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Don't give them clicks. https://archive.is/DzYhb
/r/MensRights29/10/15 02:40 PM
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Let's imagine I'm running job interviews for a very specific position that requires people, among many other important things, to have a very strong spine, sense of independence and the courage to stand up to authorities at any moment. I bring in lots of very nice candidates, with great CVs, experience, etc. At some point during the interview, I start being rude and dismissive towards them. I shame them, I make accusations. Some try to defend themselves, some of these guys with great CVs just su…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 07:45 AM
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An eye for an eye...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 12:36 PM
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Fantastic strawman. I can see why you post on the TBP sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 11:33 AM
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Fuck off. I presented a list of studies, you were defending what an Australian leftist rag was saying. I said once, I said it again, you're easily the least intelligent person in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 07:55 PM
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/u/womaninburrow (What was her name actually) said I was a "danger to society" because I called her out in her lies about domestic violence and presented a list of hundreds of peer-reviewed studies that show that women are as violent as men in relationships. Remember, facts that disrupt your bigoted, sexist and ignorant narrative are dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 08:52 AM
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In this thread, more evidence that some people have no empathy or clue about many things. It's not about sex, it's not about being entitled, it's about some young guys who have been lacking intimacy since forever and they crave it because they are still humans, even if some of you are talking like them like if they were subhumans or worse. The problem is that many robots, in example, or incels, are lacking some skills that would allow them to have a chance to grow personally and find someone. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 05:24 AM
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emotional labour Men commit suicide at much higher rate than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 09:14 AM
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When linking to subs with trigger-happy mods, always archive it, so we can read the text and the answers.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 10:23 AM
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Why didn't you ask those questions first instead of lumping everyone together and assume we all follow the same approaches? I'm only into LTRs. I'm not looking for a virgin, but for someone who exclusively only has sex in LTR like me. There's no magical science here. I'm not promiscuous, I don't want a promiscuous partner. Sex takes the time it takes. It's not about the time exactly, but the intentions behind the waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 08:34 AM
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I love how you guys claim something with no sources to back it up. The irony. I can go into TBP, find someone who also posts in Ghazi, who are defending a self-admitted pedophile and do the same claims that started this. Unsurprisingly, it went above your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 05:19 PM
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I still don't see anyone making fun of "rape victims". TBPers are pedophile enablers by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:52 PM
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Strange, /u/powerkick said : RPers make fun of rape victims. I only see a guy who has no flair and (angry) posts in all sorts of different subs. Maybe I'll try again : [citation needed] Perhaps this time I can get proof that RPers make fun of rape victims. Otherwise, I can say that BPers defend pedophiles, because there's at least one person defending Sarah Butts who posts in the BP subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 01:44 PM
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So explaining what third wave feminism is = being triggered? As I said, some of you should stick to the "satire" subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 10:24 AM
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RPers make fun of rape victims. That really should be the end of the story. [citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 10:23 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 01:55 PM
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Classic shaming argument. Some of you BPers should stick to your "le satire lol" sub and stop coming to a DEBATE forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 07:01 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 07:27 AM
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How is that even related to what he wrote? Seriously, try to explain it. Even if 99% of women believed that abortion was morally wrong, men would still lack the choice to abort the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 07:23 AM
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To the TBP idiot who upvoted this person, it's a troll. Good job. You're agreeing with a parody of feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 07:21 AM
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Fascinating argument. I want to play too! What if he has a cloak of invisibility he can just put over the sexbot???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 06:00 PM
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Not walking away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:29 PM
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So how exactly is whining in America helping women get permission to drive in Saudi Arabia?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 09:17 AM
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and yes, I made a thread in TBP I decided to check it, out of curiosity. Top comment : Let me get this straight: if a woman gets pregnant against a man's will, it's evil sperm-jacking. If a man tries to get a woman pregnant against her will, it's totally fine and acceptable. I went then to reread the comments in the MRP sub and I can't find anything remotely similar to anyone saying this. In my opinion, most comments in that thread were quite mature and straight to the point. I don't really foll…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 05:03 AM
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Mommy cat teaches her offspring how to clean themselves. If you find a stray cat that was taken away from her mother early on, it may even struggle to know how to eat properly and may never learn how to clean itself. I guess that cats cleaning themselves is a social construct, because if it was biological, cats would already know how to do it and wouldn't need teaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:51 AM
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Reading comprehension, use it please. Samewise. If a serious issue for women is public breastfeeding, maybe there's really no need for feminism anymore as that pales compared to the things I stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:48 AM
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But well done on being a moron and making it another 'us vs them' thing. So it was me? but you're deluded and very stupid if you think that women don't face serious issues that men don't really have to worry about. Oh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:46 AM
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don't face serious issues that men don't really have to worry about. fear of women's bodies and female sexuality generally dismissive attitude towards a lot of women Men are so lucky that women get all the serious issues, while men only have silly stuff like the the majority of suicides or work casualties, zero reproduction rights, a general feeling of being ignored when it comes to sexual and physical assault inside a relationship, etc. I wish that the men who are homeless, who vastly outnumber…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 07:58 PM
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Never used the words AWALT Guilty. Never claimed you weren't racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. and then proceeded to make remarks of that nature in the same sentence Guilty when I was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 03:05 PM
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I imagine that if men could divorce-rape their ex-wives, they would also do it. People do stuff like this because they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 05:27 PM
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LTR is my own sexual strategy. Due to a lot of my own personal traits (strengths, fears, weaknesses), LTR is what suits me better by far. I'd even say that it's in LTR when you have a bigger chance to apply RP and TRP principles, as the challenges are constant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 11:12 AM
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You can be a MRA without being a "beta & incel" or the other way around. I don't even see the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 12:28 PM
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LTR oriented red pill. I'm not fully red pill, more like very red purple pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 07:59 AM
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Attractive physically (I groom, dress nicely, work out). Confident and secure. Stable job with long term projection (My field is growing very fast, it's looking very good for me). I'm also constantly studying things on a second plane, just to keep developing as a person. Fun, witty, open minded. Solid support (emotionally mostly) Loyal and honest. I know what I'm doing in bed and I'm not a selfish lover. Good with kids (if it comes to it).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 06:04 PM
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"the media never criticizes women" Which I never said. Keep up. That was to illustrate that there's a lot of groups which get preferential treatment from the judicial system. Because the topic is about women getting preferential treatment from the judicial system. You're using the Fallacy of relative privation fallacious argument. You're upset about women getting good treatment in court because of the feeeemale aspect of it, not because you're outraged by injustices in the judicial system. I alr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 08:03 AM
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I provided a counterexample You didn't, you added race to a discussion where there was no need. The reason why there's a racial disparity in USA in the court system is not related to this discussion at all. A counterexample would be showing how women get, generally, less empathy/sympathy in the media or in the court system. If you don't think that those are valid methods of debate then like 90% of TRP is bullshit lol No, it's not valid because you're not addressing my arguments, just throwing so…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 08:14 PM
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I wouldn't want to apply the exact same argument you made to show how ridiculous you sound. So in order to prove how ridiculous I sound, you have to use a fallacious argument? If I sounded so ridiculous, you wouldn't have any issues dismantling my arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 07:50 PM
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Of course they can be shitty people, you'd have to be socially retarded to not realize that. You didn't read my post. Literally yesterday I made a post about the exact opposite. Maybe you only see what you want to see. The TRP is not a huge part of the media or the court system. So I assume you hate how white people have it so easy in America and how they get a "whitey-pass" for everything and how the Whites are Wonderful effect is pervasive in the media, right? That's a fallacious argument. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 04:56 PM
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What is a good solution to this? do you have any ideas OP? Education is the answer to many problems and here is no exception. I think that young girls need to learn accountability in the same measure as young boys and make sure this stays until they are adults (EDIT:And through adult life of course). There are some biological aspects behind this mentality and that's probably not going to be totally changed, but you can change small things that naturally evolve into bigger things. In example, in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 11:42 AM
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we need more feminism Sure, because modern feminism has been great at making sure women are accountable for their crimes, right? I don't see the #samesentencesforwomen hashtagh slacktivism anywhere coming from feminists. Will you start it? What about the media? Secondly the "he's a poor, sad boy who was bashed and neglected as a child and needs to be looked after, not punished" is a very big part of why women go for bad boys and write to inmates. She doesn't want to fuck Chad, she wants to rescu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 11:23 AM
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When you interrupt a man's day to force him to change clothes, or send him home because his shorts are too tight or his chest hair is visible, you are telling him that making sure that women have a distraction free working environment is more important than his own work. Instead of shaming men for their bodies, teach women that men are not relationship objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 10:39 AM
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Alpha as fuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 01:05 PM
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I think Arnold is. That man has basically done everything. Like, how exactly can you top that in the current times? Top bodybuilder, top actor, Governor of a state that is bigger and/or richer than a large % of countries in the World, married a Kennedy...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 11:48 AM
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Yeah, it reminds me of that time when that famous Blue Piller admitted to be a cuck and on the low side of IQ and wanted to convert all other men to be like him. Remember it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:48 AM
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Very unflattering picture and she's not my style, but I'd still say she's definitely above 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:38 AM
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Yep, thanks for that. I was a bit in a hurry with my messages, so I left things a bit too vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:42 AM
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I said "abusive" though, not abusive. Maybe I should have explained what I meant. Those cocky rude men that refuse to be pinned down or controlled, are the ones that many women call "abusive", but refuse to leave. There's no physical or emotional violence happening. Then there's Henry the wife-beater, who had been married four times, had had issues with justice due to his wife beating ways, yet old lovers were flocking to him. It's the guy from the Radicalizing the Romanceless blog article.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:25 PM
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Seeing how many well-educated women are in "abusive" relationships for years and years, I wonder who exactly is living in a different planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 12:35 PM
