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Men don't respect women who approach Where are you getting this from? Go on r/askmen or r/askreddit and you'll find a fucking CAVALRY of men who would be absolutely flattered if a woman approached them...even if said man wasn't ultimately attracted to this woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:07 PM
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On average? No they really don't, at least not normally. I'm not saying that there are no women who approach. But, on average? They're a statistical minority
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:51 AM
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At the very least, women approaching means women would finally understand the struggle of most men No, it wouldn't? Not even remotely true At the same time, men would also finally understand how it feels to be approached by someone you aren't interested in Yeah, I wish most men were that self-aware and emotionally intelligent We aren't, lets be real. Also, there's the fact that men find more women attractive than women find men attractive...if that makes sense. I hope that wasn't complete gibber…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:49 AM
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It happens. People do cold approach randoms. It isn't a fictional occurrence. Once again, I'm not arguing the morality of it, or whether or not it's stupid or braindead. It's simply a thing that happens in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:40 AM
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Attractive men would still have to worry about having money, or at worst unemployed with no car. That's fair, I can agree with that. 'Hobosexuals' are a thing, but, even amongst 'attractive' men, they aren't common. I'll give you that one And also this may sound random. a Attractive men would still have to be 100 percent straight. Since women would still get ick at bisexual men or bi curious men. I can't say for sure whether or not that's true, I don't have enough information to form an opinion …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:39 AM
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It's a combination of both. Confidence without anything to back it up is delusion and arrogance. Just because you think of yourself one way, or believe something to be true about yourself...doesn't make it so, and fake it 'till you make it doesn't always apply universally
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:36 AM
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You're talking about a marginal difference at best. Let's not sit here and pretend as if attractive men were in any position of disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:32 AM
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And who's fault is that? Women still watch, enjoy and even participate in writing scripts and episodes for many of these shows and films...it isn't like women unilaterally don't - at best - passively enforce these tropes and cliches and - at worst - actively spout them. You should look at the outcry when they paired Rosie O'Donald with a clearly looks matched husband But yet it's still one of the most well-known and remembered sitcoms in modern American history, loved by both men and women, even…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:31 AM
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If they were only approaching dudes for casual sex. Yeah it would just be another tinder or night club where only the Chads get the action. But for long term relationships the dynamic is very different. They would approach guys closer to their looksmatch. I don't think it would be any different. What would motivate these women to approach their looksmatch more deliberately and intentionally when they're looking for LTR as opposed to a hookup? How is the dynamic that much more different that it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:21 AM
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In the age of online dating, you are correct. But, there are some places, I think (hypothetically speaking) where people aren't completely immersed in online dating Exactly, hypothetical. I mean, the death of the 'Third Place' has been a huge talking point in modern sociology, especially in the years since COVID. Those places exist, sure, but they're becoming increasingly more sparse and increasingly more expensive to regularly participate in. In those places, it would help if taking the initiat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:16 AM
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Have you read anything you've written ITT? It reeks with bitterness and derision. I can't even take your responses seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:09 AM
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"I don't want to debate responses to my debate post" lmao No, I'm not interested in wasting time responding to drivel. I've been engaging with plenty of people on here; you're just the only one arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:08 AM
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The thing about it is, I don’t think that most men not being approached or that way because of something genetic that they can’t change I think it plays more of a role than we care to admit. Some people are just naturally better looking (even if Chris Hemsworth or Henry Cavill wore rags they'd still be drowning in women. I mean Henry Cavill literally was in dirty clothes with an unkempt beard for 1/4 of Man of Steel), more charismatic and just more attractive in general. Your voice, your presenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:04 AM
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Her entire argument is based on her own made-up strawmen and bitterness towards any rhetoric that presents even a sliver of criticism towards women, regardless of whether or not it's warranted or observational.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:59 AM
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Oh no I agree. Men get to determine that unilaterally for women and their judgement and opinions are objective truth. What? Again, derisively responding to strawmen and misrepresenting shit. You aren't even trying to argue in good faith Yes yes, this is definitely a reality check given to men all the time. I mean it is...why do you think the concept of Looksmaxxing started? Do you think that manifested out of a void? I'm not responding to this drivel. I can tell you've already lost the plot. Goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:57 AM
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I think the issue is a lot of men feel bitter because they've been led to and taught to believe that women are less shallow about physical appearance than men more emotionally intelligent better at discerning bad potential partners more open minded about their preferences, which sort of bleeds into the first point I mean look at how many dumbass comedy movies and sitcoms feature the average/schlubby looking husband and the unreasonably and unusually gorgeous wife? It's practically a meme at this…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:53 AM
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No, because we'd "quickly realize our league" like men do and adjust our standards lower until we pursue our "looksmatch," who would obviously accept and treat us like queens cause that's just what looksmatches do. The only men who treat women poorly are men "out of our league." I mean, are we going to sit here and pretend as if women don't have superinflated egos and unrealistic standards? Everyone needs a reality check, women aren't above reproach. We already tell men plenty that they're fat, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:42 AM
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This is a good way to frame it. Speed dating events and bars could be a decent little social microcosm to observe and see how it may look on a more macro scale
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:38 AM
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Are we really still having this debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:41 PM
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You act as if plenty of women don't also vote that way and support these policies... It isn't solely men that vote for this shit. I'd also remind you that there are a not insignificant number of men who do fully support women's reproductive rights WOMEN DON'T BLAME MEN CHALLENGE: IMPOSSIBLE
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:41 PM
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It's important to note that a lot of men that claim to be 'MGTOW' are actually 'MSTOW' - or 'men SENT their own way'. This has been posited by many and I don't disagree with it. I have a hard time believing that men who are successful with women decide to be MGTOW...because, why the fuck would they be? Especially if they're benefitting, regardless of how shitty women can be sometimes (not as if men are perfect flowers, either. Far, FAR from it). A lot of these guys are just bitter and angry and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:37 PM
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Hard disagree. Some dudes out there genuinely do not give a fuck about their hygiene or how they look. I agree. It's pretty hilarious, because, like another user pointed out, some of these guys are legit losers with very little to offer, and they can't even be f*cked to do basic things like...shower regularly and wear decent, clean, fitting clothing. They're just using mental gymnastics to justify not having to do any of those things and continue being a lazy, fat, out of shape slob. That turns …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:34 PM
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Gotcha. It must be some sort of cultural difference or something, because in America those guys would be absolutely cooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:28 PM
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Yeah, I'm not buying that at all. Are you from America?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:26 PM
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Ok, so what you're saying is your friends are conventionally attractive? Their study/career focus during their early adulthood hasn't been a hinder. If anything it's made them more attractive than average Ok, well if what you say is true then your male friends have to be attractive physically. Because, I can tell you right now, that would not be the case for the overwhelming majority of average joes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:22 PM
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I’ve known some single middle aged men who were weird but I wouldn’t say it was because they were single. Perhaps not, but being single most certainly didn't help at all. If anything, it's neutral at best As far as the zero-tolerance policy is concerned, I would have to consult the hive mind handbook to see if there are any exceptions. oh my lord, can women quit with the whole 'hivemind' bullshit strawman? No shit, women aren't a hivemind. But, it isn't outlandish to make generalizations based o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:19 PM
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They're fine Based on what metric? What criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:15 PM
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most women are not as jaded as we’re made out to be online I'm sorry but I don't believe that for a second... Are we just supposed to take your word for it? Who are you trying to fool?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 01:14 PM
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Because it's actually genuinely entertaining to discuss these topics on here...and because, as awful as this sounds, some of the takes that I've heard on this sub make it very obvious why some of you struggle so badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:01 AM
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I've seen some increasingly insane takes and genuinely dumbass posts on this sub more and more lately and I'm concerned for some of you people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 05:48 PM
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Your workplace, maybe. But don't sit here and act like this is a normal thing that occurs on the regular in workplaces across the board. jesus, some of you people...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:54 PM
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I genuinely don't know what planet some of you live on or what pocket dimension you're stranded from where women are just 'groping' men willy nilly the way you imply. I mean, yes, I'm not acting like women are incapable of getting a bit too handsy with men in the same manner as it would be the other way around. But most of the time this stuff is being perpetuated by men...against women. If these women are doing these things to you specifically? Guess what, buddy? Those women were probably flirti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:53 PM
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Women would drown their baby boys if that wasn’t illegal, and even then, they’re working to make it legal This is...just pure nonsense. Either you're deliberately ragebaiting or you're just in need of serious psychological help
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 06:35 AM
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Actions =/= words
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 06:16 AM
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I don't think I'd go nearly that far But I genuinely don't believe women when they say they care about men or men's mental health. At best, millennial women and Gen Z women are utterly indifferent to men...which is fine, that's their right. Women don't owe men their attention. BUT, at the same time, I just don't buy that any of you really care
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 06:15 AM
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Yeah but they aren't examples because average and below average men definitely don't have women looking at them. Do you not understand that these men don't have women looking at them, at all? That is what I think you don't seem to get
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:34 PM
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ok YOU made a statement that I initially replied to "...These men can and do get women looking at them..." maybe you just didn't pick up on the sarcasm, but what I meant by When and where? was that this doesn't happen in reality, and if it does, I'd like to know where. The truth is; those men DON'T have women looking at them. Period, and its delusion to say otherwise. Just because you personally know a few guys who have met their girlfriends at wives at bars, social events, etc... doesn't mean t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:37 PM
