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Thanks for the kind reply, mostly agreed with something I'd like to add about the gist of this misunderstanding and the dangerous stirring of the pot made exploiting the insecurity of many men, some women too ofc but really men if we talk about the whole manosphere "disenfranchised man" , maybe continuing tomorrow (EU here) :) cya
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:41 AM
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Eh, they don't get it, I'm afraid, they don't or seemingly can't get the or digest positive message unless you are explicit and borderline flatter :D and rather throw it up completely understanding it as en as useless. Zero sum, women are not dependant on men, would prefere no man over a bad relationship = women think men are useless and would rather not date than go with a unattractive, aka non top 10% man or with 6 figures rolleyes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:03 AM
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Hi, no pill or bluish-alt pill man if any here, you are a woman and I think I might reach up to your issues empathize more than I could towards some men here, not for empathy gap, like some will say, but probably cause I feel like if I have an objection but I'm in good faith and without an axe to grind it's easier to have a dialogue. Note the one who you are arguing with seems quite unorthodox, in another thread, he argues with another lilkely redpill who might apparently agree with your "we don…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:22 AM
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Yeah, those kinds of men have nothing to offer, because they think their only appeal is to provide and act like they can't care less of anything beyond your looks just as a mean to control you. But I hope, unless you don't reduce men to what they can provide, which I know it's not your point, you may like a man not because you need him, sure you can stay single, but a man who is supportive of your goals and independence, instead of control, with which you share all kinds of experiences and is th…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/24 03:03 PM
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Ok, I agree, we at least avoid the naturalistic fallacy because there have been many case of things arguably being true across the globe and hence "natural" patriarchy, racism, which in some ways can be contrasted, not without challenges. " it works" is imho not a good reason alone because it matters how it works at which cost. Both for different wome and men there can be different flavours and extents of positive feedback from investing in both beauty and personality, about looks, there is styl…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/24 01:59 PM
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Thanks for the reply, yeah I was figuring you meant that, it makes sense, to move in some stability is needed and it's a further step from dating, only curious and far from expecting any explanation, I really wish you to date the person you are the most comfortable and compatible with :) and that's already a challenge for most for us so let's really not add further stress and expectations, I was curious as Exredpill is almost always a tense and delicate equilibrium and there are a lot of subtle …
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 09:08 PM
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Hi, I premise I agree with you and it's sure not progressive to look down on lower classes, it defeats the very purpose of progressivism, this is why it's a double wham how some of them is more vulnerable to reactionary propaganda and game of division and the point is wanting more them having time for themselves and elements to develope more critical thouoght. And I think I'm "low class" myself, while not strictly "working class". Yes those aren those wild and sky high standards though I kinda g…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 04:07 PM
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Sounds like what gets Trump and populists elected thought, it has lots of fallacies. I agree there's toxic insecurity, i.e. the insecure may get possessive, jealous. but the arrogant fake confident is also controlling. They can't take out what they dish. If they encounter others like them, it devolves into a brawl because deescalating is a weakness to them, they rely on others not being assholes, they rely on "herd civility", like no vax rely on herd immunity, (where applicable of course, not Co…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 03:49 PM
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The post keeps getting worse at "I wouldn't say it's a bad strategy for a woman to invest in her beauty, because it will make her more attractive to most men.", starting from deeming it an innocent and "not even wrong" idea to frame it as working toward something simply presented as what the "average person of the opposide gender" things, as it's a simple, neutral things without implication and not subjected to bias, harmful generalization, sadly that part about women reasonably having to "inves…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 03:19 PM
