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1

It’s comments like these that stop me from being blackpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:13 AM
1

Easily is a strong word. If you’re a full provider man you’re probably in the top 10%. So either you’re uncommonly gifted and can throw your weight around as a result, putting you in top 1%, or you work very hard and thus it’s not “easy”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:12 AM
0

I agree with you mostly up to a point. Where I live, a country considered very egalitarian on the surest to most people familiar with it, which is probably similar to OP, this expectation from women has really been on the rise over the past 3 years or so and it’s pretty brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:07 AM
10

Ah, you encountered some ladder climbers. Is your name chaos by any chance? Also, last sentence is confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:09 PM
33

If women are more valuable as you say, and thus can claim a higher level of man than her perceived equal, that’s the same thing as describing hypergamy, you just dressed it up differently
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:20 PM
5

It is me. I am that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:14 PM

Yeah, biggest military force that gets trounced when any country of decent size is willing to call its bluff. The US cannot meaningfully engage in major warfare anymore outside of a total war context because dead soldiers and any intermediate hardship tanks the political campaigns of anyone involved
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:26 PM

Said men are far more likely to go rogue en masse like in Central and Sahel Africa than sit around and die
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:18 PM

Yeah, the men typically used for doing the dirty work of the state will not off themselves on behalf of the state lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:00 PM
1

Louder for the people in the back
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:36 PM
2

I’ll get back to you in 5-7 years
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:14 PM

It’s not seen as a red flag because passing the tests is the metric by which they’re judged to be good people, no attention paid to the subtext of the behaviour. How do you think so many women get shocked to find out they’re dating a secret womanizer or closeted gay man using her for cover? So long as women reward mercurial behaviour and an promote a dating environment which rewards a lack of sincerity in romance, this will continue until the species dies out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:09 AM
1

I actually like the first one, and the decline of the first one in population made me sad
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:22 PM
1

If you need to put on makeup to entice a man, you’re dating a man who’s in the closet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:38 PM
1

I didn’t say it was inherently bad. I said I’m not a conservative (besides maybe wanting a family, which by the way is fucked that family creation has become a partisan thing, holy shit) when it comes to anything dating related so why should I do this? It goes against all the things I value about women as people and relationships in general
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:37 PM
1

If you’ve ever seen a woman immediately after showering, you know what a bare face looks like. Come on
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:35 PM
1

Makes more sense that way, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 10:33 PM
1

Sad 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:20 PM
1

I imagine it’s super common with college relationships that go bigger with time and turn to marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:19 PM
1

I used to be under the assumption that women liked men for who they were as people not what they did materially (because that’s how I always liked women), was a big moment when a cavalcade of women said that no, it’s actually his money and labour they cared about. Hit like a tonne of bricks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:16 PM
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Was super new to me. I’ve been dating since 2017 and only encountered this starting in 2024. I live in a big city in a very gender equality believing area of the world so maybe that contributed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:13 PM
1

This is not that compelling of a reason for a man who believes in gender equality and sees the choice to wear makeup or not wear makeup as a personal choice. I actually prefer less or no makeup, I like to see the woman I’m with’s bare face as much as possible. I like women as they are, not dolls. This is a compelling reason for a very conservative man who believes in stronger gender roles and is attracted to a specific kind of dolled up performatively feminine woman who fulfills the arm candy ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:12 PM
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Yes, but this doesn’t apply to when you both have your own place and are getting to know each other, and implying it still matters in that context is demanding performative behaviour not rooted in anything as concrete and valid as what you described
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:56 PM
1

Sucks because I wasn’t at all into this gender critical dating information stuff until way after I already got used to 50/50 for my entire dating life. It was actually partly the breakdown of that dynamic being normal that led me to start questioning things about men and women interactions and transactional dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:52 PM
1

This is sad, I’m sorry to hear that. Sorry I don’t exactly understand the first part of your first sentence. Can you rephrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:45 PM
0

I always thought that immigration to the west was part of why women are much more against 50/50 than ever before. Old world gender norms rubbing off on Americans and Western Europeans. The moment I started to notice big influxes of people was almost exactly when women started all of a sudden to get weird about splitting bills, despite every girl I dated prior to that point, who came from all walks of life and ethnic backgrounds, being totally chill with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:39 PM
1

All I would have to do as the woman version of myself (a 6’6”, white, brunette, blue-eyed man with a slim and fit build) is continue to regularly hit the gym and I would have men worshipping the ground I walked on. I would unquestionably have a better dating life. My DM’s are dry and no luck IRL. By contrast, both of my cousins are basically the woman versions of me physically and attractiveness level and have exactly the dating lives they want (one has a great husband who is handsome and who ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:22 PM
6

I’ve heard some blackpillers say that women aren’t as heterosexual as men are as a group, but damn that sounds pretty extreme. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:59 PM
18

Literally never heard of this before and thought I knew about most blackpill stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:35 PM
1

Probably the consequence of valuing strength over all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:40 AM
3

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:50 AM
-2

Thanks OP, this might have actually helped me overcome my worry of bothering of women when it comes to approaching (actually serious)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:01 AM
0

Being judgemental and making value judgements from experience are two different things. That’s why I think it’s the guy with a lot of experience to pull from is more likely to say it. When I only had experience with a couple women, I thought bpd traits were endearing owing to lack of experience. A more experienced man would realize by contrast that that woman is probably dangerous to know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:16 PM
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I feel like this is only the opinion of men who sleep with tonnes of women. I doubt this opinion is common among average guys
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:28 PM
3

Who told you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:52 PM
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Because they care about women not feeling bad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 02:41 AM
7

Results are the only way society tells now. And the results are poor enough that if you don’t know many people who successfully approached, how will you know? We live in an age of 60+% of people meeting over apps
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 01:43 AM
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It would, but this impulse is highly discouraged and acting like there hasn’t been a huge society wide push to curtail it is just being obtuse
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:32 PM
9

