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I don't personally subscribe to RP philosophy, and I don't agree with most of it. I was just clicking through sorted by "new" when I stumbled on your post. That said, I've never heard "women's love is inferior" being a rational talking point by the RP crowd, other than a pseudo-intellectual excuse for anger. https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/wiki/index If anything, it sounds like the opposite to me. The RP worldview is that men ultimately want sex and women commitment, and relationships are …
/r/RedPillWomen24/11/20 07:50 PM
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If it has nothing to do with your own experience, where have you "noticed this?" Are you basing this off of other people's bad relationships? I don't know that there's any reason to go around in circles on this. My point is that you're basing this broad stroke bias on some kind of anecdotal experience. The least you could do is present a half-baked reasoning as to why this might be true. Still wouldn't make it true, but at least you'd show you were thinking about it and not just making stuff up.…
/r/RedPillWomen24/11/20 07:02 PM
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Do you have any reason to think this, other than "I was in a bad relationship?" In my experience, being willing to put your life on the line for someone you love is a combination of a certain personality and finding someone you feel is worthy of that. It isn't a sexed dynamic.
/r/RedPillWomen24/11/20 06:20 PM
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Your post is very contradictory. You seem convinced that men can love unconditionally, yet women are slaves to their nature? Why would you think men could escape biological programming, but women couldn't? Regardless of how you think humanity came to be, we've all been here for the same amount of time. The truth is a bit of both--people are driven by their instincts, but there are also plenty of examples of unconditional love. Whether it's really unconditional, or just based on a benevolent need…
/r/RedPillWomen24/11/20 03:57 PM
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So you think there's some kind of great female conspiracy to keep men in their proper category, almost like the caste system? Women not only care about what incels are doing, but they have a vested interest in keeping them down. Incels have to stay incels and die sexless and lonely, and don't your dare transcend your social category to become attractive, because women only want men who are somehow "proper" sexy, and not "once weren't sexy?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 01:44 AM
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Women want men to die sexless but also want to get "pumped and dumped?" Hm...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 07:55 PM
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Testosterone dramatically increases sex drive. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 04:10 PM
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Most incels seem to hate on, or at least heavily objectify women. You think women actually want men to be like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 04:05 PM
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I haven't watched the videos yet, but yes, I agree that men do suffer, and just like "women's rights are human rights," so are men's rights. I don't disagree with you on that at all. My intent wasn't to diminish male suffering, or even to argue women have it worse. Men have had atrocious suffering, particularly in wars. My point was just that I don't think being highly desired sex objects, or having a womb that creates a child is an advantage. Historically, being physically weaker and a desired …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:50 PM
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This is such a weird question. I would think this would be common knowledge...? Sources: The Bible and Quran Lots and lots of examples in the Wikipedia article on women's rights, including male guardianship, right to education, child marriage, legal rights to own property, rights to sexual autonomy, religious leadership, inheritance, etc. Some historical cultures were way more egalitarian than others, but in general women's sex has been a commodity to be owned, controlled, traded, and so on, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:41 PM
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Testosterone isn't an excuse for any kind of bad behavior at all, but you more than likely have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not remotely a redpiller. Just that unless you've experienced the strength differential and sexual motivation of testosterone, you're comparing your lived experience against what you imagine, which is probably quite a bit short of how it really is. To your point, men can and do need to control themselves, and there are things like masturbation, sports, hobbies, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:20 PM
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women just inherently have more value than men [...] There is a saying that goes sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive Ironically, through most of history, this has resulted in women being treated like property. "You're so valuable as a breeding/sex machine, you can't do anything else."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:15 PM
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Amping up everyone's sex drives could work if you also lowered inhibition and made free sex more socially acceptable. We'd basically be bonobos, which seems to work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:07 PM
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Various studies have been done on the subjective attractiveness of people who actually pair up, and they're usually pretty similar. Women's standards are pretty much the same as men's standards--they just have to take a more defensive stance in the dating world to balance out the onslaught of men coming on to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:03 PM
