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"Even when they think of “modest” clothing, they’re thinking of some form fitting dress that shows off curves and figure even if it doesn’t show boob cleavage or ass hanging out" Are you a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:47 AM
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"That’s a bit much. " No it's not. At all. Just because men also lack self-awareness it doesn't mean women don't
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:45 AM
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did you not graduate from middle school or something? inflated: excessively or unreasonably high Standard: a level of quality or attainment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:42 AM
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"And why would women lie about how men should dress. That's really bizarre." lol imagine being so fucking stupid that you're a woman asking a man why women behave the way they do 😂😂😂. I have no idea, you tell me why women lie constantly about the dumbest shit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:35 AM
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I don't know about any of that, I'm just saying the idea that women are self-aware is absolutely ludicrous in 2025
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:33 AM
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lol, classic woman. *somebody makes a legitimate point* "oh yeah? Well I don't talk to losers, so there!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:30 AM
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lol manipulation: men use bmi all the time to say women are fat accusations: you're attacking me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:20 AM
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lol are you really this dumb? Women will lie about how men should dress, men won't lie about how women would dress
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:19 AM
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"women...becoming self aware." lol good one. Women are so lacking in self-awareness they'll quite literally simultaneously say it shouldn't be a problem for people to leave their partners if they're no longer attracted, but also that a man leaving a woman for getting fat after pregnancy is despicable. They'll literally say they'd rather end a relationship than work on, but also that a man leaving a woman over minor disagreements is horrible
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:13 AM
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Men prefer *modestly dressed* women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:11 AM
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I'd generally agree. But this question specifically is one where women will lie and men will be honest because women are desperate to uphold their facade of being morally virtuous compared to the evil men who aren't evolved enough to overcome their biological urges
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:06 AM
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lol you're confusing men with women 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:56 AM
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"Dating is a numbers game after all, the more men that approach you the more likely you are to find 'the one.'” You're the first woman I've seen understand this. Incredible how many women weren't taught basic math and logic and think having more options makes it less likely to find a partner than having less options
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:49 AM
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So are you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:42 AM
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Yep. If that's your attitude, don't fucking get married. It's really not that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:23 AM
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If that's an attack, then you saying that me saying you want self-pity is an attack, is an attack. Very hypocritical of you to go attacking people when you're constantly telling other people not to attack
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 12:16 AM
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Why waste everyone's time if you're just going to divorce the first time you have a disagreement because you don't want to "work" on the relationship? Hopefully you at least tell the poor guy who has to deal with you that you're going to leave him as soon as the first difficulty arises
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:55 PM
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lol the self pity is you saying me saying BMI is a bad measure of obesity is an attack. Just constantly, always, so incredibly desperate for men to be bad and women good so you can be a victim and feel bad for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:48 PM
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Okay. And for a lot of people going into a marriage thinking about getting divorced does make it meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:07 PM
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"she's refering to specific conversations with specific people with no sources." And then will add parts of different conversations together and convince herself it was one person saying all these contradictory things so she has something to post about since it's been 12 hours since her last one and she's about to die from the detox of it if she doesn't get her fix soon
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:57 PM
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"'I like a woman who takes care of herself' is just a scared person's way of saying 'I don't like fat chicks.'" Speak for yourself, coward
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:27 PM
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I agree. Really weird you want to date someone like that, but go off sis
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:22 PM
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Because people like you talk about how you should be thinking about getting divorced while being proposed to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:13 PM
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You...you just said you wouldn't want someone to date you if they didn't find you attractive anymore? Women! So fucking stupid they end up agreeing with the person they've argued a really fucking stupid point against for no reason other than they're a woman and need to argue because woman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:05 PM
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Just letting you know using BMI is an awful metric for judging if someone is overweight " It’s funny that men are all questioning the significance of BMI when it comes to male bodies but then a female body who is a little overweight is terrible to them and they use BMI as a justification." There's really no end to your self-pity, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:57 PM
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Okay. Still not sure what any of this has to do with women telling men to stop thinking with their dicks and make male friends, but...okay!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:31 PM
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Okay? Not sure what that has to do with women constantly telling men to stop thinking with their dicks and make some friends, but...okay? Well observed, I guess? Here's a pat on the head and a lollipop for being clever enough to almost stay on topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 11:38 AM
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The second guy I'd definitely call fat. And BMI is a terrible metric to use to judge how fat someone is. Every professional body builder on the planet will be "obese" according to BMI, but they're less than 10% body fat
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 10:41 AM
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Why is it only women who develop this bizarre disorder where different people saying different things somehow transform into one person who isn't actually real to justify treating people cruelly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:00 PM
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okay
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:55 PM
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I mean, what you said makes no sense. Learn to communicate better, numb nuts
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:51 PM
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"We can discuss people who aren’t on this sub" lol that makes no fucking sense, but okay, go off sis, keep digging those rabbit holes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:42 PM
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It sounds like you're saying that all men get out of a romantic relationship is sex. Which is not how the vast majority of people feel
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:41 PM
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Then why did you say that men who are romantically lonely really just want sex? It's just you who's so cynical that romance equates to sex, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:20 PM
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Because we all know what we're talking about here. At least I thought so. Maybe you didn't catch on?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:11 PM
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Okay. How sad for you that your life is so cynical as to find romance insincere. Why do you assume all men are just like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:09 PM
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Of course not, I'm not a monster, unlike women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:03 PM
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Not sure what that has to do with anything I said, but...okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:02 PM
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"but women believe they care about personality and sense of humor. I do genuinely believe you think you do, is a cognitive dissonance than most women have." lol imagine being so fucking stupid that someone literally spells out to you what you're doing, and you still can't figure it out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:11 PM
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So sad that the women here are so emotionally stunted that they only view romance through a sexual lens. For men, a relationship is about a lot more than just sex. So sad that your conception of romance starts and ends with the genitalia between someone's legs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:04 PM
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lol i'm definitely not red pill, but I know enough to know you have no idea what you're saying but are too busy fellating yourself for being so edgy and daring to speak out against the red pill under the anonymity of the internet to figure that out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:01 PM
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"No one is saying that friends and family are a cure, they are suggesting them as treatment to lessen the severity of loneliness and depression. That has been made abundantly clear." lol you haven't been paying attention because "stop thinking with your dick and make some friends" is literally the default response men get when they say they're lonely. Women are so incapable of understanding romantic affection that they continuously get confused and think men just mean sex when they say they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:56 PM
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lol no it's not, you're so dumb 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:52 PM
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lol are you really so stupid you need this spelled out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:51 PM
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"Are we policing how people are and aren't allowed to feel now, what counts as a "real feeling" or not..." you're just realizing? 😂😂😂 God it's hilarious how oblivious women are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:50 PM
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Jesus fucking christ nobody says it is. Stop being so determined to be a victim 24/7 that you're hallucinating made up things into existence to feel oppressed by
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:48 PM
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lol you said only an idiot would assume a lesbian dates other women. All I'm saying is only an idiot would think someone is an idiot for assuming a lesbian dates other women. It's really not that complicated, I'd say I don't know how you're getting so confused, but you do think assuming a lesbian dates women makes one an idiot, so I guess that's how
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:39 PM
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lol assuming lesbians date women doesn't require critical thinking. Are you really so slow that you need to sit down and think critically to be able to figure out lesbians date women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:25 PM
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lol it doesn't require an education to know that a lesbian is a woman who dates other women 😂. If you need a whole education to figure that out, you're even dumber than being dumb enough to think assuming a lesbian dates women makes one an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:23 PM
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"But people have a right to define their boundaries" But they don't have the right to unfairly label someone a "creep" for having boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:15 PM
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Okay. I'm just saying, you have to be a really special kind of stupid to think assuming lesbian's would date women makes one an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:13 PM
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"Entitled is the key word for many straight and bi women." Yup, even OP labelling this entitled shows her entitlement. This is standard issue shit men deal with. This girl is a breath of fresh air, if anything, yet to other women she comes off as "gross and entitled"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:09 PM
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She's just a woman seeing how women act from a man's perspective. Amazing how quick they go to "gross and entitled" without realizing this woman is nowhere close to as bad as most. Brutal out here for straight men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:06 PM
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lol welcome to life as a straight man, tough out here surrounded by nothing but gross, entitled women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:04 PM
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"Think they all hopped the fence and immediately started getting slapped around" Yes. Obviously. At least that's more likely than disregarding the study completely for no reason other than "feels!" like you're doing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:59 AM
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"you idiots ran with it assuming all the partners of lesbians were other women. " lol assuming a lesbian is dating a woman doesn't make someone an idiot. Only an idiot would think that. If a lesbian is dating a man, the only idiot in that equation is the lesbian for being too stupid to realize she's attracted to women, not the people assuming a lesbian would date other women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:54 AM
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"How can a lesbian dress for the sole purpose of male validation if she is only attracted to women?" I really hope you're just pretending to be this stupid. Like, please, please, please be at home, naked, covered in pig grease jerking yourself off over how brilliant you are for trolling with such a pitifully stupid example. If you're not trolling and this is sincerely the speed at which your brain operates....please get help, you've been living unassisted for far too long
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:49 AM
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"I don’t think anyone is saying they are a substitute" Women love to. There's practically a post a day from a woman asking why men aren't just friends with each other if they're so lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:57 AM
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They're talking about the people who don't make it to the first date stage, numb nuts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:11 PM
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She's really fucking stupid and should go outside more then
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 01:17 PM
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Sure. It's just sad that literally the only thing she cares about in a relationship is sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:07 AM
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Yeah I’m confused, I thought we all knew this already
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:45 AM
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The only reason you enter relationships is for sex? That’s sad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:08 PM
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lol why are you dating him then 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:02 PM
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"The part you’re quoting doesn’t contradict what I’ve said" lol if you say so 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:19 PM
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"ou are slow confirmed. I’m not saying “don’t listen to his opinion because it’s based on nothing and unsupported”" "His little chart doesn’t mean shit in the grand scheme of things because it’s ultimately just his random ass opinion" Oh, okay. Saying that was a weird choice then. Also weird to call me slow because of it...projection perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:59 PM
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"Don't listen to his opinion because it's based on nothing and unsupported! But you should listen to my opinion, which is also based on nothing and unsupported!" Seems pretty hypocritical to me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:40 PM
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"So what does that tell you here…" That it's funny how hypocritical your argument is? I thought I already said that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:34 PM
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lol bro I'm literally just saying it's funny to go at someone for having no proof of their argument then present an argument with no proof and act like it's legit. I'm not saying anything about how legit or not legit Maslow is, I have no idea. The blatant hypocrisy is just funny, that's all. It's really not that deep, I promise
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:21 PM
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lol I realize, take a chill pill dog, you're going to give yourself a heart attack getting so worked up 😂😂😂. I just think it's funny to say an actual scientist who has done actual science has no logic, explanation, or evidence to back up his assertions, and then go on a rant and do the exact same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:08 PM
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"in his opinion. But he’s wrong...His little chart doesn’t mean shit in the grand scheme because it’s ultimately just his random ass opinion with zero logical reasoning, concrete explanation, or evidence to even back up his assertions." *OP goes on to write several more paragraphs stating his opinion with zero logical reasoning, concrete explanation, or evidence to even back up his assertions.* 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:21 PM
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Nah, I totally agree. Turns out telling everyone the most important thing in life is your own "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" isn't the best idea for a country of 300+ million people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:10 PM
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"because only Americans can make such dumbass arguments." As an American, this checks out hard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:44 PM
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lol you're the one doing that. If sex and the human contact that comes from it isn't a need, then you should have no problem with solitary confinement. But you don't. Because, you know, being locked in a room by yourself seems mean and hurts your feelings. So funny your stances are incredibly inconsistent and based purely on emotion and you're telling other people they need to be more logical and less emotional
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:42 PM
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Pretty sad how we're totally content with setting the baseline of treating other people at tossing them into a hole with just enough food and water to survive and saying that's good enough. I think we'd all be better off if we started thinking of happiness as a need. But you're all fucking monsters so I'm not surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:39 PM
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Glad somebody did!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:19 PM
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lol the person you attempted to respond to said women hate men who glow up. Your response? "have you seen how men degrade women." See how that has nothing to do with women hating men who glow up? But you got confused because you can't read very well
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:01 PM
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"In all the comments, the men refuse to take accountability and blame women for all their shortcomings." lol literally not a single comment is doing this, what are you talking about? Are y'all so delusional you hallucinate comments into existence so you have something to be mad at men about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:55 PM
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lol why do you just say the same thing over and over when it's completely unrelated to the topic of discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:45 PM
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"You saying “you can’t read!l and “reading skills are so bad” and “poor reading skills” are all personal attacks." No they're not, I'm just saying what's happening. Saying things that are happening aren't attacks. It's just saying what's happening
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:21 PM
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"I didn’t." lol but I wasn't talking about makeup, remember? You just thought that because you can't read! Reading skills are so bad that even after explaining how you missed the point due to your poor reading skills, you still can't grasp it! Hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:36 PM
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Actually, you posting this proves I'm right since I was referring to your lack of reading skills and you responded with make-up, showing you are, in fact, bad at reading! Thanks for the help
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:12 PM
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Good try, you were sort of close!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:03 PM
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Me too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:53 PM
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She can't read, don't worry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:47 PM
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lol still skimming I guess. Very hypocritical, I must say, to make false accusations then do the thing you're falsely accusing others of
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:42 PM
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"what’s the alternative?" That's what I'm trying to figure out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:42 PM
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lol you keep skimming my posts. I've already explained multiple times there's nothing to counter
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:41 PM
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lol that was as thorough as I could get, I don't know how you could possibly sum it up in a more complex way than that. Maybe come up with better topics and posts instead of doing the same one over and over if you don't want people to say you're doing the same post over and over?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:31 PM
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"If you’re building a solid life (hobbies, friendships, goals) you might still feel lonely sometimes, but you won’t be as crippled by it. That’s the key difference" This has not been my experience. At all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:29 PM
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lol I already did. Guess you missed that too because you skimmed "Uhh because they're both about how being nice isn't enough to date and if you think so you're the problem"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:01 PM
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lol I didn't skim, but maybe you did since I already said that and you didn't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:43 PM
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I thought it might help to remind you you already made this post. Guess I was wrong, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:37 PM
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"But the alternative—treating a relationship as the only solution—puts you in a position where your happiness depends on external factors you can’t fully control. That’s what leads to desperation, and desperation rarely gets good results in dating." Being lonely for a long time also leads to desperation, doesn't necessarily have anything to do with whether or not you see it as your only source of happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:32 PM
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There's nothing to say. Your post boils down to "adults should know more than children." I agree, adults should know more than children. Not sure who you're expecting to disagree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:29 PM
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"You can build a life that’s genuinely fulfilling without a relationship being the only thing that makes it feel complete" Like I said, this sounds great in theory, but in reality it's much harder if you're lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:26 PM
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This sounds nice, but I don't think you can realistically feel like you're truly "thriving" if you're lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:14 PM
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I think the problem is there is no counter argument. The post boils down to "you should know more as an adult than a child." Which...no fucking shit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:07 PM
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lol priests and nuns being unable not to sexually abuse kids at the cost of eternal damnation is just about the strongest argument there is for people going without sex being "fine." So fine they'd rather burn in hell for all eternity than not fuck a child. Yep, doing super duper fine over there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:59 PM
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Uhh because they're both about how being nice isn't enough to date and if you think so you're the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:53 PM
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Exact same one as 12 hours ago this time! Mods out there jerking themselves off over Lilith's identical posts
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:47 PM
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And also to someone who read thoroughly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:46 PM
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"People would be happier if they were happier" What brilliant insight, OP, truly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:46 PM
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lol I guess you forgot you already made this post
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:33 PM
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lol imagine doing all your grocery shopping in a dumpster then being confused about why the food isn't good
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:08 AM
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Because 1 bad meal in five months is better than starving?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:05 AM
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lol why would I waste my time sending words to someone who can't read?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:25 AM
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"It is hard for me to feel like society lied to us when we all have eyeballs and can see." You can't see personality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:23 AM
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"Well, isn't that obvious?" lol why would that be obvious when, as a boy growing up in America, all you hear is women complaining about how awful men are and they just want to find someone nice to date? Where is this weird revisionist history where women are now trying to pretend at least one generation of boys wasn't raised on the maxim "looks don't matter" coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:20 AM
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"Big forehead slap here. It does matter unless you yourself don't want a kind partner." lol your reading comprehension really fucking sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:03 AM
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Damn I guess asking for two clever responses was too much
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:42 PM
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That's actually pretty clever, be a troll, then say anyone who calls you a troll clearly just has no counter argument to your trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:12 PM
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Are homophobia and transphobia no longer problems in our society?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 01:10 PM
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lol no you just don't know how to think You cited a comment saying men aren't happy for other men in relationships I cited a comment from real life saying the opposite You said I'm lying because I'm online I said the comment you read was the lie, because it's online Then your brain short circuited or something, I don't know
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 01:08 PM
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lol sorry I destroyed your argument so thoroughly your only response is to pretend I'm mentally ill
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 01:03 PM
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"Sometimes, under anonymity, people really speak their mind." Right. You said people often lie under anonymity. I'm saying this person who said they can't be happy for other men who get into relationships may not have been really speaking his mind. I'm really not sure what you're so confused about or why that's bad faith? Im literally just agreeing that the comment you read may not have been honest
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:58 PM
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Oh, okay. You said you read a comment online, under anonymity. You also said people often make dishonest comments under anonymity. Therefore, the comment you read under anonymity may have been dishonest. This is pretty basic logic, not sure how you think that's gymnastics
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:50 PM
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Huh? You said you read a comment. You said people often make dishonest comments on the internet. Therefore, the comment you read may have been dishonest. This is pretty basic logic, not sure how you think that's gymnastics
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:46 PM
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"So you’re over simplifying the issue, got it." Only because you are "At this point, I realize you’re just going to actually ignore my arguments" Huh? your argument was that people who care about their problems do something about it and solve them. The problems I listed aren't solved, so, therefore, according to your own logic, that means they must not care. Personally I think it's much more likely they just don't know what to do or how to make the changes they want, but I guess you think they j…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:44 PM
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Agreed! Which is why it's more likely the comment you read wasn't honest than the person I heard wasn't honest
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:41 PM
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Fair enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:37 PM
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"Theyre richer than they were previous." but you said if they cared they'd solve the problem, so they must not care "Because the issue is actually illegal immigrant and legal immigrants hate them. In fact, Trump and Elon want more high skilled immigrants " but you said if they cared they'd solve the problem, so they must not care "They got gay marriage, more mainstream acceptance, and more LGBT in younger generations thanks to more acceptance. There are also less conversion therapy." but you sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:33 PM
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So do men. See, not gendered
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:25 PM
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"Created revolutions. Some not good like the communist revolution and the french revolution, but they grouped together and made history." But there are still poor people in America. All they do is complain about billionaires, but I guess they don't really care or else they wouldn't be poor "There was recently A Day Without Immigrants march in America to protest Trump’s deportations." Then why aren't their problems solved? "There was an LGBT movement. In America, the most famous figure in the Ame…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:24 PM
