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Because the female mind is so twisted nowdays, they think "dating them" is a superior outcome as opposed to NSA sex hit it and quit it. The modern woman believes she is so special, even when mediocre at best, that she believes the guy who she's charging more (who's getting less) is actually getting a better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:46 AM
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I know. But in that moment he could have claimed her (even if just for the moment or the night) and he didn't. The other girl cut in on them, and basically took her from him (if only for the moment or night).
/r/TheRedPill03/04/25 05:10 PM
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Asserting authority. It's no different than looking him right in the eyes while pissing in his (former) territory. She stole and claimed his bitch from him.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/25 05:07 PM
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Let's be real. She didn't bother to read the post. Like so many nowdays, due to lack of attention span or something, a 1 minute read is out of the question. Much better to comment based on just the title alone and look like a fool to all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:17 PM
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"Being yourself" is horrible advice. This is actually a very philosophical topic. What actually is "yourself?" I go to the gym, watch what I eat, do cardio, etc for my fitness and my health (so for both looks and longevity/quality of life). Do I enjoy lifting something heavy and then putting it back down? Do I enjoy running, placing one foot in front of the other, for miles on end, while sweating and being uncomfortable? I do enjoy the benefits of it. But I can't say that actually moving the wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:55 AM
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They're just not getting it. It's about standing out in a positive way relative to other men around you. It's why average guys who go to the Phillipines who at 5' 9" they tower over other men do well. It's why the drug dealer does better than the same exact guy who doesn't have access to drugs. It's why in the military the Army Ranger has a higher status than the Army mechanic. The Navy SEAL is higher status than the guy who swabs the poop deck and scrapes shit off the hull, even if they're the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:35 AM
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Not nonsense. Women don't find some guy who sits in a cubicle in a suit for 40 to 60 hours a week exciting. The guy who plays in a band, the guy who just got out of prison, or who just beat a murder case, the Navy SEAL, the Hells Angel member, or the guy who's a DJ in a popular club has far more status than some office drone who wastes most of his life "banking."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:17 AM
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"Status" in terms of shit women actually care about is stuff like being a popular athlete, actor, musician, influencer, thug, fratboy, partier, or nonconformist maverick..... ...even serial killer. Thats why James Holmes (the Aurora theater shooter) has a shrine of pics in his jail cell, with thousands of letters, from young women who simp for him and put money on his books. Before attaining his "status" (fame) he was just an unattractive nerd type. Now he's an unattractive nerd type with "statu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:13 AM
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Maybe a fat girls looksmatch is a muscular guy with an ugly face and receding hairline. So a fat girl's looksmatch is Jason Statham? Lol....no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:54 AM
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That's one of my favorites. The old "You made me mad," excuse. Zero accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:58 PM

Idk who the rest are You've never seen the movie Titanic? It's Jack, played by Leonardo DiCaprio.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:53 AM
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I went the hardest on Jack because there was much to criticize. He was the only child porn producer/distributor & child rapist. Rose should marry whoever she wants, I'm not pushing for the rich guy...the guy was a simping pussy anyway. I'm just pointing out Rose's behavior for such a degenerate as Jack.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:41 PM
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Many of those "heroes" have been changed (precisely to make them more attractive or interesting) or they aren't heroes to begin with. Thor: this guy was literally the black sheep of his family and became a binge drinking alcoholic. Also, he beheads ppl with his axe 🪓 . Superman: character was completely changed from "mild mannered Clark Kent" (unattractive) to the current mysterious, brooding character, who is more of an antihero, sometimes even villain, who Batman must prevent from destroying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:24 AM
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No. I'm saying that if you have these rules, as you stated you did, then there's no problem really with any consistency issues, and it would just be up to the individual guy to decide if he wants to wait X number of months or whatever amount of time until you're ready. But I was speaking from the perspective of a man, which is what matters in this case (like it or not, because we are talking about men). And from the perspective of a man, most men will take issue with any sort of policy of "rules…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:55 PM
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Nice. But if there ever is a single Chad who gets to skirt around this rule, said rule must be destroyed and discarded to the Pits of Tartarus forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:55 AM
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Isn't it obvious what the problem is? You should know this by now, but I'll explain for our hypothetical reading audience: she was "hooking up" or having a "fling" with the our esteemed commenter. His friend was "dating" her. Simply put: Commenter got sex for Free price of admission Commenter's friend had to commit (pay full price) "Never pay full price for what other man got for free." --- Ancient Wiseman Philosopher
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:20 PM
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Let's both be nice. Do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:35 AM
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Be nicer then
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:32 AM
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Be nice
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:26 AM

No. That is an assumption you have created out of thin air. There's a world of difference between a 17 year old girl and an 18 year old woman. Firstly, the 18 year old is an adult and the 17 year old is a child. The 17 year old kid lacks the ability to consent, as any other child does. A 10 year old is closer to the 17 year old than the 17 year old is to the 18 year old, as one category includes little kids and the other full grown adults with agency who can do porn, join the military, etc. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:00 PM
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Even cavewoman "Ugga" was secretly lusting after the hunter caveChad "Chug," and planning to monkey branch up from gatherer BetaBerries "Ug."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:23 AM
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A 30 year old hitting on you when you're 23 is "truly scary?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:32 AM

also, maybe a little bit off topic, but I think men who are so fixated on this stuff are pedophiles. What a downright fiendishly slanderous assumption. I think this whole pedophile deal needs to be banished to the Pits of Tartarus once and for all. This conversation is about legal and biological adults. You're essentially saying "I think men who have a completely normal preference for a certain age range of sexually mature, legal, consenting women are secretly attracted to little children." It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:29 AM
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No one is obsessed. I'm speaking from the male perspective because there is a misinformed belief that men view 30 ywar old women as worthless. That is not the case. We just want to have said woman when she's at her best, which is her "prime" for lack of a better word. And, because this is about a man's perspective and his desires, men decide when a woman's prime is. And we have settled on 18 to 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:52 AM
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It's not that once a woman hits 30 she becomes worthless. It's more like "her prime was 18 to 25, and some other guy(s) got her in her prime instead of me, but now she's ready to 'settle down' with me, past her prime (after having her fun)." That is what men want to avoid. So Red Pill men, who properly have applied Red Pill and gotten their LMS up to acceptable levels to be desirable to women and have options, tend to go for younger women in their prime (because they have the option to do so). A…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 05:04 AM
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Fathers have an equal right to do this. No. The father can give up his rights, but not (financial) responsibility. The woman can drop the kid off at a fire station and be free of rights AND responsibilities. creating a child is bringing someone into existence without their consent, rendering them utterly helpless and dependent on support for everything. Everything you say? Then abortion shouldn't be allowed. You consented to create a child the moment you consented to sex, and now the innocent ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 09:30 AM
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None of your answers are compelling or actually gave me a proper answer, but I do appreciate the response. If the woman cannot provide for her kid, or just doesn't want to, she can give said kid up to the state. If I rob you, should I not be compelled to pay you restitution? Of course. But creating a child is not robbery. Also, we don't have debtors prisons in the US anymore. If you get a judgement against me, restitution or otherwise, you can ultimately take it as far as garnishing my wages or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 09:14 AM
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You have an equal right to make decisions about your own body. No, a man doesn't. He's ordered to pay child support for a kid he didn't want. His choices now are 1) go to work, using his body, time and energy to produce value, which equals money, and then give up some of that money/value against his will (that he traded his body/energy for) or 2) be put in jail, which is a restriction on the freedom of his body. You make the arguement that NO ONE, not even an innocent unborn child or even a born…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:57 AM
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Chad is model tier. Liam Hemsworth is above model tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:59 PM
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That's Giga Chad, not standard issue M1A1 Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:38 PM
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they wouldn’t get a ton out a guy that doesn’t get them going on sight and the risks can’t out weigh the benefits of hooking up with a total stranger. So what do they get out of it? Lousy sex with no orgasm from a stranger, all the risks that come with getting intimate with a stranger like you mentioned, only for what? Validation? Women shouldn't be getting validation just because Chad masturbated inside them like a human fleshlight, because that's not an accomplishment and they already know thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:28 AM
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Never commit to Chad's leftovers. Never be a betabux.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:14 AM
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But they still SLEEP with Chad. This is the issue. Women devaluing themselves and being Chad's slut for the night, becoming damaged goods/leftovers for the guy they do end up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:10 AM
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It is. I don't mean just fit. I mean fit and lean with a 6 pack. Going to the gym daily, picking things up and putting them down, cut/bulk cycles, etc aren't the natural state of men. Being fit from walking and lifting, hunter gatherer activities, construction workers, etc are what I would consider natural. Anyway, my point is men must go above and beyond, so the fit, attractive, successful men are far more of a commodity than a young, slim, feminine, cute woman....as a young, feminine, slim, cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:03 AM
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Being young and slim is a natural state of women. Almost every woman can be young and slim and even with a normal face be considered attractive. They ruin themselves by getting into an unnatural state (fat) and then of course because they're fat they then age horribly and are unattractive. Men have to work to get to an unnatural state (fit and rich) and can never work to be tall. So a slim, fit, young, attractive woman isn't all that special. Every woman was one at some point (or could have been…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:35 AM
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To answer you question what do I consider high / low: Ideal=0 Low=1 or 2 Medium 3 to 5 Medium High 6 or 7 High 8+ Just generally....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:40 AM
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It's under 30 but over 20. I consider that pretty high actually. Almost all if those were girlfriends/LTRS (a few FWB). I could have much higher though and did not seek to actively increase it or conquest numbers (because I'm actually pretty picky). Anyway, this number would be far too high for me to marry a woman with these same numbers. Would i date a woman with these numbers or higher, sure, but "date" as in we are ppl who sleep together, not date with intention of ultimately committing. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:38 AM

Well to be fair, every man? No. You're right there are extremely outliers and exceptions such as swingers that think it's hot for another man to be with his woman. These are the extreme minority, and to debate a topic like this (or most topics) it's most helpful to deal with and discuss the general stance, or the majority,not the fringe minority. So every man? No. Most men? By and large yes. And this is because generally men are possessive,jealous creatures. We are territorial. We are essentiall…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:27 AM

It's not that they "don't care," it's that men select based on their options. If a man only has access to 2 or 3 different women, and all of them are sex and the city sluts living their best life, he will likely choose from that pool, while coping and telling himself that he doesn't mind that the woman he ultimately wifed up to spend his life with and have children with swallowed some random frat bro at a party 5 minutes after meeting him. He cares. It's just something he cannot change, so he (b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:22 AM
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You know 3/4 women on sex and the city ended up married? Probably to simps. I don't watch the show of course. But sluts slutting around the city until they're 38 or 40 years old and then marrying some "high value man" is a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:13 AM

Thats true. And honestly ppl should ultimately do what they want. You're right it doesn't actually make them gay...gay is attraction to men. I guess what I meant moreso was that its kind of taboo for a man, shameful even. Not that there's anything morally wrong with it. But it's pretty shameful I think for friends/family to hypothetically find out a person has that kink as opposed to others, just because of how it looks (the man is essentially switching roles / positions to be the "receiver" of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:08 AM
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Exactly. Sex with women almost doesn't even count. Let's say a woman has sex with 20 women. She's essentially still a virgin. Maybe virgin with an * next to the word. But 1 man will take that title away.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:39 AM
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Hell yeah they count. The person has a dick, and the dick is even involved in said activity. It's not the risk of STD per say, it's the fact that the women gave or derived pleasure to another person with a Y chromosome
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:35 AM
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Well yeah. I mean, I guess it wouldn't make him gay. It's just "questionable" activity or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:33 AM
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Older men aren't in their prime physically...at least potential wise. When a specific man will be in his prime will vary. Let's say he wasted his 20s and early 30s being fat and lazy, but then by 36 he's gotten his act together and looks like Brad Pitt in fight club, he'll be at his prime then. But he could have been at his potential peak probably at 27 or so. I don't think anyone would argue that men are physically prime at 35 or 40. But the combination of things women care about (Looks, Money,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:47 AM
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I never said 35 or 40 was a man's physical peak. But in his late 20s to early 30s, so probably around 27 to 33 he's physically at his peak because he's had time to lift. He's certainly not at his peak at 18 or 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 01:47 AM
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Nice. Knowing nothing else about you, you at the very least have a high degree of credibility in my eyes, and are respectable as a lady. No man has defiled you with his filthy member. Your future husband (if you marry and save it for him) will be very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:59 AM
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This is not realistic for the vast majority of men. Women at that point will be just about to peak (at their highest value) and the men will be just starting out and be at their lowest value. It's a mismatch. It might take a man 10 years or so before he gets up to the level she's already at. This is why men have (traditionally) dated younger women. Less of a mismatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:53 AM
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How would they prove that said woman's self defense story wasn't true? Dead men tell no tales. Robert Soliz defended himself against an off duty road raging cop. Because said cop was dead, Soliz took the stand and told his version of events. The prosecution couldn't prove that what he was saying wasn't true / didn't happen, so he walked and beat the murder charge. My point is: no, a woman armed with a gun being attacked by a man in the woods does not need to contemplate whether she can defend he…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:13 PM
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Doesn't matter. He has a Y chromosome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:05 PM
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A 16 year old is a child Lolz. Stop. You're the one who brought kids Leave the kids out of it. Final warning. And stop with the pedophile accusations. It's sick and twisted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:59 AM
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That's a pedophile Lol, no. And no, according to me most men are not pedophiles. Where did you extrapolate such a disgusting and fiendish lie about me from my comment? According to me (and every psychologist and medical association known to man) men are not pedophiles for finding an 18 year old hot. Pedophile is a phillia, meaning a psychiatric disorder where men are attracted to children. If all men are pedophiles then none of them are. Lets leave the kids out of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:54 AM
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It's very relevant. It's not. Because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Why would I believe you that men care when life experiences tell me otherwise? I already explained, it's not socially acceptable. It's taboo. You're far more likely to get mens true feelings in an anonymous internet forum. 16 year old boys are attracted to 16 year old girls. 🤷‍♂️ Yes they are. And 80 year old men. find 18 year olds attractive. Men's attraction largely remains static. So for example when a man i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:41 AM
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I've never discussed a number of sexual partners with any man. That's irrelevant. It's not considered socially acceptable for men to care. So they pretend that they don't. It's also not socially acceptable for men to find teenage women hot, but they do (en mass). This is biology. Men not having broached topics that could label them a social outcast or have them condemned does not mean they don't care. For most of human history, and even in today's world in non western countries men married virgi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:25 AM
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What I've seen is that some men online care. Men care period, full stop. Barring extreme outliers/exceptions like swingers or whatever. But when it comes to reality, nobody cares. They care. Men i mean. Men definitely care. If they tell you they "don't care" it's one of two things going on: 1) hes gaming you, telling you what you wanna hear so he can sleep with you 2) hes desperate and doesn't have the luxury of caring (but he really does care)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:10 AM
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Nice. You're on to something here. And yes 1N>>>>>> 1 million, billion W
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:06 AM
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How about a guy who makes a girl come using a dildo but not his penis? Adds to D count due to new definition (see below) How about if it's girl-on-girl? Doesn't count, no one with dick in general vicinity. Fingering from a guy? Counts, person with dick involved Fingering from girl? Doesn't count, no dick within 100 meters radius Taking a fist up the ass? From girl, doesn't count, from guy it counts (dick nearby) D Count: Sexual activity with a person with a dick (man)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:59 AM
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Don't know. Maybe not d count because it's not an actual dick. What i do know, however, is that makes him gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:59 AM
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Nice. They don't like to hear the truth and they wanna downvvote me. I'm just the damn messenger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:17 AM
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Yes, all those things you listed are factors too. But ultimately (whether this stems from insecurity or not, so be it) it comes down to us/me competing with other men. Since we are all in competition, all the ghosts of dicks past (if you will) are still competition. And i must be the best. There's no guarantee I'm the best if she's been with 100 other men. So....eliminate the competition. Get a virgin and declare yourself king (for sure you're the best). This isn't exactly socially acceptable to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:12 AM
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Find the exceptions then. That's my advice. Keep in mind this advice applies to men generally at a decent level and pretty well rounded. His LMS must be at a minimum above average. Because finding a woman like this can be difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:07 AM
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TRP has never minded sluts Of course. For recreation, not procreation. TRP is a logical outgrowth or adaptation to the change in society (slut proliferation). They're spinning plates. But not committing to them. Not all men have the same goals. Some want children and a wife. They can use Red Pill as well, as it's merely information that can be utilized to any individuals advantage to help them accomplish their goals. RPW says men prefer lower body counts Right. But WHY? I'm telling you why. I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:02 AM
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So my question to you is, how do you expect to find women who think dicks are disputing and degenerate, with the exception of yours? How do you expect to find a woman who protects herself against male sexuality but will enthusiastically have uninhibited sex with you? This is general “you,” not you specifically. Traditional women. Many women want to explore their sexuality (as this is natural), but they don't go out there and do it because it's shameful in their culture or because of their morals…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:56 AM
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He should take copious notes 📝
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:49 AM
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But since you think sex within LTRs is ok It's not that it's "ok," because mileage is mileage. Think of those miles like highway miles. Think of hookups and ONS as city miles (while also smoking cigarettes in the car and trashing it). It's an analogy. But I think it makes my point. It’s about your sense of unfairness, that someone else had intimate access to her in a way that you didn’t. No. I wouldn't even be with a woman that gave access to another man that I don't get. I wouldn't be ok even g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:48 AM
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What I find hilarious is that with logic like this we can understand that men find their own selves shameful and disgusting, We find dicks shameful and disgusting, yes, this is the truth. Idk what "subconscious implications" or whatever this implies, but this is widely agreed upon by the vast majority of men. We make an exception for our own dick, but others will devalue women. This is nature
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:39 AM
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Ahh I just noticed that. He did say Al, Leo, etc Well played then "I could go on forever baby..."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:33 AM
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It's just one possible example. Women do often sleep with men they know they have no future with or that are all wrong for them at times. So whatever scenario fits that bill,maybe my example wasn't perfect but you get the point i was making. The pussy belongs to her future husband...she knows this. She also knows he won't appreciate a bunch of mileage on it. She puts said mileage on it anyway just for entertainment. You don't see the issue with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:20 AM
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It's from the movie "Home Alone" btw
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:17 AM
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A woman who has sex within a prior relationship is not cucking a future husband, but her having a fwb or hookup is cucking a future husband? Think about it. It comes down to intention. If she knows she wants to marry, and she's in a serious LTR, and she's having sex with said guy, she must actually believe there's a potential future with him and that she may end up marrying him. So it's not exactly cucking. The hot loser at the bar example, she knows Pookie (or Ray Ray) is a loser with a bunch o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:14 AM
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Why not? My sons will live in this fucked up world. Don't worry about me. You worry about yourself buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:06 AM
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She's cucking her future husband. Yes, "retroactive" cucking if you will. Look, if a girl is with a man, in an LTR let's say, and she sleeps with said man i get it she's not exactly cucking future husband guy. But women who know they want to marry eventually, see some hot loser at the bar and have a one night stand with him, yes she's cucking future husband, because she's giving away what will one day be his pussy. It's like you know someone is coming to buy a new car at the dealership, and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:05 AM
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You forgot Lil Mo with the gimpy leg
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:00 AM
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Bro I'm married, and she was a virgin. My personal situation is irrelevant to my general thoughts on the direction I see society going. Why would anyone want to marry a guy who judges them on what they did before they ever met him? To answer this question: a man who wifes up a slut, knowing she's a slut, she'll never respect that man. Because she's essentially cucking him and she knows it. Come on dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:58 PM
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I'm talking wifey material. Yes whores have been around since time immemorial: since Ug discovered fire 🔥 and used it to get laid. As far as hot promiscuous girls, still hit it and quit it....or hit it, keep hitting it, don't wife it up, and split it when something worthy comes along. I'm merely disappointed in the levels of degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:49 PM
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Think about it: Girls used to save their holes for their husband (all of them). Then they started blowing guys and doing anal, still saving their pussies for future husband guy That morphed into still blowing guys + now giving up the pussy, and saving the ass for future husband guy Nowadays, they wanna be wifed up and can't even save a lousy 💩shitter💩 for their future husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:43 PM
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Of course. Anal counts for n count, but some chicks will not count "only a blowjob", anal, or anything other than PIV, due to them (disingenuously) using the definition of n count as "person you slept with" and then playing the Bill Clinton card / definition. D count ("taking a dick") closes said loophole. But I need to adjust it to: any sexual activity with men (M Count, if you will)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:39 PM
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Point taken. You're right, they'll use this as a loophole just like the "poophole 💩 loophole" (which this rule closes). I'll have to formulate an ironclad definition that closes said exit valve.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:26 PM
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Why tf do you think chad is going to benefit Why wouldn't he? He is included in the men, women are swearing off. Lolz. No. If she gets pregnant and chooses to carry to full term then miscarries, she could get sick and die due to D&Cs being banned in the red states. I get the concern. I think it's a bit overblown though. A woman is not going to risk her life over a damn Chad Lolz. You'll be surprised what most women will do for Chad. Women are swearing off all dating, sex, marriage and reproducti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:54 PM
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She ghosted because it was too low bro. The Rule of Three. Generally accepted that men will inflate numbers by multiplying × by 3, so she assumed your real count was 3 (or 4 max). The reverse is true as well. She admits to 7 it's really 21 (women divide ÷ by 3, don't count "only a blowjob", don't count "I was drunk," etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:42 PM
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N-Count: the number of people a person has had sex with (broad term, doesn't just have to be hetero PIV sex) Now, let's further specify a sub classification of n-count, which is "d-count," and let's define that as well. D-Count: the amount of dicks a person has been on the receiving end of (ultimately this means the amount of men you've slept with) With these definitions in mind, now let's address some common discussion topics. First and foremost, you'll notice that n-count and d-count are not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:32 PM
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If a woman can die from an ectopic pregnancy it is literally not safe for any women to have sex with any man. Hey....i completely understand the potential complications. But I don't think that abortion will be banned when medically necessary. But...let's say it is. Let's say the worst possible outcome happens and it's banned federally in all circumstances. Women will adapt: they'll merely limit vaginally sex with Chad, while ensuring a plentiful supply of oral and anal. TLDR: Chad still gets wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:26 PM
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Lol. Nice. Kidding aside though, I just don't believe it. Sure maybe some women will take a "principled stand" and deny Chad's advances, but i just don't see it happening en mass. TLDR: Chad gets what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:02 PM

lol. He cares about his rich powerful buddies like Elon. By voting for trump you actively made half of the female American population less inclined to want to date men BS...women will still date men if they're hot 🔥. So what do we learn from this? Two things: 1) Be hot 🔥 2) Don't be not hot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:19 AM
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I’m so glad I married a man who doesn’t have these sex hangups, it sounds so depressing. So glad my man can live out his porn fantasy with me - and that I can live out like with him! That is a good way to look at things, I admit. And I would think that most men would certainly want a woman to have this attitude. However, going back to the OP's scenario about casual sex and all that, do you not see, that from the man's perspective, the casual sex guys got for "free" what husband had to "pay full …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:36 AM
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OP yes I think similarly to this as well, in that my test is slightly modified. I always used "Brad Pitt in his prime," but the meaning is exactly the same. Would she or wouldn't she for Bradd Pitt in his prime or Chris Hemsworth and so on.... Absolutely yes, she would. So if she won't for you, then there's an issue, because the goal (at least "goal" in terms of interactions with women) is to have her going crazy about and submitting to you, just as she would said A-Lister super hunk.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/24 11:32 PM
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Unfortunately they have to deal with being offended. It's unfortunate but the reality of if make biology. I think as long as someone isn't crossing a line of violating another person's rights then we all have to deal with things we may not like. So young women will always be desired by older men. When I was 18 I thought 18 year old women were hot. 10 years later they were still hot. 10 years later at 38, yup, they're still hot. And going on down the line they'll forever remain hot. MY age is irr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:33 PM
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Firstly, I'm not patronizing. And you're right we here on Reddit don't know your life or situation or anything about you. All we have to go on is what we see and do know. And the comment was made with that in mind. I agreed with the commenter that your conduct was a bit different (and refreshing) from the usual, so I pointed that out. You can agree or disagree or whatever but we can drop it because I feel you're getting upset, and there's no need for all of that. Oh and secondly, and this is off…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:25 PM
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It's definitely character development and growth. You normally would NOT take responsibility or take a step back to think about and to realize that the commenter had a point. The "old you" would have doubled down and dug her heels in, further and further entrenching herself into her position. This is a good thing. Hopefully you're turning over a new leaf. Edit to add this: Oh and btw I'm not implying you're the only one or women are the only ones who need to grow and have character development. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 05:08 PM
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Those 18 to 22 year old women are adults when it suits them. They're adults enough to be able to drink, smoke, join the military and fight in wars, do porn if they so choose, vote, and operate several thousand pound automobiles that can go 100 miles per hour and where a mistake can literally kill people (themselves and others)... but they're not adults enough to choose who they want to have sex with. They're adults enough to have sex mind you, but not if they choose to be with a man who's older.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:24 AM
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You would disown your son for believing that mate competition and human sexual dynamics are tricky, but possible to successfully navigate if you have the right information, and as such, men should focus their growth on looks, money, and status to increase their desirability...? I doubt you would disown your son for believing that. Because that's what Red Pill merely is: the information that looks, money, and status are the best things to maximize (as a man) to be attractive to the opposite sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:35 PM
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1312 "Yes, EVEN your dad."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:58 PM
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No, but they will enforce compliance of whatever "they" (the court system, backed by men with guns / cops) decide, because the government now has become the final arbiter in these two ppls lives. So hypothetically, a woman marries a man and has children. A man does something to piss off the woman enough to where she wants a divorce. Now he is at the mercy of the court, who can decide things like alimony, splitting of assets, child support (which is often excessive and benefits the mother), child…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:40 PM
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Men with guns and the potential to use state sanctioned violence to force compliance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:23 PM
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"Be hot" would not be the advice or the extent of the advice. A boy should be told something along the lines of: "Son, women like men who have nice bodies. You're a man, and you're gonna have to accept the harsh reality of being in for years of picking heavy things up and putting them down. See your sister over there? She just has to not get fat and she's good to go. Not you son, you're a man. You have to lift weights. It's just the world we live in so accept it." And then make sure he gets star…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:34 PM
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I'd prefer not to think of anyone I'm in a position of adult power over getting anyone wet and certainly wouldn't advise them on the subject. That's exactly my point. Mothers don't tend to give their sons good dating advice because they don't come into the scenario viewing their baby as a sexual being who wants to have sex (which is a natural desire/drive). So they give the advice of being nice and all that, but the FIRST thing a man must do is capture a woman's interest/attraction. This is most…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:13 PM
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"Being kind" and all that doesn't get girls wet. The question was about dating advice. "Dating" is done by men for the ultimate end goal of sex. It's the reason (straight) men don't date other men or their buddies, because ultimately, at the end of the road, they're wanting sex. So that's why men date (for sex). So the question about "dating advice" is really asking how can this young man be sexually successful with women. Now that we've established what the question is truly asking, I again rei…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:58 PM
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Of course your raise them to be healthy and happy and there's lots of things to teach them. But this topic was about dating advice. The best thing you can do to maximize your sexual success with women is look good, as that gets you past the first disqualifier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:44 PM
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Why? We have the formula. We know what works. Why withold knowledge that would greatly help your child instead of hoping they learn it (which may take years, or may never happen)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:04 PM
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I agree social skills are important. But I think if you look good, you will most likely naturally have a social life and in turn build social skills and have a social life. Ppl like attractive ppl. Ppl want to date, be friends with, hang out with etc attractive ppl. So all that comes from that. It's rare to have a fit, attractive, well groomed / well dressed boy that isn't popular or at least somewhat popular. It's much more common for social skills to stagnate BECAUSE someone is viewed as unatt…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:56 PM
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Yes it's hugely important. Especially with the crap food and diets that are so common here. I think a lot of mothers (naturally) view their children through rose tinted glasses. They see their son as handsome and all that. It's not about a mother viewing her boy as handsome, it's about is he attractive to the opposite sex. These mothers that think their boy is handsome and good looking (but he's chubby and does nothing but play video games) wouldn't even date him if they were a girl his age, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:27 PM
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I should have mentioned healthy diet habits as well. Because someone can "play sports" but still not LOOK GOOD.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:18 PM
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Yes, because they fail to see their son as / realize that he will one day (soon) be a sexual being. So they think it's "cute" that he has chubby cheeks or whatever, and they see him as their "handsome, strong little man" when in reality he's not being set up to be attractive to women. Look at some of the answers here. Tell him to "be kind, honest, have interests" and "have and maintain a social life." That's all good and well. But it won't get him past the LOOKS THRESHOLD to have a girl like him…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:00 PM
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But even if we let's say prevented their names and stuff from being released (hypothetically), the point is women still cream their pants over these guys because dangerous / violent men are hardwired into their lizard brain to be attractive. They just don't want to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:02 PM
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Yes, James Holmes the Aurora Colorado theater mass shooter has a shrine with pictures and love letters pinned up in his jail cell. He has hundreds of attractive young women writing to him and putting money on his account. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sdut-fan-letters-james-holmes-released-2015sep12-story.html Check out that link. Also, check out what he looks like. I doubt he had women creaming over him before he killed a bunch of ppl. But soon as he does he has …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:39 PM
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Why can't you? She doesn't feel the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:17 PM
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That community info on the first link is quite a trip. "STFU!!" "Lift weights!" "Don't fail the shit tests!" It's like some sort of sci-fi nerd fanbase. :D Is that bad advice? It's saying lift weights (to stay in shape, which is important for maintaining attraction in an LTR), STFU (as in don't complain, and stoically accept the high standards you must maintain), and don't fail her shit tests (as in maintain your masculine image and always have her respect you as a competent leader). I see that …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:09 PM

