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Mainstream is doing to blackpill what it did to feminism but worse. Yeah the boys happy that (insert random word) + mogging or maxxing has become everyday vernacular now only to see it's been watered down to the point where people talk about guys mogging when they would be considered "subhuman" in BP canon. Pretty soon it's all just going to mean nothing like liberals talking about how some birdfaced mouthpiece is mogging Clav just bc they don't like Clav's views or that grandma is hobby-maxxing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:47 PM
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I don't doubt women's looks standards have gone up or that they're often coming from an entitled place but damn a lot of dudes simply have no idea what looks good and we're not talking about male vs female gaze type shit. Our fat degenerate culture literally spawning armies of hard-coping NPC chubs talkin about anything under 180 lbs being "victim weight" lollll as if that isn't just straight up fat for 99% of men. Downvotes only proving how widespread this delusion and dysmorphia is. If you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:36 PM
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Not logical though since you missed the glaring reference in my OP about women blaming men, so you later thought me continuing that train of thought was "out of left field" and "egregious". I thought autists were supposed to pick up on stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:16 AM
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Hey, as long as you think women complaining about misogyny is victimization that's cool too. It didn't come from left field since mentioning blaming men and society was part of my original comment right from the start, but that might be the autism talking on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 10:54 PM
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....Pointing out that men (or any group) is blamed for something isn't "victimization" if it's obviously true. I guess the victim card ad hominem is just convenient overall. But i hang out with autists so don't ask me about the neurotypicals Ok then shoulda mentioned that from the start lol. Good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:42 PM
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Sure, it's nice. But why are these types of comments from woman to woman 99% of all compliments? Why are they so sacred that these compliments must be made even when it's obviously embellishment or a lie? In many cases, a female commenter already sees plenty of "beautiful" comments, and still just chooses to add to the pile. An outsider looking in would be led to believe a woman being told she is beautiful is of utmost importance among women themselves, not appreciation of anything else about he…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:27 PM
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Yeah we both know a "So beautiful" comment from a woman is not going to be received the same as one from a dude - or even a close guy friend unless he's gay - no matter how harmless. But again, "it's the easiest thing to compliment" isn't going to cut it when they're complaining women aren't complimented or recognized for anything else. What do they like to say, the call is coming from inside the house. They really should be the change they want to see, assuming they aren't being disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:18 PM
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Same with sex. The trope is hot women just lie there bc they've never had to learn or make the effort. Joke's on them, a lot of men will absolutely get hooked on an enthusiastic 5-6/10 who jumps through hoops in bed, although that's assuming a relationship purely sexual in nature is what everyone wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:54 PM
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Almost all of what they say is about their physical appearance and not their intellect, sense of humor or any other qualities in terms of who they are as a person. When there are few comments about anything else the inference is their outer beauty is the only thing memorable and worth mentioning. Sounds like objectification to me. Even worse is when the woman is obviously not attractive but the compliments remain the same or even increase, like there is the refusal to acknowledge the elephant in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:46 PM
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Why do women complain about how men only go for looks and society only values them for physical appearance when the most common compliment they give each other and their friends is how gorgeous and pretty they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:14 PM
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In the modern day, the hierarchy of privilege goes in descending order top men, top women, normal women, normal men. Women overall are more privileged even though the ones at the very top are a significantly smaller group of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:41 AM
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fun fact napoleon was 5'7 which was above average during the time and where he was
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:30 AM
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Her face, body and assets have broad, near universal appeal to straight men. Checks all the boxes and yeah she's not going to be anyone's #1 but that's how attractiveness from bland conventional beauty works. Only people who object are going to be the argumentative and terminally online BP types calling her mid looking up from their retarded blackpill notes and those with more extreme or niche preferences eg chubbychasers but even they assuming basic self awareness would know they are in the min…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:04 AM

