QuittingAlive Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
0	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed.	Debate	QuittingAlive	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 07:35 PM

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3	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" Dude. You still haven't understood my first comment. I asked why you don't bring up being infertile. You say you have, I say no you brought up BECOMING infertile not BEING infertile. You say "I would adopt." ??? Again, I asked: why don't you TALK about this? You say: I would adopt. You see how it doesn't make sense? My second question was then about how you would address the issue. But my first, please think, was why you don't bring it up. Not what you would do. But my main question was WHY DO Y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 02:21 PM
5	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" You misunderstand. I'm not talking about that you might have two kids and then BECOMING infertile, which you mention. You do not address BEING infertile. I am talking about you BEING totally infertile. Like right now. Not being able to have a single kid. Not knowing before a relationship that your sperm does not and never will work. As you said, Read, please. But regardless, you did answer my question that you would adopt/surrogate, though this does add even more modifiers to a relationship that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 01:27 PM
5	Debate : People (both men and women) strawman men family planning as "believing everything will go the way they want" I wanna ask something. This is off topic from your original question, but I have seen you bring up in multiple comments that you understand that she may only be able to have two kids rather than the three you want, and you would be understanding of that. And I'm just curious, but you haven't mentioned the possibility of you yourself being infertile or genetically incompatible with this potential woman and being unable to conceive without causing a miscarriage. Have you considered this possibilit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 01:10 PM
5	Fair feminists exist and they get hate from both men and many feminist women Yes, and I think everyone has a different definition of feminist. I have had very many conversations (referring to irl in my case, e.g. coworkers, family, in-laws, friends) with men who have been surprised or even angry when the topic of feminism comes up and I say I'm a feminist. I will ask them what they think feminism is, and responses vary. Most commonly they say it's about hating men. Some say that it used to be good, but new wave feminism is all "femi-nazis." Some say it's about getting eq…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 12:20 PM
5	Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight. I disagree with you on this, though I can understand your logic. But someone can want a man's status, approval, admire them, have loyalty, emotional intimacy, and admire their looks or physique without it being romantic. Familial relationships would be a big example that is not romantic. Sons looking up to their fathers, wanting to emulate them, wanting their approval, wanting to be big and strong and tall like them. Same with brotherly bonds. Many men call the men they have close bonds with as …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:24 AM
4	Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight. Yes, but I think you may have misunderstood. Part of my point was that red pilled people see ANY deep connection with other people is seen as weak, whether it's men or women. I agree with you*, humans need connection, we are a social species, and I think this is a flaw of the red pill mindset. But these guys will instead get angry at women for why they feel lonely, rather than acknowledging that loneliness is a natural consequence to their way of life of not connecting to any people. These men w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:12 AM
7	Men and women fail to take accountability fairly equally I highly disagree. It is a shallow and common sentiment for women to "settle" with less attractive men because "he treats you right". Even if it's another case of love bombing. Being out of a woman's league isn't really a factor if he makes her feel good. "Love is blind" you know? I don't know what you mean about accurately rating themselves would get rid of dating problems, especially the ones I refer to. Like, if a woman is 7/10 looks, 7/10 income, 7/10 personality, 7/10 intelligence, and gets…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 11:00 AM
5	Most of the Red Pill Men would be happier and more successful dating other Red Pill Men and hiring sex workers than trying to find a new mommy they can use as a flashlight. I slightly disagree, though it may be because I misunderstand the red pill mindset. Red pill men think being emotional, vulnerable, and connecting to others is bad and unmasculine. They don't want romantic relationships, especially with women. Most of them seem to think even brotherhood and connection with men is useless or weakens them somehow, unless they benefit from promotions or gaining favours. They want access to sex with women and they want the status that comes with being able to claim …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 10:41 AM
9	Men and women fail to take accountability fairly equally People should take accountability in repeatedly choosing bad partners by examining their ideas of how dating should look and what the experience is like for them, yes, but it is not as simple as them choosing a bad person alone. Bad partnerships almost never start bad. Women won't stick with a man who punches them in the face on the first date. But, these abusive people will "love bomb" a new potential partner. Then they start to change once the person falls in love with this fake idea of who th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 09:39 AM
