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ComprehensiveRare_Marzipan481/r/seduction17/09/24 02:32 AM
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Incorrect, all I've done is explain the actions I've taken and their failure. Pretending that my conversation is just excuses is way for you to redirect rather than to address an actual solution. You're the dense one here friend.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:22 PM
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HOW DO I APPROACH WHEN I KNOW I'M UNATTRACTIVE AND LACK THE CONFIDENCE TO? I've tried, I just have nothing that helps. I'm not self sabotaging, I'm explaining my circumstances. It's not in my head, it's literally evidence I have based on experience. Just admit it rather than lying to me and to yourself.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:21 PM
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What context is missing exactly? Ask, I'll answer. But if you're just "hoping" somehow I get help, even though I've explained the various forms of help I've tried, but you still think I should keep trying the same thing and expect different results, then you're working off the definition of insanity. I ask for something I haven't tried, and yet all I get is what I have, which I have proof from the state I am now that it ultimately doesn't work.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:18 PM
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I wish I could lose weight permanently. But I can't, like I explained. The other 4-5 things are essentially useless if you look like a balloon.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:16 PM
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I just said it is an explanation. Explanation: a reason or justification given for an action or belief. A statement or account that makes something clear.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:11 PM
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Every single thing you listed is something I have tried before. I can't do the work anymore because I have proof that it doesn't work or doesn't maintain. I know I CAN, I'm saying that IT DOESN'T WORK. There's no point to losing 5 pounds if you're still overweight, and gain 15 pounds after losing the 5.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:09 PM
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I have tried, and lost some weight before, except I gained it all back. That's how I know it's pointless.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:07 PM
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I acknowledge it isn't, but that doesn't change the point.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:07 PM
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I've tried keto, intermittent fasting, and I literally finished carnivore like 2 months ago. Again, none help because it's not sustainable, it takes more effort than I can expend. If I lost weight, I highly doubt my self esteem would change. I just see weight as a factor against attraction, as well as self esteem, cand general comfort. It won't improve if I lose it, but it is negative if I keep it.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:07 PM
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I told you I'm unattractive. Youi demand I show my identity on the internet. Those aren't correlated. You know for a fact I can't be helped, but you lie to yourself and others. You just want to make fun of me further.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:05 PM
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You're the delusional one here. I explained everything very clearly, if you have nothing of substance, just admit that my statement is true, there ARE some people by no fault of their own, who cannot become attractive.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:02 PM
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Right now since I'm not tracking, you're probably right, But in the times I counted calories, I lost weight, and when I stopped, I gained it all back and more. So this doesn't work, unless you spend your entire life counting, which I lack the discipline and effort to do. I can for say 2 months, but by no means even a year. That's why I say I cannot be helped. I've tried. Didn't work.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:01 PM
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How am I afraid of failing? I've done plenty of it. I tried therapy, and antidepressants, and am still this way. It's not changable. Maybe acknowledge that. I'm not a child, these arguments are perfectly simple to understand. I don't have people in my life who care about me. I'm alone, and that's fine. What's not fine is when other people tell me I'm not doing enough, when I've literally tried EVERYTHING they posit. Then they refuse to acknowledge they are wrong, but instead say it's me, even th…
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:51 PM
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I haven't been to the gym in 3 months. I don't exercise at home, as when I did I got no results. I don't have friends, just acquaintances that I see in classes or when my roommates have them over. The truth I wish you to acknowledge is that some people are unable to attract women because of something unchangable about themselves, that they can't by no means of their own. My headspace is fine, I don't understand how I'm wrong. I don't give myself compassion or love because I've never done that, d…
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:48 PM
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I am asking fro WHAT I can do differently, but no advice is giving me anything new. I'm not frustrated with my progress, I'm frustrated with comments that ignore the fact that what they're proposing doesn't help based on existing evidence.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:44 PM
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So what can I do about that then? It's not an excuse, it's an explanation.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:42 PM
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Yeah but that doesn't change that I'm unattractive, fat, and unable to approach or find women to ask out.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:40 PM
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I've tried the gym, I have to study for school already, I have tried walks, that stuff hasn't made me better. I think everything will work out either way, but I just don't want to end my life in loneliness. I want to have a partner to love and know. I'm only in despair that that will never be a life I can have, and that it's out of my control.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:37 PM