How averse can someone be to touching grass to even wonder if the opinions here are reflective of any type of public perspective or reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:24 AM
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Reminds me of that one movie Liar Liar. Sure since he was a lawyer it would have been difficult for him regardless when speaking in court but half the time or more he could've just kept his mouth shut in all the awkward social situation scenes. Guess that would have made for a boring movie though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:19 AM
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The point is there are many factors such as social trends, personal issues and circumstances of all types, political or economic climate etc that explain why someone with any metric(s) might not be seeing the results they are expecting in dating. But people love to simplify it down to "the market has spoken" as a gotcha to those, usually men these days, who struggle with dating as is convenient for their argument. When things are flipped, suddenly they have all these ideas for why society is pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:30 PM
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If it were up to me I'd want her to have chosen me for my personality entirely. But it sure is confusing. I have a friend who got upset that her bf didn't rate her a 10, saying "your one and only should always be a 10 to you" after admitting she found him average looking but didn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:27 PM
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Difficult to imagine women having a problem with this, they often ask why men are so offended when they settle down with schlubs after a history of more attractive boyfriends or FWBs. "She ultimately chose you" "It's called maturing and realizing looks aren't everything, isn't that a good thing?" But also actually and in general, unless you are super shallow and want to be appreciated for your looks above all, I see nothing inherently offensive about your partner strictly placing empathy and loy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:06 PM
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<image> Guess it's time for most women to come to terms that their league is broke uneducated men, going by "the market determines your league" logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:55 PM
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Ofc you can be skinny and ugly, but on average people look better at lower weights vs being fat or chubby. Funny none of these women think their standards are too high if they can't get the men they want, it's always the problem with men. "You attract your league" is oversimplified and discounts a myriad of factors. Most average men on OLD get nothing. That doesn't mean their league is 0 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:13 PM
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Most toxic incel types look relatively normal and some look even good bc they are obsessed with looksmaxxing. It's the personality that is garbage. Autism, social stunting, self-defeatist thinking, destructive cycles and circular logic. May not necessarily be entirely their fault but it is what it is. If you're relatively new to these pilled spaces or rabbitholes it's easy to assume everyone is ugly because there are so many views you find repulsive and you automatically think only an ugly loser…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:21 AM
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If I engage in dialogue, the premise is I take people at their word. There's no point if I just assume everyone is lying. Tho in the past I've seen some people post their photos. Mostly just regular to decent looking young men. I imagine the fat or old people don't post their photos as much. shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:06 AM
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Ok so if you think they're all lying, just say that. It makes everything we discussed moot and it would've saved us a lot of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:04 AM
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We already talked about this. If they are slim or in shape, they are not entitled if they want a slim or in shape woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:01 AM
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Search the sub for any post that discusses women and high standards and look for the female (and some male) responses. Meanwhile I don't recall any men putting forth above-average women as average. Unless it's an obvious troll or bait comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:59 AM
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Do you have examples? As I said, if the guy is young, reasonably in-shape or slim, he isn't out of line to prefer a young, reasonably slim woman. Although tbh we're talking about a million other factors that play a role in a man's dating success. Being young and slim doesn't do much if you are autistic or have shitty social skills. It's stupid to talk about leagues and SMV as purely looks-based to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:57 AM
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There are comments and posts all the time here about how it's their own business if they want more than their market value. In contrast, when men want the same it's social campaigns about how problematic their preferences are. In any case, how is bringing up women's preferences relevant to what we're talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:47 AM
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The men here, based on self-report and the honor system, are largely young reasonably slim men wanting their female counterparts. Obviously older fatter men might want young slim women too but no one has ever argued that if these men won't settle for less they aren't entitled or being unrealistic. Literally nobody here is arguing that any man deserves above his looksmatch, nor have I seen anyone say so in the time I've lurked this sub; if anything there are complaints that their female looksmatc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:29 AM
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Until there are examples of actual fat middle-aged men here confused why they don't have their pick of young thin 20-somethings, you're just manufacturing targets out of thin air to make your point, just like the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:17 AM
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Why should a 20-something not overweight guy be okay with dating an older fat woman? You have this strawman of fat guys demanding thin women and no one is arguing that this would be entitlement on the man's part but obviously this is not the example everyone is discussing. It's just a young dude who takes care of himself wanting his female counterpart, the fact that "the average woman" is over 30 and has let herself go is moot. If every man turned into a fat neckbeard overnight there's no way wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:11 AM
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Based on what? Almost every guy here has said they just want a cute enough next-door type who is caring and loyal. You can call them liars based on nothing, just say that then. Meanwhile women here are like "it's nobody's business if I have high standards". You have men saying they don't have high standards and women unashamedly admitting they do and defending them, as the general trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:01 AM
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Also let's face it, many women don't just want taller men like a few inches taller to proportion it out. 5'2 - 5'4" women do not see 5'6-5'8" as ideal heights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:55 AM
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They're both shitty but they aren't the same at all. Negging is done by men to make the woman perceive him as high(er) value. Shit-testing is done by women to measure a man's value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:58 AM
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Eating disorders are never good but there has always been plenty of awareness and campaigning due to the problem traditionally affecting middle-to-upper class white women. Nevertheless looking around it does not seem like anorexia is something most people are suffering from although disordered eating and warped attitudes toward food are common. There is no comparison if you're talking about how much obesity and sedentary lifestyles are harming modern western populations vs not eating enough. As …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:33 AM
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And I have no idea why same-age, non-fat women without children is considered "unreasonable." I've seen women tell the young and presumably non-overweight men on here that if they aren't willing to date fat women over 30 they are entitled and have high standards bc the average woman is 40 and overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:41 AM
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Ignoring the straw dinosaur and misandry, whatever happened to people being entitled to whatever standards they want ("and if they can't find anyone it's their business")? Inb4 "but women aren't the ones complaining when they can't find a man they're attracted to willing to date them" uh yes they are JFL if you think women are finding they can only get men who don't check off their boxes and just reacting with a shrug and smile. The pockets of incel and manosphere rabbitholes are where men compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:39 AM
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Only if you're a vegan or vegetarian for moral reasons and not dietary or health ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:02 AM
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Watching how women act around attractive men when their SOs aren't around will change you. TBF I'm sure men are just as bad. We live in a society of degeneracy and hedonism and loyalty is no longer the value it once was, makes you not want to be in a relationship ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:58 PM
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This changes nothing. The men who are well socially adjusted and had no problems dating will continue to have no problems dating. The men women find repulsive and incelly will continue to get nothing but it's not like they lost anything to begin with. Isolated pockets of femcels or radfems online are not going to matter, 99% of women are not foregoing a relationship with any guy they find themselves attracted to and compatible with who is mutually interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:34 PM

