RGL137 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
12	The Real Dog Pill	Discussion	RGL137	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 05:50 AM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	Q4W: Those who are with a “HVM” please describe him. Yeah if you have all those things you’re obviously not gonna be working min wage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 05:31 AM
3	redpills and radfems are veeeery similar and both are progressives. hear me out we’re made for each other, to be in love and get married one day, to form a loving family. Love is a beautiful thing https://youtu.be/YaG5SAw1n0c	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 05:29 AM
-1	It is very risky for a woman to be traditional Yeah but as we’re seeing, when women stop needing men, they stop bothering with men altogether. If it weren’t for immigration we would have already demo’d our population with this shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 03:02 AM
3	A growing number of women these days act like actual incels What about that weirdo who shot up the YouTube office?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 02:59 AM
1	You’d be pretty guarded and picky too if everyone from the opposite sex who approached you was trying to penetrate you Am I supposed to just imagine being hounded by women for sex, or are you very specifically hung up on being “penetrated”? Like if you knew men were after you to lick your pussy not penetrate you, would this change everything?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 02:50 AM
6	Unless there are DEEP cultural differences (which is doubtful), “Western women” are fine They’re fat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 02:47 AM
1	How are there enough high value men for all of the women who feel entitled to them? There aren’t, but women just share them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 02:46 AM
1	Newbie Question: Why did Pick Up Artistry become more right wing? Long time ago liberals didn’t have a big problem with generalizing the behaviour of women and there was no such thing as “toxic masculinity”. PUA didn’t change much it’s only seen as right wing now because everything else has gone farther left.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 12:09 AM
2	Q4W: You wake up a man, how long would it take you to have casual sex and how do you go about it Hahaha, the last place I worked in was like half lesbians. Seemed to be a trend with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 10:09 PM
3	Q4W: You wake up a man, how long would it take you to have casual sex and how do you go about it Indeed. I have to summon a lot of willpower and energy to kick ass in a social setting. It’s fun when we I do it, but like you said, I need to crash after and not do it again for a while.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 09:25 PM
5	Q4W: You wake up a man, how long would it take you to have casual sex and how do you go about it Sounds like you’re what they call an “extroverted introvert”. I am too. My cousin is a straight extrovert, he’s a nuclear reactor and thrives in social settings and gets depressed when he’s alone too much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 09:09 PM
9	Q4W: You wake up a man, how long would it take you to have casual sex and how do you go about it Cool answer. I think you’ve touched on an important point that’s relevant to the OP’s overarching point: social confidence is something many men struggle with. I’m not saying you’re only confident because you’re a woman but, many men would definitely not have the confidence to go into a big crowd of strangers and “work the room”. Men who can do this, like my cousin, absolutely clean up. But many men can’t. Not you’re probably thinking “sure but many women can’t either” and I agree. BUT, often wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 09:03 PM
1	Q4W: You wake up a man, how long would it take you to have casual sex and how do you go about it And then one more month to move in, right? 😜	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 08:55 PM
8	Q4W: You wake up a man, how long would it take you to have casual sex and how do you go about it Do you think you’d be carrying over some social confidence you have a as a woman? Would you be less confident? More?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 08:53 PM
2	I think women do have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men as well Sure, I agree. If I lived with a girl I wouldn’t just depend on her being able to cook. If she can’t cook for shit or if she’d rather we take turns, then I can do it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 08:14 PM
1	Q4W: Those who are with a “HVM” please describe him. It is possible for a beta to earn millions but you can’t be an alpha and earn min wage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 06:42 PM
5	How are men supposed to meet women these days? The best way is to be introduced by mutual friends. Every other way is a dice roll and if you do it wrong you’ll get me too’d.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 06:01 PM
1	Age gaps between men and women have been shrinking. How does the Red Pill explain this? That suggests that women don’t have to be AS hypergamous on average but, you still see plenty of women competing for wealthy/attractive men above their “weight class”. Maybe women working and earning their own money has reduced the tendency for the average woman to be hypergamous but, if a woman is attractive enough that she can still engage in it, she will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 05:58 PM
2	I think women do have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men as well It sounds like it probably depends on who in the relationship lived on their own first. Like I live on my own and I’m a bit more OCD in general than most people, even women. Like I had a female friend over here the other day and she was jealous af at how clean and organized my place is. I feel like if a man moves right out of their parents house and in with a woman, sure, they probably will end up expecting the girl to just keep doing what their mom used to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 05:51 PM
1	Sexual loneliness: a neglected public health problem? No he’s a dumbass for thinking winning all the time is “hell”. If that was me, I’d be fucking partying all day every day bitch! Not whining like a bitch that my life is easy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 05:38 PM
1	Q4W: Those who are with a “HVM” please describe him. I worked with people who landed here five months ago as refugees and make as much money as I do. Just don’t be a beta.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 05:36 PM
5	Q4W: Those who are with a “HVM” please describe him. Sure if you don’t like buying anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 06:34 AM
1	Q4W: Those who are with a “HVM” please describe him. Interesting. I guess unicorns do exist after all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 06:33 AM
2	For more traditionally minded men, dating other cultures should be more mainstreamed and acceptable I also have a low “body count”, at least relative to my age. I tend to like religious women from the east (Europe, or Asia) because they seem closer to their families and aren’t as in as big a hurry to move out of their home or resent them and treat them like shit. Seems like every hardcore atheist zoomer chick I meet hates their parents, especially their dads.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 06:32 AM
3	Q4W: Those who are with a “HVM” please describe him. Red pill would encourage men to not be a beta making min wage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 06:25 AM
-1	Q4W: Those who are with a “HVM” please describe him. Serious but mean sounding question: are you reasonably physically attractive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 06:24 AM
1	For more traditionally minded men, dating other cultures should be more mainstreamed and acceptable Wrong. I’m saying I don’t want to date some fundie whose entire life revolves around religion, but it’s nice if the girl retains a few good habits like, for example, not being a raging sl00t, or actually caring about their own family.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 06:24 AM
1	Q4W: Those who are with a “HVM” please describe him. I’m just saying after leaving you could have traded in that beta male for a red blooded man who earns real money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 06:20 AM
-4	Q4W: Those who are with a “HVM” please describe him. Sounds tough but shouldn’t you have moved to another country and then found a dude who makes more money?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 06:01 AM
3	Q4W: Those who are with a “HVM” please describe him. Your dude makes below min wage? Is he 15 years old?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 05:36 AM
1	Sexual loneliness: a neglected public health problem? He sounds like a fucking dumbass.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 05:19 AM
0	Age gaps between men and women have been shrinking. How does the Red Pill explain this? No, they’re not marrying someone “their own age” in the sense that they’re specifically going for someone their own age. They’re still going for the same men: older, more established men. They’re just waiting longer before doing it. In the past a woman had to marry when they’re younger because they didn’t have the same opportunities they do now. But they’re still ultimately interested in the same types of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 05:18 AM
4	I think women do have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men as well Well yeah, that’s not exactly what I meant lol. Like sure my mom wiped my ass when I was young but I’ve never exactly had the expectation of women waiting on me hand and foot. In my experience the expectation is usually the other way around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 04:39 AM
3	CMV: An abundance mentality is delusional when there is no actual abundance A lot of times having a prospect is exciting for a man, so we can sometimes get a little too invested too early. It’s hard to pretend to be aloof. The only times I’ve ever been genuinely aloof and didn’t have to pretend was when I was young and was routinely dating multiple women at once. Basically, if you currently have an abundance of anything you’ll naturally care less about any one of it. What’s a single dollar bill to a millionaire?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 04:35 AM
2	Sexual loneliness: a neglected public health problem? That’s because “technology” does not yet include hyper realistic sexbot waifus. When it does, things will look different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 04:32 AM
1	Age gaps between men and women have been shrinking. How does the Red Pill explain this? Probably because women don’t have to marry so young anymore. They can spend their 20s travelling or working and THEN marry a high value 30+ year old man (who is now closer to her age). It’s not like modern women are marrying zoomer brokies working at Starbucks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 04:22 AM
3	I think women do have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men as well How do I become one?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 04:19 AM
1	I think women do have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men as well Yeah. I think also in her case she believed it was because everyone liked her, she thought she was legit such a cool and fun person that people just wanted to be around her or help her out of good will. She was a fun chick, one of my best friends at the time, but nowhere near on the level she thought if not for her appearance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 01:39 AM
2	I think women do have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men as well The girl I was thinking about in my example, I think she was a mix of both. I think she knew some guys simped for her but I think she wasn’t fully aware of the extent men in general simped for her, or why.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 01:24 AM
4	There are two identical twin sisters. Both are gorgeous. The single mom. Her last relationship maybe didn’t work but at least she’s clearly serious about starting a family, and is less likely to cheat with some Chad on the side. Gotta kill the kid tho unfortunately.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 12:35 AM
1	For more traditionally minded men, dating other cultures should be more mainstreamed and acceptable Gotta date a girl who was raised Catholic but doesn’t really give a shit about it anymore but still habitually retains some of the values.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 12:08 AM
5	I think women do have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men as well It’s not even necessarily overt assistance. Like people tend to think the point I’m making is claiming that men are like pampering women and treating them like gold. It’s often more subtle. At my last job, for example, supervisors were easier on the hotter women when they messed up. They were also less likely to assign them physically hard or dangerous tasks. Something like that is pretty subtle and hard to notice, especially if you’re just going about your life like normal. Then you’re just exp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 12:05 AM
1	What do men actually find attractive in a woman's personality? Basically just a woman who is nice. I like bubbly/feminine personalities, women who are basically enjoying life almost constantly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 06:27 PM
1	For more traditionally minded men, dating other cultures should be more mainstreamed and acceptable Dating foreign cultures is based. More specifically try dating a woman who is religious to some degree. Not a full on bible thumping fanatic or anything just one that has some core values. Hedonistic atheists are brutal unless all you care about is getting laid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 06:26 PM
15	I think women do have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men as well It might not even believe a conscious sense of entitlement. They’ve just lived their whole lives experiencing men do things for them and have come to expect that that’s the standard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 06:25 PM
5	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). That just goes to show you have absolutely skewed OF is because statistically only 1% of women have boobs bigger than D let alone DD or DDD. No wonder there’s an absolutely crisis in reasonable expectations (for both men and women tbqh).	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 05:09 AM
1	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). It will be when the great incel rebellion happens and you get forced into a harem. Haha jk that won’t happen….probably.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 05:08 AM
3	Yes he may be a great guy who will provide and care and nurture, but if having sex with him is literally a painful and repulsive ordeal HOW is that ever going to work? Happiness in a marriage is a coin toss according to surveys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 05:07 AM
2	Yes he may be a great guy who will provide and care and nurture, but if having sex with him is literally a painful and repulsive ordeal HOW is that ever going to work? Average age on Reddit is 23, these people don’t even know what being an adult feels like yet, lol. Shit I was still a naive optimist until I was almost 30.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 05:06 AM
2	Yes he may be a great guy who will provide and care and nurture, but if having sex with him is literally a painful and repulsive ordeal HOW is that ever going to work? Most? Sexlessness has increased significantly for men but stayed the same for women. Suggests that HVM are just forming neo-harems, which is obvious when you see how OLD and hookup dynamics typically work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 05:05 AM
2	Yes he may be a great guy who will provide and care and nurture, but if having sex with him is literally a painful and repulsive ordeal HOW is that ever going to work? They just fuck hot dudes on the side.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 05:03 AM
2	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). I love any woman who weighs less than I do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 05:01 AM
3	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). The point is it’s not an even exchange, it’s a cutthroat competition. It’s just naive to believe that every man and woman is pairing off perfectly with their equal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:59 AM
3	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). You said you have triple D’s. Even if you were fat, that would put you in the top 1% of women in terms of breast size. And if you were not fat, it would be even tinier. So if it’s true, why are you not making like 10K a month on OF?? Or…are you? Link?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:58 AM
2	The 1950s housewife trope is just that. A trope. And it should be ignored because of it. Ukrainian women moved to Poland, sponged off Polish social services, and probably went and fucked a bunch of Polish men, while Ukrainian men stayed back and got blasted with artillery. But hey women have it so bad bro did you hear that like sometimes a man will whistle at a girl when she walks by? Crazy’	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:53 AM
5	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). Yes it is, dummy. I’ve been out of my mom’s basement and lived in Japan where they shame fat people AND almost no one is even fat. It was great. Amerifats are off the charts in their insanely impulsive, shortsighted, gluttonous, hedonistic behaviour.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:52 AM
2	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). Yeah but reality doesn’t work like that. Men and women don’t all get in a big line and pair off with their perfect match. Everyone competes for the highest value men/women, and women do this even more egregiously than men do. There’s a giant subset of men who basically have no real chance of getting a girlfriend or a wife. About a quarter of men 40-50 years old have no kids, so these mofos couldn’t even knock up a bitch let alone lock one down. Insane numbers of men are out there who basically j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:50 AM
7	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). Because if you’re obese there’s nothing positive about your body, except that the numbers on the scale are positively massive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:46 AM
2	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). He’s talking about the retarded fat acceptance movement that’s geared almost exclusively towards validating fat women and shaming men for not liking them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:46 AM
4	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). Lol every woman on Reddit claims they’re some ultra beautiful high earning genius woman…yet they’re on Reddit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:45 AM
6	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). Women typically won’t be honest if their honesty would put them at risk of being unpopular in whatever group they’re trying to fit in with. They don’t like to stir the pot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:44 AM
4	This is why women have become more choosy (from the perspective of studies and experiments). But men are shamed for having preferences for a women’s physical features, even ones they can control, like their weight. At least men being butthurt about the height thing makes sense because a man can’t change his height. But women get butthurt about men not wanting fatties when all they have to do is stop eating so much fuckin food.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:42 AM
1	Bumble, Tinder, Hinge & dating apps are destroying America Social media combined with fatness, I think. 80% of both men and women are overweight, meaning only 20% of women are not fat. Of those 20%, probably only half or less are also attractive on top of not being fat. So you’ve got like what, 5-10% of women in the country who are actually physically attractive? Then they go online and every man in the universe wants to date them. Good luck. When I lived in Japan I found it was a lot easier to date because you could just date an average looking chick a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/23 04:16 AM
7	Creeps and a-holes keep hitting on women because sometimes they get results. A guy who's respectful will be seen as boring or not even noticed. Another factor is that men who do “creepy” things might not always make the same mistakes or come off as creepy to certain women. I remember when I was young and more actively involved in dating and trying to meet women, there were definitely times when I’d screw up and I bet those women told all their friends that I was some loser creep. But sometimes I said or did the right thing at the right time and that woman was receptive. People tend to talk too much like everything is cut and dry. I’m su…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 11:51 PM
1	The Real Dog Pill You can lose like 15 pounds pretty easily though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:09 PM
1	The 1950s housewife trope is just that. A trope. And it should be ignored because of it. Sure, but the machine exists for the purpose of supporting all the men who will be fighting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 10:08 PM
