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Then pray tell, what did you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 05:35 PM
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Calling someone a misogynist because they think women are literal children in both body and mind like the OP does is the very definition of misogyny. If you are trying to make me feel bad for calling a misogynist a misogynist you have a tough challange ahead of you, good luck lil' boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 10:31 AM
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Yes, exactly, because what you posted isn't something that can be reasonably discussed. I'm not the only one in this thread who thinks what you are saying here is just insane/inane. If everyone here thinks you are saying is insane, even the other misogynists, then maybe you are saying insane shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 04:31 PM
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This post is a mess, I thought it was going to be a discussion of feminine vs masculine behaviours in a relationship, and I was going to say something along the lines of that 'femininity' is mostly a social construct yadayadayada. But this is a whole new level of misogyny. For some reason you are really homing in on the physical features instead of behaviour and you are literally making the observation that women are like children in not just mind but also body. You also keep saying things like …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:58 PM
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He made her feel uncomfortable and didn't back off when his friend told him to- Like I said, he should have listened to his friend Yes, he should've. He is clearly not equipped to read social cues from women, so the least he could do is follow his friends guidance on it. Persisting after that is kinda stupid and can get you bad results. he was 31 and she was 19 Is this bad in of itself? No, it isn't necessarily bad to hit on women who are young but definitely adults. But continuing to hit on tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 09:15 PM
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specifically prejudice against people with autism Ah ok, that wasn't clear to me as you hadn't mentioned the word autism in your post once, which kinda made me think you were talking about something completely different. Sorry for the confusion!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 10:31 PM
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Are you really incapable of drawing parallels? What kind off asshole question is that? Myabe the guy I replied to should be more mindfull of how he words things and maybe I am not a native English speaker so confusion is easily when someone keeps talking about 'bearing witness' (Christian thing?) and othe religons terms but never ever mentions the word autism. Maybe I was asking a polite question, and maybe you needn't be this fucking aggressive to me for just asking clarification in a polite ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 10:30 PM
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We were talking about autism, not religion. Are you sure you are in the right thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 08:38 AM
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Well, this whole experience was so bad for her she turned into 'nun-mode' so I guarantee she is probably a little unbalanced herself. Which is ok, but it is hypocritical for her to flame autism this much because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 08:36 AM
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how to improve themselves By applying sociopathic techniques on innocent people? I don't despise 'low value men,' I despise the kind that thinks they can become 'high value men' by tearing down others due to their own inadequacies. They end up making themselves even lower than the low.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 11:15 AM
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Instead of taking this as something that reflects on all women I think it is wiser to conclude that your wife is an idiot who plays silly immature games and is using her femininity as a shield because she is a coward to really be what she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:27 PM
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government seizes (...) redistributes it equally to everyone According to their needs, and with consent. The point is that everyone has a voice, not just a single class of people, that would be fascism. Women being made voiceless and being made subservient to men is literally the opposite aim of socialism as how it is understood by the world, except maybe America apparently where people just think 'governmant does things tyrannically' means socialism. Literally the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 04:59 PM
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This wouldn't be sharing though, obviously, I think you kind of messed up the comparison. Nothing you said there would be okay with any socialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 11:47 AM
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The only acceptable solution to these guys seems to be giving men power over women so they can demand that women's sexuality serve their needs. Which, IDK bro, sounds kinda socialist to me. I am not sure I am getting what you are saying here, what you describe doesn't sound like socialism at all but like fascism. I struggle to understand how giving men power over women might be considered 'socialist' in any way shape or form?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 11:44 PM
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It is kinda telling you can't muster a single argument against what was said and only resort to a pretty 'for the jugular' ad hominem. Nothing what you have said in your post belongs in a polite debate, it is extremely spitefull, personal, and beside the point. In light of what you are accusing the other person of this is pretty ironic. Maybe take your own advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 11:41 PM
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My point is that 'traditionalist' is just a mask for what is actually almost always 'layer of general resentment towards women and their agency.'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:57 PM
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The former because they believe marriage is for life no matter what and the latter because they resent that women can unilaterally walk away Isn't reason one just the excuse for what is actually pretty much always reason two?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:21 PM
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Correct, due to the aformentioned problem of 'objectivity vs embodied knowledge' by Haraway. It is not the idea to choose for the Other, it is to give Voice to the Other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:00 PM
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When you describe your ideology as inherently good That is an almost kiddy like reduction of communism, saying it is just 'good' and therefore infallible. The definition does require the system of communism be not upheld by authorative and fascist tactics, and personally i think that does qualify as 'a good thing' as if it isn't it devolves into fascism within years. But so does any system upheld by fascist tactics, you can't blame communism for that. Democracy can be perverted just like that. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:46 PM
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I've you've already ignorantly made up your mind aren't able to entertain a polite intellectual discussion I have no more reason to talk to you. It also makes you seem like a dumbass/weak debater to others reading this conversation, so my work here is done. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:39 PM
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I have criticism just like Chomsky when it comes to post-modernism but that doesn't mean that the whole of post-modernism is bad and useless. It is a tool, not an ethical system or whatever you seem to think it is that it can be 'bad.' Like calling a spade 'bad.' Not knowing this kind of basic criticism within science makes you seem like an uneducated person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:37 PM
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The guy I'm talking to? Probably not. But others can read what I wrote as well, and more importantly, the lame excuses the other guy kept using.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:35 PM
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If you think post-modernism is 'despised' by 'serious academics' you are most certainly not a serious academic yourself in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:11 PM
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I'm not saying they don't have a feminist heart, I am saying that their academic knowledge on feminism is lacking, and I'd think you would agree with me on that except for that you want those people to be the spokespersons for the feminist movement because even you can see how they are incorrect. Where you are wrong is saying that just because they misuse the theory the theory itself is crap. That is a shitty argument if I ever saw one, you should try debating the ideas and not 'some people', wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:08 PM
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Maybe you feminists shouldn't make up meanings and that change them to suit your needs. Is that a criticism of the whole academic field of philsophy ever since the Greeks invented it? Stop being anti-intellectualist and start reading please. For example take toxic masculinity which when originally coined meant men gender roles where harmful to men. Then it was changed to men's behavior expectations where harmful to everyone. And now its basically masculinity is toxic. That definition hasn't chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:58 PM
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You are quite literally turning this around 180<sup>o,</sup> I wasn't the one asking for sources, the guy I was talking to was asking for sources. I appreciate your sentiment though, I completely 100% agree with it, the other guys comes of as a bit of a pussy just like you said for whinging about not wanting to engage all the links I gave them once I gave him what he was asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:51 PM
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You afraid of putting in some effort? Just google Cyborg manifesto by Haraway it is famous enough to be able to find. Someone trained in philosophical academic discourse wouldn't find it too hard to find an article that is relevant though I concede that to the laymen like yourself it might be a bit bewildering.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:08 PM
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you want me to read a sci fi socialist feminist manifesto Jesus Christ you illiterate just read a single text of feminist literature I am not going to argue with someone who doesn't even know what is being discussed quite frankly. Cyborgs manifesto isn't sci-fi, that is just the name and since it is one of the most important texts of feminist literature of the last decades it is really telling that you do not know this, You sound like Christian whose only experience with 'the theory evolution th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 01:04 PM
