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If that's your perogative then so be it. If someone I knew was a great boon for my career, but I know that they are a terrible person, I wouldn't want to benefit from it. But that's me. If you do not feel morally obliged to surround yourself with people who are not assholes, then I cannot convince you to do things differently. Because we fundamentally differ in reasons and conditions why we have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:59 PM
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These women will find out in due time that the man she is with is a terrible person. If she's willing to take that deal in exchange for him being attractive, then that's her choice unfortunately. I wouldn't want to date a man who is an ass, even if he was attractive. There are many women who agree. So what do I / you care that there might be some women going for him? I'm definitely not jealous or angry cause I would never want that person anyways. She can have him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:54 PM
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Why is your rhetoric "what do I get out of this?" Why do you think you deserve a cookie? Why do you want to be friends with someone you think is despicable? If one of my friends made a rape joke, I'd happily cut contact with them, because I would never want to be friends with someone like that anyways. If you think you deserve some reward for that, you're looking at it sideways.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:51 PM
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Ostracism is the way. You don't need to outwardly confront someone either. Sometimes if a man says something sexist, you can just choose to not reply, ignore it, or say something like "Dude, cut it out". You don't need to go beat someone up man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:44 PM
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Men do the same thing though. Have you ever seen how a man treats a woman he is not attracted to? Have you ever seen how a man shows clear distaste / outright disgust for an unattractive woman making moves on him? It's a common occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:15 PM
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I appreciate the input and I would also agree with that. When I am genuinely interested in someone I'm very active in engaging with them and I would hate to have that seen as "easy" when it's a sincere display of interest / affection. I guess I'm just anxious about it because what I enjoy (directness, openness) is not always shared by others, or it doesn't work out from a psychological point of view. You say that wouldn't judge a woman for doing sexual stuff with you too early, and I appreciate …
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/25 12:39 PM
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That's a great way to put it. Thanks!
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/25 08:28 AM
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Thanks! And don't worry I actually really appreciated your anecdote. It helps to hear from people with similar experiences.
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/25 07:26 AM
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Thanks for the guide!
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/25 07:25 AM
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I appreciate the input! It's interesting how different men and women are in that regard. For me, romantic interest is def not something I get on a first glance.
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/25 07:24 AM
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Oh God I could go on forever about why my first relationship was awful. It was my first, we were both clueless, he was way too insecure and clingy. I didn't know better and felt too bad to breakup. It did teach me a lot of things about boundaries and self-worth though. I don't know if I want a relationship. It all feels very stressful thinking about it. But I do want to try. Because my first relationship went so bad I'd been weary for years, but it's been around 7 years and I feel like trying ag…
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/25 09:29 PM
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Thanks! I think I'm scared of telling him directly as I also have commitment issues on my part. Sure, I have a bit of a crush now, but what if I get to know him better, and he turns out to be lame after all? I suppose I'm not thinking straight and just stressing out right now... I have a date next week so I'll take some of the advice here and see where it goes..
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/25 08:54 PM
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Thanks for the advice! I don't often do casual sex. Maybe that also makes the romance aspect worse. But lately I've just been so busy with work and no time to invest in a relationship, so casual sex seemed convenient to take care of the ... urges. Not saying that's a good thing, just how I fell into it.
