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Throw her from wall to wall ? lol you didn’t have to say say that… I’m guessing your a dominant guy huh?😂
/r/seduction28/07/26 11:12 PM
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I mean chicks aren’t a monolith bro, the ones Complaining about passport bronz typically aren’t the chicks who are passport gals lol
/r/seduction28/07/26 11:08 PM
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Bro wtf are you talking about?? No one thinks that merely asking someone out is entitled. The whole point is that there are guys who act like they should be entitled to a woman fucking them/dating them because they say they are nice. Obviously no man or woman would want to be with someone just because they are nice and also genuine nice people don’t act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:00 AM
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Who is saying that merely asking a woman out is entitled ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:18 PM
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“ nice guys “ act entitled though. That’s what the term is referring to, not a genuine nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:17 PM
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Robert Greene of the art of seduction really gos into mystery as part of seduction a lot. It’s of opinion that mystery acfually works better for female seducers though and he’s right. Women will always get better results than men by being mysterious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:01 AM
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Actually a lot of women do say that, and there’s plenty of women online advocating for other women to be toxic to make more more mean attracted to and attached. <video>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:51 AM
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How do you feel about women saying toxic women are more successful with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:44 AM
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There’s a difference between “. Nice guys” and genuine nice guys … And Unlike fish women acfually want to be caught, women want more guys to have charismatic, confident, witty, funny, kind, masculine. Plenty of women can give really of good advice and not just “ be yourself Blah blah blah. When it comes to compliments and how to playfully ‘tease I would say if anything women give better advice than men do. Women are more likely to recommend compliments other than her looks, on her outfit etc. if…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:05 PM
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Hey dumbass I never did that. I was talking about 50 shades specifically. The fact is lot of women who bought that series is not kinky but boring vanilla women much to my disappoint as I found that out for myself firsthand haha. Obviously much of the women who bought that series is very much into BDSM, I’m just pointing out the fact a lot Of women who bought those books is not kinky at all and that you can’t really go by what women read. Would most vanilla women buy novels like that? No. In gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:56 PM
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I don’t understand it, the more I like a woman, the more I love a woman the more I want to fuck her brains out and be rough with her- only if she likes it of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:35 AM
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Well there’s a difference between smut and romance. Most dark romance can’t be summed up as porn, it’s emotional story story telling that has darker elements. One of the popular ones is called haunting Adeline and it’s about a vigilante who targets criminals like human traffickers, so he’s like a punisher type of anti hero who’s becomes obsessed with this woman- he’s not like Joe Goldberg though, he’s a guy who wants to protect women from guys like Goldberg.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:06 AM
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>doesn't matter that Joe is aggressive and unsafe / unpredictable. Which is not a turn on to most women. As a guy who used to very much so be like this I don’t get why some guys can’t acknowledge that it’s only a small minority of women who specifically like guys like this ( guys who are dominant in a negative way opposed to positive way) and it’s a certain type of woman. It’s really bizarre to me. I swear The OP is one the dumbest sounding fucking people I’ve come across on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:36 PM
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lol and Where do you get this from? if I had to put a number on the women who found it to be some degree of a turn off that I robbed people I would say like 95% of women. About 5% percent of women are sociopathic or close to being so. After I got out of prison I never dated anyone who didn’t disapprove of my past crimes, I wouldn’t want to. That did make dating harder as I did face rejection because of my record. The women I have dated since wouldn’t have dated me if I was the same guy I was and…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:53 PM
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I went into this in other comments but a lot of women who bought those books aren’t even into BDSM. That’s why the series was so popular, it wasn’t just kinky women. I dated this chick who had those books on her shelf and I got excited because Im really into BDSM ( I prefer being dominant) but she ended up being the most vanilla chick ever which surprised me because I was of the opinion that a woman who had those books must be into BDSM herself but no that’s not the case. You don’t have to be in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:37 AM
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Yep and these women who say that are bad girls themselves. Like attracts like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:41 AM
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Leather jacket ? a leather jacket ? Omg What a bad boy !!! 😂 man this shit is so corny lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:39 AM
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God this is so cringe, it makes me want to get rid of my bike Jk lol. I wish more women liked motorcycles. There’s def women who like motorcycles but most are not into it. The reality is a woman riding a motorcycle is more cool to men than a man riding a motorcycle is cool to woman. I’ve experienced it and so many guys have- women trying to make their boyfriends/ husbands get rid of their bike.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:37 AM
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And would you say you are a bad girl? Did you specially find those things attractive because just because you date someone it doesn’t mean you liked everything about them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:30 AM
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Most people use the term bad boys/ girls playfully not for bad people but ya party animals, those who are rebellious, cocky, etc. it’s weird to call legit horrible people bad boys/ girls. >Believe me.... when men talk about "bad boys", they're actually talking about bad people. Really ? A lot of guys generalize women as liking bad boys though, they really exggerate how many women specifically like bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:28 AM
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What most women like are confident men who have back bones- that doesn’t make a guy an asshole. A guy being a legit asshole is a turn off to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:21 AM
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The issue is it seems you are putting all dominance into one box when there’s Obvously different forms and displays of dominance and it’s very contextual. We have to separate positive forms of dominance most women would find attractive and the negative forms of dominance most women would find unattractive. In general Dominance is mostly a positive thing that makes for a good man. A good man is a strong man. A good man is a dangerous man. Im a reformed ex con who used to be dominant and domineeri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:37 AM
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Do you think the OP understands women and attraction to dominance ? Because he cleary doesn’t. He’s exactly the kind of guy that evolutionary psychologists complain about for misinterpreting the research. The far majority of women are not attracted to negative forms of dominance like he is suggesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:02 AM
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>Yeah, you certainly could've had a lot of one-night stands with women if you wanted to. You being a criminal would be a turn-on for many women, even if they wouldn't date you. And what kind of woman would find that to be a turn on? What percent of woman? Il tell you that it’s a very small minority of women who are immoral. I robbed people for a living. Now I did also rob drug dealers and other criminals and so that wouldn’t be perceived as badly as robbing other people. It depends on the contex…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:46 PM
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Well Men are just as guilty of dating bad girls as women are of dating bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:38 PM
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Again most women are not attracted to negative forms of dominance- I’m speaking as someone who used to display very negative forms of dominance. Have you read that long ass comment I made on here ? I unjustly assaulted people. Most women would find that very unattractive, most women’s” feral chemistry would not find that attractive because their whole bodies are saying this guy is a peice of shit who is a treat to me and others.The only women who would find that attractive are sociopathic sadist…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:36 PM
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I agree with the sentiment of your comment but some of the stuff you say just gives ammo to guys like the OP. It needs to be made clear that most young women don’t need to learn the difference between negative forms of dominance ( domineering) and aggression from positive forms of dominance/ confidence/ assertiveness. If a guy is openly being a domineering jerk from the start that’s going to be a big turn off to the overwhelming majority of young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:22 PM
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Well women could say that Men only start liking nice girls after dating bad girls and crazy chicks lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:57 PM
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The danger most women like is not danger as in that guys a danger to them or innocent people, the danger they like is a capable strong man who can stand up for himself and protect others, a man who is dangerous to those who try to hurt him or those he loves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:54 PM
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Those men aren’t necessarily boring. Guys who are more feminine can be really charismatic, fun, humorous, good lovers. And when it comes to safety and danger. Making a woman feel safe is vital to her attraction and sex drive. Women need to feel safe and how a man makes a woman feel safe is not by being a little wimp, it’s by being a strong masculine man who she feels she can depend on. The dangerous man most women want is a good man. A good man is a dangerous man. Strength is what enables kindne…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:52 PM
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That is what you are saying. You don’t seem to understand that just because a woman enjoys a fictional character for entertainment it doesn’t mean they are like them or would want to be with someone exactly like them in real life. And why are scars cool and sexy? It depends on the scar, some look better than others.. I would say it’s a few things, signals of resilience, bravery, individuality, imperfection can feel authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:46 PM
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Do you not see how retarded your arguments are ? You’re saying that just because someone enjoys a piece of fiction that means they must condone everything in that story, that means they must want to be like the characters. You sound so silly. I love basic instinct, I think Sharon stone was so fucking hot in that film that must be mean I want to date a woman who murders people with an ice pick in real life! My favorite show is the sopranos I guess that means I think extortion is ok and when I get…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:27 PM
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When women say they want a nice guy you are what they mean, Obvously they don’t mean a pushover or a people pleaser, they want a genuine nice guy with a back bone. And you think a good portion of women keep that hidden ? Interesting because I don’t think so. I feel like men are more likely to hide stuff like that from their platner than women are. Women seem to be confident in telling guys they wand them to be more dominant, they feel like most guys would be down for whatever they recommend wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:09 PM
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To be fair most men in that space understand what you are saying, it’s just for some of them for some reason rather than defend masculinity and say it’s not toxic want to be like yeah it is toxic and women like jerks lol. The correct red pill response to a man saying women like jerks is “ no most women don’t like jerks, only a small minority of women actually specifically like legit jerks , what most women want are strong masculine confident men with back bones, having a back bone doesn’t make a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:06 PM
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I mean It’s 2026 bro tattoos don’t give off the vibe they did 50 years ago lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:03 PM
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Well there’s positive forms of domiance and then there’s negative forms of dominance. Obvously most women find the former attractive and the latter unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:02 PM
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You are clearly not talking to a reasonable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:00 PM
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He wants to make it out as negative and toxic. He’s a fucking dipshit. Rather than defend masculinity and advocate for Dominance as something that makes for a good man to be able to act with integrity and courage he just wants to make out women as liking toxic bad men when the overwhelming majority of women find negative forms of domiance and aggression very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:58 PM
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Well it’s important to point out that the domineering type of guy you are talking about is not rewarded by most women at all. That’s not the kind of confidence, dominance, assertiveness that most women like
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:47 PM
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First off let’s clarify what women mean when they want they want a nice guy, they don’t mean a pushover or a people pleaser, someone just super agreeable, they mean a genuine nice guy with a back bone and of course someone they find attractive- No man would want a woman just because she’s and it’s the same when it comes to women for men. Dominance is overwhelmingly a positive trait that makes for a good man. A good man is a strong man. A good man is a dangerous man. There are forms and displays …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:43 PM
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lol that’s a positive form of domiance to you ? A positive form of domiance would be standing up for that person, confronting others who are doing something out of line. I tried to explain that not all forms of dominance are attractive to women, that negative forms of dominance are really unattractive to most women but you don’t seem to get it. Why do you think my ex dumped Me for that? Why do you think that would be repulsive to most women even though I was showing my domiance and strength ? Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:31 PM
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It’s like you didn’t read what the fuck I said lol. And Which women are saying all a guy has to be is nice for him to be attractive? Women aren’t lying about wanting a nice guy, they shouldn’t have to clarify that that the guy has to be a threshold when it comes to looks etc, that should be assumed whenever someone says they want someone funny or nice etc and again obviously by nice they don’t mean a doormat. I do think it would be better for women to say they want someone kind or a good man bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:02 AM
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>Depending on what you mean by strength, I'm not sure I agree with this. A lot of definition of strength involve 'power over others' and I don't think good people seek that. By strength I mean the ability to act with courage, confidence, self-control, and integrity. A strong person has the backbone to stand up for themselves and others, handle adversity, and do the right thing even when it’s difficult. >A good way to demonstrate strength is to be a jerk, to hurt lesser people to prove your place…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:51 AM
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>The blame isn't on your "intuition" it is on you risk taking. You don't need "intuition" to know that the safe boring nice guy is going to have a lower likelihood or abuse and cheating. Too often women choose to go for the bad boy instead and shock pikachu they get abused or cheated on. If you drive a car at .5 speed limit with your seat-belt on and die in a car accident you have my condolences. If ride a motorbike 2x speed limit and die in an accident, thank god someone more worthy can finally…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:17 AM
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When women say they want a nice guy Obvously they don’t mean a pushover or a desperate people pleaser, they mean a genuine nice guy with a back bone. And of course someone they find attractive and feel a vibe with. No man would want a woman just because she’s nice and it’s the same for women when it comes to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:04 AM
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No man would want a woman just because she’s a good person and it’s the same for women when it comes to men. And men are Just as likely to be victims of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:03 AM
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Guys who have a lot of casual sex are necessarily alpha dudes ( as in really masculine or atrong) and also there’s not a very strong correlation between male attractiveness and being willing to commit- that’s an anti Chad narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:59 AM
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Better way to frame AF/BB would something like S/S - sex and stability because the physically attractive guys women would want to have sex with aren’t necessarily alpha dudes at all and the providers aren’t necessarily beta. >The vast majority of men who are able to get casual sex are also able to get relationships, easily. Men who can and do fuck around but are, for some reason, mass rejected by women for LTRs are extremely rare, if they exist at all. Most dudes can get casual sex if go after i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:54 AM
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A better way to frame would be something like SS- Sex and stability because physically attractive guys that that women would want to have sex with aren’t necessarily alpha dudes at all and the guys who provide stability aren’t necessarily beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:41 AM
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The thing is the beta or provider of BB isn’t necessarily nice, a typical story is some woman married to some rich asshole and she cheats on him with the pool boy who is not only more physical attractive but he’s kinder and more attentive to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:16 PM
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Or they start off disliking each other in beginning ( enemies to lovers) women first and foremost read romance for the sake of entertainment, drama, suspense,catharsis more than realism or what they would look for in a relationship. That’s why a lot of stories are really sad or have women glad they aren’t in a relationship like the one they are reading. If the relationship was so simple and easy, with no conflict then it wouldn’t be that engaging of a story. Women are just more entertained by an…
/r/seduction22/07/26 08:32 PM
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I’ve heard of women making guys they like wait but yet they would fuck guys they wouldn’t date… most women are the opposite, most women the more they like a guy the faster and more eagar they are to fuck him. Women’s sexual attraction and drive are more reactive than spontaneous compared to means, it depends more on interpersonal dynamics, how fun they are having, how safe they feel, it can easily be hurt any negative feelings. Men and women are so different on this. A woman can go from looking …
/r/seduction22/07/26 07:00 PM
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You ever slap him in the face while riding cowgirl ? If not try that out on your trip. Have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:04 AM
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Abusive relationships typically don’t start off abusive. It’s something that gradually escalates. Abusers can seem like the most wonderful people in the beginning and for a while. Some people are more prone to not seeing or ignoring red flags, some people are more prone to tolerating mistreatment, those who have low self esteem, those where abuse is really normalized to them. and men are just as likely to be victims of abuse. And why these men and women find themselves staying in these relations…
/r/seduction21/07/26 09:40 PM
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It depends on what we are talking about. Dominance is overwhelmingly a positive trait that makes for a good man. A good man is a strong man. A good man is a dangerous man. There are forms and displays of dominance that most women would find attractive and then there are negative forms of dominance that most women would find really unattractive. I’m a reformed ex con who used to be dominant and domineering in a way that would be very unattractive to most women, key word being most. I dated some f…
/r/seduction21/07/26 09:20 PM
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Well Todd’s game is way more effective on most women. And it’s guys like Julian that give PUA a bad rap even though it’s overwhelmingly a community that respects women and understands that being Warm and making women feel safe is most important, the game that emphasizes that is the most effective. I know the new Julian isn’t the old Julian but yeah.
/r/seduction21/07/26 09:01 PM
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The way you talk about BDSM is really Fucking weird bro… yeah it being consexual is the factor here. A man being hit by a woman when and how he wants it for sexual gratification is totally Different than him being unwantedly slapped in a heated argument… the consent and the context changes the hitting entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:24 AM
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The last thing you said is what it is, some women are just more free spirited. It says more about the woman than the guys game. A guy can be good looking and have all the game in the world but most women aren’t going to go there that quickly With a guy right there like that. My girlfriend is one of those free spirits, god bless these women. Some guys don’t think these women are proper but I’ve always admired women who have this wild raw sexual energy. She grabbed my crotch when we first met, aft…
/r/seduction20/07/26 09:28 PM
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>I had the romance down It doesn’t seem like you did .. I agree with the sentiment of the post whole heartedly it’s just interesting how some people think being open, being playful, teasing, humorous isn’t apart of the romantic equation. What do you mean that you only showed the romance ? You lacked romance on that first date it sounds like. Being romantic is giving yourself to someone else, it’s opening up, it is showing your personality, making them feel good and desired, playfully teasing the…
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:27 PM
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Nah there’s def some of that bitter nice guy energy from that comment. And by highly agreeable if you mean a pushover or a desperate people pleaser then yeah that’s unattractive to most women, there’s plenty of women who go for guys like that but obviously that’s more likely to lead you to being rejected. The only kind of women who would actually want a guy like that are predatory women looking to take advantage. We can just say guys who have less game are more likely to be rejected but a guy ca…
/r/seduction20/07/26 05:50 PM
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>Women think they are more emotionally in tune than men, when they are actually just governed by their emotions Women are more neurotic, they have more anxiety but is it really fair to say they are more governed by their emotions compared to men? There’s just enough of a difference to generalize women as emotional and men as logical.
/r/seduction20/07/26 05:50 AM
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^ This is the type of stuff that guys who are intentional or emotionally invested get. No that’s what Guys get from women who don’t share the same feelings. This guys feelings were clear And this is an example of a woman being really cool and gentlefully letting a guy down in the best possible way. Am I getting “nice guy “ vibes here? , is this comment coming from a sentiment of how dare this woman not reciprocate since I was emotionally invested etc The OP could have done this post better, she …
/r/seduction20/07/26 05:47 AM
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There is research that shows women deal with beak ups better than men because they have more of an emotional support network than men do. >Whenever I see posts/comments like this, I assume it’s some girl getting plowed by some guy way out of her league, hoping he’ll commit She was misinformed but knock off the lame incel shit. And dudes gotta Stop assuming the guy must be some giga Chad, that’s putting pussy on a pedestal. Most of these guys women are talking about are not as attractive as you t…
/r/seduction20/07/26 05:33 AM
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Are there women who lead guy friends on ? Sure but that’s overwhelmingly not the case at all. And guys put themselves in the friendzone. If a guy is interested in a woman then he should shoot is shot and if he can’t just remain friends then he should move on.
/r/seduction20/07/26 05:28 AM
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I’m just curious as to what you mean by this? Are you saying because it’s right for men who have been led on or hurt in the past by women that it’s okay for them to do the same to other women ? It’s wrong when either men or women do this.
/r/seduction20/07/26 05:16 AM
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I like to go harpooning at least once a year.
/r/seduction20/07/26 05:12 AM
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What a bunch of fucking nonsense. Me personally I look at is as the bar having never been lower, there’s never been a a more accepting time for a man to be weak, not masculine, fat. If you are in great shape and are masculine then you have already set yourself apart from the pack. And again look at who most women are dating, they are dating these guys you want to call invisible. Obviously the better looking you are and the more money you have the better so yeah I would encourage any guy to to wo…
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:23 AM
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You shouldn’t put gym girls into the same category as girls at bars/ clubs. I know the gym thots stand out but there’s not nearly as big of a correlation as there is with women who regularly go to bars and especially clubs.
/r/seduction19/07/26 09:31 PM
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Why the fixation on super Chad? Most women don’t need a guy to be super Chad lol. This notion that women’s standards have risen so much is a bunch of incel bullshit, guys who just want to make excuses for themselves and complain about women. The reality is most women aren’t demanding for much, most women are dating dudes who don’t look like models and Guys who don’t have a lot of money.
/r/seduction19/07/26 09:26 PM
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And the issue with dating apps is they are overwhelmingly male. Of course women are going to be more picky. It’s men who are relying on them, not women. Most women don’t use dating apps. I would encourage every guy not to rely on them and to try to find women in person to ask out. It doesn’t have to be bars, there’s tons of places to meet women, coffee shops, parks, local events and festivals, any sort of store, activity clubs, a lot of guys just need to get out and do more stuff and when they s…
/r/seduction19/07/26 09:20 PM
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Just because she was into another guy doesn’t mean she wouldn’t have fucked you that night out of convenience, especially if she was a more sexually uninhibited person and you escalated. Did she loose attraction that other guy? Just because she ended up fucking you doesn’t mean she lost interest in the other guy, idk maybe she told you she did? And how I would have bed her without flirting with the other women is I just would have sexually escalated ,there’s always a good chance of it happening …
/r/seduction19/07/26 08:20 PM
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I know a lot of people go on about social proof/ preselection but I think it’s more to do with him carrying himself better honestly. And interesting how you like using the term lover boy” I’m not knocking it it’s just I don’t hear guys use that phrase much, I hear a lot of women use it in a negative way, saying I went from a lover girl girl to a bitch- saying that helped them lol. These women think “ lover boy “ is a good thing but yet they think “ lover girl isn’t… they promote being be a black…
/r/seduction19/07/26 04:22 AM
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do you really think you flirting with those other women and calling her out really helped you get laid that night ? You don’t think she would have fucked you if you didn’t do that? Usually flirting with other women would hurt but in this case it’s different because she knew she was guilty of doing the same.
/r/seduction19/07/26 04:19 AM
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I know theres women like that but that’s not most women. For most women the more they like a guy they more Eager they are to fuck him because compared to men their sex drives are more reactive and impacted by interpersonal dynamics. Most women aren’t going to make a guy wait more than a few dates if she’s really into him.
/r/seduction19/07/26 03:54 AM
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I know theres women like that but that’s not most women. For most women the more they like a guy they more Eager they are to fuck him because compared to men their sex drives are more reactive and impacted by interpersonal dynamics. Most women aren’t going to make a guy wait more than a few dates if she’s really into him.
/r/seduction19/07/26 03:53 AM
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You think what I said is clownish? If anyone is the clown here it’s the OP. Look at how he talks about women. He said “I don’t care how much I like her I’m treating her like shit. Instead I have to constantly blunt myself emotionally, and treat them all the same. Because that’s what they are, all the Goddamn same.” He’s the clown.
/r/seduction19/07/26 01:28 AM
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Doing things that only appeal to a minority of women who are atleast currently just looking for casual sexual relationships or avoidant women who just really fear intimacy.
/r/seduction19/07/26 01:00 AM
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>a girl who was super into me when i ignored her existence rejected me in the harshest way possible simply because i gave a f and reciprocated. So she just wanted sex but not a relationship or she got to know you more and lost interest. > like, in order to get them, we can’t like them anymore. but if we don’t like them, what’s the point of getting them? What do you think of the women who say the same thing about men? becuse there’s plenty of women who lament that men seem to like them more when …
/r/seduction19/07/26 12:49 AM
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Mutual isn’t too much for a woman who is actually into that man.
/r/seduction19/07/26 12:39 AM
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And There are women who say the man should like the woman more, Both sides are arguing from the same idea: that the person who cares less has the upper hand. I object to both men and women having this mindset. Attraction is not a competition where the winner is the person who is less invested. The idea that women are the ones who naturally want more of a challenge is also oversimplified. Compared to women men are more motivated by novelty, competition, and the feeling of overcoming obstacles. Wh…
/r/seduction19/07/26 12:38 AM
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Bro you sound insufferable. You have such a warped mindset on this. And there are certainly women who sound like you. Women who lament that their niceness, their investment and effort didn’t get then what they wanted and that men seem to like them more when they are unavailable bitches. Both the men and women who think like this need to pull their heads out of their asses. You getting emotionally invested doesn’t make you a gentleman. I don’t hear a gentleman. I hear a bitter entitled dude. And …
/r/seduction19/07/26 12:27 AM
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Exactly. this dude weirdly resorts to framing that as treating women like shit because hes bitter that his inclined way of courting women didn’t entitle him to women reciprocating.
/r/seduction18/07/26 11:29 PM
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People with ADHD really differ. They can’t all be put into one box.
