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| 0 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantAnd here’s a differing result: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1995-24993-001 And another: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1025894203368 Here’s in in FAVOR of your claim (to show I’m not cherry picking): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-006-9075-2 Here’s a middle of the road one: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00926239908404010?casa_token=-MgZAz_ow4EAAAAA:MpIJEmMeUSufomGUd1auF_zHN1q3kG6WjB-yy0tCuZqoBOBvhZuvE-JP7Z-aCtVnrlAH0C6Os38 The point I’m making is th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 08:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantBut I know what you really want: You’re so smart! That dumb professor was totally duped by your awesome deductive reasoning! Wow! He was slack jawed with amazement. Good job, Timmy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 05:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantYes but you are still thinking “continuously” in terms of attraction. Let’s be explicit. Let f(a,X) be an desire function. The bigger f is, the more you like someone. a is attractiveness, X is a vector of everything else, including kindness. Let a_ be the minimal attractiveness level you (personal level) are willing to date above (you are not interested in people below this level). My claim For ai < a < a_j f(a_i, X_i) < f(a_j, X_j) for all X_i, X_j And d f(a, Xi)/ d a = 0 for all a < a (note st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 05:35 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt means “pick me.” It’s just a more eloquent way of saying it. Duh /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 03:34 AM |
| 2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantWell when you put in in all caps like that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 01:02 AM |
| 3 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantFor the 100th time: Once you are already attracted to someone, kindness and a million other things matter. I have never denied that. If that’s your claim, I don’t disagree with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 12:56 AM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantGood for you. You have my support | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 12:16 AM |
| 5 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantWhere was I supposed to infer they were unfuckable? Obviously we have very different opinions about how the average man and woman would behave | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 12:15 AM |
| 2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantIf I was attracted to both? Yes. If I was only attracted to the mean one? No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 12:07 AM |
| 5 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThat is not counter to my assertion. I’m saying a woman cannot go from unfuckable to fuckable by virtue of being nice. Likewise for a man. Men might have a low bar, but it still has to be crossed before kindness and stuff start to matter for romance and sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 11:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThat’s interesting, and it may be true that men extract a strong signal from kindness, but what does that have to do with attraction? Are you saying a man would become attracted to a woman he previously wasn’t attracted to simply because she was kind? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 11:53 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantSee my response to your other comment. I think we just view attractiveness differently. I don’t have a precise scale in my mind. I merely have a threshold that must be crossed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 11:00 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantI’ve said causes multiple times in multiple comments. I chose that word for a reason. That is the crux of the issue. That is why your example doesn’t work. I am attracted to both the 9 and the 10. So you are correct: I would date the 9. I am, personally, however, not a fan of these scales. I think of an attractiveness “bar.” Once it is passed, many other variables gain importance. Below the bar, as superficial as it is, I cannot see myself allowing other, “noble,” factors moving someone over it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:58 PM |
| 7 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantWell once again… we arrive at a place where two people have different experiences. So, there is nothing to argue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantDo you have a source for that claim? I will concede my point if you can show me that kindness CAUSES attraction. Otherwise, it’s just an opinion like every other one on this site. What does being a professor have anything to do with it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:42 PM |
| 5 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantShe has to be nice/kind and attractive. She cannot be only one or other. In particular, someone who is only kind but not attractive is not a future girlfriend. She might be a great friend, but not a romantic partner. Someone who is super hot but mean might be a one night stand or hookup. But she wouldn’t be my friend or ltr. Make sense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:38 PM |
| 5 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThat’s not inconsistent with what I’m saying. Do you find your fiancée attractive? If the answer is yes , then we don’t disagree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:01 PM |
| 14 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantYes. And they are my friends. Not my girlfriends. When I have a girlfriend, she is nice and attractive. What so hard to see here?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:50 PM |
| 12 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantI don’t disagree, necessarily. If you don’t pass an attractiveness threshold, niceness will not push you over it. And that’s true for both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:48 PM |
| 11 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantYou would fuck a woman because she’s really really nice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:30 PM |
| 14 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantI’m talking about a causal relationship. Niceness would never cause me to be attracted to someone. Everything else equal? Sure I definitely want a kind partner. But no amount of kindness is going to get me hard if I don’t find her attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:29 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantAre you replying to right person? That’s not what I said. I said kindness and goodness are non-sexual. You can be hot and kind. You can be ugly and kind. Being kind is good because it’s the “right thing to do,” not because it makes you hotter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:24 PM |
