RageStreak Archive

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1	Q4W: Female sexuality: do you need to get off? Not at all. It takes me a long time to trust the other person enough to get that release. I almost never come from one night stands. I’m in an LTR now and often, I want sex for the companionship, intimacy, the feeling of a mans love and body, but I’m not fussed about finishing cos it’s such an effort for me every time. When it does happen, it’s massive but I don’t want it every time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/20 04:10 PM
2	Q4W: Female sexuality: do you need to get off? Woman here, don’t feel the need to cum all that often, perfectly happy with sex without cumming. I was with a guy once who was determined to make me cum every time, even when I wasn’t in the mood and that was much more annoying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/20 03:47 PM
1	Most women I know are not as funny as the men. Why do you think that happens? That’s what I said, I just used more words.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/20 12:20 PM
5	Hey guys share your thoughts about this perspective - Do you consider sex as merely a form of action or is it more than that? Can it be equated to activities like Dancing or Singing? Deceiving your partner by having sex outside your relationship is quite different from crossing the street. It’s fine if both partners agree they can see other people, but if they haven’t agreed then it’s a betrayal and it’s cheating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/20 10:37 AM
7	Hey guys share your thoughts about this perspective - Do you consider sex as merely a form of action or is it more than that? Can it be equated to activities like Dancing or Singing? If a man and woman haven’t agreed to an open relationship and he has sex with someone else and lies about it, that’s cheating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/20 09:22 AM
2	Most women I know are not as funny as the men. Why do you think that happens? You’re right, in order to observe mating choices in a scientific setting, those choices will ultimately have to be conveyed using spoken language. Great point. “I've never made such claim.” I know you didn’t. That’s the joke. You have yet to address my original claim and are instead arguing against a different claim of your own invention. I was highlighting the absurdity with my humor. Please cite a range of studies that show women don’t value humor and only value looks and I will reject those s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 08:19 PM
2	Most women I know are not as funny as the men. Why do you think that happens? In all three studies I quoted, women actively chose partners for their sense of humor more often then men chose partners for their sense of humor. These women didn’t just verbally testify that they like funny men. If three separate studies observing mating choices aren’t “good enough” for you and you have no evidence to the contrary, then you aren’t debating in good faith. I’m guessing crossing your arms like this is some attempt at an ego boost. “I know women claim sense of humour is one of the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 07:29 PM
2	Most women I know are not as funny as the men. Why do you think that happens? You don’t have to give anything but if you willingly enter into a tennis game at a tennis club, people will expect you hit the ball back. Right now I’m serving and you’re plucking the ball out of the air and putting it on the floor, saying “I could hit it back good but I don’t feel like it.” I never said women prioritise humor above all other qualities in a partner; I said women value humor in their male partners more highly than men value humor in their female partners. There is a difference. D…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 07:03 PM
3	Most women I know are not as funny as the men. Why do you think that happens? If you have no studies of your own, no anecdotal experience, and no personal interpretation to add, and you choose to reject the wide range of proof I’ve provided for no apparent reason, why did you chime in to this conversation in the first place? The point of this subreddit is to exchange ideas. Any ideas of your own besides “no,” would suffice. Or you could just say “hello I have nothing to add besides my own irrational skepticism,” and save us both some time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 03:38 PM
9	Most women I know are not as funny as the men. Why do you think that happens? This article from Scientific American aggregates a number of studies that show women choose funny men but men don't particularly choose funny women. "women sought a mate who could make them laugh twice as often as they offered to return the favor. Men, on the other hand, offered humor about a third more than they requested it." "The psychologists showed 200 people photographs of men and women, each paired with either a funny or a fairly straight autobiographical statement. Women chose the funnie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 10:44 AM
4	Most women I know are not as funny as the men. Why do you think that happens? What’s untrue? That men don’t particularly care if women are funny? That women value humor in a man? It’s true in my experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 01:41 AM
6	Most women I know are not as funny as the men. Why do you think that happens? Why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/20 01:32 AM
1	Do you think women's breasts are way more sexualized than they should be? Titillation (no pun intended) and shame are so closely tied, I think it's safe to say men in those cultures don't react to a naked breast the way men in the west would react to a naked breast. Because we consider breasts genitalia, we've created a forbidden aura around them which increases their titillating appeal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/20 10:12 PM
5	Do you think women's breasts are way more sexualized than they should be? What about tribes where women don’t cover their breasts? The men aren’t agog all day long. Implies that breast lust is learned behavior to some extent. Even in the west, titties were more in fashion a few decades ago, while a fat ass is in fashion today. So tastes can be learned and unlearned.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/20 09:16 PM
11	Most women I know are not as funny as the men. Why do you think that happens? Mate, men are constantly making jokes about their dicks. Almost every kids movie when I was growing up had at least one joke about a man getting kicked in the crotch. Imagine seeing a kids movie where a woman got punched in the boob. If you've ever been to a stand up open mic, over half the humor is men talking about masturbation and penis insecurity. Louis CK talks about his dick constantly. Maybe you don't notice because its relatable to you but men joke about their genitals all the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/20 10:45 PM
29	Most women I know are not as funny as the men. Why do you think that happens? A number of reasons: -Women value humor in a mate more highly than men value humor in a mate. You hear women say all the time they want someone who will make them laugh. You almost never hear a man say the same thing about a woman. So there's no incentive for women to present their sense of humor. -Because humor is an important mating strategy available to men who don't have other traditionally desirable qualities, it becomes a competitive sphere. Men compete amongst each other to be the funnies…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/20 10:02 PM
2	How true is the RedPill about female nature? Women's sexual value is much more strongly tied to youth, which is totally out of a person's control. RPers act like any woman over 26 is a wizened hag. Generally speaking, male bachelors of any age are more societally accepted than single women, especially older women, who are again viewed as undesirable crones. Women's character is judged based on how many sexual partners she has had. Generally speaking there are a lot more weird standards of purity and youth applied to women. Women have enter…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/20 09:31 PM
3	How true is the RedPill about female nature? Physical strength, an assumption of authority compared to equivalent women in the workplace, seeing themselves represented in movies, books, tv, sports, and not just as a token. Studies show that men’s medical concerns are taken more seriously; men with equivalent illness/injury to women are more likely to be classified as in need of urgent care, spend less time waiting in emergency rooms, and receive more painkillers. Women’s equivalent illnesses/injuries are more likely to be diagnosed as psyc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/20 05:43 PM
1	What non physical aspects do you value in men? Obviously, it's a personal decision at the end of the day and I don't particularly feel the need to change your mind. It's just a pet peeve of mine when people draw these lines in the sand based on political affiliation, as if half the population can be diagnosed based on one word. I don't see how society can progress when people draw these hard lines between "us" and "them." To me, it's the same as RPers saying AWALT. I'd have the same debate with a Tory saying they'd never date a liberal. That…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/20 06:26 PM
2	What non physical aspects do you value in men? Jonathan Haidt is very interesting on this topic. His research is on the moral roots of conservativism/liberalism. Liberals consider themselves the party of openness, fairness, and care. They incorrectly assume that conservatives therefore value the opposite: close-mindedness, injustice, and harm. In reality, conservatives do value care and openness, liberals just value those things slightly higher. Conservatives have additional values, in particular loyalty, authority, and sanctity, that libera…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/20 06:04 PM
2	What non physical aspects do you value in men? What a lovely straw man you have there. This political sports team attitude is naive, sorry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/20 05:15 PM
2	MRA's inappropriately invalidate the realities of female existence. Absolutely, there’s a fine line between acknowledging the problems we have as a society and identifying the causes and solutions to those problems, and indulging in resentment and victim hood. When you spend too much time on the latter, you lose sight of the fact that movements are made of individuals and individuals still need to try hard for themselves. I’m in here, encouraging RPers not to indulge in resentment but you’re right; I don’t think anyone is telling feminists the same thing. I touc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/20 03:54 PM
1	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? All that makes sense and I can see how the core philosophy is helpful for young men who need a boost in self-confidence and social skills. There’s plenty of decent advice for short term dating strategy. However, it’s mixed in with a lot of indulgent resentment of women; the community allows itself to shift responsibility for every negative social experience onto women and revels in that resentment; stoking it higher and higher. For those who have the emotional intelligence to sort through what’s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/20 01:32 PM
0	MRA's inappropriately invalidate the realities of female existence. Less sitting on a fence, more standing in an open field, wondering where this invisible fence is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/20 01:17 PM
2	MRA's inappropriately invalidate the realities of female existence. True, its a question of philosophical perspective. Modern feminism and many other modern social movements have too much focus on power and privilege: who’s got it, who doesn’t, how can I get it from the other guys. Power isn’t a virtue. Power won’t make you content. It won’t make you a better person. Take responsibility for your life. Take responsibility for yourself as an individual. Power also implies heavy responsibility, so start practicing, unless you just want to keep shifting power around…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/20 01:14 PM
1	MRA's inappropriately invalidate the realities of female existence. Exactly, even if the question could be answered definitively, which it can’t, the answer won’t improve your quality of life one ioata. You still need to get up and fix your shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/20 01:10 PM
1	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? Also what you described would is the ideal, but it’s not happening in TRP. People have decided they want to blame women for everything and seek out evidence which supports their conclusion. It’s backwards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/20 12:51 PM
16	MRA's inappropriately invalidate the realities of female existence. Both men and women and everyone on the planet face a huge range of challenges. The competition between men and women on who’s more oppressed by whom is childish nonsense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/20 10:49 AM
5	What professions do you find most attractive? A lot of the guys I work with in construction for events are really lean and strong, like how ants can weirdly carry way more than their body weight. I love this look; you know it’s from use and not out of vanity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/20 10:41 AM
1	Men are trash One of my gay friends said that because many gay men are in the closet during their youth, when they come out and start dating as themselves, they’re years behind in terms of emotional maturity. They missed out on the “baby-talk” phase of dating if you will; all the weird early mistakes you make ages 13-17 or so. I’ve also noticed many parents and especially fathers, even if they are okay with their son being gay, still feel that their LGBTetc children are in a different category that they don’t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/20 10:36 AM
1	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? What’s your hypothesis would you say. So far seems fairly unflattering to women. Ouchie.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/20 11:08 PM
1	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? So far, TRP's relationship with science is backwards. They start with the conclusion, then seek out evidence which could be interpreted to support their chosen opinion. I'm guessing you find these studies on internet forums and these forums are full of people who already agree with you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/20 08:06 PM