I think you're moreso picturing a controlling man who beats you. Of course women wouldn't like that. But dominant men (leadership, competence, confidence, masculinity, etc) with a capacity for controlled violence if necessary (towards other men/potential threats) are most definitely a turn on for many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:52 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Their shaming tactics are known and accounted for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:32 AM
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When do men constantly assert this? We are very open here that yes looks is first and foremost for us, and along with looks comes "don't be fat." Looks, youth, agreeableness... The Big 3, if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:19 AM
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But my point is even with all the differences between you, you both likely still like the same thing: tall, attractive, confident, physically fit men (Chads). This whole women aren't a monolith thing only goes so far. In general, women are attracted to the same general things, regardless of their own personalities. So the attractive cheerleader and the introverted bookwork girl both like the same football captain Chad. The less attractive bookworm may end up with a nerdy "unconventional" guy, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:15 AM
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Sounds like you want a woman who is into shy guys. That's probably going to be a shy woman Lol, no. Even the shy bookworm girl is pining after the confident and outgoing Chad. Women are attracted to different things than men. In general, men tend to be attracted to feminine traits and women to masculine traits. And shyness is not a masculine trait, so even shy girls aren't gonna think shy guys are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:21 PM

You think a man can use the same “technique” on me and the Mormon? GTFO. Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:13 PM
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Yes, but you're saying you don't like their actions and assumptions you've made about their personality. The question remains tho... Are they hawt? Is Henry Cavill or Brad Pitt in Troy or Fight Club attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:25 PM
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Would you consider yourself Red Pilled? Because you seem to honestly acknowledge the truth of women's sexual selectivity, which is a core Red Pill belief, and not sugar coating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:40 PM
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You can't even improve yourself and up your game nowadays without it being labelled "manipulation." This is ridiculous. Is going to the gym and looking your best "manipulation" because it "manipulates" women into finding you attractive? Is taking your financial situation seriously "manipulation" because it "manipulates" a woman into finding you as a man who has his shit together? Red Pill is information about women and what they find attractive. A man can use this for whatever course of action h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:20 PM
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Yes, because tingles. Attractive assholes are superior in the eyes of women to unattractive non assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:03 PM
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It grants no rights. It restricts government from infringing upon inalienable rights. Every amendment in the bill of rights is a restriction on government from infringing on an inherent right. Even the "right to a lawyer" isn't a right to a lawyer being granted, it's saying the government can't charge you without you having a lawyer (so again, a restriction on government). You think a government grants me my right to life? You have a European slave type thinking where you wait for your monarch t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:01 PM
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Nope you lost and it's clear. Trump asked the DOJ, there are numerous sources on it, including the one I gave you and an active court case going on right now. Yes ATF is a law enforcement agency that falls under the DOJ (and shit rolls downhill, from the DOJ to the ATF) and enforces firearms laws and regulations, hence they regulate. It's in their mission statement for crying out loud. And the definition of a human right is an inalienable right that all human beings are inherently born with. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:25 AM
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But neat, appreciate your comments focused solely on calories. Forget about the term "calories," as a calorie is just a unit of measurement for calculating energy. You could create your own units and call them "gobblyguks," and so long as they were quantifiable they could be used instead. So energy is what it comes back to yes, so the conversation should ultimately be focused on energy, because the entire basis of the topic is to do with energy (body fat, which is stored energy). Hormones made m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:19 AM
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Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:16 AM
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but man would it shut a lot of people up if they could see what my girlfriend looked like. Nice. So she's pretty hot then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:43 PM
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I agree there are other things that impact a person's body. For example, a person on medication that "makes them gain weight." But when this side effect is listed (weight gain), it's a dumbed down version. The actual medication contains no energy, so it does not cause fat gain. Body fat is energy, and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, and the medication is not energy. What it might do is "increase appetite," which may make a person decide to eat more due to this increased appetite, which g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:27 PM
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The facts are : body fat isn't controllable But that's just absolutely a false statement. Have you never known a single person in your life that has gone on a diet (restricted their caloric intake) and lost body fat? We have thousands upon thousands of documented cases like this right here on Reddit, with evidence in the form of progress pictures, and entire subs dedicated to documenting this. Body fat "being controllable" means the following: we can increase it (at will) by eating at a caloric …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:13 PM
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Bodies and health are no laughing matter to me. I just found it funny how you took a position, the commenter made a very informed statement with facts to back it up. And then you dismissed his comment and addressed nothing he said while still claiming your position, but without explaining your reasoning. It's the equivalent of "Trust Me Bro." If you have some secret information that we, and I'm sure others in our hypothetical reading audience could benefit from, don't leave us in suspense! Let u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:59 PM
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It is far more complex than "controllable". Lolz And that's science Lolz It's weird the focus is always on calories. I didn't even mention calories. Calories didn't even cross my mind. Lolz I just thought it was funny. Because scientifically, it is. Lolz
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:50 PM
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Agree. Men can't just "not be fat." That's not really good enough. Men have to have some muscle on their frames while being lean. So they have to have muscle and be skinny (lean) at the same time. Women can just "not be fat" and we find that great. Also, I strongly agree with your post in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 10:40 PM
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Don't know. I'm not the one who espoused that formula. I was merely asking the commenter for more details regarding said formula (Scribbles in notepad)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:30 PM

Sure....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:50 PM

Bye Felicia
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:49 PM

Bye Felicia
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:46 PM

Yes you did
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 07:45 PM
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A 10 second google search would have shown you the Trump administration and his bump stock "redefining" https://www.npr.org/2018/12/18/677788059/justice-department-bans-bump-stocks-devices-used-in-deadly-las-vegas-shooting It's an active court case right now. And yes, the ATF is the regulatory agency that regulates firearms. So, now that you've been proven a fool, and that was just in the response to your first sentence , I'll just leave it at that and call it done and call you defeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:34 AM
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Where does Quasimodo who treats a girl excellently fall into that formula?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:41 AM
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He never did this Yes he did. After one of the mass shootings he ordered the ATF (which falls under his executive branch authority) to "re-evaluate" their definition of what a machine gun is. They "redefined" bump stocks into machine guns. The case is in the courts now and we are working towards a favorable outcome back to where they are not classified as machine guns. You clearly don't get what a human right is/are. A human right is an inalienable right that no one has the right to deny another…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:30 PM
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And yet you are a libertarian. If I had to classify yes. Trump's not libertarian at all, he's more authoritarian. Does he politically push legalizing drugs, prostitution, other vices? No. He pushed against gun rights. He's racist. Etc etc. Owning a gun isn't a human right. It absolutely is a constitutional right, which are inalienable rights that every human is born with. So yes, I have a human right to own an assault rifle "Well regulated" back in those days would mean properly equipped / in go…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:46 PM
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No I'm not MAGA. I don't like or respect or agree with Trump actually. If I had to classify politically, I would say Libertarian (live and let live and stay out of everyone else's business). Ain't it funny how countries with far more gun control have far fewer gun related deaths? Just because they get a specific outcome that's positive by violating their citizens' human rights doesn't mean that's acceptable. ignores the "well regulated" part of the 2nd amendment. I'm glad you brought that up. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:00 PM
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Shall not be infringed Btw, and I really wanna know this so I hope you respond, how do you feel about the Supreme Court Bruen decision last summer set to demolish any and all gun laws unless they were a part of our nation's historical tradition going back to 1791?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:39 PM
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In the scenario the commenter gave yes, the scenario was about men carrying off my wife. They're already commiting a violent act (kidnapping). Deadly force is authorized to be used in that situation regardless of if they're armed or not. She then asked what if they have a gun? I was saying then they're a deadly threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:37 PM
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Fearmongers? By acknowledging we live in a world with a potential for violent encounters? No that's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:20 PM
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A potential deadly threat yes. Everyone can be armed with a gun in their hip and there would be no problem. I'm very comfortable around others carrying guns. They become a deadly threat to me when they draw it. Just having one is fine, more ppl should take their safety into their own hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:19 PM
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No I'm just a man who is methodical and takes personal responsibility for my safety and who knows the horrors of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:16 PM
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So you refuse to give your opinion on the question I asked, if so we are done here, no need to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:11 PM
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Anyone carrying a gun in their pocket is an idiot. It should be in a proper holster specifically designed for that weapon and you should have practiced your draw 1000 times.... Then another 1000 just for good measure. Not a day goes by where I don't practice my draw probably 10 to 20 times in a day. But I wanna know how you feel about Bruen basically making gun control soon to be extinct?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:03 PM
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No I just know the reality of the world. You, on the other hand, live in delusion. I would also like you to know in case you're not current on politics (American politics, idk where you're from), that gun control laws across the country are toppling like dominoes thanks to the Supreme Court Bruen decision last summer. Soon all 50 states will be free once again, concealed carry will be standardized across the country (without a need for a government issued "permission slip" / permit), suppressor …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:03 PM
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Yes I understand. And I believe this is one of the reasons a lot of women don't like Red Pill. Because a guy who does all the work to be High Value isn't "naturally High Value", he just grinded it all out with sweat and determination and commitment, which in itself is admirable, but again it's not "natural," and I feel a lot of women don't like the idea that a man can level up just through sheer determination alone and basically throw off the balance of where they classified him initially in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 05:18 PM
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So it's true then? Women want "naturalz" correct? Is it the same when a guy is fit because he works out and watches his diet, but let's say left to his own devices and if he didn't he would be out of shape? The guy who is just naturally fit and shredded is superior in the eyes of women over the guy who has to work for it, because the guy who has to work for it is "masquerading as a guy with good genes..." Would you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:51 PM
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Again. You think you can outgun this person, who's a hardened criminal ... Well if I can't outgun him then I ask who is able to? Don't say police because I'm far better trained than them. Life is not a movie Of course it's not. But deadly threats exist, do they not? The vast majority of peoples lives aren't threatened in this manner, That's good. But ppl should be prepared to fight for their life and to protect those they love, should they not? Or they can go with the alternative, and just give …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:52 AM
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Then he's a deadly threat, is he not? All the more reason to use deadly force. Life isn't a movie. Of course not. That's why I'm not playing around with my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:07 AM
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Absolutely. And they should carry a firearm to protect themselves against a bigger stronger threat (a man). But they should make sure they become proficient (through training) and ensure they mentally prepare for that level of potential violence. But absolutely yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:06 AM
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My point is we live in an imperfect world with evil ppl in it. And as such, a possibility of a violent and deadly encounter can occur at any time, can it not? A lot of ppl don't think about this and mentally prepare for it. And mental preparation is hugely important. I have mentally prepared and accepted this long ago, and as such, I'm always prepared to use deadly force should the need arise. Not saying I live a life of constant violence. Forget about my military time (which had significant amo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:22 PM
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Two guys carrying my wife off into the night? I'm killing someone.... Literally, I'm pulling a pistol and dropping at least one, the other will probably flee or surrender. Your husband did what he needed to do in order to make sure the situation was resolved. But here's my question, what if they didn't comply and just continued carrying you off? A man has to be prepared to use violence at any point in time, every single day. Everyday I wake up I know that it's possible I may have to kill someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:53 PM
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As requested, here's your source: https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=APwXEdfevhTwOHL_SPDrsd_PjiBQnanXUw:1684621623744&q=trust+me+bro+meme&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC_9rL-IT_AhWYl2oFHXxoDzsQ0pQJegQICRAB&biw=384&bih=726&dpr=1.88#imgrc=Z2FIUh18RAp3RM
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:28 PM

But she did. Would you like a source on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:20 PM

A man is sexually assaulting his woman right in the middle of the street and right in front of him and the guy does nothing about it. Are you serious? The man will lose respect in that situation because he's expected not to "allow" that to happen. Modern humans may be "enlightened" in many ways, but some things operate on a base and primal level. Many women will readily admit to losing attraction for a man like that, and there was a commenter in this thread who admitted it. To be clear, I'm not …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:06 PM

You're right. I can't be any clearer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:59 PM

Of course he has. And he will continue to bag hot women. Give anyone on the face of the planet the same stats and they will bag hot women. But he's still Blue Pill and displays Beta traits. I'll give you an example: letting his drinking get out of control as well as his temper. This is weakness. Alpha men should display strong leadership traits and never display weakness like this, and they should always be leading and setting the example. So yeah, he can bag hot chicks forever. But he needs to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:31 PM

What I'm saying is he's Brad Pitt, he has ultra high levels of LMS, of course he can fuck multiple women. But he has weaknesses that are exposed once women get in relationships with him. On paper, he has everything going for him. He's not Red Pilled. He's just a natural giga Chad. But he doesn't display Alpha behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:24 PM

Bitcoin currently trades for just under $30,000 per coin. Plenty of guys made serious money off of it. It's considered a far more risky investment than traditional investments, but the results are actually quantifiable and real (can be converted to actual cash in your hand). The comparison is not a good one at all to astrology, for example, and believing ppl with certain signs (based on position of planets) are more compatable or susceptible to displaying certain traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:44 PM

Getting your ass kicked can trigger the ick yes, depending on how ungracefully you get your ass kicked. But refusing to fight is always going to trigger far more ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:33 PM

It just is what it is. Women can say whatever they want and front, but it's a fact that a man who won't get violent when she thinks he should get violent will dry up the pussy and she will lose respect for him. It has to do with lizard brain 🦎 and wanting a protector. Even women who think they have "evolved beyond such primitive expectations" are slaves to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:31 PM
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There's all different types. There's guys who follow the family business like you said, but they are second chance pathways. I'm in the trades right now myself. Lots of felons (at least here in the Los Angeles area).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:27 PM

Then call her crazy, not me. She's the one who did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:02 PM
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Guys in the trades come from entirely different backgrounds. Trades, while good careers, are also "second chance" pathways.... They hire felons, guys who've been to prison, guys who had / have drug issues, guys with tattoos on their faces, etc. Guys that fall into this category lived entirely different lives before and are rebuilding themselves positively, but they also probably did well or at least decent with women before and can continue to do so even after cleaning up their act. Not all guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:59 PM
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Firstly: lolz Secondly: be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:18 PM
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I stand against fraud and in support of victims of fraud ✊
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:10 PM

I know there's no push, the trend never caught on. But that was the intention. she did it proactively because of the BCRA gene That was the excuse she gave the media, as I said. I'm literally not making this up. Would you like a source on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:05 PM
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Some things change, as we can't help aging. But some things don't have to and shouldn't change. Just because ppl get older doesn't mean they have to "change" and for example get fat, get complacent, stop having freaky sex, stop prioritizing their spouse's needs, etc. Ppl use this as an excuse. You should do everything in your power not to change because you're in a relationship and have responsibilities and your partner has expectations. Stop defending bait and switch fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:59 PM

Ok as far as those points ppl make, about women going after abusive or violent men or criminals, that is merely to prove a point about attraction and how important it is ... That women would rather fuck an attractive gang member / drug dealer who's exciting than an average or unattractive computer programmer who's not exciting. But Red Pill doesn't promote being a drug dealer or being violent / abusive. It promotes being the best you can be and not displaying weaknesses.... Being stoic and compe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:35 PM

How? Red Pill is about being a high value man, and being the best version of yourself you can be. It's about being a leader in your relationship as well. A leader has to set the example and be stoic and competent and have his shit together. What ever made you believe Red Pill would promote being an alcoholic / addict and being abusive and having a temper? Someone like that is not setting the example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:24 PM

Yes. He's successful because he has the highest levels of Looks, Money, and Status. Of course he will be successful with women, he has all the qualities they want (on paper). But in practice, when it came to relationships, he didn't know what he was doing and his weaknesses were exposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:18 PM

Nope. Lacking self control and showing weakness (in this case reliance on substances and inability to control his emotions/temper) is the opposite of Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:16 PM
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Arrogance or a woman being conceited is a huge attraction killer. It's a very ugly trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:13 PM
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Bait and switching is not normal or acceptable human behavior. It's unethical. It's basically fraud. They made a contract (marriage) with the expectations of maintaining the relationship they had. He failed in his part (becoming abusive) and she failed in her part (not providing him with what she used to). And the relationship was "over" long before those incidents happened. Soon as she stopped being the little freak he married it was over.... It was just on the track of a slow death instead of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:57 PM
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She bears responsibility for their relationship failing (or at least some responsibility). He bears responsibility for his abusive actions She bait and switched him by being a total freak and getting him to leave Jennifer Aniston because he thought he secured long term freaky sex with an attractive woman, then she became a soccer mom
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:48 PM

Those could definitely be factors as well, as well as other factors neither you nor I mentioned. But I think the points I made are valid and factors as well and apply to not only his situation, but modern relationships in general
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:45 PM
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Re-read my previous comment, the bold and italicized part. I can't make it any clearer, and it seems you're not debating in good faith because I'm being extremely clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:41 PM

He'll be fine. And he did it to himself. I'm merely pointing out that there's valuable lessons in this: Don't get married Don't let them get too comfortable (this relates to point 1) Keep them chasing you Don't relax and get complacent Even a man with everything going for him, in this case Looks, Money, Status, and Pre-Selection all to the highest levels will fail if he doesn't use Red Pill truths to his advantage, whether knowingly or unknowingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:39 PM

For him being abusive: nope, not her fault at all For bait and switching him: absolutely her fault
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:36 PM

No. He already had a beautiful and high value woman, Jennifer Aniston. Angelina had to come with something better. That something better was better sex. I think she honestly did it for the genes, get ultra giga Chad genes of Brad Pitt for her own kid. Soon as she secured that she checked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:35 PM

I said if she would have done her part in the marriage and been a proper wife he wouldn't have been depressed and they wouldn't have had the problems they did. He's responsible for letting it get to that point. She's not responsible for the decisions he made that were wrong, but she has responsibility in their relationship having problems and failing, which led to that issue (which he's still responsible for)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:24 PM

When she met him she was a freak. Remember her and Billy Bob Thornton? They "fucked in the car on the way here" (to the Academy Awards) and carried vials of each other's blood. She pulled Brad in with freakiness and that's what he expected and then she just stopped and she became supermom
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:21 PM

Nope. That's the excuse she gave the media. The reality is 2 fold: She didn't want them anymore (the hassle of dealing with them) She did it for "feminism purposes," same way women burned their bras and stopped shaving their legs and she hoped this caught on as an empowerment trend
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:19 PM

I didn't say it was her fault. He's completely responsible for his actions and he put himself in that position to begin with. I'm criticizing him and using him as a example of what not to do. But the reality is also every effect has a cause. If for example, someone murdered and raped one of my kids, and I hunt him down and murder him, I am in the wrong and will go to jail because I'm a murderer... And I would be responsible for my actions. But the reality is cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:18 PM

No. Brad Pitts mental health got worse because he was unhappy. His drinking got out of hand and he started to be abusive. What he did isn't defendable and I'm not defending the actions. But every effect has a cause. If she would have prioritized being the wife he thought she was gonna be instead of bait and switching him, they would probably be together and be happy still.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:21 PM

Brad Pitt (the "sexiest man alive") couldn't even keep a chick. He's a great actor, but he's a Blue Pill liberal (as are many actors). He thought he could get by just on his looks and got comfortable. Made Angelina Jolie waaay too comfortable instead of her still having to chase him like in the beginning. In the beginning, she had to compete with Jennifer Aniston (so he's not only hot, but pre-selected). Soon as she "won" and he let her get comfortable, she adopted a bunch of kids, focused all h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:16 PM
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Ahh ok. Well she's hot. I would totally smash btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:56 PM
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I'm attracted to everything from skinny/slim to average to athletic. The reason I think a skinny/slim girl is a good pick is because you have more room to work with. If she gains a bit of weight in the future (either relationship weight or as she ages) then she will be average. A girl who's already average will go to overweight. So it's more of a future planning or "preventative maintenance" if you will. Same thing with younger women. A woman who's 30 can be hot 🔥, but a woman who's 20 who's hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:45 PM
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Who's your avatar?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:57 AM
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Damn, Australian Chad made quite the impression then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:47 AM
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Yes. Except that there's no "proving himself innocent" as he is and always will be a threat, as is every other man. This Giga Chad is just a higher level threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:45 AM
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Anything less is a disservice to yourself. Anything less is downright uncivilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:39 AM
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Damn those were some good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:27 PM

They also tax they hell out of their citizens, cost of living and rent in particular is through the roof, they have a massive homeless population because of this, they restrict ppl's Constitutional rights, and they have many other problems. I'm a California native, but I've lived in many other states and even on other continents. CA is definitely one of the worst states in the nation. Texas was amazing in comparison, as were all the other "Red States" I've lived in such as Georgia and Florida. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:57 PM
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Those gurus ultimately are just businessmen and entertainers at the end of the day. No Red Pill man needs to follow a guru. Red Pill information is pretty basic at its fundamental level. It's the information. Women are more shallow than many men were most likely led to believe, combined with the fact that the modern young woman is the pickiest generation of women to ever walk this earth (because they're all working, financially independent, and don't need no man), men must improve in the Looks, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:08 AM

Why would they be my boss though? The only reason I can think of is they're more experienced than me in whatever field and more qualified. That's not likely to happen, but assuming that exact scenario existed, and assuming the 18 year old was more qualified, then I would accept it. Whoever is qualified to lead should lead, regardless of age. I've had older ppl underneath me. You have to draw the line somewhere, and 18 is pretty old to consider someone an adult, it's already pretty high, and well…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:48 AM

Yes, student loans can be a negative if they don't do their due diligence and plan ahead, but ultimately that's a choice that an adult makes. Same with the sleeping with someone older. We have to draw the line somewhere. Also, that 18 year old may be a "brand new adult" but so many ppl act like they were just born. Remember, that's what the last 18 years have been about, preparing them for this moment. Some 40 year olds aren't financially literate. Since maturity, life experiences, and competenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:36 AM

What's creepy about supporting the rights and autonomy of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:25 AM
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https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sdut-fan-letters-james-holmes-released-2015sep12-story.html Look at the guy! He was clearly an unsuccessful, loner type loser who didn't get women. Now look at his prison cell full of sexy photos of young women who write to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:07 PM

Don't be mean
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:59 PM
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Men place value on much different things than women do. This should be well known by now. Our natures are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:42 PM

I would delve deeper and see what else she offers...but she's off to a damn good start. And I would be fine with her being direct and asking me as well. I feel being very direct will eliminate a lot of potential issues ppl have because communication and expectations are not established beforehand and assumptions are made instead. Ppl should absolutely be direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 03:36 PM
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James Holmes isn't hot. He's the Aurora Colorado theater mass shooter. He has groupies. I think the difference is Jodi Arias is hot, so men will write to her. But women will write to and be groupies for even not hot male killers because the action is hot to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:29 PM
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Yes I saw that. I'm glad you changed your mind. I made that comment for anyone else to see as well 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:15 PM

No it doesn't. Because not much of her personality was described, except for the previous comment of agreeable personality. I was blending the two women you and the other poster described together because yours was a follow on comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:14 PM
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No. I stand in full support and solidarity with 18 year old women to have full agency as the adults they are, along with all the rights that go along with that. I am firmly against any oppression of young women to take their choices away about what they can do with their bodies. Their body their choice! ✊ (Standing in solidarity with young women for their human rights)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:12 PM

That woman is quite a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:02 PM

Sounds perfect. That woman's quite a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 01:00 PM

I don't find it offensive. But I think ppl do because it presents the "ugly" and harsh reality that a relationship is transactional. Ppl here like to say relationships aren't transactional, but they absolutely are. Ppl only enter relationships once they do what's basically a cost benefit analysis. You look at the other person and what their qualities are (what they bring to the table, what you'll be getting out of the deal, etc) and then look at yourself and what you'll be required to bring to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:53 PM
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Rule 1. Be hot 🔥 Rule 2. Don't be not hot 🔥 Rule 3. Don't not be hot 🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:08 AM
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That's fine. I'm not advocating that we restrict their rights. But with rights come other things because the system changes. So women have decided, en mass, that sampling Chad is priority, that's fine. But with that men are now going to operate a certain way and operate in their best interests. And many men are waking up! This is only the beginning. The younger generation especially is becoming Red Pilled in large numbers. When I talk to younger guys a lot of them are already up on game. And tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:54 AM

You would have to evaluate if you think she's being genuine, or vetting you and trying to give you just enough rope to hang yourself. That's what I meant. Can we talk about your cat avatar for a second tho .... Why's she so sexy? 🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:17 PM

He's not a rapist because as of now it's just an accusation. The guy who killed all the ppl at the Aurora Colorado movie theater shooting wasn't a murderer until he was convicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:07 PM
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It wasn't like this before the sexual revolution and women demanded their sexual freedom, free to sleep around without societal shame and free from the consequences because Daddy Government is there as a last resort to bail them out for their bad decisions. If women, en mass, re adopted traditional values, and for example didn't sleep with ANY men until marriage and every man got exactly 1 non fat young woman issued to him this wouldn't be necessary. But women decided they wanted to be able to "…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:05 PM

Know your enemy -- Sun Tzu You gotta evaluate this on a case by case basis and strategize beforehand. Also, your cat avatar is hot 🔥 I like it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:00 PM

Guys don't care about n count for sex tho, only for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:58 PM

Re-read my first two sentences in the previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 08:22 PM

Let's tackle one issue at a time tho? Because the issues aren't dependent upon the opposite scenarios. I'm not disagreeing with you. But let's first establish my postion. So you agree with my take?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:55 PM

We have the formula. The formula works. I don't make the rules. RP truths are as true as math. They're as true as 1+1=2. In fact, I'm more confident in Red Pill truths than the statement 1+1=2 because someone looong ago could have fucked the math up and we've been doing it wrong this whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:51 PM
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So it does get under your skin? (Pulls pen from pocket protector, scribbles in notepad)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:43 PM
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I will notify the scientific community that you disagree with the Laws of Thermodynamics (Scribbles in notepad)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:41 PM
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I will notify the scientific community that you disagree with the Laws of Thermodynamics (Scribbles in notepad)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:40 PM
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I agree. But women made it this way, not men. I'm just playing by the rules that men have had to adapt to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:17 PM
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No my point was that know who you're opponent is. Dating dynamics are a game. With two opposing "sides" who are using strategy to ultimately get what they want (sex, committment, what have you). So know your "opponent" you're playing against. So if it's a blue haired feminist who would filter for these traits, but you also want sex, you could theoretically use these tactics to get past her screening in order to have sex. These may not be necessary with women who are submissive antifeminusts, for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:11 PM

No it was a joke. In the movie training day a guy says something about "tax that ass for days" and I added on the Tea Act because it was a tax. Red Pill men don't hate women. Misogynists do. Red Pill men are just men who know the truth. Some are misogynists some aren't. Some blue pill men are misogynists some aren't. But women on this forum believe all RP men are misogynists, that's why I quoted it in my comment before you know it you've slept with a "Red Pill misogynist"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:03 PM

She's not losing out. I was agreeing with your point. As sex is mutual. The goal isn't to make the woman lose out, the goal is to tax that ass like the Tea Act in the 1700's
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:45 PM
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But what if he's a "natural" who's never heard of Red Pill? You can screen for traits and actions yes, but you can't ultimately tell if he follows Tate or views RP content. Naturals exist. I'm saying a RP guy can pretend to be a natural, can he not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:43 PM

Men want to "tax that ass for days" I don't make the rules. Because biology. Take it up with the textbooks and molecular structures if you take issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:41 PM

No, she was the one vetting in that scenario, for a RP man. Using that technique will avoid. "Know your enemy" -- Sun Tzu
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:39 PM
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Well that's not me. I was very successful, not some fat paper pusher. I retired (medically) as a Sergeant First Class (E-7) which I made in 9 years. So at the time of my retirement I was about to have my first look for E-8. I am a warrior first and foremost before anything else. It is my identity, because there's no more serious of an identity on the planet. Actors? Lol. They pretend to be me in movies. Athletes? Lol. They play a game ultimately. Nothing is more serious than men fighting other m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:01 PM
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It's a joke to get under her skin (and any women reading). It seems it accomplished it's purpose (Scribbles in notepad)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:49 PM

No it didn't bother me. I just wanted to inform them so they can stop the BS
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:48 PM

Yeah that's true but it ultimately plays into sex too because we are in competition with other men. A man who conquers his enemies and declares himself king, for example, will have raised himself to a high position and now will enjoy the perks of said position
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:47 PM
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Now you're getting into more advanced techniques which I didn't want to dig too deep into. This was the basics. But the key, as Sun Tzu said, "Know your enemy" You have to know your market in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:30 PM
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Again the United state constitution is not the same as Human Rights but I could as well talk to a wall at this poin The constitution protects inalienable rights, that are natural and every human is born with. So yes they're human rights. You need to be able to insult people, use Swastikas and be able to deny the holocaust……that’s really something. You need to be able to, yes BUT I LIKE THAT YOU ADMIT, THAT THE US DOESNT HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH EITHER, SEE THE BOOKBANNIGS FOR EXAMPLE. So when do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:27 PM

Go on... (Scribbles in notepad)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:12 PM

Yes if a woman wants to repel a RP man she can get fat, dye her hair blue, and attend "Down with men" rallies. But she better make sure she's fat and not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:11 PM
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Well your situations a little different. You're trying to make sure he's Red Pilled enough, this was moreso to hide that fact from a woman who Red Pill may be unpopular. So you're screening differently and will disqualify on different criteria. You're one if the few women I've seen on this sub with this position btw
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:10 PM
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Every man wants high gullibility. That's a given. This advice was for a situation that let's say there's a hot feminist that is opposed to sleeping with a Red Pill guy. Not all of them are, some will fuck a RP guy or even blatant misogynist anyway, but in the event you're trying to fuck a hot feminist and you suspect she won't go for it and is vetting you, this can be applied.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:06 PM

(Scribbles in notepad) So you're saying I shouldn't admit to going to the gym daily then? What would you say is the cutoff for it not being a red flag? 3 times a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:53 PM

All men do ultimately at a macro zoomed out level. It's deep philosophy from over 1000 years ago not just something I made up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:51 PM

She's not. It just goes against what some women claim that they'll never sleep with a Red Pill guy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:49 PM

This post was a result of women on here saying they can sniff out a Red Pill man and would never sleep with one. I'm merely saying it's not true
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:46 PM

Nope. That's how you throw someone off if they're vetting. It's an example, a basic one at that. There's much more effective techniques but I didn't go into them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:45 PM
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All dating is manipulation. I'm no more a "manipulator" than anyone else Also .. (Scribbles in notepad) The questions themselves provide insight and answers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:43 PM
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The point is the guy doesn't bring it up. It's fight club you just don't talk about it. You still do all the things TRP pushes (because they work) but your intentions aren't known. Not every guy who works out and has a good job etc knows about TRP. Some guys just naturally do these things. So you do all these things "because sex" but you never let it be known you're doing it because sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:18 AM

