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Esther Parel is a couples therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:09 AM
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that is a smart move and I appreciate it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:39 AM
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all you downvoters need some love in your life or need to get over your ex stat
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:08 AM
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they do say pick less men. that’s why body count is even mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:37 AM
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ick is a meme man, the lists are satire. gen z is jokes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:36 AM
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or, which is the case you may be referring to, are better looking so they develop a higher pickiness. but that same pickiness for attractiveness tends to be similar for better looking men. and even doubly so for women who grow up with wealth or men who acquire it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:24 AM
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but avoidant girls tend to be the ones who have been hurt the most because they work to counter or push away their vulnerable sides and emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:22 AM
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men typically are more avoidant (to avoid getting hurt and revealing vulnerability) and women more anxious (because they are conditioned to need more validation reassurance and attention)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:21 AM
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Use Muzz or Salams and go for marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:18 AM
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Once you’ve been in love and been loved you’ll get it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:17 AM
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Do rich people have to take responsibility for all rich people? Or black people all black people? Or christians all christians? Do you take responsibility for all men and all of their actions historically and presently all over the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:16 AM
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I think the ick is fear of intimacy coming from avoidant attachment styles. anxiously attached women rarely get the ick. in fact they might even overlook red flags if they catch the feels hard enough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:12 AM
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when you’ve been in love, you’ll know why its worth it. you learn things. you grow. you figure out who you are in relation to another human. thats why we invest time and money in dating. to find love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:10 AM
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Women and men are not a monolith. Sex isn’t a commodity that is bought and sold in the free market unless you’re participating in prostitution or paid pornography. Misandry develops in response to violence against women. Misogyny develops in response to economic and social devaluation and objectification of women. TRP was created to sell at best products like PUA manuals and snake oil supplements, and at worst to sell fascism and radical right wing political action. Stop perpetuating gender wars…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:30 AM
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72 in heaven for anyone willing to make the effort 🤷🏽‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:24 PM
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Those divorce rate stats are incredibly reassuring! I just looked it up for my country and it's absolutely on the decline. I don't know why I keep hearing that divorce is on the rise and that we should all be scared our potential marriages will end in divorce!
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 10:47 PM
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You're right -- I'm feeling frustrated and using this as an opportunity to sharpen talking points I think might come up. Which I understand this sub is not for. Won't happen again!
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 10:44 PM
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There is no movement or ideology about protecting the people of Ukraine Yes there is, it's called NATO. Also, nazi movements and apparatuses like the Azov Battalion. What's the point of a movement that is only interested in protecting certain types of people? Every movement in history has only ever sought to protect the rights of the people who make up the movement. For example, the civil rights movement was about Black people. This is because the movement is typically formed by that group, as a…
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 10:07 PM
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I think you might be missing the point. If an argument asserts that a social movement had a specific effect, and economic and political forces that predate that social movement prove that effect to have occurred hundreds of years prior, those economic and political forces are directly relevant to the argument. That is not "completely literal," it is just a recognition that the argument is based on a faulty understanding of history. And it's a good thing that you were a history major! You can def…
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 08:30 PM
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If the argument is that white western bourgeois feminist movements in the 19th century took women out of their homes and into the workplace, history that confirms that is not true isn't a deviation from the point. It's simply a fact-based refutation. But it might be perceived as such if a person doesn't care about facts, and is fixated on being right. Luckily, my boyfriend is into history (and especially world history) and wouldn't be caught dead denying it's relevance. Sounds like that's not yo…
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 07:46 PM
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Just a correction — you don’t need to be Muslim to know world history. In fact, I would bet good money that the vast majority of world historians who have studied women’s public participation throughout history are not Muslim. AND my argument was inclusive of poor white european women in the 6th and 7th centuries who would have participated in a feudal economy or would have been viking women participating in warfare.
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 06:03 PM
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I still don't understand because "women in the west" is a huge demographic. Like there is still female genital mutilation happening in the west, there's still sex trafficking of young girls happening in the west, there's still rape of disabled women and girls happening in the west. What's their recourse and solution if not advocacy?
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 03:59 PM
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I'm an immigrant, so is my boyfriend, and so is our entire community. The West includes immigrants and people who are non-european and non-wealthy. If they are criticizing bourgeois European feminism, great. But again, they would be better placed to say that and make those distinctions to avoid the exact conversation we are having to have right now.
