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In my experience, the potential consequences of a young woman's desire to never be married and never have children include but are not limited to loneliness, regret, anxiety, disappointment, anger, fear, and feelings of inadequacy, jealousy, and selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:39 PM
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I can't be chivalrous because chivalry is, as I said above, a medieval religious and social code based on Middle Age notions of piety and feudalism. Am I courteous? Yes, I try to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:32 PM
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By "believe in," do you mean do I want that for my family or do I want to impose it on others? If the former, yes; if the latter, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:27 PM
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Edited, as requested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:18 PM
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Do you believe in chivalry? Are you chivalrous? Do you think chivalry is dead? Chivalry was a medieval knightly system with religious, moral, and social codes, particularly concerning defense of the Church and adherence to feudal duties. It has no application in the 21st Century. Do you support abortion? Death penalty? Drug legalization? I support arguments against the government's intrusion in the private life of its citizens, whether that be abortion or drug use. Regarding criminal punishment,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:06 PM
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No, I'm not Asian nor single. I'm saying, if one is Asian and from Man Jose, could there be worse odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 01:38 PM
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Asian from Man Jose--could there be worse odds?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 03:06 AM
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Unfortunately, Arthur, /u/SirNemesis is correct. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, a supermajority of women did not work in the 1950s. The one-income family was very much the majority of America in the 1950s. See also.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 11:47 PM
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For example, a concept trp likes is the constant threat of walking away if they feel they aren't getting everything they want at a moment's notice Good comment. This approach may work with short-term relationships, but long-term relationships and marriages take work, sacrifice, and communication. If you left every time the going gets tough, you'd never be able to get past the first few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 11:10 PM
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And what exactly is the ideal male role model to you? The ideal role model to you may sound like an obsolete traditionalist to someone else. This whole "ideal role model" concept is pretty much relative. "Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one." -- Marcus Aurelius A role model is a person who balances not creating another in their own image and giving them the opportunity to create themselves. You greatly misunderstand what mentors are, what traditional masculinity is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 10:47 PM
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Father-like figure, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 10:07 PM
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I should have been more precise: male role models with the ability to mentor in that particular child's/adolescent's life. Thanks for the catch, SW.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 10:02 PM
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TRP has not invented the wheel--that is correct. Most of the core knowledge from RP comes from concepts such as traditional masculinity and rational egoism--it's simply that those concepts are now largely untaught because of the dearth of male role models.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 09:42 PM
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Good, rational comment, Sepean. TRP is a toolbox; use the tools to execute your goals, whether that be a stable, nuclear family or perennial plate spinning.
/r/askTRP16/03/16 03:35 PM
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I mean like poopypill said I love this! It's so endearing and cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:08 AM
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Nooooo! I got NACALTed! I agree with you by the way. He is an Alpha douchebag, which is why I answered the narrow question presented by OP as I did. If, of course, OP asked if he was a "good man," we could have a more lively discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 01:18 AM
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Lol! I didn't see that. Wife divorced him. Bad family relations. Treats people around him poorly. Fairly consistent characteristics of most celebrities. I guess certain people value their helicopters, villas, awards, and knighthood more than family cohesion. Oh well. But back on topic to the OP, the OP asked a narrow question, not whether he was happy or had a good life according to us spectators.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 01:04 AM
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Oh come on, Nechama, have some fun. :) Shelley pumped and dumped him. She had lots of fun. I'm sure they both did! Woo 1950s CC!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 12:45 AM
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Ew, just a nominee. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 12:26 AM
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Of course I trust Academy-Award-winning Shelly Winters' evaluation of Sir Connery.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 12:20 AM
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So what do you think? Is he right about female attraction? Academy Award/Golden Globe winner, keen golfer, and owner of a chateau golf resort in the south of France and a villa in Greece, Sir (he was knighted by the queen) Sean Connery, who ladies have called "one of the tallest and most charming and masculine Scotsmen," "Sexiest Man Alive," and the "Sexiest Man of the Century", might know a thing or two about female attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 11:34 PM
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Instead, women just drown their kids and kill their husbands with poison and then surround their corpses with rose petals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 07:14 PM
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Fascinating survey. Thanks for putting it together. Police show bias against men in domestic violence cases Most everyone agreed with this except 100% Blue which was almost evenly split between agree and disagree. Rape accusations should be handled by police and not universities... Most agreed except 100% Blue which was again split. There was some disagreement in Blueish Purple as well. Another survey once again confirming the idealistic, left-wing prevalence among 100% Blue Pillers. I'm glad "m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 03:45 PM
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If you're looking for camaraderie, a team-based intramural sport like soccer, flag football, ultimate frisbee, or water polo would be great choices. All of them lend themselves to making friends rather quickly, are prevalent on college campuses, and lead to hanging out outside of the intramural.
/r/askTRP14/03/16 04:34 AM
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Your view cannot be changed because your initial premise is flawed with improper causation. Both premises are facts, not the cause or effect of one another. In other words, both statements--men age more gracefully and positive age assortative mating--are independently true. The concepts are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 01:01 AM
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Girls saying they were "open to dating short guys", yet they're boyfriends or guys they danced with at parties were tall. An in-person survey shows the savagery: To see if the women would go for short guys who were successful, ABCNEWS’ Lynn Sherr created extraordinary résumés for the shorter men. She told the women that the shorter men included a doctor, a best-selling author, a champion skier, a venture capitalist who’d made millions by the age of 25. Nothing worked. The women always chose the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 06:43 PM
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I would say the entrepreneurial sphere is most men This is the point I was trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 06:00 PM
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This is an insightful comment. I personally think that TRP should have a next step, time to recognize the good women after you are done training The reason this "next step" is not well articulated on TRP is because of a fundamental, inextricable issue. TRP concerns an individual man's relative self evaluation: he is able to readily see the differences in his life following taking the pill. On the other hand, determining whether a woman is "good" or not requires first that one has experienced a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 05:58 PM
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She cared about surviving day to day without being broken down by an abusive shithole who pretended to be true blue. Fascinating. The a priori application of very specific feelings where none were provided. Another example of the rigid division between the Blue and Red pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:53 PM
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Always attractive; never not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:36 PM
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she should have the right to do it without having to be bashed for doing it There's that word again. The progressive, idealist's overuse of this term is, ironically, one of the key factors in the detroritation of actual rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 04:34 PM
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I know this issue is a corollary to your question presented, but are you aware that significant research indicates that individuals that can recall their dreams after waking are due to them having difficulty falling asleep and staying restfully asleep throughout the night? This, as you may know, can lead to other issues like lack of focus, inability to feel rejuvenated, and lack of responsiveness. I would suggest that you try to focus on getting a better night's rest by, among other things, prep…
/r/askTRP12/03/16 07:26 PM
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I was very emotional writing this post (as I make note of that at the bottom) so that could be it. This is a possibility. Let's key in on the most important phrase in your comment: I'm simply very stubborn and have difficulty doing things I don't want to or put my mind into You say you have difficulty focusing on things you don't want. Below, you say you want to be a doctor. Yet, you are failing courses directly attributable to your success in achieving that goal. Accordingly, there is a massive…
/r/askTRP12/03/16 06:42 PM
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Will do, brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 06:37 PM
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and we may will never be there. The tyranny-liberty cycle is nearing the time when it restarts, like always. Our time in this entitled progressive environment is limited, as will be our time when it shifts. The pendulum is always swinging.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 06:27 PM
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I have found that the people that stay here are generally reasonable. On both sides, the extremists typically flame out once they realize their adolescent "gotchas" don't work in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 06:03 PM
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Frankly, I'm stunned. You believe the millennial generation, a generation characterized by anxiety, excess introversion resulting in obsessive porn use and video game playing, and social entitlement had not enough time alone? The millennial generation has the above mentality specifically because they are one of the most socially maladjusted groups of people ever to walk this planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 05:48 PM
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I couldn't disagree more. As /u/alreadyredschool intelligently identified, the play deficit in our schools is one of the key reasons why our children are socially unadjusted. We need to be more cognizant of the mental, physical, and emotional deterioration caused by children that are either not properly socialized or not sufficiently socialized.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 05:32 PM
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Team sports - I know a bunch if athletes, everyone who does team sports is a great human being, the individual sport people are assshoes. That's why a combination of both is important. For example, swimming/golf are individual sports that teach mental toughness, patience, and discipline. Team sports, like football, teach camaraderie, unit dynamics, and social adjustment. Uhhh the play deficit Absolutely spot on. I've talked about this before, and I throughly believe that instead of locking your …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 05:26 PM
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For example right now I closed my essay and I'm sitting in my chair drinking coffee. Only on my phone waiting for you to respond so I'm refreshing this page every few minutes. I'm not a psychologist/medical doctor, but this description struck me as hyper-anxious behavior. Additionally, when I read your post, I felt completely overwhelmed by the disorganized and frenzied writing style. Have you ever considered that you may have diagnosable anxiety? Your descriptions of being unable to stay on tas…
/r/askTRP12/03/16 03:29 PM
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Two questions to explore your subconscious: 1) do you typically recall your dreams once awake; and 2) do you have trouble falling and/or staying asleep?
/r/askTRP12/03/16 03:23 PM
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That should start and finish with 1) Be physically fit 2) Be financially stable 3) Don't be desperate The fixation, on both TRP and this post, on being physically fit (indeed, identifying it as #1) is, ironically, one of the very reasons men continue to not be raised properly. The single most important skill a boy can learn from his parents is proper social adjustment, which comes from playing a combination of team and individual sports, interacting with young girls and boys, developing friendsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 02:37 PM
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I would contend that both are attractive and are not mutually exclusive. Thus, high physical risk, high pay trade occupations or investment risk in education for a high paying executive type position. It is correct that women typically choose lower paying, high security jobs, which is why they're often overrepresented in administrative, education, healthcare, or governmental positions, all of which often offer generous benefits packages and stable employment. By contrast, men overwhelmingly oper…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 12:58 AM
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This one is difficult for me as I just got burned by 2 people I considered my best friends. My only friends. I shared malt everything about my life and they used it to manipulate me. The saddest thing about betrayal is that it never comes from your enemies. I'm sorry about your situation, but now it's time to move forward. Do you think it's possible to be friendly have good social skills and still not have any friends? Hell I don't even know what a normal friendship/relationship is. Rarely, if a…
/r/askTRP12/03/16 12:29 AM
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Instead of replying with the rote answers (lift, game, frame, etc.) typical of questions like yours, I'll instead suggest, if you have not already begun doing so, investing your time in building friendships and a network of contacts upon which you can rely.
/r/askTRP11/03/16 08:37 PM
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I never said women see men in "blue collar" occupations as unattractive. You misunderstand my point. My point is that men working in fields typically deemed as "men's work," whether blue or white collar, are seen as more attractive than men working in "women's work." In other words, the color of the collar is irrelevant; instead, society's perception of a particular occupation is relevant. To set aside all doubt, men working in "blue collar" trades certainly are attractive to women (see all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 08:07 PM
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we participated in one of those personality tests What was your result? is there anyway to find more friends like the one I've made this semester You find friends by becoming active in something, anything. What do you like to do? What are your hobbies? Are you a part of any clubs, social organizations, charities, sports teams, or study groups? If not, you may want to ponder why not.
/r/askTRP11/03/16 07:24 PM
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Graduate-level education is not supposed to be for everyone. Yet, society bowed to the complaints of the gibme-entitlement of the millennial generation and now we have more "professional" schools and more useless degrees than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 07:10 PM
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Then what are men who can both read and write?! The horror!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 07:08 PM
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Is it possible to remove the stigma of "women's work" in an income sector where status and wealth are kind of non existent? It is, yes. Tell women to start selecting for men in historically "women's work" fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 05:08 PM
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Until you can "fix" centuries of biological programming related to occupational choice, because women still chase men in certain fields, men will still seek out education and opportunities to enter those fields. Case in point, male paralegals at my old firm were basically invisible (the female ones were all hot, though, and well liked). But the trial partners? It didn't matter how old, ugly, or fat; fresh, new women threw themselves at the men who's names ended with Esq.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 02:51 PM
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This is consistent with my experience. A large majority of the top SMV guys in my fraternity and at my old firm, while engaging in some STRs ended up, in the first case, lavaliering a girl junior or senior year (they're still married) or, in the second case, marrying younger female associates that were also of high SMV. Assortative mating is consistent with my experience, particularly at high SMV levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 02:57 PM
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The proper way to apply a heuristic or any generalization technique (law enforcement does this) is to be aware of the generalization and then identify the individual's unique characteristics that either confirm or deny the generalization. If the unique characteristics generally confirm the generalization, then it is more likely than not that the whole generalization applies. People take heuristics here too seriously and apply them absolutely, which is the cause of much angst.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 02:57 AM
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Shitty people come in all forms. Yep. That's why humans have developed heuristics, profiling, and risk management to identify the people who are most likely to be shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 02:24 AM
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Cxj, last night, over a bed of roses, I made love to my sweetie, my honey cakes, my boo bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 02:02 AM
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You'll have to excuse me if I find this strange advice to be coming from a red piller. NARPRALT, right? Things will never be the same for me...it's how I feel and not something I can just change because it's unhealthy or inconvenient. I understand this how you feel. I am simply explaining to you what will likely happen as a result of your feelings. I don't want to be histrionic about it, but you can't understand what it means to me that he would read red pill stuff and think "yeah...that's total…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 01:19 AM
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Alpha LLC is a limited liability company, offering Mr. Alpha protection against personal liability, while Beta Industries appears to be either a sole proprietorship or a general partnership, in which Mr. Beta may be subject to personal liability. Smart guy, Mr. Alpha, smart guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 12:14 AM
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I can't make the leap from saying men-like things, such as "she's a slut," "I pounded/slayed/slammed her," etc. to conscious feelings concerning such statements. There's going to be speculative comments made here that men speak this way because of evo psych or the patriarchy or any number of meritless theories. In the end, I can't even tell you why I say those things. Men speak like men. Talis qualis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:55 PM
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Essentially, your question is why do men speak like men, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:39 PM
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It get what you are saying, and you sound like a reasonable man. Thanks, Vampire. Thing is...I don't want this man you describe. One created when parents "nourish their sons with the pill slowly and carefully." You can't have that man in your husband, even if you wanted it. I was simply describing two types of men and how they were raised. Your husband is not that man because he was not raised that way. I don't accept RP as "reality." I don't want or need a "leader." Then there are only two opti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 06:00 PM
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His dad older brother are both macho brutes and he was a nerd, basically. They pushed him around. It is unfortunate that his father, who is supposed to be his guide, mentor, and model, "pushed him around." Nope. Acta non verba, right? Never explain yourself to a woman. This Latin phrase has been morphed beyond recognition. It simply means "action, not words"--i.e. stop saying you're going to be better; be better. Those that read it to mean that they should stop communicating with their spouse un…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 05:36 PM
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Absolutely they would. Thanks for the comment, Smurf.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 04:42 PM
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Fascinating. I know not a single father that's opposed to taking care of/raising his own biological children. In fact, one of the top discussions on here is about men having their children, who they want to care for, taken from them. Are you sure you aren't talking to people who have never had kids before? Edit: see /u/PemBayliss's response to see what I mean regarding men taking full custody without a second thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 04:30 PM
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You're telling me I get to keep my biological children, I get paid to do so, and, as an added bonus, she doesn't get any custody? What self-interested narcissist wouldn't take that deal? Must be why so many women jump at the chance, right? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 04:27 PM
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It's probably a bad idea to assist. It is far better to retreat to a safe location and call the police. This is precisely why the law provides for a no duty to rescue rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 04:07 PM
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Thank our level-headed legislatures and reasonable jurists for limiting the vague panoply of "unwanted sexual touching" to only the crime of "sexual assault," which has specific criminal elements.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 04:01 PM
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if it DOES rise to the level of criminal assault and women en masse refuse to either PROTECT themselves or even go to the POLICE who are paid to protect them, then i reiterate the RP theory that women are just big children who lack agency and the ability to take care of themselves and their emancipation was a giant mistake This is the correct formulation of one of the ultimate questions on PPD that not a single non-RPer has answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 03:58 PM
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In addition, if Messi had reversed poses, not that they are that much different, then the reaction of the women would still be the same, rest assured. You mean same clothes, same look, but reverse the body language shown and the props used (microphone)? I am unconvinced, as you appear to take for granted, that the women's reactions would stay the same. I would be interested in seeing what result, if any, such a change in body language would have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 03:54 PM
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I'm sorry about your situation, Vampire. I think it was more about his changing politics and feelings of not being "masculine" enough. He's not the man I married. What caused him to feel not masculine enough? Was it something he saw or heard or was told by friends, colleagues, family? What do you think caused him to change his views so suddenly? Was he unhappy? And I never really got an answer as to why...just that he was "becoming a better man." So he never explained why he wanted to "become a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 03:52 PM
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The photos are not similar at all. I'm surprised wub even contended that the photos are "extremely close together." When I saw the "before/after" transformation, I, too, was shocked. The "after" photo has starkly different body language than the first photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 03:25 PM
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Unwanted sexual attention can include staring You got stared at didn't you, Atlas? The horror! We should do something about all the staring men!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 02:52 PM
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Currently married to a man who has recently morphed from an awesome man into a MeRP. I'm genuinely curious, what caused him to seek out MRP and change from being "an awesome man." What were you conversations like when you noticed the change? Did you both communicate what may have caused this change? What did he say? Thanks, Vampire.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 05:57 AM
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I'm well aware of community and third party care throughout history. That point is irrelevant. I'll emphasize the key term that is unique to our time since it appears lost on you: current dual-income/baby drop regime
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 02:36 AM
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Yes. Are you aware the current dual-income/baby drop off regime has existed for an even smaller amount of time?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 12:20 AM
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Ah daycare, one of the many benefits of our transition from the one-income nuclear family to the dual-gender service economy that is the face of modern slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 09:34 PM
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I wasn't really alleging that there is a rape culture, I know you weren't. I was simply stating my opinion that there is none. but I've heard a lot of discussion about the idea, so my question was more along the lines of "if there is a rape culture, would it be reduced if we took a harsher view on it?" We can't take a "harsher view" on it because the criminal law already takes an extremely harsh view on it. Our society operates under the Western idea of the rule of law, which has prescribed rule…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 08:23 PM
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Would rape culture be reduced if society took a harsher position on rape? What if we had rougher prisons and more frequent use of the death penalty? First, there is no rape culture. Second, society takes an extremely harsh position on rape, which is an apex felony and subject to lengthy sentences of imprisonment. Third, regarding capital punishment, Western legal principles, based on the idea of retribution, sanction capital punishment only in instances of intentional homicide, often with aggrav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 07:07 PM
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This is the correct distinction, with the former often referred to as public interest (legislatures pass laws to address matters of public interest and concern). You make baby, you pay for baby. Succinct and an accurate statement of our society's view of the consequences of unprotected sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 02:36 PM
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He'll get laid for it. Judging by his wedding ring, we can confidently conclude that his wife did so later that night after witnessing his feat.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/16 02:16 PM
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Vir - gin (Noun): a person who has not had sexual intercourse. You, sir, need to stop speaking facts. This is PPD after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 10:41 PM
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Nah, she wouldn't have gotten 20. That poor innocent woman is clearly an angel, the bf was probably raping her while the baby drowned! Lol! But, in all seriousness, if she didn't plead first to child neglect, she may have had to plea to aggravated manslaughter (what the man pled to) (with a special enhancement for the victim being under 18), which pursuant to Florida law (Fl. Stat. 782.07(3)), is a first degree felony (yikes!), punishable by "a term of imprisonment not exceeding 30 years."