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Men actually can, and do go their own way, and ironically, this is a very good way to attract a mate. It is something of a power play, but it's an unintentional one. The side affect of being your own person is that you develop confidence, self-sufficiency, you become more interesting, often healthier, etc., which are all the things that make you more attractive as relationship material. You hit the nail on the head re MGTOW, though. The problem as so many people have pointed out is that MGTOW gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:58 PM
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You really don't get the difference? He was already in the child's life, raising this girl as his own daughter.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/07/20 12:25 AM
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He could separate from the woman and potentially spend time with the little girl to provide some sort of transition and consistency in her life and not fuck her up for life. And, maybe he will. Maybe he'll realize that the little girl that he's raised as his daughter is not her mother, and do what he can to help her get some kind of loving transition through this. And, maybe the mom will get all bitter and hateful and mess that up too, so maybe he won't even have that option. You're right that i…
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/20 06:25 PM
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You're right that it's "not his fault," but that has no impact on his relationship or the well being of the little girl. It's not about fault. It would be reasonable for him to slowly back away from the relationship with the little girl over a period of time, and maybe this woman will force that (to the detriment of her own child) but if it's 1 month and he chooses a hard end to the relationship, that's a problem. It's a problem for what it says about the basis of his relationship with the littl…
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/20 06:15 PM
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No, that's not the same logic. He's already fathered this child since birth, for three years. Psychologically, these are three of the most formative years of her life.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/20 05:59 PM
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What do laws even have to do with this? At least from what we hear in the video he's basically disowning the little girl. That's not a legal matter; it's a moral decision. I get that he's pissed at the woman--I'd be pissed too. Any parenting worthy of calling a "parent" isn't a genetic obligation, but a choice. It's messed up to take on a father role to a little girl for three years and then just up and end that. Three year olds are very aware of what's going on. This is likely to cause lasting …
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/20 05:58 PM
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Had to sort by controversial in the hopes that somebody pointed this out. This video is fucked up and the people celebrating it are kind of missing that. Genetics are not what make a good parent. According to the video the little girl is 3 years old and it sounds like he's been in her life since birth. He's going to disown her and throw her out like that? I really hope that's not the case... if it is, that's wrong.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/20 05:54 PM
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Did you consider that the reason it was asked could be just to figure out how people prioritize looks vs personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:27 PM
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I completely agree with two separate pieces coming together as a whole. In order to have something of your own to bring into a relationship, you have to be able to stand on your own. Inter-dependency is still dependency. Two people who are self-sufficient can certainly have different things to offer, though. ​ You are also stretching here. Just because men don’t value workplace competency as much doesn’t mean that they are actively looking for someone who has no discernible skills. Stretching ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 03:45 PM
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This "Ugly girls are nicer" lie is the biggest one pushed on to guys. Except that in this hypothetically, it's literally defined right into the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:28 PM
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Abusive relationships occur around well understood psychological dynamics. You might want to read up on it before you (incorrectly) assume being abused is an actual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:22 PM
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"High quality" men value confidence, competence, and self-sufficiency too. I would actually go as far as to say, the highest quality partners value these things more. If you're self-sufficient and competent yourself, what purpose would it serve to have a partner who isn't that way, other than to appease a core fear or stroke some fragility in your ego?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:17 PM
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Worthless to OP. OP definitely doesn't speak for all men, or even most men. Personally, I'm self-sufficient, and I significantly value self-sufficiency in a partner. I don't want to be caring for a woman-child, even if she is physically attractive. Many things that provide self-sufficiency also provide self-worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:12 PM
