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so what do women actually want in a partner? and seperately what do they find sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:38 PM
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If it fits best why is the ideal size given by women inches larger than it in both dimensions? While an average sized one can get the job done... that doesnt mean there is not a preference for slightly larger than average. If eating good food isnt as good as sex, you are not cooking the right kinda food.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:31 PM
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and the average preferences for size is above the average actual size... theres no shame in admitting that. Both in length and girth. Its not saying "bigger is always better" but that "above average is better". The same way most people would prefer a 12inch pizza over an 8inch because it will fill them up and leave them more satisfied... even if they would be fine with just an 8inch pizza. At the same time they wouldnt want a 20inch pizza because thats waaaay too much for the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:47 PM
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Then the argument becomes why have sizes at all? Why not only make 10" ones and just tell people to "just insert less"? Saves on needing multiple moulds, would be an awful lot cheaper to manufacture. If you say that's not true because of material cost then it makes sense to make the smallest size possible... It would be cheaper for them and cheaper for you to buy, so why do they not make smaller ones? I also highly doubt your first claim given the smallest sizes are usually 5" insertable and ref…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:18 PM
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I'm aware, still there are generally very few for smaller sizes regardless of how you shake it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:48 AM
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When most "small" toys are the same sort of length as the average guy... sorta answers your question in terms of dildos. but consider most women use vibrators, because its an entirely different type of stimulation that's usually more intense and easier to reach. If you actually talk to women you will find that for most, who the penis is attached to matters a lot more than the penis itself. Taking away the person can require compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:50 AM
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For the off topic point, a woman talks with someone in the top 20%. The attention from someone who they consider high value makes them feel higher value themselves... but that guy is never going to settle with her. Even if she has convinced herself he will settle with her because she's different and special, otherwise he wouldnt be giving her this kind of attention and picked her over all these other women... he won't. No one sane thinks women are actively choosing to be passed around by the top…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:42 AM
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what are you even looking for from a post like this that you dont already know the genetal concensus for? You already got answers to all the questions even if the post was deleted
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:46 PM
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Why is this being reposted again? You already got all the answers, im sorry if they were not what you were looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:38 PM
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good lord i hope you reflect on this one day and realise how much of a jackass you look like... you just lie to them about your world views... to get a hookup or partner? damn, you are the reason why women dont like to date men anymore, good to finally meet you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:44 PM
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So why would any women want to be with someone like you when you seem to not like anything about them other than what, looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:22 PM
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so why cant you have women friends too? Like for what reason is it just incompatible for you? Like I will admit i'm bisexual, but i'm not attracted to every single person i meet, i have friends of both genders... i cant see why having a friend of the opposite gender is impossible for you, why do you see every women as a means to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:05 PM
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Im starting to think you people are trying to actively miss the point. That advice is given to people who have ZERO friends who are women. The advice is given so men don't just see women as objects for their desire but as people who want to talk and chat too. Its given so people will actually try to get to know women before immediately trying to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:03 PM
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Do you want to fuck all your guy friends too? Theres nothing wrong with just being friends because you want to be friends... what is wrong with you people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:31 PM
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There is a reason its not still "in fashion" to have a whale tail Definitely a crime against fashion at the very least and i don't think a majority of women will find it attractive if that's what you are getting at with this post. Id like to know what on gods green earth it has to do with purple pill
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:44 PM
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Women prefer someone they know is a decent person, its the entire point of a "warm" approach. It is someone they know by name, have talked to before, and have spent time with in a social or group setting... thats what they are looking for. There is a middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:31 PM
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If thats the only reason you are getting into friendships with women then yes, you should stop that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:26 PM
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ding ding ding, this exactly. Its fucking weird just to be friends with someone with the soul intent of getting laid. If that is your motive from the get go then you should be making that clear from the get go. If it develops over time its a little different but you should still make that clear when it does, because you are not seeing the relationship as just a friendship any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:25 PM
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If there's 10 women, are you attracted to 8 of them Chances are, I could be. So would be quite happy to get to know them better and allow that initial curiosity/attraction to develop further. I'd like to think 8/10 women are not ugly to the point they cannot be seen as attractive. I'd like to think that 8/10 women have interesting personalities, hobbies and aren't toxic to allow that initial attraction to develop beyond looks. So why are 80% of men ruled out from the get go, i know there are a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:58 AM
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the question is how do you make the first happen? Im sure a lot of men just swipe right on everyone because to them its a numbers game, why should they pass up an opportunity that is rare in the first place? Which then feeds back around, more women get more likes, women raise their standards, its harder to be picky as a man, so more swipe right in hopes of finding anyone. How do we get everyone to break out of the cycle?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:16 PM
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Alright you suck as a person and/or are ugly, we get it, stop whining like babies about it. If life is unfair then its unfair. Stop blaming everyone else for it. Either work with what you got and be very aware you are limited, try to improve yourself as a person how you can, or stop whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:38 AM
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You can but you should seek out therapy if you actually want to fix your issues. The feelings wont go away and if anything will continue to get worse unless the roots of your insecurities are addressed. Speaking from experience, it will get worse if you isolate yourself from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:03 PM
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lots of envy if i had to guess, combined with some self esteem issues for added spice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:54 PM
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You do this and women will ask you if youre gay and if we've learnt anything from the whole bisexual men discourse, that's not appealing to a majority of women. The reason a lot of men act the way they do, because that is what is the most appealing to the majority of single women, regardless of what everyones individual preferences are, thats the way it leans on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:22 PM