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I agree with the general argument here from many women famously interiorizing patriarchal logic, upholding gender norms, yeah, there is a part of feminism (a part i stress) which is imho maybe counter productive in denying to men having trouble dating, they exist, are most of the time hard conservative and in theory they shouldn't be compatible with men not subscribig to oppressive gender norms and the first one to drop is one saying it's their loss if they don't conform to unreasonable expectat…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/23 02:50 AM
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Hi, I see often this argument of women slut shaming more than men, though from what I see on reddit and internet it's really mostly men except as we notice redpill women, which is much less than men. The argument is often used by the manosphere as a fallacy on the general argument that if women do it it's not mysogynist and it's not patriarchal. Though I concede it's a thing in general of hard conservative both men and women who interiorize this patriarchal logic for which a woman is a lock and …
/r/ExRedPill20/10/23 02:29 AM
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Why are you now pulling the "most women are like this" line. It's the red pill and incel main dogma "awalt", to prevent men from finding a compatible woman and making actually the problem always on men, it's the polar opposite of empowering.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/23 01:13 AM
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As in that it may apply to people in general as concept.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/23 12:59 AM
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That man might need to person up, or grow up, same as a women. Though having some more empathic emotions should be fine both in a job or a funeral, we can agree there are excessive reactions maybe disproportionate to losing a job but no hard rule either way. As well as emotion can be expressed differently, some people don't tear at funeral but nevertheless are as much emotional and not dead inside, I think people may have better to do at a funeral than rating the performance of emotion.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/23 11:56 PM
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Hi, can I ask, if she thought women are attracted either to status or, like you say she mentioned the chiseled jaw, height build, or add dominance, how did she relate that do her attraction to you, depending on how you fit them which you may or may not or to various extent/perceived to. ? About the pick me part, I see in part the argument against, maybe in your specific case, but guessing a pick me redpill would be one who agrees with the generality of red pill but allowing there are are exceopt…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/23 05:51 PM
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I mostly agree with the concept you exposed, though it's maybe best to not say "by most men" in regard to how she's considered, generalizations are unwelcome for both genders imho, not for a misandry false equivalency, but can be discouraging and hence "redpillish" for women reading it, though I know it's to reinforce the point against his redpillish common point.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/23 05:01 PM
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Hi, really that's so sad, also they complain about women pickiness while reinforcing the social disincentive for women to be open, geniuses! Women are both forced in their mind to go for the first man asking them, of course not anyone else, but themselves, risking if dumped, to be called hoe, even if it has been him dumping her because she should have known better They are mainly the usual contraddiction of the patriarchal narration of masculinity, just more formalized in a way, which exposes ho…
/r/ExRedPill18/09/23 03:03 AM
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By any means necessary means even at the expense of others, usually. Makes me think the humanity of other people doesn't count is not value and like you can't trust that person and can think only in material and transactional terms. Others can be trodden over. Their life is important only as long as they think it's useful in their narrowly close definition of usefulness. And if you think it's necessary to be liked by a woman, it's not, not by those worth it.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/23 02:40 AM
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Not pursuing that, sure, but by any means necessary is what makes one a prick to be around and sometimes part of the problems of this world.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/23 02:33 AM
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Dominate? Only people with the maturity of being impressed by such gimmicks.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/23 02:26 AM
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Yeah, and even here we can see a pair of disappointing comments about it being a massively positive trait to pursue what they want and getting it by any means necessary?
