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| – | CMV: Looks matter more for women, social skills matter more for men.For casual hookups especially woman tend to be substantially pickier than men about looks. But for long term dating it seems to switch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/25 11:34 AM |
| 10 | LVM saying they prefer non-virgins but yet claiming to be “secure” is counterintuitive.You’ve slept with multiple virgins and not married them, and hence ruining them by your logic from partnering and bonding. You do see how men that think and act like you create the problem in that you disincentivise women from being virgins and reduce the pool of virgins. I know women who are virgins and trust me there are very few benefits for women to wait and you prove it- makes them naive and very attached. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/25 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Society upholds women’s standards of men more than men’s standards of women, because women’s ideal man is someone broadly admired and socially successful, while men’s ideal woman is someone valued almost exclusively by her romantic partnerWho creates this ideal? How have you determined it exists and is universal? I’d argue many communities and individuals have varied preferences - including values based. Also, you claim men want this but it’s likely a niche of men at best. Plenty of men send their money and attention to women that are nothing like what you described. And the type of woman you describe is likely easily taken advantage of and/or abused - may end up a single mother. I also think most people don’t live in a fictional… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 01:00 AM |
| 9 | Women on this sub make it sound like they're single because they're unwilling to compromise on being in a great relationship, but in reality they're single because most men don't want themSure, a good looking but dumb guy is probably useless for anything more than a hookup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/25 05:58 AM |
| 6 | Women on this sub make it sound like they're single because they're unwilling to compromise on being in a great relationship, but in reality they're single because most men don't want themSure but my point is for each woman someone labelled a chad at a high level may not be compatible with her for any number of reasons. Those men are attractive and have more choice, and hence are more likely to find someone they are compatible with. However, lots of women are single because they can’t find someone that’s compatible with them, among many reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/25 05:57 AM |
| 11 | Women on this sub make it sound like they're single because they're unwilling to compromise on being in a great relationship, but in reality they're single because most men don't want themWhat is a chad? It’s so strange that people on here never seem to comment about things like values, goals, politics, finances and a myriad of other things. These keep people single. You want kids and the guy doesn’t, automatically won’t work - they are a hardcore conservative and libertarian and you are economically and socially on the left and progressive it won’t work. They need to move for work frequently and you can’t for your job, again might not work. Someone would not be Chad to me if we … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/25 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Losing attraction to my girlfriend because of her jobIf you are already having doubts it’s probably not for you and may lead to resentment. Maybe chat with her if a career in important to you. If you can’t get in the same page find someone more ambitious don’t listen to the average guy here. Most men value intelligence and women that have goals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/25 04:07 AM |
| – | Whats wrong with modern womenI mean you could also frame it as benevolent sexism or men relying on attraction to help others rather than just being good people to all. Edit: Provide a response if you downvote? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/25 05:24 AM |
| – | Men who have hook-ups, how often are you 100% upfront with the women?There are definitely men that pretend to have feelings and claim to want to date and it usually works on very inexperienced women. It’s very sad. Sometimes the women know they are deluding themselves but sometimes the guy is convincing. It’s like sometimes men will get used by women for money and in some cases the man knows what’s up. It’s sad in the cases where they have no idea and think it’s real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/25 12:24 PM |
| – | Men who have hook-ups, how often are you 100% upfront with the women?Whenever I can tell a guy is lying about his intentions is when I start putting in place more hurdles and timeframes. Usually, very obvious and easy to catch and saves. I really feel for women (or men) that are lead on only to be used for sex (or otherwise). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/25 12:10 PM |
| 1 | You probably should start caring about a woman’s careerThank you. The same men that want and need to use their money to date economically vulnerable or poorer women also complain that they are wanted for their money by gold diggers and complain about divorce / alimony. If you marry someone equal or wealthier than you financially it limits the risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/25 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Alimony Recipients Be Required to Do Domestic Labor.Plenty of women would rather have the kid alone or opt out rather than to be with someone that doesn’t value their emotional and physical labour and contributions which are not financial. Further, if the woman would have kept her job or made different choices it’s fair to provide alimony for an extended period to enable her to rebuild her life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 04:41 AM |
| – | Being able to have sex at any time is still a privilege.It’s not a privilege if it comes with the threat and risk of violence and sexual assault and risk of pregnancy. Again super tone deaf and idiotic. If men had to take risks they wouldn’t consider it a privilege - as it’s only the case for men as they get most of the upside and little of the downside. Ps. Men can increase sexual options if they are willing to sleep with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/25 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Being called a “mommas boy” had more negative connotations than being called a “daddy’s girl”Proximity to masculine is seen as good and beneficial. It’s why fatherless women are critiqued, men that wear dresses or are feminine or to close to their mothers (seen to be manipulated or under the feminine) and women who are Tom boys or masculine are much more accepted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 09:52 PM |
| 2 | People who prioritize “standards” before chemistry are delusional/self centered and often treat themselves as trophiesDoing better could be remaining single over choosing a partner that doesn’t align with important factors or feeing that you’ve had to settle/compromise tremendously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/25 12:07 AM |
| – | The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating marketNah. I feel bad for the women that have to deal a some gross guy to get ahead in life and find it gross if men (or women) use being a passport bro and dating abroad to be predatory and gross. Otherwise I couldn’t care less. Never seen one that I wanted and they usually have a reason they are going abroad in terms of expectations that I have no interest in meeting. Fyi. Excluding those that genuinely meet and fall in love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/25 12:52 PM |
| – | These are the women high value men choose: how does this/should this impact the kind of women average men think they can get?I've seen it happen more that you'd expect. However, the women are always slim, very intelligent, top students, fun, ambitious, put together and attractive in addition to partying. There was so much more to those women. Some of the men had casual and serious relationships previously aren't insecure and others are aware but don't seem to care. Its more common in liberal, open-minded and progressive educated circles. Throughout my life the women treated the worst and/or have the partners I would n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Women , would you hook up with/date someone who doesn't share your political beliefs?Yep. In most other countries a liberal is a centre right but I see how you mean it so was trying to understand. That helps. I’m more Hasan Piker than Destiny but I don’t really watch either but value both in their own ways purely from a political standpoint. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/25 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic womenYes, but there is much debate about the categories and also your family is typically relevant. In my view and understanding of the data it’s more important than most men think albeit it’s not the only quality people also consider other factors too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/25 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Women , would you hook up with/date someone who doesn't share your political beliefs?Doesn’t that make you a leftist and liberal? Liberal in most countries is conservative (centre right) as in classical liberal which often is pro-small government and prioritised economic freedoms, first and foremost, and promotes political freedoms if they don’t impact the economics. Hayek, Friedman etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/25 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic womenYour two points aren’t related. Men may be more likely to date and marry someone that earns less but that doesn’t not mean they don’t care at all about the type of women she is which is dependent on his SES he’ll want someone that fits in. As such, most men marry the women of same or similar SES although their incomes differ. They evaluate to ensure they aren’t marrying just any lower income woman is my point. One with a good family/background, usually fit/thin, educated, well spoken and present… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/25 09:11 AM |
| 1 | Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic womenI mean high earning men don’t get to define socioeconomic status. It relates to the home you were raised, your career, values and norms. Men do date down on income more due to various reasons including women earn less on average, take on more domestic and child-rearing labour (plus it influences choices). When I say similar SES I mean regarding upbringing, the type of schools, attitudes etc. You’ll often find those that went to expensive private schools marry those with similar backgrounds. I’d … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/25 08:54 AM |
| 1 | Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic womenAll I’m saying is it’s not unreasonable to assume that in smaller population of relationships with large SES and income differences that it’s more likely to be men that are “dating down”. Although broadly I agree people marry those that are similar. The issues is there are fewer women in higher paid industries, roles and in successful entrepreneurship pursuits although that’s changing. Also, women take on more domestic labour and are more likely to be the primary carer for kids so take that into… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/25 08:50 AM |
| 1 | Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic womenThey are different incomes but not status. Both could be raised middle class or upper middle class or upper class and the wife doesn’t need to work and only does work she finds enjoyable. This could be working in nfp/ngo, teaching, being an artists etc. She might still be educated, have parents that are married and well off. I know lots of women that did fine arts, gender studies, photography and married software engineers. They come from similar socioeconomic backgrounds as their partners and h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/25 11:36 PM |
| 0 | Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic womenYou can’t conflate a persons income or purely wealth with their socioeconomic status. Men are slightly more accepting of dating lower status economically but that is also influenced by men occupying most higher paid fields and positions and not carrying the physical cost of carrying/raising kids. It is changing though for women entering high paid professions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/25 10:10 PM |
| 5 | Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic womenIt does happen on rare a occasion like Cristiano Ronaldo met his partner at a Gucci store. This does tend to be something men do more than women but it’s less common now that women can access education and careers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/25 09:43 PM |
| 2 | Men don't care much about women's socioeconomic status, though if given the option may even make the effort to go for lower socioeconomic womenYou’re conflating SES with income. A PhD academic in social sciences and neurosurgeon could be married with a wide income disparity but could have been raised in families with similar SES - levels of education, holidays, disposable income, values, financial habits etc Men vastly outweigh women in fields like engineering, computer science and software development/engineering, entrepreneurship, investment banking and as CEOs/partners in law firms. These men may marry women that studied art or wok … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/25 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Losing your virginity "late" is far better than with the wrong personI broadly agree. However, it’s also something that people can really overthink in their heads and you can save yourself and it still be the wrong person or not the person you’d like. Do it when you feel ready and prioritise your safety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/25 09:24 PM |
| 0 | My friends GF broke up with him because he only has a part time jobPeople in poverty are having kids so I’d assume there is some possibility. If the relationship will last long term and be stable probably not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/25 02:31 AM |
| 0 | My friends GF broke up with him because he only has a part time jobOther women that make minimum wage probably will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/25 10:52 PM |
| 1 | My friends GF broke up with him because he only has a part time jobI respect his right to work part-time at 35. However, I have financial goals and ambitions which means that he and I aren’t on the same page (this is the case for many women). If that’s shallow so be it but I’m not jeopardising myself for “love”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/25 10:47 PM |
| 1 | High maintenance women get bitter at low maintenance women who are happy.Some are married women (happy/unhappy), some are religious women, some single and more. These woman may be miserable or might be trying to impart wisdom or could be happily married. I'm single and will never get a cat - I don't care if you have a ring or not. What annoys me is women that clearly value and want rings and weddings pretending they don't to be low maintenance and keep a guy when they have kids. It's women that martyr themselves and act like struggle is necessary. Marriage doesn't so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 04:19 PM |
| 0 | Women and their Disgust for PrenupsI mean it really depends on the couple and situation. If you both meet relatively young or with similar amounts of low assets I don't think its worth it given the cost. If you have a decent amount of assets (women or man) this starts to become more important especially if there is an imbalance sizeable imbalance. For women the fear around pre-nups often is heightened due to the prospect of having kids and fear that your partner is already planning for things to fail and this kind of documentatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Women and their Disgust for PrenupsMen and woman don't get half the others money just for existing. Just state that upfront to women that you want to have kids with so they know. Lol I disagree with your approach and would recommend any woman to run a mile away but best you put it out there and find someone open to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 04:06 PM |
| 1 | If the average man is in a relationship and has the opportunity to cheat with an attractive women he should do itJust accept if you are an average man the fact the you lose your morals, and risk separating your family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "It really happens. Life and people are complex and it feels nice to blame to victim/duped to feel some sense of control than hold those accountable that don't do their fair share. I don't agree with you in all circumstances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "Men and woman can certainly dupe others. I've dated men that hide their full political views, drinking habits and more. It was only much later that I discovered the extent of the issue. You know in some cultures and religions going to men's homes is not allowed... and people can marry within less than a year of dating or courting. Also, its not that people go from neat freaks to not but rather someone seems reasonable enough at the start but once you move in together and/or marry they start to p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 02:47 PM |
| 1 | The only women who go after obvious assholes are mentally ill, shallow, or assholes themselves.I know so many women especially religious that had never had bfs and were sheltered with caring fathers/male figures that would make excuses for rude/mean men. He just doesn't understand, he's socially awkward, he's just being straightforward etc. Immense people pleasers and doormats, and assumed the best in all. It wasn't until these guys dumped/cheated on them cruelly and they went through heart break that they became more selective. Sure, but again women with disabilities may be vulnerable de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "There are fewer women willing to date men that make less, in part, because more men earn more and women/men tend to have slight age gaps. But increasingly men can access women that are willing to be breadwinners it may mean being willing to date older women, someone that isn't feminine, accepting being more submissive, being in a career flexible, emotionally intelligent and demonstrating the ability to cook/clean/nurture. I know women in my circle with medical/STEM/finance/economics degrees that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "As I mentioned earlier that kind of dynamic may be possible where one person does more but people and woman should really challenge the idea of doing more as it happens far to often where they assume they can do it all, and date a bum, then resent them after kids due to the sheer weight of carrying everything. However some men also dupe women by pretending. It's especially common in religious circles where you don't live together till marriage and people can marry very quickly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "Okay, so you acknowledge its something subjective that individual couples have to decide on, and probably re-negotiate should things change considerably. I don't really see evidence based on that definition that woman don't contribute equally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "I'm a woman with a stable job and would not date a partner that earnt less and worked more but expected me to do more work long-term. I really think each couple should discuss these things. I hate cooking and cleaning. If you are an attractive man or woman and willing to be flexible in other areas you can date someone that makes more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 01:48 PM |
| 2 | The only women who go after obvious assholes are mentally ill, shallow, or assholes themselves.I would add to your list naïve/sheltered women, have disorders that may overlap but are not necessarily mental illness such as autism, those from traumatic environments/homes that have normalised this behaviour (can be trauma but also in some environments where violence is more prevalent it may be a logical decision to feel safe) and those who are duped (some people think assholes are confident/straightshooters etc.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 01:44 PM |
| – | Women are so quick to ask for moneyI know men that are the same. Either way just avoid mooches as they exist in all genders. Do you make more concessions for women as you assume they should be nicer or more giving? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "ok...how are you defining equal effort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "I don't think that I'd agree to that arrangement especially long-term of doing more based on who works more hours regardless of income. I know teachers, sales people, taxi drivers, retail, and more that work long hours. Can be an issue if you are self-employed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "But the effort is subjective to the individual(s) and specific relationship. Most relationships have numerous variables and nuances that make a strict 50/50 ineffective and both parties should decide a split they are comfortable with especially if kids are involved. How are you defining "effort" and 50/50? I can imagine an example where for example one partner eats more food or uses more heating/water etc should they pay equally towards the bills. If one person has higher standards of cleanlines… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 01:28 PM |
| 2 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "But what about if your partner chooses to work more outside the house, even if they earn less. These discussions are complex and not black and white. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "But how do you factor variables such as children as many women take more flexible jobs, work part-time or decline promotions in preparation for kids. How do you factor in the same SE if one person has a less stressful job that they enjoy compared to one that hates their job/highly stressed and working long hours - the partner that is less stressed may take more on in the home to help their partner till a new role is found or they may encourage them to take a lower paid role. Other factors even f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "Your second paragraph is so important to highlight. Its hard to know when its egalitarian enough and conversation should be had by couples to openly to prevent resentment. However, there are many couples that have a steep imbalance of labour and this should be questioned especially if the justification is purely gendered. And ensuring everyone feels appreciated and is comfortable in an arrangement. It may be easier for one partner to do everything but that dynamic can quickly undermine a healthy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 12:57 PM |
| 1 | Very few people out there actually want an "equal partner "It should be up to the couple to decide what works for them. I also agree that that an exact 50/50 isn't really possible and is inefficient and lacklustre way to live life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/25 12:50 PM |
| 1 | People who genuinely believe AMALT or AWALT are chronically onlineI know it’s so odd. Irl great relationships exist everywhere and with all sorts of couples that are decently compatible and complement each other well. All humans are flawed. I’ve not seen a relationship or person that I’d like for myself necessarily but certainly have for others. Certain people just go together so well. Being well off e.g. high income earners (financially stable) can ameliorate relationship downsides and provide stability and longevity. Socioeconomic status often correlates to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 11:07 AM |
