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Why is "the goal" to end violence only against women and girls?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/22 07:39 PM
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Would you care if some of that experience was with other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 10:53 PM
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Then you need to clarify you're talking about straight bodycount only. As it stands, women harshly judge men for engaging in the exact same behavior they engage in (i.e. sex with men).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:59 PM
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Women are just more forgiving of a high body count than men 100% incorrect. Per this survey: 63% of women, however, say they wouldn't date a man who has had sex with another man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:37 PM
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The real reason is because men see a man’s touch as some inherently degrading thing and think of womens bodies as commodities that can be made “used up” or “dirty” by it It's not just men who see it this way. It's definitely not just men: Results indicated that heterosexual women rated bisexual men as less sexually and romantically attractive, less desirable to date and have sex with, and less masculine compared to straight men. No such differences were found for heterosexual and gay men’s ratin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:17 PM
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how women are judged more when it comes to sleeping around and racking up a high N count This is often called unfair because it affects women more negatively when they are doing the same thing as men. Just the opposite. Women judge men very harshly for having slept with (too many) men. Per that survey, 63% of women won't date a man who has slept with another man even once. Men judge women for sleeping with (too many) men, but not that strictly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:51 PM
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The reality if the 63%+ of women who won't date a bisexual man won't do so out of perao al insecurities not due to biphobia. Could it not just be preference, exactly like men who are turned off by women who have slept with too many men? What's really interesting to me is that just a few years ago you could fund a dozen studies on the topic with a quick Google search. Now I can't find one study with a quick search. Have they been removed or hidden? This is one, anyway: https://www.tandfonline.com…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:39 PM
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If it's misleading, it's only because it's never debated. Which is the point of the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:28 PM
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I think you misread my comment. Women seem to care more, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:02 PM
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I don't recall ever seeing much controversy over this. 63% of women said they wouldn't date a man who has had sex with a man. Did you misread my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 07:01 PM
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That's the thing about polarizing topics, they engender a lot of debate. Nobody debates "do women care about how many guys a potential boyfriend has slept with?" because the answer is obvious (and not polarizing).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 05:29 PM
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That's a dodge if I've ever seen one
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:48 AM
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So Black men would lose these benefits if women held power instead, correct? Would they be worse off overall?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:00 AM
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Does this benefit apply to Black men, or are we excluding them from this discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 01:21 AM
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Nope! Sure can't. You win!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 02:05 PM
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You got me, there is no evidence that feminism is mainstream! Sorry for trying to trick you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 02:02 PM
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What power do they actually have? Not sure how you haven't noticed, but feminism is mainstream now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 01:40 PM
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If you want to compare apples to apples, 63% of women say they wouldn't date a man who has had sex with another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 09:27 PM
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It's definitely a double standard. It's NOT a double standard. Women think men who have slept with too many men are "gross", too. In fact, they generally have much lower tolerances for such behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:49 PM
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It's more than 50%. And still, taking away half of a man's dating pool is huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:04 PM
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Bi men... have a slew of straight women to date in that case. Women don't date bi men as a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:15 PM
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But my point is no one should be denigrated and seen as genuinely inferior based on genetic traits. That's exactly what not wanting to date someone is. If women are attracted to men in group A and not group B, that makes group B inferior. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:30 PM
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but more would be willing to date short men because of less shame associated. I think you have it exactly backwards. There is "negative social stigma" around being short because women aren't attracted to short men. (Stigma is negative and social by definition, by the way)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:25 PM
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There’s a reason those negative perceptions of short men exist and it’s because society has a negative perception of short men. You keep using the word "society" when you mean "women". Women don't want to date short men. Everything else stems from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:21 PM
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Probably no easier. Maybe even the same thing, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:09 PM
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Do what, exactly. You can't make people be attracted to something, as body positivity movements have demonstrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:58 PM
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But is it that much of a detriment IRL from 5’9 to 6 ft? Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:27 PM
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No "Hang in there!" kitten?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:25 PM
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There's no middle for men because women overwhelming reject bi men. A bi man who can't get sex from women is just gay in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:47 PM
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The goal is not to convince them. The goal is to convince others that they are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:21 PM
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The fetus isn't separate. It's literally in a person's body. And where are its rights? Not in the constitution, certainly. A fetus has no rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:13 PM
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Perhaps because what you do to your body should be between you and your doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:09 PM
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Not exclusively, but yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:50 PM
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Music trends. Not kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:44 PM
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No, because it wouldn't load in my browser
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/22 05:16 PM
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This "news" site is pure cancer
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/22 04:10 PM
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Maybe the old ones are. Recent Disney movies are all-in on the Strong Woman trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 03:43 PM
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We need to normalise being single for a man and maybe using their weapons; make single men 'strong, independent men' who 'don't need no woman'. What does this even mean? Literally, what does "make single men strong, independent men" mean. How do you "make" them that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/22 11:34 PM
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yes, but 'being a man' doesn't have to be toxic. I think Maher's point is that yes, it does. At least a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:27 PM
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Damsels in distress is the oldest trope in the book. It attracted eyeballs then, it attracts eyeballs now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/22 02:45 PM
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"Gendered issue" is a just euphemism for "women's issue".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/22 02:42 PM