OP was talking about chairs, I wasn’t and that’s honestly an extreme and hyperbolic example
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:02 PM
8

I’m explaining how all this happens because you seem to not know and assume that it’s the guy and not the social reinforcement
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:02 PM
9

This is the rub. All the women who want men to approach now don’t realize all the things their friends and mothers and sisters have said and done their entire lives to discourage the behaviours they want out of men. They would then have to course correct, but course correction at this point would give them the unfortunate title of pick-me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:01 PM
3

So it’s right to assume they’re lying and being dishonest in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:58 PM
6

If a man knows say 50 women, and they all agree, and are all different ages and social backgrounds, the opinions of other women functionally don’t matter. A man has to live in his world, not another
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:57 PM
9

Then it seems many are operating with bad definitions of insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:56 PM
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Because if it is in fact totally cool and normal and chill to do so, millions of men are being collectively gaslit by women, I being one among them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:54 PM
4

Idk. I think someone who hears “don’t approach woman in x y z fashion” by every woman in their life and acts accordingly is just being normal. Would it not be dismissive, ignorant, or even sexist to believe all women a man knows are collectively lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:53 PM
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This isn’t the typical definition of insecure tbh. The insecure ones are the type to approach but blow up at a rejection. This is different, something called “receptive” and “respectful of the majority opinions expressed by women in their lives”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:49 PM

No, because studies only track marriage, not dating or ltrs sans a ring
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:09 PM

This can be deduced from the reproduction numbers. Women reproduce more, and long term relationships typically involve children
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:16 PM

Less men get into longterm relationships than women statistically
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:49 PM

Women can get both hookups and a relationship more easily. If men meet less people to date in their lifetime total, they’re naturally at a disadvantage on both accounts. You’re simply not clocking the importance of exposure and access in this equation. If women can meet 10 times as many people, but most suck, that’s still several times more good opportunities than men. Get several grips
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:52 PM
2

No. I actually have thought that in some ways I would want my future love interest to have similar qualities, but my best friend has a snoring problem and is too stubborn to sort it out, whether for love or money, despite several possible solutions being entirely free. I don’t need that kind of obstinacy and lack of self-care sensibilities in a life-partner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:27 AM
5

Will try and keep in mind, thanks for that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:05 AM
5

Oh look, it’s Ryan Gosling (literally me). Saving this post so I can share this amazing encapsulation of my own perspective that I haven’t managed to put so succinctly. Thanks a bunch person with the same life experience and emotional landscape as me, and I hope you find love
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:41 PM

$1 pizza slice? Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:28 PM
1

For me physical touch as a love language is just about wanting to be physically reached out to often and touched if passing by. And not doing so feels like rejection. Probably comes from having very huggy and attentive parents who didn’t ignore me when growing up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:43 PM
6

Peak of potential? No. Peak of performance? Possibly yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:56 AM
1

The least important if actions are to be judged on their face
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:05 PM
17

Yeah, basically my experience. Most women think men’s collection and time-killer hobbies are lame at best
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:47 AM
36

True story. No woman I’ve ever dated was ever endeared by my hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:12 AM

I have in the past but going forward I won’t tolerate it anymore. Just a misalignment in values because the minimum I’ve ever done or wanted to consider since I’ve never been compelled to try being casual was a short-term relationship, and even that I wouldn’t want to do again
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:29 PM
2

Brutal
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 11:14 PM
1

😓
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:08 PM
0

Somewhat more polarized gender roles than other western cultures, even in cities
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:52 PM
3

When she asked I said that to an ex once because she showed me that she mostly took photos of herself for social media when she had a septum piercing (which she since had removed) and had taken less photos of herself when she didn’t have one. Since I don’t dig septum piercings naturally I wouldn’t have liked her profile
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 08:40 PM
-1

I feel like you have a good point but aren’t explaining properly. Consider workshopping it a little
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:50 AM
1

By pushing to maintain conversation and keep hanging out and not being aloof about it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:06 AM
2

This reads like a pagan goddess getting mad that her supplicants are both light on their sacrifices and considering worshipping a different goddess who better rewards what offerings they can make in lean times. Peak entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:09 PM
1

😓
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:55 AM
-1

That’s what middle names were invented for
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:21 PM
-7

I don’t want her to be a trad-wife, I want her to desire to be my wife, not a genderless partner who’s looking to ditch me at the first bump in the road. What is it with the whole “trad-wife or nothing” mentality? Can a man not have preferences based on life experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:58 PM
-5

No. Every woman I’ve met who wouldn’t take the name are the type to be extremely independent, hedge bets, and have a “one foot in, one foot out” avoidant attachment style. Not the kind of person I want in my life going forward
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:55 PM
1

Sometimes we’re so enamoured in the woman that our brains freeze up. Consider it a compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:13 PM
3

Your question is confusing. I go on a date because I’m interested but it’s not difficult to lose my interest if the woman is vapid or uninteresting or significantly less attractive than her pictures
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:31 PM
4

You determine whether you’re actually interested or if it was just surface level very soon typically. Within the first few minutes unless she puts her foot in her mouth or doesn’t resemble her pics well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:28 PM
8

As in I will engage with basically any topic you bring up if I like you and not cut you off
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:23 PM
6

As a man who dates from time to time, as long as I’m talking I’m interested. If you can hardly engage me or get me to talk I’m just counting the minutes or the bites of the meal until I can dip
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:20 PM
2

It’s antiquarianism, collecting historical artifacts from your favourite period/periods. I focus on classical Greece, late Roman Republic, and Roman Empire. I used to focus on prehistoric Native American artifacts as well as fossils, but changed hobbies after college
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:06 AM
2

They often get subsumed into the events of other hobbies because it’s not extremely large on its own. Usually there are subgroups set up at other events, like fine art conventions or coin shows/conventions. The forums are on Reddit but also Facebook. If you would like to peruse a good standalone dealer check out Harlan J. Berk Ltd
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:02 AM
2

