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Because it’s unnecessary and not worth the risk of death, illness, or malfunction it can cause.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 07:45 AM
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Frankly I’d call it child murder and let it be well known before dropping the both of them in general population.
/r/MensRights07/05/22 09:30 AM
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They can’t have any of that “wrong” think floating around.
/r/MensRights02/01/22 05:05 PM
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I think you should stop qualifying the abuse of men because “those men over there are bad”. All that does is tell feminists that they have a point when really their movement was founded on racist and sexist principles.
/r/MensRights06/11/21 06:22 PM
2

You mean work out early then go to work? Or is preworkout something else? Worth considering thought I already get up at 5:30 to get ready for work. Oh well. Gotta do what you gotta do, right?
/r/MGTOW212/08/20 08:21 PM
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Good call. Thanks for the input.
/r/MGTOW212/08/20 08:19 PM
160

Notice the difference? In 1997 there was a dad.
/r/MGTOW25/01/20 11:14 PM
5

That’s cool. I don’t agree, and wish I had the right to make that decision for myself though.
/r/MensRights23/01/20 10:34 PM
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That’s fine then. He’s a grown man who’s happy with the decision he’s made. I’ve no issue there. I only have issues with doing it to kids who don’t know what they are losing, or people thinking its just nothing when in reality its a major surgery that will change sexual function.
/r/MensRights23/01/20 08:23 PM
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Never ever EVER alter your genitalia based on someone else’s opinion or whim. I read something a while ago a out how a guy got circumcised as an adult because that’s what his gf wanted. He was very unhappy with it and she was too after the fact.
/r/MensRights23/01/20 06:37 PM
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You’re not wrong. The key to change is in women for once recognizing that short term gain for them leads to long term disaster for our civilization. As men there is little to nothing we can do to stop it. We don’t have the in group preference for other men that women have for other women. In that case it seems most prudent to stay clear of the blast zone of a bomb you know damn well you can’t defuse.
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 09:32 PM
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Who is more grown up? The tradcon who still believes in the fairytale of a happy marriage and loving family, or the man who went his own way after years of experience showing him that divorce is real, women are unfaithful and spiteful, and your children will never get to see you as you work yourself to death trying to keep a house over their heads while their mother, teachers, daycare workers etc all pour the poison if feminism in their ears? To see the truth is the most responsible thing a man …
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 09:27 PM
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Look at the shit she did to you as a fire that burnt down your old house. The one with the leaky roof, and that crooked wall. The window that never sealed properly. The foundation of who you are is still there though. You can rebuild it. Make it better. Stronger. The friends are one of two options in my mind. Either she killed your relationships with them by lying about you or offering to get in her pants. Those “friends” aren’t worth the name and good riddance. The other I can see is that you l…
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 09:12 PM
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Got any proof of that? And even if true what does that have to do with us? Mgtow are not incels. The philosophies are incompatible.
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 06:13 PM
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Wait, why the hell do we care if women are held to sexual standards? We are too. Gotta be 6’ tall, make 6 figures, have a 6 pack etc. If anything Islam forces hyper competition with its men. You end up with wealthy guys having many wives while most average guys have no hope of competing at all. Its all blue pilled gynocentrism done in different ways. Frankly I’m not concerned if women have it better or worse in the west or under islam. I am concerned that men are in such bad shape and are killin…
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 05:39 PM
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Well guys, clearly she wants to be told what to do. I suggest “why don’t you pack your shit and get outta here, I’m gonna meet the guys for a beer.”
/r/MGTOW07/01/20 09:04 PM
1

How do you take everything from someone who has nothing? Time for her to get a job.
/r/MGTOW23/12/19 01:32 PM
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Imagine how much fun he’d have paying obscene amounts of child support, facing accusations of being a deadbeat dad, and never getting to see his kids. I’m sure its just a barrel of laughs.
/r/MGTOW23/12/19 01:29 PM
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It varies by province, in mine its 2 years living together without a child, one with. This is referred to as common law marriage. Which is legally considered the same as a religious/voluntary marriage. In which case if she leaves she can take you to divorce court even though there never was a wedding.
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 02:35 PM
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Be careful sheep are crafty. You might get fleeced.
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 05:10 AM
2

I said NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY!
/r/MGTOW29/08/19 10:19 PM
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You can still get warts even while wearing rubbers.
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 04:48 PM
2

Fear? Of women? Lol. Look carefully gentlemen, and any ladies who happen to be lurking. An average chick thinks that men fear her, only think with their genitals (the blow job comment) and resorts to shaming language to try to get what she wants. As long as such dishonest foolishness continues, the more men will go their own way. Its only a matter of time.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 06:42 PM
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Here’s an idea, he (husband) lets her fuck other dudes, all the while he goes to AA meetings and drains their shared bank accounts of money at the casino. A few hundred to a couple thousand a night. Then divorce her, and claim he spent all the money on booze and gambling as a result of depression that she was cheating on him. Gets rid of her, keeps the money. (Addition) or, you know, just don’t get married.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 07:20 PM
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Murder chickens dude. I'm not even sure when that started. I think it was link to the past. But its even in breath of the Wild now. Lol
/r/MGTOW30/09/17 10:57 PM
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That game was awesome. Uniquely creepy for a Zelda game, the NPCs have their own routines and stories going on, and the time travel mechanic was awesome. Fuck that water temple though. People bitch about the one in Ocarina of time, but Majora's water temple is my bane.
/r/MGTOW30/09/17 10:54 PM
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Love that game. It's awesome. The only thing that kinda bugs me is how Link is now right handed. That's completely overwhelmed by the awesomeness though.
/r/MGTOW30/09/17 10:46 PM
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That's Link to the Past. It was pretty awesome too. I remember playing it as a kid. Breath of the Wild kicks ass too.
/r/MGTOW30/09/17 10:45 PM
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True enough. One less guy hanging from a rope, one less guy driving his truck off a cliff, one less guy lighting himself on fire out front of a courthouse, one less guy jumping in front of a train. It's worth it. No doubt there.
/r/MGTOW30/09/17 10:29 PM
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I never understood people complaining about this. Most every man has to deal with women at some point in his daily routine. Be they coworker, sister, mother, daughter, ex-wife, wife(get the hell out dude!). Women will have an impact on the men around them. So it is vital to a man's wellbeing to understand the nature of the beast, and how to avoid that shit. It's the same as understanding the habits of bears or wolves. It's so you can avoid the worst they can do to you.
/r/MGTOW30/09/17 10:16 PM
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Haven't read the article. Not going too. Mostly because their reasons will be as shallow and boring as they are.
/r/MGTOW29/09/17 03:10 PM
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More than that. Basic infrastructure. Who keeps the power on, the roads in good shape, the heat on, the water flowing, and the sewage leaving. Who loads/unloads ships, trains, and trucks with goods ranging from the absolutely vital to the frivolous? Who builds housing and commercial buildings? Who grows the food? Who fights the wars? It's not women. Period. Things like the women's march prove it. If all these men did the same, the chaos would take years to restore to normal. Nations would fall. …
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 04:27 PM
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Likely not. But I've heard the talk of "make the women do other stuff". In reality if we're fielding volunteer armies, there may be enough women for one or two undersized battalions. But conscription is still a thing. And we certainly are not talking the cream of the crop once that starts. Conscripts don't get the best gear, dont get decent training, don't get good officers, and tend to be dumped neck deep in the shit. In that case, if all we're looking for is bodies to hold rifles and get shot …
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 02:42 PM
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Absolutely not. Make women only battalions. If you make it so women do everything else behind the lines, then that'll put men exclusively into combat. Yeah, they can't carry as much, nor run as far. But they can still shoot, and to hell with coddling them. If they want to see the blood, guts, and utter hell combat can be, then dump em in.
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 02:26 PM
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She has a good point. Must mean North Korea is a true paradise/s. Maybe she should go see? I'll chip in on a one way ticket.
/r/MGTOW27/09/17 04:46 AM
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Lisa Senecal. She wants to be the banner for thousands of white knights I guess. Too bad. I'm not going out of my way to confront someone cause they said something that hurt your feels. I got better shit to do. Like anything else.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 01:25 AM
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Give kids back their dads. This is fucked.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 01:21 AM
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What the hell do you mean "again" lol. Just no.
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 02:40 PM
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So they immediately jump to "child" dolls. Attempting to equate guys using a sexdoll to pedos now, are they? Though honestly I'd much prefer pedos using sexdolls if they have to rather than raping children. But that's very common sense and doesn't let the poor women use their victim card. Getting pretty sick of their shit.
/r/MGTOW25/09/17 01:33 PM
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It's ok though! Because Trudeau just wants to collect all the money and then give it right back! He totally said so you guys! It's not a massive scam of any kind! He's totally serious! /s Not to mention the mile long list of election promises that all went to shit. Electoral reform? I know that's the one promise that likely got him elected and one thing that a significant snout of Canadians wanted but, fuck it. Sounds hard. Guess it's time for more selfies, and social justice preaching. I'm so s…
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 02:58 PM
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If it makes anyone feel any better I'm Canadian and I don't really give a fuck about what Trudeau wants. I'd tell him to lick my taint, but I suspect he'd like it too much for my comfort.
/r/MGTOW22/09/17 04:14 AM
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Well, he didn't say just how big the bottle was.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:47 PM
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You're right. Finding help isn't weak. But when all the "help" you find just tells you that you are to blame for all your problems and issues, and that you need to talk about your feelings, emote more etc. That's not going to help. Maybe 20% of men respond to talk therapy. That leaves 80% that don't. The solution is t to change them to fit treatment. It's to change treatment to fit them. It takes a lot of footwork here to find a therapist who isn't feminist for one. Even more so to find one who …
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:35 PM
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Well, very few women bosses need worry about any of this. I mean, it says right at the start that they want to avoid appearing competent. Mission accomplished.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 05:20 PM
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Damn. Nothing trumps the narcissistic mother. A shitty ex gf or ex wife can make your life hell, but the narcissistic mother makes hell your life.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 04:58 PM
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I hate the term "man up" too. It leads to men killing themselves because they hold themselves to too high of a standard. What we need are resources that work. We need suicide hotlines that actually listen and provide good resources. We need mental health professionals who work with men, not try to make them like women then "help". Tom Golden talks about this stuff a lot on his YouTube channel. He's outlined a huge amount of these issues from inside the system.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 01:44 PM
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They also kill themselves in more effective ways. They shoot themselves in the head with a shotgun, hang themselves, jump in front of trains, jump off high bridges into freezing water. The very actions show that they aren't looking for help. They're looking for the end.
/r/MGTOW21/09/17 01:38 PM
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There was a question on askmen about choosing between your wife, or your kid if there was birth complications. Holy fuck the amount of people saying fuck the baby save the woman regardless of the situation was pretty messed up. I shit you not one guy said save the woman, there's already plenty of babies. So I said, well by that logic, there's lots of women, save the baby. That went over as well as you'd expect. In short, women are valued over men, AND children.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 06:55 PM
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25-26 is about the most optimal time for popping out a kid. Every year past that is downhill straight to the wall. For women anyway. If she's living hard and not looking after herself it's certainly possible to hit the wall at 25. That being said, you may be able to slap a coat of paint on her, but the amount of time it'll take at 25 to try and reverse any damage will mean she's hit the wall anyway. So I don't think there's much recovering.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 06:45 PM
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How nice. I wonder if it's occurred to her that a man doesn't have to be old to be treated as she describes? All he has to do is fail, be weak, be poor, be sick or ill, etc. Essentially all a man has to do to not be treated human is be human. So excuse me for not giving a fuck dear, but at least you had a chance. Plenty of men don't even get that.
/r/MGTOW20/09/17 01:04 PM
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Excellent work ladies and gentlemen. Maybe one day you won't have to speak for infants who can't defend themselves.
/r/MensRights19/09/17 11:00 PM
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Don't fall for the "modern" trope. Feminism was always bad. There was never need for it. It began with women firebombing buildings and acting as terrorists would. Look where it's gone. It's all shit.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 09:01 PM
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No. Because just as some who were slaves all their lives couldn't cope with freedom, others took to it. They learned what they were deprived of. That is us. We know what we were denied. We will not be denied anymore.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 05:34 PM
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Nah. Toss her in an Iraqi ditch. Good enough.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/17 04:45 PM
2