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Thank you for acknowledging that some people cannot be helped, despite wanting to change, that sometimes there is no path for them. I won't hire escorts until I'm in my 30s-40s, as by then my possibility for ever changing will be 0.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:36 PM
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I have been hungry. I can endure hunger. But that isn't a feeling I can tolerate indefinitely. In doing diets, I have been hungry. But ultimately I gain the weight back when I start eating again. I have no way of regulating permamently. That is a change in lifestyle, and I don't know how to do that.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:34 PM
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I'm asking you. Clearly the people in these situations are not me. I and plenty of other ment, do not have ability to attract. And despite attempts at changing, everything remains the same.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:31 PM
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If the only way for me to improve would be for someone to posess my body and make me do all the things I should do naturally, and that's not possible, then that's not a solution. If people can only guide but can't help me make the change, and I'm unable to make, then clearly I'm not helpable. I'm not afraid of failure, I'm tired of it. I am trying to take the advice of the comments section I haven't tried before, but unfortunately save for a few comments, all are essentially the same. I CAN'T HE…
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:30 PM
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That doesn't help. I don't know how to be a man or to just do it. Plus even trying to be a man and "doing it" hasn't helped, because I'm back at the same spot.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:52 PM
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I'm almost 26. My headspace is fine. I just want to acknowledge truth. And this subreddit is dishonest about it.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:50 PM
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I don't have reggae festivals anywhere near me, and I also hate gatherings of people
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:50 PM
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It's not cooked, it's just acknowledging a fact of life.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:49 PM
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Well I tried to fix everything. Didn't work, so I acknowledge it. If I didn't care to fix anything, would I even be here?
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:49 PM
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I'm not trying to ruin others' day, but they are being liars when they propose that seduction is something anyone can do. They should specifiy and say seduction is possible for people who can become attractive, not for the people who never will be. It's lying. If you have methods, propose them. If you have encouragement NOT based in lies, put it forth. But don't just lie and pretend, that's dishonest and false.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:48 PM
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I tried fasting, calorie counting, etc. I lost weight, and gained it back eventually. There's nothing that can be done if a diet or exercise doesn't last forever, and I can't do it forever because eventually I fall off.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:45 PM
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I tried that, I got a 4.8 on the first I tried. Second time was a 5.8. I trust the first result more, probably closer to a 3. Facial features aren't as important as body, and for that I know I'm like a 1
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:44 PM
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I want help, this is not a pity party. I'm 26, not a teenager. Brain finishes developing at my age. All I'm saying is that if there is something I have not tried that can help, that would be something I could try. But all the responses are "change your mindset," or "lose weight" but I've tried those things and I don't know how. I just try, but fail. So if all the advice doesn't work, then I AM the exception? Do you not see the point?
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:39 PM
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I'm not making excuses, I'm explaining why some people cannot change regardless of the fact they want to.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:37 PM
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Thank you, I agree.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:36 PM
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Thank you, I agree.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:36 PM
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And some people are unable to develop attraction based on their unattractiveness. Do we not agree? Jay Z became attractive by his money and fame. Same with Duke de Lauzun.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:35 PM
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Yes exactly, and I don't know how to do that.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:34 PM
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I don't think so, I think there are some unattractive people who can, and some who just can't.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:33 PM
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So what you seem to be arguing for is money to pay for improvements that are superficial. I have tried that, and it didn't change anything. I won't stop until people here who are lying just recognize that some people are unable to change their circumstances by no fault of their own, being it's just the way they are, and that ultimately seduction advice is pointless for them.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:33 PM
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I tried, he's just just harsh and says just do it. But then I don't, and am still stuck. "Just do it" is advice, but not something that can help someone who is unable to.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:30 PM
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Why would I continue to try something that does not work? It's just more pain and suffering for the same result of failure. I can't even do a pullup, despite trying for years. That's how pathetic I am. There isn't a way to make progress for someone like me.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:29 PM
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I don't want to look like the comic book store guy from the simpsons, and I don't want to date a girl with downs syndrome. Maybe that's arrogant of me, but I can't help that. If I could find a partner, I would. But I can't, so what does that say? I can't say I've tried everything in the "attraction book," because ultimately you need to approach. And I can't for my own fear, unattractiveness, and lack of self esteem. And I HAVE tried all the advice to get over it, which essentially amounts to "ju…