/r/ExRedPill18/09/23 02:25 AM
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Not positive, it's being an unsufferable prick.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/23 02:25 AM
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Well dumb reactionaries and playboys more than men in general, but I get you, you said there are too many enpough of them where you live.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/23 12:42 AM
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Ok my bad about the last part, I meant assuming you talk to people in general with respect, not just, women but that was not serious and was a "you" in general, as an addition to the idea of talking to women as human being. I know females and males of the species are always brought up as comparison to pump up selection anxiety on men going through insecurities, will I be filtered ? Is this our role as males. It seems the occam razor as in why should us be different. Bonobos seem different ok, tu…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 11:57 PM
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That was what I was telling to Televisionetc. it would be a bit demeaning to women as well. Oh wait, ok I thought you were saying there's no reward for being the one woman out of hundreds men ask out :) So it's the same for us, this way, adhere to the traditional and in part problematic role of the pursuer or being "punished", of course differently by not having dates. All despite being potential allies. Eh once I saw in a straightdope post about social norms a jaded take about inertia being a s…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 11:02 PM
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Yeah, I guess it was about testing him, he just hates women indeed, yeah sure you should not let him neg you! I prefer for men and women sure different on average but equal. Equal is about quality, afterall most progressivism and even feminism pushes for the idea of equal in the difference, be it inter personal or intersexual. I dunno the study about there being more intra same sex differences in behaviour, yeah born differences contribute to that but in a complex interaction with a lot of socia…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 10:53 PM
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Ok +1 I agree with this, though why would you want in first place a man which consider you slutty for that, that's stupid, not masculine, a stupid patriarchal concept, would you want such man approachung you with such values that he'd think that of you weren't you the one approaching? Don't we tell incel the same thing, on top of working on themselves, yeah there are women so shallow but why would you want to stay with them in first place? They'd be terrible companion, not that many of such ince…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 10:47 PM
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Hey, I'm really sorry about that, so many violent men even the ones you thought you know well. Yeah it's definitely a more poignant reason than what incels make up. Ps. another "it's not redpill to aknowledge" comment replied to me basically saying that looking at women and the looking down is perceived predatory, but also that it's not masculine https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/16l3xl4/comment/k11kdul/?context=3 and thatyou have to read women mind, the burden is on you (men), I don't…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 10:31 PM
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It's not unattractive for most women.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 10:14 PM
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I'm a man and that's just a negative way of looking at it, it's best to talk at real people not preconceptions, I dunno about this study. So it's not masculine, because it's supposedly submissive but is simultaneously perceived predatory? Aw, evil, women they consider us weak enough to not be a man, but never enough to not being offensive... Not all masculinity is alway tough buff active, that can appear as compensating, are we suggesting being a caricature of it? ​ Ok not looking down, so looki…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 10:13 PM
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Oh, sure, I noticed that since the first post and he went more and more berserk. But isn't it another point. Maybe it's for another post of mine? but yeah (:
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 09:03 PM
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Oh, ok, I agree with this then! I thought with your premise of biological differences, of course for the body makeup you were making it about the natural role for men to be the demand. Yeah, misogynists reactionaries continuously contraddict themselves in what they shame women for, it's absurd. Especially red piller, they complain about women being "difficult", then they go on with their nonsense about those bs statistics about pair bonding ability of women dropping with their body count. And th…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 08:50 PM
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Why framing what I said about not approaching 100 women as if they were indistinct as wanting women to fall on their laps? Ok now the focus is incels, men who wallow and not talk with women, but don't we decry men being overly active and them having every woman as interchangeable? " it’s too scary and unsafe" See? This could be a good reason to approach less, rather than defaulting to differences and bioessentialism, though it's not like if he approached you that's less probable, but this could …
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 08:40 PM
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Women are not the prize, it's a really dangerous mindset. As in women to be deserved and "won". Which informed most of patriarchal framing of society. And why you frame women approaching as falling on their lap, it's not like approaching means you have to date him, let alone getting laid with him. It's not like I'm waiting to be approached, I do my part and approach respecfully and friendly like I'd do for any other person. With this mindset you couldn't approach even to know male friends.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 08:30 PM
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What? You were actually meaning that??? Women are bad economy? Or men?