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/25 08:34 PM
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As long as men can't empathize that women want emotional connection more than sexual, why expect women to empathize that men want sexual connection over emotional? Lol. People have different values and priorities, if you can't see different perspectives then you lack empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:23 PM
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But if you really are bothered by it, why don't you campaign to change it, the same way women campaigned to change negative stereotypes? You have to organize if you want something to change and women can't do this for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:05 PM
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This is the reason I don't want to raise my children like that. Both men and women should feel comfortable with sharing emotions and platonic hugs and touches without thinking it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:04 PM
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Same applies for touch. Women are comfortable touching each other and we don't think it's "gay" or "dirty". I wish men also would feel comfortable doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:03 PM
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But women can be emotionally lonely. A lot of women can also have great difficulty finding female friends. And sure, women can have easy sex, but women want emotional sex. Not just a quick fuck. So in those terms, that's also hard for women, who are socially awkward / introvert, to get out and find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:35 AM
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I wish men would feel comfortable having deeper friendships and sharing emotions. Romantic love is not unimportant, but I find great importance in kinship with my female friends because they are women. We understand each other better with some topics, and I'm sure there are similar cases for men. Men insist that friendship cannot replace relationship, but I also insist that a romantic relationship is not a substitute for friendship (with men)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:34 AM
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But why don't you want to have deeper friendships with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:26 AM
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The central difference is that women are not as threatened by being alone as men are. Men spend stupid amounts of money to not be lonely, on host bars, prostitutes, etc. Women when they're lonely try to find female friends most of the time. Why don't men find male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:13 AM
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The anime body pillow doesn't count
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:52 PM
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I hope no woman has the misfortune of finding you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:50 PM
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Let me know when you find that woman you speak of
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:49 PM
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Then you agree that your wife does not need consent to divorce you right? I thought men were good at logic yet you keep dancing around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:21 PM
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And you redpill men wonder why women avoid you like the plague LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:20 PM
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Your partner can break up with you and doesn't need your permission to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:17 PM
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You redpill men are hilarious. Always talking about how big of a deal it is that women sleep around, but you just wanna philander around yourself. Projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:17 PM
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Divorce is a one-sided decision. If someone else is not okay with you having sex outside the marriage, they can divorce you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:13 PM
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He wants to sleep around but also wants to have his servant at home do the cooking and cleaning, obviously. This is just redpill mentality without the fedora.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:05 PM
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What you are describing then is a consensual open relationship. If it's not consensual then it's cheating, and the other person can breakup as you broke their terms. What about this do you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:04 PM
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Then your partner has the right to divorce or break up. Easy. You want to have sex without repercussions like you redpill men accuse women of doing. Deal with the repercussions of wrecking your own home.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 04:02 PM
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Everyone has boundaries. If the terms of your relationship is that you remain strictly monogamous, and one person breaks those terms, then you are free to break up or divorce. Conditions go both ways. If you want an open relationship, you discuss it beforehand. If one party is not in agreement, then you go your separate ways and find someone who is willing to do. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:56 PM
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Your problem is that you think women wanting an education and career is "being like a man" when that is HUMAN right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:54 PM
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Of course you don't want birth control for women. Every opinion you have in this thread is for your own convenience. You want women to have babies for you and become your live at home slave. You don't want women to have autonomy over their bodies, that would be inconvenient for you. Why should all women give up education and become human incubators? Women want to contribute to other elements of society aside from child rearing. Women are outpacing men in school. Men have always convinced themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 07:44 AM
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I know that most men were dirt poor in the history of the world. I also know that most women were even poorer. They were always subservient to men in this regard. Lay down the red pill. Whenever new technology offered opportunities for humans, it was always first offered to men. University was only for men, until women were allowed in. Working in corporate was only for men, until women were allowed in. Your argument that most men were poor does not negate that despite mass poverty, men were enab…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 07:36 AM
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Such a cop-out answer. Many women nowadays are willing to earn more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:32 PM