Check your state laws. In Canada we have Good Samaritan laws which essentially mean that you cannot be sued if you were attempting to help someone. Even if you cause inadvertent disability or damage. Maybe some states have something similar.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 04:35 PM
2

I dunno. Calling gender studies a "skill" is a little strong I think.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 04:31 PM
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Feminism may be coming to an end. But feminism isn't the problem. It's the bloody mini-boss. Gynocentrism is the issue here that allowed feminism to become a thing. And that's not going anywhere any time soon.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 04:27 PM
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Hahahahahahaha! My grandma is Eastern European. She's nuttier than squirrel shit. Dangerous levels of crazy.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 04:22 PM
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That, is where you're half right. Women act like this because it's their nature. You ever wonder why up until the 1800's men were the primary carers for children about as soon as they didn't need the tit and were toilet trained? The vast majority of child killings and neglect happen at the hands of women. All they gotta do is find another Chad to ride to pop out another kid. Not so easy for a father to replace his children. Plus shit like this convinces me empathy is a male emotion.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 04:20 PM
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Bye bitch. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. I don't want ass prints on my door.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 03:11 PM
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Of course many don't actively scheme to take your shit. They assume it's theirs as soon as they move their asses in. Coupled with an entire lack of responsibility, and being unaccustomed to hearing "no" makes for the most entitled cunt who doesn't need to actively scheme to take your shit. She'll do it subconsciously. And the law is more than happy to hand your shit over to her. I find it more disturbing that way. It's the norm, not a particularly nasty cunt.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 03:10 PM
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You're not wrong, a significant amount of slaves were content if not necessarily happy. Certainly those born into slavery as they had no previous freedom or life to compare to that of a slave. They were conditioned to rely on their masters for everything. And so they did. Most of the violent slave rebellions in history came from slaves who were taken prisoner, or who were treated exceptionally harshly or violent. But even after American emancipation there were slaves who stayed on with their pre…
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 01:33 PM
1

And maybe there is more in this chick's desire to control the speech and interactions of others than she realizes?
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 06:00 PM
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Didn't know it took 3 1/2 minutes to say "entitled shits"
/r/MGTOW18/09/17 05:36 AM
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No MAGA huh? Now I may not be a professional troll, but I have an idea...
/r/MGTOW03/09/17 10:14 PM
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Some, maybe, but medieval war bows had a draw weight of multiple hundreds of pounds. Very few chicks gonna be able to draw those bows.
/r/MGTOW28/08/17 09:17 PM
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I can't speak for the east, but in the west? Not a fan. Maybe we'll start up talks of the west separating from the east again. A world without Toronto. It'll be wonderful. We'll still have Vancouver though. Ugh.
/r/MGTOW28/08/17 01:10 PM
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You know, I'm starting to think nuclear winter won't be so bad.
/r/MGTOW28/08/17 01:08 PM
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Damn right Skeletor! Don't take that shit!
/r/MGTOW26/08/17 10:09 PM
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It's possible for a incel to become MGTOW, but he can't be both at once. That's the point. The mental landscape has to be there. As long as you're stuck in the "involuntarily" part of incel, you're not going your own way. The two labels are incompatible.
/r/MGTOW26/08/17 03:52 PM
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Yup. A lazy selfish Chad who wanted everybody else's stuff without having to work. So, communism. Lol
/r/MGTOW26/08/17 03:42 PM
1

No, certainly not. But in my country for instance, income tax didn't exist until the First World War. It was supposed to be a temporary measure for the war effort. Then, it never really stopped. The point being that the government may not be trying to actively get control over their citizens, but they aren't giving up that control either are they?
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 11:29 PM
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Plus who really cares about shirts? Pants are the real tyrant if you ask me!
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 11:09 PM
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I don't disagree. It's always been like this, true. There is no excuse for it. But I do think that the effort has been ramped up much more in modernity than back then. They keep piling straw on the camels back, so to say. And get confused as the herd gets smaller and smaller.
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 11:06 PM
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Hard to believe. I mean, it would require her to keep a promise!
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 05:18 PM
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He's worked his entire life for other people. His own wants, dreams, desires are long since dead. His youth is gone. All he's ever known is working for others. To the point where he can't even remember what he gave up. Or maybe all he's given up he justifies by it being the "mans burden". So he could at least be proud of himself. At this point in his life, it's ringing hollow. He probably feels no one understands him or his life. And yes, depression will make him lose interest in everything and …
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 04:55 PM
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Yeah, I get that. Oh well. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta. The best I can hope for at this point is to get a good pension and retire by my mid fifties. Maybe sooner if I make good investments. I got time yet.
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 02:57 PM
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Plus we add in the increasing divide in men's enrolment vs women's enrolment. Plus women's tendency to more hypergamous behaviour the wealthier they are, equals no one happy. Surprise. Still, the point I'm trying to make is that men's happiness and fulfillment has never been a priority. Even amongst the wealthy and powerful, service has been a large driving factor of men's lives all through history. Just now, all pretence of self interest for men is long gone. Now it's work, not for your family,…
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 02:55 PM
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Ah, yes. How could I forget what a terrible hateful ogre I am! I mean, not wanting others to control my life is just so hateful! /s lol
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 02:44 PM
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I agree with most everything you said here, but could I get a bit of clarification on the last sentence? Which hate group?
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 02:30 PM
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So another stupid cunt who doesn't understand history? Women in England were permitted to vote when men were provided that they owned their own land. Women got the universal vote federally in my country by may of 1918. (Keep in mind where the men were) in my province, they got the provincial vote in 1917, and the first thing they did was vote in prohibition. Men in my country got universal suffrage in 1920. So while over one hundred thousand young men fell in the mud, blood, shit, and shell blas…
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 01:52 PM
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they can now stay single, be lesbians, marry a poor man,... They're never gonna marry a poor man, unless they're poorer than him. See hypergamy.
/r/MGTOW24/08/17 01:30 PM
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The best part is all the people predicting that all the blue collar jobs will be replaced with bots, but somehow paper pushers think that AIs a computer network and internet access won't replace their ridiculous office jobs? Lol I know more that a few trades that require much more skill and talent than plenty of admin positions.
/r/MGTOW23/08/17 09:29 PM
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Were men ever happy and fulfilled? You can't mean to tell me that the coal miner of the fifties was happy working in dangerous conditions getting black lung so his wife could take his pay cheque to divvy up. Or the fisherman at the turn of the century struggling to bring in his catch, the farmers and their sons doing back breaking work for their entire lives only to be conscripted to fight someone else's wars as has been happening since farming was a thing. Men have always been the poor fuckers …
/r/MGTOW23/08/17 09:21 PM
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It'd be nice if it fixed itself, but don't mind me getting out of the blast zone. I'll be the guy with the lawn chair, beer, and home made venison brats.
/r/MGTOW23/08/17 09:07 PM
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Hell yeah. I'd be up for kids from a surrogate. Provided it could be done through a legal contract denying her paternity. Or if not that, then making it so I wouldn't be on the hook in any way. Ideally with eggs from another random woman with good genes. Try to prevent DNA relations with the surrogate then. Sadly I'm pretty sure surrogacy is illegal unless your married in my country.
/r/MGTOW23/08/17 08:48 PM
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Ohhh. I see. We can't be redpilled because we aren't knocking up broads left and right, getting trapped in the family courts? If I got default custody of any kid I sired, not even child support, I'd go get a couple chicks pregnant. That's not what happens though is it? It's soooooo not red pill to go your own way and not get fucked over at every turn. If you think we can't see your shaming bullshit for what it is, you're mistaken.
/r/MGTOW23/08/17 08:38 PM
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Not to mention the easiest way by far to cut down on sex trafficking is to legalize prostitution. There's still gonna be some of course, but the vast majority of it will vanish when hookers can operate on their own in the open.
/r/MGTOW23/08/17 04:08 PM
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Knights, much like soldiers are servants. Men made into weapons and expected to throw away their lives for others. That doesn't sound like the best deal to me. I understand camaraderie, and I have friends I'd die for, and they me. But that's the coping mechanism of these men. Because the people who send them to die don't care about that. They don't give much of a fuck in general. The very reason that a knight is bad is simply because they are not free. I'd rather be free than fight and die for p…
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 05:30 PM
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It appears you're correct. The term however refers to the desire to increase social class/caste and standing through marriage/ mating opportunities. Maybe you are hypergamous. But the physical attractiveness of a potential mate isn't social class. Good luck finding wealthy powerful women.
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 01:55 PM
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Hypergamy is the intensifying of the desire to gain social status. By women. It has nothing to do with you. Unless you mean to tell us you are the single best man/mate who had ever existed. The word literally means extreme female. So you tell me how wanting to bang multiple broads has anything to do with hypergamy. Sounds more like promiscuous behaviour. Not hypergamy.
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 01:49 PM
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You don't know what hypergamy is. At all. It's not banging hotter chicks. This post is ridiculous, and your level of misunderstanding is purely amazing. I'm sure you'll enjoy going back to the plantation.
/r/MGTOW22/08/17 01:40 PM
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On the plus, someone should get the mineral rights. There's a fortune in salt right there.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/08/17 10:35 PM
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Just... needs... more... frames...
/r/MGTOW21/08/17 05:32 PM
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Lol, love their sons? They don't love their sons as their own individual selves. They love their sons as reflections of themselves. Act on your own, for yourself, and be different, and that love won't last either.
/r/MGTOW21/08/17 04:36 PM
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There are no MGTOW goals. Beyond self interest and preservation of our individual liberty. If you want long term relations, the only way to stay MGTOW is to avoid marriage AND cohabitation like the plague. Jordan Peterson is interesting. I was surprised to hear him apologize about his initial thoughts on MGTOW. originally I had him pegged as a conservative traditionalist. (Not necessarily bad, but they don't like us for different reasons.) There may very well be plenty of guys here who had troub…
/r/MGTOW21/08/17 04:12 PM
1

