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During tough times you remember that the majority of the time is good, and can decide that in the future it will likely be mostly good too, so it is worth staying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 03:35 PM
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More than 50% is “most”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:35 PM
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If that’s all it did, it wouldn’t be allowed, it is just a side effect. The main purpose is to protect the rights you have over your own body and medical decisions, which are taken away if you are forced to go through a pregnancy/birth, so the father and mother equally don’t have this burden. After this point if the mother decides she doesn’t want to take care of the baby, and the father does, then she will have to pay him child support in the same way that he would have to. Otherwise, they can …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:44 AM
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If you can’t afford or don’t want a child, being able to have an abortion isn’t an advantage. It just gives you the option to mostly remove (since there could still be disadvantages from having the abortion) the disadvantage of having to go through an unwanted pregnancy and birth, which men don’t have, and only if you are actually able to get one and aren’t against them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:47 AM
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Just because abortion is legal, doesn’t mean it is an option that everyone would morally be able to take, even if they wouldn’t be able to support the child financially. The choice will have a big consequence on whether the potential future child will exist or not, in addition to whether you will have to go through biological changes/medical procedures. There could also be cases where the pregnancy wasn’t discovered until an abortion was no longer possible for example, so the choice still wasn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:35 PM
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The part you quoted sounds like the odds ratios are referring to the odds of men in same sex relationships vs men in opposite sex relationships (0.685), and the odds of women in same sex relationships vs women in opposite sex relationships (1.560). All that would mean is that gay men are suspects at 0.685 times the rate of straight men, and gay women are suspects at 1.560 times the rate of straight women (and that can still be lower than for gay men), it doesn’t compare the rate of men vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:17 PM
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It says in the results The differences in criminal behavior between men and women in same-sex and opposite-sex relationships are shown in Fig. 2. These comparisons showed that, between 1996 and 2020, men in opposite-sex relationships were most com- monly suspected of crime (22.4%), followed by men in same- sex relationships (14.1%), women in same-sex relationships (8.6%), and finally by women in opposite-sex relationships (6.8%). The same pattern was found for all types of crime except for drugs…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:39 PM
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People naturally want to fit in to what society expects of them, so they don’t stand out and get judged negatively. Even in the early 2000s as a young girl I questioned if something was wrong with me and if I somehow developed with a male brain because of my natural ability/interest in STEM, and as a child from what I had heard I literally thought that men and women had completely different brains and women aren’t good at or interested in that stuff. Personally, this didn’t stop me, but I can se…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:54 PM
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Were you angry asking that question too then, since you made a similar comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:54 PM
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Last I heard the theory was men constantly tried to have sex with as many different women as they were able to, as the biological limit for how often they can impregnate someone is very short, while women are more selective as if they get pregnant it will be a long time before they can again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:05 PM
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Traditional roles are fine as long as that’s not the only option available, and people who don’t want that can choose otherwise. Also, at the moment more people may lean towards those roles than would otherwise, due to examples or expectations from previous generations or religions for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:34 AM
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How do they do that? I didn’t hear anyone at university speak about feminism the whole time I was there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:28 PM
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I also think it’s possible to look good without makeup, and think natural/minimal makeup often looks best, but thought it would be fun to try spot what they could be wearing. I don’t often wear makeup and have never worn some of these things I’ve listed, so could also have probably missed some things: smudged eyeliner or mascara under lower eyelashes maybe light pink eyeshadow, eyebrows gelled maybe darkened, maybe dots of concealer on some blemishes definitely mascara, eyeliner, highlighter on …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:19 PM
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OP is saying it’s the same for both men and women, that’s why it says “likewise” at the start of the paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:09 PM
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They wouldn’t like it if their friend would stop being friends with them if there was no chance of a romantic relationship and they weren’t making their intentions clear either way, but they just don’t find out about it if they do end up in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:47 PM
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Monetary value isn’t automatically the best way just because it can be quantified. Lots of other metrics could also be quantified but be irrelevant, and many subjective factors would be better taken into consideration. For example, how necessary is the task, could/would you want to pay someone else to do it, difficulty, length of time, how much you each enjoy doing it, etc. Subjectively coming up with an agreement you both think is fair could end up being more accurate to what actually feels fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:45 AM
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How did they imply that the child support wouldn’t be spent on the kids, or that he will be spending more money than before? It seems like the “threat” is just that she will leave him. Also, why should work be split by monetary value rather than difficulty or effort? A task could be difficult and take a long time, but not provide any monetary value, but still be something that needs to be done and would be more important to do than earning more money. Does that mean the partner of someone doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:12 PM
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More violence occurs from people we are regularly alone with and less cautious around, due to those two factors. If we behaved the same with strangers, the risk of violence from them would increase too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 08:22 PM
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They likely can’t feel love without being attracted to their personality either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:28 PM
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Easy debate topics that are often repeated and don’t take much effort to get involved and waste time with if you have small amounts of free time. Can be fun to argue/participate in drama online when you don’t do it in person. My personal experiences don’t match with a lot of others’ on here, I’ve never used a dating app and wouldn’t have casual sex etc, so it’s interesting to read about. Some of the studies can also be interesting. Questions you can answer just due to the fact you’re a woman tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:11 AM
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Yes, and I wouldn’t switch his looks with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 12:14 AM
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Unless you’re religious, marriage is kind of just a legal contract between two people, creating financial obligations and providing legal rights and responsibilities for one another and potential children. For the non-religious, wouldn’t it be better to marry if the terms of that contract are practical to both of you (which would likely only be the case if you desire to be together anyway), since those terms are the only things it is actually going to change, rather than just doing it to be roma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:28 PM
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If that didn’t even narrow it down enough and you still had lots of good matches with equal potential using all the information you have except looks, then why not also narrow down by looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:56 AM
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I think the split is just referring to the split of chores, not chores+work. My interpretation was that the person staying home does 40h childcare and some of their extra portion of chores while the other is working 40h, and the remainder of chores are split while they are both home to work out to those proportions overall. Though even if it did include work, then if for example you wanted to split 110 hours 60/40 that would be 66+44 hours, which allows for 40 hours of work to be included in tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:53 AM
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Why would they need to do 200 hours? You could do a 60/40 split for any number of hours. For example if there are 10hrs of chores to do they could do 6+4 hours, if there are 5 hours of chores they could do 3+2 hours. For a 70/30 split these would be 7+3 hours for 10 hours of chores or 3.5+1.5 hours for 5 hours of chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:13 AM
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The people who are willing to take those risks for someone would rather take them for a person they want more than others, if looks are the only thing they have to go off of then it will have to be based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:28 PM
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Or for example someone with evidence that they pose less risks would be more worth the risks than an equally attractive person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:59 PM
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We both do, but have hardly ever checked it unless it’s to see where the other left their phone if we are out and one of us realises we don’t have it on us or something. Could also be used to check if they have landed at an airport or got to a train station yet or something if you’re meant to meet them there and they aren’t responding for example. No reason not to have it, and it could come in useful at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:20 PM
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I was mostly wondering why the minimum of the range was 5’7”, and whether you were meaning below that range they also don’t care as much. As a woman near the bottom of that range who doesn’t care, in my experience it seems like the shorter a woman is below average the more they care and talk about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:35 PM
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Why do you think no one else would pick it? Slim but curvy seems to be the most popular look at the moment from social media. 2 and 3 (and 6 but it’s a bit unnatural looking) are similar and seem to fit this, but 2 has the narrowest waist/rib cage compared to the hips, so that’s the one I thought would get picked the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:47 PM
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Is that the height range that cares the most, or just a random example range that cares more than 6’ women? Is this from a study, or your own experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:59 PM
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Whoever has the most reasons to be the authority on a certain topic, due to them knowing more or the other person not caring as much, will be the authority in that moment. Why does this need to be the same person in every situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:51 PM