4	Women will never be stuck alone. Disclaimer: I agree with you, and I am not trying to defend their point of view. Dudes like this have the view that attractive, desirable, "high value" men actually perpetrate abuse at a higher rate than "low tier" men, and the reason for your example is that ugly men are more likely to be called out and persecuted for their bad bahaviour and crimes. But they can't ever provide proof for this idea, as the very fact that hot men aren't on these lists is why. The lack of proof is their evidence. I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 05:45 AM
7	Women will never be stuck alone. And straight men. The term "hobosexual" is often used in regards to men relying on women to keep them housed and fed. This is also not even talking about those men who are "NEET" and live with their mothers. I guess it doesn't count as relying on women if it's a familial relationship rather than sexual?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 05:38 AM
6	Women will never be stuck alone. There is a whole group of people who are called "hobosexual". I will say, it most often refers to men who aren't working, staying home, and being provided for (in exchange for home making, child rearing, budget tracking, and many other tasks) as this is seen as being the traditional role for women, so it's not commented on as unusual when women do it. But there are very many dudes who are supported by women while they work on their studies, or are down on their luck, or trying to switch careers.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 05:35 AM
–	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed. I understand, but this subreddit does specifically say that discussions here are directly about theredpill and thebluepill subreddits.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 04:54 AM
1	Why do women treat their male friends so differently? What is the issue then? It seems to me the issue is that women treat you differently, it upsets you, you want to know why, and rather than accepting the reason, you are still mad that women can't just treat you the way you want to be treated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 04:51 AM
1	Why do women treat their male friends so differently? You keep asking why. You're trying to make sense of this, I get it. The problem is, there is no logical answer. And even of there was, nobody could tell you the answer for every single person. Humans are not factual creatures governed by a universal set of rules or limitations. I don't know. You're making this about gender, but really this problem is truly about FEELINGS. The feelings of people which make their treatment of others vary. And feelings are caused by chemical reactions/hormones, not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 04:46 AM
–	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed. Oh. Good to know. The red pill sub is just all posts about feminists being the kkk for men and like, women are subhuman creatures who only have sex with millionaires? And red pill Podcasters tend to talk about looksmaxxing (but then like every woman tells them they look terrible and actually they prefer chubby guys or feminine men) and working out and that you have to order women around in a relationship. Then like, they approach women on streams and get rejected over and over and go back home t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 09:44 AM
1	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed. Interesting. Many red pill online content I've seen details how to cold approach a woman, how to check and see if she's got red flags, going on dating apps and advice on how to curate a profile to pull the most women. Also, if things unfold at their own pace, at what point do you tell them about being red pill? Another important thing is that a relationship where she never actually learns who you are means you never have a real relationship since the red pill guy lied the whole time? Idk, it's l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 08:55 AM
1	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed. God, you know what this is way too fucking long and I'm thinking too hard about this, disregard man, lol. I gotta look into this more and see if I can find a red pill guy to talk with about all this, I wanna know so much about their world view when they're not rabidly angry about height and women fucking chads Yes. That is my point. If such men hate women, then why do so many red pill guys want one? It's like if someone who hates bugs constantly posted about how gross bugs are and how disgusting…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 08:21 AM
2	Why do women treat their male friends so differently? Look dude. I'm not trying to be too harsh. I can tell you got caught in a thought loop. First I want to say that I definitely think men and women can be friends, and in my experience, I have treated friends of the opposite gender the exact same as those of the same gender. And you can experience the same, it depends on the person. Personally, I keep running into trouble where I interact with people of the opposite sex the same as people of the same sex and it gets awkward. One time I gave a cowo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 07:40 AM
