Proud-Cheesecake-813 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
22	Why do you think Western Birth Rates are so low?	Discussion	Proud-Cheesecake-813	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 10:59 AM

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2	"The real reason for the rise in male childlessness" Whilst being blindsided by the fact the taller man likely doesn’t want her. Their logic is laughable.	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 08:06 PM
4	"The real reason for the rise in male childlessness" Many get banned/sued.	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 08:06 PM
10	"The real reason for the rise in male childlessness" Men need to be more selfish right now. For the last 100 years, men have slowly increased their support for feminism - believing it was about gender equality. Turns out it was supremacy, not equality. Therefore, men need to stop supporting women that just want to crush them. Empower yourself and get what you want. Feminists don’t care about you unless it benefits themselves.	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 08:05 PM
3	Forced military drafting is gender discrimination in the eyes of Feminism, but only when women are drafted as well Feminism isn’t about equality, it’s about women getting all the good bits of equality without the bad bits. That means - lots of affirmative action for university places, STEM careers etc. That does NOT mean they become the breadwinner, get drafted or ‘date down’. That would be a sacrifice for them and, as we know, feminists can’t sacrifice - especially not for a man.	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 07:10 PM
7	It’s insane how much some of these people have lied to themselves This person definitely has mental health issues.	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 06:44 PM
5	"The real reason for the rise in male childlessness" I agree with most of this, however there’s a problem with tradies. That is lower-middle class at most, meaning your pool of women is limited. Sure you’ll earn loads, but you won’t be getting a sophisticated wife (if that’s what you’re in to). Obviously, not an issue for many men but it is a limiter. There is a truth that if you can stomach the current higher education system (ie very feminine) and end up in a high paying, well respected career like law, medicine, high finance - you will have the…	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 03:17 PM
47	"The real reason for the rise in male childlessness" A man can have a job, but that career will only give him a license for women of an equal or ‘lower class’ job. A bin-man getting paid a decent amount won’t be respected by the average woman working in an office. The standards are going up as more women receive degrees compared to men. It’s not hard to understand, but you can bet all your savings that men won’t get affirmative action, so they graduate at equal rates to women. Yet governments are scratching their heads as to why birth rates are de…	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 12:51 PM
30	"The real reason for the rise in male childlessness" At least they’re actually admitting hypergamy exists. It’s taken years to get to this point. Obviously they have to add a HR friendly name for it - but they’re outright describing its definition. Feminist subs have long argued it isn’t true - guess the academics disagree.	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 12:19 PM
25	"The real reason for the rise in male childlessness" Women would want men more if they were richer and more educated. Finances are the primary factor in attraction - as per this article. Feminism has ensured men earn less, so they’re now less attractive. Only a reversal of this trend will benefit men.	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 11:42 AM
2	How can Men unite to drive a constructive gender conversation forward? That would take women being open minded to what we suggest. That isn’t happening. Right now, the best thing you can do is be selfish. Be greedy. Do whatever benefits you and ignore the people that get upset. They don’t care about helping you and they’re currently above you. To equalise the situation, we need to do what we want and ignore the critics.	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 11:32 AM
162	"The real reason for the rise in male childlessness" I was literally about to post this. I wrote a long post, so might as well post it here. Here are my takeaways: Most mainstream media articles about men getting married less/having less children are not great at discovering the root problem. This article is better than most, but still not great. The article correctly identifies that poor, uneducated men are the least likely to have children. It also points out that the wealthiest women are the least likely to be forced into childlessness. Now, I …	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 11:18 AM
253	Look at how blatant it is. They're not even trying to hide it. They’ll be crying about how lonely they are when they’re single at 40. These people’s brains run on low impulses - they aren’t intelligent.	/r/MensRights	01/11/24 10:08 AM