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Yeah im done, i cba to copy paste on mobile, its a pain in the ass. Go reread your comments, especially the ones you made on this post if you actually want to see. I dont even know why im asking you to because you will just try to rebuttal it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:28 PM
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Im not trying to insult you, stop acting like i am trying to. Scroll up and you will see. You do it for most of your comments but it will take some introspection for you to see you are doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:24 PM
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No??? Ask most women and they will give you an example of a time a man would put a hand around their neck start choking them during sex without asking... it's a very common thing in porn and thats why so many men think its normal and thats what women want. That is what i mean by mens perspectives on what to do during sex are being warped by porn That is what im trying to say, the whole consent and talking part is just missing, theres basically no communication in porn because its all scripted an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:20 PM
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I never said anything bad about roughness? For me its the way it goes from complete stranger to fucking in 2.1 seconds... and it warps peoples perspectives on how to approach strangers and their expectations on how quickly they expect sex for doing basically nothing. I agree with you second paragraph. I do think however it would be beneficial if porn was more healthy and "realistic" (which includes BDSM etc.) rather than what a lot of the industry is where it is pure spectacle that warps peoples…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:15 PM
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I think an issue is how it affects especially younger men who are still developing. It can give really bad perceptions on what sex is supposed to be like and how you are supposed to do things. A lot of that comes from failings of sexual education and the very very easy access to porn at a young age that can warp peoples perspectives on how to approach women, how to flirt and build up... like i theres a lot of porn where a guy goes up to a "random" attractive women with like $500 and "convinces" …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:42 AM
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A lot here arent because places like this attract people who are insecure and are looking for someone else to blame... but in real like most are genuinely good They dont choose to believe it, but its a lot easier to remember experiences that give you extreme negative feelings than those where you feel neautral. So ofcourse they are going to be biased that the negative thing happens more often than it does and that that is what all women must be like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:22 AM
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im not attacking your character, the problem is you always assume im attacking you when im not. You keep on throwing out really extreme versions of what people are saying in your counterpoints. Im going to give you an obvious example and analogy so hopefully you can see what i mean. I can say "most guys dont like blueberries" and you will go on to say "WOW MEN MUST HATE ALL FRUIT" and counter this made up point that "men must hate all fruit saying that men dont get to complain when women hate al…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:20 AM
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Sometimes i feel like you are projecting your own insecurities with these posts and responses. I hope you feel more comfortable in your skin and can find someone that loves you for you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:12 AM
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where are you pulling that from? your biased opinion or a source? Genuinely good ken dont care about those women, thats the problem you are having here, you are assuming all men are into those women... theyre not. Thats what they observe around them with a lense of confirmation bias, but no one said thats what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:09 AM
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... by talking to them? By being flirty? You dont need to act super horny and obsessed, but if thats what you want to do no one is going to stop you. If anything acting super horny and obsessed will push a guy away from seeking an LTR. Also why do you think the only way for women to get a mans attention is by being "super horny and obsessed"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:13 AM
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The guy said "any signs to work with"... how did you get from that to wanting women to be "super horny and obsessed".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:53 AM
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For some it is, but that is the perspective. When i stopped dating for a while it was something i noticed though, all the women that were genuinely high value in personality with average to above average looks... rarely stay single for long, because they are good partners. I did read it, the question was kind of rhetorical, you clearly dont believe it... so why do you believe it with the genders reversed?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:39 AM
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read the last sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:14 AM
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The reality is differently to what you are presenting its a fiction... but ill go along with it and try to give you the "guys" perspective here. The perspective is that all the sweet meeks are taken, or already know who they want to be with. They arent looking for people and if they are they are so quickly snatched up by the first person they run into (that is likely one of her backups), that i as the guy will never get the chance to he with them. I will never get the chance to show off my perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:44 PM
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Is your entire belief here made upon that one video? You think every guy is like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:33 PM
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what about it makes it inauthentic?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:02 PM
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i feel it would be easier to work backwards with what you dont like or what set of traits completely rule someone out and what ones you are more flexible on. Even if its a set of traits, working together, what is apart of that set, what is your checklist so to speak for someone to be more likely to vibe with you vs not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:57 PM
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nerdy as in, hot guy with glasses
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:55 PM
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This is one of them things that feels like it should be common sense but apparently isn't. So its good to say regardless. Very good summary of things to look out for though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:07 AM
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The answer to that question is... a lot more mixed than i think you realise. A lot of guys would want and are with crazy and toxic women. They find that kind spice attractive and normal women to be dull, it goes both ways. I understand that a lot of women want confident men, but what they consider confident also goes against the "rules" the same kind of women set. So it insanely difficult to know ahead of time what you should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:01 AM
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If you don't like someone only because of the fact that they are bisexual and nothing else then by definition that is bigoted. So many women do it that bi men would rather save the stress and just lie because it makes ZERO difference to the relationship for the woman. Literally none, it makes no difference if ive been with a man before because im not with one now. So why not lie, why restrict yourself to 20% of the dating pool you had before?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:21 PM
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If its not a game and people are mature, they wouldn't impose such bigoted rules on themselves about dating bi men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:42 PM
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I personally do not. I find both body count and judging people for being bi stupid. I do not understand why body count or someone being bi matters so much to people. People make such bold and vile assumptions about people based on these stereotypes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:44 PM
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You assume im American, silly goose. You assume a lot, my points arent to make people shut up, nor am i liberal. You are not clever or smart, you are the exact same person you are trying to mock but with a different flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:35 PM