And by material history I meant in the context of antiquities. And yeah, their concrete is cool
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:55 PM
1

I disagree. I’m actively involved in classical antiquarianism, both online and at events and it’s all (99%+) men. I don’t doubt your interest in history, but from my direct experience, women don’t typically collect artifacts and generally frown upon collection-based hobbies. Women typically prefer more activity hobbies (as you’ve described you mainly read and travel as expressions of your interest in history)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:48 PM
0

I mean more specifically the artifacts and material history. I go to events and am in forums and I’d be surprised if women surpassed 1% of the membership
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:43 PM
1

Brutal male dominated hobby stack tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:17 PM
2

And if you like Roman books, try The Assassination of Julius Caesar by Michael Parenti. It’s a breeze to read and very compelling
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:12 PM
2

If you want to see Roman sites I’d say aim for the city itself and then go south, to around Naples and Benevento. And as for museums, go to the Capitoline and the Vatican
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:09 PM
2

Those are likely the same kinds of beads that fell out of their rings. They’re called “intaglios” and can be made of glass, crystal, or precious stones
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:08 PM
2

I got it in person from Harlan J. Berk, the premier ancient artifact dealer in the USA. They’re very reputable, everything comes guaranteed. Picked it up a year ago when I was passing through Chicago along with some Roman silver and glassware
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:04 PM
2

I have, it’s part of what led me to study classics at university. I’ve been mostly around Northern Italy and the West Coast. Been 4 times so far, to Pompeii twice. It is very well excavated now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:01 PM
1

Mentioned below
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:56 PM
4

Not the most flashy piece in my collection but it’s my favourite. It’s a bronze ring with a carved carnelian stone depicting Zeus’s (Jupiter’s) Eagle carrying the club of Hercules. It’s symbolic of Rome (the eagle) taking up the power and authority (the club) of Ancient Greece. It was made probably around the 1st or 2nd Century AD for signing letters in wax. Aside from jewelry I also collect Roman/Greek glass, pottery, and coins
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:54 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:50 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:50 PM
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I wish more women were in my hobby, but they don’t seem to care too much about Greco-Roman art and artifacts
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:27 PM
1

Ah, didn’t notice, will watch in future
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:55 PM
-1

True. It was always a dodge. There’s a big difference between not having the figure of an 18 year old (legitimate rebuttal) and completely letting yourself go in (bs) and it’s rarely genetic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:15 PM
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Statistically speaking, women are more mid in average (in all aspects) than men and men are more high tier and low tier (in all aspects). Has to do with men being more genetically varied
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/26 01:25 PM
2

Structural. These issues have existed subtly for all time, it’s just that greater personal liberty and lack of significant interpersonal shaming is allowing these behaviours to run rampant
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:41 AM
9

I like to think I had a good grasp of what I used to believe more strongly and their implications. And yes, I take people at their word and assume these women are ignorant and not lying about their politics by the millions
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 01:51 AM
10

Not true. I’ve been mulling over previous opinions because they’re not borne out by my reality. I see the country I live in getting worse as more of my previously held policy positions get implemented. I see my day to day life quality decline due to misandry and the deprioritizing of men and their particular needs as people which are distinct from women’s. I see sadder and more isolated people, and I don’t see young men contributing to it. I would like a family someday, and the misandry and this…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 01:28 AM
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Kind of like how a lot of minorities side with the left because of multiculturalism stances and immigration, but are super anti-gay and somewhat racist when you get right down to their actual beliefs
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/26 09:22 PM
2

That’s very reassuring to hear as someone with little hope left in the tank
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 07:13 PM
7

Don’t listen to him. You’re being very reasonable with this and it’s what I’m looking for too. Some guys are just sensitive about the word deserve
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 07:03 PM
9

I’m just speaking for myself and a few people I know
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:08 PM
37

Unconditionally is hyperbole. We mostly just want to be loved in a “non-fairweather friend” kind of way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 06:01 PM
75

Basically. I never even considered thinking in a right wing fashion (been lately getting pulled to the centre) until misandry and general anti-man perspectives became super common in left wing circles. I also think a lot of women were pretending they were left wing or ignorant to being right wing underneath the very surface level.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/26 05:34 PM
2

Men would upgrade for finances if it was a more common proposition
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:12 PM
-1

Every once in a while I take a break, touch grass, get happier, interact with women who are family, and it makes me forget for a little while. Then I see stuff like this and it brings me back towards the direction of being blackpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:24 PM
1

Maybe a year
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:10 PM
1

Desperate feels like the wrong term. Naive feels more proper
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:46 AM
-3

Yes, and women having an insane plethora of options is why men need to not uphold their woman as much as they used to, like OP described
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:41 AM
-1

More male billionaires, thus a bigger threat
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:33 AM
-2

The chances of one happening is far more likely than the inverse and is this a more pressing issue
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:22 AM
3

This is downright sociopathic in its emotional detachment and entitlement. I’m again forced to marvel at the sheer depth to which my estimation of women’s supposed superior empathy and emotional intelligence has sunken
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:48 AM
1

Further to my point. The closest thing to a matriarchy we have isn’t even a true matriarchy (though in some ways at least in the 17-1800s to my knowledge women’s council and ascent was actually required for decision making on political policies in Iroquois society in a way it wasn’t anywhere else)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:10 AM
1

The landslide domination already happened in the Stone Age. It’s why matriarchies mostly went extinct prehistorically (except randomly with the Iroquois of all people). In every era, women refuse to stand united, even in the current era. Women buy less guns for self defence besides requiring them more to equalize force. That fire to defend or attack in favour of your political interests is not within your gender broadly speaking, and it’s why your rights will always be based on the whims of man.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 09:17 PM
1

I’m saying that when push comes to shove women lack the will to fight for their rights in a non-passive aggressive fashion despite the existence of force equalizers like guns
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:18 PM
1

I wasn’t talking about casual sex. I was talking about sexual violence and who’s doing it more
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:05 PM
0