9	Understanding some of mens and women's struggles. Do you think the movie Zootopia can highlights them both? This is a really good point and I back your perspective. I think this applies for lots of things too: right wing = male, left wing = female being a good example. Left wing views equate to the ‘nanny state’ which looks after you from the cradle to the grave. It’s nurturing and provides motherly qualities - it’s feminine and focuses on co-operative care. The right wing is small state, go your own way - forge your own path. Create your own wealth and succeed through your own effort. Very masculine …	/r/MensRights	31/10/24 10:49 PM
8	Women Say They Have Been Misled and Betrayed by Feminist Ideology Sally is straight up a moron. She’s baffled that being anti-men drove men away. What a genius.	/r/MensRights	31/10/24 10:04 PM
12	Women Say They Have Been Misled and Betrayed by Feminist Ideology What I find genuinely rolling on the floor, stomach hurtingly funny (genuinely, this is so good) is that woman wanted financial independence. They entered the workforce on mass. What does doubling the labour force do? Drive down wages. Suddenly, a single woman in the 1960s goes from owning a 3 bedroom house to only affording a one bedroom flat in the 2010s. As feminism has increased in the workforce, the necessity of two incomes to own a house has increased. So, in conclusion, feminism has force…	/r/MensRights	31/10/24 10:02 PM
37	Reflecting on his past experience: “I really, I feel uncomfortable right now,” Justin Beiber replied, “why do you want to know the sex talk from a 15-year-old boy? That’s pretty weird.” The article also talks about the groping he was subjected to by older women. MeToo didn't help Justin Beiber. He was a child being sexually assaulted by adult women all the time. I’m not surprised he got angsty. I definitely shouldn’t have viewed him how I did back then. He’s done really well despite all the abuse he received in his childhood.	/r/MensRights	31/10/24 08:41 PM
13	Are MEN to blame for the UK fertility crisis? Women want children but are forced into freezing their eggs due to the 'mating gap' - where they can't find a partner to commit OP: More male hate! What kind of self-respecting, rich, fit, handsome man would settle for a woman that freezes her eggs?! The average man wouldn’t, let alone the top 10%. These women are finished.	/r/MensRights	30/10/24 06:02 PM
121	Are MEN to blame for the UK fertility crisis? Women want children but are forced into freezing their eggs due to the 'mating gap' - where they can't find a partner to commit OP: More male hate! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. “Can’t find a partner to commit” = top 10% of men having lots of options and not picking them. Funnily enough, the top 10% do want to commit - but not to the 33 year old woman whose best days are behind her. They will commit to the best women - which is the top 10% of women.	/r/MensRights	30/10/24 09:37 AM
30	Do you think men in the UK will ever wake up? I think many are, but they’re afraid to appear misogynistic or like an incel. The problem is, if you start complaining about the gender imbalance at universities, or that the wage gap exists due to couples choosing the mother to stay at home (or even maternity leave being more than paternity leave) the average woman will think you’re sexist. That has been engrained into the psyche of the nation. You can’t support men and not support women - even when women are drastically outperforming men. It’s…	/r/MensRights	29/10/24 10:13 PM
40	Forget incels, meet ‘femcels’ – the generation embracing ‘toxic femininity’ I’ve literally never heard a femcel blame themselves. Male incels usually focus on self-improvement, hitting the gym, learning pick up techniques etc. Femcels usually double down, gain weight, buy pets, tune out of society. That doesn’t sound like blaming yourself at all.	/r/MensRights	27/10/24 09:03 AM
22	Why do American politicians suck up to women voters but never male voters? It’s just like any other section of society. Take movies - many have been incredibly misandrist - specifically ensuring the movie replaces male characters with female ones and making sure the ‘male gaze’ isn’t entertained. These movies bomb. Same happens in politics; Hilary Clinton spent her campaign lambasting men and claiming the future was female. She lost to Donald Trump - the guy with multiple affairs/wives. Society ignores men then recoils in shock when men fight back. At the end of the da…	/r/MensRights	16/10/24 02:36 PM
4	"The future is female." The litmus test is always ‘would this be sexist if the genders were reversed?’. Of course it would be - so yes it’s sexist. That being said, you might see more of this stuff in the run-up to the U.S. election. Kamala is making the same mistake Hilary did.	/r/MensRights	16/10/24 08:38 AM
158	Journalists now saying the Joker movie was just made to upset incels Whenever the word incel is thrown around in the media, it’s used to describe men that are unhappy with something. It’s not used to describe involuntary celibates - just the majority of men who see how much misandry now exists.	/r/MensRights	08/10/24 03:31 PM
1	UK: Teachers tell schoolboys that 'displaying traditional gendered roles in a family' could lead to them committing rape. That’s fine then. Let the women slave away at work earning all the money. Cooking and cleaning is easy.	/r/MensRights	22/09/24 04:30 PM
0	Modern society is sick & toxic for all men now. Just look at the questions being asked about new "rules" for men... The Guardian will literally force any debate that results in men having their freedoms limited. Better to ignore their noise - nothing will happen about this.	/r/MensRights	16/08/24 09:20 AM
