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Having a plan for where you’ll go and what you’ll do. Telling her where and when to show up. Pretty much being the leader. Also making the first date super low key and not having any expectations - drinks, coffee, walks, checking out a farmers market etc. are way better than dinner or some other elaborate plan. Make the stakes super low.
/r/seduction04/11/24 09:46 PM
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Check out “Beyond Satisfied” by Kenneth Play. You’re welcome.
/r/seduction04/11/24 09:37 PM
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You have to start small and work your way up. You’re trying to think 10 steps ahead when you have to start at step 1. The old school method is to ask strangers for directions or to give compliments. Do this 10 times in a row and you’ll see that most people around you don’t really care. Second, you have to start going out. Just pick a fun sounding event in your city and go check it out one night. Set a goal to chat with 5 people when you’re out. Don’t go out with your unsupportive friend. They wi…
/r/seduction03/11/24 08:42 PM
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Assume that girls are into you until proven otherwise. It’s her job to reject you, don’t reject yourself. Obviously, if she’s visibly uncomfortable then tone it back. But if you’re shy then your problem is not being forward enough. You have to turn it up a few notches to find where the limit is. Also, yes other men will judge you. It comes with the territory. They are jealous that you have the balls to talk to the cuties and they don’t. Ignore them.
/r/seduction03/11/24 08:35 PM
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Yes it’s definitely part of the process. Approaching women is data collection. It sounds like you’ve identified your sticking point - moving beyond friendly to sexual. Start trying to push your interactions in that direction and keep learning. Find your next sticking point and work on that. Never stop learning.
/r/seduction03/11/24 08:28 PM
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If she does something goofy and you’re teasing about it: “It’s a good thing you’re cute.” If you’re having a lighthearted disagreement and the vibe is right: “It would never work out between us, it would be nothing but fights and makeup sex.” If she says she’s going home soon: “I can’t go home with you, I’m too shy.”
/r/seduction02/11/24 04:06 PM
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I think the main thing is a convenient and comfortable place for you to both sit. A sectional couch with blankets/pillows is ideal. Bring her over, get her something to drink, sit on the couch to watch a show or just listen to music. Chill and flirt with her on the couch, make your move. If things escalate, move her to the bedroom and do the deed. Bedroom should have a dim warm light - a small lamp or one of those IKEA paper lamps. Bed made, clean sheets, and a comfy duvet. Clean bathroom with h…
/r/seduction31/10/24 12:13 AM
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Girls will “test” you when all the cards are down. She will pull away and do LMR just to see how you react. If you react and get butt hurt at ALL, she will think you want it “too much”. She’d rather that you don’t care one way or another if sex happens - you want it and push for it, but if it doesn’t happen, you’re 100% cool with that too. It’s a fine line to draw, one that I mess up many times myself. But once you nail it and have ZERO reaction to her tests, …
/r/seduction30/06/24 12:51 AM
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Didn’t decide I wanted that until recently.
/r/seduction07/06/24 06:03 AM
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I relate with this pretty heavily man. Broke up with my girl 5 years ago to pimp it and haven’t met anyone as good since. Can I ask how old you are? Reason being is that I’m actually ok being single and working on my own thing, I have game so I can reliably pull cute girls. It’s not a bad lifestyle. But landing a LTR with a high quality woman has proven difficult and I’m starting to feel like I’m running out time to find a wifey to start a family with. I’m 32 for reference.
/r/seduction06/06/24 10:40 PM
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From what you just said here, I would say try and lock her down. It’s honestly so hard to find a girl these days that’s attractive, loyal, genuine, sweet/nurturing, isn’t a “party girl” trying to get onto rich guy’s yachts, doesn’t post thirst traps on insta etc. If you live the player lifestyle, you’ll eventually want to find a girl that has good character anyway, so if you have that now, don’t give it up. If you aren’t super jazzed about your current girl, that’s a different story.
/r/seduction06/06/24 10:20 PM
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No worries. I had the same thing happen to me a few years ago - too many women and not enough time in the week to date them all individually. Only way to get to the next level is to do this.
/r/seduction03/06/24 05:12 AM
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You have to start doing social circle game. Basically start organizing social events and invite a bunch of people to them. Invite all the girls and introduce them to each other. Act like it’s no big deal and you’re used to having lots of beautiful women around. They will all get insanely attracted and compete for your attention because of your preselection and status within the group. This is where threesomes and other crazy shit can start to happen.
/r/seduction02/06/24 08:52 PM
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Not much you can do about it so no point in getting flustered by it. If you don’t like girls posting for attention and validation, don’t give it to them. Don’t be one of those guys that likes their posts and sends 🔥emojis. Spend your time and attention on girls that you’re interested in. If they don’t reciprocate then move on. Let the girls do what they gunna do.
/r/seduction28/05/24 02:23 AM
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For sure, 1.5 - 2 hrs is not bad. I’ve had tons of successful first dates in that time range. I’ve just had a little more success recently with shortening the dates even more because you can give her a highly concentrated taste of your personality, screen her to see what she’s like, and make her want to see you again very quickly. I also usually tell her to meet me at a coffee shop or park close to my place so it’s literally 5 min away.
/r/seduction24/05/24 06:22 PM
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I just straight up call. I usually get her number, text her, and wait for her reply. As soon as I get a text back I will call because I know she has her phone in her hand. I just start talking like it’s completely normal and we’re shooting the shit. Ask her a few questions kinda of like I’m screening to make sure she’s cool before setting up a date. Then just say “When are free to grab a coffee, does xyz time work for you?” Try to set it up 2 - 3 days later tops, the longer out it is, the more c…
/r/seduction24/05/24 06:12 PM
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Oh yeah, another thing - Don’t give your availability. Tell her where to show up and at what time. Ask her if that time works for her. If not, suggest another time until a time works. Don’t let her plan the date. If she does, she won’t show up. Give her shit if she’s more than 10 minutes late. If she’s more than 30 minutes late, get up and walk out. If she doesn’t show up or flakes last minute, don’t text her first. Wait for her to apologize. If she apologizes profusely and suggests to reschedul…
/r/seduction24/05/24 12:28 AM
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You’re getting ghosted because you’re investing too much too early. You always have to invest less than the girl at the start otherwise you come off as needy. It’s hard with dating apps because her investment always starts off in the basement - so it’s kind of a race to the bottom of who can care less + there’s almost no social repercussion for ghosting you. So I find with dating apps that you have to “bait her to invest”. The basic premise is that you value your attention and time more than you…
/r/seduction23/05/24 09:19 PM
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This is my experience too. It’s the same idea as having a “false time constraint” on opens. It puts you in the drivers seat and makes them chase you because your time is valuable and they have to fight for a piece of it. If you give away your time and attention for free, it’s not worth anything. Put a premium on your time, energy and attention fellas.
/r/seduction20/05/24 08:22 PM
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It’s a way to flex quickly and easily. If you’re a chick, you crave attention. The best way to get it en masse is to post thirst traps on the gram. If you’re a man, you can take some pictures with fancy cars, wear a nice suit, and get some hot girls around you. Now when a girl follows you, you’re creating intrigue and demonstrating value without lifting a finger. Both genders benefit from using it in their own ways.
/r/seduction14/05/24 06:22 PM
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Delete Tik Tok now. It is not representative of reality and will rot your brain.
/r/seduction11/05/24 05:58 PM
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Not enough info here to know “what went wrong” but yes this is very normal unfortunately. Most of the dates you go on from online dating don’t lead anywhere. Ghosting is normal
/r/seduction21/10/22 08:43 PM
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So far, it just keeps getting better and better. I thought I had figured a thing or two out around 24. Then I got into a multi year relationship which fucked me up. After things ended, I was 27 and thought I would be the “old guy” that no girls in their early 20s would be interested in. Nope, completely wrong. The game just keeps getting better. I mean, it’s all in your head, if you think you’re the washed up old guy then you are. But if you keep going out and learning, you learn new levels of t…
/r/seduction19/10/22 05:25 AM
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I’ve made posts about college game before but this is relevant enough to repeat: Don’t run game on college campus the way that YouTube gurus do on the street or at the club. You don’t want to have the reputation as the guy that ambushes chicks in the hallway. The reason why pickup guys have to approach women with very forward sexual intent is because they will probably never see her again. You have to be super gamey on the street because you don’t have any other option. When you’re at college yo…
/r/seduction15/10/22 01:46 AM
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You just have to break it down a little further. Just smile at people, look then in the eye and give them a head nod as you pass by. Then start saying “how’s it going” as you pass by. Then start doing walk-by compliments - “like your shirt!” , “nice hat” etc. then work your way up to stopping someone and having a convo with them. If you’re out for 3 hours, might as well take the first half hour doing warm ups.
/r/seduction26/09/22 04:29 AM
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Just enjoy the social environment and get into your own flow. Even if you’re just sitting there by yourself, the alternative would be that you’re home alone doing nothing. You’re already winning just by being there. Next, talk to the first people you see when you get into the bar, ask how their night is going. Even if the convo goes nowhere, you’ll instantly be in a more social mood. There’s no downside. Keep the momentum going and approach a group of girls, ask them how their night is going. Ch…
/r/seduction18/09/22 02:38 AM
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Intermediate advice. Advanced method is to act from a state of pro activity based on how you’d like to express yourself, not just doing things in a state of reaction to her behaviour.
/r/seduction17/09/22 08:27 AM
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Yeah bro all those chicks with resting bitch face be remembering what it’s like to come downstairs on Christmas morning to open presents
/r/seduction17/09/22 08:19 AM
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Thanks for sharing man! Some great advice and perspective to someone who loves this lifestyle. For all the people on here hating on it, see the tip about always staying positive. This is literally a sub about how to get laid and when someone who is actually successful at that you get butthurt and find some reason to hate. For the doubters, if you don’t think this is possible for you, then you’re right. Making comments about “he probably isn’t getting high quality girls”, “he’s just good looking”…
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:26 PM
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She either wants to make sure that her friend is with a cool guy or is she’s just a jealous bitch because her attractive friend gets all the shine and she doesn’t. One of these scenarios is a little harder to navigate as is expected. She will likely challenge you with shit tests, basically just have to hold your ground and pass the shit test in the same way you would any other girl. The key is not to get pulled into her negativity, if she starts getting up in your face and tries to get a reactio…
/r/seduction07/09/22 08:41 PM
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Never go for the “Goodnight kiss” at the end of a date. It almost always comes off like you’re expecting a little prize, like you didn’t have the balls to do go for it the entire time, and it puts way too much pressure on her to “confirm” that there’s something going on between you. Go for the first kiss during the date to get it out of the way and then it can be a fun activity that you both enjoy doing whenever you want. End of the date comes around and you should ideally should be talking abou…
/r/seduction31/08/22 10:42 PM
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I wouldn’t be afraid to tell her you do therapy but don’t dwell on it. You don’t want to unload your personal issues on her but at the same time it’s nothing to be ashamed of. Just something like “cool I do therapy too, yeah it really helps” -> change subject
/r/seduction13/08/22 04:06 AM
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Honestly man, I’d take the good with the bad and not sweat it too much. Coming from someone in his 30s you’ll look back at these times like some silly beef that you wish you still had because most of your friends have moved on, gotten married, had kids and now they’re boring. You’ll probably think how dumb it is that you considered not inviting your friend out because of this sort of thing and wish you could’ve kindled that friendship a little more by just kicking it, enjoying yourself and not w…
/r/seduction08/08/22 10:25 PM
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Yeah big generalization but the trend is a massive level of entitlement from young pretty women stemming from a constant validation feedback loop through social media apps and a persistent social narrative teaching them that men are oppressors. This fun combo can really influence a young lady to act like a brat to anyone that shows sexual interest in them.
/r/seduction03/08/22 09:08 PM
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You want to be doing it all the time to some degree, it’s basically the root of flirting.
/r/seduction30/07/22 11:01 PM
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To build sexual tension use push-pull. It basically means alternating between showing affection/approval and being cold/challenging. Pull could be something like complimenting her or hugging her. Push could be something like Disagreeing with her opinion or acting aloof. The idea is that if you’re all pull, you come off as needy, if you’re all push, you’re just a dick. Mixing it up makes it interesting and fun for her. You want to start off the night with light push-pull and build your way up to …
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:20 PM
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All good G! That’s why we go out and practice this shit so you know for next time!
/r/seduction30/07/22 10:20 AM
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Can’t tell you how many times this has happened to me. Took me a long time to figure out how to manage emotional momentum at the club. Basically when you start dancing and making out with her, you’re effectively spiking her emotions. If you spike her emotions too much too fast, there’s nowhere to go but down. If you just keep taking her onto the dance floor and making out, it becomes a cheap trick that loses its effectiveness, the vibe starts to go down and she starts to “not feel it”. Instead, …
/r/seduction30/07/22 10:12 AM
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Sometimes girls get like this and they have an insatiable appetite for dick. Then a few days later they aren’t as horny as before and kind of go cold. I don’t know the particulars but it sounds like you were a contact in her phone and just the one that she called on to satisfy her appetite at the time. I’d just take it as a good time and not read into too much. This is how the casual dating game tends to go
/r/seduction26/07/22 07:30 AM
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Generally speaking, the common “you’re nice but I’m just not feeling it” rejection comes from not being a leader and asserting yourself. This doesn’t mean being a dick, but it means she has to get a sense of who your are and what you stand for. You should be inviting her into your life, telling her where to show up and at what time, leading her from one venue to the next, stating your opinions plainly and openly even if she doesn’t always agree, Inviting her back to your place, and then going fo…
/r/seduction24/07/22 06:48 PM
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You could or you couldn’t. I don’t think it would make much of a difference. The main problem guys have is that they don’t go for the kids until eons after the moment has passed. If you have to ask for her permission to get more comfortable kissing girls on dates then go for it man!
/r/seduction21/07/22 08:35 PM
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Yes fucking go for it bro, worst case she gives you closure and you can move on to other girls and not wonder “what if” for the rest of your life
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:53 AM
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You can impress women by getting good at talking to women. Get out there and start practicing!
/r/seduction06/07/22 07:46 AM
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2 things: 1 - hot girls aren’t pressured to have personalities so they often don’t develop them. 2 - she is more I love with the “concept” of you than actually who you are. Same thing would happen to me when I sang in a band - girls would want to bang after the show but didn’t give a fuck about my actual personality because they already made up their mind about who I was as a person. (Not that I’m complaining, but that’s what it is)
/r/seduction30/06/22 01:51 AM
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If she’s into PUA, get her picking up chicks with you and get a 3some going
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:17 PM
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Good, go do your thing and make them jealous that you went home with a girl that night and they didn’t.
/r/seduction24/06/22 11:30 PM
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My rule is after the first cancellation I will give her one more chance ONLY if she apologizes and suggests to reschedule. If she doesn’t do both of those things I will immediately next her. If she apologizes and suggests to reschedule I will tell her “ok I’ll give you one more chance”. If she cancels again, she is done.
/r/seduction21/06/22 11:45 PM
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Don’t focus on one women. Get good with women in general and you will be good with her.
/r/seduction18/06/22 05:42 AM
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It depends on what you want out of your dating life. Like what do you REALLY want. A lot of guys think they just want mad puss 24/7 like that’s actually a lifestyle that you could sustain. Think about it, how many times can you really have sex in a day before your dick gets sore? Stack that day after day and you will actually get tired of sex. Don’t believe me? Get your dating life to that level and find out for yourself. The other common misconception is that it’s the good feeling on your dick …
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:30 PM
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Does it bother you that she does these things or that she tells you about them? At the end of the day, she’s going to do what she’s going to do. Don’t wait around for her to change cause it ain’t going it happen. But if you want to keep seeing her casually and don’t want to hear about the stuff she does on the side, just casually tell her you don’t want to hear about that shit. If she keeps tell you then move on. I would recommend not making her your gf because you don’t want a relationship wher…
/r/seduction14/06/22 06:54 PM
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One text doesn’t mean you’re in the friend zone. I mean maybe you are, but one text is not enough to determine that. If you want to know if you’re in the friend zone or not, invite her out to do something and make a move, hold her hand, go for the kiss, something romantic/sexual. If she accepts it, you’re golden. If she gives you the “I don’t really see you that way” talk then you’re in the friend zone. Which is also not bad btw, just means you now know where you stand and you can go after other…
/r/seduction19/05/22 10:12 PM
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My real advice is to get off the internet, stop listening to other peoples opinions, and get some real experience. PUA techniques came from guys pushing themselves and talking to THOUSANDS of women. You can get a head start by reading that stuff but there’s no substitute for experience. One guy says be yourself, another guy says be cocky funny. Cool, try one strategy on 100 approaches and the other one on 100 approaches, see what happens.
