
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You do know blind people don’t tend to wear sunglasses irl? That’s a movie thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:03 PM
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vs getting men to curb their biological instincts. You were so close to making a decent point. And then you went there. Do tell us, what biological instinct is so impossible to curb in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:02 PM
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I don’t think this is a big enough gender-related issue to waste our resources ‘fixing’ It’s a dumb solution involving imaginary tech that doesn’t currently exist No one wants to live in a surveillance state.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:59 PM
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Cameras could track eye contact from the males and if a woman is in his line of sight, a timer would begin. If, after some grace period, eye contact persists, his membership could be flagged. You’re joking, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:52 PM
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We used to have literal theater commanders conquering entire nations at 21 years old. Now modern 21 year olds act like children. Yeah- ever wonder why there was so much blood and violence? You let children with brains still developing lead wars. There was no reason, or temperance, only emotional deregulation, anger and mood swings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:48 PM
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We wait longer to have kids because of capitalism, not because it’s better for us. It’s also better for the kids. Age adds maturity and security, things like patient and emotional regulation are crucial when raising healthy kids. I’d argue the moves we’re making against generational trauma are thanks to people choosing to have kids when they’re emotionally ready, rather than being saddled with them when they’re still trying to grow up themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:33 PM
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But that’s not what’s happening, at least in big media. OP’s complaint is that whenever there’s newsworthy violence/harassment/misogyny the person’s character is described, including the attribute of single.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:48 PM
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Alright I’m down for some regulations like that. The monopoly is a concern for one, and it seems reasonable to me that any apps running a public service like that should be not-for-profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:45 PM
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How are those conflated topics and not just accurate depictions of people enacting such behaviors?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:27 AM
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I’m not arguing that at all. I am arguing that we would’ve ended up there even if feminism never reared its ‘ugly head’. I’d also point out that feminists didn’t do that, women did. They’re not synonymous. I think I’m done with this conversation, but you enjoy imagining a world where women don’t have the right to vote and pretend that racism doesn’t exist there and that tearing down the largest progressive advocacy group is the fastest way to other progressive social movements like prison reform…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:06 AM
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I don’t think you effectively understand how expensive healthcare is in America. Like before the diapers, and the car seats, and nursery, do you know the cost of prenatal care and then childbirth? Do you know that the average family cannot afford rent without two full time salaries, but women only get 6 weeks unpaid maternity leave max at the majority of companies in this country. Paternal leave is utterly nonexistent. Yes America has a lot of wealth, but that wealth has come from a for profit h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:00 AM
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I’m saying we could draw a dot between caucasian patriarchal government and modern for-profit prisons. (get it because a line between here and here is a dot?)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:56 AM
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I mean it definitely did but it wasn’t rooted against POC at all, most historians cite specific ‘anti-Irish immigrants’ as the specific root cause of that. Like I said, everything was racist, that’s how our whole world was built. It’s shitty and it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:44 AM
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Fertility isn’t a left-right issue. It’s an economic issue. At least in the US it’s largely unaffordable to have kids. Those that are reproducing tend to have religious qualms with birth control and abortion, so reasonably they’re gonna have the baby no matter how broke it makes them and their growing family. I wish it was a viable option to have a family. That would be amazing. But when you can barely afford yourself, why on earth would you bring a kid into that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:39 AM
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She’s a whore who slept her way up and also wasn’t good enough to breed with. Sucking some cock doesn’t make her special. Any woman can do that. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:36 AM
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how it seems more acceptable to blame single or sexless men for a number of problems with society What problems exactly are we blaming on single men? Where are these accusations happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:36 AM
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No shit. Everything has a history of racism. But feminists were marching alongside poc for desegregation when the rest of the world wasn’t. Feminism has a far longer history of civil rights advocacy than almost any other organized movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:34 AM
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You can’t perpetuate your civilization on your own children either. By your reasoning republican parents raise Republican kids to live in a Republican world- but that’s not how it largely works, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:28 AM
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Then by your own reasoning wouldn’t feminism have been about equal rights and not enfranchisement? They’re synonymous phrases and in this case they mean the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:23 AM
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No I don’t see how any of my previous comment would be reason to delete dating apps to prove anything. I’m a coffee first date kind of person. Don’t assume things about me to try and score some internet points. Instead read my comments and recognize the valid perspective I’m offering.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:20 AM
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Nothing to debate here, I agree. Odd to see a sane and well-reasoned perspective on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:16 AM
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I genuinely don’t see big media talk about the loneliness epidemic or chronically single people of either gender. I definitley don’t see this against single men as you seem to suggest. The only reason it’s a topic on national tv now is because the Republican VP nominee made a public statement against it. (Well that an the GOP’s political stance on reproductive rights)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:14 AM
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investing anything more than a simple coffee for the first date is investing based soely on looks No it’s not. It’s investing on the potential there of a relationship. It’s betting romance and hope and optimism. Some people think that risk is too high and won’t bet on it with the cost of restaurant. Other’s think the potential future is more than worth the gamble. Either is completely fair and valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:10 AM