/r/TheRedPill07/03/16 09:39 PM
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Atlas is right, Pem. virgins give BJs because MEN DONT STAY WITH WOMEN WHO DONT MAKE THEM CUM for more than a date or two. Can confirm from personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 09:13 PM
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Other than "Avoid the unlucky and unhappy like the plague." I would add the unhealthy--particularly mentally unhealthy--as well. Unfortunately, a number of people, particularly men, are mentally ill. In my personal experience (as a legal advocate), however, stay away; such people, whether they intend to or not, can remove all of the happiness from your life.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/16 08:26 PM
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Yes, obviously if you're a career criminal, don't defect. My statement concerns individuals with limited or no criminal history that are typically not subject to the consequences of the criminal world's "snitches get stitches" slogan.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/16 08:10 PM
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Where is your flair by the way, Pem?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 07:55 PM
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Mens rea is satisfied by irresistible impulses. But the law, in its infinite wisdom, recognizes the culpability differences between irresistable impulses (coming home and killing your wife and her suitor when in a fit of rage) and planned acts (poisoning, mayhem, torture) by creating special deviations for such circumstances (see, e.g., imperfect self defense doctrine; elements and sentencing guidelines of manslaughter vs. murder).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 07:42 PM
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In a law terms, I guess you would say someone is pleading innocent, while in your case someone is pleading guilty, and explaining that their actions were not only uncharacteristic, but also uncontrollable when in the moment (see "I don't know why I did this")but acknowledge that guilt is not representative of who they are. Our statements are actually much closer to being one and the same than you realize. The nuance is critical. Essentially, the difference is only that one accepts the conduct is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 07:36 PM
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Humans are imperfect, and for that reason, make imperfect decisions sometimes based on basal instincts. I have personally experienced criminal cases where an individual--an otherwise shining beacon of the community--makes a poor decision that leads to criminal prosecution. When I have spoken with them during proffer sessions, they often recount the experience as surreal or say, "I don't know why I did this." Do I think such conduct is reasonable, as the law defines it, as objectively prudent? No…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 07:21 PM
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The reason you long for this type of romance is due to what /u/Archwinger terms "synergy" here: When a man and a woman join together to face the world, they have the potential to be so much more than the sum of their strengths. I challenge you to recognize that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. No, you are not going to live the life of your video game heroes, but, at the same time, that doesn't mean you cannot live a life of synergy.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/16 04:11 PM
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I was nonconsensually given a blowjob by a drunk same gender hooker who claimed to love me. He then fingered my butt. This obviously requires you to recount the full story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 03:51 PM
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In a real prisoner's dilemma, you always defect. Defecting first saved her 15 years of her life.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/16 06:46 AM
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TRP operates within an amoral regime for two reasons: 1) it is descriptive (as it is), rather than prescriptive (as it should or ought to be); and 2) it limits the devolution of discussion when two competing moralities attempt to prescribe rather than describe human behavior. This does not mean, as you note, that all TRPers follow the same moral regime.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 12:30 AM
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What are people even supposed to debate here? This is my question as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 06:59 PM
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Pando, do you have any discussion questions to help further the conversation along? (This is Purple Pill Debate, after all). Otherwise, this is just an exemplar of shitty people being shitty, of which we are all aware. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 06:51 PM
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They can't spend what you don't let them spend. This simple fact appears lost on most of the commenters here; almost as if they don't have agency.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/16 05:40 PM
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Hahaha! That was a funny comic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 07:16 PM
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Luckily, in reality, the latter situation does not happen often because prosecutors have better things to do then criminalize two kids having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 07:14 PM
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the ages of 14 - 18, however, sexual activity will not be considered statutory rape as long as the partner is within two or three years in age. Just to be clear, the vast majority of Romeo and Juliet laws limit, but do not eliminate criminal liability. For example, under California's Romeo and Juliet law, a defendant is subject to misdemeanor penalties (and if a minor as well, only juvenile penalties), which substantially lessens the effects of the crime, but does not eliminate it. See Cal. Pena…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 06:59 PM
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The same as usual: Ignore it and do their own thing. /thread Do whatever you want in this life. Accept the consequences and reap the benefits of your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 07:57 PM
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Why is it so offensive to many redpills/feminists/everyone? The true answer (that we are all self interested and want to control others) is often too much for most people to accept. Do what you want in this world. Accept the consequences and reap the benefits of your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 05:44 PM
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What REALLY matters is what's in your HEART. Thanks for the laugh, Pem. Hahaha!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 05:30 PM
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Sounds pretty simple to me. If you (sex irrelevant) want to be a "head of household," type, find someone who wants a "head of household" type partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 05:26 PM
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Just don't hurt Mr. Cornelius!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:35 PM
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Social connections are everything Understanding (and working towards these) four words is worth more than most of the advice on and off TRP. For example, I could tell you stories of men who, as lawyers, followed the common advice of "work hard and you'll be fine." They never made partner and were pushed out after slaving away for years. These men felt betrayed by not only the firm, but by society. To make partner, you didn't have to be the best lawyer; you had to be the best networker. A lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:26 PM
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Be interesting; don't be uninteresting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 12:37 AM
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Civil juries should follow the instructions of the law given to them, including the instruction regarding the burden of proof. From the model jury instructions of the Ninth Circuit: It is your duty to find the facts from all the evidence in the case. To those facts you will apply the law as I give it to you. You must follow the law as I give it to you whether you agree with it or not. And you must not be influenced by any personal likes or dislikes, opinions, prejudices, or sympathy. That means …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:19 PM
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When I said that, I wasn't restricting my statements to just SAHM shaming. I am a libertarian: do what you want; suffer the consequences and reap the rewards of your choices. I couldn't care less what choices you make, just accept the results that arise therefrom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 12:26 AM
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Yep. That's the right answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 07:30 PM
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Would you rather her have a GF or a BF in HS? I always find that religious men have a hard time answering. Really? I'm surprised. The answer seems obvious to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 07:15 PM
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So you have no idea what choices make RPers view single moms as human scum? I'm just speculating but I would posit all of the following regarding the observed lambasting: bad experiences with single mothers, inability to bond/experience traditional relationship trajectory, fear of being a cuckold, single mothers have a higher chance of being poor, food insecure, and commonly have mental disorders, consequently making them unattractive LTR candidates, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 06:12 PM
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Fact: height and facial symmetry matter. Fact: height and facial symmetry, like race, are immutable traits. Accordingly, concerning yourself with them is futile. Be aware of the facts, but concern yourself with traits you can change.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 05:55 PM
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Your discussion with those below shows me that men here really have never participated in high-impact competitive sports. Reading these comments is fascinating to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:37 PM
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affirmative laws Please reread this part of the above-quoted phrase carefully. I have italicized the key term.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:01 PM
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There appears to be some miscommunication here, so let's start over. Maybe I've not been asking clearly...what exactly are these choices, and what is so bad about them that choosing them makes these women human scum in RPers' eyes? I don't know. I am not one of the RPers who believes single mothers are human scum because I don't need to get worked up over other issues in the analysis: I simply don't want to raise children that aren't mine. Accordingly: only want to raise my own children" making …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 02:59 PM
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Then what's all this blather about women being jerks by only "marrying up"? Who said this? I sure didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 02:52 PM
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Such statements regarding single mothers may stem from the notion that single mothers do in fact make poor choices. Maybe the statements are based on anecdotal evidence the maker has regarding single mothers. Maybe he was harmed in some what by them. Ultimately, such points are moot. There's no reason to press the analysis further than "I only want to raise my own children." Such a statement is a definitive, defensible boundary that doesn't result in reliance on hyperbole or anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 05:57 AM
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Dare i say it, but such is the mindset of someone who hasn't experienced true love... Or love at all.. Then my story would probably catch you by surprise. I gather it is more a compulsion rather than a choice. Just because you look at it from a cold logical view doesnt mean those who love such partners do. You'll find as you experience life that people will have different opinions than you. And I'm here to tell you that's okay. Maybe, if you take the time to understand their perspective, you'll …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 05:50 AM
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I was answering the question presented: "why lambast (read: criticize) single moms."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 01:31 AM
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Excellent! Look at that! Blooper and Trper working side by side. Let's see what else we can agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 12:02 AM
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Okay. But let's agree here on something. According to the data, men are the sex that generally marry down (lawyer/teacher; doctor/secretary) and women generally marry up/stay within their class. You would agree, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:58 PM
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Judge a man by his questions rather than by his answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:50 PM
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I would prefer if everyone just did what they thought was best and both suffer the consequences and reap the rewards of their choices. Choose to be a SAHM or work; I couldn't care either way. Just lose the moral superiority narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:48 PM
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Forced? Women were forced, as in compulsorily, to become SAHMs? I would like to see the evidence for this extraordinary claim. for example being allowed to fire a woman for getting married or having a child. Just to be clear, I am unaware of any affirmative laws permitting employers to fire women for having a child or being married. The standard in America is "at will" employment, which is based on the pre-progressive era notion of freedom to contract--the doctrine on which Western civilization …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:44 PM
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They're not marrying Pizza Hut cashiers. Did I say this? Come on now, that's just disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 11:38 PM
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but data suggests that people stay mostly within their social class. The data says exactly the opposite for men (as expected) (see quote from linked census analysis above): High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals, while middle- and lower-tier women often marry up. In other words, female CEOs tend to marry other CEOs; male CEOs are OK marrying their secretaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:51 PM
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both spouses need to work The result of NAFTA and the progressive push for mass female urban employment to replace the "oppressive" status of SAHM. I can't keep a straight face saying it. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:45 PM
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You're correct according to recent census analysis. Most males in powerful UMC or UC white collar professional positions (doctors, physicians, lawyers, judges) married significantly below their occupational class, with the top matches being female elementary school teachers, nurses, secretaries and administrative assistants, and dancers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:35 PM
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Cuittler, did you mean to reply to me? See my response to Cookie above. I do not believe single moms are human scum.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 09:13 PM
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You do identify with an ideology that facilitates that mindset though. We will have to agree to disagree here because our first premises (I don't believe TRP is an ideology; RP might be, but TRP isn't) are irreconcilable. I would be pretty worried by something like that in a community I was a part of. It doesn't worry me that men on TRP say crass or politically incorrect things. Many of them are frustrated or angry at the present circumstances in modern society and lack the capacity, due to thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:32 PM
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I can't tell because of the lack of nonverbal cues, but are you suggesting I believe single men or women are human scum? If so, I do not so believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:09 PM
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Look! A sensitive guy! What an animal lover!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 03:49 PM
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There are comments here addressing a range of complex issues like single mothers make poor choices and men should be made aware of single mothers' suspect motivations. For me, it's much simpler. I just wouldn't want to raise a child that's not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 03:34 PM
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/u/Nechama is probably referring to the standard FBI statistics that universally show a decrease in crime over the last 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 03:25 PM
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BenGunn, I'm sad. This isn't your schtick. You are supposed to be talking about 10/10 smoking hot models and why no one will ever get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 03:08 PM
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That being said, lobby groups were very successful is the US, you only need to look at the current issues within the university/college environment, and the government direction driving those decisions. Let's be incredibly clear here. These university disciplinary changes have not, in any way, changed the criminal justice system here in the United States. As for Canada, I think your question is apt. If a single suggestion by these SJW stakeholders sticks and becomes law, then the deconstruction …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 03:04 PM
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I'm emotionally invested because their poison did a number on me Could you share your story or a link to your story, if you shared before?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 02:58 PM
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If Canada's criminal justice system is amended to include a single suggestion from one of these "lobbyists," then Canada will have effectively eliminated millennia of criminal jurisprudence and individual rights. I hope Canada's legal community swiftly denounces these imbeciles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 02:44 PM
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"Maybe the defendant should not be allowed to opt out of testifying. If the complainants have to suffer through cross-examination, surely the defendant shouldn't get to bypass that." "Having been on a jury and witnessing its weaknesses, I can safely say that no jury should be used in such trials. I believe these cases need to be heard by a tribunal consisting of judges and subject-matter legal experts." Hahahahaha! My fucking sides. Please, for the love of Antonin Scalia, people that don't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 02:23 PM
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Aw man, EV, I thought the links were going to be in the body of your post. This is going to require some searching. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 11:05 PM
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In the second you'll see my arguments on the 'anger phase' (which according to EC's, is necessary to be being RP). I guess I can't be an EC or RP anymore because I never went through the anger phase. I'm curious, can you link to where this was articulated?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 10:58 PM
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SerNemesis++
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 07:49 PM
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It's pretty easy to identify the sad saps out to get laid and for all parties to avoid them. I'm agreeing with Dstoo again, nooooo! But seriously, when I go out to bars, clubs, or am on vacation, everyone knows those guys who stand around the dance floor glaring longingly at the woman you're dancing with. It's, as women say, "creepy" and it's obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 06:05 PM
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I could care less if it's repulsive to RP men as long as it gets me what I want and what is fair to me QW, what does this mean? What is "it"? What is supposedly repulsive to RP men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 05:51 PM
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This is on point, Villaintine. The only thing that makes life unfair is the delusion that it should be fair. One of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite movies: "Hold it! Hold it! Grand-pa, you read that wrong. She doesn't marry Humperdinck. She marries Westley. I'm just sure of it. After all he did for her, if she didn't marry him, it wouldn't be fair." "Well who says life is fair? Where is that written? Life isn't always fair."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:05 PM
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Okay, I'll redefine that - in my age group and in my circles, it's normal. Thank you for clarifying your statement is so narrowly construed as to be now inapplicable outside your limited friend group experience. Swarming to the defence of another one of your cult - sorry, but it's you that has lost any credibility. I couldn't care less that /u/Exit_Sandman is flaired red. I evaluate arguments on their merits. You made a careless, inarticulate, and meritless statement and you got called on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 09:51 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: I've actually worked with victims of violence and victims of labor and sex trafficking. Such victims have never gone to the media to seek revenge against the perpetrators. Such victims have never sought to garner public sympathy or inflame the passions of the public to join their political cause. What real victims actually do, instead, is cry, plead, and beg for shelter, for help, and for comfort. Those that parade their sexual abuse tales on the media …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 06:02 PM
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The first three are "dad bod." Lol at Don Draper being "dad bod." The man is 45 years old and looks great.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 05:51 PM
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Here or here you go, Pem. Swimming and water polo, respectively--chick crack.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 05:32 PM
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/u/Exit_Sandman: "good guy" (handsome, fit, attentive, intelligent, has a good job, confident, great at sex, socializing and with kids, treats her like the best thing since sliced bread and turns into chocolate after sex) You: That guy you described is just pretty normal. Definition of "normal": conforming to a standard; usual, or typical. If you had any credibility before, it's gone now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 03:59 PM
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Until "God" or some absolute standard comes around, the closest we have to an objective scale is the Fiat-Drok scale. There is no better objective scale than the Fiat-Drok.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 12:56 AM
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I appreciate your post and the thought you put into it, but A&A is not sarcasm. "Sarcasm," like "rape" and "stoicism", is a term that is consistently misunderstood. Sarcasm is ridicule, mockery, and derision. It's Greek root "sark," means "flesh." Sarcasm is biting and divisive. "Yeah we actually better hurry. My 3 o'clock girl is going to be early, and I had to switch the 5 o'clock and 7 o'clock around." This is not sarcasm. This is teasing, bantering, or playfulness. It elicits a smile or a ri…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/16 01:55 AM
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TRP, in a coincidental way, operates very much like legal analysis. There is an issue, a rule, an application, and a conclusion. Issue: Can I post moralizing content? Rule: No Moralizing. Nothing in TRP prohibits you from having and following a code of ethics. You're welcome to discuss why certain morals or values might exist, or their benefit in the context of strategy, however arguments that stem from morality (i.e. this is evil, therefore) are strictly prohibited. Application: all i said was …
/r/TheRedPill25/02/16 01:32 AM
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We shouldn't abuse our power by sleeping with everyone we can, such as married women and women in LTR's. The "should" will get you in trouble here. Rule Zero and recent Mod pronouncements have further reiterated that "should"-like moralizing does not have a place on TRP. Accordingly, even if I were to agree with you, such a discussion wouldn't have a place here.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/16 11:28 PM
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I'm aware. I was just hoping to lend an olive branch of reasonableness on the subject. Apparently, it didn't work. That's PPD for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 03:58 AM
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Putting aside the other telling strawmen, this one is particularly egregious: Looksmaxingcoping = Similar to liftcoping. Unless you're overweight or deformed there's little you can do to alter your appearance beyond like maybe .5/10. This is an indefensible position. Both BP and RP readily agree that, with work, an individual can significantly raise his or her attractiveness by, among other things, developing a new hair or clothing style, taking better care of their skin and health, and investin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 03:48 AM
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Probably not; that term is used quite often on TRP. Usually, if I am discussing this concept with people in the real world, I can say a common euphemism like, "Men age like wine, women age like milk," and most people will just nod along. It's fairly uncontroversial. I think it only rustles jimmies here because the term itself is inflammatory and suggests an impassable bulwark.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 07:22 PM
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Because everyone has accepted that the Wall is just an inflammatory substitute for a phenomenon that is common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 07:15 PM
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If you identify as Red Pill, how do you see it? Based on the men I've mentored here, I would say it's higher than your guess, but lower than the average. I would speculate 25-30% Did you pop your cherry much earlier? 16
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 04:09 PM
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Good point, Cis. I should report more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 05:59 PM
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I completely agree. This is exactly why when I see it on the main page, I immediately disregard it as "beyond retarded".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 02:09 AM
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Among other things: extremist racial and political positions, misinterpretations of the gravity and effect of the criminal and civil law, absolutistism, and impermissible application of Red Pill thought to non-Anglo/Western civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 09:48 PM
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I came to PPD as a moderate RPer, and since then my experience with Bluepillers has 1) reinforced my moderate RP positions, while 2) at the same identified for me the more radical components of TRP that I immediately disregard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:56 PM
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This is the only answer in this entire thread that actually addresses /u/KathyDurst's question without complicated moralizing or strawmanning. I hope Kathy is satisfied with this reasonable answer to her OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 07:01 PM
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Great post, Pem. I especially appreciated this: You should include here volunteer time you spend, because you should give something back to your community. Service is a great way to develop emotional stability, foster relationships with others, and build your reputation.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/16 11:36 PM
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I'm hoping to wean off here for a bit. You've said that for a while, man. Take the leap. If you want, I'll even walk you through it via PM. as it is now I feel I'm making excuses not to socialise or improve LMS. It's good you recognize this. How are things, Proto? Good, thanks for asking, Xemnas. I've been mentoring a lot of the younger guys recently. I've learned a lot from my mentorship experience. I've also learned from talking to these men how bad it really is out there. I, like a lot of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 11:26 PM
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Do you respond to every single one of these? That takes dedication, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:39 PM
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The segment at 9:50 is absolutely fascinating. She is talking about what it was like to be rejected as a man. Great find, Pem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 11:05 PM
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This is a really interesting story, Pem. I had never heard of it before. I am going to read more about it. You should write a post on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:42 PM
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"Rape" covers a multitude of experiences; it is gray and blurry and messy. Not only is her moralizing regarding "her rape" detestable, so too is her ignorance of the legal elements of rape, which are neither "gray" nor "blurry".
/r/TheRedPill12/02/16 12:27 AM
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If you want to be successful in business you're going to have to network, meet people, benefit others and be well liked and respected. Not typically traits of a dark and brooding man. This is key and should be well remembered. Despite some members' protestations otherwise, I have never experienced a dark and brooding man to be a man deserving of both of time, my respect, or my business. /u/Kez88 nails it here.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/16 10:53 PM
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A great book for more seasoned investors. I prefer to recommend the Investing Answer for novices. Much easier to understand. Also, Dan Scolin's primer The Smartest Money Book You'll Ever Read is quite good.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/16 06:12 PM
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Applying the principle of charity before I disagree with your statements above, can you clarify for me whether you believe love does not exist? Thank you in advance for your response.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/16 10:39 PM
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Sure thing, my friend. I always appreciate your insights.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/16 10:32 PM
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Hey Pem, glad to see you making a series. How would you advise yourself regarding your marriage? Would you have told yourself "Stop"? Because now, even though you went through some adversity, it sounds like you used that adversity to better yourself and your marriage. In other words, would you do it all over again?
/r/TheRedPill31/01/16 09:35 PM
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I think it is objectively an outrage. I typed in her name in Google and got a number of hits, all of which warned the public against enacting vigilante justice against the woman. Police say they are on alert after Facebook messages and tweets show the public is in fact outraged. There is even a petition of nearly 6,000 people calling for her imprisonment: This lady needs to go to prison and do time for what she has done!!! The article OP cites even says: Thousands of people on social media are o…
/r/TheRedPill31/01/16 08:54 PM
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Outrageous injustices are so outrageous because they are rare. There are currently over 2 million people incarcerated in the United States. Ten times that have felony convictions. The sheer magnitude of these numbers makes even 1,000 cases of inequal sentencing like that here paltry by comparison. However, that doesn't mean that the inequality is right; it most surely isn't. It's just a matter of fact that these type of outrageous cases are outliers, in the statistical sense. All we can do is ex…
/r/TheRedPill31/01/16 08:21 PM
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That's correct. There will be no appeal. Sentencing appeals typically take the form of reducing sentencing or modifying conditions, not increasing sentencing. Moreover, judges have near plenary authority in sentencing. This will simply stand as an outlier in the criminal justice system. Enjoy search and seizure. There is a lot of very interesting and developing law on the subject, particularly relating to automobiles and airports.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/16 08:01 PM
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Luckily, in America, convictions for certain federal and state felonies do not permit a sentence of less than imprisonment. For example, the Federal Sentencing Guidelines provide that once an individual passes a certain "offense level" imprisonment is all but mandatory.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/16 06:06 PM
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The following may be harsh, but I hope it helps you look at this issue in a different light. You are not interested in others because you are not interesting. Indeed, when describing yourself you tellingly lead with this: I have a good job, get well paid, I do workout, RP reader since almost 2 years. My life is heading good direction. From this, I gathered that you follow a monotonous routine of being well paid and going to the gym. I also gathered from your tone that, despite your attempt to de…
/r/askTRP31/01/16 04:45 PM
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When fellow TRP'ers bring up LTR my mind can't even begin to connect the dots to how that even works to their advantage. I've always found that the best way to understand something you initially don't is to ask questions. For example, as a married man with children, I have a hard time "connect[ing] the dots to how [plate spinning] works to [others'] advantage." So I ask questions and I learn how others think. This is also particularly appropriate given RPS's and Epic's recent posts on the TRP "s…
/r/TheRedPill30/01/16 03:53 PM
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Winners don't do anything better than the losers I appreciate the effort you put into this post, but this Lesson Learned contrasts sharply with my experience in both the legal and business arenas. There is no denying it: winners do in fact do things better than losers. From the minor details (better day planning and allocation of priorities) to the big picture (better networking and distinctive talent or drive), winners win because they are better. The world is a harsh place. Despite society's P…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/16 12:19 PM
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I personally chose to educate myself. If that means that people think I'm crazy I really don't give a fuck. The gravity of this issue mammoths my desire mirror the views of those who are ignorant in a petty effort to "fit it." I don't think you're crazy. I don't even think you're completely incorrect. There is clearly a disproportionate Jewish presence in the government and in high areas of private practice. However, I'm a skeptic; I simply don't see the evidence you claim exists. As I said in a…
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 11:43 PM
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I appreciate the Henry Ford quote Tits, but I don't see how it applies to the sentence of mine you quoted. Are you saying Henry Ford was a skeptic too and yet he believed in shadow Jew demigod overlords?
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 09:37 PM
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Yes. It serves a number of purposes. First, if you attribute the best possible impression of an argument to your adversary, you both: anticipate what the best possible impression of his argument is to the court, and you identify how to dismantle his best arguments. Second, while the American legal system is adversarial, ultimately all litigation has a risk ceiling. If you attribute the best impression of your adversary's arguments, you better understand his position, which assists you greatly in…
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 09:33 PM
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Arguing pedantry over reason, adopting the worst possible interpretation rather than trying to understand the argument put forward. In the law, I learned to employ what the studies of philosophy and rhetoric call the principle of charity, which requires interpreting a speaker's statements to be rational and, in the case of any argument, considering its best, strongest possible interpretation. It appears that principle was not adhered to in that post. I would encourage our members to employ this …
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 08:29 PM
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That's correct. The Model Penal Code provisions on rape were first presented to the American Law Institute in 1955 and ultimately adopted in 1962. Most of the states that adopted the MPC's rule have since enacted a spousal rape statue as well. Compare Cal. Penal Code s. 261, with Cal Penal Code s. 262.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 07:59 PM
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Yet another example of an unrestrained BPD extro woman.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 06:04 PM
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I see this as a fallout from the short attention spans that the average consumer ends up having. Very true. The lack of future time orientation is one of the greatest predictors of sloth and mediocrity in our time.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 05:44 PM
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I appreciate your point. However, I see the subtraction, rather than the addition, as more direct and easily identifiable. Other additions that are perfectly valid include the growth of hook-up culture, the proliferation of celebrity idealism, the praise for single motherhood, and the rise of multiculturalism. In other words, the subtractions are simply more identifiable than the additions.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 05:34 PM
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I think both technology and consumerism miss the mark. Instead, in its simplest form, women used to be checked through a variety of social mechanisms (such as religion and patriarchy). Women have always been hypergamous; now hypergamy is simply unrestrained.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 05:28 PM
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"New research finds that heterosexual people with pathological personalities have better success finding mates" I wonder what the research says regarding "keeping." I should do a post on this. Thanks for the comment.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 04:14 PM
2

I would be willing to bet my entire 401(k) that his ex-wife is a highly extroverted BPD woman. Young men in the military overwhelmingly marry these type of women. Truly, the difference between extroverted and introverted women is one of the most under-appreciated, unexplored, and least understood areas on TRP, despite it being so important.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/16 02:58 PM
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I really like this idea, /u/EpicLevelCheater. What an illustrative way to further the point of your post.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 07:47 PM
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I'm sorry A word of advice from years of legal argument, my friend. Never apologize for speaking your mind, especially when it may be on a contentious issue. Such a non-apology shows weakness and inauthenticity. Begin your argument directly: "I disagree with your statement above because..."
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 07:41 PM
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Do whatever the fuck you want about kids ... have em' or don't but be aware of the risk[s] and minimize [them]. As /u/EpicLevelCheater's timely post indicates, TRP is a toolbox. Use the tools as you will.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 07:13 PM
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Luckily, the Model Penal Code is not law in the United States, and, because it has faced such criticism, it has been modified, repealed, or not enacted as penal law in most of the states.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 07:02 PM
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I've always liked the buffet/salad bar analogy; very apt.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 05:57 PM
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Neoreaction, I appreciate the comment, but I think I have a fundamental difference between how I see the Blue Pill and its attendant consequences and how you and a few others here see such forces. To me, the term of art--intent--is critical. As a skeptic, I see no evidence of intent that the Blue Pill or its attendant consequences was invented or enacted by a number of disclosed or undisclosed globalist elites. What I do see is subconscious and instinctual human nature (AWALT, unrestricted hyper…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 04:05 PM
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I don't buy it. Same. The idea that the world is controlled by a small cabal of "globalist elites" who have both the intent and the capability to hide their devious plans indefinitely is an unproven conspiracy theory of the highest order. Such thinking is completely inapposite of my study and implementation of skepticism. At a minimum, ascribing evil and omnipotent intent to a few shadow individuals is just plainly indefensible.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 03:54 PM
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Apparently no one got my joke. ENTP's are called "paragraph writers," because as their archetype implies, they are often good teachers and educators. A large majority of TRP veterans are ENTPs, hence my "you'll fit in nicely here."
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 06:07 AM
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Actually I don't know any alpha 30+ who is killing that didn't came from middle (or just above middle) class. The reason it is rare is because, as you articulate, people in the upper classes are able to "just make it work": jobs appear, girlfriends appear, business opportunities appear, etc. This is in large part due to networking, as I discussed in my second Fatherly Guidance Series post, and to happiness, which I will discuss in the next post in the series. Thank you for your comment.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 01:53 AM
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Incase your wondering, I'm an ENTP. Another paragraph writer. You'll fit in nicely here.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/16 10:47 PM
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Women Everyone Do[es] Not Want Equality It is through inequality that one attains both power and wealth. No one wants equality.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/16 04:14 PM
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The only reasonable response is all the way down here. What a pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 03:01 PM
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Most of the guys that do well with attractive women life generally had a lot of favorable circumstances growing up. This is a fact of life, and it should be accepted and understood, not derided or moralized. Your post is very consistent with my experience, OP.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/16 12:30 AM
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So TRP itself isn't a sexual strategy, but it is a discussion of sexual strategy. That is correct and why I began my initial comment to you the way I did. /u/redpillschool will tell you the same, as would any other EC, Vanguard, or mod. Any girl who you've bedded using "classical" TRP sexual strategies is no longer a good girl. Classical TRP sexual strategies naturally fulfill the AWALT prophecy because they work by catering to base sex urges. It's only a girl who can resist classical TRP sexual…
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 11:05 PM
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Great draft list. Every business owner, including myself, will tell you that one of the "48 Laws" in business is understanding the importance of luck. One of my favorite quotes from a great Red Pill patriarch, one of the best athletes of all time, and entrepreneur is: "The harder I practise, the luckier I get." - Gary Player.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 10:19 PM
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The TRP sexual strategy is the least likely strategy for attracting good LTR material. This is your thesis, yet no one below really addresses it. I will. By "TRP sexual strategy," I believe you mean "spinning plates," as there is no "TRP sexual strategy." TRP happens to be a bastion of singles, but TRP, as explained by the oft-said salad bar analogy, is not a monolith. TRP and its core principles can be applied in every relationship: from ONS to marriage. What are the best ways to attract women …
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 10:00 PM
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EDIT: I should prolly include the fact that I'm not socially awkward and i have a wide range of friends and a network on my campus. By monk mode i mean that I cut off anything that isn't helping my goals. I"m still 50 pounds overweight and my biggest goal is to be fit, so I could care less about going to a shitty party and drinking keystone light till i puke This is not the definition of monk mode as explained as a term of art in the manosphere or here at TRP. This is probably why a number of th…
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 05:58 PM
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Project, I like how you identified two masculine traits which our members often conflate: freedom and stability. One can be both free and stable. This is a wise post.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 05:50 PM
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This is the correct advice, /u/MachoMonk. Particularly this: Social skills are at least as important as being fit etc. And you cannot get them from the book, TRP blogs or reddit. Socialization is such a powerful process that being experienced in socializing with others can have a dramatic impact on your life. Everything from joining a fraternity to developing a network of business contacts is based on socialization. I would highly encourage you to forgo any "monk moding" at such a young age.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 05:34 PM
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I knew there was a reason we freed ourselves from those Redcoats.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 07:03 AM
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Skip marriage, forget having kids, and be "alpha". Then watch as all of your friends get married, have kids, and you're left alone. The Red Pill is what each individual man makes of it. The Red Pill is not just a singles kegger. Understand this, and you'll find Red Pill society is all around you.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 03:50 AM
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This exact principle is the bedrock on which the insitution of marriage was built. Thank you for your wise post.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 07:53 PM
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No idea if you're still following the users who have replied to this post, but if you are, I would appreciate your help in being accountable and consistent with this goal. I am and continue to do so, but it is by PM. I love your plan. It is detailed enough to motivate you, but simple enough in its single goal to not overwhelm you. I will check in with you, Sovereign, to make sure you're following through. Let's get that six pack!