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 08:22 PM
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I didn't talk about women falling on men laps. You were taught, that's the keyword it's not inherent and "natural", but it becomes second nature, in our very social species ;). I didn't agree with him women were cowards if you note. "Men don’t appreciate something they don’t have to work for" I have to tell you this is a quite toxic and redpillish framing, but I understand a lot of programming gets inprinted in our mind, it's difficult to detox. In this case you cast women as something to win an…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 08:21 PM
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You ignored most of my points, ok. The point is it's you saying that him being average is not attractive, if he's compatible, it works, no need to to complicate it so much, don't tell me he needs to be "chad", why would you want people who subscribe to those shallow standard, because you'd like any woman? I don't think that of you.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 08:15 PM
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You don't need to stoop down to that, more women are now doing those jobs.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 08:11 PM
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True, almost every person except these negative red pillers know these exceptions, it seems. I didn't say you should be not motivated to do better and improve yourself, that's a good thing, but with red pill you'd re in for disappointment and unrealistic standars, they basically tell the standards are mostly unattainable and one might think why even work at it and not wallow. I'd think a red piller should be the first to criticize such criteria. I just meant that all kinds of people are partnere…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 07:47 PM
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Why you defaulted to this explanation? I understand his post is indisposing though.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 07:30 PM
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Her response above is abysmal, but yours has been harsh as well, it is true that women risk more, though imho not approaching at all because of that might be overreacting but it's up to the woman, as she said she was single for a long time because of that she admitted.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 07:29 PM
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it is haha you got me. "mention that about" i meant mention the talking point about. or "the thing about", dunno how the correct form could be. I'd have liked them to respond on that point. I also typed an incomplete broken sentence, I noticed now, "it's not like he he fears about being a creep" now I understand more their confusion and possibly understanding it as me accusing them of saying he was a creep. I was just concerned about him having already made in part his mind on women finding men …
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 07:26 PM
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Yes if you are not looking for an ally. Would you want another significant other upholding societal criterias which oppress us? Of course I'm not saying that about trying to have some drive, creativity, ambition, not strictly about money but interest in society, improving it, just about these strict materialistic criteria society praises. Of course letting oneself go is not positive I think too, I believe in body positive, for both women and men, ok often overlooked for men, that plus size and n…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 07:12 PM
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But it doesn't make sense red pillers also slut shame "promiscuous" (but for some 4 already are, or 2) women while lamenting this imbalance supposedly from women pickiness, they basically simultaneously say it's bio imperative for men to spread the site and have high body counts while at the same time supposedly "tarnishing" the women they have sex with, they create the entire premise for which there's little to no reward, from risks, to orgasm gap, to social shaming instead of praising like for…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 07:01 PM
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She replied me and told it was not about literally cold approaching 100 women to hope for a yes, that would have been a rp point, it seems she meant getting to know many, figuratively. But the overlap with that meme was big (:.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 06:53 PM
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Sorry, yeah I meant to say as a woman yourself. I didn't mean to come at you. I'm a man btw. I reacted this way because a red pill tenet was literally what you described so I couldn't assume you were not literal. My bad. Their point is the majority of men are unattractive to women so men have to run a number game and cast the biggest nets. It's also their point about online dating. I agree with that then, knowing more as people, exactly, discussing. Btw, I was not the only one seems eat flesh, t…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 06:51 PM
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You're reducing everything to basic materialist checkboxes, it's not like this and confidence is not always stereotypical confidence, there's also the confidence in not caring about the criteria of a part of society so obsessed with wealth and conventional attractiveness. It's about finding people that match, maybe I'd add if fat and short (I know it's an example) not basing yourself in wanting the model, because that would but neither thinking in leagues, it's not like one refuses the criteria …
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 06:42 PM
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Sorry then, though I'm confused as I didn't mean that you said he was a creep nor anything like that, I mentioned that those empathy that those might be his more pressing points, and as you often have quite thoughtful posts that might be helpful. I empathize because when red pillers mention that about "creepy if you are attractive" and "no attractive men are creepy" which is the corollary, they both outrage and discourage men "how unfair! How entitled these women! Life and evolution is unfair" o…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 06:35 PM
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Hi, that's possible, but it's also possible he just posts basic red pill points as he really wants them debunked. But I also see there must be the aspect of see women in part as sex toys if one is in the mindset of even considering sex workers, even as a last ditch, as if sex and not connection is the goal. Of course he mentions that to express feeling hopeless and as if that's the only solution because of the whole incel red pill point that it's all stacked against men. But yeah, talk to women …
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 06:25 PM
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What? 100 women? why as a woman yourself you believe it's such a number game for men, do you think men should not select and should be ok with any random woman as soon as supposedly one is ok? What about approaching women as human being, it should depend on the connection, not on approaching 100 random women, of course some don't work out and is fine, but do you think men are so unattractive to women he has to go through 100?
