Rahim556 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
66	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing	CMV	Rahim556	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 08:56 PM
46	The way a woman performs oral on you and kisses you speaks VOLUMES about her true feelings about you.	CMV	Rahim556	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/20 02:57 AM
24	Article about Section 8 assumes applicant is a women		Rahim556	/r/MGTOW	28/01/20 03:04 PM
9	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post)	Question For Women	Rahim556	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 05:57 PM
9	Why is single motherhood so prevalent, when women know the consequences of it, and when it seems so easy to avoid in this day and age?	Question For Women	Rahim556	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/20 11:53 PM
6	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women	CMV	Rahim556	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 10:18 PM
4	Do other womens' opinions of a man you are interested in matter?	Question For Women	Rahim556	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/20 02:04 PM
2	D-Count ≠ N-Count and the Fallacy of the Hypocrisy Argument	Discussion	Rahim556	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/23 02:41 PM
1	Would you rather share an attractive male with several other women, or have one ugly man all to yourself?	Question For Women	Rahim556	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/20 11:39 PM

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0	Crying ‘used’ means you know deep down you didn’t pass the test every other woman cleared. Because the female mind is so twisted nowdays, they think "dating them" is a superior outcome as opposed to NSA sex hit it and quit it. The modern woman believes she is so special, even when mediocre at best, that she believes the guy who she's charging more (who's getting less) is actually getting a better deal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/25 03:46 AM
3	I lost a girl in a beach party to another girl. I know. But in that moment he could have claimed her (even if just for the moment or the night) and he didn't. The other girl cut in on them, and basically took her from him (if only for the moment or night).	/r/TheRedPill	03/04/25 05:10 PM
4	I lost a girl in a beach party to another girl. Asserting authority. It's no different than looking him right in the eyes while pissing in his (former) territory. She stole and claimed his bitch from him.	/r/TheRedPill	03/04/25 05:07 PM
10	Stop saying "just be yourself" to men "Being yourself" is horrible advice. This is actually a very philosophical topic. What actually is "yourself?" I go to the gym, watch what I eat, do cardio, etc for my fitness and my health (so for both looks and longevity/quality of life). Do I enjoy lifting something heavy and then putting it back down? Do I enjoy running, placing one foot in front of the other, for miles on end, while sweating and being uncomfortable? I do enjoy the benefits of it. But I can't say that actually moving the wei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/25 06:55 AM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here They're just not getting it. It's about standing out in a positive way relative to other men around you. It's why average guys who go to the Phillipines who at 5' 9" they tower over other men do well. It's why the drug dealer does better than the same exact guy who doesn't have access to drugs. It's why in the military the Army Ranger has a higher status than the Army mechanic. The Navy SEAL is higher status than the guy who swabs the poop deck and scrapes shit off the hull, even if they're the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 09:35 AM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here Not nonsense. Women don't find some guy who sits in a cubicle in a suit for 40 to 60 hours a week exciting. The guy who plays in a band, the guy who just got out of prison, or who just beat a murder case, the Navy SEAL, the Hells Angel member, or the guy who's a DJ in a popular club has far more status than some office drone who wastes most of his life "banking."	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 09:17 AM
2	Status is the most important but most widely misunderstood topic here "Status" in terms of shit women actually care about is stuff like being a popular athlete, actor, musician, influencer, thug, fratboy, partier, or nonconformist maverick..... ...even serial killer. Thats why James Holmes (the Aurora theater shooter) has a shrine of pics in his jail cell, with thousands of letters, from young women who simp for him and put money on his books. Before attaining his "status" (fame) he was just an unattractive nerd type. Now he's an unattractive nerd type with "statu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/25 09:13 AM
3	Just be what they want Maybe a fat girls looksmatch is a muscular guy with an ugly face and receding hairline. So a fat girl's looksmatch is Jason Statham? Lol....no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 07:54 AM
10	Women Don’t See Themselves as Abusers—Physically or Sexually. That's one of my favorites. The old "You made me mad," excuse. Zero accountability.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 04:58 PM
–	Society Was Better off When Female Preferences/attraction triggers Were Kept in the Dark Idk who the rest are You've never seen the movie Titanic? It's Jack, played by Leonardo DiCaprio.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 06:53 AM
-2	Society Was Better off When Female Preferences/attraction triggers Were Kept in the Dark I went the hardest on Jack because there was much to criticize. He was the only child porn producer/distributor & child rapist. Rose should marry whoever she wants, I'm not pushing for the rich guy...the guy was a simping pussy anyway. I'm just pointing out Rose's behavior for such a degenerate as Jack.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/25 01:41 PM
-5	Society Was Better off When Female Preferences/attraction triggers Were Kept in the Dark Many of those "heroes" have been changed (precisely to make them more attractive or interesting) or they aren't heroes to begin with. Thor: this guy was literally the black sheep of his family and became a binge drinking alcoholic. Also, he beheads ppl with his axe 🪓 . Superman: character was completely changed from "mild mannered Clark Kent" (unattractive) to the current mysterious, brooding character, who is more of an antihero, sometimes even villain, who Batman must prevent from destroying t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/25 04:24 AM
–	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics No. That is an assumption you have created out of thin air. There's a world of difference between a 17 year old girl and an 18 year old woman. Firstly, the 18 year old is an adult and the 17 year old is a child. The 17 year old kid lacks the ability to consent, as any other child does. A 10 year old is closer to the 17 year old than the 17 year old is to the 18 year old, as one category includes little kids and the other full grown adults with agency who can do porn, join the military, etc. Most…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 02:00 PM
2	How have women evolved with hypergamous selection if they haven’t had a choice in their mate until modern era? Even cavewoman "Ugga" was secretly lusting after the hunter caveChad "Chug," and planning to monkey branch up from gatherer BetaBerries "Ug."	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 11:23 AM
–	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics also, maybe a little bit off topic, but I think men who are so fixated on this stuff are pedophiles. What a downright fiendishly slanderous assumption. I think this whole pedophile deal needs to be banished to the Pits of Tartarus once and for all. This conversation is about legal and biological adults. You're essentially saying "I think men who have a completely normal preference for a certain age range of sexually mature, legal, consenting women are secretly attracted to little children." It's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 10:29 AM
5	Men of all ages prefer women between 18-30 simply because it is their physical prime, absolutely nothing to do with manipulation or power dynamics It's not that once a woman hits 30 she becomes worthless. It's more like "her prime was 18 to 25, and some other guy(s) got her in her prime instead of me, but now she's ready to 'settle down' with me, past her prime (after having her fun)." That is what men want to avoid. So Red Pill men, who properly have applied Red Pill and gotten their LMS up to acceptable levels to be desirable to women and have options, tend to go for younger women in their prime (because they have the option to do so). A…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 05:04 AM
3	Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards? That's Giga Chad, not standard issue M1A1 Chad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 01:38 PM
1	Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards? they wouldn’t get a ton out a guy that doesn’t get them going on sight and the risks can’t out weigh the benefits of hooking up with a total stranger. So what do they get out of it? Lousy sex with no orgasm from a stranger, all the risks that come with getting intimate with a stranger like you mentioned, only for what? Validation? Women shouldn't be getting validation just because Chad masturbated inside them like a human fleshlight, because that's not an accomplishment and they already know thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 05:28 AM
3	Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards? Never commit to Chad's leftovers. Never be a betabux.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 05:14 AM
4	Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards? But they still SLEEP with Chad. This is the issue. Women devaluing themselves and being Chad's slut for the night, becoming damaged goods/leftovers for the guy they do end up with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 05:10 AM
1	Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards? It is. I don't mean just fit. I mean fit and lean with a 6 pack. Going to the gym daily, picking things up and putting them down, cut/bulk cycles, etc aren't the natural state of men. Being fit from walking and lifting, hunter gatherer activities, construction workers, etc are what I would consider natural. Anyway, my point is men must go above and beyond, so the fit, attractive, successful men are far more of a commodity than a young, slim, feminine, cute woman....as a young, feminine, slim, cu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 05:03 AM
-4	Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards? Being young and slim is a natural state of women. Almost every woman can be young and slim and even with a normal face be considered attractive. They ruin themselves by getting into an unnatural state (fat) and then of course because they're fat they then age horribly and are unattractive. Men have to work to get to an unnatural state (fit and rich) and can never work to be tall. So a slim, fit, young, attractive woman isn't all that special. Every woman was one at some point (or could have been…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 01:35 AM
–	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Well to be fair, every man? No. You're right there are extremely outliers and exceptions such as swingers that think it's hot for another man to be with his woman. These are the extreme minority, and to debate a topic like this (or most topics) it's most helpful to deal with and discuss the general stance, or the majority,not the fringe minority. So every man? No. Most men? By and large yes. And this is because generally men are possessive,jealous creatures. We are territorial. We are essentiall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 01:27 AM
–	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD It's not that they "don't care," it's that men select based on their options. If a man only has access to 2 or 3 different women, and all of them are sex and the city sluts living their best life, he will likely choose from that pool, while coping and telling himself that he doesn't mind that the woman he ultimately wifed up to spend his life with and have children with swallowed some random frat bro at a party 5 minutes after meeting him. He cares. It's just something he cannot change, so he (b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 01:22 AM
–	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Thats true. And honestly ppl should ultimately do what they want. You're right it doesn't actually make them gay...gay is attraction to men. I guess what I meant moreso was that its kind of taboo for a man, shameful even. Not that there's anything morally wrong with it. But it's pretty shameful I think for friends/family to hypothetically find out a person has that kink as opposed to others, just because of how it looks (the man is essentially switching roles / positions to be the "receiver" of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 01:08 AM
2	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Exactly. Sex with women almost doesn't even count. Let's say a woman has sex with 20 women. She's essentially still a virgin. Maybe virgin with an * next to the word. But 1 man will take that title away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 01:39 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Hell yeah they count. The person has a dick, and the dick is even involved in said activity. It's not the risk of STD per say, it's the fact that the women gave or derived pleasure to another person with a Y chromosome	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 01:35 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Well yeah. I mean, I guess it wouldn't make him gay. It's just "questionable" activity or something like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 01:33 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Older men aren't in their prime physically...at least potential wise. When a specific man will be in his prime will vary. Let's say he wasted his 20s and early 30s being fat and lazy, but then by 36 he's gotten his act together and looks like Brad Pitt in fight club, he'll be at his prime then. But he could have been at his potential peak probably at 27 or so. I don't think anyone would argue that men are physically prime at 35 or 40. But the combination of things women care about (Looks, Money,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 02:47 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD I never said 35 or 40 was a man's physical peak. But in his late 20s to early 30s, so probably around 27 to 33 he's physically at his peak because he's had time to lift. He's certainly not at his peak at 18 or 20.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 01:47 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Nice. Knowing nothing else about you, you at the very least have a high degree of credibility in my eyes, and are respectable as a lady. No man has defiled you with his filthy member. Your future husband (if you marry and save it for him) will be very happy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 02:59 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD This is not realistic for the vast majority of men. Women at that point will be just about to peak (at their highest value) and the men will be just starting out and be at their lowest value. It's a mismatch. It might take a man 10 years or so before he gets up to the level she's already at. This is why men have (traditionally) dated younger women. Less of a mismatch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 02:53 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Doesn't matter. He has a Y chromosome.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 04:05 PM
2	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD That's a pedophile Lol, no. And no, according to me most men are not pedophiles. Where did you extrapolate such a disgusting and fiendish lie about me from my comment? According to me (and every psychologist and medical association known to man) men are not pedophiles for finding an 18 year old hot. Pedophile is a phillia, meaning a psychiatric disorder where men are attracted to children. If all men are pedophiles then none of them are. Lets leave the kids out of this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 08:54 AM
2	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD It's very relevant. It's not. Because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Why would I believe you that men care when life experiences tell me otherwise? I already explained, it's not socially acceptable. It's taboo. You're far more likely to get mens true feelings in an anonymous internet forum. 16 year old boys are attracted to 16 year old girls. 🤷‍♂️ Yes they are. And 80 year old men. find 18 year olds attractive. Men's attraction largely remains static. So for example when a man i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 08:41 AM
2	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD I've never discussed a number of sexual partners with any man. That's irrelevant. It's not considered socially acceptable for men to care. So they pretend that they don't. It's also not socially acceptable for men to find teenage women hot, but they do (en mass). This is biology. Men not having broached topics that could label them a social outcast or have them condemned does not mean they don't care. For most of human history, and even in today's world in non western countries men married virgi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 08:25 AM
2	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD What I've seen is that some men online care. Men care period, full stop. Barring extreme outliers/exceptions like swingers or whatever. But when it comes to reality, nobody cares. They care. Men i mean. Men definitely care. If they tell you they "don't care" it's one of two things going on: 1) hes gaming you, telling you what you wanna hear so he can sleep with you 2) hes desperate and doesn't have the luxury of caring (but he really does care)	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 08:10 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Nice. You're on to something here. And yes 1N>>>>>> 1 million, billion W	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 08:06 AM
0	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD How about a guy who makes a girl come using a dildo but not his penis? Adds to D count due to new definition (see below) How about if it's girl-on-girl? Doesn't count, no one with dick in general vicinity. Fingering from a guy? Counts, person with dick involved Fingering from girl? Doesn't count, no dick within 100 meters radius Taking a fist up the ass? From girl, doesn't count, from guy it counts (dick nearby) D Count: Sexual activity with a person with a dick (man)	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 07:59 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Don't know. Maybe not d count because it's not an actual dick. What i do know, however, is that makes him gay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 06:59 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Nice. They don't like to hear the truth and they wanna downvvote me. I'm just the damn messenger.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 03:17 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Find the exceptions then. That's my advice. Keep in mind this advice applies to men generally at a decent level and pretty well rounded. His LMS must be at a minimum above average. Because finding a woman like this can be difficult.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 03:07 AM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD So my question to you is, how do you expect to find women who think dicks are disputing and degenerate, with the exception of yours? How do you expect to find a woman who protects herself against male sexuality but will enthusiastically have uninhibited sex with you? This is general “you,” not you specifically. Traditional women. Many women want to explore their sexuality (as this is natural), but they don't go out there and do it because it's shameful in their culture or because of their morals…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 02:56 AM
0	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD What I find hilarious is that with logic like this we can understand that men find their own selves shameful and disgusting, We find dicks shameful and disgusting, yes, this is the truth. Idk what "subconscious implications" or whatever this implies, but this is widely agreed upon by the vast majority of men. We make an exception for our own dick, but others will devalue women. This is nature	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 02:39 AM
2	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD I'm talking wifey material. Yes whores have been around since time immemorial: since Ug discovered fire 🔥 and used it to get laid. As far as hot promiscuous girls, still hit it and quit it....or hit it, keep hitting it, don't wife it up, and split it when something worthy comes along. I'm merely disappointed in the levels of degeneracy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 03:49 PM
2	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Think about it: Girls used to save their holes for their husband (all of them). Then they started blowing guys and doing anal, still saving their pussies for future husband guy That morphed into still blowing guys + now giving up the pussy, and saving the ass for future husband guy Nowadays, they wanna be wifed up and can't even save a lousy 💩shitter💩 for their future husband.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 03:43 PM
0	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Of course. Anal counts for n count, but some chicks will not count "only a blowjob", anal, or anything other than PIV, due to them (disingenuously) using the definition of n count as "person you slept with" and then playing the Bill Clinton card / definition. D count ("taking a dick") closes said loophole. But I need to adjust it to: any sexual activity with men (M Count, if you will)	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 03:39 PM
2	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Point taken. You're right, they'll use this as a loophole just like the "poophole 💩 loophole" (which this rule closes). I'll have to formulate an ironclad definition that closes said exit valve.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 03:26 PM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD She ghosted because it was too low bro. The Rule of Three. Generally accepted that men will inflate numbers by multiplying × by 3, so she assumed your real count was 3 (or 4 max). The reverse is true as well. She admits to 7 it's really 21 (women divide ÷ by 3, don't count "only a blowjob", don't count "I was drunk," etc).	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 02:42 PM
-1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD N-Count: the number of people a person has had sex with (broad term, doesn't just have to be hetero PIV sex) Now, let's further specify a sub classification of n-count, which is "d-count," and let's define that as well. D-Count: the amount of dicks a person has been on the receiving end of (ultimately this means the amount of men you've slept with) With these definitions in mind, now let's address some common discussion topics. First and foremost, you'll notice that n-count and d-count are not t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 02:32 PM
–	Women can't complain that men voted for Trump, men are just sticking up for themselves lol. He cares about his rich powerful buddies like Elon. By voting for trump you actively made half of the female American population less inclined to want to date men BS...women will still date men if they're hot 🔥. So what do we learn from this? Two things: 1) Be hot 🔥 2) Don't be not hot	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/24 09:19 AM
0	Do women look down upon their husbands/bf I’m so glad I married a man who doesn’t have these sex hangups, it sounds so depressing. So glad my man can live out his porn fantasy with me - and that I can live out like with him! That is a good way to look at things, I admit. And I would think that most men would certainly want a woman to have this attitude. However, going back to the OP's scenario about casual sex and all that, do you not see, that from the man's perspective, the casual sex guys got for "free" what husband had to "pay full …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/24 03:36 AM
1	If You Were Chris Hemsworth… OP yes I think similarly to this as well, in that my test is slightly modified. I always used "Brad Pitt in his prime," but the meaning is exactly the same. Would she or wouldn't she for Bradd Pitt in his prime or Chris Hemsworth and so on.... Absolutely yes, she would. So if she won't for you, then there's an issue, because the goal (at least "goal" in terms of interactions with women) is to have her going crazy about and submitting to you, just as she would said A-Lister super hunk.	/r/TheRedPill	16/08/24 11:32 PM
1	This is very anecdotal, but as a man, i miss the attention, do others also? Firstly, I'm not patronizing. And you're right we here on Reddit don't know your life or situation or anything about you. All we have to go on is what we see and do know. And the comment was made with that in mind. I agreed with the commenter that your conduct was a bit different (and refreshing) from the usual, so I pointed that out. You can agree or disagree or whatever but we can drop it because I feel you're getting upset, and there's no need for all of that. Oh and secondly, and this is off…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 05:25 PM
2	This is very anecdotal, but as a man, i miss the attention, do others also? It's definitely character development and growth. You normally would NOT take responsibility or take a step back to think about and to realize that the commenter had a point. The "old you" would have doubled down and dug her heels in, further and further entrenching herself into her position. This is a good thing. Hopefully you're turning over a new leaf. Edit to add this: Oh and btw I'm not implying you're the only one or women are the only ones who need to grow and have character development. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 05:08 PM
7	Q4ALL: How would you react if you found out your son was... You would disown your son for believing that mate competition and human sexual dynamics are tricky, but possible to successfully navigate if you have the right information, and as such, men should focus their growth on looks, money, and status to increase their desirability...? I doubt you would disown your son for believing that. Because that's what Red Pill merely is: the information that looks, money, and status are the best things to maximize (as a man) to be attractive to the opposite sex. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 05:35 PM
1	Can women be “squares” 1312 "Yes, EVEN your dad."	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 04:58 PM
-3	What are the benefits of marriage for women? No, but they will enforce compliance of whatever "they" (the court system, backed by men with guns / cops) decide, because the government now has become the final arbiter in these two ppls lives. So hypothetically, a woman marries a man and has children. A man does something to piss off the woman enough to where she wants a divorce. Now he is at the mercy of the court, who can decide things like alimony, splitting of assets, child support (which is often excessive and benefits the mother), child…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 03:40 PM
-3	What are the benefits of marriage for women? Men with guns and the potential to use state sanctioned violence to force compliance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 03:23 PM
2	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? "Be hot" would not be the advice or the extent of the advice. A boy should be told something along the lines of: "Son, women like men who have nice bodies. You're a man, and you're gonna have to accept the harsh reality of being in for years of picking heavy things up and putting them down. See your sister over there? She just has to not get fat and she's good to go. Not you son, you're a man. You have to lift weights. It's just the world we live in so accept it." And then make sure he gets star…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 05:34 PM
2	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? I'd prefer not to think of anyone I'm in a position of adult power over getting anyone wet and certainly wouldn't advise them on the subject. That's exactly my point. Mothers don't tend to give their sons good dating advice because they don't come into the scenario viewing their baby as a sexual being who wants to have sex (which is a natural desire/drive). So they give the advice of being nice and all that, but the FIRST thing a man must do is capture a woman's interest/attraction. This is most…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 05:13 PM
3	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? "Being kind" and all that doesn't get girls wet. The question was about dating advice. "Dating" is done by men for the ultimate end goal of sex. It's the reason (straight) men don't date other men or their buddies, because ultimately, at the end of the road, they're wanting sex. So that's why men date (for sex). So the question about "dating advice" is really asking how can this young man be sexually successful with women. Now that we've established what the question is truly asking, I again rei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 03:58 PM
3	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? Of course your raise them to be healthy and happy and there's lots of things to teach them. But this topic was about dating advice. The best thing you can do to maximize your sexual success with women is look good, as that gets you past the first disqualifier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 03:44 PM
6	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? Why? We have the formula. We know what works. Why withold knowledge that would greatly help your child instead of hoping they learn it (which may take years, or may never happen)?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 03:04 PM
1	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? I agree social skills are important. But I think if you look good, you will most likely naturally have a social life and in turn build social skills and have a social life. Ppl like attractive ppl. Ppl want to date, be friends with, hang out with etc attractive ppl. So all that comes from that. It's rare to have a fit, attractive, well groomed / well dressed boy that isn't popular or at least somewhat popular. It's much more common for social skills to stagnate BECAUSE someone is viewed as unatt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 02:56 PM
1	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? Yes it's hugely important. Especially with the crap food and diets that are so common here. I think a lot of mothers (naturally) view their children through rose tinted glasses. They see their son as handsome and all that. It's not about a mother viewing her boy as handsome, it's about is he attractive to the opposite sex. These mothers that think their boy is handsome and good looking (but he's chubby and does nothing but play video games) wouldn't even date him if they were a girl his age, but…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 02:27 PM
3	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? I should have mentioned healthy diet habits as well. Because someone can "play sports" but still not LOOK GOOD.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 02:18 PM
10	Women, how would you or did you prepare your sons for dating? Yes, because they fail to see their son as / realize that he will one day (soon) be a sexual being. So they think it's "cute" that he has chubby cheeks or whatever, and they see him as their "handsome, strong little man" when in reality he's not being set up to be attractive to women. Look at some of the answers here. Tell him to "be kind, honest, have interests" and "have and maintain a social life." That's all good and well. But it won't get him past the LOOKS THRESHOLD to have a girl like him…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/23 02:00 PM
3	Dark Triad Traits are the best quality to have to attract women, for long term committment and loyalty But even if we let's say prevented their names and stuff from being released (hypothetically), the point is women still cream their pants over these guys because dangerous / violent men are hardwired into their lizard brain to be attractive. They just don't want to admit it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/23 08:02 PM
2	Dark Triad Traits are the best quality to have to attract women, for long term committment and loyalty Yes, James Holmes the Aurora Colorado theater mass shooter has a shrine with pictures and love letters pinned up in his jail cell. He has hundreds of attractive young women writing to him and putting money on his account. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sdut-fan-letters-james-holmes-released-2015sep12-story.html Check out that link. Also, check out what he looks like. I doubt he had women creaming over him before he killed a bunch of ppl. But soon as he does he has …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/23 07:39 PM
2	Are many pill men looking for monogamy/marriage? Why can't you? She doesn't feel the same way?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/23 09:17 PM
2	Are many pill men looking for monogamy/marriage? That community info on the first link is quite a trip. "STFU!!" "Lift weights!" "Don't fail the shit tests!" It's like some sort of sci-fi nerd fanbase. :D Is that bad advice? It's saying lift weights (to stay in shape, which is important for maintaining attraction in an LTR), STFU (as in don't complain, and stoically accept the high standards you must maintain), and don't fail her shit tests (as in maintain your masculine image and always have her respect you as a competent leader). I see that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/23 09:09 PM
–	I don't understand why those fake "bad boy" dating profiles work I think you're moreso picturing a controlling man who beats you. Of course women wouldn't like that. But dominant men (leadership, competence, confidence, masculinity, etc) with a capacity for controlled violence if necessary (towards other men/potential threats) are most definitely a turn on for many women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/23 09:52 PM
-2	CMV: Foreign brides make better wives for American men than American women do and American men make better husbands for foreign brides than foreign men do (from that same country). Couldn't have said it better myself. Their shaming tactics are known and accounted for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/23 04:32 AM
2	Why would studies show straight men and lesbians are more likely to be fat than gay men and straight women? When do men constantly assert this? We are very open here that yes looks is first and foremost for us, and along with looks comes "don't be fat." Looks, youth, agreeableness... The Big 3, if you will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/23 04:19 AM
4	There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women. But my point is even with all the differences between you, you both likely still like the same thing: tall, attractive, confident, physically fit men (Chads). This whole women aren't a monolith thing only goes so far. In general, women are attracted to the same general things, regardless of their own personalities. So the attractive cheerleader and the introverted bookwork girl both like the same football captain Chad. The less attractive bookworm may end up with a nerdy "unconventional" guy, bu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/23 12:15 AM
6	There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women. Sounds like you want a woman who is into shy guys. That's probably going to be a shy woman Lol, no. Even the shy bookworm girl is pining after the confident and outgoing Chad. Women are attracted to different things than men. In general, men tend to be attracted to feminine traits and women to masculine traits. And shyness is not a masculine trait, so even shy girls aren't gonna think shy guys are attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/23 11:21 PM
–	There is VAST chasm between the amount effort required to secure a partner that is reasonable for a healthy realtionship, between men and women. You think a man can use the same “technique” on me and the Mormon? GTFO. Yup.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/23 11:13 PM
3	CMV : Women underestimate the sheer effort and time towards looking like a big muscular gym bro, which is why they say they don’t like gym/muscular guys Yes, but you're saying you don't like their actions and assumptions you've made about their personality. The question remains tho... Are they hawt? Is Henry Cavill or Brad Pitt in Troy or Fight Club attractive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/23 02:25 PM
5	Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundance Would you consider yourself Red Pilled? Because you seem to honestly acknowledge the truth of women's sexual selectivity, which is a core Red Pill belief, and not sugar coating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/23 06:40 PM
3	I think the red pill is morally wrong in almost every aspect. You can't even improve yourself and up your game nowadays without it being labelled "manipulation." This is ridiculous. Is going to the gym and looking your best "manipulation" because it "manipulates" women into finding you attractive? Is taking your financial situation seriously "manipulation" because it "manipulates" a woman into finding you as a man who has his shit together? Red Pill is information about women and what they find attractive. A man can use this for whatever course of action h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/23 05:20 PM
7	Are women actually attracted to toxic men? Yes, because tingles. Attractive assholes are superior in the eyes of women to unattractive non assholes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/23 06:03 PM
1	Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your Attractiveness Nice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/23 12:16 AM
1	Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your Attractiveness but man would it shut a lot of people up if they could see what my girlfriend looked like. Nice. So she's pretty hot then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 11:43 PM
3	Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your Attractiveness I agree there are other things that impact a person's body. For example, a person on medication that "makes them gain weight." But when this side effect is listed (weight gain), it's a dumbed down version. The actual medication contains no energy, so it does not cause fat gain. Body fat is energy, and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, and the medication is not energy. What it might do is "increase appetite," which may make a person decide to eat more due to this increased appetite, which g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 11:27 PM
3	Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your Attractiveness The facts are : body fat isn't controllable But that's just absolutely a false statement. Have you never known a single person in your life that has gone on a diet (restricted their caloric intake) and lost body fat? We have thousands upon thousands of documented cases like this right here on Reddit, with evidence in the form of progress pictures, and entire subs dedicated to documenting this. Body fat "being controllable" means the following: we can increase it (at will) by eating at a caloric …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 11:13 PM
2	Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your Attractiveness Bodies and health are no laughing matter to me. I just found it funny how you took a position, the commenter made a very informed statement with facts to back it up. And then you dismissed his comment and addressed nothing he said while still claiming your position, but without explaining your reasoning. It's the equivalent of "Trust Me Bro." If you have some secret information that we, and I'm sure others in our hypothetical reading audience could benefit from, don't leave us in suspense! Let u…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 10:59 PM
2	Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your Attractiveness It is far more complex than "controllable". Lolz And that's science Lolz It's weird the focus is always on calories. I didn't even mention calories. Calories didn't even cross my mind. Lolz I just thought it was funny. Because scientifically, it is. Lolz	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 10:50 PM
6	Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your Attractiveness Agree. Men can't just "not be fat." That's not really good enough. Men have to have some muscle on their frames while being lean. So they have to have muscle and be skinny (lean) at the same time. Women can just "not be fat" and we find that great. Also, I strongly agree with your post in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 10:40 PM
2	Isn't this red pill thinking? Girls will choose attractive jocks over quiet nerds, even if they are equally misogynistic. Don't know. I'm not the one who espoused that formula. I was merely asking the commenter for more details regarding said formula (Scribbles in notepad)	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 09:30 PM
–	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Sure....	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 08:50 PM
–	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Bye Felicia	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 08:49 PM
–	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Bye Felicia	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 07:46 PM
–	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Yes you did	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 07:45 PM
11	Isn't this red pill thinking? Girls will choose attractive jocks over quiet nerds, even if they are equally misogynistic. Where does Quasimodo who treats a girl excellently fall into that formula?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/23 02:41 AM
4	ICK Discussion Thread Yes I understand. And I believe this is one of the reasons a lot of women don't like Red Pill. Because a guy who does all the work to be High Value isn't "naturally High Value", he just grinded it all out with sweat and determination and commitment, which in itself is admirable, but again it's not "natural," and I feel a lot of women don't like the idea that a man can level up just through sheer determination alone and basically throw off the balance of where they classified him initially in the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/23 05:18 PM
10	ICK Discussion Thread So it's true then? Women want "naturalz" correct? Is it the same when a guy is fit because he works out and watches his diet, but let's say left to his own devices and if he didn't he would be out of shape? The guy who is just naturally fit and shredded is superior in the eyes of women over the guy who has to work for it, because the guy who has to work for it is "masquerading as a guy with good genes..." Would you agree with this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/23 03:51 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread But she did. Would you like a source on that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 10:20 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread A man is sexually assaulting his woman right in the middle of the street and right in front of him and the guy does nothing about it. Are you serious? The man will lose respect in that situation because he's expected not to "allow" that to happen. Modern humans may be "enlightened" in many ways, but some things operate on a base and primal level. Many women will readily admit to losing attraction for a man like that, and there was a commenter in this thread who admitted it. To be clear, I'm not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 10:06 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread You're right. I can't be any clearer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 09:59 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Of course he has. And he will continue to bag hot women. Give anyone on the face of the planet the same stats and they will bag hot women. But he's still Blue Pill and displays Beta traits. I'll give you an example: letting his drinking get out of control as well as his temper. This is weakness. Alpha men should display strong leadership traits and never display weakness like this, and they should always be leading and setting the example. So yeah, he can bag hot chicks forever. But he needs to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 09:31 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread What I'm saying is he's Brad Pitt, he has ultra high levels of LMS, of course he can fuck multiple women. But he has weaknesses that are exposed once women get in relationships with him. On paper, he has everything going for him. He's not Red Pilled. He's just a natural giga Chad. But he doesn't display Alpha behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 09:24 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Bitcoin currently trades for just under $30,000 per coin. Plenty of guys made serious money off of it. It's considered a far more risky investment than traditional investments, but the results are actually quantifiable and real (can be converted to actual cash in your hand). The comparison is not a good one at all to astrology, for example, and believing ppl with certain signs (based on position of planets) are more compatable or susceptible to displaying certain traits.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 08:44 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Getting your ass kicked can trigger the ick yes, depending on how ungracefully you get your ass kicked. But refusing to fight is always going to trigger far more ick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 08:33 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread It just is what it is. Women can say whatever they want and front, but it's a fact that a man who won't get violent when she thinks he should get violent will dry up the pussy and she will lose respect for him. It has to do with lizard brain 🦎 and wanting a protector. Even women who think they have "evolved beyond such primitive expectations" are slaves to it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 08:31 PM
2	Why does it seem that blue collar and “average Joe” men have an easier time with female romantic partnership than money making STEM or forum guys? There's all different types. There's guys who follow the family business like you said, but they are second chance pathways. I'm in the trades right now myself. Lots of felons (at least here in the Los Angeles area).	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 08:27 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Then call her crazy, not me. She's the one who did it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 08:02 PM
6	Why does it seem that blue collar and “average Joe” men have an easier time with female romantic partnership than money making STEM or forum guys? Guys in the trades come from entirely different backgrounds. Trades, while good careers, are also "second chance" pathways.... They hire felons, guys who've been to prison, guys who had / have drug issues, guys with tattoos on their faces, etc. Guys that fall into this category lived entirely different lives before and are rebuilding themselves positively, but they also probably did well or at least decent with women before and can continue to do so even after cleaning up their act. Not all guys…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 07:59 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread I know there's no push, the trend never caught on. But that was the intention. she did it proactively because of the BCRA gene That was the excuse she gave the media, as I said. I'm literally not making this up. Would you like a source on it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 05:05 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Ok as far as those points ppl make, about women going after abusive or violent men or criminals, that is merely to prove a point about attraction and how important it is ... That women would rather fuck an attractive gang member / drug dealer who's exciting than an average or unattractive computer programmer who's not exciting. But Red Pill doesn't promote being a drug dealer or being violent / abusive. It promotes being the best you can be and not displaying weaknesses.... Being stoic and compe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 04:35 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread How? Red Pill is about being a high value man, and being the best version of yourself you can be. It's about being a leader in your relationship as well. A leader has to set the example and be stoic and competent and have his shit together. What ever made you believe Red Pill would promote being an alcoholic / addict and being abusive and having a temper? Someone like that is not setting the example.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 04:24 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Yes. He's successful because he has the highest levels of Looks, Money, and Status. Of course he will be successful with women, he has all the qualities they want (on paper). But in practice, when it came to relationships, he didn't know what he was doing and his weaknesses were exposed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 04:18 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Nope. Lacking self control and showing weakness (in this case reliance on substances and inability to control his emotions/temper) is the opposite of Red Pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 04:16 PM