You can't be involuntarily MGTOW. you can be involuntary Incel, but to be MGTOW requires you actively choosing to avoid long term relationships with women.
/r/MGTOW21/08/17 03:34 PM
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Nah. I'd just say that if her survival depends on me doing that for her, she ain't gonna live long. Cause I'm not going to do that.
/r/MGTOW21/08/17 03:24 PM
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I see you are excellent at writing feminist fict-I mean facts. Yes. Facts.
/r/MGTOW17/08/17 09:57 PM
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I think it's more her saying she got shit grades cause she wasn't studying. Too busy chasing boys, not that THE MENZ held her down. I mean the UN shit is stupid, but I don't think this chick's tweeted anything too egregious here.
/r/MGTOW17/08/17 09:54 PM
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The only time wearing chick clothes is acceptable is when protesting MALE dress codes. Or at least that's the only time I'd do it. Pretty hard to respect these couple of tools.
/r/MGTOW17/08/17 08:29 PM
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Absolutely not. Feminism is never needed. Women's rights are acceptable, but they must come with responsibilities. For all the horror stories you reference, who's responsibility is it to care for those women? Someone else's. The only difference between east and west is prioritization of women's rights vs women's protection. As one gains more rights, they by necessity must lose protections. The west, through feminism has tried to give women both, and have in the process destroyed the nuclear fami…
/r/MGTOW17/08/17 04:05 PM
2

If we were to make a MGTOW friendly society, I think we'd have to go with city-states much like the classical Greeks. Try to make them as much of a participatory democracy for citizens as much as possible. I'd also want a constitution outlining the basic rights of all citizens/inhabitants that could not be violated short of criminal behaviour/harming others. Something along the lines of as long as you do not violate the rights of another, your rights will also be upheld. Modern technology like t…
/r/MGTOW17/08/17 03:57 PM
9

Wow, I remember working some really really shit jobs out of highschool, to the point where I was alcoholic, depressed, and often injured doing dangerous tasks for not much pay. I was put into deliberately dangerous situations involving chemicals, heavy machinery, toxic materials, etc. When I'd get home and want to talk about how much I hated my life, and my job, because on top of being dangerous, I was constantly expected to work shit tons of overtime. All I ever got from my family was "well, yo…
/r/MGTOW16/08/17 08:24 PM
8

Probably something about national socialists being bad, while international socialists are good. Same shit, different pile if you ask me.
/r/MGTOW15/08/17 11:22 PM
1

Is is ALWAYS a good time to use violence against those you disagree with. Western civilization was built on that attitude. That's not a "western" attitude. That's your anti west bias. Wether I'm American or not has nothing to do with anything by the way.
/r/MensRights15/08/17 07:12 PM
1

Every civilization had that phase. Not just west. Maybe take your anti west bias and try to look objectively.
/r/MensRights15/08/17 07:05 PM
3

You can discuss whatever you want here, but keep in mind you're going to hear some pretty harsh stuff. This is above all a place for guys who are hurting to get shit off their chests. Gay guys too of course. Thats the primary purpose here. If you keep your cool, and let the harsher shit slide, you may learn something. Because he is the most important person in my life and I don't want to ever loose him. That's good, but we've all heard that before. Guess how it turned out? Not exactly sunshine a…
/r/MGTOW14/08/17 11:05 PM
10

Compared to feminists you mean? Well, they're a multi billion dollar political, "academic" lobby group with widespread support from the wealthy and powerful. We're a bunch of randos on the internet talking about legitimate failures of equality and human rights on the ground affecting people from the highest to the lowest rungs of society. Remember that for everyone who hears us, and throws a fit, many more hear us. They may hear what others put in our mouths, but some people will still come to u…
/r/MensRights14/08/17 11:00 PM
5

Why would it kill you for him to feel that way? Men do not emote in a vacuum. Surely you know this. So provided you don't give him reason to see you as you think we see women, what reason do you have to worry? You may "love" him, but he meets certain expectations you have, doesn't he? Would you still love him, and stay if he could no longer support himself? The fact is that individual instances will vary, but you still have the options in your relationship. You maintain control. That control wou…
/r/MGTOW14/08/17 10:39 PM
6

You mean the people you punch, might just punch back? Hmm. Guess the regressive shouldn't have started punching nazis...
/r/MensRights14/08/17 08:02 PM
20

Someone get her a bucket. Coincidentally, the noise of her throwing up may be her most intelligent contribution to this or any discussion.
/r/MensRights14/08/17 08:01 PM
6

Live free. Die hard.
/r/MGTOW14/08/17 06:01 AM
8

Ha. Doubt it. Women using a shovel? What sort of mysterious lost culture did you find?
/r/MGTOW12/08/17 06:19 PM
1

I was gonna suggest mario kart drunk driving with a few good buddies, but you don't drink. Which is cool. What about going out for some laser tag? Paint ball, or whatever. I've had to work almost every birthday since I was old enough to work. Sooo, fuck if I know?
/r/MGTOW12/08/17 06:16 PM
27

It's all about control. She's sick of manipulation and just wants to bark orders. In order to do that, you need something to hold over him. Like his kids, and finances.
/r/MGTOW12/08/17 06:11 PM
8

Gods damn it, if 80% of all women historically bred, and only 40% of men historically bred, what does that tell you?? You can't trust a bitch, I'd say. And single people might be less upset and lonely if you'd stop trying to sell your Disney bullshit, and left people the fuck alone. Or they can be smart, and figure out the truth. I don't feel nearly as shit after the red pill than before.
/r/MGTOW12/08/17 05:49 PM
2

No. No it doesn't. No cunt can be a dad. Period. And not just any man can be a dad. Why the fuck would I ever want to knock up some cunt, especially if she ever said this shit???
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 04:30 PM
5

Well! And we constantly get concern trolls bitching about us, bitching about bitches? I've never, fuckin ever, seen anyone here advocate mass shootings, or suffocating their daughters. Nor anyone else say "that's a good idea, you have good ideas, durrr." Fucking hell, I guess women going their own way end up in the bloody sewer. Who didn't see that coming?
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 04:27 PM
12

What's the point on marrying a woman who can clean/cook? (Being chaste ain't gonna happen now) Not like that shit is hard to do. Certainly not a full time responsibility. To hell with marriage, full damn stop.
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 04:16 PM
2

Well, to be fair most of what we got is ourselves too. Though we are at least decent enough not to make lengthy non posts being proud of trivial nonsense.
/r/MGTOW10/08/17 07:10 AM
7

Don't concern troll. If the guys here want to vent, let them. I don't give half a fuck what others see in this sub. If they don't like it, then fuck off. It's that simple.
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 08:40 AM
1

Science must be destroyed! It can't explain how I can call down the lighting to strike people, or make their milk go sour!! I am the greetest!! (intentional misspelling yup.)
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 06:55 AM
1

You can't. It's impossible. It's the law system that fucks us. Marriage to a lesser degree, but family law far and above that. So unless you're picking an unstable, alcoholic, drugged out nutter in hopes that you can pry your chemically messed up kids out of her grasp, I'd skip the whole damn ordeal. Aside from that, you can't do a damn thing. No fault divorce can be issued at any moment by either party, and most western countries don't fully honour pre-nups unless they "feel" they are equal. So…
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 06:53 AM
2

It's just conditioning bud. You'll get over it eventually. The nice thing is that these unconscious biases are much more effective when we don't pay attention to them. Just be mindful of what, and why you're doing whatever you do.
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 06:45 AM
2

Corrected farther down in thread.
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 05:58 AM
6

Yup. You're not wrong. World wide trials are supposed to start in 2018 as of link. That's their current problem I think. It's not ready of course and could be ten years away yet. But it is coming.
/r/MGTOW09/08/17 01:12 AM
16

Hey, if no man wants her, what makes you think some cat does? Lol
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 07:05 PM
3

It's not weird, it's stupid. The entire concept as you've outlined is ridiculous. If you can't help but masturbate for several hours every day during family functions and work then you have a problem. Full stop. Masturbation like literally everything else in the world is fine in moderation. All these no fap guys are doing is admitting that they have absolutely no self discipline what so ever. That's pretty damn messed up. Now I'm not going to go over there and tell them anything. They didn't ask…
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 06:04 PM
16

Dude, you refuse to fit in with the stereo type horndog bullshit. That ain't soft. It's just being you. You're not a guy with the mental fortitude of a fourteen year old who can't help himself when there's some tits around? Great. Neither are we. Good on you.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:55 PM
2