/r/seduction18/07/26 10:16 PM
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I understand why there’s a desire to try to see the positives of disorders like ADHD. people are always grasping at straws to see the negligible associations with creativity etc but the reality is there is no real benefit to any of these disorders. There’s no strong correlation with ADHD and being quick witted or creativity like some want to suggest. people with ADHD are more that their disorder and so they should give themselves more credit. You’re not quick witted because of your ADHD, your qu…
/r/seduction18/07/26 10:14 PM
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>Tell me where you're getting the statistic from that only a minority number of women high body count. You can look it up. It’s absolutely only a minority of women who have a high body count. >Plus what I said has nothing to do with body count and everything to do with the type of men women pursue. If you want to use dating app filters for an example most women set their filters to 6ft disregarding majority of men who are average height. This is just one example. when it comes height the thing i…
/r/seduction18/07/26 12:07 AM
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I definitely do not have this fairy tale idea of romance and certainly have not been with women who would only consider me their last option. I just objected to you generalizing women as shameless. It’s just so lame when men or women generalize the opposite sex this way.
/r/seduction17/07/26 11:25 PM
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You brought up bondage not knowing if she’s down for that and with little rapport. Are you into ropes? Or were you just making a joke because as a guy who’s into bondage I never brought that up with a woman before we had sex the first time because you are just going to ruin your chances of having sex with them, it’s going to turn a lot of women off.
/r/seduction17/07/26 11:05 PM
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Love Vanessa van Edwards. The way she breaks down charisma is so well done. an issue with dating and attraction advice has been too much of neglect of warmth in favor of competence. I of course understand the primary focus being on competence there’s need to be a good man ( a good man is a strong man ) but there’s Such an extreme fear of being seen as needy or too nice or not dominant enough to where it limits people in having quality relationships, in being as attractive as we would be especial…
/r/seduction17/07/26 10:20 PM
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I wouldn’t say they overwhelmingly do. Only a minority of women have a high body count. And guys gotta stop putting pussy on a pedestal by generalizing the guys women sleep with as so attractive. The typical casual hook up is an average man and an average woman. Most guys could fuck a lot of women if they put in the effort and go for it. The main factor in that is not looks or money, it’s how much a guy pursues it, how often he gos to bars and shoots his shot with women. It’s a numbers game. And…
/r/seduction17/07/26 10:11 PM
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I mean no man would want to fuck a woman just because she’s nice and it’s the same for women when it comes to men. Why would any man think otherwise lol. These guys who act like they should be entitled to women fucking them because they claim they are nice are so pathetic. genuine nice people don’t act or think like that. Coming across as nice vs a good protector are two very different things. It’s definitely beneficial to come across as that to women in short term mating as well. It definitely …
/r/seduction17/07/26 10:08 PM
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Yes Women’s actions are sometimes different than what they say but come on overwhelming for most chicks they are not opposite things. And the women who have no issue sleeping with manwhores are typically women who have been hoes themselves. How a woman feels about a man’s sexual history is correlated with her own. Women differ as individuals and thus like respond to different sorts of men differently.
/r/seduction17/07/26 09:57 PM
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Honestly it sounds like you have a juvenile sense of women.
/r/seduction17/07/26 09:49 PM
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It’s absolutely overrated. The way some guys exaggerate the effects of preselection and the way they generalize women because of it is ridiculous. Women like conventionally attractive men because they are conventionally attractive not because other women do. A woman seeing other women liking a man can enhance attraction, it can create more attention or curiosity, make him seem more trustworthy but it’s just not going to move the needle the way some make it out to be. Women are not going to like …
/r/seduction17/07/26 09:02 PM
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>The same as everywhere else. Preselection simply means that they notice or hear that other women find you attractive. Not just about other women finding you attractive, a guy being social and other people liking and respecting him in anyway is appealing. And trust and safety is the big thing. >Such as being a neurosurgeon, a lawyer, or a pilot. This indirectly taps into her knowledge that "other women find men with these jobs attractive, therefore I should also find it attractive". Women find c…
/r/seduction17/07/26 06:25 PM
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Women don’t need to be “social masterminds” to tell the difference between genuine interest and seeking validation. They aren’t reading minds; they’re picking up on cues. You don’t need advanced psychology to notice whether someone feels authentic or whether they seem dependent on your approval to feel good.
/r/seduction17/07/26 04:37 PM
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The main critique isn’t that guys appear boring stifled or insecure, it’s that there’s a neglect of focusing on projecting warmth when trying to force this alpha quality. We are taking about going up to much physically weaker women as much physically stronger strangers for fuck sake lol.
/r/seduction17/07/26 12:19 AM
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The problem with the “don’t give a fuck” framing is that it confuses confidence with indifference. Women want to feel chosen, valued, and important by the man they want. The issue is not that a man cares too much about women; it’s when he starts seeking their approval instead of expressing genuine interest. There is a difference between prioritizing a woman because you truly value her and prioritizing her because you need her validation. Healthy prioritization can actually be really attractive b…
/r/seduction16/07/26 10:26 PM
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I genuinely just really like women, it’s far from just being about sexual gratification for men. I love talking to them and hanging out with them, enjoying life with them. And all this makes you a much better seducer.
/r/seduction16/07/26 07:25 PM
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Being a good lover will definitely make a woman more favorable to you but have them on whatever page you want ? Nah. We should all want to be great lovers but there’s def men who are especially motivated to use that to have on power over their partners like women often do. Women care more about the quality than quantity, they less are likely to feel they are getting quality sex but so one would think they may be more influenced by a guy who fucks them good compared to men with women but that’s n…
/r/seduction16/07/26 05:59 PM
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Some women are more willing to bend more than others. In general men and women are more likely to bend the more they want someone obviously but it comes down to their individual personality, their self esteem, their back bone.
/r/seduction16/07/26 05:50 PM
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Well for the far majority of women it’s not that different. For Most women what they think they want absolutely is what they respond well to. Fucking a guy on a first date and regretting it ? common but Hardly any woman is going to fuck a guy and then want to continue dating him with no sex for the time being. A normal woman who may regret having sex that early is just going to keep having sex with him if they want to continue seeing that person, at the point it’s weird to hold off on sex after …
/r/seduction16/07/26 05:27 PM
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Well you make sure it’s right kind of emotional spikes. Remember women’s sex drives are more reactive and less spontaneous. it’s more impacted by interpersonal dynamics, it can be easily be hurt by negative emotions. It’s really important for a woman to feel safe with a man. Their sex drives are so different than ours. For us a woman on a date could be so off putting, she could seem so unstable but yet we are still trying to be smash where as for women they can go from wanting to fuck this hot g…
/r/seduction16/07/26 01:20 AM
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I’m not saying i don’t believe this but anyone can fake the results of these fake profile experiments. I talked to this former incel who admitted to making fake profiles using a photo of a handsome model and he would make the profile distasteful, Nazi stuff, history of being a child abuser etc and he would fake the results to make it look like way more women would go for someone like that than the real results he would actually get. Obviously some women would, we don’t need experiments to know t…
/r/seduction15/07/26 05:39 PM
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You don’t want to be classified as a fuckboy. Women fuck fuckboys not because they are fuckboys but despite them being fuckboys. A fuckboy is a guy who is deceitful, who lies and leads women on. There’s nothing wrong with a guy who is just interested in having casual sex with women as long as he’s honest about it. But what you are taking about applies only to a minority of women. Yes there are definitely women who will make the guys they want wait and yet will have one night stands but that’s no…
/r/seduction15/07/26 05:28 PM
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I actually feel bad for women who have this shame. I’ve definitely dealt with women who had a lot of shame and it just made me more motivated to give them the best experience possible.
/r/seduction15/07/26 05:11 PM
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And if you look at the dating advice given to women, a lot of it is the same advice given to men. Don’t be needy, don’t be overly available. Don’t over text. Don’t be too nice. The fear of all that is That’s such a prominent thing. Of course you don’t want to come across as needy or desperate but a lot of people out of insecurity go too far in the other direction. A lot of people could raise their value by being less available but there’s a healthy middle ground. And there’s men being told don’t…
/r/seduction15/07/26 04:59 PM
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Being polarizing can create attraction and chemistry if that specific display of polarization just really appeals that individual but to say effective flirting requires being polorizing is just ridiculous. There’s things effective flirting requires and being polorizing is far from being one of them.
/r/seduction15/07/26 04:42 PM
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I actually didn’t see what. So instead of calibrating physical touch they went full retard? Yeah men can’t do that the way women can. It’s actually interesting how many men are okay with being groped and basically sexually assaulted by women. Does aggression work? It depends on what we are talking about. It works when it’s wanted. I wouldn’t say it works better than what anyone would admit though. I think it works as well as anyone would expect. And dude what is your deal? We’re taking about agg…
/r/seduction15/07/26 03:48 PM
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What is “ negging “ to you ?
/r/seduction14/07/26 07:34 PM
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It’s wild what the definition of negging has become, it’s totally different than what the main pick up artist gurus made it out to be. They made it very clear that if you are coming across as an asshole or offending women then you are doing it wrong. The negging that gets a bad rap isn’t what negging is supposed to be, it’s not the negging that works. . Strauss is equally clear that negs should not be used as insults: "a disqualifier should never be hostile, critical, judgmental, or condescendin…
/r/seduction14/07/26 07:30 PM
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Why OG pickup artists like mystery get a bad rap with the general public? These dudes constantly emphasized that attraction isn't about coercion but about creating a fun, engaging interaction in which both people are comfortable. They advised men to be socially calibrated, read a woman's reactions, respect her boundaries, and avoid making her feel pressured or unsafe. Confidence, humor, and emotional self-control over neediness or aggression. These guys get demonized because a small minority of …
/r/seduction14/07/26 03:22 PM
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People typically use the term bad boy/ girl playfully meaning not someone who is an actually bad person but someone who is ya know rebellious or wild. I think it’s just weird when people call legit terrible people “ bad boys/girls lol. The thing is bad boys often have traits that are conventionally attractive.. confidence, boldness, back bone, often charismatic. These are not specific bad boy traits. These are traits that make for a good masculine man. If you look at specific bad boy traits like…
/r/seduction14/07/26 02:47 PM
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Not necessarily. women who come across as "hard to get" are often like that because they want a man to pursue. for them it helps build excitement and lets them gauge a man's confidence and interest. If that's the dynamic she's looking for, then the issue isn't that a guy isn't polarizing, it's whether he can flirt confidently, read the situation, and avoid coming across as needy.
/r/seduction14/07/26 02:35 PM
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I see guys say that if a woman is playing hard to get then she’s just not interested, that when a woman is interested they are easy and that’s just not true. Some women are naturally like this even if they are really attracted to a guy and really like him. some women are purposely playing a hard to get as a seduction strategy. You have to pay attention to the advice that women are giving to other women on seduction because they are students of the game as well. The most common advice that women …
/r/seduction14/07/26 02:26 PM
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Jeez don’t get your panties In a wad because of some disagreement and criticism. Look I think most of what you said is good stuff. I like how you characterize acceptance and adventure. I’m not saying a woman who isn’t in engaging in threesomes can’t be entertained by a guy telling a story about threesomes if it’s told in a fun engaging way but what I am saying is that when it comes to the goal of enchasing attraction talking about threesomes to women who aren’t interested in taking part Obvously…
/r/seduction14/07/26 12:27 AM
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What
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:54 PM
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I think you categorize it really well. The more a woman feels safe ( acceptance ) with you the more she’s going to be up for adventure with you and then great adventure together creates a stronger connection ( more acceptance )
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:50 PM
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His mindset isn’t good if hes saying he wants to be a fuckboy. A fuckboy is a guy who is only interested in sex, he lies to and misleads women. Nothing wrong with a guy wanting to keep it casual and have sex with a lot of different women but it is wrong to be a “fuckboy “ And why do you say confidence boarding on arrogant ? The best fuckboys are the ones who don’t seem arrogant to the woman in question. Cocky funny ? Yeah but boarding on arrogant just makes you less appealing to most women who a…
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:29 PM
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Doesn’t a “ fuckboy” have a negative connotation? Why is no one on here speaking against being a fuckboy? There’s a difference between being seductive and lying to/ mistreating women. . And the best and most attractive fuckboys are the ones who don’t seem like fuckboys.
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:20 PM
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>Why would telling a story about a threesome spike a woman’s interest so dramatically? I assumed my date was just a crazy weirdo, but later I told that story to other women, even women I was not dating, they also became more interested in me. Why? Because those women were interested in threesomes, if they weren’t it wouldn’t have had a positive effect, it’s that simple. Like men, plenty of women like threesomes( or really interested in trying it if haven’t yet) >womens’ sexual attraction is emot…
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:09 PM
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A man that no other woman would be attracted to would be a hideous person lol Social proof and preselection is a thing but I’ve noticed a lot of people really exggerated that and misinterpret it. Women want conventionally attractive men because they are conventionally attractive, not because other women want them.
/r/seduction13/07/26 07:41 PM
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What’s a female seducer ? lol any woman who is trying to attract and influence a man bro. Women were the creators of seduction because they couldn’t rely on direct and overt influence. You seem to wrongfully think of a seducer who is the one doing the chasing. Female seduction is typically more about Inspiring pursuit rather than pursuing. Women using mystery can be really powerful in seducing men. A woman who leaves some parts of herself unknown can create curiosity. If someone feels they are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:22 PM
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Again difference between preference and absolute requirement. I prefer women being shorter than me, my girlfriend always preferred a guy to be taller but here we are. Now there is a difference that is just too much. Most women could potentially date a guy who is slightly shorter but much shorter ? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:16 PM
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Do you advocate for men to be fuckboys/players? Again I’m all for guys trying to have a lot of casual sex with a lot of women if that’s what they want but I’m against guys deceiving women in doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:33 PM
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I’ve been around really attractive guys who don’t get approached vs ones who do, the difference is the vibe they give off, how approachable and friendly do they seem, and also of course the setting matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:24 PM
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The other brother was not as good looking but he had a more attractive masculine personality- but I think I remember he could actually be more ruthless if he didn’t control himself. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, I watched some of it with my girlfriend at the time. also I remember feeling really bad for the brother in the gif when that doppelgänger woman who he loved said it was always his brother that she loved, I remember being like damn that’s brutal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:20 PM
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>We have The lucky guys (No skill or any attractive quality but stil gets girls, because god favors him) It’s called being social and putting yourself out there. The biggest factor when it comes to getting laid is how much you pursue women and casual sex, how much you put yourself in position to get laid. There’s really attractive guys who have a low body count becuse that’s what they chose and then there’s guys that have high body counts because they went after it. >We have the bodybuilders whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:45 PM
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> i prefer guys taller than me ( though I have dated shorter Some guys don’t understand the difference between a preference and an absolute requirement. Height matters but it gets exaggerated. Of course most women would prefer a guy to be taller but I believe most women would absolutely date a guy who is slighty shorter than them if they dug him enough and found him attractive enough in other areas and when it comes to physical features height is whatever compared to face and physique- shoulders…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:10 PM
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This whole narrative that there’s this epidemic of women who are 5’s thinking they are 10s because of simps and social media, Is just a bullshit incel narrative. And The whole giga chads are fucking 5’s and then making those women only willing to be with 10’s is also a bunch of nonsense. The far majority of women don’t have these unrealistic standards, look at who most women are happily dating, guys who don’t exactly look like models nor are they rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:20 AM
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Saying someone wishes to be raped doesn’t even make any fucking sense. If someone wants it then it’s not rape. There are people who want to rape but Obvously no one wants to be raped. When women are actually raped it’s an awful experience that can cause long lasting trauma. The term rape fantasy is so misleading, A fantasy is where you imagine something and gain pleasure from it, when women actually imagine being raped that’s a terrible vision, no woman would gain pleasure from that. What alot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:12 AM
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We all consume and enjoy fiction about things we don’t do or wouldn’t do, about people we wouldnt necessarily want to be like or be with for the sake of entertainment, , drama, catharsis. Again there’s some people who are just really weird in how they judge people for the fiction they enjoy, for the characters they like- there’s a difference between liking a charscter and liking the person that character is- condoning their actions as it pertains to real life. The way some people take things the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:30 AM
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Is it hypocritical for women like this to enjoy fiction that? I just don’t get how weird some people are about the fiction both men and women consume. Whether it’s women with their novels or men with their violent cinema and video games, loving villainous characters. People can be really weird about judging people for the fiction they enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:08 AM
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Chads harem … really ? lol.a harem is a where a guy has more than two women in a committed relationship with him. A guy having a lot of casual sex with different women is not a harem
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:16 PM
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Bro these women that have these “ insane standards don’t even come close to representing most women, why do you wanna exggerate that? Most women aren’t asking for much, look at the guys most women are dating, guys who don’t look like models nor are they rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:15 PM
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I mean why would you that’s still taller than the far majority of women. Also the thing about height is what’s listed as 6 ft isn’t actually 6 ft,women know damn well guys like about that shit lol, people lie because other people do. 5’10 guy sees all these 5’8 guys saying they are 5’10 and so he says he’s 6 ft lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:13 PM
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And do you match that energy ? this is something people really differ on and no man or woman should be bending too much to match someone’s energy. You have women who don’t want a guy texting a lot because they are not big texters themselves and then there’s women who want exactly what you want, they need more texts and faster Replies too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:02 PM
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Of course there’s liberal women who have, I mean a hook up is different than dating or marrying someone but even just talking about a hook up the far majority of liberal women would not knowingly hook up with a Nazi, any example of that is is an outlier. Women’s sex drives are different, they are not as strong or spontaneous, they are more reactive, they are looking for things to get the ick over. I keep thinking of that woman who met this super hot guy on the beach and she canceled the date 15 …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:54 PM
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>The situation will not change unless instead of blaming men and patriarchy for their bad choices Bro the same could be said about you lol. >and understand men they are attracted to have abundance of women under their hands to give them freedom to treat women as expendable options and they will get hurt over and over again There’s actually not a strong correlation between men being really attractive and not being willing to commit to a woman/ not treat women well. This is just an anti Chad talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:43 PM
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Such a great Comment. Don’t you just despise this “ nice guy “ greivence bullshit? The way these entitled dipshits want to act like they are morally superior is pathetic. And notice how they demonize masculine men, they are the guys who demonize masculinity the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:37 PM
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lol most men are not selfless doormats for women, a lot of men are but its definitely not most . >they still choose the men that make for risky partners. That’s such a generalization, what do you mean by that? There’s some women who are dating really risky guys but not most. And the thing is these guys who are doormats sometimes fucking snap. Men who are doormats are not really not reliable or safe partners. Women need good masculine, men who have self respect, have self control, who have back b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:34 PM
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Even if there’s something about you that is just such a deal breaker to 95% of people, that 5% is still plenty of fish in the sea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:23 PM
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I mean of course he would be able to find other women but this would definitely prevent a lot of potential women from wanting to be with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:19 PM
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What’s the obession with hybrisophiles, that’s such a really small fringe minority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:19 PM
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You can find plenty of examples of women who wouldn’t care but That would be a huge turn off to most women bro.. key word being most.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:17 PM
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>I think the point is that being a nazi rapist doesn't restrict someone from getting into relationships. Obvously it doesn’t you restrict you entirely, of course there’s people out there for everyone but the point is It makes you less attractive to most people than you otherwise be, it would prevents most from wanting to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:16 PM
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Men and women are still better off being decent than not when it comes to dating, it makes you more appealing to most people, to better quality people , leadings to better quality relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:07 PM
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Do men reward dishonest and immoral women any less than women reward dishonest and immoral men? God knows men are not any less guilty of falling for bad women, women who are mean, who are abusers, cheaters, gold diggers. Men are just as likely to be victims of domestic abuse. I’ve been seeing people say if men stopped dating bad women there would be no more bad women or if women stopped dating bad men there would be no more bad men and that’s just stupid. There’s always going to be shitty people…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:12 PM
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>Women always want a maybe guy What most women want is a yes guy that isn’t desperate and has self respect. Women not saying a guy who is desperate isn’t them wanting a maybe, when they want a maybe it’s in-spite of him being a maybe. >Thats why when a men shows loyalty to women they stop having sex w him, thus leading to dead bedrooms. Dead bedrooms happen becuaee of loyalty ? lol is that what you are saying? >you must always be mysterious. And what does that look like exactly? Both men and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:07 PM
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As a man I just really hate the way you are frame things in this post. Regarding 1) The guys who are more confident in approaching women are not morally inferior to the guys who are too scared to approach women. Are some guys jerks who don’t care about a woman’s feelings ? Sure but the far majority are good dudes who are respectful of women. To be a good man it requires confidence, assertiveness, back bone. The guys who are scared to approach women, Im not saying they don’t care about the women …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:33 PM
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Men are far more obsessed with that guy than women are. The amount of men that bring up him online and use his likeness is wild lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:21 PM
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Yeah I think Italian American food is better than Italian food.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:59 PM
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No studies don’t prove otherwise. Those studies don’t show those women being attracted to those dark traits specifically. What studies overwhelming show is most women are attracted to men who are prosocial, masculine, confident, assertive, strong, dominant rather than domineering, kind, considerate, empathetic, generous. The thing is people with dark traits often have conventionally attractive qualities, they are manipulators who use superficial charm. There’s a big difference between actually f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:33 PM
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People use the term bad boy/ girl in different ways, most people use the term playfully meaning not a bad person but someone who is wild, rebellious, hedonistic but this person seems to use the phrase really liberally and playfully, which I’ve noticed alot of people do. But however you use the term, most women do not bad boys, most are not specifically attracted to bad boys. The women who are are a minority of women who are bad girls in that way, like attracts like. What most women want are masc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:09 PM
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Who wants to find a bad boy? Are we using that like how we call hot women baddies now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:57 PM
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>The idea of men either being the sexually exciting “bad boy” or the boring, nice, “provider” is a false dichotomy. And that’s a stupid corny ass way to frame it lol. The way to frame for AF is masculine, strong, good looking, fit. I don’t want to hear the term “ bad boy “ in that. And the BB is not necessarily boring or nice, he can funny or boring, he can nice or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:55 PM
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I’m a dude you fucking goof lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:41 PM
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The reason that there’s more average men who are lonely and single doesn’t have anything to do with women’s standards, it’s the fact that technology has incentivized a lot of men to stay home and rot behind a screen rather than go out and socialize. There’s lot of men who are getting all their entertainment from a screen, all their socialization form a screen, all their sexual release from a screen. It’s no wonder guys are dating less and having less sex, it’s no wonder guys are lonelier than ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:24 PM
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First I want to clarify that I am a dude. When people hate on “ nice guys” they are taking about guys who have shown they aren’t actually genuinely nice, that they feel entitled to a woman fucking them/ dating them. I can’t stand these fuckers lol and there is a female equivalent, there are “ nice girls”, these men and women fucking suck.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 09:27 PM
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by succesful do you mean like a billionaire type of successful ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:41 PM
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Uh.. The boyfriends…and again people are too quick and eager to belive the boyfriend to be an abuser- and not just women but men, male police officers etc have a terrible history of fucking over innocent men or men who are actually the victim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 06:40 PM
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As a ex con and former criminal who’s dating a woman who is also an ex con I’ll say this, there’s more women than men who are dating ex cons but that simply because there’s far more male ex cons than female ex cons, there’s way more men than women who would be have no issue dating an ex con or current criminal, men are actually open minding on that. Ive gotten rejected by women because of my history where as my girlfiend said no man ever had an issue with her being in prison. >If men had as many…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:30 PM
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Yeah I think that’s bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:16 PM
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Stop putting pussy on a pedestal, most guys can have casual sex if they actually put themselves out there and not rely on dating apps. The typical casual sex scenario is an average man and average woman who met at a bar or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:05 PM
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The phrase nice guys finish last is in reference to passive pushovers not genuine nice people. Of course passive pushovers finish last. I’m seeing that it’s alot more common to point out the difference between a nice guy and a good man, which is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:02 PM
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You can tell the difference between the women who are getting tied up just to seem adventurous and fun and the women who genuinely really enjoy it. And no man or woman would want to date someone just because of morals, obviously there has to be enough of an attraction and connection but morals can really increase or decrease attraction. But yeah it’s cool how you’ve been attentive ( which is attractive itself ) and worked on being more attractive, how do you have a great touch and how did you de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:40 PM
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Really good attitude to have bro, it’s guys with this attitude that sexually satisfy women the most. It’s beneficial for us men to be that way. About you and your wife trying different things ? What kind of things ? Is the smut regular smut or BDSM stuff? Me and my girlfriend have tried so many different things, we are both total freaks but consuming any kind of pornographic material together is something we haven’t done, my girlfriend doesn’t read smut ( most women don’t) but i think I’m going …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:18 PM
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You are still taller than most women. Are you a legit 5’6 because so often people say they are not just one inch taller but multiple inches taller and they do so because it seems like everyone else is and so they feel they have to lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:13 PM
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Oh I’ll admit I would probably try to become a vampire if that was a real possibility,- only if you can walk around during the day though lol. But yeah again my whole point is just because someone enjoys a piece of fiction about whatever it doesn’t necessarily mean they want to be like those characters, first and foremost it’s about enjoying an entertaining suspenseful story and vampires are inherently interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:34 PM
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Of course there would but not as many who would enjoy a fictional story about them. There’s fantasy and there’s real life. Getting with a vampire and then becoming a vampire- immoral, powerful .. you can see the appeal of that and many men and women in real life would do it. The thing is real vampires would be more scarier to women, they probably wouldn’t be as as empathic as the vampires in novels they enjoy - because those fictional vampires are often kinder than most human men are. But yeah I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:27 PM
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>Men were lied to by the media about what women want" if you read women's romance novels, the male love interest is a tall, billionaire vampire. The only pieces of fiction that promote the idea that meek, average, shy guys get hot girls are created by men. Remember that with today's money, Mr. Darcy would be a billionaire. Well Anyone who uses fiction to decide what men or women want is being foolish. Obvously I’m aware of the rich vampire characters in romance fiction but as a guy I think it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:54 PM
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Some guys really need to know that if they don’t physically escalate women will just think he’s not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:25 PM
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There for a while the majority of women were still in support for him but that’s gone now. I will say it’s good that most women are not going to automatically go against a guy because women have made allegations.