/r/seduction19/05/22 05:19 PM
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Make it a fun active date where touching is actually possible. No dinner dates where you sit across the table and can’t touch each other. At the very least get drinks and try to sit in a booth where you’re sitting more side by side. If you’re sitting across from her, tell her you want to show her some pictures and go sit next to her. Show her the pictures and just don’t move back. In a high point in the conversation (laughing, climax in a story, emotional spike of some sort) touch her on the arm…
/r/seduction17/05/22 05:12 AM
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Yeah sounds like you got it figured out. This is just a setting boundaries thing. If she doesn’t feel a boundary with her phone habit she will keep doing it because there is not repercussions. Everyone has different boundaries but in essence it’s the willingness to walk away. Personally, I would’ve politely asked her to put the phone away one time. If she picked it up again 5 min later to mindlessly scroll I would pay my own bill (not hers) and walk out. Yes gents, you’re allowed to walk out mid…
/r/seduction14/05/22 05:52 AM
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For sure, I know you’re not writing a scientific paper here! & I actually think you’re making a valid point. The dating sphere is very messed up right now. It’s hard to put your finger on it because so many macro events all coming together to mess things up. I think dating apps, social media and technology all have a big part to play in it.
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:59 PM
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This is a test group of 2 women. 2 data points is not enough to make a mass generalization Iike this. You might be onto something with the crazy dog people tho. The crazy cat/dog/horse woman has usually been hurt in the past and derives a sense of connection from her pet. Because the pet is incapable of abandoning or hurting her emotionally.
/r/seduction11/05/22 02:09 PM
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If you live in a major city, you will never see or interact with 90% of people ever again. The other 9% maybe you’ll see them again but they probably won’t care about you nor does it matter what they think about you. The last 1% it only marginally matters what they think of you (I’m hesitant to say it doesn’t matter at all) So most of this fear is irrational. To get over it, approach women when other people are watching. Show yourself that you can do it and nothing bad happens.
/r/seduction10/05/22 05:31 PM
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Make yourself as physically attractive as possible with gym, nutrition, and style/image. Go out and interact with as many women as possible. Express your desire to be physically intimate with them without shame and as respectfully as possible. Fully accept that the vast majority of women will not take you up on the offer. However, you will eventually start to find the women that are on the same page. They are out there.
/r/seduction10/05/22 04:55 PM
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“Want to grab drinks sometime?” If she says yes, immediately suggest a place and a time. If that time doesn’t work for her, keep suggesting times that work for you until you find a time that works for you both. It doesn’t have to be an expressed “date”. She gets the picture that you’re asking her out. If she flakes on the date, my personal rule is to give her 1 more chance and reschedule ONLY if she is apologetic AND she suggests to reschedule. If she doesn’t show up, she’s done. If she does not…
/r/seduction09/05/22 10:16 PM
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Because hot girls on the internet don’t need to be interesting to get attention. They get tons matches and dudes hitting them up with the same shit over and over. Take the lead and get her off the app and into a real conversation as fast as possible. Otherwise you’ll be just another thirsty dude on a dating app to her.
/r/seduction18/04/22 05:15 PM
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Man I feel you here. The hard reality of learning game is that you will likely be weird and awkward with girls for a lot longer than you anticipate or think you can tolerate. Learning game is a journey of the soul. Unless you’re born really good looking or learned these skills when you were really young, the price you pay to get good with girls is to be utterly humiliated in front of them hundreds of times probably for a couple of years at least. The pickup coaches won’t tell you that because it…
/r/seduction08/03/22 03:23 AM
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Disqualify yourself. Tell her your dick is a like a little wet carrot that’s left out of the fridge too long. Qualifying yourself on dick size never works unless you’re actually packing a python
/r/seduction26/01/22 07:30 PM
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Good on you for noticing this as it will serve you well to be aware of it. The reason for this kind of jealousy is multifaceted and fairly complex, but a lot of it stems down to the phenomenon known as “betamale shaming.” For her to rationalize why she rejected you, she has to classify you as a somewhat betamale so her biology/emotions will agree with her logic -> “I didn’t pass up a great opportunity to be with a stud, I made the right choice because I can do better than him.” As soon as you go…
/r/seduction20/01/22 12:26 AM
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Good point lots of guys don’t laid simply because they don’t go out. But I want to point out how that clearly isn’t the ONLY reason why. If you’re unattractive and you show up in a sea full of women, none of those women will be attracted to you so it won’t matter if you meet 100 or 1000 or 1,000,000. You still have to work on yourself and become attractive. Social skills are attractive yes, but if you’re forcing yourself into social situations without first accepting and loving yourself, it will…
/r/seduction10/01/22 07:25 PM
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How to pick up beautiful women: Be confident be charming be attractive be yourself Seduce her Guys we just solved the game…
/r/seduction06/12/21 06:42 PM
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I wouldn’t do this because, generally speaking you want to keep communication channels open. You don’t want to play games because high value girls can sense when you’re doing that. If you don’t have anything else to say, it doesn’t hurt to send a 👍 or 👌 to acknowledge that you received her message. If you just leave her unread, girls could take that as you’re ignoring her on purpose, that in combination with just forgetting about you because she has a life and other guys hitting her up. They wil…
/r/seduction01/12/21 11:44 PM
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Basically you need to put your sexual and intimate needs first. If she isn’t meeting them, it’s no hard feelings, but you have a responsibility to yourself to get them met elsewhere. If she wants to sleepover but isn’t interested in sex, then she shouldn’t have an issue with you having another girl over for sex right? If it is a problem, then she’s being selfish and doesn’t care about your sexual/intimate wellbeing.
/r/seduction20/10/21 06:16 PM
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Dude I’ve actually got this too. I’ve gone on several stints where I’m sleeping with multiple girls per week. It’s not super complicated. Just dial in your fitness regimen so you look good naked, buy some new clothes, get over your fear of approaching beautiful women in any environment, and carve out a bunch of time to go out constantly. Do this for a couple months and you’ll start to get momentum and get laid lots. The funny thing that always happens is that you start resenting the process beca…
/r/seduction17/10/21 03:53 AM
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One of the sexiest things you can do is to be comfortable and accepting of your sexuality. To express yourself fully in bed, to just “let go”. Let your freaky side come out. Communicate, say the dirty shit that pops into your mind, ask him what he wants, tell him what you like. I’m sure this is all easier said than done haha. But sexual insecurity is a massive turnoff in my experience.
/r/seduction04/10/21 07:07 PM
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You will never truely understand what is going on in a woman’s head so the first thing is to let that be a beautiful mystery for the rest of your life😊. But from a game perspective, the issue usually lies in your frame and intention more so than your actual statement. When you tell a girl that you like her and expect something in return, you’re putting a lot of pressure on her and setting up the interaction for awkwardness when she doesn’t give the reaction you expect. The more gushing the confe…
/r/seduction22/07/21 08:44 PM
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If you were a gruff caveman type guy people would chirp you for that too. You are what you are, own it. If people make fun of you just agree and amplify. It should be amusing to you that people have preconceived ideas about who and what you are. It has no bearing on who you are as a person.
/r/seduction22/07/21 08:25 PM
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If you do either one of those personas to “get” a result, you will be coming across as needy and reaching. It’s the same as the age old debate between being nice or an asshole. The answer is to do neither - be internally validated. Disconnect from needing other people’s approval and act for your own approval.
/r/seduction22/07/21 08:18 PM
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If you’re already friendly then she knows you like her. Girls have a 6th sense for that shit so might as well just ask her out! Next time you’re chatting say something like “I know this might seem really random because we work together and everything but I think you’re cute af, want to go out sometime?” If she says yes or ok, then suggest a place and a time -> “ok cool, let’s get drinks at x place on Thursday 8oclock, sound good?” If she says no or idk or I have a boyfriend or anything like that…
/r/seduction22/07/21 08:13 PM
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Women with low self-esteem are a source of headaches and drama and should be avoided in your dating life if you value your time, energy, and attention.
/r/seduction22/07/21 07:56 PM
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You most likely have insecurities around women and Sex. No worries, most guys do. But you have to find out what they are and get over them. Insecurity and self-sabotage are like holding your foot on the break while you’re trying to hit the gas. If you’re good looking and girls already show you interest, you just need to take your foot off the break and coast down the hill
/r/seduction22/07/21 07:52 PM
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Not really. Trying to maintain social value by waiting a predefined period before contact is kind of a cheap trick. High value people don’t follow rules like “wait x days before texting”. A high value man gos for what he wants and takes initiative to lead the interaction in a fun direction. The greater risk in bar and club game IMO is that you don’t strike while the iron is hot. Any risk of coming off needy by texting too soon will be overshadowed by the risk of her getting back into her logical…
/r/seduction22/07/21 03:24 PM
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Don’t give up so easy lol. Persistence is key in game. You have to regain control of this interaction. She says let’s do mini-golf, say fuck that I have a better idea, let’s do bowling, if you can beat me I’ll buy first round, meet me there Thursday at 8. It’s a weird psychological thing, but when you take the lead she will be much more likely to show up.
/r/seduction21/07/21 09:55 PM
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I would say the approach is pretty much the same - establish a strong connection man to woman and escalate. Just be honest with your intentions when the “what are you looking for” conversation comes up.
/r/seduction21/07/21 09:35 PM
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Basically it’s your job as the guy to approach. Girls will almost never do it. It definitely sounds like she likes you so the good news is that you don’t have to do anything special to attract her, all you have to do is start the interaction so nature can take its course. There is never a perfect time to go up to her. It will always be nerve wracking, there will almost always be a chance of embarrassment. But that’s what makes it so awesome. It takes balls to go up to a girl that you like. So ne…
/r/seduction21/07/21 09:30 PM
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Try to define the reason for getting her contact information so it’s not just a token number. Bar game is high energy, emotional communication, body language dependant and there is often alcohol involved. She’s probably given her number to at least a few other guys if she’s hot and it’s a busy night. So you have to do something to anchor yourself into her logical mind otherwise she ain’t picking up the phone or returning your texts the next day. So with that in mind: 1. If you’re trying to pull …
/r/seduction21/07/21 08:53 PM
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So many times as I got into my older 20s did I think I would become too old” for younger women. As it turns out, TONS of young women like older men. I’m talking girls in the 18 - 21 yr/old range with practically follow you home and jump on your dick if you know game. Late 20s is not old. I think right now is a perfect time for you to get good at game. To answer your question: Game doesn’t just give you the experience of “tons of sex”, it give you INSIGHT and OPTIONS. If you don’t have the abilit…
/r/seduction21/07/21 08:24 PM
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Clubs aren’t for everyone, there is nothing wrong with you if you’re one of those people. I will say though that many guys don’t go to clubs because they suck at club game and let their ego get hurt when they don’t get good results. Instead of going back and getting better, they rationalize that they don’t like clubs to protect their ego. In fact, most guys never get good at game in general for this exact reason. I can’t tell you whether you truly don’t like the club or if you’re rationalizing, …
/r/seduction21/07/21 08:01 PM
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Nerves are absolutely normal. Just breath and smile and enjoy the moment, anxiousness and everything. If she is comfortable enough to come back to your place, it will not be out of place at all to make a move on her. It’s your job to make the move, the girl will almost never do it first. When you sit down to watch the movie, put your arm around her right away to establish some physical contact. Then maybe 10/15 min in, go for the kiss. There never is really a perfect time to kiss her. So just em…
/r/seduction07/07/21 06:11 PM
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Totally agree with this, just want to point out that as you go out more and talk to more women you should be getting a better success rate. For Janka, maybe the first 1,000 approaches got him laid twice. But the next 1,000 got him laid 10 times. That would average out to a bad success rate but it is going up over time. Eventually your success rate will plateau because you’ll never be %100 successful. But this is one of reasons I believe so many guys get frustrated and quit - it’s an exponential …
/r/seduction10/06/21 03:01 PM
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This guy games 😎
/r/seduction10/06/21 02:49 PM
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Comfort is one stage in the seduction process , it doesn’t necessarily build attraction, but you’re right in that it’s an important part of the process. But strong attraction and qualification have to take place before comfort will help in seduction
/r/seduction20/02/21 12:14 AM
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You should be getting to the point on the first date where she wants to have sex with you. That doesn’t mean you should always have sex on the first date. But the reason that you don’t have sex should be because you choose to make her wait, NOT because she doesn’t want to. If you turn her on so much that she goes home thinking about having sex with you, she’ll come back for more. When she comes back for more, give her good sex and she’ll come back for more good sex. And on and on and that’s how …
/r/seduction22/01/21 04:10 AM
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Here’s to hoping she actually shows up😉 Either way, treat yourself to a fun night out, girl or no girl, have fun , that’s all you can do, the rest is out of your control
/r/seduction13/01/21 01:43 AM
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First of all, always assume women are attracted to you. From now on, everything is an IOI. This should be your default assumption unless proven otherwise. As for understanding when women are horny, look into the concept of Buying Temperature. It’s the idea that when a woman gets turned on, her attraction is transferable to other men. This is why you can swoop in at the end of the night when a girl has been grinding with other guys all night. Basically, when she’s turned on, she wants to fuck, it…
/r/seduction05/01/21 07:14 AM
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Depends what kind of rejection you’re talking about. If you try to kiss her on a date and she just moves her head away, try again later. If you ask her out and she says she’s not interested, better to move on. Is it possible to turn an interaction around? Yes, almost always. But theres a point of diminishing returns where you’re efforts are better spent on pursuing other options. You have to find that point so you can strike a balance between being persistent and moving on. This comes with pract…
/r/seduction05/01/21 06:58 AM
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Basically don’t give a fuck about those kinds of comments. Agree and amplify - “yeah he looks hot, you should grab his number. Actually, how about that guy with the sweater vest? He looks more your type”. “Hey sweater vest guy come over here I want you to meet someone...” Walk her around the bar and try to set her up with dorky guys for a while until she gets the point that you don’t care about her little comments that are supposed to make you jealous.
/r/seduction05/01/21 06:45 AM
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Assume everything that women do is an indicator of interest. You can never know for sure what women are thinking so you take the most confident, self-esteem building mindset possible and run with it. Also, by assuming women find you attractive, you’ll find that your interactions start to become self-fulfilling prophecies - if you believe you’re attractive, you will behave attractively. Self esteem, confidence, and mindset are all key tenets of inner game.