| 1 | The Reason Getting Dates is So Much Harder For Men Is Women Won’t Look Past Any FlawsLol few older men are dating young and attractive women. Sure, older and more established men that have their shit together can be attractive to more people than their younger selves but as a woman I’ll never be desperate to date men, ever, maybe woman that want kids but many resort to donors etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 03:35 AM |
| 1 | Why and how do people fall out of love or "lose feelings" or "lose attraction" in a relationship?For many people who aren’t compatible due to religion, kids and other factors they’ll stay together indefinitely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 12:19 AM |
| 1 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADThe focus on n-count is problematic as it’s purely a heuristic for other important things such as values. Some religious and non-religious people value virginity in that case you don’t need someone’s precise n-count to determine if it’s a fit (question that matters is are you a virgin or not - do you value it). For those that want a lower n-count partner similar to their own - or a partner with similar attitudes to sex you don’t need to exact number to determine someone’s broader values and beli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 04:21 AM |
| 3 | Do women pursue attractive men just for casual sex?No guarantee of pleasure lol and again even if there is pleasure you are risking assault, STDs, pregnancy and more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/24 06:59 AM |
| – | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorSelf-awareness and context matters. Where you meet, and the circumstances do matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 05:14 PM |
| – | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorPlenty of guys do inadvertently want to be husband material, and many do become so. By husband material this means a guy women find attractive and want to settle down with as he is a great package. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 05:13 PM |
| – | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorAgain, I'm sure futures son who calls Russell Wilson dad and is raised as one of his own. If by legacy you mean a child, technically that is your bloodline/lineage, and a legacy is so much more than popping out a baby or impregnating someone. If future was my dad he would be blocked and deleted. But again, I only invest in relationships with parents that actually raise and care for me, and made choices in my best interest (such as not impregnating a bunch of women indiscriminately). I don't resp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 04:44 PM |
| – | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorYes obviously going forward should I happen to date again. :) I'm not religious or conservative so I'm not against casual sex morally, and think people should be free to explore - if they chose but also young people should be informed about the risks, costs and precautions - plus given every opportunity to engage safely or opt out entirely. Also, I think its fine for women to have different standards for different men, and for men to do the same for women, it is very normal. Dating is not an ega… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 04:27 PM |
| – | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorIt depends on your morals and values as a man. If you respect and admire future - and don't care about your legacy, and think beyond your pee-pee i.e. who will visit you when you are old, and stand beside you and respect you up to you. Again, I don't care. You have no idea about Ciara's personal life/trauma and the reality is she has an amazing husband who is way more attractive and better in every possible way that future who is literally scum on a shoe. Except he is winning. A successful caree… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorUnderstand some guys views and respect people’s right to chose - but it vastly oversimplifies dating and lacks any nuance (reeks of insecurity). For example, Ciara and Russell Wilson - they agreed to wait for religion and because she was more mature and in a position where she couldn’t afford to screw up as she had a kid - calling him husband material doesn’t take away from the fact he’s sexy as hell and she’d love to jump in and he has heaps going for him. If she has more self esteem aI’m 100% … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 01:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: more matches don't mean anything if they're all poor optionsPoor options is somewhat subjective as some of my friends are totally okay with out earning their partners or dating some less then ideal guys. If you really want a partner you can compromise or wait and search for someone better suited - this could be moving cities, or other intense things - I’m comfy alone so my willingness to comprise is like basically 0%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 01:10 PM |
| 2 | An average guy who is a good conversationalist has a greater chance of women treating him as "one of the girls" rather than it being an influence on their attraction toward him.My straight guy friends that’s are good at chatting with girls are all in shape, smart and fun - they all have no problem finding great partners to commit to them and be loyal long-term. Attractiveness, confidence and being a good partner can take you far. If you are unattractive/fat or obviously not straight that is where the issue occurs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 01:06 PM |
| – | If you are in a casual relationship, or if the guy is trying to avoid commitment with the usual 'Not sure/Wanna take it slow' excuse, I think ya'll should be more impersonal and not offer anything apart from sexYou just revoke easy access to your body and be impersonal and see other people to move on to someone that values you. Odd occasion you’ll convince the guy but otherwise you find someone better and become emotionally open. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menAll I’m saying is attraction can and does matter. It can really impact how people view you and how much nicer or more trusting they are of another person. It’s why models are usually beautiful or good looking to sell products. I wasn’t speaking to you personally but more generally highlighting how broad reaching this issue is. Attraction makes some men leave/lose their loving and amazingly loyal partners/wives and the mother of their child for a more attractive or younger model. Is very common s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 10:10 AM |
| 1 | John meets sarah and has two optionsMaybe the women you date and in your circle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 10:03 AM |
| 2 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menYou are telling me your dream woman is into you and you aren’t doing more than any other average woman. This happens to women and men it just looks different. Many guys will string along one partner for years without any commitment and promising her sweet nothings - and will meet another woman shortly afterwards and is ready to get married and commit pretty quickly. It’s a crappy situation and very hurtful. I can imagine it’s also crappy being an average guy and a girl you find attractive is wil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 10:00 AM |
| 1 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menDid they require you to wait or not? Most of my friends with average to low counts wait around 6 months or more (marriage). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menThis seems to be a risk regardless of whether your partner has acted on the attraction or not. They might find others attractive but recognise that it would be a futile pursuit so settled and married you. I think what some men actually don’t like is the thought of another men getting benefits or treatment from their gf/spouse that they themselves can’t or wouldn’t get. For some it’s jealousy, possessiveness, or otherwise. Most adults recognise their partner might find others significantly more a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:54 AM |
| 1 | This whole idea of "get with someone you're not attracted to because it's your duty as a citizen"But to culturally shift the landscape in effect is asking individuals to chose someone they aren’t attracted to potentially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 11:37 PM |
| 3 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI’ve never had an issue getting enough information on critical deal breakers within the first few dates. You have to make the other person feel respected and psychologically safe to open up by being non-judgemental, listening and being understanding. I casually ask about their life, dating history, goals, theoretical questions, and many other questions in a non-threatening way and most people share quite a fair bit. You likely are red flags to each other as you are not compatible which is totall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:55 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI haven’t investigated the data deeply and wonder how they control for self-reporting bias. Those who have lower partner counts may cheat less and might also be less inclined to admit they cheated due to stigma/shame, religiosity and other factors. Whereas those that are free about sex might be more inclined to share those things. But I guess if you are looking for a simple heuristic it works but if that’s a concern you should marry as young as possible to someone preferably in your community/sc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:42 AM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADThe thing is I don’t need to ask those exact questions to relatively quickly ascertain the answers. If you have decent EQ it’s pretty easy to make someone feel comfortable and ask them questions to infer that info. If body count matters you should marry or partner up as young as possible. Date in religious or small groups. Most men know their partners history and accept it - or they intentionally ignore it because they don’t want it to skew their view | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:34 AM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI hate the n count question the way many men hate the “how much is your networth or your income” question. No-one wants to be reduced to a number and often people want to develop some level of trust or intimacy first. They want to provide some context. If you are a male virgin and you are waiting for marriage this would be an easy topic to bring up. Otherwise, you can ask someone their values around hookups, casual dating and whether they would or do they think it’s wrong - it’ll pretty much pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 10:10 AM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADBut even a virgin can cheat… surely the best gauge is whether the person has cheated before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 10:09 AM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADSuch a strange way of thinking it’s like a woman asking you on a date how much money is in your bank accountant/investments and savings - your networth. There are many reasons why you don’t want to discuss that so openly until trust is built - and the same holds for body count. It can be a very personal thing and you have no idea what their situation is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 10:08 AM |
| 3 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADIt’s about basic social etiquette. If I don’t know you or trust you then I’m not saying much. I have no interest in my business being publicised or used for someone’s else’s amusement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 10:02 AM |
| 1 | Why do women make posts asking where the good men?What is a “good” man? It seems like a very subjective and vague term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 09:44 AM |
| 3 | Women hate the manosphere because the manosphere teaches men to protect themselves from women, which makes it harder for women to exploit usYou haven’t controlled for having children and motherhood/part-time employees. Sure the gender pay gap exists but it doesn’t mean all men out earn women - and often it’s due to the fact more men are in certain fields, in leadership or work full time. Plenty of women today are hustling and grinding. I’m mid-20s with $150k USD in assets, $70k-$75k USD salary package and looking to buy a place. Plenty of my friends are in similar positions and many out earn their partners but likely will go part-ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 09:10 AM |
| 6 | Women hate the manosphere because the manosphere teaches men to protect themselves from women, which makes it harder for women to exploit usMen earn more on average sure but again this trend is changing and where women earn less in many instances its exacerbated by having children. Again if you are a man use a similar strategy to women and only marry those that earn and gave assets equal/more than you - problem solved and don’t have kids (or be willing to take an equal hit). No-one is making men marry less financially equal partners they chose that often as they value other immaterial things in which case don’t be surprised it’ll co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 08:26 AM |
| 7 | Women hate the manosphere because the manosphere teaches men to protect themselves from women, which makes it harder for women to exploit usI’m a woman and literally: Marriage is usually disadvantageous to whomever financially earns more should they value their wealth. This issue exists regardless of gender and is a risk if you decide to romantically date anyone - you can minimise downsides by earning equal to your partner, marrying within your socioeconomic class/age and splitting labour equally at home with your partner. So this is a non-issue and where women care it usually when men want kids and/or women to do more domestic work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 07:21 AM |
| – | "you are not entitled to sex. It is not a necessity" is a bad argumentHousing and healthcare in many parts of the world are necessary as you can die due to poor weather, being unsafe in the street especially with children, being unwell can cause you to die… Whereas sex and romance is something that requires the consent of an individual. Use robots or pay for activities etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 11:44 PM |
| – | CMV: US women are entitled that is the cause for dating issuesIt’s not. Do you not understand that it doesn’t make someone shitty - you just feel that they are and feel you are owed a chance… when you are not. If someone is polite and gives you a decent heads up that they aren’t feeling it - that is a reasonable and fine for them to do and doesn’t make them shitty. No-one is obliged to go on a date or hang out with you and if they aren’t interested yes it’s sad for you but then you move on. People can and do change their minds. It’s literally not undermini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 11:37 PM |
| – | CMV: US women are entitled that is the cause for dating issuesThen by your logic it’s not an ass move to cancel plans with someone over attractiveness as it’s their own morals that guide them. 😆 Glad you recognise and agree that no-one owes you anything nor do owe them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 01:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: US women are entitled that is the cause for dating issuesIt doesn’t matter whether you are going after models or not. You are allowed to reject someone for any reason no matter how shallow or superficial. Cancelling over attractiveness is perfectly fine provided they respect your time. No-one owes you a chance or relationship or date… your view feels very entitled to other people despite acknowledging the fact you are mostly rejected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 02:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV: US women are entitled that is the cause for dating issuesThat’s all dandy and easy to say when you are the one mostly experiencing rejection. Also you literally have a comment in you history which implies you don’t want to date fat woman. So looks do matter to you like they do to basically everyone. Breaking plans or cancelling isn’t a problem in my view if the other person gives decent notice so I don’t waste my time - if it happens a few times on to the next. If someone cancels very last minute who I don’t know well = blocked - I don’t have energy o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 11:41 PM |
| – | Which of these men would you prefer to date?I started to wonder when reading these descriptions. Makes me so scared of humans like why present this set of examples and also scary that you could end up with a serial killer (thankfully it’s hard to get away with murder these days). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 12:50 PM |
| 3 | CMV: US women are entitled that is the cause for dating issuesIf a more attractive woman wanted to meet at the same time I’m sure you’d do the same. Is it shallow, yes, but frankly the majority of people regarding romantic and sexual relationships need that some attraction or chemistry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 12:38 PM |
| 1 | CMV: US women are entitled that is the cause for dating issuesAttraction is important for both parties - plenty of guys upgrade their spouse or partner for a younger and/or more attractive person. It’s not purely gendered and attraction often correlates to health and positive outcomes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 12:37 PM |
| 2 | Women don't really have high standards, they just like the exact same guyI hate when people use subjective terms like “high” or “low” standards - even things like “good” guy - it relies on personal preferences and standards. Very few men would fit my criteria of being childfree (not ever wanting kids), petfree (never wanting a pet), decent career, financial stability (e.g. can afford to live independently, saves for retirement/has investments, manages debt), has investments decent mutual attraction, compatible sex drive, easy conversation/friendship, similar life goa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 12:34 PM |
| 2 | Woman who want marriage should make it clear from get go and not give him years waiting for him to pop the question. There's no dearth of guys who would drag you for yearsThis is so true and it’s actually quite sad. Not to mention so many women want marriage and have kids with their partner who never bothers to make her feel special. What I’ve seen gets marriage asap is strong religious pressure and/or delaying sex till marriage/substantial commitment. Also be very clear about your needs and boundaries- otherwise many guys will not hesitate to waste your time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 12:23 PM |
| 1 | Are Age gap relationships that are EXCLUSIVELY casual sex still problematic to you?I think some women care because they have done similar things and want to warn other younger women as the power imbalance with huge age gaps can create some issues. It doesn’t mean I would ban or criminalise something just because I think it’s wrong or morally not ideal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/24 12:45 PM |
| 1 | Politics defines modern dating.The issue I’m not clear upon is whether they are against abortion for others or themselves. I understand people’s beliefs don’t fit neatly into political parties. However, you can’t stand for something being a huge problem in my view and contribute towards it with no shame. No-one will take you seriously. That’s my point. Also it’s entirely debatable where anarch-capitalism would sit on a political spectrum. They aren’t conservatives and certainly if this is your political persuasion you may vot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 01:30 AM |
| 5 | Politics defines modern dating.Liberal politics is about choice and freedoms to chose. Meaning you can chose to be conservative about sex or not want an abortion for yourself but not deprive others access choices. Liberal literally means freedom so it makes sense for liberals to individually choose ways of acting for themselves while not trying to force others to adhere. Conservatism is built on preserving traditional ideas and conserving the past. It argues for specific morals and ways of organising one’s self and society li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 07:42 PM |
| 6 | Politics defines modern dating.You know you need far more evidence than that to substantiate your claim and make a correlation or draw conclusions. You also need to define what a trend is, and how it’s being measured. How can you come to the conclusion women are being controlled by a political party but men are not? What logic are you using to arrive at that conclusion? The left serves issues that women care about more effectively and gives women more choice and agency it’s not complex rocket science. In turn, women are more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 06:39 PM |
| 5 | Politics defines modern dating.I think it’s far more common in profound ways for those that are conservative. There are many women that get abortions but then want to vote to have abortion banned. Many men that want abortions banned don’t like single mothers and yet want casual sex but also don’t want to pay child support… I don’t know what the equivalent is for liberals but would be interesting to hear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 06:34 PM |
| 6 | Politics defines modern dating.You can’t link a 1 hour video by someone else to make your point. If you actually understand that video then you can provide a short summary otherwise my point stands. Whether you are religious or not if you act in a way that doesn’t align with your values don’t be surprised people don’t take you seriously. Many redpill men are conservative only when it suits them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 06:17 PM |
| 5 | Politics defines modern dating.You don’t have to be Christian or religious to have basic integrity and stand by your beliefs. How can anyone take someone seriously that claims something is an issue but actively contributes to the problem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 06:02 PM |
| 9 | Politics defines modern dating.If you actually believe in nuclear families and think single mothers are a detriment to society and abortion is wrong then you wouldn’t engage in casual sex. It’s literally contradictory to all your values to a laughable extent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 06:01 PM |
| 6 | Politics defines modern dating.This is such as basic concept and yet you write it like it’s profound. People that share your values and politics will like you more it’s called ‘compatibility’. Also the more extreme your politics are the harder dating will be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 05:21 PM |
| 12 | Politics defines modern dating.So anti abortion and pro nuclear family but also engage in casual sex… doesn’t make any sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 05:18 PM |
| 5 | Politics defines modern dating.You could easily argue that many men are brainwashed to support conservative values… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 05:17 PM |
| 3 | CMV : There’s nothing wrong at all with modern dating. Women are just attracted to less men.It’s fair less dangerous or risky for men to have sex indiscriminately. Women are worrying about pregnancy, no pleasure and physical assault… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 11:52 PM |
| 5 | CMV : There’s nothing wrong at all with modern dating. Women are just attracted to less men.Most women aren’t on online dating sites though… far more men use online dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 01:39 PM |
| 13 | CMV : There’s nothing wrong at all with modern dating. Women are just attracted to less men.Many women enjoy sex when it’s good and their partner considers their pleasure, when it’s safe and when their reputation isn’t impacted. For most women the risks outweigh the benefits of having sex with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 01:38 PM |
| 10 | CMV : There’s nothing wrong at all with modern dating. Women are just attracted to less men.Choice for many women includes the ability to be single indefinitely. Men are competing with women’s peace and solitude, as most women have plenty of close intimate friendships compared to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 01:35 PM |
