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–	Men need to come up with an alternative to marriage. Don’t get married. LAT - living apart together, is the ideal. Never marry or live with a woman, that is what potentially exposes you to liability and also lets women get complacent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 12:47 PM
2	Passport bros is the only real solution for average and below average men. And men and women should agree with it The only problem I have with it is it crushes on the average brown dudes in those locations, who can’t compete with a rich in comparison western bro who can wisk a local girl to the developed world. Sad for them, and holy hell would it infuriate me if that happened to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 07:20 PM
7	Is female narcissism much more common than statistics say? Females are narcissistic by their nature. They are unable to look beyond their own needs and wants except for some of them when they have kids - and then it’s for those kids not for the father. This is why you have to absolutely have frame and control frame if you are with one.	/r/MensRights	07/07/26 06:40 PM
1	Men aren't lonely and single because they're toxic, violent and sexist; they're lonely and single because they're unattractive, broke and awkward This. Excellent take. That is my experience as well. The women that are happy solo aren’t great dating partners and don’t bring much feminine joy to a relationship. What she is basically showing you is she is looks at men only in terms of what they do for her, not in terms of what she can do for him, and what they can have together.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 02:54 PM
–	Women dislike weak and shy guys more than violent misogynists and I'll die on that hill Expand it further. Look at the amount of female attention male violent killers get in jails, even the ones that killed women. Look at the amount of women that will hook up with drug dealers and gangsters. Strength and the ability to commit violence is attractive in men as a baseline. Even for men, would you want your buddy to throw down alongside you if you got in a bad situation, or for him to cut and run? Gentleness, kindness only work when it’s a choice by a man, not his only option because h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 02:49 PM
6	I really hate how the term ‘incel’ has been hijacked by feminists and extremists Agreed. What most angers me is that reality is an incel is a man who accepts the decisions of others and societal law. He isn’t forcing himself on anyone, he isn’t using his superior strength to take. Instead of respecting and appreciating his choice to be lawful, they ridicule him.	/r/MensRights	25/06/26 03:40 PM
–	Expecting Men to Pay for First Dates Is Entitlement As long as a woman wants a relationship, she will need to prove she wants to contribute.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 05:07 PM
–	Women are larping loneliness. You missed the main point of his argument. Women can easily get a decent average guy but they want more. They can’t get more, and call that loneliness. Many men would happily take the decent average girl. Hell most of us guys know we are going to date down, not even an equal thanks to female hypergamy, and most of us accept that. Not because we are better, but because that’s just being realistic in today’s world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 01:09 AM
5	The Selectors Trying to Minimize the Privilege of Being the Selectors Not just that, they then couch what happened in a way to demonize the man and hold themselves as the victim. Used for sex. Really? So women don’t like sex? You didn’t sleep with him out of desire to make him yours? He didn’t use you. You took your shot trying to keep him and it didn’t work out for you. Woman up and admit it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 07:58 PM
4	My office door is open when I speak to a woman, and there is a third person present. This is not negotiable. Any sensitive matters may be communicated to me through email or over the telephone. Yup. Just had a female law clerk start as my direct report this summer. I don’t close the door when I meet with her. Never will.	/r/MensRights	30/05/26 08:22 PM
6	If you don't disclose what you want sexually before commitment, you have no one to blame but yourself if the woman doesn't like it. Agreed. You can’t expect your mate to simply do what you want out of love. When I know I like a woman I have a sex talk and lay out what I want and expect, and ask her the same. A couple of times we weren’t on the same page. So be it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 05:06 PM
1	Men aging like fine wine is mostly a myth You stated the exact qualifier the red pill attaches to the possibility of men aging like fine wine. No one is saying men magically get better with age. Men can age very well and even gain attraction with hard work and success. It’s not a myth, it’s a result of discipline and hard work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 03:23 AM
1	Why do young women hate men? \| UK Politics \| The New Statesman Outstanding summary.	/r/MensRights	10/05/26 05:06 AM
–	Why do men complain about women choosing assholes but simultaneously shame men who are simps and treat women with kindness? We are complaining about the top and bottom of the males. Both make things harder for the average men in the middle as they both pursue their sexual strategies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/26 05:15 PM
0	Being wanted is better than being needed Being needed endures. While wanted is ideal, it’s a passing thing subject to the emotional reaction of women. You can be wanted now and considered undesirable due to an illness, an accident, or the march of time. It also rewards the strengths of the average man - his ability to provide, his willingness to commit to one woman. It’s a known quantity and men can see how well they stack up against their peers. That need made women want to keep a man happy and she appreciated that without him, life w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/26 04:09 PM
22	"Young women feel a lot more negatively towards young men than the other way around" Amen. Got divorced a couple years ago and had to write a six figure check to her. Not doing it again. Everytime I think about getting another relationship I think back to how bad most of mine were and stop myself. Staying single as a man is life on easy mode. Invest, spend only on what I want, no one trying to tell me how I need to support them more. It’s not worth it. Go ahead and casually date, just no marriage, no habitation.	/r/MensRights	16/04/26 02:38 AM
4	Young women (18-24) dont want older men 35+ Young women want older men for their resources and status. It has always been that way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 02:35 PM
1	Women are the ones red pilling men They are a symptom, not the disease. All content creators are looking for money and views, and sadly that means many of them act extreme, but that does not negate the underlying issues which lead men into their space.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 08:53 PM
–	Women are the ones red pilling men I’ve said it repeatedly, red pilled men are made by their interactions with women. I was a very blue pilled guy who saw relationships fall apart despite doing everything today’s feminists claim they want, and it red pilled me. When I become red pilled my relationship with women fundamentally changed and became great. As gyno-centric as the world is now, there is no other basis for the red pill. It’s not taught anywhere in the mainstream. It is opposite of what almost every woman claims they want…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 05:45 PM
2	Man gets called fragile for posting about a person calling him rude for no reason. Exactly. They think men are dumb brutes and always want to bang so it’s their insecurity over their attractiveness that sets them off when a man has boundaries. They want every man to be ready at a moment to jump on them and be considered irresistible. Hell, my ex would go crazy on me - hit me, slur me, insult me and then expect me to want to sleep with her that night.	/r/MensRights	31/03/26 11:41 PM
2	How come whenever men mention being s*xually assaulted, people always have to bring up that women are "assaulted more often" and try to downplay mens assaults instead of just being supportive? Well said. When women say they want communication what I’ve found is they really just want us to listen to them. My last ex pushed this narrative and loved to be the center of attention during the discussions but got tired really fast when I talked about my wants and needs.	/r/MensRights	27/03/26 04:55 PM
1	Men here misinterpret "personality matter" and overlook social skills. Most people meet through OLD. It’s impossible to display social skills through a phone. So yes you are right but it’s irrelevant when the charming guy can’t get actual face time to do his thing. What almost always works on women via a phone is being attractive. Then women will give you the chance to meet and pretty much excuse your lack of game if you are tall, handsome and ideally white.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 04:11 PM
4	Women are more violent than we think. And men less so Yup. My ex at the end of our relationship was hitting me, spitting on me and slapping me. She would taunt me to call the cops since she was a white blonde and I am not. She knew damn well I’d be the one walked out. Men don’t report because it’s not going to help us in most cases while women know they will get all the benefits of calling the police.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 10:55 PM
1	average Men Don't have almost any advantages Nope. She came back and had seniority over newer hires since start date controls so she took the cushy and easy slot which people liked taking to rest and recover. Did you not understand her job was protected? She sacrificed my time and the time of my colleagues. She lost nothing. She sacrificed nothing and of course had a husband at home earning so she could coast. Stop acting like breeding is some noble sacrifice. We are an overpopulated species we don’t need everyone having kids. It’s a selfi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 02:15 PM
0	average Men Don't have almost any advantages It is bull that women can get pregnant and leave a job for several months and it’s protected and held in reserve for them. I had a female attorney do that to my office, pregnant immediately after she got hired and left for months on maternal leave when she had her kid. Then came back and did it again for another kid. We were short staffed for that time because we couldn’t fill her spot. That meant in an office with crushing volume we were a person short, so everyone else had to work harder to co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 02:01 PM
4	Are Feminists Right in Seeking Equal Treatment With Men? It’s never been about equality. It’s about them wanting all their traditional benefits to remain in place, and then equality in the things where men used to dominate or had more influence, thus allowing to achieve supremacy. Thats why you don’t see women giving up any of their traditional benefits or advantages. None of them are demanding to be included in selective service. None of them are demanding wedding be about equal attention to the groom and stop making the bride the focus - but they su…	/r/MensRights	18/03/26 04:22 PM
1	Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain about Yup. Men simping is what makes women entitled. It’s our damn fault and it frustrates me to no end, and that’s why all men need to learn about the red pill and understand its basic tenants because so many of them think it’s the right thing to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 03:16 PM
4	How to live in this misandric world? Live for yourself. Don’t fall for the fallacy of a wife and kids. Get a job you like, make some friends, get some hobbies and don’t let yourself get used. It is easy to live a nice life when you aren’t finding some fat and frumpy wife and bratty kids.	/r/MensRights	12/03/26 11:16 PM
7	Casual sex benifits men more than women Then why are women engaging in it to such a high degree? Their superior emotional intelligence should allow them to decide whether to engage in sex only within the context of a serious relationship which is what I hear them all say they want. It’s almost as if they enjoy many benefits from it that extend beyond the act. Almost like the attention and validation are also valuable to them. Maybe even use sex to try to get a man out of their league to commit to them. No, that’s crazy talk, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 08:55 PM
15	Women claim to be strong and independent but as I’m dating again most want a man to lead, protect, be chivalrous, and they hold men to stereotypes they claim to hate. Plus, anytime a female says that it’s invariably about how it will benefit them. You won’t hear a woman say a real man won’t raise another man’s kids. Or a real man will not let a woman violate his boundaries.	/r/MensRights	11/03/26 10:27 PM
11	Women claim to be strong and independent but as I’m dating again most want a man to lead, protect, be chivalrous, and they hold men to stereotypes they claim to hate. If it benefits them, they want it. That is how they operate.	/r/MensRights	11/03/26 10:26 PM
13	Men can’t really claim to know “the truth” about female attraction Yes, but your feelings on what you want compared to your feelings which lead you to ‘I never normally do this’ are nowhere near the same and in fact almost diametrically opposed. That is the key.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 05:34 PM
16	Men can’t really claim to know “the truth” about female attraction Is this another feminist trying to claim women are complex and unknowable? Facts and outcomes matter and they trump any of your feelings and whether mars is in retrograde. There are traits in men which are universally successful with women. That crosses race, region and religion. Those traits are rarely if ever admitted by women to be as important as they are. Then there are traits in men that are occasionally successful, and often rely on additional unpleasant factors or conditions. Those are t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 03:52 PM
3	Men need to have higher standards. Yup. They only take what we give and I don’t blame them for being so entitled when so many men simp. All you can do is establish clear boundaries for yourself and stick to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 08:35 PM
11	Feminists are dishonest about equality. Yup it’s always the same - no one should be drafted, or it’s drafting men to stop other men so it’s fine.	/r/MensRights	02/03/26 02:48 PM
9	Is the RedPill truly something that helps men or is it just a form of bait? Most red pilled men are made. Made through their actual life experiences when the blue pill mindset blows up in their face. So tell me how that is bait? No one wants the red pill to be reality. The blue pilled world is comforting and lovely - you can earn her affection with sacrifice, stability, hard work, and putting her first. It just isn’t our world and better to know the sobering truth than be victimized as a man by predatory women.	/r/MensRights	01/03/26 09:00 PM
0	How women can find men that prioritize connection above sex Good luck with your boyfriend, glad you found someone you are happy with. So when you approached the guys, it was to date and have a relationship and then hope sex was good, or was it for a hookup you hoped might turn into more? I guess that would affect how you approach in my mind and the outcome. As an average looking guy, I would be skeptical if a girl approached me aggressively to hookup.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/26 03:58 AM
2	How women can find men that prioritize connection above sex Is your flair a joke or factual, because that seems to clash with seeking connection over sex which is what the OP is discussing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/26 03:32 AM
1	If a man is expected to give his life to protect his wife and children, why can't the same be expected of the wife? Well said. I admit it’s sexist but hell considering women won’t do the same for us, but a man takes care of his own and makes the sacrifice. This rule also seem to apply to spiders in the house, lol.	/r/MensRights	27/02/26 12:17 AM
17	How should women “take accountability”? As simple as admitting to your base and selfish desires. Man up, so to speak. Stop saying you want X and then chasing and being with Y. An example of this I found out an ex had an affair with a married man. She worked with him and knew he was married. When I asked her why she slept with him she responded he doesn’t respect women. So rather than admit she wanted him, or was lonely and used him for attention she immediately tried to blame that dude and take no accountability for her part.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/26 12:12 AM
12	If TRP wasn’t true, there wouldn’t be such immediate resistance to and censorship of it The red pill subreddit is quarantined and until recently was not even searchable on the mobile Reddit app, while places like red pilled women are not restricted. Why? In addition, Making red pilled adjacent comments in many forums like deadbedrooms gets you banned. The hostility is in part because feminists can’t handle anyone suggesting women aren’t wonderful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/26 03:03 AM
31	My fiance called me unromantic for wanting a prenup - why is protecting myself controversial? Don’t be a fool. Please think this through. The only thing marriage does is allows her to vest in your resources because she is the lesser earner. There are no guarantees that benefit you. The majority of divorces are filed by women. Ask yourself why, when marriage offers them so much security. It’s because in modern marriage they can divorce and the state makes sure your resources are transferred. I did what you did. Married a woman making about half what I did with no assets compared to me. I …	/r/MensRights	19/02/26 11:47 PM
–	Dating older men (like 10 plus years older) is simply a bad deal for most women Women typically date older men for their money and status. That’s the deal, you benefit from an affluent guy, and you are there for him when he gets older. I know a few couples with a big age gap and in every single one the guys makes several times more than her, and these guys spoil them. In every single relationship her life massively improved upon marriage and when dating him. The most extreme example I know she is 20 years younger. She makes only 80k a year in a support job, and her husband …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/26 12:53 AM
2	''We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females.'' That makes sense, didn’t think about that.	/r/BlackPillScience	07/01/26 12:07 PM
2	''We found that ratings of attractiveness were around 1000 times more sensitive to salary for females rating males, compared to males rating females.'' While I agree with this, why then are so many hallmark movies about the girl meeting the country boy who isn’t rich and leaving the rich city boy behind? I mean they are always super attractive so it’s never a physical downgrade but usually it is an income reduction.	/r/BlackPillScience	07/01/26 02:21 AM
4	Women should just cut off any access to intamcy till they get the result they want. The only thing stupid is a feminist like you thinking a woman trying to lock down a guy out of her league is noble.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 08:38 PM
3	Should men be openly critical of women who are bad or boring in bed ? If I want to maintain a relationship with her then yes, I discuss it and tell her what I want and expect, and ask her the same. If we aren’t on the same page, then move on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 02:57 PM
10	Women should just cut off any access to intamcy till they get the result they want. Women want sex too, they just refuse to acknowledge it. There is a reason handsome douchebags get women. No woman gets used for sex. They have self hoping to lock down that guy or to have fun. Stop trying to paint women as sweet little things hoping to find a decent man to help raise a family. That is not reality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/25 02:56 PM
4	Men have standards by default and criticize women for doing same thing All women can control their age as it applies to the sexual marketplace for mate selection. They can control it for several years and if they are smart they don’t squander it. Is that clear enough for you? Every single woman gets the power to be young and at the height of her sexual attractiveness and look for a man to marry. So it’s reasonable to seek in the opposite sex, a trait all of them get. Every single one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/25 07:27 PM
14	Men have standards by default and criticize women for doing same thing Every single woman gets to be young. So don’t squander it. Does every man get to be tall?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/25 06:39 PM
13	Men have standards by default and criticize women for doing same thing And over standards which the opposite sex has no ability to modify or control. Men can’t get tall. Women can lose weight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/25 06:05 PM
3	If women were not into men, there wouldn't be so many women being side chicks and humiliating themselves for a man Agreed, all the while they scream misogyny and the patriarchy make life unfair for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/25 06:10 AM
2	What I think people get wrong about whether or not men care about your career Do you spend more of your money on your husband than on yourself. That is the standard I reference, the bonus is just one small part of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 08:09 PM
5	What I think people get wrong about whether or not men care about your career You are confusing cause and effect. For men traditionally being successful was the key to getting women which sadly powers most men forward. We are wired that way and haven’t learned to step away from that modality. Where do you think that money gets spent when these successful men are with a woman? You think rich men continue to blow money on themselves and hand out scraps to their wives and girlfriends? No, that income stream gets spent on her. I’m successful and know many successful men. Ever…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 05:38 PM
-1	What I think people get wrong about whether or not men care about your career Right. So men get excited when a friend tells them about an available rich doctor woman the way women get happy about an available rich doctor man? The money is tied to success and status and all women want a successful man with status if possible. If ‘not be financially responsible for’ was actually the standard then any man with a real job would satisfy that requirement. So tell me why women poo poo men in the trades, bus drivers and other solid jobs with great benefits but no status?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 05:31 PM
-1	What I think people get wrong about whether or not men care about your career They have the instinct to marry men who can afford to provide, hence the high divorce rate initiated mostly by women because after breeding they can leave with the state enforcing their continued access to the provider resources. Their instinct and preferences between men to marry and to fornicate unfortunately wildly differs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/25 05:26 PM
1	I am tired of women over stepping this damn boundary Go to the principal since teacher is not doing anything. Then to the police if they do not stop and punish her.	/r/MensRights	13/12/25 06:06 AM
1	Women don't want the end goal of feminism. Bonnie Blue is the living proof. And that’s what you feminist regularly do. You take what chads do and generalize that to all men. It’s	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/25 07:59 PM
13	What About Self-Defense? Equal rights, equal lefts.	/r/MensRights	09/12/25 05:33 PM
13	As a high-earner, is my apprehension about marriage rational, or am I being excessively paranoid? You are correct, all of your analysis is correct. FYI I am a divorced attorney and had to cut a six figure check to my ex and now that I have ten times what I had then, zero chance of marrying again. Like you said, you could end up paying several hundred thousand to a woman even if she cheats, was terrible, didn’t contribute, or even abused you. The system is set up to favor the lesser earner. Your only defense here is to marry someone who makes equal to you, and that is brutally hard if you don…	/r/MensRights	08/12/25 01:24 AM