You know there's philosophies that state everything a man does ultimately stems from a desire for sex, whether subconsciously or consciously. Guy gets up and brushes his teeth in the morning why? Because if his teeth look bad women won't like it and he won't get sex. Guy goes to work. Why? Because he has to have a place to live, clothes, food, car, etc so he can have his shit together so he can have sex. Guy took out the trash. Why? Has to keep a clean environment at home etc etc etc because sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:16 AM
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Lol yeah. It's a shame this comment won't be viewed much tho. I wanted her response to my question I bolded and I didn't get one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:09 AM

Running them off how? These tactics are to be employed in a specific scenario where a Red Pill Man takes interest in a girl but he suspects she would disqualify him potentially. Let's say she's a hard core feminist and hates Andrew Tate for example.... But... She's got a really nice ass. So we have a situation that is at odds. On one hand her personality and ideology is opposed to said man, so it has no future, but on the other hand she's hot 🔥 and has a really nice ass. So said man wants to acq…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:05 AM

No it's because you all don't tell the truth. That's why we have to "watch what they do, not what they say" because the information from women was so bad. But it's ok, now we have a playbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 04:02 AM

Thank you. And yes I agree. This stuff is for hooking up or more short term obviously. To get past feminists who try to filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:39 AM

If it works it works. None of us tell the whole truth ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:57 AM

Well my qualifier was men who properly applied Red Pill, in which case they are hitting the gym and maximizeming LMS These tactics are very effective. But mainly only need to be applied when trying to get sexual access to feminists and progressive women. Mainly feminists I would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:56 AM

These tactics work. And they're very effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:52 AM

But my point stands, we have the formula/playbook, and it works. These tactics, properly applied, work... Do you concede that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:50 AM

That's true. But it depends on a number of factors. A man can do a cost benefit analysis to analyze the quality of pussy to be acquired, amount of waiting time, etc to determine if it's worth his while. So yeah, if you hold off until marriage or years that will work. But a guy may decide that sexual access to a specific female is worth the month or 2 necessary to play the game. Plus, he could be seeing other women during that time as well. Unless you're living with him or spending every day toge…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:21 AM

Yeah but they'll still give it up because they won't know. If all women, en mass, decided no more pussy until marriage, men would have to play by those rules . But that's not the reality, they want their sexual freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:06 AM
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She ain't gonna have access to my phone lol. That's a power play and a man doing that loses credibility and dries up the pussy. So she would never be on my phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:58 AM
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How do you feel about Red Pill men in general? Would you date one?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:42 AM
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Andrew Tate is not a rapist. He's just a man with a pending charge. If tomorrow he was officially declared a rapist, what he says would still be true, even if he did a horrible action. Einsteins theory of relativity wouldn't lose credibility if we somehow found out Einstein was a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:30 AM
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Cops I agree with, fuck em all ACAB Badass military grunts? Women love em. They love men with potential for violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:28 AM
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Don’t you feel that sex better when you’re fully uninhibited, or is that not universal??? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:11 AM
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(Scribbles in notepad) Keep em coming I'm getting some good info here to add to the playbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:08 AM

No Oh, then it's irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:06 AM

Are you asking because you're interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:05 AM
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Know your market
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:03 AM
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Nope. I turn them on and make them squirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:01 AM
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How do you feel about Red Pill generally?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:55 AM
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(Scribbles in notepad)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:54 AM
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That's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:48 AM
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I really need you to link me this Human Rights you are talking about….. The United States Constitution. Accept no substitutes. Anything else is only second best So you think people should be allowed to insult others, no matter what? Of course. Do you know that reddit might ban you for insults? Does that mean, that reddit violates human rights Reddit is not a government with a monopoly on violence. They're a private app, and they can do as they like. Free speech means "government can't punish/jai…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:45 AM
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Well yes. The point is to do the correct things that Red Pill teaches (because it works), but not necessarily to broadcast the fact that you're Red Pill. Basically it's like fight club. You do it all, but you just don't speak on it specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:29 AM
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You said it "takes a while for them to figure out" so I assume by then you've already taxed that ass for days
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:20 AM
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You mean non fiction, physics books
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:19 AM
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Not if he's good. If he's good enough he'll respond properly and pass but you'll still never know. There's some advanced techniques that are very effective, but I won't list them. I just gave bare bones examples
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:19 AM
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No but she'll cheat on him with the Red Pill misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:09 AM
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But they won't listen if he's hot and they vibe. Women go off vibez.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:07 AM
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I don't care about your European BS. We have real human rights in this country. The right to free speech (which you don't have, you can be jailed for calling the police a slur, you have hate speech laws, Nazi ideology is banned and censored). Here we respect free speech, so although for example I don't agree with Nazis, their RIGHT to spew their hatred and ideology is more important than my or anyone else's life. Your government has set a precedent that if it disapproves of something it can pass…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:06 AM
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Nope. I'm showing them that what they say is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:58 PM
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I'm proving their hypocrisy. And showing them that they're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:55 PM
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I didn't say that. I said the reason I give while true just don't tell the whole story, that it helps with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:52 PM
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Women love to be owned by a high value man that they're attracted to and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:50 PM
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Exactly. I agree. I'm speaking to what the women on here say. Of course we know the rules are different if she finds you hot. If she finds you hot you can approach her in the gym and she would go along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:49 PM

I stand for human rights. ✊ We stand in solidarity against oppression and human rights violations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:48 PM
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Yes, then she would have herself a blue-pilled femboy who she's not attracted to and doesn't find masculine and hot, unless she's an exception to the rule. But for most women, the criteria you listed would not make them wet
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:47 PM
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No. I would take care of her. But the type of woman that you're talking about is a literal unicorn. For a unicorn yes I would pay her way. But there are no unicorns like that, so in America no. Even a submissive woman in America I would expect to pay half because they've still been touched by feminism. The type of woman I would pay everything for would have to be literally: Young, beautiful, virgin, slut only for me, submissive, traditional, good hearted, and many other qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:44 PM
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Well no point arguing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:41 PM
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Well yeah Red Pill is ultimately just information. You can use it to whatever end you want. But I made this post because women on this sub shit on Red Pill and say they would never sleep with one, when I'm sure many of them already have
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:40 PM
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No. Red Pill men will not do those, because they're unattractive to women. Red Pill men must still operate as Red Pill men, but the motivations for theyr actions (lift weights up and put it down because sex) must be hidden and framed as "natural" and not something methodically planned out. The only actual lying will come in the form of opinions such as if someone asks about Andrew Tate or Red Pill itself. It's fight club. You don't talk about it. But the actions : looks, money, status, holding f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:39 PM
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Well you're speaking like a woman being realistic. Women on here get mad at a man asking a woman he doesn't know out because he "knows nothing about her, so he must want sex, because all he knows is what she looks like." When the reality is of course he wants sex, whether he knows her or doesn't, men ask women out and try to get with them for sex. But women on here seem delusional to nature
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:35 PM
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I don't have Tate as an idol. I live my own life and it's completely different from Tate. However I do agree with much of what I've heard Tate say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:33 PM
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The men and women may or may not be compatible based on the individuals. Red Pill Men and Red Pill Women operate on the same basic information, so they would be in agreement about male and female nature as a starting point. From there it would be up to individuals and what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:31 PM

Innocent until proven guilty. I support due process and human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:30 PM
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Yes exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:29 PM
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But you had sex, did you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:28 PM
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No not their sexuality. But women lie and don't tell the truth to look better. Men are open: we like young, submissive, not fat, attractive women with low n or virgins who are only sluts for us. We are open. Women say things like liking sensitive guys or nice guys but will fuck an attractive misogynist. So men have been taking notes: be hot, don't be not hot, have money, have your shit together, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:26 PM
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That's true. But they don't like the motivations. So a guy who has his shit together: good. Guy who has his shit together because sex: bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:24 PM
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But his actions don't contradict. In my fitness example above, Red Pill men aren't the only men that work out and lift. He merely has to not speak the whole truth ("because sex" ). A man having a good job doesn't mean he's Red Pilled. He just has to not speak the whole truth ("because sex"). Etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:23 PM
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Then take it up with the textbooks and the laws of thermodynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:21 PM
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I got em lining up. And not just the skanks either ... Well, some are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:21 PM
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The „technique“ a soldier need the most is obedience and submission…… Again you're speaking on things you know nothing about. I was US Army. In the US military you are taught morals and about the laws and rules of warfare. Not only do you not have to follow an illegal or immoral order, you have a duty to refuse it. It's why the Nazis defense of following orders didn't work. So please tell me more about a lifestyle you know nothing about because you're embarrassing yourself with each post. Imagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:18 PM
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But, you are cool with anything fake. That’s the essence of your original post, you being the fake person. Not fit a relationship that's serious or long term. My post was more about getting sexual access. The criteria for short or long term will be different. You also imply that you are ok with her being fake as long as you never find out. I wouldn't be ok with it. But if you never know and gert everything you want then you'll never know. But in the green card example it's assumed to be fake. Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:12 PM
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You're lumping Red Pill men into only using one strategy or having one goal. Red Pill is information, but it doesn't tell men to only have casual sex or whatever. It tells him how to maximize attractiveness to women. He can use that information for whatever he wants (he could do nothing, he could use to ti become a fuckboi, to get an LTR, marriage, etc). So no, you can't sniff them out because they don't operate the same. The only thing that is the same is the information
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:09 PM
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No I've always had social skills. My point is not telling the whole truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:06 PM
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"Eventually" being the key term there. By then he's had sex. Doesn't matter had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:06 PM
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Math and physics. If you don't like it take it up with Newton and Einstein
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:05 PM
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Not lie. Just not tell the whole truth. See my fitness example in the post. Those aren't lies, just not telling the whole truth (which most ppl don't tell the whole truth)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:04 PM
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Ahhhh .... So being too good can work against us you're saying? (Scribbles in notepad) So a man should deliberately still be good, but not too good... Ahhh. I got you. 🤔 👍 (Scribbles in notepad)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:03 PM
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Not all of it is lying. A lot of it is just not telling the whole truth. Like my fitness example. I do it for health and the things I stated. But I also "move weight up and down for sexual access". Women hate the motivations for some reason..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 11:02 PM
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But women for some reason hate when men do things "to get sexual access" they even hate the term sexual access. So a guy could have all his shit together and a woman would love it and consider him high value. But anither guy could have had to plan all this shit out (get in shape, get good job, etc) with sex being a motivation in the back of his mind. But women are turned off by a guy who does these things "to get sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:59 PM
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Women do have our playbook yes because we have openly revealed what we like: Don't be fat, be agreeable, be feminine, etc.. you all absolutely have our playbook. The only difference is men had to take notes in order to get the female playbook because you all refused to give it to us (and still deny it to this day)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:57 PM
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He'll have to make that determination by doing a cost benefit analysis (quality of potential pussy, time expected to wait, etc). More math formulas that women hate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:55 PM
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I don't use anyone. If I have sex with someone it's for mutual pleasure, women enjoy sex too do they not? All I'm saying is I don't let my true beliefs on certain socially unacceptable topics be known, and that I do certain things that women like (working out) without telling them that I do then because women like them. They're still getting a guy with the qualities they like, like fitness for example. I just won't tell them that part of the reason I work out is because sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:54 PM
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No I'm not cool with anything fake. And I'm not into leading with my wallet. You gave a hypothetical of a woman faking it but where the man ultimately wouldn't know. Since he wouldn't know, ignorance is bliss I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:52 PM
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It's not just to get sex you're right. But that plays a part. But for a man to identify things and write them out as a formula: get in shape, make good money, etc is viewed as goalsetting and good. But a man doing it also with the thought if getting laid is viewed as bad and not being his true self. Which I argue no one is their true self. We all do things for a variety of reasons, but sex being important to men, plays into his reasoning. But women for some reason don't like this as they want hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:50 PM
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Them orgasming and squirting tells me they want me. If you can get a chick off with good sex you can be an open mysoginist and she won't care. These techniques are to get past her vetting process and get sexual access. From there the man better be good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:47 PM
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I'm a warrior and a soldier. You know nothing about the things I've done and there's no point speaking on them. But a soldier/warrior that wants to be effective on the battlefield has to master certain techniques. He has to be the total package of mind , body and technique. Technique is developed through constant practice, so that for example, when you're reloading your rifle in the heat of battle it's a smooth process and you don't fumble around or miss the magazine well, because adrenaline wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:44 PM
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Haha Well we do have a formula that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:31 PM
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They do want to. And once the sex is had they're sprung. At that point I can just reveal my true opinions, but women squirting and having multiple orgasms will look past that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:29 PM
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Yes. But for some reason they care about the why. Guy did it so he can be successful: good. Guy did it to be successful so he can have sex: bad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:28 PM
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You're right it is! And that's a good point. But for some reason women care about the why. The man who has his shit altogether is viewed as high value and normal. But the man who has his shit altogether because he planned it out and because "he wants sex" is viewed as not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:26 PM
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That's true. And you don't talk about it. But here we talk about it. The motivations may be "to have sex" but no one will ever know
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:24 PM
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Someone getting up at what 4.00 am, to go to the gym every day, will look vain, no matter how you put it. Sure, there are „higher levels of vain“ than that. But that doesn’t change that this still is vain. Well it still gets the job done. The army installs a lot of good habits……sure, if you say so. Getting things hammered into you by countless repetitions for the sake of it Well I'm a warrior. Warriors have to do repetitive things to perfect their mind, body, and techniques because they're charg…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:22 PM
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LOL translation: "my life revolves around doing what women want" Spending an hour a day to stay fit and healthy is not revolving my life around them. I already stated the examples I gave are true such as being healthy etc. You just don't let on that you also do it because you get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:16 PM
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We have the formula. The formula works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:13 PM
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We don't have numbers for that obviously. But many Red Pill men are successful. Some women don't even care if she likes the guy enough. Some women will fuck a hot mysoginistic if she likes him enough. This strategy was for women who are adamant about not sleeping with Red Pill men. It's a technique. A tool in the tool bag that a man can decide to deploy or not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:12 PM
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But in my comment I said some men are Red Pilled and don't apply it. And some do apply it. So you're talking about the ones who properly apply it I assume?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:04 PM
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No, he will strategically play the game. He knows your vetting tactics and everything to say to you. He's the "perfect guy" in all regards. But his motivations are never known. (Cue maniacal laugh)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:02 PM
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Tate is an intelligent man in my opinion, with many points I agree with. His actions may or may not be good, idk. But Tate is out there spitting truths and I respect him for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:59 PM
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That's true. Said woman could lie and pretend to be everything that I want, but she would have to fool me by treating me a certain way and embracing that role. And if it's a lie, at that point, does it matter? She's submitting to me. Women are different tho. I put in the work to be what women want and have these qualities, but they care about the why. They don't like a guy who did it to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:58 PM
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It's all relative. To someone who doesn't work out at all it seems like a lot sure, but to someone doing steroids and working out 3 hours a day then it's nothing. I work out. I have hobbies. I make money. I have friends. And I have women that I'm involved with (but I'm single). I don't discuss Red Pill (fight club) with anyone except on this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:56 PM
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Frame it as what ever you want, still nobody will believe in „health reasons“ for it. The point is not to look vain and like you only care about fitness because you want sex. Are you telling me any guy who works out is a bad thing? It's a measly hour a day. Guys who are consumed by it are working out twice a day, or 3 hours a day and taking steroids. 1 hour a day is reasonable If you do it just because the army hammered it into you, that’s just sad. The Army instills a lot of good habits. So you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:50 PM
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Are like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:45 PM
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The point of that was that Red Pill pushes working out because it will help men get sex. So the point was to work out so you can get sex, but not to let it know that's the reason for why you do it. If your whole life revolves around having a perfect six pack at all times this may appear vain. So you work out (still to get sex) but in a way that is "normal" and healthy and not even to do with getting sex (which it at least partially is). You conceal the intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:45 PM
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Of course. We go around their vetting though (or we can) because we have their playbook figured out.. I was speaking as to vetting as far as vetting her views on this stuff in general (Red Pill, feminism, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:42 PM
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We have the formulas. We have you women figured out. I don't make the rules just play by them. And yes, math and physics
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:41 PM
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He would praise you for them while admiring your ambition and tell you your goals are "sexy" and anything else you wanna hear. He would be nodding along as you talk about your education and goals while thinking of your ass and wondering if you like anal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:40 PM
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It's really not that much effort honestly. Maybe just find a girl who likes red pills guys? Yes, for long term of course. I would only consider women who would be labelled negatively by other women (submissive, old school, etc). I'm saying a man can sleep with / pump and dump feminists while searching for said girl
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:38 PM
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I would argue no one displays their true selves anyway. There's levels to it. I'm just saying that we are aware of certain things that we can't talk about. We are on guard just as women are on guard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:36 PM
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Yeah but you can't always tell. I don't want to give out too many personal examples, but you wouldn't be able to detect me. Not every Red Pill guy is a loser who has no friends and is unsuccessful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:34 PM
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No. Supporting Andrew Tate is not socially acceptable or agreeing with his views. As I said, if his actions are proven I will condemn them (while still agreeing with his views)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:32 PM

I'm neither of those things. I just don't tell the whole truth, but nobody does. And I lie only when necessary, such as in the Andrew Tate example, because society goes on witch hunts and labels men with certain views as certain things, as you're doing. So yes, I lie and don't tell the whole truth sometimes, same as everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:31 PM
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First things first, nobody will believe, that you are sacrificing sleep to be in the gym at 5:00 am every day, for at least a hour, for health reasons. That’s just ridiculous. I personally can frame it as a habit I learned in the Army, as I was a grunt for 12 years and we do fitness training early in the morning. I didn't mention this because I wanted the example to apply to more men. And I don't think going to the gym for an hour a day is so extreme in and of itself anyway. Second, so you admit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:29 PM
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I don't think that applies . I'm not staying Red Pill men are a certain way. Red Pill is nothing but information. Many men are Red Pilled but don't put the theory/information into practice. I'm saying a man that is Red Pilled and applies said information to his advantage can remain undetectable if he's good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:23 PM
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Not all of you are liars. Some women I don't think even truly understand their own nature. Men are much more likely to have broken this down using math and the laws of physics. Women will think she acts a certain way because of the position of the moon and stars. We men just know better now and have your sex figured out because math
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:21 PM
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Well I agree. If I was actually serious with a woman my personality and true beliefs would be more accurately displayed. But for me to be serious and get to that level I would have been vetting her along the way. What I'm saying is men date for a variety of reasons. Maybe he wants consistent sexual access. Maybe he wants to pump and dump. Maybe he's attracted but doesn't see a future or long term with her. My point is women on this sub say they can sniff these men out and I don't think so. Not i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:19 PM
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Well some things arent exactly lying, like my fitness example, it's just not telling the whole truth. But the Andrew Tate thing yes that's lying out of necessity due to certain things not being socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:16 PM
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So would you date a Red Pilled Man if you knew he was Red Pilled, but you clicked with him and he treated you well?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:15 PM
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My rule is to never talk about your dating strategy or politics or religion or economic views in public. Well I agree. Utilize your strategies but never let on that you are strategizing to begin with. I think normal women are not looking out for these things anyhow unless they have been hurt in the past. But if they are, as some women on this sub claim to be, we can hide it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:14 PM
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A Red Pill man is one who knows the true nature of women. He may or may not idolize sex. He may or may not even apply Red Pill. My point was that a man can apply Red Pill to his advantage (by maximizing Looks, Money, Status) in order to acquire sexual access. Women don't like this rigid formula driven planning with goals of "sexual access" they don't even like the term "sexual access." But my point was that a man who has become high value (on the superficial criteria that women value) and knows …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:11 PM
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No. I gave the most basic of techniques. There are advanced techniques to counter said advanced vetting processes. They're all accounted for. It's cat and mouse. Women may eventually counter the current advanced techniques with more advanced vetting processes, but then we will adapt even more advanced techniques. But in the mean time, the man will have had sex. And as you know: "Doesn't matter, had sex" so even if she eventually finds out. It's too late
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:06 PM
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Well there you go lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:59 PM
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Women aren't equipped with hand grenades tho
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:05 PM
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Then the human race would die out firstly .... Secondly, men would not allow this, because self preservation, and every living thing wanting to remain alive. Men would rather others suffer than to go against their own self interests. So we have to deal in reality. And the reality is the following: Men are the deadliest creatures that we know of that exist and have ever existed in the universe (Some) men hunt and prey on women Men are able to successfully hunt and prey on women in the natural wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:37 AM
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Well I'm a highly trained warrior. So I'm speaking from experience in that I know how dangerous I am. But it's a good thing that I haven't aligned myself with the forces of evil. But the point still stands, men are the deadliest animal on the planet? If you can name a deadlier species I'm all ears ..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:20 AM
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No. Of course not. That's why I said be armed and accept that we won't stop gun violence, because people will have guns We accept that there will always be gun violence because we will always have guns. So looking for a "solution" to stop it is pointless because we would have to get rid of all guns, which even if we could do, we shouldn't do Gun violence is the price of freedom. The price for having our human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:56 PM
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My solution to gun violence is carry a gun so you can defend yourself and accept that there's always gonna be gun violence. Even if we could end all gun violence by taking away all the guns we still shouldn't do it. Because achieving a positive outcome by violating human rights is not acceptable. So arm yourself, and stop looking for a "solution", that's the solution. My solution to police violence is defund them so there's less of them and end qualified immunity and prosecutorial discretion whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:42 PM
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No point being free if you are dead No point being alive if you're not free I feel quite free thanks, Well you're not, but ignorance is bliss I guess I feel quite safe with my gun on my hip. And if anyone here in the US doesn't like it, they can move over to England or Germany or any of the non free western countries. America will never give up our guns. Actually, it's an exciting time for freedom here! Ever since the Supreme Court Bruen decision last year, gun laws across the country are finall…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:29 PM
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They're very, very, very effective btw. Extremely effective. You have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:18 PM
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We value freedom more than safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:01 PM
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You live in a country that restricts your right to defend your life. I've already explained, cops are not responsible for keeping anyone safe (at the point of the crime), their only job is to enforce the law (after the crime). My solution is carry guns to protect yourself. And no I'm not part of the problem. I have every right to take my own life and safety into my own hands and not rely on some other men who may or may not be there, and who don't even have a responsibility to protect me. I'm re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:49 PM
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Nobody messes with Big Daddy Government
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:16 PM
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No I'm a realist. I've lived and breathed violence my entire adult life. I know exactly the reality of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:07 PM
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Just wanted to say you used peafowl, peacock, and peahen... Nice. I noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:53 PM
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Firstly: sure it is. Secondly: it's the reality of the world. And finally: Nobody messes with Daddy Government
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:22 PM
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Well let me make sure you understand my point. My point isn't "you can water your grass because violence (against women)" None of that was applied to women. It was applied to other men. So "you can water your grass because you live in a safe and secure society where men are protecting you and keeping other men (barbarians) at the gates"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:29 PM
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You're speaking in a world without men correct? Yes, they would be ok. There would be growing pains but they would survive. But in a world with men (that we live in) they need men, if only to protect them from other men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:57 PM
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Some ppl don't. They're so far removed they even think meat appears in packages on the grocery store shelf without killing being involved. And not that it's a thing so much... But that it's the basis for everything You can go to the store: because violence You can water your grass: because violence Etc.... Oh and btw: Nobody messes with Daddy Government because Daddy Government is men with guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:54 PM
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Check out the ACAB sub. It's very bad over here. I'm not saying it wouldn't. We can condemn an organization or a practice and demand change even without alternatives fully fleshed out. They won't even have the conversation . It's not about "keeping order at all costs" because North Korea keeps order with their tyrannical practices . It's about securing the rights and liberties of the individual person first and foremost, that is what's best for society. Once that's done you can figure out how to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:25 PM
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Yes I agree with this take.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:20 PM
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If she's in the US then she's part of the problem. She "keeps the peace" but she ultimately is in an organization with minimal to no oversight and accountability, that has become so so corrupt and tramples upon the very freedoms that her oath swore to uphold. Your niece may not be a bad personally, but she's a part of a bad organization and terrorist group. The concept of policing is not something I disagree with. The practice is. There's a saying: "All Cops Are Bastards..... Even your dad."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:11 PM
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Well that's true. In a world with men (that we live in) women are in need of men because of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:46 PM
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I mean the world isn't fair. I'm just speaking about the reality .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:46 PM
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ACAB the police are the enemy at this point. The theory of Daddy Government is what I posted about. But the police at this point are terrorists and an occupying Army.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:44 PM
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I also wanted to address the topic not just to say women are in need of men, but to make the statement everything in this world is backed by violence. Because I think ppl forget that or are too far removed being in this "civilization" that they forget it or don't think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:22 AM
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Yeah but I tried to explain it in detail like in my post and she still was denying it. And she seemed like what I was saying was just a foreign concept. It could have been just stubbornness, but it got me thinking that maybe we are so privileged in this safe western society that ppl don't even realize why barbarians haven't come in yet
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:14 AM
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No they're not. All men don't commit violence against women. But women have a significant amount of violence committed against them by men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:11 AM
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Because I was in a couple conversations recently and women said they didn't need men for anything. It reminded me of the privilege of being so far removed because men (Daddy Government, military) have made their lives so secure that they completely forget that men are protecting them with violence every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:10 AM
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That's it. If you agree you agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:07 AM
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Ok, women need men .....more than men need women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:05 AM
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Holy shit don't give them any ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:04 AM
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Daddy Government protects women from bad men. Women need Daddy Government. Daddy Government is men with guns. Therefore women need men..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:00 AM
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Nobody messes with Daddy Government.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:56 AM
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It means women need men more than men need women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:54 AM
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Yeah I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:48 AM
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Ahhh I forgot about that. Yes that was an awesome experiment and provided good insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:47 AM
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No. I didn't make that claim. I merely claimed women need men (as a whole) to survive more than men need women to survive. Women are preyed on by men, men are not preyed on by women . Daddy Government is men with guns and violence. Daddy Government protects women from bad men. Therefore women need men to exist and not be enslaved. Edit: oh and no one messes with Daddy Government
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:34 AM
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Guns are a great equalizer that's a great thing about them. But collectively if you equip the entire world of men and the entire world of women with the same firepower men will win. Guns allow a smaller weaker adversary to take on a bigger stronger adversary, but warfare is not a single isolated incident . Fitness and conditioning, strength, etc are all hugely important in modern warfare. Please see my other comment in this thread for more details.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:32 AM
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No I'm not. Are you? A Great Dane is ultimately a beast that can be trained (by men). If we wanted to exterminate every last great Dane tomorrow we could do so. They submit to the will of men. A man is more dangerous than a lion, tiger, etc. No man is going to fight a great Dane one on one butt naked in a caged death match. That's not how men fight. We create things, like guns, that can neutralize threats bigger and stronger in the blink of an eye. We were doing this back with wooley mammoths wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:28 AM
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Yup have a good one..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:21 AM
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But you're forgetting the father in that scenario. Which is as fucked up as saying men allow women to have rights. Don't get me wrong, men's rights are secured by other men as well (Daddy Government, military) but it's more beneficial and necessary for women, as they are a commodity and resource that men hunt in and of themselves. It's fucked up, but it's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:21 AM
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Infighting generally occurs when an organization gets too big and powerful. Either a sub commander gets too big for his britches and wants to be too dog (for example: Los Zetas drug cartel going to war with the Gulf Cartel) or when there's a serious ideological split that can't be rectified without war (Sunni / Shia divide for example). It almost never happens when a group is small and weak in numbers . They don't have the luxury of infighting. After they're 1000 men strong, and they have 3000 f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:17 AM
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There would be far less violence without men yes. A lot of the dirty jobs would not get done tho. But the physical threats of violence would be significantly reduced. But, that's not the world. The world has (violent) men. And because it does, women are dependent upon (good violent) men to even exist in a state of freedom and security.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:12 AM
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Well yes we compliment each other of course. And I did state that women don't need an individual man but they absolutely need men (if only because of other men)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:06 AM
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It depends. We would need to flesh out this hypothetical with far more details. But my point is men prey on women, women don't generally prey on men. Men (in general) won't allow women to just be and completely disassociate themselves from men. In this hypothetical scenario, those 10 men will come a knocking one way or another (whether through wooing, negotiating, and finally force). If those men wanted to completely disassociate from the women they would let it be and not press the issue or com…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:04 AM
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The main point I wanted to make was that the modern woman who lives under the illusion of security in the West and thinks "I don't need a man" is incorrect. Many men protect her and she needs them. They forget that Daddy Government is ultimately a bunch of men with guns and violence behind them. The laws on a piece of paper mean nothing without violent men with guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:57 AM
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IF they're hostile. Assuming they weren't hostile and were peace loving nature lovers women wouldn't hunt them to acquire male concubines tho. Men would hunt women who wanted to be left alone, that's the difference. Men will start shit, and attack offensively. Women, even if they attacked first, would only do so out of defense. And yes I agree. Men will try to form a collective and actually build families and all that. But if in this hypothetical scenario, the last 10 men and last 10 women on ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:55 AM
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It equalizes you're right. And that's one if the beautiful things about firearms, they can give someone smaller and weaker the ability to kill someone bigger and stronger. But it doesn't fully equalize if both are equipped. The top warriors in the world are still men. Soldiering is more than standing somewhere pulling a trigger while your enemy stands still. Fitness and athleticism matter for Soldiering. If you took all the men on earth and putted them against all the women on earth in a battle …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:49 AM
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That's the world we live in. I never said men weren't the issue . They're absolutely the threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:45 AM
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Correct. But that's the world we live in. And because we live in a world with men, women need men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:43 AM
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They do create the need (as a whole). Women are in need of men because of men. In a world without men women wouldn't need men..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:41 AM
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The good men didn't create the need. They're benevolent. My point is there's good and evil men and women in this world. But men aren't hunted by evil women. Women are hunted by evil men. And it's not about useful. Women exist and have rights and are secured because men allow it and protect them (by holding the barbarians at the gates). Women are ultimately at the mercy of men (as a whole). They owe their safety and security to men . My point is that the modern western feminist woman is so far re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:37 AM
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Women can put up a fight, but my point is women don't hunt men. Men do hunt women.. men are natural predators of women. So women are at the mercy of men. Those 5 men refusing to participate are the good men. If all men collectively turned evil women would be screwed. Women exist and have rights because men allow it. Women are protected by good men from evil men. Therefore, they're in need of men for survival, more than men are in need of survival. The group example those 10 men would be left alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:33 AM
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Yes. Women exist and are secured from violence because some good and benevolent men (civilized society, Daddy Government) decided to secure them and give them rights, and continue to do so to this day. But ultimately, they're at the mercy of men. If all men turned evil overnight and decided to enslave and conquer all women they could do it. They're in need of good men (Daddy Government, non evil men, military, etc). They exist unenslaved and with rights because men protect them and allow them to
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:28 AM
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So women need men to protect them from other men, Yes. The ones who would harm them (which is the world we live in). Women forget this because they've grown up in a civilized society where men are protecting them behind the scenes (military). It's so far removed they forget that they NEED Men to secure their very existence from other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:23 AM
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No, they would suffer from other predatory men. My argument wasn't that women need men in a world without men but that men are natural predators of women, and they are intelligent, cunning, and lethal (the deadliest thing on earth). Lions? Tigers? Bears? Sharks? These are nothing compared to violent armed strategic men who wish to hunt women and enslave them. So in a world with men (the world we live in) women NEED Men to protect them (from other men)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:18 AM
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No. I served as a grunt for over 12 years and have multiple combat tours. I'm speaking from experience, not theory. "Pressing a button" doesn't win a war. Sure you can nuke the entire world, but what's the point? You can't rule over a pile of ashes or live on any of the land you just vaporized. Wars are fought for a purpose: to take and hold land, to take resources, etc. Not just for the sake of killing everything. So my point is you need boots on the ground ultimately. Why do you think we had t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:57 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:51 AM
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Those men will personally survive whether their offspring die or not. I'm saying individual men don't need women as a class to survive as much as individual women need men as a class to survive. Why do you consider protection more important than feeding babies? Because without protection your life is immediately forfeit. Without your child being fed or cared for you (women) will still live. The point is women are dependent on men more (for their very existence) than men are of women... Not that …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:50 AM
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That's a separate argument. But men are extremely deadly, cunning and ruthless natural predators of women. Men are the most dangerous thing on this earth. And they prey on and hunt women. Other men protect women from these men. So in the world we live in (where men exist) women absolutely need men (as a class) in order to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:47 AM
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Idk if you read my post. My point is women can't exist without men protecting them, because they have extremely deadly and dangerous natural predators in this world (other men). Women don't protect men from immediate life ending violence. Men do protect women from that. Therefore women NEED Men or they would be doomed to other men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:45 AM
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Everyone needs society. We are creatures where that is super important, it’s all about working together as a group. We can’t do much on our own at all. Women need it more. A tribe of men can wander off naked into some unclaimed desert somewhere and no one will care about them. A tribe of naked, young, attractive women wander off naked and alone into the desert somewhere and eventually, someone will come a knocking and wanting them. They are a resource men have fought wars over and plundered thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:42 AM
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Weapons are nothing without warriors to wield them. No war in the history of our planet has ever been fought and won strictly with weapons or technology. You ALWAYS have warriors wielding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:35 AM
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For sure men definitely benefit. And I know women play an important role. I'm talking about survival. Without men, women would be doomed to whoever wanted to take them by force. Even without collapse, the society we live in protecting (both) men and women is backed by violent men (military). We can survive without them, they can't survive without us (because of other men).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:33 AM
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Did you read the post? My point was womens very survival and rights to exist at all depend largely on men protecting them from being plundered by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:21 AM
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Firstly, that depends on how highly trained and armed he is. But barring outliers, probably not. But that's entirely my point. Without Daddy Government (other armed men) barbarians could come to your husband and demand you. Barbarians aren't going to come demand him, because they want captive women. So if they came demanding his house, he could give it to them if he didn't want to fight. He could surrender his property and leave his land and live. But if they came to you, they wouldn't demand yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:19 AM
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My point is that women NEED Men to survive, and men have provided that safety and stability (men as a class, not individuals), but now they're so comfortable that they forget that they need men in the first place and think they're magically safe. They don't put 2 and 2 together and realize that they're being protected still, just by men collectively. And yes men benefit from a safe society but not as much as women. We are more violent and dangerous, and men don't want to kidnap other men to rape…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:13 AM
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I'm telling you those vetting tactics used to work but we are on to them. Red Pill is like fight club now and we don't talk about it and we know women are on guard for it. It's constant cat and mouse. We started Red Pill, women started sniffing it out now we've adapted to be undetectable, I'm sure in the future women will counter these new strategies, then we will adapt again. Constant cat and mouse psychological warfare. But.... During that time, men will have had sex and pumped and dumped, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:40 AM
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I'm talking about the specifics of hiding Red Pill. What I'm saying is women think they can "sniff out" a man who's Red Pilled and I'm telling you that's not true anymore. We know how you vet and what to say and not to say. There's literally a step by step guide on not letting on that you're Red Pilled That was what I was referring to as very effective. But... Yes, Red Pill itself is also very effective, of course that's a given
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:35 AM
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I found them, but I'll send you a PM if that's cool, only with the stipulation you don't post this stuff. I've changed my mind about doing a post on it, I don't want these effective techniques getting to mainstream. It's cat and mouse, they'll adapt, the we will have to adapt again. As of now these work very well so I'd like to keep it that way. If you agree I'll send you a PM now
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:53 AM
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I'm digging them up now dude. Oh and they're very, very effective btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:45 AM
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I know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:41 AM
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She won't ever know, that's the beauty. A guy could be completely and utterly Red Pilled and the best radar wouldn't detect him if he implements these properly. Before you know it, she's slept with a "Red Pill misogynist"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:39 AM
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Yeah I would have to dig up the pages/threads and find them but I wasn't gonna bother if you weren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:37 AM
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They are. These are newer techniques actually and I was thinking of doing a post about them matter fact. I would say they've only been around for about 2 months, and I've never seen them discussed here, so idk how widespread they are yet. There's techniques to hide your Red Pill ideology as a whole, but then also if you fail that a little bit and she starts having suspicions there's techniques to actually throw her off your trail completely. They're very effective. I can send you a link to see t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:34 AM