| – | American woman in Australia feels ugly because she doesn't get free drinksExactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 01:23 PM |
| – | American woman in Australia feels ugly because she doesn't get free drinksLol. Agree mostly naive and young women do this that don’t have money. No-one owes anyone a drink but let’s not lie plenty of guys buy drinks when trying to get girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 01:22 PM |
| – | American woman in Australia feels ugly because she doesn't get free drinksMen in Aus definitely buy free drinks if they think they are going to get some or the girl is interested/stroking his ego. I’ve seen it happen numerous times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 01:21 PM |
| – | American woman in Australia feels ugly because she doesn't get free drinksYou can get free drinks, Ubers and money in Australia if you are young and pretty enough… (don’t need to be a 10) you just have to flirt or connect with a guy. But it’s very dangerous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 01:19 PM |
| 5 | Women should take seriously the question if they want to have children or not early in life and stick to it to avoid suffering.There lives of women and children’s in poverty is not ideal and produces greatly adverse outcomes. The kids have more behavioural issues, less support, lower educational attainment, worse health quality, more likely to be arrested or imprisoned and/ or experience teenage pregnancy. Nothing about that is desirable. It’s not aspirational to most women and many that want kids want to provide them a decent standard of living. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 09:11 AM |
| 2 | Women should take seriously the question if they want to have children or not early in life and stick to it to avoid suffering.Millions of normal and average men are married and in relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 08:53 AM |
| 1 | Are hot women in their 20s actually interested in men in their 30s?I find some older men attractive for sure. I don’t know many single women in my age range of early to mid twenties that would or had dated a guy of 30 or older (unless the women had trauma, mental illness or other unique factors). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 08:09 AM |
| 1 | Do all men wish their current girlfriend was a virgin before him?I mean it’s about compatibility. If that’s for you hope you find / found them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Why do you require someone who is “college educated”?I’m not undervaluing a profession rather highlighting the values that are key for me personally in a relationship. I come from a family that values education and made sacrifices to give me a good education. I understand not everyone had the same opportunities to be educated or people have other aspirations (business etc) but if you outright don’t value education and learning entirely the we are not compatible. Your comment highlights the exact type of person I’m trying to weed out when dating. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/22 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Personality matters. If you think it does not you don't have itI’m speaking about myself not all women and having seen many nerds I think there is a huge spectrum. Not all nerdy people lack social and emotional skills but many do. Others don’t care about dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/22 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Why do you require someone who is “college educated”?The term “good money” is subjective but if was into dating then shared and similar values or priorities would be important. I’d want my partners plan long term. Educated or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 03:15 PM |
| 2 | Why do you require someone who is “college educated”?True. But it has huge implications if you decide to have kids as to whether your partner will prioritise their education and the expenses to give the kids a strong foundation. If you aren’t having kids it would be difficult to meet someone that doesn’t have a degree and for them to fit in my circles. But if they shared similar values and had a long term plan I could potentially overlook. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 03:09 PM |
| 10 | Why do you require someone who is “college educated”?True. I think being college educated reflects your values and priorities. I think education is extremely important and if a guy didn’t have a degree I’d want a good justification of how he was using his time and long term goals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Waiting till AFTER you meet her fam/friends before you have sex is the most ethical and fun way to dateMy issue with this approach having been around religious and traditional people is that people can end up so intertwined that they marry out of family pressure even when things aren’t working to not disappoint the family. As long as you wait till you are pretty sure then I don’t see an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Which of these two men are more attractive to women?Neither. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/22 11:01 AM |
| 2 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.So answer the following: 1) Define what you mean by feminism? Which scholars or concepts or schools of thought? 2) Engage the citation from Germaine Greer’s The Female Enoch. Does it have merit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 01:00 PM |
| 2 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.If that’s how loosely you define generalising then you are guilty of the same. Also you still haven’t contended with the argument I raised. Can you define feminism or which feminist or school of thought you are drawing from in your framework of feminism? I’m critical of many forms of feminism but also appreciate many feminists work. I don’t know who you spend time talking to but maybe you should try reading more on topics rather than being defensive and make actual cogent arguments. Good luck, i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 09:30 AM |
| 2 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.I’m not Asian and live in a developed country. I see people have autonomy and basic rights as pretty great. That Asian man should also decentralise women and romance from his life - While I empathise as I’m not Asian it’s hard to speak on this in any depth but in many Asian countries and cultures sex before marriage for men and women is extremely taboo. So I don’t see how this is primarily a man issue. In the West maybe the guy gets less girls but you aren’t owed or promised women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 09:15 AM |
| 6 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.Have you heard of asking questions? You could politely clarify my position before making assumptions and further you need to define exactly what you mean by a feminist. Many feminist and gender academics that I’ve reviewed their work discuss the impacts on men and the challenges of masculinity. They also use the term feminist in different ways. Fuckboy is about men that sleep around in unethical manners. I don’t think it’s remotely equivalent example to women wanting to hookup consensually and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 08:57 AM |
| 11 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.You’ve raise lots of great points and especially about the whole women expire concept which really is the biggest cope for most men. Sadly, they need hope and to believe women are devalued while they are better to feel good about themselves! I think it’s great women are being more aware of the risks of dating and of the type of partner you want - if any at all. You take care!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 08:44 AM |
| 6 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.Pretty lazy attempt at deconstructing my paragraph. Do you have cogent arguments or valid points to contribute to the discussion? You’ve got your mind made up and want to cherry pick so it’s hard to really discuss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 07:44 AM |
| 15 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.I totally empathise with being scared of men and it’s awful because spaces like the redpill reinforces my fears when I hear certain rhetoric about women. I agree that feminist revelation wasn’t the spark behind mine either rather seeing in practise views about women that can be dreadful at times. For instance, it’s shocking seeing guys try emulate psychopathic behaviour to get women or justify women losing their basic rights so guys can get laid. Along with examples previously noted. I’m just gr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 06:26 AM |
| 4 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.I’m actually in my early twenties and you are entitled to your opinion. I don’t really generalise only said that I just do what makes me happy and don’t centralise my happiness on men. I’m just exploring and chilling living my life trying to figure out what I want. Good day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.Yeah I’m supportive of men or women seeking out casual sex if that’s what they want and they understand the risks. We all need time to figure ourselves out and I’m supportive of taking that time. As I think it pays off. Personally, I’ll avoid casual sex and rely on sex toys/hands to satiate my high sex drive. Casual sex is often stressful. Thanks, and good luck with your journey. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 04:29 AM |
| 5 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.I mean just enjoy discovering myself and being alone to determine what I actually want out off life. I really need a couple years of peace, silence and flexibility. I’m not sure quitting is the term but yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 04:14 AM |
| 1 | Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?"Alternatively, you don’t seem able to articulate your point effectively and provide clarification which is key to communication. Have a good day. 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?"… which is a problem because? You can date women who aren’t young what is the issue for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 03:01 AM |
| 2 | Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?"My point is you don’t have to date youthful women you get to decide your standards… you aren’t forced to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Have a good day ☺️😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 02:43 AM |
| 1 | Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?"My point was in reference to the fact that you aren’t forced to date women based on what society thinks or that a youthful. It’s literally a problem created in your mind. Every day I see plenty of men who date and marry women that out earn them both have found a situation that works… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 02:16 AM |
| 6 | Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?"Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 02:06 AM |
| 3 | Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?"Your method of dating is skewed if you have to ask what a partner brings to the table. When I think about dating someone it’s because I admire them, we have great chemistry + connection, we are compatible and compliment each others lives and goals substantially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?One of the reasons why people are against marrying you is divorce - you have oversimplified your paragraph and it ignores so much supporting why progressive people marry later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Why aging women are less choosy than young women: oestrus cycles.Anything to back your claim? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 11:43 PM |
| 6 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.I’m not going my own way or in a movement. 😂 Just not interested in dating or sex - have you heard of asexual and aromantic? I’m not saying I’ll never have a partner but I’m sure my desire damped | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 11:41 PM |
| 34 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.Red pill made me grateful for feminists that paved the way for women to no longer be dependant on men and to have autonomy. I realise how fortunate I am to be in era where I can pursue financial literacy and independence, my education, my career and chose myself - my happiness, safety, peace and preferences as I don’t need a man for economic stability. So many women end up forced to pander to men and put up with so much as they can’t make it alone financially. It’s so sad. Redpill affirmed the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Low skilled under qualified workers settle for and accept low paying unenjoyable jobs because they have to, but they still don’t like going to work. It’s the same with partners.I wished they’d define things as these things are all subjective and if you love and commit to someone in changes things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 08:06 PM |
| 11 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.There are a plethora of reasons why the red pill specifically had a profound influence. So so many reasons and it really opened my eyes early in life thankfully. I can answer more extensively if you like later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:55 PM |
| 1 | What's your unpopular dating opinion? Something you truly believe based on lived experience, but would get down voted to all hell if you said it?Relationships are vastly overrated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:45 PM |
| 2 | Most relationships consist of people who are afraid of being alone…Yes, love this! Being alone and single is underrated. I feel confused and sad for people that think being alone = being lonely or unhappy. It’s far better than being w/the wrong person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:41 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men want women more then women want men, and that’s why we don’t care about your standards.Why is being alone bad? I dream of coming home to a peaceful house, having quiet time alone and being able to do what I like when I like. I’m stable financially and having a decent career plus friends and family. I don’t want kids and I’m super introverted not interested in sex or dating so I’m confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men want women more then women want men, and that’s why we don’t care about your standards.If I’m working to provide, giving birth, doing most domestic and emotional labour why do I need a partner? Many women want men with high incomes so they can focus on raising kids and maintain family expenses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Have you ever lost attraction to an ex and then regain it?Potentially, it’s complicated. I’m figuring it out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Why aging women are less choosy than young women: oestrus cycles.If you expect kids and your wife to do the lions share of domestic work you are not carrying your spouse on your back. I would argue you are creating a dynamic that’s mutually beneficial and enjoyable. Further men are often older than women in heterosexual relationships so that’s another factor in expecting a higher income - you have had more experience. Also women are increasingly becoming breadwinners and outearn their partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Personality matters. If you think it does not you don't have itYep, I’d categorise intelligence under being interesting. It’s very important and makes a guy substantially more attractive to me. I find people that read, are well versed on a subject/discipline and competent attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:28 PM |
| 1 | For anyone who has self-proclaimed extremely low standards, what are those standards?Why don’t you care if they have jobs? Is it because you can provide? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:25 PM |
| 2 | Personality matters. If you think it does not you don't have itI love that guys ignore this fact and yet it happens a lot. Looks are important but confidence, being interesting, easy to talk too and funny can get you very far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Sexless marriage is a form of abuse.You are always allowed to stop sleeping with someone even if they are your spouse and in return you can divorce them. Your wife may have not been attracted to you or there might have been other factors so I’m not sure I’d label it abuse automatically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:17 PM |
| 1 | If your partner is an adult and doesn’t live in their head in the clouds then they’ll know that your relationship can, will and should end if they’re not making you happy and vice versaI can unconditionally someone from a far while also retaining boundaries and self preservation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Many Christian men marry non virgins I don’t know why people think all Christian’s are so judgemental. I know single moms who’ve married great Christian men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Mostly because you are more likely to divorce if you marry young. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Just how weak is the average woman's sex drive?Mine is higher than most guys I’ve dated or interacted with sexually. I could have sex 2-3 times a day and it’s part of why being single is easier for me. I get myself off as often as I like and it’s amazing everytime.I can fulfil my own needs sexually and romantically which I’m grateful for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Are women allowed to do things without it being associated with ‘red flags’ or what men want?Love your life for yourself and don’t allow redpill to dictate your life. I know “good women” who did everything right by culture and based on red pill that had worse outcomes than those who made mistakes. There are no rules in life only do what you are comfortable with and what feels safe. If travelling is fun don’t stop because of some guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:52 PM |
| 0 | What's your opinion on men who are older than 30 dating women who are 18 to 25 in age?I’d find it strange but if they are consenting and strangers I’m going to mind my business. If it was my friend I’d raise my concern clearly and would be creeped out. I can’t imagine bringing a 30 + year old guy that’s go plenty going for him wanting to hang with gfs under 25. By around 24/25/26+ I wouldn’t bat an eyelid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:48 PM |
| 1 | It is easier for older men to date women their age, but the relationship requirements are too highIf you are both young and starting from very little it’s very easy! Agreed. As I get older I’m more set in my ways and feel less inclined to compromise on things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Their is no incentive to date as a manI don’t get this. If you don’t enjoy dating then stop. I don’t see why you should prescribe this as a solution for men generally. I personally am not interested in sex and dating for various reasons but I don’t blame men or try tell my friends they shouldn’t desire partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Why don't people warn men dating gets harder for them with age?I’m under 25 and cannot count a single person from my university dating a 30+ guy. I don’t doubt it happens but it’s not common and most age gaps are like 5 -7 years. I’d say most guys realistically if they are in their early 40s but in good shape, we’ll groomed and successful can expect youngest to be mid twenties. But average guys would be lucky to get a woman they find attractive enough to desire them let alone anything more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Why aging women are less choosy than young women: oestrus cycles.I’m more picky due to my financial stability, career and life that I’m content with but worked extremely hard for. If someone isn’t improving my life or benefiting my life then I don’t want them. I’m not carrying anyone on my back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Have you ever lost attraction to an ex and then regain it?I’m attracted to the fantasy of my ex but when I see him in person or photos the attraction is dead. I don’t want him or anyone sexually or romantically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:25 PM |
| 1 | The modern equivalent of a "strong, independent" women is unattractive to menI’ve rarely met men in their 20s-40s who don’t date educated women in recent decades. It’s extremely antiquated to think this way and most driven men want equally driven wives. It depends on location, culture and religion. Look at Candace Owens. She’s a conservative but had a successful career till she met and married her husband at 30. She’s not that typically feminine and gets into conflict regularly for a living. Meghan Markle was divorced and mid thirties when she married Harry after a decen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:22 PM |
| 2 | It's not about women vs men, It's unattractive+entitled vs attractiveI’m critical of men for vastly different reasons than you’ve listed but I understand your point to a degree. I think some part of the gendered wars is people projecting their own personal disappointments onto the other gender. My consensual dating and sexual experiences with men are mostly positive so I’m not jaded due to personal experience. I do hold space for many women I’ve seen growing up that were treated so badly by men whether they were stay at home moms, working moms doing everything al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Would you ever date a fellow PPD user?No | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:58 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?I’d be more inclined towards the 20 something guy. But I’m early twenties though so I personally wouldn’t touch a guy 30 or older sexually till I’m mid to late twenties. I’d only have sex with a guy (good looking or not) if I had insane chemistry, mutually care for each other, I felt respected, supported emotionally, he’s very interesting, better’s my life and he’s above average in other areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:57 PM |
| 65 | Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men.I thank god for redpill. It made me care 1000% more about my financial stability and pursue my own happiness outside of men. I don’t let what men or society think dictate how I live my life thankfully. I’m childfree and currently not interested in sex, dating or marriage so I really don’t have to concern myself with opinions from the guys I don’t want in the first place. It’s a peaceful existence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Women who give sex before marriage, especially if they are virgin, are plain stupid.All my friends with high counts are in amazing relationships and super happy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Women who give sex before marriage, especially if they are virgin, are plain stupid.I’m financially independent and don’t care about finding a husband as it’s not a goal in my life. I’ve had sex and dated out of curiosity but I’m not interested in what men or society think. I don’t want kids and never cared for marriage so I get to live life for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The average man's contribution to civilization exceeds the average woman's contribution by leaps and bounds.Ok, birth yourselves 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 07:17 AM |
| 1 | artist do not get girls unless they are famous or have money.You should do your creative thing because you enjoy it or feel called to it not for dating etc. It’ll be hard to monetise and as you get older it’s something you’ll have to consider for yourself if you are willing to not build retirement or second career. Don’t base your decisions purely on dating maybe around supporting a family but good luck and all the best with everything! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Not only is past promiscuity a good predictor of infidelity it accounts for twice as much variance in infidelity in women as in men.Which is… If you can determine someone’s promiscuity level than how useful is that as a metric? You’d also need to control for variables such as drinking / alcohol consumption, and other factors for it be meaningful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Not only is past promiscuity a good predictor of infidelity it accounts for twice as much variance in infidelity in women as in men.I think anyone can cheat including promiscuous people… that’s my point honestly. Okie calm down bro 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 10:51 PM |