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So would you stop dating all straight guys because they may fantasise about other women that are physically nothing like you in ways you cant provide, or is it only a problem when its a man? Not every fantasy needs to become reality nor does it in actual relationships. You dont want gay sex in your bedroom... but where is the gay sex? They are your partner with you, a women, that is as straight as it gets, man and a women. They arent going to be thinking about men while with you. If you are goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:12 PM
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Yes, most bi men have adjusted by just not bringing it up or by lying. If people want to play silly games then they cant complain that thats how it is played.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:00 PM
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It is so funny how little difference it will make to a relationship that bi men can say they are straight and you wont notice a difference. Simply saying "yeah im bi" suddenly killing off 80% of your possible partners even though it would make literally ZERO difference to them will fuck with your self esteem, why wouldnt it mess with how you think about yourself. If the number of potential partners you could be with got cut by that much because you said "i like eating pizza" you would quickly st…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:46 PM
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i mean... you dont need to get married if thats what you want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:31 PM
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because why does it matter? If they said they were straight you wouldnt have cared, so why does it matter if theyre bi other than for reasons that are blatantly homophobic. Genuinely explain why it matters that. It's not like theyre gay and not into women at all. If you would be with them if they were straight but not if they are bi, then its straight up biphobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:25 PM
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and why do you not want that. Why does it matter to you? Genuinely take some time to think about it, dont just brush it off as a preference, think about why you care so much that a guy who is into you and only you, has previously been into men too. Deep down its biphobia, like it or not that is what it is. What you are saying is like saying "im not racist i have lots of black friends"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:21 PM
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Im not jealous of bad boys, im annoyed at the fact it works so well, annoyed at the fact i feel lied to. You can do everything that women say they want and get literally no where with no real interest. So you decide fuck it i will try something else, i will try what is clearly working for the people around me... only to find out that it works so well it is like that is what women wanted the entire time. It is disheartening to feel like ive been lied to, that i have spent my entire life trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:14 AM
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how did you go from A to B here... You can have friends who are women and it not help you with dating... even if you werent friends with the women to get help with dating...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:19 PM
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So you would fuck anything? You have no standards? You never grew out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:01 PM
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the same could be said about young men, just chasing validation and hookups because thats what means you're atteactive and cool, with most growing out of it eventually (even if that takes 10 more years).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:40 PM
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You can say its changing, but my experiences are recent and numerous. It is still a large number of women. Maybe in 10 years it will be different, but here and now it is true. I personally hope it does change, but based on everything i read online i didnt think it would exist as much as it does in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:56 PM
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There is a larger tolerance for disrespect and overstepping lines at least in my experience, as long as its not too far overboard obviously. Also the amount of women I've seen let themselves just get used as toys is higher than i personally feel comfortable with. It feels so wild and backwards to see after all the advice about respect and not treating women like objects for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:54 PM
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I agree, but i found amusingly the opposite to be true if you are looking for hookups. I'd rather not know why doing that worked so much better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:36 PM
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My experience with this has been indifferent, so i disagree with your suggestion that it makes it significantly easier. I think it will help give you a good perspective on what some women want... but you can also fall into the trap where other women will assume you are the "gay" friend even if you are not. The issue i personally find is that the women i am friends with are not the same kind of people as the ones i would like to date, so their advice on how to to look only applies really to what …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:33 PM
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IRL dating is going well (especially dating events)... its just the case that OLD is easier and more convenient. You dont need to dress up and get ready for every event you can just sit in bed in your PJs and swipe through 50 people, you get the luxury of letting a message settle and rewritting your responses before you send it, you can put your best pictures up and spend as long as you want thinking of a fun bio. I will agree however that people have to want to socialise, which they dont. Most …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:16 AM
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if its that little that they won't notice... then they wont notice in the first place. Like no one cares if youre 5'9 or 5'10, it is pointless. Just get your eyebrows done, take care of your skin, get in shape and you are good to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:02 AM
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there are certain traits where id prefer they were similar and others where im indifferent. For example if i prefer to keep things tidy i dont really want to be with someone who keeps making a mess and completely draining me... but i also know how to cook well, and i dont mind if my partner doesnt know how to cook to the same level or better. It really changes trait to trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:35 PM
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My opinion is that its more of a sliding scale than just black or white. With that said i think everyone is born with a baseline and a range. Lots of guys could improve themselves, there are lots of 5/10s that could be 7/10 if they put in the effort, but they will never be 10/10 no matter what they do. Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:34 AM
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This is something i wish all women could experience for a month, but theres always excuses as to why they can't try it. I can say from experience as a more feminine presenting bi guy, the side where you have all the attention (both good and bad) and can be picky is 1000x better than just... nothing... for weeks, only to get matched with someone who puts no effort into the conversation and makes you play court jester because theyre bored. One side will make you go "ugh men" occasionally, the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:13 AM
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Some lesbian women struggle a lot with women too. Some are just as picky while others have an experience closer to what men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:08 AM
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I never said i did, but thats not the numbers they were showing for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:34 PM
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so everyone has a different definition for everything, why bother at all with this argument here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:22 PM
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fair enough then, you have convinced me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:20 PM
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It didnt, but that's the foundation of it. The fact that you can work your way up if you put in the time and effort to change yourself and stop being a lazy bum blaming the world for all your problems. So why would anyone want to be bluepill?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:16 PM
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It is built around the core idea that if you want to date a women that is hugh value, you should also work to be high value physically, financially, interpersonally, and socially... i literally said this a few comments ago and you dismissed it. What does blue pill offer thats not just anti-redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:13 PM