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Okay. Then I guess we can say the same for every other group struggling. Poor? Willful ignorance. An immigrant? Willful ignorance. Gay? Willful ignorance. Not white? Willful ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:15 PM
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*people have never given a fuck about other people,* you mean. Let's not pretend this is a gendered issue
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:13 PM
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"Saying “I don’t know”’is a cop out." I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:11 PM
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If memory serves, it was at a restaurant
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:11 PM
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Right, I'm saying it's not lack of caring, it's ignorance. Just like how poor people vote to keep themselves poor. Would you say poor people don't care about being poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:09 PM
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Okay. I'm talking about real life, which I think means there's a lot more validity to my claim than yours
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:06 PM
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It was real life
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:04 PM
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I've heard women say the same thing. So I guess women can't sincerely cheer for each other either
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:03 PM
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Your argument was that they don't care, not that they aren't paying attention. Not paying attention doesn't prove they don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 12:00 PM
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"That means theyre not paying attention. I gave examples in the post" The majority of men aren't reading your posts "For example?" The poorest states vote against social programs and government help when they would benefit from them the most "Then counter any of my 10 examples." Not all men voted for Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:56 AM
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Not knowing how to make change doesn't mean you don't care. People in America vote against their interests constantly because they don't know what they're voting for. Same here, I think. It's not that men don't care, it's that they don't know how to turn that caring into actual change
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:51 AM
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Not caring is different from being stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:41 AM
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"a date isn’t a contractual agreement, it’s a social courtesy." If the person asking is required to pay, that sounds a lot closer to a contract than a social courtesy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:29 AM
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lol says the guy who thinks the person who has two people willing to go on a date with them has a better chance of meeting someone than the person who has ten people willing to go on a date with them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:13 AM
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lol imagine not understanding basic math and logic and thinking you're smarter than other people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:11 AM
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lol imagine being so dumb that after being told something went over your head you think something went over someone else's head 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:09 AM
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I have no idea, you're the one who brought up data
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:09 AM
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Still better to have a needle to find in the hay stack than no needle to find
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:08 AM
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lol imagine being so dumb that after being told something went over your head you think something went over someone else's head 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:07 AM
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You said the data can't be right because they have to be dating each other. I'm saying the data can be right because they aren't dating each other lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:06 AM
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lol yes it does, that's how numbers work, numb nuts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:05 AM
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They date people who aren't Gen Z? Thinking 100% of the Earth's population is Gen Z and that it's impossible for members of Gen Z to date outside Gen Z has to be some kind of fallacy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:04 AM
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"You can have the last word" Okay. So fucking funny how many people on PPD don't understand basic english and think words can just mean whatever they want them to mean 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:02 AM
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"No, they are both on the date with each other" I thought you said she wouldn't be there if he wasn't paying? If he left he wouldn't be getting his half of the transaction, he would just be giving her money 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:49 AM
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"A transaction involves buying and selling a good or service" Right. Man provide money, woman provide service of date. Like I said, definition of a transaction "What is he buying, specifically? What is she selling, specifically?" Her time and attention. Duh. If he pays, she'll give it. If not, she won't. Transaction
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:46 AM
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Right, which is why having more options is better. God this is hilarious. You just explained to yourself why your position makes no fucking sense 😂😂😂. Glad you sorted yourself out though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:41 AM
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lol your feelings don't change how numbers and facts work 😂😂😂. If you want to find a partner, having more options increases your chances of finding a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:40 AM
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lol if the discussion is the disparity in dating between the genders, discussing which gender goes on more dates is not a fallacy. It's just the discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:38 AM
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right, but saying something isn't something doesn't make it true. For example, I can say the sun is not a star. That does not mean the sun, in reality, isn't a star just because I said so
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:34 AM
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lol hiding the transaction behind the guise of a "condition" doesn't somehow mean it's not a transaction 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:31 AM
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" but likewise I would really like to know if the person I'm sexually attracted to is not some kind of phycopath." So then why do you have a problem with men doing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:27 AM
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"If a woman has a man paying as a condition of her continued interest and compatibility, I wouldn't call that transactional." lol that's literally the definition of a transaction. Amazing the number of people on PPD who don't understand basic english and think words can just mean whatever they want them to mean regardless of the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:24 AM
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No fucking shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:03 PM
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"I disagree. I can love my mom and my dad at the same time. In polygamous societies there are husbands who live all of their wives at the same time." In those scenarios you don't have to choose between them. In this one you do. Another definition of conflict: "a condition in which a person experiences a clash of opposing wishes or needs." Which loving someone but never being able to see them would be
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:47 AM
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Unless you can completely turn off and forget about one love before embracing the other one, there is a conflict. Like I said, loving two people simultaneously is the literal definition of a conflict
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:55 PM
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Right, you thought your mattress was perfect for you, you realized it was not and a better one for you exists. Something is wrong. Loving someone while maybe loving someone else more is the literal definition of a conflict
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:30 PM
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That would be realizing you don't love your mattress as much as you thought, which by your own definition would mean something is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:27 PM
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If everything is going well and you still love the person, why would you leave the relationship? I'm truly confused
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:24 PM
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"There's nothing wrong with that either." Exactly. I guess I understand the "do it for you, not everyone else," thing, but I've also heard too many of the most accomplished people of all time say that fucking hot people was one of their primary motivations to work so hard to think it means much. All the self-love in the world ain't going to overpower 3.5 billion years of evolution
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:53 PM
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Right, hence why those qualities are attractive. I'm not saying they DON'T help for a long term relationship, I'm saying I don't think most women would put those at the very top of the list of things they want from a long term partner. I think that's where kindness, understanding, being supportive, etc comes in and starts to matter more
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:08 PM
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I mean they don’t hurt. But I’ve never heard couples who stay together for decades say that confidence and charisma were the reasons for that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:36 PM
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lol the words she used mean that’s what the grammar is, I don’t get to decide that. But I can see how you’d be confused since you don’t understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:34 PM
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lol wishing you the best and hoping you over come your language difficulties isn’t snarky, it’s kind. But perhaps you don’t know what snarky means either
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:32 PM
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I don’t know what you’re trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:08 PM
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“ You do understand basic English” Unlike you 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:07 PM
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✌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:59 PM
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Damn my bad, I guess you did lie
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:57 PM
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No it’s not, that’s past imperfect which is something happening from the past and has continued into the present. Not smart to bring up grammar if you don’t know the rules
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:54 PM
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lol I never called you a liar, I said what you said is impossible. People can make mistakes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:50 PM
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lol I took it all as present tense. That was my point. It’s not possible for him to, in the present, do nothing but sleep, work, and game, but also have friends and not struggle romantically, as her comment suggested. You were the one who said she obviously doesn’t mean what she is saying and in the past he had friends and girlfriends but currently is choosing not to. The revisionist history is hilarious though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:37 PM
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lol I think you forgot you’re the one making a bunch of assumptions and I’m the one taking what she said at face value 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:13 PM
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Best of luck to you. I hope you find someone who can help you with your struggles to understand what words mean
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:11 PM
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I do. No differentiation was made between the psst and the present. You are imagining it and saying it has to be true, but unfortunately wanting your imagination to be reality does not make it so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:06 PM
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You’re getting way too upset about this. It’s really not that serious
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:05 PM
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Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, she was asked to clarify what “all the time meant, and that was her answer. If that’s not literally what she meant, she shouldn’t have said it. You can’t say something and tell people they are wrong for taking it literally, that’s not how communication works
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 02:04 PM
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Right, which is why I’m saying representing him as someone who has spent his whole life doing nothing but sleeping, gaming, and working is disingenuous. So weird to get so angry about something you agree with me on, but go off sis
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:52 PM
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“ It’s hilarious that you take he chooses to game every free moment, apply that to every past moment of his life,” Thats…what she said? That was my point. That can’t actually be true. I’m not sure how you weren’t able to grasp that, but I’m glad you agree now that you have
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:47 PM
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sigh are you really this dumb? She said all he does is sleep, work, and game. This is literally impossible if he also “has no trouble with women,” unless that means he has no trouble interacting with the female characters in the games he plays
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:39 PM
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Read it wrong. Point still stands, it’s a total lie. If her brother actually only worked, slept, and played video games he wouldn’t have a gf. It literally isn’t possible for that to be true. He obviously has a lot more going on in life that this lady is pretending (or forgot or doesn’t know?) he does
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:30 PM
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“ And I do mean every” Now obviously this isn’t remotely true because if it was you never would have spoken to him, let alone dated him. At least I hope not. A relationship that consists entirely of him playing video games while you watch doesn’t sound very fulfilling
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:54 PM
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Yeah sadly the things that make men attractive to women (confidence, charisma, capability) aren’t the same things that make a man a good long term partner and this will always make dating hard for humans
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:31 PM
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Enough that pretending it was only men who voted for him is delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:19 PM
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I just feel like I’ve seen a lot recently of people acting like trump being elected was a conscious effort of men nationwide banding together to make it happen, which is obviously insane
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:02 PM
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Right but that word doesn’t mean what you think it means, which means every time you use it, you use it wrong, which makes things very confusing for all of us
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:00 PM
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Huh. Okay. Guess it’s not worth engaging with you. It’s extremely hard to have a coherent conversation with someone who continually misuses words
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:48 AM
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sigh so exhausting having women set up bad faith arguments (eg saying boring = hatred) that you know will get a certain reaction, then complaining about that reaction and pretending it wasn’t exactly what you wanted so you can always be a victim and men can always be bad How is it not tiring for you, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:18 AM
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I completely agree. Glad I could help you understand the difference between “hate” and “bored”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:11 AM
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I think you might be mistaking “hate” with another word? Hate: feel intense or passionate dislike for Bored: feeling weary because one is unoccupied or lacksinterest in one's current activity. See how those don’t really mean the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:33 PM
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Oh well then switch for that. Saying being bored isn’t hate isn’t hateful, it’s just disagreeing that being bored is hateful
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:14 PM
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“ ou are making a bad faith argument.” I’m not even making an argument. I’m explaining that people disagreeing that being bored is abuse weren’t being hateful, they just disagree that being bored is abuse “ because you’re upset.” Projection
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:06 PM
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I think they just meant that 99.99999% of people don’t consider being bored while grocery shopping abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:50 PM
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lol I promise you I’m not. Are you really not able to connect the dots of taller men being more attractive than their shorter counter parts and why men care about height?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:26 PM
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“ 6'3 fat guy was going to be more attractive than a 5'5 fat guy” I still don’t understand where your confusion is coming from. You keep explaining exactly why men obsess over height
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:08 PM
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Hitting me with the “we already explained this” about something totally unrelated that hasn’t been explained came off as aggressive, my bad for misreading it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:41 PM
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What? Why so aggressive? I was saying I’ve heard women say the opposite and that they “just know” when a guy is a creepy when really they have no idea. Of course that’s ridiculous, but some women pretend they can intuitively sense things they can’t really
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:22 PM
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“ Yeah I always found it weird when guys obsess over height” “ That being said, I did feel that bigger guys tended to attract more women when they were taller” I’m so confused
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:12 PM
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Do you have a medical issue that prevents you from losing weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:11 PM
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“ If he doesn’t act like an asshole when he’s around her ever how should she just know he is?” I 100% agree, but it is funny the number of women I’ve heard say they “just know” when a guy is a creep because women can intuitively sense those things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 06:49 PM
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Not sure what that has to do with your self-esteem being so low you have to make up fairytales to bash strangers on the internet to feel better about yourself, but...okay? Thanks for telling me your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:01 PM
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Not sure what that has to do with your self-esteem being so low you have to make up fairytales to bash strangers on the internet to feel better about yourself, but...okay? Thanks for telling me your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 01:38 PM
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Right, but if it were lower than that, you'd be doing what you're doing. Which is giving up on the grind and instead insulting it because it's better to make up fairy tales and insult than just give up
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 01:23 PM
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lol your self-esteem must be really fucking low to be making up these fairytales to bash make believe people to feel better about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:16 PM
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"The guys that do this type of social organization end up getting coupled up" Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I do that stuff. Got all my friends coupled up. Never helped me at all. Some people just can't be cared about, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:10 PM
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"What's even crazier is that there are women in real life who I talk to who feel disrespected when a guy they're not attracted to comes up to them." Truly fucking insane behavior How did we manage to raise a generation of women who are so full of themselves that they consider it an insult instead of a compliment when someone wants to talk to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:43 AM
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lol that literally is a false dichotomy, which is a logical fallacy, the fuck are you talking about 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:40 AM
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lol even for you this is great bait
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:26 AM
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"The only reason men are complaining they are lonely is because the can’t get a woman they are attracted to to fuck them." No it's not, but this is a nice, neat oversimplification
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:14 AM
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You're not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:11 AM
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Just saying, comparing us to other species maybe won’t work as well as you want because there’s a whole bunch of shit we’ve done that nobody else has
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:06 PM
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I hear ya. Very cool
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:02 PM
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Yes! Extremely astute observation!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:55 PM
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Idk, I know someone who did this and his thinking was that having a kid with someone is a bigger sign of commitment than a piece of paper that lets you file taxes together. He wasn’t against marriage, he was just indifferent because it doesn’t mean much compared to deciding to raise a child with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:23 PM
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I'm aware, I read the title
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:39 PM
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I didn't mean you specifically, I meant it's a trend in general
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:21 PM
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I know. Yet men are convinced the left doesn't care about them. That's not the fault of those men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:20 PM
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lol I got the point of his post the whole time, clearly. Better than OP does, and you it seems like you too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:47 PM
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Yes, which is why this weird thing of solely blaming men for Trump being elected makes no sense. Women, LGBTQ, POC all voted for Trump even though it goes against their interests. Americans fucking love to vote for people who will make their lives worse
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:44 PM
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"These men won't vote Democrat because they believe it makes them more feminine to do so even though leftists want to look out for everybody whereas Republicans want to look out for nobody" Actually it's because they no longer believe the left cares about them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:42 PM
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Okay. People have always voted against their own interests. It's basically an American past time. You could write this same exact post every single time red states vote conservative and against social programs despite being the poorest states in the country who would most benefit from those programs. You could write this post to women who voted for Trump, and thus against their own interests. Or POC, or LGBTQ folks. Literally the same post just swap out "men" with "woman/poc/lgbtq." This is what…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:30 PM
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lol you're going to be fucking shocked when you find out women voted for Trump too
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:15 PM
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You....collect screenshots? That's cool. I can see stamps and coins no longer being that interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:28 PM
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Building spaceships is also pretty unusual for earth's populations
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:27 PM
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So interesting. By believing all the worst things about men, you are now acting like a caricature of all the bad things men believe about women. Though my guess is you'd say the reason you want men gone is because of the things they think of women. While doing exactly the things that makes them think those things. Yet I'd imagine you'd also argue no woman actually thinks like that which is why you want men who do think that gone. While doing the things that make them think that. So interesting!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:22 AM
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You said it was a different type of caring, whatever that means. I’m saying it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:16 PM
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lol you can’t even tell the difference between knowing something about someone and not knowing anything about someone, trust me you aren’t holding anyone accountable for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:15 PM
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lol no I’m not, you really love trying to put words in my mouth, huh? The people who are my friends I care about more than people who are strangers. That’s the only difference
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:01 PM
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“ You care in an abstract sense, but it’s a different kind of care.” lol no I don’t, I go out of my way to help people all the time, what an insane thing to assume about a stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:53 PM
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Of course not, but I still care. The farther outside the top 30% you are, the more I care
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:50 PM
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“ I have a hard time believing this.” I know, because you’re a woman. I already explained this, remember? “ women are so incapable of it they can’t even fathom that being capable of it is possible (hence your question)”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:45 PM
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lol it’s a joke. Because of how ridiculous this question is. Of course men care about women outside the top 30%, just because women are so incapable of it they can’t even fathom that being capable of it is possible (hence your question), doesn’t mean men are as awful
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:30 PM
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lol I really hope you're just purposely being thick now to avoid admitting you were wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:04 PM
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lol I called you fucking weird for going through people's post history, but as always you twist and make things up to make some totally separate point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:47 PM
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lol OP is talking about people you know nothing about, but no matter how many times I point that out, all you can say is "but post history...." You refuse (or are just incapable) to engage on this on OP's actual terms, which is someone you know nothing about, not someone who's post history you've looked through before deciding how to respond
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:46 PM
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Going through the post history of everyone you reply to is really fucking weird. So that's standard practice here? According to your theory, at least
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:43 PM
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lol your inability to let go of this post history obsession is funny Do women really read through the post history of everyone they respond to? Because that's the only way this works
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:28 PM
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lol the post was about one thing, you made it about a totally different but closely related thing. That's twisting the argument Do the women here really go through the post history of every person who posts before responding to figure out how mean or nice to be? That's fucking weird
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:25 PM
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Right, which is why I had to explain that's not what the OP is about. At all. I'm glad you can at least understand how badly you purposely misunderstood the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:22 PM
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At least you can acknowledge you willingly twist and distort people's words to fit your narrative and make them look bad, proud of you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:20 PM
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"Picture this: You’re on PPD. Tom has a post history" Right, that's what I'm trying to explain to you. You made that part up to try and disprove the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:14 PM
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op: "people assume the worst for no reason" you: "picture this: someone does a lot of bad things so people think they're bad, what's the problem?" You can't even find the original goalposts 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:11 PM
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lol it's amazing how incapable you are of grasping even very basic points 😂😂😂😂😂 OP is saying this happens regardless of post history. Which is to say, people will automatically assume the worst for no reason and justify it with some "just world fallacy"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:08 PM
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lol you invented Tom are you really that lost? 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:04 PM
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what? the link won't open
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:02 PM
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lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:01 PM
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lol still sooooooooo close! We're talking about real life interactions! Where you don't know anything about a person's post history. And still judging them negatively for no reason whatsoever. Again, it's what you said, but minus the part about knowing anything about Tom's post history and assuming he must have a bad post history for no reason whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:00 PM
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You were so close! Leave out the part about the post history and you're understanding it right. You're including the post history to twist the argument by presenting someone who actually has a bad personality, but pretending you aren't, so you can discount the OP. Point of this post is people love to tell Tom he has a bad personality when there is 0 reason to think he has a bad personality apart from being lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:34 AM
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Seriously. Can you imagine a man telling a woman who complains about being lonely that "you aren't in a position to choose so stop crying and work on your personality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:18 AM