/r/MensRights09/07/26 02:24 PM
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I honestly don’t see where you get this idea that vanishingly few understand that a partner is more likely to harm you then a stranger, domestic abuse against women is constantly talked about,a lot of people are acfually too quick to call a woman’s boyfriend an abuser. I’m just glad the past few years we’ve finally seen male victims of DV acknowledged and supported more, there’s def been some progress there a least.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 02:18 PM
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Man wooo weee this comment is some serious “ nice guy “ grievance bullshit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 12:32 PM
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Well don’t know what to tell you because I’ve listened to alot of women’s takes on this film and the overwhelming majority of women liked bear in the beginning. I don’t know where you are getting this notion that women as a whole were just looking to hate him. A lot of women ( and men ) were frustrated when he chose not to tell Nikki he liked her but they weren’t hating him at that point but what followed later on made most women and men justifiability hate him. Yeah of course he didn’t Know the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 12:31 PM
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Who doesn’t understand that the people most likely to physically abuse you is a romantic partner who you are alone with constantly, someone you are most likely To argue with because of such emotional intensity and proximity …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 11:26 AM
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I just really object to any suggestion that as a whole passive men who are scared to approach women as morally superior to assertive men who do approach women. There’s a difference between a harmless man And a good man, there’s a difference between nice and kind. On the other side sure there’s predators and callous pieces of shit right But the far majority of assertive men are good dudes. To be a good man you have to have back bone. I’m not saying that guys who are passive and are afraid to appr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 11:24 AM
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I don’t see how what’s fascinating…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:55 PM
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That’s actually not necessarily true, humans are interesting creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:50 PM
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Bro you can’t go by what women read. I figured this out myself. I dated this chick who had 50 shades of grey on her shelf and when I saw that I got excited because I’m into that but she ended up being the most vanilla chick ever. She said you don’t have to be into BDSM to be interested in consuming a piece of fiction like that. There’s a reason those books became so popular, a lot of vanilla women bought them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:45 PM
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>Even as someone who likes something very niche in women that most men despise (see my flair) I see you’re a man of culture just like me :) >Meanwhile, erotica/romance novels aimed at women seem to near-universally feature a tall, strong, powerful/wealthy, traditionally masculine man with a very dominant personality. Definitely not universal, yeah typically the guys who are rather masculine and conventionally attractive male but there’s a lot where the main male love interest is not that masculi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:41 PM
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Women like masculine men but Men on their own definitely think a higher level of masculinity is more ideal than women do in every single metric, behavior, the amount of muscle, dysmorphic features.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:58 AM
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Typically the guys have a decent amount of muscular and are lean, not super jacked like a pro body builder. Women love fit men But erotic/ romance novels are really not the best way to make your case though. First off most chicks are not regularly reading those kinds of books, most women who read fiction are reading shit like hunger games where the romance and sex is not the main part of it. Women first and foremost read romance novels for the sake of entertainment, drama or Catharsis more so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:55 AM
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As a fit guy who would be the biggest advocate for telling men to get into shape to improve their dating lives I think it’s important to point out the main reason muscular guys have a higher number of sex partners is not attractiveness, it’s assertiveness. Guys who are more muscular typically pursue women more, they talk to and hit on more women, they play the numbers game and that’s the main factor when it comes to getting laid over looks or anything. More muscular guys are more confident in ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:31 AM
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No bringing up character is not saying that Looks doesn’t matter. And most men who would complain about sjnglehood wouldn’t have their moral character questioned, it’s just some men and some women complain in a really bitter and entitled way towards the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:33 AM
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What certainly wasn’t changed and won’t ever change is that men are def better off trying to get dates/ sex through approaching women in person/ nightlife than they would via dating apps. Dating apps limits a guy from being able to make things happen, and the apps are overwhelmingly male which puts men at a disadvantage. It’s men who are relying on the apps, not women. Men shouldn’t rely on them. The reality is women by and large want to meet men the old fashion way and that doesn’t have to be b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:15 PM
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It’s just always been a such a pleasure to give women pleasure for me. I genuinely just love women and as a seducer and a guy who wants to have sex with alot of women that’s a great way to be. I would just implore other guys to do your best to show the woman a good time, don’t just focus on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:44 PM
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A way for guys to get laid with women who out are out of their league is to go to bars and be settled for by women who went there to wanting to find a guy to fuck A tipsy women being like “ he’ll do is often how it gos rather rather than her waiting for some better looking dude to show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:30 PM
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Who is lying about it though? I’m not saying some people don’t lie but by and large women are not lying and saying looks don’t matter. what they want to make clear is that looks aren’t the only thing that matters- and highlighting that is not saying looks don’t matter because of course they do. Women are pretty up front about how much looks do matter, do we not all see women openly gush about guys they find good looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:38 PM
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What’s funny is how guys assume these dudes are chads. The typical situationship/ fwb is an average dude and an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:35 PM
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There’s a difference between finding specific dark triad traits attractive and finding a dark triad person attractive because of their non dark conventionally attractive traits or falling for their superficial charm/ manipulation. The dark triad is a flawed construct, it’s pop psychology bullshit. The issue is you have traits like boldness and domiance being considered dark when they are mostly positive traits that make for a good man. Of course it depends on the context. Theres forms and displa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:19 PM
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As a ex con myself let me tell you so many of the guys in prison were with fat chicks, it seemed like their girlfriends were mostly either fat or anorexic (meth) Whenever guys would show off their girlfriend I would have to lie and be like yeah you a lucky man 😂 but what you are talking PPD guys wanting to convince people they would wanna date an obese women like this and them getting jealous ? lol whos upset that this fat lady and this ex con are getting married ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:17 PM
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There’s a big difference in sex drive and the interest in wanting to have a lot of casual sex. A guy can have a really high sex drive but not be as interested in pursuing casual hookups. People who are intelligent and more educated are more likely to come from parents where they were raised in a way that makes kids less likely to grow up to be really promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:10 AM
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Who is she, link not working for me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:42 AM
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>I like big girls but she's genuinely fucking huge. this made me chuckle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:39 AM
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It’s quite dumb that he doesn’t factor that more educated/ intelligent men are simply not as interested ( at least in comparison ) in having a lot of casual sex with alot of different women. With a lot of what he said in the post you think he would but he doesn’t… it’s odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:27 AM
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Wait so you don’t factor in that smarter and more educated men are just not as interested ( at least in comparison ) in having a lot of casual sex with a lot of different women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:26 AM
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>It's very obvious that a lack of social awareness and low iq gets you laid.You always see at the club, the creepy ass guys who make women uncomfortable and get rejected like 10x won't go home alone because eventually someone will find his boldness amusing. The biggest factor in how much you get laid is how much you pursue women, how many women you hit on but we shouldn’t say a lack of self awareness or low iq gets you laid when that specifically makes most women more likely to reject you all be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:25 AM
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The bigger factor when it comes to men and the number of women they have sex with is pursuit and thus confidence and assertiveness. Looks and all these other things matter alot but it’s not the biggest factor. It’s a numbers game. The more often you pursue women and casual sex, the more women you hit on the higher number of dates / sexual encounters you will get. It’s not complicated. There’s a difference between struggling to get laid vs a lack of getting laid as a result of not trying much. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:52 AM
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First off good for you bro but you gotta get out of your head that a higher body count makes you high value, if you wanna have sex with a lot of women then go for it and enjoy yourself, as long as you are not cheating on anyone then there’s nothing wrong with that. You can be high value and have a high body count or high value and have a low body count, to each their own. And how women judge’s a man’s body count is correlated with her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:15 PM
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First off good for you bro but you gotta get out of your head that a higher body count makes you high value, if you wanna have sex with a lot of women then go for it and enjoy yourself, as long as you are not cheating on anyone then there’s nothing wrong with that. You can be high value and have a high body count or high value and have a low body count, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:12 PM
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Also guys gotta stop putting pussy on a pedestal, so many guys who have really high body counts are really mediocre drug addicts who shot their shot and thus got laid with a lot of mid or unattractive female drug addicts. There’s not a really strong correlation between high value/ attractiveness and body body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:10 PM
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Why would someone think you hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:07 PM
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At least you thought they were- not trying to be a dick but only such a small percentage of women are actually okay with one sided open relationship ( even if the guy is so great) and these women who get into them are more likely to cheat because they would feel less guilty about it. But yeah How many women did you date where it was agreed to be one sided?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:53 PM
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I wouldn’t say it doesn’t help much, it’s just no man or woman would want to date someone just because they are kind, Obvously there has to be enough of a physically attraction and chemistry but on top of that if someone really has the values and moral character you want it really enhance’s attraction, especially for women. But finding out someone’s moral character takes a lot more time than finding out if you find them physically attractive and feel a vibe with them Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:32 AM
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AF = asshole ? And there’s no actual asshole behavior that is desirable to most women- key word being most, the thing is there’s a lot of people who wrongfully called an asshole for being assertive , having back bone and boundaries. A lot of people use that word really liberally or playfully but an actual asshole is what you said, someone lacking empathy, being really inconsiderate, lacking accountability. I remember my cousin telling me I was being an assole around these girls because I was pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:29 AM
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Hardly anyone is telling someone they must be a bad person because they are unsuccessful at dating unless come across as bitter or entitled towards the opposite sex. And when people says not being an asshole is helpful they are not saying that there’s not asshole men or asshole women who find people to date them, (Obvously there are and confident assertive assholes who are social and make moves will always have an advantage over shy scared people) they are just saying that not being an asshole m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:22 AM
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Hardly any woman claims that that though, what a lot of women say is that being a good person makes you more appealing to a high number of people, better quality people, leads to better quality relationships. Obvously you can be an asshole man or asshole woman and find people willing to date you, no shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:19 AM
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Because they know it bothers men, if men saw having a big dick as shameful then they would use that as an insult. When women say a guys dick is too many men would just find it flattering- not me, until I got with my girlfriend I was wishing mine was smaller to be able to be more compatible with most chicks vaginas, I’m just glad now that I have a girlfriend who can take my size well, only a small minority of women can take a big dick well so it’s stupid as a guy to wish you had a really big one …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:14 AM
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I mean a guy who likes to party and have an open relationship isn’t necessarily a man child is he? And come on bro, most women don’t reward that, key word being most. I see women say that men reward hoes, crazy bitches more too lol. It’s silly to say you got the most women during that time when you were a degenerate because by definition fucking a lot of women is what’s degenerate according to polite society. and by degenerate you just mean you liked to party and have an open relationship, I saw…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:08 AM
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A lot of men care a lot but you seriously exggerate it when you say any man is very concerned, plenty of men aren’t. There’s no shortage of men who will happily wife up the biggest sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:46 AM
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Lol I swear as a guy as a guy with a big dick I can’t get over how silly and delusional guys are about dick size. The reality is the far majority of women can’t handle a big dick well and by handle well I mean to be able to be fucked hard and have a guy go balls deep with it being enjoyable than uncomfortable and painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:29 PM
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lol Men don’t choose based off character more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:22 PM
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The whole chads are hogging all their women, fucking 3s and making all these women 3’s only want Chad is such a bullshit incel narrative. Also there’s not a strong correlation between attractiveness and being willing to commit like some suggest there is. There’s chads who are on there to find someone to commit to, they find someone and they get off and as chads are getting off the apps there’s chads that are coming on them. When it comes to online dating of course there’s a disparity and the rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:40 AM
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That is true, those profiles are shown more, also a lot of guys don’t know if they swipe right on too many people their profile becomes less visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:33 AM
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The point is Weak shy men are the men who who approaching women and interacting with them the least. And also there’s a difference between disliking someone and not finding someone attractive. Men put themselves in the friend-zone bro, as a man I think it’s important to tell guys this. If you are interested in a woman then you should shoot your shot and you can’t just be friends with her then you should move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:40 AM
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There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging that a evil man or evil woman is physically attractive, that has nothing to do with what they did but fantasying about them is different, a good portion of women could find someone like bundy handsome but 99% would be repulsed at the idea of fantasizing about him -if they believed he was guilty of the crimes he was accused of
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:34 AM
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Out of hundreds of millions of people of course he would.. that’s not exactly significant is it? Of course he would have some sickos writing love letters to him. The point is if you murder innocent people you become less attractive to 99% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:31 AM
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>Once exposed as mass murderers, they were instantly enormously popular with women Obvously if they get famous where hundreds of millions of people come across them while seeing the news they are going to have some fans but the amount is so insignificant. If you murder innocent people you become less attractive to 99% of women. Yeah there’s small fringe amount of women who don’t care about care about those innocent people, who even find that to be a turn on. Just like there’s evil men there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:28 AM
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That’s true but to say women dislike that more than violent pieces of shit is just ridiculous, Obvously that’s true for some women but not for the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:23 AM
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The amount is so insignificant though. Of course of hundreds of millions of people there’s gonna be some sickos writing love letters to these people. There’s always going to be people like that but it gets so blown out of proportion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:21 AM
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And you think bad men do that so much more than good men? And again what kind exact actions are you taking about ? Because I used to do some really bold risking like being a criminal and robbing people but things that like that are very unattractive to most Obviously. Of course it depends on the context, big difference in robbing innocent people and robbing some piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:18 AM
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Are you being serious ? lol because I honestly can’t tell. She dumped me because she saw what a piece of shit I was, because what she saw disgusted her and went against her ethics. She didn’t dump me because I didn’t have the power to get away with it, she dumped me before I got locked up btw. >brutalizing others, using them for your own benefit and sharing those benefits with your woman. That's hot. Hot to who? What kind of women? Most women aren’t down for that shit. I used to steal and people…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:11 AM
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What the fuck are you taking about? No the hell they don’t. There’s physical attraction and attraction to them as a person overall, nothing wrong with finding a evil man or evil woman to be good looking, (that has nothing to do with their character ) all women expect for the ones that are really sociopathic would find these guys disgusting. If you look at the true crime communities which are like 65% female one thing they don’t tolerate is any glorification of serial killers, they absolutely des…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:50 AM
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And 99% would be repulsed at the idea with being with the men the OP listed. These women that wanna be guys like ted bundy they are different than 99% of women, their brains are wired differently, they don’t feel empathy for the innocent victims like normal women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:56 PM
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But how come 99% of women would a find serial killer ( one who murdered innocent people ) repulsive even though he shows strength… because of morals and affective empathy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:54 PM
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If you think being a serial killer - not even one like dexter who went after bad people but one who murdered innocent people for their own sick enjoyment is more appealing to a higher percentage of women than being a shy man is the you out of your fucking mind lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:51 PM
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Good So you are like 99% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:42 PM
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A back bone is a requirement to be a good man. A good man is a strong man. Without a back bone what are you ? Nice? Agreeable ? What the fuck is that? What’s the substance there? That’s not moral conviction, that’s not moral courage. But when it comes to putting bad men with a back bone before men without a back bone it depends on the degree on how bad the guy is and the degree of a lack of back bone- in terms of a woman’s preference because there’s a difference between a guy who’s an asshole an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:41 PM
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>I would say it would be Good men who are bold risk-takers > bad men who are bold risk-takers > bad men who don't take bold risks > good men who don't take bold risks It depends on what we see exactly talking about when we talk about bold risk taking and bad men because Obviously there’s a spectrum there. if we talking about an actually really bad dude rather than a guy who’s just an asshole then I would put him last. There’s different kinds of bold risk taking, a really bad dude is going to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:35 PM
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Good or bad doesn’t matter ? Lol what. And What about other people? Most women are not sociopathic , most care about how you treat others, hell most chicks get turned off if you are rude to a waiter for fuck sake lol one of the most common talked about icks. But yeah I wish you could have told my ex that, she dumped me for knocking a guy out - because he did not deserve that, it was assault and I got locked up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:06 PM
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No man or woman would really want someone just based on morality alone but of course it has an effect on attraction. So when getting to know a woman her revealing herself to a bad person or good person in your estimation doesn’t impact your overall attraction to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:04 PM
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Expect alot of the men in the alpha fucks category are not alpha, they are just better looking or have more attractive personalities. Alot of these dudes women are fucking are rather wimpy guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:48 PM
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Anger gets men in far more trouble than crying does ( of course rage and crying often gos hand in hand) , both with relationships and legal trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:35 PM
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Yeah wanting a guy to be vulnerable is not them wanting a guy to be vulnerable in any way, a guy being vulnerable, that can be a lot of things. Women are not lying or hypocritical when they say they want a guy to be vulnerable or open up to them just because they may be turned off when he does because you can’t put all forms of being vulnerable into the same category. Being vulnerable is risky, that’s why we call it that, you are opening yourself up to be hurt. It’s risky but what we shouldn’t s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:32 PM
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Why is this gendered though, as a guy it’s weird how some Guys want to put men into all these Categories of good and bad but yet women are just women. Just like there are bad men there are bad women and men are just as guilty of going for bad women. No one would want to date someone just because they are nice and yeah of course there’s people who prefer Straight up bad people specially because they are bad - and that’s other bad people, like attracts like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:05 PM
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It’s not so much they look for it- that’s actually really offensive to victims to project that on to them, it’s that it’s been normalized or them and so they are more prone to accepting it and of course self esteem plays a big role. People who end up being abusers can seem wonderful. Abusive relationships typically don’t start off abusive, what happens is it’s something that gradually escalates over them, typically after an emotional attachment has been taken place. Some people are more prone to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:59 PM
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No. Men are just as guilty of going for really bad women. And Men are just as likely to be victims of women as women are of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:55 PM
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Men are about just as likely to be abused and more likely to stay with an abuser, difference is men are less likely to be killed by their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:12 AM
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You seem to characterize women as more risk adverse than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:10 AM
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Yeah the OP is a weirdo. Also Christian grey in 50 shades never sexually assaulted Ana, I don’t get why the OP is saying that. There was some problematic behavior but there was no sexual assault, it was entirely consexual and the BDSM in that series is rather tame, me and my girlfriend expected it to be more edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:33 AM
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wtf is he talking about with 50 shades ? Christian grey has some problematic behavior but he never committed assault or or abused her. Me and my girlfriend finally watched those films and she read the novels and we were both surprised at how tame it is. We just kept waiting for something more edgy to happen from Christian to Ana, at the end of the first one as she’s leaving him I’m thinking maybe he will hold her against her will but no nothing like that at all and the whole series he’s projecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:26 AM
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>OBSESSION (2026) was NOT about 🍇, it was about women's fear of not being able to negotiate their own desire Both bro.. >The idea that Nikki and Bear's story was about rape, does not make sense. It doesn't fit the archetype of rape, Bear doesn't fit the archetype of a rapist, the situation and narrative doesn't fit the archetype of rape, whether thats stereotypically or statistically IRL. Besides the supernatural element it’s a very realistic portrayal of sexual assault. Most rape is committed b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:55 AM
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Everything I’ve said is true. Answer me this, what penis size do men need to be able to give most women vaginal orgasms?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:27 AM
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😂You got issues my man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:38 AM
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Wow this is a bunch of nonsense. I very much know how sex works, Im very well read on vaginas. it seems you are the one lacking in knowledge there from what you’ve said here. I am a guy with a big dick ( both length and girth wise ) that has a lot of sexual experience and I’m telling you this is very wrong, not just from my own experience but from what the research says. The majority of women can enjoy sex with a man with a big dick but a majority of women can not take a big dick well and what I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:00 AM
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What a bunch of fucking nonsense lol. Obvously size matters, the reason why women say it doesn’t matter is because only a small percentage of dicks are exteme being too small or too big, most dicks can be worked with. But good sex has far more to do with skill than with size. If a guy has a dick that is smaller it’s up to him to use skill to work around that and it’s the same with a guy who has a big dick, he can’t fuck as hard or go pelvis to pelvis with most women, do certain angles and positi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:05 PM
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Having a big dick really limits you with most women, most women can not take a big dick well, you can’t fuck as hard and as deep as you want to with most women which fucking sucks- and most women want a guy to be able to go buck wild and pelvis to pelvis but to where it feels enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:59 PM