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 07:36 PM
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A wise and sensible comment. although you will have to work much much harder at finding the right person I tend to agree with Dalrock's model on this issue, where the younger you both are (or really, she is) the less you have to work to begin: Starting a family with a GOOD wife and disciplined, healthy kids
/r/TheRedPill22/01/16 04:01 PM
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To fix your post, I suggest you change the title to a neutral question like, "QFRP: Do you believe in love?" That way, /u/hyperrreal can permit you to post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 08:02 PM
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[U]nconditional love do[es] exist. I am a happily married man to my high-school sweetheart, and I disagree with this statement. Unconditional love does not exist. That is what makes us human. We all fall short. We all have conditions that we will not waive. If you seek unconditional love, get a dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 07:58 PM
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Yes, for nearly every category except the law (and that, too, may be subject to argument). Every person is better or worse in nearly every subjective and objective aspect when compared against every other person: wealth, social standing, power, network, drive, athletic ability, business acumen, language skills, intelligence, happiness, height, weight, muscle composition, voice, body chemistry, etc. Humans are so unique and unequal that the very thought of people arguing otherwise (except under t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 03:55 AM
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To expand further, /u/MorpheusGodOfDreams nailed it below when he said "no one is equal."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 05:09 PM
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sure, no one is equal. The sooner everyone accepts this, the sooner we can cross off another tired PPD cliché.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 05:07 PM
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I have never heard these terms of art used on TRP (although your classifications are interesting). The first is essentially "fake it till you make it," right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 04:37 PM
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BPD extro. Confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:57 PM
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I put far more value on fact. So did James Watson. Look at what happened to his legacy when he tried to tell people that the races weren't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:13 PM
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Now that's a BPD, ride-or-die, gun moll, extro. Remember Protopill's No. 1 rule, my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 04:21 PM
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Paragraph writers! May you feast on the blood of many bloopers!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 04:18 PM
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For Men: No to all, except ear piercings. As for why, all of the above traits are characterized by unnecessary risk taking, body mutilation, and masculinity--all of which are viscerally unattractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 09:23 AM
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That's some Dark Triad level narcissism there, Xemnas. You're on your way to becoming an alpha of alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 02:31 PM
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I didn't translate it wrong. Your quote is from the Kings James Version, and mine the English Standard Version. I do agree though that the sexual relationship in marriage is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 05:13 AM
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The milllennials on this site aren't going to understand your references to a 90s show. Only us olds will.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 03:28 AM
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That's a good quote. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 03:25 AM
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Mads, I dub you Hall Monitor of PPD. Please update flair accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 01:12 AM
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Why is country capitalized?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 10:45 PM
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Did you mean to respond to me? I'm aware that boys go to college at much lower rates than women. I'm also aware that women do better than men in standardized educational arenas. Further, I didn't contend that women weren't hired because they are competent (I simply provided the real life hiring situation). Did you read my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 09:15 PM
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Very few.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 06:52 PM
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How do your own experiences compare? Very similarly, particularly in the legal and business industries. 18-29 year old women are hired to look at. This is so commonly known in the Big Law setting that associate-partner fuckfests are basically condoned. I could tell you some crazy stories. On the other end, younger men are just not perceived as competent as compared to older men. This is just a fact of life. You don't have the same experience. This is precisely why when I hire young men, I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:34 PM
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From what I've seen all reds, even the ones that "accepted" things are still angry and bitter. Not me, Chemist. :). NARPLT?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:21 PM
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Thank you for sharing this, mythrow. It was a fascinating read.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:13 PM
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We've still got the bar, my man. Nothing can take that from us. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:58 PM
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Guitars, you would be a guy I would love to have a drink with. I bet you have some great stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:35 PM
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Yes, my wife is my family. Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. -Genesis 2:24.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:01 PM
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The amount of people on the internet that proudly share their stories of horrible physical abuse is in direct conflict with my real life experience as an attorney in helping victims of abuse seek asylum and shelter from their abusers. I have never once, in over a decade of practice, encountered a victim that was excited to tell his or her story.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 03:28 PM
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This made me laugh because it's so true. Those Pumpkin Spiced Lattes, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 03:23 PM
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What point am I missing? Please elaborate. You asked for the traits that define masculinity and femininity, and I provided them to you (with internal sources, too).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 06:13 AM
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Of course. Let me know if you have any further questions after you review the "traits and characteristics" section regarding each of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 06:09 AM
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Doesn't matter, isn't important to me. Sums up my thoughts on the topic as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 06:08 AM
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I would start here and here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 06:06 AM
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Private companies - as someone who has decades of experience within the union movement - reserve the right to hire and fire at their own discretion. I'm aware. It's a basic employment law principle called at will employment, and it's completely irrelevant to what I said above. Sure, it's difficult to remove a professional. But most of us are not. Professional is a term of art. Professionals are individuals in professions, like attorneys, teachers, doctors, etc. Whether or not one is a profession…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 12:31 AM
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Susan, thank you for this sensible comment. The amount of armchair legalsmithing in this thread, from people without legal training, is tickling. Edit: Now it's just getting embarrassing. People are contending corporations have the same indiscriminate power to fire as colleges do. Corporations have such restricted ability to fire that when I used to work sexual harassment and wage and hour cases, we would investigate for months, employing private investigators and spending hundreds of thousands …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:16 PM
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Lol!! Millions of men fought, bled, and died for the rights you now have as an accused in one of the most transparent, fair criminal justice systems ever devised and the SJWs look to lay college administrators, who have no legal training whatsoever, to enforce the rule of law. As /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin would say, I'm happy I'm dying sooner than the millennials. You all are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 03:00 AM
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No. Maybe I was imprecise and that is my mistake, but I meant that I am aware that some younger, inexperienced men without much wisdom or balance post extro blather about exploitation/gamesmanship on TRP. I simply do not read/subscribe/agree with/condone/etc. those posts (and I know which ones they are because the posts are not well organized and the titles are sensationalist). They offer nothing of value to me, so I have no need to pay them any attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 11:35 PM
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You gotta get out there and spread the word, Atlas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 11:31 PM
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I am of the similar opinion. It is better to simply have information than to be in the dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 11:30 PM
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2) Not very attractive. :( with a name like FemBayliss (I lol'd when I read that), how could you not be the embodiment of beauty?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 09:55 PM
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I can't tell if you disagree with me or if you are just posting this as an exposition, so I'll just respond as if you disagree with my statement above. Please correct me if my interpretation is wrong. The law (Cal Penal code 261a.3) does not say the person has to be unconscious for it to be illegal, just that the " accused" could have reasonably known that a intoxicating/anesthetic/controlled substance was affecting the "victims" ability to resist. It does not clarify when a person is unable to …
/r/TheRedPill13/01/16 08:11 PM
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Essentially, what Pem is saying, is that as long as the town bicycle doesn't like it, she has a zero N count. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:39 PM
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As Kilos says well, this is a sensible answer. Do what you want in life. Whatever consequences, good or bad, come from your choices are yours to bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:33 PM
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Oh, interesting. I tend to stick to strict definitions. "Sex" is sexual intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:27 PM
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I'm wondering how you can be against gamesmanship and still be Red? If there is gamesmanship encouraged on TRP, I don't subscribe to it. Red Pillers come in all types and pick and choose from the "salad bar" of TRP as they will. I, for example, am a married man with children. My father taught me the Red Pill before it was ever called the Red Pill (back when it was just called masculinity and traditionalism). Accordingly, I subscribe to many of the core RP principles, which are basically long los…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:24 PM
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It depends on how I ask the question, right? If I say, "how many men have you had sex with," well then she should say one, right? If I ask, how many men have you done anything sexually with, then she should say three, right? However I phrase the question, she should respond to the best of her knowledge and ability. And I expect her to hold me to the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:11 PM
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Yes, the premise is that they're all true from her point of view (so her experience is fully encapsulated by answer #6). I see. I thought they were objectively true. Then I'll slightly revise my first answer to you to allow statements 2 through 6 because they are in fact true. Statement 1 is not a reasonable response in an LTR, and not one I would accept coming from someone wanting to be in an honest relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 04:54 PM
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You said they are all true, right? If so, any of them. I don't care how the answer is formulated, only that it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 04:48 PM
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This is why interactions between the sexes today have been nothing less than catastrophic: the unnecessary gamesmanship. I assume this type of question comes up during the LTR phase, and if it does, just fucking answer the question. I don't understand how people expect to have decades-long relationships with people they can't be completely open and honest with. If my wife asks me a question, I answer it honestly and directly, and I expect the same from her. Adolescent gamesmanship is why this ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 04:39 PM
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Not all men are Patriarchs. A Patriarch is a man who has special power and influence over not just his family but also in society, due to privileges gathered through intersections of age, wealth, achievement, lineage, patronage and the exploitation of others as these attributes add to his place in the elite social hierarchy. Ding ding ding. Silly feminists think Billy Beta, in his Honda Odyssey, is oppressing them through the patriarchy. Hahaha! The quicker people accept that elite powerful men …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 04:21 PM
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No. Which is why the law has never formulated an exception to the rule criminalizing rape. There are defenses, but not exceptions. Contrarily, homicide has exceptions because we as a society characterize some defenses as "perfect" defenses (meaning no liability), like self defense, due to moral rationales (one should be able to defend himself). Rape is a crime without any perfect defenses because there are no situations in which the crime can be rationalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 07:44 AM
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This is a question to ask at MRP, not TRP. The vast majority of TRP members will share the sentiment gainz articulates above.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/16 07:26 AM
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The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men. TRP is not for women; RPW is. If she needs to speak with a good RPW, she should speak with Atlas, WingN, or Camille. They can help her out.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/16 03:04 AM
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This is only partially true. You can give consent while drunk. The inquiry is fact intensive, but couples can very much give consent to sex while drunk. The legal standards for rape and its defense can be reviewed in my post here.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/16 02:52 AM
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A contract signed under the influence may or may not be valid (referred to as a voidable contract). A person who signed a contract while intoxicated can attempt to cancel the contract with the other party, or can go to court seeking to void the contract. Usually such a contract is only voidable if the other party had reason to know of the level of impairment. The totality of the circumstances will affect the court's decision and it is typically a fact-intensive inquiry. Such factors as if the ot…
/r/TheRedPill12/01/16 02:44 AM
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The Book of Proverbs, the Bible Either New York Times #1 Best Seller The Investment Answer (for novice investors) or "the best book on investing ever written"--The Intelligent Investor (for those with some experience). Gary Harrison's seminal work on skepticism--Think The classic etiquette manual that sorely exposes the sophistication and class missing from contemporary society--Amy Vanderbilt's Complete Book of Etiquette. Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/16 09:53 PM
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You have only two options: become more attractive or next her. She clearly has the upper hand in the relationship and knows that she doesn't have to put out to keep you. At 20 years old, 3 years in, you should not be having this problem. Take it from me, a man nearly twice your age, you may experience some lulling when your children are born, but if sex isn't on tap, particularly in the beginning, you are not the prize. Time to become the prize or drop her.
/r/askTRP10/01/16 04:43 PM
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I think personality types are fascinating, and I think there are certainly dualities that work better together than others. I, for example, am an ENTJ, and my wife is an INTJ, which is the archetype for the Captain-First Mate model (see also ENTJ and INFP).
/r/askTRP10/01/16 04:37 PM
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Any advice would be great! Harsh or not. It will help me ten fold. You have more goals identified here than I have ties in my tie rack. This is a recipe for disaster. I've throughly explained this in my goal-setting post, but I will reiterate it briefly here: when you first start out trying to improve your life, the initial motivation carries you (see New Years fat loss goal setters) but that motivation quickly burns out when you are faced with the daunting task of achieving all of your goals al…
/r/TheRedPill10/01/16 01:25 AM
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Great comment. The "salad bar" analogy is dispositive here.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/16 06:26 PM
1

How do you speak firmly, but softly? any examples? In other words, when you speak, you speak with conviction and articulation; no stuttering, no poor eye contact, no "um," "you know," or colloquial speak. You don't have to speak loudly to demonstrate a mastery of speaking well. In fact, doing so often conveys arrogance or immaturity, where speaking firmly, but softly conveys confidence. You want to demonstrate you have a command over language and that you are articulate; not a bloviator. And how…
/r/TheRedPill08/01/16 11:10 PM
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Don't be too nice, seriously. Don't be nice, period. I have discussed this here before, and it will likely be the thrust of my next Fatherly Guidance Series post: don't be nice; be good. Goodness is the model you strive for, not niceness. "Do not act as if you were going to live ten thousand years. Death hangs over you. While you live, while it is in your power, be good." -Marcus Aurelius
/r/TheRedPill07/01/16 07:01 PM
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Ouch you are fucked buddy. She is working in one of the most alpha work environments there is out there. She is going to be surround by men who have built practices with there own toil and sweat but in addition to these are competitive business men. In law you either succeed by being aggressive and getting rich or die in the archive room. You aren't going to be compared to the salary that she makes. You are going to be compared to the salary that the senior partners make. /u/skulktofade, this ad…
/r/TheRedPill07/01/16 05:09 PM
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Thank you, Red. Glad you enjoyed it. Please see my comment here regarding how to properly accept a business card.
/r/TheRedPill07/01/16 09:36 AM
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I appreciate your expertise and insight, as always, Fiat. Thank you for helping.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 11:03 PM
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"Random" networking events, no. Remember the Research step, what are your goals in networking in your field. Are there any specific industry groups you can go to? Are you under 40? There are usually young professionals groups you can join? What about a locate philanthropy you are passionate about? Try to network your way into a responsible position, like a board member.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 07:54 PM
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/u/NightWingTRP's analysis here is spot on and requires little supplementation. I will echo his recommendation that your friend cease all contact with her, particularly by written word, and contact an experienced family law attorney immediately. I would suggest that, if he cannot afford it, he seek out an attorney that would be willing to take such a sympathetic case pro bono. I would maybe start with a local bar association and ask around. I'm sorry I can't give specific legal guidance because …
/r/askTRP06/01/16 07:49 PM
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That is sufficient, yes, and much better than stuffing it away in your pocket. However, I would still suggest getting a (preferably metal) double-sided business card holder. It adds a whole new level of sophistication and class.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 05:07 PM
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My deepest condolences regarding the loss of your father. A lot of young men today never had these teachings, even ones so simple as tying a tie. But we're going to change that. Thank you for your comment, so_called.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 04:40 PM
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Thank you, AOF. I am glad you enjoyed it. I haven't yet written anything on interns, but I know that Vasiliy has: https://archive.is/SNhEe.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/16 02:53 PM
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I have always worked for a large law firm or the government, so I had standard business cards issued by those firms. I have seen people that have personal business cards that they get from Vistaprint or similar online business card services, but those individuals usually are entrepreneurs or individual businessmen. I think it is fine to stick with a large company card because the company's brand and authority imprint on you when you use the company's card. For example, hands standard Skadden car…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 11:01 PM
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Typically, the host knows most (if not all) of the people at the event. For example, I am on the boards of a number of organizations. When we host an event, I have new people come to me and ask for an introduction to another person. As a board member, I know almost everyone, so I am confident I can make an introduction. The same is true at professional networking events. Say I am at a Bar Association event run by the local chapter of a bar association. I should ask the President of that organiza…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 10:15 PM
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What you missed (or misplaced perhaps) is that when networking, you need to be able to provide something of value to the people you are trying to network with. This concept was neither misplaced nor missed. I intentionally omitted this basic concept because, like attending an interview or a networking event well dressed and well groomed, it is inherent in networking that both parties come to the table with something of value. Indeed, one of the first sentences in my OP is: Networking is, at its …
/r/TheRedPill04/01/16 09:57 PM
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I've read this entire series of comments and your argument is solid. I, too, am patiently awaiting a response to this question: Why? Just curious if you have some reasoning for this or are just throwing it out there. Who determines what makes an act truly WORTHY of shaming, and why is it you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 03:36 PM
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Thank you, Xemnas. I am glad you enjoyed this. I hope you are doing well. Edit: I remember my first post because it was down voted and attacked by people who were afraid to accept the truth--that the Model is the best and most enduring socio-sexual model in the history of mankind. It is of course interesting that this series is essentially what I have learned from the Model. I would love to hear your thoughts on it, Xemnas.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/16 03:27 PM
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How many classes do you have and of what type are they? What helped me do very well in school was pairing up with a single other man in the class, who I thought was very talented, and we studied together. We became lifelong friends. I would suggest you do the same--locate someone in the class that looks like they have their shit together and study together.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/16 03:18 PM
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I, too, have awful handwriting. I typically type my thank you notes in professional letter format (on letterhead, if you have it), or I will thank them via email if timing is important.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/16 02:59 AM
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It's very difficult to network when you want to reconnect with someone, after not speaking with them at all, after a year. If you have to do this, for whatever reason, I would suggest maintaining email contact. Although, waiting an entire year to reconnect is a lost opportunity, in my opinion.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/16 06:05 PM
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This does happen, and when it does, I would just make a pregnant pause when accepting the business card. At least that shows you are considerate, and you didn't just shove it in your pants pocket.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/16 03:26 PM
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This is all personal experience. Like I mentioned to Rickey below, I have not studied the topic by way of books much; my experience comes from failure, learning from mentors, and "field testing."
/r/TheRedPill03/01/16 03:24 PM
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Then graciously exit the conversation and continue to mingle, like: "I loved talking to you, Bill. Hopefully we can see each other again before the end of the event." Or ask them to introduce you to someone else at the event.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/16 03:22 PM
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I'm glad you asked. Most people, when presented with a business card, do one of two things: stuff it in their pocket or write on it. That's because standard networking advice says to stay engaged with your target and write a small note to remember them. This is quantity over quality advice, and I would advise against it. A business card is a representation of yourself and your personal brand. People put time into designing their cards. When presented with a card, we do three things: 1) look at t…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/16 07:38 AM
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I would suggest all of the above, but I would particularly make time, even if it's just a few times a year, to having a lunch or dinner meeting to connect face to face. Sometimes, in our digital age, people forget that in-person meeting is vital to maintaining a relationship.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/16 07:29 AM
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Of course. The questions show that you are engaged, eager, and personable, desired qualities companies look for in employees. I have only read one book on networking and that is Dale Carnegie's work. All of my experience comes from my father or "field training." I have heard good things about Never Eat Alone though.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/16 07:27 AM
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I've been reading your comments recently, and I like what you have to say. You understand the importance of balance in maintaining a Red Pill relationship. I look forward to reading more of your insights.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/16 01:13 AM
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The principles of networking apply irrespective of gender. Dale Carnegie's seminal piece was not entitled, "How to Win Men and Influence Men," although his audience was largely geared towards men, as will yours. Due to the modern nature of the business world, women will likely be involved in your networking goals, but I would contend that making friendships with men is more fruitful.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/16 08:35 PM
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See my discussion with mugatucrazypills.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/16 08:32 PM
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The point is that many women use religion as a tool to rinse repeat their virtue in sin and be saved cycle. I am aware, which is why I did not report the post. This is highly relevant to a discussion of sexual strategy I agree that OP's post, and not the adolescent comments that follow, are highly relevant, which is why my comment was limited to "low quality comments." even if it assails your "sacred cows" Your disingenuous insults are misplaced. it begs the question whether YOU are letting your…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/16 08:25 PM
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TRP's mission is to increase men's sexual power and options. Anyone who does not share that goal will be banned the instant we detect them. Bigoted discussions about the religious or the areligious do not advance the goal of this sub.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/16 08:13 PM
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I will hold you to that, Six. You've got this.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/16 03:53 PM
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Is it possible to have children and still adhere to red pill strategy? I hope that some of our members who have children can contribute to this post with some comments for the benefit of our other members. I, too, am a father. I have been married for nearly two decades. I would agree with your statement that it is possible to raise children in a Red Pill family. Regarding selection, you identified some red flags that I agree with. In my experience, however, there are some red flags that are more…
/r/TheRedPill02/01/16 07:54 AM
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This post is filled with low quality comments that violate a host of sidebar rules, including, but not limited to: -Rule Zero - I have gained absolutely no value regarding TRP's mission reading the adolescent pissing contests below. -Disingenuous argumentation made in bad faith relating to matters of a "moral imperative," whether religious or not. I have reported these comments, and I encourage the mods to delete them all; they offer no substance to the discussion and simply distort the signal.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/16 07:36 AM
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That's impossible! SirNemesis, stop spreading lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 06:42 AM
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"Niceness" is a timid trait, and why it is never considered a virtue or characteristic of goodness. Thousands of years ago, when men discussed goodness they never once mentioned the word "nice." See, e.g., Meditations, Marcus Aurelius: Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one. Of course, the etymology of the word "nice" is more than illustrative, and shows how the modern understanding of the term is wrong. The origin of the term from the late 13c. is "foolish, stupid, s…
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 08:25 PM
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Thank you, Xemnas. I appreciate that. Happy New Year to you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 07:58 PM
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I'm glad to see you are up on your traditional RP, Xemnas. Also see Free Northerner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 07:31 AM
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Your volatile thought process is certainly illustrated in your post here. At once you seek the family life, and, at the same time, you seek to "be as independent as possible in life." Such mercurial thinking is typical of youngsters, so don't be distressed. You need to calm your mind; reading this even made me anxious. Your oneitis clearly did a number on you, and you need to cure that affliction first before you begin exploring these deeper topics.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 06:09 AM
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Patience is certainly the hallmark virtue of planning and goal setting, and our subscribers are benefited by your citation to Cato, a man with a fascinating and long history in the Republic. For more on planning and goal setting see my post from several days ago.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/15 03:54 PM
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This is even more frightening than it initially appears. The criminal law has always prohibited imminent unlawful action accompanying words (see Brandenburg v. Ohio), but it has never, until now, prohibited only words (see, e.g., R v. Meade and Belt (1823) ("But no words or singing are equivalent to an assault, nor will they authorize an assault in return.”)) I can only pray the United States' jurists stand as a bulwark against this abomination--one that is against centuries of common law ideas.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 10:41 PM
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Excellent! I am going to check in with you next week, and I want you to tell me you're now 1 week into quitting. Reach out to me if you ever need to talk about your cravings. You've got this.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/15 09:22 PM
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Habits are easy to break; addictions not so much. I would rather have to grab an Altoid/gum when I wanted a cigarette than a smoke; wouldn't you?