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The traditional life that you describe in the last paragraph benefitted men in the past. Women had no access to their own finances, they could not get higher education, they could not work. The men was the sole governor of the finances. Women could not have the finances to divorce abusive husbands. If a woman wanted to buy something she had to ask the man. Of course women don't want this life anymore! Of course women demanded the ability to open their own bank accounts and the right to vote. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:31 PM
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I have seen many terrible traditional marriages where the husband and wife have no love or passion for each other. Only stay together for the children. They hate each other, but they have to stay married. I also live in reality 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:26 PM
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> and all those relationships are in various state of dysfunction and or failure It seems like we have arrived at the 'I can't argue my way out of this so I'm going to make up a fantasy situation that does not exist'! Oh yes, their relationships are all absolutely terrible, so miserable, oh just so torturous... Whatever has you sleeping at night man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:58 PM
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But why are you, and other RP men, so obsessed with averages and generalizations. Sure, the average is still that most women raise children and most men work. But in many Western countries the roles are less extreme than in the past. And this dynamic seems to fit and benefit people much better. Many of the countries that have more equal gender roles are also the countries that are more prosperous than the countries that still have strict gender roles. Based on your generalization, wouldn't it pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:55 PM
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Hilarious. You have never touched a woman. Just reaffirms my belief that you RP men are miserable and out of touch with reality. I know many men IRL who are happily partnered with women who earn more, or are the main breadwinner. You are robbing yourself of happiness and stuck in a regressive manchild state, and wonder why women don't date you. It's not because you are 'not a Chad', it's because you are miserable and it rubs off on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:46 PM
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> The reason men today are weak and pathetic is because we do not have families! No loving women, no kids, no stakes in the game, nothing. We don't give a fuck! There is nothing in this fucking life for us. This is hilarious because most male colleagues I know are happily partnered with children, a wife that works, and a shared effort in child rearing. You are so chronically online, or you have daddy issues, that makes you feel like the world is ending. Don't project your own doomthinking onto e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:53 PM
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Mostly, women complain about their partners not putting enough effort in the house work, while also expecting women to work. Every argument I've seen in this thread just reaffirms my stance that RP men _know_ that the stay at home mother is an unglorious job. Despite complaining that marriage benefits women, how women have it better raising children, etc. then why aren't the men fighting to raise children and cook and clean, if it's so much easier and convenient?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:49 PM
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Every argument I've seen in this thread just reaffirms my stance that RP men _know_ that the stay at home mother is an unglorious job. Despite complaining that marriage benefits women, how women have it better raising children, etc. then why aren't the men fighting to raise children and cook and clean, if it's so much easier and convenient?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:48 PM
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Every argument I've seen in this thread just reaffirms my stance that RP men _know_ that the stay at home mother is an unglorious job. Despite complaining that marriage benefits women, how women have it better raising children, etc. then why aren't the men fighting to raise children and cook and clean, if it's so much easier and convenient?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:47 PM
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Every argument I've seen in this thread just reaffirms my stance that RP men _know_ that the stay at home mother is an unglorious job. Despite complaining that marriage benefits women, how women have it better raising children, etc. then why aren't the men fighting to raise children and cook and clean, if it's so much easier and convenient?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:47 PM
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> Of course she needs to tend to the home because we can't both be there 24/7. Why is the RP mentality never, the man tends to the home while the woman works full-time though? If, as I see in the previous comments from other RP men, that marriage is a scam that benefits the stay at home woman, then why don't RP men simply take up this role? Every argument I've seen in this thread just reaffirms my stance that RP men _know_ that the stay at home mother is an unglorious job. Despite complaining th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:45 PM
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That's fine. You don't see career women seething over the fact that tradcon men don't want them. However, you constantly see tradcon men angry at women who decide to prioritize study or career.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:27 PM
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While you reason yourself entirely miserable with this "generalization" and "probability" male dating strategy, plenty of men are partnered happily with women who earn more than them. Plenty of men are now happily together with taller women. It was possible for them, why deny yourself from even trying?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:22 PM
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You are literally doing the same thing to women that you blame women for doing to men. You say "typically", thus not every singly woman. So, "all men are sexist" is bad, but "all women want men with higher paying jobs" is "truth"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:38 PM
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"humans are not born equal" If you believe this genuinely then you should move to a country that truly believes this. Afghanistan is lovely this time of year.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:22 PM
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I'm not changing the topic. You focus on gold-diggers yet there also plenty of men who financially support gold-diggers. Obviously a man wants to be seen with a beautiful woman and have sex with her. For some men, they realize this is only possible by giving out large swathes of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:21 PM
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95% of men do not even have gold-digging money. Why is every RP man so afraid of a gold-digger? You can't all be rich
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:16 PM