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I read your link, all it said was that Teddy Roosevelt was a racist prick. I gave you a link to a site of links on google scholar right, not just one of the articles that probahly can't be accesed because you don't have the academic clearance to do so? If so, that is my mistake, sorry for that. Some of these links should work even for someone who doesn't have acces to academic literature through university-priviliges. Also, found this by just googling 'haraway patriarchy' on google scholar, teac…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:26 PM
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There is no reason to quote sources because it literally is in almost every academic feminist text there is. You asking for a 'source' just proves that you haven't read a single academic feminist text. Go and read a 'cyborgs manifesto' by Haraway and then get back to me. Should be easy enough to find even if you aren't able to acces jstor and the like as I assume you probably can't (or hope, as it would imply that you are not lazy and ignorant by choice).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:20 PM
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If a Christian makes an incoherent point against evolution due to his misunderstanding of evolution a response like 'you don't even know what you are talking about' is perfectly aceptable, and so is this response. It is not our duty to diligently explain what words mean to you guys since you will just pivot and claim it is an opinion of the individual you are talking too but not what you think the word means because of your expererience with tumblr-feminists who are just a page more well versed …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:14 PM
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Stop reading tumblr posts by teenage morons and start reading academic feminist literature and you would know how dumb your question about sources and links is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 12:01 PM
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fat and weird chicks that refuse to date fat and weird guys Which is exactly what my message is to the one who started this debate. If you think it is only the women and not the men who do this, why respond to me and not the guy who actualyl oppositionally disagrees with you? Additionally, you started off this convo rather hostile, you could've just said that you agree with my point that it is unfair to pin it on the fat men alone, and then expand. As it is I was kinda confused because you were …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 12:05 PM
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This is true of both sexes, I do not see the point of trying to pin this on men only. What is your argument here, stated plainly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 11:26 PM
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I think you kinda drtopped the ball on your wording of your topic. By just saying 'men here' you are actually generalizing the entirety of male subscribers of this sub, whether they be red/blue/purple of black. Is that realyl what you mean, or where you thinking of a specific subset of men or ideology on this board. If you stand by your choice of words I have no further questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 11:10 PM
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Lol, pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 06:09 PM
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I rhink you really undserestimate how much the vast majority of men could clean up if there was any sort of effort put into it. You are talking about it as if it is as rare as a diamond. It really isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 12:50 PM
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So he had ugly secondary/tertiary characteristics. What is your point really? Are you just getting of on being a contrarian or something? Or do you think you are so ugly that no one will ever love you and are now taking that frustration out on strangers on the internet or something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 02:39 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 03:54 PM
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I told you in the first comment, and you have managed to only make a single argument since then (which applied equally to you and now even more), the rest have been just dodges, wild personal jabs that miss their mark and now some concern trolling. Except the last one (which really tells me that you are just unable to actually argue in good faith), just as I predicted you would do in my first couple of comments. You could've proven me wrong by actually making an argument on the subject at hand, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 03:37 PM
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If I am to summarize your broad position it's that attraction and mate preferences are almost completely cultural and evolutionary pressures over time have little bearing. Is that about right? I appreciate that you are doing the 'If I understand correctly you are saying X,' that is proper debatign etiquette, but I am sorry I have to point out that your are mistaken a bit this this. My point isn't that those can't be evolutionary, my point is that they might not always be. I already said this in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 03:25 PM
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You just keep replying even after you said your goodbyes, proving your own point once again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 02:32 PM
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angry response ..Angry? That's the projection I was talking about earlier. I used to do this projection thing a lot You still are, so I return your pathetically insinscere good luck wish to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 02:04 PM
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I have zero alt accounts. Alt accounts sound like a hastle to me. Now debate or be insecure somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 01:56 PM
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No U
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 01:40 PM
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No I already accused you of that ages ago, that simply isn't acceptable as a defense. But you don't seem to understand anything about what is or isn't acceptable in a discussion, which was my intial criticism. You are even more of an intellectually dishonest coward than I at first thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 01:28 PM
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I love how you are only able to show defensive snarkiness and still somehow think you have the upper hand. Also, it is midday where I live, you should really stop making wild jabs because you suck at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 01:09 PM
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Am I following correctly? Absolutely. Evolutionary psychology is a shit field that hasn't given us, as of yet, any theories that are significantly robust. It has been a breeding ground for what I earlier referred to as cyclical reasoning, which is basically 'I notice this which leads me to conclude this must be a biological imperative,' you yourself have given two examples of this reasoning and it is simply not very scientific but based on culture driven reactionary sentiments. It is philosophy …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 01:08 PM
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Why do you think I started talking to you? I saw an easy mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 12:47 PM
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You keep replying, so on some level you most certainly do care about my opinions. You said it yourself, you only respond if you care right? When it comes to my 'feelings,' I don't recall asking you to care about them, but I guess I appreciate how much you want to keep them into this debate by bringing them up yourself mutliple times while I myself stayed perfectly silent on them and haven't referenced them upromted at all. Guess you are a gentler soul than you pretend to be, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 11:41 PM
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Why can’t men and women have their own innate preferences and not be labeled sexist? That's the thing though, saying men and women have innate (and I want to stress that word here because it is the most important one in the sentence) preferences is sexist as per definition. We were discussing stereotyping though in the exchange before, is that maybe why the confusion came up? I see stereotype and sexist as completely seperate words with their own meaning. Idk ask most of the men here and they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 11:37 PM
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I believe I did mention it was a self-perpetuating stereotype. I mean, that is the problem we are in right now, large parts of the world are undergoing rapid development and the big societal game changers in the West are still relatively new as well. 'Generally true' is an observation tied to not only how people define themselves which is very much influenced by these cultural sexual/gender stereotypes but also by the perspective of the one making the observation whcih is also influenced by reig…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:33 PM
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So why did you respond to that guy if you didn't care, huh? If you really didn't, you wouldn't be bothered and just not replied, but you did, and you could only do it with a flimsy wild jab. What qwas it that he said that hurt you, it is ok, you can put it into words if you try.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:08 PM
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Hahaha, I just told you what you were saying should be directed against the argument and not the person, because it makes you a bad debater and a coward. You are the sensitive one of us, completely shutting down any and all rational debate because you just can't seem to step over your feelings and must resort to wild guesses that you can't even back up and have already been contradicted. I want rational debate, this is a sub for debate, and I am informing you of that. Now debate or be insecure s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:03 PM
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Nu-uh! So we are doing to yes-no argument now? Don't think that is a good choice of yours to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:52 PM
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That's not really an argument, it is just a wild assumption used as a personal attack on the person you arguing with and not their argument. Doesn't look very good on you and kind off kills any meaningful debate and turns it into a shitslinging contest, like people saying you must just be very insecure to try and dodge a debate like that, and you wouldn't want that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:41 PM
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That sounds like it might be a bit of a sexist stereotype. I mean, we live in an age where we are still influenced by these stereotypes and people tend to cling onto these gender roles but I think people are human and that the need for a present and engaged partner is, though variable on an individual level, not fundamentally different between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:38 PM
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Am I correct in assuming that because all four of your arguments apply equally to 'career men' they are the worst 'type' of people to date as well? Follow up question: why did you explicitly made a post about 'career women' when you could've just as easily made this post about 'career people?'