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You made an entire post to share your personal preferences in women, and tagged it with CMV? Not sure how I could change your view when the core arguments are your personal preferences, but for me personally interesting, intelligent, and funny are right up there at the top of the list. I don't care whether she's successful or not, but self-sufficiency and personal initiative are important to me, which more often than not lead to a fulfilling (successful) career. People, their personalities, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:02 PM
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Taking care of your body, working on self-confidence, and becoming competent in your trade provide about the best return on investment of anything you can do in life. You might be surprised that if you make sufficient investment in yourself, not only can you be fulfilled in and of yourself, but you inherently become more desirable. You also might realize that women aren't disgusting used up messes too... which will certainly help your with getting with any girl who also don't have the self-worth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 08:43 PM
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I'm 45, and I have a job. The realization that your job title, possessions, relationships, etc don't ultimately satisfy is not "red pill." Most people get some sense of this in their early life, but it doesn't really hit until they get sufficiently disillusioned, or especially if something happens to cause the bottom to drop out, and then plummet into a mid life crisis of sorts. It doesn't have to happen in actual mid life, but most people won't feel disillusioned with the unfulfilling goals unt…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 03:40 AM
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Part of this is mostly irrefutable, at least as far as sociology can be considered "fact." There are pretty solid stats on how people are less likely to buy a house or have kids because of decreased buying power for average starting salary and increased college debt. That said, I'm not sure I've ever read anything about it decreasing relationships in general, nor do I see any reason people would have less desire for a relationship. Marriage, sure, but not relationships. I don't know how I could …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 02:59 AM
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The average man's life doesn't revolve around video games and weed. Plenty of people work on improving themselves. RP has no particular edge on wanting to be a better version of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 02:44 AM
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You didn't even consider high school nerds growing into strong, desirable men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 02:39 AM
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If all the dudes are just MGTOWing off into the sunset, why are all the red pill communities teeming with rage? Like, if they're actually content, why even gather?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:22 AM
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In the US, average height is around 5'4" to 5'5". These studies don't usually separate out ethnicity, so you could probably expect this to skew a bit either direction. Runway models are also usually unusually thin overall, which is different than curves with a flat stomach. "Fashion model" is a broad term, though--if you start going into other types of fashion modeling, body types change. I'm not at all saying a tall woman can't be extremely attractive. I'm 6'3" and I'm always struck by women cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:28 PM
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Well... technically it is that women confuse normal conversation with a man with harassment. Could it be that normal male conversation in some of these contexts is sexually insulting and degrading to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:00 PM
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Grass is greener? Some women seem to live in a naive bubble of pampering and service, but plenty of attractive women have the same struggles as everyone else. If you read up on the childhoods of attractive actresses and exclude those who come from successful acting families (already unusually privileged), the remaining ones are a pretty mixed bag. Quite a few were awkward kids who had trouble fitting in and a disproportionate number of girls suffered unwanted sexual attraction or even assault at…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 03:58 PM
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tall isn’t conventionally attractive? For women, no. Most tall women describe feeling very gangly and awkward until they found a way to come into their own. Medium height with curves is more conventionally attractive. The beach body look.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 03:46 PM
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Tall men tend to be stronger As an avid cyclist our power to weight ratio sucks, though :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:35 PM
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Not disagreeing with the numbers, but all of the IQ tests I've taken were weighted heavily towards spatial manipulation and visualization. That works for me, because I'm naturally a spatial/visual thinker, but some people are intelligent and they're terrible at those types of tasks. Are they dumb, or below average because of this? Maybe, but not necessarily. I still think there a lot of people have experiences that convince them that they're not smart and then internalize that and base their liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 08:03 PM
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I couldn't date someone who lacked intelligence. People have different ways of problem solving, different interests, and different talents, so there's a lot of different ways a person can be intelligent. My wife doesn't have the same type of intelligence I do, and that's fine... it's even good. It's complimentary. I just couldn't be with someone who didn't have their own expression of intelligence, though. In other words, STEM Jane could maybe excel in verbal/literary skills, or artistic express…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 05:38 PM