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:28 PM
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I tried quitting the victim talk. It didn't work, I just fell back into it. I don't practice cbt or dbt because when I tried, it didn't work. I hardly remember, it was when I was in therapy in high school, and depression has more or less fractured my memory. Ultimately at this point since there's no answer, it's really just waiting for death.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:24 PM
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Exactly. Some people cannot be helped, even if they want to help themselves, because they're incapable of it.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:22 PM
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Then tell me how to. If it's just "get better" then you're conceding that you don't have an answer, and that I'm right.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:22 PM
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I literally know no one like that. So I'm doomed again. I'm not going to move to another country. I've visited plenty off the generosity of my family, but would be unable to exist if not able to speak the language.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:21 PM
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I don't believe that. Maybe attraction can be based on other personality factors, but if the rate in physical attractiveness is too great a divide, then no, it doesn't matter how attractive a man is in personality.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:20 PM
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I am not quadriplegic, and I'm grateful for it. But I am ugly. I am fat. Posting would only lead to ridicule.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:18 PM
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I want to be it, and I want to become it. The problem is, I'm not it, and I don't know how to change. I tried, and ultimately found I can't.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:18 PM
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I googled it already when I responded. I tried losing weight, ultimately I can't. Every time I've ever been remotely successful, I just gain it back. If I could I would. But because I can't, then ultimately nothing can help.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:17 PM
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I tried running. Did it for maybe 3 weeks, then eventually fell off. No success. I can't stick to anything if I see no progress and it's more uncomfortable than my current situation. I only was able to tolerate weightligting for so long because pain of muscle tearing is short in the moment.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:16 PM
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I'm glad you agree with me, that I'm a loser and a failure and that ultimately I cannot change not because of all the things I tried, but because I am one of many men who cannot change even if they want to.
/r/seduction17/09/24 01:38 PM
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I have tried to have discipline in my life but DO eventually stop. I have tried for differing periods of time, up to a few months. I can't get over that. I don't want to quit, I just do. It just happens, and I can't stop it from happening. If it would have worked I wouldn't have fallen off. I could spend my life trying but ultimately that's a big waste knowing that it only is failure.
/r/seduction17/09/24 01:36 PM
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If there’s no actual useful advice, then there is no answer. I can’t be better if just told “be better.” If no one online can help, and I’ve tried other things, then i just have to accept it. I have also tried therapy since 14, never helped. I’m sorry about your early life that you needed it young. But it hasn’t helped me BECAUSE of me. That was very clear. I’ll try the podcast tomorrow if I even remember, and I have no support system. I am alone. “Being loved” doesn’t matter if no one loves you…
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:38 AM
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I don’t have access or knowledge of mushrooms. I have tried to listen, but I’m am not receiving anything I have tried based on even other elders.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:31 AM
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I’ve tried the gym and dieting many times, and yet I’m still fat. See!? Edit: If you want to downvote me for a true statement, that says more about you than me. Maybe posit how exactly I'm incorrect about my statement, rather than pretending you're right.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:30 AM
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I’ve definitely already explained to you the justification based on your answer to mine. It isn’t a choice, It’s literally I’ve tried everything and it doesn’t work.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:29 AM
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Am I going to waste my life by “not trying hard enough” when my entire life is just trying hard but without any change? I can’t pretend I can live life just constantly losing just hoping to win. That’s just insanity. I’m 25, in college, pathetic I know. I tried Anthony robins, unhelpful gimmick guy.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:26 AM
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Yes, I definitely for sure trust the word of a random redditor
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:24 AM
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I’ve tried basking in the negative emotion, doesn’t work. I know I’m ugly, so I know it is at least in part because of that. I appreciate you tried, but telling me to walk in a random direction is not helpful. Thanks either way, glad we agree I’m unhelpable.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:23 AM
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You’ll just spread it online and make fun of me. Trust me, I’m fat and ugly.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:20 AM
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I’ve tried to make the choice to have discipline, but then eventually I stop. So essentially, I can’t indefinitely maintain discipline, which essentially means I lack discipline. How exactly is that my “choice” rather than my reality? I’m not trying to be pathetic, even if I am, but what then am I supposed to do? Insanity is literally what you’re expecting I do, try the same thing over and over expecting different results. Anything else? Or do we agree I can’t be helped?