/r/seduction01/01/21 06:51 PM
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Don’t play into her frame, you’re the prize, she has to impress you. Your frame should be something like “aww you’re actually trying to make fun of me, that’s cute.” If a girl called me ugly out at the bar I would probably start joking around and flirting with her friends and make her feel so left out that she try’s to get my attention back. Then when she tries to get back in on the conversation, ignore her at first, then tease her about being a trouble maker, and then finally allow her to win y…
/r/seduction01/01/21 06:30 PM
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First of all, shit tests are a good thing. It means she’s giving you an opportunity to prove yourself. So there’s nothing really to “avoid” as you put it. Shit tests should become a fun part of the process. Secondly, age is not something you can control so there’s no point in worrying about it. Pretty soon, you’ll be in your 30s and 40s and girls will be calling you old. The solution is the same -> keep talking to girls that you’re interested in and don’t worry about it. For actually passing the…
/r/seduction01/01/21 06:12 PM
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A couple strategies come to mind for me, a simple one and a more complex one: Just simply dress up and wear brightly coloured shirts with a couple too many buttons undone. It instantly makes you stand out and come off more sexually. Be a man that stands for something and don’t be afraid to offend people. I don’t mean offend people on purpose. But just state your true thoughts and intentions and let people react how ever they want to, they won’t always approve of you but that’s fine. This will po…
/r/seduction29/12/20 07:48 PM
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In short, they have no game. Guys like this don’t know how to interact with women sexually/romantically/intimately because they lack social awareness and are probably very insecure about not having success with women. Instead of going on an introspective journey to learn about themselves and how they come across to the women they interact with, they just throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks. Why? Because of ego. It’s so much easier to delude yourself into thinking you have game than to go o…
/r/seduction29/12/20 12:36 AM
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Read papers on evolutionary biology
/r/seduction28/12/20 07:19 PM
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The biggest thing you can do is lead the interaction. Lead it to where exactly? Anywhere. Take her on an adventure, come up with fun ideas and bring her into your world. Or don’t make it an adventure. Make it chill. Take her for drinks. The easiest and simplest date possible to make. Do anything really! But for god sakes just LEAD! And skillfully come up with a good enough social reason to get her into a place of isolation. Her place, your place, hotel room, doesn’t matter. Then MAKE A MOVE! For…
/r/seduction27/12/20 10:14 PM
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How much is your time and attention worth to you? If you let women flake on you twice and you’re still talking to them, you are really not respecting yourself. Here’s a good rule of thumb. If a girl flakes on you once, she’s done. UNLESS she is very apologetic and makes an effort to setup another date. Then you can give her another chance but she takes a lower priority on your list of who you spend time with. If she flakes twice, she’s just done. Don’t get upset with flakes because your state of…
/r/seduction27/12/20 08:46 PM
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Yes and no. Looks are not something you can change. But charisma is something you can work on. There’s often so much subtlety going on in a successful guy’s communication that you have to pay close attention. It’s easy to reduce his success to innate characteristics, but there are conversely guys that have the physical attributes but have suboptimal results with women. Game is a very subtle art, there are always things you can learn from watching other successful guys.
/r/seduction27/12/20 08:24 PM
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Yeah I think your approach makes sense. If your girls are showing up to dates at a reasonable rate, no need to increase the communication prior. I personally send a text the day before because I find that it’s good to keep communication channels open to reduce flakiness. Just a simple “excited to see/meet you tomorrow!”, assuming the date is still on. The other reason I do this is to gauge her response: if she doesn’t respond to this text, she’s probably not showing up and I’ll start making othe…
/r/seduction27/12/20 08:10 PM
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I would say say these substances can “enhance” your night, but there a couple huge caveats to using them in game. Think of it from a long term perspective: if you want to go out and get really good at socializing, it stands to reason that the more you go out, the better you’ll get. Realistically, it takes most guys between 6 months and a year of dedication to get good. If you want to have the longevity go out 3 or 4 nights a week, drinking and smoking when you’re out just ain’t going to work, yo…
/r/seduction22/12/20 04:25 PM
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It’s generally because of two things which are really symptoms of the same underlying issue: Because she wanted a man to dick her good and you pussied out. Because she plays coy to see if you will react and you fail the test. Both of these mean that you have some level of outcome dependence which is a turnoff for her. She wants to have sex with a guy that can take it or leave it. A guy that is attached to the outcome is *needy *which is essentially the essence of unattractiveness. If she loses a…
/r/seduction06/10/20 04:55 AM
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Try both and see what works better. The worst that happens is she moves her head away and there’s a moment of awkwardness. Not the end of the world and now you know for the next girl you try to kiss
/r/seduction30/09/20 08:57 PM
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Reading other people’s comments on here and there’s good advice. I want to add that telling/showing your man what you want is hot -> Take his hand and put it on your breast or ass. When you’re making out and getting into it, just start lightly dry humping. Just breath into it and move however feels go to you. After doing that for a bit, he’s probably half hard so just look him in the eye and say something lime “I want your cock”. He might say “ok” but if he doesn’t say anything that means “go fo…
/r/seduction10/09/20 04:41 PM
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Yes. She wanted you to kiss her, you didn’t and and now she thinks you’re a pussy for not going for it. Nothing to worry about, we’ve all been there at some point. But take this opportunity to learn what NOT to do next time . There’s a good saying that goes something like “If you get the feeling that she wants you to kiss her, you should’ve done it 10 min. ago.” Also, Nothing bad happens if she doesn’t kiss you back. Often times if a girl turns her head and doesn’t want to kiss you it just means…
/r/seduction01/08/20 05:58 AM
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Be open to new paradigms of understanding. Some information will only be useful to you when you hear it at the right time
/r/seduction25/07/20 03:42 AM
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I appreciate the thoughtfulness and insight. And I think it’s really cool that you’re open to being approached by men and understand how it can be anxiety provoking for them. I like what you are saying because it is coming from the woman’s perspective. I would never invalidate your perspective because I am not a woman. I have just been doing this stuff for a long time and can speak to what works from the man’s perspective. The reality is that the content of the opener is irrelevant. You can say …
/r/seduction27/06/20 07:21 PM
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That’s a pretty fair and honest assessment. I just want to shed some light on the reasoning behind “direct” approaching (stating your attraction at the beginning). Just because a guy is compelled to talk to you because of your looks doesn’t mean that that’s the only reason he’s open to meeting someone new. Think about it, if a guy is just sees you walking down the street and thinks “gee that girl is attractive, I wonder what she’s like...” the most authentic thing he could do is simply state tha…
/r/seduction26/06/20 12:45 AM
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Let’s just say it’s all relative and that there’s levels to this shit
/r/seduction23/06/20 06:12 AM
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Short answer, work on yourself. You see yourself down here, they’re up there. So move yourself from down here to up there with them, or even better, above them.
/r/seduction13/06/20 01:09 AM
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The first thing I want to say is you are ok. You are just fine for feeling the way you do and there is nothing “wrong” with you or this way of thinking. Let that sink in. Give yourself permission to just feel whatever you feel about yourself and girls and all that shit. Validate your own feelings and your own existence. You are a completely normal human man that is well on his way of his life journey. Self acceptance and internal validation are absolute MUSTS in self improvement and dating. When…
/r/seduction09/06/20 06:47 AM
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You’re game is either better than you think, or you’re good looking but have terrible pictures on tinder
/r/seduction03/06/20 04:49 PM
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Tinder strips the intricacies of seduction and attraction to 9 pictures and a 500 character bio. If you do well on tinder it’s because you’re good looking, not because you have game. If you don’t do well on tinder but you date attractive women in person, you are probably not that good looking but have great game.
/r/seduction03/06/20 02:29 AM
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This is an authentic women’s perspective guysRead this comment several times because it’s important. Beautiful women are often confident and insecure at the same time. This is why they crave SINCERITY. Not compliments. The guy who both compliments and criticizes her from an authentic place can be TRUSTED. A guy that speaks his opinion from his heart offers guidance, vision and decisiveness. Learn how to connect to your inner masculine wisdom and you’ll be like a breath of fresh air to women. As …
/r/seduction31/05/20 05:43 PM
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This reaks of rationalization for not wanting to put the work in at the gym. But I will entertain this line of reasoning: Dating and sex is inherently rewarding to one another’s biological drives. Your concept of “cynical bouts of casual sex” is no different than the sexual connection in a committed loving relationship. Attraction is an involuntary biological process. The idea that your soul mate will end up with you independent of sexual attraction is a fantasy. Attraction is always part of the…
/r/seduction31/05/20 05:18 PM
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Yeah that’s a valid point. I’m just responding to the problem that OP is having. This advice would prob not be helpful to a guy who has tons of fun conversations with females but can’t seem to sexualize them. In that case I would say focus on the end goal more. I’ve found it helpful in my own learning journey to segment skills in game -> having trouble escalating? Go out and escalate hard for 2 weeks straight. Can’t seem to make deep connections? Go out and do nothing but get in deep convos for …
/r/seduction28/05/20 08:42 PM
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Its easy to get trapped in thinking that our conversations with women need to have a purpose. You need to learn to have fun with convos for the sake of having them. This is a tricky shift because, in seduction, there is the obvious emphasis on trying to get laid from your interactions. Ironically, trying to GET something from the girl is unattractive. So what you have to do is set your motives aside and learn to have fun just bantering. This concept in game is actually really important - it’s ca…
/r/seduction28/05/20 04:21 PM
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This might be some of the best “women game” advice I think I’ve ever heard on this sub
/r/seduction26/05/20 06:12 AM
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I don’t think they want the videos out there because they’re too edgy and they want to distance RSD from the game stuff. Too much downside from potential media scandals. Tyler said on a video at some point that when the Julien Scandal went down people would track their events online and protest outside to harass attendees or just send deformative information to the conference buildings to try and cancel the events. Not to mention the death threats and everything Julien was getting on the daily. …
/r/seduction22/05/20 10:29 PM
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Don’t check your DMs to see if girls read your shit. Just send your message and forget about it yourself. Also keep in mind that girls are not rejecting “you” per say. Your social media profile is only a thin slice of your life. She is rejecting the current configuration of your pictures, posts, messages etc. This just means that there’s work to be done to improve your profiles. Thirdly, girls be cray. You will go insane trying to analyze why a girl did or didn’t message you back. It could be fo…
/r/seduction22/05/20 10:18 PM
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Yeah I completely turned my dating life around in 2015-2016 by following primarily RSD free content on YouTube. The claim that Tyler has no game seems a little blown out of proportion. But it does suck to hear all these stories of shady business practices. Hard to know what to make of it all
/r/seduction22/05/20 10:08 PM
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Most of Tyler’s good videos are gone. Like 90% of them. I learned SO much from Tyler’s free YouTube videos back in 2015 - 2016. The game stuff is completely scrubbed from YouTube. I hope there’s a torrent or something out there somewhere
/r/seduction22/05/20 10:05 PM
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The same information will have different meanings to you at different points in your journey. For some guys, knowing that there is a “push/pull” dynamic in a flirty conversation is helpful.For others, thinking about push/pull dynamics in the middle of an interaction will cause you to overthink and make you robotic and try-hard. You’re giving advice about improving yourself and developing confidence -> concepts that are talked about ad nauseam on this forum. Mark Manson’s book is a best seller be…
/r/seduction19/05/20 10:19 PM
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I think you’re onto something here, but there’s a better way to think about it: Instead of trying to make rejection less awkward, just assume that it’s not awkward at all. By trying to turn rejection into a joke, you’re still conveying to her that you’re affected by the rejection and need to cover it up or something. Just treat rejection like another part of the conversation, it’s really not a big deal if she says no to one of your requests. In fact, you’ll find that “no” often times just means …
/r/seduction21/04/20 06:09 AM
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I went through something similar - just stopped being interested in meeting and fucking more girls. I almost felt obligated to sleep with a girl if she was hot and interested in me. But at the same time, I didn’t want to let off the gas because I knew that I would revert back to being a beta bitch. The thing that helped me was getting to know myself really well and then getting really picky. So for example, I’ve always liked Pop punk music. I used to sing in a pop punk band and I still listen to…
/r/seduction19/04/20 07:33 PM
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Many seduction theories talk about integrating masculine and feminine qualities in your character. David Deida has a great framework in his book, Way of the superior man. Robert Greene talks about effeminate men being seduction artists in his book The Art of Seduction. Real world examples of this are people like Russell Brand ( watch the way women respond to him on stage or in interviews), Michael Jackson - some women would literally pass out when they saw him.
/r/seduction08/04/20 03:54 PM
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Well I have a whole notebook of concepts somewhere haha but one of the most helpful ones was RSDs “6 steps to always have an awesome night” Open any, open all minimize time in between interactions find something funny about every interaction don’t judge yourself, who the fuck would have the balls to do that When you’re in state, burn the set to the ground try to take each interaction a little bit further What I liked about this method is that every step is process oriented instead of outcome dep…
/r/seduction04/04/20 10:28 PM
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Well back in the day (like 10 years ago) I learned from a company called Love Systems. They were a continuation of the Mystery Method from the book The Game. One of their instructors was on the reality show Keys to the VIP. Their main book was called Magic Bullets by Don Savoy. They had an online forum with tons of information on it. I don’t even know if these guys are still around, you might be able to find their stuff out there somewhere. But most of the kind of concepts they taught stemmed fr…
/r/seduction03/04/20 04:23 PM
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Focus on self improvement. So you want to design a life that you enjoy living just for the sake of living it. Generally self-improvement concepts focus on 4 main areas: Health - get on a workout and diet program. Lifting weights as part of it is non-negotiable Relationships - make new friends and try to be a good friend Finances - you don’t have to be rich but have some ambition to become more financially successful Higher purpose/spirituality - go hard on some hobbies and side projects. Do thin…
/r/seduction02/04/20 09:49 PM
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I used to have the same exact problem when I first got into game. I would meet a ton of new girls, attract many of them, and sleep with some of them. But even the girls that I slept with would only stick around for a couple weeks before they ghosted me or thing just petered out. I realized that I was attracting all these girls by using the game tactics that I learned. I could spike their state and get them really excited about coming home with me. But it was only a matter of time before these gi…
/r/seduction02/04/20 09:24 PM
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It’s very common for hot girls to have at least one fuck buddy but the fact that she was texting him and talking about their “issues” in front of you? Sounds like she was not so subtly trying to make you jealous. Kind of a weird and insecure move on her part but sounds like you handled it well nice job. If you want to see her again you have to let her back in at some point tho😉
/r/seduction24/03/20 04:07 AM
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Totally agree. And the power of cold approach is that you’re risky rejection. Take a simple opener like “Hey I saw you and thought you looked beautiful, how’s it going?” If you said this on tinder to a beautiful women, it would be 1 in a thousand messages to her. In the middle of a crowded coffee shop, you’re the guy that has the balls to separate himself form the crowd and go for what he wants. Same line, completely different context.
/r/seduction06/02/20 10:13 PM
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Good shit man! You seem to have a really balanced approach to learning game. Keep going in February and March and you’ll reach the next level. It’s a momentum thing. Most guys, myself included, experience stagnant results for 2 or 3 months. Maybe you’ll pickup a cute girl here and there but it can be frustrating and seem like you’re spinning your tires. But if you keep hitting the wall, it will suddenly come crashing down in month 4 or 5. You’ll start picking up multiple girls in cold approach a…
/r/seduction04/02/20 12:03 AM
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I love hearing results posts like this instead of saying you’re going to do it. Dude just do it and tell everyone what happened afterwards!
/r/seduction03/02/20 11:27 PM
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Exactly, and the “advanced techniques” won’t make any sense unless they have the basics down.
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:57 PM
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I totally agree with you. I commend RSD for sticking their neck out for years by posting YouTube videos of them making out with like 5 girls at once in the club. Julien went through a goddamn media scandal for it. I don’t blame them for not posting the edgy infield stuff anymore. Tyler’s more concerned with building a massive company now and so he’s hedging his bets on keeping their YouTube videos PC and mainstream. I guess now we’re seeing how much RSD were thought leaders in the community. Now…
/r/seduction24/01/20 07:53 PM
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Noobs that can’t tell the difference between friendly banter and sexual interest should practice on other girls in other situations at first. Once you know the difference, don’t be afraid to flirt and take contact info of a server or bartender in a socially calibrated way. I once told a server I was a pilot in casual conversation. At the end of our group’s meal, she made my receipt into a paper airplane and wrote her number on the inside. We went on several dates. Another time, a cute server tol…
/r/seduction14/01/20 11:34 PM
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You have to find something that you give a fuck more about than her approval. When she disapproves of something you said or did, most guys will either double down and get defensive or they will change their tune to fit her sensibilities. Both of these are reactions to her and show that you give a fuck what she thinks. Instead, just don’t react. Theres nothing to even react to. High value guys don’t live in a delusion expecting everyone to like them. So when they offend someone, it’s not a big de…
/r/seduction12/01/20 02:30 AM
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You’re totally right man. I love the reframe and I think that these mindset shifts happen naturally as you do it more. I was just pointing out that there is always an uncomfortable learning phase and you have to do more than a few approaches to even experience how these inner beliefs and reframes can help you.