| 9 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantI think he’s saying the opposite: Women actively prefer mean men. I’m saying that it is orthogonal: kindness is non-sexual quality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:22 PM |
| 10 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantHe’s saying women actively dislike kindness and men are neutral | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:54 PM |
| 15 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantThe problem with this sub, and I am not blaming you or me or anyone else, is that now I’m going to say: In my experience, I have not seen what you have seen. And now we are stuck | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:51 PM |
| 59 | CMV: There are plenty of good men out there, but there’s a shortage of high value good men which are the men women actually wantIn the end, kindness and goodness are not sexually arousing qualities for either gender. They are qualities you would want the person you are physically attracted to to possess, but they don’t cause attraction. I pick my friends based on their goodness (and other qualities). I pick my relationships based on the same characteristics AND attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:31 PM |
| – | Women do not decide what a man’s value is, and the idea that “if you can’t get her she’s out of your league“ is nonsenseOP, I’ll help you out: You’re super attractive and hot. The women are wrong. I’d fuck you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 06:09 PM |
| – | Things might be obvious to you and annoying to be asked for sources but Ithink obvious things should still have sourcesHard to have sources with most of the posts are unfalsifiable claims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 04:48 PM |
| 4 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAn observation about Reddit that is especially true on debate subs like this: I think a lot of people come here for their daily dose of intellectual validation, and that is why people are so abrasive. The personal stakes are too high. Everybody needs to chill. Coming across as smart or barely functional on Reddit has no bearing on anything. Now breathe and relax | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI know lots of people in category one, but very few in category two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhat is your definition of a nerd? I’m actually quite curious in a general sense. I feel this is a malleable term | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadDoes on average count?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 12:06 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYou’re preaching to choir (not that I’m a metal head) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 11:41 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadPhysical or personality trait that I don’t possess? Must be a symptom of being the devil | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 11:36 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI can’t believe there are actual sincere posts about “women don’t like nice guys.” Or that post about attractive people actually being heartless. In fact, this whole sub has become one giant “revenge of the nerds” fantasy playground. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 10:28 PM |
| 5 | Western women, how can you compete against an eastern/foreign woman?Why is foreignness even relevant? Woman likes man, man likes woman. They get together. Woman likes man, man likes different woman. She moves on or tries to “win” his affection. That’s the scenario you’re describing. Why is it different than the way dating has been before? Of course you can switch genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 06:57 PM |
| 1 | Women getting all these degrees is really just intrasexual warfare the upper classes and beta males trying to take all the women.My TA doesn’t sit in class. She doesn’t know the students. So no… try again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 06:08 AM |
| 2 | Women getting all these degrees is really just intrasexual warfare the upper classes and beta males trying to take all the women.Well my TA does all the grading… so I guess she doesn’t like alpha males? Red pill debunked? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 09:44 PM |
| 2 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?Easy is relative, especially on this sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4a How sexually demanding are you in relationships?Normal sexual frequency is a wide range for me: 1-5 times per 10 days, depending on other things, such as work stress, etc. I think these questions are deeper and less simple than people realize, at least for me. The things that cause the stress that stop me from having sex, say, every day, are also the things that bring me great joy which then leads to horniness and sex and romance. In short, I don’t compartmentalize well, and I’m definitely someone who has to feel happy and good to be aroused … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadFair enough, but then a lot of this depends on how onerous/costly one finds the “increased standards, harder competition, etc.” If one was not bothered by that, insofar as the costs are mental and emotional, then there is no reason not to prefer a smarter/educated woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI think one that doesn’t get enough attention is inhibition. I’m pretty sure I read high inhibition and intelligence are positively related. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 09:06 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhy doesn’t it count? That’s an arbitrary rule. Outside of possible student debt, what are the costs, in your opinion? Edit: in fact, couldn’t we go further? If my partner satisfied my other social needs, I could expend less effort on maintaining my social life. With the same investment I’m getting a return on my romantic and non-romantic social life. Seems like a good deal to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadRight. Intelligence might be positively correlated with a lot of “negative” traits | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMaybe. There does seem to be an emphasis on deference here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 07:56 PM |