/r/TheRedPill27/12/15 10:10 PM
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Interestingly enough, this issue came up hundreds of years ago. The law now has an established maxim for this very situation: de minimus non curat lex, meaning literally, "the law does not concern itself with trifles."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/15 08:51 PM
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A friend of mine was a heavy smoker. He quit by, not shitting you, eating an Altoid whenever he had a craving. I will do my best to check in with you every week, my friend. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/15 07:40 PM
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I would like this. All of my future posts will be on subjects like networking, social grace, investing, preparing a budget, and getting involved in philanthropic organizations, all of which raise SMV and are certainly related to the mission of this sub, but which have a more immediate impact in other areas of our members' lives.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/15 05:11 PM
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Women put a lot of time and effort into their makeup and into picking outfits. A simple, yet effective, compliment would be saying,"look good tonight. That dress fits you well." Compliment her on the effort she put into looking good for your date. Absolutely. I hope what I said above was not misconstrued to exclude examples such as this.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 10:03 PM
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We clearly have a miscommunication issue, which I am having difficulty specifically identifying due to the vagueness in your comment. Let's begin with the main point of my comment, which is that in monogamous long-term relationshps and marriages "removing the goalie" is a perk. From this narrow statement, you apparently agree with me on the marriage point, but not on the LTR point. Your evidence for this is a single mom you are currently in an LTR with who refuses to go on birth control. My stat…
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 07:35 PM
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Ah, one of the perks of ltr/marriage: bareback and no pull out.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 05:53 PM
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So in conclusion, it's true: in our imperfect world, not everyone is capable of being the best at everything. But you don't know your potential until you achieve it, so always aim to be the best in the world at whatever you do. I fully appreciate your post here, and I understand your points, but I would like to offer some more targeted advice: Aim to be the best in areas in which you are actually talented. Two examples from my experience should be illustrative. First, I have seen many young lawy…
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 04:44 PM
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personal 6 month goal: master the art of speaking//storytelling. I've never been much of talker, probably because of some bullying -> avoid getting attention etc. I'm going to achieve this by looking at good speakers and standup comedians, and write down what makes them stand-out, next I'll try to practice these things, starting with one thing and adding to the list every week. Thank you for your comment. Let me make suggestion to your personal goal regarding developing your oratory skills. I ha…
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 02:34 PM
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Do not compliment women. They hear it so often it means nothing and puts you among the ranks of men who don't have anything better to say than "you're pretty". I disagree. "You're pretty" is a thoughtless, knee-jerk quip, not a compliment. Compliments derive from taking notice of praiseworthy situations and efforts; they are a mark of awareness. Compliments are in fact one of the finest tools for acquiring more refined social skills and demonstrate grace. I highly encourage everyone here to prac…
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 03:18 AM
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Side note: They were swingers for a while This is the most important point in the entire post, and it is relegated to a side note. I feel that it was a big mistake getting involved in the swinger lifestyle since she was never in support of it. Holy fucking red flags.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/15 04:20 PM
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Thank you for this awesome post /u/ProtoPill ! I would also like you to contact me and ask me about my goals and how I'm trying to reach them. I will do so. Thank you for your comment and goals, Wombat.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/15 01:39 AM
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While I agree with the ultimate conclusion, this part should be clarified: IMO, Hookers are Low SMV women Make no mistake, prostitutes are not in the sexual market place. Prostitutes are instead in their own market place, one that, unlike the actual SMP, is without barriers to entry for the John and has a guaranteed price at which the transaction occurs and always occurs.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 11:33 PM
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What's your dissertation on, Stothe? What type of business are you starting? Please keep me updated on your progress, and I will check in with you.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 08:31 PM
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I will echo Vasiliy's comments here. Wonderfully said.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 07:54 PM
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I greatly appreciate that, Valiant. Your suggestion about keeping a daily journal is on the mark. When you write, you permanently inscribe your thoughts, your intentions, in the moment on the page. When you have a written journal, it challenges you. The words say, "I am your intention. Now Act." Your own words are at times the greatest motivator of all.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 04:12 AM
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One of the important goals in my life is to raise my kids to be self sufficient, happy adults. You are doing more than you can possible imagine for them by just having this attitude. It's not an easy task when parents today are completely doing the opposite: coddling, protecting, and embracing the comfortable lie instead of the hard truth. This is what will make your children stronger; that you resist complacency. "Meds" to calm him down. Ah, yes. "ADHD"--the most wrongly diagnosed "disorder" of…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 04:10 AM
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Read 2 books per month What books are you currently reading or would like to read? Your goals are all measurable, consistent, and attainable. The only thing stopping you is your own resistance. May you find success. Please do check in with me, I'm missing that external force that reminds me where I should be heading. I will do so. Thank you for your comment, Dollar.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 04:04 AM
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Thank you for your kind words, Epixs. I hope you get a lot out of the next post in my series.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 04:02 AM
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Driving to school when you've just gotten your license is mot as exciting as driving to school 2 years after the license. I remember when my parents got me my first car. I had the fattest fucking grin on my face, and I just drove around the block. That day was awesome. Good times.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 03:23 PM
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You know me too well. That's exactly what I would have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 11:31 PM
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Absolutely. One of the primary techniques for building confidence is to talk to yourself in the mirror. There is actually a great TED Talk on this very issue where the host discusses the importance of telling yourself that "I am a success."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 08:14 PM
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"Didn't get sex from the wife last night after 2 days. Time to have an affair."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 08:10 PM
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Nothing in this world is guaranteed. You make calculated decisions after taking into account as many factors as you can. My wife came from an intact, upper class traditional Christian household, with love for her father and mother. She wanted to be a mom since she was a teenager, and she loves helping people. She is kind, smart, beautiful, and a giving philanthropist. I learned all of this through vetting her for years before we eventually got married. Our families and our friends vetted us both…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 07:05 PM
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Millenials are pussies Truer words have never been spoken.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 09:49 PM
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I love your shtick and tautologies. Please stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 04:58 PM
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Hire. A. Lawyer. /u/Unlikely_Deviant, this is the only advice you need to take from any commenter here. Hire an attorney and delete this post. May you prevail.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/15 02:50 PM
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This made me laugh; clever. Fun fact: did you know that you can theoretically freeze your milk for up to three months?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 09:44 PM
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Impossible. If TRPers want to take a term from epistemological philosophy and redefine it to fit their weird beliefs on gender and sex, they're free to do so. But what if feminists take a term from the legal arena and refine it to fit their weird beliefs on gender and sex--like say, the crime of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:37 PM
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Nope. As an ENTJ, I score high on one of the dark triad traits--Machiavellianism--but I score low on the other two.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:47 PM
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There are so many terms (AB/BF/greater beta/high beta/benevolent alpha/patriarch, etc.) for it now, I don't know what's the right one, so I just used hybrid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 07:42 PM
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Dark Triad, man. Women just love it. The most psychopathic, abusive dudes I remember from college were absolutely killing it on a level I, even as a hybrid, could never. It is something that's both sick and fascinating to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:28 PM
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I have the same power as my father and his father did - the power to make my own decisions. The problem isn't that men have lost power. Absolutely true. The problem is that the rules changed, and males no longer had a firm understanding of what each available decision results in, and what the risks are. The problem is that these men lack male role models. Young men and boys lack mentors. What a difference in a young man's life a successful mentor can be. That is why I strive everyday to mentor m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:10 PM
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Good for you, Philomexa. The "growing up together" aspect will make your bond very strong. We've been going nearly 20 years with 2 children, and I am very happy I made the choice to start early.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:07 PM
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OP, if I may, I have a few questions, out of curiosity. You said you have a high partner count, how high? What, in your experience, has been the type of woman (if any) that has fallen for you? Do any of them resemble the SJW/BP archetype? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:58 PM
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Yawn. Those alarmist stats have been long debunked. "If you marry a virgin bride who’s over the age of 20, has an intact family, a college degree, and is a devout Christian, the chances of divorce are very low. If she’s also Asian, they’re even lower." The percent is somewhere around 10% risk, almost lower than the risk I take on buying treasury bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:39 AM
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Ew he's from the Windy City and super old. At least he's got abs for being 52.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 02:33 AM
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I do not, Fruit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:35 AM
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Is the best method for a man to settle down with a prenup with a woman 10 years younger than himself when he is in mid 30s? In my opinion and my experience, if possible, it is best to settle down as early as you can. Typically, you will have more options and there is something quite unique about growing together. My wife and I have known each other since we were teenagers, which has created an unbreakable bond in our marriage that many older people, with significant baggage, simply never will ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:40 AM
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Thank you. I am fully aware of the BLS statistics and statistics like this. Of course, when you read the entire article, you learn that the authors caution against drawing a number of inferences regarding age and marriage success, namely, because of two specific factors: (1) education levels are a substantial intervening factor affecting the results, and (2) by the very nature of the study, "caution should be exercised, however, in interpreting the data for marriage that begin after age 35. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:14 PM
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the sweet spot is mid to late 20s I agree, but I would also suggest younger--22-24--for a variety of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 09:12 PM
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I believe one of TRP's main tenets is to treat its principles like a salad bar: pick what you want and reject what you don't. TRP is a means, not an end. Accordingly, most Red Pillers, including me, reject and accept the concepts as they see fit. For example, one concept I appreciate, but reject, is "never marry." I think it is unnecessarily hyperbolic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:53 PM
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This is consistent with my experience, and around the same age I had children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:42 PM
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To spin off, and people that settle down too late are rushed and lack calculated decision-making. There is a balance to both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 08:08 PM
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"The real question is, how much asian dong can I take before I become a slut?" - Dragoness Lol! This one's great.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 06:12 PM
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100% agree on your point that offenders cannot be reformed or prevented, and emphasis should be on prosecution. This is an important point and one that needs to very clearly define the line between offenses subject to rehabilitation and offenses not subject to rehabilitation. Apex felonies, like first-degree murder, rape, arson, etc., are not crimes of opportunity, such as drug offenses, larceny, fraud, assault, etc. For this reason, jurists often differentiate between the rehabilitative (colloq…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:34 PM
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Clearly they did not read my primer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:18 PM
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Calling /u/Zachar1a, /u/vezopiraka, /u/dewbiestep, /u/cover20, /u/CisWhiteMaelstrom, and anyone else that is interested in a sample answer. For starters, maybe a brief answer to his question, so we can see it from a lawyer's perspective. Applying IRAC, we turn to address each crime separately. First, let’s address the inchoate crimes (illegal acts which have yet to be committed, primarily attempts to commit crimes, incitement to commit crimes, and conspiracy to commit crimes). Thereafter, we wil…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/15 04:02 PM
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And it is equally wrong as some extreme MRAs suggest that we should assume most allegations are false, considering every criminologist I've ever encountered asserts the opposite. Clearly those "criminologists" didn't learn the law, or don't care to accept it: the law assumes that all allegations are untrue until proven to be otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 02:39 PM
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I already tried educating the small group of people here, but I received PMs and comments from people who clearly believe (mistakenly) that rape encompasses more than the legal principles as set forth in the criminal code.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 02:25 PM
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I'm aware. I'm simply noting why sunscreen has been such a huge benefit, both health-wise and looks-wise for humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 02:17 PM
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I think neoteny is rarely discussed, despite it being one of the important factors in this discussion--a discussion that often involves 20-somethings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:39 AM
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Okay, so we are discussing total attractiveness and not just physicality. Spit-balling here from life experience with men older than me, I am guessing 45-50 probably marks the descent. At that age, my father was still in incredible shape, looked great/was healthy (due to lifestyle choices and having a wonderful wife), was far wealthier than in his 20s-30s, and had just enough experience to be wise as well as just enough intensity to still be youthful. All of the women (and men) in his life absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:58 PM
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Applying the principle of charity, Taibow, I would be happy to have a good faith discussion with you if we could clarify the issues. First: so at what age will you be willing to admit that you won't be better in every way than you were the previous year? and what do you think about that? This is ambiguous. Do you mean physically, emotionally, monetarily, academically, etc.? I would of course want to know if we are discussing intangibles like wisdom, which certainly come with age. I know we were …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:38 PM
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No problem!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:07 AM
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No, it is not a joke. I just looked at a recent National Panhellenic Conferences report, and it shows 639,000 hours donated and $3 million raised from philanthropic efforts. A similar report for IFC shows $21 million dollars raised and 3.8 million hours donated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 06:58 AM
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For me it doesn't matter that my athletic potential peaked five years ago. I am in better shape today. I am better today than I was then, in every way, therefore my peak was not in my early 20s. Well said and aligns with my thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 02:05 AM
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Sunscreen has been a major factor in maintaining good skin. I feel for the people in the 60s and 70s that lathered their bodies in oil. It really shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 02:00 AM
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I feel bad laughing, but it is funny. Thanks for the link.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/15 01:57 AM
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This is a great observation, and one that I have thought much about. Also, great coinage: "matriarchal underclass."
/r/TheRedPill15/12/15 01:43 AM
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I should delete my answer because this one is better. Another TBP strawman at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 01:17 AM
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Hey, Ben Rothlisberger is currently 2nd in ESPN's rankings, while Tom Brady is 9th. Working as intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 01:10 AM
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I actually agree here. When you are younger and building your career you don't have as much free time to workout and eat cleaner. You don't have as much money for nicer clothes. Please explain this concept to Taibow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 12:53 AM
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Thanks, Taibow. Those are professional athletes. Most people aren't professional athletes. I am not a professional athlete. I am fully aware, and I am not disputing that individuals that train like professional athletes are at their performance prime while young. My simple point, which most non-professional athletes can attest to, is that they often attain their performance prime in their 30s due to an abundance of factors, such as, lifestyle changes (better eating habits, lifting regime, and mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 12:47 AM
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Now that women are looking to settle down, a lot of the traits average guys bring to the table, steady job, loyal, courteous etc. make them more valued. RDS, these are RMV traits, not SMV traits. TRPers often confuse the two. Sexual Market Value traits relate solely to your attractiveness to a woman regarding sex, and neither your pocketbook nor your STEMLord degree do it for her. That being said, I believe TRP is right that the male apex is somewhere in the 30s. I remember when I was in my earl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 12:25 AM
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Thanks, lestratege. Please note that the common law criminal rules no longer apply in the United States. I simply wanted our readers to have the common law background. As you can see from my post, the common law was replaced with a civil law statutory structure based on the Model Penal Code. This statutory structure is very much like your country's structure in that it has enumerated elements and is codified. The "surprise" piece in your statute is fascinating to me.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 11:24 PM
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Absolutely. Fraternities and sororities are renowned for their philanthropic work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:47 PM
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Male role models, the nuclear family, and church. You know this is Reddit, right? The bravetheists will not stand for your insolence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:43 PM
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/u/hyperrreal is being much more patient than I would have been after I saw this: Therefore it should be meritocratic and fair. If it is not fair then it is failing to serve its purpose. Made me laugh out loud in my office. Life is all about competition and struggle. There is no meritocracy. There is no "fair." There are no equal playing fields, and everyone is not the same. The sooner everyone, including our children, realize this, the quicker we can move on to accepting the reality of the huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:35 PM
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1 in 3!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:00 PM
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Ironically as well, I think fraternities and sororities are most on the ball when it comes to things like alcohol abuse and sexual trouble. Absolutely consistent with my experience. We partied hard, but we were very serious about safety and security. We had private car services, designated brothers, and a risk management team.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:50 PM
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An absolutely stellar response from someone who is clearly IFC Greek.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 07:47 PM
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This is correct. Skull and Bones is a secret society, not an official IFC fraternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:48 PM
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Yes. You know that fraternities and sororities are deeply imbedded in American culture, right? Many famous, powerful, wealthy people were fraternity brothers and sisters. Fraternities and sororities are the last vestige of a time when people understood the power of building a successful network; STEMLords don't seem to understand this. Further, academic institutions permit fraternities and sororities because many of the senior administration are often former fraternity brothers and sisters and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:23 PM
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I just cannot see any justification for the existence of these organisations, or even what the point in them is. Fraternities and sororities exist as pre-real-life networking and dating organizations for high-value individuals. The parties, presents, formals, lavaliering etc. all facilitate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:08 PM
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It appears I need to draft another legal primer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 04:32 PM
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Things women do that makes them less sexually attractive: Short hair: (minus 2-3 points out of 10) I know some women manage to pull it off, but they almost invariably look even better with long hair. For 99% of women, it's a serious hit to their sexual attractiveness. Piercings or tattoos (minus 1-2 points) Athletic body(minus 1 point): I'm not just talking about grotesque female bodybuilders here, I honestly prefer a woman without any visible muscle, especially abs. Your personal attractiveness…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 03:52 AM
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100% "Alpha" in every way Yeah, that's not what TRP is about. This makes me laugh every time. I have no idea when "100% alpha" became a Blue Pill strawman because it is against core TRP principles. RPS drafted a highly-upvoted, stickied post on this very issue. Folks, it should be clear to you by now that beta in and of itself is not a negative trait. In fact, if you've used the term "beta" as a derogatory in the past week, I think it might be time to revisit the side bar. Remember that when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 03:49 AM
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What behavior/actions would you prescribe an innocent student if he is being attacked by hearsay and propensity evidence? Hearsay and propensity evidence are generally inadmissible in a court of law, but not in college tribunals (because such tribunals do not follow an evidentiary code). Accordingly, there is nothing that you can do to prohibit their admission. All you can do is object.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 03:43 AM
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It appears I'm in a two-party consent state. I'm curious, how are home surveillance systems legal then? Doesn't every celebrity in California basically have recording equipment littered throughout their property? We need to be very clear when addressing this issue. The rule as I stated above is for audio recording. Nonconsensual audio recording is criminal wiretapping, a federal and state crime. Video recording (without audio) is a different matter. Regarding nanny cameras and home security vide…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 03:34 AM
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Not no application; there are applications. If you review any studies on the in-demand degrees, IR (and other humanities) are usually at the bottom. That is not to say that one cannot obtain success through an IR degree, just be cautious when selecting humanities-heavy degrees.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 12:07 AM
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Would you recommend always having an audio recording running if you are having sex to proactively protect yourself? What other proactive steps would you recommend to protect yourself from false accusations with lies? Be extremely careful about recording another without their consent. If you are in a one-party state like California, such unilateral recordation can subject you to criminal liability. Regarding proactive measures, I would first make my selections carefully (avoid SJWs, emotionally d…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 10:38 PM
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Which makes me wonder, what's the difference between the top 20% in law? What do they do differently? How could this poster get up there and excel past the others who are trying? That would take a whole post to discuss, my friend. Briefly, though, it has to do with study habits (studying with a partner; memorization techniques), lifestyle choices (lifting regularly, eating well, having sex/relationships, and building friendships), and attitude.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 09:49 PM
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As above, children are honest with what they need. But in general, they enjoy telling you what they think. All you have to do is ask. This is one of my greatest joys in having children. Children are brutally honest, and their honesty is refreshing in a world of liars and deceivers. Excellent post.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 06:49 PM
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I'm looking to get into civil litigation, what exactly area, I have no idea. I work at a firm that does a little employment as well as products liability and I like it very much. That's great. Employment and products liability are practice ares on the rise, and that are never without demand. 2L has been great so far, I've felt much less pressure despite the material being harder, but it's stuff I'm interested in. I also work at a firm, and I think actually working helped me realize law school re…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 06:44 PM
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Your point is well taken. I was attempting to address a nuance I often see. Frequently, people write on subjects of which they are unaware of their ignorance in such subject. They mistakenly believe that they have expertise, but in fact they do not. This is, in my opinion, a failure of our education systems in engorging the egos of the entitled masses by giving them undeserved credit for arguments and ideas that are not founded in expertise.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 06:38 PM
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The majority won't try, though. I may have been ambiguous above, my mistake. Succinctly, my key point is that in law school, unlike as you have described English and IR, everyone tries. Trying is not enough. You have to win. The law is a merciless industry that is not for the timid or the unambitious.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 06:35 PM
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There have been challenges that have had some success.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 06:31 PM
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That is the right approach. I just wanted to make sure you weren't going to major in drama, English, international relations, or some other bogus humanities degree with no practical application. Enjoy your time, make friends, and study hard.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 06:02 PM
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Economics is a great major with a number of diverse pathways into banking, finance, business, and accountancy. You are correct that the legal field is currently oversaturated with law students. I do not want you to get the impression, however, that the demand for legal services is down, because it is not. The legal field is actually quite analogous to the sexual marketplace (I have actually been thinking of making a post on this). The legal field has its own 80/20 rule, whereby the top 20% of st…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 05:55 PM
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Congratulations on your scholarship! What an achievement. What are your plans regarding your college studies? A bit of unsolicited advice: make sure to choose a major and a career that are in demand and that you are talented at, and not one that you necessarily love. That trope needs to die with your generation.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 05:33 PM
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Despite the tone, this is the most correct response in this thread. A victim of a crime should report a crime to the authorities to begin the criminal justice process. If the victim cannot report such a crime because such a victim is under fear of shame or embarrassment, the law provides the answer to this dilemma: "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" The Western criminal justice system is founded on the ultimate principle that the accused need do nothing (…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 05:17 PM
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To answer the question presented, no. is this a common thing among guys or am I just a fuckboy? As you can tell by the current answers (and as I expect would be the prevailing answer if you asked a number of men), men rarely have sex with women to which they are not attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 05:09 PM
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Great question. Let's practice the IRAC method. Issue: Would offering his room to the others after the crime so that the others wouldn't be found with the body make Bob an accessory after the fact? Rule: 18 U.S.C. s. 3; see also Ninth Circuit Model Jury Instruction 5.2: The defendant is charged with having been an accessory after the fact to the crime of [specify crime charged]. In order for the defendant to be found guilty of that charge, the government must prove each of the following elements…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 05:03 PM
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Source: doing it now How is it going? What practice areas are you interested in? I hope you enjoy your 2L year. It was my favorite year because it challenged me to excel.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 04:54 PM
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Calling /u/sociosexualstatus, /u/nikomyshkin, and /u/CisWhiteMaestrom, as you all were discussing this issue. From socio: If you have time, could you also spell out the detailed differences between the regular justice system and administration, especially concerning the details that's described in this post above? The differences are enormous. First, the criminal justice system operates under constitutional rules (e.g., Fifth Amendment right to due process), judicially-created rules (Brady and G…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 04:49 PM
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I would agree. But like I said, legitimate health concerns are the exception in these cases. The vast majority of people that get 100 lbs., as stated in the OP, obese are not sneaking a pizza here and there or, as in your situation, have a legitimate medical issue. There is often a character issue that runs far deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 04:19 PM
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If an accuser turned over her computer to the Police as evidence, and there were some emails where she was emailing a friend about how she was making it up and lying to the police. Does this mean that the prosecutor would be required to turn this over to the defense? Absolutely. This is a great example of both Brady (exculpatory) and Giglio (impeachment) evidence. What about the Police? are they required to turn it over? what would happen if the Cops had spent some time working on this case and …
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 04:16 PM
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Yes, under certain circumstances. Courts have found that employers and employees enter into an implied contract whereby the employer has a "special relationship" with the employee. Similarly, there are a significant amount of rules governing teachers and their duty to rescue their students, including when disasters (earthquakes, active shooter, etc.) happen.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 04:09 PM
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I have noticed a pattern where if someone ever let's themselves get fat, they very rarely reverse this pattern. That's because, in the vast majority of situations, people that gain that much weight due so because of a character flaw and not a biological flaw. Obesity is characterized by low FTO thinking and unsuitable character for healthy long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 09:31 AM
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I am glad you find this subject fascinating. This was one of my main subjects of interest in college and remains a fascination of mine. Great sources to get you started would be Dan Carlan's Hardcore History podcast, which provides excellent examples of this phenomenon (and is absolutely fun to listen too). Also, because the Roman world is the most thoroughly researched, Gibbon's text called Decline and Fall, while dense, is a stellar read to grasp the entire history (which shows the cycles wond…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 09:01 AM
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Unfortunately, the only remuneration the law can provide is money through a defamation action once you are acquitted. The law, unfortunately, is a reactionary tool, and tries its best to set the wronged party to its original position, but we are constrained.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 01:28 AM
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I can add a brief nota bene.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 01:11 AM
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It does purposefully. I left it to enterprising jurists like SirNemesis to apply these basics and seek out the rules for the rest of the question--like a legal scavenger hunt, if you will. Anyone not interested in the bonus, can, of course, just discuss the main body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 01:09 AM
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That is correct. Marital rape is a crime in all states. In California, for example, it is criminalized under the very next section--Section 262. I simply addressed Section 261 because it occupies far more relevance in our discussions than marital rape.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 12:18 AM
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She can lie to the cops, and the officers will begin an investigation by interviewing witnesses and collecting evidence. Then, a district attorney will review that evidence and determine if there is probable cause to indict. If the defendant is indicted and unable to get the case dismissed by demurrer or any other summary adjudication method, the last defense is the lawyer's ultimate tool: cross-examination at trial. John Wigmore himself, one of this country's greatest jurists, was quoted in a f…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/15 09:05 PM
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that TRP blows way our of proportion On the contrary, the progressive news media blows this issue out of proportion. TRP is merely reactionary. IMO, there are probably many innocent people in jail and I think TRP should focus on liberating those falsely accused of rape instead of spending so much time circlejerking over their hate for regret sex. We all should be focusing on liberating innocent victims of false accusations and injustices in the criminal justice system. I don't think most people …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:58 PM
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Absolutely agree with the article; well written. I would contend that college disciplinary hearings, which are quasi-criminal, need to follow all of the rules applied in criminal proceedings, except that the burden of proof standard can be lowered to clear and convincing. Right to counsel, a Brady/Giglio type right, proper notice and opportunity to be heard, and the presumption of innocence should all be afforded immediately upon filing of a complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:53 PM
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That's very unfortunate that Switzerland has draconian rules regarding enforcing a citizen to report a crime; very encroaching on liberty.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/15 08:05 PM
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It is not always as simple as "simple vs. complex," but, yes, typically federal cases are more complex because the necessarily involve interstate issues. Federal court is where you want to be if you are accused of a crime: the judges are sharper, the attorneys are better, and the justice system is smoother.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:03 PM
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That'll do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:02 PM
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The FBI is sexist and victim blaming. Sometimes I wonder if these detractors are being intentionally dense. The Federal Bureau of Investigation, one of the elite investigatory units on Earth, and which I have personally worked with, is intentionally under reporting crime as part of a mass conspiracy to victim blame college women and enforce patriarchal notions of authority? These people have to stop doing this. It makes them seem unhinged and disingenuous to the point of absurdity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 08:00 PM
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Briefly, a federal crime is a violation of a statute passed by the United States Congress (see, e.g., 18 U.S.C. s. 641 (embezzlement)). A state crime is a violation of a statute or ordinance passed by the state legislature or a local authority (for example, Cal. Penal Code s. 261 (rape)). Typically, most crime you hear about is state crime (rape, murder, robbery, assault and battery, larceny, fraud, etc.). Usually, federal crime addresses criminal activity of a more national concern (within inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 07:55 PM