/r/seduction09/01/20 06:06 PM
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Yeah I think you’re right to an extent here. I think the ultimate goal for most people learning game is to integrate it into everyday life. Who wants to go out to the mall to walk around and hunt for girls to approach? The problem is that you can only realistically meet so many girls throughout your daily life. And the problem with only approaching when you feel like it is that you’re brain will convince you that you don’t feel like almost always. Game is a skillset like any other skillset. To g…
/r/seduction09/01/20 07:19 AM
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Dude, when it comes do dating, pay attention to what girls do and not to what they say. There are potentially a million reasons why she behaved this way. Don’t drive yourself crazy by trying to get inside her head and figure out her reasoning. The bottom line is that she was not interested in you and, at the very least, she wanted attention from your friend. It stings to find that out doesn’t it? Good. Because the sooner you can stop giving a fuck about how this one girl chooses to behave and on…
/r/seduction09/01/20 05:20 AM
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Yes it does work but it’s like any other skill: the more you do it, the better you get. Randomly approaching a few girls over the course of a few years is like sitting down at the piano once every few years. You will suck at first and you need to practice consistently to get good at it. You’re right in that daygame is not “normal” behaviour. It can be very awkward at times. But this is the challenge: to remain calm in awkward situations and skillfully create a pleasant encounter with a women wit…
/r/seduction31/12/19 01:28 AM
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Ah the great paradoxes of game. Let me remind you my friend of Einstein’s famous quote: “We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” Aim for a deeper level of understanding and the paradoxes of game will solve themselves.
/r/seduction16/12/19 12:37 AM
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If she cheats on her bf with you, you can expect her to cheat on you with other guys if you make her your gf. You won’t get a girl to change no matter how great of a guy you are. Instead of investing energy into trying to make her stay with you, invest that energy into yourself and build an awesome life. The best frame control is to have standards, the idea of committing to a girl that cheats on her BF should be laughable to you. Like actually laugh in her face if she brings it up. If she wants …
/r/seduction15/12/19 11:45 PM
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Yes I feel the same way as you. I have always had a draw to getting really good at game. One of the closest things I ever had to a childhood dream is to be a pickup artist when I was a teenager. This dream has obviously evolved over the years, and I believe that I’ve come to the same realization as you that it’s not about stacking numbers or getting the validation of being “good with women”, it’s more about the authentic connection and sharing amazing experiences. After getting really good at ga…
/r/seduction02/12/19 01:52 AM
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Getting out of relationships is hard for everyone. No matter how hard you try to stay independent in the relationship, boundaries dissolve and you become reliant on your gfs validation to an extent. Not to mention your lives being tangled together through mutual friends, living situation, common activities etc. Here’s what happens:, your *identity * becomes defined in part by that relationship. When you breakup, it feels like you don’t have an identity anymore. Sometimes you don’t even know who …
/r/seduction29/11/19 07:12 AM
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Haha yup they still count. But not very many respond that way. Even if you come off like a bumbling idiot, most women will still respond positively.
/r/seduction21/11/19 02:48 AM
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Yeah daygame is the shit! If you’re new to it, you have to start slow and build your way up. Don’t expect to be seducing the first girls you talk to. The first 100 or so women you talk to will be getting into the habit of starting conversation, giving her sincere compliments, and rewiring your brain to not shit your pants with nervousness. Once you get used to doing it, it is the most fun things in the world.
/r/seduction16/11/19 06:56 PM
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Thank you, needed to be said
/r/seduction16/11/19 06:43 PM
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I don’t think it makes OP a POS to be honest about how he was feeling. Feelings come and go and they don’t have to dictate who you are as a person or how you behave towards others.
/r/seduction16/11/19 06:32 PM
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Many reasons cause every girl is different. But one of the main reasons is to see what you’re made of when all the chips are on the table. “Non-neediness” is the willingness to walk away. The extent to which you are non-needy is demonstrated by what you’re willing to give up by walking away. Early on in your interaction, the most you’re giving up is the validation of a hot girl liking you, maybe the possibly of making out (If you’re not willing to walk away at this point, you have no hope of dem…
/r/seduction16/11/19 06:20 PM
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There’s a 3 second rule for a reason. That’s about the time it takes for your brain to come up with a dumb excuse for you not talk to her.
/r/seduction13/11/19 02:13 AM
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It’s hard getting out there after a breakup. You basically have to learn how to flirt again. This only happens with practice and repetition. Just keep going out and talking to women. And no matter how many times you get rejected, don’t get discouraged. You’re still ahead of those guys that stay in toxic relationships or are single and doing fuck all about it.
/r/seduction06/11/19 08:09 PM
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Man your story sounds so similar to mine. I let myself social life fall to shit after being with my ex for 3 years. That relationship ended and I’m realizing how few friends or social activities I’m involved in. I’m basically saying yes to every social thing that comes my way and trying to make friends anyway that I can. It’s harder than I thought when you have no momentum. But I’ve just started to have some success after about 5 months of feeling lost. I’d be interested to hear what you’re doin…
/r/seduction04/11/19 05:22 PM
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Dude that’s so true, I have intuitively sensed that in my own life but it’s encouraging that others are experiencing it too. I Just got out of a long term relationship and it’s actually quite shocking how low I let my social circles fall to the wayside. I’ve been going out and gaming pretty active but my results with women are way less than satisfying. When I meet someone new, I need to be confident that I can actually invite them into my life. Right now I don’t have much of a life to invite the…
/r/seduction04/11/19 05:15 PM
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This is a great post! The problem with saying the same thing to every girl is that you start to sound robotic on your approach. I’ve had success with using the “ I think you’re beautiful and had to come meet you” line, except I try to change it up in the moment. I just let the words come to me which I think makes it sound more authentic and I get better responses.
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:37 AM
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You were already making out with her back at your place. All you have to do is keep escalating. Kiss her neck, take your shirt off, take her shirt off and just get into it. If your shirts are off and you’re passionately making out, you should be clear to just grab her hand, take her to bed, and then get completely naked. Just keep escalating until she stops you. Respect her boundaries but just go for what you want. Sometimes I get stuck in my head too when I’m escalating with a girl that I reall…
/r/seduction28/10/19 05:26 AM
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The first thing you should do is stop the self attack! Even in this post you’re calling yourself stupid, a shell of a man etc. Don’t talk about yourself like that, you’ll have enough haters out there in the world, don’t make yourself one of them. The next thing you should do is make yourself proud. Work on small things everyday that you actually think are cool. Not things that other people find cool. If you don’t know what you think is cool and what would make you proud, try making something, he…
/r/seduction27/10/19 10:12 PM
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There’s some good take aways here. Just remember to pay attention to what girls do and not what they say. For example, girls can say they don’t like being approached but if Brad Pitt came up to her, she’d be into it. Girls often don’t know what they want and why they respond the way they do. Rather, they will come up with an explanation after the fact (this is actually human nature in general but especially true for women in dating).
/r/seduction01/10/19 10:34 PM
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This is awesome! Thanks for doing the approaches and reporting about it after instead of the other way around. 100 is great for a newbie. I think your results are about right on track. Try to keep going because you don’t get better at this stuff linearly. The first 100 is more about reconditioning your mind to engage beautiful women instead of being terrified of them. You also probably picked up some subtle social cues. The next few hundred should be about fine tuning those social cues, becoming…
/r/seduction01/10/19 03:34 PM
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I’d say the best time to make a move was yesterday and the second best time is today. A good move would be just to react to one of her snaps like “ omg that kale salad looks soooo good! Where’d you get it?” She’ll most likely get back to a simple question like this if she’s interested at all. Then just put it simply like “Hey you seem really fun, want to go for a drink sometime?” This is a non-creepy but super obvious way of telling her that you like her. She might say no or make a bunch of excu…
/r/seduction25/09/19 12:51 AM
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I think we are misunderstanding each other and are talking about the same thing. I’m just affirming that OP did the right thing here. And then adding on some more info for context. The point is that it’s ridiculous for her to expect him to treat her as a friend after he already asked her out and then she asks to come straight to his bed. Lots of posts here are calling this “playing games”. To a high value man, it doesn’t really matter what you call it. The only thing that matters is that now OP …
/r/seduction24/09/19 11:35 PM
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The best line in this is” it takes time for you to realize your own value and even more time for people to start realizing it.”
/r/seduction24/09/19 05:58 PM
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No man that’s called drawing a healthy boundary. Girls need to understand that if they’re crawling into bed with you then they’re asking to get fucked. If I show sexual interest in a girl, I’m letting her know that if she intentionally puts herself in my vicinity, I won’t be keeping my hands to myself. And if she doesn’t want that, then basically don’t come around me. Don’t hangout with me, don’t come over, and definitely don’t come into my bed. Basically, let her know what you’re about and how …
/r/seduction24/09/19 05:47 PM
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K there white knight. I guarantee you that most girls would much rather meet someone interesting and have a fun convo than read a fucking book.
/r/seduction14/09/19 02:13 AM
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Consistent action is more valuable than spurts of high volume action. If you talk to 3 girls a day for 10 days instead of 30 in a day, it gives your mind more time to process it and feels less overwhelming. Just tell yourself when you leave the house “it’s only 3 girls, nbd, I’ll be done in no time.” Not that talking to 30 girls in a day isn’t a cool challenge to set for yourself, but it can be hard on the ol self esteem lol. Especially if you’re just starting out and getting less than optimal r…
/r/seduction01/09/19 02:59 AM
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The paradox, one of the many paradoxes in game! The art of trying really hard to not try!
/r/seduction21/08/19 08:12 PM
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It also gives you authenticity points because she knows that she’s pretty. It’s obvious that tons of guys want her but you’re just the one that had to balls to do something about it. Whereas if you call an average girl pretty, it almost doesn’t seem real, like you’re trying to flatter her to get into here pants.
/r/seduction21/08/19 01:48 PM
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Basically get good at changing a woman’s emotions rather than her mind. There’s nothing you can say over text that will get her to see you sexually. Your only chance is to be such a stud that when she sees you on the friend date she changes her mind and starts to see you as a sexual interest.
/r/seduction15/08/19 12:27 AM
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Go to the bar where it’s expected for you to talk to girls and nobody gives a fuck if you get rejected. Don’t practice game in your social circles when you’re starting out. You should just get better and socializing naturally which will help you in your regular friend groups. You’ll also make new friends by going out so there’s nothing to lose
/r/seduction12/08/19 01:49 PM
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You need to start small and focus on small gains. The fact that you’re here and reading game material is good. Keep going with that but make sure you start taking small actions everyday. Some people can force themselves to jump into the deepend and just start approaching, but if you’re literally shitting your pants, you can start even smaller. Work on socializing everyday with small exercises. Heres some exercises: 1. Walk around, look people in the eye and smile. Could even nod your head or som…
/r/seduction12/08/19 12:52 PM
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Really? That’s so crazy! Did you ever have any problems with the law, and in what countries?
/r/seduction12/08/19 06:24 AM
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Lots of great advice in the comments here. Another thing you can do it saying positive affirmations in the mirror. It’s seems hokey, but you have to start somewhere to build better nuropathways in your mind. Do it right after you meditate and say everything in the present tense: EX - I am enough. Women love me. Women want my cock. I love myself. I love women. I’m the best that women can get....Etc. Just make up whatever you want to be true, look yourself in the eye in the mirror and say it over …
/r/seduction06/08/19 01:04 PM
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Good job on the approach and getting the number. That sounds like it went smooth. The text about picking a curling iron was probably alright. Everything after is not great. She just met you and you’re already texting her like she’s your gf. Instead of talking in questions, make statements. When you get a quick number like this with a promise to “hangout sometime”, she’s hoping that youre a cool guy with cool things going on. And she’s hoping that you will just give her a place and time. Give it …
/r/seduction06/08/19 12:21 PM
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Start thinking of you’re own journey instead of focusing on this one girl. The game is fickle like that, especially when you start getting your first ONS and stuff. Girls will generally make dating decisions based on emotion. It’s generally hard to get call backs from ONS because it was a short passionate night. There’s not a lot of time to build comfort and familiarity with each other. Not saying it’s impossible. But next time try to seed some “logical” plans into the interaction before you sle…
/r/seduction01/08/19 08:47 AM
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Nice man! A couple questions: 1. You go out and do this alone? 2. How big of a city do you live in? Thanks!
/r/seduction23/07/19 01:22 PM
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True! Being authentic IS alpha! The only thing I’d caution against is using your shyness as an excuse not to take action. Lots of guys stand in the corner with a beer on their chest because that’s “authentic”. The reality is that they won’t get results. You should still approach in spite of being shy. Just wear it on your sleeve like a champ: “Hey I’m really shy and nervous but I had to come talk to you!” Could be a great opener. The key is to be authentic with where you’re at and take action fr…
/r/seduction26/06/19 10:25 PM
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There’s two sides to it: You want to make having fun and laughing a priority. But always try to take your interactions a little bit further in a sexual direction. On one side, some guys run around like the “dancing monkey” by making everyone laugh but never making things sexual. On the other side, a lot of guys try to go for the home run when they can’t even hit the ball. If you’re obsessing about how to get her into bed, how can you even enjoy the conversation? Instead, just focus on having fun…
/r/seduction19/06/19 05:36 PM
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Sometimes girls don’t always know what they want. She probably wanted to make out with you to see what it was like, but then she found out that it was weird for her. It’s Nothing against you man, you can’t control how she feels, at least you still have her as a friend. Best thing to do now is get with other girls. If she sees how much fun other girls are having with you, she might realize that she fucked up and want to be with you.
/r/seduction10/06/19 07:59 PM
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Yeah sounds like you’re solid in the friend zone. Might still be able to turn it around with her but don’t count on it. Here’s a couple tips for next time: -set up a real life meetup ASAP, ideally within a week or so. Face to face time is the only way to truly build lasting attraction. Texting and calling only maintains existing attraction. Make your sexual interest explicitly known ASAP. Doesn’t have to be ground breaking, a simple “ I think you’re cute” will do. But platonic conversation with …
/r/seduction03/06/19 10:35 PM
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My personal recommendation would be to find opportunities to get out of the house and just start talking to people the second you leave the house. Say hi to the mail man, say hi to people walking down the street. You need to practice building social momentum. Setting a time to go to the mall or whatever is great , but it’s really hard to be sitting inside, being unsocial and then all of a sudden forcing yourself to be very social and forward with women. If you’re like most guys, the jarring tran…
/r/seduction03/06/19 07:26 PM
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Nice, good call kissing her at the theater mid date! You’d know the vibes better than me when your dropping her off. You could be right that she was acting polite, but sometimes girls will just act coy and play hard to get for a million different reasons. For your own mindset, just assume that she loved the kiss. Assume that any girl would be lucky to kiss you and that she secretly wants more. It’s good practice for your inner game. Since you don’t know what’s really going on in her head, might …
/r/seduction30/05/19 08:31 PM
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Try focussing on the part of daygame that you do like. I used to go out to malls to game and I’d walk around all nervous for hours before doing a single approach. I hated the process too. I changed my strategy to just trying to push myself to be more social throughout my day. I found that I really liked cracking jokes or giving random people compliments. I started having WAY more fun doing that than pressuring myself to go to the mall. And the women responded WAY better because I was having fun …
/r/seduction29/05/19 01:24 AM
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You got a date with her? Nice man! I wouldn’t say you “messed up” by not going for a kiss on the first date. But a general tip for dates is to try to kiss her as soon as you can. She’s expecting you to go for it so don’t make her wait until the end of the night and put all that pressure on getting the “good night kiss”. Kissing should just be a fun part of the date, not a prize that you try to get at the end of it.
/r/seduction28/05/19 11:27 PM
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Group hangout first. Try not to get crazy over her because she’s a model. That’s what 90% of guys do and it’s a huge turn off. Treat her like your little sister, tell her she looks dorkier than you remember. Plan another group get together for after the bday party and invite her. Make your move at the second get together.
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:43 PM
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Mindsets change? To what? not liking Sex? Bro try hanging out with some different friends. Theres still tons of chicks in their 30s looking for casual sex. You just probably won’t meet them at polite dinner parties with 90% married couples.
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:39 PM
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Instead of worrying about being nice or mean, try acting like yourself. Just say whatever you want to women, sometimes that will be nice stuff, sometimes it will be mean. Woman appreciate honesty more than a guy just acting like a douchebag for no reason.