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They say they've "tried" and gotten ghosted and when you ask them how many times they either don't have an answer or they say like twice. Again, I ask again Where are you getting this information from? Who is 'they' ? If you're solely going off people from here then you're not gonna get a good sample size nor is it even a particularly good sample demographic, frankly. They're not really getting ghosted all the time. That's just an excuse. You're just making this shit up at worst, or applying exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:29 PM
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The men that dont care about who a woman is, or what she brings to the relationship besides a hole, are the men women are trying to avoid. That's 1000% false in every way Women are getting better at spotting those guys Are they? hence self improvement!! Women are kissing each other's asses and then getting mad for men for not doing the same, there is no self-improvement going on
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:33 PM
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It wouldn't but because sexual fulfillment is more complicated then nutting I'm very well aware of this, and I've never even said anything that would imply otherwise So when you say that they can get a sexual relationship easily, you are not listening to them when they describe what they mean when they say 'sexual relationship' the same way feminists don't listen to incels when they say buy a flesh-light. Let me quote myself "When a woman says she's lonely - typically that's woman speak for "I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:36 AM
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Lady, you don't even know me and you, just like you've done for nearly the entirety of this discussion, have jumped to and made some serious ridonkulous conclusions. You call it a personal attack; in reality, it's merely an observation and a fact. I know the truth stings sometimes, but that doesn't mean it's a personal insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:26 AM
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I don't think so or you would not have responded the way you did Nah, I responded the way I did because I've heard awful arguments against the point I was making plenty of times; and this is one of the worse ones haha Your problem is that you can't really visualize what the board looks like from the other side That's fairly ironic because usually the reverse is true when it comes to the context of this discussion But whatever helps you sleep at night
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:24 AM
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I understood your 'explanation' just fine. I'm just telling you it's a wad of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:18 AM
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Yes, but men are the only ones faulted for having them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:11 AM
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Women have been told to self improve for years. That is why women were pushed to go to college, get a good job and buy a house without relying on a man Yes, by other women. A lot of men, to this day, don't give a shit about whether or not a woman has a good job or have a college degree. Things are a little different nowadays, but nuclear families where the man is the sole breadwinner and the woman is a SAHM (with nothing above maybe an Associate's and no full-time income) is still fairly common.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:07 AM
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Naw I have know a few really nice girls that didn’t want to slut it up and were kind of invisible to guys I sincerely doubt that's the real reason, assuming, for the sake of this discussion, that these women really were invisible to men. Terms and conditions apply So you're admitting that it isn't remotely the same, then? but I get what girls mean when they say this. So do I... I just explained it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:59 AM
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Ok let's say women tell each other to self improve But they aren't, though. That's one of the main issues here. Everyone is a work in progress. Everyone, idc who you are or where you are in life. The issue is that men are constantly being told to self-improve and there's always some flaw or correction that needs to made. The same is absolutely NOT being said for women at all these days. that doesn’t mean most women will accept being in a relationship with a man they aren’t interested in Nobody i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:48 AM
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The Halo Effect is very real, and never forget it !
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:28 AM
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It isn't as if women aren't constantly huffing their own farts and telling themselves and each other that on a near-constant basis... Nobody is asking you to kiss men's asses, but it seems as if that's all a lot of women want; many of them without having very much to show for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:26 AM
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That's true. How many clubs and bars do you know where men can potentially get in for free? or events where men can show up and get drinks bought for them and not spend a single dollar? Hell, even in a lot of social circles in general, single men are usually approached with suspicion and apprehension at the very least. Even a lot of SWINGERS' CLUBS aren't very open and receptive of single men. SWINGERS CLUBS! But be a single woman showing up? You'll not have too much trouble getting in majority …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:24 AM
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The problem is these guys try like three times in their entire lives and then give up when things don't go their way Where are you getting this information from? Being popular takes a lot of time and effort, it's pretty much a 24/7 job No, it doesn't. Not for everybody. The Halo Effect is a very real thing. Some people just have it like that, they're effortlessly charismatic. If you have to work at it to the point where it's a 24/7 job to you, then you just don't have it like that. It's that sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:22 AM
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IDK you could have just left it there and it would have been accurate The problem is these guys don't go to these places. To any guy who is willing to look and act the part that if he goes to where single women are he will have women interested in knowing him at least for friendship. source; your rear end You have no basis for this assumption. Also, you act as if making friends with women will somehow increase romantic prospects. It doesn't; that's a huge misconception
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:34 AM
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These men can and do get women looking at them When and where?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:18 AM
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Femcels are literally not choosing to be alone that's self-reported and nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:17 AM
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Most so-called incels could find a woman willing to date him if he lowered his standards, Jesus tapdancing christ... Again, where are you getting this from? This is just yet another baseless assumption with zero evidence or even patterns to indicate that this is remotely true You do realize even unattractive people don't find each other attractive, right? "Oh, but I try hitting on women in my league but they still reject me". YES why is this such a difficult concept for you people to understand?…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:27 PM
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I don't think women as a whole understand that. When a woman says she's lonely - typically that's woman speak for "I can't find the guy that meets my standards" Whereas when a guy says he's lonely - he genuinely means he can't find a single soul that would even be willing to go on a single date with him
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:19 PM
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This kind of thing also happens to quite a few women too, it's not just men No, it really doesn't happen to 'quite a few women' There's a difference between not being able to find anyone that meets your standards...and not being able to find anyone that's interested in them at all Most of these self-identified 'lonely' women are probably that way because of their own standards and choices, and not because they straight up can't find anybody interested in them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:02 PM
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Bloopers can never accept this because it would absolutely shatter their worldview. They'll always find some way to move the goalposts and refuse to see anything outside of their extremely rose-tinted view of dating/relationships and life in general
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:59 PM
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Why is it my job to hold anybody accountable? I'm not responsible for other people's foibles and indiscretions. If I decide that I don't like someone or they've done something worth me distancing myself from them, then I do so. It isn't my job going around 'holding people' accountable, regardless of their gender/sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:48 PM
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I really don't think women deliberately give bad advice; women just give advice from how they see things and from their experiences and perspectives...JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, for the most part. The problem with that is, women and men live on completely different planets when it comes to dating. They have different priorities; different fears, insecurities and issues, different preferences. It's night and day. So, from someone in a man's shoes, women's advice is almost entirely useless and unhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:49 AM
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I don't give a shit about global birthrates in the slightest, and I don't blame women for not wanting kids and to be mothers, either. Why should I care, frankly? My contribution is approximately 0
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:29 PM
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I can see there being some credence to this theory. It isn't uncommon to hear that married men, or at least men in serious romantic relationships, suddenly start getting more attention from women...whereas before, when they were single, it was a fucking drought. In fact, I think it's even become a sort of cliche at this point because it's been a minor plot point in at least one shitty romcom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:18 AM
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Do you think average looking Ashley who works at the bank making $18/hour is trying to date some super hot guy making six figures? Uhm, yes? What woman isn't trying to date that? No... No!? NO!?? What planet are you on where that isn't true, I ask again. Just because 'Ashley' can't get the super-hot, 6-figure dude doesn't mean that she isn't absolutely vying for a man like that. She isn't pining over Joe who works construction, and she isn't interested in him. There's actually a better chance th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:15 AM
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I can't really say this without sounding mean or harsh, so screw it. But this is a legitimately stupid question to ask in general, let alone put forth towards women, who already, on average, don't have any active interest in the whole of men as is. There are so few men doing this in the world, and so few who would even be willing to do so...that this is a non-issue that, frankly, isn't even worthy of serious discussion. It isn't like there are droves of men rushing to go try and do something lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 06:58 PM
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Buddy, I promise if you start a new hobby with the sole intention of meeting a woman or a partner in general...women pick up on shit like that pretty quickly. You aren't going to have nearly as much of a successful endeavor as you think. Like another user pointed out, you've got about 1-2 women max to shoot your shot with before you're suddenly the guy everyone groans at when you enter the room. And it's foolish to hope and wait for any potential friend you make at said hobby group to set you up…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:37 AM
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this is going to be hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:29 AM
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Average men can't pursue casual sex, by default. They aren't attractive or interesting enough to be able to participate in 'hookup culture' (which doesn't exist btw). It really doesn't matter what they do, they'll get the same results either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:39 AM
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blame it on women or are hateful I mean, can you blame them? There's a difference between recognizing what women are attracted (generally) to and accepting the harsh truth of it...and then turning that frustration outwardly and acting like women are evil fae who are trying to steal all of your money and betabuxx you. I think both sexes have their own set of issues and equally suck. I don't hate women...at least not any more than I hate other men :-P Being a hateful turd or blaming women isn't go…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:54 AM
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The problem with absolute statements like this is that human relationships are dynamic and multifaceted. Hell, humans are dynamic and multifaceted. Could I platonically cuddle with a female friend? Nah, no. I won't even lie about that, won't happen. That's the case for a lot of other people as well... But there are also people who are somehow able to have platonic physical relationships with opposite sex friends...or at least the gender/sex they're attracted to. It's alien to my brain, but that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:54 PM
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that's why I said 'trailer park' 5s and 4s. An 8 in bumfuck Nebraska is a 4 in a place like Florida or California
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:49 PM
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I was being generous. A Kansas 8 may be a 4 in California or Florida
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:47 PM
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having 6 baby mamas with the trailer park 5s and 4s doesn't mean that these men are desirable to the average woman on the street lol. I can guarantee that they aren't to the majority of women. Keep in mind, these guys also, as you've stated, aren't making any serious income at all. There's nothing about these men that makes them a catch
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 02:02 PM