1	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed. Dude, this subreddit says it is a place to discuss issues related to sex and gender, specifically pertaining to the subreddits for theredpill and thebluepill. Theredpill is for discussion on sexual strategy... are you trolling? The context of this post and comments is that we are talking about the cultural movement that refers to itself as "red pill" or "taking the red pill" in reference to the metaphor of the red pill. What do you mean this has fuck all to do with dating? Have you gotten subred…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:56 AM
2	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed. "a manner or the content of thinking characteristic of an individual, group, or culture" So an ideology?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:36 AM
0	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed. "Red pill ideology centers around the belief that men are systemically oppressed in a..." quote from Wikipedia on the article for Red Pill and Blue Pill under the section As a political metaphor. The phrase Red pill ideology is used more than once.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:31 AM
1	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed. How would it be referred to? A mindset? A goal? I don't mean to sound rude, every where I read on it referred to it differently, "red pill" "being red pilled" "the red pill mindset" "the red pill is an ideology based on..." "I'm red pill/red pilled" "a red pill man" "Redpill lifestyle".	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:24 AM
3	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed. What part of reality do you mean that I get to ignore? I don't think I understand. Edit: I think I figured it out. You think I'm not a man? To clarify. I have never been hit on or flirted with in my life aside from one partner who I initiated with and pursued before they started flirting back. (Have had a harrasing comment from a coworker when I was a teen that was odd, but it was not a compliment, they called me technically legal and laughed. I ignored it, management wouldnt have cared.) I have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:20 AM
3	Why do women treat their male friends so differently? The solution is when a woman tells you no to physical intimacy or access to situations they allow other friends to participate in, you respect her lack of consent, and don't try to argue that her reason for saying no is unfair, so she can't tell you no. Platonic physical intimacy is still intimacy that requires consent. You can't just tell a woman she needs to say yes to you because otherwise she's oppressing you or something. Just because some people have her consent for some forms of touching …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 06:01 AM
4	Why do women treat their male friends so differently? Nobody gets it from both. It is unfair. You keep arguing that it is unfair for you to have different friendships because of your dick. Everybody agrees. But it can't be changed. Everyone is explaining why, their personal stories of boundaries crossed, blurred feelings, unwanted confessions, unsafe obsessions, betrayed intentions, and abandoned friendships. All these women are telling you that they also don't get to have cuddles from both men and women because of these issues. But you want both! …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 05:42 AM
4	Why do women treat their male friends so differently? The trouble is that every evil man was once also trusted. At least a small amount. There is no point which a man goes from trusted to not trusted that doesn't involve risk or harm or betrayal of what their friendship had been. And that no amount of years is enough. Time doesnt make trust less breakable, it just makes it more painful if it does break. Also, if it helps at all, women also don't fully trust other women. Not strangers, and not even close friends with absolutely everything. These clo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 05:20 AM
0	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed. Thank you for your response, especially your last point. It makes sense. I am still struggling to understand why the male red pill focuses so much on hatred towards women almost exclusively. For your door analogy, this is definitely too literal, but I guess wouldn't a simpler and easier solution be to... remove the door? I know it's not nearly that simple in reality. But the only reason why men feel the need to adhere to these strict standards even if they are totally wonderful people and would …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 04:50 AM
4	Why do women treat their male friends so differently? I just want to chime in, it seems like you feel that it is really unfair and you worry that women will not give you the same level of oppeness and affection they would give to another stranger of the same level and familiarity who happens to be female. I understand this feeling. Women get the same thing often, when they try to befriend a man and get laughed at because they're a girl, they can't be "one of the boys." They can't do the same things guys do. They are not privy to locker room talk. E…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 04:13 AM
0	Red pill men speak often about failing to form romantic relationships with women, I believe the ideology is flawed. Which part, the fact that it's a system which continues to benefit the people who play into it? I did address that in the post. I know its hierarchal traits are what perpetuate it. Are you referring to the lack of relationships? I often see people who say they are red pilled complaining about not being able to get a girlfriend and wanting/deserving one. I'd do find it confusing, as part of these beliefs is that women are the enemy and are inherently all the same, and all evil. Yet so many make p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 02:56 AM