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:34 PM
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I’d say don’t be too hard on yourself first off. Mean things tend to be said in heated arguments. Next thing would be to make peace in your own mind by accepting that maybe you aren’t meant to be together. (Maybe you are, but that remains to be seen and there’s no point fucking yourself up over in the mean time, have some emotional resiliency) The third thing is to try to get good with women in general. This one experience is just that, a learning experience. The more you have, the more you’ll l…
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:24 PM
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The only real difference between you and those guys is that they do things they love and convince everyone else that they have cool lives. Pick something you love, do it the best you can , and own it. Now you’re cool.
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:06 PM
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I don’t have so much a comment on what to do with this one specific girl, but more of a comment on what to learn from this. If you have a lot of success early on and have a hard time keeping girls interested long term, try focussing more on self development. Not saying to stop going out and practicing meeting new girls, but put more effort into changing yourself from the inside-out. Roughly put, the pickup specific skills help you with your outer game, and the self development helps with your in…
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:01 PM
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The most important point here is “ Don’t apologize for showing interest in the woman!” Id say a social convention like “sorry to bother you” is slightly different. Good tip tho OP, we should always be careful not to confuse social awareness with our intentions. For guys that tend to come off as “too nice” or “not direct enough”, I would recommend doing away with niceties like this until they can tell the difference.
/r/seduction22/05/19 09:48 PM
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Talk about sexual things. Your whole conversation shouldn’t be about sex but try to toss in a sexual joke from time to time. She needs to know you aren’t weirded out by the topic
/r/seduction15/05/19 11:20 PM
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Make sexual comments. Don’t apologize for your sexual tastes.
/r/seduction09/05/19 07:09 PM
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Have sex with other girls
/r/seduction09/05/19 06:39 PM
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Bro she already knows. Most girls have a sixth sense to tell if you like them. She’s probably doing the butt on your crotch stuff for validation. She’ll just keep doing it and tormenting you unless you initiate back or call her out on it. If not, you’ll be another source of validation for her. Hot girls often have tons of those guys around, their called orbiters. It’s nice for her, only thing is those guys never ever get laid. If you don’t want to be one of those guys you have to at least tell h…
/r/seduction28/04/19 08:25 PM
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I’d say you’re on the right track, but you should be trying to integrate this stuff into your life. Think of the PUA stuff like training wheels. Yeah you can learn on the routines and have “success” with women by running the perfect game. But at the end of the day, that’s still like learning how to mountain bike with training wheels on. Why would you even want that? Wouldn’t you rather learn to ride shittily with no training wheels than be the best training wheel rider in the world? The whole “s…
/r/seduction05/12/18 10:59 PM
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Ahh this is one of the great paradoxes of game. The short answer is that you should think about what kind of attention you’re giving her, and if you are giving doing anything that you wouldn’t do if you weren’t already hooking up with her, you’re giving her too much attention. That’s a good rule of thumb. But that does not solve the paradox, just gives you a band aid solution to the deeper problem. You have to understand the value that you can provide to women. If you are an independent thinking…
/r/seduction29/11/18 02:43 AM
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The technical term you’re looking for is “maintaining outcome independence”. This technique works because it’s a blatant indication that you don’t care about the outcome of the situation and that you are more concerned about you intent. This is in contrast to “outcome dependence” which is the essence of neediness. By giving her an obvious “out”, you are just separating yourself from the majority of other guys who try to force the interaction and end up looking like needy little twats. Add in a f…
/r/seduction25/10/18 10:18 PM
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Have approached the same girl in a night with same opener. Awkward shit is bound to happen when you’re out talking to girls. It’s all worth it tho because you learn how to stay cool in awkward situations
/r/seduction15/08/18 02:23 PM
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Yeah it’s definitely a good habit to develop! University is also a great time in life to fool around and not take it too seriously. Only thing I’d caution against is trying to “game” every pretty girl you meet. Depending on the university you attend, you could quickly become known as the creepy pickup guy. For this reason, I would go out to collage bars and whatnot to approach as much as possible. Everyone’s drunk so you can practice new strategies without anyone really caring. (Checkout the sid…
/r/seduction27/04/18 12:47 AM
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What you put into seduction is what you get out of it. The one dimensional thinking that guys usually apply to their dating lives is reflected in the results that they get. If your goal is to just “get a girlfriend”, you are probably right, no special effort required. Keep following the status quo, be reasonably cool and friendly and somewhat have your life together - you’ll find a girl eventually. Once you start asking questions (and you probably should if you’ve ever been brutally dumped or ch…
/r/seduction24/04/18 07:39 PM
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Short answer, about 5 years. Long answer: You never stop learning. You just keep peelin back the layers of your potential as you push harder and adopt new goals. When I first started I was happy a girl stopping to talk and being nice to me. Now I’m thinking about how to structure my social life around having a harem of cool girls that I can date and sleep with. The point when I felt like I finally “got it” was when I finally didn’t have to turn on my “game mode”. When I finally integrated the ha…
/r/seduction20/04/18 06:55 PM
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Let yourself laugh. Start talking to yourself and just say whatever dumb shit comes to your head. Say hi to everyone that you see from the moment you walk out your front door in the morning. Try to hang out with people from time to time that might not be as intelligent as you but really know how to let loose and have fun. Pay attention to how they don’t judge themselves and just let all hang. Try to force yourself to smile even if it seems fake at first. It will boost the neurotransmitters in yo…
/r/seduction20/04/18 06:32 PM
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She’s definately interested man. The party is a great time to make a move. IMPORTANT NOTE Don’t wait until she’s next to you in bed to make a move. Just because shes in your bed doesn’t automatically mean “it’s on”. You have to be giving her the message that you are attracted to her on some level. Would definitely aim to kiss her at the party. Make it fun and playful and just “happens in the moment”. Then when you get back to yours, your next move will still seem “in the moment”. Gives her a goo…
/r/seduction20/04/18 05:57 PM
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Atta boy
/r/seduction11/04/18 06:12 PM
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I would say be more careful with it around collage. Especially if you are new to game. What you’re doing seems fine. But just realize that if you’re trying edgy stuff that you read on the internet, it could backfire and you can’t look this girl in the eye for the next 4 years of your degree. I’d say get to know people around the campus and practice the harder cold approach stuff at frat parties and collage bars.
/r/seduction11/04/18 05:41 PM
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Try stretching the convo out a little longer when he comes home. Try throwing in little sexual comments to create sexual tension. I’d say that pinning him against a wall might come off too strong, especially if it’s completely out of the blue. But I definitely wouldn’t shy away from sexualizing the convo. Gotta put the message out there somehow.
/r/seduction11/04/18 05:29 PM
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This is pretty much it. You have the right attitude . Just get back out there and meet some more hotties!
/r/seduction11/04/18 04:47 PM
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Hard to tell what your situation is exactly. But it sounds like a problem that many guys experience. Especially when you had success in high school or university. Once you have success in a certain situation, its easy to become invested in the idea of yourself - ie. invest in your ego - ie. become dependent on your success continuing. Once you enter a different stage in your life, the situational confidence that you just had in high school/ university ect. plummets. Because you were so emotional…
/r/seduction21/03/18 05:12 PM
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You’re overanalyzing it. Just have fun with it and let things evolve naturally. Best case scenario, she loves you for who you really are. Worse case scenario, she doesn’t like you and you learn a shit ton about dating for the next girls you meet. You can’t lose
/r/seduction26/02/18 08:07 PM
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Well the practical answer to fixing your loneliness is to go out and meet women. Do you approach women consistently? How afraid of rejection are you? Are you comfortable expressing your sexuality to attractive women? The theoretical question you might ask yourself is "who are you doing all this stuff for?". This involves going deep and asking yourself what you truely want in life. It sounds like you are putting a good effort into a great deal of stuff. But is it truly making you happy? Not sayin…
/r/seduction05/12/17 11:29 PM
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Man I feel bad for you, I really do. Not going to lie, I didn’t read much of your rant. But I see where you’re coming from. I see it with guys all the time. Hell I was the same way at one point. The bad news is that you are stuck in a low vibration thought pattern and living a victim narrative. The good news is that you have more than enough time to turn your life around and create something amazing. The fact that you’re reaching out means that you want to change. You’re ready to change. There a…
/r/seduction05/12/17 10:17 PM
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Think of yourself like a team that had a good playoff run last season but now is playing awful. There's no point in thinking about the glory days and trying to recapture that. You have to build yourself up again and make something magic happen at this new point in your life. Iv had similar experiences where I have unusual difficulty getting laid. My game doesn't get better until I realize how awful it actually is and accept the place where I'm at. Once you allow yourself to have that objective v…
/r/seduction20/11/17 05:19 PM
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I think you handled it pretty well!✋️ The thing to remember is not to get competitive with these guys. True alphas don't compete. They're trying to get a rise out of you because that would mean they're in the same league as you. There's many ways to deal with AMOG behaviour, all dependant on the subtleties of the situation. It comes with practice. But you basically did the right thing by engaging them, joking around, and then making it awkward enough that they realize it's time to leave.
/r/seduction20/10/17 03:26 PM
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Thanks for sharing this. I really needed to hear it and get back on track in my relationship
/r/seduction24/09/17 01:34 AM
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You don't need to say anything. She is just saying this to maintain plausible deniability. it doesn't need to be an explicitly stated "date" for seductionto happen.
/r/seduction01/09/17 04:03 PM
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Definitely open the entire group. Stand tall and talk LOUD to get everyone's attention. Could say anything as an opener, "how's your guys night going?" " is this the girls only area?" It doesn't really matter, as long as you are engaging everyone and are the center of attention on the initial open. What typically happens is you will start having a little side convo with one of the girls. Ideally, the hottest one. If this happens, and things are going well, isolate her with any dumb excuse like "…
/r/seduction28/08/17 08:07 PM
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Yes masterbation is completely normal and healthy. But Nofap is can be a very helpful tool to kick into overdrive and get out of a dry spell. You certainly CAN get results with women while still masterbating once a day. And like most things, there are some negatives to the whole nofap challenge - sexual frustration, sleepless nights, cumming too fast etc. But there is something about taking the safety net out and making a commitment to yourself - "the only time I am going to cum is when I'm with…
/r/seduction25/08/17 03:51 PM
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Yes masterbation is completely normal and healthy. But Nofap is can be a very helpful tool to kick into overdrive and get out of a dry spell. You certainly CAN get results with women while still masterbating once a day. And like most things, there are some negatives to the whole nofap challenge - sexual frustration, sleepless nights, cumming too fast etc. But there is something about taking the safety net out and making a commitment to yourself - "the only time I am going to cum is when I'm with…
/r/seduction25/08/17 03:51 PM
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You are on the right track with all of that stuff! There is a book you have to read - "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Robert Glover Go onto amazon right now and order it. It is the most helpful how-to guide on how to cure the nice-guy syndrome that I have ever heard of or read. Definitely worth buying a solid copy to keep around and read multiple times. It will change your life man. Good luck!
/r/seduction19/08/17 12:17 AM
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This is just a dumb mindset to have. It's born out of scarcity and perpetuated by a very common rationalization for why you aren't getting the "hot" girls. "Why don't I get the hot girls?" Assumption A. You need to work on your social skills and learn how to be more attractive through personal introspection, corrective action and a long term commitment to improving your results. Assumption B. All the hot girls are taken B is much easier to stomach because it conveniently protects your precious e…
/r/seduction18/08/17 10:28 PM
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Look up the concept of "abundance mentality". A very simple definition of it is: an intrinsic belief system that manifests itself extrinsically where your physical, social and psychospiritual needs are more than adequately met. It sounds hokey I know, but it is extremely powerful in the context of game and social interaction. Basically, once you believe that you have more than enough friends/women / social status in your life, you will attract these things into your real life more and more. Ther…
/r/seduction11/08/17 09:38 PM
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Two things here: Stop comparing yourself to other people. Its not a productive thought pattern. genetics aren't something that you can change so don't think about it. Go to the gym, wear nice clothes and eat healthy food, that's all you can do. Tall handsome guys have been given societal permission to behave attractivly. So it feels natural for them to have girls interested in them and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. You need to give yourself permission to be a cocky arrogant prick and ge…
/r/seduction08/08/17 01:04 AM
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When my buddies girlfriend came up to me at the bar one time and said " dude you fucking suck at hitting on girls. Seriously, you need some fucking lessons or something. Get your dick out of your hand and go talk to girls you fucking pussy!" I got annoyed at her comment and walked up to the nearest group of girls to prove that I actually had game. The girls brutally ignored me and every other girl I opened that night thereafter ignored me/ rejected me. At the end of the night my buddies gf gave …
/r/seduction19/04/17 01:46 AM
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I would venture to say that this type of comment is a shit test more often than not. I don't know for sure but I think girls do this subconsciously. Same as any other shit test, they need to know that you're the real thing. This is because she will actually resent herself for having sex with a beta male. The beta gets all butthurt and reacts, the alpha doesn't give a fuck because he knows he'll get laid by someone else if not with her.
/r/seduction13/04/17 03:50 PM
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Dude you didn't get rejected, you did fucking awesome. When I first started, I'd only be able to ask like one girl for the time and get red in the face. You did 4 in one day and got snapchat from 3 of them. That's pretty fucking good man. A rejection is when she gives you a weird look and walks away without saying a word. Now focus on making more of a connection so that the girls can't wait to hear from you. You sound like a fairly put together guy so you're probably well on your way!
/r/seduction12/04/17 02:02 PM
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Sounds like you have a lot of inner work to do man. I think most people feel like this to varying degrees, and that's OK! Try googling "heart meditations." Or "meeting your inner child". These concepts may sound hippy woo-woo but they are extremely effective. People often have trouble accepting themselves because they can't accept the wounds of the past. And instead of learning to love even the most ugly parts of ourselves, we cover up the shame with emotional blockers. This pushes all of our au…
/r/seduction11/04/17 05:57 PM
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Noooo don't do this. I wouldn't text her anything and kind of move on if I were you. But if you really must text something, go with what someone else already said on this thread, "Hey I'm going to be in this area tonight. If you're around let's meetup." My point is actually to move on to other girls and work on getting SOLID attraction. How do you know if you have solid attraction? She will text you! She will clear her schedule to make time for a date. I know you don't know how to do get this ye…
/r/seduction06/04/17 08:38 PM
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When a girl says shes not having sex with you she is testing your response. If you're nonreactive and don't care, you pass (and then, paradoxically, you might have sex). If you react and try to "talk her into it" or some other bullshit, you fail. And now you're definitely not having sex. "Why do girls play these games?", one may ponder. Well its not so much a game as a last minute confirmation for herself that you are indeed an "alpha +". It makes no logical sense, but if she finds out after the…
/r/seduction06/04/17 06:08 PM
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Honestly, "I'll think about it" isn't a great response. It probably means she has better options on a Friday night than to hang out with you. The thing is that you can't "lock in" a date with her by getting her to agree. There is no text that will get her to come out if she doesn't really want to. Even if she did give you a solid "yes", she could still flake you. Your goal should be to become girls' NUMBER ONE OPTION☝️. This is an emotional process and comes from building massive amounts of attr…
/r/seduction06/04/17 05:19 PM
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Thanks for saying this. Totally the right frame of mind
/r/seduction28/03/17 10:42 PM
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I'm honestly a little concerned this comment is getting upvoted so much. I even agree with it for the most part. Yeah she probably disrespected OP and acted like a rude little twat. Yeah she might very well be using OP as a texting buddy for attention. But getting all butthurt about this stuff screams insecurity. Yeah taking it like a doormat and coming back to her pretending like nothing happened is needy as fuck. But getting upset and rage ignoring her is just as bad. If you ignore her you're …
/r/seduction28/03/17 10:38 PM
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You're going to want to check your personal beliefs on what happened here. There's no point in trying to implement a quick "game tactic" unless you have a solid understanding of why you are doing it. Here's one way of looking at it: " omg what a bitch. I waited for her to show up at the entrance for like 20 minutes. I texted her like 50 times and she never replied. How dare she. That's so rude and inconsiderate. Doesn't she even know who I am? Girls are so fucking flakey. Flakey bitches. How dar…
/r/seduction28/03/17 09:49 PM
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The reality of hitting on a server is that you're risking the chance of being completely inappropriate. This is because they are working and have to be nice to everybody. A lot of guys take advantage of their niceness and creepily ask them out in front of all their friends and other weird shit. Don't be that guy. With that being said, I'm hesitant to say "never" hit on the waitress. Sometimes you'll have an opening. If you have game, you should know when you have an opening. If you don't have ga…
/r/seduction25/03/17 11:33 PM
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I know that intermediate stage you're going through. It's so awesome that you want to push through it, cause honestly, most guys don't even get to that point, but when they do, they think that they're PU masters, and never get any better. The fact that you want to get even better means that you're willing to keep learning and growing. Not that I think of myself as advanced, but I was sort of able to get past my intermediate stage by doing two general things: Looking at game in the big picture of…
/r/seduction17/03/17 06:08 PM
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Being in a good relationship and getting laid whenever you want is hard. It's hard because you loose a little bit of energy every time you cum. You get comfortable just lazing around naked with your girl. Your brain starts to think, " why would I put all the effort into being a strong attractive man when I know that my gf will suck me off either way?" This is in stark contrast to being single where you never really know where your pussy is coming from. The uncertainty makes you hungry. The hunge…
/r/seduction15/03/17 07:03 AM
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So most other comments on here are saying this guy is not your friend. Idk if that is necessarily accurate. You've probably had some awesome times together and he probably isn't always a piece of shit. But the bottom line is that you need to stand up for yourself and set boundaries. This guy sounds like a bully. Bullies will try to put other people beneath themselves so they can feel better about themselves. So stop hanging out with him. Don't game with him. Don't introduce girls to him . Don't …
/r/seduction03/03/17 08:59 PM
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Yeah cold read is a great way to go! Try to say things that are amusing to YOU. You're probably tripping yourself up by trying to come up with the perfect thing to say. Take a chance and say something silly. Off the top of my head for this situation: " look at you, you're like the three girl musketeers over here" " what is this the cool table?" " too cool to stand like everyone else here hey?" " what's with the table? Omg can you order food here?" " girls night out? Ok which one of you got dumpe…
/r/seduction01/03/17 12:41 AM
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Yeah "seeking" to talk to strangers comes off as seeking validation. Actually talking to strangers is value giving and makes it look like you know everyone. Hence why you don't stand on the wall or walk around looking for the perfect moment to open. Don't worry about overdoing it. If you need a break, then by all means, take a moment to yourself. But otherwise, go talk to people. 3 second rule and go.
