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Try it 50 times and report back OP
/r/seduction16/01/17 08:10 PM
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In my opinion, what you did wasn't a compliance test, but you simply gave her an opportunity to invest/chase you
/r/seduction13/01/17 06:57 PM
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But even if she does say no, it's not a big deal. Just gotta move on to the next girl. Still a bad move. That's the mindset of a quitter. Keep in mind she's not rejecting YOU, she's just rejecting that particular escalation. If you get a NO response, take a step back > Say a statement of empathy (I.e "Haha I'm sorry! I'm just in a good mood!) > change the conversational topic as if nothing ever happened. Now you know what to do if you get a NO, so all you have to do is escalate!
/r/seduction10/01/17 04:06 AM
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Yes.
/r/seduction10/01/17 12:01 AM
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Why are you trying to over-game her? She already likes you so get your head out of your ass and relax dude.
/r/seduction09/01/17 12:14 PM
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You don't get female friends from failed dates bro. Wake up
/r/seduction09/01/17 12:13 PM
2

I have the product by RSD Max called "The Natural" fucking life changer right there.
/r/seduction09/01/17 12:10 PM
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All these guys are giving compicated ass answers. Listen OP, if we follow the entire trail of "whys", the number ONE reason you are scared of bwing physical is because you don't know what to do if you get a NO response from the girl.
/r/seduction09/01/17 07:22 AM
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Relationships now simply... I... can't stomach the idea of having LTRs. Me too honestly. I would rather have fuck buddies. I won't even consider a gf until I've fucked her at least a handful of times.
/r/seduction09/01/17 07:17 AM
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THIS
/r/seduction09/01/17 07:12 AM
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You recommend next time for day game just opening with compliments and moving on to another set? Yes. Only as a warmup. Do it for 10 girls. then focus on getting numbers/pulls
/r/seduction09/01/17 07:11 AM
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Remember: YOU are what's making the date epic. Not the date itself.
/r/seduction09/01/17 04:32 AM
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A few things she says "You're really sweet." Translation: "You're boring as fuck." She's obviously kind of flustered or taking aback that I approached her, and really standoffish. I kind of reflect her energy and stupidly ask mundane questions like "What are you shopping for?" VERY bad move on your part. You opened, which is ok. But you didn't CALIBRATE. You creeped her out. Dude, understand that daygame isn't normal, other people have shit to do. Actually try to put yourself in her shoes. I ran…
/r/seduction09/01/17 04:29 AM
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I'm beyond disappointed in you OP.
/r/seduction09/01/17 04:22 AM
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He does kind of have a point though. You aren't willing to risk putting yourself out there. So you try to mask your ego with a "dare". Doing that means you're trying to get the girl without risking your EGO if she rejects you. Its fun, but it wont get you any vagina in the end.
/r/seduction09/01/17 04:21 AM
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HA!
/r/seduction09/01/17 04:19 AM
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Haha! I'm sorry man
/r/seduction08/01/17 11:23 PM
2

Keep at it man!!! No giving up!!!
/r/seduction07/01/17 11:55 PM
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I'm gonna keep going! No giving up!
/r/seduction07/01/17 06:38 PM
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Crazy day for me man!
/r/seduction07/01/17 06:35 PM
1

I felt nothing because she already gave me a shit load of indicators of interest.
/r/seduction07/01/17 07:13 AM
1

That's a good question. Now that I think about it...I felt nothing. I didn't even consider to care to be honest. Me and her just laughed it off.
/r/seduction07/01/17 06:39 AM
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You didn't answer my question.
/r/seduction07/01/17 05:15 AM
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Sure thing! Not a day goes by where I'm not talking to a female. Old, married, single. I'm talking to them all. No holding back.
/r/seduction07/01/17 04:20 AM
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Thanks! I'm gonna keep going. On my next day off I'm going back to the mall or to the beach.
/r/seduction07/01/17 03:03 AM
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Thanks man! I really should have attempted to pound her cat!
/r/seduction07/01/17 02:26 AM
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Haha! I wish! Its only retail. But a lot of very attractive women come in.
/r/seduction07/01/17 12:55 AM
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Then why are you on this sub Reddit? Unsubscribe. Your genes aren't meant to be spread. Focus on the piano or something. I'm not giving you pity or sympathy. Your will is weak and fragile. Quit.
/r/seduction06/01/17 07:16 AM
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You don't wanna ask a girl out. You wanna invite her to a place you were already going to. Also, give her a compliment on her personality before you invite her. She needs to know why you are inviting her out. I.e "Listen {girls name}, not only are you cute but you are also very sophisticated, I'm going to X on [whatever day], it would be more fun if you came along! :)"
/r/seduction06/01/17 04:02 AM
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I kinda second this. I just hate seeing sooo many guys not willing to go in the fucking paint and put in the work it takes to get good. All they do is complain about game being tough. YES game is tough but a also FAIR.
/r/seduction06/01/17 03:56 AM
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Don't know why you're being downvoted. I say OP says his true intentions to her upfront.
/r/seduction06/01/17 02:15 AM
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Unspoken rule of game: Never take girls advice from girls
/r/seduction05/01/17 09:38 PM
1