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why add a difficult legal question that provides no information or value? Because some people, like many of those here, are interested in seeing a more complicated example, and many of them want to apply the lessons in the primer. The rest is interesting but the world is changing towards a "yes means yes" standard of female consent. This is only true regarding collegiate civil misconduct, and not the criminal law. The criminal law is very clear, as articulated above. The common law elements have…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/15 07:33 PM
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I'm not really sure how not alerting police in a case like this is treated in legal world. Great question and one that is often misunderstood. No Duty to Report/Intervene In the criminal arena, if you witness a crime, generally, you are under no duty to report or intervene in such a crime. The reason for not requiring intervention or reporting is to leave policing to the professionals and to avoid turning all citizens into informants. There are some limited exceptions, including but not limited …
/r/TheRedPill12/12/15 07:27 PM
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I am not barred in the UK, so I cannot say with confidence. However, the US system is, of course, derived from the UK common law system, so there will be significant overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 07:13 PM
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That is correct, but I think DG_ gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 07:11 PM
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/u/TheMGhandi As Cis notes, hornbooks are incredibly dense, and without a modicum of legal training will be difficult for you to understand. Instead, I would recommend both Examples and Explanations and a Conviser Mini Review, which is a primer on every area of the law and is used to study for bar examinations. There's no such thing as someone good enough to defend themselves. Even if you're literally the best lawyer on Earth, hire the second best lawyer to defend you. Cis is correct here. There…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/15 07:08 PM
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cough cough cross post to femradebate What type of subreddit is that? Is that like PPD? and can you explain why due process is important to /u/ThalesToAristotle Lol. Due process is a massive area of the law. Is there anything particular /u/ThalesToAristotle is interested in discussing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 06:42 PM
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DG_, age is not an element of the offense of rape. It is an element (colloquially) in the jury's consideration, surely. But it is not a legal element of the crime. Do you see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 06:37 PM
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You are correct in that things are likely to get worse before they get better. However, I think that you and I, if not in our lifetimes, through our children, will experience a return to true liberalism and the resurgence of liberty as a cornerstone of government. History is replete with examples of the tyranny-liberty cycle, and we are currently at the apex of the dependency cycle. I would not be the least bit shocked if, in the next 50 years, a tyrant arose that dismantles the current progress…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 06:22 PM
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Oh, I see. I will resubmit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 06:05 PM
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Yes. I have since located this and read the rules and reformatted my post. Thank you, Cis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 06:01 PM
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Are you honestly a lawyer? This makes me believe you are not. Yes. I repeat again: age is not an element of the offense. I am not sure how to convince you other than to tell you to read the statute. You didn't state that the case happened in California. You just said they were university students on spring break. You are being willfully blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 05:55 PM
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Thank you, Cis. I will do that, and I hope everyone there finds it educational.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 05:44 PM
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You gave a very simple case for yourself, and then gave a very complex rape/murder case that has little to do with with anything you outlined before it. I gave a simple case to make the analysis easy to follow (a lot of people are learning these concepts for the first time). The "bonus" hypothetical is a real bar examination question, and I provided it for people like /u/SirNemesis, who wanted to read up more on additional legal theories and offenses, to draft a sample law school IRAC analysis. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 05:42 PM
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I love that you addressed the inchoate offenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 05:38 PM
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The fact that we can even write this down as something plausible that could happen just shows how fucked up our society is. Absolutely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 05:37 PM
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Absolutely incorrect. Spousal rape is a crime in all 50 states.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 04:58 PM
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Of course. Spousal rape is penalized under the same elements, but a different section of the code. See Cal. Penal Code s. 262. My analysis above concerns the more frequently employed Section 261 because that is the section most applicable to our discussions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 04:54 PM
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You realize OP has only been on Reddit for a few hours, right? His/her account is a troll account.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 02:39 PM
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You misunderstand me. Rape is a crime defined as unconsensual sexual intercourse by force, fear, fraud, or upon a person unable to give consent. See Cal Penal Code s. 261. I am not in any way contending that the crime of rape is limited to unconsensual sexual intercourse by force only. What I am saying is that the first element of rape is non consent, and college "wiffle-waffling" or "post hac regret" is not rape and calling it such disrespects actual victims of rape. Just so we are very clear: …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 02:35 PM
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Bad. The current "culture" that is hyper obsessed with classifying regret sex (and other conduct like false accusations) as rape not only demonstrates a lack of respect to real rape victims but further demonstrates a sense of entitlement and attention whoring that is sickening.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 06:09 AM
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Rape is an extremely serious apex felony. That people in the media and on social networking sites continue to conflate and misrepresent the actual crime of rape disappoints me greatly. That people make light of actual rape victims (by analogizing their experience to regret sex and the debunked 1 in 5 statistic), many of whom I have personally worked with as an attorney, is disgusting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 06:00 AM
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Women will make you into whatever they want you to be. I should have this framed and put above my entrance way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/15 12:13 AM
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Griddy knows; listen to Griddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 04:29 PM
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MissMaude knows what's up--high functional leadership coupled with high functional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 07:34 AM
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Both parties in a sexual encounter are jointly and severally responsible for an unwanted pregnancy. It is your responsibility to take control of your own conduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:06 PM
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I prefer women with a lighter, natural look. My wife has always worn very little makeup because she has a naturally pleasant face, and I really like that. Though, at times, it is nice to see her put on some heavier makeup (bright red lipstick, darker eyeshadow, lengthened eyelashes, etc.) just for fun if we have a gala or some event to go to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:35 AM
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Numbers are harrrrrd especially when my boobs keep flopping around riding the cock carousel You know what else is hard...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:31 AM
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/u/probably_quite_drug hit one point. The additional point is that all people should have "equal rights," but that "equal opportunity" (whatever that means) is impossible to enforce and even more difficult to define. The final point is that, typically, rights are combined with responsibilities; privileges with obligations. I wanted to see if you thought the sexes have both rights and responsibilities, instead of ethereal "equal opportunities." Regarding the OP, I love women. My mom is a woman; m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:37 PM
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They should be considered 100% equal and have access to the same rights and opportunities, but unfortunately that currently isn't the case. You meant "rights and responsibilities", right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 10:58 PM
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That would be great, and I be happy to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:11 PM
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"Wow, just wow." I mean I had heard about this fabeled BPer retort, but I had never seen it until now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:40 PM
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I never thought I would see a WJW in the wild. Thank you, Skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:18 PM
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I am having a hard time deciphering your rambling, but it appears that you are arguing two points: (1) TRPers probably can't pull off the OP's "strategy" because they are mostly betas; and (2) hyperbolically suggesting that men should engage in illegal acts to facilitate OP's strategy. As to the first, you are probably right. Most TRPers are betas/omegas, but that fact is irrelevant to what I said above. As to the second, it appears you misunderstand the difference between immoral (the actions O…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:27 PM
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Susandeath, special snowflake extraordinaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:41 PM
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Thank you for the thorough response. Red pill people are more varied, some are claiming very high numbers of partners and frequent sex and others have not had sex in a long time and have had very low or no partners. This is consistent with the Red Pill's subscribers, which consists, respectively, of naturals and anger phasers. All married respondents had sex in the past week or more recently. Entirely consistent with my experience. If the couple is in a happy relationship, marriage is the best f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:38 PM
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What do the results show so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:16 PM
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Apparently, strict scrutiny applies to pregnant women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 03:10 PM
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More likely, she's got some serious issues. Otherwise known as low FTO. So far, every single person in this thread has responded "no" because they recognize porn stars have low FTO.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 02:52 PM
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This is the most rational response so far. Clearly, when in a contentious and litigious situation like the one stated in the OP, the only options are to concede or to fight. And to fight, you will have to use everything against that party you can muster.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 04:05 AM
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Embrace the beta, Xemnas!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 12:32 AM
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what if I told you not all girls were in a sorority? Impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 11:23 PM
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Even with your note, I went straight to the double entendre.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:51 PM
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Now I know why women are fat. Refined grains my friends; stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 04:54 PM
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ARS is correct here. High FTO is characteristic of high beta - also called functional leadership/functional support. Also, yes TRP keeps misconstruing "beta," despite there being dozens of posts from RPS, Rollo, etc. expressly stating that beta isn't bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:16 PM
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He absolutely followed the model that RPers would describe as the typical beta existence, having one girlfriend (as far as I know), tying her down to a relatively early marriage, and having a solid family and kids. This is the highest form of RP - the functional leader and the functional supporter - the Alpha Bucks/the benevolent patriarch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:13 PM
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I don't see why disagreement on specifics within the TRP camp is seen as some kind of mind-blowing hypocrisy, when you have similar disagreements in politics and feminism and this is actually encouraged for healthy debate. Only Bluepillers seem obsessed with the idea that TRP having internal disagreements of interpretation is somehow a bad thing. You nailed it, TheKickboxingGuy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:06 PM
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And if they do, they would be incorrect. Like I said above, if, based on your research, AWALT is an absolutism on MRP, then I would respectfully disagree with MRP. I don't post anywhere but here, but I might ask in IRC. I'll let you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:57 PM
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I'm sure the "guidelines" (whatever those are) don't say this. And if they do, they would be incorrect. AWALT is a nothing more than a cautionary heuristic, and not, in any way, an absolutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:57 AM
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Now this, this right here, is how you write satire. Bravo! You bloopers should be taking notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 03:55 AM
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"You know what my biggest problem was? Introversion. The absolute death knell to a man--introversion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 02:58 AM
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This is correct. Progressivism always ends up dying when "the shit hits the fan." Gender politics aren't so important when your children are starving and you're under constant threat of death.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:01 PM
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This is the obvious correct answer. Please close the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 04:58 PM
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I know you can parent better than that, Archwinger. How old is your daughter? Despite what you seem to be implying, a strong foundation of good parenting can overcome the selfish, materialistic, low FTO push from society. You can be that good parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 03:36 PM
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have talked about this subject with many women at length. Heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:44 PM
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Upvote for "flesh titanic." Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 02:42 PM
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Astute observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:26 PM
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The most balanced, successful children grow up with and desire both feminine emotion, nurturing, and touch; and masculine discipline, guidance, and motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 07:23 PM
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Keep it up, Xemnas!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 04:14 PM
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Great flair. One of my favorite verses: The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:48 PM
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Why is someone down voting everything I say and anyone who talks to me says ffs Don't worry! White knight protopill is here with upvotes!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:46 PM
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Lol!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:44 PM
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moralizing or dehumanizing statements As /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin has said several times, moralizing has no place in RP--it is not core RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 05:28 AM
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I'm going to read shit which will actually help me improve my SMV I'm sure those books are interesting (I haven't read any of them), but reading doesn't increaase your SMV, man. I like you, Xemnas. Why not use that obsessive compulsion to maybe read one book, and then try all the things the book says, and then read another book, etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 05:14 AM
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That's cool, but you probably don't need anymore reading. You probably know more about RP than most RPers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 05:02 AM
1

Someone has been reading their Rollo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 04:59 AM
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I didn't mean you. I meant this is how millennials think. It's basackwards. Go Gen-X!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:56 AM
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My feeling is that if a woman is a virgin in her twenties, she is either undatable or not interested in sex. Why are you trying to meet virgin women in your twenties? Meet them in your teens, lock her down, and enjoy a wonderful life. Millennials...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:53 AM
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Jeez, with those options, the answer is too obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:48 AM
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Close the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:43 AM
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It definitely works, but you don't need a six-digit car. The vast majority of women are beyond impressed at an M3, AMG, or S4. You don't need a Ferrari.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:38 AM
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Nailed it, Griddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:57 PM
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This is correct and consistent with my natural experience of coming to RP principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 11:23 PM
2

I like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 11:01 PM
4

As RPS implies in his post (and /u/TheGreasyPole has said before), a lot of TRP subscribers are ex-beta NiceGuys where, on a balancing scale, they were piling on 100% beta traits--to their detriment. Now, many have swung to the other extreme and have piled on 100% alpha. A lot of the naturals and older guys; myself included, are well aware of the importance of balance. In fact, if you read my comments, most center around this important understanding. Fundamental RP relies on balance. I try where…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 10:48 PM
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My theory is that, women whom end up with assholes but say they truly want nice guys ... It's far simpler than what you describe. When women say they want a "nice guy," they don't mean a supplicating, groveling, servile bravetheist. They just want a genuinely nice guy. When you hear a woman giggle and call a man a "jerk," as she punches his arm when he teases her, he's doing it exactly right. He's the "nice asshole", as I like to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 10:38 PM
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The Mod of TRP himself, /u/redpillschool drafted a highly-upvoted, stickied post on this very issue. Folks, it should be clear to you by now that beta in and of itself is not a negative trait. In fact, if you've used the term "beta" as a derogatory in the past week, I think it might be time to revisit the side bar. Remember that when you suggest a man is a "beta" what you really mean is that he lacks alpha qualities and lets people take advantage. I would rather not associate such a negative sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 10:22 PM
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Oh no!! I didn't read Paragraph 2, subsection D where you took it all away!! TRP manipulated me!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 07:33 PM
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It's not about guarantees. I said nothing about guarantees, and neither does TRP. TRP makes no warranties, express or implied, wubs. But Pem, when I took my flair, I signed a document entitled "Rights and Responsibilities as a Misogynistic Shitlord." Paragraph 2, subsection c expressly provides: "For due consideration of Signator's soul, The Red Pill expressly provides to Signator, to the extent authorized by law, any and all warranties, whether express or implied, including, without limitation,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 07:29 PM
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1) Be an alpha 24/7 Yikes. Such advice, if it came from a "Red Piller" (and is not just your hyperbole speaking), is incorrect according to core RP principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 06:43 PM
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He's the alpha she needs, not the one she deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 04:47 PM
2

Stellar response.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 03:54 PM
2

There is a significant difference, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 06:32 PM
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Brilliant response.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:40 PM
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RP flair yep. TRP flair nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:37 PM
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Thanks for clarifying. To answer your initial question, I do not feel my relationship is less open. My wife knows about my views, and she shares them. I'm not talking necessarily about your views, I'm talking about the fact that you align with TRP which is a fairly widely reviled community. Let's be very clear here, I don't align with TRP, as I have said many times. I believe in RP principles, which are essentially identified terms for behavior long characterized under the framework of tradition…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:36 PM
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If this is true it's selfish as fuck. Pushing your kids to make a big decision that causes stress and puts them on the hook for 18+ years just so you can have grandkids. Fuck dat. You know there are people that actually want kids, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 04:29 PM
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What identity? I am not hiding anything. RP is just a label for certain behavior I did long before I even learned what it was called.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:52 PM
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Most people push their children to have kids because they want to be grandparents. Also: Giving birth is painful you know and raising children is slavery. A hearty lol for this. Thanks, HSW.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:22 PM
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I disagree that such an opinion is fringe or extremist. I, sadly, believe that is becoming a large minority opinion among the entitled youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 02:44 PM
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The first premise to your question is that all RPers "changed" or "became" Red. I never "changed"; I just am. I believe your first premise applies to TRPers, and not all RPers--the latter typically "changes" due to an event. As I have discussed before, and as /u/TheGreasyPole has termed it, "Moderate RP," has existed for thousands of years as the principle social structure between men and women, and continues to be, despite progressive protestations otherwise, the dominant social structure among…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 02:41 PM
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But what can we do other than try to reduce it? Try to lower the numbers, the odds, the percentages? The most important thing we can do is stop the milieu from changing--one of the most frightening thoughts I can possibly imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 02:27 PM
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I think it's time to break out another post...Greasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 02:06 AM
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Nobody owes anybody ANYTHING" I would love to agree with you in theory, but in practice the government owns us all, no matter how edgy, alpha, or otherwise powerful one thinks one is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 10:56 PM
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That's right. INTJ engineer geniuses need their ENTJ business-minded counterparts. Every Spock needs a Kirk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 09:11 PM
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You misunderstand my argument. I am addressing the first premise--that there are odds of being falsely convicted. There should no no odds of being false convicted, for any crime. It is a miscarriage of justice that it happens at all, with rape, murder, theft, etc. And we, as citizens, should not be thinking in "odds," but that it happens at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 07:57 PM
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Lol!!!! Loved this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 04:22 PM
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This is the correct answer. As a corollary, the modern obsession with dual income earners restricts such "innovators" to the middle class. You want to make it to the upper class? Both of you will work, but only one will work in the public sphere; the other will work at home, as Pem notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 04:00 PM
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Fiat, some of my STEM buddies have told me their companies are mandating employees take classes in public speaking and basic socialization. Have you encountered this? What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 02:24 PM
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But Atlas I know about dual polarization interferometry. Doesn't that make you tingle? Wait! Don't leave me for that lawyer/banker/military officer!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 02:22 PM
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Terrible as it is for a victim to see a rapist escape punishment, it is far, far worse for an innocent person to be convicted of a sex crime. "It is better, so the Fourth Amendment teaches, that the guilty sometimes go free than that citizens be subject to easy arrest." Henry v. United States, 361 U.S. 98, 104 (1959). "I view the requirement of proof beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal case as bottomed on a fundamental value determination of our society that it is far worse to convict an inn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:53 AM
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Responses to your post will be anecdotes ranging from the "too-cool" alpha: "I've banged [insert large number], and I'm fine" to the revenge-fantasy-beta: "I know this girl who banged 30 guys and now she's trying to lock down Chad and she can't pair bond, haha!" In other words, nothing anyone says will be of any use to the discussion because it will be a battle of fundamental differences in experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:25 AM
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It shows only 1,153 convictions per year for rape. So even if 20% of those convictions are false, which seems very high, that's still only ~300 per year in a country with around 30 million men. A single false conviction is the greatest travesty of our judicial system and Western civilization, and which, as a member of the bar, I do not take lightly. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 01:20 AM
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My experience is directly contradictory. Like with bravetheists, childfree people are enraged that "breeders" have children. I could care less about their existence or their "edgy" ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 09:44 PM
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I have good friends that are female, but they are typically friends of the marriage. As you get older, most of your friends become friends of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 09:12 PM
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50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:28 PM
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No problem. I was just curious. Not every day you meet a real scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:43 AM
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Off-topic, but I am genuinely very curious. What type of scientist are you, and what do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:24 AM
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gained 100 lbs This alone is divorce worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 09:12 PM
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This is my reasoning. I have never heard of the reasoning offered by Griddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 09:01 PM
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I have been and continue to be very active in providing my legal services pro bono, and I can tell you from years of experience that women typically receive the lion's share of pro bono services (and by extension, government benefits) because such services usually encompass the following categories, all of which are female-dominated issues: adoption, asylum, domestic violence (restraining orders, advice and counsel, divorce assistance), civil rights dealing with Title IX and equal access to educ…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:50 PM
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This OP is more of a statement and provides no questions for discussion. Is this a CMV? Thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:31 PM
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From Blackstonian's Formulation--one of the bedrocks of the Western criminal justice system.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 10:15 PM
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A single conviction under a false accusation, of any kind, is too great. "For the law holds, that it is better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 09:20 PM
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I like your comments, COGO. Keep it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 09:13 PM
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I love this. Then I get to eat their leftovers!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 09:05 PM
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Great comment. As a father, I say the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 05:42 AM
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All I know is that hapas are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 11:45 PM
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Look at that patriarch spreading his seed. Cute one, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 02:38 PM
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Are you a fake ENTJ? Trying to join our exclusive club any way you can I see ...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:22 PM
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Male, Red, ENTJ. Greasy, what do you think? Am I moderate or mainstream? If you are characterized as moderate, then I am probably the same as you. Despite your commie politics, we seem to agree on a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:04 PM
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Ewwww, a female extro!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:02 PM
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how would you advise a couple to handle this situation? they both work long hours and they're both tired a lot I found the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 06:02 PM
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The idea that a woman can rape a man is absolute BS. Now I know you're just trolling. I look forward to future discussions when you are back to normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 06:00 PM
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Dude, you have to stop responding to people in this thread. You're digging yourself an embarrassing grave. Everything you have said so far is intellectually dishonest, nonsensical, and sensationalist. I would just call it a day on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:30 PM
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I am actually really interested in the answer to this series of questions, so I hope Bro responds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:00 PM
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MONEY has the most power in america. Agree, with the corollary that wealth is typically built using a network, so I would rephrase: an extensive network has the most power in America. "The richest people in the world look for and build networks; everyone else looks for work."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:42 PM
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Thank you for addressing the incorrect understanding of duress in this post. Consent, as you all know, is usually defined continuous, enthusiastic agreement to partake in a sexual act(s) with a specific person at a specific point in time. I will then address consent, which is not defined as stated above, but which is instead defined as "a concurrence of wills."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 03:07 PM
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I have not. I'm not really into that genre, but let me see if I can find a YouTube video on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 01:48 AM
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I seriously meant to type seconds, but this is turning out to be a hilarious mistake. and you know we are married Hahahahahaha! My sides. Great post, cxj.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 01:39 AM
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Just speculating, but I would reason that it is easier to get and probably more satisfying. Plating takes time; me asking my wife for a BJ takes a few minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 01:11 AM
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The conflation between manipulation and influence irks me. A leader does not manipulate; he influences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:52 AM
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what do you bring to the bedroom? Decades of consistent experience. Now what? Lets ignore the one TRPer in chat that "didn't know where it was" as an "outlier" This made me lol, DStoo. Did he really concede this or was he being funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:36 AM
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In addition to the comments by /u/mrcs84usn and Meehan, on average, married guys want to hit the sheets four times a week, while men in dating relationships desire sex just twice a week, according to research in Archives of Sexual Behavior. Accordingly, I think there is strong evidence to contend that (1) your representation is either intellectually dishonest or (2) applies to a tiny outlier that is functionally irrelevant for our current discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:05 AM
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6 times a year is representative of a grossly mismanaged marriage. The couple should probably divorce or quickly get their act together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 11:29 PM
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Sandman, the key word in my quote above is TRP leadership. You are correct in that TRP students (the majority of its population) are intros.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 11:25 PM
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I am really surprised my comment is controversial at all. Government entities have been legally categorizing "single people, under the marital status definition, as never marrieds for quite some time. See, e.g., FAFSA ("Select I am single if you are single and have never been married.); U.S. Census Bureau. I don't have access to WestLaw because I am not at my desk right now, but if you find any case law or statutes, I would be happy to take a look.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 11:22 PM
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/u/Atlas_B_Shruggin and you are correct. Legal marital status is defined according to the Census Bureau as: Marital Status. The marital-status question is asked of everyone responding via mail, but only of people 15 and older responding through CATI or CAPI interviews. The response categories are ‘‘now married,’’ ‘‘widowed,’’ ‘‘divorced,’’ ‘‘separated,’’ or ‘‘never married.’’ Never married being the legal interpersonal relationship synonym for "single."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 08:12 PM
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As Clarence Darrow once famously said: "the only real lawyers are trial lawyers, and trial lawyers try cases to juries." I was a trial lawyer, yes; I am now in another field. To address your question, I will cite to a quote from an opinion that every trial lawyer should read: If the jury feels the law is unjust, we recognize the undisputed power of the jury to acquit, even if its verdict is contrary to the law as given by a judge, and contrary to the evidence...If the jury feels that the law und…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 07:52 PM
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And what a difference this makes. Regarding /u/TheGreekLady's point below, my wife is often busier than me with all the social clubs and philanthropies she's involved in; I am confident that she's not "bored."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:34 PM
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manipulation by itself is no more than changing someone's mind Manipulation, like Jedi mind tricks, only works on the weak minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:00 AM
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This is the most correct answer in this entire thread. Of course, it would be SerNemesis that understands how economics works. Good comment, SerN.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 08:33 AM
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Don't blow it, Shame. AB/BF is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:14 AM
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ENTP is an MBTI archetype often called, relevantly, "the Debater."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 04:56 AM
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For example when meeting new people I usually make insulting comments and see how they react. If they are too defensive or react in a hurt way they are too weak and pathetic for me. Fascinating. Do you do this for every type of encounter (social, professional, etc.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 12:38 AM
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I don't give a shit if someone identifies as a gay dragon so long as they don't stop me from identifying as a traditional cis-male These are my thoughts as well. Freedom of thought and freedom of expression are paramount.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 12:15 AM
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As Tempy notes well, aim for the AB/BF, not the AF, unless of course you want to be played.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 12:10 AM
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Yes, RPW is over represented with INTJs--the assassins. INTJs are amazing, and great combos with us ENTJs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 11:57 PM
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As often discussed on IRC, TRP leadership is vastly over represented by ENTPs. ENTPs like TGP, Archwinger, and most of the mods, Vanguards, and ECs are ENTPs (and you probably are too), which makes sense since ENTPs are lecturer/teacher/mentor types. Additionally, ENTPs are typically "paragraph writers" and explore an issue in depth. Typically, the ENTPs are TRP leadership, while the introverted men are the students. Next time you see a post on PPD, evaluate the user from this perspective, and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 10:26 PM
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Thank you. Although, be warned. The ENTP onslaught will begin soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 09:26 PM
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I have to agree with Dat here. Our ENTP brethren are itching to type up a multi-paragraph response, but OP has denied them this by not providing a point of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 09:20 PM
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You cannot say "I mowed the lawn, love me!". I don't know why, but this made me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 05:56 PM