7	ICK Discussion Thread Arrogance or a woman being conceited is a huge attraction killer. It's a very ugly trait.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 04:13 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Those could definitely be factors as well, as well as other factors neither you nor I mentioned. But I think the points I made are valid and factors as well and apply to not only his situation, but modern relationships in general	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 03:45 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread He'll be fine. And he did it to himself. I'm merely pointing out that there's valuable lessons in this: Don't get married Don't let them get too comfortable (this relates to point 1) Keep them chasing you Don't relax and get complacent Even a man with everything going for him, in this case Looks, Money, Status, and Pre-Selection all to the highest levels will fail if he doesn't use Red Pill truths to his advantage, whether knowingly or unknowingly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 03:39 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread For him being abusive: nope, not her fault at all For bait and switching him: absolutely her fault	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 03:36 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread No. He already had a beautiful and high value woman, Jennifer Aniston. Angelina had to come with something better. That something better was better sex. I think she honestly did it for the genes, get ultra giga Chad genes of Brad Pitt for her own kid. Soon as she secured that she checked out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 03:35 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread I said if she would have done her part in the marriage and been a proper wife he wouldn't have been depressed and they wouldn't have had the problems they did. He's responsible for letting it get to that point. She's not responsible for the decisions he made that were wrong, but she has responsibility in their relationship having problems and failing, which led to that issue (which he's still responsible for)	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 03:24 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread When she met him she was a freak. Remember her and Billy Bob Thornton? They "fucked in the car on the way here" (to the Academy Awards) and carried vials of each other's blood. She pulled Brad in with freakiness and that's what he expected and then she just stopped and she became supermom	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 03:21 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Nope. That's the excuse she gave the media. The reality is 2 fold: She didn't want them anymore (the hassle of dealing with them) She did it for "feminism purposes," same way women burned their bras and stopped shaving their legs and she hoped this caught on as an empowerment trend	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 03:19 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread I didn't say it was her fault. He's completely responsible for his actions and he put himself in that position to begin with. I'm criticizing him and using him as a example of what not to do. But the reality is also every effect has a cause. If for example, someone murdered and raped one of my kids, and I hunt him down and murder him, I am in the wrong and will go to jail because I'm a murderer... And I would be responsible for my actions. But the reality is cause and effect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 03:18 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread No. Brad Pitts mental health got worse because he was unhappy. His drinking got out of hand and he started to be abusive. What he did isn't defendable and I'm not defending the actions. But every effect has a cause. If she would have prioritized being the wife he thought she was gonna be instead of bait and switching him, they would probably be together and be happy still.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 02:21 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Brad Pitt (the "sexiest man alive") couldn't even keep a chick. He's a great actor, but he's a Blue Pill liberal (as are many actors). He thought he could get by just on his looks and got comfortable. Made Angelina Jolie waaay too comfortable instead of her still having to chase him like in the beginning. In the beginning, she had to compete with Jennifer Aniston (so he's not only hot, but pre-selected). Soon as she "won" and he let her get comfortable, she adopted a bunch of kids, focused all h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 02:16 PM
5	Men dont actually care about a women being healthy I'm attracted to everything from skinny/slim to average to athletic. The reason I think a skinny/slim girl is a good pick is because you have more room to work with. If she gains a bit of weight in the future (either relationship weight or as she ages) then she will be average. A girl who's already average will go to overweight. So it's more of a future planning or "preventative maintenance" if you will. Same thing with younger women. A woman who's 30 can be hot 🔥, but a woman who's 20 who's hot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 01:45 PM
14	Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced? Anything less is a disservice to yourself. Anything less is downright uncivilized.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/23 02:39 AM
11	Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced? Damn those were some good ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/23 10:27 PM
–	How is status determined in a jobless AI-dominated future? They also tax they hell out of their citizens, cost of living and rent in particular is through the roof, they have a massive homeless population because of this, they restrict ppl's Constitutional rights, and they have many other problems. I'm a California native, but I've lived in many other states and even on other continents. CA is definitely one of the worst states in the nation. Texas was amazing in comparison, as were all the other "Red States" I've lived in such as Georgia and Florida. P…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/23 03:57 PM
3	The Red Pill is dying and RP influencers are killing it. Those gurus ultimately are just businessmen and entertainers at the end of the day. No Red Pill man needs to follow a guru. Red Pill information is pretty basic at its fundamental level. It's the information. Women are more shallow than many men were most likely led to believe, combined with the fact that the modern young woman is the pickiest generation of women to ever walk this earth (because they're all working, financially independent, and don't need no man), men must improve in the Looks, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/23 08:08 AM
–	CMV: Half your age plus seven should be implemented to protect young adults from old people Why would they be my boss though? The only reason I can think of is they're more experienced than me in whatever field and more qualified. That's not likely to happen, but assuming that exact scenario existed, and assuming the 18 year old was more qualified, then I would accept it. Whoever is qualified to lead should lead, regardless of age. I've had older ppl underneath me. You have to draw the line somewhere, and 18 is pretty old to consider someone an adult, it's already pretty high, and well…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/23 07:48 AM
–	CMV: Half your age plus seven should be implemented to protect young adults from old people Yes, student loans can be a negative if they don't do their due diligence and plan ahead, but ultimately that's a choice that an adult makes. Same with the sleeping with someone older. We have to draw the line somewhere. Also, that 18 year old may be a "brand new adult" but so many ppl act like they were just born. Remember, that's what the last 18 years have been about, preparing them for this moment. Some 40 year olds aren't financially literate. Since maturity, life experiences, and competenc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/23 07:36 AM
–	CMV: Half your age plus seven should be implemented to protect young adults from old people What's creepy about supporting the rights and autonomy of women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/23 07:25 AM
2	CMV A lot of "bad dating advice" actually comes from not listening to what was actually said https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sdut-fan-letters-james-holmes-released-2015sep12-story.html Look at the guy! He was clearly an unsuccessful, loner type loser who didn't get women. Now look at his prison cell full of sexy photos of young women who write to him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 04:07 PM
–	CMV A lot of "bad dating advice" actually comes from not listening to what was actually said Don't be mean	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 03:59 PM
–	Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some? I would delve deeper and see what else she offers...but she's off to a damn good start. And I would be fine with her being direct and asking me as well. I feel being very direct will eliminate a lot of potential issues ppl have because communication and expectations are not established beforehand and assumptions are made instead. Ppl should absolutely be direct.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 03:36 PM
3	CMV A lot of "bad dating advice" actually comes from not listening to what was actually said James Holmes isn't hot. He's the Aurora Colorado theater mass shooter. He has groupies. I think the difference is Jodi Arias is hot, so men will write to her. But women will write to and be groupies for even not hot male killers because the action is hot to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 01:29 PM
6	CMV: Half your age plus seven should be implemented to protect young adults from old people Yes I saw that. I'm glad you changed your mind. I made that comment for anyone else to see as well 🙂	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 01:15 PM
–	Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some? No it doesn't. Because not much of her personality was described, except for the previous comment of agreeable personality. I was blending the two women you and the other poster described together because yours was a follow on comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 01:14 PM
8	CMV: Half your age plus seven should be implemented to protect young adults from old people No. I stand in full support and solidarity with 18 year old women to have full agency as the adults they are, along with all the rights that go along with that. I am firmly against any oppression of young women to take their choices away about what they can do with their bodies. Their body their choice! ✊ (Standing in solidarity with young women for their human rights)	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 01:12 PM
–	Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some? That woman is quite a catch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 01:02 PM
–	Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some? Sounds perfect. That woman's quite a catch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 01:00 PM
–	Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some? I don't find it offensive. But I think ppl do because it presents the "ugly" and harsh reality that a relationship is transactional. Ppl here like to say relationships aren't transactional, but they absolutely are. Ppl only enter relationships once they do what's basically a cost benefit analysis. You look at the other person and what their qualities are (what they bring to the table, what you'll be getting out of the deal, etc) and then look at yourself and what you'll be required to bring to t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 12:53 PM
9	Women want men who elicit in her the same behavior that they find so abhorrent and repulsive in men. Rule 1. Be hot 🔥 Rule 2. Don't be not hot 🔥 Rule 3. Don't not be hot 🔥	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/23 02:08 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing You would have to evaluate if you think she's being genuine, or vetting you and trying to give you just enough rope to hang yourself. That's what I meant. Can we talk about your cat avatar for a second tho .... Why's she so sexy? 🔥	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 09:17 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing He's not a rapist because as of now it's just an accusation. The guy who killed all the ppl at the Aurora Colorado movie theater shooting wasn't a murderer until he was convicted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 09:07 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Know your enemy -- Sun Tzu You gotta evaluate this on a case by case basis and strategize beforehand. Also, your cat avatar is hot 🔥 I like it	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 09:00 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Guys don't care about n count for sex tho, only for relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 08:58 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Re-read my first two sentences in the previous comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 08:22 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Let's tackle one issue at a time tho? Because the issues aren't dependent upon the opposite scenarios. I'm not disagreeing with you. But let's first establish my postion. So you agree with my take?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 07:55 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing We have the formula. The formula works. I don't make the rules. RP truths are as true as math. They're as true as 1+1=2. In fact, I'm more confident in Red Pill truths than the statement 1+1=2 because someone looong ago could have fucked the math up and we've been doing it wrong this whole time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 04:51 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No it was a joke. In the movie training day a guy says something about "tax that ass for days" and I added on the Tea Act because it was a tax. Red Pill men don't hate women. Misogynists do. Red Pill men are just men who know the truth. Some are misogynists some aren't. Some blue pill men are misogynists some aren't. But women on this forum believe all RP men are misogynists, that's why I quoted it in my comment before you know it you've slept with a "Red Pill misogynist"	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 04:03 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing She's not losing out. I was agreeing with your point. As sex is mutual. The goal isn't to make the woman lose out, the goal is to tax that ass like the Tea Act in the 1700's	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 03:45 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Men want to "tax that ass for days" I don't make the rules. Because biology. Take it up with the textbooks and molecular structures if you take issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 03:41 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No, she was the one vetting in that scenario, for a RP man. Using that technique will avoid. "Know your enemy" -- Sun Tzu	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 03:39 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No it didn't bother me. I just wanted to inform them so they can stop the BS	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 02:48 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Yeah that's true but it ultimately plays into sex too because we are in competition with other men. A man who conquers his enemies and declares himself king, for example, will have raised himself to a high position and now will enjoy the perks of said position	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 02:47 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Go on... (Scribbles in notepad)	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 02:12 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Yes if a woman wants to repel a RP man she can get fat, dye her hair blue, and attend "Down with men" rallies. But she better make sure she's fat and not hot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 02:11 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing (Scribbles in notepad) So you're saying I shouldn't admit to going to the gym daily then? What would you say is the cutoff for it not being a red flag? 3 times a week?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:53 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing All men do ultimately at a macro zoomed out level. It's deep philosophy from over 1000 years ago not just something I made up	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:51 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing She's not. It just goes against what some women claim that they'll never sleep with a Red Pill guy	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:49 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing This post was a result of women on here saying they can sniff out a Red Pill man and would never sleep with one. I'm merely saying it's not true	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:46 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Nope. That's how you throw someone off if they're vetting. It's an example, a basic one at that. There's much more effective techniques but I didn't go into them	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:45 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing You know there's philosophies that state everything a man does ultimately stems from a desire for sex, whether subconsciously or consciously. Guy gets up and brushes his teeth in the morning why? Because if his teeth look bad women won't like it and he won't get sex. Guy goes to work. Why? Because he has to have a place to live, clothes, food, car, etc so he can have his shit together so he can have sex. Guy took out the trash. Why? Has to keep a clean environment at home etc etc etc because sex…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 04:16 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Running them off how? These tactics are to be employed in a specific scenario where a Red Pill Man takes interest in a girl but he suspects she would disqualify him potentially. Let's say she's a hard core feminist and hates Andrew Tate for example.... But... She's got a really nice ass. So we have a situation that is at odds. On one hand her personality and ideology is opposed to said man, so it has no future, but on the other hand she's hot 🔥 and has a really nice ass. So said man wants to acq…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 04:05 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No it's because you all don't tell the truth. That's why we have to "watch what they do, not what they say" because the information from women was so bad. But it's ok, now we have a playbook.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 04:02 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Thank you. And yes I agree. This stuff is for hooking up or more short term obviously. To get past feminists who try to filter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 03:39 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing If it works it works. None of us tell the whole truth ever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 02:57 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Well my qualifier was men who properly applied Red Pill, in which case they are hitting the gym and maximizeming LMS These tactics are very effective. But mainly only need to be applied when trying to get sexual access to feminists and progressive women. Mainly feminists I would say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 02:56 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing These tactics work. And they're very effective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 02:52 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing But my point stands, we have the formula/playbook, and it works. These tactics, properly applied, work... Do you concede that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 02:50 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing That's true. But it depends on a number of factors. A man can do a cost benefit analysis to analyze the quality of pussy to be acquired, amount of waiting time, etc to determine if it's worth his while. So yeah, if you hold off until marriage or years that will work. But a guy may decide that sexual access to a specific female is worth the month or 2 necessary to play the game. Plus, he could be seeing other women during that time as well. Unless you're living with him or spending every day toge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 02:21 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Yeah but they'll still give it up because they won't know. If all women, en mass, decided no more pussy until marriage, men would have to play by those rules . But that's not the reality, they want their sexual freedom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 02:06 AM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing She ain't gonna have access to my phone lol. That's a power play and a man doing that loses credibility and dries up the pussy. So she would never be on my phone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:58 AM
2	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing How do you feel about Red Pill men in general? Would you date one?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:42 AM
-2	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Andrew Tate is not a rapist. He's just a man with a pending charge. If tomorrow he was officially declared a rapist, what he says would still be true, even if he did a horrible action. Einsteins theory of relativity wouldn't lose credibility if we somehow found out Einstein was a rapist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:30 AM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Don’t you feel that sex better when you’re fully uninhibited, or is that not universal??? Absolutely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:11 AM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing (Scribbles in notepad) Keep em coming I'm getting some good info here to add to the playbook.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:08 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No Oh, then it's irrelevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:06 AM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Are you asking because you're interested?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:05 AM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Know your market	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:03 AM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Nope. I turn them on and make them squirt.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 01:01 AM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing How do you feel about Red Pill generally?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 12:55 AM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing That's right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 12:48 AM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Well yes. The point is to do the correct things that Red Pill teaches (because it works), but not necessarily to broadcast the fact that you're Red Pill. Basically it's like fight club. You do it all, but you just don't speak on it specifically.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 12:29 AM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing You said it "takes a while for them to figure out" so I assume by then you've already taxed that ass for days	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 12:20 AM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing You mean non fiction, physics books	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 12:19 AM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Not if he's good. If he's good enough he'll respond properly and pass but you'll still never know. There's some advanced techniques that are very effective, but I won't list them. I just gave bare bones examples	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 12:19 AM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No but she'll cheat on him with the Red Pill misogynist	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 12:09 AM
2	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing But they won't listen if he's hot and they vibe. Women go off vibez.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/23 12:07 AM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing I'm proving their hypocrisy. And showing them that they're wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:55 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing I didn't say that. I said the reason I give while true just don't tell the whole story, that it helps with sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:52 PM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Women love to be owned by a high value man that they're attracted to and respect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:50 PM
2	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Exactly. I agree. I'm speaking to what the women on here say. Of course we know the rules are different if she finds you hot. If she finds you hot you can approach her in the gym and she would go along with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:49 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing I stand for human rights. ✊ We stand in solidarity against oppression and human rights violations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:48 PM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Yes, then she would have herself a blue-pilled femboy who she's not attracted to and doesn't find masculine and hot, unless she's an exception to the rule. But for most women, the criteria you listed would not make them wet	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:47 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No. I would take care of her. But the type of woman that you're talking about is a literal unicorn. For a unicorn yes I would pay her way. But there are no unicorns like that, so in America no. Even a submissive woman in America I would expect to pay half because they've still been touched by feminism. The type of woman I would pay everything for would have to be literally: Young, beautiful, virgin, slut only for me, submissive, traditional, good hearted, and many other qualities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:44 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Well no point arguing about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:41 PM
2	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Well yeah Red Pill is ultimately just information. You can use it to whatever end you want. But I made this post because women on this sub shit on Red Pill and say they would never sleep with one, when I'm sure many of them already have	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:40 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No. Red Pill men will not do those, because they're unattractive to women. Red Pill men must still operate as Red Pill men, but the motivations for theyr actions (lift weights up and put it down because sex) must be hidden and framed as "natural" and not something methodically planned out. The only actual lying will come in the form of opinions such as if someone asks about Andrew Tate or Red Pill itself. It's fight club. You don't talk about it. But the actions : looks, money, status, holding f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:39 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Well you're speaking like a woman being realistic. Women on here get mad at a man asking a woman he doesn't know out because he "knows nothing about her, so he must want sex, because all he knows is what she looks like." When the reality is of course he wants sex, whether he knows her or doesn't, men ask women out and try to get with them for sex. But women on here seem delusional to nature	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:35 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing I don't have Tate as an idol. I live my own life and it's completely different from Tate. However I do agree with much of what I've heard Tate say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:33 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing The men and women may or may not be compatible based on the individuals. Red Pill Men and Red Pill Women operate on the same basic information, so they would be in agreement about male and female nature as a starting point. From there it would be up to individuals and what they want	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:31 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Innocent until proven guilty. I support due process and human rights.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:30 PM
3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Yes exactly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:29 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing But you had sex, did you not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:28 PM
-3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No not their sexuality. But women lie and don't tell the truth to look better. Men are open: we like young, submissive, not fat, attractive women with low n or virgins who are only sluts for us. We are open. Women say things like liking sensitive guys or nice guys but will fuck an attractive misogynist. So men have been taking notes: be hot, don't be not hot, have money, have your shit together, etc	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:26 PM
-1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing That's true. But they don't like the motivations. So a guy who has his shit together: good. Guy who has his shit together because sex: bad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:24 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing But his actions don't contradict. In my fitness example above, Red Pill men aren't the only men that work out and lift. He merely has to not speak the whole truth ("because sex" ). A man having a good job doesn't mean he's Red Pilled. He just has to not speak the whole truth ("because sex"). Etc etc	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:23 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Then take it up with the textbooks and the laws of thermodynamics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:21 PM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing But, you are cool with anything fake. That’s the essence of your original post, you being the fake person. Not fit a relationship that's serious or long term. My post was more about getting sexual access. The criteria for short or long term will be different. You also imply that you are ok with her being fake as long as you never find out. I wouldn't be ok with it. But if you never know and gert everything you want then you'll never know. But in the green card example it's assumed to be fake. Ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:12 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing You're lumping Red Pill men into only using one strategy or having one goal. Red Pill is information, but it doesn't tell men to only have casual sex or whatever. It tells him how to maximize attractiveness to women. He can use that information for whatever he wants (he could do nothing, he could use to ti become a fuckboi, to get an LTR, marriage, etc). So no, you can't sniff them out because they don't operate the same. The only thing that is the same is the information	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:09 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No I've always had social skills. My point is not telling the whole truth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:06 PM
-3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing "Eventually" being the key term there. By then he's had sex. Doesn't matter had sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:06 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Math and physics. If you don't like it take it up with Newton and Einstein	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:05 PM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Not lie. Just not tell the whole truth. See my fitness example in the post. Those aren't lies, just not telling the whole truth (which most ppl don't tell the whole truth)	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:04 PM
-1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Ahhhh .... So being too good can work against us you're saying? (Scribbles in notepad) So a man should deliberately still be good, but not too good... Ahhh. I got you. 🤔 👍 (Scribbles in notepad)	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:03 PM
-3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Not all of it is lying. A lot of it is just not telling the whole truth. Like my fitness example. I do it for health and the things I stated. But I also "move weight up and down for sexual access". Women hate the motivations for some reason..	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:02 PM
-1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing But women for some reason hate when men do things "to get sexual access" they even hate the term sexual access. So a guy could have all his shit together and a woman would love it and consider him high value. But anither guy could have had to plan all this shit out (get in shape, get good job, etc) with sex being a motivation in the back of his mind. But women are turned off by a guy who does these things "to get sex"	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:59 PM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Women do have our playbook yes because we have openly revealed what we like: Don't be fat, be agreeable, be feminine, etc.. you all absolutely have our playbook. The only difference is men had to take notes in order to get the female playbook because you all refused to give it to us (and still deny it to this day)	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:57 PM
3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing He'll have to make that determination by doing a cost benefit analysis (quality of potential pussy, time expected to wait, etc). More math formulas that women hate lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:55 PM
2	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing I don't use anyone. If I have sex with someone it's for mutual pleasure, women enjoy sex too do they not? All I'm saying is I don't let my true beliefs on certain socially unacceptable topics be known, and that I do certain things that women like (working out) without telling them that I do then because women like them. They're still getting a guy with the qualities they like, like fitness for example. I just won't tell them that part of the reason I work out is because sex	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:54 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No I'm not cool with anything fake. And I'm not into leading with my wallet. You gave a hypothetical of a woman faking it but where the man ultimately wouldn't know. Since he wouldn't know, ignorance is bliss I guess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:52 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing It's not just to get sex you're right. But that plays a part. But for a man to identify things and write them out as a formula: get in shape, make good money, etc is viewed as goalsetting and good. But a man doing it also with the thought if getting laid is viewed as bad and not being his true self. Which I argue no one is their true self. We all do things for a variety of reasons, but sex being important to men, plays into his reasoning. But women for some reason don't like this as they want hi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:50 PM
3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing I'm a warrior and a soldier. You know nothing about the things I've done and there's no point speaking on them. But a soldier/warrior that wants to be effective on the battlefield has to master certain techniques. He has to be the total package of mind , body and technique. Technique is developed through constant practice, so that for example, when you're reloading your rifle in the heat of battle it's a smooth process and you don't fumble around or miss the magazine well, because adrenaline wil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:44 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Haha Well we do have a formula that works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:31 PM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing They do want to. And once the sex is had they're sprung. At that point I can just reveal my true opinions, but women squirting and having multiple orgasms will look past that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:29 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Yes. But for some reason they care about the why. Guy did it so he can be successful: good. Guy did it to be successful so he can have sex: bad	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:28 PM
3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing You're right it is! And that's a good point. But for some reason women care about the why. The man who has his shit altogether is viewed as high value and normal. But the man who has his shit altogether because he planned it out and because "he wants sex" is viewed as not normal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:26 PM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing That's true. And you don't talk about it. But here we talk about it. The motivations may be "to have sex" but no one will ever know	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:24 PM
3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Someone getting up at what 4.00 am, to go to the gym every day, will look vain, no matter how you put it. Sure, there are „higher levels of vain“ than that. But that doesn’t change that this still is vain. Well it still gets the job done. The army installs a lot of good habits……sure, if you say so. Getting things hammered into you by countless repetitions for the sake of it Well I'm a warrior. Warriors have to do repetitive things to perfect their mind, body, and techniques because they're charg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:22 PM
3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing LOL translation: "my life revolves around doing what women want" Spending an hour a day to stay fit and healthy is not revolving my life around them. I already stated the examples I gave are true such as being healthy etc. You just don't let on that you also do it because you get sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:16 PM
2	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing We have the formula. The formula works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:13 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing We don't have numbers for that obviously. But many Red Pill men are successful. Some women don't even care if she likes the guy enough. Some women will fuck a hot mysoginistic if she likes him enough. This strategy was for women who are adamant about not sleeping with Red Pill men. It's a technique. A tool in the tool bag that a man can decide to deploy or not	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:12 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing But in my comment I said some men are Red Pilled and don't apply it. And some do apply it. So you're talking about the ones who properly apply it I assume?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:04 PM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No, he will strategically play the game. He knows your vetting tactics and everything to say to you. He's the "perfect guy" in all regards. But his motivations are never known. (Cue maniacal laugh)	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 10:02 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Tate is an intelligent man in my opinion, with many points I agree with. His actions may or may not be good, idk. But Tate is out there spitting truths and I respect him for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:59 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing That's true. Said woman could lie and pretend to be everything that I want, but she would have to fool me by treating me a certain way and embracing that role. And if it's a lie, at that point, does it matter? She's submitting to me. Women are different tho. I put in the work to be what women want and have these qualities, but they care about the why. They don't like a guy who did it to get sex	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:58 PM
2	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing It's all relative. To someone who doesn't work out at all it seems like a lot sure, but to someone doing steroids and working out 3 hours a day then it's nothing. I work out. I have hobbies. I make money. I have friends. And I have women that I'm involved with (but I'm single). I don't discuss Red Pill (fight club) with anyone except on this forum.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:56 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Frame it as what ever you want, still nobody will believe in „health reasons“ for it. The point is not to look vain and like you only care about fitness because you want sex. Are you telling me any guy who works out is a bad thing? It's a measly hour a day. Guys who are consumed by it are working out twice a day, or 3 hours a day and taking steroids. 1 hour a day is reasonable If you do it just because the army hammered it into you, that’s just sad. The Army instills a lot of good habits. So you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:50 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Are like what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:45 PM
-3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing The point of that was that Red Pill pushes working out because it will help men get sex. So the point was to work out so you can get sex, but not to let it know that's the reason for why you do it. If your whole life revolves around having a perfect six pack at all times this may appear vain. So you work out (still to get sex) but in a way that is "normal" and healthy and not even to do with getting sex (which it at least partially is). You conceal the intentions	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:45 PM
-3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Of course. We go around their vetting though (or we can) because we have their playbook figured out.. I was speaking as to vetting as far as vetting her views on this stuff in general (Red Pill, feminism, etc).	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:42 PM
-1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing We have the formulas. We have you women figured out. I don't make the rules just play by them. And yes, math and physics	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:41 PM
2	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing He would praise you for them while admiring your ambition and tell you your goals are "sexy" and anything else you wanna hear. He would be nodding along as you talk about your education and goals while thinking of your ass and wondering if you like anal	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:40 PM
-4	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing It's really not that much effort honestly. Maybe just find a girl who likes red pills guys? Yes, for long term of course. I would only consider women who would be labelled negatively by other women (submissive, old school, etc). I'm saying a man can sleep with / pump and dump feminists while searching for said girl	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:38 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing I would argue no one displays their true selves anyway. There's levels to it. I'm just saying that we are aware of certain things that we can't talk about. We are on guard just as women are on guard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:36 PM
0	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Yeah but you can't always tell. I don't want to give out too many personal examples, but you wouldn't be able to detect me. Not every Red Pill guy is a loser who has no friends and is unsuccessful with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:34 PM
-4	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No. Supporting Andrew Tate is not socially acceptable or agreeing with his views. As I said, if his actions are proven I will condemn them (while still agreeing with his views)	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:32 PM
–	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing I'm neither of those things. I just don't tell the whole truth, but nobody does. And I lie only when necessary, such as in the Andrew Tate example, because society goes on witch hunts and labels men with certain views as certain things, as you're doing. So yes, I lie and don't tell the whole truth sometimes, same as everyone else	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:31 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing First things first, nobody will believe, that you are sacrificing sleep to be in the gym at 5:00 am every day, for at least a hour, for health reasons. That’s just ridiculous. I personally can frame it as a habit I learned in the Army, as I was a grunt for 12 years and we do fitness training early in the morning. I didn't mention this because I wanted the example to apply to more men. And I don't think going to the gym for an hour a day is so extreme in and of itself anyway. Second, so you admit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:29 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing I don't think that applies . I'm not staying Red Pill men are a certain way. Red Pill is nothing but information. Many men are Red Pilled but don't put the theory/information into practice. I'm saying a man that is Red Pilled and applies said information to his advantage can remain undetectable if he's good enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:23 PM
-1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Not all of you are liars. Some women I don't think even truly understand their own nature. Men are much more likely to have broken this down using math and the laws of physics. Women will think she acts a certain way because of the position of the moon and stars. We men just know better now and have your sex figured out because math	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:21 PM
-1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Well I agree. If I was actually serious with a woman my personality and true beliefs would be more accurately displayed. But for me to be serious and get to that level I would have been vetting her along the way. What I'm saying is men date for a variety of reasons. Maybe he wants consistent sexual access. Maybe he wants to pump and dump. Maybe he's attracted but doesn't see a future or long term with her. My point is women on this sub say they can sniff these men out and I don't think so. Not i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:19 PM
-13	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Well some things arent exactly lying, like my fitness example, it's just not telling the whole truth. But the Andrew Tate thing yes that's lying out of necessity due to certain things not being socially acceptable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:16 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing So would you date a Red Pilled Man if you knew he was Red Pilled, but you clicked with him and he treated you well?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:15 PM
3	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing My rule is to never talk about your dating strategy or politics or religion or economic views in public. Well I agree. Utilize your strategies but never let on that you are strategizing to begin with. I think normal women are not looking out for these things anyhow unless they have been hurt in the past. But if they are, as some women on this sub claim to be, we can hide it	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:14 PM
1	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing A Red Pill man is one who knows the true nature of women. He may or may not idolize sex. He may or may not even apply Red Pill. My point was that a man can apply Red Pill to his advantage (by maximizing Looks, Money, Status) in order to acquire sexual access. Women don't like this rigid formula driven planning with goals of "sexual access" they don't even like the term "sexual access." But my point was that a man who has become high value (on the superficial criteria that women value) and knows …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:11 PM
-2	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing No. I gave the most basic of techniques. There are advanced techniques to counter said advanced vetting processes. They're all accounted for. It's cat and mouse. Women may eventually counter the current advanced techniques with more advanced vetting processes, but then we will adapt even more advanced techniques. But in the mean time, the man will have had sex. And as you know: "Doesn't matter, had sex" so even if she eventually finds out. It's too late	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 09:06 PM
6	Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing Well there you go lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 08:59 PM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Women aren't equipped with hand grenades tho	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 02:05 PM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Then the human race would die out firstly .... Secondly, men would not allow this, because self preservation, and every living thing wanting to remain alive. Men would rather others suffer than to go against their own self interests. So we have to deal in reality. And the reality is the following: Men are the deadliest creatures that we know of that exist and have ever existed in the universe (Some) men hunt and prey on women Men are able to successfully hunt and prey on women in the natural wor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 03:37 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Well I'm a highly trained warrior. So I'm speaking from experience in that I know how dangerous I am. But it's a good thing that I haven't aligned myself with the forces of evil. But the point still stands, men are the deadliest animal on the planet? If you can name a deadlier species I'm all ears ..	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 03:20 AM
0	The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned women They're very, very, very effective btw. Extremely effective. You have no idea.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 10:18 PM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women We value freedom more than safety.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 10:01 PM
0	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women You live in a country that restricts your right to defend your life. I've already explained, cops are not responsible for keeping anyone safe (at the point of the crime), their only job is to enforce the law (after the crime). My solution is carry guns to protect yourself. And no I'm not part of the problem. I have every right to take my own life and safety into my own hands and not rely on some other men who may or may not be there, and who don't even have a responsibility to protect me. I'm re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 09:49 PM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Nobody messes with Big Daddy Government	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 07:16 PM
5	What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor? No I'm a realist. I've lived and breathed violence my entire adult life. I know exactly the reality of the world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:07 PM
2	I think the biggest problem in dating is that women are simply not honest about what they are attracted to, and despite the fact that men have learned this they are simply told: “so you’re going to tell an actual woman what she wants?” When men say never take dating advice from women. Just wanted to say you used peafowl, peacock, and peahen... Nice. I noticed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 04:53 PM