1	USA: Bumble Shares Take Record Plunge on Slashed Annual Outlook. OP: Feminist man hating dating app takes a hit. I don’t know exactly what the man said (it could have been irrational) but that summary suggests he may have had a legitimate complaint. But he gets banned for pointing that out. I think it’s telling that when people have to put their money where their mouth is - they don’t buy into this ideology. Reality heavily contrasts with theory in this situation. Bumble will continue to decline in value - while its 80% female workforce scratch their heads. Well, they would scratch them if they weren’t dee…	/r/MensRights	12/08/24 08:57 AM
7	But could compulsory military service help address the ongoing loneliness “epidemic” and the crisis of alienation facing men and boys? Just look at South Korea. Mandatory military service - lowest birth rate in the world. No, this is just doubling down on hating men.	/r/MensRights	07/08/24 12:21 PM
2	Man-hating lesbians Men live rent free in their heads. They crave male attention.	/r/MensRights	02/08/24 07:49 PM
2	Man-hating lesbians You think they care about them? These women are self-centred narcissists. They don’t care about anyone but themselves.	/r/MensRights	02/08/24 07:48 PM
20	So, which way is it society: Are men complete moronic losers for giving up on dating and ''going their own way'' or are men pathetic entitled ''incels'' for wanting a relationship in the first place, which is it society? Let them burn out working over 40 years to pay off a mortgage on their own, whilst wondering why no man wants them after they turn 40. They’re the smarter gender, apparently, so let them figure it out.	/r/MensRights	01/08/24 12:41 PM
23	So, which way is it society: Are men complete moronic losers for giving up on dating and ''going their own way'' or are men pathetic entitled ''incels'' for wanting a relationship in the first place, which is it society? At the end of the day, we’re seeing more and more women being childless, not getting married or getting divorced. These women cite issues such as lack of economically attractive men - because they want a man that earns at least as much as them (usually quite a bit more). They also want to close the wage gap and see men having higher incomes as misogyny. What I’m trying to say is these people aren’t very intellectual. They don’t think beyond base level desires - which they can’t settle beyond. Th…	/r/MensRights	01/08/24 12:39 PM
75	UK: I raised my son Winston as a feminist. It breaks my heart that today's young women treat him as toxic for just being male - while men are cancelled and belittled “Men have had it their way for centuries”. No they haven’t. Rich men have. People don’t realise, but most forms of discrimination stem from rich vs poor. The men that had to work 12 hour shifts in a factory, before getting drafted for war, did not have it better. Their wives stayed at home raising the children, while they died in the mud fighting abroad. The rich didn’t have to do that. It’s always been rich vs poor, not men vs women.	/r/MensRights	01/08/24 12:32 PM
6	Feminist sub right now: Enforcing gender roles on men is misogyny! So they’ll happily earn more than their husband, right? They’ll happily let him quit his stressful job to stay at home raising the children, right? They’ll have no resentments about becoming the breadwinner whilst the father enjoys spending time with their children, right? They don’t want the breakdown of gender roles. They want the most preferable outcome for themselves in any situation. It’s just being selfish - dressed up as equality.	/r/MensRights	30/07/24 10:58 AM
1	Female Cognitive Dissonance Nobody can tell me Jennifer Anniston couldn’t find a man to have children with. Why lament her own choices if she doesn’t regret them? Unless, of course, she does regret them.	/r/MensRights	27/07/24 05:45 PM
22	Episode 292: Psychology Doesn't Know What To Do With Men Anymore Psychology at University level is ~80% female. It’s not that they don’t know what to do, they really just don’t care. It doesn’t concern them.	/r/MensRights	19/05/24 01:29 PM
1	Where did the idea come from that women should have the expectation of never lifting a finger their entire lives and have everything handed to them? True, but I’m going to add - men need to become happy with being single. The reason why ‘incel discourse’ exists is that women have been happier on their own. Men need to accept they can also be happy on their own. Once men catch match a women’s happiness on their own - women lose their remaining power over men. Right now they can call the shots because men are desperate for companionship (not sex, that’s just an aspect of it). Men need to know they can be happy on their own. Then they can have …	/r/MensRights	19/05/24 01:23 PM
1	Where did the idea come from that women should have the expectation of never lifting a finger their entire lives and have everything handed to them? I disagree with a lot of this post. I know the sentiment that you’re talking about, but believe me this view comes from their own mothers/grandmothers that never had to work. You say that women in the 1950s ‘worked their ass off tending to the home and children’. You do realise every parent does this today, except they have to work full time too? Genuinely, the housewife in the 50s had the following day: wake up early-ish, get your hair and make-up done, prepare breakfast, ensure everyone leaves…	/r/MensRights	19/05/24 01:18 PM