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I’ve gotten to where my opinion is that if you haven’t found a long term partner in high school, college, or work, and if you’re not extroverted with a large social network, your ability to find meaningful connections is statistically unlikely. This is a harsh reality that many people need to suck up and swallow instead of trying to act like it's anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:44 AM
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And as Ben Franklin would say, everyone is beautiful in the dark Good lord, you really are blue pilled aren't you? Dating a person I don't find terribly attractive that has an active mind would be better than dating a robot. If the AI is advanced enough, would you even be able to tell the difference at that point? Also, that active mind also has the potential to have a shit-ton of pathological personality issues that might otherwise taint or destroy a relationship. That goes both ways, for the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:42 AM
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you say that until you find yourself faced with that issue, then you may be singing a different tune. It's easy to be a saint in paradise
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:36 PM
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I understand, brother
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:34 PM
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That isn't even remotely comparable, what are you on about? Either back up your claim or just admit you're making some very far reaching assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:53 PM
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I'm sure a lot of women want relationships with good men, they would just MUCH rather try being happy and live a fulfilling live being single than they would to make any compromises for the type of man they want in their lives. So, even if these women aren't happily single, they aren't going to suddenly start forming relationships with men they don't want just because they don't want to be alone. That isn't how women work, not really. If given the options of being with a guy they aren't really h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:50 PM
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You're the one who made a claim and the onus is on YOU to back it up, you don't get to shuffle the evidence to back up your claim onto me. Either back up your assertion or you have no argument. It's that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:47 PM
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Again, you can't make that assumptions because you have nothing to back it up. You don't have enough information or, frankly, knowledge about men's private lives/sex lives to make that conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:38 PM
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-Women seems to not understand that a lot of younger girls are actively searching to date older guys. I have a few relationship with girls younger than me and in every case, they were the one initiating the flirt. All the manipulation and grooming things are vastly overblown. Is this actually true? I keep hearing this yet I don't see any Gen Z women clamoring over older men unless they've got some sort of sugar daddy arrangement I don't think this is nearly as common as you're making it out to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:11 PM
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If success is having sex with a many women as possible without commitment of course it's the people who actually like women less who "succeed" I'm not being sarcastic or condescending, but how does it translate that men who care about women 'less' as people would therefore be more successful at sleeping with as many women as possible without commitment? Do you not think it's possible for a man to be open and honest with his intentions to the women he gets involved with and not have any issues st…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:36 PM
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I actually think we'd all be better off if we all just tried to treat each other with a little bit more understanding and a little less talking past each other. Women, on average, don't really give a shit about men. They're indifferent to us...which is fine, that's their right. But humans are social creatures ultimately, and I think it's very telling that we have a whole generation that just...isn't really hooking up or shacking up amongst each other (don't just take my word for it, look it up; …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:14 PM
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I think you're partially correct. I don't think women attribute men's romantic failures to moral failings/flaws by default, but they most certainly can...and in some cases, do...play a role in as to why they're so romantically unsuccessful. It does indicate that there is definitely something socially wrong with the person, at the very least. There is a social failure or flaw present more than likely. But a potential moral failing causing this hypothetical man to strike out with the ladies can on…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:10 PM
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I'm not sure how I feel about it being perceived as a red flag Well, unfortunately, that doesn't matter. It is what it is, and, frankly, I don't blame women for having reservations dating an inexperienced guy Like I get it, but it is also built on assumptions. Again, that sucks, but life is unfair. Also, not all of those assumptions are unreasonable or incorrect I myself was a late bloomer (lost it Jan 1st of this year at 30, finally), but I also had to get over 20 years of trauma when my brothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:21 PM
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No they don't... Talk to an average chick and she won't know or won't care
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:02 PM
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I DO know that while I did date virgins earlier in life, I didn't really like it. I found them sexually inhibited, often, and I never liked having to talk someone through sex like I was...hyping them to give a public presentation or speech, or the need for constant reassurance, which often didn't go away after a first time. I much preferred being with women who approached from an angle of fun, not fear. I can imagine women wanting a man to approach sex in the same manner, for compatibility...par…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:45 PM
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I can agree with that. You shouldn't start panicking until you reach 30, then it's probably over for you at that point...or you have to start recognizing, at least, that the odds are heavily against you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:43 PM
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You also will have HAD experiences they haven't as a result of isolation. You don't need to to think of this as damage In what way is it not damage?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:35 PM
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This doesn’t mean that it’s hopeles I mean it absolutely is, though, for a ton of men in this position
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:32 PM
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Your point is not valid, you just made up some shit because it fit your narrative all whilst contradicting yourself in the same breath
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:30 PM
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I appreciate your honesty. It's refreshing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:29 PM
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Yeah pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:28 PM
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Incel is a word that's been thrown around so much as an insult that it's practically lost all meaning. You could be a perfectly decent guy who just had shit luck at dating, and if you express any sort of grievances or frustrations you can bet your sweet ass there'll be a dozen or so folks calling him an incel Ironically, you just contradicted yourself anyways by saying labels are bad and then going on to use one in the same sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:25 PM
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I'm going to quote myself and say something that I said to another user. Being a 'late bloomer' as a woman and a 'late bloomer' as a man are two totally different things. You can totally be a 'late blooming' woman and have a successful and fulfilling romantic life. For a guy? The odds are increasingly going to be against you more and more the older you get and the more failures you rack up. So, I want to preface that right off the start, the two are not even remotely comparable
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:24 PM
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The rewards will come if you keep putting the work (and by rewards I mean you’ll find people who will resonate with you, social activities you enjoy and so on), focus on building a life worth sharing (by that I mean an interesting life, not your income) and once you truly feel that, people you’re interested in will start to notice. Dude, stop Just fucking stop with this bullshit It's entirely possible to do everything right and still fail. This whole "If you just put in the work and things will …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:23 PM
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No, not really. I mean, there's a certain level of low self-esteem and insecurity where it becomes toxic and pathological to a relationship...but men, on average, don't care about confidence as much as women might... Not saying it doesn't factor in at all, but it isn't nearly as much of a concern
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:19 PM
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that isn't an unreasonable take. But I think men do believe in love, we just also realize that we have to make a few changes and be a certain type of guy to get any serious play to find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:17 PM
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The average women doesn't give a shit about passport pros nor does she think about them. Even if she thinks less of them if the topic is brought up, the idea doesn't occupy any rent space in her head...she just thinks they're losers. Women don't give a shit about men, it's that simple. They don't hate us, they don't particularly love us, either. But, some people interpret apathy as hate, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:15 PM
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Not everything is a skill issue, lady. Has it ever occurred to you that some people are just truly and utterly fucked? Being 5'5 and balding is not a skill issue, it just means you lost the genetic lottery. Those two things will ALWAYS be a detriment to a man and NEVER a positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:14 PM
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no they are not do you think women go around comparing notes or some shit? women have no idea the success rate of men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:09 PM
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I think a lot of people forget, the 'looksmatched' couple you see walking around in WalMart or wherever on the street, you don't know the full story. The fact of the matter is, bodies change, looks change. You take a woman who's an absolute bombshell...every man wants to be with her, everyone wants to be her. Hook her up with an absolute stud. Successful career, 6'0+, in at least decent shape. Give them both 15+ years, kids, a demanding career, stress, etc... Suddenly that couple at Wal-Mart tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 10:19 AM
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I don't assume anything about a gorgeous woman when I see her except that she probably has many of the same fears and struggles that a lot of other, less conventionally attractive women have. She could be a piece of shit or have a heart of gold, someone's looks doesn't determine that whatsoever. But, the halo effect is real, so people are going to automatically assume a good-looking person is nicer and more trustworthy, even if there's no evidence to back this up whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 10:06 AM
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Oh please, you've exchanged exactly one line of text and now you've suddenly extrapolated that I'm just as bad as whoever this assclown is. You have some real growing up to do. And you can ask whatever you want, I'm simply responding to the generalization that you've made about men getting off on being manipulative. We, on average, don't...? What he's saying is total BS
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 10:04 AM
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I don't do that and I don't know any other men who do that. That isn't to say that it doesn't happen, I'm not one of those folks who says "...because I don't see it happen, it doesn't occur..." but, let's say that is what's happening; why do you think the individual's sex has anything to do with it? He's just a bad, manipulative person. If he was a woman, he would be finding ways to manipulate men to get what she wanted. Anyone with any semblance of a moral compass, man or woman, would recognize…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 10:02 AM
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Ok? Do you think that that translates across the board because one flagrantly unscrupulous man claimed it to be so?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 10:00 AM
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I sincerely doubt that they do unless they specifically have their finger on the pulse of the dating world
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 09:56 AM
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Great men just aren’t available to them, or easy to find Those men are already off the market I don’t know any amazing single guys myself there's a reason for that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:28 AM
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This should be the top comment. The fact of the matter is, if it didn't come to you at a certain point in time, you're fighting an increasingly losing battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:26 PM
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Maybe it depends on perspective, and what it means to ‘’relate’’ to someone No, it doesn't...jesus. This is not one of those instances Men and women broadly have different experiences in the dating world Agreed but they can still feel empathy with one another to an extent yes which might be a better word than relate well, then, said empathy is ultimately worthless to me. If you can't relate to something then you have no business giving advice on it. It's that simple At least most normal adults c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:07 PM
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You, you're a good friend
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:44 PM