1	[Q4W]Have you ever been a side chick or on a guys Roster? Lol at you extrapolating from the collective rantings of angry male neckbeards with no life experience to half the worlds population.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/20 10:02 PM
1	The nature of the other gender Sounds like the same problem every philosophy goes through; the core material is worthwhile but as it gets watered down, translated, re-translated, and as communities build around it, people can't help themselves but start behaving badly. And the bad behavior is usually noisier than the good behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/20 08:43 PM
1	What does it mean to live a good life, as a woman? Do women really so dislike to generalize? I'd try to answer but I'd have to generalize.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/20 07:32 PM
1	What does it mean to live a good life, as a woman? She nailed it, everyone pack it in, threads done.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/20 07:29 PM
1	What do women think of men with big chests? Nope. Overall muscular physique is generally considered attractive but just chest size doesn't have the same effect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/20 07:25 PM
1	How do you define hypergamy? If you meet someone compatible to you, such that you want to build a whole life with them, it's rational to love them. With regard to wages, I gather from your comments that you believe women are attracted to men with lots of money, regardless of whether they love that person. For the sake of argument, do you think it's rational for women to be attracted to man's wages? Since pure love is irrational?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/20 07:06 PM
1	The nature of the other gender I can see how for young men who struggle with basic self-esteem, social skills, and emotional boundaries TRP offers an initial boost in those areas. Although the tone is abrasive, "putting the pussy on a pedestal" is a very common and unappealing mistake lonely people make, and TRP insists on drawing these basic emotional boundaries, which makes sense. The program falls off a cliff when it licenses young men pile censure on all women for their negative social experiences, rather than blaming the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/20 07:00 PM
1	How do you define hypergamy? Is love irrational by definition? You’ve implied that it’s rational to care about your partners wages more than caring about love.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/20 06:43 PM
5	How did the average female body used to look like in ancient times? The history of European art is littered with busty women and their rolls, lounging on a chaise looking out a window, and eating grapes or whatever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/20 10:51 PM
2	How did the average female body used to look like in ancient times? Not a ton of hygiene either, even for royals. The average person now has access to way more nutrition and medicine than an ancient King. Even a moderately old King, say 100-300 years ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/20 10:48 PM
1	How do you define hypergamy? So it doesn’t matter how much money he makes, as long as they’re in love. Sounds reasonable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/20 09:30 PM
1	How do you define hypergamy? Narrated so faithfully, you’ve got the answer memorised! Everything is perfectly simple. Cults are so comforting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/20 09:29 PM
2	The nature of the other gender They wield these studies and stats like magic wands. It’s a new religion “scientism.” My stats are truer than your stats! With the power of this study, I confirm my a priori conclusions!	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/20 10:24 AM
1	The nature of the other gender That’s interesting, did you end up supplementing TRP with other philosophies?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/20 08:06 AM
2	The nature of the other gender As far as I've seen on this sub, they either ignore counter examples or argue that those women are lying or that they do act according to this "female nature" unconsciously. In the end, many men on here suffer from such low self esteem that even positive signs from women must be interpreted as subterfuge. It's easier to believe the world is hopeless, than to risk getting your hopes up. That's why I keep coming back; in the end I do feel for these guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/20 12:24 AM
3	The nature of the other gender utilizing these trends to access these phenomenon at a personal level is an entirely different ballgame. This is a major problem with TRP's relationship to science. Yes it can be interesting to observe larger trends in social behavior based on gender, but that won't necessarily help your social skills when talking to individuals. As another user said, these trends aren't deterministic; they won't tell you everything about every individual you encounter and ultimately, most people engage with TRP…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/20 12:09 AM
3	The nature of the other gender I've been thinking more about this and want to adjust my original statement. Math can describe pieces of human nature, as can art and poetry. But all of these are just approaches. None are total. So I'd still disagree that male and female nature are math. They can be described in part by math, as they can be described in part by any number of approaches. To me, Jung's insights are more holistic; they speak directly to the soul, rather than measuring one tiny piece of a vast mystery. But here, we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/20 10:37 PM
3	The nature of the other gender Math can be used to model trends in populations by gender but that approach can never fully, conclusively define male or female nature. We might be working with different definitions of the word “nature.” For me, Carl Jungs ideas come closest to fully illuminating our deeper nature, including the particular psychological rites of passage faced by each gender. And his approach is poetic, not mathematical. I agree any observable trends aren’t deterministic but damn if people don’t apply them that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/20 10:08 PM
4	Doesn't the low participation of women on online dating apps actually prove that women care about personality more than they care about looks? When I think about it, I can’t even nail down in my head what a Chad is. Is it athletic and good looking? Because sometimes those people are still terribly awkward with women. Is it someone who gets laid a lot? Because sometimes those guys are losers in other aspects of their lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/20 09:37 PM
10	The nature of the other gender I think a general male and female nature exist but they are vastly over analysed in TRP with no room for nuance. And they claim to view these natures objectively when every conclusion is filtered through pessimism and a desire to hang all of society’s ills and their own personal problems on women. These natures are less like math, more like poetry. Fluid, nuanced, full of exceptions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/20 08:14 PM
20	Doesn't the low participation of women on online dating apps actually prove that women care about personality more than they care about looks? Sometimes I wonder if people in this subreddit assume anyone who shaves their neck and has a social life is an impossibly alpha Chad stallion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/20 01:28 PM
1	Women don't mind less successful men. They just don't want losers. Yikes she sounds like a nightmare. I agree with your original assertion that a “fixer upper” is not a good basis for a relationship. You shouldn’t have to ask your wife for receipts but you also shouldn’t have to pay for her body modification and education so she can become acceptable. When I was dating my first boyfriend, who was a bit of a mess, my dad told me “he seems like a good kid and he might grow into a fine man. But there’s a temptation to fix people and you should resist that temptati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/20 12:21 AM
2	Women don't mind less successful men. They just don't want losers. If she is a fixer upper requiring tens of thousands of dollars to change social class, yea that’s yucky. It sounds like you’re talking about a house, not a person. I wouldn’t want my partner to spend tons of money making me into someone else. I agree with you, such an arrangement is a bad basis for a relationship and I’m sure she played her part in it. What exactly is an “acceptable middle class woman?” Where did this money go?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 10:39 PM
2	How do you all not hate other people because of how we are judgmental towards each other? Maybe it’s about finding a balance somewhere in between. I’ve also been in the position of being a positive beacon for everyone and that gets exhausting.	/r/ExRedPill	29/11/20 10:35 PM
2	How do you all not hate other people because of how we are judgmental towards each other? I can tell she is motivated because we still talk a lot about emotions. She is generally less panicked than she was a few years ago. She helps me with my problems and I help her with her problems. I know her character quite well and she inspires me with her dedication and work ethic. But at some point, the balance was way off and she was expecting me to solve her problems for her. Now, she is more able to solve some of those problems on her own so we can enjoy one another’s company. I don’t know…	/r/ExRedPill	29/11/20 10:31 PM
2	How do you all not hate other people because of how we are judgmental towards each other? The fact is, everyone is fighting their own battles and they won’t be able to take on someone else’s battles. There are certain basic levels of emotional stability that you must be responsible for on your own. People want to help people who are already helping themselves. For example, I have a close friend who struggles with anxiety and depression and at one point she was calling me four or five times a week to dump her problems on me, which significantly added to my own emotional distress. I to…	/r/ExRedPill	29/11/20 09:48 PM
1	Women don't mind less successful men. They just don't want losers. Not sure about your first question but the second question is because for women, the vaginal surface is larger and more susceptible to secretions, where the penis is covered in skin with only a tiny urethral opening for bacteria and viruses to enter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 08:51 PM
2	Women don't mind less successful men. They just don't want losers. She may be a miserable piece of work for all I know but you talk about her like she was a broken down car you magnanimously rescued from the junk yard and lifted up into polite society with a new paint job, therefore she owes you eternal gratitude. Good idea swearing off fixer-uppers; this is a dreadful attitude to have towards a partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 08:45 PM
1	Do women see emotions as a weakness or is there a certain level of emotional expression that women perceive to be "weak"? Not wanting sex sometimes isn’t an insult. With my partner there are plenty of occasions when our arousal doesn’t sync up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 08:22 PM
2	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? Well that’s the weird thing about virtue; it should be pursued without regard for reward. I’ve run into this fundamental philosophical difference with other RPers and it’s why, ultimately, I can’t approve of this philosophy despite what advantages it may confer to young men who need help. We all have a hand on the steering wheel of the human race. We all have a personal responsibility to steer in the right direction, away from deception and cruelty, even if our say in the matter seems microscopi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 08:09 PM
2	Do women see emotions as a weakness or is there a certain level of emotional expression that women perceive to be "weak"? TOP answer, highly sensible, 10/10. Any decent person understands sadness and will want to help their partner. Consistent lack of social decency and emotional maturity is a turn-off, not negative emotion itself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 07:41 PM
1	Do women see emotions as a weakness or is there a certain level of emotional expression that women perceive to be "weak"? I’ve seen my fiancé cry and it makes me feel closer to him. I feel useful in the relationship if he trusts me enough to depend on me. When we share in a wider range of experiences, our bond grows stronger.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 07:37 PM
1	Do women see emotions as a weakness or is there a certain level of emotional expression that women perceive to be "weak"? Wow, that sounds tough. My dad came from a similar background and I’ve noticed that anger is the only acceptable “manly” emotion (he got these ideas from his own father). As a result, whenever my dad feels anything-sadness, inadequacy, fear, vulnerability-it all just turns into anger. I really feel for him; he has issues with depression that he never addressed because it wasn’t allowed for men of his generation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 07:35 PM
1	Do women see emotions as a weakness or is there a certain level of emotional expression that women perceive to be "weak"? I agree, I have absolutely no problem seeing my partner express sadness and vulnerability while maintaining healthy emotional boundaries. Whenever he’s been sad, I encourage him and try my best to help him and feel closer to him because we can share in the bad times as well as the good. A bad example would be my first boyfriend: we broke up when I moved across the country to university. He completely melted down and went to my best friends house in the middle of the night, pounded on her door an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 07:26 PM
3	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? I’m not sure what you mean by magic and no magic. The OP of this post had given over his self worth to internet strangers: “am I beta if I get in a relationship?” Who the fuck cares what internet strangers think! Don’t yield your emotional nexus to people you’ve never met! That includes both women and other men. Pursue what you want. If you want to be a totally isolated mountain man living in a one room shack eating berries, then go for it. Don’t wait for someone else to confirm your identity fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 07:12 PM