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No, a life like that with a lot of money would be much worse than a life with a normal amount of money that I would be able to make on my own, or with someone I love who treats me well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:48 AM
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Someone could have 60% chance of getting into a relationship with 3/10s, 20% for 5/10s, 1% for 8/10s. All of this information together is their league, rather than just “their league is 3/10s”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:44 PM
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For example if the horizontal axis here went from 1 to 10, and the vertical axis was the mutual attraction/probability of sex or a relationship, that could be a way of visualising someone’s league.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:32 PM
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He may be a 3/10, but his league is a range up to 8/10 if that’s the highest he can get. This could be a probability distribution which decreases as the scale increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:15 PM
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In that case, the above still applies, and his feelings will be hurt too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:43 PM
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He’s only covering his expenses because they are in a relationship. If the terms of the relationship are that they are monogamous, and she breaks them, she‘s no longer eligible for the benefits of being in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:07 PM
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I know hormones can affect behaviour (though not seen the evidence for all the specific behaviours they mentioned for ovulation in particular), I was mostly interested in how they know they have observed it for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:30 AM
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Yes, I was just wondering if you somehow knew for sure they were actually ovulating, rather than just seeing women with open body language for example and assuming that means they’re ovulating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:47 AM
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How do you know they’re actually ovulating to be able to match it up to these actions, rather than just having decided they want to get a guy any other time of the month?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:26 PM
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Yes, but that doesn’t disagree with the point that a YouTuber will have a different experience from the average person. The average person gets less attention than a YouTuber.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:44 PM
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The average person doesn’t, nor do they have subreddits made about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:53 AM
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Don’t you need to be impressed by some characteristics someone has in order to fall in love with them? These characteristics or things they offer don’t all need to be shallow/materialistic, and could be things inherent to who they are as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:01 AM
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They don’t, where did you get that information?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:01 AM
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It’s risk vs reward. The reasoning behind not having casual sex with less attractive men is that the reward of sex with an unattractive man isn’t worth the risk of pregnancy (and other risks), but sex with an attractive man may be worth it even if the risks are just as bad/unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:42 AM
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In my experience, people who say they have simple needs are often saying it positively, and see it as better than the alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:05 PM
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You can still feel shy and nervous about what to say around someone you like (or are still getting to know but are interested in), and have a good experience being around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:58 PM
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Not if their aim is just to find someone to have sex with. Something doesn’t have to be difficult to be enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:51 PM
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There’s a greater risk of becoming homeless in another country at any time of day, and having someone hold that over you. Possessions could be stolen easily. Anything could be done to you while you are sleeping, or even just alone in a private location with a stranger you might not be able to physically defend yourself from. I’d prefer to pay for my own accommodation and not be worrying about those risks, even if there was only a 1% chance of anything actually happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 02:01 PM
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To many, the risks of being financially dependent on, and physically vulnerable with a stranger would not be worth the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:20 AM
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If the deformities are so bad they cause bad hygiene issues or skin conditions (or the deformity imitates them) that make me feel instinctively uncomfortable with the thought of touching them, it would have to be a rare set of circumstances where I might get feelings for them. Along the lines of I already love them before they got/I find out about the deformity or there’s something else extremely special about them that makes me see past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 09:29 PM
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As in being perceived to be doing something morally worse. Not sure what you’re meaning by the second part.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:40 PM
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No. Personally I don’t dont see what the big deal is about having biological children, and would love an adopted child as much as a biological one. I think that’s an important thing to agree on with someone you could potentially have children with. Edit: If they would adopt but told me they’d rather shoot themselves in the face than date a single mother I also wouldn’t, as I would likely take it as a hint of other negative views towards women, as those are the only times I ever really see it spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:02 PM
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Attraction can be based on things other than just looks, and I’d say it’s fairly common for overall attraction based on multiple factors to increase from nothing. Less so if the start point was finding them unattractive. Purely physical attraction is unlikely to increase with no other changes, but I do think it’s possible to increase or at least be looked past over time as your perception is influenced by your attraction to other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 11:59 AM
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Doesn’t it look worse for a man to be dating multiple women and letting them believe they’re in relationships with him, than it does to be a woman who is dating this guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:00 AM
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Even if the data is correct and it is only because attractive men are dating multiple women at once while the women they think they’re in committed relationships with them, how does that make women look bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 06:10 PM
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Could it not be an emotion caused by the biological drive to reproduce, in the same way fear could be an emotion caused by the biological drive for survival?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:24 PM
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I hadn’t thought about this before, but the definition of emotion is a strong feeling deriving from one's circumstances, mood, or relationships with others which seems to agree with it being an emotion. Also, Wikipedia states sexual desire is an emotion, with a source. Some other discussion comes up when you Google whether sexual desire is an emotion, which states some people may disagree (though the writer here is arguing that it is one).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:21 PM
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If most men wouldn’t wait 6 months for sex, there’s still a period of time where they are in a relationship but not having sex. There are also exceptions, like people who would be fine with never having sex, or those who can’t due to medical reasons for example. It’s like asking why being in a relationship and being faithful to them aren’t same things. Yes, it could be safe to assume someone’s being faithful if they’re in a relationship, but there are still people who cheat, so they aren’t the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:29 PM
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Because they’re different things. How would you make the distinction that you’ve started dating someone but you haven’t had sex yet, or that you’ve had sex with someone but aren’t in a relationship with them, if they both meant the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:45 PM
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The fact that romantic relationships and sex aren’t the same thing doesn’t mean that women don’t enjoy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:01 PM
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Even though most of us may have a preference for a specific one in this situation, since OP has already told us, I don’t think it would be an absolute dealbreaker to many, or that they would go out of their way to find out this information before getting into a closer relationship with someone. For those who don’t care that much, it’s more often something you find out later on as you get comfortable talking about those topics, and if it’s a much larger number than you were expecting, you just de…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 10:12 PM
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What percentage of men do you think would still love a woman he isn’t attracted to, and doesn’t benefit him in any other way, or meet any of his conditions for starting to love a woman? Do you think this has not been the case even once for a woman, and if so what evidence do you have for these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:00 PM
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Can’t I just use the same argument you did and say a pulse and being able to produce a boner are still conditions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 08:51 PM
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Do you think men would love an abusive drug addict woman with a criminal history? Are there absolutely no conditions required for a woman to be loved?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 08:24 PM
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How is that “giving permission”? It’s just stating a fact. A fact which is the reason why they don’t find a problem with the situation described in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:24 PM
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I feel women usually wear it just to fit in to society, and not be judged as negatively by others, not just for men specifically. Most women who wear makeup daily would still wear it even if they were going somewhere they knew for sure there would only be other women. For example if you had greasy hair and smelled bad, would you still want to shower if you were going round a male friend’s house and meeting some other guys you haven’t met before? I think most people would, because they want to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:41 PM
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If it’s on the list of what’s important at all, then wouldn’t it still be good to find out beforehand?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:49 PM
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By “complete” they’re just meaning they can take care if themselves, and do fine on their own, as shown by the examples they gave. It doesn’t mean that their life is completely perfect and theres no way anything could ever improve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:17 PM
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Not accepting a polite rejection is different from complaining elsewhere about an impolite rejection. It would be fine for a guy who got rudely rejected when he did nothing wrong to complain, and she would likely be called rude by others. It would also be creepy for a woman to not accept a polite no from someone she’s interested in a relationship with. Though, asking for sex right away is more likely to be seen as doing something wrong than asking for a relationship, as many people are not into …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:49 AM