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You are taking a generalization and assuming it holds for everyone. Sure, there are some women who find it unmanly that a man earns less. But there are plenty of women who don't mind a man earning less. There are plenty of women who date shorter guys. You might have less chance than a Chad, but not every woman is a Stacy either. I feel like RP men all want Stacies when they are not all Chads. A lot of RP and incel men let their assumptions and insecurities get to them so much that it makes them …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:15 PM
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Whereas men would like for a woman to want to be a team player and helpful and personally invested in their life together. Not tricked into being a slave. Not naive and unable to think for themselves or be manipulated. This applies equally when you flip the genders around. Women also want a man who is a team player and invested in their life. Women also don't like being tricked into being a slave, where they have to raise children, do housework, cook, etc. without any money that they own. This u…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:03 PM
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I personally think this is a myopic view of how relationships can work. In many progressive countries, it is customary for both partners to work. In many traditional countries, there are still the old ways where men work and women raise kids. These progressive countries have better quality of life, happier children, better education, better benefits. If your theory was correct that 50/50 doesn't work and is regressive to society, then why are countries where values are more equally divided, much…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:58 PM
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I heavily disagree that men are not intimidated by successful women. Men often get insecure if their female partner is more successful or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:56 PM
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Why do you believe it's not possible for two people to share in these duties?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:30 PM
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On point 2, I actually see that many men feel uncomfortable with a dynamic where the woman provides. So is it really winning in RP men's eyes for the woman to pay 100% ? Is being a stay at home father where a woman works, also possible within RP ideology? As you said, RP men believe that marriage benefits women in the end, so following that logic, would RP men want to find women who are the traditional husband then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:30 PM
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I do agree I think men feel satisfaction or fulfillment at being the provider or the "protector" of the house, in that sense. But in the end I still feel these values only work if they work well. As soon as there is disbalance, the family in crisis would threaten to fall apart. The perfect trad marriage only works if its environment is prosperous and stable, and often throughout history there is little such stability. But I do understand where your point is coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:23 PM
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The economy simply rebalances again for higher supply and demand... You are delusional if you think that if you killed half of the world population, you would be twice richer!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:17 PM
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You are irrationally blaming women for how our economic system works and has always worked. Women entering the work force did not make you poor, your boss and the billionaires on top keep you poor by exploiting your labor. This has nothing to do with women's responsibility, poor attempt at ragebait buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:11 PM
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Even back in the day a lot of men were not able to marry and reproduce. In the past, a significant number of men did not reproduce, with a select few men at the top that reproduce a lot. This has historically been the case. One example: https://np.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/7xvqai/once_you_understand_that_throughout_history_only/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:00 PM
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Some feminists also believe that marriage is a scam that pressure women into disproportionately large sacrifices, in exchange for disproportionately small rewards. Why is a trad marriage to red pill men, a lesser of evil, than say, a 50/50 marriage where both share the duties of job and child?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:53 PM
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I would argue that supply and demand only disbalance temporarily until it would equalize again to keep most men poor. Your argument only makes sense if you say, take half of the work force, and give that money to the remaining half. But say if most women quit the work force, most companies would realize that they lost half of their working population. Sure, men would be momentarily able to earn more, but everything in the economy would swiftly rebalance itself to adapt to the new supply and dema…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:50 PM
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Thanks for your elaborate answer! I can't help but feel that the tradlife is even harder for the man than a modern 50/50 marriage where both adults work and rear children. In a modern marriage, you have some leeway, for economic disasters or otherwise, where the woman can say "I can go to work for a while, while you try to find a new job". Why wouldn't you want that as a red pill man? Why would you want so much pressure on yourself to say "I must be the sole financial provider, and if I can't, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:46 PM
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Why is it the more a woman earns, the more pressure the man has to earn? You don't need to earn as much as you have extra income. That would take the load off your shoulder. Also in the disaster scenario, you talk about making sure to have enough savings. I think it is valid to say that the majority of men do not have such vast savings that they can go without any income for a long time, let alone if you have children, house, car, etc. So I'm going to copy a part of my question from another comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:36 PM
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You mention top 5%. The majority of young men do not have the career or financial means to be an attractive single-income provider. Would this mean that you prefer a world where most women should just wait around for men who earn enough to become attractive single-income providers? I imagine many men will never attain the career that is needed to provide for 2 adults and 2 children on his own, and a house to boot. In your world, most men would remain single. Isn't a huge criticism that red pill …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:29 PM
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I didn't say that tradwives are not attractive. However, here's a case: you are married to a tradwive and you lose your means of income for a long time (got fired, layoffs, etc). Do you think it is valid for her to seek divorce and marry another man who can provide for her? Essentially, this tradeoff that you seek in a tradwive is on the condition that she expects you to have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:21 PM