1	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? Knowing when to cut off empathy is healthy. And yes, you should choose carefully who to give your heart to. That’s just normal healthy boundaries and is essential for any human being. Many people unfortunately learn these boundaries after they are taken advantage of, myself included. Having no empathy is not normal. Empathy isn’t weakness. Having no boundaries is weakness and I agree every human should develop healthy boundaries in relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 07:00 PM
1	Young men are not being "radicalized" by random men on the internet; their views/opinions are much more so being forged by what women themselves directly say on social media and other public forums. The tone implies a ton of resentment towards women. Asking a woman to overlook this tone for subject is like asking a man to overlook extreme feminists who say "men are trash" because those feminists are right about other things. Neither one is a healthy philosophy, despite occasionally making a decent point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 01:53 AM
2	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? Which is the main reason why empathy and strength are binary in nature as a male Hard disagree. Most humans have empathy; the ability to understand what others are feeling. Otherwise society would crumble. A person with absolutely no empathy is a psychopath. Codes of honor and codes of conduct very frequently include helping people because it's the right thing to do. Helping people and doing the right thing aren't "female." That doesnt make sense. I agree with your last sentence. But it implies …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 01:35 AM
1	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? you must be capable of huge amounts of violence to be peaceful, if not you’re just harmless... Your own definition implies empathy. Such a person as you described is capable of causing harm but chooses not to. Why do they choose not to cause harm?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 01:26 AM
1	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? If you have too much weakness as a man. If you lack strength. Empathy is a positive quality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 01:23 AM
1	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? Weakness is the polar opposite of strength, not empathy. Empathy is the ability to understand the feelings of another. Weakness and empathy are not the same at all. I've heard the same notion in a Jordan Peterson lecture on Torah, regarding the true definition of a word often translated as "meek." The original word shouldn't translate as "weak." It's meaning is closer to: "you have weapons, know how to use them, and choose not to." It's got nothing to do with empathy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/20 01:18 AM
3	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? If you'd gone back far enough, you'll find I'm an ancient 31 years old, so my SMV is currently in free fall and my fiance of eight years will soon leave me unless I hit the gym. He's starting his own business and is broke, so I was planning on monkey branching soon anyways, as soon as I meet the right alpha Chad stallion with a HUGE salary. Just hypergamous girl things I guess :) AWALT after all. These men may be missing the basics but TRP ain't it. And yes they do need training in kindness and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 11:21 PM
5	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? The top comment has some decent advice on not being a dirtbag. The rest of the comments advise him to start counting calories and going to the gym to raise his SMV, to tweak his "dread game" (vomit), to maintain his frame, and don't forget, you're the prize king. Where did he get these awful ideas about "dread game" in the first place? It's absolutely terrible advice for maintaining a healthy LTR. No thanks to the whole thing. Any community dedicated to honing these manipulative tactics isn't wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 10:26 PM
3	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? MRP will solve just about every problem husbands have with a shitty wife. Like this guy? This thread is just so so sad. I hate to think of young men taking any of this on as good advice. Id rather stay single forever than be married to someone who fucks with my head like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 09:50 PM
4	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? Yea I suppose it was the phrasing that put me off. When I’ve had a healthy connection with potential partners, I never felt like I had to “play the game,” if that makes sense. To me that feeling is a good sign. They tasted okay! Just crumbled when you pick them up so I was covered in rice and tuna ☹️ Lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 09:40 PM
3	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? I didn’t downvote you :). I was trying to make onigiri for dinner but it went really poorly, so haven’t been online. Open communication is the bedrock of a balanced relationship. All these subterfuges set a bad precedent in a new relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 09:27 PM
2	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? Admittedly, my home life was very stable and as a child, I had a good social life and self worth, so I don’t understand what many young men of TRP have been through. Those who didn’t see stable relationships growing up or were indoctrinated with low self-worth would have a different view of the world. Men with low self esteem who struggle in relationships are often unfairly scorned and laughed at, when they really need help socialising and turning their self-esteem around. Also, online dating ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 09:24 PM
6	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? “A little” being a key phrase. Many young men, like the OP, don’t have life experience and are learning an exaggerated doom and gloom interpretation of relationships from unqualified internet strangers. Yes, men shouldn’t be a pushover in relationships but TRP comprises a ton of other reckless exaggerations that only serve to prejudice young men against half the population and coddle paranoia and self pity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 07:15 PM
4	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? Strength and empathy are not opposites and it’s entirely possible to possess both qualities at once. Yes, being a pushover and having no boundaries won’t lead to a balanced dating life but TRP is obsessed with doom and gloom extremes which aren’t reflected in real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 07:12 PM
6	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? Then yes, I’ve used a variety of characteristics and traits to evaluate partners but that supports my assertion that a binary “alpha” and “beta” definition of attraction is way too simplistic to accurately represent attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 06:48 PM
9	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? How do you define alpha vs beta? I’ve also noticed there is no concrete definition of these terms in TRP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 06:36 PM
8	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? I’m precisely saying that real life is way more nuanced and complicated than simplistic concepts like “alpha” and “beta.” In my experience TRP is obsessed by simple fictional projections: Chad is Gaston and he’s coming for your GF. “Female nature” can be defined and conquered with the right rules and techniques, so you too can become Gaston. It’s a naive and simplistic worldview.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 06:33 PM
8	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? TRP only represents a tiny portion of the population and you should not take their opinions as gospel. Go out and get your own life experience. Date people you admire and respect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 06:30 PM
4	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? This is terrible advice for building a mutually respectful LTR.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 06:28 PM
6	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? I’ve been in a number of relationships from totally casual to very serious with a wide range of men and never once evaluated whether he was “alpha” or “beta.” They were just men who were attractive to me for various reasons. RP men evaluate themselves and one another on this binary alpha/beta basis, but most people are totally unaware of this concept when choosing a partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 06:26 PM
2	Many people here talk about how well women have it, how men are judged by so many things, status, etc. but what can be done about it? What can you do if, for example, as a man you envy women for their power and options? Women here; many women envy men because they traditionally have more access to and respect in many workplaces. I don’t envy men because every individual has natural advantages and disadvantages and I’d rather emphasise the positive in my life instead of feeling sorry for myself for the negative. Also our modern obsession with power in interpersonal dynamics is so narrow minded. Power is not a virtue. There are many terrible people with sad lives who have power. Everyone has some power that other…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 06:15 PM
1	What locations and settings are average men allowed to approach women in person today, if at all? Not OP but no, there is no finite list of locations where women enjoy meeting strangers. Like, if I’m approached at a bus stop, I’ll be overjoyed but if the same person approached me in a kebab shop, I’d call the police? It depends entirely on my mood, my goals for the day, the other person, their approach, and tons of other undefinable factors. Its not at all location dependent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 05:55 PM
29	Do relationships automatically make a man a beta/betabuxx? Life is much more nuanced than “alpha” and “beta.” These concepts, as they are used in TRP, are fabricated by men who are attempting to impose order on sex/romance/dating, when there is no such order. Relationships, attraction, dating, sex are vast and fluid arenas. Men of TRP try to make hard rules and formulas for these endeavours, when life doesn’t work that way. Do you want a relationship? Then pursue one. Don’t let internet strangers tell you your value as a human. A real alpha pursues thei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 05:35 PM
2	What means SMV to you personally 6 is obviously a beta cuck and should hit the gym. Yellow is Chad AF but blue has lower N count than 5 does.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 04:43 PM
2	In your experience, what have been the differences between the men you've just slept with and the ones you wanted/had a relationship with? Was bb/af part of it or it was a completely different system not discussed in PPD? I slept with men casually when I was attracted to them/enjoyed their company but knew we didn’t have enough in common to date long term. With LTRs I had the same level of initial attraction plus more admiration for their worldview such that I could see spending more time with them/dedicating more effort to maintaining a relationship with them. AF/BB never factored into it. I never knew about these concepts until looking into TRP and they don’t track with my dating experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 04:38 PM
5	[Q4W]Have you ever been a side chick or on a guys Roster? Do you mean have I been the other woman when a guy was in a committed relationship? Not to my knowledge and I wouldn’t be okay with that arrangement at all. If you mean have I been one of many girls a guy was sleeping with casually, I actually don’t think I have. I was not looking for a serious commitment at the time and was also dating casually so I wouldn’t have cared if they were seeing other people. But I’d usually see one person at a time and so would they even if we moved on after a short …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 04:19 PM
10	[Q4W]Have you ever been a side chick or on a guys Roster? Almost every woman on this thread said they wouldn’t want to be the side chick and some said they wouldn’t mind as long as communication was open between everyone. So no, women are not generally okay with being the side chick. Yes women don’t generally like being part of deception and treated as second class in a relationship. Why is that some big revelation?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 04:13 PM
4	[Q4W]Have you ever been a side chick or on a guys Roster? Sexual satisfaction is dependent on trust and open communication. Deception and cruelty kill the arousal for many people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 04:12 PM
3	What means SMV to you personally Agreed. To me these questions are like asking “is the number 5 yellow or blue?” I simply can’t answer because the question doesn’t compute with my worldview.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 04:06 PM
2	What means SMV to you personally I agree, often times on this subreddit, I find men are asking the wrong question and get frustrated when they don’t get clear answers. I was experimenting with this problem earlier and agree that I simply can’t fully separate physical and emotional attraction. For example, Henry Cavill is objectively more physically handsome than Adam Driver. But I am more physically and emotionally attracted to Adam Driver because he possesses many qualities I find appealing, like strong work ethic, humility, a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 03:59 PM
3	What means SMV to you personally Not the OP but I can’t usually separate physical attraction from personality. For example, Henry Cavill would be a 10 to many people but I don’t know anything about him so just looking at him doesn’t arouse me. Adam Driver is a celebrity crush of mine and I would consider him a 10 because he is physically attractive but also demonstrates appealing qualities like dedication, humility, dry humor, creativity, vulnerability, etc. Learning of these qualities made me physically attracted to him. For m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 02:21 PM