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 03:02 PM
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Yeah you are just being defensive and accusatory right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 01:26 PM
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I already agreed to disagree mr Mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 01:25 PM
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I am the person you were talking to originally. Just thought you would want a response, but sure, I will leave you to it then, no reason to get defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 12:16 PM
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I am not seeing any reasoning for that conclusion so I am regretfully forced to disagree with you. Agree to disagree then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 12:10 PM
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I do not think you understand, I am living in a country where this is already the case. No one is 'forced,' it is just that a discussion about prenups can be started and is 'expected' of a young couple socially. Not getting a prenup means people at work etc. will ask you what is wrong or say stuff like 'huh you are much more traditional than I thought.' So again, I want to impress on you that what you are kind of painting as an impossibility is already a reality elsewhere. As to how this situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 12:04 PM
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I am not actually, because there are more than two sides to this debate. My side is basically: if only prenups were accepted as normal and not an insult, this whole debate itself becomes meaningless. That's why it is a third side, I do not side with either the yes or no my position is that this debate shouldn't even exist. Edit: Additionally, my position woud very likely lead to a situation in which Bezos would not lose simply half of his money to his ex-spouse on divorce, so it differs in praci…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:23 PM
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I'm sorry?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:18 PM
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I am just really happy that I live in a country in which prenuptial agreements are the norm and not the exception. The whole 'divorce-rape' argument of TRP falls flat on it's face because of this. Ironically (well the opposite actually) this is a country that is considered 'feminist' compared to American society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 02:10 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:57 PM
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Do young men also not deserve any sympathy for dating crazy borderline bimbo's when they were young?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 01:11 PM
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Ok, then let me put it this way. X says: Men and women both do this Y says: Men do it much more than women do, so it is a male thing X says: In both men and women this is a minority and though I will agree for the sake of the argument that men do it a bit more (probably) so no it isn't specifically masculine Y says: Yeah well when men do it it is different. That's why I said goalposts. Every time RP makes an observation of difference between men and women it is easily countered by the fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 07:40 PM
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Are you aware you are just now moving the goalposts in this post of yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:15 PM
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You are talking out of your ass, making up complete bullshit in order to reinforce your shitty reactionary theories and probably don't even have a PhD, not even at 'the school of life.'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:43 AM
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I'd say it is more in the 5%-10% area. Still, 20% is small enough to make me question why it is considered as different from when women do it on a gender basis. In both cases we are talking about a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 11:40 AM
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How many men do actually manage to 'spin plates' according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 11:37 PM
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You making it so that women have different reasons than men for dating unstable people (even going so far as to claim they are completely unrelated) is very much your fantasy of the situation, and a case of special pleading. Men don't date women who are unstable because they 'think they are good in bed,' they date them because they are not boring and exciting, part of that which appeals to some men but probably doesn't even register for most is the promise of exciting sex life as well. What you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 01:59 PM
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Is that a yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:47 AM
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Why is this masculine personality trait attractive to men too then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 10:46 AM
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And when called 'playing hard to get' it is the Nr1 'gimmick' to attract men. That's my point, there is no real underlying difference in this, only a slight difference in expression. Potayto-Potahto.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 10:17 PM
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Are you saying that women like unstable guys exactly because of the instability in of itself? Is that really what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 04:29 PM
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And men don't? Men choose the silent but boring girl over the crazy bimbo? Lol, every critique of women by RPers can be applied to men in almost equal measure, just with gender differences when it comes to specific expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 01:57 PM
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Yeah, that's pretty much my point. I have no idea where this 'men don't choose their sexual partners' comes from. Are women assigned to men or something? What is this crap?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 01:54 PM
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This argument only makes sense if men just ask any woman they come across. Men choose who they ask don't they? Am I taking crazy pills?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 01:46 PM
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Maybe you should try being a bit less passive in your attentions then, if you truly believe men 'don't choose their sexual partners.'
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 06:52 PM
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If you are referring to it as duty sex you are already deciding that it can't be fun, else you wouldn't call it duty sex. Ofcourse no one likes sex that is considered a 'duty' that's why it is a duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 06:49 PM
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So what are you saying, women shouldn't be angry when held accountable, they should suffer the same as men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 06:30 PM
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Men don't choose their sexual partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 06:23 PM
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in crazy To me, that tells me that even though the man is chastised the woman is also characterized as 'just crazy,' which is not too different from 'he is just an asshole' in the opening of this thread right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 10:50 AM
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Does that work the other way around as well? Do men need to hold other men more accountable as well for choosing the wrong women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 07:05 PM
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I just think it very much depends on the type of emotions. Men are more aggressive and more impulsive. What I was taught in theatre, and in direct conflict with my studies in psychology is that anger and sadness aren't actually different emotions depending on how you define emotions; they absolutely differ in presentation but when you boil it down to the basics they are both ways to approach the actual feeling/emotion of 'frustration.' I can tell you that this revelation really improved my actin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:04 PM
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You are kind of espousing the view that emotions are stupid or at least an inconvenience and that they should be kept inside and that this is the mature way of dealing with emotions. This isn't the mature way of dealing with emotions, it is called repression and it means that given time, the emotions will come out anyway and usually with more force and not always tied to the problem at hand but stemming from simmering traumas quietly burning from the inside. In my experience, men are every bit a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 02:52 PM
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BPD is a very serious mental illness, and I understand not being able/willing to support a partner with this illness, but honestly the tone of these posts were very ugly. I think the tone is something you can understand a lot better if you yourself have ever had a relationship with someone with BPD. I can definitely see someone who has had a relationship with a BPD girl turning to RP afterwards, BPD in relationships is the worst and has caused a lot of trauma all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 01:44 PM
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That is to be expected, it is one of the first psychological test that gained massive popularity due to semi-scientific air about it and good pr. It has been exposed as shitty since then though. Why it is still used is because it is fun and because the general public who aren't psychologists are prone to misusing psychological theories in popular magazines for instance, or just because it has already become the standard and reactions are slow. It's not perfect but it's infinitely better than ast…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:53 AM
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Again, I have no interested in debating astrology vs MTBI, no one is really, both are shyte. The whole point of my comments is not comparing MTBI to astrolgy but telling you people that such a discussion is worthless because both are unscientific and esoteric. To which degree which is which is completely irrelevant to anyone. Stop debating forks vs knives and just eat your soup with a spoon already.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:47 AM