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im not subscribed to it, its the reason i dont have a redpill tag. I never said people arent capable of going to the gym without it. Im just of the belief that there should be a perspective that you men especially should better themselves and work towards being fitter more well rounded people. Its why i dont really gel well with bluepill either which seems to just be anti-redpill on everything and anything rather than a more positive response focusing on actually being a place to help men improv…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:08 PM
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right but victims from who. What do your numbers say in regards to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:04 PM
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There are a lot of bad people out there, no one believes that all men are evil and all women are saints unless they are delusional. On average, women are more vulnerable to men due to physical characteristics. That isn't saying men cant be hurt by women, just that on average it happens to women from men a lot more than the other way around. I know i as a smaller person am more cautious of someone who is much larger and could do more physical harm to me than someone of a similar size. That is gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:55 PM
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A) not really, its from the matrix and was used by lots of groups. The core is seeing what society really is, and in the dating context its realising the 10/10 women is only going to want to date you if you are a 10/10 man through a number of different avenues. Its that simple. B) You dont have to agree with everything someone says just because they say they fall under the same banner. Im sure you dont agree with everything everyone with the bluepill tag says here, i know i dont agree with every…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:44 PM
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PUA is not what redpill is fundamentally about, they use it maliciously, usually to make money off idiots, but that does not mean at its core redpill is bad or useless. I think promoting men to be better is a good thing. I think its better than just saying "you will eventually find your person" to people who on the most basic level should improve and lack basic social skills and fitness. I dont agree with the extreme stuff or the grifters but they can only use redpill because at a basic level it…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:57 PM
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I mean i can handle it, if thats what most women wanted (being forward and direct about desires) , that is what inwould do... but the reality is most don't want it to be so rushed, so its been socially accepted to take it slower and flirt to show your attraction and desire of them, instead of just friendliness. I did come into your post, i just gave you a summary of what i thought it was and asked you to clarify what your points are to ensure we are both on the same page here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:51 PM
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Right but you said they were redpill, the whole core of redpill is improving your value to be with higher value partners. Its about more than just going to the gym. Redpill is about improving to match what you want, bluepill is about settling for what you are, and that you can still end up with someone mich higher value than you anyway. Am i wrong in saying that? They stopped following redpill because they improved physically, financially, interpersonally, and/or socially and got a gf, they didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:46 PM
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your entire post is about being forward and open about your desires i think. It's honestly hard to tell what your post is really about, recently they have been devolving into incoherent rambles. Summarize your point in say 3 sentences, like directly the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:34 PM
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You didnt read. I made an analogy using the gym as an example of moderate and extreme views, how it can be good and useful in moderation. To which you said "yeah going to the gym will help, thats not redpill advice". So you didnt read that properly or just straight up didnt understand it. When i said "complete it" i meant in terms of completing redpill, the context is obvious if you read the whole thing. So why on gods green earth you thought i meant completing a relationship and arguing against…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:25 PM
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I never said honesty is weird, i just said there needs to be a balance with how forward you are about your honesty. You are intentionally being obtuse to the point i am making then going off about something completely different. Do you go up to every ugly person you meet and tell them that they are ugly? It would be hoenst to tell them what you truly think... but you don't do you, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:07 PM
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So if you go to the bar looking for a hookup the first thing you will say to a very attractive stranger that comes up to you is "please fuck my brains out and let me have your babies"? A bit odd but if that works for you sure. In my opinion there is a middle ground which is flirting... its the entire point of flirting. I think sexual compatibility is important for a long term relationship, go look at the deadbedroom subreddits if you don't think it matters. I'd personally be happy to wait and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:52 PM
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im not even going to bother, you just cant read so what is the point of trying to debate with you. if you cant even read what im saying before responding then you are not arguing in good faith, you are just pushing against what you think im saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:43 PM
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Try reading the comment before replying perhaps??? I dont think they abandon it, moreso have completed it. They can sustain what they are doing without needing to interact with the community because they have taken all the advice they needed and implemented it to clearly great success. It is as simple as setting people on the right path.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:28 PM
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The fact they got girlfriends would indicate to some degree that it works well if you dont buy into the bullshit parts of it. The ones that were sane on not looking for excuses improved themselves and got partners, the ones who were just looking for someone to blame without improving themseleves were left behind and have hijacked the movement. Its like going to the gym, if you're going to improve your health and strength its great and you will get a lot out of it... but if you are just looking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:10 PM
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Theres two sides to the coin, either you wait until you find someone that is interested in you for being you... or work on improving and changing yourself to become interesting to and desired by the people you are interested in. What path you want to go down is up to you, but the sad reality of the situation is that it's not changing anytime soon. The first guy isnt entitled to any of it either but still gets it, why is that? Ask yourself what is the difference between the two men you talk about…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:17 AM
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one women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:53 AM
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Is it though? because 9/10 times it will be the man initiating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:17 AM
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maybe that should be brought back
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:13 AM
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Right but most times its not like that. If the guy didnt care about the dates and was just using them to get sex without actually caring about the womens feelings then yes, they were using the women for sex by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:12 AM
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Right but in this case there was a relation prior, trust was built but it turned out to all be a manipulative long con. The same applies to men who convince the women they will be in a long term relationship then dip as soon as they get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:05 AM
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Heres an exmaple If i said, here if million bucks, you can have it if you move my special rock from one side of the country to the other for me... all agreed, you've seen the million bucks, everyones happy with the arrangement, youve moved a bunch of rocks little distances for the guy before so you trust them. So you spend all your time and energy move that rock all the way across the country to make this guy happy by doing what they want. Then at the end, they take the special rock off your han…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:58 AM