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/r/mgtow2 is A LOT better than MGTOW. It still has it's share of toxicity, but if you keep your focus on building a healthy sense of self, you can find a lot of good stuff in there. /r/maleempowerment is decent. MRA subs in general are all about hating on women, which is futile, misdirected, and self-destructive. maleempowerment (mostly) turns the focus on personal empowerment, which is where your real freedom will come from. More importantly, I would just recommend joining hobby/interest subs. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 05:22 PM
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Unless we're blessed with the right personality and a very good/empowering childhood, we all start out into young adulthood with very way too little self-worth. We seek validation from others and settle for less than we deserve. We don't even know what we deserve--we think less of ourselves than we should, and we erroneously settle for what we think we're worth. Those of us who are naturally more quiet and docile position ourselves to be victimized by life and walked on by others, and those of u…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 05:12 PM
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I don't know what the "correct" number should be With a large enough pool of participants, it should be 4. Anything above or below that is showing that people generally perceive themselves higher or lower than they really are. Obviously, this study didn't have a very large group of people, but still. And, agreed--the "conclusions" from this study are very misleading. From the actual data, it looks like college aged people have a self-image/self-esteem problem, which is worse for women. This isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 03:38 PM
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"Entitled" is a strange choice of words (not your word choice, but /u/OverEasyFetus). From a physiological standpoint, sex (procreation) is actually a core human desire. A person may not be "entitled" to sex, but it would be factually correct to describe it as a need. Of course, you won't die without it, but dying is hardly the only measure of needs. This stuff is well documented.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:25 PM
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Important life lesson: Everybody is replaceable. "Indispensable" people are replaced every day. Conduct your life accordingly.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/12/19 02:23 AM
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No. You're not any different than other men. Men didn't just start masterbating at the dawn of Internet porn. People have always been masterbating to there imaginations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 11:12 AM
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What are you basing that on? There've been quite a few studies that show people generally prefer long term relationships with those they perceive to be at a similar attractiveness level, e.g. a woman who's a 6 would generally prefer to pair up in the 5-7 range. IIRC, The Science of Sex Appeal documentary demonstrated some studies on this. Beyond that, there are a lot of happily coupled people who aren't 10/10 or 0/10. Do you just think all relationships are unhappy? Maybe if a woman finds the ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 01:04 AM
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Everyone looks for "high value" mates, but, unsurprisingly, people have different values.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 07:00 PM
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Did you even click on the link I included Nope. It wasn't there when you posted your comment. Benefit of the doubt this was a quick ninja edit, which is fine... I do the same sometimes, but I read it before you did the edit. I found the link I provided through Google. I get the paywall too now--not sure where that came from; it wasn't there the first time. That's fine, though--there's no point in going back in forth on this. I haven't read all your links, but if you've researched it and there ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 06:58 PM
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/275135/preferred-tv-show-types-in-the-us-by-gender/ TV audiences unsurprisingly vary by genre, but TV shows are do not have "mostly women watching." Did you even bother looking into it? Realistically, ratings win, and most TV is cast to draw the largest audience possible. I suspect the reason some shows cast average men and a token hot woman is that men are naturally more visual and sexual, whereas women will watch primarily for other reasons. Same reason hot …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 05:55 PM
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Most shows are entirely cast for male audiences. Same for Penny in Big Bang Theory. There are some counter examples (Dharma and Greg?), but still, most television is made primarily for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 04:50 PM
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"Conventionally attractive" as in average, not off-the-charts, right? There are a ton of characters in TV who are normal-attractive and take good care of themselves. There are tons of women in my town who are normal-attractive too. I'm sitting in a Starbucks right now, and there are several men and women in here who are normal-attractive. I think you're creating a false dichotomy between the basement-dwelling creep and the Chippendales dancer--there's a whole spectrum of perfectly attractive guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 04:42 PM
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I'm 45. I lost my virginity to a couple of prostitutes when I was 18. The sex wasn't very good, but it certainly didn't scar me in any way. I really don't think it changed the course of my life at all.