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I don’t agree. You’re equating a dinner date as an expensive date, those aren’t inherently the same thing. You’re also equating people that prefer a dinner date with shallow and vain people, those also aren’t inherently the same thing. I don’t think preferring a formal dinner makes you vain or shallow. It’s old fashioned sure, an artifact of a more romantic time. But I don’t think it voids any future complaint against said man if some other issue arises.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:04 AM
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This comes down to shared values. If your idea of a first date is a cup of coffee then you should date someone who shares that view. If you’re someone who values a nice meal out and dressing up, then you should date someone who shares that value. Neither person is wrong or hypocritical for their values, they just clearly shouldn’t be dating each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:59 PM
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Feminism isn’t about equal rights. It’s about enfranchisement. Those two sentences mean the same thing bro
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:51 PM
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If some dude like cured cancer but never had sex you would still kind of look down on him be honest. No. Why the fuck would you care about the sex life of a perfect stranger?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:55 PM
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feminism, is at best a marginal net positive for men. No duh. At no point was equal rights for women pitched as a gain for men at all. Not everything is about men, that’s the whole point. If you squint, you could argue that advancements for women also befit men because men live with women. You would think so but centuries of female oppression whilst still living with men would really argue otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:52 PM
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Which apps would you ban?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:50 PM
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Do you think any man can be sexually successful ? I am going to define sexually successful in this case as multiple women wanting him, weather that be for relationships or just sex. No, given that limiting definition of success I’d argue there are plenty of people regardless of gender that will never achieve that specific success.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:10 PM
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Could one be successful if they are sexually a failure ? Why are those the two options? That or be a failure? You’re valuing quantity over quality here and it makes no sense to actual life satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:08 PM
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Women all fuck the same small number of men. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:54 PM
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and start enacting top down changes to society Okay, let’s talk about it. What social reform do you think would fix these issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:25 PM
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and social media has ruined women’s everyone’s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:23 PM
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The difference is the core values of feminism is anti male. It’s not. If you hear ‘pro-women’ and think ‘anti-male’ then you need to do some soul searching and figure out why you see the two diametrically opposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:17 PM
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Dude that’s an opinion piece from over a decade ago that clearly never went anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:52 PM
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By equitable healthcare rights do you mean abortion? Reproductive rights are one facet of that yes, but it’s not exclusively abortion. It’s access to women’s reproductive health, which is the added routine health and maintenance of having a uterus, menstruation, menopause, endometriosis, PID, fibroids, PMDD etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:10 AM
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Advocating for discrimination in education/employment to favor women at our expense is “protecting women”? Yes. Because 50 years ago women were not commonly accepted into institutions or given the same opportunities because of their gender. Downplaying female perpetration and male victimization when it comes to IPV and sexual violence is “protecting women”? Advocating for female victims of violence in no way downplays male victims. Specific actions were needed to help abused women and children, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:04 AM
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They want domination, and revenge for sins that they never suffered. No. We literally just want equal opportunities and equitable healthcare rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:58 AM
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Bullshit. All the examples I gave are not merely overlooking/ignoring men’s issues, they’re actively contributing to them. No they’re all examples where specific action was taken to protect women. They’re not actively doing anything to men. Passively sure men are feeling the effects, hence why I described it as harmful oversight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:54 AM
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Imo I don’t think those constitute as hostility. At best I could argue harmful oversight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:37 AM
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But feminism is hostility against a heteronormative ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:33 AM
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But you’re assuming hostility where there largely isn’t. Don’t get me wrong, misandry runs amuck for sure, and those people deserve the same disrespect they dish out. But it’s laughable to paint an entire advocacy group with the same large brush you’re complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:32 AM
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Hostility towards the feminist movement by MRA’s is completely justified. You see no irony in that statement, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:22 AM
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Pretty sure most men on here don’t care what women have to say, period. Much less what we have to say about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:22 AM
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Making single trendy might help eliminate that. How on earth do you see women making that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:56 AM
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If they want kids then they’re conservative, ime. Granted that’s likely a regional thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:54 AM
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Wow that’s a rough perspective you have on the world there hon. Maybe take some time off of the internet to find some perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:47 AM
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That doesn’t track with the data I’ve read on the subject. But you’re entitled to your personal opinion I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:45 AM
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No I’m just very confused what you mean by: A whole generation of men have been insulted, mocked and gaslighted for existing. How has anyone been gaslighted for existing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:17 AM
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A whole generation of men have been insulted, mocked and gaslighted for existing. what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:05 AM