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I feel like there is a dichotomy between red pill men who say they feel there is too much pressure on them to be successful and rich to attract a woman, but also want women to adopt the submissive role and rely on them. Wouldn't it take some pressure off to engage in a relationship where the roles of breadwinner and childrearing was spread more or less 50/50, so there is less financial pressure on the man? In your ideal scenario, do you think it is valid for a woman to seek divorce if you, at so…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:17 PM
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You would still have to provide a significant amount if you were the sole bread winner of a family unit of 2 adults and 2 children, maybe even more children. Would you be satisfied then to only make enough to spend on child rearing and only that? No vacations, no outings, no days off, or rewards for your hard work aside from raising children? You are right, most people are not willing to do that anymore. If you do want extras, you'd have to make a substantial amount as one breadwinner, so you'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:12 PM
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The archetypal image of a gold digger is a woman who is very attractive and to men that is a marker of status though. Men will pay a lot of money to be associated with an attractive, sexy woman. Either to signal to other men that he is high status enough to get her, or to elevate his own ego, or to have sexual access to an attractive woman. That is essentially the money trade that a man makes in these cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:07 PM
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I disagree. If I was a woman who made way more money than my partner, and if I also had familial assets that would transfer to my name, I would 100% want a prenup. A messy divorce is so, so not worth it. Also, crimes or murders because of financial interest are very common in these situations. You also don't want a partner who only stays with you for the money, or for the fear of losing money. You should always have your own savings, a rainy day fund or a backup fund. Even if you think your marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:53 PM
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You people in this thread are absolutely delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:14 AM
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It may be easy to get a date or a FWB thing, but to actually get a relationship with a woman in Asia is like an Olympic struggle. You are not just marrying the woman, you are marrying the entire family... That means you are also expected to financially support not just the wife, but also her parents. And a few cousins to boot. Also you have little degree of free will. You can't just say "my work takes me to another country, can we move?" or "Can we send our kids to school X instead of school Y?"…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 11:32 AM
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You have never met Asian families if you truly think it's easier to date in Asia. You better have a house, a BMW, a doctor or lawyer's degree, and 100k in liquid cash ready. And those are just the minimum requirements!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 11:23 AM
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I would gladly have kids if I could be the father. No risk on my body. Lot less responsibility with child care. No impact on my career. Sounds like a dream. Unfortunately I'm a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:02 PM
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I agree that in certain cases, for example family law, the benefit of the doubt often goes toward the woman / mother. But often in these cases it's also male lawyers or male judges who make these decisions, and have codified these laws. I agree people should campaign to remove sex based military enlistment. In some countries, both sexes have military service (like Israel). But this is also something that men have to campaign for too, and I see that outside of feminist debates (which is largely w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:04 PM
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Seems valid! What would you consider as "too extreme"? As in, stalkerish behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:15 AM
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That's not true. Good physical traits hint to better genes. "Good" and "better" here in the sense of what makes us survive our environment better. See birds which mate based on which tail is brighter or longer. This is connected to the strength of a male, and therefore his offspring. We are attracted to physical symmetry and one theory is that it makes us more resistant to parasites. We can control our physical body by working out, and in turn this better physical body signals to others that we …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:16 PM
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Women definitely judge other women who are home wreckers / cheaters, because many women themselves have been in the same situation. It's definitely a disrespectful thing to do and not something you would openly talk about to your female friends. Friends might give each other a pass, but this is highly dependent on the friend group. I would consider that to be a more trashy-friend group tbh. I myself would not want to be among those types.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:22 AM
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That's interesting! Again, I can only say for myself. But I'm thinking that the match criteria for women is probably different on Tinder-like apps since they're more looking for something sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:13 PM
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You seem to imply that we need less highly educated women to force the birth rates up. My question here: why is this only a problem that we women need to solve? What I see is that men are unwilling to assist in the child rearing, I would happily have more children if men actually did 50% of that labor. But in reality, women are still expected to do the lion's share. Many women don't want to settle down and have children because only for women this means that their career is severely impacted. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:07 PM
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For me it can be kind of intimidating. Especially if the guy is very muscular.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:48 AM
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I actually don't like guys' shirtless pictures. But everyone is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:38 AM
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Why do men paint women not having children as a problem with feminism? Men are also having less children. People simply can't afford it. Japan is still a very conservative and traditional country and their birth rates are plummeting. If people could actually afford a house and child care, I'm sure more people would have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:27 AM
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