3	The 1950s housewife trope is just that. A trope. And it should be ignored because of it. By equal I meant the same exact things. So for example a woman busy raising children can’t hunt for food or fight in a battle, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 09:16 PM
0	The 1950s housewife trope is just that. A trope. And it should be ignored because of it. They’re certainly going to be the ones holding the bag when real shit goes down. Women can do important work but they’re not fucking saving you from the Mongol hordes/Nazis/Russians/aliens/zombies/etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 08:25 AM
0	The Real Dog Pill Maybe true but I’d say my “list of expectations” is far less reliant on a woman’s social status, wealth, education, stuff like that, and is far more reliant on her personality, looks, and values.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 08:01 AM
6	The 1950s housewife trope is just that. A trope. And it should be ignored because of it. It’s because OP isn’t taking into consideration the fact that men tended to dominate ancient societies because most old societies had some form of warrior caste that was primarily men. Also explorers were almost exclusively men. So, men would either be away from the home fighting, raiding, or exploring for long periods of time, leaving the woman in the homemaker role. Now in those days a “homemaker” may not have been a dainty little housewife like in the 50s, and lower class women definitely wou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 07:57 AM
4	Everyone blames the men in age gap relationships, but women keep participating in them. Good. It’s too fundamentally in opposition with human nature to possibly be true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 07:33 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill I also have several male friends and a couple platonic female friends, but nothing alleviates the sense of loneliness like a nice girlfriend. Idk if it’s just me or many men but, there’s a big difference for me/us between the companionship you have with your bros vs your gf. Male friendships are more like brotherhoods. But men also like the softer side of companionship that you typically only get from a woman. Like I’m sure as fuck not gonna snuggle up with my best bro and watch Netflix. I’ll dr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 07:24 AM
0	The Real Dog Pill Well, that’s fairly based I suppose. But also suppose a man was a pro at domestic stuff? I mean not to brag but, when I’m not pissing or shitting on the floor, my condo is cleaner than 90% of the places I’ve ever been to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 07:13 AM
1	How difficult is it to date after college? Particularly if college dating was not great for you. In my personal experience, very hard, but likely because my fields of work were very male dominated so I didn’t have many opportunities to meet women. Mostly just used OLD which is garbage as fuck. Take advantage when you’re in school.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 07:08 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill When’s the last time your dog was drunk as fuck?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 07:05 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill I just think it’s funny how differently men vs women perceive stay at home partners (both having them and being one).	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 07:05 AM
3	The Real Dog Pill It sounds to me that you (maybe all women?) don’t really value the companionship aspect of a relationship very much compared to how men value it with women. Sure it might be a plus factor but it sounds like you’re fine completely on your own with your pets and/or hookups. I wonder how/why that is. As far as I know, women are a social species just like men are, yet they seem to have no problems abstaining from any and all contact with men if they want. Is it just our culture? Is it because social…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 07:02 AM
3	The Real Dog Pill And you’re saying women are more likely than men to meet all of these standards? Well, I guess I’ve only ever dated all the remaining women lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:59 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill Even the best dogs have an accident sometimes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:56 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill Well what the fuck, when women stayed home they said they were doing tons of (unpaid) work, but when I want to stay home I’m called lazy? That’s ass. I would have even swept and done laundry, literally the hardest jobs in the world. All you’d have to do is bust your ass at a brutal job all day to pay for everything. You’re really telling me you’d pass that up??	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:56 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill You don’t have to have kids, we can be DINKs. Apparently women are happier without kids anyway so we might as well just travel the world and leave the breeding for the poors in Africa.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:49 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill I disagree. Why does a woman have to make the same money as me for us to have a healthy relationship? Or the same hobbies or same numbers of hobbies, etc? If we get along well and love each other isn’t that enough? What happened to romance? Does everything have to be a transaction?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:46 AM
3	The Real Dog Pill Sure but my original point (aside from the tongue in cheek aspects) is that women’s expectations for pets are low because a pet’s love and affection is enough for them. But for men, they tend to have a huge list of practical expectations that men have to meet, whereas men typically just want a nice woman they get along with. Rarely do I ever meet a man with a laundry list of expectations for a woman’s personality, career, hobbies, etc. we tend to be happy enough to just meet a nice woman we like…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:44 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill That’s basically the same standards as me, then. My original post was in response to someone else’s post where they had a giant list of expectations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:42 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill Agreed. A lot of times women love the fact that their dog “loves” them unconditionally but hate the fact that other humans judge them for their actual character.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:41 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill They’re pretty easy to satisfy though. Basically we just have to get along and be heading in a similar life direction. That’s pretty simple to satisfy if you meet someone like minded. I certainly don’t care if she’s making tons of money or is the most interesting girl in the world with some cool or unique hobbies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:40 AM
0	The Real Dog Pill I can handle that shit though. I don’t need a woman for financial reasons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:39 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill Actually one time I was drunk as fuck and pissed on my gf of the time’s floor and she cleaned it up 🤣. I guess I had nothing to complain about after all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:37 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill People have to put more effort into being cute, fun, and loyal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:36 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill All of those things would affect the “fun” condition. If we’re conflicted over life decisions, it wouldn’t be much fun would it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:35 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill In the eye of the beholder, I suppose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:34 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill That’s because you’re not cute. Sorry to break it to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:33 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill You’re saying I can’t be an emotional support husband? What a rip.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:33 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill And what standards are those?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:32 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill That’s just because fewer and fewer people are willing to actually put any real effort into relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:31 AM
3	The Real Dog Pill Nope, you don’t. Every failed relationship I’ve been in that wasn’t my fault (probably about half of them) failed because one of those three things were lacking. I never dumped a girl because of her hobbies or how much money she made. Not cute = no sexual attraction = dead bedroom. Not fun = can’t stand being around each other. Not loyal = speaks for itself. Anything else is incidental or irrelevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:30 AM
2	The Real Dog Pill Why though? Couldn’t you just get a stay at home husband? Men had stay at home wives for many generations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:28 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill Imagine thinking having a cute, fun, and loyal girl to spend your time with is “low standards”. Maybe I just don’t treat relationships like some business arrangement where she needs to provide me with some laundry list of bullshit?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:26 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill They’re not. What exactly do you think relationships are supposed to be about? Your statement outlines exactly the difference between how men and women view romance: men want to love and be loved, women want to benefit in some practical way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:25 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill It’s not about being “jealous” it’s recognizing the low opinion modern western women have towards men. I’ve never had this issue dating foreigners or non-whites tbh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:24 AM
3	The Real Dog Pill That’s the ultimate point I’m trying to make.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:22 AM
6	Everyone blames the men in age gap relationships, but women keep participating in them. If that’s true, it suggest that possibly the longest and most important biological imperative of all (procreation and family building) is less meaningful and fulfilling to women than working some lame job and doing frivolous materialistic crap. I’m actually legitimately depressed as fuck now, this culture is in utter ruins.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:20 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill This post was semi tongue in cheek but I do agree. Our culture has bred a ton of resentment and animosity between people and there’s been a clear up trend of people (men and women but primarily women) who clearly use pets as a substitute for a would-be human relationship. It isn’t just women either. I worked with a dude who only gave a shit about his dog and said it was his “son”. Hadn’t dated a girl properly in years. Shits fucking weird, I need to date a Muslim (they don’t often like dogs lol)…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:14 AM
1	The Real Dog Pill I don’t have different standards for a pet vs a woman. Like I said, I look for the exact same traits: cute, fun, loyal. Women are the ones who have a laundry list of expectations for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:12 AM
0	The Real Dog Pill Yeah well men would be loyal too if you wiped our asses and fed us every day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:10 AM
0	Everyone blames the men in age gap relationships, but women keep participating in them. Check the rates of depression for single women in their mid to late thirties. It’s, well, depressing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 05:52 AM
–	This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective). I was arguing with one of my best female friends about this sort of thing once and I accused her of not being logical or consistent in her choice of men, and she said, “when did I ever say anything about being logical”? Pretty funny and salient convo, tbh. She knew her rules changed like the wind and didn’t give a fuck. Respect at least for owning it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 05:44 AM
–	This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective). It’s hard to figure out who women lie to more: other people, or themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 05:33 AM
–	This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective). Like fighting for your countries. Most of the people who fled Ukraine were women and children. Funny how stronk and independent women are when they’re doing some easy make work job in a fake economy, but suddenly when you get invaded by a hostile foreign country, being a “diversity manager” doesn’t mean jack anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 05:27 AM
1	Everyone blames the men in age gap relationships, but women keep participating in them. It’s because women were lied to and told that real value is in working some lame corporate job till you’re 35 and they realize they fucked up and want a family but no HVM wants to date them anymore. So they seethe and cope by accusing men of being pedos or whatever. Not our fault you burned your best years working some lame job no one gave a shit about except the HNIC you were making rich.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 05:24 AM
1	Study shows average age of conception throughout human history aligns with men having higher SMV later in life. Indeed, I doubt 60 year old women are dating 30 year old men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 05:17 AM
0	Study shows average age of conception throughout human history aligns with men having higher SMV later in life. “Closer to their age” doesn’t mean younger. They’re still dating 30 year old men according to that study.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 05:07 AM
2	Study shows average age of conception throughout human history aligns with men having higher SMV later in life. Not in H&G societies. They didn’t have the resources and tech necessary to be that picky so men and women shared a lot of roles and tribes were pretty close knit without much in the way of hierarchical breakdowns. It’s likely they still had some gender roles given men being bigger and stronger than women (so men probably did more hunting and fighting), but generally speaking you can’t look at H&G the way we look at the agrarian age, feudal age, and later.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 03:57 AM
-1	Study shows average age of conception throughout human history aligns with men having higher SMV later in life. I don’t think that would apply to our ancestors 250K years ago. They were fairly egalitarian compared to more modern societies. It’s likely if women were procreating with older men back then there was a good, practical reason for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 03:53 AM
2	If it were more normalized for men and women to be friends, subs like this wouldn’t exist I feel like there’s this weird horseshoe effect between people that have zero experience in a subject and people who have tons of experience in a subject. I’ve definitely had my fair share of relationships, platonic and romantic, with women, that have shaped many of my views. It’s possible I might share opinions with “incels” or people who have no experience from time to time, but I can’t explain that other than intuition is correct sometimes? Haha.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 03:50 AM
1	Men are annoyed with women,but women are afraid of the potential of the collective power of men. Indeed. The only people panicking about birth rates are shareholders and people who get rich off the unsustainable infinite growth economic model. I would imagine that average joe men give about the least shits possible since a single man needs like a tiny box and some McDonald’s to survive. If the current economy collapses due to women not having kids and the population declining, it will mostly be women crying about it not men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 11:25 PM
-1	For the men who follow Tate, do you believe that you have the same strengths as Tate? Do you live up to his standards? I like Andrew Tate because I think he’s charismatic and a good motivator. If I watch an Andrew Tate video before going to the gym, I’ll usually feel more pumped up. He also has some genuinely good videos where he talks about being a better person and accomplishing good things in life. He also thinks highly of paternal and maternal figures, see any video where he talks about his dad or his grandmother. I don’t necessarily agree with everything he says and I don’t want to emulate his lifestyle but…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 10:37 PM
1	Men are annoyed with women,but women are afraid of the potential of the collective power of men. Are you under the impression a man can’t wipe a baby’s ass? The one and only thing women can do that men can’t is get pregnant and birth a child. But the same can’t be said about women, because women, on average, can’t do many of the jobs men can do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 10:29 PM
1	Men are annoyed with women,but women are afraid of the potential of the collective power of men. Lmao @ “free labour”. Who the hell is going to pay you to wipe your own ass or change your own kids’ diapers? The only one in a position to pay you for that, if anyone, is the man, who is working an actual job and earning money/resources that enable you to stay at home and do the dishes and shit in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 10:27 PM
0	Men are annoyed with women,but women are afraid of the potential of the collective power of men. Sure: https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2000/feb/wk3/art03.htm Women labor force participation was significantly lower in the 1950s yet 1950s econ was great, arguably better per person than it is now. Adding women to the labor force definitely increases overall productive output, but that excess is just accumulated by the elite class. When you look at the fundamentals of an economy, the things actually required to live and prosper, men can handle the vast majority of those industries alone. For examp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 07:45 PM
1	Men are annoyed with women,but women are afraid of the potential of the collective power of men. Sure they exist there’s just not many of them and they’re arguably worse at their jobs (female police officers more likely to use weapons, female firefighters can’t carry a heavy person out of a building as easy, etc). You say it’s the “same the other way around” but in the past far fewer women worked and we had perfectly functional economies and societies. There’s never been a functional system where men don’t do the brunt of the hard work (labour, agriculture, military, etc).	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 07:37 PM
1	Is dating women who are taller/fitter/more sucessful/more ambitious emasculating? Generally speaking, when I feel more “alpha” it’s around softer spoken men who are physically smaller/weaker than I am, and less socially confident. When I feel like a beta it’s usually around high value, successful, charismatic, and confident men (more so than me anyway).	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 07:35 PM
1	Men are annoyed with women,but women are afraid of the potential of the collective power of men. It’s not two different arguments because the resources people rely on from the government come from the fruits of men’s labour. So even if a man is also reliant on the system, that just means they’re reliant on other men. There are definitely exceptions but overall, collectively, women rely on men. The only thing men truly need women for is population growth. If we could just clone ourselves we’d have no need for women. Women on the other hand could get by without men for a while but the second …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 07:29 PM
0	Men are annoyed with women,but women are afraid of the potential of the collective power of men. I don’t think women are afraid of men collectivizing, but women are afraid of losing the ability to control men and extract resources from them. A few women in this thread have mentioned the idea that they don’t need men. Lol of course they do. A man built the house they live in, men defend the country they live in, if someone breaks into their house they’re going to call a male police officer to save them, if they need money they’re going to go to the government which reallocates resources from…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 08:18 AM
2	Men are annoyed with women,but women are afraid of the potential of the collective power of men. Women are just supplementing their social desires with pet causes like social justice bullshit or actual pets. They also still get all the practical benefits from men since they receive a ton of government support and other shit that’s just male resources reallocated to them. Men are actually capable of being genuinely alone and self sufficient, most women aren’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 08:13 AM