| 1 | How many sexual partners have you had within the past 5 years?Can you provide an actual timeframe as it doesn’t seem to mean anything? Also I think it’s important to recognise you are anecdotal evidence. You seem to be a good example of why people shouldn’t date guys whom they see casually. I do think it correlates strongly with less committed partners and partners that value commitment less on the whole. This is different than a relationship not working due to huge differences or abuse etc. Just because you can do LTR doesn’t mean it’s a good bet and I ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Not only is past promiscuity a good predictor of infidelity it accounts for twice as much variance in infidelity in women as in men.Promiscuity is a really bad method as people can lie, they can not omit information and without much info it’s not very reliable. You’ve even acknowledged that yourself why using someone’s body count is not useful. You can never be 100% sure someone won’t cheat or leave. There is not formula for that although certain traits or behaviours might correlate more strongly. If you aren’t a promiscuous guy and want someone with similar values that makes sense. If you are doing it due to fear of a cheat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 09:15 PM |
| 1 | artist do not get girls unless they are famous or have money.All things equal, I think with Artists and musicians or creatives the challenge comes with getting older if you can’t earn a decent income. But it certainly enriches you and makes you stand out. It’s not a guarantee and doesn’t compensate for other important attributes but it defs is attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 09:07 PM |
| 1 | "Lower your standards" and "Why should I lower it to accommodate someone in not attracted to" seems to be expressed by the same group of people in the sub.Even if you focus on your looks being average how do you differentiate between a 5 and 6? It’s going to be extremely subjective and then if you factor things like how much effort you put into looking that way. Do you hit the gym everyday, count calories and wear make-up / invest in skin care or botox etc? Someone can be good looking but overweight and alternatively you can be average looking but have a great body. It’s not clear cut. I think most people want to be attracted to their partner and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 01:02 PM |
| 1 | "Lower your standards" and "Why should I lower it to accommodate someone in not attracted to" seems to be expressed by the same group of people in the sub.I don’t think most people suffer from this problem rather I think “average” is such a wide spectrum that it’s hard to gauge who your match is within the middle. Most people aren’t exactly a 5 on everything and also most people are competing for partners within a niche such as religion/tradition, socioeconomic status, educational background etc If you are below average looking, with a below average personality but a well above average career / income and education you may struggle dating. I think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 12:51 PM |
| 2 | If a maidenless man is a bad relationship choice because "there must be something wrong with him", then so is a woman who's had a string of failed relationships.Or bad at social cues lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 12:46 PM |
| 1 | How many sexual partners have you had within the past 5 years?Study how they end and how quickly compared to a more methodological approach 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 12:44 PM |
| 2 | How many sexual partners have you had within the past 5 years?Fantastic advice for all women in that comment. Past a certain age someone is still trying to do fwbs, hookups and one night stands personally think they haven’t matured at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you care whether or not a man has been “run through”?I don’t like that term for women or men it feels very gross. I don’t necessarily mind that my partner has had lots of sex but my issues would be more so around are they extremely extroverted, do they practise safe / ethical sex, have they ever cheated, how comfortable are they with monogamy, can they lead a quite / simple life for extensive periods by choice with no sex, are they having sex for their ego / validation or due to enjoyment and how do they treat women I.e. were they a fuckboy that’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 12:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: a woman telling a man he's handsome isn't really an indicator that she's interested in himYep, I know a couple of guys that I think are really cute, handsome or attractive. I don’t want to sleep with any of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 12:32 PM |
| 1 | Most couples are evenly matched, when they are not it is because there is either one party is depserate (causing them to go down) or has a desired trait (allowing them to go up)I think there is some truth to your comment although I don’t think it portrays they full picture. In part proximity and values influences your dating choices. You are more likely to meet a partner in your educational courses, at work or within your social groups so this increases the likelihood of finding someone similar and of a similar person fitting easily into your life. I think your point about exceptions is a bit simplistic as sometimes it’s not low self esteem rather not everyone is super… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 12:31 PM |
| 1 | How do girls not find guys who ask them out just after meeting creepy?I find it really odd and makes me really uncomfortable meeting strangers. It’s never worked for me 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Not only is past promiscuity a good predictor of infidelity it accounts for twice as much variance in infidelity in women as in men.You can tell when someone is on the extreme end usually of the traits but it’s way more reliable than promiscuity unless it’s considerably above average. Do they follow rules, have a schedule, like to constantly experience new things / get bored easily, are they reliable etc Do you ask every girl their body count or if they are a virgin? I think you’d be better off asking their view on cheating indirectly or if they have cheated. Do they drink? I’m a homebody and very loyal so cheating is very h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 12:15 PM |
| 1 | The only "80/20 rule" on dating apps is that 80/20 is literally the male-to-female user ratio on themVery few of my single friends party or go clubbing. Most of my friends that do have long term boyfriends now and my single friends are more introverted and usually don’t want to meet guys in that type of environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 12:11 PM |
| 1 | Men suck up to the “douchebag alphas” more than any woman. They have a skewed sense of what is attractive to womenIt’s hilarious but very true. The kind of men that men love differs drastically from what women, especially young women like. Unless they are with you for money or like Tate admits he’d find girls who he could basically get to do only fans - not your typical girl. Otherwise he dates in non-Western countries mostly it appears. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Men have it easier and harder in datingIt depends how you measure easier time dating, even if you are referencing the average. Easier = more options on average then yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:59 AM |
| 1 | Not only is past promiscuity a good predictor of infidelity it accounts for twice as much variance in infidelity in women as in men.The more important traits to look out for are if they have a high openness to experience and low conscientiousness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:56 AM |
| 1 | What age does it start to become 'weird' to still be a virgin? When does it go from "that's cute" to a red flag to a dealbreaker?Any age past mid-twenties I’d want to dig really deep into why they haven’t had sex. I don’t think being a virgin is inherently bad it’s moreso whether we are a fit regarding values and expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Double standards are created by a power difference.I think some double standards make more sense logically than others. But ultimately my pet peeve is people that have double standards for others but don’t like them being applied to themselves, very hypocritical. I think if you date superficially then accept then don’t complain when you find superficial people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:47 AM |
| 1 | AA/BB is a MisunderstandingI don’t think you can generalise for ALL women. I’ve never chased “bad guys” only chemistry and connection. I wouldn’t ever date or marry a guy as a “safe” choice unless we had very strong connection, chemistry and compatibility. I’ve never intentionally dated someone I think is bad tbh and usually it ends due to compatibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:35 AM |
| 2 | How does dating survive if more women are so picky?This. If you want plenty of options for hooking up as a guy then you’ll need to find ways to stand out significantly. But for dating or more emotionally committed relationships then the bar will be lower. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:27 AM |
| 1 | artist do not get girls unless they are famous or have money.They certainly do lol! If you are decently talented it’s a huge turn on for many. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:25 AM |
| 1 | If all good people are "taken" by their 20s and 30s, why do so many relationships that start early tend to fail?This 100%. It’s a huge gamble marrying someone at 20 because you can easily see someone’s trajectory change drastically. If I was still religious and more conservative it would be so easy for me to find a decent guy. My values changed heaps! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:24 AM |
| 1 | If all good people are "taken" by their 20s and 30s, why do so many relationships that start early tend to fail?I think you should be careful taking generalised statistics and data then applying it to yourself. Some get married young and it workouts the main point is the statistical probability is lower. I’d rather stay single than marry someone that’s a horrible fit for me and divorce later or end up in an abusive relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:19 AM |
| 2 | If women were less “picky” do you think you’d be in a LTR?Actually narcissism and being good looking can correlate as these kind of people enjoy getting attention, being good looking and are superficial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/22 11:13 AM |
| 1 | Do you women go through similar struggles like men go through?personally If you stop complaining then I won't have to worry about your *personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 04:09 PM |
| 0 | Do you women go through similar struggles like men go through?Maybe work on enhancing your communication skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 04:03 PM |
| 0 | Do you women go through similar struggles like men go through?Many people have dating issue from other genders so what is your point? Why are you raising that specifically? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 03:44 PM |
| 0 | Do you women go through similar struggles like men go through?I disagree. Plenty of men get married, have committed relationships and have children. On case I’ve misunderstood please clarify what exactly is rare? Dating can be difficult for numerous reasons such as what you are looking for, who you are, where you live, economics, race, religion, beauty, gender, personality etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 06:21 AM |
| 0 | Do you women go through similar struggles like men go through?… comments like this are why I struggle empathising with some men. It’s always about comparison - there are plenty of guys that have no problem dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Psychopathic men have an extreme focus on mating at the expense of other domains and tend to be “parasitic” fathersEven basic critical thinking should tell you a world where everyone is amoral is worse for everyone. A world where emulating psychopaths is a net negative to everyone. It removes trust, compassion and willingness to participate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 04:38 AM |
| 7 | Psychopathic men have an extreme focus on mating at the expense of other domains and tend to be “parasitic” fathersThis. Even Jordan Peterson had said pick up artists are psychopathic and encourage psychopathic behaviour. The red pill and pick-up artist spaces are awful because they foster an attitude that dating and sex doesn’t require morals. This just results in lack of trust and people disengaging from dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/22 03:41 AM |
| 2 | AF/BB:Never worth the wait?You too, all the best with everything. ❤️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 04:01 PM |
| 1 | AF/BB:Never worth the wait?Cool, totally fine with men doing the most to potentially sleep with me. It’s not about waiting but vetting simultaneously and giving yourself time. By not sleeping with a guy your decision making is on point and you get to really understand who this guy is as a person. I don’t care who the guy sleeps with as long as they pass a full STI test including bloods and provides proof when I’m open to sex but that’s not guaranteed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 03:43 PM |
| 1 | AF/BB:Never worth the wait?No guarantee if you sleep with him that he’ll marry you or be the one. So you can wait till you’ve vetted him and if he wants to go the door is always open. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 02:53 PM |
| 2 | AF/BB:Never worth the wait?You make lots of valid points. I think women definitely do treat men differently and so do men if we are being entirely honest. I wish more men realised that attraction isn’t the only reason women treat men differently. There are some reasonable and more complex reasons. Rather than trying to shame or control women men should figure out if the situation is worth investing in and if not feel confident to walk away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 02:37 PM |
| 2 | AF/BB:Never worth the wait?My view on bad sex is that in some instances in can be resolved and in others it’s a more pervasive issue. Just because we haven’t had sex doesn’t mean we haven’t kissed prior so to me if the sex is bad but kissing is great I’m open to working through that (performance anxiety etc.). Sex can be awful for women if the guy isn’t as invested, and for a number of other reasons. Research shows this so as a woman it makes no sense to me rushing sex. I’m glad you understand. I would never string along … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Most average males should not bother with most women unless they are really willing to lower their standards.Can you not join another church?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 11:23 AM |
| 1 | AF/BB:Never worth the wait?Exactly. You lose nothing by waiting as a woman and the longer the better. You see who people really are and if you ask relevant questions it saves your time, energy and stress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 11:15 AM |
| -2 | AF/BB:Never worth the wait?Sometimes you desperately want to but you also want to save yourself rushing into something with someone. If you end up dating there’ll be plenty of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 11:12 AM |
| -1 | AF/BB:Never worth the wait?I don’t see it that way. For me it’s simply I don’t want sex to influence my dating when it comes to decision making. If I’m waiting to feel comfortable with this person it simply means determining what he’s capable off and protecting my feelings. I want to know if he respects me and sees me as someone he enjoys outside of sex. That’s what I’m trying to determine while getting to know him. Bad sex can make you throw away a decent partner and good sex can make you stay with a crappy partner. Sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 11:10 AM |
| 1 | Dying alone is what men fear most, not women.This sounds reasonable. I’m more scared of dying surrounded by people that don’t give a damn about me. Being alone means peace and serenity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 11:00 AM |
| 1 | Men can’t complain that women find them ugly when women spend so much time and money trying to appeal to menOnce there are many women who do makeup for artistic reasons and self exploration. However, women also are well versed in the male gaze and appealing to it. If you have a certain body, outfit and other factors you’ll maximise your chance with men. Many men seem confused or annoyed that they have to appeal to women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:54 AM |
| 1 | "Men aren't entitled to getting laid!" is a lazy, intellectually dishonest red herring intended to derail discussion. The root of the difficulties young men face in dating is finding fulfilling romantic companionship, not getting laid.So many. It’s very different giving someone in poverty food, water, shelter or support then expecting women to be with you out of pity. Many suggest mental health support and shifting gender norms but that gets very little attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:50 AM |
| 3 | "Men aren't entitled to getting laid!" is a lazy, intellectually dishonest red herring intended to derail discussion. The root of the difficulties young men face in dating is finding fulfilling romantic companionship, not getting laid.Amen. Casual sex is risky, often not great sex and then you get slut shamed. It really has very few pros tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:45 AM |
| 12 | "Men aren't entitled to getting laid!" is a lazy, intellectually dishonest red herring intended to derail discussion. The root of the difficulties young men face in dating is finding fulfilling romantic companionship, not getting laid.Yep! They want empathy for their problems but cannot empathise with women and focus on things like a woman’s body count as a top priority rather than if she’s kind, intelligent, interesting, fun etc. They only want “virgins” or low n count women thus limiting their pool ridiculously or only want the most beautiful IG model women then get mad at women as a group that they can’t find someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Women’s dating issues are a result of a very very small percentage of men, and they attribute those behaviors to all menI would say it’s a much higher percentage of men and would actually believe a much smaller percentage are really decent. However, even if a small percentage of men are crap they obviously don’t have a warning sign and for many women it’s scary dating not knowing what he’s capable of. I’m sure men who’ve been through trauma understand. It’s exhausting vetting partners and trying to determine who is a good fit and many of us have come from less than perfect family situations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 10:33 AM |
| 1 | What's your "hot take" or unpopular opinion when it comes to dating?Yes. It’s frustrating otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 09:00 AM |
| 1 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsI meant the population who are dating and getting married. It makes sense why young gen z aren’t dating and I’m one of them. We don’t need too. Like if you find someone you really give vibe with it’s worthwhile but otherwise no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 08:59 AM |
| 2 | Men do care about earning potential and education in a woman, just not the same way women value it in men.I agree that it doesn’t do much for woman in terms of attractiveness to be wealthy or successful. It’s a nice bonus. I think women are more forgiving of wealthy men. Thank you hopefully I’ll get there! If I got married I want the money would be all shared except for what is accumulated prior. In my view a couple is a team. I think you can still have personal accounts and goals. Good luck with dating and whatever you are looking for in life!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 08:56 AM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?Women were still extremely unhappy before but couldn’t leave. In extreme cases they poisoned awful husbands, created accidents or the wars / dangerous jobs got them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:16 AM |
| 1 | Men do care about earning potential and education in a woman, just not the same way women value it in men.Fair enough, you are certainly in a minority. I likely couldn’t date someone that would never share their income or personal finances with me. It means they don’t trust me or think I’m shallow or stupid when I’m pretty down to earth, frugal and saving to retire early. But you do what’s best for you and it’s likely you have to be cautious. I think once my net worth increases - hopefully at least a million in my thirties I might be slightly more guarded. But I want to share money values, attitudes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:15 AM |
| 0 | South Korea’s Gender War And The Future Of Gender Relations In The WestThey are trash humans aswell… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:07 AM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?Women might want that but what actually happens these days as people are less traditional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:07 AM |
| 0 | Treating your partner differentI have already stated that this is something any guy who has an issue with needs to work with a psychologist or therapist to tackle their insecurities. Your comment in my view is irrelevant as it isn’t mutually exclusive. Guys on here are insecure that the “slut” who gave it away easy won’t do it for him and it makes them insecure and angry. Why? If they dig down deep they don’t have the ability to see women as human beings or empathise with them. Instead of having empathy for women being human … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 06:05 AM |
| -1 | Treating your partner differentI mean if he has time and money to waste. Most guys don’t make it to a second date so this isn’t even an issue. A guy can’t act right to have sex with me personally it’s more trying to determine if we are compatible, does he feel safe and is there a decent connection. It’s insane that we even have to bother that people are offended or feel insecure about this. You are deciding potentially your life partner so you put whatever caveats or stops you like it can be enjoyable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:55 AM |
| 1 | Men do care about earning potential and education in a woman, just not the same way women value it in men.I’ve never had to directly ask and my ex told me upfront pretty early how much he earns in total, all his savings and all his investments. I did the same and we’d discuss. He showed me all his accounts and it was never an issue. I wouldn’t directly ask as I think it’s rude but would expect it would come out eventually and likely long before moving in together as I’m really passionate and nosy about personal finances. I don’t think it’s a “gold digger thing” unless you are a millionaire which mos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 05:50 AM |
| 1 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?That means nothing to me as someone raised in a religious home just because a couple isn’t divorced doesn’t mean they are happy, like each other and that nothing awful is happening within the home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:59 AM |
| 0 | Treating your partner differentYou should go work through your insecurities instead of projecting your BS on women and trying to make them feel bad for setting a standard. If it doesn’t work for you cool walk away don’t shame women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:56 AM |
