Ravulous Archive

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2	FINESSED. From my point of view Peterson does harm, to reiterate this study on the alt-right shows the harm that personalities like him lead to. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.08313.pdf Part of the problem is YouTube is actively trying to radicalize you. Peterson and his community accelerate this process https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/how-youtube-became-a-perpetual-nazi-46259210/ Understand I deal with people that have experienced consequences for falling deep into rea…	/r/PussyPassDenied	07/03/21 01:09 AM
1	FINESSED. Would you mind briefly touching on what those beliefs are? So I can have an idea what portions you are referring too? Edit: if these are personal feel free to private message me!	/r/PussyPassDenied	07/03/21 12:47 AM
1	FINESSED. I’m glad he gives you benefit! Let’s try this from another angle. Do you think you would get the same benefit as you do with Peterson as you would with another self help personality? If the answer is yes then I don’t think it’s a good enough reason to listen to Peterson. If the answer is no, why? What is it about Peterson’s message that you believe is unique or brings you the most clarity?	/r/PussyPassDenied	07/03/21 12:10 AM
1	FINESSED. I wouldn’t compare Jordan’s work to medicine, I would compare it to a lemonade brand. You don’t have to drink his brand of lemonade. I can demonstrate that Peterson’s work causes harm on a measurable scale. Enjoy this study which is really just a collection of experiences if you think about it. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.08313.pdf Peterson is brought up specifically.	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 11:38 PM
1	FINESSED. Btw I want to thank you for discussing this stuff in good faith. From my point of view there is no “winning” in this discussion. I’m only trying to come to the truth with you. If I’m wrong on something I would love to be shown new information so I can better inform my opinion. To summarize my thoughts is this: Self help is great, the person you consume it from is important. Peterson has enough problematic material in conjunction with the good stuff that it is a potential minefield for radicaliza…	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 06:18 PM
0	FINESSED. Sure thing! Enjoy this study discussing the alt-right pipeline. As I said above Jordan is at the top of this pipeline. You could call him “alt-lite.” https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.08313.pdf Edit: Peterson is considered part of the intellectual dark web, not the same as alt-lite, my bad on that part.	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 05:17 PM
1	FINESSED. I think my analogy is sound, let me explain. You don’t need lemonade to survive, you don’t need Peterson brand self help to survive. 1 in 10 is hyperbolic sure, would you feel better if it was 1 in 100? Maybe 1 out of 2000? We can debate those numbers but there is a clear link between Peterson content and the alt-right. Peterson content is tainted food. 90% is fine, that little extra can have some disastrous consequences.	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 05:01 PM
1	FINESSED. Imagine I see lemonade. 1 out of every 10 cups I sell kills someone. Should I stop selling lemonade? Should I adjust my recipe? I think being able to adjust your product so it is less harmful is something you should always strive for. We can’t control crazy but we can do our best to guide it. Consider 8chan and 4chan. 4chan is 8x the size and hasn’t had nearly as many mass murders as 8chan. This is because 4chan has enough moderation to prevent the worst of it. I think Peterson should adjust his…	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 04:54 PM
1	FINESSED. I believe Peterson’s “overwhelming good” can be accomplished by following any self help personality. If that is the case why risk the potential poison of his other messaging? Let’s say I sell lemonade. 1 out of every 10 cups I sell kills someone. Should I continue selling lemonade? Maybe I should adjust my recipe? I’m comfortable saying that 90% of the people I deal with have a history of consuming Peterson content.	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 04:48 PM
1	FINESSED. I’ve been listening to Jordan for years, I work with people that have been negatively effected by the alt-right, and are trying to get out. I may very well be a zebra farmer. When I hear hooves I assume zebra when more often that not it is a horse. I understand you may get something positive out of his message, I think that is great! But we have to accept that some people will take the message in the worst way possible. If that is the case why include it in your messaging without fact? By fact I…	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 04:33 PM
2	FINESSED. If you listen to that podcast let me know what ya think! Feel free to private message me. See ya around this beautiful wet rock :D	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 04:04 PM
2	FINESSED. You may see it that way, totally valid, but we have to accept that some people will take it the worst possible way. Why include it in your messaging? I don’t have a problem with the self help genre in general, I just think you have a responsibility to your users. If I had a channel and knew I was creating alt-right minded individuals I would adjust my message. The podcast does a good job explaining that Peterson is smart enough to know better. He understands that the inflammatory parts of his me…	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 03:51 PM
1	FINESSED. Not the person that responded but: It’s well known Peterson is a personality that sits at the top of the alt-right pipeline. I would say around 90% of his content is fine. The problem comes from his opinion, without fact, that men represent order and women represent chaos. Most people would ignore that part of his doctrine, for those that don’t it can be a slippery slope into other dangerous chauvinist ideologies. If you would like to learn more about the fair criticisms of Peterson you can list…	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 03:38 PM
1	FINESSED. It’s well known Peterson is a personality that sits at the top of the alt-right pipeline. I would say around 90% of his content is fine. The problem comes from his opinion, without fact, that men represent order and women represent chaos. Most people would ignore that part of his doctrine, for those that don’t it can be a slippery slope into other dangerous chauvinist ideologies. If you would like to learn more about the fair criticisms of Peterson you can listen to this. The first part is histo…	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 03:36 PM
5	FINESSED. It’s well known Peterson is a personality that sits at the top of the alt-right pipeline. I would say around 90% of his content is fine. The problem comes from his opinion, without fact, that men represent order and women represent chaos. Most people would ignore that part of his doctrine, for those that don’t it can be a slippery slope into other dangerous chauvinist ideologies. If you would like to learn more about the fair criticisms of Peterson you can listen to this. The first part is histo…	/r/PussyPassDenied	06/03/21 03:36 PM