Why?
/r/seduction05/01/17 09:15 PM
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If a girl brings someone with her on a date then it's not a date.
/r/seduction05/01/17 09:14 PM
1

My thoughts exactly. Game is simple, but not always easy.
/r/seduction05/01/17 09:10 PM
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Let me ask you something. How often do you go out and talk to women?
/r/seduction05/01/17 06:32 AM
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Ahh the age old question. Realize this. Women LOVE sex waaaayyyymore than guys. Love happens naturally and it occurs through sexual arousal. That's why the best way to get a girlfriend is to fuck her first. Seduction still seems kinda new to you I'm guessing, that's why you're very confused.
/r/seduction05/01/17 04:33 AM
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I don't have an issue talking to women or going on a date, but how in the hell can you turn a date into hooking up? If a girl meets you on date it can ONLY mean that she wants to fuck you.
/r/seduction05/01/17 04:10 AM
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IF you walk through life deceiving or playing head games with women, your self esteem will always be in ruin no matter how many women you pick up. This time one fucking THOUSAND. Biggest lesson of all right here. Sooo many guys try to avoid rejection and shittests so they go indirect or try to go under the radar. Don't do it.
/r/seduction05/01/17 04:05 AM
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I DM'ed 5 and 3 responded
/r/seduction04/01/17 02:06 PM
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Yeah lol oh! And she speaks those languages fluently
/r/seduction04/01/17 01:15 PM
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Calibration is adjusting to her response. So if you were to walk up to a girl and say "Hi" and she freaks out then you calibrate and say something like “Haha I'm sorry I'm just in a good mood! :D”
/r/seduction04/01/17 01:13 PM
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Aww YEEAAAHHH (I'm on the bus to the mall right now btw haha)
/r/seduction03/01/17 07:23 PM
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I had to copy it down haha, I'll show my tattoo artists this upcoming week to see how much he'll charge me
/r/seduction03/01/17 06:26 PM
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I'm getting that quote tattooed, where did you get it from?
/r/seduction03/01/17 05:46 PM
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You're last approach went AMAZING! You did everything right. The girl just didn't wanna talk to you. Its okay brother!!!
/r/seduction03/01/17 05:41 PM
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That's right!!! I'm heading to the mall today! Will post a FR everyday
/r/seduction03/01/17 05:38 PM
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I know this might be new to you but pleassseeeee trust meeee on this one please!!!! I will never tell you anything wrong brother, just trust me, don't question it, just do it. Please!
/r/seduction01/01/17 12:04 AM
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I am free X,Y,Z, days, when are you free to meet up" seems like my best option, what do you think? No. Don't push for a meet up yet. The first thing you should do now is try to get on the same page with her. I recommend calling her for this, call her and say something along the lines of, "Fuck it, I like you, do you like me?". Trust me man. You are the fucking man!!! You have a lot of subconscious attraction from her now all you need to do is make it conscious! If she says yes, THEN you push for…
/r/seduction31/12/16 10:23 PM
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Broooo, you got GAME!!!! All you have to do now is NOT game her. You don't want to run the risk of over gaming. She kissed you, she already likes you. Just be normal and let her gravitate to you
/r/seduction31/12/16 09:19 PM
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Why?
/r/seduction31/12/16 12:44 PM
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Exactly. This is how the masters do it. Women make the first move. You just have to know the signals. Just trust me.
/r/seduction31/12/16 05:31 AM
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It's not that they don't, you just aren't aware. You need to walk into a room like you own it. Have good body language and look around, then you could see, this girls into you, that girls into you, and you haven't even said a word yet, you just got them to notice you through your body language
/r/seduction31/12/16 05:25 AM
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The whole point of game is to convince/trick the girl that you are more desirable than the multitude of men she interacts with. Now you know why you don't get success with women.
/r/seduction31/12/16 01:47 AM
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I completely understand where you are coming from. But when you or OP approaches women, what is the women getting out of the interaction. Believe it or not, sex is not a big deal to 90% of women, sure they enjoy it more but generally speaking they don't care because they can easily get it from anybody. So I'll ask you again. What are you or OP giving women by interacting with them? If the answer is nothing then game will never work for you.
/r/seduction30/12/16 10:55 PM
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This is what I do. In fact, before I cold approach, in most cases, we have already made eye contact and shared a few smiles... That's the way it's supposed to be done. A lot of guys think men make the first move because we approach. That's wrong. Its women that make the first move. They make the first move through their eyes and body language. I stopped approaching women who don't send invitations for me to talk to them. Think about it this way, a girl will not make eye contact with a smelly bum…
/r/seduction30/12/16 05:45 PM
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What she was doing was the "automatic firewall response" keep in mind, you are still a stranger. She doesn't know you that well. Don't try to talk to her to GET her to ask you something so you can escalate. This is one of the reasons I stopped listening to RSD because they tend to make guys very reaction seeking. Instead just remain persistent and fun and just talk for the sake of talking.
/r/seduction30/12/16 02:47 PM
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After every single rejection I felt a bit more drained. This is your mistake right there. If you feel worse after a rejection, that means that you we're trying to take something from the girl instead of give. Imagine offering someone 100 dollars, if they say no you're going to smile and happily walk away because you get to keep your money. Versus if you wanted to ask her for 100 dollars and she said no you would feel bad.
/r/seduction30/12/16 02:44 PM
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"Hey, first time here (with a warm smile)?"
/r/seduction30/12/16 06:56 AM
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HAHA brooo I promise to god that response will RARELY happen
/r/seduction29/12/16 04:01 AM
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You didn't fuck up. She just didn't want to give it to you.
/r/seduction28/12/16 07:43 PM
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LOL
/r/seduction28/12/16 07:24 PM
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The best way to make female friends (social circle) is just be normal and NOT game them. The best way to make female friends (stranger approaching) is to game them into your bedroom and just before you fuck her, back out and don't fuck her and tell her you can just be friends.
/r/seduction28/12/16 05:54 PM
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Confidence is not always a "feeling" its more of the actions you take. If you keep doing "confident" things the feeling will come naturally.
/r/seduction27/12/16 08:04 PM
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Firstly, you're coming from the assumtion that she's making a LOGICAL decision to not text you. Understand this, game must happen on an emotional level, not a logical one. A womans main drive is Emotions. A mans main drive is Logic.
/r/seduction27/12/16 08:03 PM
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Another tip, in your texts, NEVER use question marks or exclamation marks. Only commas and periods. Always keep your texts low investment, or equal to hers.
/r/seduction27/12/16 08:01 PM
1