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What evidence do you have for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 01:24 PM
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What is stopping attractiveness from being an asymmetrical distribution, and what evidence is there that a bell curve would be more healthy? When did women consistently rate men according to a bell curve?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 02:58 PM
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People often just use attractiveness to mean how interested their potential partners are in them, not just as a measure of their physical appearance. If men would be interested in sex/relationships with a larger proportion of women, than the other way round, then would that not mean there are more attractive women if we use that definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 02:52 AM
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I agree. Women are typically more selective than men as we just aren’t as interested due to higher risk vs reward, so we need more convincing. I can understand being frustrated about it if you are more interested and can’t find a partner, but I don’t think women are in the wrong and men in the right, it’s just the way you would logically behave due to those social/biological differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:47 PM
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Even if they don’t deserve respect, there’s no reason to automatically lose respect for someone doing something easy, it isn’t intrinsically bad. It’s easy to breathe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 05:50 PM
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Yeah I think I saw events like that at uni. There does seem a push for women, but personally I can’t see how things like that are having any effect on more women going into tech/stem/etc. At most it would be a short presentation from a women talking about their work, that you probably wouldn’t have even gone to in the first place if you weren’t already studying one of those subjects. I think the biggest effect is just companies who announce they’re aiming for 50/50 men and women or for more dive…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 02:26 AM
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I would imagine growing up as a kid and having a obvious crush on a girl in class and your dad encouraging you to go talk to her, or guy friends in college going out together talking about their plans to get girls, or encouraging the shy friend to shoot their shot. I don’t imagine everyone experiences it, but you’d at least see from media that it’s more expected for men to do that. Even if you’re only encouraged to make a move if she already seems interested, that’s more than women are encourage…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 01:56 AM
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Yeah, in my experience only working in recent years, I don’t think there’s a preference for men at the moment, there just aren’t as many women applying to these jobs. This also likely makes women stand out more in applications and interviews, mostly for the bigger companies that have gender diversity policies and report their statistics, rather than small startups. Though I don’t agree with someone else in comments that said they’d get automatically get promoted very quickly as a women. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 11:32 AM
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Think what through? According to a calculator I found I am in the 95th percentile of height as a woman (my dad is also taller than that), and am in STEM, so used that as the male equivalent of me. I didn’t say confident for sure, just “maybe would be more confident” than I am now, and also gave an alternative answer for if that wasn’t the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:51 PM
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Assuming I’m a straight man and have similar genetics and life experiences like the OP described, some things that more specifically apply to me are: - I’d probably be about 6’2” quickly going by height percentiles, and would likely have the same STEM degree and tech career, due to natural interests, which as a man I would think would contribute more to my social status and attractiveness than it does now - Maybe would be more confident around the opposite sex due to knowing this, as well as soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:55 PM
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The parents’ aim is likely to find one who brings something other than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 11:25 PM
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In my experience, women who always have loads of guys chasing them are more likely to want to stay single, and those who have struggled to get a boyfriend want one more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 10:22 PM
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Most women wouldn’t have any guys interested in them if this were the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 02:44 PM
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Toxic masculinity doesn’t mean all masculinity is toxic, it is just referring to the parts that are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 06:28 PM
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My point was that even if they care more about that stuff, doesn’t mean they wouldn’t care at all about the salary if everything else was equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 11:04 AM
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What about they work the same hours and look the same but one makes $250k and one makes average salary? The fact they may care more about looks, doesn’t mean the money isn’t attractive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:08 PM
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Never understood how these ratings work or how someone’s meant to have a rating people should agree on? Does this mean you think she’s in the 35th percentile of attractiveness out of all people on earth, all women on earth, all women in the country you’re from, all women in her age range, or all women you specifically would consider for sex or a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:40 PM
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The question is asking for the minimum standards, which is likely to be what they are willing to look past if they have other positive qualities, rather than what they are actually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:28 PM
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In America 5’3” is in the second percentile for men’s heights, so it’s statistically unlikely she would have dated one even if she was open to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:21 PM
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If the two guys were equivalently attractive, most who were forced to pick would pick the guy around their own age. If the younger guy is unattractive and the older guy is attractive, like your example, and they were forced to pick, maybe more would be open to the older attractive guy. In reality, most women will have guys their age who they find attractive too, and also won’t be forced to pick between just those two options. Though there will still be a percentage who are open to dating older g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:02 PM
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It probably depends on what we mean by attractiveness. If we take it as a measure of how sexually desirable someone is based on looks alone, then a difference in sexual desire or selectiveness between men and women could indicate a difference in this. Though, you could also define it as just how good someone looks to others, even if they wouldn’t be interested in them sexually, or how desirable they are as a romantic partner based on looks for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:42 AM
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Why would there be a one to one looks match between every man and woman on earth? Couldn’t the distributions of attractiveness be different, and if not what is preventing that? For example if all attractive men and unattractive women died suddenly, would everyone still have a looks match?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 11:34 AM
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How can they be looks matched yet most people would rate the woman as more attractive, isn’t their attractiveness just determined by how people would rate them? They would be matched if she wasn’t wearing makeup and they rated her again?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:29 AM
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I don’t think many people wouldn’t do this. The only reason we work is to get money, not just because we enjoy it, and it seems like we would be allowed to do whatever we want apart from that. I am currently in a relationship, so the situation would be the same except I no longer have to work. I expect both of us would stay at home, since that is enough money for our whole lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 12:18 AM
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I don’t see how those two options would mean anything different. In both cases you’re just removing the actual height difference, so her problem of guys who prefer women to be shorter than them is removed. Which would mean she’s projecting, and which would mean it stems from how she’s treated (which would change in both scenarios)?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 12:34 PM
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I agree, it seemed like previously you were saying you don’t see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:33 PM
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Are you saying relationships where you don’t enjoy spending time together other than for sex are bad/stupid, or that enjoying spending time with your partner apart from sex is?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:00 PM
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The issue isn’t the fact he wants to have sex every time, it’s the fact he’s saying it would be a waste of time even hanging out with her otherwise. Even if she did want to have sex every time, he’s pretty much telling her that the only thing he likes about being with her is sex, and he doesn’t enjoy the time they’re together not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:29 AM
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I’ve probably had about 10 guys say they were interested in me or ask for my number over 10 years (though I have been in a relationship for almost 7 of them). Equal amounts from random guys on the street, parties, and friends of friends. This covers school/uni/early career age range, and the majority were from before starting uni (I think 1 at a party and 1 on the street since then). As background I hardly ever go to parties and don’t drink, have never used dating apps, never used Instagram or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:24 PM
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You were talking specifically about referring to his judgement for big decisions, not leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:36 PM
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People with birth defects and disfigurements from injuries can still find partners. There are also people who are blind, or don’t care about physical attractiveness either way. There’s probably even people who have specific kinks or fetishes for it. Do you really think theres not even one person on earth who would be with a completely unattractive person? If there’s just one person on earth with no standards, then technically there’s at least one person out there for everyone, even if most won’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:37 AM
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“Someone for everyone” doesn’t have to mean theres a one to one match between men and women, it could just mean that everyone has a certain percentage of the population that they could be compatible with, even if they don’t end up with any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:13 PM
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Why should being above average automatically mean they are attractive? Attractiveness is subjective and doesn’t just apply to everyone who is above the average. If all women became overweight tomorrow, would you think half were attractive? Also, more than half could be below average, if you are referring to the mean or mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:11 AM
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An entertaining way to waste time that needs to be wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:20 PM