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 06:15 PM
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Hi, shouldn't we respond to the point that it's not like he he fears about being a creep for a approaching. A detailed response with women chiming in about the whole "having to be already attracted, I'm a creep if she's not already attracted" Edit: sorry bad construction. i meant "shouldn't we respond to the point of him fearing being a creep for approaching?" First off which level of attraction are we talking of for just talking and knowing each other. There are friendy approaches too. Yeah he'…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 06:11 PM
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Just apply the same to yourself, you're also being fucked by her, why would you have the power to devalue her. I mean you can't complain women are too picky (to them even more than they actually are on average) if that's the consideration when one is not
/r/ExRedPill10/09/23 01:57 AM
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Hi, not red pill, but I sorta get the point. I'm a man against tge idea we gotta innately objectify prioritizing looks, but I hope you can see a connection with a man without classist implications, like sure if the different education prevents compatibility but not a priori just cause of being he or she a barista and the other conventionallt higher class, what would that prevent, if there's compatibility of values and goals, complicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:45 AM
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Thanks, yeah sure they are attractive to you personally even without always fitting the conventional criteria and that's cool. Of course I apply the same to women. Despite red pill swears men would go basically with anyone. But I put that with "easier to get bad sex from uncaring and ungrateful men objectifying for which one is not "relationship material" but is good to "bust a nut" just for the . or if more traditionally attractive fetishizing your beauty or some isolated traid like nice breast…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:00 AM
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Hi, that's great and I wish you do find the best encounter and connection. Sorry mandatory question, not red pill here I premise, would you describe this guy you approached as "Chad", as in very tall, broad shouldered, etc., if these are, was it the case for all those you approached? As in the best conventionally looking to you? Red pillers here are convinced only a fraction of men would be approached as result of that. It's the new refrain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:10 AM
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Can I ask you why you think so, like how would they know they are red pill and their unhealthy views before approaching? You are making them think it would be a matter of not being top tier looks and like women would only approach them. But from what I know the relatively many women who are approaching men now, don't only approach "Chads" so what's the point you're trying to make? If they have a good fashion and take care of themselves like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:56 AM
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Hi, then it could be like "green pill", in a way? So you'd also say pickier which is fine, but curious if you mean pickier about safety, compatibility, having a man who is feminist, likes you for your personality, really admires you. Like I wish your current partner does. As said there are many reasons. Or pickier about looks? I think there's a lot of meeting in the middle with men learning to appreciate and be fascinate also by what women can do, and conflating the need to release with the need…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/23 10:45 PM
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Yeah, not end point, plus it's imho just one of many feminine preferences and at the end not even yours are that close to Rp tenets it seems :) I respect your preferences and expectations though I'm curious Dunno, my conception of dating tends to be of mutual regard. There was a say women love men desire and men desire women, but I don't believe that, I think society modeled the dynamics this way, maybe post industrial, making men consumers. so the man is "supposed" to desire you upon sight, ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:45 AM
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Well that's fine and cool, I'd guess most men would also like their look appreciated, what I mentioned was only being interested for your look, though it's normal being the first thing you can see upon approaching an that's the point. Then a man who's worth it likes you for more than that of course and like in the other case, so, it's a matter of getting to know him. It's just that if you think approaching yourself you can be objectified, the aformentioned is how you can be if he does the approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:49 PM
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But you contribute to them being incovenienced with this expectation, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:36 PM
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It's absolutely not true that any potentially interested man would be the one approaching, not much more than the reverse indeed. Neither it makes less likely they may use you. It's npt always the case but they might be approaching you just for the look. At most they might be the most forward. But then I'm not into red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:33 PM