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If this is real, then it definitely sounds like cokehead behavior. Raise your standards a smidge hon. Your time and energy is worth more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:45 AM
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hate Men so much they’re willing to hate Women who even slightly could possibly be seen to love being a parent of a boy You’re not understanding the joke if you think that’s why ‘boy moms’ are getting hate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:36 AM
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What an oddly narrow and specific perspective you have on the world of office jobs. . thank god it’s an individual perspective and not actually evidence of a wide status quo!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:34 PM
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The wage gap theories have mostly been disproven in recent years as studies finally took personal choice into consideration. Why do people pretend to have read studies when it’s very clearly obvious they have not read up to date studies on such topics?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:32 PM
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most research shows that the motherhood penalty is the by far the primary if not the sole reason for the wage gap. This is so accurate, and I’ll add that even the perception of potential motherhood is a penalty that lots of women face. Whether or not kids are in the cards for you, our society assumes that women will inevitably bear children and lots of upper management works under those biases when promoting and mentoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:23 PM
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No, but the data shows a significant gender gap. Majority of upper management are older dudes, and turns out they’re more likely to promote people that are like them. There’s also recorded evidence that married women or women with kids who are the breadwinners are lousier investments, even compared to married men with kids. There’s a clear disparity here, and it’s not what’s commonly brushed aside as “male ambition”. There’s plenty of ambition on both sides, same for professional accomplishments…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:10 PM
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I mean I think statistically more women are happier staying single and enjoying their life on their own than men are. And the women that prefer a relationship do put in the leg work to find themselves the right partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:07 PM
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Pretty soon, women will realize that the men who chase them the most are often those who are only interested in one thing. This might even encourage women to take more initiative because, at the end of the day, who wants to be in a relationship with men who think with their dick instead of men that value mutual effort and respect? Hate to break it to you hon, but you’re essentially describing the current status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:57 PM
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Paying someone less on the basis of gender is illegal in much of the West But passing over someone for promotion isn’t. Studies show women are less likely to get promoted even when asking for promotions at the same rate of their male coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:52 PM
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Idk if it’s a matter of pride . . laziness perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:49 PM
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Fully support you doing what’s best for you and your energy 💕 Think it’s a bit questionable if this experiment would draw the results you’re looking for, but who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:46 PM
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Women on average choose lower-paying fields, work less hours, women are not willing to commute longer distances, motherhood and childcare affects them more, women are less likely to job-hop or to ask for a raise, women take fewer professional risks The word choice of “choose” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here . . In practice it’s not really about choice or willingness, it’s just how life works out. If you have kids and they get sick at school, who’s leaving their big meeting to go pick them u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:45 PM
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Women do not inject ‘reason’ - don’t be silly, women are greatest ambassadors of manosphere. Explain your thought process please
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:14 PM
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Nobody is talking like that here. I mean, they do. All the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:13 PM
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reading hard For you it must be. Try rereading these comments again and maybe you’ll understand what that sentence actually means.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:12 PM
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”when men also have a strong conscious desire for social dominance” It’s about their goals & actions aligning. Not the particular actions itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:04 PM
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That study refers to preliminary competition for women’s attention. Its’ findings just don’t apply to inside relationships. Social dominance =\= attractiveness. That study specifically says that “testosterone is associated with dominance behaviors and success when men compete for the attention of an attractive woman, particularly when men also have a strong conscious desire for social dominance.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:01 PM
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Bitching about it is just trying to invade men’s spaces and make them change their behavior because you don’t like it. This isn’t a men’s space.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:59 PM
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It’s not just online, women are terrible at reading and communicating with men in general and have no will to improve that either. If someone is continually having their words misinterpreted by others, then the fault lies with the communicator not the listener. That’s just basic human linguistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:45 PM
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Our findings indicate that testosterone is associated with dominance behaviors and success when men compete for the attention of an attractive woman, particularly when men also have a strong conscious desire for social dominance. Yeah. . this doesn’t apply to your post’s topic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:42 PM
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Why are you conflating low testosterone in men with less attraction from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:31 PM
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Exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:27 PM
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I think it’s much more pathetic on the “internet normies” though, because they are the ones asserting superiority. You mean like you’re doing with this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:10 PM
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If our aim is to heat up emotions and bring in followers then this is very reasonable. That doesn’t make it reasonable. That just makes it intentional. They use emotionally loaded language because they’re emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:08 PM
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It’s a certain style of communication that seems horribly offensive to outsiders who takes it literally, but becomes much more reasonable if you actually understand it. By your own admission it’s purposefully offensive. . that’s not reasonable. I could be as purposefully racist or homophobic as I want, but that doesn’t make me reasonable in acting that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:05 PM