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Same, I share my comments with my boyfriend, and he will sometimes ask if I’m debating again if I take a while to reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:06 PM
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Their participation in certain subreddits wouldn’t affect my opinion of them, if their comments aligned with what I think their personality and viewpoints are from speaking with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:01 PM
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If the guy naturally likes to spend money on her, and she’s just happily letting him do what he enjoys, why would that make her a bad person?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:47 PM
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I don’t understand that reasoning. They should be held accountable so that men with low standards aren’t able to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:50 AM
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Not being what RP men would be looking for doesn’t mean you can’t be immune to their tactics. Saying she’s their worst nightmare likely also includes implications that she isn’t what they’re looking for. Also, not enjoying negging doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy a genuine compliment, and complimenting people isn’t specific to RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 09:36 AM
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I already listed a couple of example reasons. Why couldn’t someone who actually has this opinion have more reasons after thinking about it longer? To follow your example, if a married man cheats and secretly has a baby with someone else and is financially contributing towards that for 20 years, that’s still taking money out of the marriage and affecting the wife who is also being lied to. Only difference if the wife cheated and raised the kid in the family is that you also have a kid you love, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:09 PM
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Even if you have reasons, which is worse is still just an opinion, not objective. People who think it’s worse for men to cheat can probably also come up with a list of their own reasons why. Some may say that the fact STDs can have more of a damaging affect on woman’s fertility, if their partner cheated and gave it to them without telling them, makes it worse for men to cheat. Some may say a woman could have had a higher risk of being killed by an abusive partner if trying to break up with them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:48 PM
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Aren’t you doing the exact same thing as them by thinking that female infidelity is objectively worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:41 AM
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What is a non-superficial masculine trait you think all men share?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:28 AM
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Many men in this situation wouldn’t cheat, and some may be completely understanding about why they don’t want to if there’s a good reason, so it’s at least not a universal need.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:46 PM
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I have this mindset, and have never had casual sex, but don’t care whether or not other people do. I think it’s fine if someone else doesn’t feel the same as me, and they should have as much sex as they want if they enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 09:02 PM
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I never have either, but that’s not enough evidence to claim the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 06:31 PM
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They aren’t shaped that way just to copy a penis, they’re shaped that way because that’s the shape of what fits in vaginas and makes them feel good. The fact a dildo mechanically feels good is unrelated to attraction to penises. Many don’t even look like penises at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 12:43 AM
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I’ve not been on the witches one before, but from a quick look I don’t see much specific talk of feminism or men. The other two, I’ve been on but never seen anything blaming men for anything or saying they hate all men, etc. It might have actually been r/askfeminists where I’ve seen feminists saying they don’t hate men (the one who says yes is obviously being sarcastic). Not sure why you’re assuming I think misandry doesn’t exist when I’ve already spoke about some people saying they hate men etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:15 PM
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I have read online in r/Feminism, so am wondering which other forums you frequent that are more representative of their viewpoints?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:24 PM
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Where do you get your information on feminism from?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:02 PM
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The only feminist discussions I’ve really seen are from r/Feminism, but I haven’t seen them blaming men for anything. At most I’ve seen people say stuff is caused by patriarchy, which is kind of blaming society as a whole, not just men. I think they would probably even remove/ban someone who was saying they hate all men. I don’t use other social media but have seen some people here say feminists hate men etc, but if that’s restricted to minority on certain websites, causes anger and is shared ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:14 PM
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That Roe V Wade one isn’t the one I mentioned, since that seemed to be one of the ones that was made after it was made private. The podcast posts made after it was made private seemed harsher and more controversial, but I thought maybe that’s because it’s just that one person that’s allowed to post and they may not be representative of how it was before. Though, I saw that boycott sex stuff from the one you mentioned said in other popular subs around that time too, so maybe not specific to FDS v…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:01 PM
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Claiming something is still doing something. I don’t see how those questions were so different, asking what they claimed is just slightly more specific. I even tried Google “FDS femcel” after your last comment to try find more information myself before trying to ask you again, and the first thing that came up was an old post on that sub saying they’re phasing out femcel language, and that mostly it was tongue in cheek. Most comments I’ve heard about it before seem to just imply that they encoura…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:22 PM
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I didn’t say “but they never shot up a school”, I asked exactly what they did do. What claims did they make that caused equivalent indirect harm?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:36 PM
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What exactly did they all do that’s equivalent to or worse than what Elliot Rodger did?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:24 PM
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I’ve only heard them claim women are policed more than men, not that men police more than woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:27 AM
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It’s made out to be more than just the possibility to match with Bumble users who use height filters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:35 PM
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I’d rather date a bi man who has had sex with other men, than one who aims to be traditionally masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:30 PM
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In my experience, physically attacking someone who insulted you would not be socially acceptable. Some people may understand the reaction, despite knowing it was the incorrect way to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 03:06 PM
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No one’s allowed to physically attack or assault anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:22 PM
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I will have one final try to explain my only point. Even if you disagree with my word choices in any of my explanations, hopefully you will understand at least one of my attempts to explain it. If so, ignore the ones where you disagree with a word choice, since they’re all attempts at explaining the same thing, and I am not trying to discuss word meanings. Just assume I made a mistake if you want to. Whether the number will change, whether the underlying data is subjective, and whether the word …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:13 PM
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The only point I was trying to make was in my first two comments, and I don’t see any problem with how I explained it there. To me that’s just a rewording of how I stated it again recently, and you said you didn’t disagree that time. The rest is just replying to pass the time during work, even though I don’t get why you’re going on so many tangents. Discussing and coming up with a response can still be entertaining even if you don’t care about the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:29 PM
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Good luck to you if you care this much about irrelevant word choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:50 AM
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I can’t remember what I said but it in general you can study a group and come to conclusions about the group, so I don’t even know what the problem is if you interpreted it to be general anyway. The first time you mentioned my usage of “a group” was yesterday, you haven’t been trying to get me to understand that for 5 days. Prior to that you were talking about objective vs subjective. Also, I feel exactly the same as you, that I have been using these words correctly, and you have just been misun…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:28 PM
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You don’t say “a group” when you are talking about groups in general (you’d say “groups”), you say it when you’re talking about a single group but aren’t identifying exactly which single group. I don’t even remember exactly which time I said “a group” that you’re disagreeing with, but I can’t imagine why not specifically identifying which group would have that big of an impact on the point that you couldn’t understand it, or why it’s worth discussing this much. I don’t even really care about any…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 05:09 PM
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“A group” was implied to be “a specific group”, and that’s how the vast majority of people who understand studies would interpret it, and it is an accepted meaning. My only point is that it’s possible to objectively measure people’s opinions on attractiveness, even though they’re subjective opinions, and make conclusions from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:02 PM
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How am I meant to specify the name of an exact group, when it’s just an example and I’m talking about a non-existent group? I considered writing “a specific group”, but thought that it wasn’t required since it is extremely obvious what it means either way, assuming you know how studies work, without having to be that precise and type out and extra word. I also don’t even get what the big deal is if you interpreted it as a non-specific group. I don’t know why you keep changing to random semantic …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:25 PM
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If I was talking about groups in general I would say “groups” not “a group”. Replacing “a” with “one” in your statements: If I’m talking about one band. What band am I talking about? What’s the difference? How is “one band” different from “a band”? They are both specific to a single band, but you just don’t know which band it is. “A band doesn’t make money from selling CD’s” is talking about a specific band. If I was talking about bands in general I would say “bands don’t make money from selling…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:11 PM
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A group means one group. “A” indicates a singular group, just like “one” does. You can study a representative sample group from within a specific group and extrapolate that to the rest of the same group. This group can be however big you want it to be, as long as you are able to get a representative sample group from within it. This discussion started when you claimed it was impossible to measure whether one thing is more attractive than another, and I suggested a way to measure that. That’s the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:08 PM