2	Even if a research proved tomorrow that women's standards are 110% delusional they are still entitled to it And as the choosers you have 100% the ability to do that from the dozens of decent men that offered exactly that, but for some reason you and yours passed on them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/25 12:43 AM
11	Asking Men Why They're Not Approaching Women Anymore Exactly. They want to retain all their traditional benefits, but not take on modern responsibilities.	/r/MensRights	07/12/25 05:46 AM
5	Scott Gallaway on Oprah. Anyone see this? Thoughts? It’s Oprah. That means it’s anti male.	/r/MensRights	07/12/25 05:44 AM
4	Why does it feel like it's impossible for men to be seen as the "good gender" The key to me is feminist are stuck in the 1850s and refuse to accept the advances and equality they now have. I see this all the time and it’s frustrating. So to them women have barely gotten the right to vote and just recently got the chance to work. It’s this ludicrous refusal to accept how things are now because they want to blame men for any shortcomings.	/r/MensRights	06/12/25 06:34 PM
3	Women Behaving in Toxic ways There is a difference between contributing constructively, which you don’t, and being quick to essentially defend your sex and blame the guy while disparaging any comment that isn’t the women-are-wonderful. You responded to a well thought out and substantive post with zero acknowledgment or admission there may be some truth to it, and offering some counterpoints or qualifications in an attempt to seek some more nuance. Instead you just dismissed it - which is exactly why this subreddit exists - …	/r/MensRights	04/12/25 10:21 PM
4	Women Behaving in Toxic ways Why are you in this subreddit? Aren’t there enough girl boss subreddits for you to spend your time? You don’t contribute to the conversation here other than tell guys they are wrong.	/r/MensRights	04/12/25 08:33 PM
14	The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbands Your feelings don’t matter in the face of statistics. Lesbians divorce at the highest rates among married couples. Homosexual male marriage has the lowest rate. You still say women carrying emotional burdens and household work, as women routinely claim as reasons for divorcing men. Neither of those issues are present in a lesbian relationship, yet the divorce rate is highest. If what you claimed was true, lesbians would have the lowest divorce rate and homosexual males the highest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/25 06:56 PM
5	Claiming "Sex isn't the only thing men care about" only works when men show they have other priorities. This is your classic blue pilled woman take. Sex is not just the penetrative act in terms of its importance. It’s the interest, the desire, the fun. Without all those things it’s just a friendship. All those things speak to being desired as a man and are an important part of sex. Women who marry providers for their resources are quick to dismiss it as just sex because they don’t want to topic to have any legitimacy. If you actually understood how important the other aspects are you’d be left wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/25 05:48 PM
5	The lesbian divorce rate debunks a lot of the complaints wives have about their husbands Women claim to have greater emotional intelligence, claim to develop faster, claim to have far better communication skills and that they bear the bulk of emotional burdens in straight relationships. Of course they are far more giving in bed according to you blue pillers to boot. Stop absolving women of responsibility. All the above claimed things should mean lesbian relationships should be superior since you don’t have the ‘typical’ male shortcomings present. So all that superior emotional and c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/25 05:43 PM
3	FULLY destigmatising sex work is a net positive for men but bad for certain feminist narratives No. That’s the feminist nonsense that gets pushed. Most women who do sex work do it because it’s easy or great money, or they enjoy it. This isn’t a world where woman have no ability to earn legitimately. McDonald’s is always hiring. There are always basic jobs out there but they don’t pay what selling your body does for a decent looking woman. Anyone can get college loans and go learn to earn a living wage. Why don’t you see as many boys going into sex work? Because they can’t make money doing …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/25 03:59 AM
3	Akaash Singh (or any rich guy) losing "half his wealth" in divorce Not quite. I said if all his assets were generated and grew during the marriage then yes she will get half which is usually the case with young couples. OP asked About akash who I don’t know but seems young. So maybe all his success occurred during marriage so it’s all marital. If you marry and start working, and you build say 100k of retirement and savings, all of that is marital and split. Even if she didn’t contribute a penny. If he is older and already established then it won’t be half but s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/25 05:12 AM
8	Akaash Singh (or any rich guy) losing "half his wealth" in divorce No. No fault divorce does not care. It’s one of the many reasons marriage is bad for men - all the vows men make to care and provide are enforced, none of the vows women make to love and cherish are enforced. Some states did look at things like infidelity for child custody purposes, but they are the exception to the general no fault divorce rule.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/25 04:59 AM
1	Akaash Singh (or any rich guy) losing "half his wealth" in divorce She is taking half. Half of the marital asset appreciation during the marriage and she didn’t work, wasn’t a SAHM. In his case since they are young it might be half of what he has, since he might not have had much when he got married. Typically most of the wealth gets generating during the marriage if you marry young. If you have substantial investments or a home, the growth in those will get split and be substantive. True it’s not usually half but it’s an easy win for a female that marries up f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/25 02:46 AM
7	The disillusioned men: Who are they and what do they want? Respect. Thats what we want. Respect for our sacrifices. Respect for what we are and what we do. Respect for our differences and to stop calling us defective or abusive when we don’t act and talk like women.	/r/MensRights	25/11/25 07:55 PM
10	Its not “Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks” for women to change their priorities over time. Because blue pilled guys are taught they need to do more. If she isn’t gushing over him it’s because he is not making her feel loved and safe enough to blossom. So do things like renew vows at the 3 year mark. That will show her your devotion and as emotionally mature as women are, she will understand and respond to his loyalty and devotion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/25 05:38 PM
21	Over the past several months, I have noticed r/feminism getting more fucked up The trend has been for women to blame their failures on men, the fact they aren’t CEO and making 200k+ on the patriarchy. Thats what I see over and over. Denied a promotion can’t be because there were better candidates, it’s because the old boys club. So these feminists who grew up thinking in college they were the future ruling class are running into reality and are extremely bitter about it.	/r/MensRights	21/11/25 04:41 PM
2	Men: Don’t get married Because women marry up most of the time, and thus his greater assets are exposed to harvesting because any appreciation in them during the marriage even if she didn’t contribute, are treated as a marital asset. It isn’t what she brings in, it’s how the total pie increases regardless of whether she contributed. For example - I’m divorced. I wrote a six figure check to my ex despite the fact she didn’t pay a penny on the mortgage nor a penny of the down payment for the house. The court looked at t…	/r/MensRights	18/11/25 08:40 PM
3	Men: Don’t get married Of course. That’s why I said have the kids without marriage. You will pay child support if she is primary but she won’t get to take from you out of your assets when she files, and women file the majority of divorces. Child support and what she gets from marital assets if you marry are separate buckets. She wanted the kids, that’s how it works.	/r/MensRights	18/11/25 08:07 PM
18	Men are delusional about how many bad men are out there I’ve stopped and changed a woman’s flat tire. I’ve offered to carry heavy boxes for women up stairs. I’ve given women my umbrella when it’s raining so they don’t get wet. Have you done any of those things for a man?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/25 01:07 AM
15	Men: Don’t get married Nope. Even then, nope. You can have kids outside of wedlock. Vetting? Ya women can and will play the long game to get married and change, or hit their epiphany phase and change, etc. The only real security in modern times is if she makes as much as you or more. Then she can’t take advantage financially or could even be the one that will suffer. Sad but that’s your best bet.	/r/MensRights	17/11/25 09:17 PM
10	You ever get tired of being told you have it easy cause you're a man? I’ll never forget an argument I had with a crappy abusive ex. I made twice as much as her. I have twice the education, far harder field, and worked about 30% more hours than her. Meanwhile she was in a safe small job and hadn’t moved in 9 years. She didn’t try for promotions because she said it wasn’t much more money for too much work. She stayed in that job because it was easy while I moved every few years chasing promotions. Got into an argument because even though I paid 100% the mortgage, 80…	/r/MensRights	12/11/25 07:44 PM
2	Do men genuinely want to return to traditional gender roles ? Outstanding responses already provided by others but essentially traditional expectations were never removed from men, only from women. So why not yearn for a time when average men had clear roles they could fill and for which they were necessary and appreciated? Your sexism is showing by saying ‘women stay home in the kitchen’ so dismissively. The home and family was the whole point of all the toil. The resources obtained outside the home were used for that home. To dismiss it as being in the k…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/25 07:48 PM
10	Why Your Son Is Right Wing Boom goes the dynamite. Men need to put themselves first and take care of themselves, be not a beast of burden to anyone unless by choice.	/r/MensRights	11/11/25 02:48 AM
11	Men are shallow as well That’s never been debated. Of course men want attractive women. After looks and femininity, male standards are far less demanding. Women are as shallow as men when it comes to looks and far more shallow when it comes to money and status. Given two equal women, id take the office secretary over a lawyer or doctor (and i am a successful lawyer) for several reasons. How many women would do that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/25 01:50 AM
–	Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrifice The top tier ones can, and that’s the price women pay for trying to be with one. In those cases the women better bring her A game and keep up and do her best to remain his best option, which is the same advice the red pill gives men for keeping a woman. That said it’s a small portion of men that have that ability, let alone the willingness to execute. Women are worse in their hypergamy and most of them have far more options to exercise it. It’s a far harder thing for a man to keep a woman happy …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/25 02:14 AM
–	older women are easier to manipulate than younger women Women constantly claim to have more emotional intelligence than men. They claim they are better communicators. They claim they develop sooner. They claim they are far deeper in what they look for in a man, not superficial like men, and then claim their have vaunted female intuition. No man is fooling them. How can someone with vastly inferior communication and emotional skills game you? Truth is they want the rush like a druggie and you see the proof in they keep chasing those guys until they ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/25 04:51 PM
9	Dating a much younger woman and going out in public, we get a ton of "opinions" from older women If you looked half as good as her, you’d get a man like me too. To hell with placating a feminist who is offering unsolicited opinions.	/r/MensRights	11/10/25 04:15 PM
95	“For women, the problem is particularly acute. Tens of thousands of men have died.” — The New York Times article about the dating scene in Ukraine (2024) This all damn day. The ultimate exhibition of how utterly selfish feminism is.	/r/MensRights	11/10/25 01:41 AM
5	Marriage is just a way to give women a sense of security by holding a man’s assets at gunpoint. Yup. There is no benefit to marriage for a Man unless she makes more than you, and women overwhelmingly marry up in terms of income. You see that played out when good men talk about their marriages. Women want to breed and secure resources, that’s why the average age of female marriage now is when they are hitting the wall. Don’t marry. Don’t cohabitate. Date, make them work hard to earn your attention. Don’t simp, and leave them when their misandry and entitlement starts to show. The happiest I…	/r/MensRights	07/10/25 07:24 PM
3	why do women lie about rape? Because they use it as a tool to gain something. Want an extreme example? I am keeping this vague on purpose, but I used to be in a remote place where if a female claimed rape she was given a free plane ticket to a large city to have the rape kit processed - we couldn’t do them where I was. We finally got the ability to process rapes locally. When we did, the number of rapes reported plummeted. It was the free ticket and chance to load up on stuff not available locally that was the real reason. …	/r/MensRights	05/10/25 04:23 PM
1	TV Shows with no misandy in them? Like I said, Frasier is solid as its main characters are men, white collar fancy silliness it’s a great older show. After that hard. Tires is a comedy series about an auto shop, it’s pretty even keeled as it’s mainly male cast. Workaholics is a guy combo that do silly stuff. American dad is great - they call out the wife when she gets over the top. Most others slip some or a lot of misandry into the mix.	/r/MensRights	04/10/25 02:03 PM
1	TV Shows with no misandy in them? None that I can recall from modern times. Some like Frasier are fun and free of it since it’s focused on a man’s life (Frasier) but everything these days follows the sitcom formula of stupid fat husband married to hot smart wife who constantly berates his incompetence. Comedies are even worse because it’s only okay to make fun of the men, never the women. One example is parks and recs. They continually make fun of big fat Gerry/Jerry while big fat Donna - not a single fat joke. She is never show…	/r/MensRights	03/10/25 08:39 PM
40	'The doctor told me it was a boy. I cried for days': Middle class mothers with 'gender disappointment' will baffle anyone who has longed for a healthy baby - but they insist you shouldn't judge their 'grief' over having sons Problem is also the simp that married her. We need to stop being so damned desperate for these low quality women and vet the hell out of them.	/r/MensRights	03/10/25 05:41 PM
182	"Men want sex women want love" my girlfriend said Standard sexist tripe modern women spew. You can either do the work to break her sexists opinions apart, or just walk away, but any women who spews this wouldn’t be worth having as a girlfriend.	/r/MensRights	03/10/25 04:25 PM
0	If women don’t dress provocatively for men, what do they do it for? It’s a gaze with sexual interest, which is what they are trying to get out of me. That’s the male gaze that is supposedly so distasteful, isn’t it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/25 12:42 AM
1	If women don’t dress provocatively for men, what do they do it for? I see it as interfering with my quiet enjoyment, like someone playing their music loud to force attention, but you are right, I can just go about my day. I just don’t like that feeling of a woman thinking she can get me if she wants by just showing some skin - that sexist mindset all men are dogs and just show a boob and they become slobbering fools. Unfortunately, it must work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/25 12:40 AM
1	If women don’t dress provocatively for men, what do they do it for? I appreciate the polite discourse. I don’t stare but I can tell when a woman is trying to get my attention, and I know it’s not because she wants me - it’s wanting to flaunt and peacock and it offends me. Hard for a man to do it, but what if a super built guy was constantly flexing and carrying on near you in an effort to get you to look, only to then roll his eyes when you do. Wouldn’t that be frustrating?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/25 09:07 PM
-1	If women don’t dress provocatively for men, what do they do it for? Thing is we don’t exist in a vacuum. I get frustrated when women dress half naked, and then are constantly looking at me to see if I respond. It’s obvious they just want the attention, and that violates my personal space so to speak, as I now have to be careful where I look. Feminists supposedly wanted to be free of the male gaze, yet so many women are still actively trying to draw my attention and chase the male gaze.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/25 07:27 PM
-1	If women don’t dress provocatively for men, what do they do it for? This thread is about dressing provocatively. That’s the issue. If you want to wear a lovingly knitted shawl, that’s great - but we aren’t talking about that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/25 07:20 PM
-1	If women don’t dress provocatively for men, what do they do it for? Looking nice does not have to mean being half naked. Feeling pretty is a euphemism for wanting attention. You should be asking yourself why you feel the need to get attention without trying your blame someone or something else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/25 06:54 PM
-5	Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch? Date? Sure. Wouldn’t have kids with someone of that age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/25 01:15 AM
11	A man’s ability to attract women has nothing to do with whether or not he’s a good person Women are just as shallow as men when it comes to looks and far more shallow when it comes to money and status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/25 12:06 AM
8	"Women are just as horny, they just have safety/shame issues" doesn't check out with women not being tormented by sexlessness. World of difference between the two which you ignore just because some women are lonely and struggle. A woman has to be a broken failure to really be lonely and struggle, and likely many of those failures are self imposed. That’s not the case for a man. He can just be boring and thats enough to make him struggle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/25 02:39 PM
5	Do you think bad men are simply a case of demand breeds supply? Exactly. Just like hot women get away with being crazy, hot men don’t need to be nice and caring - women flock to them. Some might be nice but there is no sexual incentive to be nice, so it’s not something reinforced in them by success and failure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/25 11:28 PM
4	“Divorce has become casual, even celebrated, but the reality is that good men are being left behind for vague reasons. Today we’re looking at why women are filing at such high rates, and what that says about modern relationships.” They are pro marriage, not pro being married. They get to have their special day. They find a sucker to lock in to provide for their kids. They get to play house for a bit. Then when they get bored, they divorce and usually get a nice payday since at the least, the appreciation in assets during the marriage are marital assets, and they usually marry guys making more than them. Now she gets a guaranteed check, she has her kids, and it’s time to have fun again. That’s why divorce rates are so high…	/r/MensRights	17/09/25 03:26 PM
56	“Divorce has become casual, even celebrated, but the reality is that good men are being left behind for vague reasons. Today we’re looking at why women are filing at such high rates, and what that says about modern relationships.” Marriage is a win-win for women which is why feminists still continue to be pro marriage despite hating everything traditional.	/r/MensRights	17/09/25 01:40 AM
3	If the core advice for men is to acquire money and status why are you angry that you have to show it? Sure, if she is dating with purpose and she is young and looking for her lifelong man, absolutely her time is far more precious - but in that case the deal is she is offering up what a man wants - a young women, hopefully not promiscuous, wanting to commit to a worthy man. A woman in her prime looking for her lifelong partner is a wonderful thing. Hell yes to that, hook that wagon on my shoulders and watch me pull it, assuming she is showing me the interest and desire I want - that I’m not the b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/25 06:49 PM
2	If the core advice for men is to acquire money and status why are you angry that you have to show it? As a baseline, want to go on the date to evaluate me for a relationship (as that is what I want, not into hookups). It’s not a something easily quantifiable, but you recognize it when it’s there. I’ve been on dates that were wonderful and the girl was into me, wanted to continue the date with a coffee, etc. flip side is I’ve had a couple of dates where it was clear she wasn’t into me and was ready to leave when the check came. Those latter dates, didn’t feel great, and the icing on that unpleasa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/25 06:36 PM
13	If the core advice for men is to acquire money and status why are you angry that you have to show it? Red pilled men aren’t complaining about paying on dates. We are focused on seeing genuine interest and effort from the woman in response. Money, time or effort. Everyone can draw from those three buckets. Genuine desire means she will make active efforts, not just take with or make you chase.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/25 02:11 PM
18	If the core advice for men is to acquire money and status why are you angry that you have to show it? Your question dismisses the disparity between the sexes and assumes you get the benefit simply because you are female. It’s easy for you to not question what benefits you. It’s not sex for dinner, it’s the expectation that a man pays but it has no commensurate expectation on the woman. So a one sided burden. Is that equality? Your time is no more valuable than mine. So saying you get to go on a date with a woman is sexist - you are saying women are more valuable than men. What if the standard wa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/25 02:06 PM
0	Do men believe that nice guys finish last ? Women constantly claim mid to below mid women are 10s and anyone who doesn’t think some fat single mom isn’t a 10 is fat phobic and insecure. So why the hell shouldn’t a mid man be confident? Don’t you believe in equality? Why is confidence wrong in a man but celebrated in a woman?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 10:59 AM
2	Do men believe that nice guys finish last ? It’s been proven by the difficulty good guys have getting into relationships, and the high divorce rate, the majority of which are filed by women. Then the data pulled from OLD. Good men are kind and caring to women. Most men who get married are that way, that’s why they are willing to commit to one woman and not trying to keep playing the field. But go ahead. Bring flowers on your first date. Make her the center of your world, and build your life around her. Get busy doing chore play, put her n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 10:54 AM