0	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Firstly: sure it is. Secondly: it's the reality of the world. And finally: Nobody messes with Daddy Government	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 04:22 PM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women You're speaking in a world without men correct? Yes, they would be ok. There would be growing pains but they would survive. But in a world with men (that we live in) they need men, if only to protect them from other men	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 02:57 PM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Check out the ACAB sub. It's very bad over here. I'm not saying it wouldn't. We can condemn an organization or a practice and demand change even without alternatives fully fleshed out. They won't even have the conversation . It's not about "keeping order at all costs" because North Korea keeps order with their tyrannical practices . It's about securing the rights and liberties of the individual person first and foremost, that is what's best for society. Once that's done you can figure out how to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 02:25 PM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Yes I agree with this take.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 02:20 PM
2	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women If she's in the US then she's part of the problem. She "keeps the peace" but she ultimately is in an organization with minimal to no oversight and accountability, that has become so so corrupt and tramples upon the very freedoms that her oath swore to uphold. Your niece may not be a bad personally, but she's a part of a bad organization and terrorist group. The concept of policing is not something I disagree with. The practice is. There's a saying: "All Cops Are Bastards..... Even your dad."	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 02:11 PM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Well that's true. In a world with men (that we live in) women are in need of men because of other men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 01:46 PM
0	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women I mean the world isn't fair. I'm just speaking about the reality .	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 01:46 PM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women ACAB the police are the enemy at this point. The theory of Daddy Government is what I posted about. But the police at this point are terrorists and an occupying Army.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 01:44 PM
0	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women No they're not. All men don't commit violence against women. But women have a significant amount of violence committed against them by men	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 08:11 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Ok, women need men .....more than men need women	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 08:05 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Holy shit don't give them any ideas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 08:04 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Daddy Government protects women from bad men. Women need Daddy Government. Daddy Government is men with guns. Therefore women need men..	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 08:00 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Nobody messes with Daddy Government.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 07:56 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women It means women need men more than men need women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 07:54 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Yeah I know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 07:48 AM
3	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Ahhh I forgot about that. Yes that was an awesome experiment and provided good insight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 07:47 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women No. I didn't make that claim. I merely claimed women need men (as a whole) to survive more than men need women to survive. Women are preyed on by men, men are not preyed on by women . Daddy Government is men with guns and violence. Daddy Government protects women from bad men. Therefore women need men to exist and not be enslaved. Edit: oh and no one messes with Daddy Government	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 07:34 AM
2	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Guns are a great equalizer that's a great thing about them. But collectively if you equip the entire world of men and the entire world of women with the same firepower men will win. Guns allow a smaller weaker adversary to take on a bigger stronger adversary, but warfare is not a single isolated incident . Fitness and conditioning, strength, etc are all hugely important in modern warfare. Please see my other comment in this thread for more details.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 07:32 AM
4	What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor? No I'm not. Are you? A Great Dane is ultimately a beast that can be trained (by men). If we wanted to exterminate every last great Dane tomorrow we could do so. They submit to the will of men. A man is more dangerous than a lion, tiger, etc. No man is going to fight a great Dane one on one butt naked in a caged death match. That's not how men fight. We create things, like guns, that can neutralize threats bigger and stronger in the blink of an eye. We were doing this back with wooley mammoths wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 07:28 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Infighting generally occurs when an organization gets too big and powerful. Either a sub commander gets too big for his britches and wants to be too dog (for example: Los Zetas drug cartel going to war with the Gulf Cartel) or when there's a serious ideological split that can't be rectified without war (Sunni / Shia divide for example). It almost never happens when a group is small and weak in numbers . They don't have the luxury of infighting. After they're 1000 men strong, and they have 3000 f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 07:17 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women There would be far less violence without men yes. A lot of the dirty jobs would not get done tho. But the physical threats of violence would be significantly reduced. But, that's not the world. The world has (violent) men. And because it does, women are dependent upon (good violent) men to even exist in a state of freedom and security.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 07:12 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women It depends. We would need to flesh out this hypothetical with far more details. But my point is men prey on women, women don't generally prey on men. Men (in general) won't allow women to just be and completely disassociate themselves from men. In this hypothetical scenario, those 10 men will come a knocking one way or another (whether through wooing, negotiating, and finally force). If those men wanted to completely disassociate from the women they would let it be and not press the issue or com…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 07:04 AM
0	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women IF they're hostile. Assuming they weren't hostile and were peace loving nature lovers women wouldn't hunt them to acquire male concubines tho. Men would hunt women who wanted to be left alone, that's the difference. Men will start shit, and attack offensively. Women, even if they attacked first, would only do so out of defense. And yes I agree. Men will try to form a collective and actually build families and all that. But if in this hypothetical scenario, the last 10 men and last 10 women on ea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 06:55 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Women can put up a fight, but my point is women don't hunt men. Men do hunt women.. men are natural predators of women. So women are at the mercy of men. Those 5 men refusing to participate are the good men. If all men collectively turned evil women would be screwed. Women exist and have rights because men allow it. Women are protected by good men from evil men. Therefore, they're in need of men for survival, more than men are in need of survival. The group example those 10 men would be left alo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 06:33 AM
4	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Yes. Women exist and are secured from violence because some good and benevolent men (civilized society, Daddy Government) decided to secure them and give them rights, and continue to do so to this day. But ultimately, they're at the mercy of men. If all men turned evil overnight and decided to enslave and conquer all women they could do it. They're in need of good men (Daddy Government, non evil men, military, etc). They exist unenslaved and with rights because men protect them and allow them to	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 06:28 AM
2	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women So women need men to protect them from other men, Yes. The ones who would harm them (which is the world we live in). Women forget this because they've grown up in a civilized society where men are protecting them behind the scenes (military). It's so far removed they forget that they NEED Men to secure their very existence from other men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 06:23 AM
2	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women No, they would suffer from other predatory men. My argument wasn't that women need men in a world without men but that men are natural predators of women, and they are intelligent, cunning, and lethal (the deadliest thing on earth). Lions? Tigers? Bears? Sharks? These are nothing compared to violent armed strategic men who wish to hunt women and enslave them. So in a world with men (the world we live in) women NEED Men to protect them (from other men)	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 06:18 AM
2	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women No. I served as a grunt for over 12 years and have multiple combat tours. I'm speaking from experience, not theory. "Pressing a button" doesn't win a war. Sure you can nuke the entire world, but what's the point? You can't rule over a pile of ashes or live on any of the land you just vaporized. Wars are fought for a purpose: to take and hold land, to take resources, etc. Not just for the sake of killing everything. So my point is you need boots on the ground ultimately. Why do you think we had t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:57 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Agreed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:51 AM
2	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Those men will personally survive whether their offspring die or not. I'm saying individual men don't need women as a class to survive as much as individual women need men as a class to survive. Why do you consider protection more important than feeding babies? Because without protection your life is immediately forfeit. Without your child being fed or cared for you (women) will still live. The point is women are dependent on men more (for their very existence) than men are of women... Not that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:50 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women That's a separate argument. But men are extremely deadly, cunning and ruthless natural predators of women. Men are the most dangerous thing on this earth. And they prey on and hunt women. Other men protect women from these men. So in the world we live in (where men exist) women absolutely need men (as a class) in order to survive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:47 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Idk if you read my post. My point is women can't exist without men protecting them, because they have extremely deadly and dangerous natural predators in this world (other men). Women don't protect men from immediate life ending violence. Men do protect women from that. Therefore women NEED Men or they would be doomed to other men	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:45 AM
4	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Everyone needs society. We are creatures where that is super important, it’s all about working together as a group. We can’t do much on our own at all. Women need it more. A tribe of men can wander off naked into some unclaimed desert somewhere and no one will care about them. A tribe of naked, young, attractive women wander off naked and alone into the desert somewhere and eventually, someone will come a knocking and wanting them. They are a resource men have fought wars over and plundered thro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:42 AM
0	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Weapons are nothing without warriors to wield them. No war in the history of our planet has ever been fought and won strictly with weapons or technology. You ALWAYS have warriors wielding them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:35 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women For sure men definitely benefit. And I know women play an important role. I'm talking about survival. Without men, women would be doomed to whoever wanted to take them by force. Even without collapse, the society we live in protecting (both) men and women is backed by violent men (military). We can survive without them, they can't survive without us (because of other men).	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:33 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Did you read the post? My point was womens very survival and rights to exist at all depend largely on men protecting them from being plundered by other men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:21 AM
1	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women Firstly, that depends on how highly trained and armed he is. But barring outliers, probably not. But that's entirely my point. Without Daddy Government (other armed men) barbarians could come to your husband and demand you. Barbarians aren't going to come demand him, because they want captive women. So if they came demanding his house, he could give it to them if he didn't want to fight. He could surrender his property and leave his land and live. But if they came to you, they wouldn't demand yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:19 AM
0	Women NEED Men More Than Men Need Women My point is that women NEED Men to survive, and men have provided that safety and stability (men as a class, not individuals), but now they're so comfortable that they forget that they need men in the first place and think they're magically safe. They don't put 2 and 2 together and realize that they're being protected still, just by men collectively. And yes men benefit from a safe society but not as much as women. We are more violent and dangerous, and men don't want to kidnap other men to rape…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 05:13 AM
1	The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned women I'm telling you those vetting tactics used to work but we are on to them. Red Pill is like fight club now and we don't talk about it and we know women are on guard for it. It's constant cat and mouse. We started Red Pill, women started sniffing it out now we've adapted to be undetectable, I'm sure in the future women will counter these new strategies, then we will adapt again. Constant cat and mouse psychological warfare. But.... During that time, men will have had sex and pumped and dumped, or …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 04:40 AM
1	The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned women I'm talking about the specifics of hiding Red Pill. What I'm saying is women think they can "sniff out" a man who's Red Pilled and I'm telling you that's not true anymore. We know how you vet and what to say and not to say. There's literally a step by step guide on not letting on that you're Red Pilled That was what I was referring to as very effective. But... Yes, Red Pill itself is also very effective, of course that's a given	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 04:35 AM
0	The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned women I know	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 03:41 AM
0	The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned women She won't ever know, that's the beauty. A guy could be completely and utterly Red Pilled and the best radar wouldn't detect him if he implements these properly. Before you know it, she's slept with a "Red Pill misogynist"	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 03:39 AM
1	The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned women They are. These are newer techniques actually and I was thinking of doing a post about them matter fact. I would say they've only been around for about 2 months, and I've never seen them discussed here, so idk how widespread they are yet. There's techniques to hide your Red Pill ideology as a whole, but then also if you fail that a little bit and she starts having suspicions there's techniques to actually throw her off your trail completely. They're very effective. I can send you a link to see t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 03:34 AM
–	Question: are some men inferior? If so, what makes them inferior? Definitely looksmaxx and moneymaxx. That'll help you in everything, your health, your quality of life, and with women, so you should do that regardless. Maybe at 27 I can kind of restart. Would it be weird to try to hang out with 21 & 22 year old women at that age? You can hang out with whoever and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I'm in my 30's and I have friends of varying ages, some much younger and some much older and everything in between. But just don't fixate on specifics and live you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 02:23 AM
–	Question: are some men inferior? If so, what makes them inferior? No you should be ok. I looked at your pics. You have some size on you, so you have some muscle mass. You look older cuz of the beard, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I rock a beard too. If you cut some more weight your face will slim out too and look better. As I said, I know it's a struggle, but never stop improving.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 02:06 AM
–	Question: are some men inferior? If so, what makes them inferior? I don't know too much about autism bro so I can't speak on it. But your looks are fading at 24? Lol. You haven't even peaked yet. Men peak in their late 20's to early 30's (physically). Keep lifting. Keep losing weight. It is slow I know. But track your progress and keep it up. You have to live life anyway right? So 2 years from now you'll still be here anyway, so you can have put in the work and look super fit, or you can wish you did, because either way the world keeps turning. Stack your mone…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 01:54 AM
-1	The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned women They're very, very effective btw.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 01:48 AM
–	Question: are some men inferior? If so, what makes them inferior? Ok you've identified some weaknesses. What are you doing about it? Do you have a plan? You mentioned you're gonna be making better money in a few years.... Are you going to the gym and getting your health and fitness in order? It's an uphill battle bro I know, but it's not hopeless if you put in effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 01:45 AM
2	The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned women My kinda woman right here!! 🔥	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 01:42 AM
-1	The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned women I'm happy for you. But that message was to you just as much as it was for our assumed hypothetical reading audience so that they know that we know women are looking and vetting and we know exactly how to hide Red Pill stuff. There's even specific techniques to hide it and throw them off the trail but I've never seen them discussed here, at least not yet. They're very effective too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 01:35 AM
-1	The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned women Nope. Now we know the things you're looking for. We hide them very well. (Cue maniacal laugh)	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 01:26 AM
–	Question: are some men inferior? If so, what makes them inferior? Hey OP how old are you? And what would you say your weaknesses or problem areas are (if you're comfortable sharing that)?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 01:15 AM
1	Just because something is natural doesn't mean its okay Men on here are always say "its okay to be sexually attracted to 18 year old's because its natural" It is ok. And it absolutely is natural. An 18 year old woman is both Legal age of consent (man made arbitrary social construct) Sexually mature (fully developed, puberty has long passed, all secondary sex characteristics are developed, and can reproduce) There is nothing wrong with an adult human male being attracted to, or having sex with, a consenting legal sexually mature woman. We are not apes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 11:07 PM
8	What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor? No, great Danes do not have a history of killing millions and millions of ppl. Men do (as a whole not as individuals). Secondly I don't find the comparison to be a good one. A man is far more dangerous than a great Dane. A great Dane has its strength, teeth, and claws... Men have handheld projectile weapons that can kill instantly in a second at distance (guns). Great Danes are ultimately lower functioning animals in comparison to us, and thus if they attack it will usually be due to being afrai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 07:57 PM
2	Are short guys more likely to be superior in other genetical aspects? They think the constitution and the law is what protects them. That's a piece of paper and words written on paper. Even within society itself, the laws are backed up with violence. What happens if a man decides to murder someone, rape someone, etc? Oh that's right, they send armed, violent men (police) to deal with it. Without violent men these women would be someone's sex slave or concubine. "You're welcome Women" -- sincerely, Men	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 06:12 PM
3	Are short guys more likely to be superior in other genetical aspects? A functioning society doesn’t need violent men There IS NO functioning society without violent men. A country is a group of ppl (tribe) backed up by violence (military force) which is necessary to even exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 06:02 PM
3	Are short guys more likely to be superior in other genetical aspects? EVERYTHING in this world is ultimately backed by violence or threat of violence (from men). It's what allows "civilization" and women's rights and everything. Do they not think? What do they think the government is? It's a big group with violence behind it keeping other men (barbarians) at the gates.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 05:53 PM
3	Are short guys more likely to be superior in other genetical aspects? It's absolutely nuts that the modern woman has completely forgotten this and lives in La La Land. This applied in 10,000 B.C. and it applies now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 05:45 PM
–	What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor? This was the exact point of the topic though. To voice out an opinion about our own sex. Men as a whole are dangerous. But I still believe in innocent until proven guilty and all that. My point is women are right to be cautious when dealing with men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 04:57 PM
4	Q4Women: Do you enjoy rejecting men who approach you that you don't find attractive? Ahh I see. So it's creepy when it's something you don't like. But if I say 2 men sleeping together is creepy I would be "wrong" for that, even though a 40 year old man sleeping with an 18 year old woman is more natural than 2 men sleeping together. Well I'll just say it's a good thing 18 is legal and there's nothing anyone's gonna do about it. I know feminists would LOVE to make it illegal for an older man to sleep with an 18 year old, and they would push the age of consent to 25 if they could.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 03:14 PM
1	Q4Women: Do you enjoy rejecting men who approach you that you don't find attractive? ☝️ I disagree Also, does a weight difference make things creepy too? What about an income difference?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 02:53 PM
17	What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor? Yes our testosterone is a powerful tool. It's the fuel for our motivation and drive and can be used for good and productive things or evil and unproductive things. That's why I think masturbating to porn is a huge detriment. Men are constantly depleting their drive in an unnatural way. Beating it to porn everyday will kill a man's motivation to do things and succeed, and he will fall into a contentment of mediocracy because he's still satisfying his urges (on a minimalist level)	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 02:38 PM
1	Q4Women: Do you enjoy rejecting men who approach you that you don't find attractive? A person your dad's age hitting on you is creepy. Nonstop. Well I guess it's subjective and I don't find it creepy. Someone "your dad's age" could be hot, or the woman could have a thing for older men. Since some women have a thing for older men, but because men have no way of knowing until they approach, they must approach to find out. I don't see anything creepy about this. I've been approached / hit on by all manner of women I had no interest / attraction for, including older women "my mom's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 02:20 PM
6	What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor? Lol yes we do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 02:00 PM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character Well yeah. But that's my point too. If a man works on himself and rises up he won't have to accept just anyone (like an obese woman with nothing to offer for example)	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 01:26 PM
13	What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor? Absolutely. We are very violent (as a whole) and competitive. We war with each other over trivial things and dominate everything on the planet. If the mighty T-Rex 🦖 was still alive we would hunt him for sport and enslave him in our zoos for our entertainment. We also kill for pleasure. These animalistic tendencies combined with our intelligence make us very dangerous and destructive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 01:24 PM
4	Q4Women: Do you enjoy rejecting men who approach you that you don't find attractive? I can understand being unattracted, as we all have preferences. I was just trying to understand because she said "creepy" so I was wondering if his actions were creepy, or if she labelled him as creepy merely for falling outside of her attraction preferences	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 12:16 PM
120	What is your unpopular opinion regarding your own gender that could make others call you a gender traitor? Men are dangerous. We are the most violent and destructive creatures to ever walk this earth. Now that applies to men as a whole of course, and it may or may not apply to individuals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 12:10 PM
0	Q4Women: Do you enjoy rejecting men who approach you that you don't find attractive? The last guy, what did he do that was creepy? He was stalking you prior to this, or taking photos of you from afar or something? Edit: Damn, downvotes for asking a question? Lol. That's how I know I'm doing something right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 12:05 PM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character Changing is about individual success. You, me, or anyone else we cannot get "women to change" as a whole. What someone can do is make changes themselves and attain individual success. So my point is to be applied to individual men who want to be successful, not a group as a whole.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 11:24 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character I'm not a feminist, and I'm one of the most Red-Pilliest users on this forum. I'm just being realistic. Women can do whatever they want. Changing is about individual success. You, me, or anyone else we cannot get "women to change" as a whole. What someone can do is make changes themselves and attain individual success. So my point is to be applied to individual men who want to be successful, not a group as a whole.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 11:22 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character I think what holds a lot of guys back is either 1.Fear of the unknown (unable or unwilling to just go to a foreign country and explore) 2. Lack of means to do so (it takes a certain amount of financial freedom) I'm personally blessed with some amount of financial freedom (guaranteed income) being ex military so it's possible for me. So he's in Ukraine currently? Or just the region and he's in another country?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 11:10 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character It's on men to take matters into their own hands and raise themselves up to levels where they can be successful yes. Women aren't going to drop their standards. So yes, men would be wise to aspire to be HVM, then once they are they'll have the power and options. I'm saying men should better themselves yes, but by bettering themselves they also raise their standards and options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 05:32 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character Ahh ok that explains some of the names I see then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 04:02 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character What's up with your username btw? Are you literally an accountant that's popular? I see a lot of ppl going with the format "adjective-noun" like that, but sometimes it doesn't make sense (to me). It might be something like "Serene-Painting" or something like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 03:41 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character No of course not. I just don't think ppl should come to the table negotiating the price of food when they're starving, or negotiating over a bottle of water when they're stuck in the desert.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 03:21 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character Yeah it's probably already at 95/5. I think more ppl should be open to Passport Broing though. I'm not even unsuccessful with women, I have a few FWB and am single by choice and shit I'm thinking about doing it my damn self.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 03:20 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character But. Should someone like that become okay with someone two or three times his weight...or an alcoholic, or a drug addict, or something like that? Or should he be single for life? In answer to that question each man will have to search deep in his heart for that answer. If he can be happy with said woman, then sure. If not, then of course not. I personally couldn't be with a woman I'm not attracted to, as I would never be happy. I also couldn't be with a woman who wasn't attracted to me and was w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 03:16 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character Women have absolutely gotten pickier. Or rather, they've always been this picky but now it's on display in full force because they're independent. A lot of factors actually... Independence, social media, men becoming progressively less masculine etc. But I think men can improve a hell of a lot more than they think they can. And I'm not saying men should be so picky they price themselves out of the market. You analyze the total package obviously. I'm just saying unless a man has brought himself t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 02:51 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character I'm saying that men start off from a variety of positions in life. Some are born millionaire trust fund babies with good genetics. They start from a position of advantage in life. Some men are born from a position of disadvantage and are born poor and with less than ideal genes. With women's freedom and the fact that they make their own money and are living in this post feminism world, they are pickier than ever. This has left a lot of average and below average men feeling as if women are so pic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 02:43 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character Yes. Because a man who will take anything is the last type of man a woman wants. Women want to feel special too. They want a man who had options to select them, not a guy who is gonna try to lock her down after the first whiff of pussy he sniffed in his whole life. Men's desperation makes pussy dry like the Sahara Desert. And they can definitely sense that shit, they know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 12:58 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character I think most men with enough effort though can probably improve enough to where they can be attractive enough to get a decent woman they'll be happy with though. Barring extreme exceptions and outliers of course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 12:56 AM
–	Too many men prize a pretty face over the content of a woman's character All of this is due to men having low standards for how they are treated. Men's standards are way too low. I really don't like the desperation and comments from a lot of men that post here. Things like "we have to take what we can get" and acting like they'll say yes to just any woman who comes along and gives them the time of day. I understand that a lot of men are struggling, but you can never have an attitude like that. You can't negotiate from a position of weakness and disadvantage. It would…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/23 11:53 PM
8	What’s worse: being an overweight woman or a broke man? Firstly, I'm sorry that has been your experience. No one should be treated like that just because they struggle with something. But what I mainly wanted to tell you was that 80lbs in a year is good progress. That's 80lbs of fat off your body. Keep up the good work. Also I wanted to tell you that if you're not already doing so, you should make sure you lift weights. A lot of women (and even men) tend to lose a bunch of weight but they did it through dieting only or dieting and cardio only. Yes, t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/23 02:13 PM
1	The dominance of the Feminine Given that men aren’t entitled to the things they used to be entitled to because they aren’t providing women the safety to the degree they used to But they are providing that safety. Women are still provided safety by men. But instead of it being the husband, father, or brother's job to protect her, women have merely outsourced their protection to other men, in this case Daddy Government who has a monopoly on violence. Women and men absolutely need each other, and our "traditional gender roles" …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/23 10:40 PM
1	Q4M: would you leave a potential partner if they don’t agree to sleep with you until a certain amount of time passes? That depends on 3 factors: How long of a wait we are talking (this leads into point 2) The value I perceive said woman as Finally, and most importantly, what her standards were for other men	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/23 02:47 AM
–	CMV: Red Pill is a Cult 🤣👍	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/23 01:21 AM
2	Q4W: Would you prefer to be a man instead of a woman? Most of my issues in life have been due to the fact that I have unfeminine tendencies, habits, interests, etc. Like you're into cars, guns, and videogames? Or you're talking about something else?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 08:36 PM
1	CMV : I think the problem is that whilst people realize they are not special or top 1 percent, deep down, id say over 90 percent of people believe they are AT LEAST in the top 50 percent in some way There was a study done that found that 90% of drivers think they're "above average," and 50% believe they're in the top 10%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 08:31 PM
9	Q4everyone: Is your type into you? I fit the 3 F’s: Fit , Feminine, Friendly Yup, that'll do it. That puts you ahead of probably 90% (maybe more I'm just estimating) of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 02:09 PM
3	Q4everyone: Is your type into you? What's an artsy guy? When I hear artsy I think of long hair, unemployed (starving artist trope), skinny, "misunderstood" types.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 02:07 PM
1	Q4everyone: Is your type into you? Are nerds your type though? Or do you tend to date them because they're who runs in your circle and you end up knowing a lot of them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 12:14 PM
9	Men who work out - what is your opinion on this article? "I was rejected by a girl. It led me to change my body" This is going to be incredibly nerdy, so strap in You didn't disappoint bro. (And I knew what you were talking about myself haha)	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 01:13 AM
2	Men who work out - what is your opinion on this article? "I was rejected by a girl. It led me to change my body" Well it's not that bad. Average about an hour every day. It becomes pretty routine once you get in a program like that, which is why I also hesitate to take off days because it doesn't feel right. And thank you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 01:02 AM
1	Men who work out - what is your opinion on this article? "I was rejected by a girl. It led me to change my body" Firstly, I think everyone needs something to motivate them. Your motivation can come from a variety of things such as past experiences, future goals, etc. I'm not gonna say doing it from a negative experience is unhealthy, because that frame of mind he had was likely temporary, but the positive habits will (hopefully) stay. Whatever he needs to do to get his fitness in order is ultimately good, no matter where the motivation came from. As far as me, I'm in the gym 7 days a week. It's the first t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 12:53 AM
3	If women have "Female Intuition", what do guys have? Instinct? Gut Feelings? Logical reasoning and problem solving. We don't leave things to horoscopes or "the universe" or anything like that. We don't go off of "vibez" either or the alignment of the moon 🌙. A man thinks like this: 1. Identify the problem 2. Decide what he wants to be the desired endstate 3. Gathers information 4. Analyzes information 5. Comes up with multiple Courses of Action (CoA) that will achieve his desired endstate 6. Compares / contrasts CoA's and selects the best one 7. Implements CoA 8. Achieve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/23 03:01 PM
1	Self Improvement Thread Discussion Thread So if I'm understanding, you're bisexual, meaning you have a sexual attraction to both sexes, but you have a preference (for one reason or another) for women and ultimately want to date a woman. It's not an issue I have personal experience with, but I can empathize that it would be a struggle. But what about just not saying anything about it? My sexuality has never come up with any woman I've dated, and I'm pretty sure they assume by default that a man is straight hence why he is dating them. So…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/23 02:39 PM
3	“its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argument This is an incredibly interesting study btw. Thank you for posting this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/23 12:30 PM
5	Self Improvement Thread Discussion Thread Actually I would say she learned rule 1 AND 2. Don't be fat Be not fat Off to a good start I say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/23 02:10 AM
1	Self Improvement Thread Discussion Thread Why do you say that? What would you say your weak points are? Besides height which you cannot improve, but is also not the end all be all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/23 02:06 AM
1	Q4M: How do you define “fat”? Yes, there's definitely not enough not fat women to go around. But then again, lots of men are fat too, so a man can be ahead of the game by not being fat, and if he wants to be attractive then that's harder tho, as he has to be at least somewhat muscular and also lean / not fat at the same time. That's why I say women's beauty standards are far easier than men's. A woman just has to be "not fat" and there's a 99% chance she's a minimum 5. So take a standard human shaped woman's silhouette 👥 tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 09:07 PM
1	Q4M: How do you define “fat”? Brazil was just a random example I mentioned. There was a poster on here who had said most Brazilian women weren't fat so that example was stuck in my head. But you could replace Brazil with Malaysia, China, Japan, Ethiopia, Eritrea, etc ... My point was the world balances out. And I compare on a world level not just what's around me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 08:59 PM
2	Q4M: How do you define “fat”? Maybe average isn't the correct word by the dictionary definition, I admit. But you get what I mean. If you're market and 70% of women in the US are overweight, then what you're saying is 85% of women are below average. If 70% are overweight then 70% would be below baseline, let's use that term instead of average. And baseline to me is plain Jane not fat 5. Most younger women who are just "not fat" to me start off as a 5 (unless she had just objectively ugly features, but that's pretty rare to m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 07:55 PM
1	It wont be men abandoning women when the AI sex revolution hits. Will there be AI Chads? You know, top of the line programs that make the women with the "regular AI's" jealous?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 05:22 PM
15	Q4M: How do you define “fat”? I said this in another post and I'll say it again here: Just because the average girl/person in America is fat, doesn't mean I'll accept that as average. We have an obesity epidemic in this country. Never in the history of our entire species have we been this fat. Fat is not "normal," no matter how widespread it becomes. I'm not attracted to fat. So if 50% of the girls in the dateable age are fat, those 50% are eliminated off the bat as even being potential options. So they don't play into the a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 02:50 PM
1	What is red pill, actually? Thank you. And yes, I agree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 05:35 AM
2	What is red pill, actually? Well yes I agree. It's all shades of gray. Even a concept like AWALT doesn't literally mean "All," just that it's so commonplace that a man would be best to assume it's true. But yes I agree. I would say Red Pill is a list of best practices based on things that are usually true. But of course exceptions and outliers exist in most things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 02:52 AM
6	Would you donate an organ for your partner? If I loved her then yes, absolutely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 01:49 AM
8	What is red pill, actually? As another user on here stated, Red Pill is stuff that men usually learn anyway, through experience, trial and error, harsh life lessons (divorce, etc), and others. Red Pill is a deliberate fast tracking of all this stuff. Instead of a guy having to fail and fail and fail, until he finally figures certain things out (by which time he may be old), men have basically summarized all of this stuff already and we have the answers. Once a man has the answers, now all he needs to do is apply it and do …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 01:28 AM
2	What is red pill, actually? Lol makes sense now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 10:11 PM
5	What is red pill, actually? That's what you found in Google. Google is a part of the Blue Pill system. Let me explain: Red Pill is viewed as so controversial that it has to be silenced (TRP has been quarantined on Reddit for a long time) and shamed. It literally has its name drug through the mud by ppl that either don't know what it is, or know what it is and twist and distort it anyway in order to make it out as an utterly ridiculous fringe opinion, like Flat Earthers or something, in order to discredit in and stagnate it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 09:45 PM
15	What is red pill, actually? I agree Red Pill is the correct information, that doesn't necessarily line up with the mainstream (which is Blue Pill). I don't know what part you're actually disagreeing with me or think I have backwards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 09:28 PM
13	What is red pill, actually? Look, Red Pill doesn't say men aren't shallow and just bash women. We men know damn well we are shallow. Many men just expected women to be better than us but the reality turns out they're not necessarily the angels we thought they were. That's ok. That's reality. Red Pill is just accepting said reality. And it's not to say women are totally and utterly superficial and have no non superficial qualities. It's just a realistic outlook, that hey you can be an awesome guy and have a great personalit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 09:17 PM
14	What is red pill, actually? You have ppl that apply Red Pill and ppl who don't apply it. You have ppl that just wanna bitch about women and become entrenched in hatred, and all manner of ppl who can view TRP and agree with it. You also have overlap from other communities in that you can have a man who is a Trump loving MAGA Proud Boy who's Red Pilled. Doesn't mean TRP pushes allegiance to Trump. TRP at its core is just information. And men can use this info to benefit themselves (which is kinda the point of it after all).	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 09:10 PM
16	What is red pill, actually? Yes, men are shallow too. I didn't say we weren't. And I'm not accusing women of being "completely and utterly shallow" or anything like that. I'm saying women are more shallow than society says. We already know men are shallow, it's a trope (men are dogs, men only want one thing, etc).	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 09:06 PM
81	What is red pill, actually? Red Pill is information. It's the not necessarily politically correct or socially acceptable information. It doesn't sugar coat or mince words. It tells the harsh reality of female nature that men need to hear in order to have a checklist or playbook so to speak if they wish to maximize their success with women (whatever that may be, it's up to the individual, could be casual sex, relationships, marriage, what have you). This information, at its core, looks something like this: "Hey guys, women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 06:58 PM
0	CMV : RP's standards mainly filter out high libido/mutual attraction and lead to transactional relationships/ dead bedroom and is a terrible dating tactic You're proving my exact point. TRP doesn't state women are inferior. It's not a woman hating concept or anything like that. It merely tells men: "Hey, women are more shallow than you probably were led to believe. Here's what they (by and large) want in a man: Looks, Money, & Status. So get your ass in the gym and get in shape, make sure you have a good job/income, and get your status / game / charisma on point if you want to have success." That's the core of it. Is it "manipulation"? Idk. Depend…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 03:34 PM
0	CMV : RP's standards mainly filter out high libido/mutual attraction and lead to transactional relationships/ dead bedroom and is a terrible dating tactic Exactly. I swear ppl on this sub constantly criticize TRP without even knowing anything about TRP. TRP explains the harsh reality of female nature and advises men on ways they can improve themselves in order to be more attractive to women if they're so inclined That's all. Ppl constantly criticize it without knowing shit about it. Or they'll take a Red Piller's personal opinion and attack it as if he speaks for all of TRP. Strawman tactics. It's tiring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 02:27 PM
8	Just pay attention to her Yes, this obsession with needing "pEeR rEvIeWed StUdIeS" for everything gets old. Do you need a peer reviewed study to tell you that shit stinks?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/23 01:07 AM
–	CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman. So she still was sexting you after you had sex and she said she didn't want a relationship? That shows the she did at the very least have a sexual interest in you still. So you must not have messed anything up sexually. Either she honestly just was more interested in 2nd guy for whatever reason, or she was spooked from feeling pressure to commit so soon as others have said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/23 05:25 PM
2	CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman. No I meant women don't necessarily understand how divided we are, as women generally seem much more empathetic to each other and the way we men interact with each other can seem cruel or lacking empathy. We also tend to give each other a little bit (or a lot) of shit, question each other's masculinity, and ruthlessly question each other's heterosexuality... You know? Typical "male bonding BS."	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/23 03:59 PM
2	CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman. Isn’t the theory that women don’t get into relationships with „alphas“ because „alphas“ don’t want to be bound into relationships? Depends honestly. There's 2 possibilities actually: 1. An Alpha that has his shit together: this is the Alpha that women will usually wanna lock down (Alpha-Bucks). He's extremely difficult to lock down 2. The Alpha who doesn't have his shit together: this Alpha (Alpha-Fucks) is just for flings because he won't or can't be BF material. Some women do try to lock this …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/23 03:28 PM
3	CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman. We can be harsh I admit. I'm pretty sure it's in our nature, because ultimately every other man is a potential enemy, potential threat, potential competitor, etc. We do make alliances (friends) but we see the world thru lenses of territorial wild apes wearing clothes. That's one reason our history is so tainted with violence and war.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/23 03:18 PM
3	CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman. He shouldn’t charge who he is, he should keep trying until he finds his complement. He shouldn't "change who he is" I agree. But he may want to consider adjusting his approach.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/23 03:10 PM
2	CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman. No. It's because we men live in a ruthless and cutthroat world where it's every man for himself. We are not unified like women are. The way we are responding to him is being empathetic with him actually, in our own male way that women don't necessarily understand. We are trying to be helpful. But babying him isn't going to help him. We are trying to give him advice without sugar coating reality so he can be successful in the future.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/23 03:06 PM