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Your point is that it’s impossible to measure attractiveness or make any universal claims that X is more attractive than Y, since it is subjective. My point is that if you create a metric such as “subjective attractiveness rating from 1-10” you could study a group and make objective universal claims for that group. Also, “a group” and “one group” are the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:33 PM
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Whether or not the underlying data is subjective or objective is irrelevant. I understand the individual persons view of attractiveness is objective and can’t be measured objectively, but any studies/calculations based on this data can be objective. You can objectively conclude that 95% of a group gave a subjective rating of attractiveness between 8/10 and 9/10, which could be extrapolated to the rest of the group to estimate another individual has a 95% chance of rating them within that range.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 12:07 PM
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Whether something stays the same if the group stays the same is irrelevant to whether it is objective. You can objectively say in group A, X is true, and in group B, Y is true. If you choose a group to study, for example 20-25 year old women from the UK, you could get a large enough representative sample of people from that group that the distribution of answers would be accurate enough to extrapolate to the rest of that group within a certain error range. Technically you could also do this with…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 05:24 PM
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“This person is attractive“ is subjective. “80% of those surveyed said they found this person attractive” is objective. “On average, the studied group rated this persons attractiveness at 7/10” is objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:53 PM
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Technically even “my favourite colour is red” is an objective statement. You would still make that same conclusion about me if you asked me what my favourite colour was. A subjective statement would be “red is the best colour”. Either way, you can still measure subjective data and make conclusions from it. Do you think it’s impossible to ask a representative sample what length of hair they prefer, and conclude that on average the studied population preferred a certain length of hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:07 PM
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It is about averages, because the average is how you turn it from a subjective value into an objective one. For example if I asked my family how many spoonfuls of sugar they like in their tea, each value would be subjective, but if the average was 1, it would be an objective fact that on average the people in my family prefer 1 spoonful of sugar.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:55 PM
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Then is average heart rate subjective? I could even measure the heart rate of the same exact group at different times, and the average won’t be exactly the same. Whether the average changes by group has nothing to do with whether or not it is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:03 PM
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Average heart rate will also change depending on the group, is that subjective? An average is not subjective since it is determined by maths, even if the underlying values are subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:41 PM
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The average won’t change depending on who is calculating the value, only depending on the group. It is not based on our own personal viewpoint. That’s like saying average heart rate is subjective, because it will change depending on the group. If we had a group of people rate someone’s attractiveness and write it down on a piece of paper, I could take that paper and calculate the average, and so could you, and we would get the exact same value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:11 PM
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The rate of evolution can change depending on how selectively we reproduce, not just the rate of reproduction. If 80% of women who reproduced were physically attractive, and 60% of the men who reproduced were, then maybe genetic mutations which increase the attractiveness of women would be more likely to be passed on with each generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:27 PM
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I have never said attractiveness is objective or can be measured objectively, I have said that the amount of people who find someone attractive or the average rating they would receive from a group of people is objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:01 PM
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I don’t see how the number of chromosomes/genes could mean this couldn’t be included in the sex differences, when there are already a lot of sex differences due to that. Men and women could both inherit a gene that says their skin is smoother due to oestrogen for example, but that still disproportionately effects women. Couldn’t we have also evolved a random gene mutation that led to testosterone causing smooth skin or less hair? Also, even though both men and women have been selected for physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:44 PM
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Prettier women reproducing more than less pretty women, not more than men. For example if we had 10 men and 10 women each spread evenly across the physical attractiveness scale (1/10, 2/10, …, 10/10), a 5/10 and 6/10 man could reproduce with a 8/10 and 9/10 woman, and each could have 5 male and 5 female babies. The female babies could then have inherited more attractive feminine traits (for example less body hair or smoother skin), whereas the male babies didn’t inherit as much. There’s still th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:57 AM
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If we both calculated the average attractiveness rating the same group of people gives to the same individual person, we would find the exact same average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:44 AM
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What do you mean “why try to explain by evolution what can much more easily be explained by sociology”? Why couldn’t a social behaviour like you described lead to evolution? What would you expect to be the effect from your example of women being seen as property, prettiness being more important for women than for men? Why wouldn’t that lead to prettier women reproducing more? Aren’t our assumptions of male strength being caused by evolution also just going by what makes sense? I just don’t see w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:48 PM
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The average life expectancy will also change depending on the group you study, does that mean you can’t measure that objectively?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:19 PM
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Ability to protect based on status within the community or the amount of resources they own, rather than looks, for example then. Maybe men were selected more for mental characteristics which were correlated with this, whereas women were selected for physical characteristics. Another possibility could be that during some time period in our evolution, men had more of a say than women in the selection process, leading to more physically attractive women being selected for evolution and mens physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:01 AM
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The aim would be to ask everyone, or a representative sample and extrapolate if that isn’t possible. Even if you asked a specific demographic, you could still find someone’s average attractiveness as measured by a given metric to that specific demographic. You would have to create a metric such as “percentage of people who would describe them as physically attractive”, “average rating out of 10 for physical attractiveness” and use that as the objective measurable criteria. Even if whether an ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:07 PM
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Women may have selected more on strength and ability to protect than men do, since they were weaker and more vulnerable during pregnancy, so looks were a smaller factor than they were for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:50 PM
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I’m not assuming it’s universal, I’m assuming that it would reduce the rating given by the majority of people, even if a minority may increase. If they lost muscle mass they would be weaker than they were the year previous, and the differential between men and women would reduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:46 PM
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If for example next year every woman became obese, wouldn’t their average attractiveness go down from this year to next year? Ideally as measured by asking every man to rate every woman’s attractiveness, but more realistically by random samples.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:41 PM
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You can measure it by asking many people to rate people’s attractiveness, or the attractiveness of specific characteristics. That would be enough evidence to be able to objectively state that “the average attractiveness of this person was X/10”, or “X% of people find being tall unattractive”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:19 PM
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Why doesn’t it make sense? Maybe historically men were more selective by physical attractiveness than women so attractive women were more likely to survive and reproduce, but it was less of a factor in the survival/reproduction of men for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:06 PM
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I don’t think they are saying that they’re related, just that if strength is able to be unbalanced between men and women, why can’t physical attractiveness be?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:51 PM
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Not everyone has to date someone. They may be fine being alone if they don’t want to be with a man who has those opinions that all men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:29 AM
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You’re comparing men who want women for their looks in addition to being attracted to them in their own right, to women who want men only for their money without being attracted to them in their own right. It’s also possible for women to want a partner with money who wants to treat them and buy them things, and just having their own money and buying stuff for themselves wouldn’t be as desirable. What use is it to attract guys who just want you for your looks and see you as replaceable by anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:55 PM
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His money makes her attracted to him. She wants him so she can get money, he wants her so she can get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:49 PM
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Looks are almost guaranteed to fade over time, whereas it’s more possible to stay wealthy your whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:47 PM
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A man can also be attracted to only the beauty and not the person, just being interested in sex for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:28 PM
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Looks aren’t a part of you that can’t disappear. A 50 year old who was physically attractive at 20 isn’t going to attract all the same men as she did back then. If a woman becomes unattractive, it’s possible their partner will leave them for it. Money and looks are both characteristics that are possible to have through luck from birth, or to a certain extent through working hard. They can both indicate things about the person that are a part of their being, for example their motivation to keep f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:22 PM
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Less confident more emotional men care more. Less confident = more insecure about the fact she had previous partners, and worrying about comparison, or that she might leave or cheat, etc. More emotional = more likely to be upset/angry/jealous about this and express their opinions on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:05 AM