She doesn't like you. You need to understand. If you just talked to her for 5 or 10 minutes in the initial interaction, exchanged numbers, what REAL reason is there for her to see you again? Are her bf? do you have mutual friends in common? Don't think that just because a girl "smiled" and gave you her number that you're in good hands.
/r/seduction27/12/16 08:00 PM
2

Word of advice, never ask a girl if its still "on" Just text her and say that you're going to be 10 minutes late instead even if you're not.
/r/seduction27/12/16 07:58 PM
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He gets a lot of numbers by being Direct but he's playing an unfair numbers game by doing that. Nevertheless, good ass infield!!!!
/r/seduction27/12/16 06:32 AM
1

LMMAAAOOOO why?
/r/seduction24/12/16 01:46 PM
1

Spot on. Just let her spend time with her parents.
/r/seduction24/12/16 01:44 PM
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A statement of empathy is solething along the lines of, “Haha, I'm sorry, I'm just in a good mood!” Physicality is a form of expression. Be physical because YOU want to. As for the "NO" response. I won't tell you what to expect. You need to go out and experience it for yourself. Best of luck in your endeavors!
/r/seduction24/12/16 01:40 PM
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The core reason you're scared to go for the kiss is because you don't know what to do if you get a "NO" response which is the girl leaning away, or telling you off. Physical escalation is one thing and one thing only: calibration. "No" response = Stop > take a step back > statement of empathy > stay in a good mood "Neutral" response = tone it back, try again later "Yes" response = stack it up(more and more physicality as long as there is a yes) Use physicality to "ping" where you are in the inte…
/r/seduction24/12/16 05:48 AM
3

“you’re obviously attractive, but beauty is pretty common in {insert city x}…what do you think your best quality is, thats non-physical" Most powerful tool in your arsenal right there.
/r/seduction24/12/16 05:43 AM
2

Spot on. Its almost scary how right you were.
/r/seduction23/12/16 05:48 PM
1

Exactly. People also need to realize that they are dealing with human beings and everyone is different. You have to use your numbers. I always talk to at least 3 or more women. Not every girl will be ready to be your girlfriend yet.
/r/seduction23/12/16 03:24 PM
1