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The balance is usually a few weeks/months and making your intentions clear from the get go. Not saying "yeah i only want to be friends and not date"... then in a year have feeling and start trying to date. The second is setting a boundary then crossing it, which is the part that makes people feel lied to, used and betrayed. The whole friends first thing is to see if you are actually fun and enjoyable to be around and talk to when you're not blinded madly by love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:43 AM
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not really, the systems will adjust to account for it and it will be the same old same old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:36 AM
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This reminds me of Mrs. Watanabe, where lots of japanese housewives and SAHMs on the early 2000s were investing heavily into the stockmarket in their free time to increase their households wealth. They did so because they were the ones who controlled the households finances in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:33 AM
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Right, but im going against every ounce of common advice given to men. I'm being manipulative and pushy, even if they initially resist i try again and they give in. It just feels wrong to treat someone like a toy. I'd rather get to know them properly and build up from there, for me genuine attraction is more than just looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:01 PM
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yes, i already said so? In the same way i could just go scam a bunch of vulnerable people and make 10x my current salary... i don't, because it would feel shitty to do, i would feel shame and guilt. With that said some people dont have that kind of shame or guilt, so they do it without a care and will keep doing it for as long as they can. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:55 PM
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I stopped asking and being nice. I stopped caring, i started to just tell them, this is what we are doing. I stopped caring what they wanted and was just indulgently selfish like i see other guys I would just put an arm around their waist and pull them close instead of asking if they were comfortable with me doing it. I stopped caring if they care and just started doing. Instead of saying would you like to get a drink, i would tell them we are getting a drink together and to come with me, pullin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:42 PM
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Speaking from experience, i did try it and i found significantly more success being an asshole who just wouldn't care much about them. I stopped doing it because it felt shitty to do even if it did work. I would rather be kind respectful and take my time to get to know them instead of trying to make out within an hour of meeting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:19 PM
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such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:16 PM
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it literally changes women to women. What is your basis for "often", any data or just personal experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:12 PM
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you are speaking for yourself, you might be self critical and respectful but that doesn't mean the guys people here are talking about are. While if you dont put the effort in clearly you arent entitled to anything... you arent entitled to having a women just because you work out regularly and look good either. Unfortunately lots of guys like that do feel entitled because they put in a bit of effort and go to the gym a few days a week. I have a fair few friends who are women, if you saw the types…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:46 PM
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I think the why is critically important for a lot of thing. If you make a lot of money and want to date someone with a lot of money, and would rather not date someone with much less money because the power imbalance is awkward... it doesnt mean they directly view someone not having money is bad, they just dont feel confortable with the power imbalance it brings. On the other hand Bisexuality is a big one for me, a lot of women can't explain why they'd date a straight man but not a bisexual one w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:45 PM
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I think the core beliefs of RP are pretty solid and hold true. The "if you want higher value/attractive partner, you need to improve yourself and be high value/attractive too" part. With that said there are obviously a lot of grifters who take this pinch of truth that makes sense and manipulate it for their own financial gain. There is an extreme that is too far which you have pointed out but there is thay extreme with most beliefs. Im going to use religion as an example of this, look at christi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:29 PM
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Many men aren't in it for sex too. If you'reonly swiping on hot guys with no bio and shocked to find they only care about sex then I can't help you. I have experienced it, i am giving my personal experience here. I also find it incredibly insulting for you to say i dont care about crippling loneliness, for literally no reason, when it is something that deeply affected my life for a long stretch of time. I could say the exact same thing about women, all the women i try to talk to couldnt care les…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:49 PM
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Its not that bad compared to feeling the crippling loneliness setting in. It is a great motivator though to be active and try. I never bad any issues with being unmotivated, i enjoyed a lot of the conversations even if they were not going to lead to anything long term, not every conversation is sexual. oh this guy is being way to horny and needy oh well next guy will probably be better. Its a lot nicer being able to pick and choose over... nothing, its that simple. Women can be unmotivated by th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:13 PM
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I'm very aware yes. Gay men are just as needy and horny if not more. What point are you trying to make? That men only want sex so its harder to filter through for people that want an LTR? Not really. Its still the easier side to be on, youve already got over the biggest hurdle for the other side, you can literally pick and choose. If someone isn't giving the right signals for what you want, you can just say "sorry im looking for something else out of this" and move onto the next guy. On the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:54 PM
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In most ways yes. They in most cases actually put some effort into talking and it makes conversations much easier and waaaaay more enjoyable. It is just easier, less stressful, and more enjoyable. Why wouldnt that be preferred? You want a partner that is dull boring and a headache?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:47 PM
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Right, which is why i think its silly to say only women find it attractive when a person of the opposite gender initiates. Its just blatantly not true. Its why i disagree. You could list 100 guys that find it makes no difference and i could list 100 guys where to them it makes a big difference. That is how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:43 PM
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Right but you are talking about the top 1% of men by your own admission. Just because they prefer doing that doesnt mean every guy does or thinks that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:38 PM
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I agreed that it was more common, not that it is every man. If its 60% of men its more common, but there is still a decent portion of men that dont believe so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:49 PM
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Big city nightlife generally attracts the kind of women that are into it from my experience. Unfortunately outside of that there's not bundles of opportunities to meet women as someone who doesn't want to use the apps I prefer being kind and respectful without pushing boundaries much but i kept getting called/asked if was gay. So i flipped and tried the other side for a while and it works shockingly well just being an disrespectful and pushy asshole. Where ever you are is where id prefer to be ;…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:47 PM
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The same is true for me and a number of men i know at least. Maybe not all men but a decent portion. If i see a photo of a hot women i don't instantly go AWOOOOOGA ME WANT FUCK SEX AWOOOOGA, it stops at "ooo they're hot" and i think nothing more of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:40 PM
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As much as i would like to say you are wrong... i have tried myself and it genuinely works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:28 PM
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what traits in men do you find sexually attractive that aren't related to their looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:19 PM