–	Why do men here act surprised that women like attractive men ? Show me a mainstream article or source that clearly states women are only chasing attractive men. You don’t and you won’t. You’ll find articles on how men are not measuring up, or a lack of economically viable men. It’s the lying. Women are wired to not take responsibility and we need to not let them avoid it. Women are as shallow as men when it comes to looks and far more shallow when it comes to money and status - but you’ll never hear it from them. Go look at any of the dating subreddits. The…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/25 05:37 PM
2	Men are the Workhorses of Modern Relationships I appreciate the polite debate with you but we fundamentally disagree. At the core I think women today are stuck in an outdated mindset and have ignored the fact not only have they gained equality, they have preferential status. They continue to repeat falsehoods and push for more when there is nothing more to give when you actually look at the supposed disparities. I don’t know a single guy who is married that does not help at home, and help a lot, below the age of 60. They are all helping. Non…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/25 01:36 PM
2	Men are the Workhorses of Modern Relationships Raising children is a labor of love by choice. Would you die for your kids? Probably. Would you die for your boss? Hell no. Of course not the latter. Feminists love to call it thankless labor - so your kids are a worthless effort to raise? Adopt them away to a family that actually wants kids if that is how a woman feels. I don’t mean this at you specifically, just generally. I find it humorous that women want to have kids and then turn around and complain about raising them as thankless labor. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/25 02:36 AM
17	Men are the Workhorses of Modern Relationships Wrong. One, you don’t get to flip a switch at work to make more, you have to commit and work up to it. So men are already in that mindset to better attract a woman and continue down that path. You can’t just step back, focus on kids and keep that momentum. Paternity leave is not as accepted, and many expect men to continue to work through kids - not to mention he knows the burden is on him to provide more. Women generally don’t want men that makes less and have less status jobs compared to them.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 09:40 PM
3	The RP concept of "She's not yours, its just your turn", is completely in line with the ideals BP/ Feminism pushes in society Not at all. I’ve ’spun’ three plates at times. The reasons was each of them were nice and had elements that were great, but each lacked something or didn’t give me the desire to solely date them. I spent time with them, went on dates, and it was never just about sex - not every date ended with sex and that was by my choice. Spinning plates keeps men from overly focusing on one girl prematurely. So if you are trying to date you may have one or more you juggle while looking for another exclusive. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 09:25 PM
1	No, women aren’t attracted to bad men. You’re just hearing about the breakups. What women say, and that to which they react, are not aligned.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/25 06:28 PM
2	Which are the best arguments against that type of feminists that think "men are privileged" or "have it better"? Make them prove it and have the stats and arguments to support your position. You aren’t going to win but at least you stood your ground. I always emphasize if you actually believe in equality, then xyz. Equality is a double edged sword. Show me what woman have ‘lost’ or compromised as part of the rebalancing. It also helps to make them look around and use the real world. I had a couple women tell me how women are discriminated in my office. I pointed out their entire unit is female, I was the o…	/r/MensRights	24/08/25 04:46 PM
1	If marriage benefits men more than women, why are women always the ones pressuring their partner into marriage? Yup. Wore a tux some kid rented the previous week. Everything on the registry was home stuff for the kitchen. I paid for the honeymoon. Nothing special was done for me even though I bought her a massive flower bouquet to surprise her when we went to pick flowers. It was all about her and I was unfortunately blue pilled back then so I was proud to make all about her. What a joke.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/25 08:17 PM
5	Men have their own version of beta bux for women but don’t like to acknowledge it There is nothing to own about it. It’s always been the case. The issue is very few men can do this. It’s always about options, and the vast majority of men don’t have this option. By contrast almost all average women and above do have this option, and can easily exercise it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/25 02:04 AM
–	If women "hit a wall" then why should we bother with marriage? Funny how you talk up quality and value but your only descriptor for your man is his physical looks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/25 11:45 PM
2	Men choose to have half their stuff taken in divorce It’s a valid but harsh point. I’ve accepted it in my life after a divorce from a woman that made less than half what I did. The reality is I’m successful and I’m not going to meet someone who makes what I make and has my level of resources. I recently shut down a woman who wanted to be with me for that reason. I simply don’t trust a woman who makes way less than me anymore. The sad thing is not valuing a woman’s money is a man being flexible about it, and that bites us in the butt. It will be a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/25 05:29 PM
0	Why don’t you approach men as a form of empowerment? Because what women say, and that to which they respond, are never the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/25 10:37 PM
0	Why don’t you approach men as a form of empowerment? So approach the 1 in 10 you are interested in. Do you do that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/25 10:35 PM
1	Ironically, progressive women are still obsessed with status in men Nice post, but Not so sure about options - her becoming a senior director isn’t any more attractive or appealing - I’d say expectations instead - her expectations explode upwards as she thinks men at or higher are the only worthy partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/25 03:41 AM
-2	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category Because women breed and many will put their desire to breed above their attraction and affection for a man when the clock starts ticking down. For a time. Thats what you are trying to ignore. She often leaves once that temporary need is satisfied. So it’s no prize to say she wants to spend her life with him, particularly not when the divorce rate is around 50% with women filing most of them - and so many married men will tell you - they aren’t getting their world rocked when married. So either b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/25 08:35 PM
2	This quote "the bar is in hell for men". This quote doesn't make sense all. Because that bar isn't usually meant for all men. They’ve just turned it into a generic slur.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/25 01:24 AM
4	Women love the idea of Power Imbalances but hate the reality. Exactly. The actual mechanics of female attraction, respect and desire for men are completely disconnected from the equality arguments they love to spew.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/25 10:25 PM
4	People need to accept men generally do less parenting than women. True, but the answer is more nuanced. men will take the harder position that makes more money because he needs to provide. That is more stress. That is often more hours. That income benefits his family, that’s where it gets spent. She often gets to coast in an easier or lesser role since her income isn’t primary. My ex is an example. She worked the same job and position for a decade. She didn’t chase promotions because she didn’t want the stress. That is unbelievable to me. She mentioned they we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/25 01:45 PM
5	People need to accept men generally do less parenting than women. Feminists are stuck in the 1950s delusion that all men act like the dudes from the show mad men and they are wonderful oppressed women just trying to raise their kids in a patriarchy while being forced to look good for men. Ignore their clucking. Men, as you know, work hard and make efforts at home. These Reddit hens ignore the efforts because it’s all about them and they don’t want to admit they have it great.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/25 03:36 AM
3	The bluepill is by far the nastiest dating ideology It really ties into how men are looked at in terms of what they can do, not who they are. One of the biggest faults of blue pill Is trying to tell guys they can be themselves because they will be valued by the right woman. No, men will always be success objects and women will always look at what they can get by being with you. Better to execute well in life and have some leverage with women, than to bumble along and get used and often abused when a woman needs a provider to fund her breeding des…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/25 06:40 PM
4	We men are way too honorable and too forgiving and it is being used against us Honor and sacrifice are male concepts. Don’t let a woman use them against you. I’ve noticed so much of today’s societal rules, as you suggest, are just letting women act badly and forgiving them repeatedly.	/r/MensRights	27/07/25 01:53 AM
2	Being 6'1+ is a cheat code, everyone else saying otherwise is cope Yes.	/r/BlackPillScience	27/07/25 01:35 AM
3	Being 6'1+ is a cheat code, everyone else saying otherwise is cope I know a woman IRL dates a very tall guy - 6’8”. I know thst because she constantly talks about how tall he is. I’ve also had some of the women I work with make disparaging short man comments about an extremely fit, handsome shorter guy who is around 5’6”. Dude is super fit, great hair, and a director level So making 130k+ and pretty young. Every attractive women I know (several) are all with men that are quite a bit taller than them. I don’t know a single one with a man equal or lesser. Yes you…	/r/BlackPillScience	26/07/25 04:07 PM
26	Being 6'1+ is a cheat code, everyone else saying otherwise is cope There is an old 20/20 episode about women dating where they had a short man in the lineup. It’s a depressing watch. The short guy, even when they pumped him full of success and status, was dismissed by the women on the panel. Height matters, sucks but that’s life.	/r/BlackPillScience	26/07/25 03:58 PM
3	Why are so many female celebrities feminists? Publicity. They know when they say that stuff, the hordes of female fans eat it up. Flip side look at how anyone who does not follow the party line of the rainbow bridge get skewered.	/r/MensRights	25/07/25 01:34 PM
-2	Women are excluded far less than men are in the modern West The irony is this post. You and yours have been breaking open male spaces constantly. Did the Boy Scouts get created by men as a male space? What happened?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/25 12:53 PM
7	Tech Uber will let women drivers and riders request to avoid being paired with men starting next month Another dimwit confusing literally for figuratively, putting aside the fact that with over a dozen forms of birth control exist, including the morning after pill which is OTC and does not require a prescription, and is available everywhere.	/r/MensRights	25/07/25 12:10 AM
2	Those of you 30+ and are/were single at this age: did you start getting "flooded with attention" the moment you turned 30? Above average men will get far more attention rounding 30 but unfortunately it’s because women are looking to lock down a provider to have kids, so ya, plenty of women at 30. The far above average men continue to get more attention as they remain rare and desired and their competition thins out as their peers marry and many guys get fat and soft as they age. It gets even more intense from my experience when a man is his 40s. Now it’s a long line of women in their mid to late 30s and beyond despe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/25 08:08 PM
1	Why do you assume men are only looking for sex? Of course it won’t but perhaps you’ll realize that conversations on complex topics requires nuance, not simplistic absolutes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/25 06:00 PM
1	Why do you assume men are only looking for sex? And all women want is money and they all will sell their bodies to the highest bidder. See how stupid and sexist you sound?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/25 05:18 PM
8	Serious question. So, we all know about the cheating scandal that took place at a Coldplay concert. Why is the man being dragged way more harshly on social media than the female cheater? Exactly. What she did is actually worse, she is the head of HR and adopts and enforces their hr rules which would frown on this. It’s like a corrupt cop.	/r/MensRights	20/07/25 05:14 PM
2	Confidence is the main tool con men use, and it makes women more vulnerable to manipulation Women are not being manipulated. Stop refusing to hold them responsible for their actions. Women claim they have greater emotional maturity. They claim they develop faster. They claim they have better communication skills and have their vaunted female intuition. Then add in many women regularly think most men are dogs and all they want is sex. There is no way a big dumb and clumsy man can fool them based on their own claims. Women choose those guys. They want fun and excitement rather than be bo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/25 12:53 AM
2	How hard do you think it actually is to date as a heterosexual man. Very well said, thank you for being reflective on what the other side experiences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/25 07:07 PM
4	Men Are Tired Of Getting Played! - HERE'S Why Men Don't Stop to Help Thi... Interesting take. I wonder though how much of it is not being called a creep or something like that.	/r/MensRights	17/07/25 12:53 AM
77	Even after "the wall", women have more dating options than men do Of course they can still date and meet guys, that’s not the issue. They always have good options if they are attractive. The wall refers to her ability to get the guys she really wants. Thst does fade away as they approach 30. She can’t compete with the girls in their early 20s for those select guys. This is why so many women want to marry at 30. It’s because their bio clocks are ticking, their looks are fading. So they now need to lock down a provider to fund a family. That is why divorce is so…	/r/MensRights	17/07/25 12:50 AM
15	How I Used The 48 Laws Of Power, Making Women Instantly Attracted To Me True but you adopt the principles, those are enduring. Don’t be boring and mundane. Making efforts, variety, paying attention to your looks, and keeping her on her toes a bit - those things are all great.	/r/TheRedPill	15/07/25 04:01 PM
23	Make this Make Sense Boom goes the dynamite. When a woman complains about you not spending time with her while doing a chore that needs doing, tell her to woman up and come help. I had this happen with things like shoveling the snow after a blizzard. Im doing a chore that needs to be done, so either support me with something like bringing me a hot drink to warm me up, or get shoveling. I find when men do all the work, their expectations and demands skyrocket. Making her do things like contribute always slows them do…	/r/MensRights	15/07/25 12:37 AM
3	Women love to tell men what they're supposed to do, but men are almost always admonished for doing the same to women Toxic masculinity has been used by feminists to label anything a man says or does with which they don’t agree. The real issue is toxic misandry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/25 08:09 PM
16	Women love to tell men what they're supposed to do, but men are almost always admonished for doing the same to women Yup. I’ll never forget my ex wife was telling me that I don’t help her and am cheap for not paying her college debt. I pointed out I pay 100% of the mortgage, 80% of the utilities, and her health insurance. FYI we both worked and she made a decent income. She replied ‘you are a man, that’s what you are supposed to do.’ I replied you are a woman, what are you supposed to do? Silence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/25 08:07 PM
5	Women don’t care about cars. And past a certain age you should know that. They do care as it is an indicator of resources, not necessarily because they are into cars. Same thing with any expensive things like watches.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/25 07:21 AM
3	Women do not refuse the red pill arguments, they detest the label and who is declaring them The problem with your post is you are downvoting the aspects of the red pill that don’t put women in a perfect light. So you are fine with men having to do more and be more since that benefits you, but now it’s wrong when it talks about dealing with female nature and how it’s the opposite of sugar and spice. Dread is a good example. It’s a simple and absolutely valid thing - your woman needs to be reminded of your ability to be successful with women and men need to maintain that. Women always ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 06:01 PM
10	It's very rich that women expect guys to make the first move at all times yet they should be under no obligation. Nice comment. One of the big problems with a cold approach is it is so very looks dependent. If you aren’t great looking it’s going to be hard to get a clear indication of desire out of a cold approached woman. Like you suggested, meeting people through your friends was a nice way to vet and let a guys personality and reputation come through. I met a few women that way and it was great, your female friends aren’t going to sabotage you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/25 08:49 PM
7	Q4M: How would you feel if women acted like "fukgirls"? She is not the victim of fuckbois. Stop refusing to hold women accountable for their actions. She is choosing to sleep with hot guys rather than someone in her league. Women are the ones that choose to sleep with men. Why is she picking these guys? Why is she picking them over and over? Do you ever think about that or do you always immediately blame men since women are helpless victims of the patriarchy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/25 07:48 PM
5	Lauren Sanchez is the opposite of what Red Pillers are telling us that men want in women and shows that women just have to be hot and seductive She isn’t young. What’s her option? Either go hard on the plastics or just look old. I can understand why many people go down this path.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 05:09 PM
–	“Accountability” is just a useless redpill buzzword at this point. Wrong. We just want and expect women to admit to their mistakes, which is required to change behavior and not repeat. It’s that simple. If you don’t think you did anything wrong then you will just keep doing the same thing. What you see is women making bad choices and then blaming the men solely. For example I had an ex that I found out had an affair with a married man. When I asked her why she did it, her response was he doesn’t respect women. Okay, you knew he was married when you met him, why…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 06:41 PM
1	Should women only befriend men they are attracted to in order to avoid manipulating men? No, but they should clearly indicate no interest without deception if pressed. I’ve had many great female friends in my life, I made it clear I wasn’t interested in anything sexual with them, and that allowed us to get close without potentially ruining the friendship. Only had one try to be with me, which was unfortunate. It isn’t fair to either person if you are secretly hoping for more. Don’t do that, just to find someone who wants that too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 03:38 PM
5	Why are so many men obsessed with societal norms? You don’t understand the red pill. It’s not about submission, it’s about leading. It’s not about dominating other men, it’s about becoming successful and casting your own shadow. Men are valued for what we can do and achieve. That cold reality will never change. What women say and that to which they respond are two different things. As men we are wired to want woman, so if you want a woman, one that isn’t going to just use you, you need to execute well on traditional male attributes, because tho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:46 AM
3	Women are upset and hypocritical about men having access to sexual content because it threatens their power dynamics Oh ya, she had multiple mental issues and they all mothballed into her creeping on me in the shower to make sure I wasn’t, or waking me up at night (while sleeping next to me) to scream at me that I was doing it when I wasn’t. It was the first time I’ve ever met a woman like that so I got blindsided. I think masturbation is healthy but I also appreciate saving vitality for a relationship has it’s charms as well when it helps increase anticipation and desire.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 06:07 PM
-1	Women are upset and hypocritical about men having access to sexual content because it threatens their power dynamics Yup. My ex used to call masturbation cheating, in that you had to earn it from a woman, not masturbate. Interesting how so many woman traditionally hate prostitutes because a prostitute represents a drain on the resources of her man and the loss of her ability to use sex to control him, yet so many women when given the easy option, flock to onlyfans to sell themselves and call it empowering. Which isn’t? It comes down to power; whether it takes, or gives the woman power.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 02:24 PM
2	If women actually had such good personalities - men would just hire them to ghost write their dating profiles and chats. To provide more detail, she was coming over in the afternoon and then we were going to take my car and go to her parents, it needed to load it up. So it wasn’t showing up for date night and I’m not ready sort of thing - that would be annoying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/25 03:55 PM
4	If women actually had such good personalities - men would just hire them to ghost write their dating profiles and chats. I think that is one of the problems now, men are so easily replaced by decent looking women they can’t handle when the relationship moves past the thrills of initial courtship. Thinking about my ex. I used to always be ready when I went over to her place. Well she was stopping by mine so I figured I’d wait till she arrived before I change for us to go out. She flipped her lid when I answered my door in a t shirt and shorts, yelling how I am not making an effort. Stuff like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/25 09:16 PM
0	Men, what's the worst thing that happened to you after asking a woman out? 6th grade. Got up the nerve to ask out a girl in my class. ‘No, you are (insert my nationality).’ This was in the 80s, I’m an older guy. Fuck you, Vicky.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/25 04:27 AM
2	What do RP think of attractive men with less attractive women? People are all different. Nothing human is a monolith so you need to stop thinking in such rigid terms. General exist alongside outliers. In terms of your question, it could come from a variety of reasons. Perhaps they met when young and he is invested in her and content. Perhaps he likes a less attractive women that is absolutely thrilled to be with him over a looks match. Perhaps she has a specific background that he requires. I’ve personally dated some bigger women who weren’t as attractive a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 12:15 AM
1	Do men need women No. The thing to realize is all the sayings feminists use apply to men; they’ve adopted those things to try to make themselves feel equal. Strong and independent - independent of what? Men. Women don’t bring anything to a modern relationship that is irreplaceable other than intimacy, and that is not a necessity, it’s a wonderful luxury when it’s good, and for an average man it’s not often very good. There was a time when relationships were symbiotic, we needed each other. Not today. It’s easy to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/25 02:05 AM
