Quarok Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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0	Fleshing out the straw feminist. I can't believe you think I'm spouting conspiracy theories. Feminism is defined by The advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men There is nothing similar to the black panthers and the KKK. These groups hated the other and actively worked against each other. Feminists do not hate men. Some feminists hate men. You wouldn't condemn black people as criminals, so why would you condemn feminists as men-hating bitches?	/r/MensRights	04/02/13 10:37 PM
0	Fleshing out the straw feminist. It's a straw man because I cited judgements about both sexes and then said men have more power which you take to mean I think 'PATRIARCHY'. No, I mean by any verifiable means of measuring power (money or political influence) both in which men are way ahead. Thus, it is a straw man argument. This is simple. This argument is a little like having an argument with an atheist about the positive value of Christianity and all they do is cite the extreme things that famous people do or say. I do underst…	/r/MensRights	01/02/13 03:47 PM
1	Fleshing out the straw feminist. but while the levels of discrimination are similar (all men are pigs; women are all frivolous bitches) men have more power with which to discriminate Ohh I see, now we're going to unfounded sexist conspiracy theories, you're dressed up renamed version of patiarchy theory. Don't worry none of "teh evil menz" are sitting around a conference room table in cheap suits wringing their hands plotting a way to oppress you, your mental instability is not a good foundation for sociopolitical theory. This …	/r/MensRights	01/02/13 03:24 PM
1	Fleshing out the straw feminist. Feminism's history on the other hand is dotted with figures who advocated supremacy, hate, and spewed vitriol at men until the point in society where some men quite literally hate their own damn guts for being born. Meanwhile the majority of subscribers to the ideology that is feminism are just happy little cultists steadily drinking the punch with not a single thought or fucking care, thinking all is well. You are literally doing what you say is bad about feminism > men towards feminism. Nice. …	/r/MensRights	01/02/13 02:42 PM
1	Fleshing out the straw feminist. Yet are taught in gender studies classes as relevant and held up and praised as important feminist thinkers. I haven't ever taken a gender study class, but the people I know who have certainly don't talk about these people in terms of reverence. they are the only feminists visible They are not the only ones who are doing this - the New Statesman in the UK is probably the primary voice for feminism here, and almost everything that is said is completely reasonable. Maybe it's different in the US, …	/r/MensRights	01/02/13 05:54 AM
2	Fleshing out the straw feminist. Fine. In my world, that's what feminism means, and I come from a world where there are a lot of ardent feminists who think about it in that way. In fact, thinking about it in terms of 'parties' is just wrong. Gender equality for all. That's all that matters in this arena.	/r/MensRights	01/02/13 05:38 AM
2	Fleshing out the straw feminist. I agree. I am happy to assign 'gender equalitist' to myself. This term just happens to mean the same thing as feminism where I'm from - because part of the problem feminism is dealing with is getting women to let go of the privileges they have OVER men.	/r/MensRights	01/02/13 05:37 AM
-2	Fleshing out the straw feminist. Firstly, I never said the ideal is flawed. I disagree, because I think in an ideal society men and women should have equal opportunities, which they currently do not because of oppressive gender stereotypes. In my life, I have perceived evidence of men benefiting from gender stereotypes and evidence of women being put at a disadvantage from gender stereotypes. I have also seen the opposite - but while the levels of discrimination are similar (all men are pigs; women are all frivolous bitches) me…	/r/MensRights	01/02/13 05:32 AM
1	Fleshing out the straw feminist. Note the word usually. It can, also, refer to the dead, but there is a usage of the word that focuses on suffering - which is what she is doing here - and you can not say that the dead are suffering. It's bad, I agree, I'm just saying it doesn't belong on that list, in such terrible company, is all.	/r/MensRights	01/02/13 05:13 AM
-1	Fleshing out the straw feminist. Yes, I agree - it is badly phrased and a silly thing to say, but I also think it has no place on that list.	/r/MensRights	01/02/13 05:10 AM
-1	Fleshing out the straw feminist. Yes, and I said that the meaning of the word victim there means 'one who carries the ongoing burden of suffering' ERGO the living, hence the quoting out of context. Feel free to disagree with this definition of victim (I think it's trash) but that seems to be what the sentence implies.	/r/MensRights	01/02/13 05:07 AM
10	Fleshing out the straw feminist. As a feminist, the biggest problem with feminism is feminism. It's a similar problem that anarchism has. Any reasonable discussion gets bogged down in the "BURN ALL THE PROPERTY/PENISES"	/r/MensRights	31/01/13 07:42 PM
-2	Fleshing out the straw feminist. No dude, you misread what I said. Read again. War is the worst. Men suffer the worst from it. I know.	/r/MensRights	31/01/13 07:27 PM
-9	Fleshing out the straw feminist. I am a man and I self-define as a feminist - the goals of which I believe are aligned with MRA. These feminists you have cited are not ones any active feminists I know (and I know a lot) agree with. I think the Hilary Clinton one is taken out of context. Women are the primary victims of war because the men die, and usually victims are still alive - so in the sense she means (the ongoing suffering of a generation) it is true. As a statement that is horrendously oblivious to the societal pressures…	/r/MensRights	31/01/13 07:17 PM
4	In response to a front page post saying "If I'm a woman walking down the street naked, you STILL don't have the right to rape me." I'm not sure which feminists you're talking to here. That's like saying 'republicans often define the best state as one where abortion is punished in the same way as murder'. Some do, sure; the radical, stupid ones, but not all.	/r/MensRights	31/01/13 07:05 PM