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Besides the divorce rates because of first world women having more independence All of what you said is true for most women in first world countries. Most first world women are happy to do some housework lol, especially if it gets appreciated. And Most women in any country do what’s called assortative mating, women from working class backgrounds typically date and marry working class men, women who are more educated and wealthy typically marry men who are more educated and wealthy. What we are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:09 PM
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That definitely doesn’t make it a moot point. I know it’s a problem women have as well but we were discussing men here. The issue is people not getting out enough and socializing enough and with men’s increased screen time there’s more of an association with reduced offline socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:02 PM
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That’s just guys making excuses for themselves. Any man who gos out into the world can see that any guy can get a girlfriend, you can be ugly, fat, weird, broke etc, for every kind of guy there are women that will be down. Now with that said I think every guy should try to commit to self improvement and become the best versions of themselves. Most women when they are asked out by men they find unattractive men do not freak out or cause a scene because in most cases the guy is chill and respectfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:52 PM
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Most of the men in need of “ fixing” are flawed but not horribly flawed to where they don’t care about morals. Most women don’t have any interest in having to fix someone, most want a finished product. I was talking to my girlfriend about this the other day and she said wanting to fix someone is more of a masculine impulse and she’s right. We are both recovering addicts and Obviously there are more women who are dating drug addicts but that’s simply because male addicts outnumber female addicts.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:04 PM
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Men don’t say “ where have the good women gone “ in that exact phrasing as much but men make the same sentiments and complaints for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:57 PM
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To be fair the phrase “ nice guys finish last is in reference to passive pushovers, not genuine nice guys. Few people would use that phrase to mean genuine nice guys let alone good men, because there is a difference between nice guys and good men which most red pillers would distinguish. Only a small minority of retarded red pillers would say women don’t want a good man, The point is no man or woman would want someone just because they are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:55 PM
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>The criticism is because women will "say" I can't find a good guy. But their definition is the good guy that is the 6666 man. lol that’s a projection onto the women. Most of the chicks who say “ I can’t find a good guy” don’t actually require those 6’s. But yeah Obviously when someone says they want someone who is good or kind etc they don’t mean anyone who is good or kind, they mean someone are attracted to and feel compatible with. They shouldn’t have to say someone they find attractive, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:53 PM
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The majority of women in expensive cities are dating men who make less than 100 k…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:45 PM
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It’s self inflicted. The issue is the advancement of technology has incentivized a lot of men to rot behind a screen at home rather than go out and socialize. Of course that has led to more men not getting laid. There’s a lot of men who are getting all their entertainment from a screen, all their socialization from a screen, all their sexual release from a screen. The thing is guys like this can snap out out of it and make things happen for themselves if they choose to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:44 PM
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This notion that chads are hogging all the women is bullshit,and there’s not even a strong correlation between male attractiveness and being willing to commit. Women don’t need monogamy enforced upon them, it’s what the overwhelming majority of them naturally want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:40 PM
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I did mention that women are more likely to marry someone they don’t find attractive. Marriage is for stability But it’s tragic IMO when people marry where the stability factor far outweights attraction and desire, men and women should try their best to make sure this isn’t the case. The thing is a lot of men and women seem to be okay with this, there’s a lot of men who lead on their stability and Their ability to provide rather than try to find someone who desires them more or put in the effort…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:36 AM
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It entirely depends, some people are better or worse off at different ages, it all depends on the choices you make. There’s people who are living their best lives in their 50s because they finally stopped being fat asses lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:56 AM
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It entirely depends, some people are better or worse off at different ages, it all depends on the choices you make.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:56 AM
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Why do you mention that’s a surprise since you are 40, are the you saying it’s mostly women under 30 or over 50 approaching you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:55 AM
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But not because they are genuinely nice. The phrase is saying that specifically is why they finish last, passivity and being a doormat is what makes peole finish last, not genuine nice people - or fake nice people who are convincing and assertive/ have back bone. There’s a reason people engage in superficial charm, it’s beneficial. What’s not being beneficial is biting passive, a pushover, being overly agreeable - which is not genuine niceness, that’s selfishness rooted in fear. And Obvously no …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:47 AM
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>My point is that it seems pretty clear women don’t make dating decisions based on politics Some women dating nazi’s doesn’t mean women don’t make dating decisions based on politics. Obviously many women do. Obviously a guy being a Nazi would be a turn off to most women, key word being most- it’s not just that some women are okay with a guy being a Nazi, some women are Nazis themselves and so a guy being a Nazi to them is a plus lol. People choose to date and not date someone on a variety of fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:39 AM
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Bro what is your fucking point? lol what is the obesssion with pointing out the women who date Nazis ? Saying that certain beliefs makes you less attractive to most women is not denying that some women are okay with those things, Obvously there are women who are okay with _____ there are female Nazi’s etc. And yeah of course misogynistic men and misandrist women would be more appealing to the opposite sex if they less so misogynistic and misandrist. people like this still find partners but the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:18 PM
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There’s not nearly as strong of a correlation between being a Chad and being non monogamous like some would suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:10 PM
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How do men who make these comments reconcile with the fact that men are just as guilty of dating bad women? And they know damn well they wouldn’t want to date a woman just because she’s nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:57 PM
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The phrase “ nice guys finish last “ is in reference to passive pushovers, not genuine nice guys. Passive pushovers definitely finish last.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:55 PM
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Dude you said it was hard to find a woman who hasn’t been in an abusive relationship and you now here you are concluding that the majority of women have not been in one. If the number is 1-10 for men then that’s not actually rare but it’s definitely more than 1-10 men who have been in a relationship where a woman was physically abusive, it’s just men are less likely to even see themselves as victims because they are the stronger sex and this whole notion that men can’t be victims of women. >i kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:59 PM
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>It's pretty rare for a man to be in an abusive relationships, but it's hard to find a woman that hasn't been in You don’t seem well informed at all. It’s not even remotely rare for men to be victims of abuse and it’s not hard to find women who haven’t been in an abusive relationship. 1 in 3 women report having been in a relationship that’s abusive and so the majority of women claim to never have been in an abusive relationship. >All the abusive guys I know also do great in the dating pool and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:36 PM
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What is your deal? And men are just as likely to be victims of abuse, a lot of men date abusive women, would you think it’s fair to characterize men as liking abusive women ? You’re implying people want to be abused, no one wants to abused. There are men and women who have certain kinks but that’s not abuse if that’s consexual, there’s a big difference between that and actual abuse. And the reason why men and women stay with their abusers requires more empathy and understanding rather than ridic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:17 PM
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Most women don’t want bad boys, the women who specifically want bad boys are bad girls- like attracts like. What most women want are guys who are confident and have back bone, that doesn’t make a guy a bad boy. Kinda silly to call an abuser a bad boy/ girl though lol. People typically use those terms playfully for men and women who aren’t actually bad but ya know wild, hedonistic, rebellious. >but I still never cheated or assaulted a woman, but I guess that's what it takes sometimes Wait what do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:44 PM
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The phrase” nice guys finish last “ is not in reference to genuine nice people, it’s in reference to passive pushovers, yeah Obvously those people finish last. When women say they want a nice guy no shit they don’t mean that, they mean a genuine nice guy with a back bone, and of course one they personally find attractive enough and feel a connection with. No man would want a woman just because she’s nice and it’s the same for women when it comes to men. But yeah when it comes to settling down an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:35 PM
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No the problem is they think their niceness should entitle them to a woman fucking/ dating them, genuine nice people don’t think or act like that. And yes being a good person does make you more appealing to most people than you otherwise would be but of course no man or woman would want someone just because they are a good person, Obviously there has to be enough of an attraction and connection etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:43 PM
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What a ridiculously stupid fucking comment, . so if someone reads a fictional story about abusive toxic people then it’s hypocritical for them to speak against that behavior in real men ? I can’t get over how dumb this comment is. Just because people enjoy fiction whether it’s novels, movies/ tv shows/ video games where the main characters do bad things it doesn’t mean they condone those things. My favorite show is thesopranos and one of my favorite characters is Tony soprano, he’s a murderer, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:01 PM
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If you are toxic that makes you less attractive to most women than you otherwise would be. What most women want are masculine men, men who are confident, strong, have back bone, that’s not toxic. These are things that make for a good man. A good man is a strong man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:49 PM
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Depends on what specific behaviors we are talking about. There’s alot of men who get a lot of women who exhibit behaviors that are as individual qualities unattractive to most women. Mimicking confidence, extroversion, assertiveness, asking out more people, - will make you more attractive and lead to more success. Bullying people - that’s unattractive to most people. Both men and women who are more anti social/ mean typically reporter a high number of partners and some retards want to interpret …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:45 PM
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>Yes, obviously wielding power over other men is more attractive than... I dunno, donating to charity? Helping old ladies pet puppies? lol is that what you think? And it depends on what you mean wielding power over other men, being confident, strong and being a leader is attractive to most, being a bully? That makes someone much less attractive to most people Than they otherwise would be obviously. >What is "being a good person"? You do have to have a backbone to be a bully, it takes strength an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:07 PM
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Who thinks that’s better ? Why are you being so hysterical? Being a good person requires back bone. There a difference between nice and good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:04 PM
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I mean it’s pretty obvious why a man or woman who’s a bully who puts themselves in more positions to find dates is going to have more success than people who may be nicer but too shy and timid, doesn’t go out much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:03 PM
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It depends. Just because a man or woman dates someone it doesn’t mean they approve of all of their behaviors and often men and women date a bully not really knowing how much of a bully they are to other people. Both men and women who are bullies report having a higher number of partners but that’s not because bulling is attractive, ( being a bully makes you less attractive to the far mentor of people) their personality leads to them pursuing casual sex more and having more partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:01 PM
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Is that because bullying itself is more attractive than being a MIT student ? Of course not. Both men and women who are bullies are more likely to report a high number of partners and this makes sense because promiscuity is a symptom of anti social and cluster b personalities. These men and women pursue dates and sex more, they are less able to hold down a relationship, more likely to cheat, more likely to do drugs, all of these things leads to them having a higher number of sexual partners- whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:54 PM
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It’s self reported and people can lie but it adds up. Both men and women who are more anti social/ higher in cluster b traits report having a higher number of sex partners and this makes sense. Promiscuity is a symptom of that. These men and women pursue casual sex more, they are less able to or less interested in holding down a relationship which leads to more relationships, they are more likely to cheat, more likely to do drugs, all of these things lead to a higher number of sexual partners bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:42 PM
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Very few women actually have an absolute requirement for a guy to be a legit 6 ft to date her. And most guys who say they are 6 ft are not even 5’11 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:23 PM
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There really hasn’t been this large increase in women trying to get with higher status guys as there was before, a lot of guys just think that.You got these morons like fresh and fit who think that 40% of college women are being flown to Dubai by rich dudes and that’s a just absurdly wrong estimation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:21 PM
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Such a bullshit narrative .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:13 PM
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Most of the men women are having casual sexual with are average dudes. You dorks gotta stop putting pussy on a pedestal and acting like a dude who has a lot of casual sex must be some giga Chad. The biggest correlation between a high number of sex parners when it comes to men are not looks or money, it’s the level of pursuit, it’s the guys who simply pursue women and casual sex a lot more than most guys do , they don’t rely on dating apps and they go out and talk to/ ask out a lot of women, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:04 PM
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Oh we got some “ nice guy” greivence up in here don’t we ? Do you not see how pathetic that mentality is? Those women don’t know how you would treat them, maybe you would be better or worse but they aren’t going to bother finding out if they don’t find you attractive enough to begin with - and neither would you when it comes to a woman. You say you are not exciting and a lot of men and women would say that about themselves but that’s not as unattractive as the kind of energy I get from your comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:56 PM
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of course men and women are going to be more forgiving to those they like and have formed emotional attachments too. And the lower a man or woman’s self esteem is the more forgiving they will be more, the more BS they will put up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:25 PM
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My last two girlfriends I met at a grocery store and a gym lol. The woman I’m with now is the one I met at the gym. I didn’t just approach her while she was in the middle of a set. I waited for an appropriate time and that was when she was resting in between sets and she had made eye contact with me and that’s how how I got her number- over a year later and we are still together. When it comes to chatting up someone in a grocery store yes they may be busy but there’s no harm in being friendly an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:30 PM
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the far majority of women have never said that men should not approach women in public. A lot of guys have just wanted to exggerate that sentiment to make excuses for themselves to not approach women. And a common opinion I see people share is that the jerks are the ones who approach women and the guys who care about women’s feelings don’t approach which is such a load of shit to frame guys anxiety and fear as some selfless empathic thing when it’s overwhelmingly selfish. The men who are scared …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:21 PM
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It’s silly what people are referring to as a harem these days. A harem is when a guy has 3 or more women committed to him But yet I’m seeing dorks say a guy has a harem if he’s having casual sex with multiple women- who are fucking got her dudes. That’s not a fucking harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:09 PM
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lol Why did you say “ even if the guy has a huge cock”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:48 AM
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A lot of dudes go on about women not being loyal enough or too unforgiving but a lot of women are too loyal and too forgiving ..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:25 AM
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I mean people do often hide their true colors, it can take time to really know how someone is and that’s why a lot of men and women get involved with such people so it’s a valid excuse but of course there are many examples like this where the red flags were clear as day and yet they still gave the person a chance or chance after chance because they just really like the person enough. A lot of people shit on women for unforgiving but theres a lot of women who are too forgiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:50 AM
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Why say tingles rather than she found him attractive? That’s so corny lol. But yeah who are the women who would date a guy covered in ms-13 tattoos ? The female equivalent of that guy in morals more than less. And There are female gang members who can be just as ruthless as the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:23 PM
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That always gets so blown out of proportion. He got super famous in the media and so of course he was gonna get some fan mail from sickos , considering everything it was insignificant. The woman he married actually beloved in his innocence until he confessed and after that she dumped him and refused his calls before he was executed. She wasn’t some evil fangirl, she was just some naïve desperate unattractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:20 PM
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I’ve realized I’ve replied to his comments before on other threads and it was another “ nice guy” grievance type of comment, it’s def a trend for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:16 PM
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How pathetic do you have to be to run a twitter account like that? Imagine dedicating your time to that lmao. Also I love how giving flowers is represented as something only the purest and kindest of men do when the most sociopathic dudes give flowers too lol, a guy buying a woman flowers to try to make up for cheating or abusing her is a very typical. But yeah no man would want a woman just because he’s a good person, and it’s the same for women when it comes to men. Of course there has to be e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:04 PM
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How pathetic do you have to be to run a twitter account like that? Imagine dedicating your time to that lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:57 PM
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The thing is we can’t put all acts of violence in the same category. There’s justified and good acts of violence that would be attractive to some degree to most women and then there’s unjustified acts of violence that would be very unattractive to the far majority of women- which I regretfully use to partake in which led my girlfriend dumping me and me being locked up in the same night. I’m glad to say I’m no longer that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:19 PM
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That’s not why they are more “successful “ though. Both men and women who are more Anti social and are higher in cluster b personalities typically report a higher number of sexual partners and this makes sense because promiscuity is a symptom. these people pursue casual sex more, they hit on more people and so they have more partners, they have a harder time or less interest in holding down a relationship, they are more likely to cheat, more likely to do drugs, all these things lead to a Higher …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:15 PM
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I don’t think I like that Karen chick, I remember a clip of her defending” l nice guys” , red pillers or anyone who is pro masculinity should shit on “ nice guys” . When I put nice in quotations Obvously I’m not talking shit about genuine nice guys I’m talking about dipshits who act like they should be entitled to a woman fucking them because of their so called niceness. Genuine nice guys don’t act like that. And The real genuine nice guys are the tough guys who have back bone, neither these fak…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:06 AM
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What are red pillers truths? , not even red pillars agree exactly. The productive things of the red pill are common sense things that are not exclusive to the red pill, self improvement, get in shape, of course looks matter, of course confidence matters etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:37 AM
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What’s up with red pillers putting pussy on a pedestal? Most of the guys having casual sex are rather average dudes, not giga chads. The typical casual sex scenario is an average dude and an average woman. Of course these things matter a lot but The main correlation when it comes to men and having a high body count is not looks or money, it’s the level of pursuit, a lot of guys who arent very attractive get a lot of play because they don’t rely on dating apps and they shoot their shot with a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:34 AM
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I mean women get shit on for being too unforgiving to men but the reality is a lot of women are too generous and forgiving towards men. And yes a lot of women and men stay after an act of abuse was committed against them, to say it’s on them and not on the abuser after them is really gross. It’s one thing to blame the victim but it’s really wild how you see says not on the abuser anymore.. >Anytime men point out red flags in women its labeled as misogynstic/incel behavior and results in women te…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:28 AM
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Men are just as likely to be vicitms of abuse but with that said I wouldn’t generalize either men or women as being terrible at reading red flags, most me and women are pretty decent at it and abusers typically don’t start off abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:53 PM
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>So I don't think many women process a man getting into fights as a red flag. They only view violence as a red flag if directed towards them. What ? It depends on the context.if a guy is quick to escalate to violence unnecessarily then the overwhelming majority of women would see that as a red flag. Most women want a guy who is tough and can handle himself but they don’t want some POS brute which is regretfully used to be - which led me being dumped and thrown in jail. Your comment makes women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:37 PM
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Who is “ they” ? That’s a big turn off for the overwhelmingly majority of women. Most women get turned off at guys being rude to the waiter for fuck sake. Most women want a guy who can fight and will be able to stand up for them/ protect them but they certainly don’t want a guy who is so quick to violence, they want a guy who looks to deescalate a situation, they only want a guy to get violent if it’s absolutely necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:31 PM
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The biggest correlation for men and having a high body count is not looks or money, it the level of pursuit, the guys who get the most women simply pursue them more than most they don’t rely on dating apps, they regularly go put to try to hook up with loose women. They shoot their shot a lot, they play the numbers game. That’s why it’s retarded how a lot of dudes put pussy on a pedestal and act like if a guy has a high body count then he must be some giga Chad or high value man when that’s just …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:36 PM
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“ nice guys finish last “ refers not to genuine nice guys but passive pushovers where as the betas in AFBB refers to men who lack physical/sexual attraction but make up for it being providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:29 PM
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What’s retarded is characterizing women as disgusted by intelligence. What a lot of women are turned off by is is guys who are smart and so logical but yet have no fun bone in their body, lack of humor, no charisma and or good people skills, lack affective empathy. >Lol, those sexually successful fuckboys don't have "social intelligence" either, women just think they do because those guys are arrogant. Women think fuckboys have social intelligence because they are arrogant ? lol what. A fuckboy …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:25 PM
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This is such a “ nice guy “ greivence comment lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:02 PM
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Well typically “ nice guy” in quotations refers to a guy who feels entitled because of his niceness, so there’s two negative verisons of nice guy, the entitled dipshit and the someone’s who’s a passive, a pushover, desperate people pleaser. Obvously when women say they want a nice guy they don’t mean any of those things, they mean a genuince nice guy with a back bone. What they really mean is kind or good, because there is a difference between nice and kind, between nice and good. Those men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:00 PM
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Yeah That’s pathetic “ nice guy” greivence bullshit. And there are “ nice girls “ too. These people annoy the fuck out of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:53 PM
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There’s overt versions of NPD and then there’s covert versions, a lot of deep narcissists don’t even project confidence and are rather shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:30 PM
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It’s really understated how attractive confidence in women is to men. The women who go from shy overly agreeable mice women to being confident and even bold really figure that out. There’s a reason a book like “ why men love bitches “ is really impactful with a lot of women. My girlfriend has that book, “ bitch” doesn’t mean but ya know a confident woman who has back bone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:21 PM
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I personally wouldn’t advise hanging out everyday but how bad that is for attraction really depends on the person, some people require more distance for attraction to grow than others but one thing I’ve noticed is alot of guys exaggerate how much challenge and mystery women need. What really matters is the quality of those dates, how charismatic and fun of a person you are to be around, how sexy you make her feel in your masculine presence, how good you fuck her. >They will pull back at some poi…
/r/seduction21/06/26 05:21 PM
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Women tell other women the same thing about men, that men fall in love through distance. I’ve noticed that’s very common talking point in female dating advice circles. The thing is it massively depends on the quality of those dates, how charismatic and fun you are, how good you fuck them and it depends on the kind of person they are, some men and women more tome apart for attraction to grow than others.
/r/seduction21/06/26 05:01 PM
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>She needs to always have the feeling that she likes you a little more than you like her otherwise they lose interest lol so many women tell other women the same thing the other way around- that it only works if the man likes the woman more. It’s a bullshit advice either way, both men and women should just try not come across as desperate or needy, have self respect and boundaries. And like you said try to become more outcome dependent- that is def goof advice that a lot of people need for sure.