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People assume that the opposite sex can’t relate to their problems because they generally can't Majority of men probably wouldn't relate to a woman getting bombarded with unwanted sexual attention since she hit puberty (which is what a shocking number of women have told me and have openly stated all over the internet). Majority of women wouldn't relate to a guy going YEARS without even a semblance of affection from the opposite gender even if/when they wanted it. Men and women live in two totall…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:23 PM
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'Mid' =/= unattractive Not even close. Some people call Sidney Sweeney 'mid' (which is absolutely fucking bonkers hahaha)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:37 PM
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Women are not settling Lady, who are you trying to fool? Goddamn haha People settle, this isn't just a woman thing. To act like women don't settle is pure and utter delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:35 PM
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You clearly didn't read what I wrote...or maybe you did, but you didn't comprehend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:24 PM
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If I am in a market, and all I am offered is shit sandwiches, I have two choices — buy the best shit sandwich or just pass. It's a matter of perception. What women call 'shit sandwiches' are really just women wanting Ruth's Chris but settling for Chili's and thinking that all of the menu items are all poor choices... Japan - although it’s more a guess. The society requires women to do a lot once married. I think they have to quit their jobs, raise their kids alone essentially, and also take care…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:23 PM
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You are making a ton of assumptions, and it's hilarious You act like people don't settle all the time. People have a variety of reasons for entering a relationship, and it isn't wrong to have reservations about being settled for depending on the relationship and the persons involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:17 PM
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All men realize that they will end up settling because their desires are inherently unrealistic. And what are said desires that you deem unrealistic? Men aren't going to end up with the sexy only fans models they follow that are 10yrs younger than them Most men are well aware of this. Even if they shoot their shot with said model, a lot of men are maddeningly aware that their chances with said woman is slim to none. They just have nothing to lose by trying. They know they will most likely end up…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:16 PM
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so what? that's solely a you problem
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:00 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Often times it's men who are the ones expected to clean up the mess... I'm done with you, you're clearly just either rage baiting or just truly delusionally misandrist...and it's unhelpful to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:35 PM
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Yeah there’s not enough men like this for all the women who want on Right, which is 90% of women...who, frankly, aren't shit themselves. If we can agree that neither gender has their shit together and both are unbearable in their own ways, maybe we can get past some of this underlying hostility between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:34 PM
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is that why women have a higher s*icide rate than men? Oh wait....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:32 PM
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They aren't just basing these observations solely on women who post here... and the fact of the matter is, even if they were, they likely aren't even incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:28 PM
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First of all...you're a woman Being a 'late bloomer' as a woman and a 'late bloomer' as a man are two totally different things. You can totally be a 'late blooming' woman and have a successful and fulfilling romantic life. For a guy? The odds are increasingly going to be against you more and more the older you get and the more failures you rack up. So, I want to preface that right off the start, the two are not even remotely comparable Perhaps because I myself was a late bloomer. and I'm genuine…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:27 PM
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that's probably because many do and are
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:14 PM
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Men create their own value and they are entirely in control of it That couldn't be any further from the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:14 PM
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And you better believe women have to work hard to get into a relationship. Actually you really don't, you choose to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:07 PM
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Probably not, but that would require a level of self-assessment that most people refuse to do, man or woman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:06 PM
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I actually found that there were a lot of really good high-quality men that perhaps were late bloomers If they were high quality men then they wouldn't be late bloomers. The two don't go together People who are high quality don't turn out to be late bloomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:02 PM
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That isn't an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:56 PM
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Ehhh I didn't say all that... Like I said, it isn't like women's shit doesn't stink, either. Y'all aren't nearly as well put together or as much of a catch as you think. Also, men are definitely expected to do more than just 'have a job' ffs... These 'good' men (whatever the hell that even means nowadays) have likely already either found their woman, or they likely wouldn't give most women the time of day beyond a causal relationship...because she doesn't give him any good reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:38 PM
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the issue we run into is that a lot of folks either don't have anybody who likes them, can't find anybody...or they're completely oblivious to the people in their lives who do like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:32 PM
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His fiancé is rather plain in comparison. Is he settling? How do you know he's not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:29 PM
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we were going on dates with normal dudes and it didn’t work out 'Normal' dudes aren't going out on dates nowadays. Not really...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:29 PM
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Women don't really have a lot of incentive to want to meet men nowadays tbh. A lot of us are shit (not like the women are much better, frankly, but not the topic of discussion) and women can easily life a VERY fulfilled and meaningful life without having a man anywhere in the picture. I'm of the opinion that most women who are single are single purely by choice, as they could VERY easily change that by the end of business today if they so desired. That's probably why it isn't as much of a priori…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:10 PM
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From what I've seen and experienced; most 'Chads', for lack of a better term, do eventually get married and/or end up in long-term relationships. The difference is, the 'Chads' (god I hate that term) have far greater SMV and RMV than the non-top 20% of men. The 'Chad' may have had a far greater body count and has been with more women in flings and short relationships/situationships than the dude who was with one woman for 4 years, broke up with her and then went YEARS without any contact with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:07 PM
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Oh, my bad. I misunderstood you. Deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:30 PM
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I wouldn’t necessarily say an average girl has more options I mean she absolutely does, though. Who are you trying to fool?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:09 AM
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No it doesn't... You can value a ton of things, and each person's values vary wildly...but the fact of the matter is, if the person doesn't pass a certain looks threshold, they aren't going to get any play even if they share all of the same values as the other person. A 5'4, balding dude who's slightly overweight is never going to get the same play as a dude who is 6'0, has all of his hair and is at least at a healthy bodyweight...no matter what his personality is like. The halo effect is very r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:06 AM
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I'll concede to the second point, but looks still play a huge part and will ultimately be what gets your foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:42 AM
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OP, you are a saint for pointing this out. So many people need a reality check.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:40 AM
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Sounds like you just have shitty friends. Don't interpolate your poor judgment of character onto everyone else. "Those who cannot conceive of friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a friend.” - C.S. Lewis
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:02 AM
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You are making a TON of assumptions. Not all of them completely unreasonable, but still... The only way of knowing if he's sleeping with multiple people is if he's telling you about his sex life That's generally true! But how many people is this individual telling about his sex life? People talk; people notice things and people are nosy as hell; sometimes you don't necessarily have to explicitly announce that you're sleeping with multiple people for people to put two and two together, especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 05:56 PM
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You're free to believe that, but just know that that's purely a personal standard and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 03:02 PM
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They can’t just say, “Hey, wanna come over and bang?” and expect it to work like a charm You would be floored at how often this works if the guy is attractive enough. Not saying it works often, or even regularly...but it's a LOT more than you would expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 02:43 PM
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If they're over 30 and trying to be a player they're usually deeply insecure losers trying to "catch up" because they didn't get any pussy when they were younger. Even if that's the case, I don't see that as being an inherently bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 02:40 PM
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Men who sleep with lots of women have a low view of women Based on...? (source; the_1st_inductionist's ass)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 02:36 PM
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Those kind of men get run through in similar ways promiscuous women do Is that true? I highly doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 02:35 PM
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But he will labeled as such regardless. It isn't the truth necessarily, it's the perception. People will frame things to fit their narrative and their level of knowledge of the situation at hand, not necessarily based on what's true and factual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 02:34 PM
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Well, here's a thought for you. What makes you think they are attracted to each other? People marry for a variety of reasons, and relationships are complex. Circumstances change, bodies change (weight gain/loss, aging, etc), resource access changes. Also, dead bedrooms are VERY much a thing. A woman could have married an absolute stud with abs and a chiseled jawline...but give this same dude 15+ years, two kids and a 40+ hour week office job? He may not look like the same man she was attracted t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:12 PM
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I wasn't even aware this was a contentious topic of discussion in the first place...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:15 AM
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Y'all are both genuinely good looking individuals, so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 05:52 AM
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the vast majority of men date with the intent of commitment citation needed Also, casual dating is a thing...so that automatically negates what you're saying anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:01 AM
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How? Do you not understand that some people casually date? Commitment isn't inherent or implicit, it must be solidly established
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:56 AM
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No self-respecting man would, tf? What kind of question is this? What sort of answers were you expecting here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:18 PM
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The source: his ass
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:17 PM
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Because there often is a bad intention behind it Based on...? but if younger women are the only ones an older man goes for, then he's got some issues Or...and you may want to sit down for this one...maybe he's more attracted to younger women. People are attracted to what they're attracted to, for a variety of reasons. Everyone is different. There doesn't have to be some deeper meaning behind it. Doesn't mean he has issues, doesn't mean he's sick in the head. This is something that even took me a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:26 PM
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Staying good looking is a fight you cannot win Well, if you have enough money and are willing to invest, that isn't even necessarily true lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:24 PM
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not necessarily
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:22 PM