1	What means SMV to you personally I agree Paul Newman would be a 10 and it’s because he is physically attractive but also demonstrated respectable qualities like loyalty to his family, business acumen outside of acting, and general charm. I can’t usually separate physical attraction from personality, so purely physical rating scales don’t work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/20 02:13 PM
2	Still trying to leave the incel community because it's bad for my social anxiety for some reason, and finding it hard It’s fair to leave behind any community focused on brow-beating and misery. There’s emotional support and then there’s savouring and perpetuating negativity, like it’s a comfort blanket. I think you’re heading in the right direction.	/r/ExRedPill	27/11/20 07:56 PM
1	Do most women have an inbuilt instinct that prevents them from being attracted to someone without a connection? Whats the difference between an emotional connection and enjoying someone's company and feeling safe around them? Seems like the same thing to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/20 06:19 PM
1	Do most women have an inbuilt instinct that prevents them from being attracted to someone without a connection? I don't have specific evidence for it, but an inbuilt instinct towards emotional connection with a partner does make sense for women. Pregnant women and women with young children are physically vulnerable and would need to ascertain emotional commitment from men in order to feel safe having sex. Even in today's world, which isn't as physically threatening as the ancient world, the stakes are higher for women engaging in casual sex. Responsibility for accidental pregnancies falls more often on wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/20 06:15 PM
1	Penis-size-manifesto: bigger is better up until the point of inconvenience? Maybe it’s similar to titty/ass size on women. Yes it’d be nice if the waist was tiny and the ass and titties big and perfect. But you wouldn’t be disappointed by an otherwise excellent lover just because her ass could be bouncier. You wouldn’t get out your protractor and reject all but the most snatched fitness model, although technically such a figure would be “ideal.” I think men, particularly on this subreddit, are hoping for hard mathematical breakdowns of the most appealing man. When there…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/20 02:50 PM
7	Question for Men: What about having a partner whose company you enjoy? Some RP men have had genuinely terrible home lives or relationships with women and carry those memories but many many young men on TRP don’t have relationship experience and are learning bitterness and misogyny from one another. I can’t see how this will help young men who already struggle socially to find happiness in life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/20 05:43 PM
1	It is not surprising or alarming that we see a lot of radicalization Why imagine them as right-wingers? If they identify with liberal politics but are blinded by privilege or racism, that's a serious issue in left-wing circles that should be addressed, not just rebranded as "the other side's" problem.	/r/ExRedPill	22/11/20 11:22 PM
1	Q4ALL: PPD people who grew up in very conservative environments, do you feel it affected your relationship experiences or sexuality in any notable way? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/assertive assertive (comparative more assertive, superlative most assertive) Boldly self-assured; confident without being aggressive. Assertive wasn't created as an alternative to aggressive. The word seems to have originated in the mid-1500s from the Latin assertus, meaning to defend. Everyone, men and women, needs to be assertive sometimes to get through life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/20 08:08 PM
2	I left r/mgtow recently I'd recommend /r/purplepilldebate for a debate subreddit. The topics posted there are really interesting.	/r/ExRedPill	22/11/20 01:33 PM
2	I left r/mgtow recently I recommend it a lot on this sub but take a look at Sam Harris's Waking Up app. Its a paid subscription but he makes a free version available to anyone who asks, which I did. The app is an excellent tool for practicing meditation. It's divided into lectures on the nature of mind and happiness, ranging from 3 minutes long to two hours long. There's also a practice section with a wide range of guided meditations. I did his 28 introductory course, formally meditating 10 minutes a day. I learned lot…	/r/ExRedPill	22/11/20 01:30 PM
44	Stopped using 4chan a month ago but still very racist and sexist, how do I stop this and become a decent person? If you’ve been browsing for years, it will take longer than a month to reprogram your brain. Your standards for social conduct have shifted away from what is generally socially acceptable. I’m glad to hear you want to change but be patient. Try to expose yourself to a wide range of viewpoints and slowly overtime, you’ll see for yourself that 4chan doesn’t know everything. They’re trying to shock and amuse each other more than they’re trying to tell the truth about society. It’s hard in these tim…	/r/ExRedPill	22/11/20 12:44 PM
1	How do I stop this way of thinking? Have I been brainwashed? I named a couple that have worked for me. Look up the Waking Up app. It’s a meditation app with some very interesting lectures. And it has short guided meditations, so there’s a practical component. Very good advice on strengthening your mind and managing negative emotion. Jordan Peterson on Pinocchio. This lecture is fascinating, lots of good guidelines for life: https://youtu.be/EN2lyN7rM4E Alan Watts has some interesting perspectives. I like to put on one of his lectures and let it wash over …	/r/ExRedPill	21/11/20 11:45 PM
1	Q4ALL: PPD people who grew up in very conservative environments, do you feel it affected your relationship experiences or sexuality in any notable way? People don’t generally enjoy being treated like they’re made of glass. We like to get challenged on our views in an engaging way, or called on our shit occasionally. Thats healthy and appealing. But with good intentions. If you intend to tear us down with asshole behavior to get power over the relationship, that’s exhausting and pointless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/20 06:54 PM
20	Q4ALL: PPD people who grew up in very conservative environments, do you feel it affected your relationship experiences or sexuality in any notable way? I think a lot of RP users struggle socially and when they see someone confident and assertive get success with women, they assume that person is a mean aggressive alpha bad boy. When really they’re just normal and kind of assertive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/20 03:48 PM
2	Do redpill cult leaders and pua coaches actually believe what they say or it's all about scamming inexperience naive gullible men? Personally, I think their good advice is mixed up with too much self-flaggellation, abuse, delusion, fear-mongering, posturing, and manipulation to be worth it. I’d recommend Alan Watts, Joseph Campbell, Carl Jung, or Jordan Peterson for self improvement. Those are ones that have worked for me.	/r/ExRedPill	20/11/20 01:50 PM
3	Do redpill cult leaders and pua coaches actually believe what they say or it's all about scamming inexperience naive gullible men? Take absolutely everything they say with a grain of salt. These YouTubers and Reddit posters are not qualified philosophers, you don’t know what their personal lives are like, you don’t know their intentions. Anyone can put a video on youtube, that doesn’t mean it’s good advice. Test everything they say for yourself. Take nothing as gospel. This is true for any personal philosophy. The Buddha said “do not believe in anything simply because you heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because …	/r/ExRedPill	20/11/20 11:31 AM
2	Do redpill cult leaders and pua coaches actually believe what they say or it's all about scamming inexperience naive gullible men? That’s such an interesting dynamic. The real advice of become a better person and build your confidence from the inside doesn’t have much razzle dazzle. People get bored of hearing it, even though it’s sound. And it’s difficult; it doesn’t promise any quick payoff. Hence this new, flashier, more aggressive philosophy.	/r/ExRedPill	20/11/20 11:26 AM
0	How do I stop this way of thinking? Have I been brainwashed? Why isn’t confirmation bias a valid explanation of TRP fear of female infidelity?	/r/ExRedPill	20/11/20 11:21 AM
4	How do I stop this way of thinking? Have I been brainwashed? It’s confirmation bias. It’s internet echo chamber. On another message board somewhere, women are sharing story after story of male violence and infidelity and coming to hate all men. People do it with their preferred political party. Get off the internet and look around. Is every man getting humiliated and cucked? Of course not. TRP needs to keep you scared so you won’t leave.	/r/ExRedPill	20/11/20 10:41 AM
7	How do I stop this way of thinking? Have I been brainwashed? “I remember this one YouTuber saying that If I leave or stop, I would feel the wrath of harsh female nature.” This is exactly how cults operate. They prey on vulnerable people, in this case young men who struggle socially, they build you up at first but then they start tearing you down. “We made you something, we gave you the solution to your suffering, and we can take that all away and make you suffer even more.” Walk away. There’s no stormcloud of female wrath that will rain down upon you as s…	/r/ExRedPill	20/11/20 10:36 AM
2	How is your response to redpiller who say a women is unloveable after she’s hit (THE WALL)?,and that a women’s only worth something until she hits (THE WALL)? This is what’s so frustrating about TRP. They’re scrabbling about making theories and inventing vocab to make themselves appealing. But they completely miss out on the most appealing qualities a person can have: inspiration, generosity, hospitality, etc. If you really nurture these qualities you don’t need SMV or an HB8 to validate you. Become a person of QUALITY and it won’t matter how old you are or if you’re a bit awkward or broke.	/r/ExRedPill	20/11/20 10:26 AM
7	How is your response to redpiller who say a women is unloveable after she’s hit (THE WALL)?,and that a women’s only worth something until she hits (THE WALL)? How have billions of people throughout history and the globe remained happily married after their 30s?	/r/ExRedPill	19/11/20 10:02 PM
2	How to not be weird I totally agree with the previous poster and I know it’s weird advice that sounds counterintuitive at first. Basically TRP encourages users to view women as a video game level to be unlocked to get what you want (usually sex). Any person with self-worth, looking for genuine connection and not just a man with a big salary or a quick fuck, will smell this attitude from a mile away. They can tell you aren’t seeing them as a person, connecting with them just for the sake of enjoying someone’s compan…	/r/ExRedPill	19/11/20 02:59 PM
1	Hypergamy and what that entails I didn’t feel like I had my life together until my late 20s and I still feel like there’s more work to be done. Your current material status is normal for your age. Have you heard the expression, “if you worry, you suffer twice”? It means if you worry about being rejected for this reason or that reason before anyone has actually rejected you, you’re causing yourself unnecessary suffering, when this hypothetical rejection hasn’t even happened yet. People are mysterious and surprising so, contrary…	/r/ExRedPill	19/11/20 02:47 PM
3	What was the thing that was easiest to recognize as BS when you left TRP If alpha comprises confidence, competence, assertiveness, fairness etc, a person can have varying levels of those qualities. It’s not only YES or NO as to whether someone possesses those attributes.	/r/ExRedPill	19/11/20 01:39 PM
5	1 question to completely kill the the red pill mindset That’s why they’re so obsessed with stats like age, N count, salary, attractiveness ratings. These are all an attempt to impose mathematical order on something completely ethereal. Attraction can’t be broken down into a formula.	/r/ExRedPill	19/11/20 12:26 PM
4	Anyone else’s marriage ruined by their spouse being red pilled? OP: I had an affair, never apologized, started laying on psychological punishment when I sensed her pulling away, and somehow that hasn’t worked? Should I punish her more? RP: yes punish her more you pathetic cuck. Oh and start lifting. That will fix everything. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄x1000. These are not the folks to get advice from.	/r/ExRedPill	19/11/20 12:23 PM
1	Anyone else’s marriage ruined by their spouse being red pilled? RPers love jargon. It makes their philosophy seem “official” and exclusive, as opposed to what it is: antisocial jerks with no integrity leading young men with low self worth even further away from the supportive relationships they need and crave.	/r/ExRedPill	19/11/20 12:19 PM
1	Q4Men: Are you satisfied/content with your nonsexual interactions with women? :-)	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/20 12:05 AM
5	Q4Men: Are you satisfied/content with your nonsexual interactions with women? Boys, even this conversation is warming my cockles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/20 09:46 PM
3	Anyone else’s marriage ruined by their spouse being red pilled? Yup this subreddit is specifically for people who have encountered the red pill, as in the manosphere philosophy, so people won’t assume you’re talking about the matrix. TRP manosphere philosophy is entirely its own beast at this point.	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 03:13 PM
4	Anyone else’s marriage ruined by their spouse being red pilled? Wow the OP of this post is an absolute dirtbag. The top comment in the thread has some surprisingly decent advice about not being a fucking tool, but sadly the rest of the comments are pretty grim.	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 01:31 PM
2	Anyone else’s marriage ruined by their spouse being red pilled? You mean like the original meaning of the phrase from the Matrix?	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 01:27 PM
6	Anyone else’s marriage ruined by their spouse being red pilled? It’s probably best he doesn’t know about TRP. These attitudes didn’t come from nowhere but they are amplified by internet communities where everyone can gather and share terrible stories about female infidelity to justify their rage, and whip each other up into a frenzy about who’s more masculine, emperors new clothes style.	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 01:24 PM