Definitely looksmaxx and moneymaxx. That'll help you in everything, your health, your quality of life, and with women, so you should do that regardless. Maybe at 27 I can kind of restart. Would it be weird to try to hang out with 21 & 22 year old women at that age? You can hang out with whoever and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I'm in my 30's and I have friends of varying ages, some much younger and some much older and everything in between. But just don't fixate on specifics and live you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:23 AM

No you should be ok. I looked at your pics. You have some size on you, so you have some muscle mass. You look older cuz of the beard, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I rock a beard too. If you cut some more weight your face will slim out too and look better. As I said, I know it's a struggle, but never stop improving.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:06 AM

I don't know too much about autism bro so I can't speak on it. But your looks are fading at 24? Lol. You haven't even peaked yet. Men peak in their late 20's to early 30's (physically). Keep lifting. Keep losing weight. It is slow I know. But track your progress and keep it up. You have to live life anyway right? So 2 years from now you'll still be here anyway, so you can have put in the work and look super fit, or you can wish you did, because either way the world keeps turning. Stack your mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:54 AM
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They're very, very effective btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:48 AM

Ok you've identified some weaknesses. What are you doing about it? Do you have a plan? You mentioned you're gonna be making better money in a few years.... Are you going to the gym and getting your health and fitness in order? It's an uphill battle bro I know, but it's not hopeless if you put in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:45 AM
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My kinda woman right here!! 🔥
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:42 AM
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I'm happy for you. But that message was to you just as much as it was for our assumed hypothetical reading audience so that they know that we know women are looking and vetting and we know exactly how to hide Red Pill stuff. There's even specific techniques to hide it and throw them off the trail but I've never seen them discussed here, at least not yet. They're very effective too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:35 AM
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Nope. Now we know the things you're looking for. We hide them very well. (Cue maniacal laugh)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:26 AM

Hey OP how old are you? And what would you say your weaknesses or problem areas are (if you're comfortable sharing that)?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:15 AM
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Men on here are always say "its okay to be sexually attracted to 18 year old's because its natural" It is ok. And it absolutely is natural. An 18 year old woman is both Legal age of consent (man made arbitrary social construct) Sexually mature (fully developed, puberty has long passed, all secondary sex characteristics are developed, and can reproduce) There is nothing wrong with an adult human male being attracted to, or having sex with, a consenting legal sexually mature woman. We are not apes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 11:07 PM
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Fine. I just made a post about this btw (inspired by this convo). Keep an eye out for it idk if it's approved yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:25 PM
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Our military is what backs up our government. Without it government doesn't exist and hence no laws exist. The reason you aren't some warlord's 53rd concubine right now is because of the military you hate. So you can hate all you want, but you (personally) need men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:11 PM
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The nice guy who walks you home isn't the guy I'm talking about. He's not what keeps society propped up and enemies from invading. He's not responsible for your safety. Do you understand that "society" with "laws" is an artificial construct we have made up? It allows us to live with rules within our secured borders backed up with violence (by men) and live in a "civilized" manner where there are consequences for rape, theft, murder, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:05 PM
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Who's just as bad? The military keeping the barbarians at the gates?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:59 PM
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No, great Danes do not have a history of killing millions and millions of ppl. Men do (as a whole not as individuals). Secondly I don't find the comparison to be a good one. A man is far more dangerous than a great Dane. A great Dane has its strength, teeth, and claws... Men have handheld projectile weapons that can kill instantly in a second at distance (guns). Great Danes are ultimately lower functioning animals in comparison to us, and thus if they attack it will usually be due to being afrai…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:57 PM
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Right I agree with that. But that's not the world we live in. You live in a world with men, some of who are predators of women. And what's protecting women from those predators are other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:50 PM
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Some were some weren't. Not every society was a conquering society or tried to expand offensively. But every society can only exist if it's backed up with violence. A society not backed up with violence (from men) will crumble when other men come to it's doorstep to take it's land, plunder it's resources, and enslave it's women as concubines. You can even see modern examples of this. Remember ISIS that was operating in Syria and Iraq? Well those governments were no longer capable of controlling …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:22 PM
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No. You're not getting it. Men are men. There are good men and bad. There are men who are rapists and murderers and those who aren't. Now that we have established that there are some men who would rape and murder, I point out the fact that the only thing keeping them from doing so are the laws, which are backed up by violence from other, non rapist men. So I wasn't saying you should be thanking men for not raping and murdering you, I was saying you should be thanking THE MEN that protect you fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:28 PM
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They think the constitution and the law is what protects them. That's a piece of paper and words written on paper. Even within society itself, the laws are backed up with violence. What happens if a man decides to murder someone, rape someone, etc? Oh that's right, they send armed, violent men (police) to deal with it. Without violent men these women would be someone's sex slave or concubine. "You're welcome Women" -- sincerely, Men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:12 PM
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A functioning society doesn’t need violent men There IS NO functioning society without violent men. A country is a group of ppl (tribe) backed up by violence (military force) which is necessary to even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:02 PM
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EVERYTHING in this world is ultimately backed by violence or threat of violence (from men). It's what allows "civilization" and women's rights and everything. Do they not think? What do they think the government is? It's a big group with violence behind it keeping other men (barbarians) at the gates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:53 PM
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It's absolutely nuts that the modern woman has completely forgotten this and lives in La La Land. This applied in 10,000 B.C. and it applies now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:45 PM
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I never have been. I always figured if I could fist a girl that would be very unnatural and loose, and it doesn't turn me on to watch it either. But I AM into standing in solidarity with women ✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:22 PM
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✊ WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY STRENGTH OF 10,000 FISTS ✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊✊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:15 PM
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As I told the other user, good thing 18 is legal and there's nothing ANYONE is gonna do about it. We men stand in solidarity ✊ with women and support their right to have bodily autonomy and have agency against those that would use government oppression to control them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:08 PM

This was the exact point of the topic though. To voice out an opinion about our own sex. Men as a whole are dangerous. But I still believe in innocent until proven guilty and all that. My point is women are right to be cautious when dealing with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:57 PM
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☝️ never did I state anything about children, matter fact you're the one to bring them up now, and I'm appalled you did. Baseless accusations about "going under 18" will not be tolerated. We have been talking about adults this whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:48 PM
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Good thing 18 is legal and there's nothing anyone's gonna do about it. 😏 And btw, ANY attempts by feminists to raise the age of consent will be fought tooth and nail by men. We will never allow your dystopian dream of a 25 or better yet 30 age of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:30 PM
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Ahh I see. So it's creepy when it's something you don't like. But if I say 2 men sleeping together is creepy I would be "wrong" for that, even though a 40 year old man sleeping with an 18 year old woman is more natural than 2 men sleeping together. Well I'll just say it's a good thing 18 is legal and there's nothing anyone's gonna do about it. I know feminists would LOVE to make it illegal for an older man to sleep with an 18 year old, and they would push the age of consent to 25 if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:14 PM
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☝️ I disagree Also, does a weight difference make things creepy too? What about an income difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:53 PM
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Yes our testosterone is a powerful tool. It's the fuel for our motivation and drive and can be used for good and productive things or evil and unproductive things. That's why I think masturbating to porn is a huge detriment. Men are constantly depleting their drive in an unnatural way. Beating it to porn everyday will kill a man's motivation to do things and succeed, and he will fall into a contentment of mediocracy because he's still satisfying his urges (on a minimalist level)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:38 PM
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A person your dad's age hitting on you is creepy. Nonstop. Well I guess it's subjective and I don't find it creepy. Someone "your dad's age" could be hot, or the woman could have a thing for older men. Since some women have a thing for older men, but because men have no way of knowing until they approach, they must approach to find out. I don't see anything creepy about this. I've been approached / hit on by all manner of women I had no interest / attraction for, including older women "my mom's …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:20 PM
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Lol yes we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:00 PM

Well yeah. But that's my point too. If a man works on himself and rises up he won't have to accept just anyone (like an obese woman with nothing to offer for example)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:26 PM
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Absolutely. We are very violent (as a whole) and competitive. We war with each other over trivial things and dominate everything on the planet. If the mighty T-Rex 🦖 was still alive we would hunt him for sport and enslave him in our zoos for our entertainment. We also kill for pleasure. These animalistic tendencies combined with our intelligence make us very dangerous and destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:24 PM
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I can understand being unattracted, as we all have preferences. I was just trying to understand because she said "creepy" so I was wondering if his actions were creepy, or if she labelled him as creepy merely for falling outside of her attraction preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:16 PM
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Men are dangerous. We are the most violent and destructive creatures to ever walk this earth. Now that applies to men as a whole of course, and it may or may not apply to individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:10 PM
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The last guy, what did he do that was creepy? He was stalking you prior to this, or taking photos of you from afar or something? Edit: Damn, downvotes for asking a question? Lol. That's how I know I'm doing something right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:05 PM

Changing is about individual success. You, me, or anyone else we cannot get "women to change" as a whole. What someone can do is make changes themselves and attain individual success. So my point is to be applied to individual men who want to be successful, not a group as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 11:24 AM

I'm not a feminist, and I'm one of the most Red-Pilliest users on this forum. I'm just being realistic. Women can do whatever they want. Changing is about individual success. You, me, or anyone else we cannot get "women to change" as a whole. What someone can do is make changes themselves and attain individual success. So my point is to be applied to individual men who want to be successful, not a group as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 11:22 AM

I think what holds a lot of guys back is either 1.Fear of the unknown (unable or unwilling to just go to a foreign country and explore) 2. Lack of means to do so (it takes a certain amount of financial freedom) I'm personally blessed with some amount of financial freedom (guaranteed income) being ex military so it's possible for me. So he's in Ukraine currently? Or just the region and he's in another country?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 11:10 AM

It's on men to take matters into their own hands and raise themselves up to levels where they can be successful yes. Women aren't going to drop their standards. So yes, men would be wise to aspire to be HVM, then once they are they'll have the power and options. I'm saying men should better themselves yes, but by bettering themselves they also raise their standards and options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:32 AM

Ahh ok that explains some of the names I see then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:02 AM

What's up with your username btw? Are you literally an accountant that's popular? I see a lot of ppl going with the format "adjective-noun" like that, but sometimes it doesn't make sense (to me). It might be something like "Serene-Painting" or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:41 AM

No of course not. I just don't think ppl should come to the table negotiating the price of food when they're starving, or negotiating over a bottle of water when they're stuck in the desert.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:21 AM

Yeah it's probably already at 95/5. I think more ppl should be open to Passport Broing though. I'm not even unsuccessful with women, I have a few FWB and am single by choice and shit I'm thinking about doing it my damn self.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:20 AM

But. Should someone like that become okay with someone two or three times his weight...or an alcoholic, or a drug addict, or something like that? Or should he be single for life? In answer to that question each man will have to search deep in his heart for that answer. If he can be happy with said woman, then sure. If not, then of course not. I personally couldn't be with a woman I'm not attracted to, as I would never be happy. I also couldn't be with a woman who wasn't attracted to me and was w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:16 AM

Women have absolutely gotten pickier. Or rather, they've always been this picky but now it's on display in full force because they're independent. A lot of factors actually... Independence, social media, men becoming progressively less masculine etc. But I think men can improve a hell of a lot more than they think they can. And I'm not saying men should be so picky they price themselves out of the market. You analyze the total package obviously. I'm just saying unless a man has brought himself t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:51 AM

I'm saying that men start off from a variety of positions in life. Some are born millionaire trust fund babies with good genetics. They start from a position of advantage in life. Some men are born from a position of disadvantage and are born poor and with less than ideal genes. With women's freedom and the fact that they make their own money and are living in this post feminism world, they are pickier than ever. This has left a lot of average and below average men feeling as if women are so pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:43 AM

Yes. Because a man who will take anything is the last type of man a woman wants. Women want to feel special too. They want a man who had options to select them, not a guy who is gonna try to lock her down after the first whiff of pussy he sniffed in his whole life. Men's desperation makes pussy dry like the Sahara Desert. And they can definitely sense that shit, they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:58 AM

I think most men with enough effort though can probably improve enough to where they can be attractive enough to get a decent woman they'll be happy with though. Barring extreme exceptions and outliers of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:56 AM

All of this is due to men having low standards for how they are treated. Men's standards are way too low. I really don't like the desperation and comments from a lot of men that post here. Things like "we have to take what we can get" and acting like they'll say yes to just any woman who comes along and gives them the time of day. I understand that a lot of men are struggling, but you can never have an attitude like that. You can't negotiate from a position of weakness and disadvantage. It would…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:53 PM
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Firstly, I'm sorry that has been your experience. No one should be treated like that just because they struggle with something. But what I mainly wanted to tell you was that 80lbs in a year is good progress. That's 80lbs of fat off your body. Keep up the good work. Also I wanted to tell you that if you're not already doing so, you should make sure you lift weights. A lot of women (and even men) tend to lose a bunch of weight but they did it through dieting only or dieting and cardio only. Yes, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:13 PM
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Given that men aren’t entitled to the things they used to be entitled to because they aren’t providing women the safety to the degree they used to But they are providing that safety. Women are still provided safety by men. But instead of it being the husband, father, or brother's job to protect her, women have merely outsourced their protection to other men, in this case Daddy Government who has a monopoly on violence. Women and men absolutely need each other, and our "traditional gender roles" …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:40 PM
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That depends on 3 factors: How long of a wait we are talking (this leads into point 2) The value I perceive said woman as Finally, and most importantly, what her standards were for other men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:47 AM

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/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:21 AM
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Most of my issues in life have been due to the fact that I have unfeminine tendencies, habits, interests, etc. Like you're into cars, guns, and videogames? Or you're talking about something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:36 PM
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There was a study done that found that 90% of drivers think they're "above average," and 50% believe they're in the top 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:31 PM
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I fit the 3 F’s: Fit , Feminine, Friendly Yup, that'll do it. That puts you ahead of probably 90% (maybe more I'm just estimating) of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:09 PM
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What's an artsy guy? When I hear artsy I think of long hair, unemployed (starving artist trope), skinny, "misunderstood" types.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:07 PM
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Are nerds your type though? Or do you tend to date them because they're who runs in your circle and you end up knowing a lot of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 12:14 PM
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This is going to be incredibly nerdy, so strap in You didn't disappoint bro. (And I knew what you were talking about myself haha)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:13 AM
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Well it's not that bad. Average about an hour every day. It becomes pretty routine once you get in a program like that, which is why I also hesitate to take off days because it doesn't feel right. And thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:02 AM
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Firstly, I think everyone needs something to motivate them. Your motivation can come from a variety of things such as past experiences, future goals, etc. I'm not gonna say doing it from a negative experience is unhealthy, because that frame of mind he had was likely temporary, but the positive habits will (hopefully) stay. Whatever he needs to do to get his fitness in order is ultimately good, no matter where the motivation came from. As far as me, I'm in the gym 7 days a week. It's the first t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 12:53 AM
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Enviromentmaxxing 🤣 It's getting too much lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 12:44 AM
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Logical reasoning and problem solving. We don't leave things to horoscopes or "the universe" or anything like that. We don't go off of "vibez" either or the alignment of the moon 🌙. A man thinks like this: 1. Identify the problem 2. Decide what he wants to be the desired endstate 3. Gathers information 4. Analyzes information 5. Comes up with multiple Courses of Action (CoA) that will achieve his desired endstate 6. Compares / contrasts CoA's and selects the best one 7. Implements CoA 8. Achieve…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 03:01 PM
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So if I'm understanding, you're bisexual, meaning you have a sexual attraction to both sexes, but you have a preference (for one reason or another) for women and ultimately want to date a woman. It's not an issue I have personal experience with, but I can empathize that it would be a struggle. But what about just not saying anything about it? My sexuality has never come up with any woman I've dated, and I'm pretty sure they assume by default that a man is straight hence why he is dating them. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:39 PM
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This is an incredibly interesting study btw. Thank you for posting this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 12:30 PM
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Actually I would say she learned rule 1 AND 2. Don't be fat Be not fat Off to a good start I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:10 AM
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Why do you say that? What would you say your weak points are? Besides height which you cannot improve, but is also not the end all be all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:06 AM
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Yes, there's definitely not enough not fat women to go around. But then again, lots of men are fat too, so a man can be ahead of the game by not being fat, and if he wants to be attractive then that's harder tho, as he has to be at least somewhat muscular and also lean / not fat at the same time. That's why I say women's beauty standards are far easier than men's. A woman just has to be "not fat" and there's a 99% chance she's a minimum 5. So take a standard human shaped woman's silhouette 👥 tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 09:07 PM
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Brazil was just a random example I mentioned. There was a poster on here who had said most Brazilian women weren't fat so that example was stuck in my head. But you could replace Brazil with Malaysia, China, Japan, Ethiopia, Eritrea, etc ... My point was the world balances out. And I compare on a world level not just what's around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:59 PM
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Maybe average isn't the correct word by the dictionary definition, I admit. But you get what I mean. If you're market and 70% of women in the US are overweight, then what you're saying is 85% of women are below average. If 70% are overweight then 70% would be below baseline, let's use that term instead of average. And baseline to me is plain Jane not fat 5. Most younger women who are just "not fat" to me start off as a 5 (unless she had just objectively ugly features, but that's pretty rare to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:55 PM
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Will there be AI Chads? You know, top of the line programs that make the women with the "regular AI's" jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:22 PM
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I said this in another post and I'll say it again here: Just because the average girl/person in America is fat, doesn't mean I'll accept that as average. We have an obesity epidemic in this country. Never in the history of our entire species have we been this fat. Fat is not "normal," no matter how widespread it becomes. I'm not attracted to fat. So if 50% of the girls in the dateable age are fat, those 50% are eliminated off the bat as even being potential options. So they don't play into the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:50 PM
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Thank you. And yes, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:35 AM
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Well yes I agree. It's all shades of gray. Even a concept like AWALT doesn't literally mean "All," just that it's so commonplace that a man would be best to assume it's true. But yes I agree. I would say Red Pill is a list of best practices based on things that are usually true. But of course exceptions and outliers exist in most things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:52 AM
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If I loved her then yes, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 01:49 AM
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As another user on here stated, Red Pill is stuff that men usually learn anyway, through experience, trial and error, harsh life lessons (divorce, etc), and others. Red Pill is a deliberate fast tracking of all this stuff. Instead of a guy having to fail and fail and fail, until he finally figures certain things out (by which time he may be old), men have basically summarized all of this stuff already and we have the answers. Once a man has the answers, now all he needs to do is apply it and do …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 01:28 AM
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Lol makes sense now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:11 PM
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That's what you found in Google. Google is a part of the Blue Pill system. Let me explain: Red Pill is viewed as so controversial that it has to be silenced (TRP has been quarantined on Reddit for a long time) and shamed. It literally has its name drug through the mud by ppl that either don't know what it is, or know what it is and twist and distort it anyway in order to make it out as an utterly ridiculous fringe opinion, like Flat Earthers or something, in order to discredit in and stagnate it…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:45 PM
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I agree Red Pill is the correct information, that doesn't necessarily line up with the mainstream (which is Blue Pill). I don't know what part you're actually disagreeing with me or think I have backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:28 PM
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Look, Red Pill doesn't say men aren't shallow and just bash women. We men know damn well we are shallow. Many men just expected women to be better than us but the reality turns out they're not necessarily the angels we thought they were. That's ok. That's reality. Red Pill is just accepting said reality. And it's not to say women are totally and utterly superficial and have no non superficial qualities. It's just a realistic outlook, that hey you can be an awesome guy and have a great personalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:17 PM
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You have ppl that apply Red Pill and ppl who don't apply it. You have ppl that just wanna bitch about women and become entrenched in hatred, and all manner of ppl who can view TRP and agree with it. You also have overlap from other communities in that you can have a man who is a Trump loving MAGA Proud Boy who's Red Pilled. Doesn't mean TRP pushes allegiance to Trump. TRP at its core is just information. And men can use this info to benefit themselves (which is kinda the point of it after all).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:10 PM
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Yes, men are shallow too. I didn't say we weren't. And I'm not accusing women of being "completely and utterly shallow" or anything like that. I'm saying women are more shallow than society says. We already know men are shallow, it's a trope (men are dogs, men only want one thing, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:06 PM
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Red Pill is information. It's the not necessarily politically correct or socially acceptable information. It doesn't sugar coat or mince words. It tells the harsh reality of female nature that men need to hear in order to have a checklist or playbook so to speak if they wish to maximize their success with women (whatever that may be, it's up to the individual, could be casual sex, relationships, marriage, what have you). This information, at its core, looks something like this: "Hey guys, women …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:58 PM
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You're proving my exact point. TRP doesn't state women are inferior. It's not a woman hating concept or anything like that. It merely tells men: "Hey, women are more shallow than you probably were led to believe. Here's what they (by and large) want in a man: Looks, Money, & Status. So get your ass in the gym and get in shape, make sure you have a good job/income, and get your status / game / charisma on point if you want to have success." That's the core of it. Is it "manipulation"? Idk. Depend…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:34 PM
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Exactly. I swear ppl on this sub constantly criticize TRP without even knowing anything about TRP. TRP explains the harsh reality of female nature and advises men on ways they can improve themselves in order to be more attractive to women if they're so inclined That's all. Ppl constantly criticize it without knowing shit about it. Or they'll take a Red Piller's personal opinion and attack it as if he speaks for all of TRP. Strawman tactics. It's tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 02:27 PM
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Yes, this obsession with needing "pEeR rEvIeWed StUdIeS" for everything gets old. Do you need a peer reviewed study to tell you that shit stinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 01:07 AM
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I've explained this: Alpha and Beta are terms that only apply to what a man is required to bring to attain sex. A guy who's 30 who's attractive but has never had a job, has 5 baby mamas, takes care of none of his kids, and is in and out of prison constantly can be an Alpha because he's hot. But that doesn't necessarily mean women will want to date him or have a relationship with him. A guy who's 30 who's handsome and physically fit, owns his own business, is a multi millionaire, and just got ele…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 08:40 PM
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There's a difference between Alpha Bucks and Alpha Fucks, plus there's a difference between what a woman prioritizes for a relationship. Alpha & Beta merely refer to whether a man can get sex without bringing a relationship / committment to the table ...nothing more. OP was able to get sex with this girl without committment, therefore he was an Alpha to this woman. He couldn't get a relationship with her, but that could be for many reasons (another guy was more Alpha, OP wasn't BF material, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:26 PM
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Absolutely not. The (high value) men choose. The men who are in demand. If you're a good looking man, who makes good $, and is respected and charismatic (you have Looks, Money, and Status) you'll be in high demand and have several options of women wanting to be with you, because men like that are not common. So as a HVM you are the one who selects who to commit to (out of your options). Being a HVM is flipping the script basically, as now you have women competing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:47 PM