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You are completely misunderstanding my point, you are arguing with me as if I am defending astrology. I am not. Both astrolgy and MTBI are inadequate, I will not be dragged into a race in which I have no horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:44 AM
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Look, I think it is great that you dabbled in my field of psycholgy and loved the experience. That is great, it is nice to see other people enjoy the same things I do. However, I am telling you as a psych major that MTBI is outdated and unscientific because it is based on Jungian psychology which is fairly esoteric and unscientific. Sure, Jungian psychology hasn't been on the garbage pile as long as astrology has, there are still psychologists out there who work with it but they are looked down …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:42 AM
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I could link you a half dozen more from this thread. I appreciate the effort, but you don't have to, they are exactly what I suspected them to be, they are sarcastic comments. who derail every thread that mentions MBTI with the same comment. The simple reason being that MTBI just isn't worthwile enough. My argument is that on your 10 point scale astrology is a 0. Dude, you are missing the point again. No one is interested in doing an in depoth comparison between MTBI and astrology. You are debat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 11:31 AM
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Doesn't make it accurate or true in the least. Corporate workers in charge of hiring aren't exactly scientists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 11:53 PM
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MTBI is useful because it gives people a useful shorthand for discussing something as complex as personality. This is is the same argument I make for Astrology even though I think it is absolute bollocks. Knowing the elements, planets and signs can make for great personality discussions. bloopers aka egalitarians don't like categories Yet Astrology, if at all, is practiced by 'looney lefties.' That has obvious categories as well, and worse, they are predetermined at birth! Come to think of it, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 11:51 PM
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MBTI is significantly less nonsensical than astrology Look, I do not think people mean it with 100% seriousness that they believe astrology is completely comparable to MTBI, just that they are equally not accurate enough to work with. People use this figure of speech to say not that on a scale of 1-10 astrology scores the same number of usefullness or whataver you want to call this factor, merely that they both score under the treshold of 6 which would make it viable in use. If MTBI scores 4 and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 11:47 PM
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It still has the fundamental issue that it categorizes you based on when you were born Granted, but that is the theory behind it yeah? The signs at the time of your birth keep affecting you throughout your life in different ways depending on the starting influence. Venus's influence is on all of us simultaneously, it is just that what Venus means to a person who has Saggitarius on Venus or someone who has Ram on Venus is different. Anything it gets right is coincidence and gets reinforced by con…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/18 11:38 PM
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If these are the options how is it any surprise men are checking out of marriage? I mean, this is a obviously a completely hypothetical question, you don't have to pretend that this is realistic and go off making a point based on as if it were.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 04:27 PM
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I'd prefer if instead of the lowest of the low, cheating, or just serving me with papers for divorce out of the blue if she could open her mouth and communicate with me. Failing that, divorce would seem like a good option since she obviously isn't very good at communication, and communication is vital to succes in relationships. Cheating is just extreme cowardice, both a failure to communicate like an adult and putting the onus of the seperation on the other person because the cheater itself doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 04:25 PM
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I'm sorry, I checked out of this conversation days ago and do not think it is interesting enough to revisit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 12:34 AM
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Yes, fairly small. Significant in a scientific sense (they are robust), but compared to other predictors they aren't very relevant. Agreeableness in the big five, if you think about the portion under the line as the population you can see that while there is a difference in averages in the favour of women most people are about as agreeable the others, but the extremly low scores are men while the extremely high scorers are women. This skews the perception immensely. There are some new studies wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:01 AM
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I would argue that behavioral differences between men and women may also be driven by biology and genetics. Yes, I know, and I would oppose that as a sole conclusion, and I think such a conclusion stifles further inquiry in a field of study that has historically always been treated with 'this is just how things are, men are this, women are that, blablabla' . Fact is, a lot of gender differences have been enshrined as if they were a godsgiven, or, modern reinterpretation of that, as if they were …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 01:29 AM
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I said I don't think stereotypes are ok. Is that a controversial statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 12:45 AM
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Presto. The thing is, the age of aggression isn't ever really over, but it has certainly waned compared to the brutal conditions of our early ancestors, or even the feudal ancestors, and therefore what is or isn't constructive aggression has changed. Living in a society with millions of others, aggression is simply much more of liability now than it used to be, and since cultural gender expectations of aggressiveness aren't completely in line with this men tend tobe much more aggressive than the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 08:21 PM
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I was talking about general trends obviously on average, not specific people. Why would I do that, we weren't talking about individuals but about 'men' as a whole, weren't we? Do you deny that men on average tend to react with more aggression compared to women? No? Then why are you fighting me on this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 07:53 PM
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Sure, you are making the case that you can't simply use a standard of aggression and apply it to all situations equally, but you can still look at 'aggressive behaviour' across all situations and come to the conclusion that men just tend to show more aggressive behaviour compared to women in all situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 07:35 PM
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You are misunderstanding your position ceompletely. I am not trying to convicne you, you are trying to convince me. Your claim, your argument, your example. Again, you are a cowardly and intellectually dishonest debater. Good riddance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 10:03 AM
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The point is it is about context, so we can sit here and think of exceptions and special cases etc but that doesn't really make a dent in my argument, and it isn't something that is central to the greater argument of this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 10:02 AM
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Yeah, but I was taking the specific situation of a recruit in training, not this new moved goalpost. The point is it is about context, so we can sit here and think of exceptions and special cases etc but that doesn't really make a dent in my argument, and it isn't something that is central to the greater argument of this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/18 10:01 AM
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I am just showing that feminists know little about their own ideology's documents By strawmanning them. You claim feminists say something, reject what they say, and posit yourself as winner. You are intellectually dishonest, lazy and a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 01:55 PM
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No, you are positing a claim that you know what feminists mean, while you are not a feminist yourself. You are the one required to give evidence for that. You are just being lazy and I do not accept that. You make the claim, you give the evidence, do not try to make me shoulder that responsibility, that is intellectually dishonest of you. If you have 'done this before' you are sure have an example at your fingertips, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:44 PM
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The demon is in the details here Additonally, if you are a sergeant and want to motivate your troopers screaming is ok but outright physical aggression is not, or is it? What about sergeants who just shoot dissenters? So again, it is about wielding aggression in ways that are constructive according to the situation, I already told this but thanks for allowing me to elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:41 PM
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Normally, while in debate, people use arguments. Just positing claims without any argumentation like you are doing isn't actually debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:37 PM
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If that is a serious question I don't think you understand the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:35 PM
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Because to feminists. Masculinity is toxic. It is like saying toxic poison. Thanks you for conceding my point that it would not make semantic sense. But I am sad that you then draw the opposite conclusion, which is that they just must be stupid. You are arguing that feminists are saying something, the burden of proof is on you. If you were an honest debater, you should've conceded at this point that you aren't able to speak for feminists because you yourself are obviously not one. Ironically, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 01:09 AM
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I never experienced that, maybe it has something to do with the differences in our personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 01:05 AM