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Probably is more common. Women will complain, you will have the same view anyway, and it will more likely than not work for you all regardless. What a lovely world to live in huh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:18 PM
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I'm very aware of how much caution it takes. I used to be 120lb soaking wet and i am short, I have experienced exactly what can happen because i chose the wrong kind of person. I still firmly believe being the person filtering is the easier of the two options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:14 PM
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speak for yourself man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:05 PM
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In my experience its easier. Maybe not easy, but its definitely easier. I'm saying that as a smaller bi guy that was on the more feminine side, i got a lot of attention from men, and it was significantly easier filtering through for what i wanted compared to being the one filtered through. It still took effort and energy with a touch of caution, but it feels like nothing compared to being the one needing to initiate every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:54 PM
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While a man may appreciate it from a woman, it does not fundamentally impact his attraction to her. I heavily disagree with this, it can make a women considerably more attractive when they initiate in the exact same way women think it makes men more attractive. Someone i wouldnt have considered attractive if they were being passive can completely change that view if they try to initiate. We have the same view but men are the ones expected to initiate because that was what we were taught... so we…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:47 PM
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hey Lilith, what excuse it will be this time for OP being single and unable to attract interesting women ;D or is it just the standard experience that you so much refuse to experience for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:11 PM
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My quantity increased after I got my account boosted, because that’s typically what dating apps will do in exchange of you giving them money. Also, being verified lets more people trust your account so they don’t think your account is fake. You guys want to complain about not doing well, but you do nothing to do well. You’re just mad you don’t merely exist and 100 people want you immediately. Yeah, 10x zero is still 0, it doesn't matter if more women see your account if they still don't care to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:01 PM
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I’m verified and I have paid money to boost my account, it made a world of difference. BECAUSE YOU ARE A WOMAN. Jeez this is what I'm saying, you have literally no clue the difference it makes for guys which is practically 0. You are commenting on topics you have no perspective over and surprised when people disagree with you so adamantly. Find a guy friend and do it with them, get on an app they dont use and verify and whatever else and try it. Im sure you have plenty of guy friends and I'm sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:07 PM
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Its always something with you and i promise you, being verified and paying money make practically no difference. If you are so good at it you should be able to attract women without needing to do all of that stuff... or are you saying unless men pay money on dating apps they will not succeed? Just try it, just damn try it, stop coming up with excuses, mention it as a note that your account wasnt verified and you didnt pay... but you can still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:56 PM
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oh just do it yourself will you, im tired of the complaining. This is why i said to do it yourself, tell us how it goes, record it if you feel so inclined to. Show us how its done, be the shining light of real truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:42 PM
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I think theirs definitely a grey area, it isnt black and white. Lots of things are legal but still fucking weird and creepy. If you have ever met any 18 year old man you know full well they are not fully capable of making adult decisions. Have you ever been to college?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:26 PM
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Eh its pointless arguing, this kind of post is just not fit for the sub. It is clearly just ragebait on OPs behalf atleast. The answers in discussion are all personal to each individual so what is their to gain from this type of post?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:24 PM
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this has to be rage bait T~T girl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:23 PM
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The issue is its not a debate, its just a question. explain how this is a debate... genuinely
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:20 PM
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rule 3 and 8?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:19 PM
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crazy how 12 months of age difference completely changes the picture for you tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:17 PM
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maybe go ask your doctor for some new meds. I'm not gonna get anymore involved in this post lmao. The mods not taking it down is ridiculous it has nothing to do with this sub and breaks several rules
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:15 PM
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rage baiting for funsies :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:13 PM
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ehhh idk targetting people who have just turned 18 and are virgins seems like grooming to me, it is purposefully edging the line... and thats only what they are admitting on a public forum remember
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:13 PM
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you really dont, this post is ragebait, you dont need to convince me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:12 PM
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They're 33 going for 18-20 year olds who are virgins. When asked if aim a little older, say 24-26, their exact words were "Nah better younger"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:10 PM
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since we are doing this again... Assuming you are American among other things but who cares it's an educated guess. The population of the US men aged 18-20: ~13,000,000 Previous + 6'0 or above: ~1,300,000 (10% of population) Previous + with a dick 7" or bigger: ~13,000 (1% of the previous) Previous + are attractive: ~3250 (1 in 4 men, generously) Previous + are virgins/low n: ~1,625 (~50% VERY GENEROUS for this type of person) Previous + not selfish in sex: ~1,218 (75% Optimistic for this type o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:08 PM
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If it was as simple as just listening and treating women exactly how they say they want tocbe treated... you get no where, you get nothing. For the longest time i believed exactly what you were saying, then i got into the real world and realised wait a minute none of this is working. I then decided to go against my better judgement, push the feelings of guilt to the side and try being that asshole you hear redpillers complain about... and it worked, it works so well and i hated myself for the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:25 PM
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I cant wait to see why this one isnt valid. How they still made a mistake. OP really refuses to see the other side, its less of a debate and more them wanting to argue about fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:46 PM
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literally a guy... not every guy. Show us how its done, show us what the perfect profile looks like if you have average looks. Instead of bitching that we are so bad without actually helping, show us how its done. You want us to improve, show us how.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:23 PM
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They do it all the time with every comment on every post they make. You'll get used to it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:02 PM
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You are assuming all men that cant find a date are complete hopeless slobs or have unrealistically silly standards and that it must be their fault. So try it yourself. You cant blame anyone for making mistakes then, you can do it perfectly and show all men how its done from your own experience. I cant be bothered looking for a shitty video from a dating guru, id rather get it from you since you are so wise with such good perspective on what women want. Try being a man online, show us how easy li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:52 PM