5	Anyone else’s marriage ruined by their spouse being red pilled? From anecdotal observation it’s possible that these attitudes, latent before, can rear their heads once men get married and/or have children. Suddenly their lives belong to their wife and children in a way they didn’t before. That new domesticity can trigger anxieties about masculine status and independence.	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 01:21 PM
1	Idiot on trp talks about “women’s desire to be controlled” this guy sounds like he took a time machine from the era before women had the right to vote to 2020 and he’s spewing his old fashion straight-out-of the early 20th century mysoginistic worldview I dont want to say too much more because I genuinely dont want to ruin your day or anything like that. I told my fiance about our conversation and what I said about Jason Mamoa and showed him a picture of Jason Mamoa and he said "He's on Game of Thrones." He didn't seem very interested in the conversation and I asked if his soul was crushed and he laughed and said no went back to watching the cricket. "I genuinely don't believe you." That's fine but that's your choice to not believe me. The idea…	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 10:51 AM
1	they are right I believe this is a list of possible ways to improve self-worth, not a list of ways to make women like you.	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 02:18 AM
1	Idiot on trp talks about “women’s desire to be controlled” this guy sounds like he took a time machine from the era before women had the right to vote to 2020 and he’s spewing his old fashion straight-out-of the early 20th century mysoginistic worldview Yes I am in therapy, yes I am working on it, no I don't think it matters and I'm not optimistic. :) HAH, I see you've played this game before! "The figure that says women only find 10-15% of the general population of men attractive was from data/studies done by the founder of OKCupid." This data set is firstly, highly unscientific and should be viewed as an amusing thought experiment only. It also showed that while men were more generous with their attractiveness ratings, they still only pursued…	/r/ExRedPill	17/11/20 02:07 AM
11	Why do redpillers think people who don't talk and act like them can't get laid? RP users seem to generally struggle socially and romantically, which I do sympathise with. However, to cope with this uncertainty, they promise one another that social interaction can be perfectly explained and conquered with the right rules and formulas. Once you adopt these formulas, you will never suffer again. My theory is that it’s a fear of the unknown. They ignore nuance and refuse to accept that everyone is different and social interaction can’t be described mathematically. These hard la…	/r/ExRedPill	16/11/20 11:16 AM
1	Idiot on trp talks about “women’s desire to be controlled” this guy sounds like he took a time machine from the era before women had the right to vote to 2020 and he’s spewing his old fashion straight-out-of the early 20th century mysoginistic worldview The numbers you’ve cited don’t add up; it’s not the case that only 3% of high school quarterbacks date in high school and the other 97% get cheated on or stay single. It’s also not the case that after high school, only 5-10% of men end up dating. Those numbers are overly pessimistic and don’t reflect reality. What’s so tricky about RP is that there is some truth to it; yes historically women are the ones to select mates. This dates back to caveman times. It’s also the case that historically, the…	/r/ExRedPill	16/11/20 11:03 AM
1	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill This article is referencing the same study we were discussing above. It’s still a question of perspective and you’ve chosen to view the results of this study through the most apocalyptic lens. There will always be someone more muscular, wealthier, more intelligent, more confident than you. If you’ve built a strong relationship with someone you trust and respect, it’ll be fine. I’ve been with my fiancé for 8 years. Sometimes I meet attractive men. Sometimes I meet very attractive men. Sometimes I…	/r/ExRedPill	16/11/20 10:21 AM
2	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill You've posted this comment all over this thread, including in response to me three times. I have no where confirmed that women are carnally attracted to alpha bad boys. I've been trying quite hard to convince you that your ideas about this topic are exaggerated. But you seem determined to believe the worst about yourself and humanity. When the study we were discussing above didnt actually support your beliefs, you now want to switch to something else. I've looked up Dr. Haselton and the first ar…	/r/ExRedPill	16/11/20 12:14 AM
1	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill It's more like saying "I used to bang my head against the wall every weekend, but now I eat healthy and do yoga."	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 11:57 PM
1	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill According to the abstract at least, the linked study does not conclude that women like bad boys over nice guys. It concludes that women who are near ovulation demonstrate shifts in behavior and desire, and provides support for the good gene hypothesis. Women who perceive their partners as low in "good genes" appear to become more interested in flirtation with other men as they approach ovulation. No where does it say that the "good gene" hypothesis includes shitty bad boy behavior like negging a…	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 07:35 PM
1	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill So are these spouses bad boys or not? It sounds like they are fine people who have tattoos. So why use them as an example of women falling for bad boys, when they don’t meet your own definition of bad boys? I still don’t understand what a bad boy really is. People aren’t that simple. It’s not possible to divide the population into two camps: bad boys and nice guys. Most people, men or women, stop engaging in risk taking behavior as they get older. They stop playing extreme sports, drinking as mu…	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 05:40 PM
3	After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept this You don’t work at your life for credit from other people: you work because the only other option is giving up. You work because your work will improve your inner self, improving yourself will improve your family, improving your family will improve your community, improving your community will improve your city, the world. That is the only reward worth chasing. And it’s more than enough. And it will happen so slowly that you won’t notice. And the people around you won’t notice. But that doesn’t m…	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 05:28 PM
1	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill I know men who love tattoos on women. There’s whole subreddits for sexy tattooed women. Most of my friends, men and women, have tattoos so I don’t see it as a “bad boy” thing. They’re very common these days. You didn’t answer my question. I haven’t promoted anything, I want to know if the women you know are married to mean men?	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 05:16 PM
1	After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept this Yup. What else is there but trying again? What do you want to hear?	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 05:04 PM
1	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill The aggressive, mean, negging parts of that definition are negative but the other parts don’t sound so bad. The two women you know, are their spouses really mean?	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 04:57 PM
10	After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept this It’s hard and it sucks and you will fail many times. But every day the choice is yours. Blaming women, blaming feminists, blaming alphas, blaming society, blaming your parents, blaming Redditors, while it might be true in some form is only a distraction. It will take effort every day to move forward. If you make a ton of effort and then stop making effort, your life will start to slip and you’ll end up back in the hole. It’s true for everyone on the planet. It’s fucking hard and exhausting and y…	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 02:36 PM
11	After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept this Is it an attack or is it telling you the truth and that truth is hard to hear? You’re fixated on a girl who is no good and that’s a waste of time. You are not a helpless victim, you have agency and while it might be hard, you have a choice every day to try and move on or to fixate and feel sorry for yourself. No one is saying you have to be perfect today but people on here are giving some decent advice. The choice is yours, not your dads, not your exes, not some random Redditor’s. It’s your life…	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 02:16 PM
10	After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept this Is “it” sex in this case? By “get nothing” do you mean sex, affection, respect, all of the above? If she has messed up standards for relationships, it’s not worth wondering why your efforts didn’t get the results you wanted. It’s like playing chess with a cat who keeps knocking the pieces off the board and wondering your chess strategies didn’t work. She’s playing a different game. Is her game the game you want to play?	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 02:06 PM
3	After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept this If you fixate on every hypocrite you meet, you’re going to spend a lot of life minutes banging your head against the wall. It sounds like she has some unhealthy patterns. What does this have to do with your current dating life? What does it help to fixate on her mistakes? There are tons of mentally unhealthy people out there and you’ve got to learn to let them pass by. It’s a waste of life minutes to fixate on them.	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 01:57 PM
12	After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept this She may be happy or she may not. Looking at one aspect of someone’s life doesn’t tell the whole story.	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 01:51 PM
10	After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept this How did they win? What’s your definition of “winning”? And I think my point still stands, she had a bad family life and is repeating the same patterns. Just because she’s getting laid while doing so doesn’t mean she’s better off than you are.	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 01:50 PM
7	After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept this You have a point, it would be better to build contentment in yourself regardless of comparison to other people. I wanted to illustrate that it’s easy to look at one aspect of someone’s life and imagine that they have everything they want. When really, that’s very rarely the case.	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 01:47 PM
42	After we broke up my ex was able to go on and have multiple flings while I have been struggling and I don't think I can accept this It’s easier for women to get laid but that doesn’t mean she is happy, loved, appreciated, supported, or mentally healthy. She’s still a shitty person. What is she building towards in her life? If you’re going to compare yourself to someone else, choose someone you actually admire, who inspires you.	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 01:24 PM
6	Idiot on trp talks about “women’s desire to be controlled” this guy sounds like he took a time machine from the era before women had the right to vote to 2020 and he’s spewing his old fashion straight-out-of the early 20th century mysoginistic worldview If you’ve had negative experiences and someone comes along and says they understand those experiences and they have the secret to never experiencing it again, that’s a really appealing offer and I can see why it would be hard to break away. My problem with it is that it might work to get a few dates but it won’t work for long term happiness. It feeds off people’s negative experiences and focuses on the worst parts of humanity; manipulation, envy, greed, insecurity. While those aspects do exist i…	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 10:44 AM
11	Men who want independent women At work 😛	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/20 12:46 AM
6	Men who want independent women So does mine. He probably does a bit more than me so I have to be careful to keep up with him. Housework isn’t fun but it’s not some horrific punishment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/20 12:44 AM
2	Idiot on trp talks about “women’s desire to be controlled” this guy sounds like he took a time machine from the era before women had the right to vote to 2020 and he’s spewing his old fashion straight-out-of the early 20th century mysoginistic worldview Are you referring to getting cheated on?	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 12:31 AM
8	Idiot on trp talks about “women’s desire to be controlled” this guy sounds like he took a time machine from the era before women had the right to vote to 2020 and he’s spewing his old fashion straight-out-of the early 20th century mysoginistic worldview Hmm that’s interesting. Where does the fear come from? Personal experience, word of mouth, angry YouTube videos?	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 12:30 AM
2	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill Well what would you say to men who watch porn about having sex with their step sister or step mom? What does that reflect? Something serious or a weird fantasy? I genuinely don’t know the answer, lol.	/r/ExRedPill	15/11/20 12:28 AM
31	Idiot on trp talks about “women’s desire to be controlled” this guy sounds like he took a time machine from the era before women had the right to vote to 2020 and he’s spewing his old fashion straight-out-of the early 20th century mysoginistic worldview "If you are not the one doing it, someone else is." Amazing how this community so consistently feeds off the paranoid fear of an imaginary alpha male, who is just out of sight fucking all the women you want to fuck. It's a very vivid psychological projection of insecurity. So every woman in the world is owned by an alpha male? Yikes, what a yucky image.	/r/ExRedPill	14/11/20 09:58 PM