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I find it pretty hilarious how many women say they're going to be there for their man emotionally... but on the other hand, how many men can say that their girlfriends/wives actually fulfil that role? There is a reason that it's become a rather popular idea that women, in fact, are fucking horrible at being emotionally supportive of their partners. I don't even think I need to go into detail, because everyone who's been in this sub for more than 8 minutes is very well aware of what I'm talking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:07 PM
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for people who think its a cuck activity to give oral sex to a non-virgin woman ...that's a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:17 AM
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It isn't impossible to find per say, but it is exceedingly rare. Not to mention women tend to incredibly picky as is, by default. So it's also that the type of men they're attracted to just happen to watch quite a bit of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:15 AM
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Do you think going one's life without any sexual or romantic desire could count as trauma No, and it's silly to categorize it as such. FFS
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 07:51 AM
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Not saying that you are an incel, but that particular fact doesn't automatically negate the point they're trying to make. If you're an incel, you're an incel lol. Doesn't matter if the accusing party has had more ass than a toilet seat or hasn't seen a titty IRL since they were breastfed. Facts are facts
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:33 AM
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I've never met a dude under that height that didnt pull women just fine Oh, well, shit...this is the perspective we needed! Throw out everything, folks. This woman has the answers!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:30 AM
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Average men have no hope of ever experiencing love or desire That is a bit of hyperbole, but at the same time, the numbers and the stories speak for themselves. Let's not act like the dating world is going swell for the majority of young(er) men in 2024. It ain't...not even close
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:27 AM
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something which they could very easily change at literally any point if they so desired. Men don't have such a choice, at least not so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:12 AM
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I feel you, but that's far easier said than done in this day and age. Even more so because I have two jobs and hobbies that aren't very social
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:46 AM
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A huge problem for those of us who don't have particularly thriving social lives. I don't have a "friend group" lol I have a very small number of close friends that we each hang out with each other independently. Also, even within friend groups, people don't always luck out
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:26 AM
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I do think most women would like to be approached at the gym, if you are confident in leading the conversation Really? I've only ever heard the opposite. I know I come to the gym to focus, lift some heavy ass weight, and build up a good sweat. Not to socialize. I'm sure it's no different for most women at the gym. In fact, many women have even expressed that sentiment openly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:16 AM
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Could you elaborate a little more?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:36 AM
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I'm genuinely curious. Not trying to start an argument, I just want to know. This is in good faith. You don't have to take my word for it, but hopefully my responses will convince folks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:35 AM
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You would think. Unfortunately we both know that in many instances, shitty guys end up in relationships with halfway decent women. It happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:34 AM
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how do you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:28 AM
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most men feel rape is unavoidable most men also feel abortion is a magic decision that requires no effort, money, physical pain and recovery or travel/time off from work most men have no idea how vulnerable pregnancy and labor makes you. most men have no idea that breastfeeding takes 8 hours a day and you're doing that for at least 6 months (so, you are back working your full time job, caring for a newborn infant, and breastfeeding 8 hours a day). When women say shit like this, in particular the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:20 AM
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Read her flare, with that ideology she's incapable of doing any of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:09 AM
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Youre dating a women that doesnt ever treat you, dump her. I'd reckon a large number of men are with women who hardly ever "treat" them, if even at all. It's almost to be expected in many ways
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:03 AM
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A shitty (see what I did there?) ad hominem basically tells me you have nothing. Thanks for playing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:38 AM
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Ehh, I really couldn't give two shits if a woman is "confident" in the same way a woman would describe a man she finds attractive. What I mean is, I don't really consider it to be a turn-on or anything. It isn't a particularly attractive trait I suppose. It's nice, I guess, but it won't make me go from a "No" to a "Yes!" by default. I'd prefer that she's content with herself as she is at the very least, but I'm not necessarily that concerned over whether or not she exudes confidence. Low self-es…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:36 AM
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Being confident won't suddenly make a 5'6, balding, out of shape dude suddenly go from a 4 to a 7. The whole "confidence is sexy" thing is completely overstated
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:26 AM
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but the porn that is popular is usually violent Source: your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:21 AM
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Finally someone with reasonability here...jesus christ It's very eye-rolling to continuously hear about how porn is some horrific, degrading thing...and how dehumanizing porn is to women, how awful it is, etc... It's very odd. Newsflash, for all you geniuses out there; humans have been consuming sexually explicit material, for the sake of this discussion, let's call it "porn", since FOREVER The form has changed and morphed over the centuries, but it isn't like porn is some new thing that the kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:21 AM
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but new people who you get to know for like an hour before deciding to live with them.. you think an hour is long enough to determine whether or not you can share a residence with another individual for god knows how long? Sheesh... I wish you all the best but I can't wrap my head around your thought process at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 08:27 AM
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I suppose that's different, but it's also easier said than done. I have friends that I love dearly that I would never want to live with...because I've been inside their place before lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:57 AM
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Same reason why women say they love a man in uniform. They don't necessarily like the guy for who he is, but what he can do and what he can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:48 AM
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If you're in a shared flat, you instantly develop a social circle Ehm...no I've had my fair share of bad roommates in the past, there's no social circle there. You're assuming these flatmates get along. Unfortunately, reality isn't always so kind
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:47 AM
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in theory
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:46 AM
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There is no substitite to living alone. Everything is exactly as you left it, where you left it, and nobody is there to tamper with it. Zero drama because...well...you're by yourself. I can walk around buck naked and clean my apartment without having to worry about anything or anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:46 AM
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I hear what you're saying, but for many people a therapist is their best shot at being able to express all of their deepest, darkest thoughts without fear of repercussions, judgment, social/professional consequences, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:44 AM
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I couldn't agree more. Especially as someone who works two jobs, one being overnight. It's depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:43 AM
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MMA fighter?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:42 AM
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majority of men don't hold these jobs construction, war/military What planet are you from where this is the case? The have consistently been the two jobs where men have overwhelmingly held more positions. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:41 AM
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I'm trying to wrap my head around why You care so much what other people do with their bodies and their time? Why you think others should care what your SUBJECTIVE views are regarding what they do with their bodies and time? If you can answer these two questions, then maybe you'll have some basis for a real argument. All I'm hearing is someone clutching their pearls over shit other people do that you don't approve of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:56 AM
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"Men are infinitely more forgiving towards women flaws..." I'm not so sure that's true... Women regularly date shitty guys in the hopes that they'll change him or because of some other BS, contrived reason, continuously get hurt by said guys...and then continue to date those types all while painting the entirety of men with the same flaws and bad traits. Women are way more forgiving of men that make their lady parts tingle. The other 80% of men are simply invisible to them altogether. They could…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:14 AM
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k but what if I told you that not all simplifications and generalizations are made equally?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:43 AM
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The level of oversimplification that you're doing right now just shows how little you truly know about dating/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:50 AM
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none of the heuristics about dating and relationships (for lack of a better term/description) are absolute truths. What you're saying is also equally valid, but doesn't generally apply for most situations...if that makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:28 AM
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Which is exhausting and, ultimately, worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:08 AM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:59 AM
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I can agree with that. There is a perception that an uglier, more desperate guy will automatically be a better partner. That definitely is a myth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:56 AM
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I don't have to know you. It's just a basic inference based on available knowledge about dating, demographics and how they relate to the standards you yourself have stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:54 AM
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With how obesity is affecting the US and how men, even in this sub, say they don't want chubby women We all know that there are plenty of men who have "flexible" standards, to say the least. We also know that many of those men are desperate and will essentially take what they can get. It stands to reason that some of these men would give these "chubby" women a chance if they think there's a possibility they'll get laid or maybe even get a gf for once. Do not take what you read on reddit as gospe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:53 AM
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Right? Shit like this makes me scratch my head
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:46 AM
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if your standards really were truly as pure and "not unachievably high" as you stated and you struggled to meet this person until 36, there's a good chance that it was you who were the problem. What that problem is/was, I obviously don't know "...college educated, non smoker, no kids, actually single..." come on
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:45 AM
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Tell that to a large percentage of women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:43 AM
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I don't doubt the fact that average looking or below men can and do screw women over In what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:43 AM
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That's still a pretty insane number.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:42 AM
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It isn't a matter of whether or not they did, it's a matter of whether or not they can if they wanted to. It's safe to say that any woman who is at least somewhat attractive can achieve those numbers with at least a modicum of effort (and I'm trying to be generous). This is nearly impossible for the majority of men today
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:41 AM
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Define "plenty" also, you're just plainly wrong lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:39 AM
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your point being?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:38 AM
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It isn't out of the realm of possibility that most of them probably were