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You can do it by reading around. The ones I've read are saying that Roosh was serious and only cried "satire!" once the backlash started. I don't want to link to their comments to not get into name&shame, but it can be easy to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 07:16 AM
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I was wondering how you would describe your parents. I can, but I'm going to do this from just the approach to dating, relationships, sex, etc. So this is going to read like I hate my parents or something, but I'm just talking about this particular topic. They have taught me very important things in other departments that have been very valuable in my life, plus I can't say I was never provided to or anything. When you grew up, did your parents have an equal relationship or was there a power dyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 07:14 AM
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10%. But you know, if I shared some of my personal life experiences, not just with women, 90% of them would end in /r/thathappened. So I try to keep in mind, when reading certain stories, that even if they sound very unbelievable, they could have happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 07:07 AM
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Weasel words.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 12:15 PM
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Millions of years of anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 08:33 AM
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They've created an entire PPD thread about me and I have received several PM death threats overnight. Post them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 08:02 PM
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Wonderful Life by Hurts would be about rape most likely : On a bridge across the Severn on a Saturday night Susie meets the man of her dreams He says that he got in trouble and if she doesn't mind He doesn't want the company . But there's something in the air, they share a look in silence And everything is understood Susie grabs her man and puts a grip on his hand As the rain puts a tear in his eye She says, "Don't let go Never give up, it's such a wonderful life Don't let go Never give up, it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 06:06 PM
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Come on, that's unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 02:00 PM
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Yeah...but well, quite fake, unless they expanded once her skating career was over.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 01:59 PM
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I'm into LTRs, I don't like casual sex and I don't pursue it, but : How do you reconcile your decision with the fact that most people of high status prefer monogamy? They prefer monogamy in public. It's a public image thing. Also : Vladimir Putin: married since 1984 Yeah, about that...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 01:40 PM
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If he fooled you, then sucks to be as gullible as you. Great projection. His piece was obviously satire, you were fooled by it, and now project your reaction unto the other side. Roosh is not a special snowflake protected by the media that he can allow himself to post retarded stuff like that. He's not Jessica Valenti or the other feminists from the clan who can get away by saying ridiculous things. Roosh would be in serious trouble if he really meant what he meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 06:28 AM
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Any feminist icon attacked in public gets many hoo-rahs from TRP every single time. Can you show me evidence of this? A feminist icon being assaulted and the attacker getting "hoo-rahs" from the TRP subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 07:08 PM
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Magua understands that the white man is a dog to his women. Even when he is on the warpath, he will set down his tomahawk to feed their laziness. I don't know about the book, but in the movie, Magua is certainly not a villain in my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 08:50 PM
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We can't know it for sure. Ask most Russian women how they like their men. That'll tell you enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 07:16 PM
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TRP is just 100,000 people. That's a small population of the world. There are millions and millions of men and women who believe in the same principles as the red pill, but they don't call it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:13 PM
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I had only been single for very brief periods of time so I never got to experience a "wild" period where you don't have to worry about the consequences. That's what I got mostly from it. What do you mean, you don't have to worry about the consequences? What kind of adult mentality is that? There are always consequences, positive or negative, to every choice or action. That line alone explains many things from women (and men) on that age bracket...that's a childish mentality, not an adult one.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/15 07:48 AM
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Sounds like bogus statistics as usual. Of every 100 incidents of sexual assault, only 6 are reported to the police How can that number be known then? Self-reporting polls with misleading questions again? There's this video by a Danish company filmed in Spain, about false DV accusations. It seems that, following what you said, thousands of women are killed in Spain every year by their partner (the number is actually 40-50) since they approved the law of domestic violence some years ago. What a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 07:48 AM
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For every man who was falsely accused of domestic violence, there's at least as many woman who got murdered in a case of domestic violence. For every false rape accusation, there's equally a rape victim somewhere faced with legislation that requires him/her to provide incredibly intimate details. This is not to say that "men have it better" or that, "false accusations aren't harmful", but that this issue affects both genders. You wrote that, then you also write : Do you have actual sources to ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 09:13 PM
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how biologically alpha is that anyway? its more like shes using the white guys for a cheap fuck but they have no chance to marry her or IMPREGNATE HER The thing is, birth control is artificial in a way. The goal of sex is to spread genes, but birth control is not really taken into account in this at some very primitive level. When a man is having lots of sexual partners, he's following a genetic imperative, but birth control is stopping him from fathering dozens of children. If there was no birt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 09:08 PM
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Few years ago, still in the process of fully unplugging though. It's funny though, in many senses I regain a lot of the past mentality, including a bit of the "women are wonderful effect", but basically every single woman I come across that we have some sort of connection, is in a relationship. It's really dragging my opinion of women through the mud...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 08:12 AM
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Each of these examples are single male victims. . Amy Bishop Anderson killed three and wounded three others at the University of Alabama on February 12th, 2010 (Two men, one woman) Heather Smith killed two then committed suicide at Spanaway Junior High School on November 26th, 1985 . Sylvia Seegrist killed three and injured seven during a shooting spree at a Springfield mall on October 30th, 1985 Two men, one 2 years old boy. Jennifer San Marco killed eight people at Goleta postal facility on Ja…
/r/MensRights02/08/15 08:10 AM
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sorry you're not caught up with the rest of the world No one uses heteronormative except SJWs, which are the minority in the Western World and basically non-existent outside Western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 08:11 PM
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Can you give me corollary examples of events where a woman has killed many men out of pure misandry? Maybe this list will be of your interest : http://just-smith.tumblr.com/post/88226197332/dontneedfeminism-thatladysif-a-fucker-named
/r/MensRights01/08/15 02:02 PM
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Yeah man, where's the trigger warning? Got to take care about using those big words without the proper trigger warnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 07:50 AM
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She thinks I'm some dummy that is just gonna let her walk all over me. Can't imagine why she'd think so.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/15 01:25 PM
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I lit her ass up because she went on a date with my old college roommate and ended up going home with another guy that night, so I didn't want to hear her shit. [triggered]
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:33 AM
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I never said you had to be masculine to be that way, but being masculine comes with it.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 11:29 AM
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I have been on various occasions, but the worst was last year when I was in a business-social gathering, with a proportion of 10 to 1 (women to men) and the average age of the people involved being 40-45. This sober woman on her 40s (attractive though) had been living in my hometown for some years and at first she wouldn't let me alone because she wanted to share her experiences of living there and compare them with mine. We kinda knew each other from similar events, but I had never talked with …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:28 AM
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A masculine man can't be controlled, shamed, brainwashed, etc. Of course feminists want to get rid of such men and the best way to do it is to make sure that young boys never become masculine men.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 11:17 AM
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She says "but we have all this work to do?! Why is he wanting all this sex from me!? Doesn't he realize we have more important things to do and think about!? He is SO DEMANDING and SO UNREASONABLE!" Before anyone says that he's straw(wo)maning, this is, almost word by word, what that excel spreadsheet wife said in that post at 2XC.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 08:14 AM
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+/u/User_Simulator /u/quintus_pillus
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 09:00 AM
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+/u/User_Simulator /u/quintus_pillus
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 08:55 AM
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Ah yes, thanks. I was wrong then to assume they wouldn't include it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 08:49 AM
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There's a fallacious argument that is about this, but I can't remember the name. Basically, you try to equal two sides with the "I know both sides, they are the same, but with different ideas" (One blue piller in this sub does exactly this), when one side is a lot worse than the other. TRP misogyny that hardly ever reaches any comments that may incite to violence is put on the same level as "We should kill 90% of whitey men".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 08:32 AM
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Did they use the MS Estonia in the study? It was in 1994, 852 dead, 11 survivors, 12 who were first survivors, then added to the list of casualties (there's some controversy-conspiracy around the entire thing). The survivor gender was 7 men, 4 women. Although with that tiny survival rate, maybe it doesn't really work for the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 08:28 AM
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Since I'm into LTR only and those don't come so easily, I've two 2.5-3 years dry spells. I don't have "raging testosterone levels" that annoy me, but the psychological effects are massive. The negative effect on my mood, my attitude, my energy levels (physical and mental) and my mind overall is huge. I can say that after a period of time (I'd say that 1.5 years is the mark), it starts to fuck me up. Subconsciously I start to question myself, everything I do, everything I've done. Yet I have to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 09:27 AM
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I have no doubt it makes things worse, that's why I am against fat shaming, but I'm even more against the fat acceptance movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:01 PM
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Maybe that what other people do is none of your business and you (general) should just take that pointy busy body nose and keep it to yourself unless asked for your opinion. They put an extra strain on the public health system, which is paid by my taxes. It's my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 09:12 AM
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"Friends" is basically unwatchable after swallowing the red pill. Ross has that student as a redeeming moment (Bruce Willis' character's daughter), but Chandler? Joey is the only one displaying alpha traits and he's borderline retarded. Mike (Phoebe's fiance) also got it.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 09:56 AM
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If they have been in solid relationships that have lasted 3-6 years, I can't see why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:00 PM
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With monogamous I mean monogamous long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:00 PM
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So hot and sexual monogamous women don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:31 PM
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That's a very naive thing to say and it displays a serious lack of self-awareness and knowledge of human behaviour. Everyone, in one way or another, checks where the boundaries of other people lie and react accordingly. It's a quite normal human(animal)behaviour, but it does happen mostly in a rather subtle way, especially at the beginning of any sort of social relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:09 PM
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It's a theoretical example. People test each other's boundaries constantly, without realizing. "With how much I can get away with?".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:15 PM
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My father had lots of alpha traits when growing up. Had tons of lovers, did many interesting things, made tons of friends from all around Europe, etc. Then he met my mother and eventually married her. He gradually transformed from a man full of energy and life into a man with social anxiety who's been on antidepressants for years. Their relationship was my role model for my "feminist-based relationships". Some years ago he stumbled into an old friend, whose life story was basically the same as m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:09 PM