1	Is dating women who are taller/fitter/more sucessful/more ambitious emasculating? Possibly. I believe that everything is extremely relative and we judge our status based on whatever our environment is. For example, when I’m hanging out with certain friends, I’m the “alpha” (more charismatic, physically imposing, confident, etc than they are), but with other groups, I’m more of a “beta” because I’m outclassed by other men in the group. I think this works with women as well. If I dated a woman who was tall, strong, financially successful, etc, then I would feel less “masculine”…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 08:10 AM
0	It shouldn't be anyone's responsibility to maintain their partner's standard of cleanliness unless there has been an equivalent exchange If men aren’t happy, it’s men’s problem. If women aren’t happy, it’s men’s problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 08:06 AM
2	How do men without accomplishments get confidence? You don’t. You have to get accomplishments first then you get confidence from them. But, the problem is, like most things in society these days, nothing is proportional anymore. So even if you accomplish quite a bit, women can just go on social media and find a man out of the millions that are on there who ones you up. In the past you had a better shot of being the big fish in a small pond because you mostly just competed against people in your immediate surroundings. Now we live in a globalize,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 08:04 AM
1	Men on this sub are obsessed with young women because of rejection wounds, not biology Just so we’re on the same page, you don’t think that younger women are more fertile than older women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/23 11:22 PM
0	would you lose interest in your man if he lost in a fight to alpha Chad Louis CK did a hilarious skit on this where he got bullied by a jock and the woman he was with said logically she understands he did the right thing but on some primal level she thought he was a pussy. It’s just a sketch but I think there’s truth to it. It’s not like women will publicly admit they’d feel that way but if a woman says watching their man get smoked doesn’t effect their level of attraction, they’re obviously lying. Unless you’re attracted to not being protected, I guess. Some kind o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/23 07:59 PM
16	Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men. Die.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/23 07:56 PM
0	Women are rude to men without consequences The world is an exceptionally violent place that proves my point more than anything lol. You might not be a woman physically but mentally you sure are lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 01:52 AM
1	I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters. Lol yeah, the middle class just works hard for everyone and gets not much in return. No “adversary” at all there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 01:49 AM
1	Women are rude to men without consequences I know you’re a woman and therefore live in a bubble, but the world outside is a drastically different place than Reddit would have you believe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 01:47 AM
1	I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters. They’re pretty much directly connected anyway. It’s not wealthy men who are “incels”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 01:45 AM
0	Women are rude to men without consequences Okay, men do fight each other all the time ya pedantic nerd. From a young age boys are physical with each other. Literally spend five mins googling it, sociological studies show that men fight all the time not only for practical reasons but also because they simply enjoy it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 01:37 AM
-1	Women are rude to men without consequences No it’s not. “Fighting” isn’t just killing each other like women think. Men are physical a lot, it just rarely results in serious injury or criminal charges.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 01:29 AM
2	I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters. That’s true now but it’ll change if the trends continue. Same idea as the economy. If only the dumbest losers are poor, it’s no problem. But if society degrades to the point where even normal hard working people can’t afford a living, that’s what leads to revolt. Same idea in dating/social issues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 01:21 AM
1	Women are rude to men without consequences Men fight each other all the time lol. It’s such a Reddit brained thing to think everything is one extreme or the other. Men get into physical altercations they just typically aren’t excessive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 01:15 AM
7	Women are rude to men without consequences You’d have to be a woman to believe that men kicking each other’s ass is in any way accurately reflected in crime stats. Especially in poor/inner city communities lol, people don’t snitch. You take your lumps and get on with your life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 01:13 AM
1	Question for the women. Two words: Angeles City.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 01:08 AM
3	Not tonight honey… I had this discussion in another thread but, think about how much women love their dogs. They’ll bend over backwards to take care of their dogs, up to and including picking up its shit with her hands. All in exchange for nothing other than “companionship”. If your girl isn’t putting any effort into making you happy, she just don’t like you. Simple as.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 12:15 AM
1	Men on this sub are obsessed with young women because of rejection wounds, not biology No doubt, I feel like a grandpa already and I’m only 31.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/23 12:13 AM
2	Mathematically speaking, if there aren’t enough high value men to date what will the “average woman” do? True but since women also have the option to not bother at all, as you mentioned, it will probably get fairly high. Fortunately men have sexbot waifus to look forward to though so maybe the future will just be a bunch of socially stunted weirdos relying on technology for all of their social needs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 04:18 AM
2	I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters. Damn. Well, you live near the GTA? Lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 03:24 AM
6	Men being Insecure over sex toys I agree with you. Like if I said I needed alcohol or cigarettes to have a good night out, you’d think I have a problem right? If a woman is having trouble getting off in the bedroom she probably just needs to work with the dude more and they both can learn and figure out what needs to change in order for her to enjoy herself. If her immediate reaction is to just use a toy to satisfy herself (not talking about mutually shared kinks or fetishes btw, talking about her supplementing the normal sex),…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 03:22 AM
0	Men being Insecure over sex toys It’s only natural. Wait to see how women react when we whip out the Waifu 3000 sexbot and she sees it do the one thing she’ll never be able to do: shut the fuck up for five minutes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 03:19 AM
10	Mathematically speaking, if there aren’t enough high value men to date what will the “average woman” do? Share high value men. Make no mistake, monogamy is effectively dead as high value men establish pseudo-harems through various arrangements (mistresses, FWB, social media, etc). It’s not out in the open like official polygamy is but average women end up as side chicks to HVM in one way or another. Once an average hoe gets even a taste of HVM they will never go back, they’d rather share Brad Pitt than marry you or me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 03:16 AM
3	I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters. Indeed I agree, which is what largely changed when the “middle class” was established and when monogamy became extremely religiously and culturally enforced. In this more modern era, the “peasants” were now middle class workers who were all but guaranteed decent paying jobs and a wife and kids if they did the bare minimum (worked and followed the rules). Now we have a society where even men who work hard and follow the rules are fucked, both economically and in dating/marriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 03:13 AM
5	I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters. I disagree because men only started giving a big shit about that in the modern day (as a result of the societal enforced monogamy I mentioned). In the past, elite men would just form harems of women, monogamy wasn’t an official thing (although pair bonding did happen it was more of a relationship of convenience or status than anything planned or enforced). There were/are still pseudo harems among the elites but, they had to hide them. That’s why exposing a cheating president or celebrity is know…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 03:05 AM
1	Unironically, the more young men that become sexless the more a political anarco capitalist revolution approaches the horizon and the more close society is to abolish the state as a consequence of radical individualism fueled by sex starvation People recognize this type of problem in economics (was a basis for Marx’s main arguments against capitalism, agree with him or not he had a good point there), but for some reason are completely blind to it for social issues. The thing is, it IS true that losers are going to lose and some people just genuinely can’t get a woman because they’re a piece of shit, just the way some people can’t get jobs because they’re lazy, irresponsible idiots. But the problem isn’t that those people exist, the pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 03:00 AM
10	I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters. They were loyal in the sense that if they hoed around they’d probably suffer some serious consequences. Human relationships have never and will never be ideal or perfect but, people at one time understood the value of monogamy and ensuring the average man had a strong chance of securing a family. Right now it’s not so bad because most “incels” are weak losers. But what happens if/when stronger, more competent men start finding it impossible to succeed? It’s like the social version of Marx’s pred…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 02:52 AM
8	Are the gender dynamics/dating nowadays as bad as this sub makes it seem? I doubt it, most men aren’t on Reddit whether they’re single or not. The average age on Reddit is 23 meaning most posters here are probably idealistic liberals, which means they’ll tend to support the “it’s not so bad” mindset more on average. All the jaded, terminally single oldfags like me are wallowing in their depression at some bar or over a pack of cigarettes. I’m just an exception.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 02:49 AM
18	I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters. Yeah but the problem with using the nature argument here is that in nature animals compete in an all out fashion and the winners are the ones that are able to often literally fight for the “right” to procreate with the desirable females. The problem is we decided to have a civilized society and didn’t want men to be smashing each other’s faces in or dragging women away to a cave to rape them anymore. One way we figured out how to do this was ensuring, largely through religious and cultural insti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 02:31 AM
28	Are the gender dynamics/dating nowadays as bad as this sub makes it seem? It’s even worse. 40% of American men are single. Almost half the male population. Now sure you could argue some of that is voluntary or some men are just between relationships. But no matter how you spin it, millions of men are single and struggling to get in (meaningful, long term) relationships with women. In any discussion like this you’ll always experience a version of survivorship bias because people will come out of the woodwork on Reddit to talk about their amazing, successful dating live…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 02:24 AM
1	Desperate women Arec dating down. You hit the nail on the head. Women have pets and children for affection or companionship. Men are just resources to women. Any romance or enjoyment a woman has with a man in a relationship is purely incidental. For any woman who disagrees, let me ask you: if your bf/husband quit his job tomorrow and never did anything to take care of himself ever again, but he was the nicest person ever and showered you with endless love and affection, would you keep him?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 02:04 AM
3	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? You opinion on its own is worthless though. If all your contribution just boils down to you wish something was a certain way, that’s nice for playing make belief. But what in reality would actually make it happen? What would make a woman make the first moves? Why would she do it? What could men or society or whoever do to facilitate that happening? Put something of actual substance forward not just your pointless fantasies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 02:00 AM
1	Desperate women Arec dating down. Lmao it’s true bro. I’m not saying I agree with the “dog pill” but there’s absolutely something fundamentally broken about our dating culture and how women view men and relationships when a woman is willing to take care of an animal every day up to and including picking up its turds with her hands, but she views treating a man well as a burden or being oppressed. Bullshit, you just don’t like us. If a woman doesn’t want to do things for you and make you happy in exchange for your affection then …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 01:50 AM
2	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? What would make women do it? Who cares if you think they “should” do it? I think every hot woman should jump on my dick, that doesn’t mean they will unless they have a reason to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 01:39 AM
11	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? Sure but men are still expected to make that first move, even if they’re bad at it. If women aren’t really willing to put effort into an opener on a dating app what makes you think they’d put any effort into it in real life?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 01:19 AM
0	Identifying as “Involuntary” anything means you have a victim mentality Robot waifus will save us.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 01:18 AM
4	Identifying as “Involuntary” anything means you have a victim mentality I agree with you in principle but like in all areas of life, the “losers” of society will never just take it lying down. If you’re a loser you’re probably going to resent the world and everyone for not being losers, and you also probably have less to lose. This is one of the many reasons poorer people tend to be criminals or do reckless, impulsive shit, for example. Throughout history the ruling class has always acknowledge that losers will never take losing in good faith, so they always concoct…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 01:04 AM
24	Do women believe that men not approaching is a lack of interest? Bumble pretty much shit on the notion that women-led dating could ever be a thing. Even in a controlled environment where women were forced to make the first move, they just scammed it by saying “hey” and then waiting for you to make the proper opener.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 01:00 AM
2	Desperate women Arec dating down. You’d think more women would date down considering how popular pets are with women. Pets are a complete burden in every way except for companionship. It’s funny to me how women will grill you and tell you they’re not looking to be someone’s “mommy” just because you want them to cook dinner, but they’re more than willing to pick up their dog’s shit every day in exchange for nothing except empty validation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 12:53 AM
1	Men on this sub are obsessed with young women because of rejection wounds, not biology That’s a more recent development. For most of human history the average man reproduced at around 29 and the average woman around 22.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 12:42 AM
1	Men on this sub are obsessed with young women because of rejection wounds, not biology How many biology textbooks would one need to read to know that young women are more fertile than older women, and then make obvious inferences from that plus the fact that husbands have always been older than wives on average for all of human history?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 12:41 AM
1	Men on this sub are obsessed with young women because of rejection wounds, not biology Any woman older than 35 is a grandmother.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 12:34 AM
2	Besides sex, do you even like women? Doubt. I’d say most relationships probably come from convenience and the need for companionship. Do you really think all the people dating uggos thought they were hot when they first met them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 12:30 AM
1	Women look for traditional gender values in a man even when they claim otherwise Women just want their cake and eat it too. I had this conversation with one of my closest female friends and another mutual friend once. She had an ideal man in mind, basically a giga chad, tall, handsome, charismatic, high earner, etc. but, she also said she wanted him to be nice and loyal and in touch with his emotions, etc. What she doesn’t realize is that many traits have cause and effect relationships with other components of a person’s personality and lifestyle. So it’s pretty unlikely an …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 06:19 PM
6	What do you think about foreveralonewomen community on reddit? They’re either lying, exceptionally ugly, or have astronomical standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 06:05 PM
2	Sexual Emancipation Equality What I really wish was de-stigmatized is sex tourism. Obviously not the fucked up underage kind but I don’t see what the problem is if a man goes to Cuba or the Philippines and cleans house. Why be a peasant at home when you could be a king over there?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 06:04 PM
-1	Besides sex, do you even like women? Yeah but they’re having sex with uggos.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 03:42 PM
1	Besides sex, do you even like women? I’ve never had a problem with women but I can’t see them as equals most of the time. Every woman I’ve had as a boss, I’ve not respected or feared the same way as a man. It’s just nature I think. A woman simply isn’t as imposing or commanding as a man (on average, obviously there would be some exceptions). It’s also hard to see women as equals when they’re typically so much physically weaker. Intellectually sure I think women are equal, there’s plenty of smart women out there and I also think wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 03:36 PM
6	Do you think mothers are confused as to why their now grown nice guy son has yet to find a partner? Dunno but mothers are not good at raising sons. Taking care of? Yes. But raising? Terrible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 03:33 PM
16	Men on this sub are obsessed with young women because of rejection wounds, not biology That’s like saying some people are suicidal therefore survival isn’t a biological imperative. I’m not really concerned with random outliers. We’re here today because millions/billions of men married young, fertile women and procreated. That’s clearly the imperative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/23 03:06 AM
3	Men on this sub are obsessed with young women because of rejection wounds, not biology Yeah but modern young men aren’t marriage material. They’re eating tidepods and listening to mumble rap, no 20-25 year old woman who wants family and stability would marry a zoomer male unless they’re retarded.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/23 02:57 AM
9	Men on this sub are obsessed with young women because of rejection wounds, not biology So your bf has a grandma fetish, most guys aren’t like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/23 02:55 AM
14	Men on this sub are obsessed with young women because of rejection wounds, not biology The biological imperative would be that they’re the most fertile, youthful, energetic, etc which are all good for child rearing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/23 02:54 AM
3	What women in their 30s seem to ignore is that the biological imperative for a man is slighty more forgiving than a woman and a man can get his shit together in his 30s or 40s, a woman who is 35 and is still holding out for a high tier man is absolutely done for. Start talking about rich people and I bet the script will flip. It’s funny how it’s all about “bootstrapping” when it comes to dating. “The world is unfair and all the odds are stacked against the little guy….except in dating that’s perfectly 100% fair and directly related to how much effort you put in”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/23 02:52 AM