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that feminist definition of masculinity and toxic masculinity is the same. No they don't, and I don't either. Again, multiple answers in this very thread contradict your finding. It doesn't even make sense really, from a purely semantic view. If they are one and the same thing, why was the term 'toxic masculinity' even conceived? Edit: If what you are saying is true, feminism would be the one that came up with the term AMALT. Like, you guys are arguing that a term that implies not all men doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:46 AM
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There is no distinction between masculinity and toxic masculinity. Like many times said here by both feminists and red pills What? In this very thread multiple people are arguing that there is a distinction between the two. Why do you claim otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:41 AM
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Toxic masculinty doesn't mean that all masculinity is toxic. It means that some aspects of masculinity are toxic. In the same way, 'Toxic drinks' doesn't mean that anything that can be drunk is toxic, it means some fluids that can be ingested in the form of a refreshing drink might be toxic. Thats why the contradiction you are making here falls kinda flat, because it isn't a contradiction. If we were to get into what is seen as toxic masculinity (immediate aggression when confronted with dissent…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:39 AM
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A reason is 'Y happened because of X.' An excuse is 'Y happening because of X is a good thing that I agree with' I'm saying that I understand the mechanics that give rise to stereotypes but I disagree with that stereotypes are in any way ok because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 11:07 AM
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Thanks but no thanks you guys are already exporting it, main reason why I will be happy when America will lose it's superpower status because then looking up to America (a failing state) will finally end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 11:04 AM
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I agree, but it is a reason and not an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 06:07 PM
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so long as their actions also match what they're looking for I'd like to think it would work out that way as well, but people tend to have preconceptions about groups of people, like the group 'men.' Maybe you yourself are intelligent enough to not fall into that trap, but from personal experience I know that most people aren't good at fighting their own biases and tend to double down when facing disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:28 AM
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I have no idea what you are even trying to get at here, but I am not interested cause you aren't giving off the impression that you can debate maturely. Good bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:19 AM
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I hesitate to ask 'why' for two reasons: You are not giving of the vibe that you can handle disagreement without producing negativity. You probably aren't very good at expressing yourself because just flatly stating I am 'wrong' doesn't really communicate much in of itself. It is almost like you are just grunting in the negative really, that would be as informative. Can you even explain in words what part I am wrong about and additionally, do you have the balls to take in a position for yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:16 AM
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to single that you're discriminating Do you mean signal? How would one do that and avoid the accusation of using dog whistles? Telling people who you are and them not believing it because of their own preconceptions on you or people in 'your' group is something I am familiar with in real life, so not just a theoretical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:05 AM
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Race-baiting? I was only making the analogy for the 'dog-whistle' part because at the moment of typing I couldn't remember the word for dog whistle. I am not American so I do not have the same relationship to makign everythign a race thing. Like seriously, the option that I might be 'race-baiting' in a way didn't even cross my mind. Y'all need to chill out and not get in dug-in mode the moment anyone might say anything that might be construed as being about race.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:58 PM
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I think you misudnerstood, I wasn't as much equating race with sexuality I was making an analogy in which a man saying 'he doesn't want a wantom woman' in a culturally appropriate sentsitive way might be regarded as using 'dog-whistle' language. Hence the comparison with race, but again, in this case only for the dog-whistle part and not for anything else really.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:54 PM
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What are you communicating here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:09 PM
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I mean, y'all keep telling us that. We do? Idiots do maybe. Ever notice that when a religious guy says he doesn't want a very experienced woman, he generally doesn't get flak for it? He doesn't? So your advice is to convert to Christianity or Islam I guess? I do not think that is very practical nor ethical advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:08 PM
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Usually a fair point, but do you think that a man gently describing what slutty behaviour is isn't seen in the same way as a 'race-realist?'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 08:59 PM
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in high school I think 'those guys are idiots' applies to 80% of high school age children, so that is not a good argument to make for why it is ok women react so negatively, though I agree that it is an explanation. so long as he wasn't doing the double-standard thing I think we are getting to the core of it: women in general tend to think that men are all basically sluts themselves, they just do not get the chance to act on it. I think that 'huh, maybe the guy is rather discriminating himself' …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 08:57 PM
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You had already lowered yurself to the standard of the person I replied to, you can't go lower than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 10:21 AM
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Same goes for you edgelord.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 10:15 AM
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What an immature thing to say. Seems like you lack the perspective of why this kind of unsubstantiated attacks are not proper in a sub for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 09:38 AM
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Well, I personally think that the American justice system is kinda shyte, so I do not see the point in there not being a proper response from it. But I do think that 'this is because of too much feminism in the judicial force' is kinda the opposite of what is happening. People do not take male rape when drunk sexually not because of feminism, but because of masculine posing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:22 PM
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Or maybe I'm just paranoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:50 PM
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You keep referring to a law as the basis of your argument. It is your duty to inform your debating partner what law this is. Instead of doing that you are now moaning about it when I ask you to give me the necessary information to be able to have a debate. I shouldn't even have to ask for it, I did, and you still refuse. You don't want to debate, do you? You don't want me to read the text of that law and respond to that do you? I think that says everything about your argument that 3rd parties ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:39 PM
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Because people assume the man to be the one that initiated based on experiences, statistics and current cultural patriarchical norms. Was that a real question?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:22 PM
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the messages spread thru college campuses, and the rash of one sided accusations A logical person would ascribe this to the facts that there are simply less women who try to rape men when intoxicated and that men tend to not report sexual abuse because it devalues their masculinity. You are jumping to conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:02 PM
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I think you are completely off base here, as this applies to men equally as to women. Men aren't able to give consent when drunk either. Why are you trying to declare a double standard between sexes when there isn't one at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 12:03 PM
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He can legally, but it begets social consequences that are outside the scope of the law. I don't really see what 'free speech' has to do with this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:01 AM
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I'm not comparing technology and values, I am explaining how changing technology changes values. Values are derivative of our context, and this includes our technological context.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 01:08 PM
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Religion doesn't matter the way it once did In those days youngsters were having much more sex, much earlier. Isn't that the opposite of your point? Better to have activities and get people to care about their future and dream for more than "three baby daddies and welfare." You really think a significant amount of people think exactly like that? Yowzers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 03:03 AM
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Yeah I know, that internet is just a luxury too. Who really needs it, you can just build yourself a shack in the woods and hunt for frogs, insects and wild yams. When technology changes, society changes, and all our personal narratives do so as well. What is 'vital' and what isn't changes alongside. I'm sorry, but I do not think you are making a very relevant point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 03:00 AM