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Most of those tests are subconscious and subtle, it has nothing to do with teasing or being in bad mood. The way I was introduced to them is with this example (or similar) : A man is sitting down watching a football match, drinking his beer and enjoying some pop corn, when his wife comes and asks him if he can take out the trash now as it's starting to smell. He says "I'll do it after the match is over", but she keeps pushing the matter. There are two things here : One, she can do it herself. Tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:01 PM
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Some are naturally occurring, and yes, some are deliberately put their by others including but not limited to, family, employers, romantic partners, etcs. Who allows those to interfere to the point that they strip away your power? Those without boundaries, those giving away their power.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:13 PM
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For those eventually wanting a LTR (either now or eventually) what type of girl are you looking for? Ambitious (not necessarily career wise, but she wants things in life), interesting (it's subjective), similar values when it comes to money, sex, children, problem solving and health-oriented (does physical exercice, no smoking, little or no drinking).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 12:17 PM
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I don't align with many RP beliefs, but I want to give your post a reply. Demoting a girlfriend to a plate without telling her. Call it whatever you want but you're cheating. That's something that both, men and women, RP or not, do. I think that people call it "checking out emotionally". You read "I demoted my girlfriend to a plate" and it sounds cold and harsh, but that's exactly the same that a woman is doing when looking for a new man while being in a relationship to hop from one relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 12:13 PM
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Incorrect. HPV. Use latex condoms the right way every time you have sex. This can lower your chances of getting HPV. But HPV can infect areas that are not covered by a condom - so condoms may not give full protection against getting HPV;
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 10:17 PM
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Either way I don't see this argument going any further. It doesn't because you don't see men and women as different things. Men and women want different things, so different aspects, traits or values are placed in a different position in the ranking of attractive things. Is this really hypocrisy? I'll ask you again : Is a woman an hypocrite if she's expecting her man to be very strong emotionally while she's not? Is a woman an hypocrite if she wants a man that is very confident while she's not? …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 10:10 PM
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In the end, people should be free to do whatever they want, while legal, and accept the consequences for that. However : Having a preference over preferring a non-promiscuous woman is shamed by both "modern men and women". You made your choice, let me do mine. Sometimes the shaming takes a different form, sort of "Well, she was confused, but she's found you and she's changed, isn't that lovely?". That probably works for many men with bruised egos. Many promiscuous women will lie about their past…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 10:08 PM
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I feel you're either confused or you're trying to confuse me. Morals are relative and they are about comparing actions or thoughts to see if they are good or bad. However, that's up to decide to each person, society, culture, etc. LOLwut? Being good at finances is a practical skill. Has nothing to do with morality. Being good at finances can be good for a person or not so important for others, that's why you do a moral judgement in the same way as you do it for promiscuity. Self-control is also …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:58 PM
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Being terrible at finances is a moral judgement in the same veil as a partner having a promiscuous past. You're trying to determine if that person's lifestyle suits your own and, for the most part, promiscuity and poor finances management tend to cause fissures in serious relationships. I don't see that as being an hypocrite as hypocrisy is about pretending to have some moral values and in the examples you're giving, I don't see the pretending aspect. Judging someone's habits and morals based on…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:49 PM
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My problem is with people who have no qualms about sleeping around but demand their partners' pasts be spotless My problem is with people who have no qualms about being short, but demand their partners to be tall. My problem is with people who have no qualms being terrible at finances, but demand their partners to be good at them. And so on. There's no such thing as "double standards" in relationships unless you apply them to every single thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:28 PM
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the red pillers despise women who sleep with many guys That's not true. What red pillers say is that don't end in serious relationships with this kind of women. There's no slut shaming or hate or despising here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 11:56 AM
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They ain't no redpill but they are still msyogynists. Hehe, getting defensive are we? Read the comments and you will see. Will he post evidence?
/r/MensRights11/07/15 08:24 AM
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Yes, but in a different way. That's my opinion anyways. In the end, human relationships are a constant power struggle. If someone is needier than you, you already have an edge over them. It doesn't matter if it's a romantic relationship, a partnership deal, a friendship. If suddenly the other person stops being needy, the power balance is shaken and people react differently to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 08:11 AM
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Because most men in relationships are in constant dread-game mode. How many options do their girlfriends have? Quite more than him, most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 10:34 PM
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Theres women-hating all over the media. What media is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:29 PM
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Monogamist and former feminist. Am I on the right track?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 09:40 AM
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People don't care about or even notice all the "offensive" assumptions made about men because they are all socially acceptable, unlike the ones made about women. That's a very important point. Last week, a male teenager was cast for Game of Thrones Season 6. He's a bit puffy, that's how it is, but he's cast because he'll be playing a puffy-looking character. Until here, nothing strange, except that everywhere where I read about the casting, there were constant jabs at his weight mixed with jokes…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 07:58 AM
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All my relationships, except one, were started by the women approaching me, some more subtly, some others more direct. At some point, between relationships, I just didn't bother doing any approaching, knowing that women would come to me. If you can sit back, relax and let the others do the effort and judge their efforts, why bother approaching yourself? It's some sort of rhetorical question, as I do prefer to approach now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 07:59 PM
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why do you think red pill says so little on this topic? It's not the red pill, is everyone in the topic of sexuality. How often do STDs come up when people talk about the female sexual liberation and promiscuous women? I'd say it's a mistake (avoid talking about it) in either case. Especially in the case of women, who have more chances of becoming infected and those STDs can ruin their fertility. The risks are higher for women than for men. Still, again, it's a mistake, in any serious discussion…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 07:56 PM
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When all the lies I've been taught about women and relationships were turning my life into a nightmare of which I had to wake up sooner or later. The last "plugged" relationship, with a feminist by the way, screwed me in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 07:55 PM
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Always archive links to sites like this one, so they don't get extra hits and feel encouraged to continue with the rage-bait. https://archive.is/IGnSe https://archive.is/ezGlK https://archive.is/JqjOz https://archive.is/pr4dM
/r/MensRights09/07/15 07:44 AM
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So the day where I agree with the line of thought of /u/taiboworks has arrived. I guess the end is nigh. One of the reasons why the concept of "plate spinning" is just not for me, is STDs. Even with condom, you are at risk of getting some surprise there and there, and while as a man you have less chances to get infected than as a woman, some of them are there forever, some others can ruin your life or even kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 07:18 AM
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But TRP will also feed them hate of women which will affect their long-term relationships. The women in their lives will have managed to do that themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 09:23 PM
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The hypocrisy is astounding : It's nothing short of sadistic. Your tone is saccharine and condescending, but the forensic detail in which you express your disgust at my body is truly grotesque. The only possible objective for writing it is to wound me.(So let me write a letter with a very similar tone where I'll pick on your hobbies, in example) I like the way I look. (If that was true, you'd have not ended "in tears" when you were on a date with someone else) I have to ask - we all know the int…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/15 09:39 AM
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I'm talking about men who regularly visit prostitutes when they could improve their lives instead. Yes, they could start visiting TRP and learn one or two things that may help them. Do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 09:30 AM
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I understand better what he said now that you explained it, thanks. I think it's similar to forever-alone, a word to quickly convey what's the message behind it. If someone says he's a "kv", I quickly know what it means and what it entails. So why not. Anyways, now I understand what he meant exactly, so my point above is redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 09:26 AM
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I didn't talk about being empathetic with robots, but about "incel is not a thing". My sentence order probably leads to confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 09:18 AM
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I felt quite annoyed when I posted my thread about BPers (and feminists, SJWs, etc.) denying my upbringing experiences...only to have my experiences denied by the same collective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:43 AM
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A concept brought to you by the very same people who mock "pansexual" or "micro aggressions" on tumblr. [citation needed] Incel is not a thing - you simply can't get laid. Great display of empathy. Have you ever visited r9k or FA forums? If I only wanna bang models and pornstars but can't, am I an Incel too??? No, it makes you a smartass for mocking incels by attacking the semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:40 AM
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Only the guys under 5 feet, butt ugly, over weight, etc. would actually never realistically get laid naturally. But how often times such a man exists is negligible IMO. Or with lots of social issues, like social anxiety, poor social skills, very poor examples when growing up, the consequences of bullying, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:39 AM
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Shows a lack of clear forward thinking. Like you show a lack of empathy. When men go there, clear forward thinking was lost a long time ago already. Look at the young guys losing their virginities to escorts after having been to therapy for years, trying this, trying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:32 AM
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Except it's not the case in that same thread, with a woman saying that she may have to break up with her boyfriend due to his size. Mind that it's her choice and these things are not fair, that's how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:23 AM
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No, I do not attract those types of men. I get different compliments...which are hard to decipher, because my friends say the same things :/ What kind of compliments? "You do look ravishing today, m'lady"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:11 AM
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Women were oppressed for centuries. While men were happily living a free live, with no constraints whatsoever. Your feudal lord wanted you to march dozen of kilometers just to get boiled oil poured over your head? Sorry bro, I'm farmin'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:07 AM
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I've never seen this, nor do I agree with it. Now you have. I linked to that comment because he explains it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:04 AM
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no. Circular logic. The men who go to prostitutes go there because most women don't want them, so if they go to prostitutes, most women won't want them? Woman doesn't want you -> go to prostitutes -> woman doesn't want you. Basically what he's saying is not wrong (not saying it's totally right either) and your argument is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 11:01 AM
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There is nothing preventing MRAs from doing what these ladies did. Nothing except that people, as a group, don't care as much as for men as for women. They sent four hundred letters and got $700 a month. How much do you think you can raise for charity for men? It's disingenuous to claim that there's nothing preventing MRAs from doing that when the reason that those shelters are needed it's because there's a lot of things preventing it. There are many users in this same subreddit who don't take w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:59 PM
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Would you say that there is no overlap? I never said there's no overlap, because there is in the demographics, but not in ideals, as they are totally different things. It's like comparing being a liberal and being a vegetarian. Is there overlap in the demographic? Seems so, but does that mean that being a liberal and a vegetarian are the same? Not really. TRPers tend to support the MGTOW movement also. Another life philosophy. Another common theme was their generalizations, which I already point…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 05:01 PM
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how about, instead of playing mind games, you actually sit down and talk to her about these things? Maybe she has no idea how unhappy you are. That doesn't work as well as it sounds like. I know from experience and having lots of "Ok, let's sit down, let's share our feelings on the matter and let's see what's wrong". Two years of that can pass very fast actually... "You can't negotiate attraction" is probably my favourite red pill truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:52 PM