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Great. So let’s have that discussion instead of rehashing why men hate feminism. The irony is, if a lot of men did more listening and understanding then reactive anger we’d be a lot further in our collective goals of making this crappy world slightly better for all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:43 PM
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The notion that the patriarchy is perpetuated by men It’s not. It’s perpetuated by everyone. is what justifies being against men in the first palce. It’s not against men. It’s against a system of power that disempowers women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:29 PM
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When the word is used in real life it usually refers to men in general. No it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:25 PM
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You know that patriarchy =\= men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:19 PM
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We are all responsible for upholding the patriarchy. By settling for tradition rather than questioning the status-quo we are all perpetuating a flawed system that disempowers girls and levies unattainable expectations on boys. It stems from a legal precedent of power where the father or eldest male was head of the family and descent is traced through the male line, and it evolved from there to become an abused system of power to intentionally deny people opportunities based on their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:11 PM
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In the scenario you two were having sex so you put in effort as did they. Then it’s no one’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:37 PM
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Depends. Was there an effort on their part to contribute to my orgasm? An orgasm isn’t a guarantee, but an effort is absolutely required imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:22 PM
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Because they buy into an estimation of value where men gain value when they have sex, and women lose value by having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:55 PM
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You’d be genuinely surprised on both fronts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:47 AM
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You do know that there are Muslim feminists. . right? Just like there are Christian feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:41 AM
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feminist especially in Europe have to realize that their days are numbered. Explain what you mean by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:38 AM
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every big corporation is progressive They are not. white people are on the verge of extinction Also not. Christianity has had one foot in the grave for decades This is factually accurate. and 28% of gen z is LGBTQ. and that’s not a bad thing. In what universe is conservatism or the right wing at all winning? In the world where women’s reproductive rights are political fodder, public education is criminally underfunded, infrastructure has no plans for improvement under a Republican administration…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:26 AM
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did you mean to reply to me or OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:18 AM
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conservatism is already dead you have won that fight. you’re joking, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:13 AM
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When you tell anecdotes do you share how those moments made you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:32 PM
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You can share your hopes and ambitions, share your worries or minor anxieties. Doesn’t have to be real trauma spilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:20 PM
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No. Clinton won the popular vote. Trump won the electoral college. We don’t really live in a democracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:16 PM
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Did you misread the og comment here hon? Comprehensive skills lacking in this subreddit. I thought liberal arts were a women’s strong suit lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:43 PM
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Well what sort of relationship is your ideal? If you’re dreaming of a wife that stays home & raises your kids then you’re shooting yourself in the foot by doing a split test. That sort of woman is looking for a man that’s a provider. But if your ideal is a more equitable relationship with a woman who works and makes her own way, then sure ask to split the check on the first date. (My advice bring this up when planning/scheduling the date, don’t wait till the check comes to the table to bring thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:38 PM
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Dude please google Project 2025’s education plan before you assume that the left are the ones threatening public education in this country.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:36 AM
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Grammar != comprehension sure. . but comprehensive =\= comprehension either . . .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:19 AM
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Women actively blame men for being the majority of the homless and the majority of suicides whenever those problems are brought up. How do they blame men for those systemic issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:52 PM
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You let fear and helplessness rule your life. No. I just don’t compliment men because it’s not worth the trouble. Only one losing out on anything is men, not me 💁🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:38 PM
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How is that victim complex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:31 PM
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Well good for you. Most of us women learned early on the bad shit that accompanies complimenting a random guy. So we don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:10 PM
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Comprehensive skills lacking in this subreddit. I thought liberal arts were a women’s strong suit lmao. You mixed the singular and plural. It’s either women’s or a woman’s. But tell us again how “comprehensive skills are lacking in this subreddit”, especially amongst women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:05 PM
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You’ve clearly never given a man a polite compliment that was then taken as an open invitation to be sexually harassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:57 PM
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when sex occurs, the male wins, and the female loses Is that your opinion? Or just your observation of the current dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:51 PM
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Gay men love men love men’s bodies more than women do No shit. Generally you appreciate the body parts you have and aspire to those of other people. It’s why women compliment other women so much. It’s also why guys notice other guys height, muscles, build, far more than women do. None of that means one loves the other more, or even that one’s more sexually attracted to the other. You’re just naturally more comfortable with whatever body parts were next to you in the locker room in 6th grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:44 PM
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none
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:35 PM
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None. I’m not interested in dating rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:32 PM
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