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Undermine your sense of power or confidence? That is deliberate. It's not happening by accident, TRP openly advocates this. So that's not a straw man. It is a straw man. I am unaware of this red pill belief that you so confidently assert is openly advocated. Let me ask the ENTP scribe, /u/TheGreasyPole, for his more learned opinion, but I have never heard of this principle. And if it is so asserted, then I would disagree with its initial premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 05:14 PM
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A straw man if I ever saw one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 04:42 PM
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I was much too young to be shit (value) tested (and if I was, I don't remember it; maybe I just instinctively passed them). However, I am very aware of comfort tests, as are most married men or men in long-term relationships. And that's okay: comfort tests are objectively reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:13 AM
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Great reasoned comment. Who cares what the reason is? Anyone is free (and should be free) to make their own choices. And the consequences resulting therefrom are the cons when weighing the decision of selecting that choice. I would not date one either, but not because of some misplaced morality, but because, in my opinion, sex work displays low FTO--a trait in a woman that is a deal breaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 12:16 AM
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Ok, let me break this down like I was TGP: Lol!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 09:12 PM
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I made Griddy have a sigh. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 04:50 PM
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Arch, with your greatest mercy, sir, please spare my family from your beta uprising onslaught.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 04:19 PM
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That doesn't mean that we enjoy fucking fat people as much as super models just because in both instances our dicks get hard. Fatties make you hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 04:17 PM
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Good comment. Practical and reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 04:08 PM
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This is the correct answer. There is an obvious correlation/causation problem here. The most popular girl is also typically the hottest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 03:51 PM
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Just to confirm, one should not Squat, Bench Press, Deadlift, Overhead Press or Barbell Row, even while using proper form as described by three-time Mr. Universe Reg Park, because your brother said it is a recipe for "back injury"? Does your brother endorse any of the traditional power lifts or do all, when executed correctly, nevertheless cause back injury? Thanks in advance for your reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 10:25 PM
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ive often said that RP treats "evidence" in a legal rather than scientific sense Very interesting observation, Atlas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 06:05 PM
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That's...exactly what ARS and I said. I'm confused by your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 06:04 PM
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as long as it works why wouldn't you take the advice? A critical question indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 03:17 PM
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Completely true. Those that are looking for an "edge" typically fall flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 03:13 PM
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A dilemma: switch the solid 6 (which on the Fiat-Drok scale is a gorgeous woman or on the BTL-SerN scale is an above-average woman) to a 3 or a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 05:18 AM
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You should make the question more of a dilemma, otherwise you will get all the same answers, as the answer is fairly obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 05:15 AM
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ARS, if you ain't got a peer-reviewed study, we ain't talking. And to hell with your charity principles, spit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 11:01 PM
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who grew up in a different time to you This is the key distinguishing feature. I am curious how this will play out among the younger generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 09:08 PM
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Oh! Hahahaha!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 09:00 PM
1

Is that some weird UK English? Tenants are occupiers of a property rented from a landlord. Tenets are principles or beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 07:28 PM
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Even the most player like guy I know, who said that he wants to abuse his med student status all the time and fuck around like crazy told me yesterday that he actually wants a relationship. I could tell you dozens of stories of my bachelor friends who "partied hard" in their twenties and thirties and enjoyed the forbidden fruit as a result of the deregulation of the sexual marketplace. They, like many of the younger guys I see here and on TRP, used to regale me with their stories of promiscuity.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 05:17 PM
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Human beings are disposable, not because we want them to be, but because they simply are. The normative idea and idealism that every human being is special and valuable has its place in the minds of adolescent dreamers and academics, but not in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 03:20 PM
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Are we talking "feminism" or feminism, here? The former being the type where young women proclaim they are feminists without understanding the term or adhering to any of its tenets.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 05:02 AM
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Ding ding ding! To be even more specific, Roman law--civil Western law--derives from the jurisprudence of the 12 Tables to Justininan's Corpus Juris Civilis. On the their hand, Anglo law--common Western law--derives from the jurisprudence of Henry II and the ideas of stare decisis and precedent. Both types of Western law, as Atlas points out, harken back to the Western tradition of patriarchy, not the mascularchy characteristic of Islamic shitholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 12:33 AM
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proto-agriculture Before protopill, there was prototomato.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 12:22 AM
2

Cool! See you in there, Cursed!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 11:37 PM
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Lol!! Well I don't know, would you like me to come back? Of course. Us extros need to stick together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 11:20 PM
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Good. I've been enjoying this actual winter weather we are getting here. Are you ever coming back to chat with me on IRC? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 10:12 PM
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How are you doing by the way, Cursed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 10:08 PM
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I'll take significant medical studies saying that "sperm count diminishes steadily with age -- and quality goes down, as well" over your anecdotal outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 09:46 PM
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I'm glad I have your approval DG_.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 09:37 PM
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"men would rather have a boring 9 than a 7 with a great personality." I have never heard this. On the contrary, I've heard the reverse. This of course jives with Protopill's Iron Rule #2: "7/8, you're great; 9/10, you're dead."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 09:28 PM
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Easily. TRP pushes Dark Triad. I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 09:25 PM
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But if you're extroverted naturally..... For fucks sake go with cocky/funny expansive social game, it's your strength, and it's still the best strategy. By miles if single. By a little if married. Use your extroversion, don't go the RP stoic introversion route. Extroversion IS better. This is the key thesis. Thank you for stating it so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 09:23 PM
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However, wub is an author, his passion must have oozed in the date with the Indian surgeon-yet he was rejected? How does this work? I'm sure it did. He seems very passionate about his writings. Why was he rejected? Who knows. Does it look like he cares? He'll go back to being passionate about his interests and another woman will come along.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 05:53 PM
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The point I'm making is that TRP seems to focus too much on being this sort of austere, serious man rather than being a happy, eminent man... Addressing this narrow point, if anyone, Red Pill or Blue Pill, contends that being "austere," "stoic," or "serious" gets the ladies, such a person surely is being hyperbolic or purposefully dense. It is uncontroversial that women love the happy, outgoing, smiling, humourous extroversion in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 05:43 PM
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Passion, spirit, moxie. Women are addicted to these traits in a man. /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin mentioned elsewhere about competitive eaters having groupies, which exemplifies this principle. Women don't have to objectively care about a man's writing; they like that he is passionate about his writing. Women don't have to objectively care about a man's music talents (they may even not like his music!); they like that he is passionate about his talent. A piece of advice: if you want to attract women, be …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 05:35 PM
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What if you find out that you can't have children? You probably should have followed Protopill's Iron Rule: marry young.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:27 PM
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There is no reason to be married unless you plan on having or have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 03:26 PM
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I was thinking the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 03:12 PM
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The side-bar is always talking about needing to take up some awesome hobbies like skydiving or becoming a rock star. This type of advice--being hyper "exciting" 24/7--is detrimental to long-term relationships. The older people here will understand--life is monotonous at times. Enjoy it. You don't always have to be scuba diving at the Great Barrier Reef or scaling Machu Pichu. Yes, hypergamy cares about you being "interesting," but each woman is interested in different things in a man. What they …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 02:53 PM
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Well except /u/ProtoPill. He's rare and udnerstands that the best way to get a young virgin wife is to be a young non-sluttish man. And unlike most TRPers he understands that you can still be athletic and a "bro" and not a STD ridden "Chad." This is true. Marry young USDA prime, my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 02:45 PM
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Illimitable Man's rationale for the quote you cite above is: A dude that's been in an LTR with one chick for 5 years knows more about women than a guy who's been hooking up with chicks and briefly plating for 5 years. The latter has mastered seduction, the prior actually knows more about the nature of what he's dealing with beyond the initial bedding stage because he's around for the bad and not just the good. Illimitable Man, unlike the majority of TRP's subscribers is, as /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 02:34 PM
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This is absolutely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 02:27 PM
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35+ means she has likely missed the boat on natural conception and will have to rely on IUI or total artificial insemination. I've seen this phenomenon time and time again at my age. Let this be a lesson to women out there: if you want kids, either have them young or freeze your eggs. Otherwise, you'll end up like my buddy with his 37-year-old wife. They've been trying for two years with no luck. And, worse yet, even if they had kids now, they are decades behind. What a rough position to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 01:50 AM
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the counselor explained that the slowdown in female desire is normal This "explanation" is always just a disingenuous excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 09:41 PM
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Wouldnt surprise me, given the current avg BMI of hambeasts in my country. I belly laughed reading this. Hahaha!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 08:44 PM
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Most honest answer and consistent with my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 08:37 PM
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One of the best quotes from one of the best articles on Rational Male. When will men learn to stop marrying hypersexualized, extro whores?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 04:49 PM
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Violent people, whether they have a vagina or a penis need to face the consequences of their actions and sometimes that means criminal charges and jail time. I'm in total agreement. You misunderstand my very narrow point. I understand there are women like you that may not be "like" that, but highly dominant, aggressive, extroverted women are more likely than less dominant, submissive, introverted women to be violent. I trust that you agree with this narrow, uncontroversial point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 04:14 PM
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I agree with all of the above except calling the police. Move on, heal, and find someone who can communicate respectfully and without violence. Men need to stop going after BPD, highly dominant, extroverted women if they cannot handle that personality type.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 03:10 PM
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Guitars, you and /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin are experiencing the same emotion--disgust--that children are very good at identifying and expressing. Anyone that has children knows that children are Grade A unfiltered disgust detectors (they have yet to be tempered by thr educational complex). I showed that picture to both of my kids, and I laughed when I saw their faces cringe. Also, slightly off topic, but children are also excellent detectors of alphas and omegas. They can instantly spot "coolness" and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 02:47 PM
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I am aware of the science. I was speaking colloquially.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 01:04 AM
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I'm going to argue with him, because independent of whether his position is wrong, he is wrong for being Archwinger. Exactly. The "because of" is dispositive here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 05:50 PM
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But you can be wrong because you're angry. Symantics and attention to detail are going to be important in your further discussions related to this post. For that reason, I felt compelled to inform you that you cannot be wrong because you're angry; you can be wrong and angry, but not because of. "Because of" is a term of art denoting causation. The validity of an argument is not changed because of the underlying emotion. Otherwise, according to your premise, there is an instance where I could say…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 05:30 PM
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I have the same question. I read the article, and it seems like a good conclusion: don't try to hide your flaws because your attempts to hide them only expose your insecurity regarding that flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 05:08 PM
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Guitars, just want to say I like your posts. You have interesting perspectives, approach each issue with clarity and curiosity, and all of your posts provoke very little snark and shitposting. This thread has actually been interesting to read, and everyone has been quite civil. Thanks again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 03:39 PM
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From the MBTI definition: "Extraversion refers to the act or state of being energized by the world outside the self. Extraverts enjoy socializing and tend to be more enthusiastic, assertive, talkative, and animated. They enjoy time spent with more people and find it less rewarding to spend time alone." Introversion, on the contrary, is the state of being predominately concerned with one’s inner world. Introverts prefer self-reflection to social interactions. They also prefer to observe before pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 09:19 PM
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I tend to agree with /u/Reginleifer: assuming I would be changed to be homosexual, how am I supposed to find a find a more fulfilling relationship than the one I am currently in or in the ones I could be in? It's simply a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 07:50 PM
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if you could choose your sexual orientation, would you choose to be a homosexual? No. So if you're a Red Piller, do you think that you would have a more fulfilling relationship if you were a homosexual? Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 07:15 PM
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I love croquet too. We used to get wasted and try to smack those balls through the wickets. Impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 05:25 PM
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To red pillers: Does this apply to you, too? Do you think it comes with a red pill lifestyle? Thank you for this interesting post. No, it does not apply to me nor do I believe it comes with a Red Pill lifestyle. I believe that this discrepancy comes from the intro/extro dynamic, and is particularly exaggerated when introverts attempt to mimic natural extroverted behavior. Such mimicry is often accompanied by "try-hard" behaviors and focusing exclusively on "effort" instead of "fun." Of course, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 04:59 PM
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This is not the law. The law provides, automatically, for a presumption of parental custody to the unmarried mother upon birth. See, e.g., Cal. Fam. Code s. 7610. An unmarried father does not, I repeat, does not have parental custody of his child upon birth. Only a married father does. See, e.g., Cal. Fam. Code s. 7611. The issue of paternity is critical to the determination of child support and custody/visitation, and if the mother does not seek child support, it is on you, the father, to hire …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 04:17 AM
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This is correct. All crimes are not created equal. Aggravating and mitigating factors are used to determine the length of sentence. See, e.g., Cal. Penal Code s. 261 (providing for a 3, 5, or 8 year prison term for rape convictions based upon mitigating or aggravating factors, with an additional 5 years for great bodily injury).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 10:19 PM
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Great comment. As long as people stop conflating "regret sex" with the crime of rape, I don't care how else they choose to hamster away their poor choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 10:13 PM
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I'd say that the man lacked the appropriate mental state for the crime. He didn't intend to rape her. But the modern system is that if he intended to perform the sexual act, that counts as intent to rape. He intentionally performed an act on a woman that the woman didn't consent to. You have perfectly described the problem I have with rape being a general (rather than specific) intent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 10:06 PM
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but having come from an area with a lot of young men born into wealth, they all wind up pairing off with similarly wealthy/upper class sorority sisters. This is true and consistent with my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 10:02 PM
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I feel bad for those that can't enjoy bareback because of their low FTO lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:47 PM
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Male. Would you date this person? Not only would I, but I did. Eventually, married her. Would it bother you if they couldn’t afford to do things that you enjoy doing without you subsidising them? Not in the slightest. Current income means nothing to me; class does. Would you consider a LTR / marriage with this person? I married her, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:20 PM
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That reading comprehension. Have you thought about law school?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:15 PM
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She ended up giving herself a throat full of fiberglass insulation Archwinger, tell me you waited at least a week to get a BJ after that. Otherwise, your dick must have been on fire. Insulation is fucking itchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:01 PM
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This is the only acceptable answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:43 PM
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I also don't see the point in sex with condoms, might as well not even bother. Neither do I. Bareback is the only way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:41 PM
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[T]he idea of going to Coachella vs. sitting around with my husband eating candy...can't even compare. Indoors ftw I've said it once, and I'll say it again: only marry intro women. Low FTO extro women are for fucking only.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:07 PM
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Teeay, I'm confused as well. OP essentially says sexual market value is used in the ... sexual market place, and relationship market value is used in the ... relationship market place. Am I missing a deeper analysis?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 03:42 PM
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It's certainly not part of the vows people declare on their wedding day. "I, _, take you, _, to be my lawfully wedded(husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part." Apparently Huffington Post writers think this term refers to actually holding him/her. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 03:20 PM
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A little too conservative of a figure. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the top 20% for household income begins at $112,262.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 02:59 PM
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If you make six figures and are in relative shape, you are statistically within the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 12:02 AM
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Typically, tyrannies are characterized by dictators, so yes. The dictator's religion is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 11:18 PM
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Thank you. I have edited my response for clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 10:40 PM
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People who believe NO-WALT deny the existence of the CC in it's entirety, believe that women genuinely value nice, sweet, caring guys who put women before themselves, and that women would never in a million years be attracted to a guy who is self-confident, cocky, and only cares about himself. Hahahahahahaha! Thanks for that, gavinok.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 10:24 PM
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History has shown that the vast majority of governments and social attitudes follow the Tytler cycle. As we are currently in the apathy or dependence phase of the cycle, it is likely that your prediction will not come to fruition before the demagoguery of tyranny takes over. In all actuality, judging by the cycles of history, we are closer to the reestablishment of a fully "oppressive" patriarchial system than we are your prediction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 10:04 PM
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Personal experience is not solipsism. Solipsism is simply a philosophical idea that only the self exists or can be proven to exist. Because your own mind is personal and ineffable, only you know your thoughts, meaning that all outside experiences can only be experienced by inference. As an example of the difference: Personal experience: "In my personal experience, I have found ..." Solipsism: "I am real. You are not." or "I am the center of the universe."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 07:35 PM
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Upvoted. "One's interpretation of another speaker’s words should minimize the ascription of false beliefs to that speaker." The Oxford Companion to Philosophy, on the principle of charity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 06:57 PM
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You probably won't hear about them. Nearly all cases settle before trial. If there is significant evidence that the accusation is false, with this type of defamation being per se, I believe most actions would be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 05:41 PM
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I found this article a great read. If true, these statistics, and the conclusions that can be drawn therefrom, are nothing less than shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 02:39 AM
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Absolutely understand, and great points. I agree that nature and nurture are complementary. Where I start shaking my head is whe people tell me that men and women are the same, and that women can do whatever men can do. It's just verifiably wrong. Yes, there are women that are stronger than some men. Yes, there are female Olympians that are better at certain sports that some men. But, on balance, men are stronger and faster than women. How this has even become a debate in today's backward cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 02:28 AM
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admit that men and women are different due to biology This is actually a very good first premise. I would be interested in seeing where the discussion turns from agreement on this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 12:26 AM
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Completely agree. And the law provides a remedy: those men or women, if falsely accused, should file defamation actions against their accusers. I would fully support such actions. Sometimes I think people get too excited about the hysteria and conflate the "societal burden of proof" with the legal one, making for a dangerous misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 12:22 AM
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You're welcome, Xemnas. Understandable. A lot of people on the Internet, especially on Reddit and on TRP/MRA sites, proliferate erroneous facts regarding the state of the law. Feel free to come discuss further in the IRC.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 12:16 AM
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Agree, but I was not addressing that point. I was simply addressing the often erroneous statement I see on TRP and PPD that the burden of proof has shifted in rape cases, when it certainly has not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 12:07 AM
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punches shoulder and giggles "you jerrrrkkk"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:07 PM
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Title XI is a rarely-used provision that provides that "any proceeding for criminal contempt arising under title II, III, IV, V, VI, or VII of this Act, the accused, upon demand therefor, shall be entitled to a trial by jury." Essentially, it provides for a right to trial by jury in criminal contempt proceedings arising under the enumerated titles. It also provides for a double jeopardy provision. Titles II, III, IV, V, VI, and VII all relate to desegregation, the Civil Rights Commission, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:03 PM
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Title IX is a federal civil rights provision prohibiting sex discrimination in educational institutions that receive federal financial assistance. It is not a criminal statute. Accordingly, it cannot contradict criminal law because it is not criminal law.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 07:37 PM
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You are bound to succeed if he's slept with you, since the burden of proof is currently on men to show innocence of rape charges. Xemnas, come on man, that's just not true. Maybe in the backward college arena, but in the criminal area, the burden of proof remains with the government to prove all charges, including rape, beyond a reasonable doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 07:28 PM
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Did you mean to reply to me or to Beyond?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:47 PM
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Marriage only kills your sex life if the person you're married to is unattractive. As always, my friends, be attractive; don't be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 12:59 AM
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I thought there were a bunch of online surveys that pretry much showed that shoulder to hip ratio + lean muscle was king? There are dozens of surveys and studies that show that women love ottermode. ARS is just mad they don't like his strong fat. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:50 PM
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over here Over where? I've always been interested where you are from, Ben. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 11:49 PM
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Here you go, Atlas.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 10:02 PM
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Civilization is rule of high betas... Yes, yes, acknowledge my authority!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 03:19 PM
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The current hook-up culture and the socioeconomic consequences arising therefrom are largely due to the poisonous aspects of our entitlement culture, low FTO thinking, and encouragement of instant gratification. All of these things are the symptoms of the "decrease in quality" of men and women, which you discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 11:33 PM
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Thanks, Leane.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 10:32 PM
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I love my career (government relations/advocacy) but I'd quit on the spot if my husband asked me to. You're going to have a great marriage, sunhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 08:03 PM
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That blouse fully exposes her bra and is completely sheer. That might be acceptable in some secretarial or middle management job, but dressing up like that, rather than like this, will get you no where in the professional world. Such an outfit would be completely inappropriate for a woman in my field.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 08:01 PM
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This is the only correct answer. Understanding the consequences of your choices is one of the hallmarks of wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:54 PM
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how many [sexual] relationships have you been in, i.e. what's your sample size? would you take seriously a study with a similar sample size? Taibow, you know me. :) I have only been with my wife, who is an INTJ. As for other couples I know, the women are typically more introverted than the men, and their relationships appear strong and have lasted for some time. My experience is particularly marred by highly extroverted female lawyers, who are among the most crass, least charming, least affectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:56 PM
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Thanks, Taibow, but, as I said above, my statement does not concern emotionally unstable women on the DSM-V Axis I scale. Your citation concerns women that suffer from clinical major depression. I know it's hard to discuss normal people on Reddit because everywhere we turn we see forever alone STEM nerds, asexuals, polys, prostitutes, and a slew of other "sexually deviant" critters, but my statement concerns just the difference between normal well-adjusted extroverted women and normal, well-adju…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 05:25 PM
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So you're saying the losers in they SMP have their expectations set too high? Say it ain't so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 04:37 PM
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Thanks, Taibow, for the citation. However, I am going to trust my life experience, which has shown me that introverted women are typically more suitable, all things being equal, for long-term relationships than extroverted ones. Your reference to the emotional stability of the woman is a non sequitur--my statement assumes the woman is emotionally stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 04:32 PM
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Hopefully they will make a place like that for the scores of lonely incels, omegas, and other failures in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 04:27 PM
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Deadbedrooms across the country would disappear as men and women spiked their spouse's food with this panacea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:54 PM
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The most important thing is to remove actually unattractive traits as these can easily kill any plusses you have from other attractive traits. 100% agree. And the test to determine if you have any attractive traits is to look out for the C-word--creep. That word is used by women to convey a range of negative traits, like desperation, neediness, anxiousness, and social awkwardness. If you hear the A-word ("asshole") or the J-word ("jerk"), though, you're golden, and you can focus on making yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:48 PM
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I have lived a long life compared to a lot of the people on this board, and I have never met a truly asexual man. This is why, of course, my advice was not tailored to the 1 in a million possibility, but to what she can expect on average. If she is able to snag such a "unicorn," though, more power to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:35 PM
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Understandable. You aren't a man. Any man even remotely worth his salt is going to expect sex in a marriage--and not "I have to fuck him starfish once a month duty sex," but passionate, enthusiastic regular sex. From reading your comments above, you sound dejected, and unless you are more masterful at manipulation than Machiavelli, and you can keep the long con going for 50+ years, it's probably easier to just get your issues sorted out first. That way, you can have a happy, successful, sex-fill…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:50 AM
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I will want to "fuck" my husband because he loves me, but not because of any hormonal desire or "horny switch" in my brain that suddenly makes me all hot and heavy. Holy five alarm fires batman! Cxj--a swell guy indeed--is being too light on you. /u/EmpressofMars, DO NOT, under any circumstances, get married until you get this under control. Otherwise, your marriage will be the frozen depths of the Ninth Level of Dante's Inferno.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 06:43 AM
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Lol! That was hilarious. She looked like she was thinking about gobbling his cock right then and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 08:13 PM
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I'm pretty introverted The best wives are I. All these dudes marrying extro hussies are getting what's coming to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 03:31 PM
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I really liked reading this article. Thank you for bringing it to my attention, Xemnas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:48 AM
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I have read his writings, and I agree with some of what he says, but I wouldn't say I'm a "fan."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 11:16 PM
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Feminism, for all of its Rosie the Riveter puffing, is essentially about women being victims in need of rescuing. Great point. As a corollary, feminism encourages low FTO thinking and instant gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:38 PM
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Let's say your married, or in theory if you were married or in an LTR if you are not currently. If your partner told you that they think you are an amazing partner, but if they would have met you in college they wouldn't have hooked up or had a ONS with you, how would you feel? Would this bother you at all? It means you're the BB. Sorry, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:32 PM
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Because feminism, as a neo-Marxist ideology, is antithetical to both my belief system and contains principles that I believe are poisonous to a successful life. If you were to ask if I were to raise my daughters "equalist," I would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:31 PM
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will you be raising your daughter's feminist? If I had daughters, I would not raise them as feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:08 PM
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I'm tired of yall telling me my life is easy when it's not. Pisses me off. What are the problems in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:31 PM
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Sunhappy nails it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:25 PM
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Well, look, our options are (a) some people are unjustly kicked out of school or (b) some people have to choose between leaving school and spending all of Psych 101 with the person who committed a violent crime against them. This exact hypothetical came up during the formation of our Union and was thoroughly and rightly denounced. This denouncement is called Blackstone's Formulation and takes the following form: "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer." This fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:36 PM
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For example, if a man were to say, "I don't want to marry or seriously date a promiscuous woman. Something in me just doesn't trust that", and the response were "Okay. Great! Valid standard!" You nailed it, Archwinger. I could care less about people's preferences. Select for what you desire and leave your personal judgments aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:17 PM
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What is rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:06 PM
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I know you, dragoness, you IRC riding sloot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:20 PM
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Despite /u/NalkaNalka's imprecise wording, he/she is correct. Pedantic "education" would have little, if any effect on rape--the criminal cause of action.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:11 PM
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/u/gavinok, hopefully you can edit the above to clarify a few points for our readers. A number of the comments here are misunderstanding the text of the bill. The SCA provides for a number of due process provisions that a citizen is entitled to during criminal proceedings. First, for example, the SCA does not preclude "kampus kangaroo kourts," it merely requires, as a prerequisite, that all complaints be filed with law enforcement and not university security. Second, it further provides that, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 02:42 PM
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Sounds like they "have" to use birth control then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 02:17 PM
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-fucking birth control and the side effects associated with it. This is why you don't use birth control. Marry young, fuck bareback, have some kids, and get a vesectomy. Enjoy life my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:49 AM
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you are wrong to be thrilled. Sorry. No need to apologize. You are entitled to your opinion. I simply disagree with that opinion. Your head is in the right place but for a woman who has been working her whole life ... Woah, woah, let's slow this down. Nowhere did TGP mention a woman that worked her whole life. In my mind, I was imagining a marriage between a young 20s couple, where the wife worked a few years before having kids. Surely, you would agree with me that a woman that has worked a few …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 11:44 PM