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It is 2, but it can not be anything else as that as even accepting 1 leads logically to 2. This differs per society or more accurtately culture though, as fairly conservative cultures do say stuff like 'respect your dad/brothers/uncle's/husband's authority.' The difference with what you said, 'respecting men' in general, is that it specifies that only men that are considered family are worthy of any consideration by a woman. There simply is no way in practice to say 'you need to learn to respect…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:21 PM
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Bullshit. You just made that up by projecting yourself on all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 07:07 PM
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except for the ones that let her yeet on the kid and murder it lmao Could you say that in adult English please?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 12:56 AM
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You just reminded me of a racist song about eskimos a guy I know wrote for a stage-play (don't worry, the song exists to let the audience know what a family of unrepentent casual racists they are dealing with). It was (in clumsy translation,) 'I asked you mom awhile ago 'Hey are you fine with this?' It seems to me to be kinda cold being a whore on the north pole.'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 05:07 PM
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Temporaray Shia marraiges is more like it actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 05:01 PM
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Yea, it tries to portray certain bad behaviors as typically male. Thanks for agreeing with me. No I am not, you are completely reversing it and pretending it is the same. There is no culture or civilization that tells its own men to be pointlessly aggressive. I never said that. I dislike it when people who have already shown bad reading comprehension make the same mistake. You completely disprove this logic when you say that toxic femininity isn't a thing. You really are a one track mind are you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:51 PM
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Toxic masculinity isn't masculinity at all, it just describes a set of bad behaviors as if it's male-typical behavior and demonizes men for it. No, I think you are missing the point. It points at a subset of male behaviour as 'toxic.' When women exhibit such behaviour they aren't excused morally, but because these women don't do it due societal pressure to perform in a masculine way, this is just beside the term. Every human society I agree that the grand majority was patriarchical but if I may …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 12:30 AM
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I'm Dutch so I don't share these cultural experiences to this degree, I guess I am not part of your 'we.'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:58 PM
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Drink less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:14 PM
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What about lying to men then? Does this just mean that lying in general is ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:13 PM
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feminists have a nasty habit of abusing the word to fit their own definition then pointing to the dictionary definition when someone disagrees. And so do non-feminists who misunderstand. What is your point? That ignorance by individuals on one side begets hurt feelings in the other side? It goes both ways you know. As for the 'men can't enter the conversation,' I have never experienced this as all when taking classes that had feminist lecturers at points or a feminist class. The sad fact is most…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 11:24 AM
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It shits on the entire point of masculinity in the first place. No it doesn't. I just explained why. It's also very telling since toxic masculinity has no counter example. There is no such thing as "toxic femininity". That's because in a patriarchical society there is no real reason to fetter over toxic femininity. Second, just because you haven't gheard the term 'toxic femininity' used, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Third, you think there is room to discuss toxic femininity if toxic mascu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 11:15 AM
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That's exactly what you are misunderstanding about the term 'toxic masculinity.' You are taking it to mean 'Mascilinity is toxic.' The actual meaning is very different of that: it divides masculinity in neutral/ positive masculinity and 'toxic masculinity.' When someone is talking about 'venomous snakes,' they aren't saying all snakes are venomous, they say that they are now talking about the category of snakes that are venomous. Yes, this does explicitly acknowledge that there are venomous snak…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:13 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 08:01 PM
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I have, seems like you might want to do so next time. Radical feminists locate the root cause of women's oppression in patriarchal gender relations, as opposed to legal systems (as in liberal feminism) or class conflict (as in anarchist feminism, socialist feminism, and Marxist feminism). I.e., Radfems aren't Marxist because they fundamentally disagree with Marxists on where the problem comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 03:00 PM
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No they aren't 'Marxists,' they are Radfems. This whole 'everything on the left is the same' crap is exactly what I was railing against, it is how having only two political parties poisons the American minds for politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 10:26 AM
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You just demonstrated you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 11:49 PM
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Welcome to binary thinking, now grow the fuck out of it please.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 10:59 PM
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I think so too, but to get to that point there is going to have to be some change in public perception. I do not envy the men that, in front of the whole of society (ie. the world in this case, cause you can bet such a movement will be a hot topic world wide), try to get that movement started. They will become a target for all sides pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 10:14 PM
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It would, but they aren't even close to routine yet. Hence the defensiveness in the present.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 04:32 PM
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In the same way that a stereotypical rich person won't know how much a banana costs, a lot of women just don't even start thinking about 'what if the baby isn't mine?' Additionally, the worst of these women will just automatically assume their child is an extension of them, and will see the man's annoyance at her not-his baby as a personal sleight. 'If he loves me he will love this baby.' Third part is that mandatory paternity test by themselves are taken as a sleight, as a lot of women will jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 02:40 PM
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You are missing the whole point of why the term 'toxic masculinity' exists. It doesn't exist as a clearly defined set of traits that are toxic under all circumstances. You are approaching it like it is a biological term, it is not an exact scientific term. It is used in social etc sciences, those terms work differently. Essentially, because masculinity is neutral (in my opinion, hence the CMV), assigning the label "toxic" to any of it does render all of it toxic, because what is or isn't toxic i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 01:32 AM
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In one sentence: It is the difference between saying men generally are more prone to use violence in stressful situations - 1 and men are violent. - 2 or, as is the common mantra (AWALT) in RP with flipped genders all men are violent - 3 or even worse only men are violent - 4 In more sentences: I think you are misunderstanding that BP is fine with 'generalizing' men. It is not about making assumptions or statements regarding gender or sex an sich, it is about making qualified statements and, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 02:27 PM
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Good question! Why do men date assholish women and then complain about assholish womenstart up a thread on TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 09:22 AM
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Let me ask you a similar question: when is someone no longer considered a late bloomer but an incel? Answer: there is no strict definition, but a definition of 'incel' that covers a not insignificant swath of the population is surely not fitting for the label 'incel.' The definition given here in this thread pretty much comes down to 'everyone who isn't a 'chad' is an incel' which is ofcourse ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 02:48 AM
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Let me get this straight: you were an incel because you couldn't get laid in high school? With a definition like that, the number of male 'incels' would multiply by a vast amount. Hell, in that case I should consider myself an 'ex-incel' I suppose. With a ridiculously broad definition like that, half of all nerdy/geeky/somewhat awkward guys 'were incels.' I'm sorry but this is really cheapening the label in such a way that it becomes a meaningless word.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 01:57 AM
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Yeah, engaging in a conversation with a person who has 5-10% of your testosterone level, 80% of your IQ and 40% of your lean body mass is a big risk, I mean what if they are meanies and dont like me :(. Why are you bringing this up? This is not the kind of 'risk' she was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 06:34 PM
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This is a dumb question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 06:31 PM
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So it's not such a clear cut answer that I think they're inferior or not... It is to me. Both my own answer and yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 08:35 AM
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Gotta admit, it is pretty funny seeing you squirm when confronted with his question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 10:02 PM
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strong male friendships You mean 'tribal mentality' as far as I can tell from how you define 'strong male friendships.'