4	Are there RedPill men, and potentially women, who are not angry about the current dating situation or the pill they've taken? There is a rage at first over the self inflicted pains of believing the blue pill nonsense, but it gives way to the fact that the red pill simply explains the reality of intersex relations. You can’t be mad at that, once you accept it. Knowledge is power and now red pilled people know what they need to succeed, if they are willing to do the work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 10:40 PM
1	What would you describe as unreasonable female standards Insistence on their man being superior. They need to step away from their hypergamous nature recognizing it’s sexist. If they believe in equality then they shouldn’t expect a man to make more than them, or be more educated than them, or do more work in the relationship. Equal effort. When you actually insist on equality in a relationship, they break pretty fast. Women I’ve been with wanted xyz and when I said sure, let’s split the cost - anger and silence. When one of them kept saying she loved …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/25 07:31 PM
7	Q4M: if women don't respond well to men being vulnerable, why would we push so hard for it? What do we have to gain from lying? Women push for it because it’s a very good tool for them. When women open up, other women support them and the reality is most men are quick to want to comfort, help and listen to her too. Vulnerability does not detrimentally affect our perception of a woman. So it’s not lying, it’s simply woman saying men should do what women do thinking the result is the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/25 12:49 AM
–	I think that marriage is risk. I’m not taking alimony, yes that is rare. I’m taking about the marital asset appreciation distributions which invariably benefits the lesser earners and women are almost always the lesser earners that benefit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/25 12:49 PM
–	I think that marriage is risk. lol. I’m an attorney, divorced, and have dealt with several divorces professionally. Pray tell, what’s your experience?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/25 12:47 PM
-5	I think that marriage is risk. Women file the majority of divorces. They do so because when they are unhappy they know they can leave with prizes, so they have no reason to stick around. When men are unhappy in marriage they know leaving will be financially disastrous, so they often just endure it for the family. Then again you Reddit hens think 99.987% of all divorces filed by women are because men are abusive, right? So then why is the divorce rate for lesbians shockingly high, while the lowest rate is for gay male marriage…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/25 02:49 AM
3	Nice guys actually do talk to women as people, but women then treat them as "one of the girls" That makes a lot of sense, buts it’s sad since connecting two vetted people is a great way to meet someone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/25 12:02 PM
20	Nice guys actually do talk to women as people, but women then treat them as "one of the girls" I think what he is saying is she never introduces him to her friends as a potential man to date, so she does not see him as a great man for a woman in her life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/25 03:37 AM
3	When telling women to "choose better," take into accountability how excellent some men are at leading women on just to get laid. Plus, most people think they're good guys. No. Women say they develop sooner than men, have greater emotional intelligence than men, are better communicators than men, and have their vaunted female intuition. There is no way a stupid and simple man can lead a woman on based on the above. Women choose those men, they just don’t want to take responsibility for their decision.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/25 11:57 PM
2	Women having high standards shouldn’t be a problem Updated to reference the category of wonen OP is discussing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 12:25 PM
2	Women having high standards shouldn’t be a problem Because those women don’t suffer in silence, they berate and ridicule men, along with constant social media posting, disparaging average men such that boys growing up are suffering alongside the constant insistence average men are failures. Thats why.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 11:22 AM
1	I am sick of hearing about being stuck in the FRIENDZONE from men Yup. If you are interested, make your move early and get your answer. If it isn’t an enthusiastic yes, that’s your answer. Never let a tepid response make you think there is a chance if xyz happens. No, any of thr nonsense women will spew is just her trying to get out of the situation gracefully. Once you get your non-enthusiastic response you need to decide what you want. Do you truly want a friendship? That’s fine but you need to be seriously honest with yourself and ask whether you are hoping…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 11:18 AM
2	Women want men who are kind , Emotionally available , considerate but they will throw away all of that for a guy thats just tall , funny and good in bed Yes. The difference is men are far more honest about this and women know it. while women and the blue pills refuse to admit it. Everyone woman knows deep down a hotter younger girl is a threat. Hence the hate older women have for younger girls, the desire to make their own money and not rely on a man, etc. But blue pilled men foolishly don’t understand this and think being a good man, and a loving provider who puts her first means he has built equity and loyalty from her. That showing any insecu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 04:03 PM
2	Most men are actually simps. And yet you don’t see women making those same efforts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 01:11 PM
2	Hey PPD! What is an unpopular opinion that you are thoroughly convinced is true about modern dating after many years? That women are just as shallow as men when it comes to looks and far more shallow when it comes to money and status. That being a good man and improving her life is rarely appreciated unless you are hot while doing it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/25 05:11 PM
8	Hey PPD! What is an unpopular opinion that you are thoroughly convinced is true about modern dating after many years? Well said. What I’ve always found hilarious is women constantly boast about developing sooner than men, having more emotional intelligence, being better communicators, and having female intuition. Okay, so how are big stupid men fooling you into sleeping with them? Where were all those superpowers when that tall jacked douche hit you up? You should be running rings around some clumsy ox of a man trying to run game on you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/25 05:09 PM
11	Single women are happier than single men It’s the reality that she won’t get the perfect man and family she thinks she deserves when she was young and high on her power. Women will always find a beta to breed and provide, but they won’t be thrilled with that beta, who was what she could get when she got older. So she squandered her best years unable to lock down a great guy - and many of them refuse to reality acknowledge their reality, and many just stay single waiting for their Prince Charming. I experience this frequently when I was…	/r/BlackPillScience	28/04/25 11:58 PM
1	Is It that Men are Intimidated by Successful Women, or is it the Fact Successful Women Tend to Be Agressive? Very successful women in my experience simply aren’t very feminine and enjoyable to spend time with. I’ve dated a couple (I’m successful) and it wasn’t a pleasant experience. They competed with me constantly in casual conversation, none of them were feminine in their personal lives, and outside of a couple of them wanting and enjoying being dominated in the bedroom, they weren’t able to go with the flow and enjoy the moment for what it was - their expectations were sky high while still never con…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 11:41 AM
3	Redpillers think that women in the past were perfect, but they often just hid it better Absolutely false. What red pillers say is there were far more social constraints on women that didn’t allow them to act as many do now, the biggest being birth control, but alongside it the erosion of the the importance of family, the active practice of religion, and the glorification of single moms. Female nature has never changed, and it never will. Same for men. We aren’t separated from our lizard brain desires.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/25 02:14 AM
0	Why do men think they are funnier than women? Good lord. Always blame men, right? You women have had comedy specials on all major outlets for decades, and there are plenty of you on snl and in the writing rooms. Hell Oprah had her own network and female talk shows dominate daytime tv. The lack of any superstar female comedians your own issues, not male created.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/25 02:23 AM
1	Red Pillers should actually accept the mantra they preach and "embrace the decline" You can care about the future of your country or your planet, have you never worked on something larger than yourself? Good people care about more than just their selfish lives. I don’t have to care on a personal level. My life is set, I’m childfree, highly educated, successful, and divorced never to marry again. I date occasionally and that’s my limit. I’m enjoying the current dynamic on a personal level as a line of women keep trying to rope me into more than what I’m willing to offer. But I d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 01:47 PM
2	Why do women want men to provide but not make more? So daft. Women get paid equal when they work equally. No company pays women less than a man for the same spot when hiring. Go sue your company if you think that. Women choose to do multiple things which result is them making less. They don’t take physically hard jobs that pay well. They don’t chase promotions like men will do. My ex for example worked the same job for a decade. When I asked her why she didn’t put in for the manager spots she said it was more work and not much more money. That’s …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/25 10:13 PM
–	"Just approach women, bro" is outdated, sexist and pointless. Unfortunately there are plenty of sperm banks for them to frequent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/25 07:49 PM
13	Can money or a great personality make up for no physical attraction ? Well said. You can go from neutral to positive, but not from negative to positive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/25 02:49 PM
1	"just be confident" is a shallow advice for men Confidence comes from competency. Men have to build that through successful effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/25 12:47 AM
–	Why can’t there just be healthy balances and compromises on a person by person basis? Yes if course that’s how we all want to approach things. I’ve had that exact mindset in the past and the belief that good communication (at which I excel) will allow a couple to work through everything along with healthy compromise. Then you realize it does not work. Then you see when they start acting in ways that make no sense. That’s what leads you to start trying to understand the reality, not what you’ve been led to believe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 03:36 AM
–	Why can’t there just be healthy balances and compromises on a person by person basis? They do if men lose their jobs and don’t quickly find another. Thats their version of weight but don’t fool OP, women are as shallow when it comes to looks these days.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/25 03:33 AM
1	If You Believe Women Only Go For A-Holes, Does That Mean You Believe Married Men and Men With GF’s Are Assholes? Of course. It’s just easier to say top than type out a paragraph. Frankly the bulk of those men women call assholes or narcissistic or whatever are simply men that aren’t pushovers who just say yes and give in to them. Thats been my personal experience, repeatedly. Women are drawn to these men, and then get frustrated when they can’t control them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/25 04:05 PM
11	If You Believe Women Only Go For A-Holes, Does That Mean You Believe Married Men and Men With GF’s Are Assholes? Women go for top men. Those men get away with being asses because they can. Same way hot women get away with being crazy. Most women cannot get those men long term. Thats not a big deal but for the fact most of them want to breed, so they settle for men they don’t really want to be with once they get older. Those average men are the ones that provide the resources females want. Give a choice women want a dad and his resources in the mix over single motherhood, and if a man marries one, the law a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/25 07:19 PM
2	Everything being men's fault may be somewhat true, but THAT might not be men's fault. Wrong. The red pill stresses maximizing yourself to enjoy life more, and to not listen to the blue pill drivel women will spew when asked what they look for in a man. As a result of that, women will be more attracted to you, but that’s a secondary result of simply working hard to build a good life. A man’s self worth should be measured in how much of an impact he has made with his life. Has he done something good, has he becomes successful, has he achieved success.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/25 04:52 AM
4	The idea that men are intimidated by successful women is mostly a myth. I’m successful so no, I dated a woman that almost made as much as me once. In that relationship she wanted to split all house expenses but I paid for our dating life. Generally the women I’ve been with have made half what I made, last ex was at a third. That said I know a couple of couples with that woman making more and they aren’t great relationships since frankly those women want to have that position of power over those guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/25 01:03 PM
45	The idea that men are intimidated by successful women is mostly a myth. Excellent point. Women who make more on my experience do look down on their men, or do resent them in some way which is backed up by the divorce stats.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/03/25 02:07 AM
6	Majority of "misandrists" are men. Yup. If someone tells me not to walk in a terrible neighborhood wearing a Rolex and flashing a hundred grand, that’s just good advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 05:38 AM
1	Q4M: Why aren't men as into Consensual Non-consent or raep fantasies as much as women? I’m guessing it is because men are stronger than women, and women prize strength and the capacity for violence in men as that signals their ability to protect and obtain resources. So it’s logical they would fantasize about that power used on them in a safe place, which is the bedroom. This is why so many women like murderers and gangbangers, if they are physically attractive. As a man, getting physically dominated by another couldn’t ever be a positive to me, it would signal a defeat. While the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/25 05:34 AM
3	"If they're still single in their mid-30s there's a reason" - why is it OK for women to say this about men, but not the other way round? No, common sense is to select a woman that can produce a good baby or more if possible after a natural development of the relationship, not one at that tail end of her fertility as that entails complications and immediately trying to have them, let alone the massive cost of IVF. One of the women I met was quick to tell me she had saved up 30k for IVF, and I know a couple of couples that went down that path. Most women breed, it’s not hard to find one that wants kids. It’s much harder to find one…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/25 07:12 PM
13	"If they're still single in their mid-30s there's a reason" - why is it OK for women to say this about men, but not the other way round? So women are too mentally dim to be mature in their mid 20s? Aren’t you supposed to be the ones that develop sooner than men, have superior social and communication skills, and have your vaunted female intuition? Women who are young pick older men because of money and status. Men pick younger for beauty and, generally, happier and still vibrant. That’s life. When I was in HS all the hottest girls in my class had college boyfriends, and I’m older and that general rule has continued to this day. A…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/25 05:14 PM
–	If TRP wasn’t accurate, blue pillers would not be trying to censor it so aggressively What frustrates me is that subreddits like redpill women is open but the men’s TRP is censored snd not even available on the mobile version of Reddit. Too many people are lazy when it comes to learning about views with which they don’t agree. So they see the extremist spew some nonsense and immediately assume that’s what, for instance, the red pill is about. Fact is the red pill is reality, and no average guy likes that uncomfortable reality. Many men, myself included, became red pilled due to b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/25 10:16 AM
3	Valentines Day is for Women not Men. If women love romance then it’s a day for them to be romantic as well. You set boundaries that include equal effort from her, and if she does not follow through, then dial it back if you stay with her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/25 10:57 PM
1	Why is it shallow for a woman to have income standards in a partner if she wants children/ a family Reasonableness in the expectation. One thing to want a nice life. It’s another to want a fancy life in today’s world where she can go make a living. If she is demanding a high value man, she needs to really deliver the goods. That said yes, if she is an outlier, she can demand an outlier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 08:36 PM
1	Why is it shallow for a woman to have income standards in a partner if she wants children/ a family It’s not if the focus on the ability to have and provide for a family. It is when the women is just looking to enjoy a fancy life that is beyond what she could achieve herself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 03:33 PM
6	What’s up with “attractive men are bad and not interested in monogamy, unattractive men are good and loyal?” Well a hard part of that is many women just assume that they are hot enough to land and keep those guys. Pretty easy to tell a man don’t try out of your league, or you are a fool as a 5 chasing a 8… saying that to many women just falls flat. Any man that draws the eyes of every woman in the room is out of your league, 9 times out of 10. That does not mean he might not smush, but it does mean he won’t want a LTR with you. Again, can’t make today’s women understand that. tell men if she shows no r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/25 11:22 PM
2	Marriage Is Clearly Illogical for Men Given The Statistics None of that matters. That’s the problem with marriage. She can promise the sky and moon and that means absolutely zero when she decides to divorce.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/25 06:59 PM
5	A man should never be vulnerable with his partner, since women can't handle men's emotions Not everyone here has limited experience. I think these debates are helpful for men in particular who aren’t experienced to have a better roadmap before getting into a relationship, or navigate when things start to happen. The world is blue pilled and tells men to do things that ultimately rarely work. They can damage themselves or their lives if they don’t realize things aren’t what they have been told. If these types of threads stop even one man from doing something stupid, then I’m glad to ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/25 05:13 PM
18	A man should never be vulnerable with his partner, since women can't handle men's emotions So then there is no debate over any topic since you will say not everyone is that way? Generalizations can be valid even with exceptions. I know from my personal life opening up didn’t result in more closeness. I know from my personal life that women say they love communication but quickly shut down when it is two way where a man talks about his hopes, wants, needs and issues. They generally want communication to mean they are the topic of discussion. I know from my life when my women had opened…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/25 04:42 PM
1	The Reason Getting Dates is So Much Harder For Men Is Women Won’t Look Past Any Flaws They don’t have to look past flaws in today’s world. I hate the power disparity, but that’s how life is today. That said, if they find the guy attractive enough they will look past a dozen red flags and flaws.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/25 12:44 PM
0	Question about financially successful women. Sounds decent but two things I’d want to address: 1) how come four long term relationships ended, why? I’ve had 4 as well so I get it that things can go bad but did she cheat or act badly would be my first concern. The second is welding is a very make dominated field. So if she is an attractive woman, she must get overwhelming amounts of male attention in the workplace and on job sites. I’d want to understand how that works, whether she is addicted to attention and needs to be the center of it -…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/25 02:56 AM
1	Sexual double standard is irrational Male promiscuity is only possible if a man is successful at attracting women be it through looks, money, status or game. It’s a byproduct of being desirable to women. Female promiscuity is achievable by most woman with little effort, particularly in a world with OLD, and where society has dismantled the traditional restraints on female promiscuity. Put aside the fact the sexes are not the same and we are different, and the large amount of studies and research that show promiscuity has deleteriou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 12:00 PM
3	Generally speaking, women are more empathetic than men. You are mistaking curiosity in order to satisfy their need for social interaction with empathy. Women are not kinder and more empathetic, they simply want social interaction far more, need it, thus they get it. Male support for their friends? For a real friend many men will absolutely help, even sometimes unto death. Most men don’t collect a vast group of friends, so it’s a handful at best or close friends and a group of acquaintances. The core group is ride and die for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 07:31 PM
2	CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectification Women love being objectified by men they want, it can be any combination of money, looks or status. Female reaction to just about anything a man does has to be filtered though this variable. You can literally be a murderer of women and if attractive, they will flock to you like we see with wade wilson and other attractive prisoners. You can be super high status like the movie stars with young girl lined up ready to replace the current one like with our friend decaprio when everyone knows what’s …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 05:47 PM
–	All long-term relationships require the man to do whatever the woman wants Yup. So you need to make her do the job you expect from her from the beginning. Too many men put women on a pedestal and then expect her to open up and reciprocate because they’ve proven their love and devotion. Ya that never works. Women take and will always take. This is the biggest lesson I’ve learned from my blue pilled foolishness, lay out what you want and expect up front and she will either agree or leave, you win either way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/25 07:41 PM
25	Why are you a red piller ? Yes it does. Don’t judge a woman by her past. If you don’t accept her at her worst you don’t deserve her at her best. Man up and accept her children. Do more chores and make her life better, and she will find you attractive because nothing is hotter than a man doing the dishes. The list goes on and on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/25 10:39 PM