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It seems to me feminists focus on workplace stuff and politics. Gender politics. If you push the belief that being a man is a bad thing, you're having an influence in dating/relationships/sexuality. If you keep supporting certain lies, laws, etc. you're influencing dating/relationships/sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:49 PM
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And she's much happier now. I believe it. She was told there was something wrong with her, when maybe there wasn't, or it was the consequence of something totally different, and now she's found a "cure". Just out of curiosity, is it your sister's daughter?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:48 PM
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You already pasted this link. I can't access the study and I reiterate my point, what if it's true? What if they are trying to create a cause based on the consequence? Circular argumentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:46 PM
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One is a political movement that wants to challenge the current status on gender issues and try to work on improve things for men, which include black men, if you ever visited the MRA subreddit you'd be able to see that. PUA is just for picking up girls using "tactics" or whatever that thing is. It's a hard knock on your credibility to say that you checked TRP "frequently" but can't tell those apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:44 PM
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Used to visit the red pill frequently, although I never considered myself one. What always kept me from going full MRA/PUA was how silly most of the generalizations were. So you visited "the red pill" frequently, but still can't differentiate between MRA and PUA?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:40 PM
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Your view is dangerously out of date. Please educate yourself. It's not out of date considering how much controversy there's around ADHD. This is not some anti-vaccine thing, it's about some symptoms that may not be related to hyperactivitity being put together and creating a disorder. In a way, it's similar to ME/CFS. But I know, I'm a danger to society. It took 6 months with a developmental pediatrician, blood tests, cat scans, an MRI, psychiatrists and educational ilps for my niece to be diag…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 12:09 PM
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That's still not what is happening, especially in exact subjects like maths or science.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 12:04 PM
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I totally agree. I think that Red Pill Philosophy or just being "red-pilled" can be a good distinction, but the terms are already too intertwined to have a chance to differentiate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 12:04 PM
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I'd say the original philosophy attacked all fronts of the lies (media, Government, politics in general), with the modern RP focusing a lot on the sexual aspect of it. Mind that a lot of the lies told are related to sex and relationships in one way or another. I think that a lot of MRAs were former feminists who got red-pilled. Some of the threads that are posted there time to time show a lot of anecdotes related to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:52 AM
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Clearly oneitis, ex's etc from your blue pill days are capable of pulling you back into beta behaviour. I don't think it's limited to oneitis and beta behaviour. I believe that human interactions become quite solid in time and it's very difficult to break out of the mold. I'd say that the rebellious stage of teenagers come from that, an attempt to break from the parent-child routine. What I mean is, with particular individuals, you get into a mold of behaviour and it's hard to break out. I think…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/15 11:46 AM
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Anti-feminism is closely related to the original Red Pill philosophy though, the one directly inspired from The Matrix. You wake up to the lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:40 AM
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Have a known abuser in the initial line-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:39 AM
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That's nowhere close what you said though. "Boys do better at maths/science" seems to be quite accurate. Teachers may believe it because...it's true, but that doesn't mean that they are thinking "girls don't belong here!".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:35 AM
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I expected that : Women fail somewhere? SOCIETY. Men fail somewhere? Stop being little cunts! Boys are "failing" at school because they fuckarse around, don't listen, refuse to study, The removal of things like recess, playing "violent" sports, banning certain game types have had an effect on it. Boys are bored. Instead of fixing that, they get diagnosed made up disorders and given Ritalin. and just expect to be given a pass on a ok after because penis. If they weren't such entitled little princ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 11:31 AM
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It's common knowledge by now (unless you want to ignore it). Googling "boys failing in school" has lots of different sources, articles, studies, etc. If you go further and check for university enrollment, you'll see how the issue doesn't fix itself at later ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:21 AM
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Show me those traditional sources please.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:20 AM
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What I'm telling you is that one tiny random anecdote doesn't counter the argument that the education system is stacked against boys in the Western World. That library made a silly mistake, they corrected it, end of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:13 AM
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Mind that I don't like field reports that much, but : you could just as easily write about that experience; i don't see why anyone couldn't. it would be different, but no less worth writing about, right? Worth writing? Yes, worth reading? Probably not. The idea of field reports is to use specifics of the red pill tenet and show them in action. It makes a lot more sense to show them in fast-happening situations instead of things that happen overtime. unless you're just looking for the quickest, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:11 AM
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What do you make of this? Do you think we're all lying? Delusional? I don't think they are lying or delusional, but : Most BPers who are in a relationship post here to feel vindicated. If they were single and/or unsuccessful for a while, their approach to advice and arguing would be compromised. Why? Because they would be projecting their own ad hominem attacks ("You can't get a girl, therefore, you're this or that"). For what I've noticed, most of their relationships work with the woman in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 10:52 AM
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What kind of field report would you write if you met someone through mutual interests/acquaintances though? That's why field reports often come from very specific instances.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 10:48 AM
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i've never really thought about the specifics; being a homebody in a monogamous long term relationship nearly guarantees i won't run into most red pillers because we simply don't frequent the same places or share the same interests. I'm a "homebody" who looks for monogamous long term and a red piller. I think you believe that red pillers just hang out at the night club or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 07:43 AM
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A guy, because if I choose a woman, I'll still be going to jail for being the "main threat" or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 06:43 PM
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You were the one who likened having your son killed to having the wife you cheated on chase you with your golf club. I didn't do that either, I tried to show you, in one specific example, how it goes for powerful people and how it also goes the other way around. Maybe I should have used different examples, but that one works because it's two-in-one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 12:12 PM
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I will if you quote me saying or implying that, hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 12:03 PM
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Never said or remotely implied that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 11:57 AM
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My point is that it also happens the other way around as I've showed you in that other reply, where your newspaper link says that women being as violent as men inside a relationship is a "dangerous fiction".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 10:20 AM
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Domestic violence goes 50/50. From the article : Do women abuse as much as men? No. The idea that domestic violence is “gender equal”, and that women’s violence against men is a “silent epidemic”, is nonsense. No source provided, but I do have one with over 500 studies. Here. Men do suffer domestic violence, at the hands of both female and male partners. They can become isolated, humiliated and injured, and they too need support. But when men’s rights groups claim that one in three victims of fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 10:19 AM
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Now a child is dead because the mens rights mob made keeping children safe less important than their desire to use said child. Amazing. Some of you BPers are a walking source of irony, projection and hypocrisy. It's hard to keep up sometimes. Two words for you : Dear Zacchary. Wiki link.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 09:41 AM
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The only thing that was killed was his career. It was his wife who beat him up using a golf club. While it was an obvious case of domestic violence, the official version still talks about some car accident. It was hidden under the rug. He also had to go, live on TV, to apologize for his infidelities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 09:36 AM
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I think the problem with BPers (and I'm not a RPer) is that they simply refuse to acknowledge reality. They believe in egos and believe that if they accept how society and sex/dating works, they'll become jaded cynics. If they were to agree with TRP, they would be suddenly put in a place of responsibility. They would find themselves with bigger shoes to fill and that takes a lot of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 09:32 AM
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Good review. This thread has lots of very good content. I'm thinking of compiling it somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 09:30 AM
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From the 48 Laws of Power : Your actions must seem natural and executed with ease. All the toil and practice that go into them, and also all the clever tricks, must be concealed. When you act, act effortlessly, as if you could do much more. Avoid the temptation of revealing how hard you work—it only raises questions. Teach no one your tricks or they will be used against you. One important thing I've learned from the manosphere in general is that, rather often, talking less is better. If you don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 09:28 AM
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Powerful men want to keep domestic violence victims quiet Powerful people want to keep crime victims quiet. Fixed that for you. Now tell me again how men are the real victims here. Great straw man. Remember when that female golf player was chased out home by her husband wielding one of her golf clubs and beat her up with it? The outrage against him was massive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 09:13 AM
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It depends on whether is part of your plan or not.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/15 12:56 PM
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Peter Griffin agrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 10:54 AM
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So apply what you just said to RPW (because there are lots of women there who don't post in that subreddit but are RPW at heart by own will) and stop being an hypocrite then. RPW isn't a club or even a singular, cohesive movement because there are so many different interpretations. There are individuals that make decisions and act in ways due to RPW ideas, but this isn't one club. There aren't a set of commandments. there isn't a "RPW" bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:00 AM
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I was the other way around. I used to think I was an extrovert, then I developed confidence and embraced my introversion. Many things started to make sense, especially why social gatherings could be so draining.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/15 05:58 AM
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"My view" or the way feminism is handling itself in most Western countries now? Actions, not words.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 03:06 PM
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I'm a feminist The only problem I might have with some RPW is that they put down women that don't choose to live like they do. The irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 06:17 AM
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That's what I meant. If you can't be picky because you're not attractive enough to afford being picky, you end having to accept whatever comes. I didn't word it very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 04:02 PM
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Something like this, no doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 02:11 PM
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You're an idiot. Great way to start an argument. gaming is mostly done solo. Besides (solo)RPGs and similar, most games now are multiplayer. RTS, Shooters, Fighting Games are almost exclusively multiplayer games. MOBAs and MMORPGs are obviously multiplayer games. Secondly I've introduced a ton of girls around me into gaming (specifically into a love of the original DOOM and DOOM2) - does that mean I'm part of: "a political infiltration of male spaces"?? How many are a "ton"? Statistics don't lie…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 02:00 PM
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I have the feeling that it won't get so bad. The backlash all this SJWism is going to face, at some point, is going to be spectacular. The pendulum has been swinging too much on one direction for a while already.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 08:20 AM
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Your partner being open and happy to be cuckolded has to be a great advantadge of dating a male BPer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 08:13 AM