| 0 | Treating your partner differentI legit don’t care what reason you use to justify this behaviour. It’s so dangerous to women who should 100% trust your gut and take time getting to know someone and keep yourself safe at all costs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 02:26 AM |
| 1 | South Korea’s Gender War And The Future Of Gender Relations In The WestFirstly, I stated I’d challenge their ability to give consent much like if someone was drunk. It might not necessarily be a sexual assault but the consent is unclear and questionable. Ideally you’d have a choice. Secondly, paid labour operates with labour laws, contract, minimum wage and in many countries Western some kind of security net so it’s no entirely comparable. You can more easily move and the transaction is transparent due to laws in many western countries. However, many people are wag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 09:14 PM |
| 1 | South Korea’s Gender War And The Future Of Gender Relations In The WestThere ability to consent is reduced as they are in poverty. If someone’s choice is feeding themselves and their families or dating some random guy who they believe had money it’s pretty questionable whether consent has been established. I can’t see how anyone would enjoy this who has basic empathy or dignity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Treating your partner differentWhat does that mean? If someone isn’t religious they are likely doing it for other reasons such as safety, maybe they have more options and god forbid as we get older relationships become more complex. Peoples brains on average aren’t fully developed till 25 meaning their ability to see consequences is limited. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 08:58 PM |
| 5 | Treating your partner differentBecause they feel entitled to the same access to women any other man got because in their mind if you have sex with a man you are a slut and don’t deserve boundaries. You are an object not a living person to someone like this and all they care about is someone got to play with you. It’s delusional and ignore that people will learn from their experiences and they should. No woman should feel the need to put her safety in jeopardy for a man’s feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Treating your partner differentI think you need way more nuance to this situation and all too often hugs here went nice cookie cutter situations. Have they lied, has substantial time passed between interactions, do they engage in mixed dating, you’ve presumed their reason etc In real life things are more complicated and the guys doesn’t have to wait if he doesn’t want too. If someone is that worried then they can avoid dating people that want to wait. As I get older the less trusting I am,and more crucial vetting becomes. If … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 08:36 PM |
| 4 | South Korea’s Gender War And The Future Of Gender Relations In The WestWhether the woman can consent in this situation is what concerns me personally. Same with if I saw a guy trying to approach a super drunk woman who is alone or vice versa (girl groping a guy who doesn’t want it). Morality and ethics are important to me and I intend to keep it that way. I only engage in behaviour that meets my standard of right or wrong. I can’t stop you dating her although I dearly wish that I could if she didn’t want to be in a relationship regardless of whether she’s being tre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 08:14 PM |
| 0 | South Korea’s Gender War And The Future Of Gender Relations In The WestMy point is you can have whatever preference you like but we as a society do intervene when someone’s preference are deemed extremely immoral and unethical. Highlighting we do have standards. Also preferences just reflect what you prefer and some peoples preference are based on prejudice or racism. But I think most agree it yields no positive outcome to force someone to date someone they aren’t attracted too for both parties. What you are describing is not just a preference but someone wanting t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?Probably none unless I was at the point of being open to having sex and/or being in a relationship but by then I’d know your views of casual sex/sex broadly, women, religion, kids, money, and politics etc tbh. I’d have shared lots about me and my experiences. Either we have the same values or we don’t. Either we share a vision or we don’t. I want to screen someone and determine how compatible we are so this works for me not waste time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?Not for me personally dating-wise and hence why I actively screen them. But it’s their prerogative although it seems kind of shallow and unfulfilling but to each their own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 07:26 PM |
| 4 | South Korea’s Gender War And The Future Of Gender Relations In The WestNo seeking out women in poverty without options is personally super unethical and disgusting to me. What are you even talking about of course morality plays a role in dating most people aren’t psychopathic or narcissistic. That’s a false equivalency. We are discussing whether someone is vulnerable and so it’s more akin to pedophilia. We don’t let people date children just because it’s their preference so we establish boundaries. A preference doesn’t mean we allow you to act with no regard for mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?I mean you’ve just illustrated exactly why context matters more than specfic numbers or behaviours. This would be a huge it depends honestly. Weight isn’t automatically a deal breaker for me. Whereas religion or politics is no matter how attractive someone is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 07:15 PM |
| -1 | South Korea’s Gender War And The Future Of Gender Relations In The WestIt doesn’t mean you are justified in going to exploit other women with less options and who’s lack the agency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?Same feeling. I’m a big context person and really want to understand who I’m dating beyond a number. I want to know if we are compatible is important and what is this persons story. Someone overweight working on getting help and who struggles with depression but keeps working their hardest to lose weight is great if we are otherwise compatible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?Our philosophy on life doesn’t align that is where the “biggie lies”. I hate the idea of valuing someone based on numbers without context whether that be money or sexual partners. I’m happy to answer other questions and I am very thorough about sexual health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:55 PM |
| 1 | women like rogues not particularly alpha menEvery guy I’ve dated that does drugs always keeps usually low-key because I’m not interested at all and find it unattractive. But I don’t do drugs but if a woman is into drugs or addicted I can see how that would make him desirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:47 PM |
| 7 | South Korea’s Gender War And The Future Of Gender Relations In The WestTrue.😂 Sadly western men try get women who are vulnerable overseas and have limited options in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:38 PM |
| 3 | Does someone’s past matter?Many women are married to men that make less and look holistically at the relationship. Do someone still want or strongly prefer high income sure but it’s definitely shifted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?I know plenty of intelligent women and they do date date down in a sense but they still want a partner will goals and who contributes. Only some women complain many others find partner just later in life. I see women everyday at work married to men that make less it’s not a big deal. Cool men can do what they want and I don’t care to force someone to change their view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsPlenty of women date their equals or aren’t as concerned by their husbands income if he’s supportive if her career, interesting to talk to, kind and finds other ways to contribute. Dating is changing. Many people have realistic standards so I don’t see your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Do you really want to be the guy or gal with a high body count? Unpopular opinion belowI don’t think people are made aware enough about the risk of sexual assault in heavy drinking environments, prevalence of STI’s and lack of respect many men have towards women they have sex. Once I realise all the three things above on how unsafe it was even in relatively safe cities, how few people engage in proper sexual health protocols and how disrespectful so many men are towards women it has ruined sex despite me having a high sex drive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Are Old Virgins Unattractive?60 year old virgin included? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Why do women participate in the hook-up culture if they aren't getting the outcomes they want?Not entirely. Many women are more open to sex has birth control is available and stigma has reduced but also many women get lead or played. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:15 PM |
| 1 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsMy point is most people are average. It’s not going to be a profound difference for a woman with an IQ of 110 to date a guy with an IQ of 102. How you measure IQ does matter immensely as it helps understand what is being considered? An extremely high IQ doesn’t help men get sex maybe relationships but IQ doesn’t measure lots of things which can make someone attractive as a partner - you also have to consider there are different kinds of intelligence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Why do women participate in the hook-up culture if they aren't getting the outcomes they want?You can have baggage with an n count of 1 or even 0 tbh. But you also do what’s best for you and feels comfy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: If women are only attracted to hot and/or wealthy men then why are the majority of men still able to find relationships?Do people not go outside and see people everyday are dating others in similar spaces and in close proximity? In fact will date and marry / have kids with some of a similar socioeconomic class, race, religion, values etc. By default most people have kids or date average people like themselves and like unremarkable lives | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsYou don’t have to be hot to be athletic and body is controllable. So if a guy wants to stand out that’s already an area for improvement. Do you know what IQ actually measures - like what construct? It’s important but if you are within one or two deviations the difference isn’t profound. Further, IQ often measures how quickly you learn, spatial and cognitive abilities, alongside your socioeconomic background. IQ doesn’t tell me whether you are gifted musically, extremely well read/travelled, kind… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?Fair enough, I’d wager you are very likely an exception in how you interpret RedPill content. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:44 PM |
| 1 | What is your opinion on men who will not marry women whose parents are divorced?Ultimately I really don’t care. But I think it’s an oversimplification what you should screen for us a healthy relationship between parents or someone who acknowledges it wasn’t a healthy relationship and has gotten therapy to work through that. Someone can come from a two parent home that’s day functional and so you want to determine that the other person understands and can engage in healthy relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:42 PM |
| 1 | So how do I vet women to make sure they have their head on straight before getting with them?Saw your comments lol. I am dying and cannot believe how cringe this post is honestly. I hope you are like 10 or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?The fact men need to be told that is insane and don’t see why red pill spends so much time talking about hypergamy and spinning plates. Shouldn’t it be career advice, finances, investing, grooming etc. Seems like 90% is just talking about women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:34 PM |
| 2 | So how do I vet women to make sure they have their head on straight before getting with them?😂😂😂 Right, I legitimately cannot with OP! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?Lol what is the original purpose? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:28 PM |
| 1 | So how do I vet women to make sure they have their head on straight before getting with them?Many of them don’t. You can date casually and then when you feel ready for a relationship date with more intention. I don’t think you’ll have an issue avoiding such people and many decent women as well. You seem like an annoying person and from your own comments you don’t have a job… why are you bothered about what women are doing? 😂 You are barely a catch and out here so worried about dating and what women are doing. Good luck to your future partner! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:26 PM |
| 2 | Does someone’s past matter?I don’t care and that’s such depraved thinking. The end doesn’t justify the means and people like this need serious help. The RedPill isn’t what they need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Women and trauma; men are not your therapists.Your post is quite dangerous in my view while people shouldn’t put up with abuse or anything that makes the feel uncomfortable people with trauma are perfectly entitled to set boundaries. I think people should address their trauma and be healthy emotionally however it’s important to have a partner that’s self aware, compassionate and willing to work with you. Someone who experiences trauma might realise they want to vet people more thoroughly before they have sex and might wait much longer. You … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "I'm ugly" is just an easy out for men who can't understand the complexities of human relationshipsYep if you approach radon women what do you expect the outcomes to be? Is it sad sure but no-one is forcing you to ask people out in that situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:12 PM |
| 2 | Does someone’s past matter?RedPill plate spinning attracts women from a certain bubble of clubs, festivals, drugs and partying where women are who are the outliers sexually are common - they hyperfocus on these women and generalise them as the norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:08 PM |
| 3 | Does someone’s past matter?Oh totally agree. There is much more breadth in experiences 100% and many are lower that guys here often cite. Yes 20+ by 25 is not common generally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:05 PM |
| 0 | Does someone’s past matter?We were discussing virgins so only women with no partners. Past a certain age being a virgin when you aren’t religious begins to be concerning like are you not attractive, asexual, or something else. I cannot think of many women who are straight, not religious and like sex who haven’t been with at least 1 guy. I get not being religious but still wanting sex only within a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:02 PM |
| 1 | So how do I vet women to make sure they have their head on straight before getting with them?You conflate bad guys with being assertive. Most women want confident and assertive guys who are attractive. Those traits sadly can apply to awful men too. Maybe in YouTube women speak like that but I have never met a woman irl want a bad guy. I think some of my friends don’t like boring guys but that most refers to not being adventurous and open to experiences. There are different bubbles of women and I don’t see many educated women dating thugs. Totally fine to not date women for being shallow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:57 PM |
| 2 | What is something you genuinely find 'weird' and don't understand in modern dating/relationship/gender world?We literally hide and are homebodies usually. Not involved in many activities and have small group of friends of hang with our families. I legit avoid men all the time outside of a work context unless they are family/treated like family. Most of my guy friends are like little brothers to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:49 PM |
| 1 | What is something you genuinely find 'weird' and don't understand in modern dating/relationship/gender world?How much people care about dating and having sex? It shocks me the obsession some men go to just to sleep with people and have relationships this weird double standard many guys still hold about women. I’m really unbothered about dating and coming on here among other Redpill / manosphere spaces affirms that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Does someone’s past matter?Yes, many good points. It's often the hypocrisy but also people seem to make their lives unnecessarily difficult. If you aren't religious and a virgin maybe expand your options to someone with 1/2 partners or that's understanding and will be supportive. It's strange seeing guys complain that they can't find virgin women when they aren't virgins and usually don't want to wait till marriage but equally perplexing seeing guys that aren't religious demand virgin partner's who don't have strong relig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:35 PM |
| 1 | So how do I vet women to make sure they have their head on straight before getting with them?There is a much more balanced approached you seem to view things in such a black and white lens. - She either likes bad guy or not. How about attractive men that seem safe, secure, well put together? Sometime women get conned by guys that appear nice too but doesn't mean that's her type. - Don't want single mother or trad wife or someone that had a wild phase, don't want a feminist ... sorry what exactly did you want in a woman? You never seemed to articulate what you wanted simply rant about wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:28 PM |
| 2 | Does someone’s past matter?Well this doesn't make sense for many in a modern society. Many woman are financially stable / independent thus not needing to prioritise a man for finance's and can engage in sex as she pleases (might be 0, 3, 10, 20, 40, 50, 100+). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:23 PM |
| 1 | the values and negatives of the red pill, how it can be a valuable stepping stone to become a better man, but you must be aware of it's limitationsWhat even is the redpill? People struggle to define it and thus conflate very different concepts together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:20 PM |
| 1 | the values and negatives of the red pill, how it can be a valuable stepping stone to become a better man, but you must be aware of it's limitationsHaving been in RedPill and manosphere spaces I've now completely lost interest in dating or sleeping with men. If you can't see the dangers of RedPill ideology for men then I can't help you. :') | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Some guys prefer to be marriage material, some girls prefer to be hookup materialNot being rude but I have a friend like this and she has lots of options for guys so unless a guy is exceptional she doesn't want to commit and miss out. She will tell someone that or seek more open situation until she finds someone that is exactly what she wants - she's very dominant in life and not easily swayed. Doesn't mean she prefers being hook-up material but you are at least you realise not every woman is desperate for a relationship or for any guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?If you are not religious obviously. In religious settings they are so common-place same as women with only under three partners. Usually, they want to get married and expect someone to meet high standards to date or marry them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:11 PM |
| 3 | Does someone’s past matter?This is a great comment and reflects my views on the matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?It makes even less sense logically but do whatever you like. At least with religion the whole premise of logic and reason can be suspended as it's based on faith. I don't understand the point of having such a stringent and unmoveable position if you aren't religious but as I said before there is no point deeply discussing that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:08 PM |
| 1 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsIt depends on the way and what factors she's considering. Many women find athletes/athletic guys or models attractive even if they have a below average IQ. Some women like men into art, others like guys who are funny, others like guys who are kind/interested in humanity, others like guys who family oriented and work hard etc. You'll find people in similar careers, hobbies, backgrounds often end up drawn together. In my view: - I don't care if a man earns below average wage as long as he's workin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?You have every right to want to know someone's past before engaging in with them romantically and sexually - to discount them which is why I agreed stating: Yes. I don’t think you can entirely ignore it honestly and it would be stupid to do so. My personal opinion: However, I think where my frustration lies is in placing value of the number of partners vs attitude/values. I respect not everyone has or shares my personal views. Therefore in this case someone that wants my body count directly woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?I'm so confused... If he's bi-sexual and consented to that genuinely it isn't something I'd care about over shared values, politics, STI's, ethics, character and other factors. If we have those in common sure. I'd be worried if my partner was having sex to boost their ego like I've seen guys do and act really gross with other men or treat women/minorities badly etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?You are more than welcome and within your rights to have that opinion. I also have plenty of friends / family who are religious and I was raised religious so I totally respect others views. However, I disagree and it frustrates me when people have a strict adherence and method of approaching dating which is also my right to have that opinion(could go into this more deeply). Religion is a huge deal-breaker for me personally. So yes this is also about compatibility for me as well but I have also v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:49 PM |
| 1 | To those who want virgin partners - why?I can empathise with guys who are also virgins and think it's reasonable they want a partner with similar experience. But I would encourage they have a less stringent approach if they are seeking a lifelong partner and aren't religious. It can really do you harm to limit yourself to so few options especially when there isn't a strong conviction underpinning it and then you see resentment from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:34 PM |
| 2 | To those who want virgin partners - why?As a woman that's had sex you are perfectly valid for wanting that and I understand that. I hope you find your person. <3 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:31 PM |
| 1 | To those who want virgin partners - why?That is a pretty reasonable to want someone with similar experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?What does that even mean? I mean as a straight woman if I was dating a bi-sexual guy and he had no STD's, was responsible sexually - it wouldn't bother me. I'd care more about someone cheating, being abusive/toxic relationships, treating people decently, are we compatible / want the same things, are our values aligned etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:28 PM |
| 1 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsI entirely agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:25 PM |
| 1 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsI personally think women find most men physically unattractive but attractive as partners much more easily as men get valued on a broader range of things such as career, fit, confidence, education, social group, stability, smart etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:24 PM |