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:38 AM
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not necessarily
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:38 AM
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there's a very distinctive difference in answers between the women who identify as "blue pill" and...well...everyone else interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:24 AM
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"being attractive" tends to correlate with other traits like intelligence is that actually true or is that simply perceived as being true? There are studies that also show conventionally attractive people are viewed as being more trustworthy as well, despite the fact that someone's looks has no bearing on whether or not that's actually true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:54 AM
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There’s currently a huge discourse on X how the dude from Reacher who is pretty jacked is somehow unattractive to women and showing abs is borderline gay, per a woman That's a classic example of sour grapes These women probably could never get a guy like Alan Ritchson...and I think deep down they know this. So they just choose to be negative about him instead of accepting the fact that he's completely out of their league in every sense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:45 AM
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That's hilarious that you think women give a shit. It's already well established that women are generally very particular about who they date and sleep with. Obviously there are exceptions, but that's why I said generally... It isn't even like all women only want "Chad", so to speak. They just want what they want, as an individual, and aren't really willing to compromise if they don't feel an absolute need to. All those guys that are stoically resigned to remaining single are more than likely th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:43 AM
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I'm curious as to what you mean by "aren't conventionally attractive" that could mean any range of things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:19 AM
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Being settled for and having occasional sex is better to most men than being alone and masturbating That's debatable. There are far worse things than the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:14 AM
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That's probably because you're a reasonable person who doesn't make false assumptions about people (particularly men) from the getgo. Granted, I'm running on a 5 year dry spell, but even when I've just been talking to someone and disclose that I always get shit for it. "No, I'm not just looking for a hookup, but I'm not opposed to it, either. No, I'm not just looking to use women for sex. If I was I wouldn't have been honest and upfront with my intentions..."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:02 AM
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Unfortunately, as a guy who is really only looking for something casual, there's no way to really get that across without looking like a total asshole. Even if you put it out there as tactfully and reasonably as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:57 AM
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Has it ever occurred to you that those men are simply taking what they can get because they have no other options? Also, do those stats take into account men who are already married or in relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:36 AM
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Dating isn't always easier for older men. It's only the case for older men who have taken care of themselves and made something of themselves. For the average joe who does...well...none of those things? They only get older and more unappealing with time. These women that weren't interested in them when they were already young and relatively average aren't suddenly going to develop interest just because those women are themselves a little older and a little more desperate. The men have just decre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:17 AM
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Something tells me the dating apps didn't create that, it just simply exacerbated it. Do you really think those other 50% of men had a decent shot? Then Tinder and Bumble showed up and just ruined everything? Or perhaps those guys were already at the bottom 50%, and this simply accentuated their average-ness ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:50 AM
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hell the biggest dating app is Instragram Wait what? I've never heard that one before
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:49 AM
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This isn't true across the board. It's well known that attractive men, hell...attractive people, can get away with a lot more than their less attractive counterparts. It's as the saying goes "Its only creepy if he's unattractive..." and while I don't think that's an absolute truth, it's a pretty solid rule of thumb
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:48 AM
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Men and women are having casual sex just fine The numbers don't seem to indicate that at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:46 AM
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Casual sex is made to seem normal in popular media There's good argument that some things in media are a reflection of what goes on in society at large. Casual sex isn't just some new, hedonistic thing the kids just started getting off social media lol. It's been going on for quite a while now, in reality. Hell, Zoomers are having less sex than previous generations. Casual sex was, if we're going by the numbers, far more common in days past. women grow up thinking “this is what everyone does” un…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:25 AM
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It's not worth giving up goodies until you can be sure if you are both on the same page. I couldn't agree more. I wish it was common for people to just say what they want before it even gets to the point where folks are having headaches and potential heartbreak over it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:22 AM
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What does "far too active" mean, exactly? That's extremely vague All it seems that your buddy was lamenting over is the fact that American women seem unapproachable, nothing you said indicated that he was thirstier than someone trapped in the Sahara.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:18 AM
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Revenge and Karma sleep in the same bed I love this, I'm stealing it Also, kudos to you for optimizing the situation for yourself. I just turned 30 not too long ago and I'm definitely feeling like shit going in to the new year about that in particular, especially being 5 years in with no dates, nothing...nothing at all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:56 AM
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Finally someone says it. A lot of the time, regardless of whether or not you're a HVM or just an average joe, many relationships and even casual flings are just random luck. Being in the right place at the right time where the right person just happens to be there as well. Yes, being a HVM gives you more options and opportunities, but it doesn't necessarily or automatically translate to success in every occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:50 AM
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I told him the problem is, when you aren't looking they'll find you. When you are looking you won't find anyone. I guess that's the weird thing about it, huh? Majority of men cannot afford to take the more passive approach to dating, or they will end up alone. No debating that one. However, in the even that they do find someone, suddenly they find more women are interested. Pre-selection is such a weird phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:49 AM
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Not necessarily. I had women associated with my jobs approach me even when I wasn't actively looking to date. Maybe workplace dating doesn't happen as much nowadays, though. You're probably more attractive than you let on. A lot of people refrain from dating in the workplace, not just women. One of the reason high-value men do so well is that they have plenty of options, so that if one woman happens to reject them, they don't take it so seriously, so therefore they are never seem that desperate.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:47 AM
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Teach me your ways
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 09:18 AM
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A few reasons People feel less bound to societal pressures. There was a day and age where people were expected to follow certain norms. Have kids, get a cushy job, etc... Nowadays? People have more or less kissed those norms goodbye and decided to go their own way, for the better IMO. The fucking economy. A ton of people are struggling, a ton. Ask any parent, even the most loving, proud parent. Kids are expensive, they're a financial black hole. If you're already struggling to achieve financial …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:17 AM
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With modern fertility treatments, the idea of struggling to have a kid past a certain age may be a thing of the past in the very near future. It'll still be expensive, though...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:13 AM
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For men, it means they feel more pressure to lock down or seal the deal because they expect the window where women lose interest will be shorter. They also might feel pressure to let certain things go, including bigger things like cheating, because they're anxious they can't easily get another relationship. I mean...in their defense, can you truly blame them? For a lot of these guys, it isn't even an invalid concern. Plenty of men, if not the majority of them, are crashing and burning in the dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:12 AM
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but a confident ugly guy would do better than an insecure ugly guy Not necessarily. They would both be labeled as "creepy" more often than not for even attempting to be a "ladies man" It's been well established that attractive people in general can get away with far more than those who aren't as conventionally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:10 AM
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I'd say I would approach the situation with caution at the very least, and she would have to be someone I really see something happening with. Someone who "socially" or "casually" uses recreational drugs can very quickly turn into someone who's an addict. It does happen. Also, who in this day and age still considers pot to be an "illicit substance" ? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:02 AM
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That's fair. But I'm just talking on average. I'd like to think most reasonable people understand that personality and common interests is what keeps people around, but looks is what gets your foot in the door. Although, I bet even if the hypothetical 5'4 dude was in decent shape and you had some things in common with him, you probably still wouldn't date him, would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 07:58 PM
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If a man cared about having an emotional connection then he wouldn’t get so upset if he started out in the “friend zoned” You clearly have no clue of what the "friend zone" is if you truly believe that...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:39 AM
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That's probably because a lot of men are only interested in just sex, and they have no qualms lying and emotionally manipulating women to get it. Women are well aware of this fact, so they tend to be wary of men that express interest in them. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that... men shouldn't have to feel like they need to continously sweep a woman off her feet with romantic gestures and wait until she brings up the topic of sex and never even think of sex until she does. Sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:38 AM
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Why do you assume that a woman’s negative experiences with men are the result of her poor choices? Because, some of them are exactly that...thing is, in those particular instances, women don't really care much to own up to it Some of us have experienced sexual assault and rape. An estimated 1 in 4 women have experienced sexual violence I'm well aware, and I'm not talking about that If that is what's causing this hypothetical woman to overthink all of her partner's actions, that's one thing and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:33 AM
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🤭👍
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:07 PM
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I'm surprised such a thing doesn't exist already
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:49 PM
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He's defending his idol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:49 PM
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Thanks for contributing to the discussion 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:48 PM
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Testosterone is a hell of a drug. There's a reason why men are generally hairier, angrier and hornier than women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:40 PM
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She will have the power of being able to bed a super handsome man instantly. Causing her to try to dominate me or be less forgiving If you have the ability to date a "super hot girl" from your words, it stands to reason that you're probably a pretty conventionally attractive man yourself at the very least. If you weren't, 9 times out of 10, she wouldn't really give you the time of day. Yes, personality makes people stick around, but your looks is what gets your foot in the door. Having establish…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:38 PM
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WebMD? Sheesh...alright let's go through this one In a 2007 study They're referencing a nearly 2 decade old study for this one? I mean, that doesn't automatically invalidate the point they're trying to make, but they're really reaching for this one. Is there not a more recent study they could've used? Ok, I'll allow it The people they studied – all college students – were asked the same set of questions but were split into three groups. A piss poor sample size, frankly. This isn't enough to even…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:20 PM