You're not wrong. A dude's a dude. I feel sorry for guys still stuck in blue pill thinking. Their lives are shit, and they're just trying to do what they've been told their entire lives. The problem is these bullshit ideas that get lodged into our heads as kids, moms, schools, tv and movies, they all reinforce this stupid service message until it just seems normal. It's wide scale brainwashing. I know lots of guys ain't gonna like being broke out of that way of thinking, but it's like seeing a l…
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:50 PM
8

The best way I can explain it based on my own observations growing up is that women do not comprehend the child as a separate individual from themselves. My mom for years kept trying to reinforce my behaviours and environment to conform to hers. She never let me play outside for extended periods, because I "hated" being outside never let me engage in rough physical play, climbing trees etc because "it's all so dangerous!" Got me into reading and legos because it was quiet and she didn't like it …
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:39 PM
6

More fucking attention whoring? I'm so sad you guys seriously I just want to die! Like totally, everyone pay attention to me. I get this may sound shitty, but who is the largest demographic bar none in suicide?? Hint, it ain't women. I've known way, way, too many men young and old who've decided to hang themselves, take a lead aspirin, or take the slow route and drink themselves to death. Fuck her bitching. Either shut up and do it, or be quiet so we can focus on the actual people suffering. You…
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:28 PM
7

http://www.parsemus.org/projects/vasalgel/ It's via injection into the vas deferens, not the urethra. Gotta correct myself. A second injection later will cause it to flush out of your system. I assume when you next ejaculate. The link tells more.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:16 PM
6

Yeah, but that's how a vasectomy works also. It's essentially a reversible vasectomy.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:10 PM
7

Hell yeah, sue the piss out of them! Join Hulk Hogan in taking down big bullshit peddling companies!
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:08 PM
16

Meh, PUA's may use red pill knowledge, but they do so for blue pill reasons. They still ascribe that the bullshit fairytale nonsense is still possible. All they have to do is try to become Chad, change every aspect about themselves, lift their frames or whatever. They're still stuck at the altar of pussy. I'd say they are blue pill.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:04 PM
9

It's not a pill, it's a gel that hardens in the vas deferens blocking off sperm from passage. It can be removed with ultra sound. At least that's my lame ass layman's understanding.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 04:57 PM
3

I'd say she has an attachment to you different than most anyone else, though it's still not love. It's a he's a part of me, so transitive property, blah, blah, Magic , he thus somehow is me, but not really. So I "love" him because I love me. It's some kinda weird perverted narcissistic amalgamation. Or I'm full of shit. I've still not put the whole thing together in a way that doesn't sound as strange as the relation of mother to son.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 07:58 AM
5

I'd argue he's using the gender neutral archaic "man" as in human. Now you say man in reference to mankind and every douche nozzle everywhere starts squealing "what about the wimminzzzzzz?!" If your quiet you can probably hear them now...
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 07:50 AM
2

Exactly. But then your options are stay in the poor conditions she's from (big fish, little pond) or you take her with you back to the west. And she'll be rather happy for a time. Maybe even loyal. But eventually she'll become accustomed to western life and culture. Then the competitions start. "That woman has (whatever) I want that too" this grows to the point that she becomes no different than a western woman. At which point she decides to leave, and here you are getting divorced just like you…
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 07:33 PM
12

Fuuuuuuck sakes. That guy needs a smack upside the back of the head. Or brain surgery. It's just occurred to me he might be brain damaged! Now I feel bad.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 06:21 PM
2

Good luck. I'm sure you'll do fine.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 06:15 PM
2

Hey I'm not saying don't have fun. Go ahead. Date, screw around, whatever. No big deal. Always wear a condom, always take it with you when you're done, never cohabit, and even if you really want kids be careful. Your only safe option would be surrogacy, and that's often illegal. (Here anyway). Never put yourself in a situation where you can get screwed over.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 06:06 PM
1

That's all I'm doing man. I love my grandad. I sneak him rye whenever I can. I'd love to go fishing with him again, but he's always reluctant to do so. The point is a good man can go his whole life doing everything for everyone else and all he gets is treated like an animal. I don't think she's ever hit him. I'd lose my shit if she did. But she emotionally abuses him terribly. And he refuses to leave. He's the only guy I'd be reluctant to bring up the red pill to. Can you imagine doing all of th…
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 05:50 PM
3

No problem man. There's lots more, but the point is across I'd hope. I don't want anyone in this situation. It breaks my heart thinking about it. So I hope lots of guys who aren't sure read this and maybe see what I've seen. Don't do this man. For your own dignity, just don't fucking do it.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 05:41 PM
4

You may, you may not. It's all going to be up to your personal experiences. I noticed in another response in this post you asked about love. Most of us don't believe that Romantic love exists. Simply there is no unconditional love. As you've acknowledged men have expectations, and those expectations have to be met. Otherwise you're not worthy of love, marriage, family, etc. Being depended on isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's huge handicap. And if you can't depend on her to help you, to car…
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 05:24 PM
2

Fair enough you do you, and if that's a suitable arrangement for you, then have at it.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 04:56 PM
3

And so when you bring women out of that environment and to one where they hold the cards, surprise the same thing happens. There are still very strict standards on both people in those societies. There are very strong expectations on the man to earn enough in a shit job market to support his family. If he doesn't, then he is insulted and ridiculed by the community as a whole, and the state will absolve his wife of her obligations. A different flavour of bullshit is still bullshit.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 04:47 PM
2

There is some misconception that western women are different from women. They aren't. Women are women. Anywhere you go, it's the same. The difference is that western cultures are wealthy. To the point where those women assume they have more options than poorer women. The base problems still exist in all of them. Hypergamy is everywhere. Gynocentrism is everywhere. Male disposability is everywhere. Those are the problems. Feminism is just a symptom.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 04:29 PM
1

He just won't stay gone!
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 03:32 PM
41

"YOU DIDNT GIVE ME WHAT I WANT! NOT A REAL MAN!! Waaaaaahhhhhhh" Screw off broad. Real men don't let useless shits like you tell them who or what they are.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 03:11 PM
4

Fuckin drive in movie quality projection.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 03:03 PM
4

It's fuckin Chad! God damn, broads like Chad. Even when he's dead and trying to eat them! (No not that way get your mind out of the gutter! Lol)
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 03:00 PM
10

Good luck with that, but I know a couple guys who did the same thing. Brought their wives back home. Less than a year and a half, they're divorced and she's got the kids, child support, alimony. It's not just white chicks. It's women. The legal system has weaponised them against us. Also I'd be careful with traditional unless you really wanna be a wageslave. That shit is no way to live. Never has been.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 02:19 PM
15

I gotta wonder how fucked up shit is gonna get. This certainly isn't the only case of a decent dad being shafted, and it finally resurfacing years later. How many kids are going to grow up hating their dads only to figure out it's their mums who were the architects of these shitty situations? Years of misplaced angst, feelings of betrayal, and to top it off the pure injustice of the father's position nine times of ten if not more. Makes me worry for lots of young adults out there. At least son's…
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 02:07 PM
4

Not being an ass dude truth is truth. We in the west aren't going to find a virgin to settle down with. Even if we could, she'd pull the same shit any other woman in the west can. Not worth it! Edit- it seems my phone doesn't even recognize the word virgin. Lol fixed it now though.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 01:15 PM
1

Man, that ain't even burn anymore. That's more like xenomorph blood! Lol. Hardcore.
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 01:24 AM
3

I'm all for having kids if artificial wombs become viable. (Pretty sure surrogacy is illegal in my country) what I'm concerned with however is that the vast majority of the public will never accept that being gynocentric is a bad thing. I could see male disposability eventually tapering off, but that would require an insane amount of tech. We'd essentially need to be post scarcity. The minute anything tough needs to be done, it'll be men who have to do it. I'm not all that ok with that. But I do…
/r/MGTOW06/08/17 01:22 AM
1

Oh I agree. And it's bullshit.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 11:39 PM
8

Exploration, learning, discovery, artistic creation, philosophic introspection, figuring out how much ice cream you can eat, or not a damn thing. That's the beauty of it. It's whatever you wanna do.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 10:18 PM
4

Daaaaaamn! Multi burn!!
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 10:14 PM
3

Yeah, I don't have any numbers myself, but I remember hearing that lots of women are involved in trafficking. Point being it's not a gendered issue. It's a disgusting shit head problem
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 10:13 PM
7

Get the ointment!
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 10:11 PM
1

I always thought it had to do with those women trying to one up each other. So the first chick tells her friends that you knocked boots. The others decide "hmm if she thinks he's worth banging, maybe I can steal him out from under her." Then it becomes a competition until they collectively lose interest. For whatever reason. Then, when you're not banging some chick the other ones notice and assume there's no social standing in their group they can get from fucking you, therefore they don't.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 07:55 PM
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Right, bud, no one can tell you what's best for you to do. Do whatever you like, but if your gonna mess around with some broad, protect yourself. Don't get caught up in a shitty situation if you don't gotta. As for being a virgin, don't be ashamed. Shame is a tool lots of people will try to use to manipulate you. And it's a powerful tool too. Hell, I didn't lose my virginity until I was 21. And it wasn't exactly as great as lots of people would make it out to be. I mostly did it because I couldn…
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 07:36 PM
1

I'm thinking it's because women can't understand a relationship where someone doesn't gain over someone else, without it being sexual.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 07:24 PM
3

It's all ridiculous bullshit. The entire point of culture is to create a sense of belonging trough shared practices, food, art. Anyone can take part in any culture they wish. Anyone who says otherwise is a damn fool trying to separate people for arbitrary and bullshit reasons
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 06:26 PM
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Hardest red pill? That gynocentrism, and male disposability won't end. It's too deeply ingrained, and our societies (Yes, all of them, west and east) are built on men being disposable. That was what sent me my own way instead of trying to change things.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 05:03 PM
2

This guy comes along and makes a post about how we are all pathetic loser types who need to man up and change ourselves to find women. Because we are so sad, pathetic, whatever else he's got for shaming bullshit. Then immediately deletes his post and runs off. Dude, if you're gonna come in here and shit up the place, at least have the courage to stand by your shit.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 01:48 PM
1