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She said he goes on MarriedTRP in the comments Then this dude should post his side of the story and I bet it's going to look very different from what we're reading here.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 08:03 AM
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Well because your experience is non-universal (plenty of men have no problems with the friendzone etc) and, more importantly, because TRP doesn't have a monopoly on solutions to these problems. Never claimed either of those. Just because you sucked with girls in freshman year doesn't mean you need to download this whole ideology to 'fix yourself'. I was in two different relationships from 17 to 23, with a period of being single in between and after. You can flirt without being a jerk, you can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 08:06 PM
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I know how hard it is to read books that are not in line with your world view. I don't like being lied to. That's what the Sex at Dawn book did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 07:51 PM
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All of the details on how this propagation occurs are socially determined. Who taught the female swallows to cuckold their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 11:09 AM
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First of all, have you read Sex at Dawn? I have, although I have to admit that after the first third, I started to just skim through because I was tired of the blatant lies. "Cuckolding is the top fantasy for married men". Not even an attempt to cherry pick data or anything, just that statement, linked with what the godly tribe of the Acheduyum'run, composed of 33 members, in the middle of the jungle in some random island in the middle of nowhere, proves that men, including the author, love to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 11:05 AM
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How many sports did you play? Anything from 5 year old soccer to letter athlete in highschool. I played soccer for 8 years (competitions, etc.). I also played volleyball in an all-girl team (so just training) and tried tennis, but it was awfully boring. Were you in boy scouts? No such thing from where I am, but if there were, I wouldn't have gone there. Can you drive a manual transmission car? Funny question for an European I guess. Yes, I can. Have you ever had to pop start a vehicle? Haven't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 07:58 AM
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you're essentially saying that feminism is in some way bad. I am saying it. The anti-masculinity message is damaging and it's nothing but an attempt to turn non-masculine men into even more submissive drones. It's like every pressuring message, the weaker will submit even more, the stronger, which are the minority, will rebel against it. The discriminatory laws, the squandering public money in stupid studies and organizations, the constant tone policing, all that is what feminism has been doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 07:12 AM
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The misogyny isn't internalized, it comes from RP, but women sure do feel it. Considering that the TRP community is fairly young (six years maybe?) and the concept of red pill and unplugging may not be more than 15 years old, I'm fairly positive you're wrong. Partner fidelity has been important for men since the dawn of time. "Mommy's baby, daddy's baby". However, if a man can't really be picky, he has to end accepting whatever comes, but that's the price of his own lack of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 07:00 AM
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If I pull your mask off, would you die?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 07:37 PM
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We also don't have the same hangups as some men do in regards to performance. When I go to the dentist, I just lay there and let the dentist do the work. I don't have any hangups as her when it comes to my performance, but I judge hers. I think she has some pressure about it, as she's doing a lot of the work and if she messes up, it's going to be a problem for both. Sometimes I have to open my mouth a bit more than usualy and say "aaahhhh", while she puts her tools inside my mouth. That's the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 10:52 AM
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Nah, you decided to stalk my pics, but that's okay. I checked the post history, to see where else you posted, in example, /r/relationships. Well, that's your fault for having absurd expectations. I mean why? I was bullied violently for the way I looked. Thus far I see no violence here. Moreover, though I was bullied, I didn't whine about it or allow myself to be forever helpless. I fought back and didn't beg for sympathy. I'm also fighting back. I'm fighting against the stupid indoctrination and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 10:15 AM
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ITT there are bunch of men being histrionic and OP is blaming everybody but Hitler and Obama for his failures. This whole thing is drenched in soppy weakness. It's a bit cringy and kinda feminine, but certainly nothing for me to be bitter about ;). Fascinating post. I'm adding it to the OP because it basically sums up your attitude and of many on your "side". EDIT : I decided to stalk your post history. You said : I was a morbidly obese, depressed, victim of violent bullying. Even as after high …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 08:04 AM
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Does this tend to happen to you (or do you tend to observe this happening to others) on PPD? It's been happening in many different venues, online and offline. The mention that having received education by feminists has been damaging to my persona is met with very fierce resistance and trying to deny my experience is usually the way to attack me. Also, TRP has a fair bit of sexism and misogyny in it, and by being that way they might be turning off people's empathy and/or sympathy towards them. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 08:01 AM
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I hope it gave you that self-righteous rush you were looking for. The irony of you ending your post with that sentence after giving me a self-righteous speech. I came here asking BPers why exactly they avoid talking about the specific topic of why so many of them deny that a feminist upbringing can be damaging. Why would people want to deny my experience, make it nonexistant, even attack me for it. Barely no one answered to that specifically. As easy as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 07:35 AM
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it is pseudoscientific bunk. It's more than you guys have, isn't it? Is the social behaviour of chimpanzees "pseudoscientific bunk" too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 07:32 AM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 04:34 PM
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As it stands presently REDDIT is more like attending church than participating in any discussion of ideas. It's an issue with Reddit, not TRP specifically. The format is horrible for discussions. Threads disappear after a day and due to that, most people don't reply to posts that are more than a day old. Upvote/downvote for agree/disagree is unavoidable and, even if you don't care about internet points, getting downvoted all the time can make you feel like it's pointless to even try to argue. Ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 04:34 PM
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What honest intelligent person says this? Ignore GamerGhazi, FemNazis and SJWs. Who actually says that? My mother, to begin with. Not anymore, she's quite the anti-feminist now. Bit too late mom! Yeah, if you don't respect women you'll probably die alone. Respect meant = Don't disagree or ever criticize. It's exactly relevant. Racism, homophobia and TRPers are the same cut of different cloths. In the case of TRP it's directed at gender instead of a race or sexual orientation. How come there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 01:16 PM
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Where do I "erase your experiences?" Because unless you're telling me you grew up being told, 'women loved unmasculine guys who kissed their asses, put them on pedestals and that women absolutely did not care what they looked like so long as they were "nice guys"', I don't know wtf you're talking about. Not literally, but the niceguyism comes from somewhere, no? That's what I'm trying to explain and you say "bullshit" And you ask what I'm talking about? Lol, in the 60s it was still very much a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 01:01 PM
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In your story, young men were rejected, they got angry at women, they joined the TRP community. At what point did they learn the "nice guyism" that I'm talking about in my post? Where is that thing in your theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:53 PM
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Oh hey, nice to see you've been thinking about this enough to make a post about it! I'll just jump right in. Yep. I'll reply to your other one in the other thread later if I have time. Uh....come again? What exactly is "the genetic condition of the young boy"? 'Cause we certainly acknowledge young boys exist. Taiboworks was alluding at that the base of the TRP are "aspies" and "psychopaths", so that explains why so many young boys were misled without opposition by what I'm saying. No, I'm pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:52 PM
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First, because oftentimes, TRP makes claims about the messages they received that sound far-fetched and greatly exaggerated. Let them tell it, for their entire lives they were told women loved unmasculine guys who kissed their asses, put them on pedestals and that women absolutely did not care what they looked like so long as they were "nice guys". That's bullshit. So you come to a thread about me saying how I feel my experiences are usually erased and...erase my experiences. Second, while femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:14 PM
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trp says they're a forum of betas and incels. What? Which means they're not a cross section of men or a true indicator of men in general. With marriage becoming less popular, distractions more popular and more concerns about "men giving up", are you sure about that? Mind that most men are plugged in and are ok with that, even if it's not working for them. About your theory, how do "nice guys" with those flawed tactics come in? They randomly flourished out of nowhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:05 PM
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Children and teenagers fight back against anything that doesn't sound right to them. Not all of them. The fight, freeze or flee reactions to danger also apply (not literally) to imposed behaviours. You fight back as you said, you flee (you escape from home) or you freeze and you submit to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:00 PM
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What is 'feminist/pro-woman' doctrine? Women do everything good, men are useless and dangerous. Female students are the very best, male students are sweaty noisy little monsters. Obey and respect women or you'll die alone. Male sexuality is threatening. Things like this. I'm not exaggerating with the "Do this or that or you'll die alone". I don't know. Why are so many people racist or homophobic in 2015? I don't know, it's not related to this either. You dodged attempting to give an answer to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 11:58 AM
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How that statistic compares to the recent study on millenials having less sex? It wasn't divided by gender actually, which would be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 11:37 AM
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Not really. In order to make a positive change in our lives, eventually we are going to have to take some responsibilty for our own stupidity. That's what I said in my preface. Now it's my turn to try to change things, but : However, blaming society, feminism, or parents, what does that really accomplish? Is it going to fix our problems? Not really. Not mine, but if we realize how this can be quite damaging to young boys, we can prevent it from damaging people further the line. I agree with your…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 11:35 AM
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I think some guys are just predisposed to the "beta bucks" role. So why not try to be more honest with the young men about it instead of sugarcoating it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 11:31 AM
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I was talking about my own generation, but that's because : If they browse internet, they do it in our native language. They are plugged in. One of my best friends, who was in an abusive relationship for years, is still plugged in. His advice is ridiculous and it's based on wishful thinking, which is what I got a lot when growing up and it's useless. It's "feel-good" non-sense. A band-aid over an amputated arm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 11:30 AM
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I see this as obvious. It's not as if men don't have emotions or can't cry, or be compassionate, but we grow up in an environment that tells us these are weak qualities, or more specifically, are a hindrance to success in a lot of areas of life. That environment has a biological source. "Men don't cry" is not a social construct by itself. Testosterone makes it, physically, a lot more difficult to cry, therefore a man who cries "often" is a man without high testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:23 AM
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Nope. It seems like you're talking about romcoms, but looking to romcoms for dating advice is like looking to action movies for advice on resolving workplace disputes. The average guy has seen a very wide variety of viewpoints about dating and what's attractive by the time he's 25, including (gasp) some redpill tenets. Haven't we all heard from Nice Guystm that girls only go after assholes? That's redpill, and it's "common knowledge". If that only happens in romcoms and is not encouraged by peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 06:57 AM
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RP bases a lot of its theories on anecdotal evidence Millions of years of anecdotal evidence though, plus the behaviour of close and distant relatives. Perfect? No. More than anything non-RP will ever have? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 06:32 AM
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where is the data to support that the number is rapidly increasing? The growing popularity of related boards, forums, websites is a good indicator. The videogame industry being as big as it is and the playerbase still being mostly male (remove phone games and stuff and that "study" falls to pieces) also show something, even if it is that there are more distractions now. aspies and sociopaths (red pill's base) Is that some sort of insult or are you really implying this? If so, I'll go and say tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 06:27 AM
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if this is applicable to anyone, it's socially clueless men who were blind to what women were actually interested in. If those are rapidly increasing in number, wouldn't you think that something is not being done properly? If a young boy hears his mother talking (badly) about men, he switches on the TV to watch a sitcom and sees the "le nerdy nice guy man XD" getting the attractive woman by being...whatever he is, if he gets on the internet and reads how toxic masculinity is, how you shouldn't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 02:39 PM