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 08:57 AM
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Lol, you are really trying very hard, how manly of you to try!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:29 PM
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Well, it worked out pretty sweet for me so far, but I am sure you know better. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 12:44 PM
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Betrayers of people you don't even know? You are such a little man that you think this part matters. It really shows how you are a moral desert. Selfish, smallminded and whimsically emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 09:20 AM
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You could've expected this insanity from someone named 'Gas SJW's.' He isn't worth the trouble dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 09:17 AM
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Don't insist, but tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 09:24 AM
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Huh, I don't really get the joke then, because psychosis isn't directly related to emotionality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 03:41 PM
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I just thought it was funny you gave a rather autistic reply to a post that said TRP can be a bit autistic. I think you missed that. To further the autism jokes, I feel you are being emotionally compromised by calling the BP 'psychotic.' Do you even understand what you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 02:32 PM
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TRP seems very autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 01:28 PM
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Sounds like you are taking this all waaaay too personal. Get help please!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 11:26 AM
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I skimmed it. Can't stop my eyes from moving really. Nothing else stood out as particularily intelligent, and there were some more obvious digs in it as well, like every other sentence. As I said, emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 08:39 PM
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I think it might be the other way around, mr. Passive Agressive!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 08:16 PM
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Maybe, but I give up a comment when it starts out with insults and/or accusations. Too emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 01:24 PM
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Yeah, I agree this thread is kinda silly, but what was your point concerning the post you replied to specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 12:24 PM
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Oh come on, you just made this thread becasause you can't handle that people think your weird tangents on 'Meghan Markle' are relevant. This behaviour is kinda pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 11:24 AM
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Missing parameters and data, can't make a judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 11:15 AM
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Well, in that case what is the problem with the bluepill-sub then? Did you intend to nullify the argument? Good job regardless!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 11:12 AM
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Aggressive and adversarial without any actual argument You mean kinda like how you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 11:11 AM
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I've been redpill my entire life. 47 years. Yeah, I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 11:10 AM
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Point being?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 11:06 AM
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This is exactly what is happening one can see it e.g. the mantra "if women were to rule the world there were no wars, no hunger, no unhappy children". In this line of thinking or argumentation it is masculinity (male toxicity that causes suffering). Yeah, and those people are wrong because they misuse the term, that is my point. You don't get to say that the people who you disagree with in the first place do have the correct definition of 'toxic masculinity.' This is exactly why I think it doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 12:43 PM
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Toxic masculinity is often wrongly interpreted, because it isn't saying that masculinity in of itself is toxic, but that there are parts of masculinity that are. Compare it with a term like 'Christian extremism.' This doesn't say that all Christianity is extreme, it is saying that it is adressing the extreme parts of Christianity. In this example case most people see that the argument the term in of itself makes is that there are extreme versions of Christianity out there, which admittedly some …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 10:41 PM
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The man behind the voice of Bert actually has a pretty good voice, here he is as a different character, with a much better voice to listen to. As for female voices, it matter a lot to me actually. Fran's voice actually makes her more attractive (weirdly enough) to me, but that Michelle you linked.. Oh that is just awfull.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:32 PM
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Sorry what? How can you cheat on someone who is already dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:43 PM
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Short answer: yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 08:18 PM
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Did you just admit that you're inept? Yes, inept at making a fool out myself as badly as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:38 PM
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Dude, I gave you the example you demanded. Myself. You are choosing to stick your head in the sand on that part. You haven't actually done anything. You don't know me. You are even more adapt than I am at making baseless claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 07:17 PM
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Sources for something not happening? Yes. You surely think that I made the claim of it happening, therefore I have to provide the evidence, but you are the one making a ludicrous claim, it really is you who has to provide the evidence. You position is akin to saying how 'farmers don't work the land anymore' which is a ridiculous claim since working the land is precisely what a farmer does. I don't have to provide evidence of farmers toiling the soil. If they weren't, they wouldn't be farmers in …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 03:15 PM
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Where are your sources then? I find it a bit weird to attack me on that point since you also completely fail at the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 02:47 PM
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Just not publicly. Or with any policies. Or at all. False x3. I feel like you are applying the label 'feminist' only to those who don't do it, third wave radicals, but there is much more to feminism than teenagers on the internet finding out about the power of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 02:08 PM
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I usually don't do this, but since my enduring point is that it is paramount that people read actual articles by academics and not just tweets by propagandists I don't feel like I can just blurt out: 'this is feminism in less than 140 characters' without being a hypocrite. I do have this rather short article. What I can do, because it is easier, is criticize why your definition is rather brusque. First off, though I can agree to a certain level that 'women are oppressed' is a central tenet of fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 10:42 PM
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One doesn't need a whole book to convey the general message - men are privileged, women are oppressed, smash the patriarchy. And that is exactly why I would say that arguing feminism should not be done without any knowledge of what feminism is. Moreover, the worst of the SJW's are just as ignorant of feminism as the quoted statement is, and a lof of the hate feminism gets is precisely because these morons are misrepresenting it. Kind of how cretins who don't understand Nietzsche corrupted his wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 09:51 PM
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I was trying to word it more carefully in my own comment to not be a jackass to the person who brought it up, but I fully agree with you! When I said 'it is narrative driven' I pretty much meant that it is a nice frame for talking about who you are as a person, but honestly, so is astrology, haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:30 PM
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No, I just wasn't thinking properly and thought the xx's meant something instead of as a replacement, and I just couldn't think of any one personality test with xx's.. Just a brainfart!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:27 PM
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I know Myers-Briggs, but thanks for the info! I was just confused by the xx's.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:33 PM
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Ah, Myers-Briggs. I was confused by the xx's, didn't know what you meant with them. Psychology classes. We kinda skipped over Myers-Briggs though, they aren't the most reliable of personality tests, they are more of a marketing gimmick then say, the Big Five (OCEAN). Myers-Briggs is more narrative driven, which is ok for how they are most commonly used.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:32 PM
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the vast hump of women are xSFx I'm sorry, what? I don't think that ever came up in my classes, what is it connected to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:22 PM
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Extremely small chance, I wonder why you even bring it up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 10:38 AM
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Well, not abusive alcoholics I beg to differ. Women can be every bit as abusive as men can, and are more likely to abuse mentally and socially, which is both more diffuse and more damaging on the long term than just physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 10:37 AM
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when I think you mean 'if.'
/r/seduction11/09/16 11:49 AM
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There are two people I know of in this story: a boy and a girl. The girl was raped, and the boy is the rapist. This makes the girl the victim, and the boy the criminal, if this is all correct, yes? Then who is the snitch? Look, I see that you think you serve the conversartion best by being pedantic over my supposed lack of knowledge. I see how that can be annoying, but reall, I had a very simple question: Who is the snitch? The girl who was raped? A victim can not, by definition, be a 'snitch.' …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 01:38 AM
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but I just can't help but think in the back of my mind that she's a snitch. Who is a snitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 01:04 PM
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she's Who is the 'she' you are talking about? I know nothing of this case and you only mentioned the victim as female, so I am confused, as aI suspect that the 'she' is an as of yet unknown third individual?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 12:32 AM
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I think that was the point, but that is just my reading of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 12:23 AM
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It's exactly like adultery, you're putting the interests of an outside stranger above those of the ingroup (your wife/husband). I think your comparison is very flawed and lacks an appreciation for the finer points of what is adultery compared to the scenarion you paint. A straightforward 'putting the interests of a stranger over the interests of a person close to you' is extremely shallow. For one thing, you do not owe a stranger badgering you for sex anything at all. Via social contract theory …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 12:22 AM
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I think the main problem with this example is the fact that I feel the crime in of itself and the victim are way more important factors to me than if the criminal was a family member or not. Did the victim provoke the attack in some way, or was the victim a complete bully to the criminal? How violent was the attack, and how intentional was the damage? Those are more interesting questions to me than 'how closely related is the criminal to me?' Maybe that is my answer, really: I don't really care …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 12:09 AM