Men are less capable of a fair trade than ever. Women find men of equal or lesser resources less attractive, so millions more men have been frozen out. Cut affirmative action and men will immediately have more to offer again
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:02 PM
1

Leave it to a woman to use sex-having as a measurement of morality in a man. Brutal admission
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:39 PM
-1

I didn’t imagine anything, I’m stating a fact. Women will never militantly push back against men. All you have at your disposal are Lysistrata-esque threats and passive aggression. Which, honestly, have proven somewhat effective, but using these weapons has created a world in which you’re statistically even more depressed and want to die. Keep spamming the withholding button and continue to watch your standard of living and will to live erode
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:31 PM
1

Which proves my earlier statement. The protracted guerrilla conflict option would actually be better for women were they to win or come to a stalemate, but there isn’t a world in which it would or could ever happen
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:23 PM
1

Leave it to a 🍔to act like Americans are the only people who exist and that every country that may or may not exist has the same problems
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:56 PM
1

Well my examples were specifically small European countries for a reason. And it’s that they’re on the cusp of big negative changes that will hit other western countries later
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:55 PM
-2

Bullshit. You will not fight a protracted guerrilla conflict with the entire male gender. That’s what I’m referring to. This will never happen, there is no world in which this even could happen
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:49 PM
0

You would think so, but in countries like Sweden, this is no longer the case. That’s how bad it’s getting
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:47 PM
1

I guess I should’ve have expected you to continue to play coy after I asked you not to
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:47 PM
1

https://youtu.be/oKY600o3CXw?si=AmVraHWI78H4vjYo
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:30 AM
3

It was a big news story. Where a bunch of Middle Eastern men were being told women are human beings with rights and they made surprised pikachu face
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:29 AM
1

Only the conservatives and rightists are meaningfully pushing back against mass immigration
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:22 AM
1

Are there well known Polish grooming gangs roving the streets? Stop playing coy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:21 AM
1

Yes. Are you telling me Pakistani men in London respect English women more than Polish men respect Polish women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:44 PM
1

You’re wilfully ignoring the point I’m making and then making your own. I wasn’t talking about younger generations, I was talking about leadership. And is Poland not safer than other countries with more lenient liberal-minded immigration policies?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:37 PM
1

So, you haven’t seen the feminist training videos? They discussed things that liberal and conservative European men take for granted, but were baffling to foreign conservatives
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:23 PM
-1

At that point it would just be a matter of incentivizing marriage and not signal boosting people who are anti-family
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:47 PM
1

It’s a bit of a different situation. Since America has had lots of illegal immigration for a long time, illegal immigrants in the states have learned that it’s best to stay under the radar from experience and intel from family. In Europe, all of its illegal immigrants came over a very short time from very far away and aren’t nearly as clever about playing the long game, and have a lot more contempt for European institutions. So they’re more anti-social in their behaviour and worse at hiding so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:46 PM
1

Also, until the late 80’s, women used to poll as a few percentage points more likely to be conservative politically
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:42 PM
0

Conservative men and politicians advocating for the advancement of their daughters in society is a good chunk of the reason why women in several countries managed to get the right to vote. Canada for example gave women the right to vote under a Conservative government.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:40 PM
3

You dodged the question
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:38 PM
1

Generally speaking, foreign conservatives are more bloodthirsty and anti-woman than domestic conservatives if you live in Europe. Look up the feminist training classes given to foreigners in Norway. Are you aware that many conservative parties were among the first to enfranchise women when it comes to voting?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:36 PM
-5

It will make them materially safer as people. Most women are not hardened gun-toting revolutionaries willing to lay down their lives for vague notions of freedom. If men were to fully secure society and guarantee a greater degree of safety and comfort, women would go along with it, grumpily or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:34 PM
5

So it’s more dangerous to walk around at night in Budapest than Stockholm or Malmo? I find that hard to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:31 PM
1

I wasn’t talking about the states, I was talking about Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:29 PM
2

I was speaking about Europe, and over there, in countries like Sweden, foreign-born men are more likely to assault women per capita
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:28 PM
-3

What if the conservatives make the borders tighter, thus making it easier to walk the streets at night, like in Poland and Hungary?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:31 PM
4

This doesn’t make sense as a response
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:45 PM
8

Every girl that didn’t want to pursue anything further with me down the line let me pay on the first date or 2. Every girl who liked me and either became my girlfriend or came very close payed their share or very near their share on the first date and most going forward. My most consistent IOI when dating is if she doesn’t make me fund every activity or meal. So if I ever pay in full after dozens of first dates that follow this pattern, I’m basically a chump who’s paying extra money to never see…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 03:29 PM
9

I only noticed pushback to 50/50 in “progressive” countries post-covid. I’ve always seen it as a recession indicator
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:22 AM
1

I would say this was true until a couple years ago. For most of my dating life Dutch was standard but now it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:49 PM

I agree with you mostly, I’m just bringing to light this sudden switch up reflected in the lives of most young guys I know + social media
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:57 PM
2

I didn’t say you shouldn’t. Just that self-awareness is key
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:49 PM
1

I had an ex girlfriend tell me this. I asked her where she heard this from, was her sisters and friends. They clowned on her when they heard we did split bills sometimes. It’s become more of a thing over the past couple years I’ve noticed. My personal view is that tough economic times plus an influx of less egalitarian cultures into western countries are bringing about a resurgence in old-fashioned standards for men without old-fashioned standards for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:53 AM
4

As long as you’ve taken stock of yourself as someone who can reasonably expect to hold down a top percent man, have at it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:29 AM
3

Perhaps you might like him as a person, and maybe not see sex as a commodity but a bonding experience to be shared with the person you love for who they are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:02 AM
3

Statistically yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:27 AM
3

I qualified that it’s generally easier for women because their parents cover it partly or in full. If my parents paid for all my bills from 18-25 I probably wouldn’t need roommates either. My sister is comparatively coddled and given money much more freely in general. Every girl I’ve dated that didn’t have roommates was bankrolled by parents due to either being the golden child or they were an only child. My millionaire woman cousin living in NYC, who herself is an only child and refused a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:02 PM
1