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"No one told him to do that. Women have never said to be nice/kind to get pussy. " your illness is acting up, Lilith. You forgot that you titled this post "It’s not that goodness/niceness isnt appreciated" Are you capable of understanding that "It’s not that goodness/niceness isnt appreciated" and "women have never said to be nice" are exact opposites? I know it'll be hard for you due to your condition, but I believe in you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:05 AM
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lol imagine being so stupid you have to say the quiet part out loud because you lack the intelligence to understand everyone already knows this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:55 AM
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:Men never bothered to unite against the draft, but they united to vote a warmonger into office" lol you're going to be fucking shocked when you find out women voted for Trump too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:54 AM
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Yeah I'm just letting you know doing nice things without expecting anything in return isn't a thing anymore. When men do that women mock them and take advantage and talk about how stupid they are for simping and doing nice things without checking to see if they'd get anything back first
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 02:21 PM
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"I’ve lived the real world and have seen what actually happens. 😆" Yet you somehow cannot fathom that this very common occurrence could possibly happen...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:18 PM
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"No it's the money and the escape from pedophilia and sex tourism. I don't blame them." lol no it's not. A lot of Asian women are wary of Asian men because of how they were raised and the expectations that come with it. One of my friends is an Asian woman and her mom explicitly told her not to date Asian men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:21 AM
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"And impoverished men in the Appalachians voted for Trump" lol the women voted for Trump too 😂😂😂. I really do see what you were trying to do there, but I guess you got so excited you forgot it's not just men who live in Appalachia
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:15 AM
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idk how old you are, but this doesn't work in 2025. You'll just get called a simp and taken advantage of by the woman then later told you deserved it because you were an idiot for doing nice things without making sure you'd get something in return first
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:12 AM
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"Men are the ones who reach out to women after high school and college in hopes she’ll finally give him that chance he thinks he deserves." lol you must still be waiting to graduate if this is how you think the world works. In ten years you'll look back and think you were totally fucking insane and the stupidest person on the planet to think it's impossible for women to reach out to men after high school
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:05 AM
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She has a mental illness. It's a shame nobody in her life will get her the help she needs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:57 AM
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"the pendulum is swinging" lol no it's not, it's always been exactly where it is, the fuck are you talking about? Oh women, so fucking stupid they have no idea what they're saying and make up an entire fake history of the world just so they can keep being mad about.....something
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:45 AM
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lol your inability to grasp the point is honestly impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:34 PM
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right? So funny women are so self-centered they sincerely believe they're the first ones in history doing the incredibly important work of telling men they're expendable. Like, lady, men have been getting sent to die in wars for thousands of years, we've known for a long time nobody gives a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:58 PM
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I know, I was just letting you know how funny it is that you're so self-centered and self-important and lacking in self-awareness that you think you're saying something new when men have been getting sent to die in wars for thousands of years 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:47 PM
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"we also have zero OBLIGATION" Women thinking men need to have it explained to them that nobody gives a shit and that's the way it should be is hilarious. You coming out here and puffing your chest out and acting all tough as if nobody giving a fuck about men is some new thing you're preparing them for is so fucking funny 😂😂😂 Imagine your life being so easy that you think it's going to shock men to tell them nobody cares 😂😂😂. Lady, I got news for you: men have known nobody cares their entire liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:24 PM
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It's a mental disorder she has. Shame nobody in her life cares enough to get her the help she needs. So sad, the countless hours she's wasted writing these rants towards people that only exist in her head
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:11 PM
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" So one man might comment about how women nag, another man comments about how women are delicate flowers who need to be patronized to, and you take these two different statements and combine them into a thesis men are making." Yeah I'm pretty sure 85% + of the posts here come from people tying together statements from totally separate people to create a new, imaginary person who is just close enough to being real to be mad at and make posts about For Lilith I think it's a legit medical disorder…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:26 PM
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lol it’s so fucking funny that you spend the majority of your life coming up with these unhinged rants about how men don’t care about love, when the only thing you care about in a relationship is sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:33 PM
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“Is your disorder so bad that even after being told what you said you still can't remember?” lol guess so. I already told you twice and you still can’t remember 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:23 PM
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lol you called wanting a deeper relationship simping, the fuck are you talking about? Is your disorder so bad that even after being told what you said you still can't remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:02 PM
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"What the fuck is he suffering from at that point? Why is it painful?" You keep forgetting you have some emotional disorder that means your definition of a crush is different from normal people. Remember, to you it's someone you sometimes kind of think is hot, not someone you have genuine feelings for. That's why you keep talking past people in your comments, you aren't able to comprehend the depth of emotion normal people feel
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:01 PM
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"Be an adult and stop constantly fantasizing and simping." lol your ability to say crazy fucking shit and totally forget you said it is honestly impressive. Do you have some multi-personality thing going on? Or amnesia or something? Trying to figure out how you can possibly be so bad at remembering the insane fucking stuff you say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:47 PM
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hahahahaha, good one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:51 PM
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*man only wants sex on a first date and doesn't care about the woman* "men are so awful, they just see women as cock sleeves!" *man gets to know a woman over a long period of time and deeply appreciates her and wants a deeper relationship* "Simp! How dare you get to know me instead of fucking me immediately!" Confusing out here for men these days
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:44 AM
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"I can see a woman taking my view and wondering why a guy “pretended” to be her friend when he always wanted to sleep with her, even if that wasn’t really the fact pattern. " That's a pretty fucking shitty thing to assume of someone who is supposedly a friend
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:37 AM
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mods please remove this comment for "contentless rhetoric"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:22 AM
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I think you’re confused about what a crush is. What you’re describing is a friend you think is kind of hot sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 11:29 PM
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You, re: romance being a need: "Because theyre not needs."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:15 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:08 PM
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You forgot a word or something because this isn't a comprehensible sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:04 PM
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*sigh* You said people not staying friends with someone they have feelings for is "breakup behavior," remember? My point is it isn't. Different people exhibit different behaviors in different situations
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:01 PM
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"I know people who have gone through breakups and stayed friends with their ex, so I'm not sure how deciding to distance yourself from someone you have feelings for is the same as that?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:49 PM
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Okay? That has nothing to do with my comment, but...okay
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:45 PM
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Right, and I'm disagreeing. I know people who have gone through breakups and stayed friends with their ex, so I'm not sure how deciding to distance yourself from someone you have feelings for is the same as that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:41 PM
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What? No I'm disputing they're reacting the same as a breakup. How did you not get that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:38 PM
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They aren't, you're making that up too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:33 PM
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No, they aren't saying it hurts the same as a breakup, which you pretended they are, and which seemed to be your primary issue w/r/t it being "insane"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:30 PM
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No I'm trying to explain to you that you invented your argument and are fighting ghosts pretending actual people think this when it's just the ghosts in your head
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:24 PM
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But you made it up? Nobody said that, you invented it in your head and are pretending people are saying it even though nobody is saying it for some reason. Like I said, weird to invent an opinion then tell a bunch of people that's what they think when nobody said that's what they think
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:20 PM
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Also, you made up the "hurts like a breakup" part, the person you replied never said that. All they said was it's okay to distance from relationships that hurt you. Weird move to invent an opinion to take a position against
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:15 PM
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"That's insane to me" Okay. What you're saying is unhealthy and insane to me. Does that mean you are now unhealthy and insane because I said so?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:07 PM
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How are you able to accurately asses that people in here are romanticizing things beyond what is healthy? Did you do an in-depth analysis of each person saying this and the relationship they have with the person they're thinking of when they say it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:03 PM
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You can't have romance without companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:00 PM
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So romance isn't a need because humans don't need companionship to live, but friendship is a need "because having people help you through makes survival easier" and "isolation has proven to be damaging" Make it make sense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:52 AM
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Or maybe every person and situation is different and not everyone is obligated to think and feel exactly as you do at all times since you're just a person and not a divine, all-powerful being mere mortals are meant to worship and obey?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:44 AM
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"I'm honestly surprised so many women don't relate to the frustration with the friend zone and think it's fake or whatever." Really? I'm not at all. Women these days are taught they should value themselves first, second, third, fourth, and fifth, then maybe think about other people. This is especially true when it comes to potential romantic partners. Makes perfect sense they have no conception of "friendship" or genuinely caring about another person instead of caring about what they do for you,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:41 AM
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Doesn't really change the point that this statistically is massively misleading because the 77% saying yes are obviously assuming the approacher is hot
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:28 AM
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mod please remove this comment for "contentless rhetoric"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:24 AM
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“..do you not realize that people can express, on their own accord, that they they are uninterested in someone in that way.. without such info ever being solicited?? or because someone, other than the person of topic, asked??” I also knows it’s possible to be wrong about reading these signs? I don’t know, I don’t walk around evaluating whether people I don’t care about having sex with want to fuck me, but apparently some people do, I honestly had no idea that was a thing “my experience means tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:58 PM
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But if you make no effort to sleep with a man, how can you be rejected by him not sleeping with you? What if he would say yes if you asked but…you don’t know that because you never asked? “logical fallacy argument. just because you haven't heard of it before doesnt mean it doesn't happen, especially when people dont tend to openly express these feelings” lol but your experience is undeniable fact and a universal human experience everyone takes part in because you say so. Go it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:43 PM
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“it is, by definition, rejection. that's simply a fact.” How can you be rejected for something you aren’t asking for? “it has zero to do with being a woman. men do the same thing. it's a human thing” I’ve never heard a man say he considers himself rejected by every woman he doesn’t sleep with
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:23 PM
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what a wild experience that must be. Imagine getting your feelings hurt every time someone doesn’t want to fuck you and considering it a rejection. Oh, to be a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:13 PM
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But they're not rejecting you. They're friends with you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:02 AM
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"im very put off by guys (and girls) who try to be my friend when they obviously want me" "if my guy friends told me they werent interested in me in that way, i would (of course) be slightly insulted lmao. like whats wrong with me??" So you're put off by your guy "friends" who not so secretly want you, but also are insulted if your guy "friends" DON'T want you? That must be very confusing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:52 PM
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lol what are you talking about, if he were a woman you'd be telling him how proud you are of him for living his best life and not letting anything hold him back, even a husband and 4 kids. But since he's a man you're berating him for not being a woman and falsely claiming what would happen if he were Insane, you people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 11:07 AM
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Okay? I'm glad you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:29 PM
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Right, which is why it's confusing why women think this is some huge revelation that will shock men. It's just two really hot dudes. Of course some women will prefer one, and some will prefer the other
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:54 PM
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Exactly. Using this as the comparison to show men not understanding women's gaze is so weird to me. Like, it's two guys who are clearly very attractive. "actually I like the OTHER really hot guy" is not the gotcha women seem to think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:28 PM
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lol where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:17 PM
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Might be the most reasonable comment I've ever seen from a woman here. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:38 PM
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"I think one of the biggest issues with men here is that you all severely overestimate the quantity of DECENT men that women are actually interacting with." I hope you realize you are literally doing the thing where you say average women deserve above average men just....because
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:58 AM
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I too remember the days where "loneliness" was just a thing people felt/experienced, and not the worst mental illness known to mankind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:47 AM
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"The loneliness is a state of mind" lol wut? how do you people get to the point in your life where you actually believe this nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:42 AM
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lol fair enough. Good luck on the withdrawals, not fun
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:57 PM
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looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed, mr grumpy pants
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:50 PM
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lol I don't go to bars, this isn't stuff that's happened to me. Just stuff I've heard other women talk about. You know, being mad a guy dared talk to them and punishing him by getting him to buy drinks for her and all her friends before leaving without saying goodbye Why are you so determined to defend terrible people? It is possible for women to be terrible, you know. Hard as that may be for you to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:38 AM
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But that's not what's happening. It's buying a drink. I assume most women are intelligent enough to understand that, if a man offers to buy you a drink, it's because he wants to talk to you. If you do not want to talk to him, say no. You act like women literally cannot resist shiny things. You make is sound like women are so stupid that, if I jangle some shiny keys in front of them, they will do whatever I want. Are you a child, or an adult? If you're an adult, find the courage to say "no"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:30 AM
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"There are litearlly not enough kids actually. Many western countries are below replacement rates, you are literally dying out." Then adopt from a non-western country? "You can do both??" Of course. But these days surviving is so expensive that could be hard. Also the adopted and biological siblings dynamic can be complicated What's with you weird fixation on getting strangers to have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:28 AM
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"I worked at a crisis center and the young women would laugh at the older white men that they saw after their meetings with them, dismissing their pain as "'I have no sympathy... they'll be fine.'" This is terrifying to the point of being unbelievable. But I do believe it because I suspect I had a woman psychologist who did the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:20 AM
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Yeah, in my experience psychologists who do basic talk therapy are the biggest hacks on the planet. They literally don't know anything. Worked with four psychologists and can't remember a single helpful, insightful, or even intelligent thing they told me. I don't know, maybe I was somehow just born with a PhD level understanding of psychology, but everything I've ever heard actual psychologists say is like....uhhh yeah, no shit, dickwad
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:18 AM
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It says so much that you genuinely believed men would come in here saying "no," so you could pull a gotcha on them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:42 PM
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Well now you have! Learn something new every day and what not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:07 PM
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lol trophy husbands are 100% a thing, what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:04 PM
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She literally said she considers rappers low status who just for ig girls, what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:01 PM
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It's ridiculous that you think that's a ridiculous expectation. Like, truly. Jesus christ I don't even know how to respond that's so insane
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:59 PM
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Yeah, it's really pathetic behavior. Women are way, way worse about it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:45 PM
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Yeah, I think women care way more about other people thinking their partner is attractive than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:43 PM
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What do you get out of gaslighting this guy? Like, what are you trying to achieve by trying to tell him his life didn't happen? He says a relationship made him happier. What do you get out of telling him this isn't true? I don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:52 PM
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How can it not be true that a relationship made this guy happier when he said a relationship made him happier? (didn't read past that sentence, fyi)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:33 PM
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Saying all rappers like IG girls, and therefore all rappers are low status, is an extremely weird take. I mean, there are women who are rappers. I find it very hard to believe Lauryn Hill is thirsting after IG models
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:24 PM
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Yeah, I really don't understand why this comment is directed at men. PEOPLE do this. Men and women both, and I'd imagine about equally, I doubt it's significantly more one way or the other. So hard having any kind of productive conversation when the initial statement is pretending half the population doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:19 PM
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" feel like a significant number of men " *people,* you mean, since women do this just as much. I know way more women who are willing to stay in bad relationships with people they don't like because it's better than being single, than I do men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:17 PM
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What do you get out of trying to tell this guy his life didn't happen? Always so curious what motivates people to deny the reality of others like this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:15 PM
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"i'm kinda curious why guys don't offer emotional closeness to their male friends?" "personally i think there are things i refuse to discuss even with my friends, which is why i have a therapist" Sounds like you already know the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:05 PM
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"girlie, this is concerning 😅 i honestly don't know what to say besides a barrage of questions." This is where you say, "oh, I guess my premise might be a little flawed, thank you for offering a perspective I didn't know existed"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:02 PM
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As a Celtics fan, I take offense to this. How you going to say fans of a franchise that has been winning championships since the 60's are bandwagoners? If anything, Celtics fans are the LEAST likely to run off to whatever team suddenly starts winning
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:59 AM
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Humans have existed for 300,000 years. You're talking about a ~roughly 2000 year period. That's not very much, as far as evolution goes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:30 AM
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That they actually want to talk to the guy instead of getting him to spend hundreds of dollars on drinks and laughing about it after
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:40 AM
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Okay? Not sure how that's relevant...but okay I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:50 AM
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What an incredibly random, incredibly aggressive comment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:45 AM
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Free drinks at a bar
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:34 AM
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You're strange
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:32 AM
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Typically it's take advantage of them, from what I've seen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:29 AM
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No, it's weird to take a huge group of people and say they're all the exact same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:28 AM
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Really weird take, but good on you for standing on it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:23 AM
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Okay. Doesn't change that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:19 AM
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The amount of racism and classism implied in that comment is...yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:18 AM
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"A rapper is not high status to me, though he may be to a different type of woman" Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:08 AM
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Literally every single time a woman has taken advantage of a man, and every single time a man has taken advantage of a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 11:40 PM
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"Nothing makes you get your shit togheter like a baby does." Yeah, in reality there's actually almost no correlation here. If a person doesn't want their shit to be together, a baby isn't going to change that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:50 PM
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Enough kids out there already not being taken care of, if you want a kid, adopt one who isn't wanted by their bio parents
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:48 PM
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It's really hard to understand how they don't see the cognitive dissonance "I know exactly how it feels to go your whole life never having someone be interested, I promise (but also I've had two people interested enough to marry me)" Like...wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:22 PM
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Exactly. Everything I have ever seen in my life tells me that "trying harder" will only result in spending massive amounts of resources (time, money, etc) and getting absolutely nothing in return
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 11:35 AM
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"If Biggie had never been a rapper, you really think he would still be famous?" Of course not. But that doesn't mean he somehow didn't have a legitimate, incredible talent to be admired for. Just weird to dismiss his talents as meaningless, and just equate his fame to being a rapper
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:27 AM
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Yeah, that's always been my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:40 AM
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We're not talking about dating, we're talking about trying to get to dating. An ugly dude "trying hard" with a hot girl isn't going to make her attracted to him. Acting like it might is just insane
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:21 AM
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I strongly disagree. Nothing in my life has suggested that the amount of effort you put in correlates with the response you get. If a woman doesn't think you're attractive, "putting in effort" will never, ever change that. More likely it'll just lead to being mocked and ridiculed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:17 AM
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lol OP said being chronically alone sucks. You said it does too. That's all I was saying. Not sure where you got the rest from
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:12 AM
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I agree! Still totally irrelevant, but I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:05 AM
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" Investment increases your odds of success," Wrong. There is literally no correlation. Your entire post is irrelevant because you don't understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:59 AM
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Okay? Not sure what that has to do with you agreeing with everything OP said by disagreeing, but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 01:37 AM
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I know. You keep saying that. Unfortunately, no matter how many times you say it, it doesn't change objective reality. People are allowed to have different opinions on the matter. Gaslighting people for not agreeing is pretty shitty of Lilith
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:42 AM
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I agree. Doesn't change reality and how time works and that the 89 days between day 1 and day 90 don't exist, as Lilith is trying to gaslight people into thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:38 AM
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knowing someone for 1 day is not equivalent to knowing them for 90 days. That's just objectively true. You may personally feel that's too soon and you want to know someone longer than that, but it doesn't mean you don't know them any better after 90 days than you do the first day and that having sex with them on day 1 would be equivalent to day 90. I know you FEEL like it is, but that doesn't change how time works (though I'm glad you are finally at least willing to concede that I never mentione…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:34 AM
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No, it means I was responding to Lilith and using her definition of immediately to point out that fucking on day one is not the same as fucking on day 90, as she was trying to say. Nowhere in there do I say anything about my own personal opinion on the matter
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:24 AM
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lol still making shit up and trying to gaslight me, huh? Show me the quote
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:07 AM
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I never said if 90 days was acceptable or not, that’s the part you aren’t able to get for some reason I can’t understand. YOU said that I think 90 days is acceptable, not me. You can keep trying to gaslight me and tell me that’s not the case, but that doesn’t make it true, even if you have successfully gaslit yourself into thinking it does
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:05 AM