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There is. Results indicated that heterosexual women rated bisexual men as less sexually and romantically attractive, less desirable to date and have sex with, and less masculine compared to straight men. No such differences were found for heterosexual and gay men’s ratings of female and male profiles, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 12:58 PM
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What era do you think was the healthiest in terms of sexual interaction between men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:43 PM
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Cool. As long as we're polite and don't say these things out loud, then problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:19 PM
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So do you think we could eliminate toxic masculinity by forcing women to change what they are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:17 PM
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Possibly. By all means, please explain what you think I missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:09 PM
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As you said in your original post, it's only implied. Nobody goes around saying "you do not meet my standards" to people's faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:03 PM
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Good luck. You can't change what people are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:47 PM
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I mean, if you don't meet a standard, you are "less-than" by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:46 PM
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So, standards are inherently "an issue"...?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 03:39 PM
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No: Results indicated that heterosexual women rated bisexual men as less sexually and romantically attractive, less desirable to date and have sex with, and less masculine compared to straight men. No such differences were found for heterosexual and gay men’s ratings of female and male profiles, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 02:34 PM
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You can also see that when men are asked if they'd date a bisexual (without any other qualifiers) the answer is often "no, I'd just have sex with her" and "only for threesomes". Do you have a source on this claim? Because it directly contradicts the study I posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 12:34 PM
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Actually guys don't care. Women care a lot though. Study. Results indicated that heterosexual women rated bisexual men as less sexually and romantically attractive, less desirable to date and have sex with, and less masculine compared to straight men. No such differences were found for heterosexual and gay men’s ratings of female and male profiles, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:00 PM
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Men don't "deserve" (good), men are "entitled" (bad).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:10 PM
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In your mind, is women policing men's sexuality better than women policing men's n-count? Assuming, for the sake of argument, that they even make a distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 01:51 PM
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If only men matter to n count, then the likelihood for a woman to reject a man would increase as his amount of male partners increased, and not just between one and zero Says who? It can be a binary thing. People reject partners if they've ever done ___ all the time. Think major crimes, hard drugs, violence, whatever. I've never heard anyone say "5 murders at his age is too many. 4 I could live with." Also note nowhere did I say "only men matter to n count" or similar. I do think they matter a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:01 PM
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Note that the actual number of how many men a man has sex with isn't being discussed. It is, the number is either 0 or more than 0. It's very strict. Or they care because of what it says about his sexuality. Do you have any evidence of this at all? I'm guessing it would have to be something showing women being fine with dating straight men who have had sex with other men. Absent that, we have to stick with 63% of women, however, say they wouldn't date a man who has had sex with another man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:20 PM
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Why? This statement is very clear to me: 63% of women, however, say they wouldn't date a man who has had sex with another man Ergo, women care about a man's n-count. To an extreme degree, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:25 PM
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No, because per this survey: 63% of women, however, say they wouldn't date a man who has had sex with another man And differentiating between "bisexual man" and "man who has had sex with other men" is splitting hairs in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:03 PM
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I don't think what you've written is accurate; this study contradicts it pretty emphatically. The takeaway (from the abstract): Results indicated that heterosexual women rated bisexual men as less sexually and romantically attractive, less desirable to date and have sex with, and less masculine compared to straight men. No such differences were found for heterosexual and gay men’s ratings of female and male profiles, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 08:38 PM
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If any of those Ns are other men then they care a lot. As in, one is too many. If you look at n-count sidewise it actually is a lot simpler: people generally care about their partner's male n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:52 PM
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It's a story because female victimhood is always a story. Damsels in distress is the oldest trope in the book. We eat it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:16 PM
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The closest I think we'll come to answering that question statistically is this: Around 2/3rds of straight women wouldn't date a man who has had sex with another man. For a straight man, being perceived as gay by women is close to sexual death. Point being, you can you blame men if you want for avoiding "feminine stuff", but the reason isn't exclusively (or even principally) how other men react. How women react has a huge impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:45 AM
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I think most liberal women would appreciate it Intellectually, sure. Does it affect how sexually attracted they are to the guy, though. That's the important question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:07 AM
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Because other men What do women think about men who do "feminine stuff"? Specifically, does it affect how they look at these men sexually?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 11:40 PM
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I mean, would it kill the mods to implement a "no generalizations in your title" rule? I'd wager the source of at least half of their problems on that sub are the "DAE MEN?" post titles.
/r/MensRights13/06/21 07:30 PM
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My point is that women, especially, are the ones who enforce these standards on men. You said you use to do this yourself. Men don't want to be perceived as gay, because then women overwhelmingly would reject them romantically. The hard truth, frankly, is that blaming "society" is just a way of avoiding holding women accountable for their role in all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 02:08 PM
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Even bi women can think this way? That... makes it worse. Maybe that 2/3 metric applies to all women, not just straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 01:49 PM
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The thing is, you would no longer be "straight", especially in the eyes of women (whom you want to date). You'll be labeled as gay and that's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:36 PM
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Why would you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:31 PM
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2/3rds of straight women will not date a man who has had sex with another man. These women believe in gender/sexual fluidity in the abstract, but not for the men they actually date. All the other issues aside, doing gay porn would be absolutely ruinous to a straight man's romantic life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:21 PM
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I don't disagree with any of this. I'm more asking if there are benefits to any of these behaviors that go along with their downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 05:55 PM
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So they're saying there are trade-offs to being a masculine man. As in, there are good things about it and bad things about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 03:22 PM
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This is old
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 10:37 PM
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