Could be that people I know are in a gold digger hotbed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:47 PM
3

Which makes this standard so much more disappointing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:39 PM
6

An average 5/10 guy in a suit isn’t getting more action than a guy in baseline normal clothes because he’s better dressed, it’s because he’s status signaling. If he can’t back up the implied status with material reality he shouldn’t do it. The clothes don’t make the man, the man does
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:07 AM
2

It’s wild to me how fast this all shifted
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:08 AM
3

That’s why I call BS. Either he’s eating nothing but lentils and living like a Spartan, or he’s lying about some aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:02 AM
2

I’ve always strived for egalitarianism and good give and take and giving the best of what you can when you can. I hope in vain to meet a woman like that and share a life like that with her. I don’t see this mindset in women I encounter much at all lately, and I see plenty of what you described, that gender conservatism and traditional feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:57 AM
9

Contrary to the old truism, the clothes don’t make the man. Attractive men look good in almost any outfit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:45 AM
1

It used to be the extreme exception but now it’s the rule. We started noticing it consistently around 2023 and onward. It’s seen as a recession/depression indicator historically. This phenomenon was also noticed in the context of Germany post-WW1 and in France during the great depression
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:22 AM
1

Are you by any chance upper or upper middle class? I say this since that’s the only possible justification for that standard. I say this also having dated women who came from true wealth that didn’t care a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:17 AM
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It’s surprisingly common nowadays. I and men I know literally never encountered it pre-2023. It elicits a negative response almost every time when I or a friend mention we don’t live alone or live with family. It’s a known thing that many cities are in the midst of housing crises, shortages of high paying jobs, etc… but the standards only soar as capabilities to meet even the old standards plummet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:14 AM
2

Because OP said you need to live alone. Also it happens. I and my friends have had faces of our dates go sour if they find out we have a bunch of roommates or are living at home
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:34 AM
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I relate heavily to your situation. I take issue with OP’s weird take on needing to live alone, as if a woman will care if she actually likes the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:33 AM
8

OP didn’t count it so I don’t count it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:30 AM
3

And in urban areas upper mid and attractive men get mid women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:28 AM
10

In the big 2025 it is and denying this is coming from a place of extreme privilege. Throughout most of human history this was never an expectation. It only made sense between 1960 to the 2000’s. This standard is bs for anyone below the top 5% of earners. You’re promoting a radically more brutal version of the 80/20 rule. It’s basically Poe’s Law, an opinion indistinguishable from parody
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:25 AM
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When I say it’s unrealistic, what I mean is you’re saying “Come on guys, all you need to get a girl is be in the top 5% of earners in your age bracket and spend all of your spare money and time in pursuit of being appealing to women. It’s that easy!” You defeated your point about needing to be wealthy or elite. Because this man you describe is both
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:16 AM
20

That’s extremely unrealistic, what the fuck? I’m not one to swear typically, but this warrants it. By having a luxury apartment all to yourself while living in a high cost area means you’re either overpaying and have little left over for anything else, or are bullshitting straight up. I know people who make over a hundred thousand with 2 or 3 roommates, in high cost areas. I doubt they’re doing it out of brotherly love
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:11 AM
5

In many major cities that salary still requires 1 or 2 roommates. This man is already disqualified
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:06 AM
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“Have your own place” was an interesting interjection. The vast majority of men I know who live in the metro area of a major city who are my age (27m) or younger either live with a number of roommates or with their family. This is starting to become an unrealistic expectation, especially since the vast majority women I know or have known (dated) who “had their own place” were being supported by their parents in part or in whole
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:03 AM

Go off HP Lovecraft 🐙💅🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:32 AM
0

🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:58 PM
4

I would say that someone willing to win at all costs as evil. All costs means “no depths you won’t stoop to,” in short, unscrupulous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:55 AM
25

“People cheer at executions but don’t want to be pals with someone that chops off heads? Curious…” Someone living in the 1600’s probably
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 09:44 PM

Yes, and with great specificity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:45 PM

I realized far too late that I unconsciously did this, and now I’m self aware enough to consciously do it. Subconsciously, every girl I dated prior to me realizing what my not wife material criteria concretely were, were placed in that mental box. Even ones I dated for multiple years and talked about marriage with. Here were my reasons that after examination of myself and my actions, desires, and personal needs, prevented me from moving the relationship to a higher level: Too erratic emotionally…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:49 PM
0

Higher diversity rates typically put a damper on relationship numbers, socialization, and fertility
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:04 PM
6

If meeting a greater number of people allows you to narrow down who you’re most compatible with, a woman is more likely to meet a compatible person than a man because a woman will always have access to more of the opposite sex than an equivalently attractive (physically and otherwise) man due to men pursuing women for relationships more than the opposite. Women have it easier
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:21 AM

No clue. I’m not much of an oracle
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:57 AM

It’s changing. In America, the poorer community birthrates have declined faster than wealthier ones
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:46 AM

A new stat came out that in the US, the African American birthrate has collapsed far faster than the White one. Soon it will be lower. Soon the average birth rate of the less wealthy backgrounds will be lower <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:43 AM
1

Once I hit the age of 19, dating felt weirdly easy and it was simple and took very little effort to find myself in new relationships and regular weekly or bi-weekly dates when and if I became single. Now dating is a minefield of disappointment, unreasonable standards, and shit tests. I’m not a chad by any means, and using lingo, I’d probably be considered a 6’5” High Tier Normie. Just doesn’t cut it anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:14 PM
6

Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:03 AM
2

My cousin’s girlfriend sucker punched me pretty brutally at a family event the other day and played it off as horsing around. The sooner we deal with the normalization of this excuse the better
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:05 AM
6

You read far too deeply into a very basic statement
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:50 AM
12