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Yes, it’s a plural which includes me. I think you think “you guys” means those guys,” but it doesn’t. You also said I want to have sex with women immediately and that I don’t think 90 days is too soon, neither of which I actually said and you just invented in your head and tried to tell me that’s what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:57 PM
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lol wut? You did make stuff up about me. Everything you said. Making stuff up about me then telling me you didn’t make stuff up about me doesn’t mean you didn’t make stuff up about me. That’s just gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:47 PM
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Says the person who keeps making stuff up about me and telling me that’s what I have to think. Just insane, truly, that you aren’t able to see how nuts it is to accuse me of being bad faith when you can’t stop making stuff up and stating it as fact
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:39 PM
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Yeah, saying 90 days is too short in order to accuse me of hating single moms isn’t equivalent to saying “in my opinion 90 days is immediately” I know, in the made up fantasy world you inhabit, you think it does. But, unfortunately, in reality this is not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:31 PM
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No, you did not. Show me the quote where you explained that, in your opinion, 90 days = immediately, and that's all you want to say. Every comment you made up a new thing about me and told me that's what I think. All I tried to do was tell you not to do that. For some reason you are totally incapable of stopping
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:25 PM
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"You repeatedly continued to deny and deflect and move the goal posts and shift the focus on a different topic." lol wut? The only thing I denied was all the stuff you invented and told me I thought. Which is all you did. You never once said, in your opinion, 90 = immediately. If you had, this would have been over a lot sooner. I would have said "okay," and that would have been it. Instead, over and over again, you attempted to gaslight and tell me what I was thinking when it was nowhere close t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:20 PM
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Okay. Why didn’t you just say that at first instead of going through all this bullshit and making stuff up about me and telling me that’s what I think? Like, if you just took my advice this could have been so much easier. Just don’t understand your absolute determination to invent things about me instead of actually addressing what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:13 PM
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Where? Show me the quote where I said that. All I said was there are 89 numbers between 1 and 90. The rest is your imagination. I don't know how much more clear I can make it. Can you please, please tell me which part of actually reading and responding to what I write instead of making things up about me and telling me that's what I think is so hard for you to understand? Like I really don't get how you're struggling this hard to grasp such a basic concept
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:58 PM
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I said there are 89 numbers between 1 and 90. That's it. I did not say a single thing about when I want to have sex. See how you made it up in your head that that must mean I want to fuck immediately when all I actually did was make a basic mathematical observation? I don't know how many different ways I can tell you to please comment on stuff I actually say instead of making things up and telling me what I think. Seriously, which part is confusing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:50 PM
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What are you talking about? I didn't say a single thing about having sex. Please, please, PLEASE try to actually address things I say instead of making stuff up and telling me that's what I think. How many more times do I have to say it? Which part is confusing you so badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:44 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:41 PM
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Okay? Good observation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:33 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:26 PM
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"You don’t want to be commented on in this context? " You keep getting confused. I'm saying you SHOULD comment on me. Instead you're making comments about other men instead of addressing anything I actually said. If you want to comment, comment on me and what I'm saying, not what you think other men think
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:19 PM
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Comment on stuff I actually say instead of making stuff up and telling me that's what I think
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:15 PM
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I'm not "you guys", that's not my name, I don't know who that is. If you want to make a comment, comment on something I actually said instead of making something up and telling me that's what I think
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:11 PM
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People choose to have inferior bloodlines?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:10 PM
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After I posted my comment, yes, he did. Sorry for not seeing into the future
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:09 PM
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I don't hate single moms, please stop making stuff up about me and declaring it as fact
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 10:07 PM
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"Yes you are. If youre that obsessed with fucking immediately, why arent you looking for a hookup?" There's 89 days between fucking immediately and waiting 90 days to fuck someone. It's not one or the other, as you're trying to claim
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:40 PM
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weird to use one of the hardest working athletes as an example here, but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 09:37 PM
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"It's always ugly and/or old and/or bald and/or short guys. Guys I wouldn't spit on if they caught fire." Yup. Can smell the lack of virtue these guys have from here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:51 PM
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If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:16 PM
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Yeah I guess by random I was thinking bottom of the barrel guy approaching bottom of the barrel girl, which to me doesn't sound so bad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:59 PM
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Just more proof that short men are the one group of people on the planet who can be hated with no consequences whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:13 PM
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"there are some men with inferior bloodlines who are supposed to die without having reproduced. It’s kind of your choice if you’re among them." Both of these things cannot be true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:47 AM
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"He's calculated and predatory" But also men are supposed to only date within their league and are shamed and scorned for attempting to do otherwise. Really hard to have it both ways. Either bottom of the barrel men go for bottom of the barrel women and get told they are predators, or they go for not bottom of the barrel women and get told they are stupid for thinking someone of average attractiveness would want their ugly, good for nothing ass
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:45 AM
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"They never felt romantic love or sexual fulfillment. And society pressed on anyways." And that really fucking sucks. That's what OP is saying. Weird to disagree then provide an example that agrees with everything he said
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:39 AM
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"Virtually everyone" This post is directed at those who fall outside of "virtually everyone." Not sure how you missed that, but hope this helps clear things up for you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:38 AM
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"Take your autistic ugly nobody lookin' dork, give him a few million dollars" As a hip hop fan...equating Biggie to an "autistic ugly nobody with a few million dollars" is.....wildly disrespectful of his talents. Having a legit talent and craft that you work on and gain admiration for is way different than getting girls just because you have money
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:21 AM
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"I get it - I do...and I’ve gotten married twice" So, you don't get it. At all. You can't possibly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:16 AM
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"And volunteer - a lot." I volunteer for a living (which is to say my job is direct service at a non-profit). If only that was the cure all you think it is "She’s on the spectrum. She has plenty of people who will mourn her when she goes. Like me" Does this mean she has no problem with, ,and is totally indifferent towards, being romantically unsuccessful?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:08 AM
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lol once again saying stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with anything I’ve said.I don’t think you’ve said a single thing that has any connection to anything I’ve said. Your ability to deflect endlessly is impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:50 AM
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Once again has absolutely nothing with what I’m saying…but okay Are the people you typically talk to really so stupid they fall for your blatant gaslighting?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:35 AM
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So funny how your anecdotes are fact because you say so, but my anecdotes are irrelevant because I’m a man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 02:31 AM
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Evidence? For what? What are you talking about? All I said was some women do take it personally when unattractive men approach them. Some men do the same thing. It's pathetic all around. I don't really understand why you're so determined to pretend this is a thing that has never happened....but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:46 AM
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lol I knew that was going to be your response. Since you're now resorting to gaslighting and denying my reality, I suppose we're done here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:03 AM
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"Rejection has nothing to do with the rejector’s self worth." I'm glad you think so. Many, many, many women disagree. I've heard women say an unattractive man approaching them "ruined their week," or "sent them spiraling" because they felt it must mean something bad about them. To them, it clearly does have to do with self worth I'm glad you don't think that way, because it's pretty pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:55 AM
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I'm a youth worker, I'm used to practicing patience
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:33 AM
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Okay. I never once talked about a reason women reject men, but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:10 AM
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"Men as a whole want to know why they are rejected." Okay. Once again: not what I'm talking about, but okay. Didn't bother reading the rest since you're either pretending not to grasp what I'm saying, or actually just not capable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:05 AM
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"Because you made up a reason why women reject men they aren’t interested in." I'm talking about the REACTION to rejecting someone they aren't interested in, not WHY they reject someone they aren't interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:59 PM
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"Obviously everyone prefers attention from people they find attractive and the other kind is a bit of a nuisance..." This has absolutely nothing to do with how women respond to these approaches based on their own attractiveness, which is what I was talking about, but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:52 PM
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Okay. That doesn't address anything I said, but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:29 PM
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"Reactions aren’t based on how attraction she thinks she is" I think unattractive women are more likely to react negatively to someone they deem unattractive approaching them because they think it reflects their level of self-worth, in terms of "wow THAT guy thought he had a chance? Am I really that ugly?" Attractive women, who know they are attractive, are much less likely to react this way because they're more secure in their "value"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:22 PM
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"All you have to do is be yourself" Just don't say this when you clearly don't mean it. Look how quickly you abandoned that philosophy when someone brought up a counterpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:07 PM
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"not appropriate for you to call me stupid" I didn't call you stupid, relax
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:02 PM
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On an individual level, it's extremely easy to be kind to people. During your normal, daily routine, showing kindness to the people you come across is not hard
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:30 AM
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No I definitely didn't read it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:28 AM
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Because he literally copy and pasted the OP and flipped the genders. It couldn't be more obvious. You don't have to pretend it's not to try and attack him for no reason instead of just admitting you didn't understand what he was doing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:28 AM
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I agree! And appreciate your understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 01:24 AM
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You're welcome. I'm the exact same. And am also leaning more and more towards the, "what's the point of continuing to try to do the right thing if all it ever does is hurt?" I feel like people don't even try to do the right thing anymore before being shitty, and it makes me so mad, which is why I reacted strongly initially. I'm sorry for being harsh, I wish I'd done a better job actually understanding where you're coming from before responding
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 01:06 AM
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Are you sure? Because you accused him of being one of those men, which, if you understood he was parodying the OP, you would know he is not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:48 AM
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Why? I'd say it's about equal. Saying "he has to love me no matter what, so who gives a shit what I look like?" seems pretty disrespectful to me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:51 PM
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I get where you're coming from, for the record. My guess is you've had a bunch of experiences where trying to do the right thing has ended up hurting you. Unfortunately we live in a world where only caring about yourself and behaving accordingly is rewarded, and trying to do the right thing is taken advantage of. It's easy to give in and say "fuck it, if everyone else is terrible why shouldn't I be?" It's a lot harder to try to keep doing the right thing when it feels like all you've ever been i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:39 PM
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He was just flipping the genders in OP's post to show what a crazy take it is. Glad you agree, even if you totally missed what was happening
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:18 PM
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Jesus christ what is this world coming to? Trying to be healthy is now a phobia, just truly insane
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:07 PM
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I don't understand, if a man already works out regularly and takes care of himself and the woman doesn't, are you saying he should stop working out so she doesn't feel bad about not taking care of herself? If you're healthy, and your partner is unhealthy, why does it make you a POS to want your partner to take better care of themselves and be healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:03 PM
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You are dehumanizing women though. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 03:23 PM
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In this case the argument is just so fucking bizarre if you think about it. Like, this lady is saying women should be indifferent to their children and husbands and abandon them the second things aren't super-duper fun. Terrifying OP genuinely seems to believe this would be a preferable existence to, you know, loving the people around you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:25 PM
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"They meant lost about what RP is" You don't know that, you're just guessing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:09 PM
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Saying the earth is round is a far less bizarre take than saying women don't actually love or care about their children and are just heartless, emotionless creatures who have been manipulated by men into thinking they care about their children
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:33 PM
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lol what? The only thing men have been taught for the last 30 years is they aren't owed love or are entitled to anything. Where have you been?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:31 PM
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Haven't you made this same exact thread like a dozen times now?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:27 PM
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I'm sorry you're feeling lost on whether or not to be a good person
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:47 AM
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"most men can't see damaged/toxic women, which sadly are quite common." This, but also for a lot of men, having a damaged/toxic woman be into you is still better than being lonely, so even if they do recognize it they're more likely to put up with it if the alternative is nobody
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 11:39 AM
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"Women can spot them easily and men fall easily" Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:39 AM
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" Is there a point in trying to be good when, according to Redpill, I am inherently evil?" This is not the brilliant, air-tight gotcha you clearly think it is. You just sound like a fucking moron. Looking for a bullshit excuse to act like a terrible person is a strong sign of extremely low intelligence, in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:31 AM
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Umm, yes, considering people you don't find attractive non-human and treating them accordingly is a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 11:44 PM
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"Best advice a man can give is just stop fucking caring what mentally ill women think." This. I used to care, but just don't anymore. Because what are we really talking about here? If someone approaching you ruins your day, that's a you problem and you need to get the fuck over yourself, you're not that special
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 11:41 PM
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Yet another thread where a woman sees one man say "I need sex!" a totally different man say "I want a partner who hasn't been with too many people" and decided these are actually the same person who said both these things and this is how all men are. Insane. Different people can think different things
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:30 AM
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Not in my experience. By far the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:27 AM
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Apparently OP doesn't understand that men, in their traditional roles as providers, base their entire existence around...providing for others
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:59 PM
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Really weird post considering how much more men are expected to put the needs of others before their own than women are
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:57 PM
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lol wut? This is a truly terrible, totally made up take
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:52 PM
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lol what the fuck? So nothing like this has ever actually happened in real life, to the point where your only source of evidence for this is REDDIT DM'S...and you think your opinion should somehow be taken seriously? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:50 PM
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I didn't say they were, OP did. While also saying there's nothing that makes dating harder for anyone. Wild people have no problem holding such obviously incompatible views
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:41 PM
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Right, I just put in the words you left out
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:28 PM
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"I am married now and my husband is 6ft (though he insists he’s 5’11” lol)" That's exactly what you said though?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:19 PM
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No, that was you "I don't care about height but I swear to god my husband is 6', not 5'11. He says he's 5'11 but I promise he's 6" Some serious projection edit: "Accept that while MANY women feel strongly about uncontrollable factors such as height and appearance, there actually are some of us who frankly couldn’t give a damn and fault no one when they fall under these categories." duh, everyone knows this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:12 PM
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"Projection is an ugly habit." I know, that's why I was trying to tell you not to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:05 PM
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"I mentioned it simply to state that he himself is secure enough in himself to not feel the need to be 6ft+." Nobody believes this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:01 PM
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You married a guy who's 5'11 but insist he's 6', even though he's not. Him being 6' is clearly extremely important to you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:46 PM
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So you DO want to have it both ways. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:45 PM
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" that dating apps are "stacked against them" (they are, but tough shit)" Dawg how you gonna title your post "dating problems are your fault" then straight up admit dating apps are broken. You can't have both. Pick one. Either there are things that make dating hard, and not totally someone's fault if they fail (dating apps suck), or there aren't. You: "everything is your fault, but also the deck is stacked against you, which isn't your fault, but it's still your fault because I feel like it, so …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:08 AM
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" All I have to do is being kind, being brave, clean myself and smells good." Where do you live that this is the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:52 AM
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"I don't care about height!" *marries a guy who's 5'11* "My husband is 6 feet, but tries to say he's 5'11 lol, but he's definitely actually 6'"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:23 AM
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Even here there's a woman whose husband is (according to him) 5'11. She insists he's 6', even though he says he's not. And she's talking about how she doesn't care about height. The lack of awareness is truly stunning
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:20 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:07 AM
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Still no examples? I just want an example to understand what you even mean
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:43 PM
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Then why can’t you tell me what kinds of shoes show someone has a bad personality and what shoes show someone has a good personality? Like I’m honestly just curious to hear an example of how this happens
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:22 PM
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Yeah sounds a lot like you’re just imagining things if shoes can show you someone has a bad personality but you can’t tell me what how a shoe proves that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:10 PM
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Okay. Then how do someone's shoes tell you they have a bad personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:08 PM
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"Shoes tell me a lot about a dude." I think you're just imagining this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:10 AM
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" It is not earned or negotiated or a "challenge" to be "overcome" through effort." This is the part OP doesn't know yet, that sweet, summer child
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:27 PM
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" Yall are trying so hard to say in every way possible that men just have it soo much harder than women, yet the topic of discussion is dating" That's because "life on easy mode" specifically refers to dating. You asked what is meant by the phrase "life on easy mode." It refers to the difference between men and women in dating, which is why people are talking about dating, because that's what "life on easy mode" refers to, and that's what was asked about
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:02 PM
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I really hope these people are intentionally missing your point, this is tough to read
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:53 AM
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Being a victim of grief is still being a victim. You said it was a victimless crime. So you were wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:08 AM
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" it's a victimless crime" I mean, if you're a parent or otherwise have people who depend on you, it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:26 AM
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“ but at least we are honest and don't try and sugar coat by lying that we actually care about obesity rates” Yeah, instead you say all short men should be sent to war so their genes are killed off
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:15 PM
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Huh? Why would anyone be enraged when this is the most basic, expected advice men get on this topic? You made up the “you’d be so mad” part in your head. Nobody would be enraged by hearing that, it’s what they expect
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:52 PM
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The point is you’re pretending only men do it when women do it just as much, which is incredibly disingenuous. You say it’s not fair for men to say women should lose weight when women tell men to lose weight, dress better, have better hygiene, become funnier, and have more hobbies. Why is it one unfair but not the other? Idk what the rest has to do with anything, just pointing out your insane double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:43 PM
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The point is there is no lifestyle equivalent with height, so calling them equally shallow is wrong since weight says something about a person and the way they live, while height does not. Caring about height is way, way more shallow than caring about weight
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:31 PM
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“Yall can change your income. If you want us to date you, and fuck you starting working harder and longer because finding a good man who makes good money is hard.” This literally is the default dating advice women give men, what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:18 PM
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“Men have no right to tell women what they can change because in a way he's saying she has to change major parts of her life, just to be accepted by a man” Again, why is this a problem? When men say they can’t find dates they are told to go to the gym, groom better, dress better, get a better job, get hobbies, become funnier, become more charismatic if they want success, or stop complaining. Why can’t we tell women that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 10:14 PM
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“ Doesnt matter what is controllable, women can still have their preferences” I’m just saying the two aren’t equivalent in terms of shallowness, as you are so desperately trying to claim. I stated the lifestyle part as one example as to how height and weight differ in shallowness. Weight indicates something about a person. Height does not. You keep trying to say there’s no reason to care about weight when there clearly are reasons, unlike height, where there actually is no concern apart from per…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:28 PM
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Yes, I was referring to compatibility, I’m glad you were able to grasp that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:15 PM
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Trying to equate chest size and height. Come on now. I’ve never heard someone say “I’d date you if only your boobs were a little bigger.” I hear “I’d date you if only you were a little taller” all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:14 PM
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“ but a man saying a woman can change her weight is basically saying she has to change major parts of her life just for a man to accept her.” And this is an issue why, exactly? Men who struggle are told to go to the gym and learn to dress better, and if they don’t want to then it’s their own fault women don’t like them and to stop whining because they aren’t entitled to be loved just the way they are. How is this different? Edit: equating leg lengthening surgery to losing weight might be the cra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:07 PM
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I wish I knew what kind of life you've lived where, as a man, you can seriously make this argument. I have never, ever heard a man say "you would be perfect for me, if only your boobs were a little bigger," whereas I hear "you would be perfect for me, if only you were a little taller" all the time. Like how can you possible think the two are even close?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:12 PM
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"If you think women valuing a man for his height is shallow, a man valuing a woman for a woman's weight is equally shallow." No, because weight is controllable and says something about someone's personality. Height does not. I live an active life. Being overweight indicates a less active lifestyle, so dating someone like that would be a bad match. There are no such considerations with height
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:05 PM
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Why start a thread if you're going to make nothing but bad faith arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:58 PM
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(within reason) is doing an insane amount of lifting here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:56 PM
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lol wut? It's 100% the opposite. Hence why men aren't allowed to say "no fat chicks" but women are celebrated for saying "no short guys"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:53 PM
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Okay but the question of the thread was if dating is harder for men or women. Not is approaching easier for MrTTripz than other people. If OP had asked if MrTTripz enjoys approaching, your responses would make a lot of sense. But that wasn't the question
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 03:02 PM
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Subjectively, yes. But we're talking objectively. Objectively, doing 50 pushups requires more effort than doing 1 push up. I mean, by this logic a guy who doesn't enjoy approaching can approach 1 girl, and say because it was really hard, he did a lot more work and put in a lot more effort than the guy who approached 50 girls because it's easy, and legitimately complain that it's not fair that he has to approach two girls because approaching is harder for him than others
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:57 PM