1	How do you expect women to prioritize relationships when guys in their age range aren’t thinking about stability? Are you referring exclusively to financial stability? Traditionally, men provided financially while women took care of the family and household. Today there are plenty of parnterships where the woman is more career driven so the husband takes on a larger portion of the familial and household duties. If this arrangement works for both parties, I don't see why that's a bad thing. People can provide each other with more than just money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/20 09:53 PM
2	How do you expect women to prioritize relationships when guys in their age range aren’t thinking about stability? I do see your point. It sounds like they aren't compatible because they have different ambitions for their lives, which is fine. But the OP seems weirdly focused on him as a financial resource, rather than as a person. Is this an FDS thing? It's one thing to leave someone because they don't have ambition. It's another thing to leave someone because their long term profit projections don't meet your minimum requirement. Weirdly cold. He's not a retirement fund, he's a person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/20 09:44 PM
5	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill Also fantasy doesn’t always reflect what people want in their real life. There are tons of scenarios in porn that people find titillating to watch, but would be completely repulsive and weird in reality.	/r/ExRedPill	14/11/20 07:49 PM
3	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill OP can I ask, what is your definition of a bad boy?	/r/ExRedPill	14/11/20 07:21 PM
4	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill The first guy I was crazy about was my height and had a glass eye. He was so sexy because of the connection we had. Just something in his attitude was really intriguing and we had great conversation. Funny how attraction works. It depends entirely on the individual.	/r/ExRedPill	14/11/20 07:16 PM
23	I still have the same insecurities that led me to redpill Woman here, I have called many guys “cute” who I was sexually attracted to or in a relationship with. It’s a gentler word than handsome or sexy so sometimes it feels less awkward to use. My use of the word at the time reflected my own awkwardness/shyness more than it reflected their level of manliness. The RP theory behind this word is vastly overstated. There are some truths in RP theory but ultimately, you get to choose through what lens you view the world. RP provides a lens based on dominanc…	/r/ExRedPill	14/11/20 06:10 PM
8	How do you expect women to prioritize relationships when guys in their age range aren’t thinking about stability? What arrangement? It’s just helping each other when the other needs help. He’s helped me when I was overworked or broke. Not just with money but with emotional support and taking care of more household stuff. We’ve swapped roles many times. Not really a concrete thing that we could list out on paper.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/20 05:30 PM
20	How do you expect women to prioritize relationships when guys in their age range aren’t thinking about stability? Yea it’s a confusing question. My fiancé is starting his own business and quite broke at the moment but I believe in him and support him through this transition. At some point, I’ll probably hit a rough patch and he’ll pick up the slack. I love him as a person, not as a list of superficial signifiers like degree and salary. If you don’t respect a persons life plan/ambitions then you aren’t compatible in a relationship and that’s fine too. It’s not a mathematical formula.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/20 02:45 PM
0	I have taken a dive in the red pil because of the way feminism is presenting itself lately. I've found that it's turning me bitter. But I don't necessarily think their points are all wrong. Here for a second opinion on it That’s great if it works for you, it’s just not for me. I prefer places like /r/politicalcompassmemes or /r/purplepilldebate where you see a wide range of views, including views I find abhorrent. I don’t want those people banned, I want to engage with them and see what they’re saying. Strength comes from facing challenges, so a place that bans whole communities who might possibly say something they don’t like is not for me. Those aren’t the methods of the strong and empowered.	/r/ExRedPill	13/11/20 06:10 PM
-3	I have taken a dive in the red pil because of the way feminism is presenting itself lately. I've found that it's turning me bitter. But I don't necessarily think their points are all wrong. Here for a second opinion on it Witches vs patriarchy is anything but calm, and this is coming from a woman interested in witchcraft. I’m auto-banned from that sub because I also post on /r/politicalcompassmemes. I’ve never posted or commented on WvsP before being banned.	/r/ExRedPill	13/11/20 02:48 PM
9	I have taken a dive in the red pil because of the way feminism is presenting itself lately. I've found that it's turning me bitter. But I don't necessarily think their points are all wrong. Here for a second opinion on it Red pill would be the third reaction as feminism is a response to traditional patriarchal societal structures. Really, culture swings back and forth in an eternal dialectic so playing “who started it” isn’t ever going to be accurate or useful. And it’s not a strong argument to say that because one movement has started to become hateful, we can make excuses for a second, also hateful movement.	/r/ExRedPill	13/11/20 02:45 PM
1	If older man go for younger women because they aren’t attracted to women their age, what do they do when that woman gets older? Whoa that makes sense. Attraction is so ephemeral, the first guy I was crazy for was my height and had a glass eye. He was so cool and attractive to me. You never know what’s going to do it; it depends on the person. I do feel for some of these guys who struggle socially and feel humiliated and start chasing status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/20 10:54 PM
1	If older man go for younger women because they aren’t attracted to women their age, what do they do when that woman gets older? I’ve never online dated so I don’t get it. I met the people I liked at a bar or travelling or at college. We barely had Facebook. If you “chase a group” irl it’s a bit much. Where are is this chasing happening? Tinder?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/20 10:17 PM
1	If older man go for younger women because they aren’t attracted to women their age, what do they do when that woman gets older? “Chasing a group” is such a wild way to describe dating. Everything is a formula with TRP, there’s no nuance to it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/20 08:05 PM
2	If older man go for younger women because they aren’t attracted to women their age, what do they do when that woman gets older? Honestly, it’s mind numbing sometimes, trying to get these red pillers to understand there are no formulas for attraction. There might be general trends but its not a video game with one set path.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/20 07:57 PM
1	What would end a relationship? The thing that bothers me about TRP is that all it’s strategies are focused on “winning” mind games against this type of women and then TRP men are indignant when only dramatic woman will play their crappy games. Girls with no appetite for drama will smell head games a mile away and steer clear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/20 12:14 PM
68	If older man go for younger women because they aren’t attracted to women their age, what do they do when that woman gets older? TRP is determined to reduce romance to hard and fast “laws.” Ascribing value to an entire person is impossible, so age gives at least one hard value they can cling to when coming up with formulas for human interaction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/20 07:30 AM
1	What would end a relationship? I left my first LTR because I moved away for college and we weren’t compatible enough to try for long distance. He was a lovely guy but emotionally unstable at the time. Left my second LTR because we had incompatible life ambitions. He was raised to be a doctor and will never have another job. I now work in the arts and wanted more adventure. I did leave a casual relationship for shitty fuckboy behavior: playing me hot and cold, flirting with other girls in front of me, acting very rude and cold…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/20 07:21 PM
31	Q4W: Being as specific as you possibly can, what sort of strategies to get sex, OR a relationship, barring anything actually illegal, do you consider to be immoral or unethical? A form of lying but faking affection for someone to get sex, when that person values emotional connection highly and thus wouldn’t be down for sex without it. It’s despicable to make someone think you care for them when you just want sex from them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/20 06:51 PM
2	EVERYONE hits the wall at 30+. Men this age have unbelievable amounts of baggage which causes them to hit the wall so much harder than they even realize. “The wall is a mindset. Did you let your 20s defeat you or did you learn from your mistakes and grow? Are you willing to open up to the right person or will you ooze your failures on to everyone you meet consciously or subconsciously?” I think this is the key to everything. There is no magic, universal number after which your life is over. Some people let life get the best of them and turn bitter, blaming everyone around them for their failures. This can happen at any age for any gender. And ref…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/20 06:47 PM
16	Who among us has "settled?" Sensible answer. Another way of putting it is something my dad told me that scared me at first but actually makes a lot of sense: at some point love is a choice. You won’t always feel those crazy emotional spikes like when you’re dating, but you decide that you’ve found your person and you’re not going to throw it away. I’m in an amazing LTR but the initial excitement does wear off and my stupid brain will probably always generate fantasy scenarios. But I know that my guy is an absolute keeper. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/20 02:23 PM
1	Dating Coach Quits Because of Women's Unrealistic Standards That sounds cool, which counties would you like to visit? I moved from the US to the UK, it’s been really interesting living in a new country.	/r/ExRedPill	08/11/20 10:14 PM
1	Dating Coach Quits Because of Women's Unrealistic Standards Thats the big question! What do you want for your life other than romance? Maybe leave the romance problem for now, if it seems too big of a mystery. What else do you like?	/r/ExRedPill	08/11/20 09:42 PM
2	Dating Coach Quits Because of Women's Unrealistic Standards RP: spends all its free time developing elaborate strategies centered around the notion that all women only value status and will constantly try to undermine your confidence and must be dominated before they give mutual respect. Also RP: only attracts such women with said strategies. surprised pikachu face	/r/ExRedPill	06/11/20 07:44 PM
2	Dating Coach Quits Because of Women's Unrealistic Standards I wonder if its a self-protection thing. If they keep finding flaws in every potential partner, they can use that as an excuse for not being able to form romantic connections. By keeping that distance, they don't expose themselves to the humiliation of rejection.	/r/ExRedPill	06/11/20 07:39 PM
2	BRUTAL! My red pilled normie friend was bragging about his Tinder game then this happened! This woman was not turned on, she was actually disgusted and played along to bait him lol. Women are frequently accused of passive communication but in this case TRP approach is reading way too far between the lines instead of accepting what’s on the surface. It’s not a test of his frame. She finds him repulsive and wants him to fuck off. It’s that simple.	/r/ExRedPill	03/11/20 08:52 PM
3	Has your sex and romantic life improved as you've gotten older? I’m imagining a baby that looks like Christina Hendricks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/20 04:05 PM
4	Has your sex and romantic life improved as you've gotten older? Girl same. I’m way more emotionally stable now I’m 30 and that means better communication with regards to sex and less anxiety around it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/20 04:04 PM
13	It's always this type of Alpha master PUA seductive bad boy asshole ladies man player who spent all their time flexing on the internet everyday 24/7 when you take look at their profile. Yup, true alphas are rare but they definitely don’t spend all day affirming how alpha they are.	/r/ExRedPill	30/10/20 11:56 AM
8	How do women treat below average looking guys in social settings? We have no idea why she called him creepy. You’re guessing. “Psychopath” is a top shelf word for someone who, as far as we know, was idly catty once.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/20 08:38 AM
1	My (21M) gf (22f) brought up fear of out our relationship having no romance, which is frustrating because she rejects me constantly To give this a good chance, I think you need to do some soul searching and tell her exactly why you’re unhappy and exactly what you need from her in a clear succinct manner. Be clear that this is serious. If she tries to deflect, stay on track and don’t let her change the subject. Not a casual convo that she can sweep under the rug but a crystal clear statement. Once you’ve been honest and given her a chance to compromise with you, if she still doesn’t communicate or at least try to meet you in …	/r/ExRedPill	28/10/20 02:27 PM
1	glad i found this sub. some thoughts on MGTOW This is weird. I have posts dating back 8 years on this account where I talk about being a woman. Why do you think I’m lying?	/r/ExRedPill	24/10/20 01:49 PM
0	glad i found this sub. some thoughts on MGTOW I’m a woman and I’ve never been a part of TRP.	/r/ExRedPill	24/10/20 01:27 PM
-2	glad i found this sub. some thoughts on MGTOW Lol, I've pissed off the reddit hivemind somehow.	/r/ExRedPill	24/10/20 11:34 AM
1	glad i found this sub. some thoughts on MGTOW True, maybe manosphere isn’t the right word for what I mean. I know some women who hate on any men’s group at all. These women are friends of mine but fall into the more extreme end of feminism where there is some man hating going around. Men need emotional support too and shouldn’t be discouraged from forming supportive networks.	/r/ExRedPill	23/10/20 11:07 PM
-5	glad i found this sub. some thoughts on MGTOW I do get frustrated when other women condemn ANY manosphere subculture; it’s important for men to have spaces where they can gather and talk about issues that are important to them. Some of it is very positive but unfortunately, like any group, the negative parts are also very loud.	/r/ExRedPill	23/10/20 10:35 PM