39	Why are you a red piller ? I believe many men become red pilled after poor experiences being blue pilled. Fact is most men are average and the blue pill was a good strategy for an average man to find a woman - when men were needed. For me, in past relationships when I was blue pilled I kept doing more and more, sacrificing more, accepting so many red flags because I shouldn’t judge. Ended up cheated on, or she left when I stopped the one sided sacrificing. So took a deep breathe and started reading and found TRP which con…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/25 06:34 PM
3	Men who don't want to get married, why? I was married and tried very hard to make her happy. After a massive divorce settlement in her favor (of course) marriage is off the table absent extraordinary circumstances which must include her making and having as much as I do, which is very unlikely. Marriage rewards women for leaving since they tend to marry up or for resources. Women are constantly being told they can do better and that if they are bored, that means their relationship ship isn’t worthwhile. You don’t want to sign a contra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 01:16 AM
3	Men who say they don't care Because I’ve never had a woman spend her money on me in any way that came close to what I spend on her. I’ve dated low (relative to me) and almost equal earners and frankly there wasn’t much of a difference. So I’d rather have someone in a hopefully lower stress job with less hours that is happier to be with me. The second thing I’ve noticed is women that are high earners are more competitive with me, wanting to show how hard they work. It isn’t a pleasant thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 08:19 PM
8	The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to fail Most red pilled men become red pilled after bad experiences when doing the blue pilled thing utterly failed, and as they did more and worked harder to please, it just got worse. So no, it does not set up men to fail. All the red pill tells men is the truth, stripped of delusion. Looks, money and status matter. Being fun and charming matters. You have to work hard and max yourself to improve your chances with the opposite sex. It’s not a extreme or radical thing but in a world where media tells m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 10:07 PM
1	Is “the wall” different for a female late bloomer? A big issue there is breeding. If they want kids then being a late bloomer does not mitigate the fact that her breeding window is reduced. I don’t want kids. When I was last trying to meet a gf I made it clear but still, multiple well put together women in their mid to late 30s were trying hard to get me to marry and breed with them. No man who wants a family is going to purposely choose a woman at the tail end of fertility, and instead of spending a few years together enjoying life together, it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 12:45 AM
1	Is “the wall” different for a female late bloomer? And the flip side is you are given it without merit or effort, and get to succeed merely by preserving and enhancing it. Leverage it well and you can set yourself up for life. It does suck that youth is wasted on the young, but such is life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 12:39 AM
3	There needs to be a movement of men that advocate for freedom for men in society. Very true. The best answer is the unpopular one - she does not get to keep it and we arrange one the many couples who want to adopt to get it if born. Right now we have what you say - a woman can breed and then the state is the payor through assistance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/24 01:30 PM
2	There needs to be a movement of men that advocate for freedom for men in society. She is getting the sole power to keep or dispose of it. It’s still not the same situation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/24 05:11 AM
2	There needs to be a movement of men that advocate for freedom for men in society. Men do need some right in this equation. If a woman gets to have 100% right to have or abort it even over the objections of the father, regardless of any marriage or agreements, then there should be some ability for the man to clearly limit his exposure in case where women lie about being on the pill, or fish out the condom, or poke holes in them, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/24 12:38 AM
3	There needs to be a movement of men that advocate for freedom for men in society. What about when a woman lies about being on the pill, or when they (extreme cases) grab the used condom for the seed when you toss it (nba telling players to flush their condoms)?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/24 12:36 AM
39	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them This is the core of the problem with modern dating. The typical man that will treat a woman extremely well is a man to whom that woman is valuable, because he cannot easily replace her. Women want to be special but are chasing a small group of guys for whom they are easily replaceable. Those guys won’t ever think of her as valuable unless she is hard to replace, and she will never be hard to replace as those guys have access to most women with little effort. Their self view is distorted by the h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 08:29 PM
32	What is the dating experience like for an average man? What an utterly selfish response. Guy writes out a big and great post of how hard it is to make a connection, and a Reddit hen comes along to say try harder and make me feel special because female wants are all that matters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 02:27 PM
–	Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media". Not always the case, many of them lie. I refuse to have kids, extremely up front about it. Dated several woman who agreed and after a bit of time, start talking about kids. Hell one was barren so I was thrilled since she couldn’t have kids - a month in she starts talking about adopting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 05:15 PM
-1	Red-Pill needs to put more stock in teaching men how to be good in bed. Stop. Being good in bed does require training. One of the best books I read was ‘she comes first’ which teaches the importance and good techniques for oral. Most men don’t get much practice time and when they do typical women aren’t great at saying what they want - they expect men to get it. Men are logical. They need guidance and female anatomy and sexual response is not easy to just pick up. Reading books like the one I referenced helps five guys confidence to make sure they make her cum repea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 03:24 AM
10	When single... Did/Do you care about what the opposite sex finds attractive? Well said. Same for me. I always knew deep down looks mattered but thought being successful and a good man could overcome looks for a man if you were looking for a good woman to have a serious relationship. Oopsie.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 09:11 PM
-1	Women had nearly flawless PR until social media which has inadvently led to the Redpill He can’t control his face and head looks. Go look up one of his YouTube vids, he is in great shape and ripped. That said, shame on you for insulting his looks as if that somehow negates what he says. He has maximized what he can which is all anyone can do, and is what he says to do. His content is accurate. I’ve experienced it all before reading his books and when I did, it connected all the dots and made absolute sense, as bitter as bitter a pill as it is. As an aside he is married has a daught…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 06:32 PM
5	"Bar for men is on the floor" - Is this a real statement or just a tongue in cheek phrase meant to aggravate men? Yes of course it is. Young women don’t want to breed because they want to have fun and enjoy themselves when young and hot, and everyone is telling them to have fun. It’s when they cross 30 that they get the desire to have kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 09:30 PM
1	"Bar for men is on the floor" - Is this a real statement or just a tongue in cheek phrase meant to aggravate men? Not nearly as much as women do. A couple of my buddies actively wanted kids, but most of them she got pregnant and they went along with it. The real proof is look at how many women are single moms or breed solo (sperm bank). You don’t see hordes of single straight men trying to adopt, or line up surrogates.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 04:37 PM
1	Bad boys are liked by women only because of their self-confidence Nope. A confident short guy has napoleon complex per women. A average man is just overcompensating, and the list goes on. You’ve got it backwards; hot men can be confident and arrogant because women still want them in the same way a hot woman gets away with being crazy. Unless he has serious wealth or status, he has to be good looking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 03:48 PM
11	"Bar for men is on the floor" - Is this a real statement or just a tongue in cheek phrase meant to aggravate men? Right. And the women are mowing the lawn, shoveling the snow, and paying most of the bills? Women are breeders and want kids and then complain about actually having to take care of them. I don’t know a single man in a marriage who does not do a ton of work at home as well as works and usually earns more than the woman. Hell in two of the relationships the men are very high earners and great cooks to boot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 02:58 PM
1	Being called "sweet", "nice" or "gentleman" means they are not attracted to you Context matters. Everything women say can be either enhanced due to attraction, or drained of any sexual connotations due to lack of attraction. That is at the core of why one shouldn’t listen to their words, just observe their actions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 01:52 PM
1	women dont love the man, they love themselves throught their man This is a fair take. That said there is duty and honor in a man’s heart for a woman he loves. There is no conscious decision to obtain validation when a man covers his woman in a shooting with his body as we often see. It is an instinctual duty to act, to sacrifice himself, while she will never do the same - just scream or cower.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 05:53 AM
1	Men should generally never take dating advice from women. What women say they want, and what they actually respond to, are very different. A woman will essentially tell you the traits she wants in a guy she is attracted to, not understanding why she is attracted to him, and not seeing that the reason for her attraction isn’t the very traits she claims to want in a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 05:50 AM
3	Its sad that most men allow themselves to be used as human ATMs by women. Once again, no. You are ignoring entirely the fact the man wants to stay, commit, and provide. It’s not give you money for sex, it’s I will give my labor and efforts to build a relationship with you. I will be there. Money is for many of the men that do that the proof of their intent and ability.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 06:21 PM
3	Its sad that most men allow themselves to be used as human ATMs by women. It’s not that. It’s being able to provide a good life for a girl by a man that can’t attract one with raw physical appeal. Proof you will be there, will provide, will honor and protect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 04:10 PM
1	Men are held to a higher/more rigid standard of masculinity than women are for femininity. Definitely. I tell women to ‘woman up’ and it is enjoyable to see their irritation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 12:09 AM
4	Invisible women exist just as much as invisible men. First of all, women can easily improve their looks to enhance male attention if that is what they want. Simply dressing feminine, growing out hair, heels or cute shoes, basic makeup… and any average to a bit below average woman will draw attention. A invisible man would have to do far, far more and still there is no guaranteed increase in attention, and then he needs to get game and money as well. Second, invisible women really are only invisible to them men they want, and the vast majority of t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 01:09 AM
10	CMV: Why are males more likely to stay in miserable marriages? They don’t. Most men don’t understand the reality until they are married and things change.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/24 02:22 AM
14	CMV: Why are males more likely to stay in miserable marriages? The costs for leaving a marriage are far higher for men than women, and there is no positive spin on it by society like there is for women. So they just bear it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/24 12:58 AM
2	What do you think about the common assertion that many women have unrealistic standards? It’s not an assumption. Divorce statistics are clear. Women file most of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 09:53 PM
1	What do you think about the common assertion that many women have unrealistic standards? And let’s see how many of them initiate divorce after they’ve had their kids and are bored with the provider they married since they are approaching 30. Marriage is a win for women with no downside.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 05:37 PM
3	What are your thoughts on why men aren’t attending singles events? Unless the event is narrow in scope to ensure the women there would be receptive to a guy like me, I just see it as a pointless endeavor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 07:02 PM
–	Women Do Not—I Repeat, Do NOT 🙅‍♂️—Like Assholes or Narcissists. But There's a Reason They Keep Ending Up With Them. It’s not that they love asses. It’s that the men they want can get away with being asses. It’s the flip side for women how a hot woman gets to be crazy. A high end guy gets to do what he wants and women will follow. His disinterest seems to excite them. I was a conditional chad and the women that were into me would do and tolerate anything because they wanted to be with me, and would throw themselves at me even when I showed zero interest. There is something about a high end guy that can’t be bo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 11:53 PM
9	Why do you think so many women have the same dating issue No. The majority of average men want and would love to have a relationship. It’s only the hot guys who don’t want to spend time with one woman and have to spend resources on her when he can have many women with little or no obligations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 11:43 PM
1	You're wasting your time chasing party girls Those are not always mutually exclusive. We all know how important looks are in the real world and the biggest party guys I knew in college are all very successful now. Thst outgoing, good looking thing often can pay off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 07:01 PM
0	You're wasting your time chasing party girls Child support is not set based on the needs of the child. It is generally set based on the income of the non custodial parent. That means the woman who typically gets the kids will often get far more than is actually necessary to support the kids. If she gets a high value man she might find her house paid for, nor not even have to work. That is why so many women are desperate to have a kid from a professional athlete, musician, etc. Thst same analysis applies to when they try to land a good prov…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 05:43 PM
2	You're wasting your time chasing party girls My reality supports this view. My ex took six figures from a short marriage in which she didn’t contribute to any marital assets because I made far more than her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 05:39 PM
0	You're wasting your time chasing party girls Not the same risk profile if talking marriage since she can divorce him at will and take substantial money as a parting gift along with child support for the kids she wanted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 03:35 PM
1	You're wasting your time chasing party girls The danger is that party girls can clean up her look as she hits the wall looking for a faithful provider to use for her breeding and retirement purposes. It’s easy to see and know a party girl is not quality, but its too easy for them to don the appearance of quality once the lights come on in the club and it’s time to leave.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 12:29 PM
1	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? Men who have their acts together and learn the right lessons about women from divorce flourish post divorce. Unfortunately many blue pilled guys never recover from a divorce and it kills their spirit. Once that happens it’s easy for a man to drop off, no one cares about us. I’m 4 years out from a divorce. Life is much better. I’m far wealthier, fitter, and life is far more pleasant with the ability to date a few women if so inclined, and compete freedom to do what I want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 11:53 PM
-1	CMV: Men shouldn't help/physically protect women due to the risk of protecting a misandrist or a feminist Helping a clearly incapable person such as someone elderly or disabled is a noble act. Many men help women out of kindness and to be chivalrous. I used to do it all the time, but no longer as I’ve seen women become increasingly sexist. Women are just as capable so they can do it themselves and if their mouths get them in trouble, they get to learn the lessons every boy learns.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/24 03:55 AM
5	The Self Improvement that TRP Teaches Seems Pointless Sometimes. This. You improve your life and you end up enjoying it more and the secondary effect is women will be more attracted to you. Being fit, making decent money, having some fun hobbies - heck that’s a nice life and if you have all of that you can likely date a few women along the way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 11:34 PM
–	Being sensitive as a guy is a good thing None of that is the sensitivity born of weakness, those are all good things for any man to have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 11:28 PM
1	Most men basically worship women. Our greatest flaw is loving that which does not love us back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 08:40 PM
-1	Most men basically worship women. No. You want a woman that enjoyed her Hoe phase and now needs a beta to provide for her breeding, you go to church.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 08:38 PM
1	Men have a biological clock as well Yes and no. There is an endless supply of mid 30s women desperate to breed so if you are willing to have a baby with a woman of that age, you can do so deep into your 50s as an above average man. If you are rich or have big status, you can definitely find women who want your resources deep into old age if so inclined.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 05:57 PM
2	Curious what women view as "good guys" Disagree because many good guys lose when some attractive guy throws that woman some attention.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 07:16 PM
3	Women don’t want to be in a relationship or marriage Women now get the opportunity to be perpetually in the honeymoon phase, where the men are doing the vast majority of the effort and are appreciative of the most basic things. A line of men are a click away. That’s why boredom has become such a serious knock on a man. Women get bored and know they can just line up fresh meat. I don’t think it’s a defensive thing by them, they just get to now have the front loaded fun that shifted into a real relationship that required them to step up and do more.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 11:48 PM
1	The popular advice "Happy wife, happy life" If a man does not lead, she will expand into that vacuum. Women will demand everything if allowed and happily ruin things if they are not catered to by the beta provider they marry for resources. Hence this saying. Happy me, happy we. That’s how a man that values himself and sees women as fungible approaches this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/24 07:35 PM
1	If you had the option to get plastic surgery at little to no cost would you? Absolutely. Better bodies through science. I for instance had LASIK done and it was a dream come true not wearing glasses and getting to wear sunglasses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/24 06:12 PM
-6	What is a show of submission a woman can give to a man ? The big problem with woman today is they confuse submission with deference. What men want is respect and a level of deference to his leadership in a relationship in the same way men will defer to her in many aspects of a relationship as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/24 07:17 PM
1	Do men on here understand why women follow alpha fucks and beta bucks? Of course it’s understandable. It’s their dual mating strategy and it’s is entirely focused on their needs. In an ideal world of course sleep with hot guys they can’t get to commit but try, and then when she gets too old to compete with the young new girls, get an average guy to provide, a man that will simply fill a role for her and her kids. The epiphany phase is not women maturing, it’s simply her realization she can’t continue to compete in the same league as before. As a man im not interest…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 03:24 PM
3	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? Well said but you’ve been there and done that, so now you are choosing your preferred option. Many blue pillers never have that option and likely would seize the option if it became available. Maybe they end up with your mindset, but it would need to come after experience of being able to treat women as disposable and easily replaceable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 07:35 PM
11	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? You are asking blue pilled guys to admit their mindset is based on their physical deficiencies. That isn’t going to happen to often. The answer is yes. Almost all men would because there is little to no chasing needed. I was a conditional chad - certain woman lose their mind over me and it was shocking how they would throw themselves at me, show up at my office unannounced offering to take me home, constantly asking to come spend the night at my place, etc. I could be incredibly dismissive and s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 07:12 PM
7	How would you feel if your bf/husband said he wasn’t initially attracted to you? Would your opinion change if he never really found you attractive just determined you would be a decent mother and a decent companion?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 03:51 AM
4	What do men want Men know what they want. The issue is they are bullied and vilified if they say it. A layer deeper is we find a variety of women attractive, and can find any passion she has for a legitimate hobby or cause to be an attractive thing as well. What all men want and need, though, is to be respected.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/24 02:48 AM
10	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. This is a stupid take by the typical modern feminist trying to bring the attention back to women. Paternity testing ensures the real father knows he has a kid in addition to ensuring some sucker isn’t being fooled for decades of investment. Those are infinitely higher stakes than whether someone is cheating. You were supposed to vet the man before you let him impregnate you and 7 days of additional vetting will achieve nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 06:52 PM
1	Women should not complain about being left for younger woman I’m bored. I love you but I’m not in love with you. A real man would (insert some demand) These are the things many men get to hear from a woman who took vows and promised to stay. What you say, that’s only fair now in the world women demanded now where nothing ties them to a man, and nothing they do (even cheat) matters or affects them. It is crappy. But better to punch back than be a punching bag. Granted if your woman is a good one she has earned your loyalty, but that’s not the typical woman…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/24 12:22 PM