| 1 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsThis isn't necessarily a correct assessment. Men might reduce their standards to access sex but many guys would be willing to leave for a better option. Some women understand this and would rather remain single than be with a guy that feels he settled just for sex. They only want guys that truly adore them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:21 PM |
| 1 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsHaving high standards is perfectly fine if you are okay remaining single forever. If someone wants to get married or be in a relationship desperately then they either need to be more flexible or find ways to be more desirable to their ideal mate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?That is my personal view and how I engage in dating alongside my view on the whole n count / body count. I understand that not everyone thinks like me and respect that (you see how I clearly say I). If someone is a virgin but cheated on her previous partner by kissing another guy or is asexual or has sexual trauma or can't attract guys/extremely picky or is waiting for marriage for religious reasons pretty sure that context is useful beyond the exact count. In my view only the most low quality g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?We both agree what are you debating about? That's totally reasonable. We likely aren't compatible if someone is very hung up about sexual history measured in the form of body count which is fine and life. If they aren't rude about it then it doesn't offend me in the slightest that someone has a preference or standard I don't meet. That's life. Most guys who genuinely value this will ask my views on casual sex, if I'm religious and are respectful. That's a much more intelligent way to gauge someo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Men do care about earning potential and education in a woman, just not the same way women value it in men.I don't think someone asking your income on the first date makes them a gold-digger rather someone that likely wants to determine whether you can support a lifestyle they want. However, I think it can be rude to directly ask someone that on a first date but incomes need to come up eventually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?Can you read? My initial response to the question "Does someone's past matter": Yes. I don’t think you can entirely ignore it honestly and it would be stupid to do so. I don't owe anyone a direct answer and any guy can chose to leave if that's a problem. I prefer things come out in a conversation with context and don't need to discuss anything that makes me uncomfortable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Men do care about earning potential and education in a woman, just not the same way women value it in men.You are likely a doctor (or some other high paid career) but very few men actually have the ability to make such a demand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Men do care about earning potential and education in a woman, just not the same way women value it in men.What does this even mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Men do care about earning potential and education in a woman, just not the same way women value it in men.Some men still want this and I've seen families that basically end up living pay-check to pay-check facilitating this dynamic OR thorough planning prior to having children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Men do care about earning potential and education in a woman, just not the same way women value it in men.This sounds extremely smart and what is common in many high income families these days honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Men do care about earning potential and education in a woman, just not the same way women value it in men.Yep, I agree with this sentiment broadly. I think men are much less hang up about a woman's education and career compared to women. However, men are more likely to shift standards for a woman based on how attractive she is when it comes to a relationship. Whether that be education, career, sexual partners or other factors being attractive can be alluring. This is the key factor driving men unless they are religious or have strong cultural expectations in my view. Being a virgin is useless to man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 02:41 PM |
| 0 | Does someone’s past matter?While it's his private info if he doesn't disclose, provide context, or can't answer general life questions about his values and a plan etc it's immediately next. I've nexted at least 5 guys that I was pretty interested in part due to these issues (all very attractive guys). One guy wanted 4 kids but couldn't present a reasonable timeline, ability to afford such kids, wasn't working/student and had basically no plan. He also annoyed me by trying to play games and hot/cold BS. Blocked and deleted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?Usually people bad with money don't have a plan for their finances that is well detailed including their retirement plan. They don't know anything about investments/maximising savings. Usually they will have credit cards (huge red flag) and often have positive views on debt. It's unlikely someone has a gambling problem and owns a house - saves for a deposit. The other important part is not dating rando's and people not vetted by a social circle / friends / work mates etc. Before marriage and liv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 02:22 PM |
| 0 | Does someone’s past matter?Well usually I'll ask things around their plan for retirement/have the heard of financial independence retire early, do they own/rent where they are at, look at the kind of car they drive, ask if they travel, look at the kind of dates we go on, what are their hobbies/friends like, if they are employed, what profession, if they have investments/interested in investing, their lifestyle, ask about their family, views on education etc. It's pretty easy. I'm usually pretty accurate and rarely wrong. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 02:16 PM |
| 1 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?I know a few that likely have 50+. They've had plenty of guys that are more than happy to marry them and they are close to model level beautiful, smart, successful and basically the total package. I'll be honest often women who've broken the rules in my view and slept around and some who aren't think who have found the amazing boyfriends/husbands. Guys who dote on them, have great jobs, in-shape, loyal, smart, loving and decently attractive. As long as this is a reality observed by women they'll… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:52 PM |
| 1 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?Unless she's like me and part of ultra-religious waiting for marriage circles and people that drink/party/do drugs have slept with 50+ people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:49 PM |
| 1 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?You are likely in a bubble no offence. High n count people often find each other and are in similar circles (namely going out and drink). It's like people who do drugs and assume everyone does just because in their circle everyone has. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:48 PM |
| 1 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?I think this clicked for my ex. One of our close girl friends was decently good looking and never seemed interested in dating and seemed to reject most advances. She is a virgin because she is likely asexual and has zero desire. Some guys on here would be celebrating they found a virgin only to realise she never wants sex. Like ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:46 PM |
| 1 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?As a 23F, I have friends from 0 (never kissed, held hands, hugged a guy) to like 50+ probably. But if you took an average it would be quite low most being 3-5. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:43 PM |
| 2 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?This is quite common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:40 PM |
| 2 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?I'd also wager higher count people are correlated with things like trauma, adhd/asd, mental illness and other factors which may generally make relationships difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Men say they want virginsYES. If someone desperately wants a virgin and they aren't religious or a virgin themselves it's a huge red-flag. I have seen many women who waited for marriage and their husband only to have an abusive / awful partner who knows this women won't leave. This is so common in religious circles. From a young age I never respected religion for this exact reason. I have no regrets with my choices and no amount of conservative or redpill propaganda will make me believe being a good woman guarantees a g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Men say they want virginsAdditional reasons: 1) They have a very low sex drive and have barely any interest in their husbands or other guys. 2) Many others are religious and it's a sin. 3) They only want sex within the confines of a relationship. 4) They are unattractive and virgins so they have limited options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Men say they want virginsI have a friend who is asexual and a virgin. I also doubt she'd cheat as she has no desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Men say they want virginsThis goes for men and women which is typically why virgin women want to marry virgin men who share the same values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:06 PM |
| 1 | Men say they want virginsIt correlates but it's not a guarantee exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:04 PM |
| 2 | Men say they want virginsI think it's not as common as OP is making it out to be although I've definitely seen it happen. I also agree having a higher n count correlates with being more likely to cheat but it's only one factor. If you just screen for n count and ignore context that's also stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Men say they want virginsOr maybe she's asexual like my friend or waiting for marriage the others to a religious guy whom she respects and is compatible (she has rejected a few) or maybe she values sex highly and wants a similar partner. Very few women are waiting and saving their virginity specifically because men like it usually it's for themselves or religion or they can't get sex or afraid etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 01:00 PM |
| 2 | Men say they want virginsInversely, the women I know who were virgins that waited for the one got their hearts broken or dumped - are perpetually single or got married but had to make sacrifices. I really don’t envy either extreme side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:50 PM |
| 3 | Men say they want virginsThis often a case of immense luck. I know many women like this who waited for months / years with their bfs thinking he was the one and then lost their virginity only for the guys to dump them “to explore other options” it devastated them. In an ideal world many of would meet our one true love and only sleep with them. Except life is more complicated and even waiting till marriage has no guarantees you’ll last forever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:46 PM |
| 1 | What do you think the average bodycount is for a 25 year old college girl in 2022 ?This is what I don’t understand. I know so many women with counts of 1, virgins or only a few partners. Many are married or in very committed relationships. I often find they are decently religious or found a partner early whom they felt compatible with which is lucky. Red pill hyper-focused on a very select few women and engage in confirmation bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:43 PM |
| 1 | What's your "hot take" or unpopular opinion when it comes to dating?If you are secular and don’t want to date, then there is no reason too. I’m sure plenty of secular men want to date or enjoy it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:38 PM |
| 2 | What's your "hot take" or unpopular opinion when it comes to dating?It depends honestly. I can see a both sides and sometimes someone hasn’t ghosted you they just might not have energy/time to respond. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:37 PM |
| 2 | What's your "hot take" or unpopular opinion when it comes to dating?You need to present evidence to support these claims. Most evolutionary psychology is flawed science and the findings which they draw conclusions on can have multiple different interpretations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:34 PM |
| 1 | What's your "hot take" or unpopular opinion when it comes to dating?Yep! Fantastic prolifetip. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:29 PM |
| 2 | What's your "hot take" or unpopular opinion when it comes to dating?What does these even mean? How are you defining liberal and conservative? Just because you want the freedom to do something doesn’t mean you have to do that particular thing. I want more lax laws around illegal drugs but have never consumed an illegal drug in my life and likely never will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:28 PM |
| 3 | What's your "hot take" or unpopular opinion when it comes to dating?I agree and disagree. Their standards might be realistic but extremely hard to find and take decades. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:25 PM |
| 1 | What's your "hot take" or unpopular opinion when it comes to dating?You have the option to not date and reject partners these days. That counts for a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:23 PM |
| 1 | What's your "hot take" or unpopular opinion when it comes to dating?It’s overrated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:22 PM |
| 3 | Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with?I’d prefer a mix of both options ideally but if I was forever to chose then it would be monogamy. From some research I’ve heard by researchers is that men desire relationships when men outnumber women. However, when women out number men they become more selective and open to dating many women / casual sex. https://youtu.be/A3GNkhN4XgM | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:19 PM |
| 0 | Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with?This is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:16 PM |
| 2 | Would you prefer to have a single monogamous sexual relationship for your entire life with somebody you loved but only found moderately attractive. Or would be prefer to have an endless supply of causal sex with people you found extremely attractive but never formed an emotional bound with?That’s how I view men either you are attractive enough or not. If someone is attractive enough it becomes indifferent whether they are the hottest or not as other qualities will be prioritised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:13 PM |
| -1 | Does someone’s past matter?Yes. I don’t think you can entirely ignore it honestly and it would be stupid to do so. However, I think where my frustration lies is in placing value of the number of partners vs attitude/values. I lose respect when someone asks about my body count and I’m not interested in someone that leads dating that way. It’s presumptuous to think you are entitled to my private info and it should come out naturally in conversation and with context. You are free as a guy to bail whenever you like if you’ve … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 12:01 PM |
| 1 | Age Gap Relationships/Leonardo DiCaprio Mega-ThreadI understand but what a celebrity is able to do has limited relevance to what the average person can do. The average woman that films a sex tape doesn't become a billionaire and marry a top rapper as exemplified by Kim Kardashian... I don't get why people care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 01:21 AM |
| 1 | possible equivalent?To a large degree yes. For example, good sex can make you overlook someone who is ultimately a bad fit. After sex you feel more attached and walking away is hard. Ultimately, I want to know do I actually like home, are we compatible and is this someone that if I have sex with that I’ll be comfortable with that decision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:39 PM |
| 1 | ''Just be who are you'' and ''It's all about your heart'' is terrible advice.It’s about not conforming if you cannot sustain changing that trait long term and accepting it. So you need to be self aware and pick up on social cues. When someone gives you advice like just be yourself it’s meant to be generic and assumes you are self aware about you are authentically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:34 PM |
| 3 | Women find men who ask something of their woman more attractiveYou should be able to leave whenever and the woman can wait as long as she deems necessary. But she can say she wants to get to know him and she’s looking for something serious. Then a guy can move on if he wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:48 PM |
| 2 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herMight be someone in an open relationship or a guy that doesn’t want commit to seeing one girl but wants clear communication/boundaries. It comes back down to safety, enjoyment and not getting STI’s. If lots of sexual partners is a way life many chose to do it without causing harm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 01:34 PM |
| 1 | how do you feel about modern marriage?Honestly, I follow some women subs and some will describes their husbands as decent guys before basically explaining how he abusive and awful he is (they compare him to other worse men). I’m sure there are examples for men which are similar. I rarely envy peoples marriages having seen many awful ones. I’d rather be single honestly if I can’t be with someone that’s a great match where I make him happy and vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 01:31 PM |
| 7 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herYes it’s a huge tragedy honestly and it’s so commonplace in my community. I see so many women who’ve died in bad marriages and almost all followed traditional advice. The women I’ve seen that bagged amazing husband are usually the ones who’ve made it clear they don’t need him and can do quite fine without him. They don’t call themselves feminists or independent they just do want they want. They don’t play by a man’s rules about trying to be a good wife they were busy pursuing careers usually in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 01:24 PM |
| 3 | how do you feel about modern marriage?Yep 100%, I watched a documentary about women murderers who used to kill their husband through poisoning, many lived sexless and miserable lives. It was awful for many men and women. As you note marriage was about in-laws, strategy and wealth, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 01:18 PM |
| 1 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herHow many of these men are married and providing for virgins? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 01:16 PM |
| 2 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herI guess you haven’t heard of “ethically non-monogamous” ENM people? 😂 Except you are judging women based on your experiences I.e. anecdotal evidence and it’s a heuristic. There are lots of different people with diverse experiences. I know of women that work normal jobs and seem sweet that hookup with guys every weekend. I know of another women who was a virgin until marriage and then cheated on her husband regularly so he agreed to just have an open relationship. She regretted waiting and felt i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 01:15 PM |
| 2 | possible equivalent?It’s not a like for like comparison but I’ve seen people compare to their ex I.e. he proposed to the new partner within a six months, or to other married couples although or to previous proposals as I said it’s very immature. Many of these people were religious and had no business getting married. There are lots of superficial and immature people both men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 12:55 PM |
| 3 | Women find men who ask something of their woman more attractiveYour comment is interesting but I’m not sure that I agree. You seem ignorant to the fact that we all exist in different environments. Even the UK with Brexit you could see the huge chasm and polarisation that exists. I’m sure in Tory circles certain discussion and behaviours are overlooked. There are also progressive spheres. In contrast with American Ivy Leaged some are in very progressive areas. My brothers, guy friends and many men that I’ve known wouldn’t speak so crudely about overweight, p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 12:33 PM |
| 3 | Men don't age like wine. Stop being delusional.Sweet. Do you know many girls your age dating 40 year old men or do you regularly hang out with 40 year old women? The only place I’ve met guys that old is at work but they are usually married, most of my friends or people that I interact with are in their twenties. I’ve never been approached by a 40 year old at a bar, nor while on uni campus or at any activities I’ve joined. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 12:06 PM |
| 5 | Women find men who ask something of their woman more attractiveThis why can’t people just have a conversation about their needs and expectations. If it doesn’t work for either party they can leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:59 AM |
| 22 | Age Gap Relationships/Leonardo DiCaprio Mega-ThreadWhy does anyone care what one ultra-wealthy male celebrity who is a complete exception to social norms does. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s upfront with each girl and it’s well discussed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:47 AM |
| 2 | Men don't age like wine. Stop being delusional.Yes, it would be strange that a typical 40 year old developmentally and socially would have much in common to build a serious relationship with a 25 year old. I’m not saying it couldn’t work just that it is very odd if that’s your first choice for a life partner. Most people date someone within a 5 year gap which seems most appropriate and valid as relationships are about compatibility. A 35 year old women knows what she wants, likely will fit into your age group/friends, likely to have similar … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:44 AM |
| 1 | people who have high n-count, do you find it difficult to maintain ltr relationships?Fair enough. I’m not sure you’d be able to find casual relationships but probably some correlations. You’d likely want to factor things like does this person do sex work, have they experienced trauma, do they desire relationships etc. As people can skew data when they are anomalies or outliers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:33 AM |
| 1 | how do you feel about modern marriage?Lol I certainly wouldn’t describe it as the best interest of women but having kids and relationships is beneficial to consumers / government who want people to have kids. Beyond that woman are probably likely to be consumers… Your second paragraph reads as a very bitter person and emotion driven analysis of what’s happened regarding marriage. Very skewed view of marriage. Men are not logical and rational by any means. Look at the stock market and financial economics or behavioural economics. Eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:29 AM |
| 2 | possible equivalent?Personally, I don’t feel any cloud of relating to when we are going to have sex because it takes time for me to asses the guy and my feelings. I’m best equipped to assess a guy and walk away before sex which saves both parties time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:19 AM |
| 6 | possible equivalent?Yes, it’s awful but the mature response is understanding that people need to do what’s best for them whether that be waiting for sex or not marrying you. It can be frustrating or painful but it’s life. If you play the game there are risks sadly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:14 AM |