4	CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman. Because by OP's own admission he's 6' 3" and attractive and can get casual sex if he wanted. If we take what he's saying at face value and assume it's true, OP was "good enough" to have a fling with (NSA sex), but not a relationship. He's also only 19. So he's most likely not established, as he's either in college still or working an entry level job (barring exceptional outliers like him being a trust fund baby or something). As such his earning potential is likely low right now, meaning he can'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/23 02:57 PM
1	CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman. How did you end up handling that one?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/23 02:41 PM
1	CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman. Yup I second this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/23 02:41 PM
14	CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman. This is the correct answer right here. OP, take note of this. Unfortunately you failed to "play the game" by playing it cool, acting aloof/signalling disinterest, and letting her chase you. You immediately threw all the power into her court and that's a quick way to dry up pussy. There's women on here giving the same opinion as well, just not with the recommendations to "play the game."	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/23 11:47 AM
4	Red pill ideology is guys thinking they speak objective truths, but it’s based on very subjective measurements. But when Red Pill men use the term, everyone knows what they're saying because of context. They don't just say "female hypergamy exists" with no context. They say females are hypergamous by nature, and then go on to define how they are hardwired to want the best man they can get in various situations (for casual sex she wants a more attractive man, for relationships she wants someone making more than her, she wants a man taller than other men, etc etc). Red Pill is becoming pretty mainstream. It…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/23 07:18 PM
8	Red pill ideology is guys thinking they speak objective truths, but it’s based on very subjective measurements. Exactly. Language is constantly evolving and changing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/23 07:02 PM
4	Fringe opinions promoted by engagement are skewing your conceptions of the other gender No, Chad describes the hypothetical archetypal pussy slayer, not a general man Yes I agree. I never stated it described the general man. It describes a hypothetical man with certain qualities that make him successful with women. Red pill invented Chad and regards Chad as the archetype; the demagogue men who aren't Chad should emulate. So? Red Pill notices what women respond to and analyzes common traits among men who are successful in order to extrapolate why. And as such, they've learned, throu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 06:25 PM
1	Fringe opinions promoted by engagement are skewing your conceptions of the other gender "Chad" is just a term to describe a hypothetical man. Anyone can use it regardless of their "pill affiliation." That's completely different than what OP described by saying men have a hopeless, woe is me mentality that if they're not the Chadliest Chad that "it's over," that's incel shit, not Red Pill. Red Pill just says women care about Looks, Money, and Status more than mainstream society actually lets on. That's all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 05:17 PM
–	My 20M GF25M Only likes sex when it´s rough, and i can't keep up. HOW TO KEEP UP?? Is she ruined? Yup. Some girls are straight up freaks. I've been with some that wanted spanking, choking, slapping, being spit on, rape fantasies. I'm more than happy to oblige all that and more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 05:08 PM
7	Fringe opinions promoted by engagement are skewing your conceptions of the other gender Someone claiming that they'll never be loved because they aren't 6'3" has nothing to do with Red Pill. That's Black Pill thinking firstly, and it's the most extreme position on the far end of the Black Pill spectrum itself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 04:41 PM
1	The Friendzone is a thing because the average woman doesn't find the average guy attractive enough But at least your fitness is on point. I'm not saying women will flock to a fit man, because it's still not (generally) their nature to approach. But it's one less thing you have to worry about. I guess the big thing is being asocial. Now you gotta work on that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 04:18 PM
7	Q4M: I think your rating scale miscalibrated when talking about "average women". Which of these women is average to you? Neither. A: She's pretty, but seems a bit overweight. But I can't really tell because of the angle she's sitting at and the pic in general doesn't show enough of her body. So for all I know she could be "thick in the right places" and be above average. B: She seems (just off what I can see from her face) like she wouldn't be fat. But I don't think her face is pretty or average even, I would find her below average, and too manly looking (not trying to be mean, just honest). But she's not super ug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 01:39 PM
1	Men are better divided into three groups, not two Dude, I didn't mean it like that. What I mean is obviously your confidence seems lacking and you aren't having the success you want. I meant just fine as in you should be able to get what you want as long as you work on that. But you don't need plastic surgery or implants or any of that. That's crazy talk. I (personally) think you just should put on some muscle and you'll look better, but you're not terrible now. It's 99% in your head bro, and 1% physical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 08:52 AM
2	Most guys don't like fake nails or heavy makeup. Guys, what do you do "for yourself" even though you know women find it unattractive? No. Obviously not that. For some reason I was thinking shaped eyebrows. But the piercings and stuff and nails and makeup yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/23 01:04 AM
1	The Friendzone is a thing because the average woman doesn't find the average guy attractive enough Plumbing is good business yeah! I'm ex military and I'm in HVAC so I have 2 incomes so I'm doing well too. Blue collar trades can be really good. It also might just be a case of needing to get the experience, if you haven't had a girlfriend or had sex (idk, I'm just assuming it's possible because you're young). I know it can fill you with anxiety and you wanna get it out the way or get your experience, and then once you are experienced your confidence will go up a lot, because it won't be someth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 11:48 PM
1	The Friendzone is a thing because the average woman doesn't find the average guy attractive enough No it's ok. Idk what to tell you because only so many things are in our control. What I do know is we should be the best we can with what's in our control, which is what my fitness comment was about. But I know you'll have to somehow fix your confidence issue otherwise it will hold you back. It will hold you back with women, but not just with women, with life in general... But especially with women. Now idk how to fix it, so I'm sorry I can't offer advice on that, but I know you'll have to get i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 11:31 PM
2	The Friendzone is a thing because the average woman doesn't find the average guy attractive enough Yeah hair is genetic, I knew guys going bald at 21. So what do you do about that you just lean into it and buzz it off? I think that's what I would do. I'm not saying that fitness will solve all a persons struggles. But if you're as fit as you say I'm sure you're more attractive now than when you weren't, so that's one area you've already got squared away. Because most guys aren't fit. You probably need to work on building your confidence, as that can hold someone back even if all their physical…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 11:14 PM
1	Most guys don't like fake nails or heavy makeup. Guys, what do you do "for yourself" even though you know women find it unattractive? Firstly, I like all the things you listed... Add tattoos to that list too, as tatted girls can be sexy. Something with my appearance: I have a beard and I have a lot of tattoos. As far as both of these some women love them, but some women hate them. So just by those I instantly would disqualify myself as not the type of certain women, but then I am the type of others. But I like them both and couldn't see myself being any other way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 11:04 PM
2	Men are better divided into three groups, not two I'm assuming you mean PPL. And if so, yes, you can go that often because you're staggering your muscle groups so you're still getting your recovery in while also hitting each muscle twice a week. I'm on the same program and it works well for me. But make sure your protein intake is high enough or you won't build muscle, and try to be in a slight caloric surplus (300 calories or so) so you'll stay lean as you bulk.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 10:46 PM
1	Men are better divided into three groups, not two Bro, in all seriousness, you have the potential to be completely fine. You should be gymmaxxing (putting some muscle on your frame) and fixing your confidence. I think your confidence is holding you back most of all. Edit: and maybe think about beardmaxxing too once you've put on muscle. Those two things combined will give you a more masculine look.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 03:47 PM
1	The Friendzone is a thing because the average woman doesn't find the average guy attractive enough What's your weak points then if you don't mind?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 03:13 PM
8	The Friendzone is a thing because the average woman doesn't find the average guy attractive enough I think a lotta men overplay things like height and underplay fitness. Fitness is entirely in your control, and even if you're lacking in other areas, you'll look significantly better fit than not. Some ppl have a defeatist mindset and see things as hopeless so no point in trying.... Like have you tried? Come back when you're shredded and have a 6 pack and then let's reevaluate and figure the next step.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 02:11 PM
3	CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their value Woman sucks off attractive guy in park bathroom, he won't even hit it he's classified her as a "head only" girl. Guy instantly flees never to be seen again. I don't think this says anything about her having any type of "value," the only thing I see here is someone who didn't value themself. most men aren't getting women to stick around and women are willing to walk away while men aren't Then men need to level up so they can have all the power. Therefore, men are still overvaluing themselves. No.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 03:21 AM
4	CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their value Yeah but OP those 3's are getting pumped and dumped only when those 7 men are desperate or they're on drugs. Those 7 men aren't committing to those 3s, they're using them for a quick and meaningless release and then fleeing as fast as they can, disgusted with themselves once post nut clarity kicks in. I thought it was well established here that women's value is generally judged by the caliber of man she can get to stick around / commit to her, not the caliber of man who is willing to pump and du…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 03:02 AM
5	Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks Discussion Thread No. Men want women to have standards. They just don't want to be "settled for" and have to bring more to the table than other men. In the hypothetical example I just gave you of the woman who didn't have casual sex no man would take issue with that scenario, because he's not being treated lesser by having to bring more	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 12:41 AM
8	Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks Discussion Thread Because it is subjective. It's based on what the woman sees you as. A woman places you into the Alpha or Beta category (whether consciously or subconsciously). It's what she requires of you. A man values being sexually attractive to his woman and wants the be in the Alpha category. Even if he's gonna marry her for example and provide and all that, he still wants to be in the Alpha category. Now let's take a woman that has never had casual sex and never will, and requires committment or marriage …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 12:34 AM
8	Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks Discussion Thread I would say far more than 80%. I don't know the exact percentage, but I doubt 1 in 5 men are Alphas, I suspect it's much smaller. Also it depends on the girl. A man could be an Alpha to one woman and a Beta to another.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 12:13 AM
5	Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks Discussion Thread No an Alpha isn't necessarily broke. He could be successful and have $... A Calvin Klein underwear model who's successful for example. And on the other hand a Beta doesn't necessarily have $, he could be broke. For example: a basement dwelling obese neckbeard who works at Walmart. This man is what we would consider a stereotypical "broke loser," but that doesn't make him Alpha. Alpha could fuck regardless of his $ because his looks alone are enough. Beta couldn't fuck without bringing something …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/23 12:08 AM
8	Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks Discussion Thread It's very simple: The Alpha can fuck a girl even being flat broke, no job, no future, etc. Why? Because he's attractive enough. I'm sure you have known someone in your entire lifetime that had a few baby mamas, never had a job, in and out of jail, etc. Note the part above about a few baby mamas. Why? Because they sleep with lots of different women and, even though they take care of none of their kids, women are still sleeping with them and even having their kids. Why? Because they're attractive.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 11:51 PM
2	CMV: Socioeconomic status can offset bad/mediocre looks in men and is a huge component of your SMV I think anything to do with money boosts your RMV (which can ultimately lead to sex of course, but RMV nonetheless). I think status can boost your SMV and/or RMV depending on what it is. And then looks is your SMV of course So to clarify my position: Looks = SMV (but your SMV is taken into account when assessing your RMV so it helps with that too) Status = can boost your SMV and/or RMV Money = boosts your RMV (but your RMV being high enough can get you sex, because a woman can be trying to lock …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 11:26 PM
1	Polygyny is unlikely to be a reasonable solution for women in the future It's not that they're ok with it. It's that they would rather sleep with Chad even though he's sleeping with other women (which is sharing him) than sleep with ugly men / men they're not attracted to. Some women aren't ok being alone or never having male companionship, and the ones that aren't but also can't get Chad to commit, begrudgingly accept sharing him... By their actions, not words. I know guys who are in their 30's who've never had jobs, gang members, have numerous baby mamas, and are i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 05:23 PM
1	Polygyny is unlikely to be a reasonable solution for women in the future . Females don't say this at all. I agree with you, they don't. In fact they always seem to say the opposite. But we watch what they do, not what they say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 05:16 PM
0	Polygyny is unlikely to be a reasonable solution for women in the future We don't really know much about how prehistoric humans organized their society But can we agree that pre-historic Chad was probably slaying? I imagine pre-historic Chad was in even higher demand due to there being no government/military and the fact that women needed men for protection at the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 05:11 PM
1	It seems that every avenue for a lonely male to find a girlfriend is being abolished and whittled down to OLD swipes I'm in my late 30's and yes it seems weird. This newer generation seems overly sensitive (I'm generalizing guys, you guys still have awesome things about your generation) and isolated from each other, and I definitely think being born in a world where social media has always been the norm plays into that. Ppl are more isolated and on their phones for their entertainment and communication. All generations live this way now, but the younger one has never known a world pre-internet and pre-everyone…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 02:05 PM
1	It seems that every avenue for a lonely male to find a girlfriend is being abolished and whittled down to OLD swipes I started this conversation with the hypothetical man who approaches a stranger in a store, I haven’t added any qualifiers. But you did. You afterwards stated that he was "wandering" around the mall and "on the hunt." Wandering implies aimlessly going about without purpose, which implies loser behavior. On the hunt implies predatory nature or at the very least a nature only concerned with conquest and adding to his hypothetical body count. My point was that without those added qualifiers, a man …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 01:58 PM
2	It seems that every avenue for a lonely male to find a girlfriend is being abolished and whittled down to OLD swipes An organic conversation (ultimately motivated by the desire for sex with said woman as I've established) wandering around the mall hunting for women. Now you're adding other hypothetical qualifiers to it. Guy could've been going to the store, spotted a woman he thought was gorgeous and he wanted to shoot his shot. Nothing wrong with that. And if the woman does happen to have a problem with it then it's a personal problem she's gonna have to get over.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 12:44 PM
2	It seems that every avenue for a lonely male to find a girlfriend is being abolished and whittled down to OLD swipes That's up to her to decide. A man approaching a woman he's attracted to is normal. Maybe she'll find him attractive too and she's single and they go on a date. From there they find out maybe they have shared interests, maybe they don't. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But the intention is not different just because it happened "at Starbucks when they were standing in line and he struck up a conversation about the band on her shirt and they hit it off and set up a date." Ultimately that guy at S…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 12:38 PM
0	It seems that every avenue for a lonely male to find a girlfriend is being abolished and whittled down to OLD swipes No I agree with you. And I find the above example completely normal. But I do see women on here saying that approaching a woman just based on her appearance is "weird" because he has "nothing else to go on besides her looks" and just wants to "masturbate into her." And to that I'm thinking SMH how is he supposed to get to know anything about her then? So when I see that line of thinking it makes no sense to me. And I see it often on here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 12:31 PM
3	It seems that every avenue for a lonely male to find a girlfriend is being abolished and whittled down to OLD swipes Right. But the attraction is the spark that makes the man want to get to know her. A man seeing a cute girl and deciding he wants to approach to see if he can get to know her better and if it could potentially turn into a (sexual) relationship is completely normal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 12:28 PM
5	It seems that every avenue for a lonely male to find a girlfriend is being abolished and whittled down to OLD swipes OP you stated (in regards to women saying): If you see a cute girl you shouldn't approach because it's shallow to base your romantic interest on physical appearances This is something I've noticed on this sub that women seem to say a lot, and I find it ridiculous. They say that if you approach a woman based on her appearance and knowing nothing about her that your intentions are bad because you just wanna "masturbate into her" or "use her as a human fleshlight." It's ridiculous. Yes, sex (and in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 12:14 PM
2	Not only is jealousy a normal healthy part of dating; but mate-guarding is seen as attractive No. That would be completely different. I would expect a man to shoot his shot. And I didn't mean to imply no matter what I have to step in. It was in the context of him knowing she's taken, and brazenly doing it right in front of me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/23 08:57 PM
0	Not only is jealousy a normal healthy part of dating; but mate-guarding is seen as attractive It's not about whatever her potential answer is. Obviously if I'm with a woman, I know her answer would be to shoot another guy down. It's to do with the disrespect. And yes I said men are territorial over their women. Doesn't mean they're property, just means she's mine as in taken, just as I'm hers as in taken. And I would argue men being territorial and possessive is completely normal. Men are the most violent apex predators to ever walk this earth. We are tribal, and have warred with our own…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/23 08:51 PM
1	Not only is jealousy a normal healthy part of dating; but mate-guarding is seen as attractive I understand that. And I did state not to resort to violence over something so trivial. And of course your woman will be hit on regardless. But I find it highly disrespectful for another man to hit on my woman in front of me, and again it's not necessarily to do with her, it's to do with him disrespecting me by openly and brazenly trying to take what's mine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/23 08:46 PM
19	Not many women seek casual sex, but it takes just each of them having a on-and-off with the top % men for 20/80 rule to work. She might be fucking Chad, Brad, and Thad, 🤣 LMAO.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/23 02:40 PM
-4	Not only is jealousy a normal healthy part of dating; but mate-guarding is seen as attractive I don't think women completely understand the male position here. It's not necessarily about "trusting her," as let's say in this hypothetical scenario he fully trusts her and she's fully deserving of that trust. It is considered disrespect to flirt with a woman that is "taken," and extremely blatant disrespect to flirt with a woman who is taken right in front of her man. He might as well be poking a bear. He's telling this man (without words) "I will take what's yours and you're not gonna do an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/23 12:07 PM
2	Imagine you were a man. How would you make your cheating ex regret breaking your heart? Lol. All of that is pretty G Rated. And I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean you seem like you are a nice person who can't really be malicious, or at least it would be kind of foreign to you. You're ultimately right though. It's just a lotta ppl can't be like that. They want to hurt someone else. But ultimately I think just moving on is best.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/23 01:07 AM
11	Not only is jealousy a normal healthy part of dating; but mate-guarding is seen as attractive Well obviously he was doing it wrong. He took it to the extreme to where he comes off not as protective and territorial but as insecure and terrified that you might leave him. There's a world of difference between the two. I think a man is naturally territorial in many ways, including with his women and children and I find it to be normal and from my experience women really like it. Btw, I have also experienced extremely jealous women. Women who would mate guard so hard that if a mutual female f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/23 12:38 AM
1	Need help, desperate 31 yo No problem I hope it works out for you. Just be the best you can possibly be. We all have weaknesses. We have to accept them.... But still be the best we can be.	/r/TheRedPill	27/04/23 09:20 PM
2	Need help, desperate 31 yo Ok so you're not fat/overweight. That's good. Still I would keep working out and lifting of course and try to perfect your body / physique as much as you can.. You're doing well $$$ wise, so that's good. You're not short. That's good. You say your lazy eye is a problem. That seems to be killing your confidence. Honestly I don't know too much about lazy eye, is it correctable in any way? I was gonna give you the advice of being your best as far as fitness and $$, and once your confidence is up (b…	/r/TheRedPill	27/04/23 09:13 PM
1	Need help, desperate 31 yo Before I can help you, I would need more details. What's your fitness level like? Describe your physical attributes (height, weight, if you work out, are you overweight, etc). How's your finances / professional life? Like are you doing well and have a good future / career, or are you currently stuck in a dead end minimum wage job? You state you have a lack of experience with women, this probably stems from a confidence issue. What are some other weak points in your life? Be honest. Some advice I…	/r/TheRedPill	27/04/23 08:28 PM
4	CMV: Claiming that "women make guys they like wait for sex because they don't want to be viewed as slutty" is dumb and makes no sense. I can empathize with a guy being put off if a girl he was dating wanted to wait for sex, and he later finds out she had immediate sex with guys before him and then after they dated as well. Because yeah, it sounds like she just didn’t feel chemistry with him. Yes, that's exactly the male perspective on this issue. But many, many women try casual sex a couple of times in their late teens / early 20s and realize it’s not enjoyable for them and not worth the risk. While that sounds fair in theory, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/23 11:55 AM
5	If a girl likes you, she's more likely to make you wait Standard talking points along with "every relationship is different" and others. No man having that knowledge can ever feel content knowing that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 08:16 PM
8	If a girl likes you, she's more likely to make you wait Just not for me. That right there. Thats what women don't realize. They can rationalize all the talking points and mumbo jumbo they want to, but as a man reading this, I immediately understood what the issue was and why you would never be able to be happy with this woman or accept or move past this. Women will read it and "fail to see what the issue is," no matter how clear about it on this sub we are. The male mind works differently from the female mind and vice versa.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 08:08 PM
8	Theories on why Average and Underaverage women are harsher on men than actually Cute women Exactly. It's an "ignorance is bliss" type of thing ... Same way a woman struggling to lose weight may, for example, never step on the scale (even refusing at the doctor's office).	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 04:41 PM
6	If a girl likes you, she's more likely to make you wait Exactly. Why would any self respecting man pay more to get less than Chad got for free? These days, if a woman isn't virtually begging me to be with her; I would much rather be in the gym or working... Yup. Never chase. She has to want me more than I want her. Power imbalance (and there always is one, whether slight or severe, but never fully equal) has to be in my favor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 03:12 PM
21	If a girl likes you, she's more likely to make you wait If a woman likes you for your RMV she will be inclined to use this tactic, I agree. Liking you for your RMV means she wants a relationship with you (or potentially does) and/or has labelled you as "BF material" (which we have already established in another post is not the compliment women think it is). ☝️ However, if she likes a guy for his SMV, meaning she finds him "hawt" and gets "tingles" from said man, then I will argue that she will be inclined to sleep with him much sooner. The classic ex…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 12:51 PM
11	CMV: Men aren't assholes for treating you different after a rejection You're not wrong OP. You're not required to simp and white-knight, even though some of the women and white-knights here think you are, or at the very least that you should. No one owes anyone anything for any reason after all. So why should you be required to expend your time and gas ($) on a stranger?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/23 03:26 AM
–	If she is on a relationship for money with an older man, the man still gets a better deal.. unless there is divorce Yes but that's because they've let the women in those situations get the upper hand so to speak and have them by the balls. The Beta Buxx guys complaining about dead bedrooms are married and/or have children with their women. Being married is an entanglement of the government into your business in this case, and the guy cannot just easily leave if he's dead bedroomed, as the only way is through (what's often) a long and costly divorce. His entire life would be uprooted, have to move out or find …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 09:54 PM
–	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Yes I made him pretty bad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/23 12:07 PM
5	CMV: Red Pill is nothing more than a misogynistic women hating movement I hope OP actually responds to this comment, because you're spitting facts and I wanna see what his actual rebuttals are to the points you made. Edit: and still I hear crickets chirping 🦗🦗🦗	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 04:23 PM
2	Why would any high value male date an FDS woman? If will Smith didn't have one-itis he could be bagging 1000s if not millions of chick's better than his wife Shit, maybe even BILLIONS!	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 03:19 PM
1	Why would any high value male date an FDS woman? Explain please? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but Pac was definitely a player (at least for a few years) until he married Kidada. Or you're trying to imply that he was gay? In which case: lolz.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 03:16 PM
6	Why would any high value male date an FDS woman? But the women here will tell you he "won" because he "got her in the end," lolz.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 02:35 PM
0	Why would any high value male date an FDS woman? A community of post wall shrews screeching about there being no good men while simultaneously levelling up into demanding boss bitches who don't need no man in a futile attempt to attract the top 1% of men, also known as the elusive "Alpha Buxx" (rich, feminist Chads).	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 01:22 PM
10	Why would any high value male date an FDS woman? Yeah I've seen it lol...he's my favorite artist. Anyway, then he switched up his style and got hella bitches. The man died in 1996 and Will is still competing. I'm sure he alpha widowed plenty more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 05:14 AM
31	Why would any high value male date an FDS woman? Completely alpha widowed. She still dreams about Tupac and has him tattooed on her. Will had to pay full price for what Tupac got for free.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 04:09 AM
3	Why would any high value male date an FDS woman? But my point is they're not going to attract the specific men they want ("high value") if they don't have all the stuff I listed on point (which you'll notice isn't just physical, but personality traits as well). A woman could, for all intents and purposes, be hot, yet that's not necessarily enough if you're trying to attract the "top men" (attractive, high earners, etc) because the amount of men that fit their criteria is very low, while at the same time there's tons of hot girls. So I would sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 02:43 AM
5	Why would any high value male date an FDS woman? I don't see it that way. I would see Red Pill Women as the opposite of Red Pill. Red Pill pushes men to better themselves in ways that ultimately are attractive to women (fitness, money, status, charisma, etc). So it's about actually improving yourself and making yourself more high value. The flip side to that, Red Pill Women, promotes things that women can/should do in order to be of more high value and attractive to men, such as: don't be fat (fitness), don't waste your youth because it's valu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 12:23 AM
10	Why would any high value male date an FDS woman? How is that related to being attractive to men? Exactly. The Red Pill equivalent (if they were trying to be high value to men) would be pushing something like: 1. Don't be fat 2. Be low n count 3. Be submissive and agreeable 4. Your youth is valuable so don't waste it 5. Don't be fat. Etc... Now that I write it out this is the kinda stuff Red Pill Women pushes. FDS on the other hand is pushing for a female advantage, but they're not even doing it in regards to what men want / like. Seems more li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/23 12:02 AM
1	Does the prize does get a prize for waiting to be given? Genghis Khan up in this ho. lol. While drinking out of the skulls of my conquered foes. For number 2, I just don't have the motivation to deal with that bullshit anymore. Women have just gotten needlessly more emotional and internally ugly over the years that that situation just screams more headache than necessary. I'm not dealing with emotional manipulation and games from women, and that hard to get attitude is exactly that. Yes, I have no time or energy for bullshit. I'm always very straightf…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 09:11 PM
1	Does the prize does get a prize for waiting to be given? I'm not understanding your follow on question...? You gave me the 2 examples to pick from and I stated which I found preferable. I found it preferable because (as you rightly concluded in your post) it would show how into me she is. I'm not saying this is necessarily common or realistic, however I would find it ideal if it was a girl that I was into.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 09:06 PM
–	Does the prize does get a prize for waiting to be given? True. At that point you just declare yourself a warlord and start a harem of concubines.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 08:50 PM
2	Does the prize does get a prize for waiting to be given? I'll take number 1. Yes, there's something to be said about decimating your competition and crushing your enemies (as in the 2nd case), but in the first case she's already rejected all others and you've already "won."	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 07:48 PM
2	American capitalism has destroyed dating I just want a government who respects my constitutional and human rights and leaves me the hell alone and doesn't try to impose its own morality upon society. I can't get down with either party because I fundamentally disagree with both on major issues. I would classify myself as more Libertarian, but this 2 party system we have sucks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 07:43 PM
0	Do TRP men even have interests outside of getting laid? Of course. I don't even spend any significant amount of time "trying to get laid." I hit the gym 6 to 7 days a week, yes, to keep my strength and cardio on point and to stay fit. I'm making decent $ too and yes I invest in stocks and plan for and secure my financial future. But all that is stuff I should be doing anyway. I still have plenty of free time and hobbies besides working out and $. I like hiking, ATVs / dirt bikes, shooting guns, reading / acquiring knowledge, survivalism, etc. I don't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 07:06 PM
2	If you marry in the US, you should only marry someone who earns the same or more than you, and divorce immediately if they start earning less. OP I agree. Marriage used to be something else entirely. Now it's literally a contract that binds you legally to another person (through intermixing of finances and assets) while at the same time not having any requirements whatsoever for either party. It's useless and serves no purpose other than to entangle the government into your life. Although (and I know the point you're making) I would argue that ppl just shouldn't marry at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 06:33 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Lolz	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 05:01 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I'm done with this convo because I proved (using logic) that you were wrong and you still refuse to admit it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 04:34 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) You’re not engaging in good faith Yes I am and I'm gonna show you right now how you're wrong with your assumptions and conclusions you've drawn. If I kiss the same sex, that would make ANYONE man or woman either gay or bisexual. Really? So if someone held a gun to your head or the head of your child and said they would pull the trigger if you didn't kiss a woman and you kissed a woman in order to save your life or your child's life you would now be lesbian? Of course not. Since we've now establi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 04:27 PM
2	Promiscuous women who preach that you shouldn't judge women by their sexual past are the first ones to judge virgin guys for their lack of sexual past Yes you're definitely a "late bloomer" (which of course is relative to others as a whole). But yeah I would say don't worry too much about it right now until you've levelled up so to speak. Once you're shredded, have your $ and wardrobe and everything on point (if it isn't already), and you've maxed out or close to maxed out then they'll come. Trust me. I think ppl here often put too much emphasis on height and not enough of fitness. For example, I hear about ppl who say a woman would prefer a g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 04:19 PM
5	Promiscuous women who preach that you shouldn't judge women by their sexual past are the first ones to judge virgin guys for their lack of sexual past Hey OP, how old are you? (So I can get a sense of how big of an issue this is) And also, have you identified why you're still a virgin, and are you taking any steps to actively improve so you can have success in the future (going to the gym, looksmaxxing, etc)?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 04:01 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) you’re indeed asking if I would be willing to partake in lesbian/bisexual behavior Why do ppl move the goalposts? Yes, I'm asking whether you would prefer engaging in bisexual behavior I never denied that. What I'm not asking is for you to be bisexual. Cut the bs. You cut the BS. Either engage in good faith or don't bother. Don't twist words and don't move goalposts. But a man would never question another man if he would kiss an. Attractive man Well then you're wrong because men have posited a s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 03:04 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) The thread is weird Your opinion is noted. you’re basically asking me if I would turn bisexual if I only had an ugly man to kiss on. I'm not asking if you would turn bisexual I'm asking what action (out of 2 actions is preferable). My answer is neither. Your answer is noted, but failure to follow instructions I'm gonna have to deduct a point. No one would ever ask a man this question They're free to, and some women have posed hypotheticals to me in this post, which I have answered. I’m not sure …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 02:42 PM
1	Many young people nowadays say dating is more trouble than it's worth There's some definite truth to Black Pill. I still agree with Red Pill though, but I think looks should maybe be emphasized a little more. What I don't like about Black Pill is that I think it places too much emphasis on certain factors and not enough on others. Let's take height and fitness for example. I hear a lot of Black Pillers say height matters much more than fitness and you can be out of shape as long as you're 6'3 or whatever. I disagree. I think most women would take a fit guy who's 5…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 01:23 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) A good choice. I too would take the attractive woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 01:19 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Yes I tried to mitigate the feelings of danger or future danger in my post, but I guess those fears can't be just turned off so it can play into the decision.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 01:18 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) That's the answer most women seem to be giving, that attractive woman>unattractive man because unattractive man is repulsive while attractive woman (even though they're straight) is more neutral (or at least not actively unattractive). So would you say the following is correct: Attractive man > attractive woman Attractive woman > unattractive man Unattractive woman > unattractive man ? Basically unattractive man is always the lowest level, or am I off base?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 01:16 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Thank you for your insight. Yes I'm understanding pretty well the reasonings for women's decisions based on the responses here. Majority of the them have chosen the woman too. A lot of them have said it's because the guys personality was so horrible. But then a lot of the responses have been that the woman, although not what they're attracted to, would be more of a natural experience whereas said man would be a negative experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 01:02 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Yes, I will admit Henry Cavill for example, is a more attractive human being than Mama June, and the formality matters tho. For example, let's say you showed me a picture of a man who transitioned to a woman, and now was super hot and indistinguishable from a woman. I would find that (what I thought to be natural) woman hot. If you then revealed that it was a man who had transitioned, I would instantly be turned off, knowing there was a Y chromosome, even though the physical appearance hadn't ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 12:56 PM
3	Many young people nowadays say dating is more trouble than it's worth He shoulda used the 2 step approach. Step 1) Be hot Step 2) Don't be not hot	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 03:22 AM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Your opinion has been noted. If you have nothing else, feel free to leave, you know where the exit is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 02:37 AM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Really? Can you explain why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 02:36 AM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) No. Firstly, you never gave me an answer to my question. Secondly, forget the question. The question is ultimately not important. You know what is important? Our attitude, manners, and the way we treat each other. There's no need for us to be rude or snappy with each other. So how about we start over? I'll go first. What's up? How's your day been?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 02:10 AM
2	FBI documents reveal that Red Pill terminology like "Chad", "Looksmaxxing" and "Red Pill" itself is being flagged and monitored as an indicator of incel violence or racial/ethnic based extremism. How if at all do you think this will impact TRP as a source of dating/life advice? Hell, I've read about a "sting" many years ago that turned out to be entirely made up of government agents "infiltrating" an organization made up of other government agents That's ridiculous! Lol. I have to find this article now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 02:02 AM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Well no not a quick peck. If the option was give Henry Cavill a peck on the cheek or eat out Honey Boo Boo's mom, I would give him a quick peck. Because a peck isn't sexual. But I'm thinking make out, which involves lots of tongue 🤢 and spit transfer 🤢	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 01:45 AM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) That said, I’m tongue twisting with the 300 pounder. As there can only be one superman in my relationship. 🤣 Agreed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 01:40 AM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I'm an ex military guy. And I was a grunt, so it was all men I worked with for many years (this was before women were allowed in combat positions, which was only relatively recently). So yes, I've been in hyper masculine environments too where everyone has showered together and seen each other naked regularly, and don't get me started on the gay jokes and pranks and shit they pull. So it's not that I'm homophobic, if you're implying that, and I have a couple of gay friends too. It's just my hone…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 01:35 AM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Yeah I noticed that. Lol. I was trying to make him as unappealing as possible. But then all the women on here say that his personality is a deal breaker, so then I have to further specify a secondary question to each one individually excluding his personality. Lesson learned.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 01:22 AM
1	As a straight man, being hit on by gay men is what it must feel like to be a woman being hit on all the time by men you're not attracted to I don't know about that. I've been hit on by gay men more times than I can remember. I never took it the wrong way, just declined, told them I'm straight, and that was it. I could see how if a gay man continued to press the issue how that would then be disrespectful, but I haven't had that happen. Same thing with women that have hit on me that I had no interest in, I politely declined, told them I'm flattered, and left it at that. At no time did I feel upset.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 01:16 AM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) ☝️ I disagree. Absolutes get to the root of the issue. The point was to see which option is preferable. If you allow an escape hatch and everyone says neither, no opinion is collected. We already know that neither option is good. But what ppl have a habit of doing is seeing 2 bad options and saying "neither," even though that's not really the truth because if confronted with a situation where your only option is "horrible" or "moar horrible" you would obviously pick the option of "horrible," as …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 01:04 AM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) What's the point of asking what's the point? You can keep it moving if you don't wanna engage in this post instead of coming in here with all that sass. And if it offends you so much, smash that block button.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 12:54 AM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Excellent post. And your ideas definitely make sense. Yes, I feel it's a completely different thing a man and a woman having sex. I wouldn't mind a girlfriend having sex with a woman (and it's not just because I would want a 3 some or to watch, I mean I literally wouldn't be upset about my girlfriend sleeping with other women on the side) but I would absolutely mind another man. Now to answer your questions: Also, if you were forced to have sex with a man, and only could choose whether you are t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 12:50 AM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) It seems like you want women to pick a specific option. What would make you think that? I've asked for women's opinions and they've given them. I frankly don't care what option they pick, only that they answer truthfully. You get off on it or something? On getting the opinions of anonymous women on a Reddit forum? No. It takes much more than that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 12:26 AM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Yes, I was speaking in context of sexual stuff. And yes, the sex drive / level of horniness overrides it. The hornier I am, the less disgusted I can be in the context of sex. BUT, that's only for a woman and only if I have a sexual attraction to her. I'll check your link too thank you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 11:34 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Yeah, and as long as everyone's on the same page that's what counts. What's acceptable for one is unacceptable for another and vice versa. Long as the boundaries are there, clear, established, agreed to, and respected there's really no right or wrong answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 11:21 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I think for women it makes much more sense to be actively repulsed by an unattractive man because engaging with him in any way could pose a risk to ending up with his child, which is a huge evolutionary price for women. While messing around with other women costs us nothing and in some contexts can gain us benefits. There's no reason for us to need revulsion towards other women sexually, they're no threat. This makes a lot of sense. I really don't understand where the male revulsion towards gay …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 11:20 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Thank you. You've provided some good insight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 11:14 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) That makes it harder but since I’m not single and haven’t been in a long time the idea of making out with any man especially one that is below my husband is repulsive Yes, that's understandable. woman still seems more appealing if it’s just a fun make out session I would still want the more attractive person and in my mind it doesn’t feel like cheating. As a man I wouldn't see it as cheating either. At least for me personally, I have a high tolerance for a woman I'm with engaging in stuff with a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 11:14 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) In my post I stated that the man won't get violent, your safety is guaranteed, you won't have any issues with stalking or attachment, etc. Think of it as these ppl are generated for this hypothetical via advanced technology where they're printed out like something out of Star Trek assembling their atoms or something, and once it's over, back to the mainframe they go. Is your answer still the same now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 10:09 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) That seems to be the majority opinion here from women who have answered: that the woman would be more of a neutral experience vs an active disgust of the man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 10:07 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I see. Yeah I kinda threw their personalities in last minute, I initially just had physical descriptions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:47 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I can't do a question for men tho, it's against forum rules	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:38 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) So you think I should've left the misogynistic part out and made him an equally good person, but just as unappealing physically? Would that have been better in your opinion? I threw that in there because I was trying to make him as unappealing as possible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:38 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) It would matter, because you would be forced to pick, and by being forced to pick you would select the least bad option. For example, if you were to tell me I had the choice of being beaten up or being beaten up AND whipped, I would choose being beaten up, because it's the less bad option. True the scenario is presented under duress, but that doesn't change the fact that being beaten up is superior to being beaten up and whipped.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:36 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) You said yourself you would make up with another dude (i would too) rather than with a hella ugly woman. No I didn't. I said the opposite. I said I would make out with the ugliest woman on earth as opposed to the most attractive man on earth. Yeah, it’s almost like sexuality is fluid right? For some ppl it is. For me, for example, it isn't. But this experiment seems to suggest women's sexuality is fluid, or at the very least can be fluid depending upon the scenario or choices given. We would now…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:34 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Very well written post. And I wasn't trying to claim women are bi, obviously everyone can claim what they want and I will respect that. I just, personally, have a rigid definition of what constitutes straight, and yes I am actively repulsed by male on male. But I understand your point, and many other women have claimed a similar thing, that the experience with the woman can be more neutral, while the man in this scenario is repulsive. So that seems to be the majority opinion. And as far as my de…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:31 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Thank you for your response. Let's say the guy wasn't an asshole, let's say he's a wonderful human being, but all the other points on him and on the woman stand, would your answer change or no?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:25 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Clearly everyone is picking the woman, what exactly are you proving here? Exactly that. That most straight women would pick an attractive woman over a highly undesirable man if they had to choose. There have been some outliers, but that's the majority opinion. Have u been to a club bruv? A lot of women kiss other women all the time I know this. But when I think "straight," I think that ANY heterosexual option will be superior to ANY homosexual option. But the point is, even women who identify as…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:24 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Isn't it obvious?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:18 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Interesting thank you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:18 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Well I used that metric to gauge the temperature of women on the issue in relation to my own temperature. The thought of kissing another man is disgusting for me personally, although I won't oppress another's right to do as they want and believe in freedom and equality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:17 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I wasn't calling homosexual ppl disgusting or anything like that. I was saying (male) homosexuality is disgusting for me personally (meaning im actively turned off by the idea of it).	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:15 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I understand. And no, it wasn't meant as a trap at all, as you correctly concluded.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:08 PM