So she still was sexting you after you had sex and she said she didn't want a relationship? That shows the she did at the very least have a sexual interest in you still. So you must not have messed anything up sexually. Either she honestly just was more interested in 2nd guy for whatever reason, or she was spooked from feeling pressure to commit so soon as others have said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:25 PM
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Not all men obviously. When they say that they are referring to a man who women are attracted to for relationships (Alpha Bucks for example). Obese Cheeto eating basement dwelling neckbeard isn't gatekeeping shit, for example. They're saying a man who has properly applied Red Pill and is desirable to women will ultimately gatekeep relationships (because he's high value so women want to lock him down, and high value men are in more demand than there is supply).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:51 PM
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No, an Alpha is a man who a woman would sleep with without requiring committment / marriage / etc. I was just giving examples of 2 different types of Alphas (Bucks and Fucks). The woman decides if he is Alpha by what she requires of him in order for her to sleep with him. If he can hit it based off his looks, vibes, and chemistry alone he is an Alpha (to that woman). If he cannot hit it without bringing something more to the table, such as committment, money, marriage, etc then he is a Beta. Bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:42 PM
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No I meant women don't necessarily understand how divided we are, as women generally seem much more empathetic to each other and the way we men interact with each other can seem cruel or lacking empathy. We also tend to give each other a little bit (or a lot) of shit, question each other's masculinity, and ruthlessly question each other's heterosexuality... You know? Typical "male bonding BS."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:59 PM
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Historically humans have been living in societies with rules and laws for 44,000. But you are right, atrocities against outgroups continue apace. Yes, I was using the criteria of how violent and tribal we have been. Even though we had those societies and things might have been "civilized" within them, they were propped up on the backs of other conquered ppl who weren't in the "in crowd" (our tribe). So I think the modern Western world is actually an unprecedented time in our entire history to wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:48 PM
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We still haven't chilled out. We have conflict all over the world. I was speaking to the West, for example the US. I wouldn't say we have been civilized for 44,000 years. We committed genocide on the Natives and enslaved Africans (relatively) recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:40 PM
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I wasn't personally that harsh with this guy. I was just speculating as to our nature in order to extrapolate the why. And I'm sure thousands and thousands of years of our bloody history is difficult to just turn off. We have only (relatively) recently become "civilized."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:31 PM
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Isn’t the theory that women don’t get into relationships with „alphas“ because „alphas“ don’t want to be bound into relationships? Depends honestly. There's 2 possibilities actually: 1. An Alpha that has his shit together: this is the Alpha that women will usually wanna lock down (Alpha-Bucks). He's extremely difficult to lock down 2. The Alpha who doesn't have his shit together: this Alpha (Alpha-Fucks) is just for flings because he won't or can't be BF material. Some women do try to lock this …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:28 PM
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We can be harsh I admit. I'm pretty sure it's in our nature, because ultimately every other man is a potential enemy, potential threat, potential competitor, etc. We do make alliances (friends) but we see the world thru lenses of territorial wild apes wearing clothes. That's one reason our history is so tainted with violence and war.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:18 PM
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He shouldn’t charge who he is, he should keep trying until he finds his complement. He shouldn't "change who he is" I agree. But he may want to consider adjusting his approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:10 PM
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No. It's because we men live in a ruthless and cutthroat world where it's every man for himself. We are not unified like women are. The way we are responding to him is being empathetic with him actually, in our own male way that women don't necessarily understand. We are trying to be helpful. But babying him isn't going to help him. We are trying to give him advice without sugar coating reality so he can be successful in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:06 PM
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Because by OP's own admission he's 6' 3" and attractive and can get casual sex if he wanted. If we take what he's saying at face value and assume it's true, OP was "good enough" to have a fling with (NSA sex), but not a relationship. He's also only 19. So he's most likely not established, as he's either in college still or working an entry level job (barring exceptional outliers like him being a trust fund baby or something). As such his earning potential is likely low right now, meaning he can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:57 PM
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How did you end up handling that one?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:41 PM
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Yup I second this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:41 PM
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This is the correct answer right here. OP, take note of this. Unfortunately you failed to "play the game" by playing it cool, acting aloof/signalling disinterest, and letting her chase you. You immediately threw all the power into her court and that's a quick way to dry up pussy. There's women on here giving the same opinion as well, just not with the recommendations to "play the game."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 11:47 AM
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But when Red Pill men use the term, everyone knows what they're saying because of context. They don't just say "female hypergamy exists" with no context. They say females are hypergamous by nature, and then go on to define how they are hardwired to want the best man they can get in various situations (for casual sex she wants a more attractive man, for relationships she wants someone making more than her, she wants a man taller than other men, etc etc). Red Pill is becoming pretty mainstream. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:18 PM
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Exactly. Language is constantly evolving and changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:02 PM
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No, Chad describes the hypothetical archetypal pussy slayer, not a general man Yes I agree. I never stated it described the general man. It describes a hypothetical man with certain qualities that make him successful with women. Red pill invented Chad and regards Chad as the archetype; the demagogue men who aren't Chad should emulate. So? Red Pill notices what women respond to and analyzes common traits among men who are successful in order to extrapolate why. And as such, they've learned, throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:25 PM
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"Chad" is just a term to describe a hypothetical man. Anyone can use it regardless of their "pill affiliation." That's completely different than what OP described by saying men have a hopeless, woe is me mentality that if they're not the Chadliest Chad that "it's over," that's incel shit, not Red Pill. Red Pill just says women care about Looks, Money, and Status more than mainstream society actually lets on. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:17 PM

Yup. Some girls are straight up freaks. I've been with some that wanted spanking, choking, slapping, being spit on, rape fantasies. I'm more than happy to oblige all that and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:08 PM
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Someone claiming that they'll never be loved because they aren't 6'3" has nothing to do with Red Pill. That's Black Pill thinking firstly, and it's the most extreme position on the far end of the Black Pill spectrum itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:41 PM
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But at least your fitness is on point. I'm not saying women will flock to a fit man, because it's still not (generally) their nature to approach. But it's one less thing you have to worry about. I guess the big thing is being asocial. Now you gotta work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:18 PM
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Neither. A: She's pretty, but seems a bit overweight. But I can't really tell because of the angle she's sitting at and the pic in general doesn't show enough of her body. So for all I know she could be "thick in the right places" and be above average. B: She seems (just off what I can see from her face) like she wouldn't be fat. But I don't think her face is pretty or average even, I would find her below average, and too manly looking (not trying to be mean, just honest). But she's not super ug…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:39 PM
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Dude, I didn't mean it like that. What I mean is obviously your confidence seems lacking and you aren't having the success you want. I meant just fine as in you should be able to get what you want as long as you work on that. But you don't need plastic surgery or implants or any of that. That's crazy talk. I (personally) think you just should put on some muscle and you'll look better, but you're not terrible now. It's 99% in your head bro, and 1% physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:52 AM
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No. Obviously not that. For some reason I was thinking shaped eyebrows. But the piercings and stuff and nails and makeup yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:04 AM
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Plumbing is good business yeah! I'm ex military and I'm in HVAC so I have 2 incomes so I'm doing well too. Blue collar trades can be really good. It also might just be a case of needing to get the experience, if you haven't had a girlfriend or had sex (idk, I'm just assuming it's possible because you're young). I know it can fill you with anxiety and you wanna get it out the way or get your experience, and then once you are experienced your confidence will go up a lot, because it won't be someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 11:48 PM
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No it's ok. Idk what to tell you because only so many things are in our control. What I do know is we should be the best we can with what's in our control, which is what my fitness comment was about. But I know you'll have to somehow fix your confidence issue otherwise it will hold you back. It will hold you back with women, but not just with women, with life in general... But especially with women. Now idk how to fix it, so I'm sorry I can't offer advice on that, but I know you'll have to get i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 11:31 PM
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Yeah hair is genetic, I knew guys going bald at 21. So what do you do about that you just lean into it and buzz it off? I think that's what I would do. I'm not saying that fitness will solve all a persons struggles. But if you're as fit as you say I'm sure you're more attractive now than when you weren't, so that's one area you've already got squared away. Because most guys aren't fit. You probably need to work on building your confidence, as that can hold someone back even if all their physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 11:14 PM
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Firstly, I like all the things you listed... Add tattoos to that list too, as tatted girls can be sexy. Something with my appearance: I have a beard and I have a lot of tattoos. As far as both of these some women love them, but some women hate them. So just by those I instantly would disqualify myself as not the type of certain women, but then I am the type of others. But I like them both and couldn't see myself being any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 11:04 PM
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I'm assuming you mean PPL. And if so, yes, you can go that often because you're staggering your muscle groups so you're still getting your recovery in while also hitting each muscle twice a week. I'm on the same program and it works well for me. But make sure your protein intake is high enough or you won't build muscle, and try to be in a slight caloric surplus (300 calories or so) so you'll stay lean as you bulk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:46 PM
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Bro, in all seriousness, you have the potential to be completely fine. You should be gymmaxxing (putting some muscle on your frame) and fixing your confidence. I think your confidence is holding you back most of all. Edit: and maybe think about beardmaxxing too once you've put on muscle. Those two things combined will give you a more masculine look.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:47 PM
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What's your weak points then if you don't mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:13 PM
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I think a lotta men overplay things like height and underplay fitness. Fitness is entirely in your control, and even if you're lacking in other areas, you'll look significantly better fit than not. Some ppl have a defeatist mindset and see things as hopeless so no point in trying.... Like have you tried? Come back when you're shredded and have a 6 pack and then let's reevaluate and figure the next step.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:11 PM
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Woman sucks off attractive guy in park bathroom, he won't even hit it he's classified her as a "head only" girl. Guy instantly flees never to be seen again. I don't think this says anything about her having any type of "value," the only thing I see here is someone who didn't value themself. most men aren't getting women to stick around and women are willing to walk away while men aren't Then men need to level up so they can have all the power. Therefore, men are still overvaluing themselves. No.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:21 AM
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Yeah but OP those 3's are getting pumped and dumped only when those 7 men are desperate or they're on drugs. Those 7 men aren't committing to those 3s, they're using them for a quick and meaningless release and then fleeing as fast as they can, disgusted with themselves once post nut clarity kicks in. I thought it was well established here that women's value is generally judged by the caliber of man she can get to stick around / commit to her, not the caliber of man who is willing to pump and du…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:02 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:50 AM
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Now why would you do that? We were having a good convo. Then you wanna throw remarks like that in there. I've probably had more sex than you. But that's besides the point. Our esteemed hypothetical reading audience can be the final arbiter and decide for themselves. The facts have been given to you. It's up to you if you wanna accept reality or not. The Red Pill is in your hand my friend, but no one can take it for you. You'll have to take that step for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:32 AM
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I said the one she was attracted to was the so-called beta. I know you did. But by definition it's not. The guy a woman is physically attracted to and can afford to bring less to the table is the Alpha. The guy who has to compensate with something other than his looks is the Beta. Alpha and Beta are relative terms when comparing men and how women classify them. The reason I used hypotheticals is to display this. Any two men can be compared and classed as Alpha and Beta relative to each other. Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:22 AM
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So then they weren't just there with nothing to offer. 🙄🙄🙄 They were initially in our example. When we dropped them into this hypothetical island they were on exactly even terms. They both had nothing. You admitted that if she was selecting one she would go with the one she was attracted to. I agree, she would. So when the playing field was exactly even, she liked the attractive (Alpha) guy more and he was hitting it under the palm tree 🌴. But she started to get hungry, and was tired of freezing…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:12 AM
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If they both have nothing to offer, they are the same. Yes I know. But the guy she picked when they both had nothing was the Alpha. He didn't bring anything different than the other guy. Sounds like he leveled up and the other guy is still naked. Yes, exactly. He had to bring in this case resources, food and shelter. Alpha guy was hitting it under a palm tree while they were starving to death. Beta guy couldn't do that. I hope you're taking notes Big Vulva Energy because I'm spitting some deep f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:51 AM
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Did you read where I said she would be attracted to the so-called beta? So I don't agree with your point. I said she'd be attracted to the so-called beta. Yes but that makes no sense. The guy she is attracted to is the Alpha, not the Beta. Because the guy she chooses in a hypothetical island scenario has nothing to offer except himself, just as the other guy has nothing to offer except himself. The guy she chooses would by definition be Alpha because he doesn't have to bring anything else except…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:34 AM
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I'm willing to bet my left ovary that the woman on the island would choose neither or whomever she is attracted to. Exactly. You just said it. .... "or whomever she is attracted to." That's entirely my point. This whole Red Pill AF/BB shit is about being "the guy she's attracted to" and not the guy she's not but will be with anyway because you have something other than your true self (money). But a grown man knows that a relationship is much deeper than just sex. Of course it is. I'm not saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:22 AM
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As I said tho, a man of stripped of everything in life, his clothes, money, possessions, home, etc and put on an island somewhere where the only thing he now has is his body and mind (personality) is who that man truly is. Place a woman on that island with 2 men in the same circumstances, the one she picks will be Alpha (or at least more Alpha than the other guy because nothing but their true selves are on display, no worldy possessions, just their body and mind) Y'all focus on just the sex aspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:04 AM
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I wonder how socioeconomics would overlay with the beta theory. Me too I don’t know any gang members. That's probably as a result of my privilege. I'm from Los Angeles, so most men I know are gang members, even if not active. I think everyone wants to be wanted for themselves. Yes exactly. And the Beta who has to bring more when other men brought less feels like he alone isn't good enough while other men were. That's ultimately the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:56 AM
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What about the example I initially gave you about the broke losers who have a bunch of baby mamas? I personally know a few men who are in their 30's who have never had jobs, have a bunch of kids, are gang members, and in and out of jail constantly. They have women fighting over them (literally) because they're attractive. Now take that same basement dwelling neckbeard who works at Walmart (also a loser), he wouldn't be able to pull those chicks fighting over prison guy. But if he suddenly won th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:50 AM
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No. Men want women to have standards. They just don't want to be "settled for" and have to bring more to the table than other men. In the hypothetical example I just gave you of the woman who didn't have casual sex no man would take issue with that scenario, because he's not being treated lesser by having to bring more
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:41 AM
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Because it is subjective. It's based on what the woman sees you as. A woman places you into the Alpha or Beta category (whether consciously or subconsciously). It's what she requires of you. A man values being sexually attractive to his woman and wants the be in the Alpha category. Even if he's gonna marry her for example and provide and all that, he still wants to be in the Alpha category. Now let's take a woman that has never had casual sex and never will, and requires committment or marriage …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:34 AM
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I would say far more than 80%. I don't know the exact percentage, but I doubt 1 in 5 men are Alphas, I suspect it's much smaller. Also it depends on the girl. A man could be an Alpha to one woman and a Beta to another.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:13 AM
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No an Alpha isn't necessarily broke. He could be successful and have $... A Calvin Klein underwear model who's successful for example. And on the other hand a Beta doesn't necessarily have $, he could be broke. For example: a basement dwelling obese neckbeard who works at Walmart. This man is what we would consider a stereotypical "broke loser," but that doesn't make him Alpha. Alpha could fuck regardless of his $ because his looks alone are enough. Beta couldn't fuck without bringing something …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:08 AM
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It's very simple: The Alpha can fuck a girl even being flat broke, no job, no future, etc. Why? Because he's attractive enough. I'm sure you have known someone in your entire lifetime that had a few baby mamas, never had a job, in and out of jail, etc. Note the part above about a few baby mamas. Why? Because they sleep with lots of different women and, even though they take care of none of their kids, women are still sleeping with them and even having their kids. Why? Because they're attractive.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:51 PM
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I think anything to do with money boosts your RMV (which can ultimately lead to sex of course, but RMV nonetheless). I think status can boost your SMV and/or RMV depending on what it is. And then looks is your SMV of course So to clarify my position: Looks = SMV (but your SMV is taken into account when assessing your RMV so it helps with that too) Status = can boost your SMV and/or RMV Money = boosts your RMV (but your RMV being high enough can get you sex, because a woman can be trying to lock …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 11:26 PM
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True, and I imagine status mattered then too, just as it does now. I imagine pre-historic Chad who led a successful hunting party and came back with a huge wooley mammoth carcass to feed the tribe would have several pre-historic Staceys and Beckeys wooing over him after he was publicly given the title and crowned "Ung - The Wooley Mammoth Slayer"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:32 PM
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It's not that they're ok with it. It's that they would rather sleep with Chad even though he's sleeping with other women (which is sharing him) than sleep with ugly men / men they're not attracted to. Some women aren't ok being alone or never having male companionship, and the ones that aren't but also can't get Chad to commit, begrudgingly accept sharing him... By their actions, not words. I know guys who are in their 30's who've never had jobs, gang members, have numerous baby mamas, and are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 05:23 PM
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. Females don't say this at all. I agree with you, they don't. In fact they always seem to say the opposite. But we watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 05:16 PM
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We don't really know much about how prehistoric humans organized their society But can we agree that pre-historic Chad was probably slaying? I imagine pre-historic Chad was in even higher demand due to there being no government/military and the fact that women needed men for protection at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 05:11 PM
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That's true. Although I don't think there's a lot of positive terms for men either, just Chad, HVM, etc. The negative is focused on much more I do agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 04:56 PM
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Yeah I love "pick me's"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 04:50 PM
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Cock carousel: the selection of various dicks a hypothetical woman indulges in during her "hoe phase." Also known as the dick buffet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 04:43 PM
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Yeah I'm beard maxxed myself lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 04:07 PM
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Yeah all the maxxing are crazy. I heard "jestermaxxing" the other day. Then there's SEAmaxxing, moneymaxxing, beardmaxxing, etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:52 PM
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Sit back for a moment and really think about the terminology we use here regularly: Chad, Chad-Lite, Tyrone, Beta-Buxxing, Passport Bros, cat-ladies, pumping & dumping, cock carousels... And on and on.... I could see this being like a foreign language for someone not familiar with the lingo. Oh and it's hilarious 😂 when you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:23 PM
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I'm in my late 30's and yes it seems weird. This newer generation seems overly sensitive (I'm generalizing guys, you guys still have awesome things about your generation) and isolated from each other, and I definitely think being born in a world where social media has always been the norm plays into that. Ppl are more isolated and on their phones for their entertainment and communication. All generations live this way now, but the younger one has never known a world pre-internet and pre-everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 02:05 PM
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I started this conversation with the hypothetical man who approaches a stranger in a store, I haven’t added any qualifiers. But you did. You afterwards stated that he was "wandering" around the mall and "on the hunt." Wandering implies aimlessly going about without purpose, which implies loser behavior. On the hunt implies predatory nature or at the very least a nature only concerned with conquest and adding to his hypothetical body count. My point was that without those added qualifiers, a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:58 PM
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An organic conversation (ultimately motivated by the desire for sex with said woman as I've established) wandering around the mall hunting for women. Now you're adding other hypothetical qualifiers to it. Guy could've been going to the store, spotted a woman he thought was gorgeous and he wanted to shoot his shot. Nothing wrong with that. And if the woman does happen to have a problem with it then it's a personal problem she's gonna have to get over.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:44 PM
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That's up to her to decide. A man approaching a woman he's attracted to is normal. Maybe she'll find him attractive too and she's single and they go on a date. From there they find out maybe they have shared interests, maybe they don't. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. But the intention is not different just because it happened "at Starbucks when they were standing in line and he struck up a conversation about the band on her shirt and they hit it off and set up a date." Ultimately that guy at S…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:38 PM
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No I agree with you. And I find the above example completely normal. But I do see women on here saying that approaching a woman just based on her appearance is "weird" because he has "nothing else to go on besides her looks" and just wants to "masturbate into her." And to that I'm thinking SMH how is he supposed to get to know anything about her then? So when I see that line of thinking it makes no sense to me. And I see it often on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:31 PM
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Right. But the attraction is the spark that makes the man want to get to know her. A man seeing a cute girl and deciding he wants to approach to see if he can get to know her better and if it could potentially turn into a (sexual) relationship is completely normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:28 PM
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OP you stated (in regards to women saying): If you see a cute girl you shouldn't approach because it's shallow to base your romantic interest on physical appearances This is something I've noticed on this sub that women seem to say a lot, and I find it ridiculous. They say that if you approach a woman based on her appearance and knowing nothing about her that your intentions are bad because you just wanna "masturbate into her" or "use her as a human fleshlight." It's ridiculous. Yes, sex (and in…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:14 PM
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No. That would be completely different. I would expect a man to shoot his shot. And I didn't mean to imply no matter what I have to step in. It was in the context of him knowing she's taken, and brazenly doing it right in front of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 08:57 PM
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It's not about whatever her potential answer is. Obviously if I'm with a woman, I know her answer would be to shoot another guy down. It's to do with the disrespect. And yes I said men are territorial over their women. Doesn't mean they're property, just means she's mine as in taken, just as I'm hers as in taken. And I would argue men being territorial and possessive is completely normal. Men are the most violent apex predators to ever walk this earth. We are tribal, and have warred with our own…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 08:51 PM
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I understand that. And I did state not to resort to violence over something so trivial. And of course your woman will be hit on regardless. But I find it highly disrespectful for another man to hit on my woman in front of me, and again it's not necessarily to do with her, it's to do with him disrespecting me by openly and brazenly trying to take what's mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 08:46 PM
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This is ridiculous. Are you saying most men abused their families?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 03:08 PM
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She might be fucking Chad, Brad, and Thad, 🤣 LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 02:40 PM
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I don't think women completely understand the male position here. It's not necessarily about "trusting her," as let's say in this hypothetical scenario he fully trusts her and she's fully deserving of that trust. It is considered disrespect to flirt with a woman that is "taken," and extremely blatant disrespect to flirt with a woman who is taken right in front of her man. He might as well be poking a bear. He's telling this man (without words) "I will take what's yours and you're not gonna do an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 12:07 PM
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Lol. All of that is pretty G Rated. And I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean you seem like you are a nice person who can't really be malicious, or at least it would be kind of foreign to you. You're ultimately right though. It's just a lotta ppl can't be like that. They want to hurt someone else. But ultimately I think just moving on is best.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:07 AM
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Well obviously he was doing it wrong. He took it to the extreme to where he comes off not as protective and territorial but as insecure and terrified that you might leave him. There's a world of difference between the two. I think a man is naturally territorial in many ways, including with his women and children and I find it to be normal and from my experience women really like it. Btw, I have also experienced extremely jealous women. Women who would mate guard so hard that if a mutual female f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 12:38 AM
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No problem I hope it works out for you. Just be the best you can possibly be. We all have weaknesses. We have to accept them.... But still be the best we can be.
/r/TheRedPill27/04/23 09:20 PM
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Ok so you're not fat/overweight. That's good. Still I would keep working out and lifting of course and try to perfect your body / physique as much as you can.. You're doing well $$$ wise, so that's good. You're not short. That's good. You say your lazy eye is a problem. That seems to be killing your confidence. Honestly I don't know too much about lazy eye, is it correctable in any way? I was gonna give you the advice of being your best as far as fitness and $$, and once your confidence is up (b…
/r/TheRedPill27/04/23 09:13 PM
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Before I can help you, I would need more details. What's your fitness level like? Describe your physical attributes (height, weight, if you work out, are you overweight, etc). How's your finances / professional life? Like are you doing well and have a good future / career, or are you currently stuck in a dead end minimum wage job? You state you have a lack of experience with women, this probably stems from a confidence issue. What are some other weak points in your life? Be honest. Some advice I…
/r/TheRedPill27/04/23 08:28 PM
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I can empathize with a guy being put off if a girl he was dating wanted to wait for sex, and he later finds out she had immediate sex with guys before him and then after they dated as well. Because yeah, it sounds like she just didn’t feel chemistry with him. Yes, that's exactly the male perspective on this issue. But many, many women try casual sex a couple of times in their late teens / early 20s and realize it’s not enjoyable for them and not worth the risk. While that sounds fair in theory, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 11:55 AM
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Standard talking points along with "every relationship is different" and others. No man having that knowledge can ever feel content knowing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:16 PM
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Just not for me. That right there. Thats what women don't realize. They can rationalize all the talking points and mumbo jumbo they want to, but as a man reading this, I immediately understood what the issue was and why you would never be able to be happy with this woman or accept or move past this. Women will read it and "fail to see what the issue is," no matter how clear about it on this sub we are. The male mind works differently from the female mind and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:08 PM
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Exactly. It's an "ignorance is bliss" type of thing ... Same way a woman struggling to lose weight may, for example, never step on the scale (even refusing at the doctor's office).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:41 PM
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Exactly. Why would any self respecting man pay more to get less than Chad got for free? These days, if a woman isn't virtually begging me to be with her; I would much rather be in the gym or working... Yup. Never chase. She has to want me more than I want her. Power imbalance (and there always is one, whether slight or severe, but never fully equal) has to be in my favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:12 PM
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If a woman likes you for your RMV she will be inclined to use this tactic, I agree. Liking you for your RMV means she wants a relationship with you (or potentially does) and/or has labelled you as "BF material" (which we have already established in another post is not the compliment women think it is). ☝️ However, if she likes a guy for his SMV, meaning she finds him "hawt" and gets "tingles" from said man, then I will argue that she will be inclined to sleep with him much sooner. The classic ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:51 PM
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You're not wrong OP. You're not required to simp and white-knight, even though some of the women and white-knights here think you are, or at the very least that you should. No one owes anyone anything for any reason after all. So why should you be required to expend your time and gas ($) on a stranger?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:26 AM

Yes but that's because they've let the women in those situations get the upper hand so to speak and have them by the balls. The Beta Buxx guys complaining about dead bedrooms are married and/or have children with their women. Being married is an entanglement of the government into your business in this case, and the guy cannot just easily leave if he's dead bedroomed, as the only way is through (what's often) a long and costly divorce. His entire life would be uprooted, have to move out or find …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:54 PM

Yes I made him pretty bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:07 PM
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I hope OP actually responds to this comment, because you're spitting facts and I wanna see what his actual rebuttals are to the points you made. Edit: and still I hear crickets chirping 🦗🦗🦗
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:23 PM
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If will Smith didn't have one-itis he could be bagging 1000s if not millions of chick's better than his wife Shit, maybe even BILLIONS!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 03:19 PM
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Explain please? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but Pac was definitely a player (at least for a few years) until he married Kidada. Or you're trying to imply that he was gay? In which case: lolz.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 03:16 PM
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But the women here will tell you he "won" because he "got her in the end," lolz.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:35 PM
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A community of post wall shrews screeching about there being no good men while simultaneously levelling up into demanding boss bitches who don't need no man in a futile attempt to attract the top 1% of men, also known as the elusive "Alpha Buxx" (rich, feminist Chads).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:22 PM
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Yeah I've seen it lol...he's my favorite artist. Anyway, then he switched up his style and got hella bitches. The man died in 1996 and Will is still competing. I'm sure he alpha widowed plenty more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:14 AM
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Completely alpha widowed. She still dreams about Tupac and has him tattooed on her. Will had to pay full price for what Tupac got for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:09 AM
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But my point is they're not going to attract the specific men they want ("high value") if they don't have all the stuff I listed on point (which you'll notice isn't just physical, but personality traits as well). A woman could, for all intents and purposes, be hot, yet that's not necessarily enough if you're trying to attract the "top men" (attractive, high earners, etc) because the amount of men that fit their criteria is very low, while at the same time there's tons of hot girls. So I would sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:43 AM
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I don't see it that way. I would see Red Pill Women as the opposite of Red Pill. Red Pill pushes men to better themselves in ways that ultimately are attractive to women (fitness, money, status, charisma, etc). So it's about actually improving yourself and making yourself more high value. The flip side to that, Red Pill Women, promotes things that women can/should do in order to be of more high value and attractive to men, such as: don't be fat (fitness), don't waste your youth because it's valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:23 AM
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How is that related to being attractive to men? Exactly. The Red Pill equivalent (if they were trying to be high value to men) would be pushing something like: 1. Don't be fat 2. Be low n count 3. Be submissive and agreeable 4. Your youth is valuable so don't waste it 5. Don't be fat. Etc... Now that I write it out this is the kinda stuff Red Pill Women pushes. FDS on the other hand is pushing for a female advantage, but they're not even doing it in regards to what men want / like. Seems more li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:02 AM
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Genghis Khan up in this ho. lol. While drinking out of the skulls of my conquered foes. For number 2, I just don't have the motivation to deal with that bullshit anymore. Women have just gotten needlessly more emotional and internally ugly over the years that that situation just screams more headache than necessary. I'm not dealing with emotional manipulation and games from women, and that hard to get attitude is exactly that. Yes, I have no time or energy for bullshit. I'm always very straightf…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:11 PM
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I'm not understanding your follow on question...? You gave me the 2 examples to pick from and I stated which I found preferable. I found it preferable because (as you rightly concluded in your post) it would show how into me she is. I'm not saying this is necessarily common or realistic, however I would find it ideal if it was a girl that I was into.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:06 PM