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Dude, seriously, I was only trying to get the discussion back on track instead of letting it devolve into a yes-no tantrum. I actually wanted to know the answer to my question so that we could discuss his actual opinion instead of strawmen. I don't really give a shit that you think that it was a 'loaded question' in a thread on a sub were people with schocking regularity use extremely hyperbolic and divisive language. But yeah sure, my crime was posing a question in a seemingly aggressive way. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 03:20 PM
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Dude, two people were arguing about opinions and strawmen, all I did was ask them to, instead of moaning about strawmen, to describe the opinion they were ´being strawmanned on´ to avoid confusion and nip the annoying meta-discussion in the bud. ´Loaded question´, fuck that man. You are way too aggressive/paranoid if you perceive my question, the first attempt to actually listen to the person's own perspective, as an attack in of itself. That is completely ridiculous, and makes me think you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 12:25 PM
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Nice deflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:04 PM
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but I strongly object to the idea that a government should be able to mandate genetic testing of its citizens. Fair point. I'm more interested in breaking the social stigma around paternity tests anyway. Change social laws instead of 'civil laws,' as you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:03 PM
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bluepillers now try Please, don't generalize, I know there is a lot of bad blood between the camps but I'm seeing lots of agreement in this thread, no need to inflame emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:19 PM
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making them mandatory. I've argued multiple times that this would be in the interest of everyone involved, unless this person was up to something shady. We have the technology, it is easy and practically harmless and cheap as well: why not make it mandatory? Don't children deserve to know without a doubt who their father is, and don't men deserve to know if their kids are theirs? But everytime I've argued this there are girls who become enraged over the fact that it is 'only intended as a breach…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:15 PM
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Please explain then what you think the uses for women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 04:59 PM
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Ofcourse they do, duh. I don't think gay men do all that with women but maybe I'm wrong. ...have you ever actually met a gay person?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 06:22 PM
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Translation: Feels > Reels
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 01:42 AM
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I'm certainly not the only one. That's why I assume that that it is at least a sizeable majority, based on interactions with them. Might be even a majority, I can't tell for sure. Why do you feel that you can make the assumption about majorities in Bluepill? Don't you see that might be a little bit biased from your position, and aren't arguing hard facts, just feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 12:02 AM
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Then why are you making such a fundamental mistake as to assume that TRP is a "set of steps guaranteed to get you what you want."? Please point to where I made that assumption. TRP is a "set of steps guaranteed to get you what you want."? It isn't. As I said, that mindset is common to newbies that wander in to AskTRP. I am sure it is, when I was that wandering and a stupid teenager, years ago I might've identified with that mindset. Not for long though. You are just making assumptions again, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 11:58 PM
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To be fair, it was only a sizeable minority, can't fault all of them for it. Maybe the guys saying that men aren't more honorable are also the guys in the rape-community. If we had a more detailed breakdown of the questions on a per person basis we might be able to say more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 11:27 PM
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You haven't read a whole lot of red pill stuff Another baseless asumption. I've read all the 'mandatory reading' years ago, I just think it is mostly bull. You don't seem to understand that a lot of 'Bluepillers' got into this whole debate in the first place because they were in pretty similar situations to a lot of 'Redpillers'.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 11:21 PM
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Haha oh boy, this is such a weird assumption to make. I'm an unsuccesfull hetero 'Bluepiller' mostly. I'm certainly not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 11:17 PM
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Red Pill realism vs. Blue Pill idealism Were not off to a good start. To Bluepillers, Blue Pill is realism, not idealism. I think reality can be transformed into however you want it to transform it into if you take extreme enough actions. I think I compeltely agree with you on these. There have been people who agreed with you and decided to take matters in their own hands and be the change they wanted to see, not wanting to compromise with the ordinariy people who lack vision. Who needs stifling…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 06:35 PM
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Why is the red pill obsessed with cukoldry? Why are Catholic priests obsessed with homosexuality?
/r/ExRedPill22/02/16 01:51 AM
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I think the label 'influential' is more descriptive of what you describe. Everything with 'dom-' in it certainly has an almost physical aspect to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 04:14 AM
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Since her husband is applying TRPs ideologies in their relationship (or trying to at least), its fairly reasonable for people in TRP to ask why her husband is doing so. As an aside to the main point, the main point of the whole discussion being, in short: 'TRP talking to men doesn't influence women in their behaviour' (you know, the question that started of the whole debate). And no, I don't think it is reasonable to make the question of why her husband is a TRPer the sole focus of her post. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 12:19 PM
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I want to thank all the red's for focussing on the more or less irrelevant part of her comment and thereby making an ass out of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 10:08 PM
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Old Spice has more of a punch when you drink it though. Helps to deal with our nonexistent emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:18 PM
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Are you sure about that? Have you read all of them? Doesn't prove shit though. People just like stories that enforce their worldviews, so the magazines deliver.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:16 PM
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You aren't contributing to the discussion. You are barely talking. Make an actual point that can be debated, refute what someone else wrote, or get the hell out. Edit: After checking this posters history, it seems like it is either a bot or a dedicated troll. MODS!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 07:38 PM
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Or, alternatively, men discussing women leads to the same old and wrong conclusions, much like how some people still regurgitate racist or homophobic 'conclusions' from the advent of popular pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 07:27 PM
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Yes, but it is still the same discussion with the same conclusions and reasoning. Same difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:16 PM
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Wide scale discussion No it is not. It has literally been going since pretty much the beginning of civilization. Only difference is that it is now global and easier to access. Doesn't mean that it is novel. Even the theories aren't new, they are just rehashed with new spiffy lingo, but in essence it is almost exactly the same as in Freudian times.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:09 PM
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It's new to the men of my generation I suppose I don't even have to add to this to make a counter-point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 02:23 PM
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And because people in general have a much stronger rejection of the extreme misogyny than the extreme misandry, The thing about extreme misandry is that it is novel, and because there is no society as of yet where it is the norm now or historically it is more difficult to associate it with atrocities. If there ever was such as society, it would commit atrocities uncountable, but as this isn't the case as of yet it skews the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 10:58 PM
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full support of the left-political media. I think you are buying too much into the panic and the perceived dichotomy. Most rightwingers aren't horrible bigots and these extreme bigots aren't supported by the 'right-political media'. Neither is the opposite. The only thing about these extremist feminists theories that makes them more visible is the fact that they are novel, which makes it interesting: when people read a piece on 'niggers' they just roll their eyes, and start reading something els…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 10:54 PM
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We all know how well you curate your post history so you can make these claims 5thlaw Too busy curating her post history to respond.
/r/MensRights12/10/15 05:00 PM
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I don't mean any particular white man, but white men in general. The mistake you are making is that for some reason these 'experiences' of 'white men' are in a way shared experiences. That is just patently wrong. Yes, white men are overrepresented in leadership positions, but these men are a very small minority of all white men in the world. Most 'white men' in the world are just average office schmucks with a nagging wife and a second mortgage (not literally, just trying to paint a picture of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 11:37 PM
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I don't objectively know what my physical SMV is to most women This sentence doesn't make sense. 'SMV' is rather subjective. problem is therapists these days are gynocentric, they don't know shit about the current SMP In my experience therapists these days are a bit too familiar with Senior Marketing Professionals. Joking aside, stop blaming your therapist for not being able to 'cure' you. If you really don't like your therapist or think (s)he can help you, get a different one. Having a 'click' …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 02:55 PM
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You can't completely. But you are probably more off the mark if you just go by your own presumptions from the start. It means you aren't playing the game, which is the whole point of the bloody game.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 02:32 AM
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If you already think you 'know' their hand, you don't give them the chance to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 01:09 AM
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Can we expect women to do the same? No you can't. But neither can you trust 'men' to do so. You can't deduce a whole persons personality just from their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:39 AM
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Misandry ain't a thang If misogyny is a thing, per definition misandry is a thing as well. Granted, it is way less common and visible, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The prejudice + power argument is absolute bollocks, if that is your reasoning for denying the possibility of misandry. As for Trump, calling out a woman for having her period is sexist, I agree with you on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 08:43 PM
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You might want to give some specific examples I think. Might be a bit hard to have a tangible discussion before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 05:39 PM
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Birds of a feather like to flock together.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:32 AM
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