/r/seduction21/06/26 04:55 PM
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>Surely an abusive ex with a track record of battery and pet killing is somehow more pleasant than a boring guy with a stable job who will never raise a finger at his spouse that's worth cheating for Now you are bringing up pet killing? Again few woman would say the former is preferable. You want to throw the whole female gender under the bus because of a minority of women, it’s lame when either men or women do that. >Surely not because the woman in question prefer violence and excitement over c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:17 AM
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>Then why do a significant amount of women lust over men who are actual murderer's like Richard Ramires or Ted bundy Women who would send love letters to men like that are less 1% of women you fucking retard- sorry but what you are saying is retarded. Sick of you goofs blowing that shit our of proportion, these killers get really famous in the media and of course out of hundreds of millions of people you are gonna have some sickos admirers, considering how known they are and how atleast 1% of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:44 AM
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Oh you’re one of those guys huh… god this “ nice guy” Grevience bullshit is so pathetic I swear to god. First of all no man would want a woman just because she’s a good and it’s the same for women when it comes to men, of course there has to be enough of an attraction and chemistry. No man or woman would want someone they find boring and what people find boring differs to different sorts of people, different folks different strokes. Self proclaimed good Guys who act like they should be entitled …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:22 AM
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Not to the overwhelmingly majority of people…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:12 AM
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Being a degenerate makes you less appealing to most people than you otherwise would be… you become more attractive to a minority of really degenerate people but less to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:33 AM
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What percent of people are rewarding criminal behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:32 AM
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And some of those screenshots are fake- by fake I mean the women in the messages aren’t real women, it’s fake conversations. Anyone can fake this and then try to pass it off as real. Obvously there are women who would have no issue hooking up with a Nazi or a sex offender but I’ve seen some shit that is clearly fucking fake lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:59 AM
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Also people need to understand that just because a woman reads and enjoys a romance novel it doesn’t mean she wants that kind of relationship or kind of man the main character is, women first and foremost read romance for sake of entertainment, women are just more entertained by any sort of romantic stories whether it’s about supernatural beings or gay male hockey players- stories that don’t even involve women. A lot of romance novels have women glad they don’t have a relationship like this, a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:19 AM
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No shit, of course the people more likely to assault you is your partner that you are around and alone with all the time rather than than any stranger, that gos for both men and women. But the idea that because of that women should prefer weaker men as partners is fucking retarded. A weak man is still going to overpower most women, makes sense for women to prefer men who are stronger than most men because they would be best able to protect them from other men- you pointing out how people are mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:03 AM
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Rip to those 15 Americans who died but the US killed over 6,000 Iranians. It was a cruel domination.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:47 AM
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>However, the greatest attraction traits, especially for women, are novelty, and push-pull approval-seeking. No The greatest attraction traits are confidence and signals of strength. And it’s funny how you say “especially for women “ when things like novelty are greater attraction triggers for men and also push and pull is actually more effective for women seducing men than men seducing women. When it comes to the push-pull and how effective that is it depends, there’s a healthier version of it …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:43 AM
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What percent of women do you think would lose attraction to a guy for him crying over the loss of a pet?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:16 AM
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Well first off It’s good that you have never cheated, a huge portion of guys can’t say the same ( atleast not truthfully) and yeah fucking a taken woman is not nearly as bad as cheating on your girl but it’s still shitty and it should be still be avoided IMO. >Like I said, I am jadedmto an extent. I don't necessarily like the world is, but I need to function in it, I want to have sexual and romantic relationships, so I have to act accordingly. Bro you need to fuck taken women to be able to get l…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:24 PM
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Well complaining about women choosing abusive men over nice guys is just lame. And again men are Just as likely to be victims of abuse And it’s unfortunate when either male or female victims are victim blamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:21 PM
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>The fact is, if I stuck to my principals I would never be chosen for romantic relationships What the fuck do you mean, that makes no sense. You can go after untaken women bro lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:12 PM
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Of course Bad girls and bad boys have more sex- because They pursue it more, casual sex is bad boy/ girl behavior lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:08 PM
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>shrinking pool of nice guys who are waking up to women choosing abusive drop kicks over them 🤷 Men are just as likely to be victims of abusive women. How would you feel about women characterizing men this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:03 PM
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No man would want a woman just because she’s nice and it’s the same for a woman when it comes to men. Of course there has to be enough of an attraction and felt connection etc. But Obvously most men and women want to date genuinely nice and caring people, it makes you more appealing than you otherwise would be. Now by genuinely nice and caring I don’t mean being a total pushover or desperate people pleaser, or someone who bends over backyards for someone and invests way too much and way too earl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:01 PM
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Are there women who look for any excuse to paint a male character as a villian? Sure but do you really think that’s the majority of women who watched this movie. I’ve listened to a lot of women’s takes and almost all of them say they really liked and sympathized with bear at first. Don’t get why you have this idea that most women are just looking to hate the male characters, often women are looking to not hate male characters and overlook their flaws- and most women think bear/the actor is cute …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/26 04:36 AM
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>Not like approaching and being forward actively selects for men that care less about women. The far majority of men who are forward and approach women are decent dudes. I often see comments like this from guys where they this grievance against women and where they wanna act like passive men are morally superior than the more assertive men when they fucking aren’t.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/26 11:49 PM
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>Meanwhile in reality it’s overwhelming n the charming men they choose Well Obvously the man most likely to assault them is their boyfriend, he’s going to be the one around her the most and alone together. Same with how the men women choose are the are the women most likely to assault them- and men are just as likely to be victims of abuse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/26 11:23 PM
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> “ Obession was extremely popular because it fulfills the female notion that every lonley mid guy is securely a rapist monster who deserves to be miserable and alone “ and it’s true. Lol no that’s not true. The overwhelming majority of The female audience was rooting for bear at first, they felt a lot of sympathy for him but then he chose to sexually assault her when he knew the real Nikki was not consenting and was suffering.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/26 11:20 PM
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The whole “ there would be less horrible women if men stopped fucking/ dating horrible women or there would be less horrible men if women stopped fucking/dating horrible is stupid. There’s always going to be shitty people, there’s always going to be shitty men and shitty women who will support each other, low self esteem niave men women can take advantage of and low esteem niave men women can take advantage of. Let’s not blame men for women’s shitty behavior and let’s not blame woemn for men’s s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/26 09:18 PM
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There’s not a certain part in the film where you lost sympathy for him?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/26 02:37 PM
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Me and my girlfriend finally watched 50 shades of grey and she read the novels after and we were both surprised at how tame it is. Those feminists were full of shit, Christian is he’s flawed but he’s a decent guy and he’s more of a gentleman than most guys actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:17 AM
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You’re calling others clueless ? Lmao that’s fucking rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:16 AM
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lol Who is denying that there’s not immoral women? Saying that good moral character is important for most men and women ( which is absolutely is ) is not denying that plenty of men and women fuck and date horrible people. I don’t get why you insist of being so dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:03 AM
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She claims that guy raped her, do you automatically believe a woman’s rape allegations? Because I sure as hell don’t. Ashe cheated on her boyfriend, that shows poor character, was her boyfriend choosing her an example of good women losing out to horrible women? You gotta look at it like this, good men and women aren’t loosing out, the people that choose bad people over them typically are not kind of people quality men and women would really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:55 AM
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Uh yeah because I’m not feminist and Obviously men can be raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:51 AM
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From the art of seduction by Robert Greene. In London in 1769 Casanova met a young woman named Charpillon. She was much younger than he, as beauty as woman he had eve known with a reputation for destroying men. In one of her first encounters she told him straight out that he would fall for her and she would ruin him. To everyone’s disbelief, Casonova pursued her. In each encounter she hinted she might give in -perhaps next time, if he was nice to her. She inflamed his curiosity- what pleasure sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:50 AM
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It’s weird how you even shared it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:08 AM
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Yeah She probably wasn’t ever actually raped by that guy. Most women would never lie about this but a lot of women do and it’s not only heinous in how that hurts innocent men but heinous in that it hurts women who have actually been raped. When women are actually raped it’s horrible and can cause long lasting trauma. And it’s ridiculous what is often being considered “rape”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:04 AM
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>Opposed to you being s genuinely nice guy, but has had 0 success in your entire life seeing the school bully and awful men attracting women, it's easier to question if the problem if how you act (which in this case, respectful and nice). There’s a difference between a nice guy and a good guy. A good guy wouldn’t think like this. And just like there are awful men there are awful women. God knows men are just as guilty of dating awful mean women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:59 AM
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That woman is a rapist. Inmates can’t consent. Also it’s lame how when a male guard fucks a female inmate the narrative is what a predator he is but when a female guard fucks an inmate the narrative she was attracted to him because he’s a bad guy ! lol it’s fucking pathetic. The female and male guard who does this are the same, they are predators who took advantage of their power to fuck inmates who can’t consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:55 AM
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Guys like are legit fucking retards. There’s no reasoning with them. You say most women don’t want shitty men and they will just link you examples of women choosing shitty women as if those women represent most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:53 AM
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It’s not irrelevant, it’s very important but of course no man or woman would want to be sexual or romantic with someone just because they are a good person. No shit there has to wh enough of an attraction and connection etc. and the thing if you know instantly how physically attractive you find someone, and you know quickly if you feel a chemistry with them. Finding out how good of a person they are and how well you fit fit ? That takes a bit more time. People I really can’t stand are these men …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:49 AM
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- As he should be. But that’s not actually true. Plenty of women date total wimp lol. There’s actually never been a better time to be a wimp or weak man. Women are more tolerant of it than ever being actually. Def more so than women 50 Years ago. And like I said the less a man is confident/assertive/strong the less he’s able to be kind, there’s a difference between nice and kind. Nice is being agreeable, complimentary, conflict avoidant, often it’s fake or selfish where as kindness is of more su…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:40 PM
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Who said it’s important for all women? It’s not important for all women, just the far majority. No shit some women like bad men, just like there are bad men there are bad women and people are naturally attracted to those who are more than less the male and female versions of themsleves when it comes To personality, interests and values. What most women also value is dominance, now there’s positive forms of dominance that most women would find attractive and then there’s domineering that most wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:32 PM
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But men are no less guilty of falling for terrible women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:20 PM
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>Women constantly complain about bad men BUT constantly choose these men. This confuses people and they ask for an explanation. To be fair men are not less guilty of it. >Women constantly say they want nice guys BUT constantly do not choose them when they have the opportunity to. This confuses people and they ask for an explanation. No man would want to date a woman just Because shes nice and it’s the same with women when it comes to men. Of course there has to be enough of an attraction and con…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:20 PM
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Being immoral makes you less appealing to most people than you otherwise would be, that’s not saying an immoral person can’t find people to date them, of course they can because there will always be other immoral peope who will like the for what they are, people who lack self esteem who will tolerate being treated badly, a lot of shitty people will mask themselves and so good people fall fon shitty people…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:16 PM
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What percent of men and women do you think don’t care if the person they date is an asshole/bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:11 PM
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No. That’s not them saying they only care about that, that’s not them saying they would want to date anyone who is kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:02 PM
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Way more men than women would date felons. The only reason there’s more women than men dating felons is because there’s simply way more male felons than female felons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:06 PM
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What percent of women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:05 PM
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No man would want to date a woman just because she’s a good person and it’s the same for women when it comes to men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:00 PM
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Way more men would have no issue dating a female felon than the other way around, the reason why there’s more women dating felons than men is simply because there’s far more male ex cons than female ex cons. Both me and my girlfriend are reformed ed cons. She’s told me that no man ever has an issue with where I have been rejected for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:48 PM
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There’s a big difference between finding someone more appealing for being taken and being more willing to pursue a taken person. That’s why women don’t try to mate poach anymore than men do even though they rely more on social proof/ preselection it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:27 AM
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The far majority of women will fuck you within the 5 date window, you don’t have to deal with women who make you wait so long if you don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:17 AM
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Men are no less guilty at choosing Terrible women, and let’s be real actually more guilty of being more willing to. Men are more willing to knowingly get involved with a bitch they know is crazy, horrible, legit dangerous- because men are more risk adverse. Don’t stick your dick in crazy is such a phrase For a reason. >women love dark stuff but don’t want to admit it lol the women who love dark stuff have no issue admitting it you goof >To the fantasies they want to act out How does a man and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:08 PM
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Both male and female assholes typically have a higher number of sex partners - because they pursue casual sex more Compared to the general population. It’s not complicated and it makes total sense. Promiscuity and reckless sexual Behavior is a symptom of Cluster b personalities
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:00 AM
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That’s the issue with the dark triad construct and how it’s pop psychology bullshit. Domiance and boldness should not be characterized as dark traits- this is unfairly demonizing masculinity. These traits are overwhelmingly good positive traits that make for a good man. of course it depends on the context. There are forms of domiance that are attractive to most women and forms of dominance that would be unattractive to most women. Domiance and boldness for the most part are attractive traits to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:06 AM
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Nah it’s not that women specially prefer bad boys for casual sex, it’s that they prefer more conventionally physically attractive men who often are bad boys and personality matters less for short term mating than for long term mating. women are more willing to fuck a bad boy then want to be in a serious relationship with a bad boy. Also the people who engage in hookups and casual sex are more likely to be bad boys/ girls, casual sex is a bad boy girl behavior lol, there’s a spectrum of how much …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:50 AM
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>So the challenge isn't really whether attraction and value matter. Most people already agree they do. The disagreement is whether noticing those realities automatically makes someone entitled or bitter. I don't think it does. Who is saying that simply noticing those realities makes someone entitled or bitter ? It’s just clear judging by a lot of people’s commentary on it that they are bitter and entitled which is lame as fuck. I love all the self improvement from red pill but what’s really fasc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:12 PM
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The interesting thing about red pill is they promote this understanding of reality, that reality is right but yet for many they still hold on to this bitter entitled pathetic “ nice guy” mentality., like How dare attraction and value matter, how dare women not treat men equally. And when it come to women like Maxwell we need stop acting like there’s good and bad men and with women they are just women, that some women just happen to be with bad men. Just like there are bad men there are bad women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:42 AM
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According to research women do apologize more than men do. That has definitely been The case in my relationships with women, typically women want to communicate more than men do and they apologize for it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:24 AM
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Bad girls are gonna like bad boys. Like attracts like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:56 PM
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What kind of red flags are you taking about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:30 PM
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Great advice. >I'd also tell him not to believe that being a good person alone is enough. Kindness matters, but attraction matters too. Men and women who act like them being a good person should entitle them to someone liking them back in a romantic sense are not good people. Actual good people don’t think or act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:23 AM
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>them or other innocent bystanders, when women fixate on height, looks, aggressiveness, chemistry, etc… and ignore character, loyalty, kindness and empathy… This is such pathetic “ nice guy “ grievance bullshit “ >women will claim they hid their true nature Which is often the case, how do you think decent people sometimes end up with such horrible people ? I’m talking about male victims too. Men are just as likely to be vicitm of abuse. >Nah. Women just waste their “intuition” filtering out men …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:51 PM
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As a man I gotta say Women should never date a guy just because he seems nice. So many horror stories of women giving “ the nice guy “ a shot. And whenever a guy calls himself a “ nice guy” … red fucking flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:57 AM
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>Being tatted is just an indicator that he might have dark triad traits Dude it’s 2026, no one thinks that way about tattoos anymore lol. And that’s the reason why a lot of women use to turned off by guys with tats, not because they disliked the look but because of the perception, my mom almost rejected my dad because she had this idea it indicated he must be of poor charscter but once she could see he was a good dude she went for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:53 AM
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There’s a difference between a bad boy/girl and someone who’s really dark triad. When people use the terms bad boy/ girl they mean it playfully for people who are not bad or mean people but those who are more wild, hedonistic, rebellious, someone who gos against polite Christian norms. And the only women who specifically want men with dark traits are women with dark traits as well- like attracts like. The thing is people high in dark triad traits are much more than what makes them dark, often th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:51 AM
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whining about women being stole from “ bad boy criminals “ lol. I’ve seen the comments I think you are referring to and As a reformed ex con myself I find it so bizzare how obsessed these dorks are about the women who date ex cons, it’s weird to me because majority of women are not dating guys like that, most women don’t want guys like that and would these guys want the kind of women that ex cons typically date ? I don’t get the fixation. There’s more women dating ex cons than men dating ex cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:27 AM
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Why do you put horny in quotations for loll
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:51 AM
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The issue is the apps are overwhelmingly male which puts men at more of a disadvantage. It’s men who are relying on the apps, not women. Can’t blame women for being more picky. And the average guys are not morally superior to the Chads and Tyrone’s, most of these chads and Tyrone’s are decent dudes who aren’t trying to lead anyone on, most will eventually get into a relationship and offthe apps and as they go off other chads and Tyrone’s come on. My girlfriend showed me her tinder before she del…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:50 AM
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Examples? - since your taking about things that would have men make massive leaps forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:10 PM
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Define “being an asshole” The thing is a lot of guys who are passive and are pushovers they seem to wanna call being assertive and having backbone/ boundries being an asshole which is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:40 PM
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Well The type of men who are getting the most women are the ones who are first of all interested in getting the most women rather than be In a committed serious long term relationship. Besides looks and money it’s pretty easy to see what the ideal personality for a guy is for attracting women, confident but not arrogant, charisma is king, if you can make a woman laugh a lot that’s gos a long way. Most women want a masculine man, obviously when women say they want a nice guy they don’t mean a pus…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:15 PM
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Being confident and having back bone is very attractive, taking no consideration no consideration for others feelings? Very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:01 PM
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Red pill says act like a bad boy ? lol only dorks say that shit. Most red pillers would say be masculine, be non needy, don’t be a pushover, be confident, assertive, have back back bone, that doesn’t make you a bad boy. Most women don’t want bad boys, Only bad girls specifically want bad boys ( like attracts like). If you look at specific bad boy qualities none of them would make you more attractive to most women- just bad girls. Bad boys often have conventionally attractive qualities like confi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:59 PM
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Like you said if you are charming and don’t over do it. The more charming and attractive you are to them the more “ fleeting” you can be. A lot of men ( and women) are keen on not appearing needy that they go too far in the other direction and they may think that’s more effective than it actually is. There’s a difference between being flaky and not being constantly available. There’s a lot of men and women who could definitely benefit by being less available but they just shouldn’t go full retar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:52 PM
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Red pillers come together on men’s rights, self improvement, exaggerating hypergamy, promoting masculinity, basically the male version of toxic feminism where it’s a victim and zero sum game type of mindset. Where red pillers have lot disagreement is when it come to relationships and seduction. Regarding acting flakey I don’t think most red pillers would advocate acting flakey. When it comes to dating multiple people pretty much anyone knows only a minority of women are okay with open relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:32 PM
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Wanting to fix someone is actually more of a masculine impulse. Both me and my girlfriend are formed ex cons and recovering addicts and one thing we noticed is that men are far more willing to date ex cons and drug addicts than women are. Obvously there’s more women dating ex cons and drug addicts but that’s because there’s more male druggies and way more male ex cons. I’ve been rejected by women because of it and she said no guy has had an issue with her being in prison and her history of cocai…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:21 AM
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What makes these exes douches ? Because they are exes ? Because that’s what they said about them? One thing about people is may have a habit of talking shit about their exes and exggerating how bad they were, that they were the problem not them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:14 AM
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Saying someone is hookup material could be an insult - (your good looking but you lack in other areas for anything more ) but saying someone isn’t hookup material is def an insult ( you ain’t hot enough ) When a woman says a guy is relationship material or husband material the far majority of the time it’s not an insult, they mean the guy is the full package and it’s highlight how attractive his personality is, his success - it could could be a guy they don’t find physically attractive but not n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:09 AM
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It’s stupid to call that “ beta bucks” these chicks are just dumb to think ugly guys would treat women any better
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:56 AM
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I’ve never understand that. In long term relationships and when I really like a woman, I want to be kinkier and more rough with her- consensually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:45 AM
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Always hated the whole alpha fucks beta bucks thing because being physically doesn’t make you an alpha and your only a beta if you act like a beta. A lot of the dudes women are hooking up with and cheating on their hug ands with are handsome but scrawny beta dudes lol. And we should differentiate between exciting and physically attractive, Obvously someone who is physically attractive is exciting in terms of looks but there’s a lot of really good looking people who have really boring fucking per…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:44 AM
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Dude you get over this shit. You are so in your head about the height thing and you just assume the guy is tall when plenty of women bend over backyards for boyfriends who are not nearly as tall as that. Obvously height matters but not nearly to the degree that you seem to think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:36 AM
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Obviously a woman knows really quickly if she finds a guy physically attractive but women’s sexual desire/ drive is different than men’s, it’s more responsive meaning it increases or decreases more depending on the interpersonal. When a man is on a date his date can be boring as fuck, annoying, or seems like a lunatic and it’s unlikely it would prevent him from fucking her that night and that’s not the case with the genders reversed. There’s a lot of stories that come out from women taking about…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:33 AM
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I prefer real chadfishing over fake ones where the women texting are them posing as women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:17 AM
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We don’t need any experiments to know that there’s plenty of women who are immoral who would happily go for a hot guy like that. Also those experiments can be fake- meaning the results are faked for Ragebait. You can fake the messages yourself, you can make it look like way more people swiped right than they would have if it was real. I saw one where it’s so obvious looking at the messages that these were not real messages from real women lol- again Obvously there are women who would have no iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:12 AM
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I mean plenty of chicks have experience with “ nice guys” - guys who acted like they should be entitled to a woman being with him because he was nice and then they spaz tf out when they don’t get what they want. Obvously a genuine nice person would not think or act like this. “ nice girls “are a thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:13 AM
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It’s really unfortunate when guys make an improvement and become more confident, assertive, Develop back bone and they wanna call their new selves an asshole - because that’s how they always saw more confident masculine guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:01 AM
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There’s a difference between being kind and being a pushover/ desperate people pleaser…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:50 AM
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When a man or woman says they want someone who is kind or funny obviously they don’t mean they would date anyone who is kind or funny, people shouldn’t have to say someone kind or funny that they find physically attractive enough, that should be assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:47 AM
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That’s directed towards men who are too disagreeable, Obvously I’m sure there’s men she would say are too agreeable. The ideal is moderate agreeableness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:44 AM
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Dude don’t be a retard, the only women who are specifically attracted to actual dark traits are a small minority of women who are really dark themselves - like attracts like. The research is overwhelmingly clear that the most attractive type of man personality wise is a guy who is kind but masculine/ strong/ confident/ assertive. In my book a good man is a strong man. A weak man cannot be considered a good man. The dark triad construct is flawed, it’s kind of pop psychology bullshit. The issue i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:29 AM
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Well Having a good heart is an attractive quality to most people. Obviously if a man or woman says they want someone with a good heart that doesn’t mean they would want anyone with a good heart. The whole rant you went on about women is weird bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:45 AM
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>Men also tend to be very literal, so when women say "I want a man who..." that tends to be taken at face value. What’s retarded is thinking that if a woman was she wants a kind man that means she would want to date any guy who is kind. Obvously if men and women say they want certain personality traits they don’t mean anyone who has these things, it should be assumed that a person has to meet a threshold of physically attractiveness to them, they shouldn’t have to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:44 AM
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>Like kindness, caring etc. They don’t say the reality like, I like sharp jawline, big muscles, wide shoulders, plays hot and cold, big dick etc. You guys give generic answers. When men or women say they want someone who is kind or caring that doesn’t mean tney would date anyone who is kind or Caring, they shouldn’t have to say that person has meet the threshold of attractiveness for them etc. No man would want a woman just because she’s kind, you know that as a man so why would you think a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:35 AM
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Dude in film and tv involving romance it’s about entertainment first and foremost, and tv and fim has always shown all types of guys succeeding, that was the case decades ago and is was the case now. >Today’s kids are lucky, now there is no nice guy who tries to win her over in shows and films. lol where the fuck do you get this? And do most women want chads ? Of course of no shit women prefer conventionally attractive women Do most women prefer bad boys ? No. The only women who specially prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:31 AM
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What most women want are masculine men, guys who are confident, assertive, strong. That doesn’t make a guy a jerk. When women say they want a nice guy Obvously that doesn’t they don’t mean a pushover or a people pleaser, they mean a genuine nice guy with a back bone. both male jerks and female jerks typically have a high number of sexual partners but that doesn’t mean that most men or women like jerks, it’s just jerks typically pursue casual sex more and thus they get get it more. Jerks are more…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:19 AM
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What most women want are masculine men, guys who are confident, assertive, have boundaries, that doesn’t make a guy an asshole. And when women say they want a nice guy Obvously that doesn’t mean a pushover or a desperate people pleaser, they mean a genuine nice guy with a back bone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:14 AM
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What people are saying is that being a good person makes you more appealing to most people than you otherwise would be. No man or woman would want to date someone just because they are a good person but most men and women do want someone who is a good person of course. Who the fuck is saying that being a good person in someone eyes is going to gurantee that they want to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:09 AM