True. At that point you just declare yourself a warlord and start a harem of concubines.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:50 PM
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I'll take number 1. Yes, there's something to be said about decimating your competition and crushing your enemies (as in the 2nd case), but in the first case she's already rejected all others and you've already "won."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:48 PM
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I just want a government who respects my constitutional and human rights and leaves me the hell alone and doesn't try to impose its own morality upon society. I can't get down with either party because I fundamentally disagree with both on major issues. I would classify myself as more Libertarian, but this 2 party system we have sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:43 PM
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Of course. I don't even spend any significant amount of time "trying to get laid." I hit the gym 6 to 7 days a week, yes, to keep my strength and cardio on point and to stay fit. I'm making decent $ too and yes I invest in stocks and plan for and secure my financial future. But all that is stuff I should be doing anyway. I still have plenty of free time and hobbies besides working out and $. I like hiking, ATVs / dirt bikes, shooting guns, reading / acquiring knowledge, survivalism, etc. I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:06 PM
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OP I agree. Marriage used to be something else entirely. Now it's literally a contract that binds you legally to another person (through intermixing of finances and assets) while at the same time not having any requirements whatsoever for either party. It's useless and serves no purpose other than to entangle the government into your life. Although (and I know the point you're making) I would argue that ppl just shouldn't marry at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:33 PM
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Lolz
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:01 PM
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No I feel you. Most of the FWB I have are ex girlfriends of mine honestly, and we just still are friends and get together and fuck. I just personally prefer being single. But my point was you'll be able to do as you like (get a girlfriend) once you get your baseline attraction up to snuff to a level you're satisfied with. While we were friends she would make fun of me for being a virgin, jokingly call me an incel and telling me i would never have sex and that women find virgin guys repulsive. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:59 PM
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I'm done with this convo because I proved (using logic) that you were wrong and you still refuse to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:34 PM
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That's good then. You'll be 6'1" and shredded. You'll be fine. Don't trip because you have time. I'm older than you (in my late 30's) and I still get with girls your age regularly. The oldest chick I have right now (as a FWB) is 35 and I stay fucking with her because she's hot and a super freak/nympho. But the others I'm messing with are mid to late 20's... And I can even occasionally pull younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:32 PM
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You’re not engaging in good faith Yes I am and I'm gonna show you right now how you're wrong with your assumptions and conclusions you've drawn. If I kiss the same sex, that would make ANYONE man or woman either gay or bisexual. Really? So if someone held a gun to your head or the head of your child and said they would pull the trigger if you didn't kiss a woman and you kissed a woman in order to save your life or your child's life you would now be lesbian? Of course not. Since we've now establi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:27 PM
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Yes you're definitely a "late bloomer" (which of course is relative to others as a whole). But yeah I would say don't worry too much about it right now until you've levelled up so to speak. Once you're shredded, have your $ and wardrobe and everything on point (if it isn't already), and you've maxed out or close to maxed out then they'll come. Trust me. I think ppl here often put too much emphasis on height and not enough of fitness. For example, I hear about ppl who say a woman would prefer a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:19 PM
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Hey OP, how old are you? (So I can get a sense of how big of an issue this is) And also, have you identified why you're still a virgin, and are you taking any steps to actively improve so you can have success in the future (going to the gym, looksmaxxing, etc)?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:01 PM
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you’re indeed asking if I would be willing to partake in lesbian/bisexual behavior Why do ppl move the goalposts? Yes, I'm asking whether you would prefer engaging in bisexual behavior I never denied that. What I'm not asking is for you to be bisexual. Cut the bs. You cut the BS. Either engage in good faith or don't bother. Don't twist words and don't move goalposts. But a man would never question another man if he would kiss an. Attractive man Well then you're wrong because men have posited a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:04 PM
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The thread is weird Your opinion is noted. you’re basically asking me if I would turn bisexual if I only had an ugly man to kiss on. I'm not asking if you would turn bisexual I'm asking what action (out of 2 actions is preferable). My answer is neither. Your answer is noted, but failure to follow instructions I'm gonna have to deduct a point. No one would ever ask a man this question They're free to, and some women have posed hypotheticals to me in this post, which I have answered. I’m not sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:42 PM
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There's some definite truth to Black Pill. I still agree with Red Pill though, but I think looks should maybe be emphasized a little more. What I don't like about Black Pill is that I think it places too much emphasis on certain factors and not enough on others. Let's take height and fitness for example. I hear a lot of Black Pillers say height matters much more than fitness and you can be out of shape as long as you're 6'3 or whatever. I disagree. I think most women would take a fit guy who's 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:23 PM
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A good choice. I too would take the attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:19 PM
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Yes I tried to mitigate the feelings of danger or future danger in my post, but I guess those fears can't be just turned off so it can play into the decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:18 PM
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That's the answer most women seem to be giving, that attractive woman>unattractive man because unattractive man is repulsive while attractive woman (even though they're straight) is more neutral (or at least not actively unattractive). So would you say the following is correct: Attractive man > attractive woman Attractive woman > unattractive man Unattractive woman > unattractive man ? Basically unattractive man is always the lowest level, or am I off base?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:16 PM
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Thank you for your insight. Yes I'm understanding pretty well the reasonings for women's decisions based on the responses here. Majority of the them have chosen the woman too. A lot of them have said it's because the guys personality was so horrible. But then a lot of the responses have been that the woman, although not what they're attracted to, would be more of a natural experience whereas said man would be a negative experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:02 PM
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Yes, I will admit Henry Cavill for example, is a more attractive human being than Mama June, and the formality matters tho. For example, let's say you showed me a picture of a man who transitioned to a woman, and now was super hot and indistinguishable from a woman. I would find that (what I thought to be natural) woman hot. If you then revealed that it was a man who had transitioned, I would instantly be turned off, knowing there was a Y chromosome, even though the physical appearance hadn't ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:56 PM
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He shoulda used the 2 step approach. Step 1) Be hot Step 2) Don't be not hot
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:22 AM
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🤣 LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:57 AM
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Aw, rejection hurts doesn't it? Lolz
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:47 AM
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Your opinion has been noted. If you have nothing else, feel free to leave, you know where the exit is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:37 AM
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Really? Can you explain why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:36 AM
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Ok I got a different question for you.. You can eat out Honey Boo Boo's mom, or you can eat the ass of Honey Boo Boo's mom? Make your choice, live or die.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:12 AM
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No. Firstly, you never gave me an answer to my question. Secondly, forget the question. The question is ultimately not important. You know what is important? Our attitude, manners, and the way we treat each other. There's no need for us to be rude or snappy with each other. So how about we start over? I'll go first. What's up? How's your day been?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:10 AM
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Hell, I've read about a "sting" many years ago that turned out to be entirely made up of government agents "infiltrating" an organization made up of other government agents That's ridiculous! Lol. I have to find this article now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:02 AM
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Well no not a quick peck. If the option was give Henry Cavill a peck on the cheek or eat out Honey Boo Boo's mom, I would give him a quick peck. Because a peck isn't sexual. But I'm thinking make out, which involves lots of tongue 🤢 and spit transfer 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:45 AM
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That said, I’m tongue twisting with the 300 pounder. As there can only be one superman in my relationship. 🤣 Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:40 AM
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I'm an ex military guy. And I was a grunt, so it was all men I worked with for many years (this was before women were allowed in combat positions, which was only relatively recently). So yes, I've been in hyper masculine environments too where everyone has showered together and seen each other naked regularly, and don't get me started on the gay jokes and pranks and shit they pull. So it's not that I'm homophobic, if you're implying that, and I have a couple of gay friends too. It's just my hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:35 AM
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Yeah I noticed that. Lol. I was trying to make him as unappealing as possible. But then all the women on here say that his personality is a deal breaker, so then I have to further specify a secondary question to each one individually excluding his personality. Lesson learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:22 AM
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I don't know about that. I've been hit on by gay men more times than I can remember. I never took it the wrong way, just declined, told them I'm straight, and that was it. I could see how if a gay man continued to press the issue how that would then be disrespectful, but I haven't had that happen. Same thing with women that have hit on me that I had no interest in, I politely declined, told them I'm flattered, and left it at that. At no time did I feel upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:16 AM
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☝️ I disagree. Absolutes get to the root of the issue. The point was to see which option is preferable. If you allow an escape hatch and everyone says neither, no opinion is collected. We already know that neither option is good. But what ppl have a habit of doing is seeing 2 bad options and saying "neither," even though that's not really the truth because if confronted with a situation where your only option is "horrible" or "moar horrible" you would obviously pick the option of "horrible," as …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:04 AM
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What's the point of asking what's the point? You can keep it moving if you don't wanna engage in this post instead of coming in here with all that sass. And if it offends you so much, smash that block button.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:54 AM
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Excellent post. And your ideas definitely make sense. Yes, I feel it's a completely different thing a man and a woman having sex. I wouldn't mind a girlfriend having sex with a woman (and it's not just because I would want a 3 some or to watch, I mean I literally wouldn't be upset about my girlfriend sleeping with other women on the side) but I would absolutely mind another man. Now to answer your questions: Also, if you were forced to have sex with a man, and only could choose whether you are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:50 AM
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It seems like you want women to pick a specific option. What would make you think that? I've asked for women's opinions and they've given them. I frankly don't care what option they pick, only that they answer truthfully. You get off on it or something? On getting the opinions of anonymous women on a Reddit forum? No. It takes much more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:26 AM
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Yes, I was speaking in context of sexual stuff. And yes, the sex drive / level of horniness overrides it. The hornier I am, the less disgusted I can be in the context of sex. BUT, that's only for a woman and only if I have a sexual attraction to her. I'll check your link too thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:34 PM
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Yeah, and as long as everyone's on the same page that's what counts. What's acceptable for one is unacceptable for another and vice versa. Long as the boundaries are there, clear, established, agreed to, and respected there's really no right or wrong answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:21 PM
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I think for women it makes much more sense to be actively repulsed by an unattractive man because engaging with him in any way could pose a risk to ending up with his child, which is a huge evolutionary price for women. While messing around with other women costs us nothing and in some contexts can gain us benefits. There's no reason for us to need revulsion towards other women sexually, they're no threat. This makes a lot of sense. I really don't understand where the male revulsion towards gay …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:20 PM
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Thank you. You've provided some good insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:14 PM
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That makes it harder but since I’m not single and haven’t been in a long time the idea of making out with any man especially one that is below my husband is repulsive Yes, that's understandable. woman still seems more appealing if it’s just a fun make out session I would still want the more attractive person and in my mind it doesn’t feel like cheating. As a man I wouldn't see it as cheating either. At least for me personally, I have a high tolerance for a woman I'm with engaging in stuff with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 11:14 PM
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In my post I stated that the man won't get violent, your safety is guaranteed, you won't have any issues with stalking or attachment, etc. Think of it as these ppl are generated for this hypothetical via advanced technology where they're printed out like something out of Star Trek assembling their atoms or something, and once it's over, back to the mainframe they go. Is your answer still the same now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:09 PM
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That seems to be the majority opinion here from women who have answered: that the woman would be more of a neutral experience vs an active disgust of the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:07 PM
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I see. Yeah I kinda threw their personalities in last minute, I initially just had physical descriptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:47 PM
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I can't do a question for men tho, it's against forum rules
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:38 PM
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So you think I should've left the misogynistic part out and made him an equally good person, but just as unappealing physically? Would that have been better in your opinion? I threw that in there because I was trying to make him as unappealing as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:38 PM
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It would matter, because you would be forced to pick, and by being forced to pick you would select the least bad option. For example, if you were to tell me I had the choice of being beaten up or being beaten up AND whipped, I would choose being beaten up, because it's the less bad option. True the scenario is presented under duress, but that doesn't change the fact that being beaten up is superior to being beaten up and whipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:36 PM
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You said yourself you would make up with another dude (i would too) rather than with a hella ugly woman. No I didn't. I said the opposite. I said I would make out with the ugliest woman on earth as opposed to the most attractive man on earth. Yeah, it’s almost like sexuality is fluid right? For some ppl it is. For me, for example, it isn't. But this experiment seems to suggest women's sexuality is fluid, or at the very least can be fluid depending upon the scenario or choices given. We would now…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:34 PM
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Very well written post. And I wasn't trying to claim women are bi, obviously everyone can claim what they want and I will respect that. I just, personally, have a rigid definition of what constitutes straight, and yes I am actively repulsed by male on male. But I understand your point, and many other women have claimed a similar thing, that the experience with the woman can be more neutral, while the man in this scenario is repulsive. So that seems to be the majority opinion. And as far as my de…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:31 PM
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Thank you for your response. Let's say the guy wasn't an asshole, let's say he's a wonderful human being, but all the other points on him and on the woman stand, would your answer change or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:25 PM
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Clearly everyone is picking the woman, what exactly are you proving here? Exactly that. That most straight women would pick an attractive woman over a highly undesirable man if they had to choose. There have been some outliers, but that's the majority opinion. Have u been to a club bruv? A lot of women kiss other women all the time I know this. But when I think "straight," I think that ANY heterosexual option will be superior to ANY homosexual option. But the point is, even women who identify as…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:24 PM
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Isn't it obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:18 PM
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Interesting thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:18 PM
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Well I used that metric to gauge the temperature of women on the issue in relation to my own temperature. The thought of kissing another man is disgusting for me personally, although I won't oppress another's right to do as they want and believe in freedom and equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:17 PM
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I wasn't calling homosexual ppl disgusting or anything like that. I was saying (male) homosexuality is disgusting for me personally (meaning im actively turned off by the idea of it).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:15 PM
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I understand. And no, it wasn't meant as a trap at all, as you correctly concluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:08 PM
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Not enough information was given in the very brief, one sentence hypothetical that the commenter posited to me. She merely said she had sores. What kind of sores? Are they gonna give me HIV, turn me into a zombie, etc? Or is it merely a cold sore on the bottom corner of her lip? Seeing as I had no further details, I went with the most generous scenario (for myself) and assumed the best. But I agree with you, if the choice is going to physically affect my health or give me some kind of disease, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:03 PM
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I understand this perspective. We do tend to go to extremes on this sub sometimes. But ultimately it's a good place for honesty so everyone can learn and express their opinions. I know I frequently give my opinion and get negative feedback from women. But I do state my honest opinion, with no regard to how I will look, being politically correct, or how men in general will look. Because some realities are harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:58 PM
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Quick question, where would misogynistic but highly attractive man fall into this formula?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:48 PM
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So I did a good job of making him unappealing then? Could I have done anything different, like do you have any suggestions, or did I pretty much nail it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:36 PM
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No it has nothing to do with proving my straightness. I am 100% straight. It's just that the revolting woman is less revolting to me than a man. You're reading into it too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:31 PM
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Ok. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:25 PM
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Ok. I understand that. Now let's take out the misogynistic part. This guy is just as physically unappealing, however he's not a misogynist, on the contrary he spends his free time fighting for human rights (including women's issues), donates to charities, and volunteers at child cancer wards and animal shelters. Would your answer change, or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:21 PM
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Yes I understand and agree with your point but in the reverse direction as a man. The most hideous woman (to me) will always be closer to an attractive woman, just by the very fact that she's a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:17 PM
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So in this hypothetical you would select the woman then if you had to choose? That's what I'm gathering from your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:14 PM
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True. But you didn't give me that option. You only gave me two options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:06 PM
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Wow. You are definitely in the minority here then. And yes, I made him hygienic on purpose in order to attempt to get to the root of the issue without certain things being an excuse or an escape valve if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:05 PM
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In that case I choose the ugly one, as the assault is likely to be less violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:04 PM
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Would you rather be assaulted by a handsome guy or an ugly guy? Is that choice really going to make a difference for you as a straight man? They're both going to be horrible. But since I asked for ppl to select, I myself will select from bad choices as well. So my answer to your hypothetical is please provide more information...? Are they exactly the same in every regard except for one being handsome and one being ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:53 PM
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Maybe so. But in my hypothetical ONE OF THESE IS GONNA HAPPEN REGARDLESS, so you can actively choose or the decision will be made for you. That's the premise of this hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:46 PM
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So you're saying for you, both scenarios are equally bad and you would basically leave it to chance or a coin flip?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:43 PM
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I see. I was not expecting that answer. I was thinking the 2nd option (the woman) would be far less horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:39 PM
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Yes, even the answers I'm getting from women who identify as straight are all basically in agreement that the woman would be less of a disgusting experience (even more of a neutral experience) than the man (who is actively disgusting).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:37 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:35 PM
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Ok. So it was ultimately his personality that did him in in this case for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:30 PM
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I understand. That's a common response I'm getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:29 PM
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I think men tend to maybe have more rigid definitions of this kind of stuff. I have a very rigid and absolute definition of what constitutes straight myself. But ultimately every individual can identify as they want and I'll respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:21 PM
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Yes, I can agree with that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:17 PM
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Lol. And yes I'm understanding your thinking here. Is Mama June Honey Boo Boo's mom? If so, lol, and 🤢... But alas, she has two X chromosomes, so for me is superior to Henry Cavill if I also had to choose under duress.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:15 PM
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Ah I see. So then for you they're truly equally bad if you would leave it to chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:12 PM
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What if I removed the negative personality traits then? Let's say the man is just as physically unappealing, but he's an otherwise wonderful person who does all manner of humanitarian and charitable work, and he's not misogynistic at all. Would your answer change or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:07 PM
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I see. So horribly repulsive man can be worse than hot woman, even for a straight woman then I guess. I think straight women maybe aren't as disgusted by participating in homosexuality as straight men are then. And I know, I set the scenario up to be a bad and worse type of situation. But I guess for me, the worse will always be the man no matter how bad the choice of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:05 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:03 PM
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I see. So if I took out that part, and let's say he's a great person and spends his free time working in an animal rescue shelter, campaigning for human rights, and donating to charities, but is otherwise just as physically repulsive, would your answer change or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:02 PM
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Fair enough. As other users are commenting here, the man is the more disgusting experience and even for a straight woman the experience with the woman can be viewed as "neutral" or at the very least not "actively disgusting." As far as if I had to choose in a reverse hypothetical, it wouldn't be to "prove I'm straight," it would simply be because a homosexual experience (to me) would be more "actively disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:00 PM
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I mean…you’re basically holding a gun to our head in this hypothetical…but okayyyy. Yes that was by design... A feature, not a bug so to speak. For the rest of your comment I commend your sense of humor and I lol'd. Does that satisfy your request for an answer??? Yes, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:57 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:55 PM
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As I stated in my answer to the reverse hypothetical, there is no scenario imaginable where a homosexual experience can be "not disgusting," but as my point is being proven this is not the case for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:54 PM
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I see. So as a straight woman, a potential homosexual excounter can be viewed as more "neutral" as opposed to "disgusting" by default?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:53 PM
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The fact that women would find both scenarios unappealing is by design. But information can still be gleaned by forcing a choice on which one is worse, and as such we can learn which scenario is more unappealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:51 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:49 PM
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So let's say I left out the misogynistic and horrible person part, and let's say he is an excellent person that volunteers at old folks homes, children's cancer wards, and animal rescue centers, but is just as physically unappealing in my example, would your answer change or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:47 PM
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Making out with someone obese, hideous, old and creepy sounds disgusting. Yes it was meant to be extremely unappealing. Would you rather eat dog shit or a leaf? The leaf. No, it means it’s the less gross option. I agree. That was my whole premise, identifying the less bad option. Also look up the Kinsey scale, it’s not all or nothing for most people, and women might not repress it as much as men (they are a bit more fluid in their sexuality). I agree. I actually think the completely 100% straigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:45 PM
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Fair enough. And thank you for complying with the post instructions! What if I left out all the misogynistic stuff and he's actually a great person who helps at a children's cancer center and rescues animals in his free time, but still just as physically unappealing, would your answer change?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:41 PM
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Fair enough. I guess maybe my definition is extremely rigid then. But what about without the sores? I deliberately made it a point in my post to say they were disease free, because I thought if one had a disease (like in the woman with sores example) it would influence the decision. What about an extremely unattractive and obese woman (who's HIDEOUS) but otherwise clean and disease free, vs the most attractive man on earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:38 PM
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Well I'm not going to insist anything, as whatever someone claims as theyr sexuality is what they claim/identify as. I was just pointing out my own preference in the reverse hypothetical to show that MY personal definition of straight is extremely rigid and absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:36 PM
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For example, if I had to eat shit, I'd rather eat shit that's in the shape of a decant waffle than eat the shit that's in standard log form Lol. Fair enough. I too would choose waffle in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:34 PM
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Fair enough. I would personally be actively unattracted to both (in a reverse scenario) but as I stated in my post far more actively unattracted to any man, as it goes against my sexuality, and at least for me could not be neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:33 PM
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Fair enough. So which would you choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:32 PM
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whereas Option 2 may not be arousing but at least is not disgusting. I see. See for me, any homosexual act would be disgusting automatically, regardless of the looks of the individual. So I'm thinking maybe men who are straight are more disgusted by homosexuality than women who are straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:31 PM
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Honestly I wasn't expecting that answer. And thank you, your formula on your original comment is clearer now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:29 PM
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If I had to choose, I would choose option 2. Yes, that was the scenario, having to choose, so thank you for doing so. If I had no choice and someone held a gun to my head forcing me to make out with one of them, I'd choose the more attractive woman But why? If you're straight, and get "no arousal from women" wouldn't the man be a better choice, as at least he's from the sex you're normally attracted to (even if you're not attracted to him personally).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:27 PM
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Fair enough. I figured these would be the answers I got. Although I am pleasantly surprised that women are at least answering the question properly. I've noticed women tend to not like the idea of rigid hypotheticals with 2 bad options, but that's a good way to actually make a comparison and get their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:25 PM
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So if I left out the misogynistic part, and let's say he's a good person, but he's still just as ugly physically, would your answer change or would you still pick the girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:21 PM
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Interesting. Can you explain why you, as a straight woman, would find a homosexual experience preferable to a heterosexual one?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:19 PM
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Well it's a question because I believe I (and I think men in general) tend to have much more rigid and absolute definition of "straight" than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:19 PM
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LMAO I know. I tried to word it funny on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:17 PM
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Would you rather make out with Henry Cavill or some morbidly obese woman with sores. The woman with sores.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:16 PM
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Thank you for your response. And I see, so our definitions are at odds then and that's the reason for the inconsistency. Under my (rigid and absolute) definition, any woman who chooses 2 would be bisexual. But under a less strict definition she would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:15 PM
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That's my assumption as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:06 PM
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Thank you. I was very deliberate in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:06 PM
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Thank you. And you identify as straight I'm assuming? And also can you please explain your reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:01 PM
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I'm speaking to the study results. The study results (whether you claim flawed or otherwise) did not show 20% of men to be found "very attractive" or even "attractive." If we include anything above average as being attractive (which I would) it was 7% were rated above average, while 0% were rated "very/most attractive," 12% as average, and 80+% as below.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:04 AM
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The flawed OKC study shows that women found 20% of men "very attractive" but still messaged men not in that 80%. That's incorrect. Women rated 0% of men as "very attractive." I don't have the study link in front of me but I have the graph. The 20% figure is sort of misleading because it includes men being found as "average." For example, 12 of the 20% were rated as average, right in the middle. Then 5 the next bracket above average, 2 the next, and 0 the next (the most attractive category). This…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:54 PM
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What city do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:18 PM
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It was a joke honestly. Of course there's not enough 6'+ hulking Chads to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:57 PM
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I need to keep working because if my husband can’t work, we starve. No excuses! (Jk) Ok I look forward to your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:58 PM
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Game, set, match right here. All I hear is crickets chirping 🦗🦟🦟. Well played.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:58 PM
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I'm 38. So getting ancient. And I got 2 on the same tour (Afghanistan, one in 2008 and one in 2009). But it happens. I have a buddy with 2 and I have a few buddies with 1, I have one buddy with 3 tho. That's the most I've personally seen (like a guy I personally know). And yes, I wear one Purple Heart obviously, with one bronze oak leaf cluster on it to denote the second award (I was Army), you obviously never wear two actual purple heart medals, but if you're awarded 2 you're awarded 2, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:52 AM
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Yeah that's bullshit. They should give them the best medical treatment possible. What I wanna know is when they're terminal, do they make them comfortable? Like give them a morphine drip and just let them be high and comfortable at the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:27 AM
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I can imagine. I hate to see children suffer. I hate seeing women hurt as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:18 AM
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Is that where you work? If so, can you speak to some of the challenges / horrors? I imagine seeing children suffer (and die) is part of it? That seems pretty horrible. Edit to add: oh I'm sorry you said you DONT want to talk about it I'm sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:10 AM
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I think it wasn't quite as bad when it was Braveheart on a field. It was still terrible, but modern warfare is uniquely destructive Old school war I think was its own animal. So it was very brutal in that you killed a lot closer up. Sure they had archers and projectile weapons, but I'm talking about Infantry combat. But modern war is its own unique animal in that you can get completely taken out and not even have seen it coming, you can for example get sniped, step on a mine, get blown up by an …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:00 AM
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Thank you. It was an honor and privilege, and I can't believe they paid me to do it. Yeah I know what you mean. Some guys can't take it or can't adjust mentally. And I got multiple buddies that are physically fucked up: missing a leg, missing an arm, I got one buddy missing 3 limbs (both legs one arm), got one missing an eye, one paralyzed, one with traumatic brain injury so bad he's mentally handicapped, a few are severe burn victims, etc etc. I could go on and on. And then I got a lotta buddie…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:38 AM
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I think war makes men more attractive, but at a truly horrific, terrible price. Can confirm. I'm a combat vet with multiple tours and 2 Purple Hearts 💜. Women love violent men (or men with the potential for controlled violence). But it did come with a price, PTSD, back and knee problems, and heroin addiction (which I've beaten and I'm clean now).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:10 AM
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Pretty much sums it up and "hulking six chad millionaire" is not the only people we're attracted to by a long shot. Of course not, and no one ever claimed that. We know very well that you women also like the hulking 6' 1" Chad millionaire, the hulking 6' 2" Chad millionaire, the hulking 6' 3" Chad millionaire, the hulking 6' 4" Chad millionaire, among others, plus all the billionaire versions as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:56 AM
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I’ve heard this “women just exist and get free stuff” sentiment and I’ve never had that, not even close Well of course we do exaggerate on this sub, I do admit that. We say that because it's relative. As a man, no one will ever give you anything or have any sympathy for you (not just with dating, with anything). We live in a cruel, competitive, and cutthroat world, and we see women don't have our struggle so we contrast the experiences, and yes some exaggerating happens. But the overall contrast…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:22 AM
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I agree. I think both sexes can be delusional honestly. That comment she made was just ridiculous tho. But I did lol to be fair, it painted a vivid picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:27 PM
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If you got hate in your heart let it out. Just reach deep down inside and let that hate out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:21 PM