1	Women should not complain about being left for younger woman It’s the flip side of women being able to sleep with whomever risk free (birth control) and leave a marriage risk free with prizes (no fault plus prizes). If women have been able to eliminate their two big impediments that previously existed, then men should gain something in this new deal (equality, right?) but unfortunately, it isn’t seen that way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/24 12:17 PM
1	Men: what are some ways that women have treated you "horribly"? My last ex hit me repeatedly, spit in my face, threw water at my face, racially slurred me, called me every name in the book. She would laugh about calling the cops since she was white and I am not. Eventually divorced her as it got worse, not better, and it didn’t start until we were married. Of course she left with substantial prizes. The worst part is no one believes me. My parents still talk to her after years post divorce despite me asking them not to communicate with her. Mind you she yell…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 06:53 PM
1	Older men have no incentive to improve themselves for older women who are "tired of their bullshit".. If a woman has ever dated an older man she has no basis to complain. Just ignore them. As women age they increasingly get angry at the things they can no longer do or get as when they were young.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/24 06:05 PM
12	If a lady is not being intimate with you, it means you are not attractive enough or not trust worthy enough I think that is what he is saying. They slept with the hot guy and they call it a mistake.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 02:16 AM
2	Does redpill strategy work for disrespectful wife ? Yes it does. Read up on dread games one must play with wives. Rollo’s books go into it.	/r/MarriedRedPill	23/08/24 04:37 PM
1	Do you think men not caring about your career, income and status is a good thing? Much of what women do for beauty is for other women or to show off, don’t pretend it’s all for her men. For example, No man cares about your purse yet women want fancy ones. Your massive work wardrobe, most of your jewelry it’s all for fitting in with other women and signaling your value to them. A couple examples: Tight clothes are uncomfortable compared to loose stuff. I notice the two fit women on my team wear tight and skimpy outfits to the office. The big ones wear loose. They are all marri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 04:23 PM
2	Do you think men not caring about your career, income and status is a good thing? Which is the cost you bear to attract a man, that’s no different than the costs a man incurs in keeping a woman but that goes right back to the issue that a woman’s money gets spent on herself, while the man’s big costs to keep her are spending on her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/24 12:12 PM
6	Do you think men not caring about your career, income and status is a good thing? Exact same thing applies for men, but women don’t spend large portions of their money on their man in the way men routinely will on women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 10:39 PM
3	The people who claim most women "like bad men" are lying to you. Ignore the liars' tiny sample size, American-bubble "studies" which "prove women like bad men" and just look at it from a women's self-interest perspective. Bad men will hurt them and make their lives worse. Women are attracted to handsome men capable of violence. Period. They all want to be protected and a propensity for controlled violence is universally liked in a men. The issue is they think they can be the one he won’t hurt. That he will be bad to others but not her. That she can tame him. That is why so many of the handsome men on death row get sent thousands of letters from women as an extreme example. Look at wade wilson. Literally killed a couple random women. Thousands of letters to him an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 11:21 PM
0	CMV: women aren't empathetic caring individuals Stop immediately turning it around, and no one ever says men are kind and nurturing to everyone. The OP post goes to the halo given to women by many men that they are kind and nurturing, which they aren’t, and it should not be assumed women are more than selfish and entirely self interested people, as are most men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/24 09:18 PM
4	Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superior Just not used to hearing them admit it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/24 12:27 AM
4	Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superior So your decision is entirely physical? He could have cured cancer, saved your family’s life, done whatever you wish would happen (save the whales, etc) and still, too bad he isn’t physically hot?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/24 12:03 AM
8	Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superior Exactly. Never be a beast of burden to a thankless breeder.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/24 11:57 PM
1	Many women who complain that men only ever want one thing don't seem to offer much else That’s because we don’t benefit from degrees and your income generally speaking. No woman I’ve been with has ever spent on me even close to what I spent on her. They have spent their money on themselves, but most women don’t happily spoil their man financially in my experience. A random gift? A surprise trip? Does not happen. Of course personality matters and we all want someone who is a delight, but that is pretty rare in women when most of them don’t have any real hobbies or are well read and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/24 02:48 PM
9	If sex is the universal "carrot on a stick" for women, what would the male equivalent be? Unfortunately they are usually locked into a marriage at this point so they have to suffer massively financially to leave but yes I agree, sex is never a tool she gets to use against me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/24 06:27 PM
14	Relationships are not worth if sex rarely happen Because of how many douchebag men who are attractive stack women. Over and over. The women complain but keep sleeping with them. Why? Aren’t women supposedly more mentally mature than men? Go look up killer wade wilson and the thousands of letters from women he and the judge has received on his behalf. Gonna tell me he is a decent bloke? So he can literally kill women and still they line up yet a husband gets frozen out for not putting the dishes away… gee I wonder why.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 03:54 AM
–	Women who are thirty plus have a good amount of fertility left and if no man wants to start a family with them, they should have kids by themselves Because we don’t need more people. 8 billion and adding hundreds of millions every year. So why should women at the tail end of fertility push to breed when the chances of a special needs kid is astronomically higher? Adopt. There are tens of thousands of kids in the foster systems that need homes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/24 02:52 AM
10	What will happen once enough men get jaded from dating? Brutally honest take. We always have been, and shall always remain, the disposable sex valued only for what we produce.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/24 09:40 PM
1	There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effort Utter nonsense. Blacks and browns were slaves, not women, and don’t disrespect the suffering hundred of millions of them endured by claiming women were slaves. Women are breeders, they overwhelmingly want kids. In a world with no safe and easy office jobs nor daycare to dump your kids at, someone had to stay home and do the domestic work, so of course it’s going to be the weaker sex when the vast majority of jobs were still physical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/24 09:33 PM
8	There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effort The payoff for that effort is magnitudes higher for women than men, that needs to be factored into why they do it. If average men could get massive attention and life options from being trim and even somewhat fit, more would do it but the reality is it is not nearly as effective for men since it can’t change height, race, hairline or fundamental handsomeness. Let alone being attractive and feminine as a women will greatly help her secure a good husband that can provide her a great life, most lik…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/24 04:19 AM
2	The double standards around male standards Damn right. I am not attracted to women who aren’t good to me, who aren’t attractive to me, and who exhibit crappy behavior. Even if I initially was attracted to them physically it fades quickly. My continued sexual attraction needs to be earned and kept.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/24 06:29 PM
–	Have you witnessed the 80/20 thing for women IRL? You choose not to be that, that’s how. You don’t ever marry or have kids or cohabitate so there is never and vesting by a woman in your resources. Date, be exclusive, but keep it to where you are free to leave as is she without her taking a bunch of your money. Once you see it for what it is, it becomes much nicer. The only reason to date is enjoying each other company. Also be wary of any girl pushing for marriage that generally means she is tired of acting and wants to vest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 07:01 PM
1	Isn’t it immature and weird for a woman to be turned off by a man voicing his sexual desires first instead of physically trying them? Meh. When I like a girl I will have the sex talk with her where I lay out my needs and expectations and ask for hers. Frankly if she is into you she will be happy to engage, I’ve never had it go poorly in terms of having the conversation. I have had women not line up with what I expect and thus it was easier to end it rather after understanding we wouldn’t align well in that regard. I find this infinitely better than hoping she likes x or will do y.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/24 07:44 PM
8	What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age? Make his life better for being with you. It’s not hard. If you choose wisely he is going to love you and that love will compensate for your fading looks. The number of women that actually improve a man’s life today is shockingly low.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 02:37 AM
1	Most women don't even need to go through a "hoe phase" for the 80/20 dynamic to happen A relationship is not a yes or no check. There is a qualitative aspect we can’t distill to words. Many men who manage to get a relationship don’t have a good one. They are trying with someone not that into them, and they will not know that woman’s best efforts. That is because they weren’t her first choice. They were the backup because women benefit in relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 08:57 PM
1	Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices? Fair enough but I’ve seen many a woman have a mistake or do what it takes to get pregnant deceptively. It’s women usually pushing the breeding.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 02:34 AM
1	Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices? That has not been my experience. I never wanted kids. I tell every woman from the beginning. Every one of them except one says sure and agrees and then starts to get me to have a kid with them once the relationship progresses, and then we have to break up because I’m now wasting their time. Many men don’t care to have kids, far more them the few women who don’t. Women will loudly say they don’t want kids until they hit that magic 30 and suddenly they want a family. Well there is a price to be pa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 01:44 AM
2	Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices? Women choose to breed. They are often the ones pushing for children. With 8 billion of us we don’t need every women having kids yet everywhere you look they have kids even when they can’t afford to take care of them. So don’t take what you want and then use it as a justification for why you step back in a career.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/24 11:25 PM
1	No follow up after first date This. This is my standard. I always pay and plan dates. If a woman does not send me some sort of thank you did you get home safe (assuming I drove and dropped her off after the date) then that’s a clear message of poor manners and lack of interest. You don’t need to gush and ask for another date but you need to show basic kindness.	/r/RedPillWomen	21/07/24 04:21 PM
15	Is Chad generally blue pilled? Interesting comment. Chads don’t need to deal with these mindsets I would argue because women will give their best game to get and keep them and will even make excuses for their lack of interest. Women will break rules for chads - the rules that the normies try to navigate via red or blue pill mindsets.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 01:36 AM
6	Is Chad generally blue pilled? Well said. Chads can exist above the pill game so to speak, it’s the mid to lows that have to deal with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 01:33 AM
4	Is Chad generally blue pilled? Interesting. First of all the decent red pill guys are all saying get fit get your life sorted which is what you’ve done. That said, do you see if women are different with you compared to some of your less attractive buddies? Do you think a cute girl that shows interest in you is nothing special because it happens a lot? Red pill is more of a defensive thing, to keep guys who don’t get too many women from going crazy and putting them first, etc. for someone who constantly or easily can get women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 01:30 AM
0	Women like to use restaurant dates as a way to test a man's finances and, to a much lesser extent, their manners. It is beyond easy to display wealth while being broke. A nice dinner or two isn’t going to allow miss sherlock Holmes to crack the code. That said I like dinners because you can have a good discussion, face to face, and if you plan it in a good place it’s easy to extend the date with a walk or coffee if you are both feeling it. Now if she claims it’s not a fancy enough place, then she can go to hell.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/24 02:58 AM
3	Are My Hobbies Too Masculine? This doesn’t make sense to me. I’d lose my mind to have a woman actually into history and who has a few hobbies, and most men would be happy with someone who does both expect them to be all the entertainment. Like others said, there is more to this.	/r/RedPillWomen	13/07/24 05:16 PM
1	The Redpill and Bluepill are two sides of the same coin- both are equally gynocentric, just in different ways. The red pills does tell men not to be completely woman focused, but to focus on his life and building successes because that leads to a better life. If you do want a woman in today’s world, then making sure not to be blue pilled will help with that effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/24 03:06 PM
2	Provider mindset Boom goes the dynamite.	/r/RedPillWomen	04/07/24 12:41 AM
2	Q4M: What would you change about this woman's personality in order to date her? Do you think wanting a woman that weighs less than you as a man is an inflated standard?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 12:57 AM
0	Why do men say women who are objectively attractive are ugly/mid? So I must consider Scarlett attractive? Who are you to tell me that? Gotta love how people like you want to shut down any dissent or views that differ from yours. What is the psychology behind you expecting everyone find a specific someone attractive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 09:16 PM
2	What is your end game? Definitely and it easily lets you let things slide when it’s not an everyday thing. Let her do her weird stuff in her place, I do weird stuff in mine, we can have fun together knowing i can go back to my place set up my way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 02:57 PM
2	What is your end game? Living apart together.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 12:54 AM
0	What is your end game? No marriage, no cohabitation, and no kids. I would be happy to date exclusively someone long term in a LAT arrangement but I won’t let anyone ever vest in my resources ever again. Keeps both partners honest and trying when they know they can easily walk away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 12:43 AM
1	Most women can't seem to handle sexual rejection at all, either I’ve noticed in my ex and a few female coworkers that they truly assume men will have sex anytime with anyone, and they cannot be persuaded otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/24 11:40 PM
1	The sexuality of straight women is the driving force behind patriarchy This is an excellent observation. That said for about a century now society had negated the real value of a violent male on both the society level at large, and for obtaining resources in the working world. Why is it that women continue to select for those male traits?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 06:44 PM
–	Who Opposes No-Fault Divorce? It’s another way to break the strength of marriage. I agree that no one wants to stay with someone that wants out because its likely miserable, but at the same time, knowing you can’t just file for no reason does make people stop and think and maybe commit harder or be willing to do the work. With no fault you can walk away at the drop of a hat… that’s a difficult thing to avoid when things are tough and maybe worth saving.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/24 05:09 PM
28	If the RP ideas you subscribe to don’t work what’s your plan? For many people they arrived at their pill of choice from experience. They did what society expects (blue pill) and they got burned badly for it, so they opened their eyes. If RP does not work (I’ll play along) then I don’t have to do a thing because women will love me for me, they fall in love with their hearts and I simply need to be kind and patient and they will line up around the block for a good guy since they want a real relationship. Sweet!	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 02:04 AM
3	Are men upset that mothers will prioritize their children over their lover? Because the woman wants a man to help with her kid, but then is open about the kid being her whole world. Why would I sign up for that? The single moms will yell they aren’t looking for a stepdad but that is 100% what happens if they get into a relationship. No single mom is dating a guy for a year or more without him meeting her kids and socializing with them, and then as always he has to man up and be a real man, and start paying and helping. What a man in this situation would like to see is a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 08:33 PM
8	Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get married Their desire to have hot guys runs into their desire to have kids. Unless they are actually a high value woman, they won’t have gotten the typical guys they want to commit to them, so they shift to the good men to secure the resources for breeding. It’s not shifting it’s settling and that is supported by the high divorce initiated by women statistics we’ve all seen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 07:54 PM
13	Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get married Then why do the kinds of men they are interested change so much? Why are the good men only showing up on their radar when it’s time to have kids?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 07:52 PM
2	Manipulative, charming, uncaring, lying men get laid the most They aren’t bad at screening men, they enjoy what’s happening to them. They fully know what they are engaging with and want the fun and drama. Even when they are fake crying into their TikTok videos, they enjoy it because it’s better for them than being bored with a good man. It’s like cocaine. Everyone knows it’s not good for you but many folks take it for the high.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 07:26 PM
–	The idea that women put in more effort later on in the relationship isn't true. Agreed. I have never had a woman step up and do more in year three than she was doing in year one, for instance. I certainly was doing far more in terms of support and care. What had knocked the wind out of my dating sails, so to speak, is the realization of how little effort most women actually make in a relationship while complaining about not enough date nights or being bored.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/24 04:24 PM
–	What's your dating hot take? Something you believe from your own dating experiences that this sub would typically disagree with? Women are as shallow as men when it comes to looks and far more shallow than men when it comes to money and status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:38 PM
4	I think wealthy men do actually care about how much money a woman has They are if they are commingled into the marriage. So if the farmer didn’t keep everything separate, it comes in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 02:04 PM
15	I think wealthy men do actually care about how much money a woman has A successful man often may not care, as I never did in the past. But after suffering a massive payout in a divorce because she made far less than me, due to modern divorce law I won’t marry anyone that does not make and have what I have, if I were to ever marry again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 05:24 AM
2	It's unreasonable to assume that the average man will step in to help a woman in danger. I’ve done it in the past, won’t do it anymore. It can even be something benign like a flat tire, I no longer extend the courtesy of assistance to a woman unless she is elderly and there is something I can do to help. The chances it won’t be appreciated or will be met with hostility by modern women negates my desire to help and protect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/24 07:32 PM
–	Why do so many women love to suggest men “hate women” simply because they are frustrated with the horrific state of dating? Unfortunately they need us men to stop chasing and letting them be the way they are. Women don’t take from us, we keep giving them the attention and put up with them when they act poorly. Until that happens they will be the way they are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/24 06:20 PM
11	Would you hate even more the french dating scene ? The stereotype is French women cheat just as much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 08:10 PM
–	Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort. Think about dates in the beginning. The man is suggesting, planning, driving, paying. She shows up and enjoys. Shouldn’t at some point she do the same for him? Yet what I’ve experienced is my ex called me lazy when I didn’t want to do it all, all the time and wanted to see her make efforts as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/24 06:51 PM
–	Most relationships end because men take advantage of their partner and stop putting in effort. It dries up because the men who did all the work don’t get reciprocity. That has been my experience. Once you do the hard work, pay, plan, woo, sacrifice and care you hope to see some reciprocal effort on her part and most of the time, there isn’t any beyond being sexually available, and that isn’t enough. All the good stuff you reference in the beginning is men doing the vast bulk of the work. Notice that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/24 06:43 PM
–	For the men who believe having a high body count positively contributes to their status, how does it translate in reality? Women will be with high value men so your analysis has to start there. After that the more women one of them gets, the better they get at the game of flirting, being charming, and knowing how to be successful with different women and their slightly different personalities. Experience breeds confidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/24 02:03 PM
4	Which is harder? Stay-at-home Parent? Or sole-provider for a family? Provider is harder. It is harder because it is not a labor of love. Your boss and company don’t love you. You wouldn’t die for your company. You spend your day not with your loved ones but providing for them. You take crap at work and put in the extra hours to not get fired and to hopefully get promotions, all of which gets usually put into your family. Modern tech has also made the home care stuff much easier particularly with internet buying. By contrast we work more hours now than ever before…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/24 03:43 AM