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>she’d get bored with a man that would give her stability instead of chaos. That’s not just an abuse victim that’s a chaotic unstable women, chaotic unstable women are going to be attracted to chaotic unstable men- like attracts like. Someone can stop being attracted to chaotic unstable people if they become less chaotic and unstable themselves. It’s what I did. The kind of women I dated before I went to prison are so different than the women I have dated since, I have no interest in dating the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:39 AM
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Men are just as likely to be victims of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:36 AM
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An abusive person is much more than their worst qualities, they can have many conventionally attractive and good qualities, hardly anyone would find someone more attractive for them being an abuser but there are a lot of men and women who are more prone to tolerating abuse because of a lack of self esteem etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:34 AM
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>but 100% of women who got abused rejected multiple men who wouldn't have abused her. How tf are they suppose to know if a guy isn’t going to be abusive? lol. people who end up being abusers can seem like the most wonderful people. Abusive relationships typically don’t start off abusive, it’s something that gradually escalates over time. >And usually she rejected those guys because they were too nice. Being” too nice” is not a good thing. Notice how being nice isn’t the issue, Most women want a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:32 AM
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There is a positive correlation between male attractiveness and number of sex partners, Obvously the better looking you are the easier it is but the correlation is really not that strong. One of the most annoying things is people acting like any dude who has a high body count must be a Chad, they are putting pussy on a pedestal, most women are not these prizes to be won and also this incel narrative that these 10 chads are fucking4s and then making them only want Chad, that’s total bullshit. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:27 AM
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The typical guy who is non committal is an average guy dating other average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:38 AM
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The only reason some men can treat women like pokemon trading cards is because most women throw themselves at those men. The hypergamy exists, 80% of women go after the same top 20% of men, atleast when they are young, so ofc those men who have abundance are gonna be very picky which comes of as taking advantage You gotta get over this 80 20 talking point bro. And also there’s not a really strong correlation between being a high value man and not being willing to commit/ cheat like some people s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:37 AM
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What you’re saying is not a gendered thing. As a guy I wish men would reject and cancel dates with women who show red flags as much as women do with men. There was this tik tok that went viral where she met this hot guy at the beach, they set up a date for later that night, she had told him she doesn’t drink and he kept texting implying she was gonna drink and so she canceled it. Imagine if the genders were reversed, very few guys would have canceled over that. Obvously there’s a logical differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:31 AM
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There’s actually not that strong correlation between being a high value man not being willing to commit etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:24 AM
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lol What percent of women think they are gods because of simps ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 11:23 AM
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I hear a lot of about these women who decide to change it up and make guys wait they like wait so long but those women are a small minority, most women don’t make guys wait more than a few dates and so guys don’t have to deal with women like this if they don’t want to. For most women it’s the opposite in that they more they like a guy as a person in addition to his looks the more eagar and sooner she wants to fuck him. Men and women are different in that how well a dates go’s and how well the vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:39 AM
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Same thing when guys say "Women will even date guys they know are cheaters and felons!", you see that alot because you like those women. As a reformed ex con myself noticed a lot of guys in online discourse about dating are weirdly obsessed with going on about women who date felons and or criminals, most women are not dating guys like that so it’s just bizzare to me how often I see guys comment about that and characterize women in such a way. A felon is so much more than his felony And a felon c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:32 AM
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I notice women with kind fathers who impart their values onto them do not choose domineering assholes for sexual partners. Even though they may be attracted to those types of men. The overwhelming majority of those women wouldn’t even be attracted to those type of men Lol- personality wise, Obvously we can find men and women who are horrible people physically attractive. There’s positive forms of dominance that most women would find attractive and there’s negative forms of dominance that most wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:34 PM
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There’s actually not that strong correlation between a man’s attractiveness and his willingness to commit/ cheat. I
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:41 PM
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because being toxic is not necessarily unattractive, being boring is unattractive. What do you mean by toxic then? What kind of toxic is not necessarily unattractive to most people? People are a collection of things, they can have a toxic quality and that on its own is unattractive to most people and then they can have attractive qualities- good looks, wit, they love animals etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:34 PM
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What do you mean they should give them exactly what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:19 PM
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Being a desperate people pleaser/ passive/ a pushover doesn’t help but Being respectful and a good man helps. And no man would want a woman just because she’s nice or respectful and it’s the same for women when it comes to men. Of course there has to be enough of an attraction and chemistry etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:51 AM
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A guy being confident and pursuing casual sex doesn’t make him arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:46 AM
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Anyone who wants to deny that most men and women don’t want to be disrespected is a fucking clown. Yeah there’s plenty of examples of men who date women who are disrespectful to them and plenty of examples of women who date men who are disrespectful to them but it would be fucking retarded to say men or women don’t mind being disrespected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:45 AM
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Obvously when a man or woman is taking about how they want someone funny, kind or supportive it doesn’t mean anyone like that, they shouldn’t have to Clarify they person has to meet a threshold of attractiveness for them etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:43 AM
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Are you objecting to the fact that most women don’t want to be disrespected ? What most women want are masculine men, assertive confident men with back bones- that doesn’t make a guy an asshole. And women and men playfully teasing each other is not being an asshole- I’ve noticed a lot of people are weird about this. I remember my cousin saying I was being a douche around these girls and when I asked them about it they were like “ WTF no you totally cool we were having good banter!”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:41 AM
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Respect doesn't turn women on, and can come off as weak, unconfident, unassertive and unattractive. Well There’s a big difference between being respectful and being a desperate people people pleaser or a pushover.. If women liked being respected, men would give them the upmost respect. Are you seriously generalizing women as not liking being respected ? Men are just as guilty of dating women who are disrespectful to them? How would you feel about women characterizing men this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:37 AM
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lol that’s actually good Ragebait. And what’s up with transgenders and ragebait haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:27 AM
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If it didn’t bother men so much they woud not do it. If big dicks were a shameful thing to have more women would use that as an insult- only a minority of women can handle big dick well anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:26 AM
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As a guy I always tell other guys that they shoudnt look at women as having more options because our actual options as either men or women are the people we would actually consider. Guys acting like women just have it so much better and they should be so grateful because they get more attention, matches from the opposite sex is just thick headed, you are not putting yourself in their shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:22 AM
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What percent of people do you think would find someone boring because they are not toxic ? What’s “ toxic”? No one would want to be with someone they find boring but only a really toxic person would find someone boring specifically because they are not Toxic. We all want to be with people we find fun and interesting but what’s fun, interesting, boring differs to different sorts of people- of course people change that - the kind of women I went for before I went to prison are very different than …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:08 AM
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Same reason men get with fuckgirls. Because they found them attractive duh, What makes a guy a fuckboy is they lead women on, they lie and manipulate to get them into bed, theres nothing wrong with a guy only wanting casual sex but just be honest about it- they don’t because that would shrink their pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:06 AM
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The Women who do that are sociopaths. So different than the average woman. Look at how in so many fight videos online you see the girlfriends yelling desperately trying to prevent her boyfriend from fighting someone. That’s the last thing most women want to see happen, most women want a guy who can fight, is able to stand up for them and protect them but they only want a guy to get violent if it’s absolutely necessary, the want a guy who can look to deescalate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:39 AM
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No and that’s the issue with the big 5, agreeableness and kindness should be considered two totally different factors. A woman is who is overly agreeable is not really attractive to most men and they are more likely to be boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:28 AM
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lol what do you even mean bro
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:51 AM
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Depends on what you mean by trouble, sometimes use that word liberally. If we mean trouble in a really serious way then most women are not fucking guys they feel are seriously trouble. Men are far more willing to have sex with someone they know is dangerous or crazy and that’s because men are less risk adverse, have higher sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:51 AM
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Most women don’t make guys wait, a guy doesn’t have to deal with a woamn like this if he doesn’t want to. Some women are weird like this where they want to make guys they like more wait but for most women it’s the opposite, for most women the more they like him besides their looks that’s just going to make them want to fuck them more and sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:17 AM
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The far majority of women don’t make the men she likes wait more. ( more than 3 dates ) For most women they more they like a guy the faster they want to fuck him, because women’s sex drives are different than men’s, they are more responsive, a guys personality and how well you vibe on a date pays a much bigger role for women than for men. A woman could be so off putting and it’s really not going to make a difference in how much a man wants to bang her. So yeah guys don’t have to deal with women …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:15 AM
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People complain about women being too picky but a lot of women are actually really forgiving and understanding of men who have flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 01:08 AM
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there’s a reason people like it, it encases all the sensations, it can really intensify orgasms. So many guys would be addicted to it if they had a woman choke them while they came, the most mind blowing orgasms, you will never bust harder. A lot of (men ) have died over the years by hanging themsleves while masterbating because that feeling is so incredible 99% of deaths are men) if you are going to ever do Breath play then never do it alone. Back when they were executing people by hanging peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:59 AM
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It’s called impact play and it’s a spectrum, only a minority of women into impact play would want to borderline get their assess whooped. That’s the difference between male submissives and female submissive, male submissive are usually hardcore, more likely to want to be hit harder etc. not saying there’s not plenty of women who are hardcore but in general male submissives want to be fucked up more lol. Something I’ve noticed is that there’s a difference in they way men and women they use the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:53 AM
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First off this is not a gendered thing, A lot of Men loved to be slapped by women in face, (guys pay female bartenders to do it lol) And Obvously there’s a big difference between abuse and consexual impact play. Slapping someone in the face when they want it is in fact being nice to them lol. Let’s say a guy likes being slapped in the face while having sex and he’s having an argument in the kitchen with his wife and in the heat of anger his wife slaps him.. he’s going to feel really different ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:49 AM
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lol that’s bullshit. The main issue with dating apps is they are overwhelmingly male which puts men at more of a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:29 AM
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Given how many women have butterflies in stomach for attractive killers, and how many mistake chaos, uncertainty and danger as "chemistry" and "vibe", The amount of women who have Hybristophilla are a small fringe minority bro.. so weird to even being that up and act like that’s even a considerable percentage of the female population. say hookups would be rarer if safety was a guarantee. It would be boring to them then One of the dumbest fucking things I’ve read on here lmao. Women are less risk…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:18 AM
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Are the guys who are struggling morally superior ? No. And why the hyper focus on these women who are really picky ? Look at who most women are dating, most women ain’t asking for much lol. And you know instantly if you find someone attractive enough, you know quickly if you feel a connection with them, knowing how toxic they are and how well you fit.. that takes more time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:03 AM
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people who clutch their pearls at men liking characters like Patrick Bateman or women liking characters like any dunne are lame as fuck lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/26 10:46 PM
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When it comes to romance novels first and foremost women read for the sake of entertainment rather than what’s realistic or what they would look for or want in a relationship themselves. Women are just more interested and entertained by sort of romantic fiction than men are, whether it’s supernatural beings or two gay male hockey players. A lot of vanilla women have read novels like 50 shades of grey. You can’t go by what women read really. I dated this chick who had those novels on her shelf an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:52 PM
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You know instantly if you find someone physically attractive, you know pretty soon if you feel a chemistry with them, finding out how good of a person they are and how well you fit, that takes more time. My advice to awkward people who is tyo of course try to work on their awkwardness but also with the time being one it, acknowledge that your awkward , admit you are nervous, there’s something confident and charming that can take away from the negative effects of the awkwardness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:40 PM
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No they are not right at all. No man would want a woman just because she’ a good honest person and it’s the same for women when it comes to men, of of course there has to be enough of an attraction and felt connection etc. And it’s cuz chads are hogging all the women huh ? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:37 PM
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Serial killers do not get better results because they have sicko women sending them love letters as they rot in prison lol. And no decent guy would want a woman who would ever want to be romantically involved with someone like that anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:34 PM
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It’s so bizzare to me how people love people love to randomly bring up the women who write love letters to serial killers, that’s such a small fringe minority of sicko women. These killers get famous in the media and so of course out of hundreds of millions of people there’s gonna be some sickos sending them love letters. Considering how known they are the amount of love they get is insignificant. There’s always going to be people like that but People blow it out of proportion. 99% of women woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:30 PM
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I get what you mean but I feel like you worded this wrong. There’s nothing wrong with finding a such a horrible person physically attractive i would say it is wrong to thirst after them, “ thirst “ implies alot more than just acknowledging that person is good looking lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:16 PM
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I mean you see a lot of comments from men ( but also women too ) who act like because they were nice to someone then that should entitle them to a relationship. These self proclaimed nice guys/ girls are so fucking annoying, genuine nice people don’t act like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:10 PM
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Obvously the far majority of women prefer masculine men but there’s no shortage of women who would go for a more feminine confident dandy/ androgynous type of guy. We have a a neighbor who was always hooking up with guys like this but she ended up marrying a really masculine jacked dude. Her hookups were the beta pretty boys and she married the alpha lol. Not saying a more feminine guy is necessarily a beta, there guys who have a Feminine flare to them that are really assertive and have strong b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:07 PM
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Dating market is a reflection of women’s changed behavior and men reacting to it Social media and dating apps have changed dating more than any other generation. Dating apps are overwhelmingly male users , it’s men who are relying on them, not women. And the far majority of women are not instagram obsessed to where they have a public profile with a large following or anything like that. Dinner and movie dates are declining Because women are considerably less interesting dinner and movie dates ! …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:57 PM
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Women’s tiers are super weird because of how attractive women behave Very attractive women sort of seem to pick between either of 2 options: they are either forced to fight over each other for male models that have their pick to casually sleep with them, or they lord their attractiveness over a number of more average guys There’s not nearly as strong of a correlation between attractive Guys and not being willing to commit as you seem to think there is. People really exggerate this when it comes …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:17 AM
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Regarding a woman’s willingness to fuck on the first date Obvously the more physically attractive the guy the more willing she is to fuck on the first date but the biggest factor really comes down to an individual woman’s own personality. Women’s sex drives are different, it’s not as spontaneous, they are a bit more able to refrain from acting on it. And of course how well the date gos is more of a factor for women than it is for men, a woman can be so off putting and guys are not going to be an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:12 AM
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And Men are more opened minded. There’s more women dating ex cons than men dating ex cons but that’s because there’s far more male ex cons. There’s way more men would have no issue dating an ex con than women. Both me and my girlfriend are ex cons, I’ve been rejected a lot for it and she says no guy ever had an issue with her having been in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:50 AM
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Preselection and social proof is def a thing but I’ve noticed a lot of guys exaggerate it and misinterpret it. Most women can judge for themselves, they are not going to want you just because other women do- and they are going to judge those women. Women lke conventionally attractive men because they are conventionally attractive, not because other women do. Where a lot of red pillers have been goofs on is some thinking that most women would find a guy more attractive for having a really high bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:43 AM
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You know some dudes would just belive her calling the guy a loser and think well she couldn’t let him becuse he was hot but honestly he probaly wasn’t a loser, he just didn’t like her as much she liked him and that’s why she’s calling him a loser and saying other guys were better guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:36 AM
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A beta is not a good reliable partner for a woman to settle with. The more a man lacks in strength/ toughness/ back bone the less he is able to be kind and do good, the less he is able to protect and provide, the less he is able to help people, the less is able to do the right thing ( which can be hard) There’s a difference between a nice guy and a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:49 AM
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Alpha fucks/ beta bucks is stupid, a guy being physically attractive doesn’t make him an alpha and a guy being a stable provider doesn’t make him a beta. You’re only a beta if you act like one. A lot of the guys women hook up with are scrawny pretty boys who are not alpha lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:44 AM
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the thing is you can’t go by someone’s style anymore like you used to decades ago, peope of all personalities and walks of life present themselves in all sorts of styles, no one looks at someone with a bunch of tattoos anymore and thinks that a bad girl/ boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:34 AM
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What percent of red pill dudes would say women love assoles ? A big thing with red pill is defending masculinity and saying being a masculine dude doesn’t make you an asshole, it makes you a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:12 AM
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There’s a higher number of men who would find a woman more attractive for displaying specifically bad girl behavior than there are women who would find guys displaying specific bad boy more attractive. Confidence and having back bone are not specific bad boy behaviors. Not saying that men like women who happen to be bad girls more than woman like men who happen to be bad boys, not saying men date bad girls more than women date bad boys - because there’s a difference between that and specifically…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:33 PM
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The advice that works for red pill is the basic stuff that that’s not exclusive To the red pill, it’s the other shit that a lot of red pillers don’t even all agree on that’s less productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:16 PM
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The problem is, women can’t tolerate a man who keeps her safe without defending their dignity. What do you mean? In the show, they weren’t harmed due in significant part to Louie’s minimal response. The woman character is very different than most women, the point is she was toxic as fuck. Most women try to prevent their boyfriends from getting confrontational and risk getting violent or into any trouble. In so many fight videos you see the girlfiend’s desperately trying to stop it, You hear girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:59 PM
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Just because you dated someone it doesn’t mean you found everything about them attractive and exes are exes for a reason. And you’re acting like you can believe every woman who said their ex was a narcissist. Obviously that’s a word that gets thrown around a lot and lot of guys get called that unfairly What’s attractive to women is confidence, the only women who would specifically find pathological narcissism attractive in anyway are women who are more in that themselves- like attracts like. Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:49 PM
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They like him for the drugs, what’s funny is a lot of women who do drugs don’t find dealers cool, I had a buddy who was a dealer told me about this, he was complaining about these chicks who love drugs they get from him but at the same time they get the ick I guess you could say that he’s a dealer lmao a lot of guys need to understand to alot of women who do drugs wouldn’t want to ever date a dealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:45 PM
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You can google it and find some studies on it, there’s always going to be a positive correlation but the point is it’s not as big as some guys make it out to be. It’s simple logic that the biggest factor is how much how a guy is pursuing casual sex, the guys who gos to the bars constantly ( and don’t just rely on dating apps) and where there are loose women looking to hook up are going to have a higher number of sexual partners than better looking guys who are just not pursuing casual sex nearly…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:42 PM
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It can be for a guy they find unattractive but The far majority of women would say husband material in reference to a guy that is the full package in terms of looks, good personality, , stability,
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:12 AM
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You project too much bitterness into this A woman will call a she finds physically unattractive husband material but Most women are not going to call a guy husband material if she finds him boring, it’s usually going to be a like she acfually finds fun to be around, personality matters a lot more for a serious relationship than for a hook up- which is all about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:09 AM
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Important to point out that the guys with crazy numbers aren’t necessarily very attractive, there is a positive correlation but it’s really not that strong, the biggest factor is how much a guy is pursuing casual sex and putting himself in more and better positions to get laid/ not being so picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:57 AM
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There’s women who Iike to chase but to claim that women like to chase more than men is just silly. Also there’s a difference in chasing someone because you like them enough to do so and acfually enjoying the thrill of the chase itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:52 AM
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So women are propping up the idea that men like to chase becuse they loved being chased ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:50 AM
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There’s not a strong correlation between physical attractiveness and cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:45 AM
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I got dumped for beating up a guy who kept flirting with her while at this bar. Most women want a guy with back bone and a guy that can stand up for them/ protect them but the overwhelming majority of women only want a guy to risk engaging in violence if it’s absolutely necessary, they want a guy who looks to deescalate things. A lot of guys get themsleves in trouble when it comes to This, they don’t realize how disappointed their girlfiend’s would be, they think if I’m standing up for her that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:33 AM
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I got dumped for beating up a guy who kept flirting with her at this bar. Most women want a guy with back bone and a guy that can stand up for them/ protect them but the overwhelming majority of women would only want to risk engaging in violence if it’s absolutely necessary, they want a guy who looks to deescalate things. A lot of guys get themsleves in trouble when it comes to This, they don’t realize how disappointed their girlfiend’s would be, they think if I’m standing up for her that should…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:32 AM
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Are you saying you can’t have amazing sex without the relationship having a toxic dynamic ? lol. If that’s the case you need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:21 AM
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You want to be safe in the sense that you want to make women feel safe in your masculine presence but that’s different than being the “safe option” the safe option is someone just being some decent option for someone to fall back on, not the man or woman the they truely desire
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:20 AM
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What the fuck ? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:17 AM
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Bro what the fuck are you talking about, if you have a big dick you are less able to fuck rough or jackhammer with most women where they would enjoy it and it not hurt them. Most chicks can’t take a big dick well. It’s the Guys with average dicks who are able to do more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:45 AM
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It takes two to tango bro. Men choose too. You consistently have the worst takes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:31 AM
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Why you bringing that dork up for ? And look at how most women view him, Most women see him as lame. His fanboys think he’s more attractive than most women do. Clav gets rejected a lot to be good looking, and now rich and famous. I actually feel sorry for him because despite all that he he’s not happy, he’s admitted it himself. He’s always struggled with being unhappy, he’s had to take a bunch of different things to not be anxious and to be social. He gets rejected by any good quality woman and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:44 PM
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And look at how most women see those guys bro. Both the men and women in those spaces are not a good example of either gender. First of all Andrew and clav are rather different, ,clav is a lot less sexist than Andrew and if Andrew was hit by a woman then he likely wouldn’t have had just called security like clav did. A lot of guys in clavs position would have hit her back. But yeah Clav gets rejected a lot to be so good looking, rich and famous. I actually feel sorry for him becaus despite all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:24 PM
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This is a good point. It’s like these dudes put men into all these categories, there’s good men and bad men but yet they put all women into one box instead of saying like attracts like, good women are more likely to choose good man, bad women are more likely to choose bad men. And if a man is so lacking in back bone could he really be considered a good man? In my book a weak cowardly man cannot be considered a good man. Personal Strength is what enables kindness and goodness to happen. The less …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:19 PM
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Why do these guys focus on the selected men who have more bad traits ? Most selected men are really good dudes. An unselected guy choosing to replicate bad traits shows not only a lack of social intelligence but also a lack of decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:13 PM
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Treating you well but other people poorly. Yeah Only a more narcissistic woman would be okay with this. I men jeez most chicks get turned off is a guy is rude to the waiter- one of the common talked about turns offs on a first date. Excess confidence and lack of any embarrassment or awkwardness. This is common with sociopaths and guys with subclinical sociopathic tendencies. Excess confidence or arrogant ? Because a guy can be extremely confident but not arrogant. And the far majority of people …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 06:05 PM
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Why are you even bringing this up for ? These are such outliers. The far majority of people wouldn’t even consider trying to date some stranger in prison. Both me and my girlfiend are reformed ex cons, neither of us were interested in having a pen having a pen pal ( not to be mean but typically the women who would be interested in that are really unattractive) but my girlfiend had a bunkie who had a bunch of prison boyfriends that she would lie to and use, she even got one divorced. Imagine find…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:36 PM
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Narcissism is a spectrum we are all on, we all have to have self interest. Normal moderate levels of it are perfectly healthy, productive and attractive it’s only when it reaches pathological levels as to where it’s not. Now when it comes to people who do have pathological narcissism, that specifically is very unattractive to anyone who isn’t a pathological narcissist themselves but a pathological narcissist is much more than their worst qualities, they can have may good conventionally attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 08:23 AM
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lol men are not any less guilty of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 08:15 AM
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You are basically trying to tell men not to say the obvious truth out loud. Women do have more options in general because far more men are willing to date or sleep with them than the other way around. Saying “those men do not count because she is not attracted to them” does not erase the fact that the options exist. I fully acknowledge the obvious in that men would gleefully fuck a higher percentage of women than the other way around but we just disagree whether a guy being interested in a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:04 AM
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Just like the men some are more good and some are more bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:49 AM
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The difference is that it is far worse from the woman’s end because she generally has far more options than the average man does. It’s not worse from the woman’s end. And as a man I have to tell my fellow men to stop saying women have more options because they actually don’t- options for a person are only the people they would be interested in enough to date. You can’t expect women to fuck and date men that don’t meet that threshold of attraction/ interest. Men would fuck a higher percentage of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:22 AM
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I remember my cousin telling me I was being a douche around these girls because I was playfully teasing them, I asked them about it and they were like WTF no you were totally cool, we were having good banter ( they were teasing me too) some guys just have such a lack of social intelligence and I feel bad for them and there’s a lot of jealous at play here when they want to demonize other men for being more successful with women. And the thing is I’ve noticed is there’s these guys that go from tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:52 PM
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Bad women are gonna like bad men, like attracts like. What chaps my ass is you’ll see guys that have such a crush on a bad woman and they’ll complain about them going for bad men when they are doing the same thing they are criticizing her for lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:44 PM
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What you’re taking about is not what any of the women seem to be take issue with. It’s the proper definition of hyperactive is what women on here seem to take issue with. A man being active and having vigor is attractive to most women but being hyperactive ? Not so much. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperactivity
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:49 AM
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But what’s weird is how that guy frames it as women as a whole of preferring immature men rather than saying immature women prefer immature men. We all want fun and our idea of fun differs depending on the type of individuals we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:46 AM