-1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? That’s certainly the FDS take on it. Here’s a question: if women want to be so equal in relationships, when are they going to start taking on equal responsibility and perform equally in work/other areas of life? We all know when shit hits the fan it’s me you’re relying on so maybe stfu and stay in your lane unless you’re Rhonda Rousey then I guess we can be equal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 11:46 PM
3	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? Indeed. I’m already competing with many other people in my life I don’t need to be competing or fighting with my gf also.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 11:45 PM
2	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? Better comparison would be like CEO vs middle management. They still have power in how things are done. But the CEO has more/final power. The kids in a household are more like the “employees”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 11:30 PM
3	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? Yeah, generally. In my past relationships those types of girls tend to be submissive in the sense that they often defer to me for decisions or are “submissive” sexually in bed. Again it’s not because I force them too it’s just in their nature. I’ve dated some smart and confident women who are just naturally soft and “submissive”. I wouldn’t try to force a girl who isn’t like that to act that way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 09:54 PM
80	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? Can only answer for myself but I generally like women who are a bit more introverted/soft spoken. It has nothing to do with me wanting to control them or wanting them to get my permission for everything though. I just like a “softer” personality on a woman more than say, an extroverted or abrasive personality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 09:48 PM
3	Silicon human size dolls are now made really realistically, and better looking than biological women, imagine when they are integrated with AI into cute fembot girlfriends, KO for women All of my foreign ex gfs could cook well but I haven’t met a white woman who can cook for shit in a long time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/23 06:29 PM
1	Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like! How is it not true? You really think so many men are terrible people that women can’t help but just run into them everywhere they go? It’s because good guys keep to themselves, aren’t huge risk takers, aren’t overly aggressive or charismatic, typically aren’t extremely wealthy or successful, etc. the kinds of personality traits that lead to things women find attractive are also closely linked with the people that end up being abusive, or cheaters. Women want some alpha giga chad with drive and a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 03:36 AM
2	The biggest lie men are told is to contribute to society Lmao yeah there’s multi billion dollar marketing campaigns for groceries. Everything else you’ve said is textbook feminist propaganda. “We can choose how to be happy!” No one is genuinely happy working a shit job for 30+ years, literally no one on earth. Women “working” just reduced labour costs and increased consumer spending, a big win for capitalists. Women’s idea of “work” is taking care of their own kids or their own household, that’s how out of touch they are. If someone financially suppor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 03:32 AM
-1	Womens expectations? Lol well obviously I’m not going to think too highly of her now in hindsight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 03:25 AM
12	The dating market will never be equalized. A fit and financially stable man has no choice nowadays but to settle for an STD-ridden, hedonistic, narcissistic, broken and prematurely post-wall mess. The way out is foreign women. Even though they didn’t go the distance, all of my best relationships have been with foreign women, and typically non-whites. Let’s face it, the average western woman is a fat, entitled, narcissistic idiot with insanely high standards. The only good ones left are the traditional/religious ones but then even they get annoying as fuck with their Jesus freak shit. The West is a sinking ship, just get off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 03:19 AM
2	Womens expectations? Actually I did. She whined about the hotel room we had (even though she picked it), so I hassled the staff until they upgraded us to a premium room with a jacuzzi style bath at no additional cost. I planned the entire weekend, drove us all the way to Niagara Falls from Toronto, basically had the most thoughtful and picturesque new years date I could think of. But I wasn’t at the top of my game in the sack so I guess that’s all that mattered, lmao. Idk, Reddit is in some weird bubble alternate re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 03:17 AM
2	Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like! There’s not that many bad men, women just somehow manage to pick the worst ones all the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 03:10 AM
6	The biggest lie men are told is to contribute to society Women have “jobs”. Women don’t really work very hard, though. Women certainly consume a lot, they spend enough for all of us and then some (which is why marketing/advertising largely caters to women). My greater point being a lot of men are out there busting their asses for basically no real personal gain. When I was in blue collar work I worked hard as fuck (not many women in sight and the few that were there always scammed out of the hardest work or got a simp to do it), and in the grand schem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 03:09 AM
7	The biggest lie men are told is to contribute to society I think what he’s saying is that busting our ass and being a slave to the system in the west is for idiots. You work hard, you pay all your taxes, and then 80+% of our culture’s women just eat McDonald’s all day and make unrealistic demands. I’m with OP, fuck the world. I read a story about a suicidal man who, before killing himself, decided he’d just quit his job and go party for a while. So he went to Mexico, did a bunch of coke, fucked a bunch of hookers, and when all was said and done he sud…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 02:17 AM
11	The biggest lie men are told is to contribute to society You’ve got the cause and effect mixed up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 02:15 AM
1	What actual oppression looks like. If it was impossible to convert depression into attention seeking behaviour, the female depression rate would be 0%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 02:13 AM
0	Womens expectations? A few years ago I slump busted with this bitch, we were legitimately dating and at the time I was putting a lot of effort in the relationship. But one night we fucked and she didn’t really like it. I think it was because I stopped midway to put a rubber on because I was worried about knocking her dumb ass up. Anyway, the next day she broke up with me and said it was mostly because I seemed “inexperienced”. Like what lmao? I was like, “ya, probably a lot less experienced than you, slut”. Like sur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 02:10 AM
6	The sad truth about modernity. Here’s some blackpill math for you. One time I wanted to figure out what my approximate odds are of finding “the one”. I live in Canada so about half the population is women, that’s approximately 15 million people. Then we have to filter out the appropriate age range which leaves approximately half, so 7 million. Then we need single women, so that brings us down to 3 mil. Now we need to eliminate 80% of them because they’re fat. Down to about 600,000. Now gotta filter for my non-weight related p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 02:04 AM
1	Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like! I’m just saying sometimes if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it’s because it’s actually a duck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 01:53 AM
1	Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like! Women will be like “ommmmggg I never knew he was a bad guy!” Meanwhile the nigga was throwing out red flags six ways to Sunday.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 01:50 AM
1	Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like! Yeah but women seem to naively blunder into it more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 01:45 AM
2	Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like! I’ve avoided being in relationships with abusive people because I’m a good people reader, though	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 01:41 AM
7	Start a family with fat girl or marry a single mom? Indeed. Fortunately for me I’m not interested in them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 01:40 AM
1	EqUalItY If I can’t batter the women, how the fuck am I supposed to bake ‘em a cake?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:45 PM
5	Why it seems like there is a whole pressure to date in college? College is prime time for dating. I wasted my college years dating some fat bitch. Looking back I could have had some primo pussy but I wasted my chances and nowadays I’m stuck working from home meeting zero women and over-relying on OLD which makes me want to kill my self.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:43 PM
2	GAY SON or THOT DAUGHTER???? Gay son twins so I can break a motherfuckin table over the back of a couple of faggots and crack it in half.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:42 PM
4	Finally allowed because of the purge: Racial Dating Trends Ricecels stay losing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:40 PM
3	Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like! Maybe, but they usually have other tells. For example my last serious gf was short, thin, soft spoken, and just had soft features all around. Pretty low chances of being an aggressive psycho. But some high energy coked out looking bitch with crazy eyes? You just gotta get better at reading people, everyone has a tell.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:36 PM
1	What If Guys Stopped Chasing Girls and Focused on Themselves? Yeah you can do it but don’t be surprised when there’s unforeseen consequences. I remember one of my slump buster gfs from a couple years ago broke up with me after New Years because she thought I was “inexperienced” 🤣.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:35 PM
17	Start a family with fat girl or marry a single mom? Anyone of any age group wanting to not date a fatty is already limiting themselves to about 20% of the female population. Then over 30 a lot of the skinny ones are crazy bitches too. Good luck. Probably about 2-5% of women in this age group are decent looking and not retarded.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:33 PM
16	Start a family with fat girl or marry a single mom? Is there a selection of foods a man can avoid eating in order to gain height?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:31 PM
10	When men were men and didn’t have they/them in their bios Those guys may have been gay, but at least they weren’t gay about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:30 PM
4	What If Guys Stopped Chasing Girls and Focused on Themselves? It’s like a gap in your resume. Taking few years off work to “find yourself” might sound like some amazing and fulfilling experience, but when you get back to the real world people will be like “nigga where tf you been?” Even as a single dude in my 30s I have to find ways to couch it to a lot of women I’ve met, explaining that I was “just out of” a long term relationship (kinda true) or something. Basically, if you plan to take time off from dating or whatever, then you better be ready to go mon…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:29 PM
3	It’s just something about British people…. 🤤❤️ “But we have black people too and we don’t have problems with gangs and crime!” Black people in Britain: Y’all have some gay ass niggas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:25 PM
0	“Have you ever had sex with a black guy?” Jeffrey “I wasn’t a racist it was just a poor community!” Dahmer. He may have killed and ate people, but at least he wasn’t a racist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:23 PM
2	Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like! Welp I certainly wouldn’t date a woman who looks like she’s been in prison for the last ten years, either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 11:19 PM
3	The dilemma. I doubt anyone here thinks this. I couldn’t give a fuck less (heh) if a girl puts out on the first date. In fact, I generally prefer it and have more respect for her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 10:22 PM
4	Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like! And people wonder why women get into trouble more often. What you’re saying is like someone saying, “some dangerous fish look friendly and innocuous, so, I’m just gonna jump into a tank with hungry sharks!” We’re talking about hedging your bets. If someone looks like they’ve spent the last 10 years in prison or in a biker gang, sure, they could be the nicest person in history, but, it’s probably reasonable to take the safe bet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 10:18 PM
0	How does a man acquire the skills to socialize with a woman in a romantic manner Have a great life to derive limitless confidence and energy from. Your life sucks? Reroll.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 09:52 PM
3	How dating should be done Based.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 09:50 PM
2	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take More like if they ate garbage food for a week and then were told by someone who has been eating healthy that taking a shit is easy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 09:49 PM
1	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take I think you’re missing my point entirely, like by a light year. The dude above was saying social shit is easy, I’m simply saying no it isn’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 09:48 PM
1	Lonely single men who get little to no sexual attention project their loneliness onto women about to hit the mythical wall Even if we exclude the upper class, men still did the vast majority of the “grunt work”. Think as far back as the Roman Empire: men fought and died, women stayed home and had babies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 09:46 PM
30	Men like to complain that women always end up with “bad boys,” but it’s unfair to criticize women for that. You have to get to know someone before you know what they are like! Well I was arguing with someone here earlier that was saying basic pattern and trend recognition is racist and shouldn’t be done so, I suppose women truly are oblivious to reality. Women probably think the chances of this guy being a nice dude of good character who respects women are 100% equal to the chances of a clean cut, normal looking guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 08:14 PM
2	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take There’s obvious overlap between the two groups.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 08:11 PM
1	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take Do you just not know what a PUA is or is this one of those “act astounded and dumbfounded by something in place of actual discussion” womanly type things?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 08:09 PM
6	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take What doesn’t make sense to you? That something that “comes easy” to someone with years of experience and for those who play a passive/react role wouldn’t necessarily come as easy to people with less experience and who have an active role? That kinda speaks for itself doesn’t it? It’s a fact that 40% of men in the USA are single. What would your explanation for that be? That’s something like 60+ million men, are they all just “over complicating” it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 08:08 PM
2	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take The last time I checked, 40% of men weren’t unable to take a shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 08:06 PM
1	Does money automatically make you more attractive to women or is it more than just that? Women don’t realize how many factors influence whether they think a man is sexually attractive or not. If it was as simple as “hot guy features are hot” then only the top 5% of men would ever get a woman wet. Plenty of “ugly” dudes have meaningful sex with women who enjoy it so, something made the woman feel attracted to them. I guess you could make an objective judgment on someone’s attractiveness based on commonly desired physical features but, sexual attraction will always ultimately be an in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 07:27 PM
0	Does money automatically make you more attractive to women or is it more than just that? Lol you’re basically a case in point to everyone here saying status and everything else affects woman’s perception of a man’s physical attractiveness. Bezos is in really good shape for his age, and he might be bald but his head is at least proportional. He does have sort of weak/dorky facial features but not too bad. If Bezos was just a regular guy no one would ever say something as absurd as “no woman on Earth thinks he’s hot”. He could post on r/toastme and people would be like damn bro you’re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 07:22 PM
1	Does money automatically make you more attractive to women or is it more than just that? Do you understand what the halo effect is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 07:18 PM
1	Does money automatically make you more attractive to women or is it more than just that? People think about money and relationships in the wrong way. A lot of men try to buy off women directly which is how you end up getting smoked by gold diggers. What you really use money for is to establish yourself. With money you can buy nicer clothes, take classes and learn skills, travel around the world gaining interesting experiences and insight, pay for personal training to become fit and attractive physically, take time off work so you’re energized and happy, etc. Basically all of the thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 07:14 PM
3	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take Well, you can do with the information you have, what you’d like. If you’d feel safer avoiding black neighborhoods because black men are statistically more likely to assault or rob you than other races, then no one is stopping you. Likewise men understand there are certain common traits or trends among women so we try to base some of our decisions on that. A huge part of what separates humans from other animals is our pattern recognition skills and ability to think and plan ahead. Ignoring those …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 07:11 PM
1	Toxic masculinity does not exist , because no behavior is exclusive to just one gender Indeed. It’s often framed from the angle of trying to help men and alleviate “toxic” social pressures or expectations but the insidious ulterior motive is that it’s intended to demoralize men for having natural, healthy male tendencies and desires.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 07:02 PM
3	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take I agree it’s not 100% but that doesn’t mean it’s not useful information. For example I’m sure less than 100% of wild tigers would kill you if you ventured into their territory, that doesn’t make “avoid wild tigers” bad advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 07:00 PM
4	Secrets to sex appeal that every man should follow The problem with this kind of advice is it usually comes from people who are already naturally gifted in certain areas and/or have had years of practice and experience to get them to where they are. It’s the classic boomer worker mentality towards new people: “just do this, it’s easy!” They never stop and think about the long, arduous process it can take to be in a position to have the necessary knowledge, skill sets, and confidence required for whatever situation is in question. Advice for men …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 06:57 PM
5	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take No they’re not all carbon copies of one another but when you interact with many of them you do notice trends or tendencies in their lines of thinking or behaviour. A good example is women tend to agree with liberal/emotional causes more than men, which is why 70+% of vegans are women. On the flip side men are naturally more interested in physicality, violence, other such things, which could explain why about 45% of American men are gun owners and only about 22% of women are. It’s never set perfe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 06:50 PM
1	Toxic masculinity does not exist , because no behavior is exclusive to just one gender It’s just anti-men rhetoric masked in pseudo-intellectual gobbledygook. Notice how no one ever talks about “toxic femininity”? Toxic masculinity is a way to associate outlier undesirable behaviour (violence, rape, extreme bullying, etc) with everything linked to masculinity/manhood in an effort to demoralize and androgenize men. The women and leftists that typically espouse this shit prefer a docile, obedient, low energy male population, and this is basically a psyop in order to dissuade men fro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 06:43 PM
4	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take Humans are extremely predictable in groups, why do you think propaganda, mass media, etc is so successful? Everyone wants to believe they’re the special snowflake that has their own 100% unique personality and mindset but in reality most people are a lot more predictable than they realize.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 06:40 PM