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If they’re being negative towards those who they don’t want maybe, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with people staying single if they don’t find anyone who appeals to them, or having preferences for characteristics that don’t apply to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 04:33 PM
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It’s ok to want something you can’t have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 04:13 PM
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Depending on how someone uses it, the feeling of being found cute and having someone take care of you, or giving your trust over to someone stronger than you. Even just the fact you’re saying something that some people would find wrong could get your nerves/senses heightened and enhance the experience for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 11:13 AM
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The whole question was But who’s worse…the asshole? Or the one that looks at the asshole and says “hmm I’d like to have his baby” isn’t this asking what is morally worse? Women may have the choice to abort the baby, but that doesn’t make a difference to the fact that getting pregnant in the first place was a joint decision. Both of them should have prior awareness that once she gets pregnant there’s no guarantee on whether she would have an abortion or not, and make their decisions based on that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 03:42 PM
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Different people have different viewpoints on whether having no life is better than being raised without a father. You may think that a mother having an abortion if she knows the father isn’t going to stay is a good outcome but many won’t. In my opinion, they have equal responsibility for the pregnancy, so an equally wrong decision there. Whether or not it’s morally best for the mother to have an abortion or keep the baby after that is subjective. Whether or not it’s morally best for the father …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 02:12 PM
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The number of choices she has after getting pregnant doesn’t make a difference. She wouldn’t need to make any choice if she wasn’t already pregnant. If the father chose to not have sex or to use contraception, there would be 0 chance of a negative outcome for a baby that doesn’t exist. The mother and father have equal responsibility for that. As soon there’s is potential baby, at the mother is forced to chose between options which are all going to have some kind of negative outcome. The father c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:56 PM
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I have acknowledged that. They both have an option, women just get an additional one later on too. I don’t get why that makes the decision to have a baby fully her own, or makes her role worse? Without the father she wouldn’t even have to be choosing between something she may see as murder, or raising a baby without a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:50 AM
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He has a choice of whether to cause a pregnancy in a woman who could potentially not see abortion as an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:09 AM
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Even if it may be legal, that it doesn’t mean that it’s a viable choice for many. They may see removing the possibility of the baby having any life at all as a worse outcome than raising it without a father for example. The father should take into account that abortion may not be an option for her, when deciding whether to use one of those precautions. Condoms are still an option, if you dispose of them in a way where they couldn’t be stolen. Obviously if a woman is stealing a condom to insemina…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 09:06 AM
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Yes, and my comment was giving reasons for why his behaviour is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:17 AM
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The father knows it’s harmful to others to act in the ways he does yet does it anyway. He could have prevented even more suffering by not doing so. He is also part of the decision to have a baby, by having unprotected sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:37 AM
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The options you chose from only implied you know they’re an asshole, not specifically whether they are going to leave for example. Though even if they did both know for certain before she got pregnant, then why is she worse? They both decided to do something that could result in a baby, despite knowing that, and he’s still the one actively deciding to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:06 AM
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Why is that worse than the actual person who is the direct source of the emotional scars? The father may know with 100% certainly they’re going to leave or be abusive from the start, while the mother can’t know for certain. He would also have willingly brought a life into the world, and will be the one deciding for himself to behave whichever way he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:27 PM
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With the situation I gave where her life was in danger I was meaning to imply “threats of violence from an individual person”. By good/bad do you mean you would still feel loved in a relationship in which she is being threatened with social ostracisation otherwise, but not if she had threats of violence against her, or are these all situations in which you wouldn’t actually feel loved but would still accept the relationship? Why is this the limit, and would it make a difference if these threats …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 05:30 PM
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Is there a point at which you wouldn’t feel loved by someone who is being forced to act that way, for example (by increasing force): - she’s acting that way for your money - she’s acting that way due a forced marriage and her culture/religion - she’s acting that way because she is forced to due to an outside factor (e.g. blackmail threats from another person if they find out she stops) - she’s acting that way because her life is actively in danger at any moment she doesn’t act that way
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 05:04 PM
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You said you can’t compete against perfect, by which I assumed you meant the first option was perfect and nothing could compete against it. So you would want a partner just for the things they do for you, but your actual emotions and the fact you don’t really love each other doesn’t matter? Would the benefits just mostly be practical and feeling loved isn’t a requirement for you in a relationship, or do you imagine you would still feel loved despite knowing that they don’t (or may not even like …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:37 PM
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Wouldn’t perfect be someone who behaves like they love you because they actually do, rather than someone who’s lying about their feelings towards you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:17 PM
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Being a beautiful woman and having guys who are interested in you for your looks, rather than as a person, is similar to being a rich man who has women only interested in his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 11:13 PM
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I would assume once someone meets the attractiveness threshold for casual sex, which could just be down to luck in some cases, they could have it without having to build their value even more after each person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:35 AM
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If they got sex the first time, why couldn’t they get it again if nothing else has changed about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:30 PM
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In those examples aren’t they just agreeing he is a creep in both of those moments, rather than changing their opinion based on what benefits them in the moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 09:54 PM
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Not agreeing with the other person, but just because something is someone’s choice, doesn’t mean no one’s allowed to disagree with it, just that they can’t take away that choice from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:37 AM
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Likely because it helps them keep cool, or is supportive and doesn’t get in the way as much during exercise, or they just want to wear things they think they look good in. Why do you think you lose dignity if people can see your body shape in tight clothes, or any parts of your body?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 01:08 PM
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They didn’t say no ones asked, just that they haven’t lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:08 AM
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What determines someone’s value: - Sexual, or romantic attraction from others? - Hypothetical levels of attraction from people they don’t know, or actual levels of attraction from people they do? - Average levels of attraction, or just the maximum? - If average, then of everyone on earth, their culture, their age group, their social group, or what? - Do only those they are mutually attracted to or could form a relationship with count, or everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 08:04 PM
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Should women reject any guy who is interested in her if she thinks they are physically above her league, and how should she know what her own league is? For example should all overweight women reject any non-overweight or tall man who is interested in her? If so, why is the fault on her for not rejecting them, or preferring them to overweight men, rather than on the guys who are interested? If you don’t think there’s a problem with the concept of settling, is there a problem with an average guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 07:16 PM
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In my opinion he would already be seen as attractive by general society/media’s standards, similar to Sylvester Stallone in Rocky for example. I’ve also heard many women specifically say they like Italian guys. Not every individual woman will find him attractive though, as not all are attracted to the same type of guys, but I would say a reasonable percentage would. Many more may also not be specifically attracted to his looks, but will still find him attractive enough to be with if they met and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 04:52 PM
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A lot of lesbian porn will also be performative, doing what looks best for the camera rather than what feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 10:40 AM
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Because from the media they see and opinions they hear from other people, they will already understand that women enjoying sex with lots of people is seen as a bad thing, whereas it is seen as acceptable for men. It is less common for men to seriously be called a slut in a negative way, so they may not take it as seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:40 PM
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Typically whoever is calling someone a slut in a negative way, not the person who feels shameful being called it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:11 AM
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There are different makeup styles, and some guys wear that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:55 AM
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That is why I changed the example from clothes to feminine clothing/lingerie, which we don’t all wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:01 AM
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We aren’t all doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:31 AM
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Then what about specifically feminine clothing or lingerie?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:13 AM
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When people wear clothes, that’s not how they naturally look without clothes, and you don’t know how they’re going to look without their clothes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:56 PM
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People wouldn’t be upset by being called a slut, if the word hadn’t already been given a negative connotation by the people who say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:49 PM
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In your example they gave a reason, which could make it understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:26 PM