8	glad i found this sub. some thoughts on MGTOW Nope that’s the healthy part of MGTOW. The woman hating, victim complexes, emotional suppression, hypocrisy, hysteria, and manipulation tactics would make you an asshole. It’s the difference between someone choosing not to have kids and just enjoying their life and their friends like always and someone choosing not to have kids and berating their friends who do have kids, yelling at children in public, calling them crotch spawn and making “childfree” their entire identity instead of just living …	/r/ExRedPill	23/10/20 10:32 PM
13	Womyn r stupid thots. For sex only Red pill is based heavily on psychological projection.	/r/ExRedPill	22/10/20 10:52 PM
1	The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it. Those feminists can fuck right off, you can’t transfer guilt to people in the present. Men throughout history have nothing to feel guilty about. Society was structured that way for a reason. Society changes, improvements can be made. But within TRP and in reaction to Mary Wollstonecraft and suffragettes, there’s a long history of some some men who overattach their identity to power and when they feel disenfranchised, say, by economic collapse or a global pandemic or society changing too quickly,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/20 10:48 PM
2	The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it. That makes sense, it’s not some malicious conspiracy. But reactions to women in the workplace or during the suffrage movement or within TRP do point to some roiling resentment of women who want enfranchisement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/20 10:41 PM
3	The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it. Sure society was structured that way for good reason at the time. It made sense: women were especially attached to their children and raising children and taking care of a household with no dishwasher or washing machine and feeding 9 people is a full time job. Men were pulling hoes or chopping down trees and getting crushed and they are better at those jobs than women because their physically stronger. Everyone wanted a better lot in life so we started inventing machines. But since the 1790s wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/20 08:44 PM
3	The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it. Mary Wollstonecraft wrote Vindication of the Rights of Women in 1790. The suffragette movement came to a head in the 1910s. You’re right, domestic labor has never been assigned monetary value and as a result women from Jane Austen onwards have craved the ability to financially support themselves without relying on male relatives and spouses. As those male relatives often fought in wars and worked dangerous jobs, you can perhaps understand this drive towards financial independence. Mechanisation …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/20 06:59 PM
9	The polarity of gender desire. Men are working to create and sustain it, while women's actions continually reduce it. As soon as a few world wars knocked millions of men out of the workforce and birth control allowed women to choose when to have children, women entered the workforce. Women have always worked, but their labor was unpaid and done in private.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/20 06:06 PM
3	Let’s try a gender swap experiment in dating His original point was baseless conjecture. Why don’t these ample counter examples count for anything? You haven’t dated many men if you think men don’t have dark secrets and baggage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/20 05:51 PM
1	Why do so many men believe that women prefer partners that treat them bad. Not necessarily. Don’t date someone who resents you. Trying to be a decent partner might not always be successful but Bad boy attraction is based on resentment by definition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/20 12:03 PM
1	Does the average guy have much game or do they typically lack in some area? I don’t know, I don’t think of human interaction that way. Sometimes an awkward person is attractive in a weird way and sometimes slick people with game puts me off cos they’re too controlled. Depends on the person and their steez.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/20 11:24 PM
-1	Why do so many men believe that women prefer partners that treat them bad. You think teenage girls and college kids have less drama than adults? The bad boy gets dumped. He was too much trouble. I got with my good boy when I was 22. And let me tell you, I have a lot less baggage now. Being 30 rules, my early 20s were super chaotic. Teenage years I didn’t know what was going on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/20 09:58 PM
1	Why do so many men believe that women prefer partners that treat them bad. Inltogihd I'm not like those other girls, I hate drama	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/20 07:54 PM
-1	Why do so many men believe that women prefer partners that treat them bad. Arplwwld All red pillers like women who like drama.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/20 07:41 PM
-5	Why do so many men believe that women prefer partners that treat them bad. Good boys win. Bad boys illicit a strong response but that doesn’t mean they’re preferable. Some girls might be stuck in the bad boy phase, addicted to the extreme emotions. They might be bad gals, themselves. But most women won’t stay in that phase. I went through a short phase while traveling so I could just move on to the next place and jettison the drama. He had a small cock but he ate amazing pussy and was gorgeous and rude as hell. It was fun but also annoying and you wouldn’t want to do i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/20 07:38 PM
1	Why do so many men believe that women prefer partners that treat them bad. Some women with their own unsorted emotional baggage might temporarily seek the approval of a difficult partner. They might feel that they can save him and that mission gives them a sense of purpose. They might also crave his love and approval more because it is given to them and then denied, which causes emotional spikes. That is not the same as saying “women prefer assholes”. Sometimes women make the mistake of trying to reform an asshole. The asshole approach might get you laid a few times. B…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/20 06:26 PM
2	Modern woman I had a hormonal one and it was super convenient but I do think it killed my sex drive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/20 02:26 PM
10	The red pill is about hate and it creates just as much misandry than misogyny. I’ve really been trying to wrap my head around this aspect of TRP. On the one hand, many users are as you describe; obsessed w getting validation through sex, avoiding or manipulating relationships out of fear for their ego. But these goals are pretty obviously immature. So then other maybe more sensible users try to claim that TRP can work for building mutually respectful human connection. When it seems pretty apparent that healthy connections between men and women aren’t the goal of TRP. So wh…	/r/ExRedPill	19/10/20 11:14 AM
22	The red pill is about hate and it creates just as much misandry than misogyny. To me, TRP is based too heavily on misanthropy and fear and its users bandy about too much cringey demeaning language for it to be worth it. The good parts of TRP can be found from other sources like stoicism, which have withstood the tests of time. But I’m curious what parts of TRP you feel are useful in building a healthy LTR/family life?	/r/ExRedPill	19/10/20 10:34 AM
2	Some funny thoughts about why women always try to prove looks matter. Well, it depends what you mean by “effective.” Effective at what? What are your goals? I think TRP has the wrong goals. It’s misguided. Many of the men in TRP seem to come from a broken family or have recently come out of their first bad breakup. They are afraid and want to protect themselves from pain and humiliation. TRP teaches them to hide behind techniques to avoid pain. They also want validation from women through sex. PUA teaches them tricks to get sex but real validation can’t come from …	/r/ExRedPill	19/10/20 01:35 AM
2	Some funny thoughts about why women always try to prove looks matter. It’s still dishonest and manipulative to be constantly playing mind games with your partner to try and “win” the relationship. This might work in the short term in some relationships. Some pieces of TRP are probably accurate sometimes. But I am a woman in a beautiful LTR and I read a lot about the red pill because I find it fascinating. Most of these men would make terrible long term partners or even casual sex partners because they blame women for all their problems and engage in so much decept…	/r/ExRedPill	19/10/20 01:18 AM
2	Some funny thoughts about why women always try to prove looks matter. Because red pill and PUA treat relationships like a competition where women are the competitor to be beaten. That is an unhealthy basis for even a casual relationship. PUA and red pill train young men to over analyze and hide themselves behind techniques. In a healthy partnership, even a casual one, both people should be on the same team. They should have mutual respect. Being a respectful supportive partner also takes practice and hard work. TRP and PUA won’t give you those skills.	/r/ExRedPill	19/10/20 01:08 AM
1	Some funny thoughts about why women always try to prove looks matter. For both men and women in a speed dating setting, looks are the most important factor in initial attraction. That doesn’t support your original claim that women are always trying to prove that only looks matter. Women in my experience are more likely to say that only self confidence matters.	/r/ExRedPill	19/10/20 12:55 AM
2	Some funny thoughts about why women always try to prove looks matter. I did, the experiment concluded that both men and women are equally drawn to physically attractive partners. Did you read the whole article or just the headline? The experiment also took place in a speed dating settling, which has a high emphasis on first impressions.	/r/ExRedPill	19/10/20 12:51 AM
1	Some funny thoughts about why women always try to prove looks matter. I can’t find any comments in the aging post that say status doesn’t matter Physical attraction is important to both men and women when dating. In your original post you said “So, I have been seeing posts about women trying to prove that looks matter so much. Many of them even come to the conclusion that character, selfesteem, status and wealth dont matter.” But so far you haven’t been able to show any examples of women saying that looks matter the most, despite apparently “seeing posts” about ma…	/r/ExRedPill	19/10/20 12:47 AM
1	Some funny thoughts about why women always try to prove looks matter. It says that the experiment shows that men and women equally value physical attractiveness. “It therefore seems a very solid finding that men and women are equally strongly drawn to physically attractive partners.”	/r/ExRedPill	19/10/20 12:33 AM
2	Some funny thoughts about why women always try to prove looks matter. So you don’t have any examples of women saying looks are everything? EDIT: just searched the post on Aging for the word “looks” and got 0 results.	/r/ExRedPill	19/10/20 12:20 AM
3	Some funny thoughts about why women always try to prove looks matter. The post on ageing? I just went through it again and no one said that looks are everything. Is there a specific comment you are referring to?	/r/ExRedPill	19/10/20 12:16 AM
1	Socially acceptable versus socially right/morals I was a classic suburban white kid who fell in love with hip hop and it became the only genre I listened to and I still listen to it a lot. But as I get older, I have a harder time reconciling the lyrics. At its best, hip hop truthfully describes the circumstances faced by the artists in all their gritty reality, which is what made it so fascinating to me coming from a different context. And I get that the self-aggrandising comes from battle culture and is largely performative. But at a certain …	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 11:09 PM
1	Socially acceptable versus socially right/morals I think as often as possible, we should do what is morally right even if it is socially awkward in the moment. Of course sometimes we fail but in general, if you act in accordance with your higher ideals, you will attract people and opportunities that match those ideals and you will build towards a more positive life. In your relationship, if you had treated her the way she wanted to be treated, ie poorly, you would have had to sell your integrity for instant gratification. This can’t end well i…	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 10:18 PM
7	Some funny thoughts about why women always try to prove looks matter. Insists everyone use logical, relevant arguments. Refuses to read those arguments. Cool strategy.	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 10:06 PM
5	Some funny thoughts about why women always try to prove looks matter. Women think that looks are everything? Everything for who? Where are you seeing this? I’ve never heard of such a thing. This post doesn’t make sense.	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 10:02 PM
12	Aging I use a personal attack because you have come here to sling personal attacks. So we’re both being immature and nasty. You display many characteristics of a bad partner so it’s deluded of you to judge women for something as universal as aging.	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 09:08 PM
13	Aging For a balding guy who struggles talking to women and stalks KPop girl groups you talk a big talk about SMV.	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 08:28 PM
10	Aging You must be very young if getting sex is your only goal and you think graduate students are old.	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 08:12 PM
1	Help a 21 year old understand. I disagree with your first point. I think people in TRP who are starting to question it should be encouraged to come here and get an outside perspective.	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 07:43 PM
1	Help a 21 year old understand. I think the problem with the red pill is that there is some truth to their theories about women and it does “work” in some sense. Where is fails terribly is in a broader philosophical sense. Firstly, the patterns of manipulation identified by TRP do exist. But by fixating on these patterns and dedicated so much time and energy to “winning” these games, men of TRP build a self-fulfilling prophecy around themselves. When you become obsessed with anything you’ll start to notice it everywhere. Then,…	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 07:40 PM