8	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take That’s like me saying flying an airplane is nothing, you just feel it out. Easy for me to say after over a decade of experience. For women social interactions and social success feel easy and natural because they’re so tuned to it after years of experience. Many men haven’t had the social network and social experience women have, plus men have to be the ones to actually initiate conversation and try to “win”, the woman simply makes a judgment call as to whether she’s interested or not. So yeah i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 06:37 PM
6	How blue pilled or red pilled you are rarely determines how successful you are with women. What determines this is how much action you take Red pill PUA type stuff does technically work, but only because it’s primarily a numbers game. What they do is figure out what types of approaches or whatever have the best success rate, then they conduct them on as many women as possible until they get the results they want. It’s essentially cold call sales. Even if it’s only a 5% success rate, if you speak to 100 women, that’s 5 numbers/dates/whatever. If you speak to 1000, that’s 50, etc. The caveat is that, like sales, you just have to have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 06:35 PM
2	Lonely single men who get little to no sexual attention project their loneliness onto women about to hit the mythical wall The overarching point I’m making is that men have largely been responsible for creating the societies and the systems we have now which allow women the luxury of foregoing marriage and relationships in pursuit of other goals. Just look at any under-developed country or look to our own history. A lot of time feminists chalk that stuff up to “misogyny” or “patriarchy” but there were practical reasons for that. Because during times of development people need women to be at home birthing and raising…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 06:31 PM
0	Lonely single men who get little to no sexual attention project their loneliness onto women about to hit the mythical wall Who cares? Anything is possible. You don’t base your decisions on every random possibility you base it on trends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 02:52 PM
1	"just be a good person" and other stupid shit that people give as advice What are you crying to the auto-janny for?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 02:49 PM
3	Lonely single men who get little to no sexual attention project their loneliness onto women about to hit the mythical wall A women who stays in shape and single into her 30s can definitely still physically attractive but, it’s also a red flag. If a woman couldn’t get into a relationship at all in her prime years when she was that cute and fun to be around, then there’s obviously a reason for that. Dating in my 30s has been seriously eye opening to how many crazy ass bitches are out there, and tbh at this point I prolly would opt for a single mom or divorced woman because at least you know they’re capable of being in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 02:44 PM
1	Lonely single men who get little to no sexual attention project their loneliness onto women about to hit the mythical wall To me the wall just describes what happens to the types of women who completely exploited their youth and good looks and had nothing else to offer. Then when time takes those things away she realizes her true underlying value was close to zero. Of course this doesn’t happen to most or maybe even a lot of women but there are enough out there that fit the bill. Hell I’ve known several personally through work. I knew a girl who was fairly genetically gifted, she put ZERO effort into anything (even …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 02:40 PM
9	Lonely single men who get little to no sexual attention project their loneliness onto women about to hit the mythical wall I agree with what you’re saying but my problem is that women only have all of these opportunities and access to resources because of men. Now they just get it all indirectly through the welfare state or male-created industries and opportunities. Essentially modern western women get all the benefits of being in a relationship with a man without actually having to be in one. But then again the rate of depression of single women over 30 is also quite high so I’m sure at least part of this post is j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 02:33 PM
1	If you desire a tradcon gf/wife, OLD is useless. That’s a BS line of thinking. If I’m bigger and stronger than you, then I’m probably able to take your shit from you by force. But the police will intervene on behalf of “society” and stop me (or at least punish me after the fact). We don’t and have never lived in a complete free for all society where winner takes all and it’s survival of the fittest. Usually people that espouse that type of thinking only do so until the moment they’re no longer the biggest boy in the block then they’re quick as…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 02:26 PM
1	If you desire a tradcon gf/wife, OLD is useless. Society has never operated that way. The proportionality these days is completely out of whack (not just socially but economically as well) because this “free market” style of thinking just consolidates all resources into the hands of a small group of elites and leaves everyone else out to dry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 02:23 PM
2	If you desire a tradcon gf/wife, OLD is useless. Interesting, I’ve honestly never really considered using those old school “matchmaker” websites. Haven’t since plenty of fish way back when. Guess it could still be worth a shot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 02:19 PM
1	I am slowly starting to despise Andrew Tate I’d never pay money for any of his courses or shit, but I liked listening to some of what he had to say. Actually some of my favourite Tate videos and speeches weren’t even the ones that had anything to do with women, but were the ones where he talks about getting your own ass in gear. Men these days have basically no real role models. It’s not like the leftists out there are giving us meaningful advice or encouragement. So when a guy like Tate comes along he’s going to attract a lot of people e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 02:13 PM
1	"just be a good person" and other stupid shit that people give as advice Oftentimes it’s framed as a dichotomy as a cope for losers. For example, “sure I might not be tall, fit and handsome, but at least I’m smart, funny, and a good person!” Yeah but a high value woman will just choose someone who is both of those things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 02:05 PM
7	The whole “Women reward bad guys with sex” complaint isnt just misogynistic. It’s misandranistic too. Special snowflake. Who cares what you’ve done anyway? Look at the trends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/22 07:27 PM
7	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. Uh, because when you’re in the middle of nowhere on some shit road in the winter, you can slide off the road, crash, and die horribly? Trucking is the 7th most dangerous job in America lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:43 AM
1	Men say they want the good old days back. But were women truly happier back when the norm was a SAHM? Or did they just not have the ability to leave and were more tolerant than women now? Aren’t modern women on record numbers of anti depressants? Mental health issues are at the very least extremely prevalent. It’s unlikely anyone was “happier” now or in the past, but at least society was more stable and less chaotic. At least people had their places in society and it wasn’t so difficult to find a path in life. Most people aren’t starry eyed redditor weirdos with fantastical views about life, most people just want a basic sense of purpose and a role to fulfill, and in the past tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:35 AM
5	Does anyone else feel like feminism has ruined a generation of women for dating? That’s because it’s as dumb pipe dream to pretend that men can or should be soft, effeminate wimps like most women are. Then who would do the real work? Imagine if Russia invaded Ukraine and they sent a bunch of 130 lbs reddit soyboys to fight instead of hardened, badass men? The war would have been over in five minutes. Real men need to exist or we’re finished. Feminist ideals have no place in reality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:33 AM
3	Modern Dating Apps Are Too Efficient - Hypergamy Theory Tbh I could go out and get a gf tomorrow if I wanted. The problem is that I can’t get the type of girl I actually want and would be happy with. Too many men are such low self esteem tools they’ve gone and skewed the entire system against our favour. They’ve over inflated women’s egos to the point where fat single moms are picky and demanding when they should be happy they’re getting any male attention at all. As shitty and lonely as it can be to be single, I’d still take my life over those loser…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:31 AM
4	Having sex when the other person is drunk shouldn’t be considered sexual assault As far as I know, if you get into a car while drunk, you will be charged with a crime 100% of the time. So why do we believe a person is criminally accountable for driving while extremely intoxicated, but we also believe they aren’t accountable for having sex while extremely intoxicated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:28 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Most people don’t realize that steroids and other PEDs are extremely common and contribute to many of the youthful, athletic looks seen in men (especially famous men). Steroids hardly means exclusively giant body builder freaks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:25 AM
7	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. Who cares what you’ve done? I’ve done military service and I was a northern trucker for almost 10 years, I could flex “dangerous work” on the vast majority of men and women but that’s hardly the point. Look at the statistics, look at who does the shittiest jobs, the most dangerous jobs, the most essential jobs. What are women usually? Teachers, nurses, secretaries? Society would hardly fall apart without them like it would without truckers, farmers, soldiers, power line workers, oil rig workers,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:23 AM
6	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. Not as many as in the past, but the point is that many important jobs for society are still fairly dangerous and are almost exclusively done by men. And let’s not forget the most dangerous and shitty deal of all: selective service. The Ukraine war should make it abundantly clear that it is more than possible for any of us to end up defending our countries, and in the US the selective service is exclusive to men. In Ukraine too the vast majority of refugees are women and children and the vast maj…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:20 AM
1	Is it ok for a man to use prostitution, if it's legal? Can you compare it to casual sex? No idea. I feel like there will always be stigma no matter what, so it’s probably something a man would just keep to themselves more than anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:17 AM
2	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. It’s easy to google the breakdown of men vs women dominated jobs/career fields. You’ll find that most of the core industries (agriculture, construction, transportation, mining, etc) are heavily dominated by men. These men are pretty much non-existent on the radar of most urbanites, they’re essentially nameless, faceless slaves who work long hours in shitty parts of the country for low pay. No one knows about them, no one cares about them. Completely expendable beasts of burden that do the heavy …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:15 AM
5	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. Who cares? But I drove trucks for many years, often in terrible weather. Truck drivers are 97% men. So about 97% of every good that was trucked in for you to buy was there because of a man, not a woman. You’re welcome.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:12 AM
6	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. That’s true but women make less money than men on average yet spend more and consume government resources more on average (largely linked to single motherhood). There’s plenty of studies about it. Most of them blame men and sexism of course but the facts remain the facts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:11 AM
2	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. My current job is easy as piss. But I drove trucks for 8 years. Not easy, Canadian winters are a bitch. Many close calls. Some women drive trucks though, often as a pair with their SO. Nothing but respect for them but it’s rare as fuck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 07:04 AM
3	Daily Community Chat Megathread Then argue about the halo effect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 01:57 AM
5	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. It always blows my mind how some stay at home women think the man should work and help at home and all she has to do is do apparently only some of the housework. I can’t imagine being that princess mode lmao. Tell you what ladies, I will do 110% of the household work (I’ll visit your parents place and do their dishes too) if you financially support me 100% the rest of my life. Any takers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 01:48 AM
3	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. But you have to take care of your household no matter what. If you live on your own you still take care of your own household 24/7. But when you live with a man now you just have to do some extra work to compensate for him. But he busts his ass at his job to support your entire livelihood. If you think those things are equivalent, you live in a different reality. Any dude who would deal with you has literally zero self respect lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 01:47 AM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread You only weigh 134 pounds? My first warm up set on the bench is more than your entire body weighs. What girls are you picking up, toddlers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 01:45 AM
3	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. What isn’t working out for Japan? Their population decline? That’s a natural result of overpopulation + automation. One day their population will stabilize again and it’ll be better and easier for people to get married and have families. Japan is one of the only developed countries doing it right tbh, because every other dumbass country except maybe other Asian ones like Korea, are falling into the trap of outsourcing/automating their workforce while simultaneously continuing to increase their p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 01:43 AM
2	Is it ok for a man to use prostitution, if it's legal? Can you compare it to casual sex? Indeed, as far as I know there’s minimal if any human trafficking in places like Amsterdam. Although to be fair there’s minimal crime there in general. It stands to reason though. With legalization would come proper oversight, regulations, workers rights for the women, etc. as it stands, the prostitutes themselves are technically complicit so they have no real legal recourse lest they implicate themselves also. I’m sure an underground for sex slavery would still unfortunately exist just like the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 01:40 AM
4	Daily Community Chat Megathread Negated? What is this a yugioh game? I didn’t activate a trap card, I’m conversing with you, it’s a social thing common in human beings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 01:36 AM
6	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. Then by the same logic they’re serving each other since the man pays for all her expenses. But men also work to be net contributors to society, net tax payers, pay alimony, child support, AA, etc. so overall men “serve” more than women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 01:27 AM
7	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. Okay, and some men are sexually assaulted by women. The exception doesn’t make the rule.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 01:25 AM
10	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. She’s not serving the man if it’s also her home and her family lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 11:30 PM
9	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. The most dangerous jobs are almost exclusively done by men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 11:30 PM
1	Is it ok for a man to use prostitution, if it's legal? Can you compare it to casual sex? I agree but like drugs, human trafficking is largely as a result of prostitutions illegal status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 11:29 PM
9	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. If I was with a girl who didn’t have a job but also didn’t want to do the housework then I’d just dump her worthless ass and keep all of my money for myself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 10:48 PM
8	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. I agree, under appreciation can and often does happen to both sexes. But on a societal scale I’d say men are less appreciated overall, and we’re often considered highly expendable as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 10:47 PM
6	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. That’s just how women see it because modern feminism has poisoned their minds. Homemaking is a woman’s contribution to a household whereas men’s contributions is typically busting their ass or risking their life to provide the household the resources it needs to survive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 10:46 PM
8	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. The difference was she didn’t have a job of her own. Being the stay at home mom was her “job”. This is exactly the same mindset I’m talking about lmao. Pure entitlement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 10:45 PM
2	"The Wall" doesn't exist It’s not a fixed point but both men and women definitely take a shit kicking in the physicality department in their 30s. Sure there’s some heroes that look great into their 40s and even 50s but, generally it’s not the norm. I think The Wall typically refers to women who over-relied on their looks and genetics when they were young, and then they start to lose that edge as they age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 10:25 PM
11	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. I’m sure that happens, but, I’ve also seen men turn to those things largely because of being completely and utterly under appreciated by women and society as a whole. For example I came across a thread once on Reddit (just an example that sticks out) where a woman was complaining about how her husband wasn’t helping her very much around the house. Then it turns out the dude works a hard job and works 12+ hours a day and she’s a stay at home mom. Men are just expected to slave away for our women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 10:19 PM
32	Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything. In my experience women are generally far less willing to take responsibility for most things. They often feel entitled far more than men. Men can absolutely be that way too don’t get me wrong but, the princess mentality is extremely prevalent. Women are to be served and men are to serve. I’m not sure if women realize an entire “class” of men exist who are basically just tax and labour cattle for women/society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 10:10 PM
6	Is it ok for a man to use prostitution, if it's legal? Can you compare it to casual sex? Personally I agree that street level prostitution is bad. It’s bad for men and it’s really bad an exploitative for women. But I think professional level “escort” type services would be great. Men in slumps could definitely benefit from some companionship services. My work offers pseudo-therapy which just amounts to talking with someone. I don’t really see how escorts are much different than another form of therapy. You pay a woman to spend time with you, have fun with you, and then have sex with…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 10:04 PM
5	Daily Community Chat Megathread You can’t imagine a man working really hard on a relationship? Why don’t you just hold up a giant sign that says “I HAVE MAJOR DADDY ISSUES”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 09:59 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Try PSMF. It’s brutal but it works quickly and it’s as healthy as a “crash diet” can possibly be. The real trick is stabilizing at a healthy weight and maintaining good eating habits. I never would have needed to do PSMF if I’d just maintained my weight properly in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 09:56 PM
7	Daily Community Chat Megathread Men don’t get praised for shit, no one supports men that are dieting and exercising, everyone resents them and projects their massive insecurity on them. But if you were “institutionalized” obviously you had a real problem and weren’t just on a temporary fitness based cutting diet lmao. I’ve known plenty of fitness chicks who never got institutionalized for cutting, you’re being delusional as fuck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 09:54 PM