/r/seduction28/02/17 05:20 PM
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Yeah I know what you mean. I am naturally introverted so it is usually a challenge to get excited about talking to strangers. I can get around this by taking to the first person I see and then minimizing the time in between interactions. Social momentum is key
/r/seduction28/02/17 04:52 AM
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I can't decide which is worse: standing on the wall with your beer on your chest or wandering aimlessly hoping that someone will talk to you. Both are terrible. The answer is to actively engage the people around you. A good place to start is to lean against something in a busy area and chat up the nearest person. There's also nothing wrong with moving around. Just do so with a smile on your face with relaxed and open body language. Look straight ahead. Don't wander. Of course it always best to h…
/r/seduction28/02/17 12:02 AM
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Own it. Attractive men make themselves stand out on purpose because they can take the social pressure. Dressing up is almost always a good idea. At least wear clothes that fit you properly. Nothing gay about that
/r/seduction27/02/17 04:54 PM
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I personally think canned openers are cheesy. I used them when I was very new to the game and they're good to start approaching. But I started to notice some inherent problems. The main one being that it's hard to maintain spontaneous delivery if you've said the same damn thing to 20 other girls already. Once I got a little better and gained confidence in my game, I found that "going in raw" produced better results. Just follow the 3 second rule and say whatever pops into your head. This will de…
/r/seduction25/02/17 08:08 PM
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The most common complaint I hear from guys who don't go to bars or clubs is " It's too loud. I can't have a conversation with anyone" Don't let the loud hectic environment discourage you. Communicate with your body. It's ok to lean in close and yell in someones ear if you have to. I would just check the place out. Introduce yourself to people. Relax and breath . Smile, laugh and have fun!! Don't take it too seriously. People are there to let loose and just have a good time so don't be afraid to …
/r/seduction24/02/17 09:08 PM
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Something you can say in almost any situation ( even when a girl says something mean about you) is " thanks, what else do you like about me?" Said with a smile and half joking is the way to go. But digging a little deeper, the fact that she didn't give you her number leads me to believe that she meant it in a negative way. That's ok tho! It's better that she feels something negative than nothing at all. For next time, try working on your calibration for the given situation. Maybe you were trying…
/r/seduction11/02/17 06:52 PM
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Women age like bread, men age like wine. You just get better the older you get:)
/r/seduction05/02/17 08:50 PM
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I agree with this. Younger guys just have some advantages over older guys like proximity and looks. And so it's probably easier to get laid as a younger guy all things being equal. But I think what OP is trying to get across is that you can be an older guy and bang hot 20 somethings IF YOU HAVE YOUR SHIT TOGETHER. It's quite rare for a man to be in his 30s and 40s, have a solid career, be emotionally and financially stable, AND BE FUN, POPULAR AND IN SHAPE. If you can pull that off, you will be …
/r/seduction05/02/17 08:46 PM
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Fuck yeah! This needs more upvotes. Belief systems are HUGE in game.
/r/seduction02/02/17 11:37 PM
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He wouldn't even care or notice. A bug on the windshield. He'd probably laugh in her face and then makeout with her friend.
/r/seduction30/01/17 08:45 AM
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Best advice I can give you is to not try too hard. Make it simple and don't play it up in your mind. A simple compliment or "how's your day going?" would be a great place to start.
/r/seduction30/01/17 08:38 AM
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Good advice. Accepting your negative state is huge man. I remember the exact night when I realized this. I was trying so hard to just be funny and fun and was getting blown out repeatedly. To the point where I had to sit out for a while and just hang my head like "wtf is going on?" Then I just accepted it. Like " fuck it, im having a bad night! I'm in a bad mood and I'm pissed that girls don't like me!" Then I went up to the first hot girl I saw and told her pretty much exactly that. She thought…
/r/seduction30/01/17 08:34 AM
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I know exactly where you're coming from. It's very frustrating. But everyone has bad nights. The trick is to try and minimize the bad nights. And then learn how to make the OK nights into good nights. Try paying attention to everything that goes on in your life before even going out. What are you doing and how are you thinking/behaving the day-of or even the week before going out? For example, iv personally noticed that if I'm being lazy like skipping days at the gym or if I've been putting some…
/r/seduction30/01/17 08:19 AM
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What percentage is 'consistently' What percentage would you be happy with? 60 / 40 is not bad at all. Its a delusion to expect 100% of girls to be friendly on the open. But if you get really good at it, and are having a good night, its not unreasonable to expect 90/95% to be friendly at least. When you get good at opening the rejections stop being such a big deal and they start to become like a normal part of a good conversation. Girls will start to say things like " Im actually not looking to m…
/r/seduction28/01/17 10:33 PM
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if a girl is someone who only wants handsome, tall guys, it's basically impossible to 'turn her If this is what you believe than it is exactly what you will get. Looks and height are not things that you can change so they are not useful to worry about in game. Owen Cook has an acronym that helps remind you how to take care of this thought process, WINS: Workout, Image(clothing/style), Nutrition, Shut the fuck up and approach. I've already practiced, practiced, practiced and i've read all of the …
/r/seduction28/01/17 10:22 PM
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Instead of focusing on trying to "get" the girl, focus on how you can get better in general. Is it possible to win a girl over after she says she's not interested? Yeah totally. But if you are consistently getting bad responses on the initial open, you should probably work on that. If you really want to get better at this stuff, you have to be able to determine your own sticking points and make a conscious effort to work on them. Learning how to open effectively is imperative because that's when…
/r/seduction28/01/17 08:30 PM
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Keep doing what you are doing, it is all good stuff! Build social momentum: Make an attempt to talk to complete strangers everyday. Everyday! Don't take a day off! Talk to the first person you see when you leave the house in the morning. Say good morning to the mailman passing by. Wave to your neighbour as they leave. Give a simple compliment to the first girl you see. Express yourself in every way that you can! Remember that sharing is caring. Share your thoughts, emotions, attitudes etc. Peopl…
/r/seduction13/01/17 11:49 PM
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She probably did appreciate your presence. You're just not making her pussy wet. If you want to do that, you have to learn seduction. Keep going man , it will get easier I swear!
/r/seduction06/01/17 08:06 AM
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It sounds like you want to be in a relationship. I would embrace that and not try to fight it. Just realize that you should try to find that relationship out of abundance. The best way to get a solid relationship with a girl that you really really like, is to embrace the single life so fully that you hardly want to be with one girl anymore - ie. have fun banging lots of girls. To cultivate abundance properly takes time and effort and almost a self-induced brainwashing that shatters the remnants …
/r/seduction06/01/17 07:43 AM
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You deserve to date girls that you find attractive. You deserve to have the love and intimacy and sex that you want. You need to believe these things about yourself or else no one else is going to believe it either. By settling to be with girls you arent attracted to, you are reinforcing the belief that you are a guy that only deserves to date girls at that level. Fuck that. Start cultivating empowering beliefs. Start believing that you can date hot girls and start taking action to get them. If …
/r/seduction02/01/17 09:27 AM
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Yes these things are very true. Maybe an even more important point is that you don't actually risk anything by making a move. Let's say you're making out, you go to take her clothes off and she stops you. A needy weirdo that doesn't get many girls would act all butthurt about it. A confident man would probably stop and ask her what's wrong, have a little chat about it and try again later. Maybe it comes out that she doesn't want to have sex with you now or later. That's fine. Now you know that y…
/r/seduction19/12/16 09:09 PM
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Say "let's get some water!" Make it a statement not a question like "hey are you thirsty?" Make a drinking motion with your hand in case she didn't hear you. Grab her hand and walk. Don't ask. Lead. Go to the bar and get water. Chat and take it from there. A few points: -Lead her off the dance floor at a high point. Ex. When you're dancing really close or making out ect. This will improve your chances of her compliance. start with small moves. ex. Get water, chat by the bar, go to a table to mee…
/r/seduction14/12/16 04:29 AM
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I feel yea man. Maybe my own experience with this might help. I was a hopeless romantic years ago. I would do shit like write songs for my girlfriend and only play them for her. Then she broke my heart and I decided that girls were all hoes. I decided to never get into another relationship and that I'd be a straight up pimp that just banged bitches and didn't call them back. That mindset obviously got old and made me lonely. So then I decided years later, tons of flings later that I wanted a gf …
/r/seduction08/12/16 12:31 AM
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Good heads up for the beginners! I made this mistake when first learning game. Tried a new routine I read on the internet on the very first day of collage. It came off as just weird. Turns out that the girl was in most of my classes for the next few years. I could hardly look her in the eye. It was embarrassing as fuck. But I got over it and learned my lesson and honestly don't even think about that shit anymore. It's painful mistakes like this that you learn the most from. You can game girls at…
/r/seduction06/12/16 01:37 AM
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Hey just came here to say thank you and that you were totally right. I read your post this morning, made a simple story on my snapchat about going to work/school and some other basic stuff that happened to me all day. Got three different people reach out to me including a girl I havnt seen in about 2 years. Am now making plans with her to hangout at some point
/r/seduction22/11/16 02:51 AM
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Funny how when you "don't try" while simultaneously being clear with your intent, things seem to work out 😊
/r/seduction18/11/16 03:30 PM
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In an ideal situation , it would be cool to just talk to the hot girls. But there are some advantages to the approach machine tactic. 1. It gives you lots of practice with starting interactions. 2. It puts you into a social state of mind. It kind of removes this invisible barrier that exists in your mind between you and other people. 3. It helps you that hot girls are no different instead of building up the importance of it in your head.If you chat up 5 average looking girls, chatting up the hot…
/r/seduction04/11/16 02:36 PM
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Yeah same goes for posters of inspirational people in your bedroom. You always hear it from motivational speakers to pick a mentor and use their ideals to inspire you
/r/seduction03/11/16 11:56 PM
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Hey man! This might not be the kind of answer you're looking for but it's my honest take on the situation. As soon as you start looking at ways to game a specific girl, or you start analyzing how to out game another guy in your social circle, you have missed the point. I say this because there is basically no magic trick to out-game another guy. You just have to be cooler, and more fun than him. Iv had bad experiences with trying to compete for a girls attention. You can get real needy real fast…
/r/seduction29/10/16 12:44 AM
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Ok . If thinking about things like "was she justified?" "Am I in the wrong?" " was she rude?" Ect. Then you're asking the wrong questions and wasting way too much energy thinking about this. Figure out what kind of girls you want to be with Only spend time with those kind of girls It's really that simple. If she does something you don't like, tell her you don't like it. If she's sorry, great, give her another chance. If she does more stuff you don't like, move the fuck on!! Find more girls that …
/r/seduction29/10/16 12:06 AM
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Hmm yeah! That makes sense, you start to push conditions onto her. Which is another product of neediness. You need to feel worthy of her so you project your fantasy of a "perfect relationship" instead of letting things naturally unfold. Didn't think of it like that till now, thanks
/r/seduction14/10/16 05:56 PM
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Yeah I get this too. I think most guys do. Can't give you a solid answer cause I'm still working on it myself. But I think it has to do with the way that we tend to interpret our feelings. What I mean by this is: When it "doesnt matter" if you get the girl or not, you have very little emotional investment because you literally don't care if she dumps you on the spot - this makes you very attractive so seduction is easy as pie. As soon as it "matters", you naturally have more emotional investment…
/r/seduction13/10/16 07:13 PM
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This reminds me of this: "When you are in low consciousness you are intimidated by beautiful women. When you are in medium consciousness, you are turned on by beautiful women. When you are in high consciousness, you are turned on by yourself." RSD Owen
/r/seduction05/10/16 12:50 AM
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Yeah this is absolutely an all or nothing move which is why it is so effective. You could meet her half way. There's nothing wrong with that. The Only reason I say move on if she doesn't notice you is because, if you do it right, she should definitely notice you. If she turns away, ignores you ect. that means you probably need to tweak your body language, be louder, make better eye contact, be more assertive ect.
/r/seduction30/09/16 09:00 PM
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Stop, point your finger at her and say, "You! Come here. Let's dance" If she notices you, grab her hand and pull her in close, start dancing + touching her body. If she doesn't notice you and turns away, don't chase after her, go back to dancing and try again on another girl in a bit. Important to dos: - Make strong eye contact - plant your feet, stand tall, confident and open body language - smile😊😊😊 Important DO NOTS: - do not grab a girl from behind - do not look away half way through your op…
/r/seduction30/09/16 02:44 PM
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You can only be good with women if you are good with yourself. Depression is a tricky one man. It's like an invisible gravity that constantly drags you towards a pit of despair. If you give up and let it drag you in, there is pretty much no bottom to that pit. So it's imperative that you take action now and start walking the other way. You need to do small things for yourself. Then once you build momentum, do more and bigger things for yourself. By caring about your needs and your desires, you w…
/r/seduction23/09/16 02:14 PM
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Getting good at game is like hiking the Grand Canyon - it's an experience. You could read all about hiking the Grand Canyon, watch videos, read journals, study papers ect., but you would never know what's it's really all about unless you actually did it. All the material, tips, tricks, seduction info you could ever read are just attempts by people to explain their experience. It's inspiring, entertaining and helpful to gain insight into your own experience. But you have to actually take action b…
/r/seduction19/09/16 05:15 AM
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Yes exactly! But I would challenge you to try and go one step further and even release from the outcome of having fun. Being dependent on the outcome of fun is far less needy than being dependant on the outcome of getting laid, but it is still an outcome none the less. In the same way that your state can spiral downwards from an obsession with getting approval, you can also spiral from an obsession with having fun. I know it sounds counterintuitive to just give up and exist in whatever state you…
/r/seduction11/09/16 08:52 PM
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Not gunna lie, didn't read your entire post, it's quite long sorry. But I think you might be awakening to a deeper layer of the game. The layer where external circumstances are more or less irrelevant. The reason it seems weird to "approach" women is because this way of thinking creates a separation between you and her. By going out to "approach", the underlining affirmation to yourself is that she is hard to reach, that you are not enough, and that you must change yourself or partake in some ex…
/r/seduction09/09/16 02:36 PM
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Honestly go about your day and focus on your studies. It needs to be apparent that you have a purpose for being at collage. Most kids are honestly just wondering around trying to "fit in". If you have a mission and a purpose, this should naturally give you a skip in your step and put a smile on your face. People will want to be part of whatever you're doing cause you seem to be having fun and accomplishing shit. Waiting in line to pick up books in the bookstore -> "Hey you taking psychology too?…
/r/seduction25/08/16 02:28 PM
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Yeah definitely don't night "game" girls on campus. It can very easily come off as creepy and weird. I actually did this when I first started learning game
/r/seduction25/08/16 02:09 PM
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TLDR; how to date a model - Fix your shit, live a cool life, and share it with her
/r/seduction23/08/16 05:20 PM
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When you first learn her name, say it out loud three times while you slowly study her face. This will ensure that you remember it and also makes her feel special. Remember that a person's own name is the sweetest sound to their ears.