Thank you so so so so much man!
/r/seduction22/12/16 04:37 PM
1

Thanks! I will definitely try this :)
/r/seduction22/12/16 04:36 PM
2

Thats what I had in mind brother. I just felt terrible and sick to my core.
/r/seduction22/12/16 06:21 AM
1

That's the universe rewarding you for your hard work friend!
/r/seduction21/12/16 05:07 AM
1

Yeam, i hear you bro.
/r/seduction21/12/16 05:06 AM
1

Yeah, you know what I mean lol
/r/seduction21/12/16 04:55 AM
1

Thanks! Time to get back in the game!!!
/r/seduction21/12/16 04:55 AM
1

Spot on brother. "Naturals" are what we Seducers are competing against.
/r/seduction20/12/16 07:16 PM
1

Exavtly. If you don't mind me asking, what would you have done differently?
/r/seduction20/12/16 03:21 PM
1

Sorry, I had many gf's taken from me by guys like him before I knew game.
/r/seduction20/12/16 06:42 AM
1

Realize that you're dealing with human beings. She rejected you because you invested waaayyy more than she was just by how committed you were to getting her to go with you. Anytime it looks like you're investing more than the girl, you LOSE.
/r/seduction20/12/16 05:17 AM
1

Oh my god dude...
/r/seduction20/12/16 05:15 AM
1

Im going to tell you something I don't tell people. A girl has to like you in general. If a girk doesn't like you in some sort of romantic way, you're not gonna fuck her. Im just keeping it real. This is why most guys in pickup do all this work to get these same day/night lays or lays from dates that don't end up going anywhere else or tend to only get fuck buddies for 1 month or two until that girl finds a gf because all they did was get the girl horny but she didn't like them, she was only com…
/r/seduction20/12/16 05:13 AM
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The mall. Just trust me. Dont do that formal coffe shop/lunch bullshit. Walk around the mall and relax. Trust me.
/r/seduction20/12/16 05:08 AM
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The mall. Just trust me. Dont do that formal coffe shop/lunch bullshit. Walk around the mall and relax. Trust me.
/r/seduction20/12/16 05:07 AM
1

I just wanna say that, this guy, whilst confident, thinks that numbers are the "endgame" Many "Naturals" think they're the shit because they're good at "social circle" game (which I can outgame them in as well) but really they ain't shit. That's why I refuse to practice "Natural" game because even guys who don't know it can still do it. This is why I ALWAYS stress learning "Structured" game over "Natural" game.
/r/seduction20/12/16 05:03 AM
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Okay. I'll try man. Before I achieve Imust believe.
/r/seduction18/12/16 05:05 AM
1

I see. But, I'm commited to this decision now. I tried all that already.
/r/seduction17/12/16 09:56 PM
1

Ok so imagine this: I watched videks, read books. What I mean by "practicing game" I mean taking notes on stuff, going out and practicing the principles/concepts. It got so bad that I didn't even care about the girl anymore, I only cared about what I was doing right and wrong. This went on for a few months until one day I said "fuck it" and just erased my mind of all those lessons, I deleted the notes, videos etc. ON THAT SAME DAY, I shit you not (I promise I'm not bragging here), a girl I met a…
/r/seduction17/12/16 09:06 PM
1

I don't know. Whenever I go out I just have shitload of fun socializing and making memories with friends.
/r/seduction17/12/16 08:36 PM
3

This is the best post I have ever read since being on seddit for 5+ years
/r/seduction17/12/16 05:33 PM
3

I'm going to tell you something I don't tell people usually. How = Why You asked HOW do you deal with a girl that has her bf around? Instead, ask yourself, WHY do you want to deal with a girl that always has her bf around?
/r/seduction17/12/16 05:26 PM
1

So what do you suggest my next steps be?
/r/seduction17/12/16 05:52 AM
3

Game is simple, not always easy.
/r/seduction15/12/16 04:30 PM
2

Say something like "Excuse me..." and when she looks at you, judge what type of vibe she's giving you with her eye contact. If a girl smiles 😊, I go direct. If she looks at me with curiosity or is very formal (how can I help you?), I will go neutral i.e, "I love your style etc" If she looks at me with a cold, or unsure poker face, 😐, I'll go indirect and quickly transition to neutral conversation.
/r/seduction15/12/16 03:36 PM
1

Use a tester to see what mood she's in before you use your conversation starter.
/r/seduction15/12/16 09:04 AM
1