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What about someone who has had two long term relationships for example, and waited longer to have sex with both, because it’s something special them. Why should they see having sex with someone new for the first time as less important, just because they’ve now had sex before? Why is the first time so special that only that one is acceptable wait for (for those who aren’t religious)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:30 AM
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I wouldn’t sleep with anyone I’m not in a relationship with. I wouldn’t be interested in a relationship based on looks alone but wouldn’t discount many based on just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:53 PM
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Also sometimes used as a way to make women feel less special about getting attention from men, or to try explain why it’s worse for women to sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:20 PM
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Marriage impacts many things depending on where you’re from: The tax savings could be worth it in comparison to a unmarried family. The father gets automatic parental responsibility. May affect the nationality of your children. Automatic inheritance, and inheritance tax savings. Health/other insurance savings. Better credit/loans. Benefits in retirement. It could make someone feel more secure to become a stay at home parent. Home rights. Able to act as next of kin, and make medical decisions for…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:50 PM
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If it’s a first marriage and you’re 25-34, the failure rates are lower. Also, marrying someone with similar assets/income could be a better standard if you don’t want to suffer financial losses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:30 PM
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I also don’t. At most I know a couple who have a FWB they go back to, rather than getting a new guy each time. The others have only been with boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:36 PM
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I would see a comparison between me and a man in the ability to love each other, my companionship’s value to him, and his attraction to my personality. Your partner has the same ability to leave you for the person they cheated on you with either way. Are you only jealous of the sex, and not the emotional relationship? What if they cheated purely emotionally and had been secretly spending time with someone else telling them how they are so much nicer than you, they prefer being around them to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:08 PM
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What if she cheated with a guy who for some reason permanently couldn’t use his dick for sex, and they just had to use their hands or oral, or if they had a more feminine shaped body too due a hormone imbalance in addition to that for example, or if they had fully transitioned into a woman? At which point would you also see or not see it as a threat? Is it their penis, entire body, or mind which is the threat?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:46 PM
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I would feel the same either way. The upsetting part of cheating is that it shows your partner doesn’t love you as much as you thought they did, and would do something they know breaks your trust in them and could hurt you. That doesn’t change depending on whether they cheated with a man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:03 AM
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I think the betting situation is only unreasonable because you lose money when you don’t win. If you could gamble for free it could still be a reasonable strategy for making money, even if the chances of winning are very small. Losing nothing on a free bet vs losing money would be similar to the situations where someone with high standards is happy with being alone or not. If someone found tall triangular headed men attractive or has a reason for having those standards, they would probably be ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:55 AM
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I didn’t say not to use them, some men may be fine with knowing their potential partners may be more selective, though I personally wouldn’t use them. On dating apps women may also have issues with men only looking for sex for example, so I don’t see why people who do give that advice would say anything different for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:22 AM
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If someone has standards that would exclude every single partner and they wouldn’t be fine with being alone for any period of time, they themselves wouldn’t think they are being unreasonable, but from an outside perspective they are being unreasonable to themselves. I think OPs perspective may be that the outside view doesn’t really matter as they are making a decision that effects themselves, or alternatively that in that specific situation they are being unreasonable but it’s a unrealistic sce…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 10:09 AM
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Bringing more to the table doesn’t imply it has to be something that’s possible to change and wasn’t determined by genetics for example. They just have to bring more to the table than she had alone, not more than they had previously. I meant they don’t want a partner, but would consider it if they met those requirements. If they want a partner but their standards are too high to find any, the standards are only unreasonable to themselves. They still have the choice to lower their standards if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:31 AM
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In those cases making other women jealous and getting their pussy wet is making them happy and improving their life in the way they personally want it to be improved. Aren’t the women that want to do that, or shame “low effort loser men” the type of women you and many men wouldn’t be interested in in the first place, so why would it matter what they’re doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:22 AM
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Lots of men also complain when women are upfront about having height or salary requirements for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:15 AM
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OP is saying that (and anything else) would be a reasonable standard if they don’t even want a partner in the first place, and are happy staying alone if no giant man with a triangular head ever comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 09:11 AM
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I agree, women wouldn’t suddenly start dating and having sex with more men just because there are even more acceptable options. The whole reason a lot of women are selective on dating apps is because they already have too many options and need to come up with a way to narrow them down, as they can’t just talk to and meet up with everyone that meets their standards. They would either just increase their attractiveness requirements, or find something else to quickly filter them by. For the women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:40 AM
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I’ve lived on my own, and was able to cook and clean for myself. Though, how much you could do probably depends on how physical your job is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:18 PM
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Approving of something means you’re ok with them doing it, not that you personally want to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:16 PM
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They were talking about an article they linked, not the post. I didn’t click the article though, just answering what I thought they meant in that comment. Either way, noone’s said physical attraction is not a factor at all. Just that for other studies saying women are happier with taller men for example, there could be correlating factors such as income which influence the result. Though personally in regards to this post, I don’t think there is any evidence the data is representative of all wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:43 AM
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I think their point might have been that some could be attracted to other correlating factors such as income/competence, rather than the height specifically, but they’ll still show up in the data showing a height preference. Rather than that they’re looking for height due to knowing about the correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:10 PM
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According to people from another thread, that’s just because the filter uses a minimum and maximum. So for example if a woman was fine with any of these heights they would be contributing a value to every single column. The fact it starts going down again above 6’5” could show that’s where more women started setting their maximum allowed height.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:00 PM
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I think you can’t choose whether you’re in someone else’s league, only who’s in yours. If you match up, you’re in the same league. By specific interests, I meant for example if someone liked a specific body type or facial characteristics that most people wouldn’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:18 PM
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You don’t know everyone else’s interests, and they’re all different. Maybe a guy that you personally find attractive is very attracted to a woman you find unattractive. If they think dealing with that’s worth the chance of finding someone they find attractive who likes them back, even if it could be a small chance, then what’s wrong with making that decision?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:21 PM
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I think each individual decides who is in their league, and if it includes you you’re in their league. Why should someone else decide whether someone’s in your league, when you could have specific interests that make that person perfect for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:08 PM
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Who gets to decide who’s in whose league? If a woman thinks a guy isn’t in her league, but you think he is, why are you the one who’s right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:36 PM
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The height filter is set as a range with a minimum/maximum, so it seems like at 6’6” they start becoming too tall for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:02 AM
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In general?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:19 AM
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Some may be that way, but that doesn’t mean that’s the case for most women. You may not be able to tell whether there were lasting consequences just from looking, for example loss of bone density.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:55 AM
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Based on my experience there are, it likely depends on the demographic of people you know. If someone only knows a small percentage of women with similar interests, then what they should do probably depends on if they’re trying to attract as many woman as possible in general, or specifically find someone who matches their interests, that they can be themselves with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:04 PM
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Nerdy women will enjoy it. For the ones who don’t it’s the same as how non-nerdy men probably wouldn’t enjoy it, and you might have to try find something else in common to talk about with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:48 PM
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Is it a fairly common occurrence in your interactions with women, or just something that has extremely rarely ever happened but except for that 99% of your interactions are the same as with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:23 PM
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Allowing someone you might not trust to be alone with your valuable belongings or your kids, or to do things which require access to your private information. I’m not backing away from it, I’m saying in some cases they will save money, some cases they won’t but they will still see it as beneficial for their kids for example, some cases the housework will be even harder than the partner’s job, sometimes it will be easy but they want to provide that lifestyle for their partner and they’ll still be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:48 PM