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:19 AM
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If I have a lack of discipline, that's a fact. If I'm lazy, that's a fact. If I'm afraid, that's a fact. Maybe theres also a fact that they can change, but the next fact I present is that I don't know how to change. What do I do? Then you're gonna respond with something, and I'll explain that I already tried and that it didn't work. I've played this game before, if you have something helpful let me know. But don't just lie.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:11 AM
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I care about ugliness. I care about attractiveness. And so do other people. Maybe that's shallow or selfish, but it's true. Stavvy Baby is a terrible example, because he has wealth and fame/notoriety, and I don't have that.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:09 AM
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I've already learned about CBT. That you can't control actions, just thoughts, and that recognizing thinking that creates problems to understand the behavior and motivation. But ultimately, it didn't help, as I couldn't change. I've tried "blocking and replacing" but I can't stick with it through every thought, and there is always more bad than good. It won't happen for me because again, I am broken. I could lie and say I'm not, but that doesn't change the 100 more times I again remember how bro…
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:07 AM
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I just stop going eventually. I don't know how to change that. I would go to the gym for like 60ish days, then eventually I'd be busy and not go, or be lazy and then stop. Not seeing any results also didn't help. I don't know what constitutes "easy things." I can compliment strangers. That is easy, but I don't do it naturally, I'd have to go out of my way to.
/r/seduction17/09/24 06:01 AM
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How do I change? IF the answer is "CHANGE", then it's not a matter of "can't or won't," it's just an inability to change based on inability to take a step that actually causes change. Conditions aren't fixed, but if you've tried the same suggestions endlessly and none work, I'd say it's fair to assume they will continue to not work. I agree, there is only failure until success. And if I never have success, then I understand I am just failing. I don't know how to overcome the need for immediate s…
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:58 AM
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If it's not tangible, there's no evidence it's progress. I don't know how badly I want to fix the situation. I just know I want it to be different. Clearly that's why I made the post. I started feeling awful based on the inherent lonliness and inability to find someone to love. I have been physically ugly for a long time. It has always been unfcomfortable. I have tried advice from therapists, didn't help. I have tried action to improve myself, and ultimately, nothing changed. I give up at varyin…
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:54 AM
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I wish I knew how to get confidence. But something about me is broken. I can't fix it, despite all my knowledge and attempts. The truth is that I am just one of the guys who can't change.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:50 AM
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Thanks for the analysis, but again, I have tried all the things you've stated, and they still don't work. I have tried no longer trying to attract women. I've tried to find hobbies and stop pressuring myself, but it doesn't stick. I've tried exercise as well, but hasn't helped. I don't know how to keep a catalog of myself? I know who I am and what I want to do, and I've tried writing it before. I tried to commit to change, but then I fell off, and I'm done trying when all there is is failure. No…
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:49 AM
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If the fact of the matter is that your circumstance outweigh your agency, then it is true to say you cannot control the situation. If you refuse to acknowledge what is true, then you're essentially lying.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:39 AM
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So I agree, my ugliness can't be changed. Thank you for agreeing, at least one person here is honest.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:36 AM
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I accept the cruel nature of reality, that I can never be objectively attractive. I agree with you. I say it's impossible because I have evidence it doesn't work, and no one has provided me with anything I haven't already treid and failed at multiple times. If there's a woman who is my perfect match, send her my way. But if you're just making her up, then stop lying. I am tired of losing and trying. I can't do anything more than just continue to live. I just hate that I'm destined for loneliness…
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:35 AM
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Okay, let's say I accept your premise, that it is a "lie" that I can't change my attitude. Now what? How do I change? If the answer is "just change" then if I can't do that, CAN I CHANGE? Sure it's possible in theory, but not in actuality. I discovered it was impossible to succeed, and so I accept that. Patterns are recognizable and should be acknowledged. I have evidence for what will be in the future based on the past. I tried other variables, and it didn't work. If you know how to help, then …
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:31 AM
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Yeah I totally believe you. That's definitely not made up on the spot. Even assuming it is, I'm sure he was relatively well adjusted, attractive, and naturally funny. The women also may have had kinks. So when you find out how an unattractive overweight 25 year old with low self esteem and no confidence can get a good woman to date and marry, let me know.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:27 AM
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Exactly. I am just one of the men who puts in constant effort but yield no results, except when I stop trying and explain that I cannot get results, everyone tells me it's just mentality. It's ridiculous. I wish my parents instilled "figuring it out" when I was young, as I am in my mid 20s and lost.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:24 AM
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I'm also tall. But I'm still unattractive based on my personality, inability to improve physically, etc. I can't change those things, but I'm sure that you can. Thank you for agreeing with me.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:16 AM
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How is it a self-fulfilling prophecy if I literally have a bunch of evidence that what has been will continue to be? I don't know how to get rid of "learned helplessness." I tried, but the only way is just "change your attitude," but if I could do that, I would. Thank you for admitting that if I can't change my attitude, then I am doomed. I'm sorry I let you down.