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Very doubtful of this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:01 PM
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"a study" Yeah, sorry, there's no way that's possibly true at all. I'd like to see this study.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:01 PM
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which proves that there is no universal chad Eehhhh, that isn't entirely true. There are some traits that people objectively find more attractive than others, point blank. There may not be a "universal chad" so to speak, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find many women who would date, sleep with or marry a 5'4, balding dude who's in poor shape. OTOH, I think you'd also be hard pressed to find many women who wouldn't date, sleep with or marry a 6'3 dude with a chiseled jawline and an athletic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:55 PM
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Who the fuck marries for live? Lots of people... It may not be the only, sole reason people marry, but let's not act like it doesn't play a role in many marriages. Perhaps not all of them, maybe not even majority of them, but there are such things as loving marriages. I know, sounds crazy...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:51 PM
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Not sure what that has to do with my point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:50 PM
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If an average woman can’t get the 6’5 nba player she should accept it. If an average man can’t get an average woman, he should accept it the problem here is glaringly apparent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:49 PM
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That hypothetical couple are probably in a dead bedroom situation as well, more than likely...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:49 PM
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That's going to be exceedingly difficult for you to find a woman who is in your income bracket, realistically. I hope you're aware of that... Not trying to be a douche, but think about how few people in general make 6 figures, statistically
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:47 PM
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This isn't true whatsoever. "Leagues" exist, in the same way jobs/employment do. Upward mobility is very possible and happens quite a lot if you put in the work. Many people just end up in bad spots and, for whatever reason, either can't or don't move up. There are the people who work at McDonald's who swear up and down that they're going to be a millionaire one day, but never even make an attempt to make small improvements to their situation. Those are the folks who complain that they can't get…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:39 PM
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There's nothing stopping you from removing yourself from the situation/sub :-) this is especially true if you're already married/in a successful relationship, what do you have to gain from sticking around?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:33 PM
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even if they did they live in a completely different world altogether, contrary to what many folks seem to parrot
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:37 AM
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You don't, you're basically toast
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:36 AM
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Most guys struggling are slobs, severely sexist, broke or usually all three combined based on...? I'm not even saying you're entirely wrong, but that's a bit of an overgeneralization. Has it ever occurred to you that sometime shit just doesn't work out for a lot of guys? Even more so when you consider how incredibly picky a ton of women tend to be just in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:34 AM
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It literally is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:33 AM
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Friends≠romantic/sexual relationship I wish more people understood this. And, of course, you always get the "Well you can meet a partner through friends!" when, in reality, this all a matter of luck and being in the right place at the right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:53 AM
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what? I've never heard of that being an issue women have had that issue
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:34 AM
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what? I've never heard of that being an issue women have had
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:06 AM
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One can be here for purely entertainment purposes, but also occasionally find a kernel of wisdom every now and then. Doesn't happen super often, mind you, but it does happen
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:05 AM
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Nobody is arguing that it did?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:29 AM
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based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:29 AM
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These people are allergic to numbers and statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:47 AM
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In my own personal experience, if a woman ends up wanting to split the bill, it generally means she's not interesting in taking things any further or seeing me again. Not saying that that's the case for all women, nor am I saying that every guy who's had that happen sees the date go nowhere. But I and other men can say we've detected a pattern
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:46 AM
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It's very difficult to feel bad for guys like that when they inevitably fail. One is a male catfish, the other did a double whammy. Talked about politics on a first date (not an automatic dealbreaker if both parties are mutually interested), and then wouldn't stfu about it and let you get a word in. Dumbasses
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 09:14 AM
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I mean, I don't hate sex workers. Indifferent if anything. I don't have any particular opinion on them. It's baffling to me why it's illegal in some of the Western world, because I think some folks could benefit from it, both the sex workers and the men who consort with them. Where'd you come to this conclusion that men hate sex workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:08 AM
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What the hell does that even mean? Looks are the first thing anyone notices. All of your other strengths aren't going to be apparent until after somoene has shown initial interest...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:04 AM
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You're putting forth a ton of very strong assertions with no real evidence to back them up, just your own personal experiences...which is fine, but you're saying these things with such strong conviction as if they're factual observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:48 AM
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why is it always on the man to do all the legwork?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:45 AM
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The idea of being an easy lay who also has other things going for them makes some womens' minds go into a tailspin. Two things can be true at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:44 AM
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Don't say that on reddit, though! Apparently working class people can just pick up and find a new hobby on the fly. Who knew? There's only 7 days in a week and 24 hours in a day, and I also have to sleep. Those things are set in stone...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:38 AM
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Not hating or being facetious, but your relationship/marriage story reads like a Hallmark movie. The overwhelming majority of men, and most women, will not share such experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:35 AM
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The issue is women don't always show clear and concise signs of interest. I'd argue most of the time they don't. There's also the fact that every woman is different, so what's considered flirting for one individual could just be friendliness for another.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:33 AM
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I am not "incredibly super duper attractive" If you're being approached by women, or have been approached more than once, you are probably a lot more attractive than you're letting on. Women just don't approach any and everyone they find vaguely attractive, especially multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:31 AM
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Having a social circle helps tremendously. It isn't impossible, per say, to find a partner without a social circle. But it hurts your chances greatly. I have two close friends, three, really. But two that I hang out with regularly. I also work 60 hours a week. I also have hobbies that take up some time as well. By the time my day/work week is over, I'm too exhausted and have such little time left over to just pick up a new hobby or activity and "find" a new social circle. For some of us, it just…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:28 AM
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it isn't rocket science. It isn't uncommon to find that these women who always seem to end up with shitty guys ignored the fact that these guys had more red flags than a parade in Beijing. Then they somehow find a way to attribute their shit taste in men to simply men being men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:44 AM
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awkwardly turns to neighbor "h-hey, you come here often?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:59 PM
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I can't remember, I was pretty drunk
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:19 PM
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the local methadone clinic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:16 PM
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They must do a good enough job seeing as how often men complain about being catfished. I mean do you think every one of those guys who's been catfished is oblivious?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:26 PM
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I wonder if he's aware how many of those younger women are actually bots, or just on there for entertainment and not even looking to meet up with anyone IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:25 PM
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Well, from what I've gathered, traditional malls are dying, so that's a 3rd space that will go the way of the dodo bird soon enough. A lot people, like myself, don't drink at all, so bars are out of hte question
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:05 PM
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Angry? Nah, I'm just irritated. There's a very distinct difference lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 01:50 AM
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It's has significantly less weight for a woman's SMV/RMV than it does a man's A relatively average looking woman who works at a grocery store making $35k/yr can still get married to a decent or even good quality man. An average man who works at a grocery store making the same amount? Good luck lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:12 PM
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Your 22 y/o brother is either grossly oversimplifying things or he's oblivious to how good looking and overall charming he is. Lots of men will buy women dinner and it will lead nowhere, for a variety of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:10 PM
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In other words, you're just making shit up with zero evidence to support it. If you make a claim, you have to provide something, anything to sell it, otherwise nobody has any reason to take your claim seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:07 PM
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I must have misunderstood you. I thought you were trying to disagree with me Yes, I'm aware that churches have social events. I'm just saying people go for different reasons, some more common than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:26 AM
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Socializing and commiserating with other people =/= on the prowl for ass
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:03 AM
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I don't know anybody nor have I ever known anyone who went to any sort of church event on the prowl for some ass lol I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I sincerely doubt it's nearly as commonplace as you're making it out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:33 AM
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A whole lot of fucking happens at churches.. it’s either you know about it happening or you don’t citation needed That was the easiest place to get pussy in the teen years. We would spend so much time socializing after church every week and were all horny teenagers being told not to do something That's just called teenagers being teenagers. Church itself has very little to do with it except make it a tad bit easier to be around folks your own age, thus increasing the chances. You can substitute …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:19 AM
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I don't think that's true at a lot of churches It's true for the overwhelming majority of churches, let's not kid ourselves here. Jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:18 AM
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It's not rare and hardly even prohibited What church do you people go to where casual sex is not only not rare but also not prohibited ? At the very least it's heavily frowned upon. TF?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:18 AM
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Work is a hard second but then again you many people don’t date where they work aka don’t shit where you eat. Which is interesting, because there was a time where isn't wasn't all that unusual for people to meet their partner/spouse through work
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:14 AM
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Good luck convincing non-religious people to come there. I know there are probably a handful, or maybe a little less, but most of us are, at the very least, skeptical of anything that even has a whiff of religion. So...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:11 AM