I didn’t say I gave up. I said repeated negative events had an effect on me. That’s how things work. Being an endless font of positivity is not realistic, I know, I was one for a time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:34 PM
17

I started to run into problems and bad treatment long before I became angry or spiteful. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:07 PM

Considering I’m long term relationship minded and have only slept with people I wanted to actively date or was actively dating, my number is 5 by 27. So I think it’s a reasonable ask that if I also want to be with someone of a similar mentality, she’d be either slightly higher if the same age, or less if younger than me. And to answer your question OP, yeah you seem to have a very normal past that a reasonable person wouldn’t judge you for, even if they were the type of person that cares about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:46 PM
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Yeah. When I’m rejected I either say nothing or a short goodbye text, with the occasional internal thought of “maybe I should ask her why she thought we didn’t mesh” which I never act on. But when I reject women and don’t choose to immediately block after doing so, there’s always some sort of surprise, pleading, or in depth questioning of why I made the decision and its validity. One time I even sensed in advance that a woman I was selling something to online was going to ask me out and I told h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:30 PM
1

None of what you said held any weight or made any sense. The concept of cherrypicking is only bad for those within a faith group. Outsiders cherrypicking is just how humans work. It’s like saying non-Italians shouldn’t eat pizza if they don’t care for Italy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:06 PM
1

This is pretty much what I was going for, but put much better
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:51 AM
1

I think the guy who jumped in just made my point for me much better than I could have
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:50 AM
1

I’m not misinterpreting, I’m co-opting and remixing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:41 AM
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Taking it out of context is fun though. Even if you ignore the original meaning, it speaks well to how things in general work with owning things, and the accumulation or loss of stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:55 PM
2

No
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:52 PM
20

"For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever has not, from him even what he has will be taken away.” Jesus was spitting here frfr
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:47 PM
2

Yes. I don’t have as strong of a “spark” reaction as many describe, takes me a little while to get comfortable around someone new and I don’t use vague vibes as a guide
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 01:45 AM
2

I thought a girl just wanted to be friends with me but she was actually actively trying to establish a situationship. Got tired of the lack of consistency and thinking she was still seeing other dudes a few weeks in and said I’m out so she started to be my gf to keep me around, then she got very unstable a few weeks after that and she broke it off
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:33 PM
1

This happened to me once and it felt so jarring. It’s not everyone but it’s definitely significant enough of a number to watch out for. If this ever happens just lay your cards out and if it goes bad you dodged a bullet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:08 PM
2

No, that’s hyperbolic of course. I did a comically small number for emphasis. The actual number is probably just a wildly low percentage of men. Why so literal?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:17 PM
2

I’m talking about primal attraction, not the kind where a guy has to bend over backwards to get you to look his way
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:07 PM
2

This is the essence of the point I’m making perfectly, and I’m finding it weird that other people replying to me miss it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:59 AM
2

That’s not at all what I believe. What I find silly is claiming to be attracted to “men,” but that list of total people is 7-8 people that may or may not exist on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:16 AM
5

The claim that women who exclusively sleep with men are heterosexual becomes more laughable with every passing day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:22 AM
1

A man having sex with a woman that’s unbelievably ugly isn’t the same as defying his sexuality. By saying this you’re being unbelievably blackpilled on women’s sexuality, far more than many blackpilled people would ever dare to consider in the darkest recesses of their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:19 AM
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Very true. I’ve met more women than I can count who would be kissless virgins or horribly mentally enslaved to a manipulative woman if they were men. Dated a few myself…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:35 AM
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So you’re saying a woman sleeping with or dating a man that doesn’t tick all of her boxes is the same as going against your sexual orientation? Interesting take. Chad Chasing = Women’s sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:34 PM
25

You left out any positives for women and negatives for men. Argument ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:34 PM
1

The senate was corrupt and a tool of control for land-owning elites. I would suggest reading The People’s History of Rome by Michael Parenti. Hopefully you too take the Caesar-Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:31 PM
2

I believe the situationship crisis is definitely a result of this, women going for a different male archetype than before, but that archetype is nexting them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:43 PM
2

I have been noticing women self-reporting online that they are looking to date disagreeable men a lot more. I guess they think those are the men that’ll pull them through a crisis? Even though such men are more likely to leave them in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:41 PM
1

That was actually my assumption as well, but I’m not sure what the correlation is. Just a funny feeling I have
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:36 PM
2

I do all that, I just am not aggressive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:50 PM
3

It’s funny you mention this, because lately my typical “go with the flow, be chill and see where things go” attitude on first dates that used to do well is getting awful results lately. I have a sinking feeling my dates want me to control the interaction way more and be more overt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:58 PM

Great post, I have nothing to add
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:11 PM
2

Cinderella was artificially low, because she was kept in a basement. For men it would probably be something like a an attractive guy getting bullied and pigeonholed into a nerd archetype because he lives in a small town in flyoverland, and then getting discovered by someone passing through
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:16 PM
9

Only because almost every person is one lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:56 AM
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I actually used to do this very easily and well with a lot of self-confidence for my current achievements and not getting hung up on what I haven’t yet accomplished. After going on lots of first dates and getting rejected regularly, it starts to wear me down
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:07 PM
2

I expected either Netherlands or Germany. You guys like to pretend your opinions and customs are those of the whole continent 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:57 PM
2

Yes I meant exactly that, especially Romanians + Cyrillic language Turkic people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:32 PM
3

What part of Europe? Because in my experience, Slav and Slav-adjacent women tend to be pretty aggressively “man pays” in their outlook
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:58 PM
3

I say this because after recently visiting small cities and small towns, I noticed pretty equal pairings or actually the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:28 PM
4

Where do you live? I see what OP describes as a distinctly high population metro area problem (2million people +)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:04 PM
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I notice the mismatch more in the largest cities like New York for USA and Toronto for Canada
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:10 PM
4

I would do this in a literal heartbeat
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:02 PM
1

Sometimes I go on dates just to better acclimate myself to talking to girls 👧🏼, even if I’m not sure they’re my type
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:19 AM
5