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You having sex isn't the issue; it's your objection to other consenting adults doing it that makes you sex negative. I don't object to people doing it, I object to it being encouraged as the only way to "enjoy sex" and things like that or the classic "She's promiscuous because she likes sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 02:03 PM
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Everyone else is a bit more sex positive. Not Eastern Europe, not the Middle-Eastern, not a great part of Asia, not in Northern Africa (unaware of the rest), etc. So it's not an "English and American, puritan thing". I don't understand the "sex positive" thing either. I'm exclusively monogamous, does that mean I'm "sex negative" or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 11:12 AM
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Yeah, it's stupid of them to let themselves be recorded. So fucking what? All they did was trust someone, and you think because of that they should be punished by having their nudes plastered all over the internet? I have to agree with this argument and the similar ones. I think that having revenge porn laws is a good idea. It's something that was done in private, with trust in between and it's something very intimate. Posting it online, whatever the reason, is extremely lame and I think it shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 07:15 AM
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This will be a fun topic. One thing at the very beginning caught my interest : older children and young biological adults, that is, people approaching puberty and those whom have recently entered puberty (typically ages 8-15), have no traits that naturally inhibit adult male attraction -- furthermore, people of this age range have more sexual arousing eliciting traits than any other age group. I don't exactly agree with the last line of this premise. I think it's a fallacious conclusion to say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 07:09 AM
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INTP. I think in the past I've gotten INTJ. I've become less rigid with time, so this may be the reason why.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 10:27 AM
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Again, it's in the Red Queen book. The reason why I'm not trying to explain it using the material from there it's because it's quite complex, but I'll give it a try. Social and health conditions of the mother do affect the possibilities of having a boy or a girl in mammals. In some animals, the better fed the mother is, the more chances she'll give birth to male offsprings. When it comes to apes, it's the social condition that determines this. Higher social condition means higher chances of havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:57 PM
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I was asking rhetorical questions, but said this : a) What they need is to be considered humans instead of "people who are of no use to society", which is what tends to happen with homeless people, especially men. b) "Most feminists" sounds too much like "NAFALT". The key thing is, biological differences between the sexes tend to be erased or pushed to the side when it comes to certain ideologies. You can still find young impressionable people saying that the difference between sportsmen and spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:41 PM
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If only 1 in 17 men reproduced I never said this. I said : Because for every man that has reproduced, 2-3 women have(...)the ratio was 1-17 It's not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:33 PM
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The book "The Red Queen" attempts to explain a lot of the things you're asking, so while I know this is a lame answer, I'd recommend you to read it, because it's a fascinating journey. Said this : Maybe fewer males than females reproduced because the males died due to violent conflict with other males, but then suppose this were true, wouldn't this make producing and raising a son a bad evolutionary bet? Which males are more likely to survive a violent encounter? The strong confident ones. Which…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:30 PM
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Those are good points. So the red pill approach would be to see how this goes in our society : have much higher ratio of mental illnesses How does it go for men in this situation? How is it handled? Is there a good support network? If not, why? What does it say about men with mental illness that they are very likely to become homeless and/or criminals? very high/very low IQ So most geniuses are men, which would explain many things. Is this information available to the public or do we read ration…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 11:56 AM
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Um, it's well, well established that the idea of a "nuclear family" is a product exclusively of the west in the last 100 years or so. "Society" as such was definitively not "built" on it. Monogamy has been a pillar of societies for a few thousands of years now. It's present in most of the big religions since their inception. The term "nuclear family" is one that I don't know so well (English terminology), so I decided to check the wikipedia article : Merriam-Webster dates the term back to 1947,[…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 08:36 AM
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It strikes me that the red pill is more interested in asking these questions than answering them. Asking questions led to answers, it's not mutually exclusive. We can't analyze our ancestors in a lab like we can do with rats or observe them in their habitat like we do with apes, so we can just draw conclusions from what we know and what we observe in distant and close relatives. It's not perfect, but it's what we have. So what does that say about women's actual attraction to those "alphas," vers…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 07:55 AM
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Everything. If men have had, historically, a harder time reproducing, why is that? What are the factors that led this to happen? These are important questions and the answers to that, simplified, is an important foundation of the red pill. I personally don't see the red pill as exclusively a sexual strategy, but about getting rid of all the wishful thinking, the fantasies, the social conditioning, to understand better human behaviour at all levels. What is scientific, in your opinion, when it co…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 07:16 AM
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Ugly people aren't a minority. They are, so are attractive people. The majority are average (obviously). Do you find most people you see everyday attractive? Not finding someone attractive doesn't mean that they are ugly. What you just said corresponds with what that OKC blog thing said about women judging the vast majority of men as "ugly" even when they were average. Amazing dichotomy. Having sex outside relationships is normal and common. Depending the context. Having sex in relationships is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 07:11 AM
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Liking sex doesn't make someone unfaithful. Liking sex doesn't mean someone must be promiscuous either. EDIT : I missed like half of the words in the sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 07:08 AM
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Why would you think science supports it? Because for every man that has reproduced, 2-3 women have. That's, alone, something worth discussing. At some point the ratio was 1-17 according to some study recently, during first agriculture times maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 07:05 AM
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but I guess after enough tries even they must find someone. Sometimes it comes down to this. I've heard about this particular blogger (not directly, so I may be getting many details wrong), small one, who was quite the failure with women. He was talking about it in his blog. He got into PUA and stuff, but it was not working. One day he was somewhere private with a female acquaintance (there was nothing between her), he "accidentally" flashed his penis to her...and they had sex, because she got v…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 02:09 PM
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Then he starts talking about how his ex hurt him and that I can trust him. Have you considered the possibility that there's no ex? Why I was curious it's because when I hear your statement, is usually about men who don't "respect women" or things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 12:33 PM
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I'm not from the US either. I also know some guys who I can't believe have had a girlfriend. I'm curious. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 07:23 AM
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If you're attractive with a bad plan that keeps failing, you can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 04:38 PM
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I actually agree that girls are less clueless though. Higher social awareness and better education from puberty when it comes to some key aspects of relationships. A lot would change if young boys becoming men would be taught about the positive aspects of masculinity instead of being smacked with feminist-driven stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 04:37 PM
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Ok, I misread then, sorry. Still no attractive guy would settle for an ugly woman with kids. Yet it happens. Desperation is poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 04:33 PM
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Like, what are you gonna do? He can continue to show what kind of person you are, that after he spilled his guts out, you decided to poke him with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 04:31 PM
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For example femininity doesn't come very naturally to me. Yet you have a boyfriend. You're also not having sex with him (or so I seem to have read). lol , I don't know any ugly woman with an attractive husband. It's actually more common to see the opposite (ugly guy with hot girlfriend because he has money or an alpha personality or whatever) I meant attractive in the general sense, not just physical. I should have clarified that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 04:24 PM
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Let's imagine for a moment that I totally agree with you. As you can see, the focus of the lie is somewhere else. If, on top of that, you add that even unattractive women are going to be chased, you have someone being delusional...but with reality actually validating that delusion. when in the end no one would put up with all their bullshit. But they do. Indoctrinated weak males do. I was one of them, I put up with a lot of things because I thought that this is how it was supposed to be AND beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 04:12 PM
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They don't just attack feminism , they attack women. There are highly upvoted comments and threads that say that women are backward retards who crave abuse and shouldn't vote. I didn't mean red pillers in this particular case, but in general. Look at MRAs, how they are considered to be misogynistic when they almost exclusively only attack feminism and its ideas and actions, not women. I have friends who think that appearances don't matter and that men will love them for who they are. Where does …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 04:10 PM
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The main reason is that the lies are mostly about women's behaviour and preferences. Who spread these lies mostly? Women and those who enable this behaviour. Now, focusing that anger unto women in your life that don't actively spread this message is unfair and counterproductive, but emotions rarely follow a rational route. I think that, during the anger phase, it's important to be able to split the responsibilities and realize that it's in your hand to change this. Now, there's something quite i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 01:56 PM
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I got some very vague answers I feel you have gotten very specific answers in the past, but just in case, here comes again : Young men who have been told all their lives to follow a certain dating strategy become very angry when they realized that they have been lied, that they have been wasting their time and that they are now faced with the daunting task to turn their life around instead of just "be yourself and wait".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 09:09 AM
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Deep into the blue pill (feminism, etc.) since I was a teenager. I had my first relationship when I was emotionally a teenager with an older woman, staunch feminist type, which pulled me deeper into that pit. I was a monogamist (Still I am I'd say), but all my relationships were quite awful. The woman was the leader, there was an important lack of sex and affection from their side (especially public affection) and I had to hear 1000 excuses and rationalizations about it, but I believed all of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 08:55 AM
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I think the problem is that men are fed so much bullshit from Hollywood and think a pretty girl will/should like them for their "great personality". In reality attractive people tend to pair up with attractive people. Girls tend to be much less clueless about this stuff. So you replied to your own question? Many men are very bitter they were lied, that they were not warned about this, that their struggles with women were met with "Be patient, the right one will come", "what matters is inside", e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 08:29 AM
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Adding my own as a reply to this post, as it's about personal experiences and I'll write mine, because it helped me to sink very low and then get red pilled. I had a one year long relationship with a woman few years older than me (she was 31 then). Attractive physically, but chronically depressed (fucked up childhood), no ambition, very little self-control with money, no education, working just part time (but enough to survive). The relationship was very hard for both, needy people, very immatur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 08:01 PM
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Red Pill is strategy, PUA is tactics. While there's a similarity, I don't think they are on the same page. I'd say that TRP doesn't teach "game", it teaches you how to get it as naturally as possible, as humans are malleable and can improve (to a limit).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 08:12 AM
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In a similar thread, I wrote about my friend. Tall, fit, green eyes, low body fat, crazy as fuck mother that alienated my friend's father and prevented him from growing with a masculine role. He lost his virginity at 26 with a drunken 35 years old married woman on NYE. Also, to a point, me. All my past relationships started because the women made all the necessary steps. Many times I disregarded a woman coming hard on me because she was disrespecting herself with that behaviour. The cringe...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 07:53 AM