/r/MGTOW211/11/19 03:59 AM
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That's an extensive theory, but really it's mostly that the Internet didn't become a thing until the mid 90s. Before then, if you wanted an interest group you had to do it via word of mouth. The internet really changed everything.
/r/MGTOW209/11/19 12:45 AM
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In my experience, you attract people (men and women) by being interesting. In other words, spending less time fawning over other people and more time just being yourself.
/r/MGTOW209/11/19 12:42 AM
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I know what sub we're in, but this isn't just a relationship dynamic. This is a "mid-life crisis," which is a brutal disillusionment that can happen at just about any age. For me, it felt like I was told I was running a race, but when I got to the "end," there was no finish line, and then when I looked back there was no race at all. The entire goal was a farce. It's the experience of having to shift from societal goals to your own goals, and the trauma of the fact that you've probably shaped you…
/r/MGTOW204/11/19 08:17 PM
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The point of MGTOW before it got all distorted, or at least where I think the value is, is in investing in yourself. Figure out what's really important to you. Not what fulfills some immediate urge for temporary gratification, but the things that you actually value, and make you feel fulfilled. This might not even be something you know right now--figuring out what you want out of life is hard. When have you felt happiest? When have you felt proudest of yourself? When have you felt fulfilled? Wha…
/r/MGTOW204/11/19 08:04 PM
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This is the most typical behavior you can see in females. Fuck chad 24/7 but keep a stock of beta orbiters with good jobs around so they can settle down with betabux when chad no longer wants them. My reply: When did MGTOW become an incel apologist sub? Forget "the female" and go your own way already. Banned for espousing the supposed philosophy of the sub. Also, the quoted comment has 70-something upvotes.
/r/MGTOW204/11/19 06:24 PM
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So do your boys a favor and tell them to man the fuck up and stop crying! I should clarify that I am NOT saying for men to bottle up their emotions. Which one? Are you telling people to man up and stop their crying, or are you asking to be accepted for your own emotional expression? These are two entirely different things. If it's the latter, okay--I agree. If it's the former, just, no. Attitudes like this have fucked up generations of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 11:15 PM
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OP wasn't describing economic success--he was describing contribution to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 04:55 PM
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That was much more the case in factory work days than it is now. I've seen all the charts people are posting about how many applications they had to put in before they landed their first job, which sucks, but they're still landing a job in a career with an actual education and skill. Being a "good cog" with an education, in a white collar job, with benefits and career growth potential is a pretty first world problem. Yeah, money is probably extremely tight, and the housing market in major metro …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 04:53 PM
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A lot of that pursuit for men can be attributed towards trying to win women/provide for their families. I don't know if it'll do anything to change your view, but this statement I quoted is almost certainly inaccurate. I teach psychology, specifically personality and desire, and I don't have data to back up my opinion either, but there are plenty of powerful motivations that have nothing to do with women and families. I'm married, but my core desires are what inspire me to create and further soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 04:44 PM
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This is politically incorrect, but it's also the correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 04:46 AM
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Why would it change? Do you know of men who won't have sex because of the risk of pregnancy? Condom sales will suffer, and it might impact how many women use birth control... *shrug*
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:01 AM
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As abysmal as those statistics are, I don't think you're looking at them right. Your "dating market" isn't the statistical average--it's the subset you'd actually be dating. How old are you? What activities do you enjoy? Not really asking you, but those are key questions for sorting out whether your dating market actually averages out to 5'4" and 171lbs. If you're in your teens or 20s then your dating market is likely a lot thinner than that. Even the stats support this, but, unfortunately, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 04:55 AM
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Or course. We have the exact same taste in music, movies, and food. We share the same hobbies, work in the same career, participate in the same sports, same sexual desire, and have the same cooky theories on everything. The only downside is that we both have the same shortcomings--there would really be no pressure at all to become a better version of ourselves. This is no small thing, but at least we could commiserate in this shortcoming of our relationship together.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 05:11 PM
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I think there are different things going on here. For men, for a relationship, I agree that most guys wouldn't want a bored, uninterested partner. I certainly wouldn't. Enthusiasm and passion in bed are a reflection of desire and intimacy--if your partner is uninterested in bed, are they really all that into you? Pretty sure this goes for *most* people of both sexes. That said, that doesn't mean those same men, if unattached, wouldn't have sex with an unenthusiastic, attractive woman. Not to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 07:16 PM