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:15 AM
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I'm 25. I hope I'm different in 20 years, but my entire life thus far has been emptiness, and inability to become disciplined. I want to improve, but my efforts all fail. I can't work on something knowing it fails consistently.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:57 AM
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I am overweight. I;ve tried the gym and dieting, and it did not help. I either got lazy and stopped going after a month or two of no results, and the diet worked until I went back to normal and I gained all the weight back and more. I tried, but I can't make any positive change previously into a permanent change. I can't dress well because dressing well is expensive, and I'm in college. I have no attractiveness in the face. I tried losing weight and again, didn't help. I am fine with socializing…
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:48 AM
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I wish it was my personality. But even if it is my personality, I can’t change what I am. I have tried to think differently, but I can’t. I promise you, I’m ugly.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:34 AM
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I am in a college that is mostly women. I literally cannot ask anyone because it's so small, and there is a risk to being permanently labeled a creep, which will make the difficulty of making any acquaintences even harder. I don't know what coach you're talking about, but he's right that some people can't ever get over approach anxiety, except I don't think I have any trauma. I am unattractive and have inability to even try to approach. No progress.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:34 AM
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I have tried, it just didn't help. And you're right, I want assurance that my inability to change or take action is not a waste of time, but a fact. I HAVE TRIED. It didn't work any time. So maybe just accept that some people can't be helped. "Just accept you can do hard things," so HOW? HOW do I do that? I want to, but despite the want, I can't or don't. You can say step forward, but I don't know how to.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:16 AM
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A new therapist every 6-15 months, from 15 until 25. It does add up. Never worked. I tried. I have no sucidal thoughts, despite the despair of recognizing my own loneliness and inability to attract anyone.
/r/seduction17/09/24 04:05 AM
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Attraction is not only looks, but it's a critical element. I can't find any woman with a kink for an overweight, depressed, and lonely guy in his 20s. I've tried, but no one wants me.
/r/seduction17/09/24 03:51 AM
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Yeah I would, except I tried multiple therapists, at least like 15, and none have helped me. Ultimately, in 5-10 years, if this doesn't change, I'm going to end up alone, and either kill myself or just chase hedonistic desire through hookers and prostitution. I don't have another way out.
/r/seduction17/09/24 03:50 AM
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I'm ugly I know. I don't know how to attract anyone. I've tried, but still fail, there is no one. Maybe, if I've taken your advice, and all you have left is to insult me, then I actually am right, and some people can't be helped? If you have nothing better, I guess I'm right...
/r/seduction17/09/24 03:49 AM
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Dude I looked up the down syndrome thing, and it looks like the only successful relationships of down syndrome are when both partners are disabled, if the woman is the one with down syndrome, or if the both partners are gay/lesbian. I don't think your example actually applies here. As for the jaw guy, I have no idea how on earth that makes sense. He can't really even speak, the attraction that occurred has to be because the woman has a disordered attraction. He's remarkably lucky.