Why the fuck would I want to get the attention of any woman? What does that do for me? It's not nothing, but it's all negative. You wanna chase broads, go do it and leave me the fuck alone. Yeah there are shit men. I don't care. I'm not looking for any partner Go lift your frames or whatever.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 01:43 PM
1

No. Wow. That was easy. Lol
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 01:30 PM
1

Meh. Mostly thinks I hate women. I'm not sure what she thought when she asked if I would date a chick with a kid. Of course I said hell no, why would I want to have to support some other guy's kid?
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 01:29 PM
8

Face, meet palm.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 01:15 PM
1

Yup. Caladan Brood is a very active character in Malazan. They sound awesome by the way.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 11:56 AM
1

I've only read a few of the Berserk books (is it books? It's my first manga so hell if I know) I freaking love that series. It's amazing to see the flip from the incredible "I'd die for you bro" flip over to "I will stop at nothing and kill or destroy who or what ever gets in my way while I go to annihilate you". If you like dark shit, both series are great. I'd say Malazan is maybe a little less dark, but not much. Malazan does have an army of starving peasant cannibals who eat the enemy alive,…
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 05:24 AM
12

Yeah, exactly. Why platonic friendship has to be turned into erotic nonsense in people's minds is just damn ridiculous.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 03:03 AM
5

No prob, friend.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 12:18 AM
30

The series is called The Malazan Book of the Fallen. It's a bit of a slow start, but the second book really put a hook in me. It's ten books in total, all over 1000 pages. The exchange above happens in the eighth book Toll the Hounds. The author's name is Steven Erickson. I highly recommend it if you like dark fantasy.
/r/MGTOW05/08/17 12:07 AM
1

Well, you can polish a turd all you like, but it's still a turd, right?
/r/MensRights04/08/17 10:26 PM
12

Ah, but he's not a gentleman. If he were, he most certainly wouldn't be associating with a skank who'd say something like that.
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 10:21 PM
3

No, not quite. The Middle East is shit for everybody. Men too
/r/MensRights04/08/17 10:02 PM
2

But who's gonna drive it?? I thought chicks weren't allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia.
/r/MensRights04/08/17 10:01 PM
50

I remember reading a fantasy series a while back. Great series. Anyway, there's this barbarian type guy who almost never gets along with anyone, high conflict etc. He's been followed by a desert witch for a long time, they're both headed home after he confronted an immortal emperor (immoral and batshit insane) on another continent. They eventually meet another warrior on his way to meet someone he's vowed to confront for a long time. They are both solitary wandering warriors who don't speak much…
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 08:41 PM
7

Have they ever known it anyway? Most I've known can't even figure out loyalty.
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 04:33 PM
2

Well, better than an enormous pile of shit is a smaller, less smelly pile of shit. As you said, why sacrifice what we could have for ourselves in order to work ourselves into an early grave to support some broad to wash the dishes, do the laundry, and burn some food? (I'm not sure why, but most guys I know are way better cooks than the women I know. STOP OVER COOKING THE MEAT!) More of the me, me, me bullshit. Well, sweetheart. We don't give a fuck what you want. How about what WE want?
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 04:30 PM
1

Thanks bud.
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 04:07 PM
14

No! Don't fuck em! That's what they want! Lol
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 04:05 PM
7

He's not wrong!
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 02:04 PM
21

It's a retarded feminist convention that any men who share a close bond must be secretly gay. They've expanded it to historical figures also and have been doing it since the 90's. Divide and conquer I suppose? The only irony is that being called "gay" doesn't sting nearly as much as it used to way back then, so it's just stupid now.
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 01:58 PM
13

Really? You can't find a "good guy" TM. Anywhere? Maybe it's because years upon years of advancing the cause of women at the expense of men has resulted in a shit tonne of mediocre broads who think they're top tier, while actively stunting and socially maiming men, leaving many who would have excelled without the chance to do so? And I'm supposed to what, feel bad for you? Fuck off chick, fuck you and the fucking horse you rode in on.
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 01:50 PM
3

Socially left. To a point. I don't give a fuck what you do as long as you don't affect anyone else negatively. Financially conservative. Keep spending under control, encourage small business and individuals to make money, small taxes, small government.
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 01:23 PM
1

Look dude there's a chance that you found a unicorn, that it'll all work out, and you won't get fucked over. But keep in mind, SHE HOLDS ALL THE CARDS. You have kids together and separate? She's gonna get the kids 80-90% of the time. Then she'll get the house because it's "the family home" she can go to a court house, claim she's "scared" of you to get a temporary restraining order against you, and use that to make certain she's gonna get custody. The fact remains, no matter how good she is, she…
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 01:15 PM
1

Cool. All interesting stuff!
/r/MGTOW04/08/17 03:50 AM
2

Sweet. You can't go wrong with metal, my man!
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 09:01 PM
2

I keep trying to learn to read Ancient Greek, but it seems just as I'm making progress I end up having to work more overtime, or get sent away for more training and have to study more. I'll get there eventually! I'm sure you'll figure it out! Also I hear Czech beer is some of the best around! I always wanted to try some. Maybe one day.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 09:00 PM
3

Cool. I have no idea how to do any of that! So you've one up on me, lol. Keep on plugging at it, I'm sure you'll get that moment where it all clicks. I had one of those while going over technical drawings for a machine at work. I was getting all excited because I could see it work in my head, then I figured out its some specialty item I likely won't see again. Lol. Oh well, was still cool.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 08:56 PM
3

I get that. Not so much picking your battles as "do I really want to deal with this person freaking out when I point out their idiocy?" Keep on keeping on dude.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 06:11 PM
3

I wouldn't say I'm anti social. Certainly non social though. I'm fine on my own for long periods of time. That being said, if a couple of my best buds wanna hang out, play some games, have a few drinks, BBQ on the deck or whatever that's cool. That's about it though.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 05:27 PM
3

Easily explainable. They want hot, nasty sex with some ripped, takes no shit Chad. Probably involving some weird shit. So if anyone learned about it and was disgusted, she'd have plausible deniability. "It's not my fault, he made me!" Cause, everything is always someone else's fault.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 05:15 PM
3

Looks like MGTOW+ to me. How long until its warped by the PC police?
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 05:12 PM
12

That's just the thing. It's not even objectification. That would be looking at a smoking hot chick, and having the same response you'd have to seeing a lamp stand. The vast majority of dudes ain't looking to plough a piece of furniture. Buuut, I think it's chicks projecting. They just see men as walking ATMs with a dick on em. You'd probably get similar reactions if you put a real ATM on a skateboard, glued a dildo on the front, put a hat and a fake moustache on it, then rolled it down the stree…
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 05:08 PM
7

Would I buy some drunk broad a couple apple juices for seeing tits? Nope. Seen plenty of tits, and they're free on the internet. Apple juice = worth more than tits in this decade! Lol. Maybe if I was 15 and hadn't jerked off in 3 hours.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 05:01 PM
10

They're claiming it's because men their age date much younger than them, thus they are left with the dregs of their age group. To which all I'd say is, who initiates divorce the vast majority of the time? Maybe they shouldn't have done that??
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 02:07 PM
11

Poor wimmenz can't possibly know the consequences of her actions! She needs to be saved from herself! Now put these shackles on and get to work. /s Keep looking for that "hero" broad. Ain't gonna be me.
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 01:48 PM
5

We aren't here to win. Or to fight them. We're the ones deciding this crippled and corrupt empire isn't worth saving, and thus wandering off in small groups. When the end comes, we won't be there to stop it. Maybe there will be something better we could build from the ashes. I appreciate the efforts of those who want to change the system, but I'm not sure it can. So in short, sure hate as much as you want, but I'm not jumping in the trenches to defend a society that hates me and sees me only in …
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 01:44 PM
5

Maybe. Just as long as they stop worshipping the pussy, who gives a fuck?
/r/MGTOW03/08/17 12:34 AM
5

She was your everything? Found your problem bud. To hell with that, and her. You got yourself a shitty broad. Though to be fair, Unicorns are called that for a reason. (They're not real)
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 11:36 PM
4

The guys you see hating on women tend to be new. Recently burned by a relationship, or divorce. Or new to the "red pill" philosophies. It's important to let them vent and not shit on them. It's part of grieving their lost world view, and their old identities. Some may stay angry for a long time. That's their choice ultimately, but it's not necessary to be MGTOW. We're not a group identity after all. It's simply a gathering place for like minded individuals to discuss whatever they want or need t…
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 11:32 PM
3

Respect yourself, or wreck yourself I guess? Fuck. Ain't no snatch anywhere worth that sort of self degradation.
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 11:20 PM
1

So, it never occurs to her that she's a six possibly despite her looks? The hottest chick around drops real fast in the scale if she's a straight up cunt.
/r/MGTOW02/08/17 01:49 PM
1

Then pull your head out of your ass and go look for it. No one here is your secretary. The Violence Against Women Act may be a good place to start.
/r/MensRights31/07/17 05:30 PM
1

Sorry bud, but what you've been sold isn't love. Love is always conditional with women. No two ways about it. There's a reason the ancient cultures had arranged marriages. Because marriage was a business contract to pool resources. Love like anything else needs to be built. It takes a long time, requires good parts, and maintenance. The problem is with current Disney/ princess bullshit. It seems most of the population believes that a solid life long bond should be instantaneous. That they should…
/r/MGTOW31/07/17 01:23 PM
4

Good. Throw the book at her. Hell, throw the whole library.
/r/MensRights27/07/17 04:27 PM
13

And who's fault is that? The women for engaging in behaviour they supposedly don't want, the state which actively discriminates against men and for women in post secondary education, or men because reasons?
/r/MensRights27/07/17 04:21 PM
4

Or that more acts now count as violence. Such as Internet words! Oh no, the terrible internet words...
/r/MensRights27/07/17 04:14 PM
1

They think they're on a whole different social level than any man, educated or otherwise. So they assume their bullshit shouldn't matter. Virtues like kindness, caring, and helping are beyond them now!
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 04:12 PM
1

Well, you know what they say. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 03:58 PM
3

I can appreciate the message, but "work can set you free" never set any of those people free. Unless you mean being worked to death. Then sort of? Not the freedom I want though.
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 01:05 PM
10