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You're not a 3 to 4 lolz. I knew it. Soon as you said you were 120 pounds (which is not fat) and not deformed I knew it was impossible. Just so you know, a sub 5 non fat and non deformed young woman doesn't exist. Being "not fat" is automatic 5 minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:23 PM
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It’s the men who cry they can’t have an 8 when they are a chubby, neckbeard that works part time at Wal-mart, heavy breathing typing all angrily on here that the OF model who does his favorite anime cosplay won’t ever actually respond to his comments and pissed she’s dating a hot guy. Feel better? It's good to let it all out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:17 PM
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How's the experience been?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:57 PM
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Agreed. If you're an athlete or actor or something who knows he can slay regularly, then hiring professional, top tier escorts is much more acceptable. But for a normal man (mere mortals) who wants to pay a chick to fuck? That defeats the whole point of it. It's like a hunter going hunting in a game park where the animals are chained up right in front of him to shoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:56 PM
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No, just mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:36 PM
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Ok let's break that down, I thought it was obvious the point I was making but I guess not, so here we go: I was speaking to the fact that, although the position of "rape by deception" (about income) is a minority opinion that some women have espoused, feminism as a whole is a dangerous ideology for men, due to the way that the courts and laws are already heavily stacked in favor of women (divorce court and family law, domestic violence laws where basically the man is assumed guilty, men are unab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:30 PM
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Umm right where? Because I'm not seeing it. You quoted me. So let's break it down. My previous post from that I stated that I have seen some women claiming that a man lying about his income was "rape by deception." You then asked me "so you've seen a few individuals espousing some stupid ideas..." I then state " more than a few.. " and you can see the rest of the quote. NOWHERE did I say or even imply that "most rapes are the result of women having their feelings hurt" As I said, this isn't the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:16 PM
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Right. That's my post. Now show me where I said that most rapes are made up because they got their feelings hurt? This isn't the flex you think it is lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:11 PM
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How many men do you personally know, in real life, who have actually done this purely out of a devotion to or belief in the "red pill", though? Well this stuff is, slowly but surely, becoming more widespread and common knowledge, so more and more men have "the playbook" so to speak. And I think this terrifies women. They don't like men "gaming the system" and want "lesser men" to know their place. It's gatekeeping. Same way old money doesn't like new money, because they feel like ppl who don't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:35 PM
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Women like authenticity, they like strength of character, they like diversity of experience I agree. They can spot the pushy red pill/PUA guys I disagree. and find it annoying and creepy I agree. So I disagree that they can always spot Red Pill guys. If a man works hard enough and gets his fitness, money, game, social skills, etc on point he is literally indistinguishable from a "natural." But at that point, you can argue that he IS actually the high value man that the world sees, as his attribu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:15 PM
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The point I was making was that testosterone, which fuels our sex drive, is a potent motivator for the things men do. Men have desire for sex with women. This is the reason we are productive. Yes, it's from a very zoomed out perspective. But take the smartphone example. True I said "some man invented it." I will concede that one singular man didn't invent it, and it was a group effort. However, the point remains, those men that worked on it were trying to advance in their field and their company…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:54 PM
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Btw how are the women over there in Argentina? I mean, I bet they're beautiful. But what I mean is are they more conservative, or has feminism taken over?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:32 PM
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Thank you. Sometimes my long and detailed posts are hidden away further down the chain and don't get seen, so I'm glad someone saw it. Speaking of rape and racism, I think a lot of that ultimately stems from sex too. As you said, white men take offense to black men having sex with their women. And rape was seen as something that would upset the entire dynamics of the system that I mentioned (the balance of power and exchange between the sexes) and also the fact that yes it was viewed as men's du…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:19 PM
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I don't think so, and here's why: Firstly, all men "put on acts to get laid." Everything a man does ultimately stems from a desire to get laid. This cell phone I'm typing on right now, some man invented it because he wanted to get laid. How you ask? Well, inventing a cell phone would get the man money (which women like) and status (which women also like), which would both increase said man's probability of getting laid. Secondly, if women didn't like it because it's "very easy to spot" said fake…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:07 PM
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And it's unfortunate that women like you are the unfortunate casualties of all of this. I had a friend that was old fashioned/traditional and a Christian. She would lament to me the same things how she felt that her just wanting to be a wife and mother and marry early was almost frowned upon in society and that she felt society was telling her that she shouldn't have these old school desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:03 PM
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Which is why you always have to have her feeling like you could replace her or leave her at any time (dread game). Never let a woman feel as though she's finally got you and is safe and protected with a marriage, because a marriage entitles her to your assets and is backed up by the full force of the government (men/simps with guns who can and will visit violence upon you in order to force compliance). You see, EVERYTHING in this world is ultimately backed up with violence (or threat of violence…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:31 PM
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That's true actually. Lotta good jobs in the trades and union jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:26 PM
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It can only stem from a twisted, degenerate mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:25 PM
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No the esteemed poster who you just thanked was mistaken. Either she took what I said and twisted it, or she confused me with a different poster. I think it's the latter, as I'm giving the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:00 PM
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No I never said that! I said I've seen women very obviously trying to stretch the definition of rape, to include "rape by deception" as being a guy who, for example, lied about his income. And I never said that was most rape accusations. If it's "in writing" it should be very easy for you to quote me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:58 AM
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Firstly, I didn't defend sexual exploitation at all or prostitution in any of my comments. I dislike the idea, and could never visit a prostitute myself, because (as you correctly stated) there's an issue of consent. I would never find an experience enjoyable knowing I'm paying $ to a woman and that's the only reason she's sleeping with me. So let's firstly not lump every man into the category of supporting prostitution or the exploitation of women. Secondly, it's WOMEN who are pushing this sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:09 AM
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Your analysis is spot on. Women have a hard time understanding how very simple man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:33 AM
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OP, as you know, if this is the case the man has already failed, and he failed long ago for it even get to this point. There's literally no coming back from this. Even if she now "agreed" to do anything and everything you wanted so you won't leave her, you've still lost because she did them willingly for previous men. The marriage is over and I would see divorce as the only option. But.... Men get screwed in divorce. So the true answer is don't put yourself in this position to begin with (marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:19 AM
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I never said it’s equivalent. Show me exactly where I said that. I’ll wait. Well since you've so narrowly tailored the standard to me having to show you "exactly where you said it's equivalent" you are now displaying that you're either trolling or not arguing in good faith. But what the hell, maybe I'm wrong. So here goes nothing. You state that men could "go gay for pay." Then you state the following: Do you really think that women who prostitute themselves do it because they’re attracted to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:58 AM
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No. It's sick to equate having sex with an unattractive member of the sex you're attracted to to having sex completely against your sexuality (as in the gay for pay suggestion). They are not equivalent WHATSOEVER. I would rather have sex with the ugliest, dirtiest, most obese, most deformed and grotesque woman on earth as opposed to have sex with the cleanest and most attractive man on earth. They are not equivalent whatsoever, just as the esteemed poster above me pointed out, and I was agreeing…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:40 AM
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The arguments and false equivalencies would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that they think they're actually making a good argument. It's sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:29 AM
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This is a bizarre way of looking at things, most women have sex if they like a man and want to feel closer to him Right. But my point is (and I'm going to generalize here) men tend to generally be thirstier and/or have a higher sex drive than women. This can be seen on display in full force in the gay community, for example. Since men are thirstier, and since women know this, women have a certain amount of "power," as they have something men want and can't get anywhere else. Women as a whole hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:54 AM
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If men prefer casual to relationships, they absolutely did make these rules. My point is that women changed the standard from marriage and commitment to what it is now. They ultimately gate keep sex, do they not? If women en mass re-adopted old school values these problems would disappear because the only way men could get sex would be through marriage (how it used to be). How many men lie to get sex? How many feign interest in a woman and a relationship? Yes they do. But who's ultimately allowi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:07 AM
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And has likely slept around with a fair few women by that point too, emotionally destroying god knows how many women in the process. Probably. Due to the modern world and what's now acceptable and normal and all that. But to be fair, men didn't make these rules, they're just playing by them. And the men who don't play by them and are religious are also struggling to find chaste women so it goes both ways. But ultimately, women gate keep sex. Women used to have basically a monopoly on sex. If men…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:49 AM
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Receding hairlines at 25? I would say that's more genetic, I knew guys at 21 that were legit going bald and guys in their 40's and 50's with full heads of hair. Also, to be fair 25 to 28 is a man's prime for a relationship and is prime settling down time, is it not? He's done with schooling, into his career and actually making some $, hopefully has added some muscle to his frame (if he's been lifting for several years now), has some life experiences, and is still young.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:42 AM
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Men in their teens and early 20's tend to not want to settle down these days, but I think that has to do with the availability of commitment free sex in this post feminism world. "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" and all that. It's an unfortunate side effect to the women who actually do want to settle down early.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:34 AM
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The same can be said for 4/10 women. They’re invisible to a lot of men including their equals. I don't think so. I think it works where male looks matches are invisible to the women on their level because of hypergamy and women always wanting "top tier" men (or at least men above them). A man with no education that has a struggling career is not a “decent man” to marry. He was an assistant manager at McDonald’s then became a TSA agent eventually. I don't know enough about this exact man or situa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:31 AM
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But I guess my point is men are not chasing around 4/10 for relationships or marriage Chad isn't. And in this context I'm not talking about a 10/10 male underwear model. I'm using Chad to refer to those 6's and 7's that said 4 woman is hoping to attract. The men who would have no problem committing to said 4/10 woman are invisible to her. I only know one unattractive married woman and the husband always struggled financially Do "decent men" not struggle financially? A lot of ppl struggle financi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:00 AM
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I would think a 4/10 woman could find a compatible man who was similar in attractiveness (looks match) to marry very easily as long as she didn't have a hoe phase and allow Chad to pump and dump her, wasn't fat, and is serious about finding marriage in her early to mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:43 AM
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Men are not rushing to marry a 4/10. Chad is not rushing to marry a 4/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:36 AM
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Yup, it works. And it will continue to work unless women stop being receptive to it and allowing it to work. Don't hate the player hate the game. You cannot be mad at a chess ♟️ player who wins by operating within the rules of the game. He didn't make the rules he just played by them. If you want to play a different game by different rules then so be it. But, as you pointed out, this stuff works. And why does it work? Because women are receptive to it and like this behavior. They just don't like…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:30 PM
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You'd only be attracting emotionally insecure women What's wrong with that? Don't they need loving and sex too? I've been negged online and a few times in real life, but those negs have no bearing on how I see myself, The guy who negged you wasn't very good then. The key is to neg a girl in such a subtle way that she doesn't even identify it as a neg. The guy who attempted to neg you failed because you identified it as a neg. Negging properly is a beautiful work of art, like the Mona Lisa for ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:20 PM
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But then why are women so upset about the proliferation of Red Pill? I just saw a post on here today with a woman saying she's upset because Red Pill stuff works, and she witnessed it firsthand last night. It seems to me that they're mad that men have been documenting their behavior, taking notes, comparing notes, and that we now have a checklist/rulebook by which to "game the system." To me it seems they're mad because the men aren't being honest and aren't being their "authentic self" (which t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 04:03 PM
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A perfect translation from woman to English.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 12:55 PM
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I agree with all that you said actually. But I think women still prefer a "natural" with their lizard brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:41 AM
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The Simp Army makes it so this is not really necessary. Women aren't even the cause of the problems men face in this day and age. Ultimately, simps are the true root of all evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:44 PM
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I just think it's on a subconscious level. Not everything we do stems from rational thought. Some of it is from lizard brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:39 PM
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I never dismiss a woman being raped as anything trivial, just for clarification. But we can let our esteemed hypothetical reading audience, present and future, be the final arbiter of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:32 PM
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I have made no jokes about women being raped or assaulted. If anything it was the opposite. My point was that we SHOULDN'T be trivializing something as serious as rape by calling things that aren't rape rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:25 PM
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No. It's literally not satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:18 PM
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Your point has been noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:16 PM
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So, you’ve heard a few individuals express some stupid ideas. More than a few. The problem is these stupid ideas eventually are codified into law if certain parties get their way. Take feminism for example: an evil, oppressive, vile, hateful group of domestic terrorists. They unfortunately have a lot of power, and have slanted the criminal justice and civil justice system already in favor of women and have brought oppression upon the modern western man. Judging by their previous actions, it's sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:13 PM
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Did you read it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:06 PM
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So you “just know” that women are motivated by hypergamy because that’s just female nature. It's a well observed reality. Most women on this sub won't even argue that point. They unapologetically admit it's their nature. And they should be unapologetic, it is their nature after all. The issue they take with men on this sub calling out this behavior is because they're upset that TRP has finally given the normal man their "playbook" so to speak. Women always kept this nature hidden. But, with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 11:02 PM
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Well I'm not a legal expert. I just know that I've heard rape equated to trivial things (I'm talking about what someone "feelz" is rape or should be rape, not what it legally is). I've heard of women saying a man farting deliberately in an enclosed elevator is "fart rape" because he's violating her bodily autonomy by forcing her to smell it. LMAO 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:30 PM
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Right. I wasnt talking about it in the criminal sense of current law. I was saying I've heard the scenario that I painted called that, meaning put the right (or wrong) woman in the right position and it could potentially get on the law books at some point, because there are those with those opinions. Obviously, I find that to be a ridiculous position.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:18 PM
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I stand by all the points I've made. Male nature, female nature, etc. You asked me what motivates women. Obviously I know that a woman operates on hypergamy and wants to lock down the very best man possible. But I don't know if that's the driving force behind women doing anything and everything they do, because I'm not a woman. For example: we have established that men do everything due to a desire to get laid. So when a man gets up in the morning and brushes his teeth, he brushed his teeth beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:14 PM
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I can't really speak to that, because I don't know exactly a woman's experience. I know things about female nature being different than men's nature and at odds, but also remember women have been oppressed for most of their history, so we haven't been able to witness their true nature until recently when they got their rights. And let's not forget that the reason they were oppressed in the first place was because of men's nature (and the desire for sex)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:57 PM
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So everything in the world is driven by a man’s desire to have sex? Ultimately, when you really think about it. That's why "no fap" is a thing. It means "no masturbation," and is a personal challenge. Men noticed that they had much less drive and motivation to be productive when they were regularly masturbating (with easy access to porn at their fingertips). Because this is unnatural. They weren't letting their horniness build up which would ultimately motivate them to do things. Then where does…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:52 PM
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No, it's true. And I'm not the first to take this position. This was talked about hundreds of years ago by philosophers. Men are very simple creatures at heart. "Belly full, balls empty." If a man has food and sex, he's content in simple conditions. But because of female hypergamy (the desire for women to lock down the best man), a man's world is highly competitive and cutthroat. The high level of competition (to ultimately impress women, for sex, think the peacock and his feathers) leads to goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:44 PM
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Why on earth do you believe any of this? You’re just making shit up and saying that’s how all women feel but we just don’t know it and need you to tell us what we think. Where do you even get that kind of powerful audacity/ignorance combo? I didn't make the rules, I just have to play by them. I'm just a realist, and know that biology is what it is. I'm not upset about it, I'm accepting of it. I’m not sure how to answer your hypothetical because it presupposes slavery and women not being humans T…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:31 PM
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Lolz, exactly. The days of Blue Pill brainwashing are coming to an end. And women HATE this loss of power and control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:14 PM
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Anything that appears to be a 'cheat code' to gain sexual access is the ultimate betrayal (and even worse) to women. Agreed, most definitely. What's interesting is that when it comes to any 'cheat code' or 'trick' a man might perform are all pretty much on par with r@pe in a woman's mind (and plenty of men too). Interesting indeed. I've even heard women equate a man pretending to have more income than he does and then sleeping with a woman to be "r@pe by deception", because they say she wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:06 PM
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But you didn't address what I said. Can you answer my hypothetical about the basement dweller being issued a bangmaid? My point was merely that women don't like TRP by and large, and this is the reason that I believe it is so. Also, when you gave your example of rather being with the guy who had struggled, what you did was frame it (as is typical) from the most advantageous position for you (the woman) and select someone you think you'd be most compatible with in a relationship. I wasn't asking …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:59 PM
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I mean I'm personally Red Pilled myself, not Black. I just feel a lot of the hate for TRP stems ultimately from the fact that women don't like to give away their most valuable asset (sexual access) to undeserving or "lesser men." So they're on guard about making sure they're not being fooled by a former D & D playing Cheeto connessuire. Just like when they hate when a guy lies about his income (which I've seen them try to equate to "rape by deception").
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 05:59 PM
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Right. But who would a woman PREFER, all other things being exactly equal in this hypothetical: A "Chad" who's always naturally been fit and sociable and popular Or a basement dweller who levelled up? I think women prefer the "naturalz" Don't get me wrong, I agree with self improvement and all that. But the motivation of men to self improve often comes from a desire to do well with ladies (sexually). For example, take that basement dweller (non levelled up version) and issue him one standard iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 05:33 PM
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Right, but my point is that guys who like to eat Cheetos, stay fat, neglect their hygiene, live in the basement, and play videogames WONT get laid. That's their "natural state" and who they are. But they want to get laid. So they do all these things for self improvement so they can get laid. But at its core, it's dishonesty, because women want the guys who naturally do all the good stuff and didn't have to learn to do it. Hence the hate for Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 05:06 PM
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Women also associate a man’s hyper-willingness to change his activities/morals to be attractive with inherent dishonesty. I want to like you because I like you, not what you think I like. And this is why I believe women hate Red Pill. They don't want a basement dwelling, obese, video game playing, neckbeard who decided he wanted to get laid so spent the last 3 years getting fit, squaring away his social skills, acquiring "game," getting hobbies/pretending to be a well rounded person, stacking hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:33 PM
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Firstly, when women tell a man to "work on himself," it's not in any way, shape, or form advice being given to help him try to get laid. She's doing it for her own (and the rest of the hive's) convenience. She's removing him from the dating market, like a pawn being taken off the chessboard ♟️. Now said man won't be approaching or bothering women for as long as he's "working on himself," which will hopefully be years (or forever). One less creepy guy to have to worry about. Secondly, let's say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:13 PM
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☝️🗣️ Hear ye, hear ye! This man speaks the truth. Come one, come all, and witness for yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:25 PM
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You've been provided the answers you seek. The Red Pill 💊 is in your hand my friend. No one can make you take it. You'll have to take that step for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:44 PM
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It is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:39 PM
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I already addressed exactly where to find the proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:28 PM
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I read your entire post, but couldn't identify an actual, coherent argument against my points. You may as well have typed "no u" and it would have been a stronger argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:23 PM
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Hey you're the one acting like she's gonna break up with him, not me. Seems pretty relevant. Whether she "breaks up with him" or not is irrelevant, because as I said it's not a measure of success if you can marry a woman. Women are judged on their success by the quality of man they can lock down. Men are judged on their success by the quality of woman they can sleep with while providing nothing (no committment, no money, just showing up dick in hand basically). Ok so you're just a child then I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:15 PM
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I mean she's still gonna marry him lol. Firstly, that's irrelevant to the argument I made. Secondly, if you think that a woman "marrying a man" is a measure of whether he wins, then I have the following to say to you: lolz Maybe your ideas about women are not exactly representative of reality My "ideas" as you call them are merely what are known as "Red Pill truths".... Now, the word "truths" is the operative word you should be focused on. The fact that women operate on preselection is a scienti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:42 PM
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Men don't like Harley Quinn because she's aggressive and kicks ppls asses. Harley Quinn is attractive to men for the following reasons: 1) She's hot 2) She's a total freak (sexually), this is where the love of "crazy girls" stems from 3) She's submissive (to Joker, and will do anything and everything for him) 4) Complete loyalty only for Joker and no one else These are the fantasy attributes that guys find appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:32 PM
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No. "Too nice" is not a downside for men or a turnoff, unlike how it is for women when it comes to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:28 PM
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I think it's actually a woman masquerading as a man. "He" made it a point several times yesterday to point out that "he's a man," yet "he" posts nothing like how a man would post and argue. Said straight guys should make a Grindr account to get all the attention and matches we don't want (implying that a woman's huge amount of unwanted options she has to sift thru to find a good one was in any way equivalent to a straight man going on a gay app).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:14 PM
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Dude I went back and forth with this guy yesterday about some asinine point that he just wanted to argue for the sake of arguing. You'll get nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:02 PM
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Well I've made my point. You don't agree. So I guess we can let our esteemed hypothetical reading audience be the final arbiter and draw their conclusions. I do stand by all points I've made.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:42 PM
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Nobody is born hot (I assume it's by accident that you're implying babies are hot), You would be right to assume that, I thought the point was obvious. Now to address your main points: We are speaking of value, correct? What do men value? Youth and beauty. Youth: every woman will be young at some point in their lives. Beauty: men don't have ridiculous beauty standards and aren't asking women to be hot supermodels. Most men find most young women (18 to 25) who are not fat to be attractive. So aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:36 PM
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How so? They're born with it, they just need to not fuck it up (not get fat). Women are born with everything that men value (youth and beauty / not being fat). I would say it requires maintenance or preventative maintenance.... Unless of course they fuck it up and get fat as a kid or something and then they have work to do. But my point is a woman is born with everything she needs. A man isn't born with muscle on his frame, charisma, money (unless he's born rich), or confidence/competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:13 PM
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That's why you NEVER fall for that trick. You never open up. And IF you open up, you only do so in a very small amount that doesn't make you look vulnerable, and you basically use it to your advantage by flipping it around, open up a small tidbit that will provide her more questions than answers in order to provide even more mystery and wonder. Never listen to what they say and believe it, only believe their actions. And luckily, we have the rule book in front of us. But also, NEVER let them kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:43 AM
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Right. But you're forgetting the part where there ARE men on Tinder who are POTENTIAL matches for said women, as evidenced by the fact that women can and do meet their partners on Tinder (online dating, I'm just using Tinder as generic). There are ZERO potential matches for straight men on Grindr. I don't believe ANY straight man has ever met his partner on Grindr. So that was my point, the two are not comparable. One has a chance of success, while the other doesn't. If I were to be able to pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:44 PM
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I didn't know that. I couldn't tell from the way you were posting. So replace "we" with "women" and the message is the same. Again, it's paraphrasing and summarizing your argument, but you knew that already but just want to argue. Instead of conceding that your "Grindr for men is similar to Tinder/online dating for women" (again, paraphrasing for brevity) argument is ridiculous, you would rather argue on technicalities on "I didn't say exactly those words"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:27 PM
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Right, I was obviously paraphrasing. 🙄 But you knew that already.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:23 PM
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Here's your exact quote: "A ton of options that aren't compatible isn't better than no options at all. If you don't believe me, sign up for Grindr and you'll have more options and attention than you know what to do with." Now let's break it down and analyze it. "A ton of options that you aren't compatible with... (here you are speaking to the straight female struggle on dating apps of having so many unsuitable / low quality matches).... "isn't better than no options at all.... (speaking to the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:13 PM
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Game, set, match. 🗣️ Pack it up boys! We're done here! This is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:01 PM
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They do. I never stated they don't. I said they don't on Grindr, and how "just go on that gay app, it's basically what we experience" was a ridiculous argument. You know it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:50 PM
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She can do as she likes. My only point was she has a chance of success, unlike your "go on Grindr" argument. Straight men have a 0% chance of success on Grindr. Straight women have a non zero chance of success on Tinder, because their preferred sex (men) are on there.. a non zero chance of success is infinitely more than a zero chance. Also, many women have success and meet their partner on online dating, so it's not as impossible and bleak as you make it seem. If you can't see the world of diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:48 PM
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Do you think it would be possible for men to see it a different way? Maybe that's where some of the current issues with dating arise, that men try to follow a formula and don't understand when it doesn't work Possibly. But I think we just think differently. And the formula DOES work. In fact, this is a reason women tend to hate Red Pill type of stuff. A man just "being himself," would probably never get women. You see, men are very simple creatures. The reason we have drive to maximize our incom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:34 PM
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That's a ridiculous argument, and nothing at all like the situation at hand. Please come with actually similar analogies. In case you don't understand why this analogy is ridiculous, in your chocolate analogy, you would have to just eat and hope you're not poisoned. On a dating app, you can SEE the man and if you like him or not. So yeah your chocolate analogy would work if all the poison chocolates were labelled and all you had to do was merely pluck the lone and safe to eat chocolate. Come on …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:14 PM
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I think a better analogy would be what's better, looking for a needle in a haystack (woman seeking a man she likes on Tinder) vs looking for a needle that doesn't exist in a haystack (straight men looking on Grindr). In the first example, the needle is there, even if hard to find. In the second example, there is 0 chance of success. Your Grindr argument has exactly 0 strength or credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:10 PM
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No it's not. It's a world of difference. If you said 98% and 99% is a negligible difference I would agree with you. But 100% incompatible matches means he has 0 compatible matches. And there's a world of difference between 0 and any non zero number.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:06 PM
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No problem. And yes, you're right, men and women do want similar things. Men value other things besides sex, such as companionship, loyalty, respect, etc. But as I said, sex is the primary driving force for a man. Here's the thing though, a woman's willingness to "give" sex to a man is how he feels loved, respected, appreciated, etc. Also, a difference between men and women is how we tend to approach and view attaining these things. For example, men approach attaining sex like a math problem. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:32 PM
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Firstly, I apologize I had edited my comment to add further details in my example. Please see that. And now to respond to your comment: if nerdy hot girl is a trope then she's in demand. Yes, but in this specific example the point is other men don't notice her. And the one guy does, and every guy can relate because he struck gold. So girls that aren't in demand but are hot are in demand (for the guy that finds her) If any man or woman is actively rejected from the dating circle then something is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:47 PM
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So men will be interested in a woman that other men actively don't want to date? That's correct. It's actually ideal. It's even a trope, the nerdy girl who's hot (to him, because he notices but no one else does). It's entirely possible for the most popular guy in school to see a geeky D & D girl and get with her because no one else noticed that she's actually a total cutie. You NEVER see the reverse. You never see the most popular cheerleader in school pick out and date the nerdy guy who all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:42 AM
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I mean don't get me wrong, I don't like having to play these silly little games and mind tricks. It would be better if everyone could just "be themselves" and operate normally. But unfortunately I don't make the rules so I have to play by them... But also one of the rules is NEVER let them know that you know the rules lol, because they only want a man that "naturally" adheres to the rules, not one who learned the rules and plays by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:33 AM
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I'm relaxed 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:18 AM
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But they don't want you to join hobbies in order to meet women either. They do NOT like men seeking out opportunities for women. They operate on "feelz" and want you to just naturally and organically run into a woman (but don't you dare have been looking for one). See, men are logical and pragmatic. We approach situations like a math problem. A man thinks: "I want to find a woman that meets x, y, and z requirements, so I'm going to do a, b, and c in order to maximize my odds." Women HATE this me…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:52 AM
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Bro, you done goof'd. Here's why: women operate on preselection (unlike men). She thought you had "30 matches" which means she thought you had "several options, including her, and you picked her out of all the many options available." You bursted her bubble. No woman wants to hear what you just told her. You should have let her continue to think she's the lucky one for you (the prize) picking her. Of course I don't know your exact situation or any further details about your relationship. But bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:10 AM
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Good topic OP! 👍 For me, I'm not going to 100% chance of death sacrifice my life for a random person, as my duty is to remain alive and protect those I love. I will RISK my life to defend a person who needs help tho. Now if you fall into a category of ppl that I love, then I will give my life to protect you. It's done for 2 reasons: the love I have for the person, and also (selfishly) my own honor and reputation. Living my life labelled as a "coward" is something I could not deal with. Finally, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:38 PM
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Oh and I forgot to address your last points. Firstly, I don't have studies, I'm just speaking from my perspective as a man. But I think any man being honest will tell you this same thing. However, don't be discouraged. I'm not saying a man only cares about the fact that you have a vagina. I'm saying that men have a biological imperative to want to be able to fulfill their sexual desires (regularly, as testosterone keeps a man in an ever "horny" state until release, and then it starts all over ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:27 PM
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Thank you for the thorough response! No problem. I see what you're saying about the number one criteria for a relationship with a straight man is that his partner is a woman, but the same could be said for straight women. If the logic is that the fact that your partner is of the sex you're attracted to means sex (the act) is the number one criteria for a relationship then how does that not apply to women as well? Yes, of course. My point was that a romantic relationship is, first and foremost, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:21 PM