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No, it's a perfect example. We're talking about the amount of work necessary to approach vs not approach and you're confusing that with how much FUN it is to approach, when the discussion is about EFFORT. Doing 50 push ups takes more effort than doing 1 push up. How much you enjoy that process is irrelevant. Doing 50 push ups still requires more work than doing 1 push up. Just like how men having to approach is effort they put in that women don't, regardless of how much each individual man may e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:47 PM
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That's not how that word works. Harder and enjoy don't correlate, as you seem to believe. For example, I like working out. If someone asks me to do 50 pushups, I can do it and enjoy doing it. If someone asks someone else to do 1 push up, they might not enjoy it. Does this mean the person who did 1 push up did more than my 50 pushups because I don't mind doing push ups?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:36 PM
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But that doesn't reflect that, relative to women, men have to do more work. Which is the whole point behind the "heavy lifting" comment. That it's work men have to do that women don't. And makes dating harder for men. Which is the question of this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:28 PM
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So what term would you use instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:13 PM
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How is describing having to approach as heavy lifting compared to women not having to approach mischaracterizing anything? What term would you use instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:06 PM
1

Makes sense, that you knew him for a period of time also changes things imo
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:58 PM
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Okay. I'm just saying the reason people say that isn't because approaching itself is so difficult, but because it's harder compared to women who don't have to approach at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:57 PM
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"I don't really understand how initiating is 'heavy lifting'" Because it requires a lot more effort than just waiting around to be approached?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:41 PM
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"You should love someone because you genuinely love them." Not a good idea in 2024, unfortunately. The vast majority of the time this will only lead to the man being called a simp and being mocked behind his back for being kind before making sure he gets something in return for it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:35 PM
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I don't blame you at all. It's how the world has made us. As a very physically unattractive man who doesn't even have unattractive women show interest, it's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea of being insulted someone bothered to take the time out of their day to say something to you. Like...it's obviously a compliment. Just take the compliment instead of somehow making it a bad thing? That's the part I don't get. You're so focused on physical characteristics defining everything about a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:46 AM
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Dude all I’m saying is that if someone ugly talking to you ruins your day, you have a lot to figure out. “Spiraling” because an ugly person talks to you is fucking insane
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:01 PM
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I agree, “spiraling” because someone you don’t think is attractive talked to you is a terrible look. We’re all just people. Stop thinking you’re better than others just for existing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:06 PM
1

Dawg kids grow
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:33 PM
1

Right? Always funny to me when people say this and how you'll never succeed if you pay too much attention to dating, then when you ask the most successful people what motivated them a lot of times the answer is, at least partly, "girls"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:31 PM
1

Me neither. But I still don't insult other people to the depths of hell for daring to talk to me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 01:58 PM
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"I had a morbidly obese guy try hitting on me and it sent me spiraling" You people are insane
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 01:32 PM
1

"wrong," she says, after bringing it back to her boyfriend to every single comment that tries to actually address what she's talking about I'm not insulting you, just trying to help. Take it or leave it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:38 PM
3

Then how come every time someone tried to actually address what you're talking about, your response is "but what about my ex boyfriend"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:34 PM
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I did address the post. The post is about your unresolved issues with your ex boyfriend and how you don't like that men here won't validate your decision
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:31 PM
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"Who said it was just about my personal experience?" Me. I'm saying it. That's what my comment is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:26 PM
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"When women explain they had to dump a guy that kept wallowing in self-pity, guys here will come out and tell her how selfish and unempathetic she was. Guys here dont care that the guy didnt want to address his depression properly. They dont care that the guy was being toxic to everyone and used they like a free therapist. They dont care how exhausting being a free therapist is. They dont care how being with an unhappy all the time is annoying. They dont care that the woman tolerated this for ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:24 PM
1

"If he'd been like that from the beginning we would never have gone on a second date" Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:04 AM
2

haha guess I'm truly fucked then because I don't even have an instagram anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:03 AM
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"So, if you disengage from the people who are shitty, what’s the problem? My bad, was just answering your question
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:29 PM
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No, I'm trying to explain to you that constantly having to drop and find new people because everyone is shitty is tiring. You keep saying you aren't able to conceive of a problem with having to constantly try to find new people in your life. I'm trying to help you understand why that's not ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:39 PM
1

But I'm not talking about that? I'm talking about people who do socialize
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:34 PM
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I don't know why you needed all the big, bold letters to make that very obvious point, but...okay I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:33 PM
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They wouldn't. Not sure what that has to do with what I said, though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:29 PM
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I don't. I think the problem is that women want a man who is emotionally available, attentive, etc, but those qualities repulse them in men they aren't already attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:42 PM
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I mean attractive behaviors, not looks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:14 PM
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"Its really that simple." If only it was. I have female friends who rely on me for emotional companionship. Ain't nobody ever found that attractive I think the real problem is that the traits that make a man a good partner, don't make a man attractive to women, while traits that make someone a bad partner are attractive to women. Being caring, kind, considerate, attentive, etc. are great traits once you're in a relationship, but don't attract women to you in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:07 PM
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I wish I lived on whatever planet you live on. It sounds much nicer
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:08 AM
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Love how you've eliminated looks so completely you're pretending they don't even exist
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:58 AM
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Love how you've eliminated looks so completely you're pretending they don't even exist
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:55 AM
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"Most things" Like, you know, how good looking they are? Love how you've eliminated looks so completely you're pretending they don't even exist
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:53 AM
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I really hope you're 16 or something
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:14 AM
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Whatever you say *enormous eye roll*
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:16 AM
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I know they don't care, I've acknowledged multiple times they don't care. And, multiple times, I've said that's why men and women understand this situation differently
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:03 AM
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I'm sure you can. Just as I can spend all day producing examples of women shitting on men. Hence, most women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:58 AM
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I'm not. if 96 = most, then 450 also = most, and 2,500 also = most
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:01 AM
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Sure, but on an individual level we don't have to be doing things like saying a man should own his own home if he wants to date, and also that women should be forgiven for not knowing how to spend money
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:21 AM
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“ Blatant double standards exist whether we like it or not” What? No they don’t. Double standards don’t exist independent of people who hold them. They aren’t floating around in the ether waiting to be picked up and used
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:28 PM
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Women. Always to the vicious insults as soon as someone says something they don’t like. Typical
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:18 PM
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Then makes a bunch of crazy assumptions and deletes the comment out of shame. calling out your lack of self awareness really touched a nerve it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:15 PM
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96 upvotes = most men. 450 upvotes =/= most women. Thanks for at least admitting you’re just a misandrist and shouldn’t be taken seriously on the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:02 PM
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Okay, well glad you at least finally conceded the double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:52 PM
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Says I lack self-awareness but doesn't even explain how lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:52 PM
1

So you admit the majority of women only see men as wallets?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:51 PM
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Huh? But according to you, if a reddit post has close to 100 upvotes, it means that's the way the majority of people in that group think. A reddit post about women thinking men are wallets had 400 upvotes. Therefore, according to you, the majority of women think men are wallets Unless of course you're saying there's a double standard....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:46 PM
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"Word of advice- Life doesn't always turn out the way you imagine it to be." I know. But I'm not sure what that has to do with you obviously being incredibly un self aware since you aren't able to figure out that nobody is taking your advice on how to find a long term partner seriously since you don't have one yourself. Like i'm actually shocked you can be so lacking in self-awareness. It's incredible. I'm reading your comments just dumb-founded that you're confused why nobody is taking advice o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:43 PM
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Okay. As long as we can agree that the majority of women view men as wallets
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:40 PM
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I mean, you can say you're self-aware, but giving life partner advice when you have failed to find a life partner yourself kind of proves you're actually supremely un-self-aware
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:34 PM
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I'm just really confused by someone who has failed to find a life partner thinking they're an authority on how to find a life partner and talking about how....OTHER people lack self-awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:28 PM
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I know, just proving to you it's not just men who do it. Women view men as wallets. We know this is a fact. So please stop trying to double standard and say it's only men who do it to women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:27 PM
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"I am just in shock at the complete lack of self-awareness from these young men." Says the person who is planning on dying alone giving advice to men on how to find a life partner...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:18 PM
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haha damn I was wondering how you would twist this one to maintain the double standards. Well done, I'm honestly impressed you're this determined to never, ever be wrong no matter what Why does the time matter? Just because it was three years ago doesn't mean this doesn't prove women only view men as wallets. In fact, they are 4x more likely to view men as a wallet than men are to think the equivalent about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:07 PM
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I mean, anyone who is making an actual effort to improve themselves would be absolutely insane to pursue someone who makes no effort whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:59 PM
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"And I still get rejected by 99 percent of girls for not having any instagram followers." What!? Please tell me this is hyperbole and not something that has actually happened to you multiple times
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:55 PM
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Sure. You could also, ya know, just not have such blatant double standards and not put the expectation on men to give way more to a relationship than the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:40 PM
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"I would say don't be too hard on women who struggle with spending." But men have to own their own home in order to be attractive? Brutal out here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:19 PM
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Yes. Hence why women cannot comprehend this scenario the way men wish they could
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:28 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/imi9hyt3m34e1.png?width=1476&format=png&auto=webp&s=8b14a4705fd281d661057a4f0bc05dfbf1a6fec8 Hold up a second. It's 4x more certain that women only view men as a wallet than it is that men think badly about women!?!? Wow. This whole time you've just been blatantly gaslighting me. Trying to trick me into thinking it's men who think bad about women when all along women are actually 4x worse than men when it comes to this. Unbelievable. Truly. Where will the deceptions end? …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:27 PM
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I know. That's what I've been saying. Women cannot understand this situation the way men want them to because....we're different
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:08 PM
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Because for a lot of men, a lukewarm partner is all they can get. Yet another reality women cannot conceive of. Hence you being totally and completely incapable of grasping the situation and missing the point over and over again
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:53 PM
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lol yeah sure. Just because women are fine being single doesn't somehow magically mean it's not significantly easier to find someone who is enthusiastic about fucking them than it is for men. The two aren't mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:52 PM
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Right. And women can't comprehend that the first part happens to men all the time. That's why the confusion of "it would never get that far." Because women can't comprehend the first part. It is inconceivable to them, so obviously they say "that wouldn't happen"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:20 PM
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Yes, because women know they can easily find a situation that isn't that. But men get stuck in this kind of situation a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:19 PM
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"OP is describing a relationship no one would want in the first place" True, but it happens to men all the time. Is the point. And women can't even conceive of such a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:17 PM
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100 is still not more than half of 4 billion. In fact, it's magnitudes closer to zero than two billion. There's still 1 billion, 999 thousand, 900 numbers to go from 100 to 2 billion. There's only 100 numbers to get to 0 between 100 and 0 Not to mention, this isn't even an example of men viewing women badly. So not sure why you're even bringing it up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:55 PM
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So 96 of the 4 billion men on the planet now counts as "all men"? Just insane. Truly, totally unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:13 PM
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Totally agree. Just weird to see someone who openly acknowledges they've failed to find a long term partner talk as if they're an authority on how to be a good long-term partner. Though I suppose if she was self-aware enough to realize something like that, she probably wouldn't be in this position
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:10 PM
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*some* men view women Of course, due to double standards, you will say it is impossible it is just some men, even if I tried to make a similar point about women you would scream about how terrible men are for labelling all women one way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:08 PM
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So you're choosing "women are too delicate to be treated equally"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:04 PM
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I'm going to take your deflection as you finally admitting you do see the double standard but don't want to say so
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:03 PM
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No. But it seems far more likely than only 4% of fathers caring about their children
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:49 PM
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"It's not incomprehensible" The responses from women here indicate otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:46 PM
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No I said they can't understand what it's like to have a partner who is only lukewarm about fucking them. The idea of a man making them wait for sex is incomprehensible to them, hence the answers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:40 PM
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*always* do it better. Women seeing a man accompanied by another woman does way more for him than anything a man could do because it shows those other women you can't be that terrible if other women want to be around you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:05 PM
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I do, yes. Not sure what that has to do with the responses to this question being "that's impossible because I would never be in that relationship," though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:55 PM
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I actually want to know, because it would be some truly next level insanity for a woman who has totally and openly failed at finding a partner to be out here giving advice on how to get a woman to commit to you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 03:53 PM
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lol if they understood the most common comment wouldn't be "I would never be in that relationship in the first place, so..."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:25 PM
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Okay? All I'm saying is the women here can't even understand what OP is saying. Which you seem to agree with. So I'm confused why you're disagreeing anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:11 PM
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That part too! "I tried to pursue a man but he made me pay for an Uber! Obviously I can never do that again!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:03 PM
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One instagram page is enough for you to claim "most men" and lash out at them and that's totally fair and a fact that most men think this way because you saw one instagram page, so obviously that one page is super, duper factual no matter what anyone else says because, duh, it's an instagram page and an instagram page can't possibly be wrong, therefore it beyond doubt that "most men" are like this Me saying over and over I'm talking about a very small, very specific group of women, no matter how…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:00 PM
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The vast majority of comments are "well that would never happen to me, so too bad" Clearly women can't even understand what OP is saying
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:55 PM
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lol so now saying "blatant double standard" is too harsh for women to hear? Goddamn do y'all want to be treated as people or not? Either be equal and be equal, or just say you're too delicate to handle the world and must be treated accordingly. Which is fine, but don't also ask to be treated equally to men if someone telling you you have a double standard is too harsh and hurts your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:54 PM
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Right, men are more aggressive about their suicide attempts BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DIE MORE. How many times are you going to say they want to die more before just admitting it? "Because women think about their families and don't want them to find a mess. Because men are more aggressive." Wait, why are you allowed to just make claims and they can be true, but if I do it I need a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:10 PM
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No, u
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:09 PM
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And WHY do you think men use more lethal means? WHY do you think men die 3x more if attempts are roughly equal? Why don't women do what men do if they really want to die as much and men are better at killing themselves? Do you think women are just incompetent? Do you think they simply don't know a gunshot is more likely to be lethal than pills? Do you think men are better at doing math and calculating how much of a substance is necessary to die? Why do men die 3x as much if men and women attempt…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:00 PM
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I mean considering you showed me the stat proving this and still are pretending you have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm going to call total and complete BS on that one
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:46 AM
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For sure. Hilarious seeing women be just totally incapable of even conceptualizing that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:43 AM
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If you're not intelligent enough to be able to figure out that men dying 3x as often as women indicates men want to die more without a statistic proving it to you, I don't see a point in us conversing further. I don't want to waste time trying to explain extremely basic logic to someone who doesn't possess the necessary mental faculties to understand it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:40 AM
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I'm not sure why showing statistics proving it's so hard for men to get custody that only 4% of them even bother trying is supposed to convince me that courts don't heavily favor the mother Unless you're just a troll, in which case it makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:28 AM
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Like I said: troll
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:15 AM
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" And yet men kill themselves 3x more than women. "
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:14 AM
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Right? So funny this chick is like "he didn't pay for my uber one time now I'll never pursue a man again!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:11 AM
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Aren't you chronically single and have decided to die alone? Genuinely asking
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:08 AM
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Everyone knows men never get the kids. Everyone. Just stop being purposely stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:04 AM
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"Why not leave and take the kids?" If you're going to troll, you have to do better than this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:02 AM
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No they fail more because they don't really mean it and just want help Men use more violent, assured methods because they actually want to die. Women don't
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:58 AM
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Yeah, you can tell by this post that women literally cannot conceive of this scenario the way OP wants them to. As a man, it's incredibly obvious to see. Women literally are not capable of comprehending this because they will never, ever experience it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:54 AM
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"This has actually been explained before, it's because men use things like guns" Are you saying the men who used guns aren't actually dead and so don't count towards the stats? I'm confused why you think the method of killing somehow changes the statistic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:45 AM
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Then tell this guy he should have chosen better and deserves it instead of inventing a man to be angry at or to try to get people to argue with?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:40 AM
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Alright now you're truly just trolling with your responses. Hope so at least
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:17 PM
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Agreed! But I'm not lashing out at anyone, so that doesn't apply here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:26 PM
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Love the blatant double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:25 PM
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So one Instagram page is "most men," but if I make comments about 1% of women, I'm disparaging 100% of women no matter how much I say I'm talking about less than 1% of women. Love the blatant double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:29 PM
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If you understood, you would understand I'm not lashing out at all women. So clearly you do not understand
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:28 PM
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The fact that you are unable to comprehend that I am talking about some very specific women, and not women in general, no matter how many times I say it, is really worrying. I hope you have good people helping you get through the day safely
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:37 AM
1

Alright now I know for sure you're just trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:33 AM
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Of course most women don't do it. Just like most men obviously don't go online and say all women offer is their pussy. Like, where on earth did you pull that one from? Why do you keep going off on these totally random tangents that have nothing to do with what I'm saying? I will say your seemingly endless ability to bullshit instead of just saying "oh, okay" is impressive (Yes, I am aware you are going to say "BUT YOU SAOID A:LL OVWAMEN OFFER IS THEIR PUSSY." No. What I said is that the women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:15 AM
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"Women automatically improve men’s lives by being the default homemaker and caregiver." We're talking about women who have absolutely nothing to offer a relationship, remember? These women are far from being homemakers or care givers. I think you keep getting confused by this and continue talking about women who actually do have something positive to contribute If they were homemakers or care givers, they would have something to offer a relationship, and wouldn't be unjustified seeking an equal …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:21 PM
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It used to be. Now that's called being a "simp," which is the worst thing a man can be in 2024
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:06 PM
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Nope. Doing something nice for someone without getting anything back makes you a "simp" in 2024. Being a simp is shameful. Therefore, doing something nice without asking for anything in return is shameful
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:38 PM
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I'm not projecting. You literally keep asking me what I'm doing wrong instead of just saying "oh, I see your point" "So, if you disengage from the people who are shitty, what’s the problem?" Makes it hard to find anyone worthwhile when the vast, vast majority of people are shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:35 PM
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Not every single one, no. But it's definitely a disturbing number
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:28 PM
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"Why do you choose to be around people who mock you?" I don't. When that kind of behavior starts, I disengage with the person. Unfortunately it's very hard to find women in 2024 who don't think primarily about what they can take or get from other people, instead of being interested in them as people See how, once again, instead of saying maybe women are part of the problem, it's "Why are you around those people?" Just impossible to reason with you when no matter what the response is "well what d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:24 PM
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Okay. And I'm saying the ones I hang out with are. I don't understand the impulse to tell me they don't exist and these things don't happen when I'm trying to explain how these things happening is confusing for men At this point I legitimately don't know if I should be nice to women or not. Women have made me feel like an idiot for being kind without asking for sex in return so many times that I don't do it anymore. Now I make sure I will get something from a woman in return before doing somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:57 PM
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I'm not doing a gotcha, just saying what's happening. I agree most women don't do that. We're specifically talking about the ones who do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:39 PM
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What does not being able to find someone who makes your life better have to do with women who bring absolutely nothing to a relationship complaining about how all men are terrible and have nothing to offer a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:38 PM
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I agree. Which is why it's mean for women to talk about men only being useful for their money
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:33 PM
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This is the whole problem. Women are so determined to be victims that even when a valid, legitimate point is made the answer is still "well that's your problem, women can't anything wrong"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:33 PM