They think you can take a bullet at 18 but not a modestly aged dick in the confines of an exclusive relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:39 AM
1

Already did that, not as successful as I expected
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:00 PM
5

Hiking, occasionally photography, art appreciation, reading, collecting coins, writing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:20 AM
1

What I see them not liking is seeing us invest in an interest that isn’t them. It’s almost like by dedicating ourselves to something that isn’t them, we’re micro-cheating. I noticed that in one relationship in particular when I had a hobby that I tended to put about 1-2 hours a day into. It was a very personally beneficial hobby that was good for me, but nope, that was too much to ask for even though we didn’t even live together
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:31 AM
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I’m not surprised at all. And my hobbies are definitely not all gender specific. It was as if they didn’t enjoy them because they were mine!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:10 AM
3

I like this list. It’s a very “yeah, a man made this list” list, and as a man I relate
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:09 AM
1

Lots of chicks aren’t very forthcoming with nudes even in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:13 PM
8

Yes. One gender being naturally more disposable is definitely an L
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:09 PM
-1

Many such cases
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:36 PM
2

The smartest woman I ever dated was also the grumpiest and nitpickiest, maybe that’s a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:43 PM
5

I had a nice family and upbringing, and I think I would be a good and considerate Dad. Simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:05 AM
2

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/truth-about-lesbian-bed-death-its-complicated-1210134/amp/ A 2013 study reconfirmed it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:58 AM
1

Research doesn’t need to be repeated every month to be indicative of something. Also, I can post other links
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:56 AM
2

Bull. Shit. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_bed_death
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:54 AM
10

Something something highest divorce rate and high rate of dead bedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 02:51 AM
1

I don’t care for tattoos
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:42 AM
1

I would agree with this, if I didn’t know many women in my personal life who have had sex with a good chunk of their male friends, who they continue to hang out with and chat with mid-relationship as if they’re platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:33 PM
1

I’m taking the piss lol. Just dealing with the flawed logic of having to present a fake persona
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:26 AM
7

So should I be a feminine queen until a woman finds me trustworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:00 AM
1

With a little more hands on effort, Match could become the Bene Gesserit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:24 AM
4

Basically when someone tries to weaponize emotional labour, they’re just trying to make you feel bad for being in anyway connected to them feeling a feeling that is less than ideal. Naturally both parties in a relationship are always doing emotional labour, but the use of it as an argument starter is based on one person feeling like they shouldn’t have to feel anything besides constant whimsy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:48 PM

Stamp collectors are asocial cringelords, and mostly seniors. This comment brought to you by Coin Collector Gang.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:22 PM
1

I would say that once I have gotten to the point of truly loving someone, I have very few conscious conditions. To find out if you’re also like me, ask yourself if you’ve ever loved someone selflessly even when you’re not with them and they’re not actively reinforcing your feelings of love. If you believe yes, you’re approaching probably as close to unconditional love as you’re capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:43 PM
1

Every time I’ve asked out a girl IRL, it has ended in a weird prank where the girl or her friends clown on me. It’s super weird and like something out of a teen drama
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 07:06 PM
3

Laid yes. Long term relationship? Hardcore mode. And only for the last year or so randomly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 03:41 PM
4

Feel this hard as an 8/10 6’5” Toronto man. Dating randomly got way harder last year than in any of the previous 5 years
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 03:39 PM

This is the definition of bait
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:36 AM

Just because you say downvote away doesn’t get you the high ground
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:00 AM

Weirdly, most of my pointed and direct looks compliments come from male friends and family. Only time girls say something complimentary it’s about stuff I do, how I make them feel, or my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:41 PM

That compliment is technically fulfilling the parameter. You’re not being called better or worse, you’re being treated as an individual. Men are hierarchized
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:02 AM

Men compliment women about their inherent attributes as individual human beings. Women compliment men in a hierarchical context (ie, being better than other men)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:07 PM
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It’s funny. As a man, I’ve never felt feminine a day in my life, but I’ve occasionally been described as feminine. Less because of what I actively do (habits, behaviours, hobbies), but because of what I don’t do (a number of standardized masculine behaviours). In short, I don’t behave in a feminine way, I just don’t go out of my way to be masculine, which to some appears to be enough to get me the label.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:18 PM
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It’s a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:23 PM
1

Insert joke about “if I’m a baby, why not breastfeed me?”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:27 PM

Avoidants be like…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:07 AM
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Based on the chart, men used to be more liberal than women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 09:11 PM
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Preach. Been on the random and confusing end of an avoidant breakup. So glad I learned about it afterwards eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:46 AM
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Yet… religious Eastern European societies are still declining despite being very Orthodox, and in India certain areas are starting to match the west for fertility. I think this decline is beginning to transcend religion
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:39 PM
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I’m legitimately fearful of this outcome as a secular humanist that’s much more pro-family than most other non-religious people I know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:21 PM
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I include my job title on dating profiles and it’s a bit vague so if it’s brought up I just like talking about it because I enjoy it. But I guess not a lot of people feel that way. I would suggest you either don’t list your job on dating sites or if it’s brought up, drop the basics and try to talk about other stuff soon
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:11 PM
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It’s funny, the women that lead with work related conversation instead of platitudes tend to be better conversationalists generally and are typically more interested in me, even though my job is rather mid tier (I’m a glorified courier). I think it’s just how women that are a bit more work oriented themselves behave, and isn’t necessarily indicative of gold digging or even hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:05 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:58 PM
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It’s beyond me at this point what women want in a guy. Maybe they want a superior, when all I look for is an equal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:48 PM
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No. I just noticed that a lot of your comments here seem to act like only men that dislike women or make themselves unattractive get bad results
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:41 PM

Hah https://x.com/Neo_officiall/status/1747985706255884749?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:11 PM

https://x.com/Neo_officiall/status/1747985706255884749?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:11 PM