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What do you do ? I would be thrilled! DINK/working wife lifestyles are for low FTO people who fail to understand the value of a SAHM in building a legacy. Plus, her decision to stay home showcases her trust and loyalty in me, her prioritization of our home and our children, and her femininity. Edit: In other words, I respectfully disagree with /u/innergametrumpsall here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:27 PM
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If that's it, why marry her? Children are the only reason you should ever consider getting married. Why is this so difficult for people to grasp?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 05:47 PM
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Go go minarchism! Individual rights are paramount to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 05:38 PM
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I don't remember it saying blood splatter red lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 04:18 AM
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I see you changed your flair, Naz. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 12:19 AM
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It is original, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 12:17 AM
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If I can't count on my future wife to be there by my side and support me through my darkest hour, what's the point of even getting married? There are no guarantees in life, my friend, there are only calculated risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 06:49 AM
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So then TRP must be glasnost and perestroika.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 09:45 PM
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If that average guy is average, incels all over the world should be committing suicide. They, statistically, have no chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 12:08 AM
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Do you think people exist that do not strongly identify with masculinity or feminity, not necessarily transgender/queer, just people who prioritized other ideas and things/concepts to identify with, and had other things prioritized by their parents? Of course. Humans are beyond diverse in their ideas. People that subscribe to absolutism, to either extreme, have not experienced enough of life yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:15 PM
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Poor people always do worse. Low FTO strikes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:10 PM
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Oh whoops! Sorry TGH, I just read Greasy and assumed. Haha! Edited.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 01:45 PM
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Your husband, I and /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin have discussed this before. 20-year-old men (read: boys) have neoteny. I still have pictures of myself at college fraternity parties, and I look like a baby. Edit: /u/cats_or_get_out makes a great point regarding military greenhorns. They all look like babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 01:37 PM
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Today I learned, at the tender age of 35, you are a silver fox.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 05:32 AM
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no swarthy caucasians, sandy germanic is preferable, must have "blood in the face" "Blood in face" German-descent here. no one religious, at all, including leftist religion and kantian morality religion. or "atheist", must be a fellow skeptical materialist Meh. must be EITHER a libertarian or a right wing authoritarian, no exceptions Minarchist. Check. never had a desk job, doesn't own khakis or a suit, unless its for going to court Excellent. I only wear a suit when going to court. Loophole ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 07:31 PM
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You really do understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 06:46 PM
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Any attractive woman today is getting far more attention than all but a few women have received historically, so it's no surprise their behaviors are different than what we've seen before. Absolutely. Great comment, disposable_pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 06:42 PM
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Good for you, autoNFA!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 04:15 PM
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Changing the law from General intent to specific intent changes the definition of the crime, since those two elements mean different things. Of course, I never said otherwise. So you're proposing a fundamental change in the very definition of the crime. If you view changing one element a "fundamental change," then yes I am so proposing. This isn't a matter of convicting innocent people. I disagree. With the current cultural climate being what it is, I truly believe that our finders of fact may b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 03:30 PM
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Please see my comment to ARS. Also, with nearly 90% of people that lose weight gaining it back over 5 years, you wonder if weight troubles are truly reversible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 03:13 PM
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With between 60-80% of women being overweight or obese, those that are of normal weight are already in the top 20-40% percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:48 PM
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I side with the ethical principle that it is better to vindicate a single innocent defendant than convict a hundred guilty defendants. In that way, I would put the defendant's rights, guaranteed under the Constitution, above that of the public. It's maybe not a great system, but I don't see another way Accordingly, I agree it is not a great system, but I believe there is another way. If rape went to specific intent, you better believe there'd be a ton of defenses based on that which were bullshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 02:40 PM
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No fatties Is there any preference more important?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:54 PM
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Procedural due process is not limited to state criminal action. Procedural due process, as required by the Constitution, states that when the state acts in such a way that denies a citizen of a life, liberty, or property interest, the person must first be given notice and the opportunity to be heard. In the cases cited above, the colleges are public colleges operated by the state. Therefore, they are subject to the principles of procedural due process.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:44 PM
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I am fully aware. I simply disagree with those policy reasons. It is my belief that the accused's rights, even the "ambiguously-intended accused", must be particularly safeguarded in rape cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 01:41 PM
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Yes means yes off the books. Just to be clear, Yes Means Yes did not modify any criminal provisions for rape. It is a standard of "affirmative consent" on college campuses for sexual misconduct. And it will likely be destroyed very soon anyway. In the wise words of a law professor: [No] matter what the Department of Education or Department of Justice suggest, regardless of what a state’s statute provides, or what the University decides, the Constitution trumps it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 08:41 PM
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Then we should get rid of the entire criminal justice system, the principle of stare decises and the common law. Statutes of limitation have existed since the birth of civilization, and have at least three powerful rationales for continuing to exist: 1) A plaintiff/prosecutor with a valid cause of action should pursue it with reasonable diligence. 2) Most crucially, a defendant might have lost evidence to disprove a stale claim. 3) A long-dormant claim has "more cruelty than justice"; in other w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 08:21 PM
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If you held supreme power over the law of your respective country, what would you deem the definition of rape? Where would you draw the lines? I would change very little from the current statutory definition of rape. I would criminalize rape according to the elements as stated in California Penal Code section 261, with the additional requirement that rape be a specific intent crime, not a general intent crime, as it currently is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 08:06 PM
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Agree. At 16, I was playing football and teasing girls, not opining on gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:16 PM
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Lol! It's true. You caught me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:11 PM
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I think it depends on how dumb she is and how good her success quota is. In other words, she has low future time orientation--one of nature's greatest predictors of poverty, depression, and failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:10 PM
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What a nice thing to say, Atlas. I knew you wuved me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:01 PM
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Blue Pill knowledge says if a woman slights you that means she likes you, right? Aw, Susan, I'm touched.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:58 PM
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Rank the following people in order of awesomeness: 1) Witzie 2) SerNemesis 3) Lonny 4) Arch 5) Chasing 6) Sunnie 7) Me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:52 PM
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Lol! Have you tried oxalic acid? I used it once to clean the grill of my car after I ran over some alfalfa hitting on my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:49 PM
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Be what you are, not what other people accept you to be. Just. Be. Yourself. Teehee.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:46 PM
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Yes, I keep the pitchfork sharp and shiny. It takes a lot of polishing to keep a good pitchfork well maintained. Ah, but do you keep your guillotine sharp and shiny? You never know when the capitalists might come a knockin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:33 PM
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(And for short women, they are great for making dancing easier.) Heels raise her ass to the perfect grinding height. I love heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:33 AM
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And almost to a club.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:22 PM
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What gets described in the red pill as 'beta' is really just omega behavior of guys that need to learn social skills and stop oozing desperation. /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin has made this point before, and I agree. Beta is not bad; omega is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:51 PM
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I worry for the people in his life though. He seems a mess. I feel for the guy, too. Hopefully, he can find what he's looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:57 PM
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I never considered that a possibility. Good to know. He just seems fascinated with the idea of looks, and /u/belletaco, who I almost never agree with, was being rather calm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:50 PM
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Do you top from the bottom?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 04:05 PM
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Every father should remember that his son will follow his example, not his advice. See thing is, I never did listen to Dad QED. It's living with Dad and his values that are confusing the shit out of me Which is why you need to get out on your own. As I said before, if you get a job and a place to rent, I will help you make a budget on Excel. It will take less than an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 12:46 AM
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Every father should remember that his son will follow his example, not his advice. Knowing what I know about your bluepill past, I can safely conclude that you followed your father's bluepill example, whose equivocating words, like those you excerpt above, have seemed to do little in helping you become a "Xasonova."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 12:42 AM
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I've heard so many good things about rice buckets. I'll check that out too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:53 PM
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Can't say if it'd help with golf, but yoga definitely helps with climbing -- specifically, getting you that extra 4-6 inches of reach with your legs. That makes a lot of sense. Do you have any experience with the traditional vs. hot yoga and do you find a noticeable difference? Do you top rope or lead climb at all? No belaying at all. I'm just into bouldering right now. I'm currently a novice, but I have been able to move up the V scale quickly. Although, the moment I got to harder V2's and V3's…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:42 PM
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I'm not particularly fit although I'm probably fitter than I have been since my early twenties. I've noticed this as well. Fitness for me, and for a lot of guys, seems to peak in high school, trough in your 20s (probably due to so many life changes) and then rise again in your early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:08 PM
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Thanks, Guitars. Let me look into judo. Do you develop grip strength because the art contains a lot of throws?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 10:27 PM
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Please state your fitness level and how often you workout/ exercise on a weekly basis, if at all. I am physically fit, but no GLO. I am your typical athletic ectomorph: played safety in high school, distance runner, avid skier, tennis player, and golfer. More eclectically, I also like to surf, boulder, and hike/ hunt. I lift at least 3 times a week, and, in addition, I participate in one of the above at least once a week. Are you satisfied with your current body and fitness level? I am very happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 10:11 PM
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I know you are using all your willpower to hold back typing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 07:06 PM
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This was the greatest exchange on PPD. Thank you for riling him up, belletaco.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:53 PM
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Noobs with a head full of reading, but no experience AT ALL spamming everyone with how they've got it all figured out, complete with links! This is because, as we've discussed before, a large majority of TRP subscribers are ENTP's with a penchant for prodigious paragraphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 06:41 PM
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It's all about the TGP-Witzie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 03:15 PM
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Being outgoing instead of introverted Extro4Lyfe
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 07:35 PM
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Good point. I never realized I was a victim too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 05:15 AM
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Yes, plus with recent advancements in tranny technology, the transition would be nearly seemless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:17 AM
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All three clearly qualify for execution. USDA Prime or not. /u/SirNemesis knows what has to be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 11:22 PM
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Therefore, she knows you can't run and will therefore be able to nag you incessantly about going down on her while you use a vibrator in her butt while she's tied down to the bed with a constant stream of candle wax falling on her nipples with a ball gag so no one can hear her scream. Have you ever considered writing literotica?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:42 PM
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Dat USDA prime. This man appreciates the finer things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:41 PM
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I see that never get married shit as people that lose the overall game of life. Their genes die. You lose. They are free to make their own choices. Though, their irrational absolutism is just as adolescent as childfree bravetheists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 05:33 PM
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Both. I am fully aware that the more learned members of TRP are aware of and preach what I said above. However, as /u/TheGreasyPole notes our "main store front" is the majority of the user base who do not adhere to /u/redpillschool's exposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 05:06 PM
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Damn it. Just don't alert /u/Nazrath2112, he gets triggered easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 03:39 PM
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I have made my main criticism of TRP very apparent: beta is not necessarily bad, and its corollary, alpha is not necessarily good. I subscribe to the functional leadership, functional support model of the true alpha--the balanced patriarch. TRP subscribers frequently conflate higher beta with alpha, when, in reality, the latter is comprised of thieves, warlords, murderers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 03:16 PM
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I tried checking with her this morning, but she was too busy choking on my dick. I'll ask her tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 03:09 PM
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A majority of Redditors are young, impressionable bravetheists with little identity other than their college textbooks and self-inflated egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 01:48 PM
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Can confirm. Susan is in fact an alien.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 01:11 PM
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This. If verbal consent were a requirement, I would have raped my wife hundreds of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:54 PM
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I know guys just like this, typical AFs. The problem is, and I've made this criticism of mine regarding TRP very apparent, that turning on 100% alpha may get you the lay, but you'll never, by definition, be balanced. True dual functionality is only achieved through the careful balancing of both alpha and beta traits, the hallmark of the AB/BF.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 12:02 AM
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This is the archetype of the AB/BF--the patriarch.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:05 PM
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In the end, you can't be a manager, a father and a husband at the same time and you need help from your wife. Agreed, which is precisely why AB (or BF, depending on your nomenclature) are often married/ltred.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:33 PM
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When there's blood in the streets...now's the time to buy!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:56 PM
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Why not just marry early and fuck your wife? Excellent USDA Prime; where's /u/SirNemesis?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 07:45 PM
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But Greasy, if you do this, it means you...have feelings. That cannot be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:43 PM
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But, after the wedding, if she doesn't succeed in breaking him of his cockiness, she'll get tired of him and rape him in the divorce courts. However, even if she does succeed in breaking him of his cockiness, and turning him into her submissive beta, she'll get bored with him, and rape him in the divorce courts. Essentially, lose-lose whatever you do. Sounds unnecessarily fatalistic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:33 PM
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RPers will say that there are RP people who just are and know nothing about the subreddit. Yes. As /u/TheGreasyPole and /u/drok007 have explained before, there are a host of guys, including myself, that were raised with with RP-like (not TRP) values who are completely unaware of the subreddit or the specific terminology. This is, of course, because RP (not TRP) values are traditional masculinity values, values that pervade history, across all cultures and time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 04:02 PM
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That's so nice of you, Susan. What a pal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 03:16 PM
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As long as I get to use KY Yours + Mine. Do you want the Yours or the Mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 04:52 AM
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You've triggered me. Now prepare to feel my wrath.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 04:45 AM
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"Redditor for 14 hours" should have been a dead giveaway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 04:34 AM
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If you need me to help you prepare a budget, I would be happy to. As mads notes, you can live frugally--and free--on minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 10:17 PM
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Mads laying down the logic. Read this comment, /u/Xemnas81, especially this part: The only real solution you have for these problems is to get a job that allows you to support yourself and move out of their home. This is your only chance at freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:59 PM
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In any case, I've met a few of the RPers IRL from an IRC meetup, and guess what? They're totally normal guys. INCONCEIVABLE!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 09:57 PM
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I also hear women are all cunning, scheming, emotional, amoral-thinking, thoughtless whores. You should stop hanging out with whoever is telling you these things. They aren't true. He probably spends 10 min out of his whole day of shit posting to help. You'll have to ask him. I just know that he has been helpful to a number of people, non-RPers included. Meanwhile there are people out there ACTUALLY invested in making the world a better place andguys like him wrote them off as beta cucks. This, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:01 PM
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Please see /u/Archwinger's comments, with which I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:58 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:56 PM
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Probably. INTJs are particularly over-represented on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 06:56 PM
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Very good analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 05:00 PM
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That wasn't the easiest test in the world vocab wise The MAT was not designed to be easy. The MAT is used on both the GRE and the LSAT, and is used to identify students' logical reasoning. Feeler and sensing types typically have a difficult time with the MAT, which is why they are not well represented in analytical fields like law, medicine, and STEM, and instead focus on fields like the humanities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 04:44 PM
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Part of TRP is being unafraid to cut certain demographics (single moms, sluts, alpha widows, etc.) of women out of your romantic life for your benefit. Maybe this is my generational gap showing, but this is not exclusively TRP knowledge. Most men instinctively know to not commit to these type of women. This is why when I play a round with my single buddies who know nothing of TRP they still regale me with stories of "hitting and quitting" the recently separated and desperate single moms. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 04:17 PM
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I wonder if "just be yourself" works only on non-feeler extros. This is one topic with which I have absolutely no experience. I was never told "just be yourself" (maybe that's a millennial thing) and even if I was, I would probably just be myself (extro).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 01:40 PM
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The reason /u/drok007 responded the way he did is because he is not TRP. He is RP. The difference is important and I hope you find the following exposition enlightening.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 10:30 PM
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Then why is he a respected EC in a sub that's SUPPOSED to be about self-improvement? I hear, in between his jovial displays of hyperbolic extroversion, he donates his time to personally assess, at no charge, anyone's physical fitness goals and help them achieve them (give them a meal plan and a workout routine). Sounds very generous to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 10:04 PM
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Not at all. It's actually fairly well represented by both sides. Plus, we have good faith discussion, and we often discuss off-topic items, like our plans for the weekend, our significant others, and our daily lives. All with a dose of comedic relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 09:07 PM
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You're always welcome in IRC. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 08:28 PM
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You can always spot the ENTPs. They are the ones writing multi-paragraph responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 04:36 PM
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You do know that GLO is a filthy hyperbolic extro of the first order, right? Extros unite!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 04:01 PM
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Every time I look at his meek, soft body in that side pronated position I want to punch him. As /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin has once quipped, I understand why bullies bully losers like this. His body language screams weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 01:45 PM
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Lol, griddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 01:33 PM
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How small we talking here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 04:42 AM
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We're on a debate sub so I thought people would be interested and offer more substantive answers. Come on, Epicureanist, you are a regular here. You know how it is. Good-faith substantive debating occurs about as often as Xemnas gets laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 04:18 AM
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Also, on a meta level, this is why women mostly don't make good leaders, they aren't smart enough to make these types of connections. Women are typically not good leaders not because of the reason provided here, but because they fail to compartmentalize their emotions and, as I have personally experienced, cannot make swift decisions under pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 04:12 AM
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You really understand: legacy isn't about you; that's a prole belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 01:53 AM
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Stellar response. You and /u/dathrowaway808 below are right. Marriage will be the domain of the elite; the majority's eschewing of marriage will further widen the socioeconomic gap between the classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 07:16 PM
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Woah! Hold your horses there, Xemnas. First, we need to sign you up for the Society for Women Engineers and get in a game or two of Humans vs Zombies. I understand all the hotties participate in these activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 03:45 PM
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He is the portrait of a soft beta potata I see it! The ratios.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 02:15 PM
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being at least a reasonable cook is a must, Ah, but can you make roux?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 05:31 AM
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I won't tell my size publicly because I don't want to be accused for bullshitting Same man. These sub 12" males just don't understand. I'm with you brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 01:56 PM
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Damn it. I have the same rules as the commie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 01:38 PM
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Orgasm Arts: Female Orgasm Blueprint. "Mom, I'm getting my Bachelors of Arts in orgasms."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 12:06 AM
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Thanks, Hyper. This race troll is getting tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 04:48 PM
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Sure. But the moment I saw "dark-skinned black woman," my eyes rolled to the back of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 02:38 PM
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/u/hyperrreal said these type of posts were banned. I, too, am confused why this post is still up. SFBlackGirl (a known race troll) is back, yet again, under a new name (a new account). The mods should delete this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 01:55 PM
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TGP, Atlas called me a name. Can I borrow one of your commie ivory-plated guillotines?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:33 PM
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But no, I don't like super low body fat on men. I like heft. Density. Those men's mag cover models are just...ugh. But I ALSO like a muscular build. Serious muscle with some fat on top is awesome. Fat with no muscle is not awesome. Exactly. Strongfat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:24 PM
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Motorcycle? Check. No job? Check. Muscles? Check. Beard? Oh no! I'm sorry, 3/4 on the /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin scale. Maybe next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:19 PM
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I see you like the strongfat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:18 PM
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Edited to reflect correct sex. Still ... Get some!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:16 PM
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"Netflix and chill" huh? nudge my woman! Get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:12 PM
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Great. What you been up to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:02 PM
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Strongalfalfa, I haven't seen you in a while. You been in monk mode?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 08:28 PM
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My perfect alpha: SMV: 9,54 Consists of: Tons of gym muscle, total monk mode, known by others as a great PUA Handles shit tests and keeps frame by: Spitting damn good game Age: 46 (peak SMV age) Completely different than my view. It all depends on how you classify "alpha." As /u/TheGreasyPole has explained before there are really two "alphas"--the patriarch (AB/BF) and the warrior/criminal alpha (AF). /u/OccamsUsername has described the latter as the pinnacle of civilization/the perfect alpha--t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:56 PM
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as a straight man, feeling my dick inside a wet pussy. There is no comparison. A real man. Upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:40 PM
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I hate to agree with belletaco, but both of those guys are highly attractive ottermodes. If you are having trouble in the real world and you look like that, it's not that you're physically unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 12:36 AM
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Xemnas, don't adhere to RP/manosphere advice, even from the side bar, so zealously; take a position. The side bar is not dogma, and, as RPers have mentioned before, take what you want and disregard the rest. To that end, I disagree with Rollo here. Associative mating is the standard, and I have personally experienced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 07:28 PM
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If you want a woman to be physically turned on by you, you need to be at least 1-2 points above her number. This is the part I disagree with. At a certain threshold for a man (7+), a woman at nearly every value will be turned on by him. Remember, a 7+ man, according to both the fiat-drok scale and the SirNemesis-BTL scale is a high-value man in the upper percentile of society. I simply do not see 7+ men needing to date down to 5-6 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 07:03 PM
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Especially not when it comes to what your grandmother says. I fear that Xemnas may not know this normal social behavior, and is conflating "come here, gimme those chubby little cheekies" with "you're a fat fuck."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 06:53 PM
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And it's certainly not civil or polite, given that the customer will notice. I presume that the TRPer is wise enough to not blatantly change his style in front of another customer and has the salesman tact to isolate his customers. Maybe I am being too generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 06:42 PM
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Turning on the charm is necessary. It is. But your entire comment is completely irrelevant to the point OP is making: that his turning down the "charm" is "denying [her] humanity." He is not. Your comment does not refute my point and instead makes a random statement that I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 06:29 PM
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Its one of the reasons why attractive people have more freedom when it comes to having conversations about sex Not just sex, everything. You know you are attractive when you say something sexist, racist, or "oppressive" and your colleagues/employees/boss laughs and doesn't call HR on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 06:24 PM
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This one basically implies that he won't have any human civility with a fat, female customer because she's not attractive. He said he wouldn't turn the charm on, not that he wouldn't be civil. That's basically reducing every woman to a binary decision of fuckable or not. Men do this instinctively, reflexively, and subconsciously. I'm no 3rd wave feminist, but denying the humanity of a person just galls me. As stated above, he simply said he isn't going to turn on the charm. He's not "denying [he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 06:18 PM
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If you want a relationship based solely on physical attraction and you want a 5-6 woman, (again very plain possibly even slightly ugly except not obese) you need to be at least an 8 as a man. This is clearly hyperbole used to drive home a point. Associative mating is true to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 06:07 PM
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Admittedly, the masterful feminist plan to lower men's standards has probably worked on me. NOOO!! Come back to the light, fiat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 04:23 PM
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Does being married truly curb your desire for other women or does it just mean you won't act on it? Not at all. The rule is "look, don't touch." I am still a virile, young(ish) man. So, my dad actually has the same revulsion to fat women. You mean the same revulsion most guys have? Sounds normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 04:06 PM
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My prediction is that in all of these scenarios, the percentage is over 50%. Your prediction would be incorrect. According to the CDC, "the majority of women [are] overweight or obese (63.4 percent). I don't fuck fatties, so we are already at 37%. With other physical preferences taken into account, I can conclude that only between 10-20% of women are "bangable" (this is all assuming I am no longer married).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:32 PM
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I really like your comment. Very fair and exacting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:17 AM
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The difference, as I and /u/drok007 and /u/TheGreasyPole have explained before, is critical to understanding the relations between TRP and RP. Think of RP (the manosphere) as a whole pie, and TRP as only one part of that pie. TRP's subscribers typically advocate the no marriage, plate-only Alpha Fucks lifestyle that is the common trope in this sub. There are, of course, other aspects to RP. Originally, for example, the manosphere described RP as based on the principles of rational egoism (self-i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:12 AM
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And what does BP offer to counteract or as an alternative ? How is BP helping? I don't know. Upvoted for refreshing honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 01:59 AM
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I just want to let you know, the perfect RPer would outwardly also have every one of those traits. TRPer, yes. RPer, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 01:56 AM
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It is a Field Report, surely. But as /u/PemBayliss notes it also has educational value.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 01:53 AM
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24) Misc/Self-help: Dead bedroom. Man completely withdraws attention from his wife. Wife gives sex. He rewards her with increased attention. By far my favorite. The feminist/BP screeching, the man's active attempt to solve a nearly insurmountable problem, and the lols that were had.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 01:46 AM
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You should be free to do as you like, just remember that every choice has a consequence. Enjoy your Tinder dates, anacrassis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 01:26 AM
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What's ironic is that the word itself is changeable, unpredictable and, in a way, seemingly dangerous—"creep" is a pretty creepy word. It is indeed, rhetorically, a loaded word, in that its use attempts to influence the listener by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 12:59 AM
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Accept nothing less than the best. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 06:51 PM
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Surely you mean "sub 8" men on the /u/SirNemesis - /u/BeyondtheLight scale and not on the /u/fiat_lux - /u/drok007 scale. Otherwise, virtually no men would be able to approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 05:49 PM
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[Physically] Attractive people can be creepy. Agree. As /u/Archwinger eloquently stated below, attraction is not just based on the physical, which is why my comment said nothing about his physicality, but his overall unattractiveness. I continue to stand by my conclusion that he is, in some specific form, "whether it's looks, personality, [or] social aptitude," unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 04:45 PM
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Dude you're a creep. This is the main signal you never want to hear. This means you are unattractive. You want to hear: "you're a jerk/asshole" (read: "I hate that I love you so much"); you never want to hear the C word. He needs to boost his SMV because he's clearly unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 04:10 PM
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How am I going to get this chubby wife pregnant if I can't get hard while staring at her I Can't Believe It's Not Butter bingo wings?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 01:53 PM
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/u/Atlas_B_Shruggin can probably answer this better than me, but I will take a stab. RPW typically aim for commitment-minded naturals (alphas or greater betas), not TRPers. Indeed, you will find that most of their husbands/SOs are naturals and completely unaware of RP terminology (this, importantly, does not mean that they are not aware of RP principles; most are).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 01:37 PM
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Yes!!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 05:01 AM