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But they want men to view them as such, it feels like. The number of times I've had women shame me for doing something nice for another women without getting something of value in return is terrifying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:24 PM
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She shouldn't. Not sure what that has to do with what I said though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:19 PM
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Yep. So is telling men they have nothing to offer except money. If women have a problem with being reduced to her pussy, they shouldn't reduce men to their wallet
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:17 PM
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I committed the sin of talking about women the way women talk about men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:59 PM
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I'm glad you don't think so. Sadly, this has not been my experience. The women around me have told me it's extremely shameful
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:55 PM
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"Men: “THIS POST IS PROOF THAT WOMEN DONT WANT US TO TALK ABOUT OUR FEELINGS 😤😤😤😤" I didn't say this, you must be responding to someone else "say hateful shit about how most women only can offer their pussy and trash talk men." If these women walk around talking about how all men are trash and nobody is good enough for them, I don't think it's unfair to do the same to them. If you talk about men as commodities and how none of them has anything of use to offer you, you can't be upset about people…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:53 PM
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substitue "talking" with "doing things"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:49 PM
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I don't know. But it is. My guess is a lot of is has to do with baby boomer moms who were told they can only d x, y, or z thing not wanting their daughters to have the same limiting beliefs, and in doing so accidentally teaching them to treat relationships as transactions. As a man in 2024, I can't do something kind for a woman just to be kind without someone (almost always a woman) asking me what I got out of it. The number of times I've been called a "simp" for doing something nice without ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:47 PM
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Or, maybe, just maybe....not every treatment works equally well for everyone! If a woman said therapy didn't work for her, would you make the same, automatic, very negative judgments? Personally? I tried therapy for two years. Stopped when I was having a bad day and my doctor refused to talk to me unless I hurt myself and went to the hospital. After that, I didn't feel like paying thousands of dollars to have someone pretend they want to help
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:38 PM
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lol I have very productive things to contribute! You just aren't able to connect the dots. Or refuse because you don't like it. The point: in 2024, the most shameful thing a man can do is do things for others without getting anything in return do things for others hoping to get something in return Living in a culture where genuine kindness is simultaneously the most and least shameful thing a man can do depending on the person they're doing it to is very confusing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:30 PM
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I'm aware. I was making a related point. I'm sorry that slight change of focus was too much for your brain to process and confused you so badly. Next time I'll warn you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:19 PM
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I know, but we all know lesbians love to fight more than anyone and you're over here like "it's so much better when no guys because it doesn't hurt as bad if it's a woman beating the shit out of you instead of a man!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:18 PM
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Exactly. The number of women I know who have literally nothing to offer besides their pussy who complain about how all men are trash and nobody is good enough for them and how they'd rather die alone than settle for the garbage men out there is....exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:16 PM
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No, "doing something" for someone means "doing something." ("Talking" is a different word, I'd be happy to provide a definition if you need) I changed it from "talking" since "talking" confused you when I just meant doing things You could also, you know, actually address what I said instead of playing dumb and dancing around it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:06 PM
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"The problem is we've created this "simp" culture where the most shameful thing a man can do is do anything for a woman WITHOUT having an alternative motive" sorry, does that clear it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:02 PM
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I did. It would be relevant if everyone didn't already know it was total and complete bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:00 PM
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I agree. The problem is we've created this "simp" culture where the most shameful thing a man can do is talk to women WITHOUT having an alternative motive As a man in 2024, you're taught that the only thing you can do that's worse than try to use somebody for sex, is to do nice things for women without asking for or getting anything in return
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:58 PM
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haha you just keep getting crazier! Literally been saying "more options > fewer" over and over and now you're trying to say I'm "moving the goalposts" by repeating the same thing over and over So fucking funny that you're this upset that we agree about how math works. It's okay, you can just admit you graduated middle school. I promise it's not that serious it's really not that serious
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:52 PM
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lol we both think having more options makes it more likely to find a partner than having fewer options. We agree Women, man. Such weirdos that even after starting a fight about something they agree with someone about and being told they started a fight for no reason and they don't have to be so upset, they still choose to keep fighting and saying we don't agree when we clearly agree Y'all are so funny
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:32 PM
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Like I said, I didn't look at them. Saying that women liking dating apps more than men proves lesbian relationships are better than male involving relationships makes so little sense it didn't seem worth wasting my time dealing with the other one Everyone knows lesbian relationships are by far the most volatile and tumultuous, so this entire post is you pretending you don't know that to find a reason to shit on men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:21 PM
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I said having more options is better than fewer. You're agreeing. Why are you agreeing with my point if you think it's stupid? Women, man. So fucking weird they agree with somebody and still start a fight about it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:14 PM
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No idea, but they also have nothing to do with your claim, so they're totally irrelevant either way
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:10 PM
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I really hope you're not actually this stupid and just pretending
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:08 PM
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sigh Having more options is better than having fewer. Saying it’s not true because you don’t feel like it doesn’t change the way math works Why are women so determined to play the victim they are trying to change the rules of math?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:57 PM
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lol wut? This whole post is about lesbian relationships being the smoothest, when they are notoriously known for being tumultuous and volatile OP’s so desperate to shit on men she’s literally just making shit up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:52 PM
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I’m not mad, just confused. Since what you said has nothing to do with what I said But glad you’re okay and just making random ass comments
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:49 PM
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Did you have a seizure or something and respond to the wrong comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:45 PM
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I didn't twist your words. You said this woman's standards were realistic and she found someone to meet them. She broke up with the guy. Therefore, she is breaking up with someone who was giving her what she wanted in a relationship and was meeting her needs That's just what you said. Don't say the things you're saying if you don't like what you're saying? Not sure what you're looking for here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:56 PM
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I wish we lived in this fairy land you describe where all you have to do to get a wife is believe it hard enough
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:46 PM
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Women break up with men who are giving them what they want in a relationship now? Y'all have officially reached a new level of crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:43 PM
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For some men? Definitely not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:32 PM
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"WE DON'T JUST WANT CASUAL SEX." That doesn't change his point at all. 40 matches gives you a better chance of finding someone who doesn't just want casual sex than 10 matches. Women can say this is true as much as they want, but that doesn't change the way math works
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 01:03 PM
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Too bad for them! They will survive the terrifying encounter just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:43 PM
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No I don’t know how you jumped from “people talk about being lonely in real life” to whatever you were ranting about re incels
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:44 PM
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When you started going off on a weird tangent about incels or whatever you were saying
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:05 PM
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The things you’re saying have absolutely nothing to do with the things I’m saying and I don’t know the mental gymnastics you’re doing to pretend it does
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:51 PM
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God you’re stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:45 PM
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Okay. That has nothing to do with anything I said and I have no idea where you even pulled that from, but…thanks for sharing your random thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:35 PM
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“ And just for the record, someone choosing to be with a shitty man doesn't mean the man isnt shitty.” lol no shit. Why the fuck would you even bother clarifying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:28 PM
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What are you even talking about? Jesus you’re insane. All I’m saying is people do in fact talk about male loneliness in real life, I have no idea what else you’re saying
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:25 PM
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Okay. But putting yourself in a bad situation and refusing to remove yourself from it then complaining about not having high enough standards is just insane. Just...don't be in situationships if you don't want to? At a certain point, women have to be held accountable for their own actions. They are full human beings with functioning brains, just like men. They are intelligent enough to help themselves. They don't need to intentionally put themselves in bad situations, then pretend like they have…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:45 PM
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Nope, but good try
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:43 PM
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Naw, dawg, go back and look again, you'll see I never said people talk to you all the time about this and you're lying about it. You're just extremely sensitive and so interpreted them the same
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:59 AM
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lol we have a whole ass generation of millennial women who were raised on the doctrine of "know your worth, never let a man tell you what you deserve, never settle because you're too good for that" who now walk around bringing absolutely nothing to do the table besides their bodies complaining about how all men are trash and it's not worth dating because nobody is good enough and you want them to RAISE their standards!? Millennial women are truly fucked all the way up by these fairy tales they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:24 AM
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This...is a made up problem. I think what you meant to say is "women should make better choices" instead of "raise their standards"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:19 AM
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No. To do that I would have to say that you're wrong that you don't hear people talking about it and they actually do talk to you about it all the time I just said some people do hear it in real life, even if you don't. See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:57 AM
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Only one of us is trying to tell the other our life experience can't be possible because it ruins our narrative and that's not allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:49 AM
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Please try and be a tiny bit open-minded - the world is bigger than what your eyes can see and ears can hear
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:46 AM
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lol I hear people talking about this in real life all the time. Just because you don't personally hear it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Please try and be a tiny bit open-minded - the world is bigger than what your eyes can see and ears can hear
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:35 AM
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The women here are so fucking exhausting. Person makes a valid point about the way women generally see their friends (male ones in general) as more of a utility than a human being and the response is "well you deserve to be treated that way for daring to question us"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:26 AM
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“Entitlement is feeling like you are owed something. I don't understand how someone having the view that "women reward bad behavior" is related to entitlement.” It obviously isn’t, but they need something to keep being angry at men for, so they’ve convinced themselves it is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:17 PM
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“I, personally, have better things to think about. Its just I have rarely ever put priority on romance. Too much of a headache” That is how privilege works, yes. Something you’re so used to you have no idea how much you take it for granted. Many privileged people are unaware of their privilege, so you aren’t alone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:15 PM
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I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean women don't give bad advice. Men can both want something unreasonable (instant sex advice), and women can give bad advice. They don't have to be mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:27 PM
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"They want to know ‘the cheat code’ on to get sex asap and there is no quick way to do that without lying and deceiving women" Right, so why not give advice that...just isn't that? You act like you have no control over the advice you give men. If you don't want to tell men how to trick women into bed, then...don't? And instead give actual relationship advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:40 PM
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"Most men have sex and LTR. So why are you pretending its a huge factor? " THIS is why men say women give bad advice. Because it changes, constantly, depending on the context and the person you're talking to. In so many other posts you've talked about how much looks matter and how you better be rich as a guy if you're ugly if you want to date, or "be happy single" And now here you are pretending to pretend that looks aren't a big factor in dating, because doing so in this circumstance would weak…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:28 PM
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" I’m wondering how many women ARE purposely giving men bad advice because they don’t want to help men learn how to con/deceive women. 🤔" What? Why would you give a man advice on how to deceive women if you're worried about a man deceiving women? Why wouldn't you just give advice that doesn't involve being deceitful?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:23 PM
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Nobody said it was bad, relax. He just said "be yourself" is great dating advice for women, which is why women give it and think it works for men and then are confused when it doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:18 PM
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My bad, when you said partner I thought you meant partner, not “penis”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:38 PM
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“Considering someone’s needs” is literally a form of mind reading, come on now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 03:41 PM
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*who is extremely conventionally attractive, you forgot to add No woman has ever found a man attractive just because he’s “caring.” Perpetuating these kinds of blatant lies is what makes the dating world so confusing. Women have made it clear being nice isn’t an attractive quality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:45 PM
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Yep. I’ve been told that, as a man, you are a bad person if You do nice things for women and expect it to be reciprocated in some way You do nice things for women without asking or expecting anything in return and get taken advantage of and act like a “simp” Wild we’ve gotten to the point where, no matter your approach, if the woman isn’t interested you did something wrong and are a bad person
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 01:26 PM
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I’m so confused, I’ve never heard someone say you shouldn’t find your partner attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:35 AM
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“So why would they just expect to hear compliments that we both know are lies?” Because people, generally, find their significant other attractive? I’ve never heard of a relationship where the man just straight up tells the woman she isn’t attractive that works very well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:21 AM
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That works!?!? You actually, literally tell women you don’t find them attractive and they’re fine with it? Like they keep wanting to date you, despite you not being attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:37 PM
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I know, so funny reading comments from women being like, "what do you mean how do I date? I wait and someone asks me out and then I say yes or no. Like a normal person. I don't know why you guys make it seem so hard"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:08 PM
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I'm just so confused. If a woman asks you if she looks nice are you just like, "of course not, how could you look nice? I only pursue average women, which means you can't look nice"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:56 AM
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Damn, I really hope you don't tell these women you pursue how utterly unremarkable and plain you find them. I feel terrible that the guy pursuing them thinks "it’s nonsense" if someone considers something about them attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:28 AM
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I do. I already tried to explain to you that our ideas of “average” are different, remember? And, being a woman, you told me that’s not allowed, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:44 PM
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“It seems like you’re confusing actual plain insignificant average women with cute women you find attractive. Cute, attractive women are not average.” No. I’m not. I’m allowed to find something attractive about the average woman. You don’t get to decide what I do and do not consider attractive. You keep telling me you do, but that doesn’t make it true, unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:54 PM
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"They can’t be insignificant, but yet you noticed something about them. That means you found those women attractive. Yes, this is what I keep telling you, the average woman has at least one attractive feature. I don't know why this is so difficult for you to comprehend. It's really not that complicated a concept. I'm honestly confused why you're so determined to tell me I can't find average women attractive. Just weirdo behavior, dawg Women, man. So determined to never be wrong no matter what, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:40 PM
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lol I guess you don't realize, but now you're telling me my life experience isn't my life experience. You're telling me I'm wrong that I find at least one admirable quality in almost every woman I meet I hope you see how strange that it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 01:20 AM
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We have a very different idea of average, I guess. The vast, vast majority of women I encounter have at least one feature I admire. Like, it's very, very rare to meet a woman and not find anything at all notable about her appearance Like I keep saying, to me what you're describing is hideously ugly. Not average
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:14 AM
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I guess you just aren’t listening when I keep telling you above average men will gladly fuck average women if they don’t need to put in any effort You keep telling me men should know, just from looking at her, that a woman is being pursued by above average men. You’re telling me it’s a man’s fault if he doesn’t know who else a woman is dating. You’re telling me men shouldn’t talk to women who are dating men who are better than them. I’m asking how men are supposed to know, just by looking at her…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:28 PM
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“ Or are men aware of the competition and they still do it anyways?” What? How is a guy supposed to know who the person they’re talking to is talking to? Should I ask a girl to show me the last five men she hooked up with to make sure they aren’t above average before asking her on a date? I’m confused how you want this to work I’m truly flabbergasted that you’re legitimately holding men accountable for not knowing who a girl is dating before getting to know her. You once again have surprised me …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:47 PM
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“Thats the problem. If both average and above average men are gonna choose a the same group of women to interact with, then that’s just gonna be a lot of competition.” Right, but you’re blaming the wrong party. It’s not men’s fault average women think they deserve better than average and think average men are beneath them and not worth dating. It’s not men’s fault women do everything in their power to date up while ignoring their equals. I’m not sure how you came to the conclusion that men are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:03 PM
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“I already addressed that. If that guy is asking her to Netflix and chill, while an average guy asks her out to a real date.. she will most likely go on the date” I ignored it because women don’t operate this way. Like this would never happen. Girls LOVE to ignore the date guy for the Netflix and chill guy and then complain loudly about how nobody will take them on a real date “Go for the women that Chads ignore and sneer at.” Again, this means hideously ugly, not average. Average women don’t ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:13 PM
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"So why would he be wasting his time trying to get with her?" Because men like sex and will usually take it if offered even if they don't want to date the chick? Like, really? How are you even asking this question? Are you trolling or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:03 PM
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"The problem is, you guys are probably still only pursuing women that are going on dates with these guys. Thats what I mean by average women, they have to be women that above average men would not stoop down to." You're describing a woman who is hideously unattractive, not "average"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:43 PM
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"You’re making it harder for yourself if you are pursuing women that can access men that are better than you." Right, but you're ignoring the part where women can ALWAYS access men who are "out of their league" because men will have casual sex with them, but not commit to a relationship. So average women are sleeping with above average men because it's easy for the above average men. So average men aren't able to compete for average women because average women are still going for men "out of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 12:34 PM
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lol you have it completely backwards. It's WOMEN who are all competing for the top men. The average millennial woman is under the delusion she is a 12/10 and deserves any man she wants and should never, ever settle for less Even if you go for an average girl, she's trying to go after guys above her league and thinks she's too good for men who are actually in her "league"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:32 AM
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"If you're an unfortunate looking man who is socially awkward and weird/creepy...you are shit out of luck." Even if you aren't socially awkward and unfortunate looking, you can still be shit out of luck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:20 AM
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If they already find you attractive, sure. It can definitely make you MORE attractive, but on its own it wont convince anyone to fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:38 PM
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I never said it wouldn’t attract people to me. It’s a great way to make friends. I said it’s not an attractive trait. As in, it will not impact whether women want to have sex with you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:21 PM
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No, they don’t. No woman has ever looked at a man and said “wow he’s so emotionally intimate, I want to fuck him now” It’s a good quality to have in a partner. It is not, in itself, an attractive quality, which is to say not a quality that will attract people to you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:14 PM
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Agreed! But I'm not sure how that invalidates having ten options makes your chances of finding someone your compatible with higher than if you have two options. I'm just confused why you're so determined to try and deny what is very basic logic and common sense Are you under the impression that people who get fewer matches have a much higher quality of person they match with or something? Only way I can make this make any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:53 PM
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I mean, it is. But for the sake of argument just take them to mean the same thing. Nothing I wrote changes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:21 PM
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So you're saying that meeting more people doesn't increase your chances of meeting someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:19 PM
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True! Still doesn't make it a quality women consider attractive. Not sure why you're so determined to try and prove otherwise when literally everyone knows this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:03 PM
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I'm very likeable and very undesirable There is almost zero connection between likability and desirability. Women explicitly tell men this all the time, hence all the "nobody cares that you're nice, just being a good person isn't going to get you laid"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:18 PM
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True! That has nothing to do with what I said, but...true enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:53 PM
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No it's not. Women value emotional intimacy once they are attracted to a man. Emotional intimacy, in itself, is not a quality women find attractive Hence women getting angry at men being confused that being nice doesn't get them anywhere in the dating world, because posts like this lie and tell us other wise
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:29 PM
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Yes, it is. That's how life and evolution work. It's mostly just luck
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:25 PM
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Of course it does. Having more options increases your chances of finding the right person. The person who has ten people willing to go on a date with them has a much better chance of finding someone than the person who has two people willing to go on a date with them. I don't understand why people make this obviously false argument. Like, why is it so terrible to say women have it easier dating right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:20 PM
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All the post says is "people should be nice to each other" There's nothing interesting to say to that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:10 PM
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Phew!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:42 PM
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"I’m saying mainstream guys who are in the public eye who are rapping about screwing girls left and right?" I really hope this is a joke, because holy hell
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:39 PM
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Right and people USED to think saying those things are okay. Now they do not. See what I’m getting at yet? Or are you still not making the connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:09 PM
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Okay. I mean that has nothing to do with anything I said, but...good to know I guess? Not really sure why you're telling me this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:00 PM
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*guy tells the world he's a virgin, showing he clearly is not ashamed of it* "I know what will make him ashamed! Call him a virgin! I unlocked the secret cheat code!!!! Can't believe nobody before me was smart enough to think to shame someone who isn't ashamed of being a virgin for being a virgin! That'll show him!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:56 PM
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The majority of white people in America used to think it was cool to lynch Black people The majority of Germans thought it was cool to gas Jews The majority of people thought women shouldn't be allowed to work or vote What on earth point is the point you are trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:51 PM
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"I don't know guys, I mean the Jews aren't that bad but, like, I feel like some of them do kind of deserve to be gassed?" "Like surely in some cases it's fine to lynch Black people. I mean, some of them DO deserve it, right?" "Most women are fine, but we can all agree the ones that talk too loud shouldn't be allowed to leave the house, right? Just the loud ones, I mean. The rest are fine to leave"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:48 PM
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lol she literally did again: " If a guy doesn't meet my standards, it's irrelevant whether he's equal to me." That's literally what she is saying. Like, literally, there is nothing else "If a guy doesn't meet my standards, it's irrelevant whether he's equal to me." could possibly mean other than "i deserve to date someone better than me" Equal to her = not good enough for her Therefore, she wants someone better than her and believes she deserves it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:49 PM
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“You're exactly who I'm talking about.” Didn’t read past this because I’m not and I don’t want to read an essay you really want to send to someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 06:43 PM