5	Aging How old are you?	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 07:11 PM
18	Aging So many of the claims made by TRP are based on the notion that all of human connection can be described in tidy theories and conquered with enough techniques. Human connection is too vast and fuzzy for anything like this. These young men are afraid of the pain and humiliation that inevitably comes with participating in society and are trying to cope with that pain by imposing their own hard sense of order on the whole world. Some women age beautifully and gracefully, others cling to youth, men a…	/r/ExRedPill	18/10/20 04:00 PM
3	When they think they know something but they don’t There’s definitely a lot of projecting going on in red pill ideology. Anyone so determined to see the world as a hostile wasteland is really just carrying that feeling around inside themselves all the time. And blaming women and hiding behind these “techniques” is only going to further entrench that sadness. It’s why I’m not mad at red pillers and am more curious and concerned. They are quite desperate to protect themselves from pain.	/r/ExRedPill	17/10/20 04:24 PM
6	When they think they know something but they don’t If you read between the lines on these field reports, they’re always tragic. And made even more tragic by the misanthropy and insecurity in the story telling. Ultimately, even casual sex is only fun when it’s based on some form of mutual respect and the red pill doesn’t allow for that kind of connection.	/r/ExRedPill	17/10/20 04:17 PM
15	When they think they know something but they don’t I’ve been thinking this about the red pill. Most of these guys are very young and have been in maybe one serious relationship and they post a huge wall of text, boasting about understanding the nature of all women and all their sophisticated techniques for winning at mind games. The things red pill advocates, treating half the species like a dangerous poisonous frog, giving up on human connection, projecting a fake “alpha” persona, treating all relationships like a video game, are quite extreme.…	/r/ExRedPill	17/10/20 03:12 PM
4	Ladies of exredpill, do you like the strong, sensitive type of man? I’m a woman and my fiancé is a strong sensitive type. Although to in the broader picture, as we build our lives together and deepen our bond we will eventually see a huge range of emotions in one another. We will both be each other’s rock and we will both melt down and need to be carried by the other. I would never throw away what we have because he hit a rough patch or needed support. In fact, because he is usually unflappable, when he does open up emotionally I’m always dead curious to know mo…	/r/ExRedPill	16/10/20 03:07 PM
39	Hello, exredpill. I still AM red pill aware (basically red pill has taught me intersexual dynamics among humans), but not MGTOW. Though I have to say, some of the people on the r/MGTOW sub are absolutely disgusting. Just look at this post, they're trying to take away women's right to vote.... :( The libertarian presidential candidate this year is a woman. Pretty sure she doesn’t want daddy to spend more on services. The OP is clearly 17 and just read half of Fountainhead, also written by a woman.	/r/ExRedPill	07/10/20 07:30 AM
9	TRP, marriage, and divorce: a rant. I guess I’m curious what the endgame is of TRP. If marriage is for betas to get exploited and strong stoic men go their own way, is there such thing as a constructive long term partnership built on genuine mutual respect? Does TRP consider such a thing impossible? Or do they consider it not worth pursuing? EDIT: this is a genuine question! No bad faith, I’m actually curious!	/r/ExRedPill	05/10/20 08:47 PM
1	Ghosted on fifth date Ah yikes! I mean it’s hard to say but there’s no reason to think she’s making it up. Either way, you know it’s time to move on which sucks but at least you don’t have to sit around wondering!	/r/ExRedPill	04/10/20 10:56 PM
1	Ghosted on fifth date Good luck out there! There’s plenty more fish in the sea!	/r/ExRedPill	01/10/20 10:24 PM
2	Ghosted on fifth date Well he found out she’s a ghoster and can move on to someone who doesn’t get spooked over dumb shit. There’s also no conclusive proof why she’s disappeared. Could be a car crash or her phone fell in the toilet.	/r/ExRedPill	01/10/20 10:20 PM
1	Ghosted on fifth date Yea seems red pilled. So many of those guys are inexperienced, insecure, and overthinking. There’s no magic list of all the things that can go wrong and instantly wreck a relationship. There’s no finite list of actions that will turn a girl off forever. I’m in a long term super excellent relationship and I’ve seen him cry, he’s seen me cry, I’ve seen him act terribly, he’s seen me act badly, we’ve both turned each other down for sex many times and have both occasionally been through phases where…	/r/ExRedPill	01/10/20 10:09 PM
1	Ghosted on fifth date Ya I really don’t understand the notion that girls will be turned off if you are affectionate or open. I’m a lady and have never once been turned off by affection or emotional connection. Quite the opposite. My best guess is that TRP only works for tricking insecure girls into needing validation from you, which isn’t the same as building a relationship or even having fun casual sex. Given the fact that you guys have had several dates and were even planning other activities, I think you’re well w…	/r/ExRedPill	01/10/20 05:37 PM
9	Ghosted on fifth date One of my major problems with TRP is the idea that there is an ultimate “right” way to date which will unlock infinite success with women. There is no such method. Given the above information there’s no suggestion you did anything wrong. But we just don’t know. We do know this girl couldn’t be bothered to give you an explanation, which isn’t very kind. The other problem with questing for the ultimate “right” way to date is that it doesn’t account for human error in the women. It sounds like she …	/r/ExRedPill	01/10/20 03:32 PM
3	Red Pill Panic/Anxiety attacks - Can anyone relate? With my fiance, I'm always curious what's going on in his head. It's a generalization but I think that women are more aware of their complex emotions than men, or are at least more conditioned to express them. Because my partner can be fairly stoic, it makes me feel like I'm always the crazy emotional one so it's a relief when I get a chance to help him with his emotions. It makes me feel useful in the relationship and it makes me feel close to him. I just love him and I like having a chance to …	/r/ExRedPill	26/09/20 12:17 AM
5	What should I do, then? What you should do is become a competent, useful, compassionate, fully realized human being. Become those things not so people will reward you with sex and attention but because those qualities are good for you, good for your community, and good for mankind. Get a higher goal than dates and sex.	/r/ExRedPill	26/09/20 12:08 AM
1	The Church failed in leading men? Probably the same type of person who thinks a female lead in a movie is FeMiNisIm gone WILD!!!!!	/r/ExRedPill	26/09/20 12:04 AM
13	I have misogynistic views and I want to change The idea of a "chad" is mostly mythological. Sure, there are some who match that archetype but most people have insecurities, awkward phases, commit terrible social snafus, have at least one shit relationship. My dad used to tell me that at some point, you will be everything to someone. Meaning at some point you will be the most inconceivably intelligent person in the room. At another point you will be embarassingly idiotic compared to everyone else. You will be a natural at a group activity and…	/r/ExRedPill	26/09/20 12:00 AM
1	Dating while black. Noooo, don’t give up on society! It’s far too early for that. It’s hard and it sucks and you won’t ever get enough credit but the other option is much worse. It takes a TON of work to keep our society running as well as it does and if good people start dropping out we’re doomed. Once you give up and drop out, your life becomes useless. I really believe work is holy. If you work hard for work’s sake, you will improve yourself and the world around you. Those improvements give life meaning, even wh…	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 10:52 PM
1	Dating while black. Oh wow so you’ve got it coming from both sides; either too threatening or too weak. I do feel for black men that there seems to be this idea of a REAL black man, which doesn’t apply to any other race or even black women in the same way. What do you think are the differences between what your mom taught you and what society is like today?	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 09:23 PM
1	Dating while black. It’s all a mixed bag; people are def more likely to help me because of how I look. But they are also more likely to assume I’m incapable. Generally speaking it doesn’t impede my life and while some feminism is useful to me, I think modern feminism overemphasises oppression and retaliation and underemphasises just becoming a competent, content human being. When I moved to a city, it was actually an Afro-Caribbean Neighborhood and the first person we made friends with was a big beautiful black man…	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 08:58 PM
1	Dating while black. It’s such a tough one; I’m a relatively small white lady myself and am almost never perceived as threatening. But I’m also quite murderable. So I’d hate to get mugged or murdered because I was too polite to do anything when I thought I might be in danger. The flip side of this whole threatening coin is that people feel entitled to my time and space more often because I look like I’m out of a Disney movie so sometimes I have to get mean, even though it’s very uncomfortable to do. That said, when …	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 08:39 PM
-1	Dating while black. Because we don’t goddamn know this person and neither do you. You’re not in a position to diagnose him based on some reddit comments. He told a personal story and you decided not to believe him and got mad when he wouldn’t accept YOUR version of something that happened TO HIM and not you? Go outside, please. Maybe get some professional help yourself.	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 08:21 PM
0	Dating while black. Why are you following this man around on the internet then.	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 08:14 PM
0	Dating while black. Looks like a young guy struggling with dating and his place in the world. Not exactly shocking on /r/exredpill. Sorry I’m not seeing what’s got you clutching your pearls.	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 08:10 PM
0	Dating while black. He does have a point tho; just because he has a mental health issue doesn’t mean people can never treat him unfairly. I’m really confused why you felt the need to throw this mans mental health struggles in his face so hard when he came here to vent.	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 08:07 PM
1	Dating while black. You are making a ton of terrible assumptions about this poster who has come here for help. You don’t know any more about the situation than anyone else. What reason do you have not to believe OP?	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 08:03 PM
2	Dating while black. Hey mate, I’m sorry to hear your experiences have been rough and that other commenters here have jumped down your throat. I know other big black folks and they do have a hard time toning themselves down because they are perceived as more threatening. It’s definitely something that happens frequently to folks and even if it’s not overt reactions, small reactions from people all day every day can really wear you down. Do you have any people IRL you can talk to who relate to your experience?	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 07:59 PM
1	Is any of that crap over there working? I think it’s not unlike feminism; there’s some useful philosophy about how to modernise gender roles, how to assert yourself, how to achieve big goals, and then there’s the genuine belief that all men are evil and the cause of all bad things in the world. Some of its useful, some of it is just plain hate. TRP uses the same logic, just from the “other side.”	/r/ExRedPill	22/09/20 11:44 AM
1	High Standards. if women have super unrealistic standards for instance There are roughly 4 billion women in the world. 1 million seconds is 11.5 days. 1 billion seconds is 31.5 years. Thats a lot of women. Do you think an internet forum of inexperienced young men can possibly have the answer to your question? Is it even possible to answer your question?	/r/ExRedPill	21/09/20 12:55 PM
1	High Standards. Online, its very easy to get looped into certain communities and lose perspective. If you learn about women from TRP, you're learning from a very specific subset of men with a very specific experience of women. That experience might not be completely false, but it will be very specific and not a good representation of aaaaaall the other possibilities in relationships.	/r/ExRedPill	21/09/20 12:47 PM
1	High Standards. The thing is TRP is probably not 100 percent false. Women are picky maters compared to other species (sorry I know this sounds incely), and probably a lot of the techniques TRP describe do “work” in an aggressive dating environment when it comes to getting laid. But TRPs ultimate flaw is that it is built on fear and distrust. While many women probably do have some of the terrible qualities ascribed by TRP, many of them don’t. And assuming the worst of every woman and becoming obsessed with strat…	/r/ExRedPill	21/09/20 12:29 PM
1	High Standards. Where are you making your observations?	/r/ExRedPill	21/09/20 12:21 PM
1	Attention&Drama “Women love attention from as meny boys as they can get, they need external validation and to feel special.” This from an online community obsessed with the opposite sex and racking up body count? TRP wants to attribute all human foibles to “Women” exclusively. Everyone at some point craves attention and wants validation from the opposite sex.	/r/ExRedPill	17/09/20 11:18 PM
12	Never Enough I’m a woman and I ride my bike to work on Monday with a huge smile on my face cos I love my job so much. My partner is a Greco-Roman demigod in my eyes and we are really soul mates. I wouldn’t trade him or my life for anything in the world. And I know tons of men and women who are malcontented. It’s not exclusive to women. TRP seems to think that “Woman” is a video game you can finally win one day. Humans of every sort comprise a myriad of contradictory emotions and impulses. We can barely know …	/r/ExRedPill	17/09/20 11:11 PM