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So what? It was your question... *shrug* IIRC, you asked why a larger chest is attractive to men, providing hips and estrogen as an example. Not saying that some men don't value a larger chest, but I don't think it's as biologically universal as other things with a more direct fertility indicator. Desmond Morris talks about it in the Naked Ape series, though, so if you want some theories on it you might find the series interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 12:08 AM
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Yeah, for sure. A lot of the more universal standards can probably be reduced to fertility indicators. I don't think breasts are one of those, though. There've been too many time periods and cultures where breasts weren't sexualized.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 12:01 AM
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Yeah--Lance performed perfectly well in the Tour de France too. There was the doping, but IIRC, that wasn't T related. It's probably like other parts of our body where if we lose a gland other ones step up and produce more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:55 PM
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Like Chinese boading balls?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:58 PM
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If I only had one, I'd be a lot more worried about testosterone production (strength, energy, overall quality of life) than aesthetics. That and balance--don't want to tip over all of a sudden.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:57 PM
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My wife uses "spicy" to indicate "has a lot of spices" (complex flavor profile), which sounds weird to me, but TBF, there really isn't another word for that. She also uses it in the heat way too, but it's usually obvious what she's saying from context. Either way, I can't imagine parsley as "spicy"... :/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:55 PM
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Prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:50 PM
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A lot of it is cultural. The ideal women's figure and ideal breast size have varied quite a bit over time. IIRC, Desmond Morris had some ideas on breast size, I think relating to nursing and rearing young, but if you look at historical and cross-cultural pictures of beauty you can see that there's a heck of a lot more to it then hormones/reproduction/child rearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:48 PM
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Why would someone not value things which can impact them positively or negatively? Because the general doesn't define the specific, correlation is not causation, etc. Taking divorce rate as an example, assuming there is a correlation, why do these people have a higher divorce rate? Is it caused by promiscuity, or is there another underlying cause of both? Is there overlap in this root cause, e.g. some subset of people who have this same issue and risk of divorce, but are less promiscuous? To wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:44 PM
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People care about things which are meaningful or important to them. Therefore not caring about n-count implicitly says that n-count is meaningless [to them]. This would make these two statements comparable, which I think makes it more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 08:28 PM
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It's not that it says nothing about the person, but that it more often than not doesn't say what the red/black pill ideology claims it does. There are a wide variety of reasons for sexual activity and naively simplifying it into nat geo animal behavioral dynamics ignores most real world scenarios. Human psychology and culture is a lot more varied and complex than that. Additionally, those reasons, whatever they, are only relevant when you're in a relationship with somebody, and even then, only l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 07:58 PM
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I made the original point. I said something that was valid and you "fixed it" for me and in doing so lost the point of what I was saying. We're both talking about the same comment. ​ Subjective actions are necessary in life and society. Sure. I didn't say we shouldn't exact justice. I simply called out the "who don't deserve it" remark. Have you ever seen a baby born who deserves a fucked up life? If not, then at what point in their life do they start deserving it? I get that "they deserve it" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 12:49 AM
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My original point was that you can justify just about anything if you really want to. Justification itself is subjective. People justify a lot of egregious behavior. You basically said that it's okay to do bad things to people who deserve it. Which ones are the ones that deserve it, and why does that make it okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 11:00 PM
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A lot of people would put vengeance and "justice" in that category too, and that's where it becomes a very slippery slope. Even self-defense can be an excuse, but I agree with you that actual self-defense is entirely justifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 10:44 PM
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Or, first?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:51 PM