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That depends, if it started off in person and then circumstances caused it to move to LDR, then I think it could work, in theory. But we've also seen numerous instances of shit collapsing over time when things move from in person to LDR. I also don't believe that relationships that are solely LDR - where the individuals haven't even met in person, or have maybe met once in total - are real relationships. I don't think they're valid. They're the ultimate mark of desperation when it comes to settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:53 AM
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Your entire premise is flawed from the very start, my friend. Nobody is forced to engage in any relationship they don't want. It's entirely by choice. It always has been
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:51 AM
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There’s a certain amount of self improvement you can do, but that gets you nowhere if you don’t meet the right person Finally someone says it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:10 AM
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This reads like some shit off of a brochure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:10 AM
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Not happening in this lifetime or the next. Quit wishing for a reality that will never exist
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:30 AM
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Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:26 AM
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I wish I could give you an award for this post. Finally a halfway decent explanation. Jesus H. Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:26 AM
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Yes, i do Ok, where's your evidence? If that's just an opinion, that's also fine. But surely it must be based in something? Also think about STDs, sex workers can be up to 90 times more likely to have them I agree with you on that one. STDs are a very real concern and should be considered by anyone who's thinking about hiring an escort/prostitute. I would assume high end, expensive escorts don't have as much of a high rate. But that's just an assumption, I've no evidence to back up my claim. Lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:36 AM
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The hygiene issue is still present In what sense? Do you think non-sex workers are somehow more hygienic ? What's your evidence? It probably makes you either desperate or socially inept (or both) In some cases, yes! In others, perhaps not. There are a plethora of reasons why men choose to engage in hiring sex workers, those two are merely a couple among many. It's also weird af Personal opinion. Which you are entitled to, but it ultimately doesn't mean anything outside of yourself. Remember, pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:22 AM
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they’re happier than ForeverAlone right perhaps in the short term (and is it even real happiness? or just denial and rationalization?), but eventually the reality of the situation will dawn on them and it won't end well for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:57 AM
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flair changed, happy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:55 AM
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Rape? What the fuck? Where did rape come into the equation? Are you really asserting that engaging in sex workers is some sort of rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:55 AM
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I'd be a bit pissed in my mid fifties at some guy who thought my count of 2 indicated promiscuity... rightfully so, i would be too if I was in your shoes. Luckily... but there's guys out there who would think that there are not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:54 AM
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If you live in a country where it's legal or engaged in hiring sex workers while visiting a country where it was legal, would it be as much of an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:51 AM
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Not saying I don't believe you, but even among women who are more promiscuous, more than a dozen or so men in 7 days is absurdly high number of people. Do you have any idea how many that is? That isn't promiscuity, that's some sort of psychological problem. No normal functioning human being, high libido or not, behaves in that manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:48 AM
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Here's a curveball for ya. Not all women have had a hoe phase
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:46 AM
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Some women enjoy sex I know, it's a crazy thing, ain't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:16 AM
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That's quite an assertion. What's your reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:16 AM
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Are you insane? Not being attracted to overweight women doesn't mean they're objectifying women's appearances. Jesus christ. Humans are visual creatures, people are attracted to certain features, and are not attracted to others. That word is thrown around so often that it's become practically meaningless. Newsflash: Most people are not attracted to overweight people, man or woman. It's unhealthy and it just doesn't look good, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 03:11 AM
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Those people are what we call "morons" "idiots" "numbskulls" shall I go on?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:27 AM
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The men here have the expectation that if a woman is not enthusiastic about sex on the first date it means she fucked Chad on the first date and is not attracted to you. You've completely missed the entire narrative. Not all women are like this, perhaps not even an overwhelming majority. But there are a lot of women who have slept with AT LEAST ONE guy on the first date, upon first meeting them, or the second date...just because they wanted to and they were attracted to him. At least one. I'm no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:25 AM
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that doesn't mean a whole lot. A lot of women aren't married to men they are attracted to, or they settled significantly. Not saying men don't also do the same, but it's far more women that settle than men IMHO People get married for a variety of reasons, doesn't necessarily reflect the health of the relationship or the reasons as to why said relationship started.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:20 AM
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There are men that will date, love and cherish you. Attractive ones at that and other lies people tell themselves to feel better about their failures
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:50 AM
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What do you get for opening the door for a stranger at Starbucks That's...an absurdly bad comparison A basic courtesy and kind gesture that you should extend to everyone is in no way comparable to paying for a first date as some sort of show of goodwill and etiquette. Give me a break
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:47 AM
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But it's also $15 I won't be getting back if it ultimately leads nowhere. That shit adds up quick if you happen to be a guy who is actively dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:45 AM
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I think you have a very reasonable and logical approach to the whole "who pays for what" conundrum, but unfortunately, many people won't see the value in that line of thinking. Which is why it's such a crapshoot when it comes up, because it very well could determine whether or not there will be a second date
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:44 AM
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Perhaps for you and your personal experiences, but for a lot of men, arguably majority of us, it's a YMMV kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:42 AM
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Sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:10 AM
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That's a bit of an absurd conclusion to come to... What's your definition of "dysfunctional" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:04 AM
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What's your definition of an "overly experienced" man?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:03 AM
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Only a couple are legitimately ugly Press X for doubt Most are very average-looking, They probably weren't nearly as average looking as you're playing them off to be, then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:02 AM
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What do you know about the lives of average joe men that supports your assertion that your life would be almost exactly the same as it would be now?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:59 AM
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a few examples =/= your whole life Just admit you can't answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:54 AM
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1) have a fighting chance against my assailant not necessarily 2) highly likely not be raped Ok, I'll give you that one... 3) likely not be tortured based on what, exactly? I could safely travel in more places throughout the world. No, not everywhere, but many more places than as a woman alright, I'll give you that one as well Beauty and sexuality wouldn't be the main things that I'm valued for as a human being You're correct! Because, as a man, you wouldn't be valued for anything! Nobody gives …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:51 AM
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you're a terrible troll...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:44 AM
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You say that with such conviction, yet you couldn't be any more incorrect. Your knowledge gaps are painfully apparent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:42 AM
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I'm just saying, please don't extrapolate this to all of the women you get involved with. There are indeed plenty of women out there who love sex but only within the confines of a relationship. I'm just saying there are also a shit-ton of women who say they love sex, but will make you wait, despite having let another dude hit it prior who she didn't feel the need to make wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:11 AM
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I get turned off by women that make me wait is because I always assume its because they arent attracted to me enough to sleep on the first date To be fair, that isn't an unreasonable assumption. Now, obviously, this doesn't speak for all women, or maybe not even the overwhelming majority. But there are a lot of women who have slept with AT LEAST ONE guy the first time they met or on the 2nd date simply because they wanted to, and didn't make the guy do any serious waiting. So I would probably be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:52 AM
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Absolutely not. My mom is amazing and I don't know what I would do without her...but she would not survive in this dating environment we live in now
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:37 AM
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If a black pilled person did stumble into a relationship and that doesn't happen. Nobody who ends up black pilled "stumbles" into a relationship. You may as well be coming up with a hypothetical where fire becomes cold. It's an unreasonable and outlandish scenario. Hell, most men in general just don't stumble into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:30 AM
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yeah, wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:12 AM
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"fully human" So not being attracted to certain types of men = not seeing them as fully human writes down notes got it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:12 AM
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Men date the women they can a lot of the time, despite their desires. They are aware that they realistically can't do better. Women just simply won't want anything to do with a lot of men that are in their league, lookswise... Obviously this isn't a universal and absolute truth, but you see many examples of this in modern dating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:10 AM
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use the search bar on the sub
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:09 AM
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they will not be at all happy should women start objectifying them at an equal level I can tell you right now that you couldn't be any more incorrect. You're projecting a woman's mindset onto men. We don't think like women, and we don't have the same fears and concerns that women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:07 AM
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You're really assuming women actively put stock into men's dating success. As if it occupies rent space in their heads or some shit. Some women don't want men to have success in dating. Most women don't give a shit about men, including but not limited to their dating prospects. I think men who think women have any active feelings towards most men's dating success are projecting their own feelings onto women. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. Women just don't give a fuck either way. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 06:14 AM
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Most people, at the very least, find their jobs to be tolerable at best. Also, regarding which part of dating feels like work. How about all of it? It isn't necessarily the talking part. I can talk to someone about dumb shit for two hours and then go home and forget they ever existed. Dating feels like a job market where the system almost feels rigged
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:00 AM
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In theory, that would be the perfect way to handle the situation. In reality, what we would get is a shit ton of even more men that are still single long-term... I and many other guys don't really bother with women who won't/can't reciprocate, and, I won't lie, it sure as hell hasn't helped my dating life in any way. In the event that I do end up with someone, I'll be happier in the long term. But my prospects are far smaller
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:57 AM
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