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Man, I like your posts, but unnecessary insulting doesn't help a debate forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 07:49 AM
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Thanks for the gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:44 AM
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I'll give it a try : Meet? ("Hey /u/DSToo this is my friend Thousands. Been in many places, done many things, met lots of people. know familially? (Mothers, Grandmothers, Aunts, Sisters, Cousins). Dozens, although I have to say that I didn't know many of those relatives that well. Besides my mother and one aunt, I know two of my cousins best. If I had to judge all women from one particular cousin, I'd be the world's worst misogynist! know as friends pre-puberty? Elementary school kids, etc. Quit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/15 05:29 AM
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So you see now how it connects to the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 08:27 AM
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Yes, that's the problem. "Educating men" is common, "educating women" is sexist. You explained the reasoning. But there are a lot of other more right wing media that are critical of feminist thought. They do exist. I didn't mean feminist thought, but rather, an article in a popular newspaper in USA or UK telling women to "grow up" and do certain things instead of certain others. You'll just not see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 08:13 AM
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Red Pill : The man is the active/dominant/strong part. Blue Pill : The woman is the active/dominant/strong part. Power struggles and imbalance are present in every single human (and animal) relationship. It permeates the interaction at conscious and subconscious levels. It's affected by external and internal factors and it's not fixated in time. It also depends on the invest from either side. Men's power is usually very obvious, women's is usually covert, that's why "there's no power struggle in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 08:04 AM
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Closeness, intimacy, etc. are emotional needs. Not getting them can put a serious, serious strain on someone's mental well being. That's why loneliness can be so devastating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 07:55 AM
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Yeah. How often can people "educate" women in media and not be called sexists?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 07:53 AM
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Maybe it's a semantics thing, but I don't equate "you go out of your way" to "changing yourself", but it depends what you consider changing. I didn't shift the point to food=sex, I used the comparison of doing something extra to make sure you can satisfy your needs. That's called responsibility, that was my point. So, to reiterate : I have a need for intimacy. I am not getting intimacy. I will do extra to be able to achieve this intimacy I need. This is not putting "pussy on a pedestal", but tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 08:06 PM
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that is and has always been the point Your original point was that trying to attract the best is "putting pussy on a pedestal".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 07:48 PM
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While food is at the top of the physical needs, sex (and all what it entails) is at the top of the emotional needs. While it's true that you will not literally die of sex starvation, it has other terrible effects on the mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 06:53 PM
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Being emotionally dead is only marginally better than being dead because there's room for improvement. Intimacy, validation, physical contact, all those are vital to the mental well-being of a person. Your lack of empathy is astounding, like, wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 06:13 PM
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no, i heard what he meant. But you didn't understand it. It has nothing to do with respect or manipulation, it's about being assertive. Your first and second post have nothing to do with what's in the OP. Humans, like all animals, have a tendency to try to grab as much as you can. This is then limited by boundaries : Legal, social, personal ones. If you let an entity (from a person to a country) get away with things without putting limits or punishment, they will keep going. You adore and respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 02:27 PM
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The very fact that you go out of your way to become better to attract women is a form of "putting the pussy on the pedestal". You call it this way, I call it "Taking responsibility over your own needs". Do we put food and water on a pedestal? Do we call out those who want to make sure they have a good nutrition? Actually some do, insecure and/or lazy people mostly. Female companionship gives me something that, while I've tried, I really can't get anywhere else, so I do my best to attract the bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 02:11 PM
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Ask yourself this : How often do you see "Real women" and similar posts, pictures or comments anywhere? How often does anything that involves judging women's behaviour is met with heavy criticism and "That's sexist/misogynistic" and similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 07:49 AM
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This social expectation keeps people frustrated and unhappy, so why do we allow it? Social expectation, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 07:37 AM
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You say : Do not presume to tell me what to do with my thriving, happy marriage that is a result of mutual trust, cooperation, love, and support. I will give my wife all the respect I can because she does the same for me. You are perpetuating rumors and lies in the same way as racist old ladies. You insist that your anecdotal evidence means that it is true of all women and that your experience is the experience of all men. Now read this : When you treat a bitch like a lady instead of the bitch s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 07:31 AM
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I know you didn't, mods did as the thread is now tagged as Question for Blue, but I can't really see why it should exclusively be that. Did you get to read TheGreasyPole's answer? It was really good, especially one part (the one I was replying to).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 01:34 PM
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If you approach a woman to flirt with her and she finds your SMV to be beneath hers, she'll probably take it as an insult. This explains many of the harsh rejections that you'll see. It probably also explains the overuse of the word "creepy". A man attempting to hit on a woman that is, or considers herself, of much higher SMV.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/15 12:35 PM
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About the fat Italian dude story : "My lucky day! They're probably drunk, being goofy and might not have noticed my call," I thought to myself. Maybe I'm from a different world, but I just can't see how it's reasonable to have your girlfriend spend one on one time alone with a different dude, especially with alcohol involved. I just read too often, in certain subs, how this is "normal", but I just can't see it.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/15 07:19 PM
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That after years of rejection, success, and/or failure, both men and women come to understand what works and doesn't work in relationships. Does this really happen though? I feel that most people repeat their own life cycles over and over. The wheel never stops and people usually fail to take responsibility over their own failures and change what could turn their lives to better. I'm not denying that experience is obviously a great teacher, but I don't agree with the notion that men and women "c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/15 11:16 AM
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If you like that kind of thing, I recommend you reading about Gestalt therapy, as it's based on the here and the now. The way you interact with the therapist is a representation on how you interact with the world and from that, you can see yourself from a different angle, have your beliefs challenged, etc.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/15 01:08 PM
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It's some sort of form of psychological projection. As you say, many people here (me included) are former betas, blue pillers, white knights and we hate that, so we project that hate on those who are like that or are in that certain stage.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/15 10:50 AM
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We're not disagreeing though. He's thinking how to fix the situation because he believes that, if he's alone, he'll never find anyone else. He's really clinging to a sinking ship. He has lost all power in this relationship anyways, especially if each time that he shows a winning hand (divorce), he backpedals.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/15 04:58 PM
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Your post is ironic from the beginning to the end. This is a debate forum, stating that someone is uninformed, that their book is ridiculous, that is missing facts and that you disagree 100%, is useless. State why you disagree, why you think it's ridiculous, why you think that person is uninformed. Otherwise you come across the person you're saying is uninformed or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 08:52 AM
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Why is the blue pill sub allowed to directly link to the TRP sub then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 08:42 AM
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There's a second update, but the text has been deleted. You can read the comments here. I know exactly what's going on in his mind. He's so desperate for all that validation and intimacy, that he prefers to cling on something so miserable and destructive rather than be "alone", which would be infinitely better. This is the kind of guy who'd benefit from swallowing the red pill the most. He's a total mess emotionally, he needs to put all the focus on himself and rethink his life, because he's bei…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/15 08:31 AM
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Maybe I'm being nitpicky and I'm aware that my definition of friend is quite strict, but if you have "tons of friends", I'd say you have a lot less than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 08:17 PM
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I like them, been playing since I'm a kid, but I also know that I've used them as an escape during some periods of my life. The game I've been playing for a while now, EVE Online, gives me adrenaline rushes that nothing else comes close to give me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 08:14 PM
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But you can see the fitness level of the woman in her ass as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 02:17 PM
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That's usually too big for my taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 02:17 PM
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Not me. Breast size doesn't say much to me, as it's largely genetic. Ass, in the other hand, can give you a lot of information about the woman. Thin is where it is at for me in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 02:08 PM
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I was going to say this. Russia Today is awful and they even say this : Two Latino men were allegedly arrested for manspreading, sitting with knees wide open, thus occupying two seats on May 22 at 12:11am, according to a report released by the Police Reform Organizing Project in New York. This is probably the first time manspreading has led to an arrest and court appearance. Allegedly arrested. They are covering their backs when someone shows they are wrong.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/15 01:27 PM
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I hope you're more in touch with your sexuality now. It's not where it should be. Getting drilled that being a man is a bad thing from young and then getting into such relationship left me in a very distant place, still trying to turn around all those beliefs. Yeah, I like what I've done with BDSM so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 03:31 PM
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I'm not uncomfortable talking about sex in general, but with some people it gets awkward fast. Straight, but attractive men catch my eye like attractive women. Nothing more, but I don't have a problem with that. My first relationship came too early, I was not emotionally or mentally prepared for it. She was, emotionally, much older than me. She had all the control and, while it was comfortable at some point, that relationship did more damage than anything. So I was disempowered in a way. I'm ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 02:49 PM
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More like Bio Woof.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 02:36 PM
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Then I may have the perfect man for her, but sadly, he's blonde.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 02:33 PM
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Aché foragers They lack serious threats, that's why they have been able to survive for so long in their current technological and societal progress state. I don't think they are the best example. They were used quite often as example in Sex at Dawn, ignoring the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:14 AM
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Taller than me and older than me. Not blonde. Witty and intelligent with a sense of humor. Decisive and trustworthy, with an air of danger just to keep me on my toes. And he has to smell good. That's a male unicorn? Where you live that this kind of man is so rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 07:08 AM
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A few different factors : I do believe in AWALT as a motivational approach. Contrary to what I learned as a teenager, men and women do have different approaches to many aspects of life, sexuality and communication being the most important when it comes to relationships. Keep yourself at your best, remember that masculinity is pretty much always attractive, etc. Has she started to avoid sex? Instead of panic, whine about it, communicate, you try to look at it from a different angle. Have you let …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 06:54 AM
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Male, 29, more red than purple, exclusively into LTR, I still think that red pill is the best for LTRs (with a tiny bit of blue pill). I have contact with lots of 35+ years old women, so I've seen the best and the worst of "post-wall" women. AMA!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 05:29 PM
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Christina Hoff Sommers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 05:26 PM
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RP cannot grasp the concept of women just enjoying sex, no strings attached. I can grasp it, I even said it. does not mean that promiscuous people have a mental disorder. Never said that. They like to have fun and have sex. What is wrong about that, who knows. You understand that you can like to have fun and have sex without being promiscuous, right? You're not the first nor the last to equate those two, when they don't have to go hand by hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 05:19 PM