5	Daily Community Chat Megathread Your success on grindr doesn’t really apply to straight men trying to date women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 09:50 PM
5	Daily Community Chat Megathread Well, you’re doing two things here that aren’t helpful: 1) you’re ignoring the halo effect. It’s well documented that people’s perceptions of your actions is highly influenced by their perception of you as a person. So, if a more attractive person does the same thing as a less attractive person, it will be more accepted due to the halo effect even though it’s technically the same thing. 2) even if getting jacked is a frivolous endeavour, what alternative advice are you offering anyone? How does …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 09:49 PM
30	Is it ok for a man to use prostitution, if it's legal? Can you compare it to casual sex? Deep down women hate the idea of prostitution because then they know they’d have to bring something else to the table to attract a man, other than their sex appeal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 09:19 PM
1	People realize that introducing or killing even an "insignificant" species can change the whle environment, but they cannot accept the changes the birth control caused You’re a shit talking little pussy kid, just shut the fuck up already.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:43 PM
1	People realize that introducing or killing even an "insignificant" species can change the whle environment, but they cannot accept the changes the birth control caused I think you’re a punk kid who couldn’t back up the shit you’re saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:41 PM
2	People realize that introducing or killing even an "insignificant" species can change the whle environment, but they cannot accept the changes the birth control caused Lol you’re obviously some zoomer kid who knows jack shit. I skate circles around your entire generation financially, which would have been more than enough to attract a woman in the era where women couldn’t really earn a living on their own. But these days that’s no longer a “competitive” advantage because your bullshit “progressive” policies have over-subsidized women and enabled them to do whatever they want with minimal consequence. It’s hard to “compete” in a rigged system.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:34 PM
1	People realize that introducing or killing even an "insignificant" species can change the whle environment, but they cannot accept the changes the birth control caused Then by that logic so are the millions of people who are under employed or unable to keep up with the cost of living. They’re all just getting left behind because they’re losers who “can’t compete”. Love how Darwinistic people get about dating when I’d bet 1000 bucks they’re socialist as fuck about economics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:07 PM
6	People realize that introducing or killing even an "insignificant" species can change the whle environment, but they cannot accept the changes the birth control caused Lol, progress. High crime rates, high single motherhood, lack of relationship success for both men and women, high depression, etc. 40% of men right now are single, and of those who aren’t, 60% report unhappiness in their relationship. So the average man (normal men with jobs, decent social lives, everything) are struggling big time these days. Your “progress” has failed society, the only people benefit are those who, like I said, are just hedonistically over indulging in whatever materialistic …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:03 PM
1	Debating with people who literally deny the “harsh” realities of behaviour that TRP let’s men know about is a waste of your time Imo most of those arguments are, as you said, down to lack of real world experience. Average age on Reddit is 23. Being older doesn’t automatically make you wiser, but, you can’t be wise without age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 06:50 PM
7	People realize that introducing or killing even an "insignificant" species can change the whle environment, but they cannot accept the changes the birth control caused Western society, governance, and economics in general has highly encouraged a culture of extreme individualism and hedonism, to imo an irresponsible degree. For example, no one cares about getting married and having children here anymore because if we need to grow out population, we can just bring people in through immigration. Also, women don’t care about being in stable relationships with a provider husband because the government will supplement and subsidize them in many ways. It’s human natu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 06:44 PM
1	What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"? I feel like you have a major misunderstanding of how the laws of thermodynamics works. Women in Japan have no issue with this stuff because they don’t eat 5000 calories a day, it’s incredibly simple, westerners just have absolutely zero personal accountability or impulse control.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 06:39 PM
1	The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupid It needs to be the right person, for sure. I’ve been in a couple of reasonably successful long distance and semi-long distance relationships. We did eventually break up obviously but, the time/distance wasn’t actually a factor. In fact, in those relationships both of us enjoyed the time apart, made the weekends together more special. My overarching point is that people strongly underestimate how much time they actually have, and what they can do to make things work. Often it’s an issue of motiva…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 06:37 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread You’re underestimating the halo effect. Men who look attractive and/or radiate confidence can get away with a lot more than average or below average men can. Also men aren’t just afraid of approaches because of being accused of harassment, it’s also crushing and humiliating to be rejected on any level. No one teaches men how to handle rejection. In fact we live in a society that promotes soft, feminine ideals for men but then when men react in an emotional and insecure manner to something diffic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 05:40 PM
5	Why do you require someone who is “college educated”? Nope don’t give a fuck. I have a university degree but now I’d rather date someone who has interesting passions or life experience vs someone just pseudo intellectually wanking about some philosophy 101 class. I could see caring more if I was in a more high end field like STEM, doctors and lawyers tends to stick together for example. But imo the lib arts college culture is trash, bunch of zoomers who think they know shit when they haven’t actually experienced shit. I get along far better with we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 05:36 PM
1	The pill doesn't nullify female reproductive responsibility. If anything, it's increased the responsibility and concerns surrounding it. I agree. I think the modern left is far too absolutist and as a result they tend to throw the baby out with the bath water. The past systems had problems but they also had advantages. We should be trying to tweak the systems that worked better overall, not just shit canning them entirely just because there’s a hint of “bad” in them. I’m a moderate liberal myself but I find I rarely if ever frame things as “good” vs “evil”. The modern left tends to do that way too much, and when you start believi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 05:24 PM
1	Are men and women biologically incompatible for long term relationships? I mask the hopelessness and depression at parties.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 04:26 PM
1	The pill doesn't nullify female reproductive responsibility. If anything, it's increased the responsibility and concerns surrounding it. Liberals have no real answer to single motherhood, which is strongly correlated with major social problems like crime and poverty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 04:17 PM
2	Does modern dating suffer from choice paralysis? Thanks. It is too bad. Custody issues and all kinds of fucked up stuff, but he had other issues too that was just a big part of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 03:49 PM
6	The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupid No, I can just manage my time appropriately and make room for the things I want/care about. I’ve met people who say they’re “too busy” but really they’re typically just bad at managing time. When I lived in Japan I knew dudes working 18 hour days, sleeping on trains, and they still had girlfriends/wives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 03:47 PM
1	Are men and women biologically incompatible for long term relationships? Well that’s nice, glad that’s how it went for you but it’s not really relatable or even possible for many other men out there. Especially over 30. I’m lucky to just meet a woman, period, let alone rattle off some laundry list of bullshit criteria she has to fall into.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 08:14 AM
1	Are men and women biologically incompatible for long term relationships? You’re a man who’s that picky? Good luck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:55 AM
1	You can’t love her that much if you think she should be happy with unremarkable and average (you) I can rap the fast part of Godzilla with near perfect accuracy. I’ve yet to find any woman worthy of these skills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:51 AM
1	What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"? I feel like you have to have very little pride or self respect as a man to reliably date in this day and age. I’ve noticed I have no real issue getting an opportunity with many women, the only problem is those women are typically overweight and/or single moms, and/or have serious red flags. For me to get anything approaching my actual standards and desires (reasonably fit and healthy, cute, fun, loyal) I typically have to go months between serious dating and sometimes have absolutely no prospect…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:36 AM
1	What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"? In the US about 40% of men are single and of the remaining 60%, some polls suggest that a whopping 60% of those partnered individuals are in unhealthy and unhappy relationships. So it’s probably fair to say that the vast majority of men, even if they happen to have a girlfriend or wife, are not “doing fine”. Most men are struggling big time with both finding a relationship and maintaining a successful relationship. I personally have experienced both. I’m not saying it was all the women’s fault e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:33 AM
1	What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"? Blue pillers are about as empathetic towards men in dating as capitalists are towards poor people in the economy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:29 AM
1	What does the "average man's" standards look like? And the "average woman's"? Women just have to not gorge themselves on McDonald’s daily and they’d probably meet 90% of dude’s standards, yet, 80% of them can’t even manage that in the West.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:27 AM
1	How to be more attractive as a man? You’re black, just be high energy and rap a little and you should be golden. Haven’t you ever seen Get Out? Black is in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:26 AM
1	For red pillers, what blue pill opinion do you hold? And for blue pillers, what red pill opinions do you hold? I’m more blackpill than red or blue pill, but if I had to choose one I guess I’m slightly to the red pill side. But I’d say I agree with a lot of what blue pillers say when they try to cut through generalizations or try to argue that not all women are bad or responsible for modern day dating issues. I think most modern day dating issues revolve around women but I don’t hold them personally accountable in most cases, if that makes sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:24 AM
1	For red pillers, what blue pill opinion do you hold? And for blue pillers, what red pill opinions do you hold? I agree. I’ve never bought the idea that men can just sleep around Willy Nilly and then still expect to settle down and commit properly to one woman. The rate of scandals and cheating amongst wealthy/high value men alone should disprove any notion otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:21 AM
1	Are men and women biologically incompatible for long term relationships? I think women generally want the emotional and other non-practical benefits of relationships but, in the modern day they can get those things everywhere. They can get it through endless validation online, from simps/orbiters, from FWB, and from occasional, often short term relationships. Also many western women are satisfying their maternal instincts with pets or with some social justice goal they fill their time with. So, when all is said and done, women have very little reason to genuinely des…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:19 AM
1	Are men and women biologically incompatible for long term relationships? “So what do you need to be healthy and happy in a long term relationship?” Men: “nice girl, kinda cute, loyal” Women: university thesis outlining incredibly specific things Ya wonder why relationships aren’t going well for most people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 07:11 AM
2	Does modern dating suffer from choice paralysis? Wouldn’t doubt it tbh. I just lost a friend to a suicide that largely stemmed from a breakdown in a marriage and the subsequence family issues that took place in the years to come.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 06:23 AM
0	Question 4 The Red Pill: What do you consider hoe/thot/slut/whore/pump and dump behavior? I don’t care if a woman has been in sexual relationships, just not interested in a woman who’s had copious amounts of casual sex. I have only ever had sex with women I was at least reasonably interested in dating, so, I’m looking for a woman with similar ideals. The way I see it, a woman who throws herself around either doesn’t value her body as much as I personally think she ought to, and/or she had her fun and now she wants a man to “settle down with” in which case haha nah 500 guys got to rid…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 05:58 AM
1	At what income does dating prospects for an average looking man become greater than a 8/10 man who earns 75k/year? Not sure. My cousin is married to a pretty woman who is very nice, makes okay money. He’s a good looking dude who makes 300K. For your example. Hmm. Like a mil a year?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 05:34 AM
1	People dating need to be realistic with their expectations The problem is generally speaking women aren’t interested in men that are their exact “equal” (however you average that out). The girl you want to date is probably at or around your level (unless you’re delusional as fuck and overrate yourself). Problem is she’s not looking at you, she’s looking up to the dude one level above you. So, you either have to level up to become the dude she wants, or end up giving up and settling for a girl one step down who’s looking to date up to you (and leave the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 05:25 AM
1	Q4M question for males: you meet your dream girl, but then she ages and is no longer the girl you met? I’ll be aging too. It’s fine. The purpose of finding a young attractive girl is to START the relationship. Your question is like saying what if you went on a road trip but just teleported to the final destination. It’s fine to get there eventually but I don’t want to start there, defeats the entire purpose of the journey.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 05:18 AM
2	Does modern dating suffer from choice paralysis? Yeah. The big problem too is men don’t have the perfect amount of attention either. Generally men have less than desirable amount of attention and women have more. Barring the ability to get the perfect balance, I’d still take too much attention over not enough. Even the threat of being harassed or even assaulted is, imo, still not as bad as the crushing feeling of loneliness (which drives many to suicide anyway).	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 12:14 AM
3	Does modern dating suffer from choice paralysis? Fair point but, I’d also say it’s fairly innocuous to approach someone and socialize in a public place, like Starbucks. But if a woman otherwise just wanted to be left alone in her life and was being hassled I’d definitely sympathize. However in my experience attractive women that have this “problem” also typically have massive social media accounts with hundreds of followers, routinely go to public events/parties, etc. They just want their cake and eat it too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 11:53 PM
5	Does modern dating suffer from choice paralysis? Women could easily experience what the average man experiences if they just unplugged from social media. Every girl I’ve ever met who complained about unwanted attention also took absolutely zero steps to reduce the level of attention they receive. They hate the unwanted parts but they hate the idea of not being the centre of attention even more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 11:35 PM
1	The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupid Fair enough. Least your building something for yourself. I can never understand why some people work so hard for other people. I lived in Japan for a while, it’s common there. And a lot of times they don’t even make more than I do working like half as much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 10:46 PM
7	Does modern dating suffer from choice paralysis? Agreed. Imo the complaints from women are just because women don’t know how to manage their options. They don’t know what it’s like on the other side. If I had the options women did my shit would be ironed out in five minutes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 10:43 PM
4	Does modern dating suffer from choice paralysis? I think that’s just because generally speaking the average person sucks, men and women. Something like 80% of people are overweight, which in itself would strongly suggest a lack of impulse control and discipline which no doubt carries over to other areas of life. When you want a decently attractive and motivated partner you’re immediately down to like 20% or less of the population out of the gate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 10:33 PM
1	Does modern dating suffer from choice paralysis? Absolutely. It’s a known phenomenon with all things, not just dating, that the more possible options you have the more trouble you have selecting and sticking with a choice. Online dating/social media has given women dozens if not hundreds of choices so many women take a long time to ever settle on a prospect. Men that would have been pretty high value in the old days (smaller social circles, less competition) are now barely showing up on the radar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 10:30 PM
1	The main reason that sugar dating exist is that women want a guy to spoil them and pay her bills but not to have a "true" boyfriend Some women enjoy the benefits of the “business” half of a relationship without having to put any actual effort or commitment in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 10:27 PM
2	The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupid Do you at least work for yourself? I can’t imagine burning my entire life just making some corpo rich.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 10:22 PM
13	The idea that there is no such thing as being too busy for a relationship is stupid Because it’s impossible to quantify what exactly constitutes “too busy”. Typically because “too busy” is simply as a result of not being that interested in a person. If you met your dream girl/guy tomorrow 100% guarantee you you would make time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 10:21 PM
2	Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?" Well, considering I was the one making the original point, I’d say you’ve got things a little backwards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 11:15 PM
2	Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?" Okay, fair enough. My point is that let’s say I’m a fairly young, fairly attractive, fairly successful man. Theoretically I ought to be able to find an equally young, attractive, successful woman. However, because we tend to over-value the youth and attractiveness of women, it doesn’t work out that way. Often times a young, attractive, successful man will end up with a woman who’s, say, just young and attractive. The expectations and valuations are different. And sure there’s always exceptions t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 04:11 PM
5	Q4W: What do you think of a dude doesn't try to escalate to full sex the first night? I think the problem here is expecting men to read your personal, individual “signs” instead of just directly communicating your thoughts and feelings. If men get in the habit of trying to “read signs” we end up in trouble because what’s a “sign” or one woman is not for others. When men approach women we tend to make our romantic interest fairly apparent. Why don’t women just do the same if that’s what they want?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 04:10 PM