0	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Not enough information was given in the very brief, one sentence hypothetical that the commenter posited to me. She merely said she had sores. What kind of sores? Are they gonna give me HIV, turn me into a zombie, etc? Or is it merely a cold sore on the bottom corner of her lip? Seeing as I had no further details, I went with the most generous scenario (for myself) and assumed the best. But I agree with you, if the choice is going to physically affect my health or give me some kind of disease, t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 09:03 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I understand this perspective. We do tend to go to extremes on this sub sometimes. But ultimately it's a good place for honesty so everyone can learn and express their opinions. I know I frequently give my opinion and get negative feedback from women. But I do state my honest opinion, with no regard to how I will look, being politically correct, or how men in general will look. Because some realities are harsh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:58 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Quick question, where would misogynistic but highly attractive man fall into this formula?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:48 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) So I did a good job of making him unappealing then? Could I have done anything different, like do you have any suggestions, or did I pretty much nail it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:36 PM
6	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) No it has nothing to do with proving my straightness. I am 100% straight. It's just that the revolting woman is less revolting to me than a man. You're reading into it too much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:31 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Ok. Fair enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:25 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Ok. I understand that. Now let's take out the misogynistic part. This guy is just as physically unappealing, however he's not a misogynist, on the contrary he spends his free time fighting for human rights (including women's issues), donates to charities, and volunteers at child cancer wards and animal shelters. Would your answer change, or no?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:21 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Yes I understand and agree with your point but in the reverse direction as a man. The most hideous woman (to me) will always be closer to an attractive woman, just by the very fact that she's a woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:17 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) So in this hypothetical you would select the woman then if you had to choose? That's what I'm gathering from your comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:14 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) True. But you didn't give me that option. You only gave me two options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:06 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Wow. You are definitely in the minority here then. And yes, I made him hygienic on purpose in order to attempt to get to the root of the issue without certain things being an excuse or an escape valve if you will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:05 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) In that case I choose the ugly one, as the assault is likely to be less violent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 08:04 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Would you rather be assaulted by a handsome guy or an ugly guy? Is that choice really going to make a difference for you as a straight man? They're both going to be horrible. But since I asked for ppl to select, I myself will select from bad choices as well. So my answer to your hypothetical is please provide more information...? Are they exactly the same in every regard except for one being handsome and one being ugly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:53 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Maybe so. But in my hypothetical ONE OF THESE IS GONNA HAPPEN REGARDLESS, so you can actively choose or the decision will be made for you. That's the premise of this hypothetical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:46 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) So you're saying for you, both scenarios are equally bad and you would basically leave it to chance or a coin flip?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:43 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I see. I was not expecting that answer. I was thinking the 2nd option (the woman) would be far less horrible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:39 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Yes, even the answers I'm getting from women who identify as straight are all basically in agreement that the woman would be less of a disgusting experience (even more of a neutral experience) than the man (who is actively disgusting).	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:37 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Fair enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:35 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Ok. So it was ultimately his personality that did him in in this case for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:30 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I understand. That's a common response I'm getting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:29 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I think men tend to maybe have more rigid definitions of this kind of stuff. I have a very rigid and absolute definition of what constitutes straight myself. But ultimately every individual can identify as they want and I'll respect that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:21 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Yes, I can agree with that conclusion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:17 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Lol. And yes I'm understanding your thinking here. Is Mama June Honey Boo Boo's mom? If so, lol, and 🤢... But alas, she has two X chromosomes, so for me is superior to Henry Cavill if I also had to choose under duress.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:15 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Ah I see. So then for you they're truly equally bad if you would leave it to chance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:12 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) What if I removed the negative personality traits then? Let's say the man is just as physically unappealing, but he's an otherwise wonderful person who does all manner of humanitarian and charitable work, and he's not misogynistic at all. Would your answer change or no?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:07 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I see. So horribly repulsive man can be worse than hot woman, even for a straight woman then I guess. I think straight women maybe aren't as disgusted by participating in homosexuality as straight men are then. And I know, I set the scenario up to be a bad and worse type of situation. But I guess for me, the worse will always be the man no matter how bad the choice of woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:05 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:03 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I see. So if I took out that part, and let's say he's a great person and spends his free time working in an animal rescue shelter, campaigning for human rights, and donating to charities, but is otherwise just as physically repulsive, would your answer change or no?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:02 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Fair enough. As other users are commenting here, the man is the more disgusting experience and even for a straight woman the experience with the woman can be viewed as "neutral" or at the very least not "actively disgusting." As far as if I had to choose in a reverse hypothetical, it wouldn't be to "prove I'm straight," it would simply be because a homosexual experience (to me) would be more "actively disgusting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 07:00 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I mean…you’re basically holding a gun to our head in this hypothetical…but okayyyy. Yes that was by design... A feature, not a bug so to speak. For the rest of your comment I commend your sense of humor and I lol'd. Does that satisfy your request for an answer??? Yes, thank you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:57 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Fair enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:55 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) As I stated in my answer to the reverse hypothetical, there is no scenario imaginable where a homosexual experience can be "not disgusting," but as my point is being proven this is not the case for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:54 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I see. So as a straight woman, a potential homosexual excounter can be viewed as more "neutral" as opposed to "disgusting" by default?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:53 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) The fact that women would find both scenarios unappealing is by design. But information can still be gleaned by forcing a choice on which one is worse, and as such we can learn which scenario is more unappealing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:51 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) I agree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:49 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) So let's say I left out the misogynistic and horrible person part, and let's say he is an excellent person that volunteers at old folks homes, children's cancer wards, and animal rescue centers, but is just as physically unappealing in my example, would your answer change or no?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:47 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Making out with someone obese, hideous, old and creepy sounds disgusting. Yes it was meant to be extremely unappealing. Would you rather eat dog shit or a leaf? The leaf. No, it means it’s the less gross option. I agree. That was my whole premise, identifying the less bad option. Also look up the Kinsey scale, it’s not all or nothing for most people, and women might not repress it as much as men (they are a bit more fluid in their sexuality). I agree. I actually think the completely 100% straigh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:45 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Fair enough. And thank you for complying with the post instructions! What if I left out all the misogynistic stuff and he's actually a great person who helps at a children's cancer center and rescues animals in his free time, but still just as physically unappealing, would your answer change?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:41 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Fair enough. I guess maybe my definition is extremely rigid then. But what about without the sores? I deliberately made it a point in my post to say they were disease free, because I thought if one had a disease (like in the woman with sores example) it would influence the decision. What about an extremely unattractive and obese woman (who's HIDEOUS) but otherwise clean and disease free, vs the most attractive man on earth?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:38 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Well I'm not going to insist anything, as whatever someone claims as theyr sexuality is what they claim/identify as. I was just pointing out my own preference in the reverse hypothetical to show that MY personal definition of straight is extremely rigid and absolute.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:36 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) For example, if I had to eat shit, I'd rather eat shit that's in the shape of a decant waffle than eat the shit that's in standard log form Lol. Fair enough. I too would choose waffle in that scenario.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:34 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Fair enough. I would personally be actively unattracted to both (in a reverse scenario) but as I stated in my post far more actively unattracted to any man, as it goes against my sexuality, and at least for me could not be neutral.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:33 PM
-2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Fair enough. So which would you choose?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:32 PM
4	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) whereas Option 2 may not be arousing but at least is not disgusting. I see. See for me, any homosexual act would be disgusting automatically, regardless of the looks of the individual. So I'm thinking maybe men who are straight are more disgusted by homosexuality than women who are straight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:31 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Honestly I wasn't expecting that answer. And thank you, your formula on your original comment is clearer now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:29 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) If I had to choose, I would choose option 2. Yes, that was the scenario, having to choose, so thank you for doing so. If I had no choice and someone held a gun to my head forcing me to make out with one of them, I'd choose the more attractive woman But why? If you're straight, and get "no arousal from women" wouldn't the man be a better choice, as at least he's from the sex you're normally attracted to (even if you're not attracted to him personally).	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:27 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Fair enough. I figured these would be the answers I got. Although I am pleasantly surprised that women are at least answering the question properly. I've noticed women tend to not like the idea of rigid hypotheticals with 2 bad options, but that's a good way to actually make a comparison and get their opinion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:25 PM
0	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) So if I left out the misogynistic part, and let's say he's a good person, but he's still just as ugly physically, would your answer change or would you still pick the girl?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:21 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Interesting. Can you explain why you, as a straight woman, would find a homosexual experience preferable to a heterosexual one?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:19 PM
0	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Well it's a question because I believe I (and I think men in general) tend to have much more rigid and absolute definition of "straight" than women do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:19 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) LMAO I know. I tried to word it funny on purpose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:17 PM
0	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Would you rather make out with Henry Cavill or some morbidly obese woman with sores. The woman with sores.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:16 PM
2	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Thank you for your response. And I see, so our definitions are at odds then and that's the reason for the inconsistency. Under my (rigid and absolute) definition, any woman who chooses 2 would be bisexual. But under a less strict definition she would not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:15 PM
3	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) That's my assumption as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:06 PM
3	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Thank you. I was very deliberate in that regard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:06 PM
1	Straight Women: Is an unattractive man or an attractive woman preferable to you? (Please read post) Thank you. And you identify as straight I'm assuming? And also can you please explain your reasoning?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 06:01 PM
2	SOME men in your league will try to use you. But if you only go for men above your league, ALL OF THEM WILL I'm speaking to the study results. The study results (whether you claim flawed or otherwise) did not show 20% of men to be found "very attractive" or even "attractive." If we include anything above average as being attractive (which I would) it was 7% were rated above average, while 0% were rated "very/most attractive," 12% as average, and 80+% as below.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 12:04 AM
1	SOME men in your league will try to use you. But if you only go for men above your league, ALL OF THEM WILL The flawed OKC study shows that women found 20% of men "very attractive" but still messaged men not in that 80%. That's incorrect. Women rated 0% of men as "very attractive." I don't have the study link in front of me but I have the graph. The 20% figure is sort of misleading because it includes men being found as "average." For example, 12 of the 20% were rated as average, right in the middle. Then 5 the next bracket above average, 2 the next, and 0 the next (the most attractive category). This…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/23 11:54 PM
1	CMV: Dumping awkward or unattractive guys into the Alaskan wilderness in late winter might make them more attractive. I'm 38. So getting ancient. And I got 2 on the same tour (Afghanistan, one in 2008 and one in 2009). But it happens. I have a buddy with 2 and I have a few buddies with 1, I have one buddy with 3 tho. That's the most I've personally seen (like a guy I personally know). And yes, I wear one Purple Heart obviously, with one bronze oak leaf cluster on it to denote the second award (I was Army), you obviously never wear two actual purple heart medals, but if you're awarded 2 you're awarded 2, but the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/23 02:52 AM
2	CMV: Dumping awkward or unattractive guys into the Alaskan wilderness in late winter might make them more attractive. Is that where you work? If so, can you speak to some of the challenges / horrors? I imagine seeing children suffer (and die) is part of it? That seems pretty horrible. Edit to add: oh I'm sorry you said you DONT want to talk about it I'm sorry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/23 02:10 AM
2	CMV: Dumping awkward or unattractive guys into the Alaskan wilderness in late winter might make them more attractive. I think it wasn't quite as bad when it was Braveheart on a field. It was still terrible, but modern warfare is uniquely destructive Old school war I think was its own animal. So it was very brutal in that you killed a lot closer up. Sure they had archers and projectile weapons, but I'm talking about Infantry combat. But modern war is its own unique animal in that you can get completely taken out and not even have seen it coming, you can for example get sniped, step on a mine, get blown up by an …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/23 02:00 AM
3	CMV: Dumping awkward or unattractive guys into the Alaskan wilderness in late winter might make them more attractive. Thank you. It was an honor and privilege, and I can't believe they paid me to do it. Yeah I know what you mean. Some guys can't take it or can't adjust mentally. And I got multiple buddies that are physically fucked up: missing a leg, missing an arm, I got one buddy missing 3 limbs (both legs one arm), got one missing an eye, one paralyzed, one with traumatic brain injury so bad he's mentally handicapped, a few are severe burn victims, etc etc. I could go on and on. And then I got a lotta buddie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/23 01:38 AM
4	CMV: Dumping awkward or unattractive guys into the Alaskan wilderness in late winter might make them more attractive. I think war makes men more attractive, but at a truly horrific, terrible price. Can confirm. I'm a combat vet with multiple tours and 2 Purple Hearts 💜. Women love violent men (or men with the potential for controlled violence). But it did come with a price, PTSD, back and knee problems, and heroin addiction (which I've beaten and I'm clean now).	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/23 01:10 AM
2	Women don't get that its not men complaining they can’t find a 10, but they can’t find 6 or 5 either Pretty much sums it up and "hulking six chad millionaire" is not the only people we're attracted to by a long shot. Of course not, and no one ever claimed that. We know very well that you women also like the hulking 6' 1" Chad millionaire, the hulking 6' 2" Chad millionaire, the hulking 6' 3" Chad millionaire, the hulking 6' 4" Chad millionaire, among others, plus all the billionaire versions as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/23 12:56 AM
2	Women don't get that its not men complaining they can’t find a 10, but they can’t find 6 or 5 either I’ve heard this “women just exist and get free stuff” sentiment and I’ve never had that, not even close Well of course we do exaggerate on this sub, I do admit that. We say that because it's relative. As a man, no one will ever give you anything or have any sympathy for you (not just with dating, with anything). We live in a cruel, competitive, and cutthroat world, and we see women don't have our struggle so we contrast the experiences, and yes some exaggerating happens. But the overall contrast…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/23 12:22 AM
4	Women don't get that its not men complaining they can’t find a 10, but they can’t find 6 or 5 either I agree. I think both sexes can be delusional honestly. That comment she made was just ridiculous tho. But I did lol to be fair, it painted a vivid picture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 11:27 PM
2	Women don't get that its not men complaining they can’t find a 10, but they can’t find 6 or 5 either If you got hate in your heart let it out. Just reach deep down inside and let that hate out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 11:21 PM
3	Women don't get that its not men complaining they can’t find a 10, but they can’t find 6 or 5 either You're not a 3 to 4 lolz. I knew it. Soon as you said you were 120 pounds (which is not fat) and not deformed I knew it was impossible. Just so you know, a sub 5 non fat and non deformed young woman doesn't exist. Being "not fat" is automatic 5 minimum.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 10:23 PM
0	Women don't get that its not men complaining they can’t find a 10, but they can’t find 6 or 5 either It’s the men who cry they can’t have an 8 when they are a chubby, neckbeard that works part time at Wal-mart, heavy breathing typing all angrily on here that the OF model who does his favorite anime cosplay won’t ever actually respond to his comments and pissed she’s dating a hot guy. Feel better? It's good to let it all out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 10:17 PM
1	Dunning–Kruger effect in action: Those who suggest that men who struggle with dating hire sex workers are the ones who know the least about it How's the experience been?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 09:57 PM
1	Dunning–Kruger effect in action: Those who suggest that men who struggle with dating hire sex workers are the ones who know the least about it Agreed. If you're an athlete or actor or something who knows he can slay regularly, then hiring professional, top tier escorts is much more acceptable. But for a normal man (mere mortals) who wants to pay a chick to fuck? That defeats the whole point of it. It's like a hunter going hunting in a game park where the animals are chained up right in front of him to shoot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 09:56 PM
1	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? How many men do you personally know, in real life, who have actually done this purely out of a devotion to or belief in the "red pill", though? Well this stuff is, slowly but surely, becoming more widespread and common knowledge, so more and more men have "the playbook" so to speak. And I think this terrifies women. They don't like men "gaming the system" and want "lesser men" to know their place. It's gatekeeping. Same way old money doesn't like new money, because they feel like ppl who don't d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 03:35 PM
1	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? Women like authenticity, they like strength of character, they like diversity of experience I agree. They can spot the pushy red pill/PUA guys I disagree. and find it annoying and creepy I agree. So I disagree that they can always spot Red Pill guys. If a man works hard enough and gets his fitness, money, game, social skills, etc on point he is literally indistinguishable from a "natural." But at that point, you can argue that he IS actually the high value man that the world sees, as his attribu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 03:15 PM
1	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? The point I was making was that testosterone, which fuels our sex drive, is a potent motivator for the things men do. Men have desire for sex with women. This is the reason we are productive. Yes, it's from a very zoomed out perspective. But take the smartphone example. True I said "some man invented it." I will concede that one singular man didn't invent it, and it was a group effort. However, the point remains, those men that worked on it were trying to advance in their field and their company…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 02:54 PM
1	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? I don't think so, and here's why: Firstly, all men "put on acts to get laid." Everything a man does ultimately stems from a desire to get laid. This cell phone I'm typing on right now, some man invented it because he wanted to get laid. How you ask? Well, inventing a cell phone would get the man money (which women like) and status (which women also like), which would both increase said man's probability of getting laid. Secondly, if women didn't like it because it's "very easy to spot" said fake…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 02:07 PM
1	Your wife/husband doesn’t want to do certain sexual activities that they did with the ex with you. Your response. Which is why you always have to have her feeling like you could replace her or leave her at any time (dread game). Never let a woman feel as though she's finally got you and is safe and protected with a marriage, because a marriage entitles her to your assets and is backed up by the full force of the government (men/simps with guns who can and will visit violence upon you in order to force compliance). You see, EVERYTHING in this world is ultimately backed up with violence (or threat of violence…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 12:31 PM
2	How can men exploit their sexuality? It can only stem from a twisted, degenerate mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 12:25 PM
2	How can men exploit their sexuality? Firstly, I didn't defend sexual exploitation at all or prostitution in any of my comments. I dislike the idea, and could never visit a prostitute myself, because (as you correctly stated) there's an issue of consent. I would never find an experience enjoyable knowing I'm paying $ to a woman and that's the only reason she's sleeping with me. So let's firstly not lump every man into the category of supporting prostitution or the exploitation of women. Secondly, it's WOMEN who are pushing this sex …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 05:09 AM
1	Q4M - Is fit, feminine, friendly, and cooperative REALLY all you're asking for? Your analysis is spot on. Women have a hard time understanding how very simple man is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 04:33 AM
2	Your wife/husband doesn’t want to do certain sexual activities that they did with the ex with you. Your response. OP, as you know, if this is the case the man has already failed, and he failed long ago for it even get to this point. There's literally no coming back from this. Even if she now "agreed" to do anything and everything you wanted so you won't leave her, you've still lost because she did them willingly for previous men. The marriage is over and I would see divorce as the only option. But.... Men get screwed in divorce. So the true answer is don't put yourself in this position to begin with (marria…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 04:19 AM
4	How can men exploit their sexuality? I never said it’s equivalent. Show me exactly where I said that. I’ll wait. Well since you've so narrowly tailored the standard to me having to show you "exactly where you said it's equivalent" you are now displaying that you're either trolling or not arguing in good faith. But what the hell, maybe I'm wrong. So here goes nothing. You state that men could "go gay for pay." Then you state the following: Do you really think that women who prostitute themselves do it because they’re attracted to th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 03:58 AM
8	How can men exploit their sexuality? No. It's sick to equate having sex with an unattractive member of the sex you're attracted to to having sex completely against your sexuality (as in the gay for pay suggestion). They are not equivalent WHATSOEVER. I would rather have sex with the ugliest, dirtiest, most obese, most deformed and grotesque woman on earth as opposed to have sex with the cleanest and most attractive man on earth. They are not equivalent whatsoever, just as the esteemed poster above me pointed out, and I was agreeing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 03:40 AM
6	How can men exploit their sexuality? The arguments and false equivalencies would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that they think they're actually making a good argument. It's sick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 03:29 AM
5	We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enough Men in their teens and early 20's tend to not want to settle down these days, but I think that has to do with the availability of commitment free sex in this post feminism world. "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" and all that. It's an unfortunate side effect to the women who actually do want to settle down early.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 01:34 AM
5	We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enough But I guess my point is men are not chasing around 4/10 for relationships or marriage Chad isn't. And in this context I'm not talking about a 10/10 male underwear model. I'm using Chad to refer to those 6's and 7's that said 4 woman is hoping to attract. The men who would have no problem committing to said 4/10 woman are invisible to her. I only know one unattractive married woman and the husband always struggled financially Do "decent men" not struggle financially? A lot of ppl struggle financi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 01:00 AM
6	We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enough I would think a 4/10 woman could find a compatible man who was similar in attractiveness (looks match) to marry very easily as long as she didn't have a hoe phase and allow Chad to pump and dump her, wasn't fat, and is serious about finding marriage in her early to mid 20s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 12:43 AM
13	We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enough Men are not rushing to marry a 4/10. Chad is not rushing to marry a 4/10.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 12:36 AM
1	What frustrates me about PUA is it's effectiveness Yup, it works. And it will continue to work unless women stop being receptive to it and allowing it to work. Don't hate the player hate the game. You cannot be mad at a chess ♟️ player who wins by operating within the rules of the game. He didn't make the rules he just played by them. If you want to play a different game by different rules then so be it. But, as you pointed out, this stuff works. And why does it work? Because women are receptive to it and like this behavior. They just don't like…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/23 04:30 PM
2	CMV : As a Man i believe using Game and Manipulation is immoral, but i believe u have to do it because otherwise u cant compete, and this is actually sad. You'd only be attracting emotionally insecure women What's wrong with that? Don't they need loving and sex too? I've been negged online and a few times in real life, but those negs have no bearing on how I see myself, The guy who negged you wasn't very good then. The key is to neg a girl in such a subtle way that she doesn't even identify it as a neg. The guy who attempted to neg you failed because you identified it as a neg. Negging properly is a beautiful work of art, like the Mona Lisa for ex…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/23 04:20 PM
1	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? But then why are women so upset about the proliferation of Red Pill? I just saw a post on here today with a woman saying she's upset because Red Pill stuff works, and she witnessed it firsthand last night. It seems to me that they're mad that men have been documenting their behavior, taking notes, comparing notes, and that we now have a checklist/rulebook by which to "game the system." To me it seems they're mad because the men aren't being honest and aren't being their "authentic self" (which t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/23 04:03 PM
50	What frustrates me about PUA is it's effectiveness A perfect translation from woman to English.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/23 12:55 PM
1	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? I agree with all that you said actually. But I think women still prefer a "natural" with their lizard brain.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/23 01:41 AM
3	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? The Simp Army makes it so this is not really necessary. Women aren't even the cause of the problems men face in this day and age. Ultimately, simps are the true root of all evil.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 11:44 PM
3	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? I just think it's on a subconscious level. Not everything we do stems from rational thought. Some of it is from lizard brain.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 11:39 PM
1	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? So, you’ve heard a few individuals express some stupid ideas. More than a few. The problem is these stupid ideas eventually are codified into law if certain parties get their way. Take feminism for example: an evil, oppressive, vile, hateful group of domestic terrorists. They unfortunately have a lot of power, and have slanted the criminal justice and civil justice system already in favor of women and have brought oppression upon the modern western man. Judging by their previous actions, it's sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 11:13 PM
1	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? Well I'm not a legal expert. I just know that I've heard rape equated to trivial things (I'm talking about what someone "feelz" is rape or should be rape, not what it legally is). I've heard of women saying a man farting deliberately in an enclosed elevator is "fart rape" because he's violating her bodily autonomy by forcing her to smell it. LMAO 🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 10:30 PM
3	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? Right. I wasnt talking about it in the criminal sense of current law. I was saying I've heard the scenario that I painted called that, meaning put the right (or wrong) woman in the right position and it could potentially get on the law books at some point, because there are those with those opinions. Obviously, I find that to be a ridiculous position.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 10:18 PM
1	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? Why on earth do you believe any of this? You’re just making shit up and saying that’s how all women feel but we just don’t know it and need you to tell us what we think. Where do you even get that kind of powerful audacity/ignorance combo? I didn't make the rules, I just have to play by them. I'm just a realist, and know that biology is what it is. I'm not upset about it, I'm accepting of it. I’m not sure how to answer your hypothetical because it presupposes slavery and women not being humans T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 09:31 PM
10	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? Lolz, exactly. The days of Blue Pill brainwashing are coming to an end. And women HATE this loss of power and control.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 09:14 PM
8	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? Anything that appears to be a 'cheat code' to gain sexual access is the ultimate betrayal (and even worse) to women. Agreed, most definitely. What's interesting is that when it comes to any 'cheat code' or 'trick' a man might perform are all pretty much on par with r@pe in a woman's mind (and plenty of men too). Interesting indeed. I've even heard women equate a man pretending to have more income than he does and then sleeping with a woman to be "r@pe by deception", because they say she wouldn't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 08:06 PM
3	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? But you didn't address what I said. Can you answer my hypothetical about the basement dweller being issued a bangmaid? My point was merely that women don't like TRP by and large, and this is the reason that I believe it is so. Also, when you gave your example of rather being with the guy who had struggled, what you did was frame it (as is typical) from the most advantageous position for you (the woman) and select someone you think you'd be most compatible with in a relationship. I wasn't asking …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 07:59 PM
2	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? I mean I'm personally Red Pilled myself, not Black. I just feel a lot of the hate for TRP stems ultimately from the fact that women don't like to give away their most valuable asset (sexual access) to undeserving or "lesser men." So they're on guard about making sure they're not being fooled by a former D & D playing Cheeto connessuire. Just like when they hate when a guy lies about his income (which I've seen them try to equate to "rape by deception").	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 05:59 PM
8	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? Right. But who would a woman PREFER, all other things being exactly equal in this hypothetical: A "Chad" who's always naturally been fit and sociable and popular Or a basement dweller who levelled up? I think women prefer the "naturalz" Don't get me wrong, I agree with self improvement and all that. But the motivation of men to self improve often comes from a desire to do well with ladies (sexually). For example, take that basement dweller (non levelled up version) and issue him one standard iss…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 05:33 PM
9	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? Right, but my point is that guys who like to eat Cheetos, stay fat, neglect their hygiene, live in the basement, and play videogames WONT get laid. That's their "natural state" and who they are. But they want to get laid. So they do all these things for self improvement so they can get laid. But at its core, it's dishonesty, because women want the guys who naturally do all the good stuff and didn't have to learn to do it. Hence the hate for Red Pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 05:06 PM
31	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? Women also associate a man’s hyper-willingness to change his activities/morals to be attractive with inherent dishonesty. I want to like you because I like you, not what you think I like. And this is why I believe women hate Red Pill. They don't want a basement dwelling, obese, video game playing, neckbeard who decided he wanted to get laid so spent the last 3 years getting fit, squaring away his social skills, acquiring "game," getting hobbies/pretending to be a well rounded person, stacking hi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 04:33 PM
7	Q4women Does saying guys should work on themselves first to find dating success make any sense when it's women deciding what men should become? Firstly, when women tell a man to "work on himself," it's not in any way, shape, or form advice being given to help him try to get laid. She's doing it for her own (and the rest of the hive's) convenience. She's removing him from the dating market, like a pawn being taken off the chessboard ♟️. Now said man won't be approaching or bothering women for as long as he's "working on himself," which will hopefully be years (or forever). One less creepy guy to have to worry about. Secondly, let's say t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/23 04:13 PM
0	Would you agree that a lot of Red Pilled men suffer from the Madonna/whore complex? ☝️🗣️ Hear ye, hear ye! This man speaks the truth. Come one, come all, and witness for yourselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 10:25 PM
1	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. I already addressed exactly where to find the proof.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 06:28 PM
1	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. I read your entire post, but couldn't identify an actual, coherent argument against my points. You may as well have typed "no u" and it would have been a stronger argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 06:23 PM
2	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. Hey you're the one acting like she's gonna break up with him, not me. Seems pretty relevant. Whether she "breaks up with him" or not is irrelevant, because as I said it's not a measure of success if you can marry a woman. Women are judged on their success by the quality of man they can lock down. Men are judged on their success by the quality of woman they can sleep with while providing nothing (no committment, no money, just showing up dick in hand basically). Ok so you're just a child then I g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 06:15 PM
2	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. I mean she's still gonna marry him lol. Firstly, that's irrelevant to the argument I made. Secondly, if you think that a woman "marrying a man" is a measure of whether he wins, then I have the following to say to you: lolz Maybe your ideas about women are not exactly representative of reality My "ideas" as you call them are merely what are known as "Red Pill truths".... Now, the word "truths" is the operative word you should be focused on. The fact that women operate on preselection is a scienti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 05:42 PM
19	Q4M, have you ever rejected a girl because she was too nice? Men don't like Harley Quinn because she's aggressive and kicks ppls asses. Harley Quinn is attractive to men for the following reasons: 1) She's hot 2) She's a total freak (sexually), this is where the love of "crazy girls" stems from 3) She's submissive (to Joker, and will do anything and everything for him) 4) Complete loyalty only for Joker and no one else These are the fantasy attributes that guys find appealing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 02:32 PM
1	Q4M, have you ever rejected a girl because she was too nice? No. "Too nice" is not a downside for men or a turnoff, unlike how it is for women when it comes to men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 02:28 PM
3	Men using women for their bodies is basically the same as women using men for their resources (money, status, attention and so on), in terms of how it feels. Well I've made my point. You don't agree. So I guess we can let our esteemed hypothetical reading audience be the final arbiter and draw their conclusions. I do stand by all points I've made.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 01:42 PM
6	Men using women for their bodies is basically the same as women using men for their resources (money, status, attention and so on), in terms of how it feels. Nobody is born hot (I assume it's by accident that you're implying babies are hot), You would be right to assume that, I thought the point was obvious. Now to address your main points: We are speaking of value, correct? What do men value? Youth and beauty. Youth: every woman will be young at some point in their lives. Beauty: men don't have ridiculous beauty standards and aren't asking women to be hot supermodels. Most men find most young women (18 to 25) who are not fat to be attractive. So aga…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 12:36 PM
12	Men using women for their bodies is basically the same as women using men for their resources (money, status, attention and so on), in terms of how it feels. How so? They're born with it, they just need to not fuck it up (not get fat). Women are born with everything that men value (youth and beauty / not being fat). I would say it requires maintenance or preventative maintenance.... Unless of course they fuck it up and get fat as a kid or something and then they have work to do. But my point is a woman is born with everything she needs. A man isn't born with muscle on his frame, charisma, money (unless he's born rich), or confidence/competence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 12:13 PM
23	Women lie about their partner preferences. They self-report preference for intelligent and ambitious men, but they chose the most attractive ones ignoring other traits. That's why you NEVER fall for that trick. You never open up. And IF you open up, you only do so in a very small amount that doesn't make you look vulnerable, and you basically use it to your advantage by flipping it around, open up a small tidbit that will provide her more questions than answers in order to provide even more mystery and wonder. Never listen to what they say and believe it, only believe their actions. And luckily, we have the rule book in front of us. But also, NEVER let them kno…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/23 12:43 AM
4	Women lie about their partner preferences. They self-report preference for intelligent and ambitious men, but they chose the most attractive ones ignoring other traits. Game, set, match. 🗣️ Pack it up boys! We're done here! This is the answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 09:01 PM
2	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. That's a ridiculous argument, and nothing at all like the situation at hand. Please come with actually similar analogies. In case you don't understand why this analogy is ridiculous, in your chocolate analogy, you would have to just eat and hope you're not poisoned. On a dating app, you can SEE the man and if you like him or not. So yeah your chocolate analogy would work if all the poison chocolates were labelled and all you had to do was merely pluck the lone and safe to eat chocolate. Come on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 08:14 PM