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You are assuming all men that cant find a date are complete hopeless slobs or have unrealistically silly standards and that it must be their fault. So try it yourself. You cant blame anyone for making mistakes then, you can do it perfectly and show all men how its done from your own experience. Why cant you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:51 PM
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Try. it. Show us all how its done, present your evidence, then this kind of post will have actual merit. You seem to think men are the problem constantly, so actually try it. It should be easy for you to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:38 PM
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Its bold making this claim while never having experienced it from the other side. I'd genuinely love for women to get the standard dating app experience a majority of men get. On a dating app of your choice, set up an account as a guy, use pictures of someone who takes care of themselves but isn't inherently attractive, someone average, and see how well you do. Be you but with a different face basically, hell do it with one of your male friends and see how it goes for you. See how much opportuni…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:49 PM
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speaking the truuuuth
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:49 AM
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What if i have female friends but that only reinforces the negative things? I got told in another post by a woman that all my girl friends are shallow and stupid. Which as much as i disagreed with them... they were kind of right. They're not as interesting or fun as my make friends, they are more superficial and more dull to talk to with an overreliance on their attractiveness. I still like them as friends and respect them and would fight for them, but they are who they are. As much as i really …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:37 AM
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or we can push for people to stop slut shaming in general unless its genuinely perverted and lewd behaviour (i.e no clothes at all in a public space)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:24 AM
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Is it not the same way where men have high standards, they want women to look perfect and dolled up, but will go out with any girl that gives them attention? The standard is high but everyone is an exception
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:09 AM
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OP hasn't met any adult women recently by the sounds of it. The only ones i have met that dont know how to do all of that were teens in college and even then there are far more men that didnt know how to take care of themselves or their living space at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:57 AM
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I'm fitter but so what, it's not like im a professional athlete, I have a regular desk job. I don't have a single need to be in as good of a physical state as im in other than to be more attractive. I didnt eat like shit before, i wasn't unhealthy, i had a bit of tummy fat, not that muscular, just average desk job worker. I wasnt unfit before i put in all of this effort, i just wasn't attractive physically. Literally what benefit is there to being able to lift 220lb vs only being able to lift 12…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:28 PM
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I put the effort in, and i wish i didn't honestly, i wish i had the days of my life back to spend doing things i genuinely enjoyed instead of working so hard to "improve myself" for nothing. I haven't seen a single benefit from doing so physically, financially, or socially. If anything i would be in a genuinely better position if i just didn't bother. As you said, success isn't guaranteed, but neither is failure. You can do everything wrong and still get good outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:14 PM
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no, but they will have plenty of choice
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:00 PM
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so its pot luck, why bother putting in the effort? Why not save the energy and spend your time doing things you enjoy doing, rather than waste it for a "nothing is garunteed"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:52 PM
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"just try harder" very good joke
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:47 PM
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I thought womens beauty standards were really high and men only want women with big tits and a nice ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:31 PM
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read the whole comment. I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:55 PM
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big generalisations there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:14 PM
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What is the debate here actually supposed to be about, you are just making a statement. Like yeah, duh, everyone knows this... some might not want to accept it because it hurts to admit but we all know it's true and how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:44 PM
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The same applies to women, wonen should settle for someone in their league and not whatever top10% guy they think they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:42 AM
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Well im sorry to hear, it should not be that bad
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:24 PM
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The fact it really isnt that god damn hard to give a women an orgasm jeez. If you are even remotely trying and communicating then you should be able to atleast 8 times out of 10. What are you people even doing that you can't???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:01 PM
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Right, but it will be significantly more often than 1/3 of the time still. It literally cannot be worse. It is easy to tell when a guy wont treat you right, i can say that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:57 PM
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If you can't guide a guy to making you orgasm, that's a communication issue honestly. kind and genuine means they are likely to accept the advice you give and improve without being a dick about it. why is that so hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:05 PM
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duh, but most men cant accept that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:03 PM
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I mean i know how it works, I'm attractive and bi, i get the same kind of attention that women do. I know how the game is played by both sides unfortunately well. It is only a game of "entertain me" because women want it to be, not because it inherently is that way. I dont make men jump through silly hoops for my attention. Both sides can have fun if both put a little effort into it but that effort just isnt there from most women because they get so spoiled with attention that they don't care th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:14 PM
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you are strange, i hope you find peace and meet some real people one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:46 PM
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So men just have to be the toy doing all the work for a chance? But if they have to do the work suddenly they're bored and write you out. what joyful equality aye?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:45 PM
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So women should never hookup with guys is your opinion? No sex outside of established well built relationships, even if they want to... or theyre stupid and shallow. Starting to sound like you hate women tbh. Women shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions and take risks, they need to keep themsleves safe, yeah you're right, why not keep going with that ideology, they should just stay at home all the time so no men can kidnap and rape them, we wouldnt want them going out and getting hurt …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:42 PM
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They are not generally shallow, they are only that way when it comes to casual hookups because of how much easier it is for them to get with an attractive guy they wouldnt consider for an LTR. but you are talking about the ones that do. It is so low because they are just going "fuck it im just going to get with the most attractive guy i can for the night". You tell me why they do other than that, how do you know they don't repeat it or are all the women you know stupid and unable to pick a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:33 PM
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Accepting it means accepting you are just not attractive enough. That is difficult for everyone men and women alike. It hurts to accept you arent good looking, and that you will not be good looking enough even if you do everything right. It is something you cant control, and it hurts to have your ego hit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:29 PM