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I'm talking about before those times even, before what we can call "modern society". Why not kill those women instead of raping them? There has to be a sexual component there, not just a display of power. There was a documentary about Indonesian Death Squads and they were raping teenagers and, if I remember correctly, there was a strong sense of sexual content on it. A member of a viking raiding party has very little in common with a guy who has drunk sex with a girl at a party. So if a guy has …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:39 AM
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Well, some other poster in a different thread just said that TRP encourages murder in order to get "our dicks wet", so why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:34 AM
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The last bit is a concept RedPillers cannot grasp. Nor can you, it seems, as you're equating enjoying sex (which the vast majority of people do) to promiscuity, which is a fallacy that has been used to defend female promiscuity for years now. You can enjoy sex and avoid having it with strangers. This is a concept that many people can't grasp. It's actually my personal case even. I have no interest in casual sex, so I have a low partner count because all my past sexual experiences have been in re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:32 AM
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Rape is not about sex - rape is about POWER. I've never understood this notion unless we go for the connection that sex is power (it is after all), but then rape would still be about sex. Rape has been a valid (as in, it has worked and it works) way of spreading your genes for millions of years in many different species, not just humans. In that case, it is about sex, about procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:14 AM
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Was the influence of BP that strong that you couldn't recognize that women, just like all humans, can be coldhearted and calculating? Yes. My mother was "perfect" (to this day, she's never admitted making any mistakes whatsoever) and my father was "useless" (because working whole day and then not washing the dishes makes you useless), so I went into life looking at life from this lens and found plenty of people (strong womyn and beta orbiters) who'd confirm it. I'm still struggling to unplug fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 07:52 AM
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I still don't understand your view. Aren't the only people pulling out those who couldn't were unsuccessful in getting sex? If they are involuntarily celibate, then their lack of involvement shouldn't make a big difference on the average number of sexual partners, because their average was slim to none any ways. I think that the issue is that many men who could, potentially, have an active sexual life (relationship or casual) are not entering the market because they have (non-sexual) alternative…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 07:18 AM
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If they just loved pussy, most of them would go to prostitutes. They want, like basically everyone, the intimacy, validation and physical pleasure that comes from sex. With a prostitute, you're just getting one of those. "Nice guys" are the product of the belief system that you are using, that "loving pussy" is actually a negative thing (and many other things). It's always funny to see that those who hate on the nice guys the most are the ones who are pushing the belief system that creates them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 06:45 AM
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You claim that boys are no longer raised not to cry but certainly high school guys may cry and get little sympathy, perhaps even being bullied. This is in contrast with high school girls who generally get comforted. Because we see the cause-consequence from opposite directions. I think that boys who cry get bullied because it's a display of weakness that is not accepted, biologically, in men. You can't fight for life if you can't defend yourself and cry when attacked. You see it the other way ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 01:49 PM
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They are not worshipping her pussy, but her brains and her courage. Karen has given an amazing boost in popularity, credibility and quality to men's issues. Obviously she's not perfect, but damn if she doesn't deserve a lot of praise for what she's done.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 10:04 AM
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1) I disagree here. I think the differences start being biological and they are bigger than the cultural ones. Testosterone levels alone makes a huge difference in the behaviour of people. Are boys raised to not cry? I think this is a lie, especially nowadays. Testosterone makes it harder to cry, stoicism is a very valued trait in men (collapsing when there was a crisis in the cave times was not very useful), etc. Feminism, SJWing and TBP by extension, like to play with the Tabula Rasa approach,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 09:19 AM
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What kind of discussion can the OP originate when it's a passive-aggressive "sarcastic" drivel? At least the OP could try to explain what's wrong with that ROK post besides being click-baity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 07:34 AM
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IF that was all TRP was sayign no one would have an issue with it and it would be just another sub like /r/loseit or /r/DeadBedrooms or /r/seduction Would it? Because I feel that even if TRP was very politically correct, the content enough would already make the "they hate the womenz" lies start. Isn't the Men's Rights sub considered a "hub of misogyny" in many circles, even in some main stream media ones? They are quite correct for the most part, but they are committing one of the two fatal sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 07:28 AM
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Thanks for the explanation, I was wrong then, but I still don't get why you can't empathize more though, especially if you've been there, like knowing that it can be very frustrating and difficult to get out. If those guys aren't getting laid its for a damn good reason. they have a lot of work ahead of them. and no it not because women fuck alphas and wont touch betas, it because they have some issues to get over. That first line actually contradicts the second though. They are "betas" because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 09:42 AM
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Not the person you replying to and I see 80/20 as attraction rule that only ends in "20% have sex with the 80%" working in certain environments, like maybe American college. Well for one the people making the claim are unreliable and biased Well, like basically everyone then. Don't see this as an argument. two there is no research supporting it There's the genoma study citing that around 25-30% of men reproduced vs 75-80% of women. That's very close to 80/20 and it has been happening for million…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 08:48 AM
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I know one. Quite tall and fit, green eyes, etc. He lost his virginity at 26 with a drunk 35 years old married woman on New Year's Eve, that should tell you a lot already. His mother is a crazy psycho who made life very difficult for her husband (he left) and her sons (him and his older brother). He'd basically be super passive with women and creep them out with some of his behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 08:15 AM
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Only if the submission came from overpowering, not from own will. If a woman is voluntarily submissive, but regains the possibility of walking away if she doesn't feel good in that relationship, she can't be taken advantage of. If a woman submits either because she's coerced or because she does it out of fear (not fear of the man, but fear of loneliness, poverty, etc.) then she's in a position of neediness and weakness, not strength and she will suffer for that. The BDSM dom/sub relationships ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 02:41 PM
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I care more about my dinner for tonight(not sure what to cook yet) than I care about all the starving, raped or killed children in the world. You're using a fallacious argument, I forgot the name of it, which implies that we can't care about a problem because there's something worse happening somewhere else. You're using another fallacious argument, which is implying that only women suffer at the hands of men, and not men at the hands of women, women at the hands of women and men at the hands of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 11:50 AM
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When I realized every advice and belief ever imposed on me was basically a lie, my world felt empty. It was empty. I had to build a whole new existence from scratch. I'm at that point. When I ask myself "what do I want?" I struggle to come up with answer. "What do I need?" and I feel I'm suppressing all my needs, as that's easier than the expectation-disappointment game. Maybe I need to find a fallen tree myself and get rid, even if temporary, from all the distractions that make things more diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 07:39 AM
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Men and women from every single background (race, religion, age, political inclination, whatever) blame society for their problems. It's a easy way out. But since we're on topic, read the main answers to see why some men do so. I don't "blame society" myself, but I'm very bitter at many things I heard when growing up, especially when it comes to happiness and relationships with women. Being a "productive member of society", starting a "family", all those are benchmarks for happiness supposedly. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/15 07:35 AM
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Thanks a lot!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 10:01 AM
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Yeah, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 06:12 PM
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The problem I have with the flair is that if I pick, in example, Purple, but I want to write something that contains the word "red" it automatically turns to red, but if I type "blue" it doesn't turn into blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/15 12:12 PM
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I haven't talked about myself during the entire conversation. This is an observation, among many others I have, from posting mostly in the English-based area of the internet (where most fun things happen). I don't need to be personally involved in something to be able to observe and discuss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 08:27 AM
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The problem arises when people view others as objects to be manipulated. People manipulate each other constantly. You need to ask a favour from Bob, with whom you haven't spoken much during the last months, so first you engage in a polite conversation, ask how he's doing, have a few laughs, then you ask for the favour. We do this without realizing, it's just in our arsenal. So if TRP was talking about this, it'd be "grossly manipulative", engaging in fake conversation in order to soften the rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 08:16 AM
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I think we're arguing about different things. 1) What is inherently creepy (very vague word) about finding post-pubescent pretty women attractive? I'm not saying hitting on them, asking them out, dating them, I'm not even including that. 2) Why finding it creepy, a totally subjective thing, justifies shaming? 3) Why do some men engage in such shaming as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 08:00 AM
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It was an example of how a 22 years old can be considered "fresh out of teens" and the double standard in that subreddit. The main one was about finding them attractive : The ' shaming' as you call it has to do with a gap in maturity and experience and power balances in a relationship. No 20 yr old has much of that figured out, most barely have a job and have little experience even living on their own. Maleor female, doesn't matter. And this has nothing to do with it. Said this, maturity and exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 12:20 PM
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Is that a solipsistic approach I hear so much about? "That's how it was for me, now it's our memory and how it really is". How exactly that justifies shaming men who find pretty 16-18 years old attractive? Again, it doesn't mean dating them or anything, just finding them attractive. EDIT : After thinking about it, I still feel that personal anecdotes becoming "our" is not the best way to discuss a topic, but that doesn't mean that it can't hold a good amount of truthness in it. But then, how doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 11:30 AM
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May-December Heh, I had never heard about this term before. Good one to learn. I agree with your post anyways, there's certainly room for abuse due to many factors, but the automatic demonization of men for finding young women attractive (not even dating them) annoys me as well. You can, again, find that in that subreddit (It's my guilty pleasure). 32m-22f is "He can't find a woman of his age, controlling, bla bla bla". 22m-32f? No mention of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 09:08 AM
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tall, leggy 18 year old blonde you mention to people considered "not conventionally attractive." I don't know how related this is to the topic, but I have found, from my experience in many American-centric boards, how finding 18 (and 16 and 17) years old is "borderline pedophilia", creepy, etc. What's up with that? I can't find a 16 years old pretty girl...attractive? That doesn't mean I'm going to act on it or anything, but just wondering. That's without even going too deep how terribly misused…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/15 08:58 AM
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That's the result of passive/absent father + dominant/controlling mother + messages young men get from outside that support the narrative learned at home. You know when people say "TRP tactics only work on damaged women"? That's basically what I heard growing up. Being masculine only works on damaged and shattered women. Nice women want nice men. You know the rest. As /u/beer77 says, it's annoying to hear how this is "obvious". It is now, but after being lied all your life...it really sucks to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 10:26 AM
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I think it's quite real and growing, otherwise I believe we wouldn't be getting these shaming articles. But when I look around at everyday life, the anecdotes don't seem to add up and I don't see many men failing out of life like this story would have us believe. Are you sure they are not falling out of life? It can be like depression, very hard to spot unless you really know what's going on with their lives. Men would hardly talk about it in public, not even with some close friends. I am someho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 10:14 AM
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