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Most men won't kill in combat even when it's sanctioned and ordered that they do so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killology#The_problem_of_non-_or_mis-firing_soldiers Most (many?) people who are pro-choice don't believe an early term fetus is a life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_debate#Personhood ​ So, to your questions--no, I don't think so. At least some evidence shows that empathy transcends the rules of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:51 PM
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I think given a few generations of this world you're describing it wouldn't even be rape. Sexual dynamics would be by force and both men and women would see that as the normal dynamic. Since we're going a bit more animal kingdom here, and "fidelity" would no longer be within her control, I expect men would have to fight off other men too.... both to acquire a mate and defend the mate they have. As for if it would happen in the world you're describing, my theory is that survival of the species wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:44 PM
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If you're the type of person who does bad things to people, then... FTFY. The funny thing about people who do and don't deserve it is it's entirely subjective. Most people have empathy, and many of them will still hurt people. They do it through cognitive distortions where they convince themselves their victim asked for it or wanted it. Even psychopaths do this, who ironically are the only ones who shouldn't need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 04:36 PM
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Monks?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:59 AM
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A lot of the most influential women in history act more like how society expects men to act. Maybe the problem is that the "male ideal" doesn't belong exclusively to men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:59 AM
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Interesting topic. Most of the strong women I can think of exhibit traits that are more often attributed to masculinity, like assertiveness, confidence, courage, and independence. Wikipedia lists gentleness, empathy, humility, and sensitivity, which I think is a pretty good list. My wife is a therapist and she's very empathetic. My grandmother worked hard in her community, helping people and caring for those who needed it, and she really embodied these traits as well. Interestingly both women I …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:55 AM
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Divorce rates are down significantly over the last 30 years, and the median age of marriage is creeping up, which might be a reason for the lowering divorce rates. Like you said, women are more independent (higher education, etc), which offers more stability and more opportunity for both people. What happens to these guys? The interesting thing about looking at marriage statistics is that, excluding gay marriage, the stats are guaranteed to apply equally to men and women. What happens to the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 02:15 AM
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No worries... I didn't mean to imply you were being deceptive. I know what it's like creating a discussion-oriented thread and trying to keep up with everyone. I'll sort by Q&A and read up on your other replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:53 PM
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Understand. Do you now? You quoted the less relevant, concession part of what I said. I know I'm late to the conversation and others have already said the same, but it's a clear implication of infidelity. Distrust is as much an assault on intimacy as disloyalty. Undue suspicious destroys relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:28 PM
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Humidity is gross. San Diego has better weather than Michigan. West is best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:25 PM
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Men are typically a lot hornier than women. If you flip it around, and she needs to get off more than you, would you be okay with her rubbing one out between sessions with you? Would you be okay with her watching a video of classic "Chad" and rubbing one out while imagining being held down and filled to capacity with his thick throbbing thundercock? You know, not as cheating, but just an impersonal way to get off...? *edit fixed type-o
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:23 PM
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Are you a girl? Do men shave their forearms?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:11 PM
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You should really work on that. Seriously. Weak people are damaged, and damaged people hurt people. If you don't do something, it doesn't bode well for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:09 PM
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You'd think he'd take pride in seeing her hair in every pic she posted after that... *shrug*
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:07 PM
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So, you're dating my ex. Godspeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:03 PM
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I also don't understand how recognizing that it's possible, even if highly improbable, that someone else may be the father is so insulting. You don't understand or you don't agree? If you're exclusive, there would be no reason to doubt whatsoever. A paternity test implies the possibility of infidelity, no matter how subtle the insinuation. Understandably, people who are loyal/faithful/trustworthy don't like being accused of being disloyal/unfaithful/untrustworthy. I guess I can understand the ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 10:57 PM
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Vulnerability is necessary to build a deep, authenticate relationship, but like others have said, don't dump the burden of your baggage on your SO. It's important for intimacy that you're open, but it's also necessary that you own your own struggles and healing. I hope that distinction makes sense. Be authentic about your struggles, but don't expect that your relationship will fix them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:05 PM