Stats say 70%+ women have a specific person as a fall back should they breakup. Not even close to that many men have the same
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:06 AM

I have never seen that relationship myself, or among my friends and relatives. My straight woman cousins, save one, are serial plate-spinners. For my lesbian relatives and friends, it almost looks like a game of chicken/mutually assured destruction where they’re both side-eyeing each other over the shared “foot out the door” status
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:47 AM

That women, no matter how long you’re dating them, always have one foot in/one foot out
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:36 AM
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I love women. I am in the top 99.3 percentile of height. I have never been insulted for my looks, and am likened to several celebrities. I have more money than many my age. I try to accommodate. I value their opinions, perspectives, goals, and values. I give all I have when I have it. I view them as singularly important to society and prefer their company to men in all ways. But still, they hurt and emotionally destroy me, yet men always return to pick up my pieces after and help me out of my so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:00 AM
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Willing to give it a try
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:21 PM
2

Look up “Childfree Zones in South Korea,” which is the country with the current lowest birthrates
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:12 PM
1

Did I say generic “art?” I got specific with it. Classical art (like Ancient Greek and Roman). Not so many are into Ancient Greek art. I go to events and discuss on forums. Can’t remember the last time I saw a woman at or on either
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:46 PM
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Sorry to hear. I hope you follow a path that makes you feel better going forward, whether it’s together or apart
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:59 AM
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Not even just ugly men. Men that don’t fulfill a fraction of their ideal criteria eventually get the short end of the stick too. Stats are bearing out that above average looking dudes are getting increasingly similar treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:57 AM
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Personally, I’ve been embracing my interests now more than ever. Art, specifically to do with classical art and historical treasure. But… it’s a domain that’s almost entirely full of old men, and not a woman in sight. Thus, I now need to develop new interests that get me closer to women my age (early to mid 20’s). I like sports, but nothing “normal.” I like to write and read, but that’s boring. There’s nothing sexy about anything I enjoy in life, besides maybe traveling, but that’s not exactly a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:51 AM
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Reacting weird or negative when you offer to help them, whether it’s something basic or major Also, if someone detaches from or mistreats you while you are sick Also if they appear to treat you like an enemy during an argument instead of “someone I love who I am presently disagreeing with”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:31 AM
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I feel like I’m in the bottom of upper mid tier based on personal track record
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:35 PM
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I think men just put up with it more. I’ve attempted to friend zone half a dozen women whom I met casually or went on a date with but felt nothing but platonic, but they pretty quickly cut contact due to a resource-preserving “all or nothing” mindset. I don’t blame them at all, I just notice that men are far more likely to accept less than they desired in that scenario than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:13 AM
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Not really. Just the current paradigm pretty much is that a 7-8/10 man tends to pull 5-6/10 women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:45 PM
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That has been said poop head
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:43 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:42 PM
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It’s true. I as a man have been the best looking one in all my romantic relationships with women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:52 PM
2

hug
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:13 AM
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You’d be surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:14 AM
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Greetings brother
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:07 AM
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Thanks apresonly, I often feel very taken advantage of as a result of these experiences, and your comment is the first one anyone has made to validate my internal feelings that I’ve never given voice to. I really appreciate that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:15 AM
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Yes detective, that’s exactly what I’m saying. They knew they didn’t want anything long term from the start, but wanted to date me and I was pretty firm on my “long term/exclusive” dating preference, so they played along
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:02 AM
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Sometimes girls will pretend you’re in a long term relationship so they can sleep with you short term. It happened to me twice. Usually this is seen as a guy thing but not always
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:11 PM
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Oh shit, it’s my most recent ex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:28 PM
1

Someone has never heard of The Weeknd
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:24 PM
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I don’t know about your life. In my experience, having impeccable punctuality as a constant and unwavering standard is typically a sign of major neurosis and anxiety that negatively influences relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:32 AM
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That’s the demonstrated behaviour of people I’ve known or known of with these standards
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:06 AM
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Sounds like a nightmare. I’m imagining you’re the type to shout at your bf for being late in traffic with receipts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:55 AM

That’s the thing, I thought I was sure, but I’ve had to learn over time how to detect signs of odd camera angles or lighting tricks, or what the person shows/what’s oddly absent
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:51 PM

I find most of the efforts are to hide that the person is less fit than they claim, or hiding that they have very poorly taken care of teeth
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:33 PM

I’ve never tried. But I will try in future. Makes sense. You would not believe how different some of these people on apps are in reality from my pictures. I try to include a healthy mix of planned and casual photos for that reason. One of me on Vacation, one of me mostly left side of face, mostly right, one of me standing straight on rather tall near an object with a guessable height, smiling with teeth, and doing something a bit goofy/adventurous
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:29 PM
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Only once was the person actually better than expected in looks. We dated, was the best time in a relationship I ever had and everything felt as close to perfect as I could ask for. Then it was over in a snap.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:12 AM
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Because typically they’re discouraged during the “house breaking” in modern men. Ability to defend requires ability to attack, but forbearance not to attack. Modern education discourages promoting that attack capability that a good man would restrain himself from
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:23 PM
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Person who is assertive and could react effectively if a situation went sideways
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:40 PM
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Bull. Trad is interconnected extended families
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:17 PM

I’ve had that urge since I was a little boy. You got the urge when you were almost 30. We are not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:55 AM
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Not really. Because men are generally seen as the one who has to be a rock. Vulnerability means you’re an unsafe rock to build a foundation on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:10 PM
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Women aren’t special. It’s just the ones I like that are special 😖
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:09 PM
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Because it’s being widely discussed as a feminine trait. I only feel comfortable being a bit vulnerable with my male best friend after learning of this a few years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:12 PM
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Shit like “talking about things that bother you.” Turns out, a man that’s bothered by shit is feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:26 PM
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I’m talking about the small shit personally. Nothing major
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:25 PM
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The confusion is around double speak. Women for the past forever as far as I see it have been baiting dudes to be more vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:11 PM
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