/r/seduction17/09/24 03:47 AM
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It's not just looks, but I don't think I'm attractive at all. I wear cologne and can't change my voice. I can't believe in myself if I know that I am unattractive...
/r/seduction17/09/24 03:37 AM
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I haven't come across even one. I know that I'm unattractive, and I lack the discipline to eat well and get ripped to actually be attractive/ Plus even if I did, despite my tries, I can't ask out women. Idk if its too much fear, or not wanting to be rejected, or if I find no women to be partner material, but I feel trapped.
/r/seduction17/09/24 03:14 AM
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I think he's just unattractive, and has no way to change it. Not mentality...
/r/seduction17/09/24 03:12 AM
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You sound sad, but I'm not sure I can beat your logic. I do think there are some guys who can't attract girls no matter what, because of themselves, and that they can't change themselves if that's not who they are.
/r/seduction17/09/24 03:11 AM
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Incorrect. It isn't luck, if your odds of successfully dating a woman as an average guy is 0, just constant rejection, but an attractive man will be able to get maybe 3 or 4 out of 10 women, then it's not even comparable. If I had at least a 50-50 shot, I wouldn't complain, would shut up and enjoy.
/r/seduction13/09/24 02:17 AM
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I'm not being bitter, I'm being truthful. If I cannot be helped or saved, it only tracks that there are others like me in the world who should be able to accept that. I'm not "freely giving up," I have no other choice.
/r/seduction13/09/24 02:15 AM
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You're absolutely right, all of the advice on this reddit is useless for men who are unattractive. There's no getting past that. It's essentially being born lucky, having the capacity to discipline yourself and being born with genetics that allow you to lose/gain weight.
/r/seduction13/09/24 02:05 AM
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Don't be sorry, just accept that for some people, a life alone is the only way to live, and it is not helpful to try and encourage anyone that "anyone can do it." Because that's just a lie.
/r/seduction13/09/24 01:53 AM
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I'm not an incel in that I don't believe anyone is entitled to sex. But I do believe that some men are so unattractive that they end up alone regardless of how much they want a relationship. I am one of those for sure, as I've tried all the advice on this subreddit but nothing can help. Nothing removes how I feel about myself, how ugly I am, and how impossible it is to lose weight, be in shape, and be disciplined. So yeah, I make sure to remind people that for some, nothing can help.
/r/seduction13/09/24 01:50 AM
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Social freedom doesn't exist.
/r/seduction13/09/24 01:32 AM
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So stand like a jackass and pretend you're not nervous? What a joke.
/r/seduction13/09/24 01:31 AM
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How about just being honest with your intentions, and not entertaining women who don't reciprocate your feelings, and not even trying to pursue women who don't seem to find you attractive?
/r/seduction13/09/24 01:29 AM
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That is obvious advice, but not possible for men who aren't born with any attractiveness.
/r/seduction13/09/24 01:23 AM
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It can, but don't count on it for guarantee of interest.
/r/seduction12/09/24 03:53 AM
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That's a fair point. How about "don't listen to advice on this subreddit that promises the impossible on flimsy and false statements, rather than appealing to basic logic."
/r/seduction12/09/24 03:48 AM
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The mods here just delete things that challenge the falsehoods of the subreddit.
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:51 AM
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Don't listen to any advice on this subreddit, they're all either lying or 10/10s. Most pickup artists are scammers that want your money, it makes more the longer you subscribe to them. Just focus on your aesthetics, go to the gym and starve yourself if you're overweight, or eat a bunch and work out if you're scrawny. Then just ask attractive women out, and expect either rejection or success. Or just bypass it all and pay for sex. It's not a good thing morally to do but it will satisfy your itch …
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:42 AM
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I think the easiest pussy is just when you pay for it.
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:38 AM
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Maybe give better advice, like "pursue a woman who seems to find you attractive."
/r/seduction12/09/24 02:28 AM
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No I think it makes sense, some people can't become attractive, despite advice and trying. This dude is just one of them. Some people can't get over the fear of rejection, and can only overthink. I'm one as well.
/r/seduction10/09/24 04:31 PM
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Could have been said better, but fair enough
/r/seduction10/09/24 04:29 PM
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