/r/seduction16/08/16 03:31 PM
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The external effect of having low self confidence and acting needy is actually a manifestation of an internal conflict. For me, I experience conflict when I'm not living my life's purpose. It's sort of like I have an idea of "the most attractive version" of myself and I tend to compare that idea with "myself right now". This is natural I think for a man because men are very goal orientated and generally like to use logic to solve problems. If I am not working towards fulfilling my dreams and bec…
/r/seduction15/08/16 09:15 PM
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Short answer, yes. Iv heard the stat a few times that even the super players realistically have sex with 20 or 30 percent of the women they show interest in. So no matter who you are, you're going to get rejected more often than not. That's not to say that you can't walk into a club, put your arm around the first girl you see, and go home with her 20 minutes later. I have been there and done that but I still have blowout nights. So I guess it just comes down to how you view rejection? You could …
/r/seduction03/08/16 07:53 PM
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Another night a few weeks later I happened to be at the same club for a friend's bday party. I was socializing but only hit on a few girls here and there. I was hanging around the beer tub girl cause I knew her and basically used that area as "home base" ( kinda like OP was suggesting) Then all of a sudden I saw a short little cuttie walking my way so I pointed at her and said "you! Come with me, let's go dance" We went and danced for a little while, made out, & got drinks. It was cool because w…
/r/seduction19/07/16 03:36 PM
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That's a fair comment. I didn't get the pussy so I ultimately failed. But the idea is that I did make a legitimate connection. She did actually give a fuck. Even if she didn't hop on my cock, she still cared. It was a positive note in a sea of otherwise nonsense and bullshit interaction. I guess I'm operating under the paradigm that sincere emotional connection with women is desirable. If you operate under a different paradigm, for example: that getting your pee pee wet is the ultimate goal no m…
/r/seduction18/07/16 06:37 PM
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I think the most important point he makes is that it's ok to show that you're having a bad night. It reminds me of one time I was out. I was an approach machine, I talked to dozens of girls. The opening went well but the interaction always seemed to fizzle out and girls seemed kind of repulsed by me. This is uncharacteristic of my game because I can usually do well with girls after the convo gets going. I started getting frustrated, and before long, I almost felt like I was approaching out of sp…
/r/seduction17/07/16 05:37 PM
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Absolutely. We chatted, laughed, I took her number, went out on a date to a vegetarian restaurant and ended up sleeping with her for a month or two. I don't think the opener had anything to do with what happened next. But it was pretty funny at the time
/r/seduction29/06/16 06:06 AM
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I opened once with "Wow I never sit at the front of the train. I guess we'll be the first to die if we hit something." It's funny what your brain comes up with somtimes...
/r/seduction28/06/16 03:51 PM
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The best time to open her was yesterday, but the second best time to open her is today!
/r/seduction20/06/16 03:16 PM
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Go out and get some damn experience. One night of talking to tons of people is worth a week of reading material and watching infield videos
/r/seduction05/06/16 05:25 PM
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Experience is by far the biggest true confidence builder. Try new things. Make mistakes. Fail hard and laugh about it. Be a little prick. Tell people off. Be inappropriate. Fall in love. Get your guts ripped out. Get back on your horse. Go out and get rejected. Go out and bang 50 million girls. Fall in love again. Get your guts ripped out again. Cry. Apologize. Above all, never stop learning. As soon as you think you're done learning, that is when you start the suck.
/r/seduction01/06/16 07:55 PM
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Nice. I agree with everything you said here. Just adding new to your "keep it simple" point: DON'T PICK HER UP ON THE FIRST DATE Iv made this mistake a few times before. I have since realized that it's not a great idea. I thought , "hey I have a nice car and it's clean inside. I can show her I am not a slob and that I'm generous enough to take care of transportation". Yeah all true. but for god sakes, not on the first date. If she has to rely on you to pick her up and then drive her home after, …
/r/seduction19/05/16 04:26 PM
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And this is why the "pickup community" is broken. What you are describing is a funny little catch -22 that is perpetuated, intentionally or not, by the people that sell pickup material: You feel like you need women to be happy, so you invest time and energy and self-worth into attaining that goal. This investment by nature creates neediness. So pickup recognizes this symptom of neediness and teaches you to be "outcome independent" or "self-amusing". They give you techniques and exercises that sm…
/r/seduction17/05/16 05:36 AM
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You're acting needy because you are depending on an outcome. That outcome is to get the girl interested, to get her number, or eventually have sex with you. This outcome dependence will automatically make you needy. By going out to pick up girls, you need to take value from the interaction to feel like you accomplished something. Believe it or not, this is probably the root of most of the AA you're experiencing. So how can you fix this? The answer is to stop being outcome dependant, stop being n…
/r/seduction30/04/16 04:53 PM
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I like how he stood his ground. That was one good thing...
/r/seduction11/01/16 06:58 AM
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Sometimes being an attractive man means saying no. You have standards and are not willing to hang out with a girl who interrupts you and makes bad conversation. Now you know that you don't have to spend any more time or energy on this girl. That's a win my friend!
/r/seduction01/02/15 07:24 AM
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I used to be out there slingin dick all over the place. In the mall, at school, walking down the street. Now I need to be in the right place/ time or the right mood, or whatever. I do like myself, except for the fact that I have been acting like a pussy lately.
/r/seduction22/01/15 05:04 AM
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Yes you want her attention, but only on your OWN terms. An attractive man assumes that he is able to get a girls attention and therefore he will. Let me put it this way: When Alexander the Great wanted the Persian Empire's attention , he didn't sit on the doorstep waiting for it. Models will explain more. You don't have to become a player to get better with women . If you're serious about improving your game than I strongly recommend going to amazon and ordering the book ASAP
/r/seduction14/01/15 04:14 PM
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You have to show investment in her perception yes. But always LESS than your OWN perception. I know thinking about it in terms of she-says-this & I-say-that seems gamey and is tiring. An attractive man doesn't need to think about what to say or how to act, he just does it. If you're interested in developing your attractive mindset, Read Models by Mark Manson. ( I know everyone is in love with it on this sub, but seriously, he cuts through the bullshit and really gets to the point) I'm just going…
/r/seduction13/01/15 12:04 AM
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Douchebag is already harsh. Agree and amplify. If she's willing to toss a beak or two, you can't be afraid to toss back. Tone and body language is also infinitely important here, like in passing any shit test
/r/seduction12/01/15 05:32 PM
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Slap a grin on your face and say: "And you're filthy slut, wanna go out?"
/r/seduction11/01/15 10:56 PM
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I don't think texting is a good time for push and pull. Its just too easy to misconstrue the meaning and intentions of your text. The purpose of push-pull (AKA flirting) is to raise attraction and slightly raise comfort. From my experience, its really hard to actually RAISE attraction through texting. You can maintain it at best. I usually keep texts short. Focus on making plans and toss in occasional jokes and silly material. If you are going to be straight up sarcastic, be damn sure she is goi…
/r/seduction11/01/15 10:45 PM
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You need to get some fundamental knowledge my friend. Look on the sidebar of this reddit and read the suggested material. Getting laid is not about doing one magical thing. It's more like doing a thousand things
/r/seduction11/01/15 04:40 AM
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Firstly, asking "what do you do " isn't really a shit test. She's probably genuinely interested in you. That's an IOI. In contrast, " What're you one of those grad-student guys? Shouldn't you be at home studying?" Is a shit test. Because she's trying to force a frame onto you or judge you based on a preconceived idea. When you are agreeing and amplifying, your delivery is probably off. Remember that 90 % of communication is through body language and extralanguistic info. If she's obviously not g…
/r/seduction10/01/15 09:45 PM
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I like the part where you introduced yourself to the friends. We've all been there. If the friends get a bad impression, they can and will cockblock you. You handled it like a champ. An intro and a bit of silly banter is often enough to warm them up to the idea of you fucking their friend.
/r/seduction10/01/15 08:41 PM
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Thanks for saying this. I started to get success with women FAR before I learned to be confident with women. I eventually realized that I was housing an empty shell of a personality. And I developed a fake bullshit sort of character that was only capable of getting his dick wet once and a while. I want guys on here to realize that PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT is the name of the game. So what if you can get laid using tinder? So what if you can get laid X amount of times? These things don't mean anything…
/r/seduction07/01/15 08:20 PM
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Show them that you see through their game. BUT DONT BE ANNOYED BY IT! If you show that their manipulative behaviour affects you, they will smell blood and keep trying. Reply with an attitude something like " aww how cute , you actually think I'm going to cater to your every need because you're a pretty girl. Sorry, I'm not like every other guy, try again." You are an attractive man. You don't cater to anyone unless you think they've earned it or there is a logical reason to do so.
/r/seduction24/12/14 07:51 PM
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It kinda freaked me out when I discovered this too. I think we live in a time where we are frequently in more open and honest dialogue. Like women are just not afraid to express their true sexual desires now a day. Traditional values usually present women as celibate, dainty and innocent. This belief system is completely wrong. You'll start to find that most women are just as freaky and horny as guys. In direct contrast to common social conditioning, that's just the way it is. So I guess, just g…
/r/seduction17/12/14 11:51 AM
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You have to make concrete plans or have more of a connection than that. Like dancing for an hour is fun. But it ain't something she'll remember in the morning. You have to blow her mind with some next level stuff! In her mind, are you going to be " the generous fellow who bought me and my friends drinks and knew how to 2-step" or are you going to be " OMG, that guy was fucking amazing last night! He made me feel butterflies".
/r/seduction17/12/14 10:05 AM
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You don't have an obligation to tell her anything unless she asks. But why would you want to be with this girl if she wants something different than you do? You should make it obvious what you want. And if she is receptive to your idea of casual dating , great! Keep going with her. If it becomes obvious that she really wants a relationship, then there's no point in trying to hookup with her. Just friendzone her. Flirting with her for attention is like jerking off without cumming. It feels kinda …
/r/seduction17/12/14 09:54 AM
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All girls can be intimate. If you really like that side of her, you should not be afraid to show that side of yourself. Try to put your arm around her. Or hold her hand when no one else is looking. Those are intimate gestures. If those things go well then just go for the kiss. If you guys are kissing and holding hands then you are basically dating. Ask her to be your gf. Then she might be comfortable enough to talk about having sex. The first time is super important for a girl remember ( assumin…
/r/seduction17/12/14 09:45 AM
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You were able to get pretty solid compliance with a hot chick , 4 or 5 years older than you. That seems like a win. When she said "I know your games", it's a shit test. She was giving you a chance to flirt back -- to see if you really had it in you. My impression was that she was impressed with your confidence for trying to pull the moves. And she was probably mildly curious to see what kind of guy you are. But she wasn't entirely convinced if she could take you seriously. You could pass that sh…
/r/seduction17/12/14 09:29 AM
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Just wanted to be thorough :p thanks for reading
/r/seduction17/12/14 06:06 AM
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This is a great FR! I like how you're focusing on the self improvement. A lot of guys on hear seem to want a magic pill to get them laid or make them better with women or whatever. But it doesn't work like that. You need a strong foundation and to feel proud about yourself. If you don't feel good about yourself, than the girls won't feel good about cha either. Keep up the good work!
/r/seduction13/12/14 08:23 PM
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Haha ok, your post just seems too perfect . It's something that Iv noticed and seems to be common with beautiful women. Sometimes I feel sorry for hot girls. Like everyone expects you to be a certain way or expects you to judge every single boy you meet to a que. Guys assume that since you are pretty, that you have some sort of insane standard of man you want to be with. And so the majority of guys you interact with are petrified, trying not to "mess up" and they turn into stammering fools. Or t…
/r/seduction13/12/14 03:50 AM
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Ask yourself: Am I being goofy to impress the girls, or am I doing it because I enjoy acting like a goof. It may seem irrelevant, like wtf does it matter why I'm acting silly, I'm making people laugh and having fun right? In seduction , your reasoning has everything to do with it. If you are purposely trying to make the girls laugh so that they will like you, you will come off as needy, try-hard and unattractive. Maybe you can fake it for a bit , but the girls have a sixth sense for when you are…
/r/seduction12/12/14 11:54 PM
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Are you just a guy trying to make a very important point on here? Most guys are intimidated by pretty girls. The whole purpose of this sub IMO is to convince normal dudes that hot girls are NOT monsters or bitches or whatever. And that it's a mans job to talk to the pretty girl and show his attraction to her without being a creep. If you actually are a girl, Thanks for coming on
/r/seduction12/12/14 08:36 PM
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"Getting rid of AA one and for all, or at least developing methods that kill it, each time and quickly" From your field report it sounds like this is the most important thing to learn from the night. The thing about AA is that it never goes away, not really. You said you had 5 good nights before this night right? The truth is that you could have 100 good nights in a row and still end up in shitsville on night 101. But YOU DIDNT GIVE UP! That's the most important thing. You went up and sang in fr…
/r/seduction12/12/14 08:25 PM
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Get yourself pumped before leaving for the night! Blast your favourite tunes, dance in the mirror, sing along, take a shot before leaving, whatever it takes. Dress up a little so you look good and then stop thinking about your appearance. Once you're at the bar, assume that you look fucking amazing and every girl is turning to look at you - "is my hair alright?", "maybe my shirt is all crinkly?", " did I put enough cologne on?" - this shit never enters your head from this moment on. Think of you…
/r/seduction12/12/14 07:59 PM
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And your advice instead is to just be "be confident", "go with the flow", "just talk about whatever". Of course that's the end goal, to become natural on dates and have natural conversations that naturally lead to romantic encounters. But people come here for specific things to do and try. Maybe the OP doesn't have the stunning confidence that you do, so it doesn't help to say "you just have to pick up on it." --> yea thanks for the tip
/r/seduction12/12/14 07:42 PM
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This is an awesome FR. Sometimes I learn more from situations that don't work out, like wtf was she thinking? She could have been religious too, some Christian girls have this weird thing where they like to tease guys and then shame them for getting the wrong impression.
/r/seduction12/12/14 07:26 PM
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Sometimes a girl keeps guys around as "friends" for constant affirmation. These guys are usually the "nice" type and they stick around giving the girl praise and adoration -- hoping that one day she'll realize the man of her dreams was in-front of her all along (or whatever it is). "Nice" guys are great for a girls self esteem. She feels wanted, chased and desired. I don't see anything innately wrong with this on a girls part, we're all humans after all, she feels good around these guys so they …
/r/seduction03/12/14 05:31 PM
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Don't ever send angry texts like this, it's not going to help any situation at all. Given the limited context, I would've treated her comment as a shit test. But by telling her to fuck off, you came off as a needy needy needster. Instead reply with an attitude like this, " awww how cute! you think that I missed out because you gave your number to another guy too! " If you're not interested anymore, just don't reply, simple as that.
/r/seduction02/12/14 10:26 PM
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You have gotten yourself to the point where you don't need to sleep with every hot woman that likes you -- Only the hot women that you really really like. That's a really positive thing. No need to feel bad about this. No problem here
/r/seduction02/12/14 09:20 PM
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I agree with you! We should all be honest with ourselves--the reasons that we are learning to seduce. Iv noticed my goals change substantially over the course of my seduction journey. That's why I am disappointed by some people's attitudes on here. You should not be looking for a shortcut or a " hack" -- the easiest and most reliable way to get your dick wet. Why? The only way to become a truly attractive person is to become attractive to yourself(ie. love yourself) The only way to genuinely lov…
/r/seduction30/11/14 09:46 PM
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Woooo! By take this first step you are separating yourself from the majority of men out there! It wasn't the prettiest or the smoothest, but good things come with perseverance.