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You can tell if someone is kind and genuine or just faking it to sleep with you. You will have atleast talked a little bit, you can get a general idea. Youre not just hooking up immediately without ever talking. You can see how they bahave and act, if they ask for permission, how they flirt. It is not difficult. If they listen to you when you tell them what you like and dont like is a big one too, if they can follow your requests then woohoo they can listen to what you want in bed and make you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:27 PM
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Alright then, all women must be stupid and shallow all the time, you must have never liked someone for their looks, how dare you think someone is hot. How dare you ever take any risks You decided to drive to work??? STUPID, you could have DIED, you're so stupid. That makes me sound super sane doesn't it. Im sorry but thats how the world works for women who casually hook up on a regular basis. They go out find someone hot and hookup with them. Go out into the real world will you, see what things …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:22 PM
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I'm not saying any that, and i agree with you on everything you just said. I'm asking why do you think they dont deserve to feel like they are desired? Why do women get to enjoy it whenever they want to but men don't, what is the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:08 PM
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Im framing it in the sense of "value" where in this case value is attractiveness... because that is one of the most important things for a casual hookup for both men AND women, thay is why they want to have sex, its not because a deep romantic and sexual connection built over years of trust. Am i wrong? Its an analogy anyway, dont take it so literally. I can frame it a different way if you like but its still the same argument. I will also ask you the question, do you think ugly women dont deserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:51 PM
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That comes off as very black-pill no? Just telling people to completely give up, that they don't get to have any casual sexual attention. That's for women and hot guys only, sorry loser <3 Do you not see that perspective? Why that can be hard to accept as reality, why it may sting and cause men pain? Do you deserve $1,000,000? No, but you would like $1,000,000, especially if you see it being handed out like candy to other people who aren't even that much better than you. It would make you upset …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:36 PM
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Its not a coincidence everytime you guys talk about women, she’s always shallow, fickle, and stupid. Looking in my circles i know these women are not shallow, fickle, and stupid... but when it comes to hookups and quick flings they are willing to be significantly more superficial and open to the idea of just hooking up with an attractive guy for a night for fun, because why not? They're hot, it'll be fun to say "i hooked up with this hot guy, look at the pics of them, they're so attractive". Saf…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:19 PM
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I'm personally curious to know what the value propositions actually are, is it a comfortable balance of reasonable expectations or if it can be completely overruled by having lots of one thing (i.e looks, money, charm). What can a man realistically bring to the table that will be appreciated if they're not in the top say 10% for any of these. If they're just completely average in every way going after completely average women, why do they struggle, what do women have that is so valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:52 PM
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They already do blindly trust men they dont know if they are attractive enough, what world are you living in where that doesn't happen? Have you ever been outside socially in the evening??? If women aren't casually hooking up then where are they getting the statistics from, where are these women meeting people, how are they consistently getting with such awful guys if theyre so picky and cautious, why do they keep doing it if its so awful?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:49 PM
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No? I already do because it needs to be said, i don't need you to tell me to do it. I was making an argument for arguments sake as i said in that comment. You can debate and disagree with the argument, but dont argue at me like I'm personally the problem here or that i even agree with the point in the first place. We both agree with eachother that everyone should be criticised for their poor decisions, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:35 PM
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I already try to but i dont know every man alive, what are you getting at here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:27 PM
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dont have many but i do already :D
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:22 PM
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already do, i dont have issues with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:20 PM
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To survive yes, but life without it is a lot less fulfilling if you have normal hormonal cycles. It is normal to want to have sex, that is quite literally human nature for most individuals. The same way you can survive being completely isolated for a year, but you won't come out the other end completely right in the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:16 PM
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I agree in an ideal world everyone should, its what i do myself... but people get desperate when they run out of options, and most men have far fewer options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:07 PM
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I agree honestly. and just for the sake of argument, you also have to consider the difference in choice volume. In terms of finding a hookup, men dont usually get many options to choose from when looking for women unless they are that top 1%, while women get a literal overwhelming amount of choice even if they are extremely average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:59 PM
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No, and i don't either but, at some point you have to take some risk with people if you want to meet people or hookup or have a relationship. If not then you will just stay alone at home where everyone is a possible murderer and everyone is a possible rapist. I used to be paranoid as fuck about every little single thing like that, because "what if" something happens... If someone wanted to do something to me like that they easily could so i was terrified. Then i started actually going out and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:26 PM
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I've read it several times and I'm struggling to get to the bottom of the point you are actually trying to make. You say men don't appreciate it, then go on to say it is just a better solution to take it slow and vet more men who actually appreciates a woman’s attention instead of acting like he’s entitled to it. Which is most men... so what is the point of this post. You are arguing that a minority of people are assholes and generalising it. How would you feel if i said it's women who don't app…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:57 PM
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You need to find better men honestly. There are lots of men that would freely give women all the time, attention and pleasure they could ever ask for, for nothing in return. It's disrespectful to group up a bunch of losers with everyone else and say men don't appreciate it enough. If you're so picky about who you give your attention to, why do you still end up with someone who can't even make you orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:45 PM
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I kinda agree and kinda don't. It makes it easier in the sense that its easier to find lots of people very quickly... but harder because people are less willing to actually go out and put themselves out there and actually be social and real. I still think in person meeting/dating is the best way to meet someone genuine as they actually are in person without tweaking every little thing to make themselves look perfect. Dating apps just scream desperation or attention seeking to me at least, it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:36 PM
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Have you ever been in love, like real genuine deep love?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:41 PM
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i find this true until they get a taste of genuine love and realise how much better it feels. Lots just want sex because they dont understand love or have never felt it, so they assume sex=love, when its actually feelings of lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:11 AM
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