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 03:52 PM
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If you want the draft, move to Israel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:35 PM
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My issue is that I have so much empathy for muslim women from my family and community back home (third world), and because of my work in nonprofits I have so much empathy for women in the west who experience poverty, disability, domestic/sexual violence, etc. So when I hear “feminism is all bad,” I think of these women I know and wonder what recourse they have if not building movements and advocating for their safety, survival, and protection. And the state of the world is so horrendous — it’s h…
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 06:46 AM
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I get that. I’m also from a part of the world where we do specify what is white western and what is not, and have worked with enough poor people to know that they specify what is rich people activities and what is not. I do think these creators would be much more intelligent and universally applicable if they specified that they are against bourgeois feminism, but it’s possible that their analysis doesn’t extend that far or that they assume their audience’s analysis doesn’t.
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 06:39 AM
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He is definitely out of the anger phase. From the way I’ve been feeling lately, I’m coming to realize that I might not be though.
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 05:25 AM
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That’s real — I am definitely interested in doing and being that. I just don’t want to constantly feel the need to take on the role of teacher or corrector because that feels maternal.
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 05:19 AM
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This is helpful. I have found the content to be so reductive because they’re railing against “feminism” so loosely without a diverse, a global, or a historical context. But I think if I can tell myself that these content creators are talking about white bourgeois feminism and not the beliefs and movements of muslim women from the third world or the disability justice movements (the “feminisms” I’m most familiar with), I can get over this and just be happy.
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 05:17 AM
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That’s possible, I also grew up with a looooot of conflict, and I hate it but it feels very normal. I want out of that frame, and I want to not find this content upsetting so that I can just enjoy my relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 05:11 AM
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I think it is realistic to assume that most marriages will end in divorce. And I think its fair to want to mitigate that. I’m less concerned about my financial safety in case of divorce because I’ve mitigated the risk. I AM concerned that I will lose respect for this man if I am actively contemptuous of the content he consumes and by extension, him. I’d rather not run — you’re absolutely right, I doubt I will find someone with this level of wealth/accomplishment and that is important to being a …
/r/RedPillWomen18/09/23 05:07 AM
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It is not -- those are the terms. Not necessarily favourable to me in the case of divorce, so I'll need to use the next years until I have kids that I have wealth that works for me, and I'll need to ensure that I don't end up divorced for any reason. What has changed in the last 19 days is that he says he just "had cold feet" and that he does want marriage. So we reconciled the relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 08:35 PM
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Prenup conversation has been resolved, thankfully. The wealth disparity I'm less concerned about because I come from a wealthy family, and have discussed with my parents that they'll set aside to take care of me no matter what. And I've retooled my existing income (~120K this year) so that I can generate some passive income by end of Q2 next year.
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 08:16 PM
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Yah, like I said, I am contemptuous of a significant number of red pill creators and their followers due to their assertions being largely ahistorical and reductive. And that contempt has come from many many hours consuming F&F, whatever, Pearl Davis, Kevin Samuels, and a gamut of other creators, and distilling the talking points that are counter to established science and/or history. But I'm not necessarily convinced that my ideas are immutable or infallible. I am, however, certainly convinced …
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 08:14 PM
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So, none of it is theoretical -- it's fact. I would much prefer it be theoretical that, for example, over a million girl children in India are in sexual slavery, but unfortunately, that's a dream world we do not live in. The same goes for the history of women's labour, the existence of populations that practise polygamy, and the experience of disability and sexual violence. If you want to learn about these parts of the world and its history, you can google it. If not, you will remain uneducated …
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 07:33 PM
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My sense is that he believes some portion of it. The myths above he certainly believes, but the ideas like avoiding marriage, playing dread game, and more toxic stuff I am certain he does not. I actually love that Aristotle quote, and that's why I took a deep dive into RP content myself because I wanted to better understand what RP was about. It's now only after having consumed so much that I've been able to really distil all of the core talking points that are incorrect.
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 07:27 PM
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That's a great question. In the grand scheme of things, this man is super high value. He's wealthy, attractive, loves me, loves kids and will be a great father, my family will love him, he's in my community, we share the same religion -- the list goes on in terms of our compatibilities. I'm not saying he's perfect -- he doesn't have a lot of time for me and as an anxious attacher, I miss him all the time and want a ton of attention when he simply doesn't have the bandwidth for that. But he makes…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 07:21 PM
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I appreciate this a lot. And to be fair, my contempt is not towards him specifically -- it's towards the content creators and their followers. I just did some reading on the Gottman page and it looks like there are some ways to guard against contempt to ensure things don't end up in a bad way. I *do* respect this man, and I *do* want a relationship where I can be submissive and not have to run the show. My previous serious relationships required me to be in charge and I was resentful, disrespect…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 07:16 PM
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I was thinking that one way around this would be to ask that he don't watch or listen to this content around me because I don't like it. I think he would do that, and I think he would end up consuming it less overall as a result.