Use a tester to see what mood she's in before you use your conversation starter.
/r/seduction15/12/16 09:04 AM
3

A lot of guys don't know how to breakdown their references. Separate your notes: (+) means things you did good; (–) means things you did badly. Then write a short paragraph explaining to yourself how you can improve next time. It's very important that you do this only at home.
/r/seduction15/12/16 08:56 AM
1

Exactly my friend!
/r/seduction14/12/16 04:16 PM
1

We still need game though. Make no mistake.
/r/seduction14/12/16 04:09 PM
1

I'm an ENTP too!
/r/seduction14/12/16 01:49 PM
1

I personally never have this issue anymore. I can EASILY outgame all my natural friends like carving through a cake. It's because my game has structure.
/r/seduction14/12/16 01:47 PM
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Neither. Stop over thinking. Just be with one friend and if you happen to see the other introduce them
/r/seduction13/12/16 02:43 PM
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Remember this: Don't introduce people to eachother and EXPECT them ti be like magnets. Be a LEADER. They don't want to meet eachother, they want to be lead. Be a leader, be social, be humorous (ask yourself "am I having fun?")
/r/seduction13/12/16 06:19 AM
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Remember this: Don't introduce people to eachother and EXPECT them ti be like magnets. Be a LEADER. They don't want to meet eachother, they want to be lead. Be a leader, be social, be humorous (ask yourself "am I having fun?")
/r/seduction13/12/16 06:19 AM
1

Your MAIN problems are that you procrastinate, AND you keep calibrating BEFORE the fact.
/r/seduction13/12/16 05:00 AM
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You need to start introducing people to eachother.
/r/seduction13/12/16 04:58 AM
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The more frustrated you get the harder its going to be. I'll give you some tips: • Accept and EMBRACE approach anxiety. • Approach anxiety will NEVER go away, but you get really used to it. • Instead of asking yourself "HOW do I get rid of approach anxiety?" Ask yourself, "WHY do I want to get rid of approach anxiety" • Approach = Open + CALIBRATION (in that order)
/r/seduction11/12/16 03:31 PM
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Im proud of you man! Just a tip, keep your texts equal to lower investment than hers, dont use any punctuation marks (trust me), have good grammer/spelling, and use ";)" the winky fave A LOT!!!
/r/seduction11/12/16 01:33 PM
1

Yeah, just get coffee and walk around, window shop. Make sure you try to hold her hands too.
/r/seduction11/12/16 05:11 AM
2

A statement of empathy can literally be anything thats an excuse for what you did, with a smile of course. Come up with your own to match your personality or just use the example that I gave, it's pretty good.
/r/seduction11/12/16 03:03 AM
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Ok so, When you are physical you will het 1 out of 3 responses: YES>NO>NEUTRAL When you get a YES response (i.e when you touch her, she touches you back, reciprocates your touch) keep escalating as long as there is a YES. When you get a NO response (i.e When you touch her, she seems repulsed, takes a step back.) STOP whatever you're doing, take a step back, say a statement of empathy, and stay in a good mood. When you get a NEUTRAL response (i.e When you touch her, she doesn't shy away from you …
/r/seduction11/12/16 02:44 AM
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You should go to the mall instead. Trust me.
/r/seduction11/12/16 12:52 AM
2

Something like, "Haha, look I'm sorry, I'm just in a good mood!"
/r/seduction10/12/16 09:42 PM
1

Lol pretending to not care, classic reddit.
/r/seduction10/12/16 06:06 PM
1

You must be those beta male type of guys that open indirectly. Nevermind our discussion.
/r/seduction10/12/16 05:47 PM
1

You're still coming from a social circle context. READ: So if I was gay, and I approached you at the mall, would you continue to stand there and converse just because you have NO interest and want to be my friend? Especially when I only want a relationship? Pussy kid, get it.
/r/seduction10/12/16 05:20 PM
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You're coming from a different context. Im coming from the frame that the girl KNOWs your intentions. AND still chooses to stay with you and hang out with you. Use your head kid.
/r/seduction10/12/16 06:06 AM
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Yes. All you have to do is calibrate to her response. If she gives you a NO response all you do is stop wjat you're doing, take a step back, say a statement of empathy and STAY IN A GOOD MOOD
/r/seduction09/12/16 02:00 PM
2

It's not the kiss that's your sticking point. Your sticking point is what you're doing BEFORE the kiss that's why it's so awkward for you. You aren't escalating properly.
/r/seduction09/12/16 01:30 PM
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The biggest IOI a girl can ever give you is that she's still there
/r/seduction09/12/16 01:29 PM
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