This discussion involves many factors and a bigger picture. A lot of it also has to do with nowadays, a liveable career being much harder to come by for both sexes. The career/salary thing hurts men more than it does women in dating. It's not a coincidence a lot of men who resort to these manosphere rabbitholes do not have a lot going for them in life otherwise, even if it may not be entirely their fault. Poor socialization in the digital era is also a huge issue but would be a tangent, but also…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:01 PM

I will admit I don't see why some men are so desperate (for sex?) that they will shack up with women they dislike or feel little attraction to. I'm as horny as any other guy and a relationship will always be a ton of stress and work even when perfect - why a guy would sactifice their time, money and peace for just anyone is beyond me. If less men did this you wouldn't see as many entitled women. These women may be "okay with being single" but that doesn't change their horrible attitude. They may…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:35 PM

Sure, like I said. "None of my business" is acceptable when women respond to critique, but when directed toward men it's suddenly "everyone needs to educate themselves and talk about this." And with the sheer amount of women complaining about "trash men" and "where are all the good/real men" it's obvious they aren't anymore okay with dating woes as men are. "I would not criticize them for having them or call them problematic" I'll take your personal word for it, but when fit men say something as…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:20 PM

So are you admitting you have impossible or unreasonably high standards and don't care, or are you saying your standards aren't unreasonable? There have been multiple nation to worldwide campaigns aimed at critiquing and changing men's standards or calling them problematic. It's only when it comes to women's standards that it's "everyone is entitled to their own preferences". Same with male vs female gaze. Male gaze is the butt of jokes and "you know women don't really find that attractive right…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:16 PM
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One thing I do keep hearing from time to time is about cultural expectations in the modern day thanks to all this technology that allows people to track and stay in constant touch with their kids - a good thing bc it's much easier to get ahold of them, but parents are also held to the standard of knowing where their kids are at all times while maintaining comms which I imagine heightens the stress which was already high inherently to begin with. Just 20 - 30 years ago parents would let their kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:11 PM
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A lot of people watch Anime. Not a lot of people on instagram have anonymous accounts with anime pfps and 0 posts commenting blackpill shit, which is where most of the bp stuff comes from. There's a difference. Perhaps the world has become so messed up and men are so weird or shut-in looks have actually become more important in many areas. In my professional circles this hasn't reflected reality. It's nd men looksmaxxing for nd women who are prioritizing looks bc they won't ever have a chance wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:47 PM
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I think it was much less difficult the case even 10-15 years ago for a man to make his way up the ladder, not necessarily to be wealthy by strict definition but simply in a place to live comfortably without any worries. So I agree with your overall assessment, but this current reality isn't the same as saying looks matter most or looks above all. Social skills and competence are also huge; on the surface "anyone" can improve their social skills but a myriad of factors and circumstances prevent m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:44 PM
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I'm not reading through all that, but a quick glance at the conclusions/results of the studies doesn't really say looks are the most important factor - in the 2nd link it even outright says it isn't. Saying looks plays a role in getting your foot in the door isn't the same as saying looks is the most important. If you've bought into the blackpill hook line and sinker there's a good chance you're a very neurodivergent man who suffers severely socially or you have nothing else going for you and ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:37 PM
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Saw an ista-reel the other day that just confirmed what I've always believed. Guys get into looksmaxxing these days bc they are increasingly unable to excel in the other criteria that are traditionally (and currently) what women still value, like status and social competence. When you have no hope of ever becoming rich or successful and you are on the spectrum or stunted developmentally with anxiety, what else do you have but to try to max out your looks. This affects women as well, as entire yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:06 AM
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