1	Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?" I have no interest in “red pill logic”, maybe try arguing the topic at hand?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 04:07 PM
3	Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?" Isn’t that the point I’m making? That if a woman is young an attractive but doesn’t have a lot going on in other areas, she can still typically date “up”?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 04:07 PM
0	Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?" My point is I’m not concerned if a woman makes a ton of money or not. I’d rather date an interesting woman who makes less money vs a high earner who lists shopping and travel as her only hobbies on her profile.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 04:05 PM
3	What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing? Indeed. There’s also high school kids with travel experience, reserve military experience, etc. Don’t get me wrong I’m not advocating a 40 year old dating an 18 year old lol, but, just writing off young adults as “dumb kids” is wrong imo.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 04:02 PM
1	Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?" Pass.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 03:06 AM
1	Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?" Sure, but my point is that youthfulness and beauty is highly valued in women so there’s less incentive for a young, attractive woman to put serious effort into other areas of their life. I guess I could date an ugly old chick…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 02:45 AM
4	Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?" Okay? I’ve seen attractive well off men with ugly underemployed single moms. Anecdotes aren’t really that useful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 02:20 AM
3	Q4W: What do you think of a dude doesn't try to escalate to full sex the first night? Like once in a while?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 02:12 AM
2	Do you know anyone who is in a one-way open relationship? Ideally investing those things into a relationship that won’t fail.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 02:11 AM
13	Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?" That’s nice. The thing is I’m older than 20.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 02:06 AM
8	What do you agree with about the RP, and what do you disagree with? RP tends to promote embracing masculinity and improving yourself as a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 01:58 AM
5	Q4W: What do you think of a dude doesn't try to escalate to full sex the first night? Not passive, but usually reactive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 01:30 AM
6	Do you know anyone who is in a one-way open relationship? Probably because there’s a lot less social and financial consequences for women initiating divorce these days. Women initiate divorce at twice the rate men do, after all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 01:08 AM
1	Do you know anyone who is in a one-way open relationship? Because people invest immense time and resources into relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 12:41 AM
2	Do you know anyone who is in a one-way open relationship? That’s hopefully about the over 30 stat because that applies to me, lol. But, also gotta remember 50% not getting a divorced doesn’t mean they’re happy marriages. A lot of people don’t get divorced for practical reasons even if the relationship is fucked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 12:37 AM
0	Relationships have replaced a man's sense of accomplishment, I think this in turn makes men even more over-entitled about relationships I’d say as a social pair bonding species, succeeding in relationships should be pretty important to everybody.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 12:34 AM
1	Men and Women, Want vs. Need I think women and society as a whole need men, because men still do the heavy lifting. But women no longer need men directly in terms of a husband.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 12:16 AM
2	Do you know anyone who is in a one-way open relationship? Thanks. I’m sure it’ll all work out in the end but, when you’re in the middle of the shit it can be hard to look ahead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 12:10 AM
8	Do you know anyone who is in a one-way open relationship? I agree. I learned that lesson the hard way. Not with a marriage luckily but def took relationships for granted before. Now that I’ve learned my lesson I’m in the worst position I’ve ever been in for meeting women, of course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 12:01 AM
7	Do you know anyone who is in a one-way open relationship? That may be true but the divorce rate suggests it’s pretty hard for anyone to keep any marriage happy long term.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 11:50 PM
2	Do you know anyone who is in a one-way open relationship? Yeah I knew a guy who had a main chick and one or two side chicks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 11:48 PM
8	Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?" Personally I wish I met more women with actual hobbies/interests. I don’t care too much about what career a woman has, and of course them being nice and loyal is great. But I find it’s very hard to meet women who have genuine passions and interests. Might also be because the things I like tend to be male dominated, I guess. But my original point was more about the discrepancies that exist across the board. As a whole we tend to treat youth and beauty equal in “value” to a man’s accomplishments, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 11:24 PM
2	What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing? I agree but at the end of the day you have to make a decision. Statistics aren’t the be all end all but if it’s not a huge loss to me I’m usually going to err on the side of hedging my bets.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 11:06 PM
12	What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing? I volunteered with a youth program where kids 16-18 worked doing community service, achieved their pilots licences, and did other shit that most people have never accomplished in their entire lives. Especially compared to the terminally online man children of my generation, it’s not an easy standard to surpass if you actually go outside and accomplish anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:59 PM
2	What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing? Well I like to hedge my bets. If something is statistically an indicator of an undesirable outcome, isn’t it just basic common sense to avoid it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:58 PM
6	What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing? I’m not a virgin hunter but I’d prefer a woman with fewer sexual partners. I’m not a promiscuous individual myself. I prefer women who take sexual relationships seriously and don’t just dole their bodies out to every Tom dick and Harry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:56 PM
4	What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing? Then what’s the point of statistics?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:53 PM
3	What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing? It applies to men also anyway, maybe just not as strictly. But few if any women want to date some walking carpet. Men can get away with more body hair than women but we have to groom ourselves too. Also I agree, it’s not my fault a shaved female body looks fantastic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:50 PM
13	What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing? Older women seethe hard at men dating younger and/or foreign women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:48 PM
18	What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing? Sure. I’ve also talked to 18 year olds who are smarter than most 40+ year olds I know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:47 PM
11	What opinions are you tired of hearing here and what dismissals are you tired of hearing? You seem terminally online.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:46 PM
3	For men, too, Looks>Confidence People underestimate the halo effect. Most people don’t realize how much their perceived attractiveness influences how people react to your behaviour and lifestyle. Comedy is a good example. Just by being a reasonably attractive dude your jokes will be significantly funnier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:42 PM
24	Is it actually unreasonable that 'below average woman' want to be treated like ' 10' ? Don't below average men expect the people they date to treat them like 'a Chad?" I think the frustration is that a lot of men feel like they have to date down in order to be successful with dating. You go into the game as a reasonably attractive, fit, successful man with a decent paying job, and what does the average woman bring to the table? She’s a woman? She does her hair and makeup (sometimes)? The lopsidedness comes from the fact that (young, attractive) women are inherently valued by men and society but, men typically have to demonstrate value through some sort of acco…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:39 PM
0	Isn't it counter-intuitive for men who want sex to shame women for having sex? I’m sure there’s some hypocritical men out there with this view but, I think most men separate the women into different categories. “Hoes” for fun, less promiscuous girls for real relationships. That’s always have I’ve treated it, anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:36 PM
1	Don’t expect women to care about men’s “sexual needs” when women are shamed and dehumanized for satisfying those ‘needs’ by men. Sounds like your trouble is the age group. Or maybe it’s just me. But every since I got older I actually prefer it and find it attractive if a woman wants to hold off. One girl I dated last year flat out told me she didn’t want to have sex and she hadn’t had sex in years because she only does it after a serious relationship is established. Unfortunately I didn’t quite like her enough overall to pursue that but it definitely added points in her favour.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 10:09 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread Of course, it’s always men’s fault. Most men can’t handle those jobs either, strong people succeed in those fields because strength and tenacity is required. Many men don’t possess those qualities and very few women do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/22 12:54 AM
0	What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility? She could also just opt to marry a man and raise children with him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 11:08 PM
2	The bar for men is friggin' subterranean 20:1 men to women on OLD suggests they do, at least online.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 11:07 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Oh yes they do, one way or another. Every core industry is still dominated by men (agriculture, energy, logistics, etc), men are higher net tax contributors than women, women (especially white ones) are the largest beneficiaries of things like AA, etc. Men just don’t provide for women as directly 1:1 as they used to, but we still do most of the heavy lifting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 11:06 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread I guess but generally speaking I don’t think people want to be seen as boring or square. It’s an underhanded compliment at best, like you’re saying, “you’re the guy I want to settle down with after I’m done having fun”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 09:34 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Then they both are. The men are interested in conquest and the women are interested in resources.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 09:33 PM
1	The bar for men is friggin' subterranean I doubt it happens equally to women. Women have way more options than men so would be far more likely to experience fomo or regret for a choice they made. It definitely can happen to women though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 09:33 PM
4	Daily Community Chat Megathread They find it offensive because it’s patronizing. Like if I said you’re a good girl. There’s nothing inherently offensive about being a good girl but the phrasing and context is clearly patronizing. “Husband material” implies some dumpy middle aged man who’s lost his spark and energy. We don’t necessarily want to be fucking around but we want to retain some youthful vigour.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 08:53 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread I doubt that. The existence of things like war brides in the past suggest that men are far more interested in family and community building than women are. Men fight and die to defend their countries, women marry and procreate with the invaders.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 08:49 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Because work sucks. If you could just marry a tolerable dude who gives you shit, and as a result didn’t have to work or didn’t work as hard, wouldn’t you want to do it? Fuck if I could find a sugar momma I’d quit my job yesterday.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 08:46 PM
2	Q4Women: Have you ever lost attraction to an ex and then regain it? Reddit full of some scorned ass women lol. I’ve rekindled things with an ex before, so some women out there definitely do. I think you’re going to hear from a lot of women who had bad experiences. In the situation where we got back together it wasn’t a bad breakup more just our lifestyles and things going on didn’t match at the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 08:42 PM
1	High quality sperm theory That’s a rational decision. That doesn’t necessarily mean her attraction to him wasn’t based on an inherent desire for high quality genes for children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 08:37 PM
2	Where do you recommend meeting women? Generally I’d say a rapport is established after you engage them in some way that’s natural/conducive to whatever activity is happening. Basically, it doesn’t seem forced or obvious pickup. As an example, I used to train kickboxing and wrestling and if I saw a woman there I was attracted to, I’d ask them if they wanted to partner up. This gives you an opportunity to work with them and then talk with them in a friendly and natural manner. If things hit off then eventually I’d ask them for their n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 08:21 PM
4	Where do you recommend meeting women? I’ve had the best experience meeting women through a mutual activity. I met one of my gfs at work and a few others through language and cultural events. I’m not a fan of “pickup”, I’m just burned out of the game. I don’t want to go to some bar and put myself out only to get rejected and feel like shit. So, what I try to do is meet people naturally in a setting, especially a hobby or activity that involves communication and teamwork. I find by building a rapport with a woman and working/playing w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 08:02 PM
2	Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men? Probably. One benefit of religion is religious communities. I’d say a huge barrier for men and even some women when it comes to relationships is having a social circle from which to actually make connections and meet people. Religion often solves this problem from the outset.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 07:13 PM
1	It’s far far worse to want money from men to be with them than it is for a man to just want sex from a woman Even if that was true, women initiate divorce at twice the rate men do, so they’re largely the source of their own problem. And a woman being technically “poorer” than a man post divorce has no real bearing on how badly his life might be ruined by child custody arrangements or splitting assets. Men will base their decisions on risks to their own well being, not statistics regarding women’s well being.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 06:50 PM
1	I find most wo(men) are unattractive too. Nevermind, I’ve met my fair share of 20-25 year old women who have already ruined their bodies with terrible habits. Imagine being in your physical prime and just wasting it completely? Men do it too don’t get me wrong, but personally I’m not concerned about men since they’re my competition if anything, haha. Ideally 90% of men would be overweight and no women would be lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 06:25 PM
1	It’s far far worse to want money from men to be with them than it is for a man to just want sex from a woman Women absolutely have ways of playing the system against men, garnering sympathy, hiding things, spending child support poorly, denying responsibility for things, etc. I’ve seen it myself. And at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter whose fault it is, the simple fact is that men stand to lose a lot more in a relationship than women, from a legal/financial standpoint. Hell, here in Canada we have something called the female presumption rule for child custody and benefits which I’ve persona…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 05:59 PM
1	Did anyone else realize that people don't want a man/woman, but a man-product/woman-product? I think the problem has been deluding people into not believing that a significant component of a relationship is transactional. It surprises me that people appear to believe relationships are all about just being buddies. That’s what friends are for. When you’re in a serious relationship with someone, eventually you’re gonna have to get down to business. Finances, housing, child rearing, these things all require pragmatic considerations and so to me it’s only natural that both men and women loo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 05:50 PM
1	What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility? Depends on the level of expectations set. I’d say it’s fine for society to bear some of the burden as long as expectations are clear. I don’t think it’s okay to burden society with the consequences of your decisions while simultaneously advocating for the ability to make any (bad) decision unchecked. Women wanted sexual freedom, and now there’s an issue with single motherhood. I’m all for sexual freedom but freedom comes with responsibility.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 05:34 PM
1	It’s far far worse to want money from men to be with them than it is for a man to just want sex from a woman I’d say men and women experience risks at different parts of the relationship. Women definitely assume more upfront risk when meeting a new person, which you’ve outlined. But once a man is in a relationship and especially if kids are involved, the power dynamic largely swings in favour of the women. Men are afraid of gold diggers not because we think women are waiting in a dark alley to steal money from our wallets. We’re worried that once we’ve established a serious relationship and a family, w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 05:28 PM
1	Why is sex as a reward seen as a bad thing ? Agreed. Probably the same type of person that complains about capitalism and lack of job opportunities. “Welp, I didn’t have a problem getting a high paying job so I guess it’s a you problem” - doubt they’d like that response. Always find it interesting how women tend to be left leaning which means they typically look for social, cultural, and political explanations for things, yet when it comes to dating they’re hardcore bootstrappers, apparently.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 05:24 PM
2	Why is sex as a reward seen as a bad thing ? I think he meant women don’t have to orgasm to procreate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 05:20 PM
2	The bar for men is friggin' subterranean You’re probably right if we’re talking about flat out rejection, but many men deal with another form of rejection where the woman liked them but just opted for another man. I’ve had this experience many times. Good vibes, clearly both enjoyed each other’s company, but the woman just loses interest and ends up ghosting. I caught up with a girl I’d dated a year ago, and she said at that time she just needed space but she still had no problem talking with me now and reminiscing on the fun we had ba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 05:01 PM
1	I find most wo(men) are unattractive too. I feel like it’s a huge problem in the west due to obesity. When I lived overseas I definitely found the average woman more than attractive enough that I’d date. It worked out well for me because girls that the locals think are “ugly” by their standards are perfectly fine to me just by virtue of being a healthy weight, so I didn’t have to be so picky. In Canada and USA I’m already filtering out 70-80% of women on weight alone, nevermind anything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 04:32 PM
2	What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility? Agreed. Humans need structure. The average person overrates their intelligence and awareness greatly. Most people make poor choices when given absolute freedom, there has to be at least some guidance, even if just in the form of cultural norms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 04:30 PM