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Hi, as usual, they don't listen women, you said that women simply are not putting up with disrespectful men and prefer being alone, but most would be welcoming a relationship with a supportive man which seriously appreciate her as person. What does he bring up, Brad Pitt (who's 60 now howeber carried well, what he's thinking?) and insist on hypergamy . He just thinks women in general want to use sec transactionally and he likes to flaunt and exibit that unhealthy opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:04 PM
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Don't follow trp generalizations of men behaviour, though it's ironic that red pill men accuse you of misandry. I really can't conceive in 2023 being a rule for women to play the passive game. Just talk to him, you may not even know yet, let it emerge. though this doesn't apply atm having a bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:06 PM
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Plus they don't understand that the more women were encouraged and not shamed the easier it would be for men as well, sp yeah the argument doesn't make sense, it's only trp and incel modern rationalization slut shaming being ok because it's easy. As said any of such shaming is what contributes in making it harder for men, which is counterproductive!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:52 PM
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As I thought neither of us are arguing environment and genetic only. Maybe it's cause biology is almost always brought to sort of terminate discussions about the social change. I.e. is this to mean boys will be boys? yeah I read about cultural reinforcement also having a base in biological predisposition to reinforce them as normality, but the people who deviate from that are a lot, a lot are or used to be corrected, we have now the competing forces of a part of cultural forces enforcing said be…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 07:21 PM
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Exactly, I'm also for the mindset of not seeking the pretty girl to win over. I'd even say treating her like any other person, being curious about everything about her. But there are stupid gender norms on the way for men to initiate almost everything, one might say. The important is flexibility, she wants you to make moves, she gotta need to show some enthusiasm, both in making herself an interesting person and showing she's enjoying your company and wanting more in way which emerge from the co…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 07:07 PM
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Of course agreeing in body strength, but on behaviours like dolls, toys, conflict we can't discard all societal pressure to enforce such differences, for being natural, it seems society has been really obsessesed on them emerging rather than letting them emerge naturally. The punishment from not conforming. I don't see culture separated from biology, so that innate factor define a predisposition to a socially elaborate and constructed jobs I'm not very convinced. Take food, hunger and sense tast…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 05:09 PM
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Why didn't you keep responding to him? He clearlt needed encouragement that simply some women uphold gender norms, but it's not women's nature. Why do many in this sub give up the dialogue immediately as soon as some men post experiences which seemingly align with trp views? Do you get that's how they prey on them? We don't need to tell them there are no women like that but that it's not a rule, neither are such women the majority especially if you date based on compatibility.
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 12:54 PM
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Ok I agree about this. Continue working one self, goals and ambitions, not necessarily all economical, not seek any woman but a compatible one. I.e. about the humour thing it's curious as it's too often framed as a male performance and her humour would be laughing and appreciating his humour, but what if I'd like her to have her active humour as well? But I'm noticing many incels in the last posts are afraid of being considered creepy. You know trp is about convincing men they are no good and re…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 12:28 PM
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The reason is not all biologically determined, remember that could be biodeterminism, which is not simply saying that biological difference are a factor but are the complete answers of social differences, leading to prejudices and socially enforced gender roles. Men can be great with kids it seems the job distribution can have many complex social causes, in the way men are viewed by societies. Maybe it's best to not default to biology for any x difference imho. You didn't strike me as into that …
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 12:02 PM
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Thanks for your thourough response, that was precious. Now I may be relatively inclined to feel like you about hookups, their gender norms for which they are important for men in general is bs, maybe I'd be less absolutist in general, the important is being clear and respecting the other. There's also having a playful intimacy to enjoy while it lasts and accepting there's not the full compatibility. ​ I just approached the women I liked and said "hi", then "let's go out" and then I kissed them a…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 02:52 AM
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thanks. I appreciated most tips anyway. See then that's the point, there can't be too many leaders, I know in many case it's about the competence and experience, so I dunno how be a leader can be feasible as tip. Striving to brcome one, for some people, or leader of their own project, but possibly without leaning your attractiveness on it.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/23 04:10 AM