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Immature women assume immature men are more fun ( like attracts like) women as a whole don’t. Everyone wants someone they find fun and what people find fun differs to different sorts of men and women. Different folks different strokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:41 AM
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I don’t call myself blue pill or red pilled. What is even Blue pill ? It’s a straw man, no one actually believes that things like looks don’t matter at all. And the best things about the red pill are things that are not exclusive to it, telling men to improve themselves, hit the gym etc. the issue with the red pill is when it comes the male version of toxic feminism. And don’t think anything I said is what any substantial number of red pillers would disagree with. I think most red pillers would …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:36 AM
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I edited my comment to add on to it but I guess you didn’t see it before you commented but yeah it’s gotten a lot better, I’m been in relationships with women that never would have knowingly dated the selfish criminal people of shit I once was. I’m now a lot more attractive to a much higher percentage of women, back then the only women who would have dated me are really toxic problematic women to put it mildly because I was open about who I was, those were the women who would have me and it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:13 AM
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Obvously the more attractive you are to someone the more they will tolerate and put in effort but it also comes down to that persons own personality, their self esteem, their patience, their back bone. There are women and men who are more and less prone to putting up with bullshit. And being understanding of women is actually very seductive- no woman is going to want to fuck a guy just for this, of course there has to be enough of a mutual attraction to begin with but my point is that that can r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:50 AM
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The main factor when it comes to guys who have a high number of sex partners is they simply pursued it more than most men did. Obviously looks matter etc but the main thing is guys going out and shooting their shot, not relying on dating apps and going to where there’s loose women to meet. Most men and women who sleep around aren’t super problematic people but they are more likely to be because heavy promiscuity is symptom of cluster b personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:46 AM
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To be fair the main pick up artists gurus who popularized negging made it clear if you are coming across as an asshole and making women feel insulted then you are doing it wrong. It’s about having good banter and chemistry with a woman. The negging that gets condemned isn’t even what negging is supposed to be, it’s not the negging that even works. Can you still fuck a woman who you made feel insulted ? Maybe if she just found you attractive enough and was horny enough but that negging didn’t fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:41 AM
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That’s because men are less social than ever before. The advancement of technology and the internet has incentizied a lot of men ( and women) to rot behind screens, so many men get all their entertainment from a screen, all their socialization from a screen, all their sexual release from a screen. It’s no wonder guys are more lonely, less fit and less happy than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:38 AM
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It’s almost like just like there are male assholes there are female assholes, like attracts like. This man and woman would be a turn off to most men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:40 AM
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The Video got removed but why sk dorks you wanna say this shit ? Are there women who like legit assholes ? Sure and there are women who are legit assoles themselves but most women do not want assholes. What most women want are masculine men, men who are confident and have a back bone, that doesn’t make a guy an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:39 AM
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Why do you say that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:16 PM
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As a ex con myself I’m curious what percent of women do you think would date a guy fresh out of prison for abuse? Whatever the number it’s def a higher percentage of men who would date a woman fresh out of prison for abuse, because men are less risk adverse and less picky. There’s a lot more women dating ex cons but that’s simply because there’s way more male ex cons than female ex cons. My girlfiend said no guy ever had an issue with her criminal history really but I got rejected a lot by women…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:23 AM
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Women love chasing men they know other women want Women like conventionally attractive men because the are conventionally attractive, not just because other women want them- social proof and preselection is a thing but I’ve noticed a lot of people really exaggerate that and take it the wrong way. Women don’t cheat or go after taken people more than men do. It’s wrong to generalize either men or women as getting off to the idea of making someone cheat on their partner, I’ve seen women generalize …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:17 AM
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What percent of men and women are like this do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:11 AM
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Some women are being toxic though and I wouldn’t generalize men or women as a whole as incentivizing toxicity in the opposite sex. There’s too much blaming on men and women on the behavior of the opposite sex. To say if men stopped dating toxic women there wouldn’t be any more toxic women or if women stopped dating toxic women there wouldn’t be anymore toxic women is just the dumbest thing to me. There’s always going to be Toxic people, toxic men and toxic women are always going to have each oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:07 AM
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I think this is one area where women aren’t as lame as men are. Don’t get me wrong I’ve definitely come across “nice girls “ complaining about men liking hoes, bad girls and crazy bitches more than nice classy girls like them but it’s not as common lol but yea both these “ nice girls” and “ nice guys” are so annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:11 AM
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That is a good point, men are just as guilty when it comes to liking the bad girls but there’s not as many “ nice girls “ whining about that, there are some and I’ve definitely seen them but it’s much less of a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:10 AM
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What most women want are masculine men, confident, assertive, have back bone, that doesn’t make a guy an asshole. When women say they want a nice guy Obvously the don’t mean a pushover or a people pleaser, they mean a genuine nice guy with self respect and back bone. AndOf course that doesn’t men they would date any nice guy, no man would want to date a woman kid because she’s nice and it’s the same with women when it comes to men, of course there has to be enough of a mutual attraction and chem…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:06 AM
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In fact of have myself as an example of not being a player but having some traits of asshole So you’re just a normal imperfect human being, atleast you can acknowledge you have asshole movements which everyone does, who is nice all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:02 AM
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Some men get bricked up by women being bad crazy bitches. Men are no less guilty for going for fucked up women than women are of going for fucked up men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:31 AM
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Assholes who go after what they want are going to get more in life than doormats or guys who are too timid to make a move, no shit. A combination of Confidence, kindness, back bone is how you maximize success in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:18 AM
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The majority of women want masculine men, confident men who have back bones, that doesn’t make a guy an asshole. Are there women who specifically like legit assholes ? Sure but that’s not the majority. Hardly anyone is nice all the time, we all have our moments but legit asshole behavior is not something most would want. And something I’ve surely noticed is guys wrongfully get called assholes for having back bone or for playfully teasing a woman. I remember my cousin saying I was acting like an …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:12 AM
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Female assholes also have more sex partners. Problematic people are typically going to have more sex partners and that makes total sense and it has nothing to do with attraction. promiscuity and reckless sexual behavior is a symptom of cluster b personality disorders. These people pursue casual sex more and thus on average have they a higher number of parners compared to the general population. They cheat more, they are less able to hold onto a relationship, more short term relationships, the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:06 AM
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Do you think these self proclaimed nice guys are as good of people as they claim to be? Also I’ve come across some “ nice girls “ lately, they basically say the same shit, both are so fucking annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:02 AM
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Attraction can blind people and that gos for both men and women, It’s just something people have to be mindful of.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:01 AM
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A “ player “ is someone who manipulates and lies, and than can be a woman god knows there are female players too , they mask themselves to appear as charming to they will mirror people to gain trust and build attraction. This is how they get non toxic people to be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:59 AM
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And there’s men who repeatedly choose toxic women. I think it’s lame to blame women’s toxic behavior on men or mens toxic men’s toxic behavior on women, lets just blame individuals for their own behavior. There’s always going to be toxic ass people and people who will date them, toxic it’s other toxic people and then you have men and women who get played played because a lot of toxic people are fucking manipulators.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:56 AM
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What most women are attracted to are masculine men, men who are confident, have back bone, that doesn’t make a guy an asshole. Are there women who like legit assholes ? Sure but that’s not most women, just like there’s men who like mean bitches. Most chicks get turned off by guys being rude to the sister for fuck sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:52 AM
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First off men do it too sl STFU with that bs lol. When it comes to being vulnerable or crying in front of your girlfriend there’s a lot of factors at play, how is being vulnerable? What is he being vulnerable about ? How often is being vulnerable ? How serious is the relationship? What kind of woman is he involved with? What is this woman’s perception of this man? All these factors matter immensely when it comes to how a woman will react. I cried in my girlfiends lap and not only did it not turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:14 AM
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What’s often characterized blue pill advice is a strawman and the actual effective good advice red pill offers are things not exclusive to the red pill, it’s just basic common sense stuff. Hardly anyone is saying that looks don’t matter, money doesn’t matter at all or that just being yourself and being a good person will get you whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:01 PM
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If a man or woman dates someone it doesn’t mean they are attracted to their worst qualities, you are wrongfully assuming that what.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:14 PM
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Only a small minority of women would get with a guy who admits things like that even if the guy is really hot. Yeah there’s trashy women who would, we don’t need to run any experiments to know that. Also sometimes those dating profile experiments are fake meaning they fake the results, the screenshots are not of real women responding and they can make it look like way more women matched with that profile than they would have gotten for real. I found out about this because a former incel admittin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:23 AM
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It’s okay for a guy to take a risk and make moves, it’s then on him to proceed the correct way depending on her reaction to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:21 AM
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Men or women are totally in the right to welcome or not welcome whatever advances they want to. Also you do understand that women can be turned off or creeped out by a guy they find to be good looking Right? Many women would tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:16 AM
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Isn’t it kind of anti red piller for the guy to assume the guy was trash…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:11 AM
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That shouldn’t even have to be said though. If you are talking about the qualities you want In a woman I’m going to assume you have to find her attractive and that you wouldn’t want any woman who is kind or a good listener etc, of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:09 AM
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Women like conventionally attractive men, no shit. You are weird for saying that’s weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:06 AM
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Of course it’s pretty common but I wouldn’t generalize most women or most men like that. And who is suggesting that neurodivergents are far more likely to be abusive ( emotionally or physically ) partners ? And I’m a man btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:03 AM
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Again you keep talking about all these options these women have but these are not options for the women because she’s not attracted to them. You can’t expect people to date people they are not into like that. abusive relationships typically don’t start off abusive, it’s something that gradually escalates over time. A lot of the time it’s mutually abusive and two toxic people with each other but the reason a lot of really decent men and women end up with horrible abusive partners is because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:00 AM
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Women say the same things about men and bad women, how they are so much better at spotting bad women. It does seem that men are better at reading other men and women are better at reading other men, that makes sense, it would be weird if that wasn’t the case. Also attraction can blind people so that’s a big factor too and of course shitty men and shitty women often mask themselves and seem like different people to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:40 AM
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So your upset at the women for not dating her simps and the guys in her friend zone ? They are in the friend zone for a reason, she doesn’t see them that way, you can’t expect women to date men they are not attracted to. Also men put themselves in the friendzone.if you are interested in a woman you shoot your shot and if you can’t remain just friends then you move on. And when looking at all the women who stay with or go back to their abusers, image how often that is the case for male victims. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:36 AM
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they ultimately desire enough to tolerate red flags (same of which attracted them to him) Oh so you taking about bad girls. There’s a big difference between tolerating/ ignoring red flags and being specifically attracted to red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:24 AM
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I feel like the men and women who think they will be the exception have higher levels of narcissism. But I have to say, I appreciate how a lot of women don’t automatically believe what an ex girlfriend have said about a guy or is willing to give a guy a chance who may have made some mistakes. A lot of guys shit on women for being too unforgiving but plenty of women are really forgiving and open minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:19 AM
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Why generalize most women as going after charming bums though? I mean yeah Obvously a lot of women do, most men and women are susceptible to falling for the wrong people who mask themselves as charming but I don’t get people wanting to generalize men or women as a whole of choosing badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:16 AM
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It makes sense that both male and female criminals/ cluster b personalities have higher number of sex partners, these people are more interested in casual sex and thus they pursue casual sex a lot more than the general population which leads to them having more partners, that’s the main factor when it comes to number of sex partners. Promiscuity and reckless sexual behavior is a symptom of cluster b personalities. These people are more likely to abuse drugs and that leads to more casual sex, mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:11 AM
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lol bro what percent of women are telling men they don’t care at all about sexual attractiveness ? You’re just making shit up. Most people want a kind partner but Obvously no man or woman would want someone just because they are kind, of course there has to be enough of a mutual attraction and chemistry, you have to check some other boxes. What women are saying that looks don’t matter at all and that only kindness matters ? This notion that women have collectively lied to men about this is just …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:09 AM
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lol bro The typical bar to to one night stand scenario is an average guy hooking up with an average woman. The correlation between male attractiveness and number of sex partners is not as huge as some guys make out to be. Obvously looks matter a hell of a lot but the main factor in that is not looks but how much a guy is pursuing casual sex, the reason why a lot of not very good looking guys have a high body count is because they shoot their shots more than most guys, they go after it, they don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:59 AM
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Women who read toxic love stories or emotionally volatile relationships are not necessarily attracted to that in practice. Wait are there retards who actually think if a woman reads fictional stories like that then that means she’s toxic and violate herself ? God people are fucking stupid. I was mostly talking about how so many men would wrongfully assume like I did that a woman must be some super kinky sexual being because she has read BDSM romance novels. There’s a reason 50 shades of grey sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:04 AM
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I foolishly thought that you can tell what a woman is into sexually/ romantically from the books she reads and thats is just not the case. Women first and foremost read romance novels for the sake of entertainment rather than want they necessarily want in a relationships themselves. Women are just more entertained by all sorts romantic stories than men are whether it be supernatural elements or a story about two gay hockey players. Men can enjoy romance too mostly when it comes to romances in no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:36 AM
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Something I’ve noticed is guys are weird about women’s romance novels and always wanting to bring up how women want to fuck vampires and werewolves lol. Guys need to understand that first and foremost women read romance novels for the sake of entertainment rather than what they want in a relationship themselves. Women are just more entertained than men are by any sort of romantic story whether it be a super supernatural setting or a story about two gay hockey players lol. ( also let’s be honest …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:24 AM
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my girlfiend was taking about maybe getting into that series because it’s seems more fantasy than romance, she doesn’t like straight up romance stuff, she likes badass female protagonists like the ones from hunger games and divergent, stories that have romance it in but it’s not just about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:15 AM
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As a guy who’s really into true crime I actually prefer women’s content about True crime a bit more than men’s , there seems to be more of a focus on the psychology and empathy for the victims. But yeah I do love listening to the last podcast on the left for the humor too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:10 AM
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Comments like this are stupid, people want to date those they find attractive, no shit you goof.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:50 AM
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I feel like an issue is the different meanings and degrees when people say crazy or bad girl/ boy. If someone were to say they like crazy chicks or bad boys most would use those terms playfully, not for a woman who’s an actual lunatic or for someone who is a bad person but ya know someone who is kinda wild and behaves badly according to polite Christian Society. When it comes to bad boys I’ve see people act like having confidence and back bone makes a guy a bad boy which is silly to me. When you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:39 PM
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A good boy can date a bad girl and a good girl can date a bad boy but if someone specifically finds them appealing because of their bad girl/ boy qualities rather than in spite of it than they are “ bad boy/ girl “ themselves. I saw a comment where a guy was talking about a chick who had a phase of dating bad boys and I’m like why are we not acknowledging the fact that she was dating bad boys because she was A BAD GIRL! LIKE ATTRACTS LIKE. She had a bad girl phase. If you are currently doing bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:25 PM
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God forbid women are willing to give guys a chance who may have accused of cheating and as a guy I think it’s good that enough women don’t automatically write guys off because of accusations from other women and I think it’s good that women are willing to take a chance on a guy who have made mistakes. If a woman gets burned they every right to be upset about it and I think it’s lame to ridicule a woman for getting cheated on just because she took a chance on a guy who did it in the past. Also it…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:18 PM
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Most chicks get turned off if you are rude to service workers. Obviously the more attractive you are to people the more you can get away with to a degree but to say no one cares about rudeness is just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:34 AM
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What percent of women would only get with a man who has all of those things ? lol. Look at who most are happily dating and marrying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:33 AM
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People underestimate how many women just like casual sex and how many women will fuck a guy knowing she wouldn’t see herself dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:31 AM
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The typical guy who cheats is an average guy, and the woman he cheats on with is an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:27 AM
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There’s actually not nearly as much of a strong correlation between male attractiveness and number of sex partners/ willing to commit/ cheat as much as some guys suggest there is You hear so many women talk about how they went for a less attractive nerdy guy thinking he wouldn’t cheat on her only for him to cheat lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:27 AM
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No man would want a woman just because she is nice and no shit that it’s the same for women when it comes to men. Of course there has to be enough of a physical attraction and chemistry. The fact that this even has to be said is ridiculous lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:05 PM
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The whole alpha fucks beta bucks thing is stupid becuse a guy being good looking doesn’t make him alpha and a guy is only a beta is he acts like a beta, if he’s a wimp and lets his wife walk over him. Often the men women are hooking up with and cheat on their partners with are wimpy scrawny but handsome dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:32 AM
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Red pill isn't prescriptive, but you're treating it as such. At its core it's just an acknowledgement that the reality of dating and women's preferences are quite different to mainstream discourse. Well for the most part it’s not. Women make it very known that they like confident strong men, that they like fit men and things like success being a big factor is no secret. And when women say they want a nice guy Obvously that doesn’t mean a pushover or a desperate people pleaser, they mean a genuin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:20 AM
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True. Also important to point out that alphas are typically more empathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:04 PM
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Of course most women want a strong man but I mean there are genuinely more women Who are okay with weak men than ever before and that’s why i said there’s never been a better time to be a weak man. While it is publicly accepted and encouraged for men to display weakness, what it brings in reality is denial of opportunities. There’s a confidence in being willing to show some weakness. Hardly anyone is telling people to be a weak crybaby bitch, there’s a difference between that and being more will…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:58 PM
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I get it, you'd rather be coerced by the guy that's naturally a dickhead. I get it, it's part of your nature. Nice guys tend not to be as exciting. What the fuck is your problem bro? And yeah people want to hang out with those that are fun and exciting, if all you have to offer is being nice then yeah that’s not exciting, both men and women want to be around those who are fun, charismatic, funny, interesting, engaging, witty, good story tellers and good listeners. But yeah the way you are charac…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:49 AM
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Being confident, assertive, having back bone, playfully teasing is not being a dick. That’s not women rewarding bad behavior you goof. Why do you want to frame it this way? This is so weird me, I’ve noticed this from bitter “ nice guys “ - who are not as good of people as they think they are btw. I remember my cousin telling me I was being a douche around these girls for playfully teasing them and when I asked the girls about it they were like no you were totally cool, we were having good banter…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:39 AM
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No man or woman would want to date someone just because they are moral, of course there has to be enough of a physical attraction and chemistry etc. You know instantly if you find someone attractive, you know quickly if you feel a chemistry with that person, finding out how good of a person they are and how well you fit takes more time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:28 AM
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That’s red pill game? Calling a mean girl an ice queen ? That’s pretty good because I think most women who are being bitches would like that lol, ice queen sounds badass. And how is that being a dick ? Doesn’t seem like she thought you were being a dick. Teasing is good but what I’ve noticed is some people have this weird toxic way of framing it where they refer to it as being a dick or being an asshole when the whole point of good game is the woman enjoying good banter and there being a good ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:43 AM
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What most women want are masculine men, guys who are confident, strong and have back bone- that doesn’t make a guy an asshole. And don’t act like men are any less guilty of dating toxic/ mean/ crazy bitches and how much blame on I put on these men differ on an individual basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:34 AM
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Totally agree with what you said. And I am sick to death of seeing dudes whining about women dating bad boys as if our gender is any less guilty of going for bad girls. And I’m sick of men generalizing women as liking bad boys, most women do not specially like bad boys, only bad girls do- there’s a difference between dating a guy who happens to have bad boy qualities and specifically liking those qualities. What most women like are masculine men, men who are confident, strong, has back bone, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:16 AM
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It entirely depends on the context, what is the guy crying about ? How often does he crying ? What is the woman’s perception of him as a man? How serious is the relationship? What kind of woman is she? All these factors matter. No woman sees a a guy as weak for crying unless his overall character is weak. A strong man crying provokes not contempt but even more sympathy if anything. I cried in my girlfriends lap and it actually made her more attracted to me, she was extremely touched by me being …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:01 AM
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There was some other thread where a woman was just telling men to pick better and I think it’s lame when either gender does it. A lot of people get involved with someone who seems cool at first only to end up being awful. Women do that “ nice girl” grievance bullshit too, she was complaining about guys choosing hoes and crazy bad girls over classy girls like her lol. These “ nice girls “ and “ nice guys “ are so annoying I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:53 AM
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You really have to get over this notion that a guy has to be a stud in either looks or status to not commit, to cheat and lead women on, you are putting pussy on a pedestal. Most of the guys that are doing these things are not very attractive high value men, it’s average dudes doing it to average women. Most guys can create options for themselves and you know what the biggest factor for that is? Obvously looks and money makes it a lot easier but the biggest factor is pursuing women, they go afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:43 AM
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What a bunch of bs. Let’s keep it real, a lot those wrong men are unfairly demonized. Guys get called assholes for not having back bone by both toxic frustrated woemn and also by self proclaimed nice guys - who aren’t actually good dudes. And men are not less guilty when it comes to dating toxic ass women lmao x
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:32 AM
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So they are shit testing to see how empathic you are ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:26 AM
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The traits that make a man loyal also tend to make him unattractive. That’s just a fact. Sounds like some shit incels would say to demonize chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:59 AM
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As a man I’ll say this …the bar has never been lower for men. There’s never been a more acceptable time for men to be weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:54 AM
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A lot of guys put pussy on such a pedestal and act like you gotta be a stud to have a high body count. The correlation between male attractiveness and number of sex partners is not as strong as these guys think it is. Obvously the better looking you are the easier it is but the main factor in number of sex partners is not looks or money, it’s pursuit. The guys who get laid the most simply pursue women and casual sex way more than most men do, they go after it, they don’t rely on apps and they sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:51 AM
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Yes attraction can blind people, Of course good women can mistakenly fall for bad people but I’m talking about knowingly getting involved with someone they know is a piece of shit from the start. Most chicks get turned off by a guy being rude to service workers for fuck sake lol. But yeah like I said it’s weird af to me how some dudes are really fixated on the small minority of women who are into career criminals- which I remorsefully was one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:04 PM
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And they still got pussy. Women love red flags and badboys Most don’t. And Men are just as guilty of dating the most toxic crazy mean bitches. It’s stupid to generalize either men or women this way. and I say this as someone who used to be more than a walking red flag and still to some degree am because of my criminal record ( robbery ) which has caused a lot of women to reject me. I came out of prison a new man remorseful over the life I had led. I can’t be bitter about People not taking chance…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:11 AM
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The women who specifically want bad boys are bad girls and people typically use those terms playfully and not for people who are total pieces of shit but however you wanna use it for every bad boy there is the female equivalent of that. Men are just as guilty of getting with the bad girls. And men are just as likely to be victims of abuse. And no one wants to be abused. There are men and women who have their kinks but that’s different than actual abuse. Just because people say with or are more p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:00 AM
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Characterizing chads as bad guys is the most pathetic shit ever lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:48 AM
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They get filtered out by most, key word being most. Most women wouldn’t take a chance on a guy if he has record of abuse or allegations that seem credible but of course there’s always going to be women who will give a guy a chance especially if they hit it off and there’s an attraction and chemistry- attraction can blind people. And god knows men are just as likely to be victims of toxic and abusive women. As a reformed ex con who has gotten rejected by a lot of women for having been in prison I…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:46 AM
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As a reformed ex con I find it really bizzare how so many guys who discuss dating online are obsessed with whining about the women who date criminals. A lot of these guys they talk about are men most women would never want to even touch and the minority of women who do well they wouldn’t want those type of women would they ? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:38 AM
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I find it silly to even call that a soft harem, a guys having casual sex with alot of different women is not a harem. And not all of these guys are chads, the correlation between male attractiveness and number of sex partners is not nearly as strong as some suggest. The main factor when it comes to guys who have a high body count is they simply pursued women and casual sex more than most men. There’s a-lot of unattractive guys who have had a lot of sexual partners and of course those women are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:34 AM
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Most women can’t take an actually big dick well. Of course size matters, for every vagina a dick can be too big or too small. The reason why women say size doesn’t matter is because only a small minority of dicks are extreme in being very small or very big, most dicks can be worked with. Size queens have bigger vaginas and thus require more size to get the same amount of friction that most women get from more average cocks. As a guy with a really big dick I’ll tell you this, it’s quite a hindera…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:15 AM
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Yeah god knows men are certainly not any less guilty of rewarding bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:05 AM
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Flip the dynamic and you get erosion of the social contract. You get good men saying "Fuck it. Why shouldn't I be a selfish asshole? It seems to work just fine for them." Are guys who think like that good men? And there’s guy who may be nice but not necessarily good men. There’s a difference between nice and good, being a good man requires conviction, back bone. A pushover cannot be considered a good man. People who are legit assholes typically make things worse for themselves, they have to suff…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:03 AM
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Early on, when a woman is attractive and doesn’t need to worry about mundane things like housing or food, she may prioritize dating a highly successful “alppha” over a faithful beta lol a guy being physically attractive doesn’t make him an alpha, you have wimpy scrawny pretty boys a lot of women go for and also betas are not necessarily faithful either. As an adult, I came across a Facebook page in my city called “Are We Dating the Same Person.” I wasn’t allowed to join, but I was able to read s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:49 AM
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lol you have no idea what you are talking about. Over 7 inches is too long for most chicks and when I mean too long I’m talking about going to pound round And leaving the nuts hanging out, Obvously anyone with a long dick can be careful and make it work to where they don’t bash the girls cervix but that’s less fun for both the man and the woman, both men and women want a good vagina dick size compatibility to where they can go pelvis to pelvis and it feel great. Btw I know all this because I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:20 AM