Pre-nups are not certain depending on where you are. The Government of Canada for instance says it can overturn any contract if both parties do not have equal bargaining power. Pre-nups therefore are often overturned. Don't do it dude. Not worth it.
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 12:54 PM
31

No one disagrees, but I recall an incident in France where a man was sued for neglect of his wife's sexual needs. She won too. Just another case of double standards. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2033972/Jean-Louis-B-pays-9-000-damages-lack-sex-marriage.html Maybe men should also have the right to say no?
/r/MensRights27/07/17 12:30 PM
23

Deluded idiocy. Same old nonsense.
/r/MensRights26/07/17 10:20 PM
5

Ugh. Gods damned hippies. Someone get the Slayer!
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 08:35 PM
7

Yeah, but as a consequence of banging in a swamp. Maybe not a STD, but pretty damn close lol
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 08:01 PM
20

Yup. It seems the men of Eastern Europe were paying attention and aren't sticking around for that I guess.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 07:37 PM
47

Wow. Soooooo. Degeneracy?! I mean when penicillin can't control your STDs I think that's an appropriate label. Plus a swamp?! Who fucks in a swamp?? Aside from Becky here.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 07:32 PM
3

They're called cannon fodder. Make female only battalions. No reason that only the men should suffer in a muddy ditch.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 06:55 PM
1

You're not wrong. Female nature is one thing, but nature can be overcome with proper behaviour enforced from childhood by a strong, wise father. (Mothers don't really teach. They manipulate and shame. At least in my experience.) So when a man just lets this shit happen it greatly contributes to the problem. Of course the family courts can be used to take your kids from you as a man. That's why it's better to not do any of it. If you can't do something right, then don't do it at all.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 04:34 PM
1

They certainly are bud.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 04:11 PM
30

You know, that's a good point. I do enjoy the peace and quiet. I do enjoy being able to go out fishing or hiking when I want. I do enjoy the meals that I cook for myself. And I do enjoy caring for my stuff. It's good to be going my own way.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 04:01 PM
28

Also that women are better in every way. Oh! And men aren't getting into Uni because they are terrible at everything. It's also kind of funny when he hits the whole "if women would date down socially, then there's plenty of men. Except that the women shouldn't have to!" At which point I like to imagine him wimpering as all the pissed off "educated" chicks corner him. Then the "we all have those perfect friends (female of course) who just can't get a man!" I'd like to point out that if they were …
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 03:55 PM
3

Incel is "involuntarily celibate". But as long as what your doing doesn't impact me, keep on keeping on.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 03:17 PM
38

Wait! Men cherry pick models in online dating? That's a load of shit so big it's gravity well will trap the sun.
/r/MensRights23/07/17 08:09 AM
2

I remember growing up I was in a military based after school program. I ended up the 2nd in command as everyone else was a woman or girl in authority. I think they made me 2nd so I could be the disciplinarian. Anyway, point of the story is that almost none of those girls back then understood respect. I worked pretty damn hard to make it to where I was. I put in lots of extra time training the younger kids in marksmanship and survival training among other things. One of the girls stared around th…
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 01:50 PM
2

Well, there may be a slight misconception. MGTOW isn't anti bitch. MGTOW is about understanding the beast so you don't get gored by its horns. We are rather more negative than most spaces towards women and there are a multitude of reasons for that but in the end it's the state that has weaponized women against us using their own primitive drive for resources and genetic "alpha" men. In the end porn allows us to cater to our biological impulses to breed without actually having to do so. This allo…
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 01:16 PM
1

Yeah, the interconnections of Greek myth are awesome. As you referenced Icarus, the Athenian hero and mythical founding king Theseus was the one who later was sent to the Labyrinth, and with the help of Minos' daughter killed the Minotaur and escaped the Labyrinth.
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 02:30 AM
1

Yeah. Minos kept a sacred bull from Possiden. This pissed him off so she was made to be attracted to the bull. I wanna say Zeus had part of it, but I'm not 100% on that. Greek myth is pretty messed up.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 08:00 PM
1

Though it does make that Greek myth about the Minotaur a bit more hilarious. I seem to recall the wife of Minos had a similar device so she could get it from a bull. Then BAM! Minotaur.
/r/MGTOW19/07/17 03:19 PM
5

Well, when I cook I usually look at what I got then try to make a meal fit what's available. Who plans meals weeks in advance? If I want pasta, then I make it. Curry? Make that. Steak? No prob. It's only if I want to make something new that I need to go get stuff. In short. Hurray for non issues.
/r/MGTOW18/07/17 01:38 PM
9

I'd think that we'd all agree that the safety of children is of great importance, but false accusations wether mistaken or intentional are extremely harmful. So I certainly share your concern over accusing people of pedophilia without evidence.
/r/MensRights17/07/17 01:18 PM
1

It's ok. If all the feminists stop drinking milk, they'll have piss poor bone strength! We'll be like titans in the face of their frailty!
/r/MGTOW15/07/17 03:06 PM
13

Shitty on their part wether her friend was a lesbian or not. You're not a piece of meat for their amusement my dude. On the positive, she is your ex. Congrats.
/r/MensRights15/07/17 02:51 AM
1

Getting pretty hard to take academia seriously when this sort of utter nonsense is what we keep hearing. Quick!! Someone commission a study on why cheese is sexist! It is of vital importance...
/r/MensRights15/07/17 02:48 AM
5

Shockingly accurate and astute!
/r/MensRights15/07/17 02:46 AM
2

It's like Cartman once said "Drugs are bad because if you do drugs, you're a hippy. And hippies suck." That was always the best reason not to do drugs. Also yes, greasy dummies constantly high telling you how bad alcohol is, and pretty much anything else more technologically advanced than a piece of lettuce. Most likely while on the newest smartphone. Ugh. They annoy me so much.
/r/MGTOW12/07/17 01:58 AM
19

And I imagine that some "woke" eight year old said some politically astute bullshit? And then everyone had icecream? Fucking hippies and their ridiculous delusions.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 01:19 PM
12

It's not uncommon to feel bad for the plight of your fellow man, as a compassionate man should. Still, I get where you're coming from. She is your sister too. Funny how she plans to leech off her guy and that's cool (not you specifically, just in general) but if he did that, well I don't think people would be nearly so understanding.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 12:59 PM
2

Just a prissy backlash against MGTOW. That whole childish "oh yeah! Well, I never even liked you any way!" Sort of nonsense.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 08:28 PM
3

AWALT. Even when you think not. Even when you think she's special, different, or unique. No matter what she tells you, or what anyone else says AWALT.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 07:54 PM
5

Not previous. Other generations. The previous one, or the next one. I can bet they blamed the baby boomers about something or other. Point is it's all a waste of time.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 07:35 PM
2

Yeah. That's the best idea. Like being shot. 4-5 times is better than once. Lol
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 07:14 PM
3

Wow. I think it's a genetically engineered super cuck. Shit dude.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 07:04 PM
3

Sounds about right.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 07:03 PM
2

Afraid not. It's gonna collapse before that shit goes down. Women may want something like that, but men won't agree. I doubt all women will want to get their hands dirty trying to force men to do anything, let alone succeed. The more likely scenarios are that they'll recruit some men to try to keep the others in place. Then violence of course. Either they succeed, and institute an open tyranny, they fail and/or back off before trying something so heinous thus continuing the status quo, or shit g…
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 06:55 PM
1

Now, more than ever, it's important to find something past the anger and the fear. Increasingly it must be found within yourself. This is where I'm finding the wisdom of the ancient philosophers vital as never before. I've always enjoyed the works of Plato, Aristotle, Marcus Aurelius, and their compatriots, but after the red pill, it makes s whole different kind of sense. Aurelius' Meditations is a great example of what I mean.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 06:38 PM
5

To be fair, I do only want one thing. To be left the hell alone.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 06:28 PM
13

Probably? Point is I don't care. I don't care what you see in the media, or on the internet. You ever take a census to determine how many millennials are these things you list? Or how many people from other generations take part in that lunacy? No, I didn't think so. Bitch all you like, but feminism was popularized under baby boomers, and nearly everything on your list is either derived from or against feminism. That's not millennial's fault. And feminism came from sexist and racist suffragettes…
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 06:24 PM
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Show me a single generation that doesn't throw another under the bus. Millennials aren't any worse than any other generation. You just keep seeing the outlandish bullshit from the rich ones. Everyone likes a good train wreck after all.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 05:52 PM
1

You're certainly not wrong.
/r/MGTOW06/07/17 05:37 PM
1

Good for them. Not true here though.
/r/MensRights06/07/17 04:03 PM
2

It's widely accepted enough that plenty of non religious families to it to their sons. Wether or not it's accepted, it's happening.
/r/MensRights06/07/17 04:01 PM
5

So basically straight men don't have the right to say no sexually? And people wonder about why men are pissed.
/r/MensRights06/07/17 01:39 PM
19

The blatant double standards. I was talking with my mum one day about how entitled some people are. Namely a discussion with a woman I know who was getting pretty worked up that some guy wouldn't stop to change her tire for her. Anyway, was telling my mum I wouldn't stop for her either. Nor most any other woman with a flat. Good gods it's not that hard to change a tire. That's basic shit you ought to know to drive a vehicle. Even if you don't there's damn pictures showing you how to do it. Mum s…
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 10:53 PM
13

The Bronze Age forerunners of the ancient Greeks, the Minoans were largely matriarchal from what I've read. To the point where they didn't even build defensive structures. They didn't last long or make nearly the impact of Athens, or Sparta which built the foundations of all western civilization. And yeah, they were extremely patriarchal.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 10:18 PM
2

Yup. It's a common cliche from years and years ago. I think it's because they know they can't compete with a true friendship between men.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 10:15 PM
14

I remember taking Aristotelian Ethics in uni years ago. There was such a huge emphasis on the greatness of friendship between men. Namely that between men of equal status. It was one of his highest virtues and he wasn't wrong about that.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 10:13 PM
1

Their seeming morality for their children is actually narcissistic. They often act empathetic, but it's under the guise of "if I was this child, this is what I'd want." Sympathy then. I think very few women realize that a kid is an independent person from them. It's weird.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 09:47 PM
9