| 3 | possible equivalent?It’s common with marriage I’ve seen people compare how quickly did someone propose or how much someone spent on the ring etc. I think it’s a very immature way of thinking ultimately as you recognise often jealousy and insecurity are at the root of the comparison. You’ve got to do what works for you in dating and life. I won’t sleep with a guy until I am ready and feel comfortable. Not a day sooner. This insures the experience is positive, safe and not stressful. Ultimately, if someone doesn’t li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:11 AM |
| 2 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herHow many of these men are married and providing for virgins? Likely none. Many of these guys have engaged in casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Women need to be taught at a young age how to treat men the same ways young boys are taught to treat womenI learnt similar variations of this through church and youth services. They were really great and unfortunately as an non-believer it’s weird to engage with dating as I had to basically develop a framework on my own from scratch. It took some mistakes and growth but I’ve come to similar conclusions as you. If you are very religious I would recommend waiting till marriage to save yourself drama and pain. It’s not worth it. I’d say both hookup culture and relationships are both overrated in many c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 09:53 AM |
| 1 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herI know. It wasn’t meant to be a shock or trick question. Just being reasonable based on many peoples experiences that I know off. Although my friends who’ve been or are virgin’s till marriage usually prefer other virgins and people from similar religions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 09:38 AM |
| 1 | people who have high n-count, do you find it difficult to maintain ltr relationships?Yes! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 09:27 AM |
| 1 | The average man isn't attracted to the average woman either.I think the reality is most people want the best partner they can get which includes looks. Most people want a catch and someone they can feel proud of on some level. What I find incredible are so optimistic about marriage and relationships? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 09:25 AM |
| 2 | how do you feel about modern marriage?Why do you care what the media says or thinks when evidently it has an agenda to push. Marriage and kids benefits society greatly which is why it’s strongly incentivised. I think the reason why it is considered empowering is women had to fight for the right to work in many jobs besides men and earns a fair wage. Being a stay at home mum was considered empowering to many as it was a given although for some someone it’s seen as a privilege. I don’t understand why you can’t see why women might view… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 09:14 AM |
| 2 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herTrue true! Also only do something because you want to and feel confident regardless of the outcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 09:01 AM |
| 1 | Can we just let people do what they want and want what they want, without being hypocrites?I literally detest snobs and people who are elitist about music, art, interests or food although I agree it’s widely done. I think there is a big difference though between shaming casual sex or promiscuous behaviour by all parties vs just shaming women for that behaviour. Although I dislike shaming generally. I similarly think it’s crap to shame men for a small penis, being short and less than ideal features although people do that. I’m not going to engage in shaming men just because others do i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 08:55 AM |
| 3 | how do you feel about modern marriage?You can do whatever you like which is the great thing about modern society. Not sure if you are trying to be rude towards empowered women… as you seem eager to not engage in traditional marriages either. I don’t think it’s worthwhile to avoid I’d just rather get married but discuss finances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 08:44 AM |
| 2 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herThere are also virgin men marrying non-virgin women and two virgins marrying each other. Just be realistic about how many virgins exist by like 30 or 40 years old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 08:41 AM |
| 9 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herThis happens a lot. I’ve even seen women who saved their virginity and they guy promised to marry them but then breakups to hookup. This can really hurt people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 08:39 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Wanting a virgin/low body count woman isn't about pussyI can understand placing huge value on whether someone is ethical, practises safe sex, and is emotionally/psychologically healthy. While these traits might be correlated with a lower body count it personally seems odd to me to discount someone from their specific number with no context. Consider the following options: Person A: Body count of 3 (all relationships) but has cheated on 2 partners. *Would be ruled out based on poor ethics.* Person B: Body count of 15 (some relationships and others ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 08:13 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Wanting a virgin/low body count woman isn't about pussyThis is extremely reasonable and realistic. I too care about sexual health highly, use protection and get tested before/frequently if I'm having sex. I'm medium sociosexuality and enjoy sex/physical intimacy. I need someone with a healthy appetite and enjoyment for sex plus prioritises making it a good experience. I don't understand guys that claim to really enjoy sex but simultaneously want partners that haven't had sex. Then they'll be in r/deadbedrooms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 07:57 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Wanting a virgin/low body count woman isn't about pussyThis is very simplistic and needs more context. A) Short marriage is preferable to a long and miserable one for instance. I've seen unhappy marriages and being single is far better. B) The notion they are unhappy with their future husbands is also unclear. It could be that more liberal women have higher N counts and are more likely to be educated/financially independent so had more options outside marriage to contrast and compare with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 07:48 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Wanting a virgin/low body count woman isn't about pussyThis 100%. It's just that for some it manifest sexually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 07:41 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Wanting a virgin/low body count woman isn't about pussyGreat point. Lol then they then come back here and complain about how all women are evil. That you can't trust women etc. Other guys date virgins and then leave afterwards. So it evident that virginity is not the be all end all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't concern themselves with being "Good" as seen by societyFirstly, you should develop an ethical and moral framework because you think it's the correct way to conduct yourself and a society. Because of reason and logic. Not to be seen as nice or good by women... Some huge points to raise which you should consider. Not every woman is the same or cares about feminism or is liberal... that is basic common-sense and if you engage with people from a diverse range of backgrounds you'd recognise that. Sneako is 23 and Max is late 30's. People make huge except… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 07:36 AM |
| 1 | how do you feel about modern marriage?People need to negotiate and determine whether marriage makes sense for them personally. I don't think it's necessary or the ultimate goal personally. I personally wouldn't live with someone or share assets if we weren't married. But I don't care about a wedding or any of the tradition around it realistically. I see it as a formal process to make a partner effectively your family under the law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 07:24 AM |
| 2 | how do you feel about modern marriage?Even those "traditional marriages" you describe which made sense were often forced onto couples rather than willingly engaged into like we think of today. There were many complications if your husband or wife died, if you were poor then sent to the poorhouse, during war many women were alone for numerous years, many women did have to work and there were many issues with traditional marriages (they didn't work for everyone). In many countries by just living with someone you basically are consider… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 07:21 AM |
| 2 | how do you feel about modern marriage?Do you understand how splitting assets works within marriage? The risks of marriage are not inherently gendered. - A marriage where the woman earns more and has more assets makes it more risky for the woman. - A marriage where the woman gives up her career to raise kids and then ends up divorced is not beneficial for the woman unless they guy is ultra-wealthy and reliable (many people don't pay child-support payments). - A marriage where the women and men have quite equal assets with no kids is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 07:16 AM |
| 5 | how do you feel about modern marriage?Marriage was never great. History demonstrates that clearly but many people believe nostalgia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 07:12 AM |
| 1 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herThe other reason extreme body counts matter for women but not for men is because men have sex with who they can. Women have sex with who they want. If a man is sexually successful, then everyone views him as being high-value - because so many women did. If a woman has a high body count, then that means that she probably has bad taste in men, or maybe can't hold a relationship - or she might have mental issues. While I agree a higher body count might correlate with what many deem negative traits … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 07:08 AM |
| 8 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herUnless its for religious reasons it's usually the most undesirable men that are fixated on virginity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:56 AM |
| 6 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herIt's only when a woman isn't a virgin that I'm not really willing to wait for sex. Being a born again virgin or waiting till marriage for sex, when you've already had consensual sex before, does not count. I won't wait beyond date 3 for sex with such women. Of course it's the woman's right to not sleep with me and it's my right to walk away from the relationship. Based on this statement you would be disqualified by many virgins. Do you not understand many women and men who remain virgins are doi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:55 AM |
| 5 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herI do and almost all are very religious. They are a minority. But even religious people aren't as preoccupied with it as people on PPD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:45 AM |
| 2 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herIt's quite naïve also. Some virgins have done everything bar sex. Others are generally unattractive. Also you can have sex and not being promiscuous by having standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:43 AM |
| 7 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herYes. Unless you are religious being a virgin by a certain age as you note becomes weird. In many religious circles being single past a certain point is also considered weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:41 AM |
| 4 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herDon't you think what is shameful or concerning in the examples you list are moreso unresolved trauma and then potentially a woman that engages in behaviour many would consider unethical easily. I would argue things like cheating or having unresolved trauma which can manifest in many toxic and unhealthy patterns are not good in relationships - while they can be correlated to a woman's promiscuity it doesn't demonstrate why responsible and ethical promiscuity would be wrong/bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:39 AM |
| 3 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herLol. Not being rude but it's not an exact science and if someone is young they might look different at 18 vs 28 for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:32 AM |
| 2 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herAre you a virgin? Are you religious? Can you provide (what's your education background, degree, income) ? Do you have children? Have you committed any crimes? Be ready to answer many questions like this and have the family fully review you as a man. If you meet the criteria and are willing to wait I don't see the issue then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:30 AM |
| 4 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herIf you have engage in sex outside relationships as a man that is an insecurity you need to work through individually and has nothing to do with with women quite frankly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:27 AM |
| 8 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herI don't respect such men and their illogical behaviour / thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:25 AM |
| 12 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herWhat risks exist for men from high body counts that aren't present for women? Also high body counts exist usually because men engage in sex, evidently, if men are so concerned they should stop having sex with women outside of marriage. You haven't explained the incentive to remain with a low count for women who are not religious, conservative or asexual. Especially as women become increasingly educated, independent and self-sufficient. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:20 AM |
| 6 | Men don't age like wine. Stop being delusional.I used the term "date" not "sex appeal". Not sure if you understand the distinction but finding someone physically attractive who happens to be younger is perfectly fine but wanting to date them is an entirely separate matter. Wanting to date them usually indicates something is off such as the guy's maturity, emotional or intellectual development, he isn't desirable to women in his own age range, seeks power/control (or abusive) etc. there is usually something going on although once in a blue mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 06:14 AM |
| 26 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herMen aren't marrying virgins or "good women" either. I've known women that saved their virginity and I don't envy any of them quite frankly. If men truly want women to be virgins they have to incentivise that behaviour by ensuring these women are married and treated well. Otherwise as a woman you see horrific examples that disincentivise that behaviour, such as: - woman X saves her virginity then get mistreated/abused by her husband; - woman Y saves herself but can't find a guy willing to wait to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Most men and women experience the “hoe phase” at different points in life. Men are called immature and dogs when they finally get to experience it for themselves.Lol you wish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 05:42 AM |
| 1 | Most men and women experience the “hoe phase” at different points in life. Men are called immature and dogs when they finally get to experience it for themselves.Many people regardless of attractiveness don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 05:40 AM |
| 1 | Did The Red Pill miss something about women?Option 1. Dating wealth “high value” as risks from cheating which can result in an incurable STI and losing money to pay for other children. Not to mention men can lose money etc. Option 2. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 05:26 AM |
| 0 | Did The Red Pill miss something about women?Be submissive/dependant and marry an abuser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Do you slutshame?I would never slutshame a woman or a man especially as I don’t know their story or situation. I wish we could have an objective and fair discussion on sexuality. Currently only two narratives seem to exist which is the libfem sex positive perspective and then a conservative anti-sex / purity culture. Both have plenty of pros and cons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 05:21 AM |
| 1 | ''Just be who are you'' and ''It's all about your heart'' is terrible advice.Your comment summarises why certain people struggle with dating so much they can’t read between the lines (take social cues) and expect uniquely tailored advice. When someone says “just be yourself” it refers to presenting a sustainable version of yourself that’s honest. When someone says it’s “all about your heart” it refers to the right person for you should accept you with flaws and understand things can change. Both those pieces of advice are important as they highlight there is no perfect s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 05:18 AM |
| 1 | Does it really boil down to looks as far as what makes a woman a potential partner vs a best friend?I think it’s the barrier of entry into relationships for most people. Really attractive girls in a similar position might see guys willing to risk the friendship more often. But you have to be careful thinking too much about these things as many factors have to be considered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 05:00 AM |
| 3 | What is the most ''flawed'' archetype of a person you'd date?So interesting. Throw away everything in my previous comment out of the window. Some might have a preference for black men, you might be attractive/ very charismatic and most importantly I think black men (even women) are actually desirable. Especially, now that black culture has been in-vogue and ascended to high culture in American contexts. Good luck with marriage and engagement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 04:43 AM |
| 1 | What is the most ''flawed'' archetype of a person you'd date?In relation to your first paragraph it could be an example of where someone just assumes you do STEM if you are Asian - it could be based on stereotypes and how you present yourself. These are pretty pervasive. You never now relating to attractiveness as certain guys a cute vs hot. Some girls like the more nerdy/tech/geeky guys 100% especially if you’ve gone to a good college/university. You can never be sure but I’d say do what feels right for you and until stated otherwise assume it’s a positi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 04:23 AM |
| 1 | CMV, Sex is an essential part of a long term relationship, without it relationships lose their love and end badly.This is so broad and highlights the importance of discussing things with your potential partner. If you think sex is critically important make that known. This supports people exploring and learning about their preferences before they marry. I personally think of you have really hard and fast rules about sex you either should remain single, pursue open relationships or be open to your relationship failing. Often no sex in a relationship unless both parties are asexual indicates a broader issue e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 04:18 AM |
| 2 | What is the most ''flawed'' archetype of a person you'd date?I know a few guys like this who got hit on by lots of left leaning women. There are many reasons: I think the chase and conquering someone no-one else can inflates some woman’s egos (taking your virginity might make them feel special). You could be attractive and they just assume men will be open to sex (some guys don’t follow their religion or break rules). They could have a fetish or strong preference for your ethnic group. I’ve seen this in both men and women. I’ve noticed many Muslim men can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Women always want something new with one man; men always want the same thing with someone newSo vague and meaningless. Some would argue men prefer variety and want multiple women whereas women just want one man… Might just be your experience which is still valid but should be the basis for any sweeping generalisations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Ladies - The More Times You Had Sex With A Casual Hook Up, Did You Start Developing Feelings?I can’t imagine being willing to see a guy 3 times a week for sex and not liking them tbh. I’m an super introverted though. Whether I’d think dating was a realistic possibility is an entirely different matter. But I know women who it wouldn’t mean anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 04:00 AM |
| 2 | Can we just let people do what they want and want what they want, without being hypocrites?I’m not in the USA. Even in most western countries POC have communities with different values and norms. You sound really uncultured and as if you’ve not travelled or explored much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Romantic/Spousal relationship is redundant if you've found peace/contentment in being single.Relationships and dating is so overrated as someone that bothered with the whole process for 10 years (between the 12 to 22) before realising it’s likely not for me and I’d internalised societies messaging. The most common reasons for dating, marriage, relationships or sex don’t appeal to me: Being in love. Never experienced this in a relationship to the point of throwing away reason or logic. Don’t want to be alone. I enjoy being alone and find enough socialisation through friends, work, therap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 03:50 AM |
| 4 | Can we just let people do what they want and want what they want, without being hypocrites?All you are demonstrating is that certain words are offensive. You have not shown that women have to consider something shameful for it to work? You have not demonstrated that fat people have to consider being fat bad for shaming to work? You’ve merely demonstrated people don’t like being offended which is different from your initial point. If you don’t get the nuance I can’t help you. I’m a WOC. I don’t want to share my ethnicity but in my culture many Aunties or even Uncles will say you are ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 03:37 AM |
| 2 | people who have high n-count, do you find it difficult to maintain ltr relationships?This question has a few issues. Firstly, can you specify what you consider a high count. Secondly, what is this in comparison too? You’d need to factor in things like age and goals / ideas of relationships. I have friends from different walks of life and many other factors come into play so in comparison to what is huge. I have friends who are virgins that have never dated, kissed, had a bf or held hands with a guy. I know some who have only been with one person or married as virgins. I know oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 03:33 AM |
| 2 | Can we just let people do what they want and want what they want, without being hypocrites?In my culture people do call people fat or big it’s not seen as offensive. In western contexts there is lots of negative association because of what’s considered desirable. If you look over history their have been periods and cultures that have praised being curvy/fat or bigger. It depends who you call fat. In a western context it’s offensive because the person understands you are trying to offend them and their is a huge context - how does this support your notion that the person internalised t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 03:25 AM |