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Did you completely ignore what I said? People are promiscuous for all kinds of different reasons. This blanket statement view you have that "men want sex; women want relationship" simply isn't true. It has some truth to it, but it's just naive enough to be inaccurate in most real world scenarios. If her primary goal is relationship, why is she fucking around? Even if counterproductive, we all act to meet needs, so what need is this targeting? I'm really interested in your answer to this question…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 04:33 PM
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Yeah--I get what you're saying, and I agree. I also get OP's perspective. I don't agree with the underlying worldview, but I get it, and I get why it hurts. I have my own version of it that's close enough that I get OP's perception and pain. I'm in my 40s now and I've been in more than one serious long-term relationship, which I think changes your perception on those sorts of things. You eventually learn that relationships and individual experience is way more complicated than you thought, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 08:14 PM
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Where did I say someone has to be a virgin? You didn't. I didn't mean to suggest that you were saying this--it's a common narrative that I just happened to read in a couple other comments. Why would a man want to be with a woman who needs to drive 23 cars to figure out what she likes when he's only had to drive 5? I can think of a whole host of reasons, not the least of which is simply that they're highly compatible and he loves her. Who knows why her number happens to be 23--people have a varie…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 07:56 PM
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Women aren't aliens. People "fuck around" for a variety of reasons. Money (prostitution), psychological reasons (casual sex to pacify pain or attachment difficulties), or it could be a series of short-term relationships, in an attempt to find the right person. If a man doesn't need to protect the sanctity of his cock, there's no reason a woman should have to protect the purity of her vag--sex is a pretty common part of short to mid-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 07:36 PM
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It's a crude analogy, but do you need to drive every car out there to find a car that you really love? Extending the analogy, it does help if you've driven something other than your current car, which makes the "she has to be a virgin" narrative seem a little ridiculous. That fact that she's been with other people and you're her favorite is a compliment, not an attack on your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 07:29 PM
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Imagine that you dated a girl, and had sex. She was hot AF, but shallow, crazy, boring, or whatever other personality trait was a deal breaker for you. So you break up and try (and fail) again. That happens a few times until you find someone you really, authentically like--someone you can see spending your life with and maybe raising kids with. They enrich your life. This is the girl you've been waiting for. Should she feel inferior to your previous partners... the ones you rejected because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 06:50 PM
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You can not be a virgin and still not be into casual sex. It's not black and white like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 06:39 PM
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An alternative perspective is that she's tried a lot of options and you're the best. It's funny that the narrative is "she settled for the beta" when winning out over all the other mating options is alpha as f.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 06:36 PM
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I thought Jody was a chick.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 11:20 PM
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Cock boy
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 11:17 PM
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The two aren't entirely separable--I don't think you can be 100% (10/10) attracted to a person in one particular dimension without that altering the way you see them as a whole. Attraction isn't as modular as that. For someone to be a 10/10, I'd have to be attracted to them, which means however they look is entirely attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 04:05 AM
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Except for designated debate subs, most of reddit is an echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:54 PM
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People retiring from a franchise aren't necessarily "fired." I mean, sometimes they are, but as long as we get new Bond movies, all of the characters will change out in time. If the change is net-positive and a good fit for the role, what's the problem?
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 03:42 AM
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How do you have a Netflix account with ads? ... or was this shown somewhere else, like an ad for Netflix on some other service?
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 12:53 AM
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Since it had subs, I watched for sound for most of the video. I have to say, I was surprised by his look that he wasn't British. On a more relevant note, my wife is a stronger proponent of this than I am. Took me a while to come around to her perspective that marriage is an expression of love and commitment, not a legal contract.
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 02:22 PM
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