1	I'm single because "they're all just intimidated" A woman. She is trying to figure out why men are put off by her. I don’t think intimidating is the right word - rather men believe her standards would be too high. If she earns $100K, she may well want a man who earns more - which they don’t. Or she may well want a man with a PhD, if she has a Masters. This dynamic is not present with men, they are happy to ‘date down’.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 04:38 PM
1	What is causing gen z men to be "pill theory" obsessed? It’s quite obviously social media and algorithms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 04:11 PM
-1	Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent? Ehh, I’m pretty certain more women find bald men attractive than men finding fat women attractive. Bald men are definitely seen as attractive by many women https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/relationships/love-sex/bald-men-are-perceived-as-more-attractive-and-masculine-says-study/amp_etphotostory/70643383.cms	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 02:58 PM
8	Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent? Most women wouldn’t date a man that earns less than them. Happy to see there are exceptions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 01:47 PM
3	Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent? To be fair, many women find bald men attractive. You don’t - but many do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 01:45 PM
3	Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent? How many men are earning $100K with a full head of hair, muscles, home improvement skills, good skin and hair. I’m going to guess about 5% of American men fit all of those criteria. Most men under 30 don’t earn $100K. Over 30 is when men start balding, start gaining weight etc. So if you’re a woman holding out for a man with all of that, you better be stunning because you will face a lot of competition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 01:44 PM
6	If “your league is what you can get” then women are shooting too high for guys they can only get for casual sex I’m sure they aren’t dating those people. What they’re saying is the market is now full of people like that, because dating apps have distorted people’s perception of what’s realistic. Someone has sex with a couple people out of their league - suddenly their future husband has to be of that level, when realistically someone of that level wouldn’t marry them. It’s a general complaint about modern dating, not ‘oh no I have to date these women’.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 06:22 AM
1	Wife has fantasies about causing husband emotional pain Evil woman. The husband deserves better.	/r/MensRights	07/04/24 08:28 PM
2	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke You’re definitely touching on a broader scope of attraction. Women are attracted to powerful men. Men who can provide, protect and lead. That is ingrained in our evolutionary psyche. This also, however, means patriarchy naturally evolved as a result. Because a man with those qualities is the definition of a patriarch. Women desire this man whilst wanting wider society to be gender equal/neutral. It doesn’t make sense. It’s in essence saying men and women should have equal amounts of everything, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 02:04 PM
4	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke Completely agree. If the relationship fails, it’s on him - not because she’s been squeezing the life out of him. Where’s the incentive for men? Why suffer this when you can enjoy life on your own? Spend your own money on what you enjoy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 12:54 PM
2	Single women with good careers who would trade your job for a husband, why? True, but with two parents earning you’re still only two head bumps away from being financially devastated. Better get that Life Insurance sorted!	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 08:48 AM
10	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke They want the benefits of a patriarchal man, whilst also claiming the benefits of feminism. In essence, they want all the good bits without the sacrifices. It’s plain old selfishness - which is brewed by society. Since they were born they’ve always been told to be selfish with their education, their career, their personal life. Dating apps are so skewed in their favour that they essentially demand a rich man who will still do the housework, whilst letting them control the relationship dynamic. W…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 08:22 AM
1	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke Who says romance is dead?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:23 PM
3	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke I’m sure she wants the man to do the housework, whilst also earning more than her. Basically doing both traditional gender roles. You have to laugh, otherwise you just despair. She’s pathetic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:21 PM
48	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke Women beg for gender equality whilst also demanding the most patriarchal man as their husband. What happened to financial independence?! Relying on your man’s money used to be a ‘power dynamic’ according to feminists - but actually is what they want? That’s the most attractive man to women? I can’t understand what women want these days. Seems to be a traditional, patriarchal man but without his role as head of the family. Instead, the woman always has the final say. Do these people think men don…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:19 PM