1	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. I think a better analogy would be what's better, looking for a needle in a haystack (woman seeking a man she likes on Tinder) vs looking for a needle that doesn't exist in a haystack (straight men looking on Grindr). In the first example, the needle is there, even if hard to find. In the second example, there is 0 chance of success. Your Grindr argument has exactly 0 strength or credibility.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 08:10 PM
3	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. No it's not. It's a world of difference. If you said 98% and 99% is a negligible difference I would agree with you. But 100% incompatible matches means he has 0 compatible matches. And there's a world of difference between 0 and any non zero number.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 08:06 PM
3	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. Firstly, I apologize I had edited my comment to add further details in my example. Please see that. And now to respond to your comment: if nerdy hot girl is a trope then she's in demand. Yes, but in this specific example the point is other men don't notice her. And the one guy does, and every guy can relate because he struck gold. So girls that aren't in demand but are hot are in demand (for the guy that finds her) If any man or woman is actively rejected from the dating circle then something is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 12:47 PM
5	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. So men will be interested in a woman that other men actively don't want to date? That's correct. It's actually ideal. It's even a trope, the nerdy girl who's hot (to him, because he notices but no one else does). It's entirely possible for the most popular guy in school to see a geeky D & D girl and get with her because no one else noticed that she's actually a total cutie. You NEVER see the reverse. You never see the most popular cheerleader in school pick out and date the nerdy guy who all the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 11:42 AM
11	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. I mean don't get me wrong, I don't like having to play these silly little games and mind tricks. It would be better if everyone could just "be themselves" and operate normally. But unfortunately I don't make the rules so I have to play by them... But also one of the rules is NEVER let them know that you know the rules lol, because they only want a man that "naturally" adheres to the rules, not one who learned the rules and plays by them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 02:33 AM
3	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. I'm relaxed 😎	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 02:18 AM
15	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. But they don't want you to join hobbies in order to meet women either. They do NOT like men seeking out opportunities for women. They operate on "feelz" and want you to just naturally and organically run into a woman (but don't you dare have been looking for one). See, men are logical and pragmatic. We approach situations like a math problem. A man thinks: "I want to find a woman that meets x, y, and z requirements, so I'm going to do a, b, and c in order to maximize my odds." Women HATE this me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 01:52 AM
32	"Insecure" led to an interesting conversation on gender and dating success. Bro, you done goof'd. Here's why: women operate on preselection (unlike men). She thought you had "30 matches" which means she thought you had "several options, including her, and you picked her out of all the many options available." You bursted her bubble. No woman wants to hear what you just told her. You should have let her continue to think she's the lucky one for you (the prize) picking her. Of course I don't know your exact situation or any further details about your relationship. But bas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/23 01:10 AM
1	Men, can you explain the urge to sacrifice your life for your woman? Good topic OP! 👍 For me, I'm not going to 100% chance of death sacrifice my life for a random person, as my duty is to remain alive and protect those I love. I will RISK my life to defend a person who needs help tho. Now if you fall into a category of ppl that I love, then I will give my life to protect you. It's done for 2 reasons: the love I have for the person, and also (selfishly) my own honor and reputation. Living my life labelled as a "coward" is something I could not deal with. Finally, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/23 12:38 PM
–	Another AF/BB example. Do women really think that the “BF” material is winning? First and foremost men and women aren't the same and value different things. A romantic relationship between a man and woman is, primarily, and first and foremost, a sexual relationship. This is why heterosexual men when seeking a partner first and foremost exclude based upon sex, which is why all men are excluded as potential partners off the bat first, because men cannot provide what heterosexual men are looking for, which is sex with a woman. Sure there are other things that go into selecting…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 06:00 PM
–	Another AF/BB example. Do women really think that the “BF” material is winning? This makes sense ngl. Someone with some sense I see. It's refreshing to not just have someone respond to my points with the equivalent of "no u"	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 01:00 PM
7	Another AF/BB example. Do women really think that the “BF” material is winning? The difference is that men treat "wifey material" better than the women they just fuck... They commit to wifey material. Women treat "BF/Husband material" worse than they treated Chad, because Chad got full entry for free, while husband material guy has to "pay full price." Therein lies the difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/23 05:02 PM
5	Women's passivity and ease of dating makes it hard to feel sympathy for their dating struggles Lots of women have sex with, date, and marry fat and short men. ... AFTER chasing, sleeping with, & pining after Chad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/23 05:25 AM
1	What passes as 'creepy behavior' is entirely subjective accuses her of only going for Chaaaaad What man would do this irl? Have you seen a man call a woman a "Chad Chaser" or even mention Chad irl? Seems more like an online thing when we are speaking in generalizations and trends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/23 04:48 AM
1	CMV: Why some women have a problem with age gap relationships and why men seek them We'll laugh about it together later. Doesn't matter, had sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/23 02:57 AM
6	CMV: Why some women have a problem with age gap relationships and why men seek them I've done it. I think it's weird "Watch what they do, not what they say."	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/23 02:06 AM
5	The “modern woman” is changing, and the “modern man” needs to adapt to the change Rule # 1) Don't be fat; Rule # 2) Don't not be not fat	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/23 01:02 PM
5	The reason why older male/younger female age gap relationships are shamed: Most women on here will heavily imply, if not outright state, that the young woman approaching the older man is either a gold digger, has some mental health issues, or doesn't have the agency to know what she's doing and is perpetuating her own abuse at the hands of this ruthless pedophile (the older man). They would imply a sort of Stockholm Syndrome and make her out to be the victim anyway, regardless of if she initiated or not. At least that's the vibe I've gotten from a lot of women on here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/23 01:05 AM
3	Guys, you have 2 options, which would you choose? In the real world the beauty comes with youth. It's both youth and beauty, but beauty is superior to youth. For example, a chick who's unattractive at 23 is probably going to be still unattractive at 35 (but even worse). Likewise, a chick who is 35 and smoking hot, was probably even more smoking hot at 23. Exceptions exist of course but I'm generalizing. But I would say beauty comes first, then youth. Youth also factors into longevity. For example, let's say I meet a hot 40 year old. How much lo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 05:03 AM
2	Guys, you have 2 options, which would you choose? Because B looks 40 and A looks 23. Allow me to present the following formula for hypotheticals: Assuming all else is exactly even.... Woman who is 23 and looks 23 > woman who's 40 and looks 23 > woman who's 23 and looks 40 Out of those 3 options, I didn't get the first one and had to choose from the 2nd and 3rd. So I chose the 2nd because it's superior to the 3rd. The actual age number is not entirely relevant. If we lived in a world with 1000 year old vampire immortals, for example, I would dat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 04:57 AM
2	Guys, you have 2 options, which would you choose? If I had to pick, I'll take A.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 04:47 AM
2	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women She asked for the studies, you were kind enough to link them.... And yet, I hear crickets chirping 🦗🦗🦗 No response from OP?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/23 01:35 AM
1	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women We went over this. "Sexually mature" means the ability of an organism to reproduce. It does not mean "sexually experienced" or whatever else you're trying to make it mean. Sexually mature is a scientific term. A female who can get pregnant is sexually mature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 10:14 PM
1	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women That's another argument entirely. Words have meanings. An 18 year old is both sexually mature and legal. Those are actual facts (both of them). One cannot ever be changed (biological) and one is a social construct with an arbitrary number which can be changed (legal). But as it stands, my statement is true. On an 18 year old woman's birthday she is both sexually mature and legal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 09:28 PM
1	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women You're defining the term incorrectly. Straight from Wiktionary: sexual maturity is the capability of an organism to reproduce. Can an 18 year old reproduce? Yes. Then she's sexually mature. That is what the term means. So do you now concede that an 18 year old is both legal and sexually mature? Or do you still want to disagree just because?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 09:18 PM
3	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women My question still stands though. We are not discussing minors, but legal adults, correct? School is irrelevant. There are 15 year olds in college and 40 year olds doing remedial high school.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 03:32 PM
3	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women Who said anything about minors? I didn't see that anywhere in the OP. I thought she stated "18" and this entire topic was about adults.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 03:29 PM
2	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women Did Chad have to pay? There lies your answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 03:11 PM
1	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women I can't presume what men may or may not do in a hypothetical, that's why I answered "probably." But my initial argument was about men being attracted to legal, biologically/sexually mature adults. You're wanting to straw man it to make it about something that's not currently legal and is heavily frowned upon. This is a disingenuous tactic. First, how about you address and find flaw in my initial argument. If and when we've hashed that out, then we can move on to your hypothetical.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 02:30 PM
1	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women My argument was that 18 year olds are fully sexually mature. Let's not straw man this into something that it's not. My point stands that 18 year old WOMEN are fully sexually mature and science and biology are on my side. Men being attracted to these fully sexually mature adult, female homo sapiens is natural and normal. That's my argument. So just to recap: My side: science and biology Your side: ick and feelings	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 02:11 PM
2	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women How does that make the argument null? You could be a mother already at 18 and still grow 2 inches. Height is not a measure of sexual maturity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 02:05 PM
1	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women Probably.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 01:57 PM
1	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women Idk, you tell me	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 01:42 PM
3	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women Exactly. I was 18 fighting a war in a foreign country already. Certainly not a boy, I was grown.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 01:25 PM
5	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women ☝️ I disagree. All that is subjective to the individual. You have women who are 25 who look 16. Is being attracted to that grown 25 year old woman "wrong?" What about women that are 18 and look 25? What about women who never mature and are 40 years old still "acting like children?" It's all subjective and varies by individual. The only objective standard is biology. Biology and science doesn't care what society says or thinks, it tells things as it is. And I contend there's nothing wrong with a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 01:17 PM
5	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women Firstly, LOL @ "child" Secondly...Well, I was gonna make a second point and follow up question, but we are stuck at square one if you think 18 is a child.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 12:49 PM
6	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women Time is arbitrary when it comes to attraction. If you took a beautiful 18 year old woman's picture and showed it to a man, not knowing the age of said woman, or better yet, telling him that she's 23, he would find her sexually attractive. If you later revealed the truth and said "sorry, we lied, she's really only 18," his attraction would not suddenly change. He still finds that exact same woman in the picture just as sexually attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 11:55 AM
5	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women Sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 11:50 AM
8	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women Science disagrees with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 11:49 AM
5	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women I guess the overwhelming majority are "unwell and need help" in your opinion. This cannot merely be dismissed as some small deviant subsection of men. The overwhelming majority of men find sexually mature women attractive, so I would argue it's normal and anyone who doesn't is an outlier. Do you have a bf/husband? If I had to bet my life I would bet he finds them attractive. And if he's told you otherwise I would bet my life that he's lied to you because men know our natural biology is "cringe" …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 11:48 AM
5	Being attracted to 18 year old's is comparable to a high n count women So being biologically attracted to a fully sexually mature woman is "gross" to you? Just the mere attraction, correct? Fine. I guess literally 99.9% of (straight) men are gross to you. I personally don't think the comparison is relative as one is a behavior that only some women partake in (being promiscous) and one is an innate biological attraction. But if 99.9% of men are gross to you so be it. Nothing can be changed because men can't just stop being attracted. You should know this. Unless you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 11:36 AM
1	Average men gain nothing from being sex positive and against purity culture. A respectable stance 👍	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 01:33 AM
1	Average men gain nothing from being sex positive and against purity culture. 🤣🤣🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 01:31 AM
0	Average men gain nothing from being sex positive and against purity culture. 👍 couldn't have said it better myself. The woman who sleeps around treats the fuckbois BETTER than her husband who commits to her, while the man who's pumping and dumping hookups is treating those hookups worse and his wife better. There lies the difference. We are not the same (men and women).	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 12:34 AM
3	Women who claim men left them after sex are just shifting blame to men Post nut clarity is a thing. Also, sometimes the "juice isn't worth the squeeze," meaning the effort required isn't worth the continual access to sex. For example, I've had to stop sleeping with a chick who was hot and a freak because she was "crazy." We would have great sex but always end up fighting about something stupid after (I honestly now think the fighting thing got her off). And that's not my get down, so I realized a nut here and there isn't worth the headache. So I believe there can d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 12:21 AM
2	The Red Pill Rage Loop Well thank you for your answer. I believe TRP doesn't really promote anything except awareness. It provides insight into female nature that may not necessarily be politically correct or socially acceptable to discuss (which is why it tends to be discussed online mainly, and less so in person). I see it as a tool. For example, a car is a tool. I can do nothing with it and let it rust in my driveway. I can utilize it in a productive manner to haul my literal ass where I need to go. Or I can run th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/23 12:10 AM
2	The Red Pill Rage Loop The red pill offers proactive solutions that you can use to overcome your issues even if they are unethical considering TRP pushes the dark arts as its main method. Can you provide an example or 2 of what you think about TRP is unethical?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/23 09:53 PM
0	You can't expect women to care about "purity", as long as they keep getting inconsistent messages from men..... So once a woman has sex, she is FOREVER governed by different rules??? Now you're getting it. 👍	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/23 08:48 PM
3	Newbie Question: Why does it seem that Girl's "party phase" is actually from 18 to 24 maximum? The Manosphere groups makes it seem like its 18-30 but Experience has taught me otherwise. What bothers me is you women giving it up freely to Chad , Pookie and Ray Ray Hey hey hey! Don't forget about Tyrone!	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/23 08:15 PM
1	Q4M, what romantic things (OUTSIDE OF SEX) would you like to get from your partner? No problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/23 12:27 AM
1	Q4M, what romantic things (OUTSIDE OF SEX) would you like to get from your partner? Since you said nothing sexual: I wouldn't say I have any specific things that I like romantically. Just in general, a woman who shows a lot of interest/effort is a big plus in the romance department. For example, I had a woman who would make collages (pics or videos) with us in them. I had another who surprised me by writing and performing a song all about me. So it can be anything really, whatever the woman's style or comfort level is in that regard, but anything that shows genuine caring or in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/23 10:53 PM
2	D-Count ≠ N-Count and the Fallacy of the Hypocrisy Argument Good suggestion. Yes I'll add that too. And yes I'll definitely be posting it again soon as I'm able to. I appealed but I'm not holding my breath on winning the appeal. But I'm for sure gonna get this post in at some point, and yes I'll add in v count lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/23 03:38 PM
2	D-Count ≠ N-Count and the Fallacy of the Hypocrisy Argument Absolutely. And thanks for the feedback. It's now been proven with numbers and correct definitions that men who hold this position are not hypocrites. I'm also hoping to see use of the term "d-count" more often in this sub, if only for better clarification and more accurate communication. I will admit I didn't coin the term tho, I believe you did in another comment elsewhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/23 02:49 PM
2	How can a man attain power and status, to be more attractive? It's absolutely relative. In my opinion it's better to be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 09:24 AM
2	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another Absolutely. I was just thinking about that actually. An entire post needs to be done in fact to get this change out there because "n-count" doesn't accurately reflect the issue at hand here, yet it's all this sub uses. Hear ye, hear ye: ☝️ I hereby proclaim that "D-Count" it is from now on!!	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 08:38 AM
1	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another By the definition yes. If her standard is "don't sleep with women," and I haven't met that standard WHILE ☝️ she has met it, then no she wouldn't be a hypocrite. Luckily for men that tends to not be a standard women hold, but they're free to hold it without being hypocritical. Women in fact hold the same standard we do and frown upon sleeping with men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 08:34 AM
1	Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics? That's true. They don't want someone masquerading as good genes, they would want a "natural."	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 08:31 AM
0	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another ☝️ I disagree. And you haven't pointed out any flaw in my argument. Your main point was literally: "Yes they are." If you can point out a logical inconsistency in my argument I'll be happy to reconsider.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 01:00 AM
5	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another Well said. Ppl need to understand that men and women are different and want different things. Standards, preferences, expectations, and roles in the relationship do not have to be the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 10:29 PM
1	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another Relevant detail because you're holding yourself to a different standard. Absolutely not. I would never look down upon someone for something I do myself. I didn't choose my attraction or hers. I'm merely stating an action which I find to be distasteful (sleeping with men).	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 10:01 PM
2	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another You live up to it because you're not sexually attracted to men. Irrelevant detail. I live up to it nonetheless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 09:58 PM
4	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another I don't agree. I believe "don't take dicks'' is a completely non-hypocritical standard, because I live up to it. The fact that I'm heterosexual is just a detail, a cause for this effect if you will. But from a purely logical and philosophical standpoint, I believe I've demonstrated that it is not hypocritical for men to sleep around with women while expecting women to not sleep around with men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 09:55 PM
2	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another I would want to attain that first position spot, and I'm confident that I could. But, hypothetically, let's say I couldnt. It wouldn't bother me that much because 1) I'm not a woman and 2) we can then talk about bringing a woman into our sex life (3 some) if that's something she feels she is missing and needing. But honestly, I don't see what a woman could do in bed that I'm incapable of doing for her, so I don't think this would be an issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 09:51 PM
3	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another But what am I doing that I'm expecting her not to do? I clarified this. My position is I "don't take dicks/sleep with men" and that's what I expect my partner to have not done. I'm not expecting anything different that what I'm doing. If I've slept around with women and I meet a girl who's slept around with women, she will get no negative judgement from me about that, as I'm NOT a hypocrite.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 09:48 PM
3	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another Absolutely. Woman with n count of 100 women and 0 men might as well be 0 for all I care. Dick count is what we mean, and it's time this sub understands that critical distinction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 09:45 PM
2	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another Yup. They're gonna learn the difference even if we have to post it several times lol. And same good to hear from you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 09:41 PM
6	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another Sure if that's her preference. She doesn't need to justify if something puts her off as she can have whatever preference she wants and I won't judge her for it. I merely don't want to be judged for mine and also wanted to point out the fallacy of the hypocrite/double standard argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 09:34 PM
3	What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one another Right again friend. Men who demand low n count women while themselves sleeping around are literally not hypocrites. As you said, the standard isn't "body count" it's actually "dick count." So for example, if I sleep around with women and (because I'm straight) I do not sleep around with men, I can hold women to that standard WHILE ☝️ simultaneously not being a hypocrite. My standard was "don't take dicks" (which I myself completely live up to that standard). A woman can sleep with all the women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 09:29 PM
1	Will Cosmetic Surgery ever change social and sexual dynamics? That's true. However in a world where everyone looked like Chad, women would weigh the other factors more heavily. Women want men that are better than other men. So hypothetically if all men were attractive, then status and money would be how they select. Same for height. 6 feet isn't some magical number. It represents something that most men aren't (only a small percentage of men are over 6 feet). So hypothetically, if all men were suddenly 6 feet minimum, then 6 feet would no longer be attract…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 09:20 PM
1	Dogs are messing everything up. Yeah they are amazing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 01:57 AM
15	Dogs are messing everything up. I just want to say the mighty dog has earned his place at man's side and lives up to his namesake as "man's best friend." Shout out to all the dogs out there because they're awesome. 🐶 🐕 Edit to add: Honorable mention: the mighty horse 🐴 🐎 But dog is still undisputed champ of course	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 01:48 AM
1	Obesity has absolutely nuked the chance to go on a date with even regular women I visited London a couple years ago to see my aunt. I noticed that as well. I literally even commented to her that "all the women are slim and attractive over here! What's going on?" Although I've been told that the UK has a high obesity rate as well, but I didn't see it. I know it's anecdotal, but it was just my experience. There was definitely a difference between what I saw there and what I see over here in the US.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 01:06 AM
1	Who should men be listening to? For advice, direction, understanding. I would say that the most important thing is being the absolute best version of yourself that you can be. This applies to all aspects of your life, such as fitness, career/finances, education, hobbies, sex life/romance, health, etc... As being well rounded is key. As far as who you should "listen to..." I think it's important to be aware and up to date on current events: politics, world events, local & national events, economy/stock market, etc, and then view and read a variety of different medi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 11:37 PM
1	Q4Men: Would you date a woman whose ex shared inappropriate pictures of her on the internet without her consent. The ex isn’t a Chad. Right. But no "Redpilled guys" (her brothers) would ever recommend or endorse a relationship like that because they (being Redpilled and knowing the truth and how shit really is) would understand that that relationship would be doomed to fail... They would know that their sister would never be happy, that attraction can't be negotiated, and that she would in all likelihood cheat on him herself (or at the least leave him for someone better due to hypergamy and dissatisfaction). So you see, I was …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 04:13 AM
1	Q4Men: Would you date a woman whose ex shared inappropriate pictures of her on the internet without her consent. The ex isn’t a Chad. Why would "her Redpill brothers" be encouraging her to date an obese, unattractive, nerdy, loser neckbeard? Do you know what Redpill is? Redpill is a concept of harsh truths of the way the world really works in regards to dating dynamics between men and women. It is all about true nature and it cares not for political correctness or whether said information is socially acceptable. Once men become "Redpilled" (aware, informed, knowledgeable) they can choose to use this newly aquired knowledge to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 12:48 AM
2	Women's failed relationships and dating abhorrent men proves women's "intuition" is bullshit That sick bastard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/23 03:47 PM
1	How will sex robots affect dating? Alpha play...... Beta pay $$$ Alpha smash..... Beta cash $$$	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/23 03:03 AM
0	Men who want to move abroad to find love - why? You realise that even if you find your dream woman who is willing to be submissive and a trad wife… she will expect a traditional husband. The financial burden will be entirely on you What's wrong with that? I have no problem at all filling the traditional male role and everything it entails for a woman who fills the traditional female role with everything it entails. I would expect women to pay half and split bills and all that only when dating in the West / Westernized women, because they want…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/23 09:27 PM
1	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? Right. Fair enough, I get your point. But also keep in mind that ppl can have preferences that they themselves don't meet. An overweight woman can have a standard that she only dates fit men. Even though she herself is not fit, if she finds a man that doesn't care about that and say, for example, is attracted to BBWs, then that can work. There's nothing wrong with that. Just as there's nothing wrong with a man having a higher n count and getting with a woman who has a lower one, if that's someth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 03:11 PM
1	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? Also I wanted to mention something since you made a comment about "purity culture" being something you're against. A man can simultaneously hold the view that 4 or 5 or 10 partners is not a bad thing, but at the same time that 0 or 1 is better. I don't think a man thinking highly of a woman with a low n count is something bad. What I'm saying is that a man can respect a woman's right to do as she wants, but at the same time can you not see the appeal of a hypothetical scenario where a man marrie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 02:50 PM
1	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? Whatever works for you is what works for you. And you can call it whatever you want (FWB, BF/GF, etc) but at the end of the day you're seeing one man and sleeping with one man for the past 15 years. Not very abnormal. Again, terms or whatever you wanna call it notwithstanding..	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 02:39 PM
0	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? This only applies to people who think having multiple men or women is ethically wrong, I'm not saying it's ethically wrong. What I'm saying is that given the context of your situation (being with someone for a long time), having an n count of 1 means you haven't cheated or slept with anyone else (that's loyalty, commitment, and good moral character). Obviously this is a snapshot of what this number reflects. You could be an ax murderer in your free time and your moral character would no longer b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 02:30 PM
1	Is body count important? What would you consider a high body count nowadays? You would absolutely not need to lie to add to your n count. An n count of 1 is absolutely normal considering that you've been with someone for so long. Adding to your n count would provide no advantage whatsoever, and if anything would take away from your advantage you already have, because your current n count shows restraint, loyalty, and good moral character. So yeah, absolutely nothing to gain from increasing it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 02:15 PM
0	Limiting Social Media These ppl are outta their minds OP. You do you. My advice would be not to monitor online communication, because if you have to do that you have no trust, and without trust you have nothing. And I wouldn't frame it as you being "uncomfortable" about it, because that frames it as your issue or "iNsEcURiTy." This is an issue with HER behavior, not you. She's young. She doesn't necessarily know any better. I've been there myself with having to teach a young girl what is and is not acceptable behavio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 02:39 AM
2	Limiting Social Media Exactly. Now all of a sudden they're just wanting to talk to men that they're not attracted to / don't want to fuck? We hear all the time how women DON'T want to talk to or interact with men they have no interest in. But now all of a sudden it's completely innocent and "being social?" I'm not buying it. It's completely inappropriate is what it is, and completely disrespectful to OP. Granted, I'm not a fan of monitoring online communication, as there must be trust in a relationship. But this beha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 02:34 AM
1	Limiting Social Media It’s an unreasonable request to make But that's entirely subjective. What's reasonable for one is unreasonable for another. It’s an attempt to blame other people for your own psychological issues. I don't see it as blaming. A man doesn't want his woman entertaining random fuckbois sliding into her DMs. She then has a choice to make: she can see that his request IS reasonable, as it's coming from a place of what's best for their relationship .... Or, she can decide entertaining said fuckbois is m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 02:21 AM
0	Limiting Social Media But he's not doing it behind the barrel of a gun is he? It's implied that "I'm gonna need you to stop doing xyz IF YOU WANT TO BE WITH ME." It's still her choice, and no one is being forced. OP not wanting his girl to talk to random men who want to fuck her is within his rights to have that as a standard that he won't compromise on IF she wants to remain his girl. Just as she can have the same standard. Just as ppl in a relationship "demand" faithfulness and that their partner not sleep with any…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 01:39 AM
3	Modern day dating is basically a winner takes all market… What would you like to see women do better with? What women get from men is: - don’t be fat - don’t have a high n count - but also don’t wait to long to have sex - be submissive - but also approach men, don’t make them come to you - don’t have lofty career ambitions because you hit a wall of worthiness when you turn 30 so you better lock that guy down while you’re at peak value and fertility - but also don’t be one of those gold diggers who expects the guy to always pay for everything That's a d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/23 02:35 PM
1	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. Marriage is an old tradition / concept. So it's your position, that men throughout history have married without sex being the primary reason? Also, I have buddies of mine that I love. Why don't men get married to other men they love? Because it's not just about love, it's about romantic love, which has to do with attraction (sexual).	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/23 03:11 PM
1	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. This should be top comment. It's short, but much wisdom in it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/23 02:19 AM
0	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. I didn't say she would. I said if I'M interested in a girl I don't want other men to have been with her. So sex with other men is disgusting (for me). That's why virginity is prized, because no other man has been with her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 04:45 PM
5	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. Cool story bro. I wish you happiness in your marriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 03:30 PM
3	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. Right. But men get married to have access to sex. So if sex isn't an obligation, then there are no (relevant/worthwhile) obligations in marriage because marriage is primarily, first and foremost, a sexual contract/arrangement. This is why straight men don't marry other men, because the whole basis is sexual.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 03:24 PM
2	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. I see your point. But I also gave you an example of a non legal sense (island with no laws). The "law" and society as a whole is not natural, just a man made construct. So you can be owed in a moral sense and have the right to enforce it on your own (in the absence of any laws existing). But I do see your point. I'm actually old school. I believe in marriage for example parties do owe each other things (but there should also be recourses for things owed but not given). But since we live in a mod…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 03:21 PM
3	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. I think if I'm "owed" something I should have the ability to make myself whole again otherwise my rights are being violated (I shouldn't HAVE to accept being "owed" and not being paid what I'm owed). In a civilized society with laws, you bring a claim in court through the government (who has a monopoly on violence and can compell a person to pay what's owed). In anarchy, or the "law of the jungle" so to speak, for example on a desert island that no country owns and where there's no law, I would …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 02:52 PM
4	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. Exactly. Marriage is a contract for no obligation for the woman with all risk to the man. Men don't get married for the "tax benefits" or whatever nonsense. Men have always married primarily to have access to sex on tap like a faucet. Now with no expectation of sex, marriage is literally outdated and no man should ever do it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 02:26 PM
5	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. I guess its semantics. Because I would argue that if a debt isn't legally recognized (as in no recourse to collect) then it's not really a "debt." I do think lying is morally wrong. But men lie and women lie, and they both play each other so some ppl have their guard up and will burn another person first instead of risking getting burned. It was just weird to me because I've never heard a feminist speak about sex being "owed," but I understand your point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 02:23 PM
4	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. Absolutely, and the welfare / daddy government cuck state.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 02:14 PM
8	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. If they did happen to promise it, they'd owe it, Hold on a sec.... As a feminist, you're saying that if a woman promises a man sex, then she owes him sex? "Owing" implies that there's a debt to be paid in order to make the other party whole, and that it's morally wrong to withhold what you owe. A creditor (the one owed) is justified in taking actions against the debtor to recoup what's owed. Since a man "owed sex" has no moral or legal recourse to recoup debt owed, then I would argue that regard…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 02:13 PM
13	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. Agreed. This new age "marriage but with zero obligations" is simp/sucker shit for real. I don't care how politically incorrect this opinion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 02:05 PM
2	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. I make it about myself when it comes to assessing something for me, yes. Do you not take into account what you like or want when analyzing something that will affect you? Men don't (generally) like women (that they're interested in) sleeping with other men. This is obvious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 12:32 PM
2	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. Again very generalized statement. No, I don't make "everything" about me. I take into account what I want and don't want, like and don't like, when assessing a situation that involves me (such as a relationship, for example). I think everyone does this. Please stop with the "gotcha" type general questions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 12:28 PM
2	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. That's a very general question. I'm just a regular man, not better than anyone else. I'm merely speaking from my perspective in regards to this specific topic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 12:24 PM
0	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. I don't understand the comment. And I don't complain about not having sex. But if you were speaking hypothetical "you" instead of personal "you," I still don't understand, maybe you can clarify. Men wouldn't go "Eww" when I don't have sex. They would go "Eww" when I DO, because to them I'm a man who isn't them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 11:45 AM
-4	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. No..... A woman having sex with me isn't disgusting to me (but it is to other men). Having it with other men is (to me). So my point was a woman having sex with any man except me is disgusting. And you're correct, lesbian sex isn't. It's only disgusting (for me) when there's another dick involved that isn't mine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 11:41 AM
0	Men and women not owing stuff to each other. According to many men, sex is disgusting: this is why they want a low ncount women I don't think this is true at all. Sex isn't disgusting. Sex WITH OTHER MEN is disgusting. Important distinction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/23 11:37 AM
-3	CMV: individual women take general criticisms of female behavior personally because they are solipsistic, invalidating the purpose of this sub Also let's not forget that when it's 1000 year old vampire/immortal and he's with an 18 year old girl, they don't think it's icky or wrong because of a "pOwEr DiFfErEnTiAl." Same thing in other beloved female book series, like ACOTAR and Throne of Glass and others. In both series the 18 and 19 year old female protagonists end up getting with 500+ and 300+ year old immortals and there's nothing icky or wrong with it because the guys are "hawt" and don't look old.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/23 04:05 PM
1	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? So men sleeping with each other is fine, but women sleeping with each other isn't? No. Men sleeping with women doesn't cause a man to lose value. Women sleeping with men, the women lose value. Women sleeping with each other no value lost. Men sleeping with men value lost. So you see, anytime a dick is involved, it causes a value reduction in whoever it penetrates. Sex isn't a solo endeavor, it requires another so the people engaging in an activity that requires both of them to occur Correct are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 03:57 AM
1	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? The people who think think differently of men who have many partners and women who have many partners are irrational and hypocritical. No. Hypocritical would be for a man to sleep around and then shame another man for doing the exact same thing. In these situations, the same thing is happening (a man having sex) yet one man is shaming another for something he's doing. Completely hypocritical. . Now if you were to take a woman and put her in the situation, that same man sleeping around wouldn't b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 03:15 AM
5	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? Men and women aren't the same tho. Men will never view sex as a completely equal exchange. If a man has sex with 4 women at once no one is going to think less of him. A woman gets a train of 4 guys run in her, her reputation will suffer. Why? Because we are not the same. And yes, ultimately it comes down to preferences. Men have preferences for chaste women, but we don't frown upon men sleeping around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 02:54 AM
2	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? Well said 👏	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 02:09 AM
2	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? True. That does happen a lot. But attraction can't be negotiated. I get that. I don't think ppl should criticize anyone's preferences. A woman can be a height queen and a man can want an 18 year old chaste virgin who only want to be his slut. But what we shouldn't do is criticize ones preference and think our preference is above criticism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 01:57 AM
1	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? I guess by definition we would have to establish whether promiscuity is indeed the "same" behavior for both men and women. Exactly. And of course it's not. Men are never going to view a woman sleeping around in the same light as a man doing it. Hell, women don't even view it the same (hence slut shaming each other). Men and women aren't the same and they never will be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 01:50 AM
2	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? Hypocrisy is condemning a behaviour and then participating in the same behaviour. I don't think it's hypocritical to view female promiscuity as bad but male promiscuity as acceptable. Men and women aren't the same. So a man can view a woman doing something as bad and a man doing it acceptable. Just as a woman can view a man having some "gay experimenting phase" as a hard no, even though she experimented with other women. Why? Because men and women aren't the same and we have different expectatio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 01:45 AM
2	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? I'm gonna bow out of this conversation because I feel you're getting upset, and that wasn't my intention. I am very blunt when I speak on this sub, and I will tell it exactly as (I feel) it is. A lot of this stuff is taboo and not politically correct. But in the name of open discourse and men and women being able to learn some harsh truths I feel good can come from information like this. So again, if you disagree that's fine or think I'm crazy that's fine. Ppl can have their own opinions and com…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 01:20 AM
3	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? Let me clarify some things: Yeah that’s what some guys here have said. And like I said many guys think any dudes who say otherwise are lying. Well SOME may be lying. SOME may be telling the truth. I said it was "very universal," not universal. There's men with fetishes to swing and watch other men have sex with their woman, but I'm speaking on the majority opinion. There's always outliers. But that’s fine, so you think it’s universal, and tons of men are just liars and even want to marry women t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 01:08 AM
5	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? You're jumping to extremes. I never said a woman who loses her virginity is a "worthless slut" or anything like that. I'm merely saying that all things being equal, men prefer chaste women. But body count/chastity is one of many factors and the individual woman will be judge on the totality of the circumstances of course, just like with anything else. But I wanted to point out that it's a pretty universal preference for men. That's all. And as far as morals: men don't view sleeping around for me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 12:45 AM
6	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? I stand by my assertion that most men PREFER chaste women. I'm not saying men only will marry virgins. Obviously the totality of the "package" (everything a woman brings to the table) would be considered. A man might marry a woman with 30 previous sexual partners. But you better believe most men don't PREFER other men to have slept with her. Take 2 identical literally cloned women, the same in every single way in a hypothetical situation. Most men if they had the choice would take the identical …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 12:32 AM
3	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? Right. But firstly, women should know this already shouldn't they? Women's promiscuity has been frowned upon forever and still is. Secondly, the man would be acting against his own interests. Because he doesn't care about what her value may be (if they don't stay together) for other men. He's acting in his own interests. And also his value rises for adding a body to his count, and for taking the virginity / deflowering a girl. So no man will do this. Men don't look out for other men 20 years int…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 12:22 AM
8	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? But it is. Because women innately prefer a taller man. Men innately prefer chaste women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 12:13 AM
5	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? And let’s not pretend short women (or frankly women in general) aren’t shamed and criticized constantly here for preferring tall men to begin with. I accept their preferences. I think most men can accept women's preferences. I'm just using the example to show you that men have preferences too. But when a man expresses his, and women don't like it (preferences for virgins or chaste women for example) women are quick to shout about hypocrisy, but then are blind to their own hypocrisy. Ultimately m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 12:12 AM