/r/seduction30/11/14 09:30 PM
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There's tons of hot girls at Mcdonalds! Haven't you seen their commercials?
/r/seduction29/11/14 06:36 PM
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Your "confidence' is a relative thing. some days youll feel really confident and some days you wont. Think of your confident days as a reward for your hard work -- The unconfident days as when you push outside your comfort zone and get stronger. I find that my confidence comes from a place where I can respect myself, and that has nothing to do with how many people like me. If I am dead honest with myself and I'm putting an honest effort towards achienving my goals, then I can respect myself. Onc…
/r/seduction29/11/14 06:55 AM
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Don't underestimate Micks! I got a bj in a Mcdonalds bathroom once. I met the girl that night at the same McDs at about 2 in the morning. You never know where this seduction stuff might take you, not until you try
/r/seduction27/11/14 09:24 PM
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Go for it! She is most likely still interested
/r/seduction23/11/14 09:55 PM
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This is limited thinking man ! Don't think in terms of "what class do I fit into?" You deserve the hottest girls out there. Besides a woman's perception on a man's looks are a highly dynamic thing. Focus on your dress, your hygiene/grooming , your posture but most importantly, your BEHAVIOUR. Yea if you looked like a Channing Tatum type character, the game would proabably be easier for you. But I am a firm believer in the old cliche that "looks don't matter". Just assume that you are the hottest…
/r/seduction22/11/14 06:00 PM
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Holy fucking shit this is a long ass post how would you expect anyone to read this? I will read and reply because I'm drunk and high and your long ass FR reminds me of the FRs I used to write. So in regards to your night, you included a lot of details. I'll just comment on the errors that are the most important -- don't sweat the small stuff at the beginning like kinoing at X time, or missing a opportunity to DHV in Y conversation. You don't have to do everything perfect. In fact, this is unreal…
/r/seduction22/11/14 09:45 AM
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Whether you stand in one place or hit the dance floor, the main thing is that you are having fun. If you are a standing around kind of guy then yea your tactic is perfect for you. If you are good dancer and have the most fun dancing, than you should definitely go do that.
/r/seduction20/11/14 05:28 AM
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Yea and thats the challenge you have to overcome should you choose to accept it soldier! I think of a club like a stripped-down, bare bones version of real life human interaction. If you take away all the bullshit that comes along with an "appropriate workplace environment" or the monotonous drag of everyday chores like the supermarket or whatever, you are left with the purest form of gender interaction. Through some drinks into the mix and let people "socialize"--you have yourself a natural evo…
/r/seduction20/11/14 05:21 AM
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I think a lot of the analyzation comes up later when you think of the night in retrospect. Anybody that's good at socializing will act and react appropriately in this situation. How you process it and understand it varies. For those people that aren't intuitively skilled at the art of socializing, a system is required to break down the intricacies. Once you get good at your system , you can start acting on instinct, start breaking your own rules and having fun with it--essentially becoming " com…
/r/seduction10/11/14 11:24 PM
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You'd rather stay home and jerk it than go out and be social? I think you've stumbled upon the right forum
/r/seduction02/11/14 05:59 AM
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I met up with a guy from a lair like this once. He was alright with opening, but he had the same in-congruent vibe you are talking about here. He liked showing me pictures of hot girls hes banged, wouldnt shut up about guys he 'out-alphaed' or whatever -- he was just a gross human being. I think guys like this are exposing an already broken attitude, rather than expressing a symptom of practicing this material -- in other words, these guys are already fucked, they find pickup, read a bunch of bo…
/r/seduction26/10/14 09:19 PM
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Haha ya I read it a while ago. Mason pretty much confirmed for me what I thought I already learned from experience. It's a great book -- skips all the gimmicky stuff and gets to the heart of it.
/r/seduction27/09/14 10:34 PM
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If you want to get good at seduction , you're going to come off as "creepy" from time to time. Don't be ashamed of this. Just get over it . Ask a girl to describe a "creepy" guy to you. It's actually hard to put a finger on, they just know a creepy guy when they see him. The ironic thing is that many times you are walking a thin line between, edgy/confident and weird/creepy. The trick is to calibrate on the right side of the fence.
/r/seduction27/09/14 09:07 PM
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Ya you can use pretty much anything. Just don't put too much emphasis on the excuse. The other night I was at the bar, it was about 1230 and I said, " I'm having a great time but my friends want to go. You should come hang out at my place." We went back to my place and played video games till about 3 and then had sex. You just gotta lead the way, assume that anyone would want to come back to your place, and whoever doesn't is a silly bitch.
/r/seduction27/09/14 05:31 PM
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Hahaha don't be too embarrassed. Play that off like you don't give two fucks that she saw it. Iv definitely sent worse by accident.
/r/seduction23/09/14 10:41 PM
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I love these kinda FRs. Ya got knocked down but you got right back up. That's what counts in this game.
/r/seduction19/09/14 02:12 PM
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Lightly put your hand over her phone and say " Hey the shows up here!" Obviously joking and smiling. If she looks annoyed or pissed, turn to her friends and say "look how upset she got! I can't believe it , how adorable!" something like that. If she doesn't have friends right next to her, then just walk away. She just missed her chance with you cause she was distracted by her phone, too bad!
/r/seduction14/09/14 11:28 PM
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Have a few little toys lieing around. Like one of those Sliding puzzles, or a rubix cube, or even a catch the ball on the spike thing. Have a nice little couch or armchair to lounge on, make your room a chill area, not just a bland closet space where you take her to do the nasty and then leave.
/r/seduction14/09/14 05:13 PM
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Very well put! Iv been doing this for a while now without realizing it, but Tyler hits it home. A very important idea he mentions is how so many guys show up at the club with an agenda and come off as creepy. It's a deadly cycle: -You show up at the club , you jump in and talk to some girls, it doesn't go well cause you just showed up and your not having fun. Then you get butt hurt cause you got rejected and are having less fun. You try again and it goes even worse. Now you're having even less f…
/r/seduction11/09/14 08:30 PM
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Enjoy yourself at the party first! Girls come second! If you're having fun yourself, people will want to be around you. Before the party: Shower, Shave, brush your teeth and put your Fav party shirt on. Look as swag as you can be, that way you wont even think about it. You know you look good and can focus on other things. If you don't like dancing, then don't do that. You know how to party right? Do what you like to do at parties and if you are sincerely having fun, then talking to girls will be…
/r/seduction09/09/14 04:55 PM
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Just like getting in shape, being social takes commitment. It's not enough to just dope around in your life talking to people here and there. You gotta pick goals and stick to em. A newbie task that I used to do in my early days was -- go out to a crowded area one afternoon and ask 10 people for the time. Or 5 people the time, and 5 people where to get a good sandwich. That's it. That's all. Easy as pie right? It's essentially the equivalent of bench pressing the bar to get the technique down. T…
/r/seduction03/09/14 11:58 PM
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Good man, don't do what I did haha. I'd Literally just meet everyone you can. When you sit beside somone new, look em in the eye , give em a handshake , say "Hi I'm so and so". Make small talk if time permits. Make an effort to remember their names!! You will learn quickly who's names are worth remembering, but at first, try to remember as many names as possible. When you go to parties, events, get togethers and all that shit, it's super easy to go up to that kid you met in the library if you kn…
/r/seduction03/09/14 11:17 PM
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I tried to "game" a few class mates like my first week in my first year of collage. I came off as super awkward, completely ridiculous, and ultimately douchey. The girls, of course, told everyone about my advances and I quickly earned myself a reputation as "The creepy pickup guy". And that's a hard rep to shake. Yea make mistakes! Yea have abundance mentality! Yea try new things, push limits and live with no fear! But For fuck sakes, don't try out a new line or routine or some shit you read on …
/r/seduction03/09/14 08:37 PM
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True true - guess my analogy isn't quite accurate. Trying to attract women while being out of shape would be like showing up to hockey tryouts with a shitty wooden Sherwood 1200 while everyone else has brand new composite Eastons Why give yourself that handicap?
/r/seduction28/08/14 07:30 PM
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Trying to attract woman without being in shape is kind of like showing up for hockey tryouts without knowing how to skate
/r/seduction28/08/14 03:25 PM
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I think a proper response actually does matter in this case. Given two responses, where one demonstrates more confidence than the other, you'd want to say the better of the two right? In many scenarios, you could get away with saying "thanks I like your ____" but only if you genuinely LIKE something else about her--it's all about the intentions of your comment. But a better GUT REACTION to compliments in general would be to say "I know, thanks" for the reasons that Zac Fair mentioned. The advice…
/r/seduction21/08/14 03:23 PM
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Yup, the difference between being honest with yourself and just doing enough to appear confident in front of others
/r/seduction20/08/14 04:24 PM
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Holding eye contact is like telling someone that you aren't afraid of the possibility of striking up a conversation. And this communicates that you must be socially competent, and that is a very attractive thing
/r/seduction19/08/14 03:11 PM
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Dude, keep doing what you are doing and don't try too hard in the HS game. I've been out of HS for a few years now and I'll break it down for you right now: You might be shit out of luck for hooking up with those hot popular girls-- at least right now. The reason why is exactly what you just described --You didn't make friends with the right people in middle school and have been playing socialproof-catchup ever since. But don't be discouraged. The "popular guys" who seem to date the hot girls in…
/r/seduction16/08/14 04:03 PM
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I agree with all that except In that I guess I'm measuring my success on how well I learn to manage my relationships, not necessarily how many girls I get to "practice on". I'd rather have 2 or 3 healthy romantic/sexual relationships than 10 shitty dead ends ones. Not saying you can't form healthy relationships from tinder. Just that no emotional investment is needed from you or her. So you will naturally end up with a bunch of on - off , maybe-we-like-each-other, oh-maybe-not relationships sort…
/r/seduction07/08/14 10:28 PM
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Ok I totally see where you are coming from. I guess my advice would be to discard the online dating as soon as possible. I actually feel like my game has suffered since Iv been able to get laid easily using tinder. Let's put it this way; how can you most effectively hone and project the masculine energy built within yourself that women crave and come back for time and time again? Sitting at home diddling your phone, waiting till someone takes to the 5 good pics of yourself on your profile, setti…
/r/seduction07/08/14 08:07 PM
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Just delete the app. You wanna get better at seducing women? Go out and talk to women in real fucking life. Trying to piddle your way through a computer screen till you get a date is a waste of time and effort. Ya i got hookups from tinder, with some hot girls too. Even some lasting relationships with cool people. But it doesn't challenge you and it doesn't push you outside your comfort zone. I feel like this whole tinder thing will blow over soon. Especially after the less attractive girls get …
/r/seduction07/08/14 03:30 PM
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Cold approach is a great idea! I did it tons in my early collage days and learned the ropes better than any of my friends! Just be careful who you are "gaming". Get into the habit of randomly talking to hot girls, yes. Do Not Try to use routines and flirt with every chick you meet right off the bat. I did this and quickly earned myself the reputation in some social circles as "the creepy pickup guy". Take it from me, That's a hard rep to shake. Instead, go for the rep as the confident, friendly …
/r/seduction29/07/14 03:25 PM
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Ya i guess the broad point I'm trying to get across is that seduction for men and women are two different things, but yet the same. For men it's about showing social competence, demonstrating value and confidently communicating his intentions. For women, it's more of a superficial thing. Hence why ugly girls are sorta out of luck. Look at the way Marilyn Monroe had every head turning when she walked in the room. Sure she was pretty, but she had that extra something, seductive power. Look at Brit…
/r/seduction26/07/14 11:18 PM
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Hey girl! I think the first thing you should know is that men's attraction towards women is largely superficial, especially when compared to women's attraction to men. So the discouraging truth in this is that somtimes there's nothing you can do when another chick with longer legs and silkier hair swoops in to steal your guy's attention. For this reason, an ugly man can do a looot more for himself than an ugly woman could to become more attractive. (I know It's completely unfair, but I didn't ma…
/r/seduction26/07/14 08:54 PM
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As soon as someone starts using "men" and "women" as subgroups, it immediately raises some red flags. Some people are cool, some people are selfish assholes. I think she needs to realize that this revelation is completely independent of gender. Just because someone with a penis did a certain something, doesn't mean that everyone with a penis does the same thing. I hope this woman is representing a minority of like-minded people.
/r/seduction18/06/14 04:23 PM
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Smirk and enthusiastically say " ya of course not, what exactly do you take me for Jessica?" If she has a comeback for this just say " you brought up sex, not me! Haha" ,..ect. If you're back at her place or yours, at some point you are going to make to make a move and go in caveman style. Try to cuddle her, if that works, try to kiss her. If that works, try to makeout and touch her. If you get to this point you should be in the clear. She doesn't want to stop. Just keep pushing boundaries until…
/r/seduction05/05/14 06:08 AM
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I love this idea! This is a perfect way to try new things, to get outside comfort zones and push each other to get better. Not to mention, a "weekly opener" or "weekly challenge" would provide an excellent frame of reference to which we could easily compare notes. Say one week we all try "opener x"; we all try it 3 or 4 times and report back with terrible results. The next week we all try "opener y": and we all report back with laughs and smiles. What an easy way to determine that "opener y" is …
/r/seduction22/04/14 06:26 PM
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Hey man thanks for the advice. Unfortunately the date never happened. She texted me an hour before and said she just got out of a relationship and wasn't ready to go out with someone else. She said she had a great time with me last night but she was baggage central and had too many issues and hopes that I'd understand. So yea, I wouldn't waste your time posting on here unless I really thought it was going down; But these things happen. Thank you again for the support, I really appreciate it!
/r/seduction20/04/14 11:49 PM
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I think I'd take this as an awesome learning experience! If you can put up with her "gaming", you are essentially passing her "tests."She may be testing you intentionally or not; I'm not suggesting she necessarily enjoys giving you the carrot on the string (maybe she does) but she wouldn't be treating you this way if she was needy or lonely. My best bet is that she has options and just enjoys flirting. If you want to get to the core of her actions, I'd joke around and call her a player/ high in …
/r/seduction08/03/14 08:21 PM
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You need to make her feel comfortable being at your place. I always take basic precautions with this: Give her the tour of your place when you walk in. Be sure to spend time showing her stuff in your room--When you bring her back to your room later, she will feel that much more comfortable in returning. Offer her something to drink/eat. Help yourself to something to drink/eat. I guess this just makes you look hospitable and relaxed, idk it seems to help. Suggest an activity/ turn on some music. …
/r/seduction12/02/14 10:49 PM
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Be as honest and to the point as possible: " lol Idk if you like me, but I think you're pretty cool so we should hang out if you're down"
/r/seduction29/01/14 02:05 AM
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I have two suggestions: Firstly, I know you said your intern job was lackluster, but you could also generally be an uninteresting guy. I say this because I had the same problem; awesome night game - terrible day game. I used to be AFC to the MAX, I worked hard to learn game, started going out, and had great results. Fast forward a year, I go to collage and have the shittiest time hitting on girls in my classes. I couldn't figure out why, I studied day game, I did the same techniques when I appro…
/r/seduction11/12/13 10:59 PM
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Ya good point, I used to go for the toughest sets on purpose (eg, HB sitting with three other hot friends and like 2 other good looking dudes) cause after an awkward interaction or two, the girl sitting alone on the train or the coffee shop seems like a piece of cake.
/r/seduction10/12/13 12:50 AM
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Ya, exactly... Be more confident? Oh I never thought of that before! I should be confident when talking to girls! If it was that easy we'd all be walking around with 10s and this subreddit wouldn't have any subscribers
/r/seduction09/12/13 12:26 AM
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That sounds like a SOLID night man! I've heard to take half a Viagra when you try to fuck on M. It's weird cause I can usually get my dick to work on it, but I will just never cum. Instead, my dick sort of peters out after a good half hour of fucking. But of course, each man to his own.
/r/seduction23/09/13 03:58 PM
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'I guess you could tell the main girl you need to flirt with the female fans as part of your job' I really like this suggestion, Thanks man
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