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 07:12 PM
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A lot of muslim guys are really into him. I’ve now met 3.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/23 12:14 PM
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I appreciate and respect that advice. I think because I make over 100K (and honestly don’t work super hard for it 😬) its hard for me to imagine being with someone who hasn’t figure out how to do the same or greater. But you’re right, money is not everything, and the true measure of a man isn’t his income.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 06:12 PM
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He took an “us against the problem” approach that I deeply respected. And whenever he was angry he took space before engaging in discussion about the issue because he believed he should never speak in anger. I loved that, and absolutely want someone like that as a husband. Faith can be taken or left, really. Most important to me is investment in our shared culture and in attending the relevant functions in the community that would keep us and our kids grounded in a strong network and in our shar…
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 06:05 PM
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This was exactly what I did — talked to him about SMV and what compensation I should get for staying home. And he didn’t care, and the clauses he brought forth were incredibly unreasonable. I didn’t even need a lawyer to review it because even as a layperson I could see I was getting the short end of the stick.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 06:02 PM
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You’re right. And I didn’t state that his TRP beliefs were why I broke up with him (because I was concerned that might actually validate his viewpoints about women). But I think he knows.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 05:59 PM
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I saw a lot — he was good at conflict, he had faith, and he was deeply involved in his family. All of those things were green flags. But in the end, the red flags (the extent of which I have not yet shared!) outweighed.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 05:58 PM
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Most of religion is culture, as I’m sure you’re well aware. And most people want their culture to pass on to their offspring, especially given the toxic input of public school and social media.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 05:56 PM
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You’re right— I shouldn’t have to compete. He should be a strong enough and competent enough leader that he should ensure we both win. But he wasn’t and he couldn’t.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 05:55 PM
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He disagreed with the stipend.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 05:53 PM
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That’s only if the woman is healthy. If she develops a terminal illness (which my mother had — and I am genetically predisposed to) men are 6x more likely to leave her. Men also cheat 2x more. And have rates of substance abuse 5x more. And rates of suicide 3x more. All of those things end a marriage, even if they dont serve the paperwork. And this isnt ideology, it’s just statistics.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 05:52 PM
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I think I absolutely mistook took those traits for strength, good leadership, and competence. And to his credit, he is highly successful in his businesses and has been able to build equity and wealth for himself outside of the typical 9-5. This is something I aspire to myself, so I found his entrepreneurial success to be incredibly inspiring. And that inspiration worked. Being around someone successful and motivated helped me to feel motivated to rebrand my consultancy and engage in thought lead…
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 05:47 PM
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To be honest, because he might have left me when I’m not young and pretty anymore. He talked so much about how he valued me for my youth and beauty — those things are time bound. I wont always be young and I wont always be pretty. In fact, pregnancy and aging are decidedly not pretty things. And given what he values, it would have made a lot of sense that his eyes (and hands) would wander once my value to him was gone. And I think evolution is all about competition — we compete with our siblings…
/r/ExRedPill31/08/23 12:35 PM
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I kinda wish it was
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 12:54 AM
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I didn’t know he was red pill until probably two months ago. 😔
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 12:52 AM
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He wouldn’t budge on any clause that gave me anything. Essentially his agreement was, regardless of who leaves, I wont have a home or any support. And I agreed to sign it, because I figured I could squirrel away some money now before I have kids and ask my parents to lend me money in case he leaves me when I’m not young and pretty anymore But he did a 180 and decided he didn’t want to get married regardless, so I think I dodged a bullet.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 12:48 AM
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I read a study that said that women who fall for the dark triad traits typically have lower self esteem, exhibit thrill seeking behaviour, and have survived abuse. I hit all three boxes. I think thats why I fell so hard and so fast for him. I’ve never been so intoxicated by someone before. I even found him far more attractive than previous boyfriends despite him being much less attractive objectively. But I’ve been thinking about this all day, and specifically, how do I avoid this situation agai…
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 12:43 AM
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For more context: He believes that marriage is fundamentally unfair to men and that divorce is a way for women to steal men’s hard earned assets. He has asked me to sign a pre-nup where in case of divorce I would get nothing. This frightens me because statistically men cheat 2x more than women, and if a woman develops a terminal illness men are six times more likely to leave her. I really love this man and see good in him, but I am very very scared by these things. What do you folks think? Am I …
/r/ExRedPill28/08/23 10:47 PM
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She’s literally the reason I became an RPW 🤩🤣
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/23 01:29 AM
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Shera Seven on YouTube or TikTok
/r/RedPillWomen19/05/23 01:06 AM
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