14	Gen Z doesn't agree with stay at home dads You would imagine the outcome of dating apps is women choose men for their personality, not their traditional male role. However, the stats show women find men who fulfil the traditional male role to be the most desirable. They want a man who earns a lot. They want a provider - someone who will allow them to quit working if they want. They want a strong, masculine man. They want someone tall and handsome. These features are typical of the average patriarchal man. Gen Z yearns for the traditional…	/r/MensRights	10/03/24 10:32 AM
2	If a lot of men can't get a relationship: Where are the surplus women? I have no issue with this attitude. The problem I have is when people have standards far above what they themselves bring to the table. If that’s you, then you’ll stay single and that will be your choice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/24 10:15 AM
3	If a lot of men can't get a relationship: Where are the surplus women? They said many, not most. I’m sure most aren’t, but many are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/24 10:13 AM
2	Late bloomer men should absolutely not date younger women Well, they can choose to be single.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/24 07:18 PM
4	Late bloomer men should absolutely not date younger women Two consenting adults can date each other if they want. They don’t need Reddit’s approval at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/24 07:18 PM
3	Late bloomer men should absolutely not date younger women Do you mind answering their question? Why would dating a woman their own age be better?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/02/24 07:17 PM
1	"more young men struggle because young women are content with staying single" -- except women are actually less single. Are you single now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 11:52 PM
3	"more young men struggle because young women are content with staying single" -- except women are actually less single. In addition, men are less likely to look for a relationship with a woman who’s older than 40. Maybe that contributes to women that age accepting their singleness?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 11:49 PM
1	"more young men struggle because young women are content with staying single" -- except women are actually less single. Who says love is dead?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/24 11:48 PM
1	"Hypergamy" is just logistical common sense. Who says love is dead? Lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 06:28 PM
3	Is passport sis a real thing or just a meme? Having a partner from a different country is not an offence, lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/24 10:23 AM
-2	Women punching too high in dating “Seeing a good looking man is almost rare”. Tell me you hate men without telling me you hate men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 04:09 PM
10	If women started approaching men, they would still end up approaching a minority of them I’ve had women approach me, but I’ve also had women complain to me that a guy they fancy is not making a move. So no, women definitely don’t always approach men they’re attracted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 05:28 PM
2	Why do you think Western Birth Rates are so low? Ehh, I know what you’re saying - but obviously the main benefit of having children is the joy and love you share. They aren’t necessary for survival, but they benefit you in emotional ways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 11:52 AM
8	Why do you think Western Birth Rates are so low? Very good point. What is the reason for this? I saw a study about Norway, saying many men are single. Why is that? They have high levels of income equality, with lots of social welfare benefits for families.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 11:29 AM
4	Why do you think Western Birth Rates are so low? Indeed, children were more affordable 70 years ago. What caused everything to become more expensive? Would a reduction in labour supply increase wages?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 11:07 AM
4	Why do you think Western Birth Rates are so low? This is a recent thing - trends in the 20th Century show people wanted children. What happened to change this? Children have always been a big investment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 11:04 AM
6	The double standard of relationships with wide age gaps If the story of Emmanuel Macron and his wife had been a gender reversal - the man would have been jailed long before they got married. It’s actually sickening she isn’t in prison.	/r/MensRights	27/12/23 12:01 AM
2	Strong Independent #8849223 wonders why her success doesn't attract successful men. Most men work hard to earn a lot, because they want a family. They want children with their loving, supportive wife. If these guys are so wealth and successful, whilst would they date a 36 year old woman? If managed to have children in her late 30s, they’d likely be disabled. If I’m an attractive, wealthy, successful man - this woman is the last person I’m dating. I’m going for the women in their 20s who are keen to date older men. For a woman who’s supposedly so smart and capable, after 36 year…	/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen	09/12/23 03:16 PM