2	Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women? Yup. It’s simple actually, be attractive and your attention is welcome. Be unattractive and your attention is not wanted. Everything flows from that, which is why you can’t look at the words or actions, look at how good looking is the guy doing it unless it’s an extreme thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 05:36 PM
5	Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women? Attention. That is what drives the beauty standard. Women get a ton of attention from being little children onwards and capture enormous attention from both men and women by keeping up their looks, which have also been their best way to secure mates and relationships, so it’s a perfect storm. Women compete with each other over looks as well. Most men don’t get much attention post childhood unless they are very attractive. So many men don’t put a ton of effort into their looks because there is no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 05:16 PM
2	Men only have importance to women as providers. Indeed. No marriage and no cohabitation ever again. I’ll date and that’s it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:02 PM
3	Men only have importance to women as providers. Not wrong. Many women obscure the reality but ultimately I’ve noticed when I got tired of providing far more in relationships than I received, and asked for more equal effort, the relationships ended. The most glaring and recent personal example was when I paid for 100% the house, more than half the utilities, and her health insurance. Her cost of living greatly improved since she was living for free. My cost of living doubled. Instead of being happy she yelled at me for not paying her college l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 05:57 PM
1	Why would women be jealous of a young woman getting married, if they want to ride the CC instead? Because there is still status in it for them. When I got engaged to my ex her best friend who loudly talked about never marrying her bf because he was a loser suddenly got a ring after seeing the one I got my ex. Boggled my mind particularly since they were both broke so it wasn’t a light purchase.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 11:57 PM
12	Why do red pillers completely leave out young women's preference when discussing "the wall" So women are stupid and need to be protected, or they are strong and independent and able to make their own choices. Pick one and be consistent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 07:48 PM
1	Is it hypocritical for an experienced man to want an inexperienced woman? Is it hypocritical for a low income woman to want a high income man?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/24 09:06 PM
5	Are more and more women choosing to stay single into their 30s? When they start running out of time to breed and need a beta to fund it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/24 10:08 PM
1	It's rare for a man to be with a woman who likes him for who he is as a human being instead of what he can provide. Agreed. I’ve sadly realized across multiple relationships that I’ve done far more for the woman than has ever been done for me. Looking back, none of my relationships made my life easier, or found myself getting spoiled by her, or deep interest in my passions and interests as I did for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/24 01:30 AM
5	Does it make sense to expect lust if you can’t authentically inspire lust? Does it make sense to expect your partner to fake lust for you if haven’t made explicit what they get in return? Well I want them to want to please me and I want to please them back. Raw lust might not be always available but a desire to make the person you love feel good? That should be there, that’s the sweet spot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/24 01:57 AM
2	If "Being An Asshole" Was All It Took To Get Women, Why Are So Many Assholes Single? Sorry should have said hot women. The old hot crazy meme that’s been around forever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 10:40 PM
4	You're focused on the wrong qualities that are triggering her lust: He's more attractive than you because he's more masculine, not because he's an asshole. It’s not dumb jocks don’t know any better. It’s fit and competent guy knows he is going to be well received by women since that has been his experience. He has the physical and status requirements met. Worst case scenario the girl giggles and declines. Smart guys generally aren’t going to be that attractive and their intelligence isn’t a desirable trait on a visceral level to young women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/24 09:52 PM
15	If "Being An Asshole" Was All It Took To Get Women, Why Are So Many Assholes Single? It’s not that women love assholes, it’s that only attractive and successful men can be assholes with women and still be successful. Same way that lovely women can get away with being crazy. No one is interested in a fat and frumpy ass of either sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 05:39 PM
27	Dating and being "older" And she is looking for a provider. Hot providers are an extremely rare thing and they will be dating younger in the pool if they are in her age range.	/r/RedPillWomen	19/02/24 09:10 PM
5	The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chances Most men are married because most women want the resources to breed and know they can leave and get mandatory child support, so it’s a win win for them. Not necessarily that they love the man. Also why divorce rates are so high and women majority file.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/24 04:52 PM
15	The Blue Pill didn't lie to you Women are as shallow as men when it comes to looks and more shallow then men when it comes to money and status. What women ‘want’ and what they respond to are very different. The blue pill does not tell men this. It tells them women love with their hearts, that you need to make her happiness your priority, to listen to her and share your feeling and be vulnerable, and that most male desires and motivations are selfish. It tells them women ‘find themselves’ in their 20s and when she is ready to s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/24 12:46 AM
2	What would it take to change your mind? Hard to answer because that means I would Have to do things I’ll never do again out of the blue pill mindset of putting her first. But it would be nice if it happened, the blue pill life is deeply comforting to many men and makes you believe in an idealized view of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 01:08 AM
5	What would it take to change your mind? Red pilled and nothing can change it because it is based on my personal experiences. Many red pilled men wish the blue pill ways was how the world works, but it isn’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/24 12:05 AM
–	Women dress provocatively for male attention Wearing something skin tight that highlight all your bits is a sexual display choice. Otherwise wear some loose jeans or sweats to be comfy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 08:50 PM
1	How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older? 30-35 gets you into your prime, your best years are still ahead of you thought the issue will always be how few quality women exist especially online. Just realize that if you do meet someone decent that will be great, but life is great even if you just stay solo and occasionally date. Don’t lower your standards it’s truly better to be alone than wish you were.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 06:28 AM
1	Why do men not tell other men to be vulnerable, AND, why do women tell men to be more vulnerable, en masse? It’s easy for the protected sex to tell everyone to open up and be vulnerable. That does not work for men. Unless it’s very specific places and among very close friends, opening up as a man just makes things worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 09:36 PM
1	Do you believe life is generally easier as a single person? Absolutely. My cost of living was doubled when I was married, i had to factor her in everything I did (like if i wanted to wash my car, I had to wash and details her too) and frankly, she didn’t do anything that made my life better. Her money never benefitted me. Being single I have so much more money, so much more time, and the ability to simply do what I want. It’s great.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 02:35 AM
2	Men are infinitely more forgiving towards women flaws yet women keep pretending men and women are on an even field with dating. Of course men are superficial. The issue is many men don’t realize women are just as shallow when it comes to looks and more shallow when it comes to status and money. That is what more average men need to learn so they don’t get taken advantage of by women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 07:14 PM
4	Are men accepting far less these days or has it always been like this? Sad but true that weak men let women exploit them. Better to be alone than be exploited but it takes, unfortunately, experience before most men realize this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/24 09:39 PM
5	Are men accepting far less these days or has it always been like this? I think many of them don’t know how it ends. Lots of men do this and learn the hard way these women will use them and leave them. Unfortunately we all think it will be different for us until we learn otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/24 09:38 PM
1	Dating vs Marriage Yup. I made three times what my ex made and despite covering most of the bills (like the entire mortgage, her health insurance, etc) I still paid out heavily on a divorce she initiated because she got bored. I will never lose my ability to walk away ever again. I saw clearly (looking back) how she changed once I couldn’t just walk away. No marriage, no cohabitation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/23 05:55 AM
1	What is a the bitter truth for men about dating over 30 Agreed it’s definitely not but it’s a very good defense against a woman getting bored and thinking she can do better compared to other metrics like income, unfortunately.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 07:28 PM
0	What is a the bitter truth for men about dating over 30 There are valid points you make if a woman is focused more on a good husband and father that is a good thing for the non chads. That used to be a big metric for women. The problem now is as easy as access to men is for them she can select you for your BB skill set and then leave after she had bred and secured access to your resources, as shown by the fact the majority of divorces are filed by women. So the reality of today has unfortunately driven men to rely ever more on sexual attraction as th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 04:52 PM
4	He doesn’t want children. Did I fail to inspire him? Men who don’t want kids, like me, don’t want them period by choice. Not due to a defect in you. I’ve had multiple women try even though I’ve been clear about not wanting to breed. Time for you to move on and try to meet someone before things get harder for you. Good luck.	/r/RedPillWomen	11/12/23 11:58 PM
-6	He isn't masculine and it's getting me down Did you tell him you were scared? It’s no big deal to come down a ladder so he might have not realized you needed to be extra assured.	/r/RedPillWomen	11/12/23 10:00 PM
4	Getting eaten out for the first time True but it’s an outstanding book that helps understand the entire situation and how to approach it. Men need a blueprint for success and to build competence. It’s very difficult to just figure it out in the moment.	/r/RedPillWomen	04/12/23 06:12 PM
-4	I think many men want single women to be miserable because it gives them a sense of importance. I’ve rejected multiple women in their mid to late 30s who wanted to have kids who reached out to me despite my profile saying no kids. Nope, not interested in having a kid with a woman that old, she had her chance to breed a decade earlier and had other priorities, to put it politely. It’s not about a woman can’t look nice in her 40s. It’s about women well past their prime who now want kids and the beta bucks man needed to fund them, men she ignored for decades. Men she will never truly love and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 09:23 PM
1	4 things I feel men should always remember. You misread my statement. She can choose to have it or abort it with zero rights or objections from the man, and that means that even if he wants nothing to do with it and didn’t want the child she can get child support by law. So sex is a more dangerous thing for a man than a woman since she has sole decision making power over what happens post sex, is a fertilization occurs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:24 AM
4	4 things I feel men should always remember. Women no longer have far more to lose when it comes to sex. They have complete and sole control over whether to have the kid or not, they get child support by law, and they have dismantled all the shame that once came from being promiscuous, or being a single mom. If anything, it’s men that now have more to lose from sex since they have no rights once the sperm leaves their body.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 12:19 AM
1	"Just work on yourself bro, your career and hobbies bro!" Mfs acting like being a wage slave and consooming products replaces actual bonds of love and companionship with other human beings Yup. My job is not to entertain some average looking woman who is boring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 06:45 PM
17	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Yup. It’s also financial. Hence why they actually like older men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 10:16 PM
1	The real truth about women and nice guys Because maybe they would realize that feeling or desire ain’t worth chasing. I want to eat nachos everyday but I can’t because I need to fit in my pants. Women aren’t realizing their desires and harmful to their needs when it comes to men. That’s the hope, that more of them hear this because they certainly ain’t hearing it from society, their feminist friends, or social media.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 09:44 PM
18	How do I help my husband who is obsessed with his muscles/body? It’s a good obsession and hobby. Better than him turning into mush while working to support you. Would you be happy if he came home and gamed eating Cheetos for a couple hours a day? Step up by committing to making the foods and drinks he wants, show some interest in what he is working on, and consider joining him in the journey.	/r/RedPillWomen	15/11/23 07:17 PM
2	Does a woman’s sex drive really play a big part in their dating life/success? Difference between sex and intimacy. Do you want and like lots of intimacy like cuddling, or just not interested in touch and just want the mental stimulation of conversation? In any event do be clear on your bio to help guide potential partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 02:52 PM
3	The problem with stepdads is that most of the time these women wouldn't date them if they didn't have kids Deep down women deeply like men capable of violence. It’s what makes them feel safe and protected. A rough and disagreeable man will kill, crush and destroy for her - that is what arouses them, even if not what they want in a partner. So a refined and polite man while a terrific partner in todays world is not going to arouse her. It’s a question of arousal over attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 06:45 PM
22	Sex is truly the key 🔐 Intimacy is proof of affection to men, and a good man will look to reciprocate with affection.	/r/RedPillWomen	13/11/23 10:18 PM
8	What makes a woman classy? It isn’t tattoos, walking around half naked, swearing, being loud and attention seeking.	/r/RedPillWomen	10/11/23 07:27 PM
5	Is sex, then attention the most important thing to women? Not my experience. What I see is she becomes used to the attention and wants more. She gets bored in the bedroom even if she is put first because the novelty wears off. Many women, particularly attractive ones, are addicted to attention and unfortunately it’s not enough for an addict to get it from just one source, in this case one man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 03:50 PM
1	Men should always assume a woman is not interested unless proven otherwise In theory a man would wait on a choosing signal or two to justify a cold approach but otherwise I assume they aren’t interested in being disturbed by a stranger.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/23 06:13 PM
12	Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for men In order to be successfully promiscuous a man would have to be really good with women or have zero standards. Assuming the former it means he is either great looking, or has great personality, money or status. So he is the kind of guy that arouses women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/23 05:42 PM
2	Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for men At the core never be an open book to a woman. Men want that, women don’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/23 04:05 PM
14	Honesty is the kryptonite of sexual success for men Of course not because that shows he has been selected in the past. It’s social proof of his ability to get women, to other women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/23 04:03 PM
4	All of men's dating issues are caused by men True. Sad but true. We men have to accept that unless you are a chad or make great money and are willing to be a beast of burden, stop chasing women. Focus on yourself, get a life built around hobbies, friends and family and maybe a few women will come your way, but don’t expect it and don’t think modern women make for a fulfilling life. Women can only take from you what you freely give. Stop giving it away for free.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/23 02:30 AM
7	What is the main reason men are single 2023 Yup. Then if you are successful trying to meet one that makes at least close to what you make makes it darn impossible. Granted my ex said the only reason I am successful is because I’m male even though I somehow worked far harder than she did so clearly I can’t have that standard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 03:49 PM
24	What is the main reason men are single 2023 Yup. My ex would taunt me about calling the cops and how they would automatically believe her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 03:28 PM
17	Is it unreasonable to want a provider, but to not want kids? Many guys out there that would welcome this who want a traditional relationship but not interested in kids.	/r/RedPillWomen	15/10/23 08:06 PM
2	You can't say you we're lied to. Agreed. Women are as shallow as men when it comes to looks and more shallow than men when it comes to status and money. Every guy needs to understand that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/23 06:27 PM
7	Men are so afraid to be settled for because they know they are settling themselves He is talking extremes but the point is valid. A woman that hooked up with lots of chads requiring little to no effort from them but then wanting lots of attention and resources from a man, expecting him to woo her like she is a prize, and giving him less while he does more. That is what men don’t want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/23 03:16 PM
0	Why SHOULDN'T I treat marriage like a job? It’s how most marriages used to be and I think if you did that the affection and love would slowly bloom if you are both good to each other. People are quick today to trust in initial feelings when enduring relationships are built on enduring actions, not feelings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/23 09:31 PM
0	A big deal about dating is that it feels like work for men, and work is never fun! Well said. I’ve gone through this repeatedly where I slowly realize I’m doing all the work, all the paying, spending my time on her in a lopsided manner. All that work becomes something we men regret when she leaves for no or any reason. You didn’t build any equity in the relationship, so to speak. Makes you feel like a fool for doing as much as you did, and foolishly accepted so little back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/23 06:04 PM
10	Quick thought, men don't have instant beauty tricks and it makes it harder for them! Very few of them are achievable in 20 minutes sitting in front of a mirror with some chemicals, and the payoff is way, way lower. A woman can doll herself up and get tons of attention. If a average dude dolls himself up a few women he knows might comment but realistically nothing changes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 10:03 PM
-1	Should a woman who has lost significant amounts of weight give men who did not want her a chance after weight loss? Kinda hard to have an affair without a job and it’s income considering how women look at resources.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 06:38 PM
2	What does TRP make of the fact that so many women selflessly take care of their Ill and disabled husbands? Because they don’t anymore in the way they might have in times past. Our world is littered with stories of women walking away from average men in hard times because they now have options. Pointing to individual honorable instances does not negate today’s overall picture. Sure it’s wives and daughters in the hospitals because the men are working and providing for their families and often cannot take time off. In your specific example Emma likely may have been a good woman but she was also receivi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/23 02:23 PM
0	What does TRP make of the fact that so many women selflessly take care of their Ill and disabled husbands? If women are easy to keep then why do they file the majority of divorces? That’s the issue for men, women are the ones who leave for any or no reason and win prizes on their way out the door. Most men will tell you that the women demand more over time, not less.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/23 01:50 PM
1	If a female physically assaults a male, should the male react differently than he would if a male assaulted him? Equality demands a equally administered beat down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/23 12:58 AM
-4	Fearing reaction from my mom after telling her that my boyfriend is Arab Arabs are a people and Muslims are followers of Islam, a religion. The two are not the same. That’s like saying all Italians are catholic. While the majority may be, not all are. In regards to op if he is not religious then he won’t care and you can talk about it and any kids and how he feels about religion for them. I’m Asian and not religious and would have been fine with my wife being Christian and raising kids as Christian.	/r/RedPillWomen	27/09/23 09:32 PM
2	If you were to move in with a guy that makes significantly more than you, would you be okay with splitting household expenses roughly 50/50? How is he cheap if he is acting equally? Why would you insult him by calling him cheap for expecting you to contribute equally? It is sexiest to expect him to pay more for expenses you certainly consume. If you want him to pay more bills then offer to do more housework or make more money, or do you expect things for free just because you are female?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 03:38 PM
2	Reciprocating in early dating Time, effort or money. Those are the three bags one of which everyone has. I’ve been this way with all my women and what I want in return is effort and time spent showing affection. Like others said a home cooked meal, planning a nice out where you insist on covering it and planning it… match his energy. Obviously snuggles and affection are easy and simple options too. What turned me off over time was when I didn’t see any efforts. I had made the effort and shown her how active I was willing to …	/r/RedPillWomen	22/09/23 10:09 PM
26	Will men find it a turn off that I am a quiet home body who doesn’t have many friends? A quiet and content homebody is ideal for many men, myself included. That said if you are chasing chads they are not going to be the type to spend most of their time at home.	/r/RedPillWomen	21/09/23 07:44 PM