| 2 | Can we just let people do what they want and want what they want, without being hypocrites?Not necessarily. You can be shunned from a group, stigmatised, bullied, limited in opportunities and historically women who slept around were often punished medically. You can be placed in insane asylums, viewed as crazy etc. Not all women or fat people internalise social shaming. Further, you’ve seen push back and questioning - even reclaiming these terms. There is also a question of understanding that others may view your behaviour as shameful but refusing to accept that perspective. I don’t t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Is "the wall" something that really happens to women and affects them more than men?The wall is such a vague term and I disagree with how red pill conceptualise it usually. To be brutally honest red pill makes the argument for why people should in my view wait to get married. You get a much better picture of how someone will be long term when you meet them late twenties to early thirties. This includes money management, education/career, health/fitness, how they age etc You can tell by 30/35 if someone has delayed gratification, worked on themselves, taken good care of their pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Men- how important is it to you to buy a house for or with your partner?I would never buy a house with someone that I wasn’t married too. A house is usually a thirty year and huge financial commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Most men and women experience the “hoe phase” at different points in life. Men are called immature and dogs when they finally get to experience it for themselves.I don’t think you can generalise a “hoe phase” as it’s a personal and individual experience. I think common periods to do extensive sexual exploration are teenage and early twenties. For those who missed out due to LTR’s, religion or numerous other reasons it could be late twenties and early thirties. But you have to consider many factors like socioeconomics, cultural/political slant etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:56 AM |
| 3 | Can we just let people do what they want and want what they want, without being hypocrites?Nope. I don’t care but I do care when others try project their views about women broadly as it’s rooted in misogyny whether men or women are the ones to shame others is often irrelevant. The English language and most religions that were mostly created by men given men were the only ones to access educational institutions/positions of power are responsible for creating a plethora of terms that shame women for having sex given no equivalent terms for men exist alongside stories in the bible that s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:50 AM |
| 2 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herYou’ve asked a really good question and I commend you for it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:43 AM |
| 1 | Did The Red Pill miss something about women?You need to define what you mean by the Red Pill clearly. Is it hypergamy or more things broadly. But I have a plethora of critiques of the red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:41 AM |
| 1 | what do men get wrong about women have so many optionn and can sleep with a lot of different men?Having options isn’t useful if they aren’t options you value. Kind of like telling someone who is vegan their are plenty of options at a butcher … like none of those endless options are appealing. It’s like telling a straight men they have plenty of options on Grindr… like that’s pointless to the straight guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:38 AM |
| 1 | Are romantic relationships even worth the trouble in the modern age?I think they’ve always been problematic except in modern society we can opt out whereas previous generations where often forced by arranged marriages, gunshot marriages and societal benefits of marriage. This idea that dating is so awful now is quite funny in contrast to relationships and family historically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:37 AM |
| 2 | Do all men wish their current girlfriend was a virgin before him?That’s actually so adorable and love that for you guys! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:35 AM |
| 3 | Do all men wish their current girlfriend was a virgin before him?💗💓💗 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:35 AM |
| 6 | Do all men wish their current girlfriend was a virgin before him?I think as a woman if someone hadn’t had sex even by 25 I’ll start raising red flags. I’ve met people like this and they are either VERY religious or VERY conservative or Asexual/don’t like sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Wanting a virgin/low body count woman isn't about pussyI’ve noticed the opposite actually depending on the woman. My friends with low counts have been REALLY hurt and hung up when their relationships didn’t work. They had so much baggage and because they place so much value on sex they have way more drama. If you date them it’s like signing up for marriage. My friends with counts around 4/5+ are way less problematic and can walk away with very little baggage. They will walk when something isn’t working and therefore don’t waste either parties time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:33 AM |
| 1 | Do you care how many people your partner slept with?I wouldn’t care per se. It would more be a case of do I think this person is capable of being in a relationship or are they a fuckboy for life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:28 AM |
| 14 | Men don't age like wine. Stop being delusional.I agree some guys are more attractive as they age (as some women are) if they can bring a whole package and take care of themselves well. However, as someone in my early twenties I would never date a guy in his thirties. Until, my mid-twenties that would be weird asf. I can’t imagine an intelligent, confident and emotionally healthy guy wanting to date someone substantially younger than him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:26 AM |
| 15 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herThere is no incentive in the 21st century for woman to remain virgins unless they are religious, don’t want sex, or that’s what they personally feel comfortable with. If men value virgins or low n counts they have to make it an attractive proposition for women to wait. Many women today are just going to sperm banks when they want kids instead of waiting on a man for many of these choices. Growing up I idolised single women without children and while many were sad they didn’t realise how good the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:21 AM |
| 19 | You can't complain about female promiscuity if you aren't willing to marry the virgin that you say you want and provide for herBut this is already flawed logic as many people who are virgins are religious and expect marriage not just a guy waiting many dates. They usually want a religious partner who would be accepted in their social circles and respected by their father or brothers. Many women have higher body counts purely because being a virgin doesn’t guarantee a guy will respect you, marry you and never cheat/leave you. If men care about body counts the onus is on them not to sleep around with women they aren’t att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:19 AM |
| 6 | Men should give up on western women and go overseasYou sound more stupid than sociopathic or psychopathic but if that makes you feel better or special then whatevs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:12 AM |
| 7 | Men should give up on western women and go overseasI'm convinced redpill/manosphere is full of psychopaths and narcissists - men trying to convince others to act in similar non-ethical ways which is quite frankly disgusting. At least be honest in your description of what you are doing which is preying on women that are more vulnerable and have limited options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:00 AM |
| 1 | What percentage of people within your dating age range do you find attractive enough to sleep with? What percentage do you find attractive enough to have a relationship with?I'm a woman and in my twenties so attraction wouldn't be enough for me to sleep with someone. I would need plenty more from a guy to be interested or open to sex. The older I get the harder it is for me to find people attractive so at this point it would be 0.1% not to mention the right timing etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 01:58 AM |
| 2 | Can we just let people do what they want and want what they want, without being hypocrites?I don't mind people having preferences rather it's that shaming of others which I detest whether by men or women. If you are not religious and try shaming me for my body count then I have an issue. Then I'll expect you to substantiate your double standard. But I'm not stopping anyone having their views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 01:56 AM |
| 1 | how do you feel about modern marriage?I'm not attached to marriage but also not interested in dating or having sex with men currently either. I don't think much about it or dating quite honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 01:55 AM |
| 0 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?Please list the men from this expert source 90 Day Fiancé, the reality tv show 😂 If you can’t see the obvious and don’t understand how morals/ethics work then I can’t help you. I think you’d be better off dating men honestly. You like non-Western women because they are more subservient to men, will tolerate more BS and will raise children… lol. Not directly disparaging to those women but pretty offensive nonetheless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 03:03 AM |
| 0 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?The Western woman doesn't want him and/or he has limited choices among women that are financially independent is usually the issue. You've completely missed the point. The reason why it's gross is your are preying on vulnerable people and seeking a power advantage. It might be vain or superficial to have certain preference but rarely are these women preying on vulnerable people by preferring tall men, older men, muscly men, smart men, younger men, rich men (unless the man is senile) etc. Of cour… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 02:36 AM |
| 0 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?I’m a non-Western woman lol. But of course you can find love with someone from another country but intentionally searching for a wife there based on these assumptions is gross. Men do get taken advantage of in these countries and many women are forced into these marriages due to limited opportunities. Didn’t say all. Some are religious or culturally oriented in ways that serve men - not all. It’s the same type of men that like dating women under 25. They know most older women wouldn’t put up wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 01:32 AM |
| 0 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?Lol the same non-Western women organising to rob men and use them for money or get a better future. Get real with yourself. I don’t begrudge these women but don’t pretend that anything much more than poverty and religion drives much of this behaviour towards tolerating certain men or having children. I feel bad for these women but often their kids make radically different choices. Men have no shame. I can’t imagine going to a third world country and bragging that people with limited options will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 01:11 AM |
| 1 | What observations do you get from an average girl having her pick of men? What does this say to you about women’s standards for men and what can men learn from it? Does this debunk the idea looks don’t matter?Many women want guys that are intellectually stimulating, or in shape, respectful, upfront, prioritises family/their kids well-being, does fair share of work etc. It seems people here hyper-focus on a few examples that confirm their bias vs recognising women in a range of different brackets, looks, backgrounds and desires exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 12:40 AM |
| 2 | What observations do you get from an average girl having her pick of men? What does this say to you about women’s standards for men and what can men learn from it? Does this debunk the idea looks don’t matter?It’s not representative of all women by far lol. Do some women think like this sure but it’s certainly not evident that it’s the majority. I know plenty of settle down and are married. Or single and rarely think like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 12:38 AM |
| 2 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?Potentially that’s why but I can empathise with women that have kids as sad as it can be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 12:36 AM |
| 3 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?Many non-Western women don’t want kids either but are forced based on limited resources and education. I don’t see you plan working as men right now can and do import wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 12:20 AM |
| 9 | What observations do you get from an average girl having her pick of men? What does this say to you about women’s standards for men and what can men learn from it? Does this debunk the idea looks don’t matter?I don’t buy this notion as being the reality for most women. Many men claim that if women picked X other guy their outcome would be better and that’s not true. Many women date ugly and/or broke men thinking they’ll treat them better and still get treated poorly. Some women just experience bad luck. I genuinely think for certain men they’ll complain and critique women no matter what we do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 02:43 PM |
| 1 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?If I got pregnant then I’d commit suicide if I couldn’t get an abortion plus had to access to BC. If I was in American I’d get my tubes tied. That’s what will happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 01:30 PM |
| 3 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?I’m not American. But many women already have children or are married but I saw plenty of women willing to risk jail to give out abortion medications and the President stepped in to put an Executive Order. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/08/fact-sheet-president-biden-to-sign-executive-order-protecting-access-to-reproductive-health-care-services/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 01:17 PM |
| 2 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?I don’t want kids either. Dating or kids are the least of my worries honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 01:16 PM |
| 4 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?I’m not in Russia. Thank god. I would rather die. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 12:44 PM |
| 8 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?$10k is nothing compared to having and raising a baby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 12:41 PM |
| 8 | What observations do you get from an average girl having her pick of men? What does this say to you about women’s standards for men and what can men learn from it? Does this debunk the idea looks don’t matter?Your comment doesn’t make logical sense. Just admit you want to complain about women in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 12:39 PM |
| 12 | What observations do you get from an average girl having her pick of men? What does this say to you about women’s standards for men and what can men learn from it? Does this debunk the idea looks don’t matter?You know what I find hilarious, if women are not picky they are shamed mercilessly and dehumanised for being sluts (high n count) or played. But when they are picky people complain… I wouldn’t read to much into this one case honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 11:14 AM |
| 1 | What observations do you get from an average girl having her pick of men? What does this say to you about women’s standards for men and what can men learn from it? Does this debunk the idea looks don’t matter?Says the guy with no pic. I’d wager most people in the world would be on the lower end in LA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 11:13 AM |
| 2 | One observation: girls 23 - 25 act as if that's the normal time regular guys finally get to get laid often, if they have a good career.Ok blocked. Waste of my time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 11:04 AM |
| 2 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?Your fantasy is that men will get all this political power and women will become more respectful in their dating… keep dreaming. You can’t force women to want or need men. Having tasted freedom many women like myself won’t be forced into having children or dating men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 10:41 AM |
| 2 | One observation: girls 23 - 25 act as if that's the normal time regular guys finally get to get laid often, if they have a good career.I cited UCL? If you have some research I’d be interested in listening otherwise ciao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 10:39 AM |
| 1 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?Keep dreaming about your revenge fantasy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 10:13 AM |
| 1 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?Speak for yourself my nonexistent dating life makes me pretty happy and being childfree is fantastic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 10:09 AM |
| 7 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?That’s in wealthy developed countries but globally the population remains growing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 10:08 AM |
| 7 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?They can’t force women to procreate thankfully we can resist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 10:07 AM |
| 1 | One observation: girls 23 - 25 act as if that's the normal time regular guys finally get to get laid often, if they have a good career.Ok. Blocked and not wasting my time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 09:32 AM |
| 3 | One observation: girls 23 - 25 act as if that's the normal time regular guys finally get to get laid often, if they have a good career.Do you have evidence for that claim that women have higher cleanliness standards? Also it doesn’t explain why women end up doing more childcare, cooking more and doing more emotional labour such as organising parties, shopping, keeping track of medical appointment, school issues etc. I think some women do struggle with mens gender roles shifting because when men aren’t providers they can question the value of dating such men. In some cases it’s unfair but I empathise as men can’t give birth so a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 09:12 AM |
| 5 | One observation: girls 23 - 25 act as if that's the normal time regular guys finally get to get laid often, if they have a good career.It’s based on data and facts particularly in certain communities. If you wish to present other evidence for consideration that’s up to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 09:06 AM |
| 3 | One observation: girls 23 - 25 act as if that's the normal time regular guys finally get to get laid often, if they have a good career.You have to now pay child support for a lazy partner though… I empathise with these woman as many are made to think marriage is amazing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 09:03 AM |
| 4 | One observation: girls 23 - 25 act as if that's the normal time regular guys finally get to get laid often, if they have a good career.If anything women underestimate how much work they do compared to men within the home. Considering factors like pregnancy and birthing a child are just expected labour - many woman organise their husbands lives. It’s why men with wives typically live longer and earn more… even an average situation with a wife for many men is a win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 08:05 AM |
| 5 | One observation: girls 23 - 25 act as if that's the normal time regular guys finally get to get laid often, if they have a good career.In breadwinner families this is not the case on average. In families where women earn more they do more labour at work and at home… lol trying to make data confirm your reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 08:01 AM |
| 5 | One observation: girls 23 - 25 act as if that's the normal time regular guys finally get to get laid often, if they have a good career.I think it includes tasks like that but considers time spent. Therefore, men spend less time doing chores but there is a plethora of literature if you want to read further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 05:58 AM |
| 2 | What some women think a mature man dating a young woman looks like vs what it really is like.Great work buying. I have six figures liquid assets in my early twenties but still can’t buy a decent place easily in this current AUS market. But I agree now that I have my assets, almost done my degree and worked heaps the only guy I’d ever date is one that brings bliss, peace and enhancement to my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 05:51 AM |
| 1 | Women, how important is finances?Finances are a huge dealbreaker. I care about earning potential, financial goals, savings/investments, debt/liabilities and responsible spending. I would prefer someone that I’d open to pursuing FIRE and spends wisely without being stingy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 05:42 AM |
| 5 | Women, how important is finances?If I’m staying home he better earn my potential income plus quite a bit more to compensate. I would expect it to be our money split equally otherwise it’s a no from me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 05:40 AM |
| 1 | ''Just be who are you'' and ''It's all about your heart'' is terrible advice.Being who you are relates to presenting a sustainable version of yourself rather than meaning you should engage in self improvement. You can only wear a mask for so long! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 05:32 AM |
| 9 | One observation: girls 23 - 25 act as if that's the normal time regular guys finally get to get laid often, if they have a good career.Please educate yourself on some of the reasons women don’t find this attractive below. It appears women breadwinners are increasing but they still do more domestic labour than men. Why have a man if you are paying all the bills, birthing the children and doing most domestic/child care? Breadwinner women face more critique for breaking gender norms and likely men too, forces them at times to compensate. Also more woman are childfree or becoming selective with the kind of partner they procreate wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 05:26 AM |
| 4 | One observation: girls 23 - 25 act as if that's the normal time regular guys finally get to get laid often, if they have a good career.I think it’s because children are only one component of a relationship. You actually want to like the person and good genetics usually aligns with traits like earning an income, education and being in shape. Most women want a partner that’s equally yoked which might mean he also reads, has interesting conversations, fits in with her friends/family, spoils her (things like writing a letter, kissing someone, making them a picnic, picking some flowers and many other non-expensive are really sweet g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Men who only LTR exceptionally low n women while being promiscuous themselves generally make for bad partners.People complain about women regardless of what they do. If you have casual sex or engage in any sex work you are a "hoe/slut" underserving of respect for merely sleeping with men. Doesn't matter that many women are assaulted, or exploited that end up in these situations - they are damaged and bad. If you are a wife/mother you a required to provide unpaid labour (including your body and mind) and you lose the right to put your needs first. If you dare divorce, complain or be unhappy you will be s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 03:42 AM |
| 3 | Men who only LTR exceptionally low n women while being promiscuous themselves generally make for bad partners.He provides and protects by pimping women out ? You need to develop your own critical thinking skills and ability to evaluate someone beyond information that's evidently biased. i.e. read between the lines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 03:11 AM |
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