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My understanding is you're fairly high SMV and popular. Characteristics /u/gridrexx, affectionately named griddy, got from being secret RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 12:56 AM
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This is America, and we don't let anyone tell us what to do (besides Saudi Arabia and China and the Koch brothers) Absolute 10/10 troll post. The only things that could have made it better would be more references to freedom, Toby Keith playing in the background, and a fireworks display.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 12:53 AM
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Quiet incels are usually left alone ... To surreptitiously craft incomprehensible manifestos and plot mass murders of "females" and "Chads."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 09:04 PM
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14-year-old premenarche virgin girls USDA Prime. /u/SirNemesis
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:41 PM
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I just want to say you handled this argument gracefully, and you made some compelling points that made me think. All of this you accomplished despite being inundated with snark.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:18 PM
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Hey a 7/8 on the fiat-drok scale is stellar. Keep up the good work, Naz.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 08:06 PM
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Naz is a 10/10 alpha male. We all know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:59 PM
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Yes, no question. Make everyone sign up or make no one sign up. Great. As a minarchist, I favor the latter. No, and that's because we still need it. I have seen substantial evidence indicating otherwise. I am of the belief that if my tax dollars are going to fund a government program, that program should be backed by irrefutable proof of it's usefulness. I have seen no such proof regarding the purported "wage gap." Further, as a minarchist, protection of individual liberties are paramount. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 07:37 PM
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This is correct. Anyone who has trained a dog would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:54 PM
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As a supporter of gender equality I am as well! You would agree with me, would you not, that we should enforce selective service for women, eliminate all affirmative action programs for women, and cancel benefits exclusively given to women, such as under Title IX?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:52 PM
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A lot of people think that being passive equates to being nice, it doesn't. Right on point. Niceness is now equated to passivity, meekness, obedience, and timidity. In fact, the true definition of "nice" is kindness, which as a virtue, is characterized by, as Aristotle has said: "helpfulness towards someone in need, not in return for anything, nor for the advantage of the helper himself, but for that of the person helped."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 06:42 PM
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Women have equality now, there's nothing stopping them. I'm feeling the effects of Poe's Law.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 03:27 PM
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Running most businesses eats up all your time too, though. Yes, but you are on your timeline, not middle manager Ted's timeline. The end goal may be everything being self-sufficient but how many get there and how long does it take those who do. It takes about 15-20 years from what I have seen, so by your early 40s, your business is essentially self sufficient. Life is short so why not cut corners and risk it all. Balancing risk and reward is how you determine what you want in life. If you are al…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:35 PM
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My wife has a special talent for event planning, and she cares about our community. She and her friends started a philanthropic organization about ten years ago that helps veterans and disadvantaged children. She also is active in several women's only societies and our church. Finally, she started raising money as a triathlete. She is very busy, but the difference is she doesn't work for someone as a wage slave. She does all of this because she gets pleasure from helping people, and I can't say …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:23 PM
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I kind of hate my job and he's been pushing me to quit because we legitimately don't need the income anyways. You should. I had my wife stop working a year before our first child, and because of this, she has aged beautifully. While her peers in the business world are stressed out trying to "have it all" with the career and the kids, my wife stays at home and takes care of our kids. She is far happier and her body shows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:06 PM
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One doesn't get rich by working for others, so your hypothetical is a non-starter. Most of the wealthiest people I know are self-made men who own their own businesses or are investors. If you get rich by selling your life you are a schmuck of the highest order. Agree. That's why you don't work for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 02:02 PM
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Thank you for this Chemist. I will review and edit my post with my thoughts soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:30 PM
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Take a crack at some of the inferences. Which ones do you think hold some water?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 10:01 PM
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Oh no! You just reminded me. That "Dear Future Husband" one is just as awful. Hopefully, no one takes these songs seriously; for humanity's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 10:00 PM
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Excellent answer that nails the key point: money is not just cash; it is freedom. Money allows you to spend your time doing the things you want, and, because of this, it is no surprise that money troubles are one of the top contributors to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:56 PM
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Man or woman, black or white, casual sex means the same things about your values. Which values are those?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 09:51 PM
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It's all about balance, my friend. Neither beta behavior nor alpha behavior are bad. Radicalizing one at the expense of the other, however, is bad. I hope you rediscover the balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 07:53 PM
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BP women: All About That Bass I hate this song so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 07:00 PM
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Why can't you get your gold back?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 06:59 PM
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I actually hate myself pretty much all of the time. I finally understand your comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:52 PM
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Lol yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 07:05 PM
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Be real nice and romantic to girls and they'll fall head over heels for you? They absolutely will if you follow the two rules: be attractive; don't be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 03:35 AM
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Both are alphas of their respective species (I.e., Batman is the alpha bat, and Spider-Man is the alpha spider). The real question is which species is the most alpha? Clearly, it's bats: they can fly and some of them suck blood. That's alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 09:56 PM
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TGP, I appreciate your thorough analysis here and below, but I was noting something simple: that personality is irrelevant to female reproductive success. In other words, the most irritating, unpleasant, rancorous bitch is going to reproduce so long as she's hot. This is uncontroversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 09:50 PM
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Since personality has so little bearing on female reproductive success The key phrase. Spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 07:41 PM
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I think my job and my husband are the only things not average about my life. Flair indicates statement is ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 03:32 PM
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average female n count lol 20+?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 03:29 PM
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Absolutely I am in a UMC occupation. The guillotines toll for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 03:28 PM
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I am happy to have you as a friend. We know one thing for sure: the girl that is confiding in him isn't going to fuck him. Sorry /u/GuitarsAreGettingOld, you've entered the Friendzone. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 03:22 PM
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One of the greatest, most complete dismantlements I have ever seen in all my years. You should have been a lawyer, TGP. But then you'd have to guillotine yourself. At least you'd go down in ivory-plated glory.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 02:00 PM
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The day women start dating shorter, poorer men The universe will go cold beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:23 PM
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Between those two options, who wouldn't take substance abuse? Stay-at-home incel sounds terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 06:28 PM
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I could see both of those being possible negatives. Unless, of course, as /u/theSandbergPrinciple notes above, the promiscuous men actually want to be promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 06:26 PM
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why does red pill obsess over that and never talk about the real negative to male sluttery Taibow, just so I understand your point could you identify the "real negative to male sluttery"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 06:09 PM
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Women have zero right to complain about men preferring less promiscuous women for relationships. I'm genuinely curious, why would a woman even complain about this? If you want to be promiscuous, have at it. You can do whatever you want in this world; just know your choices have consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 05:16 PM
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She didn't want or beg for the anal. December 16, 2011 Facebook comment from Emma Sulkowitz to Paul Nungesser: "[Paul], fuck me in the but[t]."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 05:49 PM
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While your tu quoque is well taken, it does not address the question presented in the OP. Judging by your response here, I take it you would answer that both men and women cannot be educated to avoid all risk in not getting raped/not being accused of rape. That would, of course, be the only intellectually honest answer. Accordingly, both Cis's comment that women can be educated to avoid rape and BP's comment that men can be taught to avoid rape accusations are invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 05:04 PM
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First, do you think that this difference in priorities (truth vs utility) is one of the big disconnects between TRP and people who have similar problems with it that I do? Second, what do you think of the merits of prioritizing utlity over truth? There is not a difference in priorities. Both are prioritized. Truth is relative. When I say, "all women are like that," I am not literally contending all women are the same. That's patently ludicrous. I am simply saying that you should be cautious in y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:46 PM
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It leads to the conclusion that the redpill cherry picks whatever data makes women look bad, then reduces everyone to fuck toys, before pushing a Republican marriage. Lol! I can't stop laughing. /u/TheGreasyPole I'll take one of those lobotomies please.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:49 PM
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In other words, music no one has heard of. :) I know you listen to some Cars and Boston on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:43 PM
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I recently found Red; Lie to Me is a great song.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 01:41 PM
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I haven't seen anything that brought my piss to a white hot boil in a long time. Your life experiences must be rather tame if a complete stranger's comment on an inconsequential message board infuriated you so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 11:36 PM
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Exactly. I share your sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 11:28 PM
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This is one of the most stupid things I have seen here. HSW I've never seen you this feisty. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 11:12 PM
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He undeniably has high sexual market value, or else he wouldn't be getting laid like tile by hundreds of women. I (and I assume /u/PemBayliss is too) am at a total loss at why this is in any way a controversial statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 11:08 PM
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Lol what a great example of why PUA, Red Pill and MRA's aren't all the same thing. Agreed. You're basically a tradionalist [sic] Yep. I wonder if you know that I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 09:33 PM
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AVFM and men's rights activists are all jokes. Men don't need advocates; women and children do. Men sink or swim on their own. This is the way it has always been and how it shall always be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 07:46 PM
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Great comment. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 06:47 PM
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Wonderful identification of the distinguishing feature. Upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 06:34 PM
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Yes, but divorce rape, child support, and alimony are one and the same, and the most likely. "Accidental" pregnancy, DV, abortions, and spermjacking and much less likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 06:07 PM
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I agree with a number of the comments stated here. First, it is true what /u/TheGreasyPole says, "it does make sense for human genes." Second, as /u/drok007 says, "it is a trait of many of the most successful people." Finally, legacy is a point of personal pride for me, and it has helped my family develop social power and consolidate wealth such that I can call upon at any time. Pinging /u/iGotXans. Edit: /u/MagicGainbow's point regarding legacy importance being a characteristic of business owne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 05:13 PM
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Cancer? Wheel Chair? Tough Shit. Agree. You should first spend your money on risk avoidance, like purchasing insurance to insure against unfortunate circumstances like this, instead of on the newest iPhone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 04:37 PM
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Because it's apparently the government's. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 03:27 PM
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I deleted my comment because this one is so amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 03:03 PM
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but tbh I am more concerned about divorce rape, false rape accusatiins, spermjacking, child support, alimony, abortion/paternity laws, DV, them fucking off if I have another depressive episode etc. Of all of these, the first and the last should be your only concern. The others, while occurring, are far rarer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 02:52 PM
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This should be the top comment. While the current hypothetical is tragic, compulsory abortion is irreconcilable with the very foundation of the inductive principles of common law. Under no circumstances, no matter how heinous the facts, should we ever compel abortion in a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 02:02 PM
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Any person who's even remotely literate A bit early for the passive-aggressive personal attacks, but I will continue in good faith. My sole contention in the above reply is that the origins of the word "respect" concern, based on etymology, reverence and deference. This is well-established. The current use of the term that includes the other definitions is a bastardized, modernized version that I disagree with. Your response should have addressed this narrow point, but you decided to take a diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:47 PM
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Please see /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin's response to this line of reasoning below.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 07:17 PM
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Correct. Also, as /u/alreadyredschool said, respect has devolved to mean courtesy or civility, instead of deference and reverence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 10:31 PM
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Agreed. The one thing I can't stand is when women go for achievements to obtain respect and then complain when they can't find love. No duh...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 10:26 PM
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That's fine. But don't expect love, where you will get only respect; and don't expect respect where you will get only love.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 10:08 PM
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Just out of curiosity, what are these differing definitions of 'respect' and how do they apply here? Traditionally, respect is reserved for those of whom you revere, honor, or admire. It is not, as often suggested on this sub (and as modernly bastardized), courtesy, civility, affection, compassion, or kindness. In fact, respect is cold; love is warm. Respect is what you get when you land a spaceship on a comet, not what you get from your husband. Do you think women don't want to be valued for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:52 PM
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how do you think this problem could be solved? How most problems like this are solved, increase the incentives or decrease the risk. Your second suggestion (reforming divorce laws) decreases risk, and may be the most simple solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:27 PM
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The latter was, as shown in a statistic linked elsewhere, was more likely to be unhappy with a marriage, but there are exceptions. I'm also curious what reasons, aside from more cock, are available to explain this phenomenon. Exceptions in life do little to properly manage risk. One manages risk by evaluating the standards, not the outliers. The reasons are inextricably intertwined with more cock because seeking more cock is illustrative of certain traits. Fair comparison, and a distinction I sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:07 PM
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This is correct. Yet again are people incorrectly applying the modern revisionist version of the word "respect."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 08:03 PM
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Not /u/secondshoah, but I figured I could offer some discussion. Does the amount of sex people you've never met have an impact on you? To clarify, do you mean does the amount of sex strangers have with others impact me, or does the amount of sex a potential partner have with others impact me? If the former, of course not. People can do as they please with their lives. If the latter, yes. If a woman you're dating has had a lot of safe sex in her past, and is no worse off for it, what is the probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 07:55 PM
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Reformatted. "Don't be exclusively nice to [anyone], or they will [take advantage of] you for it."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 06:02 PM
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Cuittler, I fail to see how your comment is relevant to the question presented. The question concerns women who do not like the lifestyle choices they made (hence the "women are losing the dating game" title). Your mom is a happily-single MILF (as /u/ArrantPariah notes), and she enjoys her lifestyle choices. Edit: in any event, how could one feel sympathy for your mother who apparently enjoys her life position?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 04:39 PM
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Do you sympathize with the beta men in their 20s who can't get any female attention? Or, do you sympathize with the "high achieving" women in their 30s who can't hook a man with suitable status? Both? Neither? It is easier to sympathize with the omega male because he was, at the time, trying (while inefficiently and unsuccessfully) to get female attention. On the other hand, the 30s women in this scenario apparently have a more difficult time only after they decide to change their strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:40 PM
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I understand your point now, Cis. Maybe you can repost with this reformed understanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:26 PM
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Makes sense, but I have also seen ENTP. He was a man of great interpersonal charm, an intuitive mind, cool and calculating, and a judicious planner. Serial killers are often ENTJ, while ENTJs are not often serial killers (there are about 7 million ENTJs in the United States alone). Luckily, most ENTJ are corporate, civic, and community leaders, and not serial killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:22 PM
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ENTJ Master Race with /u/drok007 and /u/fiat_lux
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:08 PM
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Cis, I think there is a conflation error here between HSW's question and your response. Let me see if I can unpack it. As you know, I am not a TRPer; I am an RPer. /u/drok007 and /u/TheGreasyPole have discussed this important distinction, and I believe that distinction is once again brought to the forefront here. It looks to me like no authority has ever claimed that the anger isn't 100% legitimate. I believe very few, if any, TRPer or RPer finds that the anger expressed on TRP is illegitimate--…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 03:06 PM
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A life without purpose (determined by that individual for himself) feels empty. But what do you say to the man or woman, whose purpose, defined by themselves, as you say, is hedonism?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 09:38 PM
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Turning high level betas into alphas TRP doesn't do this because "alphas", under the Atlas definition, are thieving murderous pirates. TRP is "build a better beta," culminating in the greater beta/AB ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 12:01 PM
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Note: This only involves a personal opinion, regardless of what would be decided legally or not. Your disclaimer is a non-starter. Rape is a defined legal term. Rape is not and never will be a moral term. Within the literal definition of rape are legal elements that must be made according to proof. You cannot dissect the word from it's definition; therefore, any attempt to redefine nullifies the word entirely. You can ask the group here whether the conduct in your hypothetical is morally repugna…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 07:45 PM
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This is what I thought as well. It just seems like male locker room euphemisms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:35 PM
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What a transformation! Wow!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:12 PM
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None? I find that hard to believe. What is the "certain point"? Are we talking horribly disfigured here? If not, there is always something that can be done to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 05:26 PM
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She is an anomaly that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 04:46 PM
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I am curious as to this as well. For argument's sake, if you are still a 2, even after meeting a number of self-improvement goals (which I find inconceivable), then just get with a like-SMV woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 04:21 PM
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/u/wuboo is right. After college, most guys in fraternities just continue the lifestyle by getting involved in networking groups and/or philanthropies (we just let the women run the latter, while we play golf).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:16 AM
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Certainly no one under 18/21 ever drinks or smokes. Of course not. No one ever breaks the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 11:04 PM
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Lol. This was clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 10:41 PM
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In my experience, virgins or women with really low partner counts (1, 2) probably would want to wait a lot longer than a week to have sex with a new person, especially if commitment isn't guaranteed. This is correct, and I have personal experience with this. My wife and I waited a significant amount of time before losing our virginities to one another. It would be silly for a man to "next" a virgin, especially a religious one, just because she didn't put out by the third date. Use your common se…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:38 PM
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The only people who ever seem to have an issue with it are the "racing snake" nerds who always want to know why they can't go running or cycling instead. TGP, but you don't understand. These "racing snake" nerds can lift groceries, make roux, and collect mason jars. You are nothing compared to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 07:34 PM
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That's what we do in the bureaucratic world we live in. More arbitrary rules weeee!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:41 PM
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Arbitrary age limits are what we do with everything else (drinking, smoking, driving (hopefully not all at the same time)).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:24 PM
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/u/Xemnas81 please read TGP's excellent comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 01:09 PM
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They both give in different ways. That's what a marriage is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 12:55 PM
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You can help her make the choice, and if she doesn't follow you, she never wanted to be with you in the first place. Good news for you: you didn't waste your time waiting for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:38 PM
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Keeping in mind that this couple is from an Indian culture, which parts of these do you think the fiance had a right to know about? A right to know? None. Should she have told him? All of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:45 PM
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"my career comes first, either they follow me or we break up." And this is why the current dating/marriage environment is disastrous. Both parties believe they should lead, resulting in, ironically, an unequal relationship where they hate one another while they pursue their careers. Marriage and long-term relationships require give. In the current environment, no one gives, leading to where we are today.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:09 PM
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Thank you for your insightful comment. That being said, anecdotes from this very diverse crowd should be taken with a very liberal grain of salt. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 08:48 PM
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she asks for a 'break' around graduation, when you both go to separate colleges This is the mistake. You don't have your high school sweetheart, if you intend on marrying her one day, go to another college than you. Besides, being together is awesome; you can go to all the events and parties together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 08:20 PM
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Excellent! I am glad you point that out. Now we are getting to where I wanted to go. If Reddit, which necessarily includes TRP and TBP, is, as you say, "not a great representation of society as a whole," then how can we continue to generalize on TRP, TBP, or PPD? In fact, how can we, as outliers, even resort to employing anecdotes, as /u/TheChemist158 noted earlier, to support our arguments that the world is "this way," when we all but concede that it isn't? EDIT: Taking this argumentum ad absur…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 06:51 PM
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social norms punish you when you don't observe binary sexual relationships. Which social norms? All I see on this site all day long is how everyone is a promiscuous bisexual transmale super saiyan. In fact, I feel like the outcast, as a regular heterosexual dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 05:37 PM
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What about people who don't care about partner counts or whether a woman is older or whether she has a child. Would TRPillers look down on that person's decisions? Such people, like everyone else, are free to make decisions they believe are best for them. Everyone has their own individual will. Exercise it how you so desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 04:42 PM
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The reason this "mental point of origin" does not work is because it presupposes the correct chronology. The chronology actually looks like: go to school, work hard meet the girl of your dreams get into college, graduate get married, live happily ever after, grow old in love get a good job have fun die happy People delay the search too often anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 03:03 PM
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By law, the only thing she and you are entitled to is half of the common law property upon divorce. Otherwise, you and her have no legal obligations to one another. By moral standards, a marriage is a contract wherein the parties vow to maintain certain things to one another. Those vows, or promises, are often expressed as the following: "I, __, take you, __, for my lawful wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and heal…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 09:26 PM
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/u/Amethhyst Prepare Yourself for Upvotes!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:31 PM
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I'm sorry if I was hast Someone apologized on PPD?! Have an upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:03 PM
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As a dude, I've been too tired for sex. Wat?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:53 PM
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Great analogy, which I hopefully can expand on with an analogy to some basic common law contract rules. At common law, the wife's betrayal is like an anticipatory breach, which occurs when one party, by words or conduct, evinces an intention not to perform part or all of the contract. When such repudiation occurs, the non-breaching party is excused from performing further obligations under the contract but may also seek assurance from the breaching party that it will perform. If the breaching pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 05:07 PM
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The withholding of sex is a gambit, a tactic, designed toward behavior modification -- an attempt to get the husband to do, be, not do or not be something. This is betrayal--a breach of the presumptive contract, trust, and confidence in the relationship. It is unacceptable manipulative behavior, and I would implore anyone, man or woman, to immediately leave a relationship where such a betrayal existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:51 PM
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take the bull by the horns. ENTJ master race taking the bull by the horns.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 04:30 PM
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Amen, brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:50 PM
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This is correct. From my former job, I know a number of fat, wealthy attorneys who have attractive wives and girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 11:43 PM
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Good question. I have often thought about this. There is a part of me that would be initially upset because I know what it took for me, my father, and my grandfather to work to make our family what it is today. There is another part of me (something I learned from my father as he got older) that life isn't just about accomplishments, and if I could have a good relationship with my sons, despite choices I may disapprove of, I think that the better choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 08:14 PM
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Thanks, Taibow. I appreciate the concession.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 08:02 PM
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Pedestalize is defined as "to place something on a pedestal; to hold something in very high esteem, especially to an exaggerated degree." I fail to see how, for example, placing my sons' wellbeing over my own is pedestalization. If this were true, all animals pedestalize when they place the interests of their offspring higher than their own--rendering the word a complete nullity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 07:54 PM
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Well said, TGP. I like the idea of the three circles. I also run my life this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 07:05 PM
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Haha! And to hear the lamentation of their women!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 06:59 PM
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It's supposed to be something to help you think, not a set of rules to follow exactly. Agree. As I stated above, it is like many of the business/executive-type manuals, which teach you how to think and examine a problem. They are not, as some in here suggest, rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 06:43 PM
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A contradictory position is one that is in sharp contrast to or irreconcilable with another position. In your example, the statements are not contradictory; in fact, they are complementary, and provide for the following compound sentence: "if you're water is too cold or too hot, then you may hurt yourself." On the other hand, the 48 Laws do have some contradictory statements, such as: Compare Law 2: Never put too Much Trust in Friends, Learn how to use Enemies with Law 15: Crush your Enemy Total…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 04:16 PM
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Isn't there just a pill I can take? I don't actually want to stop eating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 03:50 PM
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The 48 Laws of Power is a good read, but like any best-selling business/executive manual (see How to Win Friends and Influence People or Effective Executive) it has some flaws, like taking contradictory positions. It generally makes some good points, and it describes my experience in both the legal industry and in business fairly accurately.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 03:30 PM
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So what, are you saying that people brought in traditional nuclear families following traditional gender roles never make mistakes or bad decisions? Nope. Absolutist statements like this are reserved only for Bloopers and the Sith. I am a man who likes to manage risk, and traditional nuclear families have proven to be he most stable, although not perfect. I am fully aware of the importance of extended family (and highly encourage it) and the foundation of the nuclear family, as well as the amoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 03:20 PM
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money doesn't make a man more sexually attractive While it may not do it for you, it apparently does it for lots of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 11:31 PM
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To answer the question posed, "No." I used to work with dozens of female lawyers, and I treated them just like the men that worked with me. Their degrees did nothing for me. Their short skirts, on the other hand....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 10:53 PM
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Well said. As Barry Schwartz said: Unfortunately, the proliferation of choice in our lives robs us of the opportunity to decide for ourselves just how important any given decision is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 10:34 PM
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I agreed with you. My "should be" comment was more a facetious comment on the nature of the millennial era, where unemployed 25-year-olds act as perennial students in high-price day cares called colleges. From my OP: With one hand they tried to instill in their children a sense of responsibility, and with the other, they helped guide them and rescue them from peril. You know me, I'm about balance. I agree helicopter parenting is hugely detrimental. I also believe the lack of guidance (and let's …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 10:18 PM
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Legally? No. Should be? Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 10:02 PM
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Looks like standard fare to me -- man must pedestalize, supplicate, grovel, beg, plead, have slow soft lovemaking, not stand up for himself, give her whatever she wants, men are presumed to be "verbally abusive", etc. Just reading that shriveled up all the pussies in the Western United States. How degrading. "Soft lovemaking" hahaha!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 09:45 PM
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When you told her you didn't want to see her anymore, what did she say?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 06:58 PM
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Yes they made idiotic decisions but we all do when we're young Back in the old days, we had these things called "parents." These "parents" were typically a married couple who (gasp!) specialized in different tasks. Knowing they made stupid decisions as teenagers and young adults, they taught their children about the consequences of their decisions. With one hand they tried to instill in their children a sense of responsibility, and with the other, they helped guide them and rescue them from peri…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 06:12 PM
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That is totally unacceptable and she's a major red flag person. It is even more unreasonable because of the woman's age. In your teens, I find it perfectly acceptable to wait for a period of time, but judging by this woman's n-count, she is nearing 40. This new guy should dump her immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 06:02 PM
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This is the correct comment. The first reason that people in this thread, and in TRP in general, conflate the terms alpha and beta is because they often think of them as binary characteristics, when in fact they are set on a scale (as /u/PemBayliss has illustrated before). The second reason is the discussion typically collapses to one concerning Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks, when in fact the most alpha among men are neither. Whatever terminology you want to use (Beta Fucks, Alpha Bucks, greater beta,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 05:51 PM
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Hahahahahahah!! AtlasB++
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 03:37 PM
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/u/CisWhiteMaelstrom says eating babies are good for you, so I thought, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:59 PM
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I recall that promoting the general welfare has been one of the primary goals of this country since the Declaration of Independence, so why don't you try your bullshit where people don't know better? I'm going to take it easy on you since I can tell, from your ignorant statement above, that you do not have legal training. The short answer is that the clause "promoting the general welfare," as expressed in both the Preamble and Article I, does not, by its terms, provide for the welfare state in w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 09:56 PM
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