–	Women are becoming accepting of their own averageness yet desire above average in men more than ever before Nothing. It’s the flip side of this new reality, men are no longer getting controlled into marriage with one woman and stuck with her while she ages. While average men will accept that deal, the hvm no longer need to play that game and can truly play and have fun until they are older and just want comfort, at which time there are plenty of options available to him who want to breed and will accept his offer. So it’s the haves getting even more and the have nots getting less.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 05:40 PM
1	I feel like the red pill teaches the right things for the wrong reasons It’s about maximizing yourself as a man first and foremost for your own enjoyment. Most of the good commentators don’t say do this solely to get women, but as many men want one, it applies naturally to the pursuit of one. Unhappy men are going to seek out advice and come across the red pill content and it’s a good lesson for them not dissimilar to what a good father would say; work hard, be disciplined, take care of yourself. The added red pill tint warns and helps men not to become beasts of bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 03:54 PM
23	best friend set me up with a guy and now is angry that I'm dating other people along the side even though I informed her beforehand A great example of how dating used to be and how it is now. She recommended you to someone in her social circle and put her relationships on the line for you. That barely happens anymore. Instead of taking it as a serious opportunity to focus on after a week of good communication you don’t even slow down and went out on a second date that same day? Holy cow. If I heard a woman I went on another date right after seeing me, literally showering (hopefully) and getting dressed to go meet another man…	/r/RedPillWomen	17/09/23 03:34 PM
1	I broke his trust The moment he didn’t do what you wanted you went off to get attention for a couple other men? Glad he got to see the real you sooner than later.	/r/RedPillWomen	15/09/23 09:09 PM
2	Men.....You Should Do Everything You Can To Win Ultimately improve to enjoy your life, not just to get the privilege of dating down since men have to date down to date at all. Working out will feel good, lots of money will make hobbies fun. Pride comes from success. You are right men need to do not sit and talk but do it for many personal reasons that are far more important than a below average woman who knows you are easily replaceable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/23 07:07 PM
1	Many Women seem to not understand their own sexuality What women say rarely lines up with their actions. The core problem is female want and female need are diametrically opposed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/23 07:49 PM
25	Lost a High-Value Man Take a step further, I see it as dangerous to be with someone like that long term. They believe in what I consider to be absolute hogwash, as would many highly educated people. What happens when a card reading tells her to leave or she needs to do something because the tea leaves never lie? No logical argument is going to matter in those situations.	/r/RedPillWomen	13/09/23 07:33 PM
3	Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I mean Well said. That’s the big damage from the loss of men spaces, it’s hard for men to make and keep friends when most of them marry and turn inward. Out of the dozen close friends I had in college only a couple remain a couple decades later. One of the few men’s spaces left is gaming and you can see how common anti-gaming comments are posted here by women. It takes a good circle of male friends to provide support, respect and affection for their fellow brothers, and it is so hard to get and keep th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 11:03 PM
14	Your SO is not willing to do something sexual with you that they've done in the past The ultimate red flag for a man. It speaks to a lack of genuine sexual attraction and the lack of desire to please. They should be willing to do some compromise with you be it a schedule or some effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 04:51 PM
1	Men's complaints about the state of dating all come down to this one inconvenient truth... Disagree. This would mean men are worse today than previous generations, which is not the case. Women have had their provider needs for a man greatly reduced, so they now get to be as shallow as men when it comes to looks while having the luxury to be more shallow when it comes to status and income. Then the online world has let them cast their net globally so that it is easy for them to get attention and meet met from a vastly larger pool than ever before. Finally, OLD heavily favors looks and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 12:16 AM
2	Older childfree women are rarely miserable Big difference between childless by choice and childless because they wouldnt commit to a man and didn’t want to go the single mom route. I’ve had multiple women in their late 30 and early 40s want to breed with me. I would think if they age out then they will always regret losing that chance. Flip side is the childless by choice women are great though in my personal experience there was other issues with them that partially caused their desire not to breed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 07:03 PM
4	Men should just refuse to get married The law sees you differently meaning you can’t get at his assets as just a girlfriend. So being with him isn’t enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 06:08 PM
1	Theres a 'wall' for men as well, the wall of incompetence, where you fall behind in comparison to your peers and men your age Every major red pill person I’ve heard or read talks extensively about the burden of performance for men and that you need to work hard on all aspects of yourself in order to engage with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 09:15 PM
1	What is the goal in consuming RP dating content? No. A nice guy will offer his services and spend money and time hoping to win her heart. Help her move, listen to her she is sad, take her out. Be there for her. They end up doing boyfriend stuff because they have the blue pulled belief she will love him once he proves himself. Bad boys, true fboys just show up, or put in a fraction of the effort… and women will flock to them, then come here to complain when he ghosts them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 08:26 PM
1	What is the goal in consuming RP dating content? If you are young then yes it’s fine waiting since life is new and the woman isn’t experienced. That isn’t the type of woman we are discussing. Most women have been sleeping around by their mid 20s and have chased the chads for years and failed to keep one. Now they see the big 30 looking and ‘mature’ and become ready for a ‘real’ relationship which is just finding a beta chimp to underwrite her desire to breed. Those guys, the fools that think they won a prize by towing the blue pill path are th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 08:23 PM
1	What is the goal in consuming RP dating content? The end result is to protect myself. The content needs to be said and repeated because a man will falter in the presence of a pretty girl. So instead of believing the falsehoods spread about women by women ( from which women benefit) a man can see by her actions and not words what the real situation is between them. Women’s behavior may well not change but a red pill message will help ensure men don’t become beasts of burden to a breeder who settled for him and has no real desire for him. It hel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 05:35 PM
7	What is the goal in consuming RP dating content? Yes they can. It’s being tricked by the message that you should respect her by not pushing for intimacy and wait until she is ready. It sets up the men that listen to thst nonsense to become betas thinking their good deeds and kindness and patience generate her attraction. Then the message piles on and wants to call him a pig for having desires or not putting her first. Those are the saps that realize they had to work for what she gave chad with zero effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 05:30 PM
2	“A man has never picked a woman based on how hard she worked to get into a relationship with him.” A woman working hard is showing genuine attraction which is the gold standard assuming it’s not just an older women desperate to have a kid and looking to lock down a provider. Might take a guy a couple relationships to figure that out. That said she needs to be at least decent looking in comparison to the hotter one. Very little a 3 can do to pull a man away from an 8.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/23 09:48 PM
1	If women want high status rich men, then why do poor people often have the highest birth rates? Children are resources in a poor country while they are a massive resource drain in rich countries, particularly for well to do people that fund expensive activities and schooling. You will notice the immigrants that shift to rich countries reduce their offspring over a couple of generations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 10:24 PM
1	Do you think men's fashion really matters in attraction? I figure women are so into clothes and shoes they will at least pay attention to what a man wears, right? Sure being fit is always most important but being dapper can’t hurt and it’s also a chance for a man to show off some finery like a nice watch to show their earning or wealth capacity. Now excuse me while I don my cargo shorts and sketchers lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 09:03 PM
1	I don’t like that my boyfriend is a gamer. Why. Say why don’t just throw up a vague complaint. Is it because you don’t like him giving attention to something other than you? Is it because he ignores his job and responsibilities? As a hobby it’s safe, he is home not out, and you should be happy it’s not something expensive or dangerous like motorcycles.	/r/RedPillWomen	24/08/23 04:19 PM
-1	Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women? How is your typical attempt to shame me relevant to the discussion? The OP asked why a woman would leverage her prime and I provided answer as to why it is in her benefit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/23 12:45 AM
3	Why would a woman marry young if her husband will eventually end up lusting after younger women? She marries in her prime to secure resources for herself and to breed. That’s why. By leveraging her looks at their best she can find the best man she can secure. Basic self interest. If she is a good woman and brings more to the relationship than just those looks like being a supportive wife and good mother, then the man if he is decent will stay with her and be content to age with her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 06:06 PM
2	How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies? That is not what the OP asked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 02:43 PM
6	How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies? The real answer is to not spend too much time with any one woman. No matter how funny you are, familiarity breeds contempt. The best relationships I have had are when we saw each other on weekends and maybe dinner during the week. Then there is space and time for her to miss you, and you can continue to do the stuff and hobbies that she found attractive in you to begin with. Spend 24-7 with a woman outside of the honeymoon phase and watch her desire and interest in you fade.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 09:04 AM
0	Men have allowed modern dating to become how it is by never refusing to date women, no matter how bad her past/heavy her baggage. Because they have less time, money and attention to pay to you. Their children come before you do you are a lower priority than in a childless relationship. There may be daddy drama when he finds out she is seeing someone. The kids may be hostile to you since their dad is not happy you are in her life. The biggest turnoff for a woman is the presence of her kids, and if she has them, they will be there most of the time. I experienced all of this when I was with a single mom. Now that single moms …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 09:36 PM
1	Why is the sub have at least some men telling women what they are attracted to? I am saying that the bad guys openly show their violent abilities whereas a woman needs to find and figure out if the nice guy is that way. So small minded women will be attracted to the bad guys. It is not that the bad guy is bad, it is his demonstration of his ability to physically protect that triggers the desire.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 07:11 PM
1	Why is the sub have at least some men telling women what they are attracted to? I’m saying that the universal female desire for protection via a man capable of violence is most easily discernible in the bad guys you mention. That is women flock to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 06:10 PM
2	Why is the sub have at least some men telling women what they are attracted to? What women say and what they do differs. That said all women want a man that is willing to be violent to defend her and her kids. All of them. Not one woman wants a man that takes a knee or runs away leaving her and her kids. Physical displays of violence and toughness are harder to show for men today but it is apparent in bad guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 05:37 PM
2	"just be skinny" doesn't work Incorrect. I have as a middle aged man dated women with great figures but with a borderline ugly face. The body is what you really interact with. I would rather have a plain woman with a nice figure than a beautiful face on a fat body. I’ve tried dating the latter and the attraction simply isn’t there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/23 09:10 PM
-2	What would a society in which all men are red-pilled look like? The world would better because it would stop the simping. It’s not about the men at the top they will always win. It’s about the men in the middle and below. They are the ones that labor under delusions about what women are like. These men today don’t realize the truth until they get used and abused by women. If they go into life knowing reality they will vet potential partners much better, they will not freely sell their time and money to undeserving women, and they will know that women don’t l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/23 07:50 PM
1	Q4M: If “settling” is bad, why should women “lower their standards” and “be less selective/picky”? Because it’s not settling when it comes to most women it’s them recognizing their actual level and be realistic as to who they can have a long term relationship with. Their self worth has been inflated by current dating trends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/23 12:21 PM
1	Except for gym, i don't see TRP helping men get laid, at least honestly. Being successful helps everything. Women will be quick to claim money does not matter to look socially good but they are just pretending it does not matter. No woman would prefer a cheap meal over a nice one all things being equal. Being successful also helps men value themselves more because succeeding builds confidence and confidence is not only attractive but it’s a good defensive armor when things go bad. The most dangerous thing for a man is when his woman is the only good thing, or the bes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/23 07:04 PM
5	Would you use male birth control? Absolutely if safe and effective. It would be great for men to be able to control their reproduction in that way	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/23 04:53 PM
1	Q4M - an average looking girl is DESPERATE to date you. How do you feel about it? I have had that a few times and it is lovely but I knew they wanted kids for most of those scenarios, that is what was driving their intense desire.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/23 03:12 PM
2	Why do women keep children by men who don’t want to be fathers ? Women want kids. That’s why. They will tell you 100 excuses but at the end of the day they chose to keep it and have it because they wanted it. They know they can get state benefits and mandatory child support.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/23 06:43 PM
3	Do you know any red pillers in real life? Are they sexually successful? Like many said, you don’t walk around in a tshirt shouting slogans. I am red pulled after bad life experiences. I am not a chad. When I have been following a red pill path i did indeed spin about 3 plates, had fun, didn’t put myself into potentially bad situations. People come on and out, and I was clear on what I expected and if she didn’t accept that, it faded away naturally. Two way street. Dated some for awhile. Life was pretty nice. Like I said I’m not a chad and fact is none of these women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/23 03:58 PM
2	Doing household chores do not make men sexually attractive, but they're still important for a relationship There is an argument that the one making way more is likely working a much harder job that is more stressful. Realistically they are also likely working more hours. Equality would dictate the other spouse do more if that extra income is going to provide for them collectively.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 03:54 PM
1	What are the benefits of marriage for women? They get the use and benefit of the protection and resources of their husband and the ability to breed knowing they have vested in the husbands resources regardless of their actions. They get to leave when they want for any reason. They get to have their wedding day. They get a nice ring. Marriage is extremely beneficial to women which is why so many of them get married and then later file for divorce.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 06:22 PM
5	Isn't the "Red Pill" supposed to be a harsh truth, yet it seems incredibly easy to believe? It’s not about blaming the world, it’s about seeing it as it really is and accepting the burdens of performance necessary to succeed in it. It’s a pro male mindset in that it tells men to work hard, to invest in themselves and their lives, regardless of how poor a hand you’ve been dealt. It’s also harsh but men need that. It tells you about female nature and to not believe the one sided narrative pushed everywhere. It’s not anti female, it’s pro male, and very much needed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 12:54 AM
1	CMV: This Medium Article from a middle-aged female author asking 'Where are all the good men' perfectly explains men's dating complaints I’ve been with multiple women in their late 30s and their early 40s wanting kids with me. They know thanks to fertility drugs they can still have a shot let alone IVF.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/23 11:14 AM
7	CMV: This Medium Article from a middle-aged female author asking 'Where are all the good men' perfectly explains men's dating complaints Holy hell brother this is a wonderful essay. You described by ex wife who became physically and emotional abusive to me as she did exactly what you describe initially until I had lost frame and tried to build my life around her at which point the awfulness began. Thank you for writing this and taking the time to analyze the emotions. It’s true, it was intoxicating to think I was hot to her, a straight up cute woman. It triggered my desire to provide and protect and sacrifice my identity on a alt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/23 02:58 PM
3	CMV: This Medium Article from a middle-aged female author asking 'Where are all the good men' perfectly explains men's dating complaints So much window dressing by those women to make themselves look mature and wise. Fact is they chased guys out of their league and couldn’t nail them down. Now they can’t compete and need a nice guy to breed and use, never really loving or being attracted to him. At least now men are starting to realize this thanks to so many men telling their tales. I went through this and never again. I refuse to be a beast of burden to older woman who are desperate to breed. They made their choices and now it’s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/23 02:26 PM
3	Question about older women That sounds just fine but the reality of social media and OLD negates most of these types of women existing. She can sit on her phone and get plenty of attention and dates, and become spoiled for choice without having to be out and about, or even have much in the way of social skills. Yes I’d love to meet someone like that but they are exceptionally rare.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/23 09:38 PM
1	The principles of the manosphere are based on a just-world fallacy It’s more male focused not about female shaming. A woman that has been around has a lower chance of being content with an average joe, since she clearly didn’t pick one in her prime. So if you are an average joe, being with one is a bad choice with todays divorce rates and the majority of those divorces filed by women. You aren’t getting a woman that might truly love you and wants to build a life with you, you are getting a woman who couldn’t land the guys she really wanted and is just looking a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/23 05:44 PM
–	Spend insignificant money on a girl until after she is sexually productive. Reciprocity based on incomes seem best. I agree leading with cheese just attracts rats but it’s hard not to want to show enthusiasm by spending a bit. So while you may want to do that, at least see if she is making efforts back in what ways she can. Just don’t let it be a one sided thing where you give and she takes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 05:29 PM
61	Women don't want 'fuckboys' , but they aren't attracted to men who don't the capabilities to be one Well said. The main problem with women, for men, is that generally what they need and what they are attracted to are diametrically opposed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/23 05:13 PM
3	Men in western society should reject marriage Agreed. If you talk to older couples you will see the common theme is they stuck it out in bad times. They did this because they needed each other and society did not make it easy to leave. That has been eliminated now and women in particular know and are told they can leave with no shame or judgment, they can take resources from the man for themselves or their kids, and there will be plenty of men ready to give them the tingles in the way someone you’ve been with for years cannot. Bad times? Ti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/23 04:31 PM
1	Men in western society should reject marriage So just be the safe provider she needs ( not mysterious) and the attractive and mysterious man she sexually wants (not safe) while making sure she never gets bored by constantly being interesting and funny even though life itself gets boring and predictable for any adult with a job and family. Ignore the fact that she can win prizes if she leaves, while every outlet tells her she is s prize and deserves better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/23 04:11 PM
0	Men in western society should reject marriage Not even a close comparison. First it’s marriage so it’s the risk of a husband, not a general man, assaulting. Second, the law favors women in those situations so it’s easy for a woman to get a protection order, get the police involved, kick the man out of a shared home, and then leverage that offense in a divorce. The issue for men in marriage is they are the ones that will suffer more, and stats show women are the primary spouse choosing divorce. They are the ones filing because they can easil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/23 03:58 PM
5	How would you feel about your gf losing weight/having a glow up while with you? If one partner dramatically improves, it puts the relationship in potential jeopardy. Yes it sounds nice that you get to enjoy a more attractive partner but often that means they may start wanting more validation from others, particularly if they haven’t looked as good during your time with them. I think this applies to both sexes but with women it’s particularly hard since so many men and women will flood her with compliments if she is active on social media and she may get hit on far more IRL.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 04:27 PM

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