1	What is more important in the relationship market, freedom or responsibility? It’s several bridges too far because you’re essentially trying to offload every responsibility in your life onto society.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 04:28 PM
6	Question for Men: Would you rather marry a 20 year old who looks 30, or a 30 year old who looks 20? If a 30 year old looks 20 she’s either got great genetics and/or a very healthy and active lifestyle. I’ll take her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 04:26 PM
6	Why don't people warn men dating gets harder for them with age? My prospects did increase overall in my 30s but I still mostly agree with you. One big factor that’s often overlooked is access to social circles. If you didn’t lockdown a good friend group and/or a partner when you were young, it can be insanely hard to find one when you get a bit older, especially if you don’t work around many women or don’t get out much. The uphill battle for me in my 30s was just being able to reliably meet women. My attractiveness appears to be overall high than it was for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 04:24 PM
3	Monogamy is often rooted in a fear of rejection/insecurity Humans aren’t the only pair bonding species. There’s an element of trust and loyalty that enhances a relationship in monogamy that might not be as easy to come by in a polygamous arrangement. Also societally speaking, monogamy helps eliminate the tendency for powerful men to accumulate harems. Things are returning to pseudo-harems now with social media but, in the post war era almost every man could reliably meet and settle down with a woman. Population is 50/50 so monogamy suggests everyone sho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 04:19 PM
2	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating It sounds like your main problem is that you live in LA.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 04:15 PM
5	Most average men would be happy with a healthy weight, average looking women. But the obesity rates of men vs women are similar. If it was the only factor then average women should also be claiming that they can’t meet men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 03:37 AM
1	Does giving women less attention work? Step 1) Swear off bullshit and start having your own life, pursuing your own hobbies, developing your own character. Step 2) Exclusively engage in work or hobbies that are populated 100% by men. Also rarely leave your house otherwise because you’re focusing on YOU, not the stupid world! Step 3) Theoretically be an attractive, confident man that most women would be interested in, but, realize you actually have even less prospects than you did before because now you’re never even around women in t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 02:44 AM
1	Question for conservative men: Would you ever raise another man's child? Yeah, in a few cases only though: 1) One of my best friends dies and me and his wife end up together. Yeah you bet your ASS I’d raise my best friend’s daughter, she’s already like a niece to me anyway. 2) The other man is actually me. 3) I killed him first.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 02:39 AM
1	Question for Men: What would you do if you were a woman? Squeeze my tits.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 02:36 AM
3	Trad Wife Tourism A running theme in the thread is suggesting that foreign women only appear or act more traditional because they’re desperate. That may be true in some cases but, I’ve been to developed East Asian countries (Korea and Japan), and they aren’t desperate. Their culture and the average person’s behaviour and values just happens to be different than ours. We wouldn’t have distinct cultures if every culture was the exact same other than architecture or something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 02:35 AM
2	Men and women cannot be friends because the woman would still expect the man to do all the same stuff that a boyfriend or husband would do. It’s impossible to be friends if one has unrequited feelings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 02:22 AM
1	Women don't make dating appealing to the below average men Agreed. It’s one thing to of course not be a total deadbeat who puts absolutely no effort into anything and expects a free ride. The dating equivalent would be an incel. But, there are a lot of people out there putting in an honest, reasonable effort who are just getting absolutely left in the dust by modern society, and I think that’s something worth talking about. I’m not saying we should enslave women and assign them to men to balance it out, obviously lol, but, at the very least having a con…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 02:20 AM
2	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating I get it, there’s challenges and frustrations, men can be hypocritical and have unreasonable standards, men can be physically threatening in a way most women can’t be towards men. But in all of this there’s one key factor underlying everything that you’re underestimating. That factor is your role in the “search” for the “diamond”. As an (attractive) woman, your role is fairly passive. Men come to you. Your job is to sort through them, which sure can be a bitch. But, you’re never going to be want…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 01:14 AM
1	lost... seeking no more pills Fomo has definitely cost me some good relationships. But you learn from your mistakes, makes you value the next relationship more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 12:46 AM
1	lost... seeking no more pills I don’t mind, we can keep talking if you want. Being dumped over something like that can definitely create an insecurity, I get it. Completely natural and understandable. Just try not to let it ruin your prospects going forward, it’s definitely not all men that think that way or would do that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 12:27 AM
1	lost... seeking no more pills I get the OCD can mess with your head. I’d say don’t worry about things you can’t control. You’ll get older, men will get older. The right person will stick with you. And if you stay reasonably healthy you’re gonna look fine well into your 30s and 40s anyway, long enough to outlast a man’s libido hahaha.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 12:19 AM
1	lost... seeking no more pills I’m sure we’d all love the fountain of youth to be real. But the thing is, time comes for us all. Generally speaking men and women date in and around their age range, and we don’t just dump a woman because she got older. It might be meaningful for a man to start off dating a girl when she’s a bit younger because like I said there are some logistical advantages to having more time. Plus, when a man is out looking, it’s only natural he will shoot for a young girl he finds attractive. But once in t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 12:10 AM
-2	Are women's height requirements getting higher? Maybe. But I remember one time height came up and I’d forgotten I fibbed about it on my dating profile, and I mentioned something about height and how tall the other dudes were around, and she was like, “yeah but you’re still six feet at least”. I think it’s just skewed. Women think dudes my height are 6 ish feet, and 6+ foot tall guys are giant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 12:03 AM
2	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating That said, the average woman is still more highly valued in society than the average man. You’re talking about a truly unattractive woman, for her to not have abundant options. I’ve seen the profiles of overweight women with kids and they still have far more options than even an average man (let alone an ugly man).	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 11:56 PM
1	lost... seeking no more pills If I was dating a 22 year old girl (17 is legal where I live but that’s not a road I wanna go down hahaha), then if the relationship is good, I’ll stick with her forever. The benefit of dating a younger girl isn’t just physical attraction, it’s also because it’s gives you both more time before the ol biological clock starts ticking, putting pressure if you want to have your own child. I’d say when most men are happy in a relationship they don’t look for other women. Some men do, but often these …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 11:53 PM
1	lost... seeking no more pills Ask away. I’m not unsympathetic to women’s concerns. It’s not easy for anyone at the end of the day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 11:41 PM
1	lost... seeking no more pills If I have a choice I’ll definitely date a girl younger than me but I’m not talking like Leo style haha. My last serious gf was actually older than me. Most recent girl I dated was only 3 years younger. If you’re over 30 as a woman your options will go down a bit but it’s not game over by any means.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 11:33 PM
1	lost... seeking no more pills I think men want the average of all of these things. Reasonably cute, reasonably feminine, reasonably loyal, reasonably nice, reasonably smart, reasonably fun. If you made a composite perfect woman she would probably be a cute girl next door type, not some model.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 11:26 PM
4	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating I get that but until you’ve experienced how crushing it is to have no options you’ll never fully grasp how good it is to have some options. There are plenty of people in mediocre or even abusive relationships because being with someone is still often better than being alone, especially for long periods of time. And at the end of the day, your effort is in the form of filtering out your options and finding good ones. You have to sift through shit and hope you find a diamond. A man has to dig thro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 11:03 PM
1	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating No, then you’ve got about the same odds as the average man, I suppose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 10:54 PM
1	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating That’s irrelevant. The topic is putting effort into getting dates or into a relationship. An attractive girl doesn’t have to put any effort in to date a sub-par man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 10:53 PM
2	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating There’s a zero percent chance any of them men who have been through this would tell you. I’ve told not a single person IRL and I’ve been through it, and I’m “above average” depending on how you’re measuring it. Above average height, income, looks, wealth, interesting hobbies, etc. if I’ve been through it, millions of other men have too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 10:50 PM
-2	Are women's height requirements getting higher? I’ve rounded up to 6 from my 5’10-11”-ish many times and never been called on it, haha. But then I guess that makes me part of the problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 10:49 PM
32	Are women's height requirements getting higher? Honestly I think it’s just that women don’t know how tall six feet actually is lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 08:45 PM
7	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating Sure I get that. But, if that is the case, you’re really doing yourself a favour because it shouldn’t be hard at all to find a man in the “average” category, especially if you yourself are above average. It’d be like the equivalent of me dating an overweight woman or a single mom. Pretty easy compared to trying to date the ones I actually like. If anything, a woman in your situation with your interests should be able to just throw a stone in any direction and hit a man who meets your requirement…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 08:36 PM
54	R*peplay is such a common fetish with women because they crave being dominated I’ve had a few girlfriends who liked being dominated a bit (nothing fucked up, never was into rape fantasies or BDSM and shit). I think girls like it when a man is powerful and dominant, but they don’t want you to be unhinged or aggressive. A couple past gfs loved playfighting and they loved if I won, but of course they didn’t want me to actually hurt them or anything. I think they enjoyed the fact that I was strong enough to overpower them or hold them down, but I loved them and chose never to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 08:25 PM
2	Are women allowed to do things without it being associated with ‘red flags’ or what men want? Everything everyone does is judged by everyone. If a woman travelling reduces her options because some men think she’s too free spirited or promiscuous, then that’s just life. Women reject or judge men for various reasons too, some even more silly than that. At the end of the day, you can’t force anyone to accept or desire you. You have to make decisions and live the life you want, and try to fill in the gaps as applicable. If your hobbies and lifestyle make you unappealing to people for dating,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 08:18 PM
1	Women don't make dating appealing to the below average men That’s true but it’s also a feedback loop. If your self esteem has been crushed by rejection or lack of ability to succeed at the level you believe reasonable, then you’ll naturally acquire a “woe is me” attitude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 08:14 PM
3	Women don't make dating appealing to the below average men Not if he’s Keanu Reeves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 08:14 PM
9	Women don't make dating appealing to the below average men A big issue with dating these days is the same issue we have in many areas of modern society. There is no more “reasonable qualification”. For example, jobs these days are hard to come by unless you have a degree and years of experience. In the past, there were more entry level positions. Dating is similar. No one is saying you shouldn’t have to have value, but it’s hard to deny that the expectations for reasonable achievement in life is becoming increasingly difficult to actually attain.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 08:13 PM
0	Women don't make dating appealing to the below average men It’s because in the West things are drastically skewed in favour of women. Personally I understand it and it doesn’t bother me on a moral level or anything. But, I do find it kind of funny how generally speaking, women here will tell you “too bad, git gud”, but then when a man dates a foreign woman or goes to a foreign country where they’re more desirable, everyone calls them names and tries to shame them. I’ve had far better success with dating immigrant women than born and raised Canadians. A …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 08:09 PM
1	Their is no incentive to date as a man I think a big problem is that too many people have a bit of a romanticized idea of a relationship, especially young people or people who haven’t been in a relationship for long. When you’re young and/or when a relationship is fresh, all the lovey dovey feelings are more than enough to carry you forward. But after a while, you realize that a relationship with a women, as beautiful and nice as she may be, is still on some level a business arrangement based on transactions. I think what many men ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 07:37 PM
7	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating A big problem men face is if they don’t meet women when they’re in school and if their workplace isn’t conducive to meeting women, it becomes very difficult to meet them. OLD is a shitshow, and social settings like bars, clubs, etc are tough to succeed in if you’re not naturally attractive or charismatic. Many men “missed the boat” and now it’s very hard to successfully meet women and get into a relationship. Also rejection effects men greatly since their options are fairly limited so one reject…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 07:20 PM
3	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating It’s a known psychological fact that having many options (with anything not just dating) makes it a lot harder to make a choice. Women online have so many options that it’s no surprise they don’t put much effort into any one person, or have difficulty settling on one person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 07:18 PM
14	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating It’s a case of someone who’s dying of thirst watching someone else drown. Still, most women have no idea what it really feels like to have no options. People don’t typically kill themselves over being too popular or being too saturated attention. I understand it can be annoying and frustrating but, loneliness and the feeling of being unwanted is a truly crushing experience that many men experience and few women do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 07:08 PM
11	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating I’ve had outlier experiences as well, in particular with immigrant women from more “traditional” cultures. They seem far more likely to pause or delete their profiles and make a strong effort to focus on you, and they’ll let you know if it’s not working out. I find western women are more likely to treat dating and especially online dating like Netflix, just browsing casually, maybe watching a show for a few mins then switching or watching multiple shows at the same time. Very different mindset t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 07:06 PM
4	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating Men are desperate for female attention. You wouldn’t have to put much effort in, most guys mistake basic friendliness for flirting so you basically just have to acknowledge men’s existence and eventually one will ask you out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 07:00 PM
2	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating Not to mention blue states will still retain all the same abortion rights as before. An interesting case study would be to see if there is a notable difference in dating ease and success between red and blue states. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say I doubt it since the discrepancies between men and women’s dating experiences have almost nothing to do with birth control. It’s all about social status and relative value.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 06:59 PM
5	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating No one had a problem dating in the 50s when people were even more against abortion than now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 06:56 PM
5	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating You’re not considering the fact that women can often get what they want without HAVING to put effort in. If I could score a hot girlfriend who is nice to me without having to do much, I probably would. Why wouldn’t you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 06:52 PM
11	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating Women generally have many times the number of options, especially on OLD. If you can’t find a man who is willing to put the effort in, you’re either not filtering options well, or you’re one of the unfortunate minority of women who is actually not very popular or attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 06:43 PM
7	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating I’ve had good relationships with women I genuinely loved but, I’d have to say they never put 50% effort in. I’m not saying I put all the effort in but it was at best 60-40. It’s possible you could meet a woman who puts equal or greater effort into the relationship as you do but, in my and many men’s experience it’s simply not the case. They will always have more options than you therefore they have no real reason to ever be as into you as you are to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 06:41 PM
32	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating That woman would have to put less than zero effort in to get a dude like that though. Some attractive women like to date ugly/insecure men because they’re easy to dominate. Women are not usually physically abusive or dominate compared to men but they can definitely be psychologically and emotionally manipulative and abusive. Some women will target low self esteem men and turn them into slaves. I’ve seen it happen many, many times.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 06:39 PM
14	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating Women in the West don’t have to make an effort, that’s why they don’t. If you travel to a poorer country like the Philippines, you’ll see the script flip completely. And don’t get me wrong I’m not advocating sex tourism or something but, in those countries women will chase you and do a lot of shit to attract you. They become “simps” towards men because they see foreign men as wealthy, high value, and a ticket out of their countries. In the West, it’s men who are horny and desperate for women, th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 06:36 PM
1	If you complain about “high n count slutty girls are no good for commitment”, it’s stupid to also complain about girls who dont fuck until the relationship is exclusive. Agreed. I’m at a point in my life where if a girl doesn’t want to have sex on the second or third date, my attraction towards her actually increases. Easy women are fun and all but, I’m definitely more interested in forming a real relationship with someone who is patient and values their body enough to want to wait and be more sure of the relationship first.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 06:34 PM