That alpha bullshit is nonsense. All that effort and time spent trying to "keep her under control" when she, I, you, and anyone who isn't a deluded fuck knows she's got all the cards in her hand. I don't got the time, I don't want the stress, and I won't have that liability on my hands. The only marriage in my family to last is my grandparents. In both cases my grandmothers have emotionally abused my grandfathers. So best case, it lasts long enough that I'm retired and she constantly belittles m…
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 06:21 PM
7

I think it's so big because more and more new guys keep coming across MGTOW. So that would lead the sub to being constantly stuck in the "red pill rage" phase. Couple that with guys more experienced with the lifestyle participate less and less as really there isn't much to talk about after the rage phase. At least that's how I look at it.
/r/MensRights05/07/17 05:39 PM
4

Yeah, that's true. I'm not blind to reality. Just saying that it's really messed up.
/r/MensRights24/06/17 02:07 PM
1

Indeed. Almost as though it's not a punishment.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 10:11 PM
40

This is not ok. It's damn sickening that a man has to be killed before anyone even bats an eye.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 09:30 PM
10

Loose and breezy! The best kind of freedom. That and pants are just awful. Right on. Good to see these lads stand up for themselves. No one else at their school is going to.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 09:25 PM
2

And only made the complaints years after the height of his fame? Fishy as hell to me.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 09:22 PM
7

So. She nags and badgers a guy into giving her a bunch of money, multiple times based on "bank errors", the guy wises up and stops giving her money. So she assumes the identity of her roommate, tells buddy that she was sent to jail for defaulting on a false loan. Gets friendly with him all over again. They eventually exchange nudes, which she then uses to blackmail the guy for everything he's got. Only stopping when buddy has enough and goes to the cops. And she gets ordered to pay back 18,000$ …
/r/MensRights23/06/17 09:22 PM
2

Wow. I think reading that almost gave me cancer. I see the witch hunt is out in force at Slate. Seriously you guys! 60 women accused a guy of rape! It's just gotta be true! Even reasonable quotes about the ever changing nature of sexual assault law are being twisted into bullshit.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 09:06 PM
1

No. I don't. I never said that anyone deserves being tricked. I did say people have a responsibility to protect themselves. You're saying they should stay ignorant so bad shit can happen to them and you can cry about it. Like a twisted, virtue signalling vulture.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 08:14 PM
1

"> There are always scammers, so you should learn their scams and not fall for them." "Absolutely. If you fall for them, it's your fault. We shouldn't even really prosecute scammers at this point, since it's not their fault you fall for their shit." So why bring up this then? We shouldn't prosecute scammers because it's not their fault? So a red herring then. Seems you got nothing to stand on either, aside from moral grand standing, and a victim complex. Where as I prefer preparing guys for the …
/r/MensRights23/06/17 07:48 PM
0

And my point still stands. Are you suggesting we involve the government in everyone's personal lives because some people are shitty, treat others terribly and lie?? All to protect someone's feels? What's next, listen and believe?
/r/MensRights23/06/17 06:47 PM
0

That the legal definition is it? Since we're talking about punishment and all? I doubt it. Unless you are suggesting that we criminalize lying.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 05:10 PM
2

Indeed so. Changing the window dressing on a shit system from centuries ago is no change at all.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 04:35 PM
1

Explain to me how some broad leading a gullible guy on is a scam? It is deceitful certainly. But a scam? No. Further I never said that scammers shouldn't be charged. No one should steal from your house either. They would be charged and punished if they did. So you shouldn't lock your doors when you're not home?? Your virtue signalling bullshit of "no one cares except me! Oh those poor guys" isn't helping anyone. And your ridiculous desire to portray people as victims when they aren't is blatantl…
/r/MensRights23/06/17 04:31 PM
1

There are always scammers, so you should learn their scams and not fall for them. Everyone slips up from time to time, but not recognizing you fucked up and wanting everyone to feel sorry for you while making no effort to learn from your mistakes is pretty damn sad. More importantly, its dangerous.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 02:41 PM
1

I get that. I'm of the same opinion. Doesn't help living in a feminist run hell hole either.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 02:37 PM
2

Oh, they are people. And it sucks to be taken advantage of. The point however is that there will always be cunts trying to take advantage of guys like that. So your best defence against being treated like that is to recognize that agreeing to being treated like that is not ok. If that means we gotta hold the guy to a standard of behaviour so be it. It's for his benefit in the long run so this doesn't happen in the future. Empathize with him sure, but don't enable his behaviour.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 02:33 PM
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I think it's just a list of possible and/or questions to get the ball rolling. Not sure that OP assumes all female MRA's were feminists. Karen Straughn arguably one of the most famous female MRAs was certainly never a feminist.
/r/MensRights23/06/17 12:50 PM
2

You do have a point. 2016 is certainly more current year than 2015.
/r/MensRights22/06/17 01:06 AM
13

Well, you see. Back in the far off time of 2015 in the old reckoning. A dipshit who was the new prime minister of Canada was asked why he arbitrarily appointed half of his cabinet as women. Now he could have answered that they were qualified. (They weren't.) or that he was a rabid feminist. (Truthful so no.) but in his great wisdom he said "because it's 2015." Like it was a thing. This became an excellent justification for almost anything in good old internet land. Until it became 2016! Then we …
/r/MensRights22/06/17 12:43 AM
2

True. Their arguments fall flat to more and more. Less and less people will even entertain their insanity.
/r/MensRights21/06/17 11:56 PM
2

Thank you. I hope so too. Hopefully it gets better for everybody sooner or later.
/r/MensRights21/06/17 11:18 PM
2

With any luck. Hell at the very least Canada can be the warning to the rest of the English speaking world. And despite what our media says, we are most certainly not happy about it.
/r/MensRights21/06/17 10:59 PM
1

If things don't change then that may well be what happens. The high road is nice, but when the government can control how you speak to others, or take your kids away, well. People will not stand for it.
/r/MensRights21/06/17 10:45 PM
1

I get what you mean. I grew up in the nineties too. The height of violent crime in the US. But we didn't hear too much about it as kids. Because that wasn't for us yet. We didn't know enough to form our own opinions. Freedom is certainly taken for granted. Canada as well as the US. and now instead of understanding basic rights as "freedom from" now people are saying they have rights to things. I'm afraid not. Rights should always be negative because then you cannot tyrannize others. What would t…
/r/MensRights21/06/17 10:30 PM
1

Exactly so. It's some animal farm level bullshit. We're all equal, but some are more equal than others. It's pretty fucked up.
/r/MensRights21/06/17 10:12 PM
1

Exactly. You always hear about shouting matches in parliament, but it's never mentioned on our news networks. His entire term has been nothing but idiotic blunder after idiotic blunder. I remember when he had that town hall meeting in a small town in Quebec. He answered an English speaking woman's concern about adequate mental health care in english in Quebec in French and refused to do so in English. That pissed of almost everyone. This new law is magnitudes of levels more disgusting. I thought…
/r/MensRights21/06/17 09:50 PM
2

I think as well as the previous prime minister was doing, Treadeau pandered to everyone across the board. He won Atlantic votes by promising to build new ships for the navy in their ship yards. And those poor buggers need work. He appealed the the political old guard in Quebec and Ontario by trying to stick with his dad's reputation. In the west, it was a combination of legalizing pot, and Harper's lack of a plan beyond the TPP. Which wasn't very popular. I live in the west, so I don't have a go…
/r/MensRights21/06/17 09:36 PM
1

It's bloody hideous. At this point nearly anyone would be better. I'd like to know how a prime minister who has dumped us into incredible amounts of debt, and actively passes legislation that infringes on the rights of all Canadians, while having the damn gall to lie about it to us hasn't been called out on it by the damn media. Further his numerous trips and speaking engagements with private audiences for large donations. How the hell hasn't he been kicked out yet?
/r/MensRights21/06/17 09:24 PM
2

Yeah. I can see needing to suppress freedom of speech/the press in short instances like the allies had to in immediate preparation for the D-day landings, but we are certainly not in those circumstances now. The US ended up recording their rights as part of their government and as part of making a new culture for their nation. We much as the British relied on hundreds of years of English common law, which was largely unwritten and based on the Magna Carta. Along with the slow movement from absol…
/r/MensRights21/06/17 09:13 PM
2

The Charter recognizes that even in a democracy, rights and freedoms are not absolute. Section 1 of the Charter allows the government to put limits on rights and freedoms where the limit: is set out in law pursues an important goal which can be justified in a free and democratic society pursues that goal in a reasonable and proportionate manner Section 33 of the Charter, also called the notwithstanding clause, allows Canada’s Parliament, provincial and territorial legislatures to pass laws that …
/r/MensRights21/06/17 08:50 PM
2

You'd think so but even our charter of rights and freedoms allows for "rights" to be infringed upon if it is in redress to a previously oppressed minority. It's kinda fucked. As I get older I get a little more jealous of the US constitution and its original spirit. At this point our government is trying to throw away the Magna Carta and all our most valued liberties. At this point I'd vote for anyone who would repeal all this crazy governmental interference on its citizens private lives. Somethi…
/r/MensRights21/06/17 08:40 PM
2

Yup. Got that right. Good to know that freedoms aren't important here in Canada.
/r/MensRights21/06/17 08:19 PM
19

Current year strikes again. Or is it current year +2?
/r/MensRights21/06/17 08:18 PM
2

I wonder how much longer until I can flee to Poland as a political refugee? This is getting ridiculous.
/r/MensRights21/06/17 04:05 PM
3

Doing my part. Just about 2 years now.
/r/MensRights21/06/17 03:06 PM
31

No. Any horse will kick someone or thing that comes up behind it. It's a reflex. Like that dude who popped out of a recycling container and got knocked out in response. That's why new people are told not to approach a horse from behind.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/06/17 04:20 AM
1

What if he didn't know how he felt about it? We don't know the time scale here, but it sounds like this was done very quickly. He might have thought he would be ok with it, and it is her decision so no discussion needed, then after it happened he might have started to realize what this abortion actually meant to him. If he had this realization after the abortion, then why bring it up? On top of this he was certainly depressed, wether or not he knew that. I know when I was depressed I didn't thin…
/r/MensRights18/05/17 05:08 PM
2