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Well endowed ? Not well well endowed though, only a minority of women can take a really big dick well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:10 AM
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As a guy I say this, the bar has never been lower. There’s never been a more accepting time to be weak man , to be a fat fuck. If you are masculine and physically fit then you have set yourself apart from a huge portion of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:08 AM
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There’s a big difference between having an instagram and living on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:06 AM
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I dont think they are saying every single interaction is scripted because Obvously not and there’s so many times he embarrasses himself and he gets rejected a lot despite being good looking. It’s pretty clear there been some things with him that are just def scripted. That one accident of that girl cheating on her fiancé and sitting on his lap was real but the other ones were so fucking fake, you could tell they were acting and the boyfriend didn’t even sound upset. And Miami is a cesspool of in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:58 AM
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Why is there more focus on women dating bad boys then there is on men dating bad girls ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:41 AM
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Yeah Obvously just be yourself is bad advice and a lot of women give that but so do men, plenty of women give really good advice to men and it’s no worse than men’s. Women are overwhelmingly loud and clear about how much they like confidence in men, women are more likely than men to advise men to give more unique compliments besides “ you cute “ which is good advise because she already knows you think so and pretty women also want to feel cool, smart, fun, stylish. When it comes to advise on how…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:36 AM
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Wouldn’t most red pillers say women want masculine men and that it’s unfair that masculine men get characterized as assholes? Being assertive and having back back doesn’t make you an asshole. Only retards would generalize women as liking assholes, are there women who want legit assholes ? Sure but obviously that’s a small minority of women, toxic women and toxic men like each other. What most women want are strong masculine men, they want good men, a good man is a strong man. A pushover cannot b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:20 AM
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That would only be a really small fringe minority of them you goof.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:22 PM
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Dude. shoot your fucking shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:21 PM
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Well if a woman is actually being a bitch then yeah you shouldn’t be so nice to her, that’s totally different. Using the word negging here is just stupid. Negging is supposed to be a seduction tactic and if you actually make a woman feel insulted then you have failed, you have made it less likely she’s going to want to go with you, you can still get her but that’s only because she found you attractive enough to begin with. And are red pill dudes this retarded? Like there’s so much common sense b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:08 PM
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It’s funny how negging gets such a bad rap, the negging that people condemn is not even what negging is supposed to be and it’s not the negging that works. The definition of negging is now something else that wouldn’t be productive as a seduction tactic. If you are just insulting someone and the woman is offended then you fucking failed lol. The main PUA gurus who popularized it made that clear that if you are coming across a jerk then you are doing it wrong. The whole point is for there to be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:45 AM
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I hate the “ don’t ask a fish how to catch a fish “ line… unlike fish women want to be caught, they want men to be more appealing. Do a lot of women give shit advice ? Absolutely but once you get past the “ just be yourself “ shit that both a lot of men and women give many women can give really good advice to men. Women are overwhelmingly very upfront about how much confidence in men matters, women are more likely to recommend men give more unique compliments besides saying “ I thought you look …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:10 AM
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Both men and women do this, there are women that are are good enough to just fuck and then there’s serious relationship material, all that matters for the former is looks really and the latter it’s everything else- not that looks and sex don’t matter as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:45 AM
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and if you take care yourself ( healthy lifestyle/ consistent exercise, moisturizer, sunscreen then you should be as physically attractive at 40 as you are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:35 AM
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What a weird comment. Why would you generalize women as loving druggies ? Most women would not enter a relationship with a guy who does drugs and most women have no interest in having to fix anyone, most women want a finished product. There’s a much higher percentage of men than women who would be willing to get involved with a woman who is a drug addict and that’s because 1) there’s more men who do drugs themselves 2 ) men are less picky and less risk adverse and if anything wanting to fix some…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:57 AM
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Fo you think women are can only show empathy when they have baby fever ? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:55 AM
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You think most women are against the door being held for them ? lol those weird ass women who complain about that being sexist don’t represent most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:50 AM
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I did stuff like this to make make an ex girlfriend break up with me- it worked very quickly lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:46 AM
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What do you mean ? I’m just saying what the phrase is in reference to, Obvously it’s not in reference to a genuinely nice guy/ girls who have a back bone and self respect because these people typically finish first in life - likability + respect. The key in life to maximize success and well being is You are reasonably nice to people unless they give you a reason not to and you don’t shit take from people. Technically niceness is niceness no matter how genuine or superficial it is but I would say…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:21 PM
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The most common example they give of women’s actions and words not matching is “Women say they want good men but date/fuck assholes!” Which is basically Nice Guys Finish Last Only idiots say shit like that. The main thing is them going on about women downplaying how much they care about looks and money etc Most red pillers would say there’s a difference between being genuinely nice from a position of strength and being a pushover or people pleaser, between being a nice guy and a good man https:/…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:15 PM
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Can men and woemn be contradictory ? Sure but I wouldn’t generalize either men or women as a whole that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:32 PM
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I agree with you about entitled “ nice guys “ But that guy never mentioned that so you are assuming that’s what he was talking about? obviously the phrase nice guys finish last is not in reference to genuine nice guys but passive pushovers and desperate people pleasers. It’s pretty clear that most women would want a genuine nice guy with a back bone and self respect. Often the most masculine and toughest guys are really genuinely nice and kind. there is a difference between niceness and kindness…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:31 PM
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And coming to surveys - women say one thing and in action they do completely different. I would rather look at what they do vs what they say I think it’s really odd how he pointed out women saying they want kindness and the book no Mr nice guy as if those are opposite things. First off There’s a difference between niceness and kindness and “ no Mr nice guy guy” is in not talking about genuine nice dudes with back bones and self respect which most women would want but passive pushovers, desperate…
/r/seduction16/04/26 12:04 PM
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Surveys asking women found out that 90% look for kindness in their partner, while we have whole books like “no more mister nice guy”. I’m not trying to be a dick but I’m baffled if you think those are the opposite bro. First off there’s a difference between niceness and kindness and second no more Mr nice guy is not in reference to genuine nice guys who have back bones and self respect - which most women would want, that book is about not being a passive pushover, not being a desperate people pl…
/r/seduction16/04/26 11:57 AM
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Do you buy that? Do you think anger makes you hornier ? It’s just people are attracted and horny in spite of the anger they feel, and when it comes to make up sex it’s not just attraction, it’s affection and love , you make up and it’s such a relief and sex is such a stress and frustration reliever. But regarding what the OP is saying, if that guys playful banter and teasing actually worked then those women were not actually offended, they weren’t actually mad. This is the issue when it comes to…
/r/seduction16/04/26 11:42 AM
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he would insult a girl she would get mad and started punching him , he would grab her and started playfighting and she was always coming back for more , he always managed to sleep with them eventually Playful banter and Teasing is great but This is the issue when it comes to the discussion of it. She wasn’t actually insulted or felt mad if this banter and teasing was helpful. This way of framing it leads to some people getting the wrong idea. women will play like they are mad and say “ you’re su…
/r/seduction16/04/26 10:53 AM
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Are you retarded? Assholes over masculine ? Really bro? No the overwhelming majority of women do not prefer that shit and I say that as someone who was regretfully the worst of those things which led to me doing prison time. The women I dated and who liked the kind of person I was do not even come close to representing most women, because most women would find those things to be very unattractive. The women I dated were just as bad if not worse than me because at the time that’s who I wanted, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:29 PM
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Nice guys finish last is not in reference to genuine niceness, it’s in reference to passive pushovers and desperate people pleasers, of course those people finish last. When women say they want a nice guy Obvously that’s not what they are talking about, they mean a genuine nice guy with a back bone and self respect. Women like masculine men, confident, strong, assertive, with back bone, that doesn’t make a guy an asshole. Generalizing women as liking assoles it’s stupid and it plays into demoniz…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:39 PM
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Women prefer masculine men, men who are confident, strong, assertive, have back bone. That doesn’t make a guy an asshole, most women get turned off by guys being rude to a waiter for fuck sake. The only women who are specifically attracted to legit asshole behavior are women who are assholes themselves- like attracts like
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:30 PM
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Because Many women have asked me to do certain things they had never been with a guy like me That’s an awesome feeling isn’t it ? And don’t just think about them finding you so hot to want to do more kinkier things with you for the first time because for most that also says a lot about how they view your character and how much they trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 10:35 AM
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Well You can go about self improvement or looksmaxing in a cool way or you can be a cringy retard about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:40 AM
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Obviously if guys get into good shape and get more confident and work on their social skills they are going to be more attractive and get more dates. The most effective and productive advocacy of the red pill is the most basic stuff that’s not exclusive to the red pill. Where the red pill fails is when it becomes the male version of toxic feminism - led by a victim mindset that demonizes the opposite sex and sees it as a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:51 AM
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lol that’s not it at all man, she’s just was not super arroused by doing all that extra shit, she just liked regular vanilla sex. Shes explored it and She let me tie her up ( which I like doing) but it just doesn’t do much for her and that’s okay, different folks, different strokes. And no I did not come across a a psycho or anything, I am an ex con and I do have a violent past but I had been reformed and was a different man by the time I was with her and she knew that, I know it’s really import…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:22 AM
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. Also something to point out is how a lot of women who read the 50 shades of grey series are very vanilla. Women read romance first and foremost for the sake of entertainment not for what they necessarily want in their own romantic And sexual life. A woman doesn’t have to be into BDSM herself to want to read a series about a BDSM couple. I found this out by dating such a. Woman. When I saw those books on her shelf I got excited because I’m into BDSM but I was surprised and disappointed to find …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:38 PM
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What’s interesting to me is how Apprently a lot of women like to imagine themselves as the gay top in gay romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:35 PM
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What’s there to be explained ? He’s a a great looking guy and a great actor ( seems like a likable nice guy in real life too) , and it’s women who have critized that movie the most. What’s funny is a lot of men got dragged to that movie by their girlfriends but they ended up liking it more than their girlfriends, that was the case with me and mine, she felt they didn’t have great chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:33 PM
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Not true because you don’t see girls dating the guys who get bullied but the bullies. What’s your fucking point? Women can be bullies too, theres alot of guys who date mean ass girls. Or the nerds don’t get fangirled over but the jocks certainly do. What are we demonizing jocks like some silly teen movie ? You sound like a total dork bro. It’s not the same for a guy, a guy would consider a book girl a green flag. Women are far more likely to find a guy more attractive for being a reader than the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:20 PM
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The generalization that simps have made women as a whole entitled is bullshit. These minority of entitled thots you see on podcasts like fresh and fit don’t even come close to representing most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:08 PM
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Hypergamy has declined, there’s only been more and more of an increase in women marrying men of lower wealth and educational status as them. And There’s a difference between a preference and a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:06 PM
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Yes absolutely, Most of the men they are complaining about are average men. It’s silly when people assume it’s stud lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:00 PM
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And yet there are no clear guidelines what triggers "a sense of connection" for specific woman. so what should women do bro? Before first dates had out a send guidelines of how to create a spark with them? Lol real man would know how to do it, and if he doesn't than he's not worthy of me". You are projecting onto to women. Most women are not going to not see any guy they don’t feel a chemistry or spark with as not a “real man”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:47 PM
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To say there are just no rules as a general statement is wrong. When it comes to being perceived as creepy obviously looks matter, the more attractive you are to people the more you can get away with but only to a degree, we shouldn’t exggerate that. The issue is I see guys characterizing women as only finding guys creepy if they find them unattractive but plenty of women will tell you they have come across handsome guys they found creepy and were turned off by because of their behavior. But yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:35 PM
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Yeah women often through out history married men out of survival or because they were forced to.. what’s your point ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:00 PM
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Low self esteem means a man or women will more likely tolerate a person being terrible more so than gravitating towards people like that.- and manipulative immoral people target people like that and take advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:54 PM
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Percentage wise it’s not a lot of women, especially “ evil” and when it comes to BDSM most women into it aren’t much into the humiliation aspect of it, male Submissives are more into that aspect than than female submissive. Just because you want to be dominated it doesn’t mean you want to be humiliated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:45 PM
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What a silly generalization. No man wants a woman he finds boring, if he like a woman many would find boring then she’s really not boring to him. Everyone wants something they find excitin, fun and interesting but what’s exciting, fun and interesting differs to different sorts of people. Most women would prefer a laid back guy to a dramatic guy. And men like drama just as much as women do. Let’s Keep it real A lot of guys have a thing for crazy bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:43 PM
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It’s stupid to suggest a man must be a bad person if the can’t get laid but those women are speaking for themselves and projecting because most women will not knowingly fuck or get into a relationship with a bad person as you say but of course some will because just like there are bad men there are bad women and like attracts like, birds of a feather.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:36 PM
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well to be a domestic abuser you have to have a girlfriend first and of course there’s plenty of women who want drugs so if you are a drug dealer you have something those women want so to say “ someone how these men are always with a woman is silly. Same with female abusers and female drug dealers. At some point these women should be accountable What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:30 PM
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Of course There is a positive correlation between male attractiveness and number of sex partners but not nearly as big as some suspect. The main factor in a man’s Body count is simply how much he pursues casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:13 PM
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I’ll say this though,if a woman is not as physically hot at 40 as she ever was then it’s her own fault ( unless there’s some medical issues that were beyond her control of course ) When women ( and men) really take care of themselves ( healthy lifestyle, proper skincare ) they age very well and can remain hot for a long time. One of the big things is sunscreen, sun damage is responsible for most wrinkles and loss of Collegen/ firmness. There’s a lot of women who moisturize everyday but don’t wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:23 AM
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It makes sense that male and female criminals or those with cluster b personalities are going to have more kids. These are reckless people and they are going to be reckless when it comes to sex and good decision making which results in them bringing more kids into the world they are not suited to take care of. It’s silly to frame these men and women as more reproductively successful for bringing more kids into the world that they are well suited to take care of, because of their irresponsible be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:33 AM
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Because just like there are evil men there are evil women, like attracts like. People are naturally drawn to those who are more than less the male and female versions of themselves when it comes to personality, interests and values.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:26 AM
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Are there women that would knowingly pick an evil guy ? Of course because just like theres awful men there are awful women , theres always going to be plenty of women like that but that’s a small minority of women, only a fringe minority of women would knowingly pick someone that admits to something fucked up like being a pedophile etc. We don’t need to make fake profiles to know that there’s really shitty women out there but in regards to that there are people who fake those experiments. Of cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:22 AM
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Would you say men are addicted to emotional stimulation too? Whatever you mean by that Because god knows us men are just as guilty of finding themselves making horrible dating decisions. Attraction can blind people. Men are better at reading other men and women are better at reading other women. And when it comes to abusive relationships men are just as likely to be victims, just as likely to Stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:19 AM
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Women can't have the tingles of being led and dictated by men who get their panties wet without the risk of being abused or manipulated. It’s the exact same thing with men, how may men find themselves with in the most fucked situations with the most awful crazy women because they thinking with their dick ? Attraction can really blind people, both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:15 AM
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Sometimes that is def the case. Women like masculine men and you have weak men who want to demonize masculine men and unfairly label them as assholes for being confident, assertive and having back bone and thus characterize women as liking jerks for liking masculine men. But yeah most men and women could fall victim to a really manipulative person, especially if they are attractive, attraction can blind us. I would say men are better at reading other men and women are better at reading other wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:07 AM
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Men are better at reading other men and women are better at reading other women. And attraction can blind people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:06 AM
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Using Chad as a deraotry term ? What is it 2018? lol. But yeah women are not a monolith. Those women who say women’s intuition dont represent all women. I think most men and women could agree that we all could fall victim to a really manipulative person especially if we find them attractive because attraction can you blind you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:05 AM
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A lot of shit testing is just playfully teasing where no one’s feelings is getting hurt and it’s good banter which is what proper negging is. The definition of begging changed to what it was suported to be. The PUA gurus who popularized it clearly said if you are coming across as an asshole and making a woman feel insulted then you are doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:57 AM
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I dated a chick who had the 50 shades of grey novels on her shelf and when I saw that I got excited because I’m into BDSM but she ended up being them most vanilla chick ever. I assumed that since she has those books she had be into BDSM and a sub but she wasn’t. There’s a reason that series sold so well, a bunch of vanilla women bought it too. She said you don’t have to be into BDSM to be interested and entertained by a story like that and she pointed out just because I play GTA it doesn’t mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:28 AM
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Nah the main reason women read romance novels is for entertainment more than because they are desiring a romance in their own live they don’t have. Plenty of women in happy marriages consume all types of romance novels. Women are just more entertained by romantic fiction. I dated a chick who had the 50 shades of grey novels on her shelf and when I saw that I got excited because I’m into BDSM but she ended up being them most vanilla chick ever. I assumed that since she has those books she had be …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:26 AM
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Why are you being so weird about it bro? lol it’s fucking fiction. There’s no magic powerful beings for you to compete with it lol The whole point of romance novels is entertainment, it’s drama, it’s escapism, there’s all different types of stories and although there’s plenty of normal stories how you make a romantic story inherently more interesting is by adding elements of magic and fantasy and all these exciting things. A romance involving something like vampires is inherently more interestin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:14 AM
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The funny thing is if vampires and werewolves were real men would be more willing to fuck them than women would lol… men aren’t as willing to read romantic fiction about them because we men just aren’t into reading romance as much but we would be more willing fuck them- because men have higher sex drives and are less risk adverse. Helpfully it would be good vampires and werewolves like the love interests in romantic fiction and not john carpenters vampires lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:57 AM
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Theres women telling other women don’t be the nice lover girl, be mean and act crazy to men on purpose which will make him release vasopressin (it’s a stress hormone and it’s men’s main hormone that gets them attached where as women’s is OxyContin) What’s scary is all the women saying it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:08 AM
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I would argue that men put up with toxic and abusive women even more than women do for a variety of reasons. One of the main reasons is men’s refusal to even want to see themselves as a victim because they are a man, there’s a shame in admitting that. There’s a feeling of Since they are a man and the stronger sex they can handle it. Men are less likely to be suported as victims. There’s the fear of a woman falsely accusing them. Something else I would say is it’s actually men who have more of an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:09 AM
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I said that in my comment. He’s just taking the women’s word for it when it’s common knowledge that both men and women have a tendency to speak poorly of their exes, to exggerate how bad they were and to downplay their own faults for the relationship failing. And he’s just assuming those woman were with their exes because of their worst qualities. And regarding anxiously attached women. A big misconception is they are specifically attracted to avoidance which is not true, there are people who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:42 AM
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Yes Men are just as prone to falling victim to that as women are. Robert green the author of the art of seduction talks about how he had a weakness for falling for coquette women. The coquette is a type of seducer that blows hot and cold and they are typically depicted as female. He uses Josephine ( napoleons girl ) as an example. The push pull can be effective but it depends on the type of person, it differs. Overall its effectiveness is probaly a bit overrated. There’s a middle ground between …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:18 AM
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The way you frame it is a bunch of nonsense. First of all men are just as guilty for falling for the most toxic women, women who are cruel users, women who are straight up crazy bitches. How many men say they have crazy ex’s? A lot. Something to take into consideration is the fact that a lot of people have a tendency to speak poorly of their exes and to exggerate how bad they actually were, to downplay their own faults in the relationship. And ex’s are exes for a reason ! Just because they dated…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:07 AM
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I said there’s a wide variety of takes outside of the most effective advice it gives. There’s a lot of different perspectives and things guys advocate for and disagree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 12:33 AM
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The thing about the red pill is the best advice is the most basic shit which is not exclusive to the red pill ( hit the gym, be more masculine and confident) and then it’s wide variety of different takes and many guys who are basically the male version of toxic feminism- demonizing the opposite sex and seeing it as a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:09 PM
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The term Alpha widow is stupid because alot Of the guys they are pining for were not even that alpha, being good looking doesn’t make a guy an alpha. The term alpha fucks beta bucks is stupid as well. A guy being less attractive and providing for a woman doesn’t make him beta. He’s only a beta if he allows people to walk over him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:06 PM
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The best advice from the red pill is nothing exclusive to the red pill, it’s basic stuff like hitting the gym and being more assertive in life etc. the issue with the red pill is it becomes the male version of toxic feminism where you demonize the opposite sex and see it as a zero sum game. The things that the red pill advocates for that is productive for men is not the things that women dislike about the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:01 PM
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No man would want a woman just because she’s a good person and it’s the same for women when it comes to men. of course there has to be enough of a mutual attraction. The best of what the red pill advocates is not anything exclusive to it, it’s just basic stuff like hitting the gym and being More assertive in life etc. the issue with the red pill is that it basically becomes the male version of toxic feminism where you demonize the opposite sex and treat it like some zero sum game. And what kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:51 PM
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That guy is a retard and he likes comic strips that demonize masculine muscular men. He replied to me with this comic. <image> This is some Pathetic nice guy grievance bullshit. Red pill is supposed to be pro masculine. And notice how the comic is saying we should assume the scrawny guys in the background are good men ? So fucking lame. And yeah there are both women and men who get burned and then want to say where are all the good men and women and that’s lame when either gender does it. No man…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:32 PM
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Yeah slutty chicks who like dirty talk are a thing. What’s your point dude ? What is your response to what I said about the comic strip that demonizes masculine muscular men and makes it out that scrawny men are good men. If you are red pill which is pro masculine shouldn’t you be against that bullshit ? Seriously I’m just curious, I’m interested in your take.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:37 PM
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Negging can definitely be cringe and that’s why the definition of it became something it was never supposed to be. The main pick artist gurus never said it was about putting women down and offending them - because that’s not going to work and help guys get laid Obvously. What works is when the women are not offended and she doesn’t think the guy is being jerk even when making a negative remark.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:47 AM
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An issue a lot of guys have is coming across as jerks when teasing and bantering. What’s funny about the whole negging thing is the Wikipedia definition of negging is not what negging is supposed to even be, it’s not the negging that acfually works. The main pick up artists gurus who popularized it said if you are just coming across as a jerk offending people then you are doing it wrong. Neil Strauss, in his book Rules of the Game, also stresses that the primary point of the technique is not to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:30 AM
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It’s so annoying how whenever men and women go on about things they want in a partner that doesn’t have to with looks there always has to be people saying “ WeLL nOt if ThEre uGly “ like no shit of course they are not saying they want any funny or kind person , of course there has to be enough of a mutual physical attraction. People shouldn’t have to mention that when discussing the qualities they are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:23 AM
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Such a stupid comic strip. demonizing masculine muscular men- that’s not very red pill. That’s some pathetic “nice guy “ greivence bullshit. So We have to assume Those skinny looking guys in the background must be good guys right? lol. Let’s say they are good guys, that doesnt make them entitled to those women wanting them in a sexual or romantic sense. No man would want a woman just because she’s nice or a good person and it’s the same for women when it comes to men. Of course there has to be e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:56 AM
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I understand guys wishing more women approached but guys getting upset at women for not doing a is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:17 AM
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People who want to bring up the small fringe minority of sicko women who would write love letters to serial killers are being retards. 99% of women would be repulsed at the idea of doing so- because they have empathy and regard for innocent victims. This whole thing gets blown out of proportion. These killers get really famous in the media so Of course out of hundreds of hundreds of millions of people there are gonna be some sickos sending them love letters. Considering how famous they are the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:14 AM
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Why not call the whores bad girls lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:11 PM
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Why do some guys say women like bad boys instead of saying bad girls like bad boys? Not saying that a non bad girl s don’t ever date a bad boy but there’s a difference in dating a guy in spite of his bad boy qualities and a bad girl who is specifically attracted to bad boy qualities. Like attracts like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:53 AM
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Your putting pussy on a pedestal but not realizing it. Obvously the better looking you are the easier it is but the Main correlation between number of sex partners is not looks or money, it’s simply pursuing it more than most men do. A lot of average guys have high body counts because they went after it, they didn’t rely on dating apps and they played the numbers game, they put themselves in more and better positions to get laid and yea typically the women they hook up with aren’t the most desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:41 AM
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Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Pointing out the difference between a nice guy and good man is a very pro masculinity message and it’s something you hear a lot of influential men talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:34 AM
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How could you say it’s semantics ? There’s absolutely a difference between nice and good, between niceness and kindness. Niceness is more selfish and kindness is more selfless. Niceness is being agreeable, complimentary, conflict avoidant where as kindness is about really caring and putting in the effort to help other people. Kindness is of more substance. The less a man is confident, strong, has back bone the less he is able to be kind and do good, the less he is able to help people, protect pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:20 AM
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No one wants to be bored and everyone wants excitement but what people find boring and exciting differs to different sorts of people. Men are just as likely to be victims of abuse btw. Most men and women don’t know the person is going to abuse them. Abuse is something that typically gradually escalates over time. A lot of decent men and women get fooled by a shitty person making themselves to appear as charming. And yea it’s true a lot of the time the man and women saw signs they would be mistre…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 06:46 AM
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Semantics. Men are more likely to say they are single unless they are currently in a full on committed serious relationship with one person where as a women are less likely to say they are single if they are in any kid of ongoing sexual relationship someone. I’ve seen this play out a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:01 PM
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Men are just as guilty when it comes to going for the most awful fucking women but yet you dont see women complain about men dating these kinds of women nearly as much. if the main thing about you as a woman or man is that you are nice then yeah your boring. no one wants to be bored by their partner. and besides theres a difference between being nice and good. and men are just as likely to be victims of abuse, just as likely to stay with and go back to their abusive girlfriend/wife.
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