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"I think those men are you, given your first response to my comment" Uhh, no, I definitely did not say that, you must be confusing me with someone else Well I think it's an issue of, women can sleep with high quality men, but not get those men to commit because they mistakenly think "if I can sleep with him, I can date him," because that's how women work, but men don't. Then after spending years casually dating, but not getting into serious relationships with, these higher quality men, these wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:20 PM
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Those men sound shitty, I'm sorry you've been told that I agree, I also think that would be a bad idea. Not really related, but I suppose a point that exists
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:02 PM
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Okay. Then I guess I'm confused because the issue of women's inflated standards has clearly led to a lot of women being very unhappy with dating, so why is it such a terrible thing to try and solve it? Like, why pretend this is a made up thing men complain about when there are obviously many women who it effects?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:52 PM
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"Every single time a guy says "wOmEn'S iNfLaTeD sTaNdArDs" he's really just saying women are bad for wanting what we want, instead of what they think we should want" Aren't women pretty unhappy with the dating landscape as well? Like in terms of getting guys to actually commit and stuff? Your raving would make sense if women were actually happy with the current dating marketplace, but...are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:11 PM
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She said if someone equal to her doesn't meet her standards. Meaning she wants to date someone better than her, not someone equal to her. Which means she thinks she deserves someone better than she is. Come on now, think a little
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:02 PM
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"Idk why you brought your friend's trauma into this. Nobody was talking about dating challenges with ptsd." You said if a person is failing in dating, it's their fault and their fault alone. Does that not apply to people with PTSD? You don't think a significant percentage of people who struggle dating do so because of past trauma?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:59 AM
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"I disagree their is no data that shows men aren't getting into relationships or having sex. Cite your source." Can you cite yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 01:01 PM
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The problem isn't men, the problem is your terrible attitude. Nobody actually thinks like this, you're just making it up and demonizing men instead of working on yourself and being happy. You're insecure, which is causing these delusions. Work on that, then get back to us
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:06 AM
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Why are you dating one then? Seems like it's pretty obviously against your own self-interests to date men if all they do is take and use women for sex. Really weird to be so against the idea of men but be dating a man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:59 AM
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"Most people don't support ether side. whats with the black and white cult like idea? That's America for you. Our country wasn't meant to last. Turns out basing an entire country on the concept that each individual person's happiness is the most important thing in the universe wasn't the best idea
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:51 AM
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I find it very hard to believe the tens of millions of people who are struggling to get by and are desperate for any change to make their lives a little easier were voting thinking about women's rights being collateral damage
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:47 AM
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I'm not resentful, just sad
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:35 PM
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"Unless you're short you have a lot to work with" I am very short. So you're saying I'm right to have zero standards
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 03:11 PM
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Right. You're saying you consider commitment a gift you can retract at any time for any reason. Meaning your "commitment" is totally meaningless, at least to the person "receiving" it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:41 PM
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"It comes without strong attached but it's still a gift I can take away for any reason and no reason at all." Right, so, in other words...meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:54 PM
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"I never had an orgasm and wanted to work on that but I’m not able to relax during sex for couple of years now because I’m over 31 now and I know that my husband can’t be attracted to me because I’m old." lol wut
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:37 PM
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I'm a guy with zero standards, but that's because I have zero options. Beggars can't be choosers, etc. What do you recommend?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:28 PM
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Right? Surprised so many people are falling for it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:15 PM
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Really? I hope you’re just trolling that this point because if not that’s very worrying. You’re saying men aren’t successful with women because they don’t put in as much effort as women do. You’re also saying men have to put in a lot of effort to attract women who put in no effort
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:18 PM
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Did you forget the point of the entire post or something? I said a lot of men have to put in a lot of effort to attract women who put in no effort and you said “stay single then” Three times, in favt
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:28 PM
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“Insinuating others will understand what you’re inferring is a wrong way to get your point across.” Clearly. Guess I have to stop overestimating people’s intelligence and critical thinking skills
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 05:28 PM
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Bro I have no fucking idea what you're trying to say anymore I thought it was pretty fucking obvious that it's not only literally 20% of men having sex. I thought it was obvious that the top 20% thing is an idea that women try to follow, and we can see how that attitude effects dating overalll. Sorry that had to be explained and spelled out to you in detail for you to be able to grasp it? Is that what you're getting at? "people are having less sex" is not a statistic. That's a statement. A stati…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:55 PM
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According what to who? No idea what you're referring to since I was only talking about anecdotes I heard from women Huh? Again, no idea what you're saying. Do I think the top 20% thing is real? Yeah. Do I think it's an absolute rule that nobody has ever broken? Of course not, because it's not only the top 20% of men in relationships I'm confused why you keep calling it made up. Are you saying all the studies and statistics about this are wrong? If so, where's your proof? Or are you saying that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:33 PM
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You in your post: Men should put in effort to attract women the way women put in effort to attract men You in the comments: Men should put in a lot of effort to attract women who put in no effort and be happy about it See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:33 PM
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"well you’re clearly not acknowledging the things I said" Huh? I did. You said men need to put in effort because women do. I pointed out that men have to put in a lot of effort just to attract women who put in no effort whatsoever. You said "be happy single," while ignoring that you totally switched your view from the post to the comments Did I miss something? "And I doubt you even read my post because I literally laid out the four options, including being happy single." If I didn't read your po…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:16 PM
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Yeah, thanks for admitting you are gaslighting and bullshitting for the sake of relentlessly hating men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:23 PM
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Well, I'm glad you're at least acknowledging that everything you're saying is total bullshit and full of hypocrisy and your only real stance is to be anti-men, no matter what /thread, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:22 PM
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You're kidding, right? This has to be satire
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:01 PM
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But those don't count because all the other times they aren't deceived, they're definitely always right
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:44 PM
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"Please stay on topic. This is absolutely nothing with what I’m saying" Yes it does. The point of your post is to tell men to match the effort levels women put into dating. Every single one of your comments is saying the opposite, that men should put in significant effort to attract zero effort women You: "Women put in effort to attract men, so men need to put in effort to attract women" Comments: "But men need to put in a lot of effort just to attract women who put in no effort whatsoever and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:42 PM
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"What women (and men) fail to understand is that in the modern dating landscape, the problem is that women have too many options." Yeah it's strange to me that some women are so determined to deny this instead of just being happy it's the case "Then, by supply and demand, why would a below average woman, who has access to above average man right off the bat, pick a "self improved buff midget"?" And then when he says it didn't work women will tell him the problem is he feels entitled to sex and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:34 PM
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haha yeah I know, can't gaslight if you acknowledge it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:26 PM
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"Get buff, have a good personality, and plenty of women will come after him. Even if its mostly unattractive women themselves." You don't see that the problem with your statement is they're dependent upon men having to put in a lot of effort to attract low effort women? You're simultaneously telling us women put effort into appealing to men so men should put effort into appealing to women, but also that men need to put in significant effort just to attract no effort women See the imbalance? See …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:41 AM
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"The issue is that women want the top men like men want the top hot women too." The difference is men are willing to date outside that top 20%, but women aren't nearly as much "Instead of just taking men’s anecdotes as true, try to question them how you question women. Men only go for a certain type of women too. Just how there is hot men there is hot women. It’s not just one sided where only women like some men." I'm not taking men's anecdotes as true. I'm taking the statistics showing women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 02:58 AM
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Just explaining to you that the problem is that your friends’ standards are too high, not that men’s are and they’re ignoring average women, as you tried to claim
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:50 PM
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Great answer Agree men need to learn to socialize better, but I don’t think that totally solves the problem of women trying to only date the top 20% of men and ignoring the rest
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:30 PM
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“To clarify, their position isn't that there are no good men but that the kind of men that they want are already in stable relationships” Right. In other words, they aren’t attractive enough to date men they deem attractive. In other words…their standards are too high
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:18 PM
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It's not a conspiracy, but go off sis
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:02 PM
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Yes, they're lying that there are no good men, that's what I'm saying. I'm glad you finally got it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:01 PM
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just what the stats say. To me that's more convincing than you just saying "no" with zero evidence to back it up
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:00 PM
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I'm not sure how that invalidates anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:59 PM
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Okay. So what's the problem? Seems to me average should go with average. Seems like these average women are saying average isn't good enough for them. So, they want better than average when they are average. So the problem is their standards are too high, since they are average but complain the men they attract aren't better than average
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:58 PM
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I know that, don't worry. I'm not sure what made you think I don't know that or feel the need to make that extremely unnecessary comment, but go off sis
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:57 PM
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All the stats show that women do everything in their power to only date the top 20% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:56 PM
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"What I'm saying is that I think I would probably look at my wife's friends and think they are average, whereas you would call them below average." Not true. And now your whole argument is gone, because it's based on a made up idea Not that it really matters in this case. Again, what were your wife's friends complaining about? That men didn't meet their standards. Not that they didn't meet men's standards. Case closed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:55 PM
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You're saying your wife's friends can't find men who meet their standards, but also that the problem is that men's standards are too high to give women like your wife's friends a chance, so you clearly don't have a strong understanding of your own social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:45 PM
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"Third option: when men assess women, their standards are way too high and they are actually just dismissing the opinions of average women." No. Remember, you said your wife's friends were saying that they can't find any men who meet their standards. They weren't saying they can't get dates because men won't give them a chance. How can men be the one's whose standards are too high if your wife's friends are saying they can't find men who meet their standards? Think
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:40 PM
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"That's literally all it would take to get a date with them" You forgot *as long as he attractive enough to meet the looks threshold necessary to register as a human man to these women* Because obviously there are plenty of incredible men out there, but your wife's friends don't consider them in the dating "sea." If they're sincerely believe there are no good men, that means they literally don't consider men who don't meet the looks threshold to be human
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:25 PM
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"Woman save more male lives by having intimacy and sex with them believe it or not" As someone who has struggled mightily to find intimacy, I believe this 100% Humans aren't supposed to be alone forever. I don't know when being lonely became this terrible deserving of derision and scorn, but it makes me sad that's where we are as human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:17 PM
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Oh I don't believe any of that myself. Literally any woman on the planet would be lucky to have me as a partner, and I truly believe that. In terms of being a person with integrity, values, character etc. I've never met someone who I'd consider to be on my level It's one of the other infuriating things for me, seeing people who are so used to dating being easy that they totally take people for granted and treat them like shit, without any consequences. In fact people have somehow convinced thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:09 PM
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I leave the house every day. Dating is still extremely hard. Telling women "but I left the house, I thought that was all I had to do?" when they reject me hasn't made a difference yet
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:58 PM
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Can't I do the same thing by removing myself from the market entirely?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:54 PM
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"If guys didn’t give attention to women they weren’t attracted to or interested in" I mean, women could also start believing them when they say they don't want anything serious instead of ignoring it and telling themselves that, if they just stick around long enough, he'll change his mind
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:48 PM
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"A lot of lonely men trying to find an explanation for it but it really just comes down to how unlikeable people have gotten due to their chronically online behavior." So you're saying being chronically online has made men unlikable and undatable, but not women? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:44 PM
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lol so I guess you're just ignoring the part about you being a top 20% person, which is why you can't conceive of the idea that dating might be harder for others than it is for you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:41 PM
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Because for some women it is absolutely vital for them to maintain the belief that it's only men who are superficial, so that when they themselves are even more shallow and superficial they can say "well he did it first so mine doesn't even count"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:39 PM
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"It's a waste of time and all it does undermine your confidence and outlook on women." Exactly. It was either matching and chatting with cute girls who would disappear once I suggested a date, or bottom of the barrel chicks who were willing to actually meet The thing that sucks as a short guy that people can't understand is not being able to have standards for a partner that match your own. I life a relatively active lifestyle (just for my job I walk two miles each way, and am on my feet pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:34 PM
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Haha I'm definitely not that handsome, I meant in terms of personality and the kind of values you'd want in a partner, aka the things women claim they care about the most, I'm as good as it gets After 4 years of genuine effort with no results, I gave up on online dating at the start of the year. I'm 5'3, so it's really just an exercise in negative reinforcement
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:15 PM
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"It’s a higher percentage of women out there than most realize" Agreed, these millennial women are now in their mid-late 30's are only just realizing it themselves. One of those things where it's impossible to see that it's an issue when you're the person it's happening to, until it's too late
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:03 PM
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Can't tell if this is genuine or snark
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:53 PM
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"Keep spinning the wheel of top guys until your ego is destroyed I guess." not to mention demonizing every man who actually wants to date her, who she deems inferior to her now
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:49 PM
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I definitely appreciate it. Better than the typical "I'd rather die alone than date a short guy...but also women only care about personality so if you struggle it's because you're a bad person, not because you're short" gaslighting women love to give
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:46 PM
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"yet y'all don't listen and keep trotting out the top 10% shit." Because women constantly lie about this stuff and try to gaslight men. All the stats show women all try to go for the 20% of men and very rarely date outside of that. Women will write a man off if his fingernails aren't clean or if his voice is too feminine, so stop with the "we don't care about the little things as much as men do" nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:30 PM
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The far bigger problem is average/mid women who think they deserve top tier men because they got pumped and dumped a few times and now think that's their actual worth Then when they can't get a top tier man to actually commit, they struggle settling for average/mid men because they think getting pumped and dumped by a top tier man means they deserve that forever The biggest problem in dating right now is 90% of women thinking they deserve a top 20% man and refusing to date below that because "yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:24 PM
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I'm the exact same, this idea of "lowering your standards" just doesn't really make sense to me I do struggle, mainly because I'm really short. As a partner, I would be as good as anyone, but that's never mattered. It's a strange experience being a better person and potential partner than the vast majority of people, but having extremely low SMV because of this one thing I can't do anything about. The idea that I have to do all this work only to lower my standards to basically zero to to give my…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:17 PM
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"dating is not supposed to be hard." It's not. But it is. Telling everyone it's not doesn't make it, in reality, less difficult. You're clearly just a top 20% person, which is why it's easy for you to say "dating should be fun, just stop worrying about it guys"...because for you dating is fun and not hard
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:58 PM
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Okay this is hopeless, you still can't figure it out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 10:44 PM
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Jesus fucking Christ how are you still not getting this? You keep saying you want men to leave you alone, if they weren’t struggling to figure out what women are looking for, they would struggle less and not bother you as much
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 10:21 PM
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I said I don’t care if men bother you, but you seem to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:15 PM
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The point is to get men to stop bothering you, how have you not grasped that yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:10 PM
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I never said I cared. You're the one who can't stand people approaching you, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:54 PM
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Again, nobody said they are. But you don't seem capable of connecting the dots and see that these men would leave you alone if we found a solution instead of just treating people like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:26 PM
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So...you don't actually want men to leave you alone and truly are too stupid to see how solving this problem could be beneficial for both men and women. Got it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:57 PM
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Forever? Your entire life? You never want to speak to a man again? You don't have any interest in a long-term partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:49 PM
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And you make women sound stupid by pretending you can't figure out how finding a solution together would be beneficial for both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:14 AM
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Okay, yeah, you have to be trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:03 AM
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Are you trolling? If you are, you're doing a good job, because I really can't tell
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:02 AM
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"Yeah those men are with those women because they have realistic standards, that’s why they’re taken and not having a hard time." Right. So this standard of "men only date supermodels" doesn't exist, since this is the vast, vast majority of the human population. Normal people, still in relationships, not dying alone because they can't find a super model to marry Are there some men who are like this? Yes, of course. But it's far from a "standard"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:58 PM
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"Those men are taken though so they aren’t the ones complaining about womens “high” standards." But you said men only date super models. If that's true, how can all of the couples where the woman isn't a supermodel exist? "This is why a lot of men can’t find dates, they have a smaller pool to choose from. Women will always have a bigger pool since we aren’t the ones expecting celebrities and Victoria Secret models" You have this so completely wrong and backwards it's not even worth discussing wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:23 PM
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The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people are "average." Like, you know all the normal couples you see walking around everywhere, all the time, every day? They're all average Do you know what "average" means?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:16 PM
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I guess you're forgetting women only message the top 20% of men, so this wouldn't really show anything
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:14 PM
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"If it wasn’t enforced, then the current beauty standard wouldn’t be what I described. The standard you described doesn't exist. I see men with women who aren't supermodels every single day. According to you this doesn't happen and is impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:05 AM
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"And men can always wait for women to message them first or ask them out first." Okay now you're just getting into trolling territory
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:51 AM
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"99% of men would have to find her plain and average to the point where they would pass on her completely." You're describing hideously ugly, not average. An average person would have an average number of people attracted to them. Someone who 99% of people are not attracted to is pretty damn unattractive, not "average"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:49 AM
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"99% of men would have to find her plain and average to the point where they would pass on her completely." You're describing hideously ugly, not average. An average person would have an average number of people attracted to them. Someone who 99% of people are not attracted to is pretty damn unattractive, not "average"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:49 AM
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Okay, just letting you know you were criticizing OP for nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:19 AM
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"deserves" doesn't mean the same thing as "entitled"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:07 AM
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"Good" is not the opposite of "dumb." You can be both good and dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:46 PM
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5'3
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:51 AM
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As a man who is the kind of short where women would rather die alone than settle with me...I don't see "improving" helping much
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:46 AM
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Lol the number of tall guys I know who are extremely proud of themselves for being tall...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 09:16 AM
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Where are the quotes from these same people saying women should put up with their baggage? Or are you just assuming they think that so you can make your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:06 PM
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I have never, ever seen a single person simultaneously express both these sentiments. I don't know a single man who thinks like this. It's so far from my experience that it's honestly hard to believe someone like this could actually exist, but if you say you see them all the time, then fair enough. I'm sorry you've encountered so many people like this, they sound terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:51 PM
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I haven't seen a single person say women aren't allowed to have emotional baggage but men are. If you can show me the person saying women can't have baggage but men can, I'll change my mind. But I'm 99% sure you're taking opinions from different people and combining them into a person who doesn't actually exist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:12 PM
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I think you're trying to talk to one very specific, real life man about this, but instead keep making incredibly general statements everyone disagrees with because they're incredibly general and are getting upset the answers aren't the ones you'd want to hear from the person you actually want to talk to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:30 PM
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Glad you're admitting you don't actually want vulnerability and just pretend so you can rage about it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:54 AM
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Except if he was inexperienced and hid it well enough to convince he wasn't inexperienced, you wouldn't know he was inexperienced
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:40 AM
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Right, so, what you're saying is, women don't like men being vulnerable. You might tolerate it sometimes, but all your posts indicate you just don't like it If a guy can be vulnerable, but only a certain amount and then it's a problem, you clearly don't like vulnerability
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:25 AM
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This is satire, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:39 PM
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Women do the same exact thing? Why do women love to do this thing where they take something that both genders do, then pretend it's only men who do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:38 AM
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Oh okay, didn't realize "traditional" necessitated being a religious nut
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:21 PM
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No I believe in you, you can do it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:27 PM
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lol that really hurt your feelings that much you're resorting to sarcastic emojis?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:25 PM
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I'm just saying, you're discovery of anxiety isn't as mind-blowing as you seem to think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:21 PM
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There is literally no difference between what you said and what I said. All you did was explain what anxiety is to me. I told you I know what it is. you kept explaining it for some reason, no matter how many times I told you I already know what it is I'm confused how you're so blown away by what anxiety is and how it works
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:12 PM
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No, I didn't. I know what anxiety is and how it works. I understand it is all just in your head and irrational. I thought this was something everyone knew, but I guess not "You are perceiving things that often aren’t happening AT ALL based on how YOU think OTHER PEOPLE are thinking." Right. Again: this is how anxiety works. It's really not that complicated. Why do you keep explaining the same thing after I tell you I understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:07 PM