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Yeah but it's better if that's not the main reason for dating to be better imho, at most working on it otherwise you are pressuring yourself in staving off dating as long as you feel inferior and undateable for your instability. The co leading thing was because if only one leads and it's so ne necessary, againg the sense of inadequacy and having to strenuously compete for the possibly unique leader role. This is why. But I take a good idea out of it, having personal project to work at, while at …
/r/ExRedPill21/08/23 03:31 AM
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It simply means there are some women like this, upholding patriarchal gender norms, which don't deserve us. Of course there's the emotional dump side. but all these "guess what i give up and just conform, just to have this woman"
/r/ExRedPill21/08/23 02:08 AM
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The one you were asking to in the the thread told me she finds many men attractive. Maybe the most logical thing is that it's indeed correct for some men and women and less so for others. For others again conventional attractiveness is less important than connections, within various ranges. People have wider or narrower physical types.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/23 09:20 PM
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Hi, this subthread has you responding to something I was itching to ask you. From your Op it's not clear if you mean that it's with red pill you could get casual hookups, but they weren't doing for you and like they were consuming you as ypu didn't find love in them. If so which part of red pill tenets you'd say you applied? Say you had to be manipulative, adversarial, dunno, as in what did you apply? Or that the connections you developed which led to intimacy were actually spontaneous and redpi…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/23 09:04 PM
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I don't think most men need to look their best or to be the most financially stable to attract women, so I agree with most except 1. 2. 5. sound too much about impressing women with look status amd leadership. unless you list them among the options npt the most important. but they can foster feeling of inadequacy in many men. 1.Better to frame it in expressing your style through fashion, taking care of skin 2. this can be a long laborious process, it's not like you need to have that assessed bef…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/23 11:52 AM
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I'm scratching my head on what your point is and on which point you disagree. My message was quite open to understanding and even a small concession and you just go adversarial. Are you a woman like your name seems to imply? If the logic is that it's either arranged marriage or else women go hypergamy, it's best to know that's bonkers.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/23 10:51 AM
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Yeah and they start believing in red - black pill as an explanation for such issues with women and developing misogynistic attitudes. Which in turn reinforce the self defeating condition keeping one "incel"
/r/ExRedPill20/08/23 02:18 AM
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I think they mean incel as in believing in red - black pill as an explanation for that and developing misogynistic attitudes. Which in turn reinforce the self defeating condition keeping one "incel"
/r/ExRedPill20/08/23 02:16 AM
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I hope you are aware that this is something incels want indeed to bring back as "solution" and they were problematic social costumes especially for women. You mean they could be good without the excessive familiar expectations and meddling.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/23 02:11 AM
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"most men would not believe a woman if complimented." not believe is the keyword and you hit the point, if you believe the redpill and that most women find most men unattractive, but only a subset you are not into, of course you could not believe they'd be serious, because this empowering phylosophy tell men self defeating self sabotaging beliefs, as explanations for moments of frustration and vulnerability.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/23 02:02 AM
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Hi, I'm afraid he's meaning the 20% or less subset of men, you know the whole redpill idea that women find 80% of men unattractive. And this would be a reason he thinks, "most men would not believe". This very phrasing is the keywork of that mindset, red pill reinforces for men already feeling unattractive that it's their destiny and that they indeed irredeemably are unless they get rich, manipulative or what. I dunno if he really believe this rp tenet or what
/r/ExRedPill20/08/23 01:57 AM
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The problem may be if he only stays with them being so much younger for their youth, that would be creepy and not just cause they happened to click. It's important to regard women personality as high as looks at least to be attracted to a complete human being.
/r/ExRedPill03/08/23 04:06 PM
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About 3. men as provider, it's important that while it's harder for men to lean into, it's also getting more important and it doesn't mean all women are going for chads and are going hypergamous because they don't have the incentive for patriarchal bargain or simply needing his contribute for survival, the Trp preys on this insecurity but in most cases it's actually more about having a better connection where partner are equals, support each other and are a joy to be around, of course with all t…
/r/ExRedPill03/08/23 04:02 PM
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