First and foremost men and women aren't the same and value different things. A romantic relationship between a man and woman is, primarily, and first and foremost, a sexual relationship. This is why heterosexual men when seeking a partner first and foremost exclude based upon sex, which is why all men are excluded as potential partners off the bat first, because men cannot provide what heterosexual men are looking for, which is sex with a woman. Sure there are other things that go into selecting…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:00 PM

This makes sense ngl. Someone with some sense I see. It's refreshing to not just have someone respond to my points with the equivalent of "no u"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:00 PM
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The difference is that men treat "wifey material" better than the women they just fuck... They commit to wifey material. Women treat "BF/Husband material" worse than they treated Chad, because Chad got full entry for free, while husband material guy has to "pay full price." Therein lies the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:02 PM
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Lots of women have sex with, date, and marry fat and short men. ... AFTER chasing, sleeping with, & pining after Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:25 AM
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Ok. Well I hope it works out for you. I don't know the details of it but a lot of stuff women struggle with can be fixed (if the desire to and the effort for it is put in). Same for men too. Red Pill heavily pushes self improvement, and I know it's a "manosphere" thing, but it can apply to women too (and there's even a Red Pill Women sub)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:53 AM
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accuses her of only going for Chaaaaad What man would do this irl? Have you seen a man call a woman a "Chad Chaser" or even mention Chad irl? Seems more like an online thing when we are speaking in generalizations and trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:48 AM
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Have you identified what the reason(s) for that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:40 AM
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We'll laugh about it together later. Doesn't matter, had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 02:57 AM
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I've done it. I think it's weird "Watch what they do, not what they say."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 02:06 AM
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Rule # 1) Don't be fat; Rule # 2) Don't not be not fat
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:02 PM
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Most women on here will heavily imply, if not outright state, that the young woman approaching the older man is either a gold digger, has some mental health issues, or doesn't have the agency to know what she's doing and is perpetuating her own abuse at the hands of this ruthless pedophile (the older man). They would imply a sort of Stockholm Syndrome and make her out to be the victim anyway, regardless of if she initiated or not. At least that's the vibe I've gotten from a lot of women on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:05 AM
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Right. But this is a sub that heavily talks about modern dating issues. When I read the OP, I thought it obvious the implications he was getting at. This is a place of honesty so that we can all learn. Ultimately, men want sex from women. This is reality. So OP was clearly asking about what is the appropriate way to engage with unknown women, since the narrative is not to talk to them (because you're a stranger). Then in this sub comment thread, another poster made a comment about meeting and or…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 11:18 PM
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Ok. But he's asking how to get with women sexually/romantically. Women are saying "don't cold approach" but simultaneously saying "make organic friendships, but don't have ulterior motives of sex and just want to put your dick in us!" He's trying to figure out what is the acceptable way to approach a woman that he wants to put his dick in?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:14 PM
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Forget about what some women think you should or shouldn't do. Approach them and talk to them anyway. You have every right to. They have every right to be upset, but who cares? You have to go for what you want in life. You could miss out on a great girl who did want you to approach trying to appease the ones who aren't interested in you and who you'll never see again. So I say forget what they think you should or shouldn't do. Men are gonna keep approaching. If they don't like it they can litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:55 PM
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In the real world the beauty comes with youth. It's both youth and beauty, but beauty is superior to youth. For example, a chick who's unattractive at 23 is probably going to be still unattractive at 35 (but even worse). Likewise, a chick who is 35 and smoking hot, was probably even more smoking hot at 23. Exceptions exist of course but I'm generalizing. But I would say beauty comes first, then youth. Youth also factors into longevity. For example, let's say I meet a hot 40 year old. How much lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 05:03 AM
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Because B looks 40 and A looks 23. Allow me to present the following formula for hypotheticals: Assuming all else is exactly even.... Woman who is 23 and looks 23 > woman who's 40 and looks 23 > woman who's 23 and looks 40 Out of those 3 options, I didn't get the first one and had to choose from the 2nd and 3rd. So I chose the 2nd because it's superior to the 3rd. The actual age number is not entirely relevant. If we lived in a world with 1000 year old vampire immortals, for example, I would dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:57 AM
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If I had to pick, I'll take A.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:47 AM
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She asked for the studies, you were kind enough to link them.... And yet, I hear crickets chirping 🦗🦗🦗 No response from OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 01:35 AM
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Definition of "mature," or "sexually mature?" If you say mature, then you've moved the goalposts. If you say "sexually mature" then take it up with the scientific community and the dictionaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:41 PM
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We went over this. "Sexually mature" means the ability of an organism to reproduce. It does not mean "sexually experienced" or whatever else you're trying to make it mean. Sexually mature is a scientific term. A female who can get pregnant is sexually mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:14 PM
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That's another argument entirely. Words have meanings. An 18 year old is both sexually mature and legal. Those are actual facts (both of them). One cannot ever be changed (biological) and one is a social construct with an arbitrary number which can be changed (legal). But as it stands, my statement is true. On an 18 year old woman's birthday she is both sexually mature and legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:28 PM
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You're defining the term incorrectly. Straight from Wiktionary: sexual maturity is the capability of an organism to reproduce. Can an 18 year old reproduce? Yes. Then she's sexually mature. That is what the term means. So do you now concede that an 18 year old is both legal and sexually mature? Or do you still want to disagree just because?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:18 PM
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My question still stands though. We are not discussing minors, but legal adults, correct? School is irrelevant. There are 15 year olds in college and 40 year olds doing remedial high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:32 PM
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Who said anything about minors? I didn't see that anywhere in the OP. I thought she stated "18" and this entire topic was about adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:29 PM
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That's not exactly relevant to my argument. However I do agree things get taken to the extremes on this sub. Every 18 year old isn't hot, and every 40 year old isn't revolting. There are hot 40 year olds and revolting 18 year olds. I think often the point made with that is that all things being equal (exactly), most men prefer youth. It is one of many factors, however. I would rather sleep with a 🔥 hot 40 year old (for example) than an unattractive and obese 18 year old. So none of any of this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:22 PM
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Did Chad have to pay? There lies your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:11 PM
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By definition, you are incorrect. If someone "barely" meets the standard, they meet it nonetheless. The term is "barely LEGAL." Legal is the key term here, and barely is merely a descriptive (adjective) of the term. So being sexually attracted to, and even having sex with, an 18 year old WOMAN (on her birthday) is just as legal as having sex with a 40 year old woman. We as a society have decided that that is the age of adulthood, and as such, legal is legal. There is no "more legal" or "less leg…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:02 PM
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And yet you addressed none of my points and answered none of my questions. A fine rebuttal 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:54 PM
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☝️ I disagree that that's a flaw in my argument, as 16 or 14 isn't currently legal. My argument as it stands, not only has the scientific and biological high ground, but also is on the correct side of what's currently considered the moral or legal high ground. So no flaw can be found in my argument. What you're attempting to do is shift my position a few years to the left, which will put me on the wrong side of what's considered the current moral/legal high ground in order to discredit my positi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:41 PM
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I can't presume what men may or may not do in a hypothetical, that's why I answered "probably." But my initial argument was about men being attracted to legal, biologically/sexually mature adults. You're wanting to straw man it to make it about something that's not currently legal and is heavily frowned upon. This is a disingenuous tactic. First, how about you address and find flaw in my initial argument. If and when we've hashed that out, then we can move on to your hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:30 PM
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My argument was that 18 year olds are fully sexually mature. Let's not straw man this into something that it's not. My point stands that 18 year old WOMEN are fully sexually mature and science and biology are on my side. Men being attracted to these fully sexually mature adult, female homo sapiens is natural and normal. That's my argument. So just to recap: My side: science and biology Your side: ick and feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:11 PM
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How does that make the argument null? You could be a mother already at 18 and still grow 2 inches. Height is not a measure of sexual maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:05 PM
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Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:57 PM
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My thoughts exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:54 PM
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Idk, you tell me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:42 PM
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Exactly. I was 18 fighting a war in a foreign country already. Certainly not a boy, I was grown.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:25 PM
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☝️ I disagree. All that is subjective to the individual. You have women who are 25 who look 16. Is being attracted to that grown 25 year old woman "wrong?" What about women that are 18 and look 25? What about women who never mature and are 40 years old still "acting like children?" It's all subjective and varies by individual. The only objective standard is biology. Biology and science doesn't care what society says or thinks, it tells things as it is. And I contend there's nothing wrong with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 01:17 PM
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Firstly, LOL @ "child" Secondly...Well, I was gonna make a second point and follow up question, but we are stuck at square one if you think 18 is a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:49 PM
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Time is arbitrary when it comes to attraction. If you took a beautiful 18 year old woman's picture and showed it to a man, not knowing the age of said woman, or better yet, telling him that she's 23, he would find her sexually attractive. If you later revealed the truth and said "sorry, we lied, she's really only 18," his attraction would not suddenly change. He still finds that exact same woman in the picture just as sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:55 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:50 AM
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Science disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:49 AM
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I guess the overwhelming majority are "unwell and need help" in your opinion. This cannot merely be dismissed as some small deviant subsection of men. The overwhelming majority of men find sexually mature women attractive, so I would argue it's normal and anyone who doesn't is an outlier. Do you have a bf/husband? If I had to bet my life I would bet he finds them attractive. And if he's told you otherwise I would bet my life that he's lied to you because men know our natural biology is "cringe" …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:48 AM
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So being biologically attracted to a fully sexually mature woman is "gross" to you? Just the mere attraction, correct? Fine. I guess literally 99.9% of (straight) men are gross to you. I personally don't think the comparison is relative as one is a behavior that only some women partake in (being promiscous) and one is an innate biological attraction. But if 99.9% of men are gross to you so be it. Nothing can be changed because men can't just stop being attracted. You should know this. Unless you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:36 AM
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A respectable stance 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:33 AM
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🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 01:31 AM
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👍 couldn't have said it better myself. The woman who sleeps around treats the fuckbois BETTER than her husband who commits to her, while the man who's pumping and dumping hookups is treating those hookups worse and his wife better. There lies the difference. We are not the same (men and women).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:34 AM
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Post nut clarity is a thing. Also, sometimes the "juice isn't worth the squeeze," meaning the effort required isn't worth the continual access to sex. For example, I've had to stop sleeping with a chick who was hot and a freak because she was "crazy." We would have great sex but always end up fighting about something stupid after (I honestly now think the fighting thing got her off). And that's not my get down, so I realized a nut here and there isn't worth the headache. So I believe there can d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:21 AM
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Well thank you for your answer. I believe TRP doesn't really promote anything except awareness. It provides insight into female nature that may not necessarily be politically correct or socially acceptable to discuss (which is why it tends to be discussed online mainly, and less so in person). I see it as a tool. For example, a car is a tool. I can do nothing with it and let it rust in my driveway. I can utilize it in a productive manner to haul my literal ass where I need to go. Or I can run th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:10 AM
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The red pill offers proactive solutions that you can use to overcome your issues even if they are unethical considering TRP pushes the dark arts as its main method. Can you provide an example or 2 of what you think about TRP is unethical?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 09:53 PM
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So once a woman has sex, she is FOREVER governed by different rules??? Now you're getting it. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:48 PM
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What bothers me is you women giving it up freely to Chad , Pookie and Ray Ray Hey hey hey! Don't forget about Tyrone!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 08:15 PM
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No problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 12:27 AM
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Since you said nothing sexual: I wouldn't say I have any specific things that I like romantically. Just in general, a woman who shows a lot of interest/effort is a big plus in the romance department. For example, I had a woman who would make collages (pics or videos) with us in them. I had another who surprised me by writing and performing a song all about me. So it can be anything really, whatever the woman's style or comfort level is in that regard, but anything that shows genuine caring or in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 10:53 PM
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Good suggestion. Yes I'll add that too. And yes I'll definitely be posting it again soon as I'm able to. I appealed but I'm not holding my breath on winning the appeal. But I'm for sure gonna get this post in at some point, and yes I'll add in v count lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 03:38 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:56 PM
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This is a D-count thread
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:50 PM
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Absolutely. And thanks for the feedback. It's now been proven with numbers and correct definitions that men who hold this position are not hypocrites. I'm also hoping to see use of the term "d-count" more often in this sub, if only for better clarification and more accurate communication. I will admit I didn't coin the term tho, I believe you did in another comment elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:49 PM
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It's absolutely relative. In my opinion it's better to be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:24 AM
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Absolutely. I was just thinking about that actually. An entire post needs to be done in fact to get this change out there because "n-count" doesn't accurately reflect the issue at hand here, yet it's all this sub uses. Hear ye, hear ye: ☝️ I hereby proclaim that "D-Count" it is from now on!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:38 AM
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By the definition yes. If her standard is "don't sleep with women," and I haven't met that standard WHILE ☝️ she has met it, then no she wouldn't be a hypocrite. Luckily for men that tends to not be a standard women hold, but they're free to hold it without being hypocritical. Women in fact hold the same standard we do and frown upon sleeping with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:34 AM
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That's true. They don't want someone masquerading as good genes, they would want a "natural."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:31 AM
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☝️ I disagree. And you haven't pointed out any flaw in my argument. Your main point was literally: "Yes they are." If you can point out a logical inconsistency in my argument I'll be happy to reconsider.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:00 AM
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Well said. Ppl need to understand that men and women are different and want different things. Standards, preferences, expectations, and roles in the relationship do not have to be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:29 PM
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Relevant detail because you're holding yourself to a different standard. Absolutely not. I would never look down upon someone for something I do myself. I didn't choose my attraction or hers. I'm merely stating an action which I find to be distasteful (sleeping with men).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:01 PM
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You live up to it because you're not sexually attracted to men. Irrelevant detail. I live up to it nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:58 PM
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I don't agree. I believe "don't take dicks'' is a completely non-hypocritical standard, because I live up to it. The fact that I'm heterosexual is just a detail, a cause for this effect if you will. But from a purely logical and philosophical standpoint, I believe I've demonstrated that it is not hypocritical for men to sleep around with women while expecting women to not sleep around with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:55 PM
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I would want to attain that first position spot, and I'm confident that I could. But, hypothetically, let's say I couldnt. It wouldn't bother me that much because 1) I'm not a woman and 2) we can then talk about bringing a woman into our sex life (3 some) if that's something she feels she is missing and needing. But honestly, I don't see what a woman could do in bed that I'm incapable of doing for her, so I don't think this would be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:51 PM
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But what am I doing that I'm expecting her not to do? I clarified this. My position is I "don't take dicks/sleep with men" and that's what I expect my partner to have not done. I'm not expecting anything different that what I'm doing. If I've slept around with women and I meet a girl who's slept around with women, she will get no negative judgement from me about that, as I'm NOT a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:48 PM
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Absolutely. Woman with n count of 100 women and 0 men might as well be 0 for all I care. Dick count is what we mean, and it's time this sub understands that critical distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:45 PM
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Yup. They're gonna learn the difference even if we have to post it several times lol. And same good to hear from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:41 PM
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Sure if that's her preference. She doesn't need to justify if something puts her off as she can have whatever preference she wants and I won't judge her for it. I merely don't want to be judged for mine and also wanted to point out the fallacy of the hypocrite/double standard argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:34 PM
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Right again friend. Men who demand low n count women while themselves sleeping around are literally not hypocrites. As you said, the standard isn't "body count" it's actually "dick count." So for example, if I sleep around with women and (because I'm straight) I do not sleep around with men, I can hold women to that standard WHILE ☝️ simultaneously not being a hypocrite. My standard was "don't take dicks" (which I myself completely live up to that standard). A woman can sleep with all the women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:29 PM
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That's true. However in a world where everyone looked like Chad, women would weigh the other factors more heavily. Women want men that are better than other men. So hypothetically if all men were attractive, then status and money would be how they select. Same for height. 6 feet isn't some magical number. It represents something that most men aren't (only a small percentage of men are over 6 feet). So hypothetically, if all men were suddenly 6 feet minimum, then 6 feet would no longer be attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:20 PM
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Yeah they are amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:57 AM
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I just want to say the mighty dog has earned his place at man's side and lives up to his namesake as "man's best friend." Shout out to all the dogs out there because they're awesome. 🐶 🐕 Edit to add: Honorable mention: the mighty horse 🐴 🐎 But dog is still undisputed champ of course
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:48 AM
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I visited London a couple years ago to see my aunt. I noticed that as well. I literally even commented to her that "all the women are slim and attractive over here! What's going on?" Although I've been told that the UK has a high obesity rate as well, but I didn't see it. I know it's anecdotal, but it was just my experience. There was definitely a difference between what I saw there and what I see over here in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:06 AM
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I would say that the most important thing is being the absolute best version of yourself that you can be. This applies to all aspects of your life, such as fitness, career/finances, education, hobbies, sex life/romance, health, etc... As being well rounded is key. As far as who you should "listen to..." I think it's important to be aware and up to date on current events: politics, world events, local & national events, economy/stock market, etc, and then view and read a variety of different medi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:37 PM
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Right. But no "Redpilled guys" (her brothers) would ever recommend or endorse a relationship like that because they (being Redpilled and knowing the truth and how shit really is) would understand that that relationship would be doomed to fail... They would know that their sister would never be happy, that attraction can't be negotiated, and that she would in all likelihood cheat on him herself (or at the least leave him for someone better due to hypergamy and dissatisfaction). So you see, I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 04:13 AM
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Why would "her Redpill brothers" be encouraging her to date an obese, unattractive, nerdy, loser neckbeard? Do you know what Redpill is? Redpill is a concept of harsh truths of the way the world really works in regards to dating dynamics between men and women. It is all about true nature and it cares not for political correctness or whether said information is socially acceptable. Once men become "Redpilled" (aware, informed, knowledgeable) they can choose to use this newly aquired knowledge to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:48 AM
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Yes it would be fine. Her sleeping with 100 women doesn't cause me to frown upon her actions or choices in any way. It's only when other dicks are involved that that happens. To me, this hypothetical woman would have n count of 1 with an asterisk by it (n=1*), but an effective n count of 1 nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 05:38 PM
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That sick bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:47 PM
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It's always like talking to a wall with this argument lol. They don't understand the action is "having a dick inserted into you." I don't partake in this action, as such, I frown upon those that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:28 PM
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No it's not. I just explained it. If I, as a man, sleep around with women, I would be a hypocrite for frowning upon the exact same action that I do (another man sleeping around with women). However, I frown upon women sleeping around with men (a completely different scenario, and an action I don't do, as I'm not a woman and don't sleep with men). Therefore it's not hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:19 PM
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I agree with your whole argument. I've used this argument myself several times on here about how men can sleep around and still frown upon women sleeping around and it's literally not hypocritical because we aren't the same and it's not the same thing.... But it always falls upon deaf ears. Being a hypocrite, for example, would be a man sleeping around and then shaming other men for sleeping around. Frowning upon the exact action he does. Women sleeping around is a totally different scenario. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:55 PM
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Alpha play...... Beta pay $$$ Alpha smash..... Beta cash $$$
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:03 AM
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You realise that even if you find your dream woman who is willing to be submissive and a trad wife… she will expect a traditional husband. The financial burden will be entirely on you What's wrong with that? I have no problem at all filling the traditional male role and everything it entails for a woman who fills the traditional female role with everything it entails. I would expect women to pay half and split bills and all that only when dating in the West / Westernized women, because they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 09:27 PM
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No, it comes up frequently on this sub and I see women commenting about it all the time. My source for this information is women, not any "eChO cHaMbEr"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 04:42 PM
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Ok so my example applies pretty well then. Truth be told I used a lot of my own experiences in the example as well. I changed some details about ages and n counts, but it reflects well on my own experience. And as far as your preference for low n count for marriage / commitment, all I can say is fair enough. If that's what your standard is that's what your standard is. But I would question the practicality of it. You've been with someone (exclusively) for 15 years, yet you say you won't "commit"…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 04:15 PM
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Right, but who says she's gonna be vanilla and who says he's promiscous? It's all relative. A woman can be a virgin and be a freak after marriage with her husband (I've experienced it). And a man can have a high n count relative to her and not be promiscous. Take the following example: A woman has a high libido, but she's not comfortable sleeping with random men and/or religious or moral reasons keep her from doing this. But she definitely plans to explore her sexuality once she's married / comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 03:54 PM
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I asked you about the appeal of being a woman's first and only, and you said yes, you see the appeal. Whether the man has 0 or 100 n count that appeal is still there. The appeal doesn't go away just because he racks up a body count.... Just as the appeal / attraction to fit men doesn't go away as a woman gains weight and becomes overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 03:25 PM
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Right. Fair enough, I get your point. But also keep in mind that ppl can have preferences that they themselves don't meet. An overweight woman can have a standard that she only dates fit men. Even though she herself is not fit, if she finds a man that doesn't care about that and say, for example, is attracted to BBWs, then that can work. There's nothing wrong with that. Just as there's nothing wrong with a man having a higher n count and getting with a woman who has a lower one, if that's someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 03:11 PM
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Also I wanted to mention something since you made a comment about "purity culture" being something you're against. A man can simultaneously hold the view that 4 or 5 or 10 partners is not a bad thing, but at the same time that 0 or 1 is better. I don't think a man thinking highly of a woman with a low n count is something bad. What I'm saying is that a man can respect a woman's right to do as she wants, but at the same time can you not see the appeal of a hypothetical scenario where a man marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:50 PM
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Whatever works for you is what works for you. And you can call it whatever you want (FWB, BF/GF, etc) but at the end of the day you're seeing one man and sleeping with one man for the past 15 years. Not very abnormal. Again, terms or whatever you wanna call it notwithstanding..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:39 PM
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This only applies to people who think having multiple men or women is ethically wrong, I'm not saying it's ethically wrong. What I'm saying is that given the context of your situation (being with someone for a long time), having an n count of 1 means you haven't cheated or slept with anyone else (that's loyalty, commitment, and good moral character). Obviously this is a snapshot of what this number reflects. You could be an ax murderer in your free time and your moral character would no longer b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:30 PM
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You would absolutely not need to lie to add to your n count. An n count of 1 is absolutely normal considering that you've been with someone for so long. Adding to your n count would provide no advantage whatsoever, and if anything would take away from your advantage you already have, because your current n count shows restraint, loyalty, and good moral character. So yeah, absolutely nothing to gain from increasing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:15 PM
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These ppl are outta their minds OP. You do you. My advice would be not to monitor online communication, because if you have to do that you have no trust, and without trust you have nothing. And I wouldn't frame it as you being "uncomfortable" about it, because that frames it as your issue or "iNsEcURiTy." This is an issue with HER behavior, not you. She's young. She doesn't necessarily know any better. I've been there myself with having to teach a young girl what is and is not acceptable behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:39 AM
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Exactly. Now all of a sudden they're just wanting to talk to men that they're not attracted to / don't want to fuck? We hear all the time how women DON'T want to talk to or interact with men they have no interest in. But now all of a sudden it's completely innocent and "being social?" I'm not buying it. It's completely inappropriate is what it is, and completely disrespectful to OP. Granted, I'm not a fan of monitoring online communication, as there must be trust in a relationship. But this beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:34 AM
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It’s an unreasonable request to make But that's entirely subjective. What's reasonable for one is unreasonable for another. It’s an attempt to blame other people for your own psychological issues. I don't see it as blaming. A man doesn't want his woman entertaining random fuckbois sliding into her DMs. She then has a choice to make: she can see that his request IS reasonable, as it's coming from a place of what's best for their relationship .... Or, she can decide entertaining said fuckbois is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:21 AM
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But he's not doing it behind the barrel of a gun is he? It's implied that "I'm gonna need you to stop doing xyz IF YOU WANT TO BE WITH ME." It's still her choice, and no one is being forced. OP not wanting his girl to talk to random men who want to fuck her is within his rights to have that as a standard that he won't compromise on IF she wants to remain his girl. Just as she can have the same standard. Just as ppl in a relationship "demand" faithfulness and that their partner not sleep with any…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:39 AM
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What would you like to see women do better with? What women get from men is: - don’t be fat - don’t have a high n count - but also don’t wait to long to have sex - be submissive - but also approach men, don’t make them come to you - don’t have lofty career ambitions because you hit a wall of worthiness when you turn 30 so you better lock that guy down while you’re at peak value and fertility - but also don’t be one of those gold diggers who expects the guy to always pay for everything That's a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:35 PM
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Marriage is an old tradition / concept. So it's your position, that men throughout history have married without sex being the primary reason? Also, I have buddies of mine that I love. Why don't men get married to other men they love? Because it's not just about love, it's about romantic love, which has to do with attraction (sexual).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 03:11 PM
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Nothing is so special about me. I'm just speaking from my perspective. I'm not saying "every woman should only ever want to sleep with me," what I am saying is "I don't like it when my woman has slept with other men" (because they're not me). Hope that clarifies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:14 AM
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This should be top comment. It's short, but much wisdom in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 02:19 AM
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Yes. And I think I know where you're gonna go with this. If you're gonna point out my hypocrisy, I don't believe it's hypocritical because men and women aren't the same. Me having slept with women and not wanting a woman to have slept with men is not hypocritical in my opinion because the actions aren't the same. I WOULD be a hypocrite for sleeping with women and then shaming other men for doing the same, as I would be shaming actions of a man when I did the exact same thing. So you see, I can j…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:17 PM
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I didn't say she would. I said if I'M interested in a girl I don't want other men to have been with her. So sex with other men is disgusting (for me). That's why virginity is prized, because no other man has been with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:45 PM
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Cool story bro. I wish you happiness in your marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:30 PM
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Right. But men get married to have access to sex. So if sex isn't an obligation, then there are no (relevant/worthwhile) obligations in marriage because marriage is primarily, first and foremost, a sexual contract/arrangement. This is why straight men don't marry other men, because the whole basis is sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:24 PM
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I see your point. But I also gave you an example of a non legal sense (island with no laws). The "law" and society as a whole is not natural, just a man made construct. So you can be owed in a moral sense and have the right to enforce it on your own (in the absence of any laws existing). But I do see your point. I'm actually old school. I believe in marriage for example parties do owe each other things (but there should also be recourses for things owed but not given). But since we live in a mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:21 PM
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I think if I'm "owed" something I should have the ability to make myself whole again otherwise my rights are being violated (I shouldn't HAVE to accept being "owed" and not being paid what I'm owed). In a civilized society with laws, you bring a claim in court through the government (who has a monopoly on violence and can compell a person to pay what's owed). In anarchy, or the "law of the jungle" so to speak, for example on a desert island that no country owns and where there's no law, I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:52 PM
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Exactly. Marriage is a contract for no obligation for the woman with all risk to the man. Men don't get married for the "tax benefits" or whatever nonsense. Men have always married primarily to have access to sex on tap like a faucet. Now with no expectation of sex, marriage is literally outdated and no man should ever do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:26 PM
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I guess its semantics. Because I would argue that if a debt isn't legally recognized (as in no recourse to collect) then it's not really a "debt." I do think lying is morally wrong. But men lie and women lie, and they both play each other so some ppl have their guard up and will burn another person first instead of risking getting burned. It was just weird to me because I've never heard a feminist speak about sex being "owed," but I understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:23 PM
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Absolutely, and the welfare / daddy government cuck state.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:14 PM
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If they did happen to promise it, they'd owe it, Hold on a sec.... As a feminist, you're saying that if a woman promises a man sex, then she owes him sex? "Owing" implies that there's a debt to be paid in order to make the other party whole, and that it's morally wrong to withhold what you owe. A creditor (the one owed) is justified in taking actions against the debtor to recoup what's owed. Since a man "owed sex" has no moral or legal recourse to recoup debt owed, then I would argue that regard…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:13 PM
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Agreed. This new age "marriage but with zero obligations" is simp/sucker shit for real. I don't care how politically incorrect this opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:05 PM
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Right. I'm not losing sleep over thinking about women I don't even know fucking their husbands/boyfriends/ONS. I was speaking in context of a woman I'm personally interested in. Women can do whatever they want, they're not objects of course. But as a man, I prefer low n count women because I don't prefer other men having slept with her. This is a common preference among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 12:43 PM
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I make it about myself when it comes to assessing something for me, yes. Do you not take into account what you like or want when analyzing something that will affect you? Men don't (generally) like women (that they're interested in) sleeping with other men. This is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 12:32 PM
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Again very generalized statement. No, I don't make "everything" about me. I take into account what I want and don't want, like and don't like, when assessing a situation that involves me (such as a relationship, for example). I think everyone does this. Please stop with the "gotcha" type general questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 12:28 PM
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That's a very general question. I'm just a regular man, not better than anyone else. I'm merely speaking from my perspective in regards to this specific topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 12:24 PM
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I don't understand the comment. And I don't complain about not having sex. But if you were speaking hypothetical "you" instead of personal "you," I still don't understand, maybe you can clarify. Men wouldn't go "Eww" when I don't have sex. They would go "Eww" when I DO, because to them I'm a man who isn't them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:45 AM
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No..... A woman having sex with me isn't disgusting to me (but it is to other men). Having it with other men is (to me). So my point was a woman having sex with any man except me is disgusting. And you're correct, lesbian sex isn't. It's only disgusting (for me) when there's another dick involved that isn't mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:41 AM
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According to many men, sex is disgusting: this is why they want a low ncount women I don't think this is true at all. Sex isn't disgusting. Sex WITH OTHER MEN is disgusting. Important distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:37 AM
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Grown women read them. There's plenty of women in their 20's and 30's who read them. ACOTAR in fact is more mature than TOG and even though these are classified as "Young Adult," they're popular with women, not just teenage girls. And regardless, if it was exploitive or pedophilic or anything women wouldn't be eating this fiction up. Anyway I'm planning to do a post on this exact topic soon so keep an eye out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:38 PM
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Also let's not forget that when it's 1000 year old vampire/immortal and he's with an 18 year old girl, they don't think it's icky or wrong because of a "pOwEr DiFfErEnTiAl." Same thing in other beloved female book series, like ACOTAR and Throne of Glass and others. In both series the 18 and 19 year old female protagonists end up getting with 500+ and 300+ year old immortals and there's nothing icky or wrong with it because the guys are "hawt" and don't look old.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:05 PM
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I believe men and women are different and have different roles and responsibilities and expectations. I don't believe in oppression of anyone. But I do acknowledge reality and I don't apologize for it or live in a fantasy bubble that isn't true. The first step to being serious about anything is acknowledging reality. This is a debate sub for the opposite sexes. This is not something that consumes my life of time, but it's something interesting. So if I take an interest in a topic, I'll coment as…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:31 AM
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I'm all about making the world a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:24 AM
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I mean whatever works for you or anyone else more power to them. If that's blue pill or whatever you believe. I was red pill before red pill existed. My views could absolutely be classified as sexist, misogynistic, and not politically correct. I also believe that I'm correct (otherwise I wouldn't subscribe to these views).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:14 AM
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Well also keep in mind the majority opinion isn't exactly politically correct. It's considered taboo, sexist, and oppressive to women. So that's why it may not be discussed as much irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:08 AM
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I mean, yeah it was an impossible hypothetical to make a point. And all men aren't the same also, there's outliers for everything. What's preferable to one can be not preferable to another. I'm just speaking from what I believe to be the majority opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:02 AM
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So men sleeping with each other is fine, but women sleeping with each other isn't? No. Men sleeping with women doesn't cause a man to lose value. Women sleeping with men, the women lose value. Women sleeping with each other no value lost. Men sleeping with men value lost. So you see, anytime a dick is involved, it causes a value reduction in whoever it penetrates. Sex isn't a solo endeavor, it requires another so the people engaging in an activity that requires both of them to occur Correct are …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:57 AM
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The people who think think differently of men who have many partners and women who have many partners are irrational and hypocritical. No. Hypocritical would be for a man to sleep around and then shame another man for doing the exact same thing. In these situations, the same thing is happening (a man having sex) yet one man is shaming another for something he's doing. Completely hypocritical. . Now if you were to take a woman and put her in the situation, that same man sleeping around wouldn't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 03:15 AM
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Men and women aren't the same tho. Men will never view sex as a completely equal exchange. If a man has sex with 4 women at once no one is going to think less of him. A woman gets a train of 4 guys run in her, her reputation will suffer. Why? Because we are not the same. And yes, ultimately it comes down to preferences. Men have preferences for chaste women, but we don't frown upon men sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 02:54 AM
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Well said 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 02:09 AM
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True. That does happen a lot. But attraction can't be negotiated. I get that. I don't think ppl should criticize anyone's preferences. A woman can be a height queen and a man can want an 18 year old chaste virgin who only want to be his slut. But what we shouldn't do is criticize ones preference and think our preference is above criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:57 AM
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I guess by definition we would have to establish whether promiscuity is indeed the "same" behavior for both men and women. Exactly. And of course it's not. Men are never going to view a woman sleeping around in the same light as a man doing it. Hell, women don't even view it the same (hence slut shaming each other). Men and women aren't the same and they never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:50 AM
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Hypocrisy is condemning a behaviour and then participating in the same behaviour. I don't think it's hypocritical to view female promiscuity as bad but male promiscuity as acceptable. Men and women aren't the same. So a man can view a woman doing something as bad and a man doing it acceptable. Just as a woman can view a man having some "gay experimenting phase" as a hard no, even though she experimented with other women. Why? Because men and women aren't the same and we have different expectatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:45 AM
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Well that depends on what the definition of the word "is" is..... Doesn't it? If you can define and truly understand what "is" is, then you'll have all your answers and all the keys to life and happiness. Then, you'll have all the power. In time, you'll become power itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:26 AM
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I'm gonna bow out of this conversation because I feel you're getting upset, and that wasn't my intention. I am very blunt when I speak on this sub, and I will tell it exactly as (I feel) it is. A lot of this stuff is taboo and not politically correct. But in the name of open discourse and men and women being able to learn some harsh truths I feel good can come from information like this. So again, if you disagree that's fine or think I'm crazy that's fine. Ppl can have their own opinions and com…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:20 AM
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I think it's just not politically correct for example in certain cultures to even discuss this because it's viewed as "misogyny" and inequality and trying to control women's bodies. I think Western society suppresses this because even having these (open opinions) is seen as taboo and men are shamed for it. Men get called insecure, sexist, etc. I think the natural state of man and natural desires of men would be considered misogynistic because men and women's desires and wants are at odds. I've s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:15 AM
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Let me clarify some things: Yeah that’s what some guys here have said. And like I said many guys think any dudes who say otherwise are lying. Well SOME may be lying. SOME may be telling the truth. I said it was "very universal," not universal. There's men with fetishes to swing and watch other men have sex with their woman, but I'm speaking on the majority opinion. There's always outliers. But that’s fine, so you think it’s universal, and tons of men are just liars and even want to marry women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 01:08 AM
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No I think it's innate, but the totality of the circumstances must always be considered.. men are more possessive than women. Men are more territorial. But again, it's one of many factors. A woman with a higher body count can be of more value to a man than one with lower body count, because the woman is the sum of her parts (all qualities). But I stand by my lab / woman building simulation example..
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:53 AM
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Ok. If that's your view so be it. Now since we can't agree and have nothing left to discuss, please view the following snowman emoji for your enjoyment: ⛄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:49 AM
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You're jumping to extremes. I never said a woman who loses her virginity is a "worthless slut" or anything like that. I'm merely saying that all things being equal, men prefer chaste women. But body count/chastity is one of many factors and the individual woman will be judge on the totality of the circumstances of course, just like with anything else. But I wanted to point out that it's a pretty universal preference for men. That's all. And as far as morals: men don't view sleeping around for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:45 AM
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That may be true. But my point was men care about it more than women. There is almost no desire for women seeking out virgin men. Why aren't males able to auction off their virginity? Because it's frowned upon for a man to be a virgin (hence incel insults). And IF a woman does prefer a virgin man (due to morals) she prefers that man COULD'VE slept around but chose not to (morals). What women ARENT turned on by are men who CANNOT lose their virginity. For men, we don't care why a woman is a virgi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:38 AM
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I stand by my assertion that most men PREFER chaste women. I'm not saying men only will marry virgins. Obviously the totality of the "package" (everything a woman brings to the table) would be considered. A man might marry a woman with 30 previous sexual partners. But you better believe most men don't PREFER other men to have slept with her. Take 2 identical literally cloned women, the same in every single way in a hypothetical situation. Most men if they had the choice would take the identical …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:32 AM
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Right. But firstly, women should know this already shouldn't they? Women's promiscuity has been frowned upon forever and still is. Secondly, the man would be acting against his own interests. Because he doesn't care about what her value may be (if they don't stay together) for other men. He's acting in his own interests. And also his value rises for adding a body to his count, and for taking the virginity / deflowering a girl. So no man will do this. Men don't look out for other men 20 years int…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:22 AM
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But it is. Because women innately prefer a taller man. Men innately prefer chaste women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:13 AM
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And let’s not pretend short women (or frankly women in general) aren’t shamed and criticized constantly here for preferring tall men to begin with. I accept their preferences. I think most men can accept women's preferences. I'm just using the example to show you that men have preferences too. But when a man expresses his, and women don't like it (preferences for virgins or chaste women for example) women are quick to shout about hypocrisy, but then are blind to their own hypocrisy. Ultimately m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:12 AM
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If before sleeping with a woman you inform her that having sex with you makes her lose any value she has in your eyes But that's not how it works. If I sleep with a woman, she doesn't lose value in my eyes that would be ridiculous. A woman only loses value for every man she sleeps with who isn't me. I feel as if this distinction is sometimes lost on ppl. Example: virgin woman has sex with me. She's still just as valuable (to me) even though she has a body count of 1, because I'M that one. So rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:07 AM
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I think it’s strange for any person with a high n count to expect a partner who has a low n count Because preferences. A woman who's 4' 10" can have a policy that she only dates men above 6 feet. Or let's go less extreme, most women say they want a man at least taller than them. Why? Because men and women aren't the same. She expects her man to be taller than her. There are exceptions of course, I'm speaking in terms of general preferences. For men, they want a woman with a lower body count than…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 11:57 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:54 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:34 AM
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Good for you, do you want a cookie? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 11:27 PM
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Hungry bear. See how easy that was.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:45 PM
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