0	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? If before sleeping with a woman you inform her that having sex with you makes her lose any value she has in your eyes But that's not how it works. If I sleep with a woman, she doesn't lose value in my eyes that would be ridiculous. A woman only loses value for every man she sleeps with who isn't me. I feel as if this distinction is sometimes lost on ppl. Example: virgin woman has sex with me. She's still just as valuable (to me) even though she has a body count of 1, because I'M that one. So rea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/23 12:07 AM
8	Why do people think that individual men are responsible for women value in regards to body count? I think it’s strange for any person with a high n count to expect a partner who has a low n count Because preferences. A woman who's 4' 10" can have a policy that she only dates men above 6 feet. Or let's go less extreme, most women say they want a man at least taller than them. Why? Because men and women aren't the same. She expects her man to be taller than her. There are exceptions of course, I'm speaking in terms of general preferences. For men, they want a woman with a lower body count than…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/23 11:57 PM
3	"Be her friend first" or "Make your intentions known" - Which is it? Well said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/23 06:54 PM
1	Pick your man Thank you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/23 01:34 AM
0	Pick your man Good for you, do you want a cookie? Yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/23 11:27 PM
-1	Pick your man Hungry bear. See how easy that was.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/23 10:45 PM
1	Pick your man If a man had killed in legit self-defense then you wouldn't hold it against him, correct? Also, what if a man had killed in war?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/23 10:15 PM
0	Pick your man Of course I would choose Don for my daughter. What man in their right mind would choose Pat? They are equals in most regards until you get to their backgrounds in which then Don is far superior (for not being a murderer). The only category Pat is superior in is "tingles."	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/23 10:05 PM
0	Pick your man Right. But who would you RATHER date? The whole point of the post is moot if every woman just says "neither." The post was deliberately set up with two bad options in order to gauge where the hypothetical line is between looks & dangerous behavior vs. average/boring & safe. So it's asking who would you RATHER date? It's a given that neither options are ideal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/23 10:02 PM
2	q4men: what contradictions do you see in women? What was it beta buck, alpha fuck. Alpha gets ass, Beta pays cash.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 02:41 AM
2	What age is best for men to pick wives? So you want the woman you love and commit to for life and have children with in the future to have perfected her deepthroat technique with some other guy(s) instead of teaching her yourself? I mean, that's cool. I can't say that's appealing to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/23 12:58 PM
2	Would most RP men prefer an average looking virgin woman or a knockout woman with a past? Also Brad Pitt said somewhere, he had difficulty getting girls when he first came to Hollywood. Damn. Even Brad Pitt in his prime had women turning him down holding out because they "can do better" and "know their worth."	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 12:28 PM
3	Why do some women claim they want something serious while still sleeping with fuckboys on the side? Alpha lay, Beta pay Alpha smash, Beta cash Alpha hits, Beta babysits Alpha gets neck, Beta writes check Alpha play, Beta stay Tale as old as time my friend. So what's the plan? Are you going to adopt your friend's strategy for the next one?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/23 06:20 PM
5	Sisters, do you approve this? You forgot "bRaIn NoT fUllY dEvElOpEd UnTiL 25!!"	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/23 01:18 PM
2	Men Now Face More Unrealistic Beauty Standards True. I know a bunch of Pookies and Ray Rays and they all have several baby mommas and girls lining up to be the next, even tho they do nothing for the kids they already have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 05:39 PM
2	Men Now Face More Unrealistic Beauty Standards Women want tall and muscular men. The stereotypical Chads and Tyrones. Yes, that's what they want ideally. But don't forget they're more than happy to blow Pookie and Ray Ray as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 05:12 PM
0	How do most anti-feminists lean politically? Libertarian.	/r/AntiFeminists	20/12/22 03:41 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread I fucking hate Russia for what they're doing in Ukraine right now. But when you really look into the case, I don't think we had a right to hold this arms dealer to begin with. He was doing business in other countries, not in the US. This type of precedent says that the US can just have agents ready to arrest you as a non US citizen anywhere in the world because you're doing things they don't like, even though you don't fall under US jurisdiction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/22 02:43 PM
3	Age gap relationships are generally shamed by bitter older women I completely agree OP. Ppl want to keep these young ADULTS in a perpetual state of childhood. The line has to be drawn SOMEWHERE. This country (US) and many others have decided that that is 18. So that's it. They're adults. At that age myself I was already fighting in a foreign country. At adulthood you're able to fight in wars, vote, do porn, etc etc. Why on earth shouldn't the same adult be able to decide who he/she wants to date? "B.. b.. b.. bUt, MuH PoWeR DiFfErEnTiAL!" Nothing wrong with p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/22 04:31 AM
1	What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy? I would argue you should be required to donate blood for your child if medically required, but that's me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 02:45 PM
2	What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy? Well even if we roll with the fact consent to sex constitutes consent to pregnancy why can’t we unconsent? If you take this stance I would argue that men should be able to not consent to being a parent / providing. I take the stance that child support is justified, and that abortion is unjustified. Those two issues to me go hand in hand. Either consent to sex comes with responsibilities you can opt in or out of or it doesn't. Spending your money is less involved than spending your bodily resourc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 02:39 PM
2	What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy? Wow. You're proving my point. ONLY one UNDERAGE RAPE VICTIM?? Please stop embarrassing yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 02:01 PM
2	What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy? But so does the girl. It’s a question of which human right is more valuable Right. I agree. In this case I would argue the right to life trump's the girls right to body autonomy, seeing as she made a choice (had sex), which resulted in the fetus being in her womb (now it's human and has right to life). you are pro-life with exceptions, so there is nuance right Yes, if there's gonna be life threatening complications to the mother, in this case her right to life trump's the fetus right to life (it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 01:49 PM
2	What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy? Do you know what precedent is? Doesn't matter how long ago, that's the way things were handled and we have every reason to believe that they'll be handled that way going forward (because precedent).. Surprised you believe in this pill shit at your age. It's embarrassing. No, what's embarrassing is you dismissing underage rape victims having to pay their rapists. It's disgusting actually.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 01:41 PM
2	What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy? I responded before you responded, my comment wasn't in response to yours, but in expectation of no argument, of which I stand corrected (gladly). it’s one article about one case and it’s from 1996. So? How is it relevant if it's 1 or 100? This doesn't come up THAT often I'm sure. The point is the precedent is set, and from a standpoint of being consistent there's no way the reverse would play out (woman being forced to pay rapist child support), hence we have inequality. Were you even born at th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 01:31 PM
2	What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy? Let’s say it’s a human. So it has human rights You have a right to life Correct You don’t have a right to someone else providing you with assistance so you can live, right So you believe children also don't have the right to child support, correct? But if somebody refuses to perform CPR on you just because you are a man, that’s messed up. Not performing CPR is remaining passive. Someone absolutely has the right to remain passive and choose to do nothing. It would be the same as a woman who's pre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 01:28 PM
-1	What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy? There is no inconsistency in my argument. Of course she doesn't have to donate the organ. Is Anna responsible for Bob? No, they are separate entities. This argument is not relevant because a human doesn't have the right to another's kidney. Anna is not DOING ANYTHING to harm Bob. She has the right to sit down, not move, not speak, not make a decision. That's not DOING anything to Bob, it's inaction. In the fetus/mother example the mother can also NOT DO anything, which would in no way infringe u…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 01:10 PM
3	What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy? And yet I hear crickets chirping. Excellent post btw. I bet no one responds to it. And if they do respond to it watch the mental gymnastics ensue: "BuT, mUh BeSt InTeReStS oF tHe ChILd" (even though they never take this into account during the abortion debate -- plus, what about the best interests of the child who was raped not to have to be a wage slave and pay his rapist for 18 years) "BuT, mUh He CoNsEnTeD sO iTs DiFfErEnT" (knowing full well he cannot possibly consent, because if it were an …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 12:24 PM
-1	What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy? I do think that the unborn is human Ok, we agree so far. My line of reasoning would more be along the lines of that I think that every person has authority over their own body, We still agree, bodily autonomy is hugely important. which means a woman is not obliged to provide her own body to the survival of a fetus. Ok, here is where I believe your argument falls apart. If the fetus is human, it has human rights. The woman in question also has human rights (including the right to body autonomy). …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 11:58 AM
4	What's your stance on the post Roe v Wade vasectomy advocacy? A fetus is more than a cluster of cells and less than a human Well what is it? And does it deserve protection or not? I'm personally pro-life (with exceptions). But the argument used is that it can be aborted for ANY reason, hence it has no rights. I could choose to not want female plants in my home, and after buying a bunch of plants from the store I could separate the males and females and destroy all the females. This would be acceptable because plants don't have rights. I'm trying to underst…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 11:38 AM
1	If men want relationships with women more than men, doesn’t that mean women face little to no difficulties in dating? I'm glad that it worked out for you then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 04:26 PM
1	Men should push for less gendered dating/engagement norms Agreed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 01:42 PM
1	Men should push for less gendered dating/engagement norms Do they, though? There's a pretty decent chunk of men here and on the MensLib sub who say they prefer women who are egalitarian rather than traditional, because we pay for dates and do the pursuing and other things that reverse gender norms I can only speak for myself. I'm a very masculine and "traditional/old school" type stuck in a modern degenerate world, so I make the best of it. But I'm attracted to the complete opposite of me in almost every conceivable way. Ultra feminine, submissive, exp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 01:42 PM
3	Men should push for less gendered dating/engagement norms Excellent points.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 01:34 PM
1	Men should push for less gendered dating/engagement norms Good analogy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 01:34 PM
1	Men should push for less gendered dating/engagement norms Most definitely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 01:32 PM
2	Men should push for less gendered dating/engagement norms Yes. I've had discussions and read studies that everything men do stems (ultimately and subconsciously) from the desire to have sex. Brushed your teeth this morning? Yup, it's so your teeth don't look bad so you can get sex. Have a job? Yup, it's so you can earn money to be stable/successful so you can get a woman/sex. Literally everything. And as for your example, yes, wars for sure. So many men have died in wars ultimately over pussy .	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 01:31 PM
5	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap You've dismissed what I've said (that I've been with multiple women who loved and came from anal) just because it doesn't line up with what YOU prefer. I've been with women who needed oral to cum, who came from PIV and oral, who came from PIV easier and had a hard time with oral, who came from anal, who came from any combination of the 3, etc .,..... There are varieties of women and what they prefer. I'm not dismissing your experience, but you aren't other women. Your first mistake is assuming e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 11:59 AM
4	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap TLDR: I stopped after you said "TLDR"	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 11:34 AM
4	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap And who did she choose to marry? Apparently not the "hawt" guy who made her wanna push her boundaries and limits, but the one who made all these new barriers come up (see: Bet Bux - noun, slang) How did he know the guy was even telling the truth?? Who are you going to believe? Your WIFE? Or some random guy she fucked years ago who maybe has a grudge?? He confronted his wife about it and she admitted it but justified it with all the reasons I gave you (different now, never liked it, etc etc) Anal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 10:48 AM
1	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap Alpha (fucks in) storage closet / Beta direct deposit	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 03:10 AM
2	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap LMFAO	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 03:09 AM
3	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap How would you even know it was better for some other guy you’ve never met? You wouldn't necessarily. I'm speaking on a hypothetical scenario in a vacuum to explain what men value and why we see things this way. Whether or not the man will know or not is irrelevant to my point. But let me give you an example of a post I saw on a different subreddit once just to clarify this point a bit: A guy was posting that he had always wanted to do anal with his wife and she never consented because she didn't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 02:34 AM
1	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap about what a woman did with a man before she even met you It's only an issue if it's better for this other guy than for me. changing her boundaries or enforcing them better Men want to be the guy she's pushing her boundaries and breaking her rules (or what she thought were her rules) for, and the one she's testing her limits with.... Not the guy she's with once she "finally knows her worth" and "won't put up with crap anymore" or whatever other catch phrases. Nobody wants to be that guy.... They…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 02:00 AM
1	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap So you didn't read my post then? I clearly stated I wouldn't want a woman to do something she doesn't want to do. The ONLY ISSUE is she was fine doing it for Chad, Tyrone, Pookie, and Ray Ray but not me. That would be the issue. I would want her to be "just as fine (and even more so)" doing it for me. Nothing to do with consent or whatever it is you're implying. Ppl can do things for each other that they aren't thrilled about and it's still consensual, we are adults. You know what? Forget everyt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 12:44 AM
5	If you complain about “high n count slutty girls are no good for commitment”, it’s stupid to also complain about girls who dont fuck until the relationship is exclusive. Exactly. What women do would be the male equivalent of pumping and dumping "GF/wife material" and wining and dining just for hook up girls.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 12:04 AM
1	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap I don't think your ice cream example really applies here and here's why: that wouldn't be important to men. Now let's say, for some reason, that this one exception of a man really requires that his partner eat rum flavored ice cream with him. It's literally the number one thing he's looking for in a partner. Of course the relationship is doomed to fail. But regardless, I don't find the example particularly relevant, because having someone like a certain ice cream is not important to a man, while…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 11:42 PM
1	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap That's why I said "In before 'but sex is different'"	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 11:03 PM
1	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap No I'm not reinforcing that it's ok to abuse women, I don't know how you got that from my comment. And let me rephrase.... Let's say she did mind, ok? Guess what? She minded, but did it anyway for another guy. I "mind" taking out the trash and helping around the house. I "mind" going to work to provide. I "mind" having to pay the rent and spend money on things. I "mind" doing a lot of things. Let's say I did all these things that I didn't really wanna do because it benefied my partner and my rel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 10:34 PM
2	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap if men didnt care about bodycounts and past sexual experiences We will always care, male nature isn't changing If men are gonna be able to do whatever they want sexually and not be judged Go ahead and judge us for it. Who's saying we shouldn't be judged... Judge all you want. Women don't judge men as harshly because they don't care as much. I think its fair enough that she will lie, So you think misrepresenting yourself and starting a relationship with a foundation of lies is acceptable? its non…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 10:20 PM
1	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap It's not that there's necessarily a problem waiting.... It's that men don't want to be treated worse than other men... So if other men didn't have to wait, then (from the current guys perspective) she treated the previous men better. Women have a huge difficulty understanding this, but this is the universal male perspective. Women almost always will default to "but every relationship/person is different" and each experience is "unique" and all this stuff. That seems to be the female perspective …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 09:53 PM
2	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap Someone who loves you doesn’t expect or demand that you do things that make your uncomfortable, sad, or cause you pain. That isn’t love, it’s use I see what you're saying....But the whole problem (in this example) is she didn't mind doing all that stuff and "being used" by Chad and Tyrone. If she's consistent that's one thing, but men don't want different sets of rules for them or to be treated worse than the next guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 09:41 PM
3	The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crap I totally agree. And yeah, Chad, Tyrone, Pookie, and Ray Ray hit that shit in the dirty truck stop bathroom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 09:35 PM
1	Are some women simply "Chadsexual" while most are not? LMAO Good analogy .	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 01:08 AM
1	How are bigger women improving their dating game if even? It is a systemic issue, and I don't think anyone should be shamed for it because ultimately it's a personal responsibility. I don't know what the solution would be though unless science literally comes up with a breakthrough pill or genetic treatment or something. We could say "more education," but I think "Calories in vs Calories out" is pretty widely known by now (I could be wrong though).	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 12:41 AM
2	How are bigger women improving their dating game if even? Really? I've been to England to visit my family in London many times over the years. I thought England didn't have nearly the weight problem America did. Although I do admit I only stayed a few weeks at a time. But this was just my casual observation of course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/22 06:33 PM
1	How are bigger women improving their dating game if even? Exactly. A woman in her prime years (late teens thru early or mid 20's) will be attractive 99.9% of the time..... As long as she is just "not fat." She doesn't even have to be fit, or slim, just "not fat" will do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/22 06:21 PM
1	How are bigger women improving their dating game if even? I've been to England numerous times visiting family. As I walked around the streets, literally most of the women were slim, or at a minimum not fat. America has a weight/obesity problem for sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/22 06:16 PM
0	If you only want intimacy through sex, you don’t actually care about intimacy. You just want sex. Firstly, I'm not claiming to want Chad treatment. Secondly I'm not expecting sex within 3 dates. I'm saying that I wouldn't want to be with a woman who DID give Chad "the Chad treatment." 3 dates is nothing. I prefer chaste women. I was pointing out the dilemma a lot of men face, which is women having standards, yet breaking them for Chad only. If a woman hasn't done that, there's no issue. The issue is a lot of women do that. Finally, I'm not talking about ME per se, but speaking on the philoso…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/22 12:33 PM
2	If you only want intimacy through sex, you don’t actually care about intimacy. You just want sex. I think you did it pretty good though. Physical fitness and earning potential I think are the two most important things you can improve on that are within your control. Having a Giga-Chad for a roommate seems like it could be frustrating though, but at the same time motivating too maybe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/22 10:54 PM
2	If you only want intimacy through sex, you don’t actually care about intimacy. You just want sex. Well I actually agree. But it kinda really depends on where you're at (how much improvement you need), how old you are, etc. I think it will vary. I mean if you're 18 year old male, out of shape, no $/income, I don't think you can really offer anything that a woman would want. I say it would be better to go hard for at least a few years, fix the things you can: for example, hit the gym and get in shape, and also focus on your career and earning potential. By the time you're done with college and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/22 10:28 PM
3	If you only want intimacy through sex, you don’t actually care about intimacy. You just want sex. Or, ideally, you work on yourself and get a "better career and income" (SMV/RMV) and come back in a few years and buy that top quality Iphone when you can afford it. But fuck settling for that refurbished phone that's twice as old, half as fast, and twice as much. I say just don't play the game until you can be successful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/22 10:03 PM
3	If you only want intimacy through sex, you don’t actually care about intimacy. You just want sex. Right... But that old refurbished phone is going for MORE than Chad is paying for his brand new latest model phone. I get that Chad has more buying power, he always will. But a bad deals a bad deal. Edit to add: LOL, these examples are getting hilarious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/22 09:53 PM
3	If you only want intimacy through sex, you don’t actually care about intimacy. You just want sex. Right, I agree ppl get treated differently. But (going with your example) let's say a guy goes into a restaurant, and he wants to eat there. Imagine them adding to his bill all the times you or other family members ate for free over the years. THAT is the equivalent (in my opinion) of LTRing a girl who has slept around and had ONS. Because her value has dropped (because she lost it/gave it away to Chad for free), and now relationship guy has a lesser quality, higher n count, older woman, with ki…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/22 09:40 PM
2	Different Sexual Expectations For F-Buddies/FWB and Actual Relationships I have 3 comments about this topic: 1) Chad is definitely in the FWB/ Fuck Buddy category (even though she wants to lock him down) 2) Guy #2 is having to do all the extra tangibles and intangibles, while Chad just had to get in the Uber (that she paid for), get his dick wet, and then get back in another (paid for) Uber. 3) So in this specific scenario, guy #2 is losing, because he's having to "pay full price for what Chad got for free (actually, got paid to do)"	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/22 09:25 PM
5	If you only want intimacy through sex, you don’t actually care about intimacy. You just want sex. No they're not Chad. And it won't really apply here because we are just talking about a few dates. But I think if and when this progresses to potential LTR stage, and if said guy does know or find out her history, then that's when men will always take issue with this type of behavior. Then the guy will be thinking of the classic phrase: "Why pay full price for what Chad got for free?" So there can be consequences for women rewarding Chad so freely. I think a lot of this is male nature that can't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/22 09:14 PM
3	If you only want intimacy through sex, you don’t actually care about intimacy. You just want sex. Plenty of men on here say that if she doesn't put out in the first 3 dates then leave. The reason that advice is given out is because Chad didn't have to wait.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/22 08:55 PM
2	CMV: Alpha Fucks/Beta Buxx is projection because it’s men who don’t want to settle down until their 30s So there is no victimhood just men crying about their options and wanting the sex market to change so it’s beneficial to them. I'm not claiming there's victimhood. If men fall for these ridiculous scenarios it's because they're simping. I just don't think it's morally right to lie, deceive, and use someone. Is it legal? Yes. Do I feel it's wrong? Yes. Dude how often does that actually happen though?! I don't know how often it happens, but I know it does. I've seen it happen to ppl in real life, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 08:21 PM
2	CMV: Alpha Fucks/Beta Buxx is projection because it’s men who don’t want to settle down until their 30s But the question remains if they had the option to be promiscuous, is it not safe to say they would be? They probably would be. Not all, but many, yes. It's a very common male nature. Who would?!?! What person in their right mind would want to settle down with someone who only wants them because they couldn’t pull anyone else. I agree with you. I don't think they should settle. The issue a lot of men take is the deception. Pretending to like him while using him for his resources and fucking Chad…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 06:54 PM
3	CMV: Alpha Fucks/Beta Buxx is projection because it’s men who don’t want to settle down until their 30s I didn't say ALL men who want to settle down are desperate. I was specifying the "Billy Beta" type (below average looking man, not successful with women, but can potentially get leftovers due to having $/resources). Man sign me up! Where can I find one of these desperate men who would likely cheat on me the second someone better came along since he wants that life but can’t have it. That's exactly my point. Women don't want to settle with these men. They only do if and when the cock carousel is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 06:07 PM
2	CMV: Alpha Fucks/Beta Buxx is projection because it’s men who don’t want to settle down until their 30s Ok I'm gonna leave it there. You can clearly type complete and proper sentences so I know it's not your reading comprehension. I think you are just seeing what you want to see, and reading something different than what I'm typing not because you don't understand but because you don't want to understand. It's like talking to a flat earther or something. Goodnight. Oh and try not to be so angry, it'll raise your blood pressure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 06:21 AM
2	CMV: Alpha Fucks/Beta Buxx is projection because it’s men who don’t want to settle down until their 30s Ok.... Try to stay with me here. My comment about your indefensible position was in regards to your statement that seemed to minimize paternity fraud as not a very valid concern . It had nothing to do with your irrelevant comment about pedophiles. It's best if you actually read and comprehend the post, then formulate a response, instead of immediately pulling a quote out of context in an attempt to sound witty and clever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 06:15 AM
2	CMV: Alpha Fucks/Beta Buxx is projection because it’s men who don’t want to settle down until their 30s You not "giving a fuck about France" shows you're entrenched in your (indefensible) position, because rather than respond to any point I made, or the other posters about paternity fraud being pretty common (again, have you seen Maury), you just wanna talk about how you don't care about France. I didn't bring up France to ask who your favorite French monarch was or what you think about Paris in the summer time. I mean at this point what's the point? Anyone could say anything, and you would just s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 06:07 AM
0	CMV: Alpha Fucks/Beta Buxx is projection because it’s men who don’t want to settle down until their 30s Nothing wrong with that. Those 20 year olds have been adults for years now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 06:02 AM
0	CMV: Alpha Fucks/Beta Buxx is projection because it’s men who don’t want to settle down until their 30s I don't know anything about it being a pedophile paradise. And my point was relative to your comment about paternity fraud. It is a female dual mating strategy. You were making it seem as if paternity fraud is not a big concern for a man and that you can just get a test. Well, how long before even that is illegal? Feminism is in my opinion, destroying societies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 05:58 AM
1	CMV: Alpha Fucks/Beta Buxx is projection because it’s men who don’t want to settle down until their 30s That doesn't sound very realistic. Billy Beta is attempting to sleep around through his 30s, failing, all the while NOT commiting to women interested in him? You can't honestly believe this. Maybe your perception is skewed and these "Billys" aren't really Billys. A true Billy doesn't have options so he simps for the possibility of a whiff of pussy. I think the true Billy's are literally invisible to you, and the guys you think are Billy's are actually above average, maybe 6 or 7 men. Of course i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 05:43 AM
2	CMV: Alpha Fucks/Beta Buxx is projection because it’s men who don’t want to settle down until their 30s Do you know that Feminist women in France pushed to make paternity testing illegal? Illegal! Just to find out the truth. That's an example of a cucked feminist society that has lost all it's morals and has gotten their dual mating strategy pushed through to a national level. India probably isn't far behind, that place is going downhill fast. I honestly just feel at this point that men had it right back in the days ... Women literally cannot be left to their own devices.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/22 05:29 AM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex A woman's highest value is when she's a virgin. Men want exclusive acesss to a woman, ideally this applies to past, present, and future. She doesn't lose value everytime she has sex. She loses value everytime she has sex with someone other than me. Keep in mind, these are positions that almost all men subscribe to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 08:25 PM
6	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex You don't? I believe every relationship is transactional, in the sense that it must provide a net benefit to both parties, otherwise what's the point? Ppl in relationships have certain things they want (expectations), and certain things they have (things they bring to the table). So it's transactional in the sense that the man brings x, y, and z and wants a, b, and c. The woman brings a, b, and c and wants x, y, and z. When these things line up a relationship is possible because both parties are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 06:38 PM
5	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex True, but men and women value different things. Sex is more valuable to a man than a woman, and I would argue that a relationship is more valuable to a woman. The #1 reason (not the only reason, but by far the #1) men even get into LTRs is for sexual access to a woman. If it wasn't, men would partner up with other men with similar goals and interests, but they can't, because it's primarily a sexual relationship first and foremost. Everything else that comes with said LTR is a bonus. Men are will…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 06:28 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex Yeah I'm fine with it, not bitter or anything. I was definitely upset at the time but I've gotten over it. But yeah certain cases are tough. And like I said I'm sure it varies and there are anecdotes on the other side. But just from what I've seen, and also researching the topic, it seems like women are heavily favored in family courts. Don't get me started on criminal courts. Men get far more time for the same / similar crimes. And I'm not against women. In fact, I acknowledge that many problem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 04:50 PM
2	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex Definitely shouldn't compromise your values... Ever. I agree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 04:31 PM
2	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex Ultimately you're right, everyone's an individual and has different priorities. But I try to speak more generally on this sub to get to the meat and potatoes of male and female nature (things that tend to be more universal). But ultimately I agree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 04:28 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex I didn't leave. Neither of us were from Texas, we were only there because I was stationed there. She's from GA and I'm from CA. It was a given that neither of us would stay in TX long term so the judge had to award them to someone. She left before I did btw, after the divorce finalized I did another 2 years in TX, she immediately went to GA.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 04:26 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex What are they losing to me? They're losing value for every man they give sexual access to who isn't me. Are you male or female btw? Sorry if you already stated it, I'm having a few conversations on here at the same time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 04:23 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex Oh ok I got you. I think honestly male and female nature are sometimes just at odds, that's the way it is. I think any relationship both parties end up compromising on something or another because of these opposing natures.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 04:22 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex Well I guess my views are outdated, sexist, and toxic. If that's what modern society tell me my nature is then so be it. And I would never dare a promiscuous woman. I'm simply speaking on male nature (from my opinion and experience). I think a large majority of men would agree with me, and I feel our nature as men is not socially acceptable and taboo, hence why we can't really say these things in public.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 04:21 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex 50/50 is equal custody (which is entirely meaningless when parents live in different states). What custody means at 50/50 is that I have an equal right to make decisions (legal, medical, etc) about the kids... But someone is still primary possessor. So I have 50 / 50 equal custody, but visitation (as she's primary possessor). At least that's how it is in Texas where I divorced. I'm in Cali now (she's in Georgia) and not sure how it is here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 04:16 PM
0	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex Men and women value different things. Once you realize and accept this you'll see that your entire post isn't that relevant because it immediately discounts this. Of course the man doesn't lose value (or tokens) for every woman he sleeps with, he gains tokens actually. Only the women lose this value (or tokens) with every man she sleeps with (that isn't me). Women lose value to men when they sleep with OTHER MEN, not when they sleep with said man. For example: a virgin woman has a high value. If…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 04:13 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex I'll give my personal experience on the matter, although I don't usually like to get personal. Some years ago I was divorcing the mother of my 2 kids and wife. There were many reasons for the divorce, but one big one was her huge drug problem that developed over the years. This was so bad it was literally affecting my children's safety, and after years of attempting to get her to clean up her act, I finally made the decision to divorce. We were in Texas actually, as I was stationed there at the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 04:05 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex Please understand my perspective: I'M not opposed to women who want to wait. I respect and highly value a woman who wants to wait. I think a lot of men would agree with me. No reason to move on, that's my kind of woman actually. My point is that I would feel used / like a chump/ simp if I had to wait and other men didn't. I think most men would agree with this statement. So my issue isn't waiting.... It's waiting, while Chad didn't have to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 03:37 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex They're not acting against their nature. Their nature is fundamentally opposed to male nature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 03:34 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex Firstly, that depends on state. States have widely differing child support and alimony rules and guidelines. Secondly, I'm really not trying to get into a discussion too heavily on how the inequalities of the judicial and family court system in favor of women over men. It's something that if you're coming to this Convo from the perspective that it's relatively even, then I don't see any progress we can make because we would be starting off so fundamentally on different pages that I don't think w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 03:33 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex Let me just state a few things to clarify: 1) men don't ONLY value women for sex 2) men value other things about women, especially when looking for an LTR 3) however, sex is extremely valued to where men will compromise on many of these other things they value, because sex is more valuable 4) an LTR to a man is a sexual partner, with some possible bonuses (friendship, mutual interests, hobbies, etc), as opposed to a friendship/partnership where as a bonus they get to have sex..... The bonus cann…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 03:27 PM
-1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex I'm merely stating that men's nature is men's nature. All societies throughout the world didn't come to the same secret meeting and agree upon some patriarchal conspiracy to oppress women's sexuality. Each one did so on its own. It's common enough that we can't write it off as toxic masculinity. I would say according to the definition of toxic masculinity as it's used today, that's just describing true male nature. As far as what I believe the natural way is: my point was that men view a woman's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 03:13 PM
1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex I agree that the men shouldn't sleep around either. Matter fact, I personally think casual sex is extremely detrimental to society. However, I also believe and acknowledge that sex is not the same for men and women. Society views these things this way not because of "toxic" masculinity, but because of the very nature of men and women as a whole. Our entire human history and human nature cannot be written off as toxic masculinity. At some point we have to accept reality. This new movement of call…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 03:01 PM
-1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex Of course she is. But here's my point: men value sex the most. It's the foundational reason men even have LTRs in the first place. Men view a partner as a sexual partner first and foremost, and build from there. Even if the relationship doesn't start out with sex, the man is still viewing this potential partnership from the basis of sexual partnership (or future sexual partnership) with other potential benefits (mutual interests, hobbies, etc come secondary). So while they certainly value other …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 02:55 PM
-1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex How is he not respecting himself? Sex is not equivalent for men and women. Men value sex much more than women do. We hear here on PPD all the time from women who say they COULD sleep around very easily but place no value in a man wanting them just for meaningless sex. Men on the other hand value casual sex so much more because they can't just walk into the street and shout at the top of their lungs "anyone wanna fuck?!" and have women rushing over. It's a different experience and men and women v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 02:43 PM
-1	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex But men value women who aren’t easy/sluts, right? For long term commitment. Of course. The highest value a woman can potentially have to a man for a LTR is bringing her beauty, youth, and chastity. That's why men PREFER (all else being equal) the 18 year old virgin to the 30 year old who's been around the block. That 18 year old virgin is basically saying she chooses to give her sexual access away ONLY to him, and willing to give him the best years of her life. Men don't necessarily take issue t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 02:26 PM
0	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex So you're willing to disrespect yourself for casual guy #1? You're literally saying that you don't care of he respects you, but then still willing to sleep with him. PPD women on this sub should understand by now that the number one thing men value is sex. So from a man's perspective, you're willing to give this said thing of high value away to a man who: 1) doesn't respect you (or at a minimum may not respect you) 2) brings nothing to the table except just having to show up (no commitment, reso…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 02:06 PM
0	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex More women divorce men who cheat than vice versa. Of course she will. The legal system is stacked in her favor. By divorcing him she can take half his stuff, get alimony, child support, and do whatever she wants. This proves AF/BB and I'm surprised you didn't make the connection. This divorce scenario allows her to maintain her BB without having to fuck him, while simultaneously leaving her free to fuck Chad and Tyrone while Billy Beta funds her lifestyle. Likewise, the men divorce less because …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 01:48 PM
23	I never understood this concept when it comes to sex I don't think most men mind this. A lot of them even respect it. The ones who are unwilling to wait will filter themselves out. Men don't take issue with this stance, because you have a certain standard and stick to it. Men only take issue with being treated differently/worse than other men. For example, the husband/boyfriend having to "pay full price" for what Chad got for free/just had to show up for. ("Full price" being commitment, the relationship, all the things that go along with that)	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 01:23 PM
0	OFFICIAL How are age-gap relationships "at a different stage" thread Being sexually/ physically attracted to each other, getting along, and having fun together. Whether they like the same bands/music/tv shows or whatever is pretty irrelevant if the above things that I listed are there. I think ppl get too wrapped up in this narrative that they have to "have things in common." The common things they need are attraction and chemistry and that their personalities are complementary. They could have completely opposite hobbies, interests, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 12:54 PM
0	Your partner should be your best friend. Everything else is just details. Absolutely agree with this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/22 03:55 PM
1	Most of men's problems with dating comes from shallow men not wanting to admit they're shallow. Of course having kids (mine or otherwise) will change everything. The difference is that when these sacrifices come to the relationship it will be for MY kids (to raise and care for my own line) not take her focus and priorities away from me for the sake of some other man's line. I already explained that men prioritize their own lines and children (I think all creatures do). The why is important here. Kids come with responsibilities no matter what. The question is WHY is my relationship/life com…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/22 02:22 PM
-1	Most of men's problems with dating comes from shallow men not wanting to admit they're shallow. Are you going to continue to take what I'm saying to extreme positions? Yes, men still get with single mothers. Nowhere did I say otherwise. My point was that a woman's RMV goes down for every kid she brings. All things being exactly even and equal in an identical scenario, with a woman bringing kids or bringing no kids 99% of men would prefer his woman doesn't bring another man's kids to the relationship. Of course there's exceptions (maybe some man can't have his own kid or some other scenario…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/22 02:08 PM
-1	Most of men's problems with dating comes from shallow men not wanting to admit they're shallow. Firstly, I don't hate kids. We are speaking on the nature of men and women. I'm giving you the male perspective. It's the same reason why male lions when they kill another male and take over his pride kill all the male cubs. Every man wants his own line to succeed. Now don't twist my words and say I'm wanting to kill children or anything ridiculous please. What I'm saying is every male prioritizes his own line. A woman who decides to ONLY in her entire life have my children and no one else's gai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/22 01:30 PM
0	Most of men's problems with dating comes from shallow men not wanting to admit they're shallow. What makes you think the single mom with three baby daddies can’t provide companionship, a partner to raise a family with, someone who supports them ect…? She very well could. But in this example (her being hot) and coming with all that baggage her SMV is high, but her RMV takes a huge hit because she has decided to have other men's babies. The BEST a man could hope for in this situation (if she were to also have his kids) would still be to lose because she had his AND other men's kids and yet h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/22 01:20 PM
2	PPD would be far more neutral if people would stop turning general statements into personal attacks Definitely. And the great thing about this sub is that it's a great opportunity to learn. But ppl shut down when you attack them and it defeats the purpose and wastes the opportunity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/22 01:24 PM
1	What is your opinion on "Don't Ask a fish how to fish?" That's what Red Pill is for. Men now have access to all the information to better themselves if they're willing to accept reality and put in the effort to better themselves. Of course women aren't going to tell men how to do it, because I believe they often don't know themselves, go off feelings, or they're unwilling to admit Red Pill truths (either consciously or subconsciously) because it paints them in an unfavorable light.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/22 12:46 PM
16	PPD would be far more neutral if people would stop turning general statements into personal attacks I definitely agree, people need to be respectful here even if they strongly disagree. And also we should not be making things personal or making assumptions. Both side do it, and it doesn't help.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/22 12:28 PM
2	Do you actually receive tons of flirting, orbiting and puppying attempts by guys every day just by you going about with your daily routine, hence validating the frustration written by men online about women being utterly spoiled for choice? Some very informative and honest perspectives posted here. Thank you ladies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/22 12:26 PM
2	It feels like women are actively avoiding spaces where it's socially acceptable to approach them. Thank you. And I accept reality I guess, that's why.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/22 02:29 PM
2	It feels like women are actively avoiding spaces where it's socially acceptable to approach them. Women should most definitely conceal carry everyday. Men too. But I think it's even more of a necessity for women because they can be overpowered easier and they are more often the target of stalking/harassment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/22 01:31 PM