| 0 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNo disagreement with your last sentence. I guess what I’m saying is when confronted with the question, I would think people would engage their more logical desires as well, not just their instinctive ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI think they data on matching agrees with your first paragraph, but I would have to double check. I think it’s true across other dimensions, besides intelligence and education as well. People generally match similar people. That’s why this sub seems to be an outlier in that regard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 07:50 PM |
| 0 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhat do they want? Because this seems to come up a lot here: If men just want sex they should get prostitutes Reply: no I want the affection/validation/etc So given point 2, I don’t think my comment is unreasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 07:48 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMy friend set the house on fire because she never removed lint from the dryer catch | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhich is equally surprising | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 07:10 PM |
| 5 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAmazing to me how many men here claim intelligence/education is not important to them. Nothing wrong with that preference, just surprising | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 07:06 PM |
| 2 | How many people know guys that have women on a “rotation”?I used to. It’s not an intentional harem-building plan. You meet someone (real life or app). You hook up. You meet someone else later. You hook up. That has no bearing on the previous hook up. There’s no real mechanical difference between having a rotation and dating multiple people at once. In the latter case, you cut off the others when you find someone special. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 06:11 PM |
| 3 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?You might be right that a lot of men on here have been, for lack of a better term, stunted by their upbringing or childhood traumas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 02:56 AM |
| 2 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?I would define easy access to sex as, in decent sized city, you could go from no prospects on Monday morning to laid with no expectation of commitment by Sunday night With someone within your standards, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 02:50 AM |
| 2 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?Interesting perspective. As you can see from my other responses, I’m willing to admit I was too extreme in my characterization. However, I think your example, if we take the stories of the men at face value here, represents something they don’t have access to. Many, it seems, feel they don’t have the chance a proverbial “you” to even get to know them enough to make the Andy/Mike distinction. It never gets to that point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:11 AM |
| 2 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?Oh it’s fine. I should have been more clear | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:39 AM |
| 2 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?I’m not as combative as most posters here… I’m beginning to notice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:31 AM |
| 2 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?I was taking what I see as the perspective of many of the frustrated men here. I wasn’t taking a stand on if their desire for easier access to casual sex is sensible or not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:28 AM |
| 3 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?I agree 100%. My mistake if it sounds like I don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 12:25 AM |
| 2 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?Good point! I think a lot of people’s self-perception doesn’t meet reality, and instead of adjusting that perception, they look for external explanations | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 10:49 PM |
| 6 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAs a newish poster: the bitterness and pain some people are feeling here is truly shocking. I’m not calling anyone out. I just feel bad for a lot of you. I wish I could help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 10:42 PM |
| 1 | RP men don’t like women, they’re just attracted to themMaybe you should start embracing your bestial side too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 10:28 PM |
| 6 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?But I don’t think it’s the only thing that matters… for example, conditional on surpassing some level of attractiveness, I believe other things matter. And I don’t buy the highly structured “rating system” people have: a 8 is always gonna be more successful than a 7, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 10:17 PM |
| 17 | [Q4A]Do you believe that genuinely ugly people exist?Yes. In fact, and I don’t know what “pill” this falls under, but I think being genuinely ugly is truly what many of the men suffering in this sub have holding them back. All this jibber jabber about status/intelligence/kindness/etc is marginal at best, especially when it comes to casual sex. If you were attractive, you’d have easy-ish access to sex. If you were average-above average, you would have the rare/occasional one night stand and probably a series of relationships. I’m not trying to be m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 10:01 PM |
| 26 | The short king phenomenon, what caused it ?I’m 5’6”. I didn’t notice any difference after the phenomenon went viral. Then again, I’ve never really struggled with dating, so maybe the effect was more on the margin | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 06:52 PM |
| 6 | Every single plot for women main characters is them getting wet over a bad boy when they dont want toSurely no one on PPD would make an unfalsifiable claim and pass it off as fact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Inner confidence is quiet, so how do you convey it in social settings?There are a wide range of behaviors between being the center of the party and staring at the dance floor like a morose gargoyle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 04:58 PM |
| 40 | Men in your 30s, do you actually not want to date women in their 30s?I am attracted to women around my age. I always have been. Outside of that, I’ve had more fun with older women than younger, but that’s purely anecdotal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 01:18 AM |
| 1 | There is no easy way to get women other than going after very unattractive womenMaybe but that is swamped by other variables. For example, as someone else said, the context in which you meet someone. Unattractive woman in the bread aisle or attractive woman in the romantic cocktail bar? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 12:38 AM |
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