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"So then unattractiveness is not the SOURCE of your anxiety it’s your own negative mind state." Right, that's how anxiety works. Your brain irrationally reacts to something that isn't as big a deal as you think it is. Yes, you understand anxiety, good job. Yes, technically the only source of anxiety is the human brain. Everyone knows this. Most people are able to understand this and also see that external factors can trigger/contribute to anxiety. That is why they are called "sources," not becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:01 PM
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" I didn’t say there was no connection, I said there was no DIRECT connect" What's the difference? "f you agree with my last statement about the feedback loop, then in that example it isn’t the lack of attractiveness that creates the anxiety. It is the VALUE that YOU place on being attractive, and what THAT does to your PERCEPTION of how people see you, that you are reinforcing with your behavior." Duh, that's how anxiety works. For everyone, for every type of anxiety. You understanding how anxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:53 AM
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"Ok so you just basically proved my point" Huh? You said there is no connection between attractiveness and social anxiety. I'm saying that's blatantly not true. How did I prove your point? "So if WE feel unattractive or unworthy, we will perceive people as treating us that way and we will then behave in a way that reinforces what we already believe, like a feedback loop." True! Not sure what this has to do with being unattractive being a source of anxiety though?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:44 AM
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"So is your claim that there is a different kind of anxiety that comes with being unattractive?" Are you actually asking this? I'm so confused how you've managed to not come across this extremely simple concept... "And what about people that have always been attractive that also have anxiety?" I would say anxiety comes from a lot of places and being attractive doesn't make one immune to that. Isn't it sort of obvious that being attractive just removes one possible source of anxiety?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:33 AM
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Really? Well, I guess I can see it. If you're attractive and have always been attractive, you have no idea how much it really helps, so I can see how you aren't able to fathom a link between attractiveness and anxiety since you've never had to deal with it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:09 AM
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"While most men (especially the traditional type) like to see themselves as being above women in some way" lol where the hell do you people get these ideas from?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:06 AM
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"Where as I am attractive guy who has struggled with anxiety and social awkwardness and have had much less success with women than i likely could have had had I not had crippling anxiety." Don't you think being unattractive would have added to your anxiety though?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 11:05 AM
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"I'd empathize with them if they weren't rude, unkind, or were a joy to be around. I empathize with those who are kind and a joy to be around." Who is "them"? You came in here being cruel and unempathetic. Don't pretend like you want to empathize but can't because of "them," when there is no "them" here and you still are making no effort to empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:52 AM
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"Nobody loves you and you're going to die alone? Just get over it already, jeez"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:48 AM
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"Why would you pretend to know about orbiters, girlfriendzoners, or all the unappealing men who monopolize women’s time in an attempt to win them over? I'm not? I just don't think they consist of 100% of men, as you seem to, based on the way you automatically assume the absolute worst of every post by every man and demonize men as soon as you're given any opportunity "Oh nevermind, you lie, too. I never said this, you sure love stretching the truth, huh." I'm not lying, I assumed wrong. You're s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:51 AM
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I already did answer your questions: no, I have never actually met a man who acts like that. I'm not trying to insult you, I've just never met people like this in real life. Hence being confused how you seem to have ONLY encountered men like this in your life. I'm assuming it's from bad real-life interactions that you come up with all these prejudices and assumptions you have
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:44 AM
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I'm talking about your actual life, not social media. It sounds like you're constantly surrounded by awful men, which I assume is why you're so jaded
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:39 AM
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Okay. You need to do a better job selecting the people you allow into your life then, it sounds like. If you're somehow regularly encountering men like this, it must be a problem with your selection process
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:34 AM
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I don't know anyone who does this or thinks like this, so...no Again, these people you are so angry at aren't real. They only exist on the internet. I promise you if you go outside 99.99% of men aren't anything like the way you think they are
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:30 AM
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"men apparently don’t do anything for their female friends unless they want something." As a man who does things for his females friends without wanting anything in return, I am happy to tell you this is yet another lie you have convinced yourself is absolute fact
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:26 AM
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"The weak dying off is EXACTLY how evolution works" Agree! But you're wrong that being able to survive without modern medicine is a weakness. It's simply no longer a weakness because we've evolved past the point where having that ability was a strength, that's all I'm saying
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:47 AM
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"it therefore holds that anyone who has had their life saved by modern medicine should be castrated as in a state of nature they would not be able to reproduce." That's not how evolution works. It always goes forward. We have modern medicine. Which means being able to survive the things modern medicine cures is simply no longer a measure of how fit you are to survive. As a species, we have evolved past needing naturally strong immune systems in order to survive since we have created medicines to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:25 PM
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Just...just...just answer the question? It's a very, very simple question. I just want to know how you're positive this person is red-pilled when nobody said anything at all about pill color except you. I'm confused, are you not able to understand the question? Like I'm really not sure how you're not able to see the extremely obvious point I'm making. I think you're just lying at this point and pretending to be so stupid you can't comprehend you're being asked a question to avoid having to admit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:13 PM
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Jesus are you still not getting it? Wait, or do you actually believe he admitted to being red pilled and forgot that you just made that up? Like have you convinced yourself he actually is red-pilled and that you aren't just assuming that? Like, how are you not understanding that I'm asking why you're assuming this person is red-pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:09 PM
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You're joking, right? Someone disagreed with you and this was your response: "As if a man who relies on pseudoscience and grifters has any idea what women are thinking" Do you see how you automatically assumed he relies on pseudoscience and grifters? You also said: "If a man subscribes to the red pill, his entire ideology was sold to him by grifters who profit by keeping men confused and excited by ragebait." So, if he relies on grifters for his ideology, it means he's red-pilled Ergo... Anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:59 PM
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Okay. Why do you think that the only possible way someone could disagree with you is to be red-pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:31 PM
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Yes. That's why I'm confused by you saying the only way someone could disagree with you if they were tricked by a grifter
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:13 PM
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Explain to me how you're not calling him a grifter, or at the very least equating him to one
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 02:51 PM
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"I have a negative opinion of the red pill and the grifters who take advantage of gullible men. It’s a grift, and the men who subscribe are irrational." You I don't think he needs help. But you getting so upset about someone disagreeing with you that you're making all these baseless accusations shows you really, really, really care what other people think, despite insisting otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:49 PM
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I'm just curious how you've managed to deduce he's a grifter pedaling bullshit. Seems like you just can't stand people disagreeing with you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:42 PM
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Again, where on earth are you getting that he's a grifter from? You're literally making up a person and assuming it's this guy because you can't stand someone disagreeing with you that much
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:20 PM
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Where on earth did he demonstrate that he is "unable to learn about others via observation and interaction?" You're literally upset he won't agree with you, so are making a bunch of totally baseless accusations instead. You clearly care an absolute shit ton what other people think/say about you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:58 PM
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Love how you automatically go to pseudoscience and grifters as soon as someone disagrees with you. It's almost as if you...care a lot what he thinks and were offended he didn't agree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:36 PM
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And men don’t think dating is as easy as you say it is. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:17 PM
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okay. In that case, periods and pregnancy and all the rest is actually easy and women should stop bitching about it. You just get a little bigger, it's really not a big deal I know for sure because I have seen pregnant women and it doesn't look that bad
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:15 PM
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"Are you saying the sisterhood is narcissistic and emotionally manipulative because women aren't enmass pressuring each other to date... you?" That's you saying that, not OP. How is this confusing you? OP did not type those words, you did. Bruh, what, how are you typing something nobody else typed and thinking someone other than you typed it. Are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:25 PM
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"women can smell from a mile off if it's genuine or not" You cannot possibly know if this is true or not. If someone wasn't being genuine and you didn't "smell" it, you can't know that you didn't detect someone not being genuine
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:07 PM
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As a woman, I don't think you can really speak with any knowledge on what is, or is not, hard for men. Really weird you're so insistent, since I seriously doubt you'd appreciate a man doing the same to you, but go off
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:33 AM
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You thought “rough” meant “impossible,” that’s literally all I’m saying. Why on earth do you keep saying these totally unrelated things?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:01 AM
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So you mixed them up and misused them on purpose? I have absolutely no idea what you’re referring to, but I hope whatever it is is justified
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:51 AM
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Okay. Just helping you understand the difference between the word's "rough" and "impossible," since you didn't know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:01 AM
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Okay. Just helping you understand the difference between the word's "rough" and "impossible," since you didn't know
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:38 PM
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Okay. You can keep saying weird unrelated stuff, I'm not trying to argue. Just helping you understand the difference between the word's "rough" and "impossible"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:56 PM
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Really? I've literally never heard that bars/clubs/tinder are the only places people go to meet people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:25 PM
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Okay. I was just letting you know that someone saying something is rough is not them saying it's impossible, as you thought. It's just saying it's hard, basically. Just trying to help you understand since that confused you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:21 PM
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Which men? If anything guys who are usually single are far, far, far less likely to go to bars/clubs because that's not the environment they're comfortable in
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:18 PM
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Why do women think the only place single men try to meet girls is at a bar/strip club or on tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:04 AM
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"rough" does not mean the same thing as "impossible"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:57 AM
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"Feeling bad is unnecessary and you're own fault, it's within your control not to feel like this" *says absolutely nothing about how to achieve this* Thanks, very helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:56 AM
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Still not as easy to stump as the lady walking herself into being a punchline
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:44 AM
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"Do you think that when trying to fuck someone is when to start lying?" nobody said that, stop making stuff up to feel smarter than all the people telling you you're being foolish
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:41 AM
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Lots of people genuinely consider their partner the most beautiful person in the world? That's subjective, so it can't be a lie...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:39 AM
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THAT'S the best comparison you can come up with!?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:32 AM
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I think it's more they expected a certain thing, (just be yourself, that's all that matters) found out it wasn't true, and are now trying to figure out what they should do instead. When being yourself gets you nowhere, makes sense you'd try to figure out some other way, which is to gamify it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:50 PM
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"Dating is very dynamic and has gambling mechanics inherently, so you must learn to stack the chips in your favor depending on your goals" This sounds a lot like treating dating like an RPG???
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:45 AM
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Just evolution, mate, don't worry not everything is a conspiracy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:35 AM
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No, nobody is saying that, stop purposely misunderstanding things to prove some non-existent point...people who do this are almost always awful
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:35 AM
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lol what? Where do you live where you can type that sentence and honestly believe it to be true? I'm so confused. Do you actually think this is the case? If so: how?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:17 AM
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You have no idea what was or was not tried. You’re just assuming it has to be zero since your solution didn’t work. Again: at least try to consider the idea that you’re solution isn’t as great as you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:26 PM
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I don’t know what the solution is. But you can’t tell someone you found the solution to the problem if that solution doesn’t solve their problem and that they’re wrong if they say that solution hasn’t worked for them. It just wasn’t as good of a solution as you think it is, that’s all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:58 PM
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Okay. But that’s different from “I haven’t met anyone worth pursuing” And I agree that there’s nothing wrong with lying about it. Just weird to talk about how you don’t need to lie while continuing to lie over and over again, that’s all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:56 PM
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Right but the urge to do so was there, so you’re not really a demi sexual if you’re desiring sex so soon after meeting someone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:13 PM
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I just mean maybe consider that the “solution” you think is so obvious isn’t as real as you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:31 PM
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You blatantly misinterpreted what he meant by "hitting on women" to make him seem like a moron who just walks up to girls and asks them out when it's so obvious by "hitting on" he meant the process of talking to and getting to know them. In other words, you totally made something up, then with complete confidence told him he's the problem because of this made up scenario you created by purposely misunderstanding him in order to create the illusion of the beautiful circle-jerk of self-sabotage an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:50 PM
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"No, you might have not put ENOUGH effort to pursue them. If you really wanted someone then you would have put enough effort, and it would have succeeded." lol this isn't how the world works, guy. How old are you? "At that point you're moving goalposts. Call it cope, whatever. It's not lying." Huh? You're the one who just keeps telling the same lie over and over insisting that it's true when it's obviously not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:47 PM
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"you are probably shielding your own ego from the real issue, because you know deep down it will take work and vulnerability to address, and that’s hard. Much easier to say it’s everyone else who is wrong and declare yourself doomed and/or give yourself permission to deceive others." If only this was the problem. Would make everything so much easier if I had any idea what I need to change to become worth someone's time And, once again, the assumptions...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:16 PM
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"The MEN may be unrealistic but the female main character seldom is" That's nice, I still can't date book characters. "It’s not a blaming men thing - If what you want is to attract women you need to look at what you can do to make that happen, not what women should change to be attracted to you." lol yes it is. You literally assumed my problems are a result of me not knowing how to be a person and talk to other people. Not to mention assuming I just want a fling or sex, and what's why I can't fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:34 PM
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So...,you're telling me to date a fictional character from a book. I really, really, really hope you can see how this is bad advice "The key is to stop seeing women and yourself as just an amalgamation of traits that are good or bad" Why are you assuming I do this? See this is the problem, it's always the man's fault every. single. time. It can't possibly be bad luck or that dating is hard or anything like that...no...it must be because I'm some inept moron who doesn't know how to talk to people…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:27 PM
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"More importantly, while some people don't care for sex with a virgin (or inexperienced partner), that doesn't apply to all people (or even to most). That's basically like a compositional fallacy, where you take a trait that applies to one and assume it applies to all. It's ignorant, narrow-minded and bigoted, and y'all need to fucking stop doing it." That's a claim you have made with zero evidence to support it besides "trust me bro." Stop, be better than this What evidence do you want? You sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:21 PM
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Starting to feel like you're just trolling Like I've been asking...what evidence do you want? You can't even tell me what evidence I could provide that would convince you you also have provided absolutely zero evidence for any of your claims and have just said "trust me, bro."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:10 PM
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Okay..what other evidence do you want? You do realize you're also just saying "trust me bro," right? How come you can just say "trust me bro," but I have to provide evidence? Like I said, it's a really good way to make it impossible to be wrong, which you seem very determined to be
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:53 AM
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Very helpful, thanks. Do you know any adult woman who are psyched about the idea of dating an inexperienced man? I don't. Every single woman I know would say they don't want to date boys, they want to date men. I have never, ever, once in my life heard an actual, living, breathing human woman say she'd date someone totally inexperienced. I have never seen an actual, living, breathing, human woman react with anything besides disgust at the idea
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:51 AM
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Lol how am I supposed to prove to you I have friends who I have had these conversations with? That is so fucking funny "well I can't be sure your friends are real, therefore nothing you say counts" I mean it's a good way to guarantee it's impossible for you to ever be wrong, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:49 AM
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Huh? Every single one of my woman friends would be repulsed at the idea of being with someone inexperienced into adulthood. They would say they want to date a man, not a boy. This is a conversation I have had many times with many women. On the contrary I have never, ever heard a woman say "awwww an adult virgin? That's so sweet, I would love to be his first" Based on these experiences, I think it's pretty safe to assume the vast, vast majority of adult women don't want to date someone inexperien…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:46 AM
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"The right girl just hasnt come along yet that Ive found the motivation to make her mine." Except if they've ever once tried to pursue a girl, this becomes a lie. And obviously failing to get a girl requires pursuing one....so...it's still just a lie. I don't know the people you interact with, but this also ignores that no actual, real, living human woman will believe this...at least none of the ones I've ever met
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:42 AM
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lol wut? If the truth is that he's been trying to get laid but no girl wants him, coming up with a different explanation is...lying
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:34 AM
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To love and be loved back
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:31 AM
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I really doubt you're demi-sexual if you felt comfortable fucking someone after one date
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:31 AM
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"How do you know it’s the vast, vast majority?" Because I go outside and talk to women "And, so what? Having sex with those sorts of women is against what’s objectively necessary for your happiness." What does this mean? You have no idea what's objectively necessary for my happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:28 AM
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Right, in other words he's fucked and should lie
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:21 AM
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The vast, vast majority, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:20 AM
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You're forgetting that telling the truth is a sure-fire way to never see that person again AND not get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:18 AM
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"while some people don't care for sex with a virgin (or inexperienced partner), that doesn't apply to all people (or even to most)" Dawg go outside, you'll see it's the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:14 AM
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What if they're just a good person who for reasons they can't figure out have never had any luck?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:11 AM
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"Two, you should value the woman you’re intending to sleep with much more than an employer with unreasonable hiring requirements" Why? When that's how they view the men they sleep with?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:06 AM
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"go on that journey of discovery together with someone who’s excited to join you" This person does not exist
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:04 AM
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nvm you're trolling, I get it now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:52 AM
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How on earth is not revealing you're inexperienced "fucking someone over"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:51 AM
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How determined are you to tear people down that you're so blatantly misinterpreting what he means?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:43 AM
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Almost nobody thinks that, chill out. Stop demonizing a group of people because of the actions of a few theoretical individuals who aren't even present in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:42 AM
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"Bro is really pretending that women don't complain about being hit on at the gym, or that workplace sexual harassment laws and policies don't exist." Bro is somehow not getting that bro is saying he doesn't want to hit on girls at the gym or workplace exactly because he doesn't want to come off as harassing anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:39 AM
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"So many dudes want a solution, but the only acceptable solution is a magic potion that makes them irresistible" Have you considered that maybe your solution isn't actually a solution, which is why it's not being accepted as a solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:30 AM
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That's the joke, mate...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:28 AM
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"Being single as a virgin is better" Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Going your entire life being told you're unworthy of anyone's time or attention and a bad person for not accepting that is far more damaging than being loved and losing it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:40 PM
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Right, but he wasn't calling your life bullshit. He was calling you saying every single man is single because he doesn't know how to expect the right things and be a person worthy of love bullshit. Which it was. "You insulted me when I never once insulted you," You did, when you said that men who are single only have themselves to blame for being such terrible people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:38 PM
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"I mean you can be single as a virgin for years to begin with" Except the longer you're single the worse it becomes, and the moment you get into a relationship and find you aren't as unlovable as you thought it relieves that anxiety (my guess is the reason you think being single again after a relationship is better is because once you have proof you're not impossible to love, being single is much more tolerable), which is what you get more of the longer you're single, so it still doesn't really …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:50 PM
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"So in my opinion and personal experience it's better to be single as a virgin without experience than be single after break up." I don't get why people make this comparison. Unless you have experienced both, you really have no idea which is better. And it's obviously impossible to experience both. So this is a totally meaningless thing to say
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:40 PM
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"It's more REAL when you know from first hand experience." Well duh, but that doesn't mean you can't miss what you've never had
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:28 PM
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"I would say the opposite, you can't miss what you never had" I mean...this is a thing people like to say as if saying it makes it fact...but it's still really, really far away from being true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:20 PM
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"What? My first interaction with that user was him falsely accusing me of being a liar as rudely as he could. " But that's not even what happened. I don't know how you think that's what happened. It's remarkable you were somehow able to come to that conclusion. Please don't forget to look both ways before crossing the street "And since you’re treating me like an idiot and insulting me in your other comment to me, even though I have never interacted with you or insulted you before… I think you sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:06 PM
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Okay. I mean maybe men do understate how much money matters, but that's not even close to saying they don't care at all and are totally indifferent about it, the way women do about men's looks I've never heard a man claim income/career is totally irrelevant and won't matter as long as you d x, y, and z instead, like women do with men when it comes to looks. Like it's just not close to how pervasive it is with women, even if men do the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:03 PM
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"Not in real life I haven’t." right, because 99% of men don't think this. You can't say that saying a woman's career matters to him goes against social convention when it's only 1% of people who would disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:42 PM
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Jesus christ he was saying it's bullshit that the men in this thread are just bad people who don't know how to date properly and that's why they're single, not that you married a criminal. Are you really that fucking stupid? Like how did you not get that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:36 PM
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"But you are insulting my husband for no fucking reason" I'd recommend not insulting people first with absolutely no basis if you don't want people to insult you. Generally, humans who are insulted and treated like they're idiots are far more likely to get upset and say something insulting back than humans who aren't insulted or treated like idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:33 PM
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You...just aren't getting it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:12 AM
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lol where on earth are you finding men claiming they don't care about what a woman's career is? I really just don't believe you here. I've never once met a guy who says he couldn't care less what a potential girlfriend does for work, like....ever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:05 AM
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