3	If a Girl or a Group of Girls falsely accuses me of Sexual Assault, how should I successfully defend myself so that I don't go to Prison for a thing that I didn't even do along with my Life being ruined due to a bad Record? If it's truly a case of no evidence, her word against yours, false accusation, etc, and you are arrested and held without bail (or with excessive bail that you cannot afford) you can demand your right to a speedy trial. The government is not supposed to even arrest you without probable cause, but sometimes they do. Demanding your right to a speedy trial will make the prosecution put up or shut up, and in this situation since they have nothing, your charges will have to be dropped.	/r/AntiFeminists	20/11/22 01:20 PM
1	there is more then one type of bad boy I agree. A bad boy can definitely be a good person, just more of a rebel or risktaker. Someone who doesn't conform. There's also a huge difference between type 1 and 2 that you mentioned. I would say most bad boys will fall somewhere in between the 2.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/22 10:49 PM
1	Women that can’t get pregnant or have genetic conditions I think a woman most definitely has value regardless of fertility or wanting kids. It all depends on if that's important to a man, and whether or not that aspect is a deal breaker or not. If she can't or wont have ANY children, then that's the way it is for everyone (all men). The main issue is men don't want her to have Chad's baby and expect them to raise it and provide for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/22 10:42 PM
2	talking about equality…. Hello. Can you answer his question please? Is the pic, or at least the rest of the pic, and the ideas they represent relevant or not? Do you agree or disagree that men are oppressed and these are SOME of the injustices they face?	/r/AntiFeminists	18/11/22 10:21 PM
4	It’s male projection that women will at least EVENTUALLY want to settle down with an Average Adam eventually. No relationship IS better than a bad or monotonous relationship, this cannot be stressed enough This is the way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/22 03:34 PM
6	Complaining about high N-count women is a fundamental misunderstanding of the red pill principles. This is true. Some topics have become just completely socially unacceptable. Even the very nature of men has become taboo and socially unacceptable. So because this is the case, many men will literally not speak about (or even outright deny) their nature in public (even in front of other men).	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/22 12:38 PM
2	Complaining about high N-count women is a fundamental misunderstanding of the red pill principles. Firstly, of course men should absolutely better themselves and increase their value. Secondly, I don't think anyone rights should be infiringed upon. But you don't necessarily have to find a middle ground and compromise your values if that's important to you. Western men who cannot accept high n count women can opt out of dating Western women, for example. It's one option. Plenty of women in or from more traditional countries to put your focus into if so inclined.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/22 12:23 PM
2	Why should anyone get married now? And why is the “shit or get off the pot” mentality so prevalent among women, despite their independence? Even the progressive boss bitches who don't need no man still want to marry and lock down Chad. The reason they're saying they don't need no man is after the cock carousel is over and they realize they'll never lock Chad down, and they refuse to settle for Billy Beta if they don't need the provisioning / resources.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/22 07:14 PM
1	CMV: Men's desirability declines much less with age compared to women's. This is supported by virtually all available evidence. Excellent example.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/22 02:53 AM
10	Just a personal observation, I’m noticing more and more above average and good looking guys with chubby and overweight or below average girls This right here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/22 02:23 AM
1	N-count and F-count I'll give my opinion as a man: Higher n count is worse than higher f count. N count being equal, less f count is preferable to more f count. 0F and 0N are the ideal, and it goes downhill from there, with N having more of a net negative than F. I'll also add that the reasons for these views stem from the fact that men want to get a woman's best (sexually). Higher N count, especially ONS, would increase the likelihood that some other guy had to put in less (or no) effort than you did. Higher F cou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/22 02:10 AM
3	A woman’s past is important for men in the same way that a man’s height is important to women Firstly, according to the definition of mysoginy as it's used in current context, I agree, most men are (myself included). Secondly, there is a huge difference of course. That's why I was speaking on tolerance levels. And my example was to take things to the extreme to make my point. But we are pretty much in aggreance here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 04:55 PM
3	A woman’s past is important for men in the same way that a man’s height is important to women I'm not saying all men are like this. There's exceptions to everything. There are men who care, don't care, and everything in between. There are men who enjoy watching their woman sleep with other men. There's also tolerance levels. Some men may only accept a virgin. Some will be ok with a few partners. Very few would be ok with a porn star with 1000 sexual partners for example, but some will. But my comment stated that for the vast majority of men, n count matters (to some degree or another). I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 04:47 PM
1	Women should lie about their N-count But how is lying necessary? Do you not believe men have a right to whatever preferences they want and that a relationship should be built upon honesty? If you think the preference is ridiculous or irrelevant doesn't matter, because you don't have a right to decide for him. Someone could have any arbitrary preference they want. They could decide to only date someone who's last name starts with A. If it's important to THEM is the ONLY thing that matters because it's THEIR standard. Take for instan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 04:39 PM
2	A woman’s past is important for men in the same way that a man’s height is important to women I agree. The way men are hardwired to think is directly at odds with the progressive, feminist, "live your best life" narrative that gets pushed upon women in modern Western society. And my other comment was down voted, but I'm literally just telling the truth about the male nature. We have to accept reality, not dig our heels in and demand male nature change. And this male nature is not "toxic masculinity" btw because it is literally the NATURE of men, whether current society shames men for the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 04:33 PM
1	Women should lie about their N-count So do you now change your view that women should lie about their n count, or do you still insist they should?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 04:23 PM
4	Women should lie about their N-count I don't think anyone should lie or start a relationship based upon falsehoods. If a low n count partner is important to a man, that's his preference, just as a female is entitled to her preferences. A woman with a high n count should just find a man for whom that criteria is not important. What's the point in lying just because YOU feel it shouldn't be important? With this logic a person could lie about other things such as criminal history, future goals, any number of things that can make a rel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 03:13 PM
1	Q4All: What are some traits you're "supposed" to find attractive but don't? Women definitely find violence to be masculine and a turn on. It's actually the capacity and capability to bring violence upon other men that they like, but don't want a man violent towards them. Just as they want their man to be capable of sleeping around / cheating on them, but don't want them to actually cheat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 03:08 PM
-1	A woman’s past is important for men in the same way that a man’s height is important to women If it’s beautiful then why do you think it ruins a woman somehow? I'm gonna be honest with you and answer your question for you, but I know you may not like the answer. It's a beautiful thing when it's with ME, it's not a beautiful thing (in fact it is the opposite) when it's with OTHER MEN. This is how men think, and no amount of shaming, saying we should get over it, calling us insecure, no amount of progressiveness, feminism or anything else is going to change the way the vast majority of men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 01:25 PM
3	Q4All: What are some traits you're "supposed" to find attractive but don't? Hello. What is it about men who read books turns you off? Is it because you find it not to be a masculine activity?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/22 06:42 PM
1	Your relationship should not depend on sexual attraction Good analogy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/22 02:16 PM
1	Q4M: Is there anything you like about women? Obviously this doesn't go for all women, but women tend to be much "sweeter" (for lack of a better term). For example, liking/loving animals. To speak very generally and broadly they tend to have a better/bigger heart than us. They are also far less violent (as a whole).	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/22 01:31 PM
2	Men do ultimately care about women's financial standing, if for no other reason than financial security makes it easier (and thus more likely) to be physically attractive. Why not? I can recognize something as being unjust and unfair as a spectator watching, even though I never go thru a divorce. I don't complain that divorce laws have personally screwed ME over, but I see others unfairly screwed over by them. Who I choose to marry doesn't have any basis or relevance for any of this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/20 03:24 AM
1	Men do ultimately care about women's financial standing, if for no other reason than financial security makes it easier (and thus more likely) to be physically attractive. Not true. Some men don't care about a woman having a career/income, or would even prefer the traditional gender roles (stay at home wife/mother, for example). Me personally, I fall into that category. A career oriented woman would be unappealing to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/20 02:25 AM
1	Q4M: What is your life's purpose/drive? a world where that kind of violence is no longer necessary. I don't believe it's possible. But it's good you're idealistic about that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/20 02:13 AM
1	Q4M: What is your life's purpose/drive? it is one of the few worthy challenges a man can find in this modernized world. To each his own.... But there's still many other challenges in this modern world. For example, facing your enemy on the battlefield, that will literally never go out of style (as far as being the ultimate challenge, I mean, nothing glorious about violence). But yeah, facing your enemy will be viable for all time: past, present, and future.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/20 11:41 PM
2	"The decline" is largely a myth - female promiscuity isn't new. True.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/20 06:23 AM
1	"The decline" is largely a myth - female promiscuity isn't new. A wonderful response... Should be enough to literally get her to reevaluate the way she thinks about things (in general) and make some serious, positive changes for the better.... But, you get no response... Fucking crickets chirping right now! Wtf!?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/20 06:23 AM
3	"The decline" is largely a myth - female promiscuity isn't new. Lol, exactly. Time and time again... They just couldn't get it right and couldn't stop the sluts from slutting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/20 06:19 AM
3	"The decline" is largely a myth - female promiscuity isn't new. That’s why we need to educate the younger generation on SMP dynamics like this. Do you think that will work though? You think educating them is gonna keep them away from Chad cock? I have my doubts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/20 06:13 AM
0	The 2008 financial crisis is the definitive reason why dating is the way it is today, as well as the existence of the manosphere. While I certainly agree that gender roles have been basically thrown in the garbage in modern western society, I don't think it's due to the financial crisis or cost of living, or anything like that. I think it's more to do with feminism having made a mockery out of traditional gender roles and made it shameful for men or women to express desire to live like that. If you're a man that wants traditional gender roles, then you're a sexist pig who just wants to enslave and oppress women. If you're …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/20 06:09 AM
2	The 2008 financial crisis is the definitive reason why dating is the way it is today, as well as the existence of the manosphere. Men can't meet the bare minimum of what the men back in "the day" did. Now that's not true. While it's true that the cost of living has increased faster than wages, it's still feasible for a man to be the sole provider and provide a good life for his family. I do it (for example), and I don't come from money. I just worked very hard and now I'm doing ok financially and stability wise. I don't think that they can't, I think that either women don't want/expect them to, as they've been raised to be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/20 06:00 AM
4	"The decline" is largely a myth - female promiscuity isn't new. I wouldn't say that the decline is only because of female promiscuity. There's many factors that cause the decline, which then cause additional side effects, which in turn affect things even more. Female promiscuity is one cause. Male simping is another big factor that should not be discounted or dismissed as insignificant (male simps are probably the "root" cause, or close to it). Feminism and the stripping of men of their rights in many aspects, but especially when it comes to family court is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/20 10:48 PM
4	Higher N-Count = Better Partners Of course we don't . I'm just going off of what you described in your post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/20 03:27 AM
3	Q4M: Would you ever date a woman who wants to remain abstinent until marriage for a non-religious reason? Thank you very much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/20 03:21 AM
5	Higher N-Count = Better Partners So now that all the fun is all out of the way you 2 can settle down into a relationship with each other?? Are you hearing how this sounds? My God it sounds positively awful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/20 03:21 AM
2	Q4M: Would you ever date a woman who wants to remain abstinent until marriage for a non-religious reason? Thank you so much for this comment. I always am amazed at how so many ppl think sex is something complicated that you MUST try with numerous partners first in order to learn and know what you like..... As if you can't learn and explore all that with the person you love.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/20 03:12 AM
4	Q4M: Would you ever date a woman who wants to remain abstinent until marriage for a non-religious reason? Absolutely.... Assuming that I was into her a lot and saw a future with her, I would be willing to wait. I will add that I did wait with my wife. It was for religious reasons, but regardless the type of girl she is anyway religion or not it would have been the same (waiting). I respect a woman a lot who thinks like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/20 03:06 AM
1	Let’s address the elephant in the room. But I'd strongly recommend girls NOT pay attention to that first time feeling, bc you'll get that "first time feeling" with anyone, regardless of whether or not they're good with you. I was reading along and pretty much agreeing until I came to this statement. She shouldn't pay attention to that feeling? What if the man is good to her and has good intentions for her? It seems like you're implying that can't be the case.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/20 03:02 AM
1	When is mate guarding acceptable? I agree. I definitely wasn't expecting the answers to be primarily like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/20 11:54 AM
1	When is mate guarding acceptable? Exactly. My wife absolutely loves how possessive I am of her and how I don't want other men talking to her. Some women really like that quality in a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/20 03:37 AM
2	Women are better off without men & most women don’t understand male nature. 1) While it's true men do value looks, they have wide arousal windows and there are men who have different types. The second part of your statement is not true, men won't automatically trade up if given the chance. If a man finds you attractive and cares about you that is just not true. 2) Not true. I've personally had countless opportunities to cheat (and not get caught) and haven't. It depends if your partner really loves you or not. If you have something real and true with a good man then you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/20 05:23 PM
12	Most men aren’t evil, patriarchal, chauvinistic, rapists/rape apologists. And in my opinion there's nothing wrong with that. Women should always erre on the side of caution and assume any man they don't know may be out to do them harm. This is the prudent way to act. I don't understand how some ppl get so bent out of shape about it. I tell my wife, my sisters, etc this same advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/20 01:45 AM
1	There’s no “good women” anymore because being a “good woman” is horrible. I know it is. I should have put a /s as I meant it sarcastically. She values "vibes" above all else it seems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/20 12:32 PM
2	There’s no “good women” anymore because being a “good woman” is horrible. Chill out, you're killing her vibes man...	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/20 11:48 AM
3	[Q4Women] Among those of you who have kids (or want some in the future), would you object to your son regularly visiting/dating prostitutes? Yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/20 01:54 PM
1	Let's Talk About Homophobia It's not about someone else finding out (for me), it's about I would be disgusted at the thought of sleeping with a person with a Y chromosome. It's about me. Anyway, that's my take on it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/20 01:50 AM
1	Which has a greater impact on the sexuality and general expectations of a girl - her first sexual partner, or her first sex partner? Yes this needed to be said. It's been said, but a lot of ppl just aren't getting it. So one more time for the ppl in the back: men have nothing "against" sluts or high n count women... Nothing at all. We just don't want to wife one up, commit to one, have an LTR with one, have kids with one, etc....	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/20 01:01 AM
2	Which has a greater impact on the sexuality and general expectations of a girl - her first sexual partner, or her first sex partner? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/20 12:54 AM
1	Let's Talk About Homophobia I would rather fuck a 300# hambeast than a perfect 10 tranny. I simply do not consent to sex with someone born with a dick, hard stop. I absolutely agree. It's not homophobia, it's just being 100% straight. If the "person" has a "Y" Chromosome, that's the deal breaker for me.... Like the conversation isn't even open for debate. Looks be damned, that damn Y Chromosome is worse. I need XX.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/20 12:51 AM
3	Is it bad that i want kids but don’t want a girlfriend I'm wondering the very same thing and hope he answers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/20 07:49 AM
1	sekhmet she owl: marry men with money Yes this is true. Standing out and succeeding in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/20 07:41 PM
2	Onlyfans and modern relationships I agree. And the reverse as well of course . It's devaluing all the way around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/20 12:24 PM
3	Onlyfans and modern relationships Simps can be dangerous when trying to impress the object of their simping.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/20 12:22 PM
3	Onlyfans and modern relationships The biggest losers here are the weak men who are supporting this industry. Yes, they're absolutely pathetic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/20 12:21 PM
3	Onlyfans and modern relationships True. The simp community is persistent and they vote with their wallets. We are just getting started. The simp community will grow and grow	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/20 12:15 PM
2	sekhmet she owl: marry men with money That's so 10 years ago. Now it's LARPING as a tradcon while holding your billionaire husband's balls in a tiny jar in your Gucci purse next to your toy dog.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/20 07:22 AM
2	sekhmet she owl: marry men with money Exactly. This chick is delusional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/20 07:11 AM
1	sekhmet she owl: marry men with money Firstly, I would argue that that's not something a lot of men want (to be desired for their "successes," or because they'll make "such a great father/husband/provider/etc"). I want my woman to appreciate that about me, yes. And it's cool if they have that criteria ADDITONALLY and apply it to every man. But I need my woman to want me "because she thinks I'm hot." It is what it is. Secondly, I would say that that statement is not even true. Look at the shit shows and divorces and things that have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/20 07:08 AM
2	Alpha-Beta Dichotomy 2020 outdated? Or (as I was thinking) they married early or their first partner, or waited to have sex until after marriage. Those were the women I had in mind when I was talking about the ones who "never have been pumped and dumped," not never having relationships and becoming old single spinsters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/20 05:30 AM
1	Are we on the verge of a Thot Market Crash? LMFAO	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/20 09:22 PM
1	What is your definition of cheating? I'm a male, 36, married. Anything physical would obviously be the worst. Emotional stuff would still be cheating too though. All the stuff you mentioned in your examples. Hiding things. Having any type of friendship even with a man secretly. Flirting is cheating. I have very high standards as far as cheating goes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/20 08:35 PM
5	Do you want to be loved for your abilities, accomplishments, and achievements by someone you're dating? I wasn't coming at it from an AWALT perspective or anything. I definitely understand being passionate about things and others not sharing your passion. When I talk to my wife about guns and I'm just going on and on and she just doesn't know or care what I'm saying. It's fine. She has things I'm not into. But I was just saying I think it comes down to biological differences. Men and women have different expectations and different things they value. So I'm not saying this like it's a bad thing, it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/20 08:26 PM
5	Do you want to be loved for your abilities, accomplishments, and achievements by someone you're dating? Right. I see the difference. I agree with the statement. I don't think it makes men better or women worse. I think it's just a biological difference. I can love a woman who hasn't accomplished anything, if she's young and attractive and sweet and good to me. I doubt my wife would be with me if I had no job and never did anything with my life. My accomplishments add to her level of respect, which allows her to love me (very important).... Again, just biological differences, no better or worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/20 07:28 PM
5	Do you want to be loved for your abilities, accomplishments, and achievements by someone you're dating? I don't think anyone was saying that it makes men "morally better" or anything. I think the differences were just being pointed out.... Which you seem to agree with at the end of the day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/20 07:23 PM
8	Do you want to be loved for your abilities, accomplishments, and achievements by someone you're dating? I understand what you're saying. I don't think that ppl are saying they are insignificant. It's just that within the context of this sub and the way us men are they do seem to be less significant than men's.... What I mean is that from a male perspective we don't value that as highly as women do the reverse for us, and I think it's just because it's biological.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/20 07:20 PM
5	Older men (30+). What are your reasons for going after younger women that are NOT LOOKS RELATED? Wow, what an amazing and excellent answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/20 11:25 PM
3	Older men (30+). What are your reasons for going after younger women that are NOT LOOKS RELATED? Excellent analogy. Very true...	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/20 11:18 PM
3	Older men (30+). What are your reasons for going after younger women that are NOT LOOKS RELATED? This is very true right here. My wife is a good bit younger than me. She always tells me how she looks up to me and it's clear the level of respect she has.... She also will ask me so many questions, and is amazed at how I "know so much" and things like that. She has much less life experiences than me, so of course she comes to me to learn about things. Anyway, your comment I could definitely relate to. My ex wife was older than me. We didn't get along at all or have anything similar to my curre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/20 11:12 PM
4	Older men (30+). What are your reasons for going after younger women that are NOT LOOKS RELATED? Sounds like your standards are too low and need to be raised a bit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/20 11:08 PM
12	Older men (30+). What are your reasons for going after younger women that are NOT LOOKS RELATED? Yes it's true that there are many men who will try to lie to you and deceive you given the opportunity. You must be careful. That's why the vetting process is so important. No matter what anyone says, IF a man that you meet really cares for you or is into you, and values you, he will wait until you're ready. If he won't wait or pushes the issue, then obviously he is not the right man for you. So you see, you can use the situation to make sure that you end up with a man that really cares for and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/20 11:06 PM
4	Older men (30+). What are your reasons for going after younger women that are NOT LOOKS RELATED? Excellent answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/20 10:57 PM
2	Be honest: Males and females with no kids do you automatically disqualify someone if you find out they have a kid? This man knows what's up	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/20 05:11 PM
1	[Discussion] No woman has ever seen how men really are You never expect much out of men? Have you never known a man that you respected? Looked up to? Admired a quality about? It's true, we men at our core are savages. I've seen the worst things possible from men because I've experienced times of war. We are violent and we cause tremendous suffering to other men, and especially to women. However, the way you say it and speak it seems like you paint all men with the same broad brush. The same way I've seen men do horrible, unspeakable things I have al…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/20 01:24 AM
2	[Discussion] No woman has ever seen how men really are That story is horrible. Yes, ppl definitely need to protect themselves at all times, I agree. But it's ridiculous that things are the way they are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/20 01:15 AM
4	[Discussion] No woman has ever seen how men really are She's REAAAALLLY reaching now....	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/20 01:12 AM
0	"Gender wars" will always exist in society, because the male and female sexual imperatives are diametrically opposed. Yes, there's always evil men out there just waiting for the opportunity to prey on women in times of chaos and war or natural disasters. It's unfortunate. Unfortunately I think (based on what I've seen) that it's a much higher percentage of men than you would like to think are capable of rape and things like that. That's why good men always have to be ready to commit violence in defense of the weak. I don't feel lucky or unlucky... Just ready. Edit: Having pondered it just now, I do actually fee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/20 06:05 AM
1	Q for M&W: How do you handle a relationship where your counterpart is noticeably more "objectively attractive"? I'm with someone that is way out of my league (looks wise). What comes to mind is that firstly, looks are but one aspect of the person. Also, people have qualities that they prioritize as more important and less important. As long as there is mutual attraction, and compatibility and happiness, that's what matters at the end of the day... If the 2 ppl are happy. As far as how I "handle it," I don't do anything differently at all. You never want to simp for a woman, or make her feel as if she's "w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/20 04:15 PM
1	What PERSONALITIES Would You Be Compatible With in LTRs? Ok I guess I just don't understand... Lol... Never mind. I was just saying it's not mutually exclusive. That's all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/20 05:38 AM
2	There is NO reason for your LTR to refuse to perform a sexual act with you that she performed on another man before As usual, you're speaking THE TRUTH right here. I couldn't agree more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/20 04:51 AM
3	[CMV] Redpill men would be less insecure about being "betabuxx" if they didn't view sex as something you must convince women to give up. No, Giga Chad is mini boss. Ultimate Chad is end boss. Come on now, keep up....	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/20 04:48 AM
1	Hypergamy is a Defective Theory because is Overweighs High School I would argue that even a 23 year old dating an 18 year old is to big of a gap I respect your ability to have your own opinion, but I respectfully disagree and think that's EXTREME. Two consenting adults, both of whom can die for their country and many other freedoms and responsibilities of adulthood, they can do porn, etc.... But they can't date? I think that's nonsense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/20 04:45 AM
1	What PERSONALITIES Would You Be Compatible With in LTRs? Romance is for 20 year olds? I understand what you're trying to convey (I think), the fact that an LTR/marriage is serious and for grown adults with their shit together.... Yes, I get that. But that doesn't mean that your relationship/marriage cannot have romance and all that. No reason you have to come into a marriage looking at it like a "business/relationship/partnership" or the "merging of 2 corporations" or whatever. I mean, if that's important to you, you can have the romance and still hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/20 04:38 AM
0	What PERSONALITIES Would You Be Compatible With in LTRs? My ideal girl is feminine, caring, and very innocent. Someone who hasn't yet been "ruined" or "corrupted" by the harsh realities of the world, as I have been for example. The opposite of me in many ways. She has a heart of gold, loves animals and would never even kill a fly, and hates violence. She is very empathetic and feels the suffering of others as if it's her own. She is a much better human being than I am. Lol at ppl downvoting MY ideal. Haters are always gonna hate, and I love it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/20 02:59 AM
1	Men seem to enjoy knowing a woman had past partner(s), or is "damaged", under certain circumstances. How might this relate to what else we know about male preference? Is this male nature, or in specific men only? It's not that they enjoy knowing a girl is damaged, it's that most guys are either desperate, or simps. So being simps, they look for these opportunities to come in as a white knight captain save a ho and make their move. They don't realize that that simping behavior is unattractive and going to land them in the friend zone.... But that's neither here nor there. Anyway, yeah , they're simps and white knights	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/20 02:46 AM
1	The 80/20 rule also exists for men He said "men" not desperate pathetic simps.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/20 08:35 PM
1	The 80/20 rule also exists for men They fuck fuckboys.... They fuck them and try to lock them down and only complain when they are pumped and dumped. Do they learn? No. They keep getting pumped and dumped and keep complaining.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/20 08:32 PM
1	CMV: Women reject "good men" because of low-esteem and insecurity caused by feminism They invalidate feminist women’s words, okay. Whatever with them purple haired lefties. No no no... It's nothing to do with "purple haired lefties...." It's "purple haired fatties" we take issue with....	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/20 03:26 PM
1	The Red Pill teaches dudes how to not get played by the games women play - And Women hate seeing their own game being played against them Yeah, they REALLY don't like hearing it	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/20 03:19 PM
2	Why PPD does not want/like incels, from someone who has been here since it started Male behaviors and nature are far worse than anything I listed regarding women. The difference is they aren't capable of doing better. Are you saying that you don't believe that there are any "good men?" Because your comment about male nature leads me to that conclusion, because all men have "male nature." If that's not what you believe, then please clarify.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/20 09:47 AM
1	Why is so much of history just trying to control the populations sexuality? Why do people care about the sex/degeneracy of other adults? How does me going to raves and doing drugs affect you? How does the existence of high sociosexuality people stop low sociosexuality people from doing their own thing? It doesn't affect anyone. Men just don't want to be LIED to and form a relationship built upon lies. Many women say "well I don't lie." That may be true in your specific case. But the trend is that it's far too common for a woman to lie about her past once she realized that it can indeed COST HER the things she wants in life (such …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/20 06:51 PM
1	Hook up culture and society makes being a romantic basically impossible, even for those that want to be. I agree. And I sympathize with what you have experienced and are going through. I'm very sorry. I hope it all works out for you in the end, and you find a man who thinks just like you and wants the same things you do. Whatever you do, don't ever doubt yourself. Your feelings and your wants are definitely valid, and attainable (even if more difficult, unfortunately). I wish you good luck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/20 03:42 AM
1	Women doing porn is their own choice, not a part of a secret patriarchy plan by men. I just buy it from reputable sources Were you just making a point.... Or do you really BUY porn?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/20 03:38 AM
1	Do left wing men or right wing men have more sex? Furthermore, do atheist men or religious men have more sex? He's not saying they "don't want sex," he's saying it took longer for that part of the relationship to develop. Not all women have sex the first date / first night meeting a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/20 02:29 PM
2	Although women seem to be genuine in their belief that opposite-sex friendships are platonic, men seem unable to turn off their desire for something more. One of my good female friends loved guns half as much as I do (which is a lot), she was feminine still, but we had that as a common interest, and I would take her shooting all the time and train her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/20 12:14 AM
0	more gold diggers = less poor single mothers If all human women made a pact to be "gold diggers" and only open their legs for well-off ($100k+/yr) men, the single motherhood epidemic would be over This would NEVER happen, as it would require Chad cock worshipping women to quite literally put down the Chad cock	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/20 09:25 PM
3	Although women seem to be genuine in their belief that opposite-sex friendships are platonic, men seem unable to turn off their desire for something more. Yes every woman is different. In your case as you're stating then, you do not have sinister intentions or use someone. I have had female friends too that I never hit on (even though they were attractive) and they never saw me as an orbiter or anything other than a friend. This definitely happens. But the simp/beta orbiter and his friend who he secretly likes seem to be very common. I generally agree with the post... Exceptions aside, men and women are not "naturally" friends... As in, I think th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/20 09:16 PM
2	Although women seem to be genuine in their belief that opposite-sex friendships are platonic, men seem unable to turn off their desire for something more. Excellent analysis. I think you're on the right track with much of this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/20 09:10 PM
2	When you are considering a woman for marriage, how long do you prefer to wait before you have sex? And how long would you be willing to wait? Exactly. You already know the right answer. I think your work is done here, and you don't need any more advice. I agree with you completely, please don't let anyone convince you different. (Although a man who "ghosted you" doesn't seem to me like he is your soulmate, but I don't know the entire circumstances of you all's relationship, so I won't comment or assume further) To give you a personal experience of mine, I am married to my soulmate. I was her first everything (even kiss). I never touch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/20 08:12 AM
1	When you are considering a woman for marriage, how long do you prefer to wait before you have sex? And how long would you be willing to wait? You seem like a girl who is definitely not into casual sex and is either a virgin or a low N count girl, so you are a good, high value girl (assuming that you are good in other areas too). You are wanting a true relationship, something serious, and a soulmate. My advice is don't listen to what any man on here says about having to put out quickly, or "I'm gone by date 3" or whatever. This whole vetting process is to make sure you found the RIGHT guy. That's what this is about. You said so yoursel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/20 08:02 AM
2	When you are considering a woman for marriage, how long do you prefer to wait before you have sex? And how long would you be willing to wait? You’re a slut if you fuck other men quickly, not him. THIS. I think many women (in general, but on this sub surprisingly) still don't quite understand this distinction. A woman loses no value to a man for doing anything sexual with him. In fact she gains value. She only loses it with everything else sexual she does or has done with OTHER MEN. Big difference there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/20 07:51 AM
5	The Red Pill teaches dudes how to not get played by the games women play - And Women hate seeing their own game being played against them OP I agree with you. Women hate to have men take their advantages away from them. They're used to getting away with it for so long. This is what I've noticed from observing of course, I never was a simp myself. OP I generally agree with and at the very least enjoy reading your posts, thank you	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/20 04:07 AM
3	When you are considering a woman for marriage, how long do you prefer to wait before you have sex? And how long would you be willing to wait? I make out with him and deep throat his dick. That takes more attraction than intercourse. Yes, it definitely does. I made a whole post about this one time on here about that being the case. Her mouth is good barometer to assess your attractiveness with a girl.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/20 03:53 AM
3	If you want women to like you, make yourself valuable to HER. What’s your explanation for why they do it? (Crickets chirping)	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/20 10:05 AM
3	If you want women to like you, make yourself valuable to HER. How exactly is what TRP teaches "morally wrong?" That's the problem, you're coming into it with your mind made up about that. TRP does not teach men to be cruel or immoral towards women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/20 03:30 AM
1	If you want women to like you, make yourself valuable to HER. Cardi b and Megan the stallion Again, those women are low quality trash. Barely would be worthy of a pump and dump from a high value man, and they wouldn't even make it to pump and dump status for me. You picked known, ghetto, trashy sluts as your example? OP.... come on now. I know you can't be this brainwashed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/20 03:26 AM
3	What makes you valuable? Short and straight to the important stuff. Excellent answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/20 02:57 AM
1	What makes you valuable? Yes, first sentence is the most important....	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/20 02:56 AM
13	What makes you valuable? Now that's just not true. If that is the message you've gotten from this sub then you're not paying close enough attention. All of the things you listed are good qualities, sex however is gonna be #1 to most men. So your lack of "sleeping around" is a serious plus. You say you're not attractive, but remember men have a much wider arousal window. Men are into all types of women. And if you're physically fit, that's literally more than enough for most men to be attracted to you. You are definitely…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/20 02:44 AM
1	TRP is the crazy idea that average men have the right to amorally pursue their self interest to the fullest extent of the law, in the same way that women and powerful men already do...the latter are just better at deluding themselves into thinking their selfish actions are moral What if they don't "hate you" for being yourself but just aren't interested in you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/20 04:03 AM
1	Q4M Would you be bothered if you found out that your SO was not that physically attracted to you, but just like you for your personality? I would be super upset that our entire relationship was a lie and we wasted our time. It's a deal breaker for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/20 03:58 AM
1	If an unattractive (not fat) woman approached you or signaled interest, what would you think and how would you react? Well I think your brothers are correct. If a man likes a woman he will pursue her. You know how men are generally, and they will go after women they're interested in. If a man hasn't expressed interest then that means one of two things : 1) he's not interested or 2) he's to shy/afraid to express his interest (in which case, is this a man you would want to be with anyway? One with no guts and courage to go after what he wants in life? ).... A woman has NO NEED to approach.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/20 03:50 AM
1	Q4W: For attractive women, is dating in any way mysterious to you? Nope he’s not a chad) Chad - lite? I'm kidding. I wasn't trying to imply you're shallow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/20 03:33 AM
1	Q4W: For attractive women, is dating in any way mysterious to you? Listen, you made a mistake, so what? Don't let it define you. Your mistake was trying to move forward and/or be with a girl who you said yourself wasn't "enthusiastic." Now you know this was the issue, you can make sure not to make the same mistake again. But it doesn't mean you have to expect sex from a girl IMMEDIATELY just to ensure that this time it's different. You could miss out or ruin a potentially good connection by having that mentality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/20 03:32 AM
1	Are there really "leagues", and if so, why should you still not try and go for it? I agree completely. When I was single I never had the frame of mind that any woman out there was "out of my league." I never let that bother me or come into play and just went for what/who I wanted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/20 03:05 AM
0	If an unattractive (not fat) woman approached you or signaled interest, what would you think and how would you react? This is true.... Do you agree or disagree? Can you see their point at least?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/20 02:59 AM
2	If an unattractive (not fat) woman approached you or signaled interest, what would you think and how would you react? That preselection is the truth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/20 02:56 AM
0	If an unattractive (not fat) woman approached you or signaled interest, what would you think and how would you react? I would politely let her know that I wasn't interested but thank her anyway and let her know that I'm flattered at her interest in me.... This is how I have always handled those situations. Doesn't have to only be because she's unattractive. I've done the exact same thing with attractive women I had no interest in for one reason or another.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/20 02:38 AM
3	For those of you who believe in "personality theory," what would you say about a man who has no problem making female friends but has difficulty in finding sexual partners and romantic relationships? It's not someone who despises sex it's someone who isn't viewed as a potential sex partner (due to not being attractive enough or whatever else) Same way someone would view their parents, for example. That's why if someone walks in on their parents having sex, it's shock and disgust, like "gross! You guys have sex??!! Wtf!!?" Because they're not even registered as a "sexual being" in that person's mind, as in they SHOULDNT be having sex or have a sex drive even, because "gross!" This is how many…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/20 07:22 PM
1	CMV: TRP never promised to turn a hoe into a housewife. Honestly, Red Pill is just advice, a set of guidelines / information on how the dating market works, which in turn if used properly would make a man more successful / attractive. There is no specific goal of TRP. Every man can decide his own path after utilizing TRP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/20 05:25 AM
1	The decline of the traditional nuclear family in the Western world isn’t necessarily the worse thing as there are alternative family arrangements that could work as well Ok. How's the access to birth control in Colombia?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/20 12:25 AM
1	The decline of the traditional nuclear family in the Western world isn’t necessarily the worse thing as there are alternative family arrangements that could work as well Yeah, you're absolutely spot on. It's incentivized to have kids (because WE are all paying for them). They end up coming out on top either way. Depending on the baby daddy and how much child support he has to pay it could be a little or a whole lot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/20 12:16 AM
4	The decline of the traditional nuclear family in the Western world isn’t necessarily the worse thing as there are alternative family arrangements that could work as well I just don't understand it. Either one of 2 things are happening: 1) women are getting pregnant accidentally, and therefore having kids that are not planned for, and that the mother might not be ready for. Or 2) as you brought up in the example, the women are choosing sometimes to have the children out of wedlock and they still coparent with the father. To me, both are an issue. In the first scenario, why are these children being born "accidentally" to parents that aren't ready for them (the fat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/20 02:56 PM
1	Q4All: How true is the idea that women give “bad” advice to their male Friends/family members? And most of the ones that do were drunk n can barely remember what lead up to it. .... Or who they ended up screwing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/20 03:22 PM
8	Why is higher N count more common on average to below average women? Because an attractive woman does not NEED to use sex to get what she wants, as far as a relationship. She will have men be willing to wait for longer because they want to be with her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/20 02:11 AM
5	Q4W: What percentage of women do you estimate marry men that they aren't sexually attracted to? And ladies this is what every man would like to avoid. Out of those 3 choices that OP listed I personally would choose to die alone, rather than be in a relationship where my wife doesn't sexually desire me. To me, that's a big requirement for marriage. Love is important. Respect is important. Trust is important, etc etc... But I would RATHER my wife sexually desire me than love me..... Etc.... Not saying love isn't important, but I'm saying that being desired is literally more important. I don'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/20 02:08 AM
2	Men who get women pregnant and then leave them behind should be forced to invest their time and money and not force other men or the government to foot the bill Mine was around $7,000 to $8,000 if I remember correctly. But still enough in my opinion to where it should have been addressed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/20 11:45 PM
1	The desire for simultaneous abundance of partners is not male exclusive - most women would have "harems" in an ideal reality/fantasy if they could, just like men Oh it matters what kind of work. What's more attractive, an Army Ranger / Navy SEAL etc, or a male hairstylist? It matters.....	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/20 12:52 PM
1	The desire for simultaneous abundance of partners is not male exclusive - most women would have "harems" in an ideal reality/fantasy if they could, just like men You're right I didn't read it. I skimmed your post because I'm getting ready for work now and that's what I thought you were saying. Anyway, you're right, most men aren't leaders. If you go to my very first initial comment look where I stated "assuming she respects him and is attracted to him and finds him worthy." I was first qualifying my statement with the assumption that the man is a leader. A man who follows is not to be respected or attractive or worthy of submission.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/20 12:42 PM