I get what you're saying. I got many socially liberal values also, but I'm financially conservative. Trying to find both in a candidate is damn near impossible. The only viable way may be to try to form a new political party with these sorts of ideals/platforms. Either the other parties will see who the people are voting for, and change accordingly, or the new party would establish itself permanently. I could see both as a win.
/r/MensRights01/05/17 01:47 PM
3

That is also the case throughout the western world. So instead of voting for those who support your interests, you'll have to vote for those who aren't against your rights. Don't be afraid to tell your MP's/MLA's what you want to support also.
/r/MensRights30/04/17 03:44 PM
13

Wow. So the New York Times is using the "you make me hit you" defence? The left keeps looking more and more like an abusive partner.
/r/MensRights30/04/17 01:34 AM
14

Well, New Zealanders, now you know who not to vote for. Remember to write your local MLA/MP, and let them know that overturning hundreds of years of legal precedent under English common law doesn't sit well with you.
/r/MensRights30/04/17 01:32 AM
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It's not least prioritized, it is the longest stretch. Society at large understand that fathers have some worth. Or at least did in recent memory. Reproductive rights have never been available to men, full stop. So maybe some think let's try for what is easiest to do first. Seems logical.
/r/MensRights30/04/17 01:30 AM
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Well, thanks!
/r/MensRights28/04/17 07:23 PM
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Yeah. That was a good one. They like to throw tantrums often it seems. I like the clip where Alex Jones invaded their show at the RNC. good stuff.
/r/MensRights28/04/17 07:07 PM
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Oh? How so? The stereo type certainly is. The misguided liberal arts majors vegan constantly being smug about everything as they wait tables into their 30's. But there are normal millennials too. I got a decent job finally, as there isn't much good paying work where I live. It's a good trade, lay offs are rare. I grew up on a farm, and know about dangerous work. My uncle died in a farm accident when I was in highschool. The point is it's piss poor parents who lead to the stereotype of millennial…
/r/MensRights28/04/17 07:05 PM
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Agreed. Hopefully in the near future people will be much better educated on the topic.
/r/MensRights28/04/17 06:47 PM
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Indeed. Very hypocritical of the government and society in general. I'm still of the opinion that a grown adult that is given every opportunity to educate themselves should be responsible for their choices. I think if a woman decided she wanted to get circumcised then that's her issue. I don't think anyone should demand their partner mutilate their genitals for marriage, but if they do, and their partner agrees, well. It's their choice. A very stupid choice in my opinion, but their choice none t…
/r/MensRights28/04/17 06:45 PM
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True, but he made the decision. Even if he made it poorly, it's on him. I'm all for education about circumcision. But in the end, the guy's gonna do what he wants.
/r/MensRights28/04/17 06:40 PM
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As much as I'm against circumcision, this was a 34 year old man. He's an adult who can make informed decisions about his body, so I don't really think this is much to comment on.
/r/MensRights28/04/17 06:32 PM
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I'm not 100% that the term legal abortion is effective. The point is that a man should not have to fund a child he doesn't accept as his own. The child will exist wether or not he accepts it, so how about Paternal Recognition, or something similar. It would be more accurate.
/r/MensRights31/03/17 01:32 AM
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Funny how it's bad when he doesn't want to be in a group of women, but it's plenty ok for certain other groups to keep men and women separate in their mosques.
/r/MensRights31/03/17 12:33 AM
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And now we know who not to bang. Thanks for being a bigoted piece of garbage in public.
/r/MensRights30/03/17 01:53 AM
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True enough, but I'd prefer she offed herself and let the kids be.
/r/MensRights27/03/17 10:57 PM
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Entirely so and I agree. He has no reasonable response to that so instead he responds "you're all just racist!" And now he need not listen to anyone saying something he doesn't like.
/r/MensRights12/03/17 09:33 PM
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Ahhhhhhh. I see. So you're just a racist fuck! Only whites hate the religion of Islam! That's clearly what you believe. Maybe you should talk to the Hindu people on Bali. I know they aren't particularly fond of Muslims because of inter religious violence. But I'm sure you can blame that on the white devil some how.
/r/MensRights12/03/17 09:27 PM
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Implying that the only relevant criticism is Islam isn't white enough?
/r/MensRights12/03/17 09:14 PM
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Lol. Someone doesn't like Muslims. "WHITE SUPREMACIST!!" Couldn't be because someone doesn't like their religion? Also in case you're confused, Muslims are not an ethnic group.
/r/MensRights12/03/17 09:10 PM
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Good to know the value of two little boy's lives who were murdered. This was a callous and premeditated crime by the evidence outlined. This is an absolute miscarriage of justice.
/r/MensRights10/03/17 11:53 PM
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Where do men go? There and nearly no shelters, while there are thousands for women. If men attempt to take their kids from an abusive relationship they can and often will be charged with abduction. If they leave them, it's considered abandonment and they lose custody. So all that happens to women does it?
/r/MensRights25/02/17 02:17 AM
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If there should be a women's empowerment movement, should there not also be a men's empowerment movement?
/r/MensRights25/02/17 02:09 AM
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Yeah, your point about not generalizing is noted. Most people here agree. But as has also been pointed out the intent of the person who generalized is still understood. Plus using "don't generalize because etc." Is often used to derail conversations around topics such as male victims of domestic abuse. That's called tone policing, and it's not well appreciated around here. It's also sometimes called concern trolling. Given how hard it is to distinguish between the two, it's usually easier to let…
/r/MensRights25/02/17 01:55 AM
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Disgusting, isn't it?
/r/MensRights18/02/17 05:19 PM
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The point I'm trying to make is that the religion argument doesn't make sense for circumcision. No argument makes sense really. But this is regarding those who insist it's a religious right.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 04:27 AM
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Yup. Exactly so. Currently they are allowed. But that doesn't make it right, nor morally justified. And if that's against any religions morals, then that religion either needs to change, or be left to rot with all the other ridiculous nonsense. I'm sick of religion being any kind of argument on this issue
/r/MensRights15/02/17 04:24 AM
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Exactly so. And the source of the problem. Yet we won't allow children to be tattooed, or receive most sorts of cosmetic surgery. As this is considered child abuse. Yet mutilating a boys genitals is allowed because religion? I find it a piss weak argument, and so not worth considering.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 04:19 AM
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What, treating women above and beyond men? Did you assume they would do any different? I mean maybe the U.S. to some extent, but here in Canada? Nooooooope. Just regular old stuff here. Nothing to see folks!!
/r/MensRights15/02/17 02:03 AM
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And should I refuse? Then what? What if even just half of men refuse to do so? Or even a smaller number. Say a quarter.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 01:48 AM
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Simple. We have freedom of AND FROM religion. It doesn't matter what religion you're raised in, as there's no certainty that you'll stay in said religion. So there is no reason to mutilate a child because religion. If they're that determined, let him make his own choice at the age of majority, so he can fully comprehend his sacrifice to his god. I fail to see how that would be anything less than reasonable.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 01:24 AM
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Being a bit generous with "benefit" I think.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 01:19 AM
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Bloody hell, I had no idea that even that far back some very wise people saw through feminism's nonsense! A very pleasant surprise. Now only if more had listened.
/r/MensRights11/02/17 03:22 AM
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"As visionary as Dworkin" And I now now where to file this horseshit.
/r/MensRights07/02/17 03:59 AM
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It's great the they are making an effort and encouraging masculinity, but it seems that there is a lot of propaganda for the state involved, plus the emphasis on chivalry and make disposability seems somewhat troubling to me.
/r/MensRights07/02/17 03:51 AM
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Indeed so. I largely agree there are no certainty that rights will follow respect or vice versa. So as far as I'm aware, the best thing we can do as men is simply to stand up for ourselves and not cling to labels. Let people judge us by the content of our words and more importantly, our actions.
/r/MensRights04/02/17 12:10 AM
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They also live in the savannahs. So what? We're humans. And it's not like the kid got to choose her lying piece of shit mum.
/r/MensRights03/02/17 04:34 AM
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You're free to respond here, and you're free to have your opinions. I might go so far as to say those are your rights. But if we as men have no rights, then we truly are screwed because we have no respect either. Do you think people who were well respected would all be painted with the same brush? Made out to be violent, abusive, primitive brutes with no control over our own instincts? That mothers and fathers would tell their daughters that all boys are tainted, and want only to taint them too …
/r/MensRights03/02/17 04:07 AM
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Interesting and worth considering. I'd add blue collar workers in there too. I think it boils down most to that un named protagonist having nothing left to lose. Consider John Wick. A very dangerous assassin does nothing out of the ordinary until the very last thing of importance to him is taken away. (Trying to avoid spoilers) Or Rambo: First Blood, another man with nothing left to lose, and the rampage he goes on when he is treated unjustly. This seems to be a common theme among pop culture wh…
/r/MensRights19/12/16 03:21 AM
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I don't really see any need to ostracize them. Inherently they don't want to change the system anyway. Really the only unifying aspect of MGTOW is the emphasis on self interest. There is no organization. There is no lobby. There are just a bunch of people on the internet, a portion of whom talk excessively about women. Let them do their thing. No need to start tone policing others.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 09:43 AM
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To be fair here, yes there are a lot of MGTOW fellows who spout off some real hateful stuff. Most of them have a reason or three to think so. But the ones that gather to keep talking about it over and over are just stuck in the angry cycle. MGTOW as few to no real strident principles, beyond as a man you should live your life for yourself. Lots argue about marriage both for and against. That being the closest to a driving principle of MGTOW and believe me it's not exactly agreed upon either. I f…
/r/MensRights14/12/16 09:04 AM
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Ah you've never heard of it happening! So it can't POSSIBLY be true! And I've never seen a black swan, so those can't be real! And I've never seen the curve of the earth, so it MUST be flat. Yeah. I get it.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 08:30 AM
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Actually it more goes like "why haven't you cum yet? it's been forever" or "why can't you keep hard with a condom on, are you just trying not to use them?" Or "do you not think I'm attractive?!" Or "what the fuck, are you gay or something?" And a bunch of other shaming tactics that leave a real negative feeling towards sex. And the few times I've tried to explain why I have trouble in that way, then it's "oh yeah right" or "that's total bullshit, stop lying" or "well my ex was cut too and he nev…
/r/MensRights14/12/16 08:13 AM
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