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Money also isn’t the only benefit, some tasks you may not want or be able to get other people to do for you for example. Couples can decide for themselves whether they save money and if it is preferable, in some they will. In some cases where they might not be saving money or the stay at home parent will have less work, the other parent may see that as a positive and love the fact they are giving that to their partner. Single income marriages are a minority anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:21 PM
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It is work, but your time isn’t paid for in money but in the tasks you want done being completed. We are talking about a situation where the whole reason one person isn’t working is so that these tasks can be done without paying money for it. If they instead wanted to pay other people to do all of the housework and childcare, while both parents work they could, but that might cost even more money than they’d be earning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:44 AM
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Depends on the job. I’d much rather do an hour of my job, instead of an hour doing the dishes, washing, changing the bed sheets, cooking a meal or tidying up for example. I find computer-based tasks easier and more enjoyable than tedious manual tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:07 AM
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She won’t be making any money back if she orders food, since the “pay” she gets for her time is the food / clean house etc, not money. She might be able to get more housework done if she ordered food, but there would still be less money left at the end of the month, not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:57 AM
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That’s often more for the benefit of the person doing the touching, than the person being touched. Though, I do agree it’s possible to learn where the clit is, how to use your hands or perform oral, positions and many other tips from the internet too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:27 PM
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There are still differences between lesbian and straight women, male-male and female-female relationships, and also how the relationships are treated by outside influences, so you you can’t say for sure that the increase in divorce rates is caused by something that also applies to straight women. Though, even if women in general are less satisfied by marriage or have a lower tolerance for staying in marriages, then being educated would just be something that allows them to act on that more easil…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 12:11 PM
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No they don’t. Just because aggression may make you do something harder, doesn’t mean that the only reason to ever do something harder is aggression. When you use a firmer grip or rub faster when masturbating, is it because the physical feeling is better that way or because aggression turns you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:13 AM
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The definition of rough sex isn’t “rougher than soft sex”. It involves aggression and sometimes pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:53 PM
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Why apply small personal interactions you’ve had with women to every other woman? You’ve likely seen women debating on Reddit that you can’t even tell are women. There are many of both men and women who can and can’t do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:19 AM
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Because a woman wants to make and keep their own money? Many men here seem to want that too, with not wanting to pay for dates and wanting prenups or to not get married for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:48 AM
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What if they cheat with members of the same sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:46 PM
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I didn’t imply that they were real people. It’s fine if you don’t want people to find you cute, others are still going to find people cute and be fine with being found cute. I was just responding to the question of why someone would want a cute man. Also, it’s possible to be cute and masculine. I think when a woman finds a guy genuinely cute, it usually isn’t because they look feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 04:31 PM
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Men don’t all like the same cute kind of woman either. Some might want a sexy glamorous woman to seduce them, or a tall muscly one to dominate them. One man could like many different types of women for different reasons, like women can. People are all different too, most people don’t look like the pictures you linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:31 AM
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Some people may use it sarcastically, in a similar way to saying you’re their friend (and nothing more), or to imply that a guy isn’t stereotypically hot/handsome/masculine. Though, a guy being genuinely cute is a good thing, it gives you the urge to kiss, cuddle and love them. Do you not get that feeling when a woman is cute? It’s the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:57 PM
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Well there’s nothing you can do to change the percentage, it’s just an existing fact (though I don’t think your figures are correct), and it’s still not impossible to find one. Though, doesn’t wanting a bigger selection of virgins also indicate you would want many women to desire you so you have more choice and opportunities to find one? (Note: This is a shortcut to where I was going to go with this point, but I’ve since seen that you don’t actually agree with the point you made in the post anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:23 PM
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Why have you asked this to two women with this opinion, what would it change about your response?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:06 PM
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If that was your post title, more people would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:03 PM
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Why do you care if apparently most women have had 5 boyfriends when their desire doesn’t matter to you, if virgins still exist and you only want one of them to desire you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:00 PM
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It seems like your only point is that men care more than women about whether their partners are virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:46 PM
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Then why do guys here care so much about what the average or majority of women find attractive? If men only want one woman to find them attractive, then why not just try to find that one woman (who may not align with the average)?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:24 PM
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In some relationships sex is more important than others. Just because not having something can cause a negative effect on some relationships, doesn’t mean it’s a universal need. Some relationships would fail if they weren’t physically attracted to their partner, so is being physically attractive a human need? It is a benefit that many people want, but they will survive without it even if the relationship doesn’t. Also, not being able to switch off a want doesn’t make it a need. Is alcohol a need…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:07 PM
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It could be a long term relationship where not having sex could have a detrimental effect on the relationship, and birth control failed. They could have been trying for a baby but circumstances changed. They could have been raped. People don’t only have abortions due to casual sex, and not everyone who gets pregnant in a committed relationship will want to keep the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:38 PM
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Yes, also many people will likely perceive having the same points of view on many topics as intelligence (since your point of view is the correct one to you). Also, even as a software engineer I don’t care if my partner has coding knowledge, but enjoy them at least showing interest in it. Good general knowledge is better than niche knowledge. For example knowing about different countries, historical/current events, interest in learning/reading/documentaries/museums/etc, and being able to easily …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:47 PM
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Either 2 or 3 depending on which of those thought processes he personally aligns with. The description of his mixed feelings indicates that 2 is most likely what he agrees with, so would be the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:43 PM
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Personally I don’t like it when they have never met or spoken to me before and ask for my number based on looks alone. It makes me feel like they don’t even know anything about me, so how could they be interested, or what if they’ve made wrong assumptions of me? I wouldn’t be interested in a random guy I saw in the street that I’ve never spoken to before, based on appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:09 AM
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I was mainly wondering if you thought it was wrong for them to have the exact same preselection standards that you mentioned you are now using, or whether you now use any other standards yourself that you thought were wrong of them to use (for example this relationship criteria).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:29 PM
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I don’t think it’s wrong, just that a relationship based on physical characteristics may not be as strong, so I would rather avoid it. For example, if you suddenly wanted to be with someone who didn’t need their wheelchair anymore, it could indicate you’re more likely to leave them if they needed it again in the future, and that your personal connection with that person isn’t as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:20 PM
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That isn’t really a standard like salary or job requirements that you said you were employing back at them though. That’s a separate issue with inconsistency in how quickly they move in different relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:09 PM
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Do you mean consistent across the whole gender, or just the same person? Were the women with those guys the same ones that had those standards (but were being flexible with them)?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:47 PM
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I wouldn’t get angry, but personally still wouldn’t want to be with someone who’s attraction to me is that strongly based on physical characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:19 PM
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Do you think the standards that were used against you were wrong, or do you now see them as good standards for anyone that’s able to use them (like you) to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:12 PM
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It’s possible to not often find random people instantly sexually attractive, but to have a normal libido when masturbating or with a partner that you find sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:32 PM
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How is thrusting a “little harder and deeper” rough sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:26 AM
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What even counts as dominant, just fucking hard? If she asked for it and you’re following what she says, why is it dominant? They could just enjoy the actual physical feeling because it’s giving faster more intense stimulation than going slowly, rather than being dominated. Masturbating quickly will make you cum faster than slowly, and it’s nothing to do with domination. Why does going hard mean it’s not loving, if you’re just trying to make your partner feel good? If by dominant you mean degrad…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:45 PM
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Then don’t use tinder? It’s not the same as real life. Maybe if we isolated 20 women and 80 men who were just looking for sex on an island together, and they weren’t allowed to talk to each other before deciding who they like, then the women would be more picky on physical characteristics and the men would be less so too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:46 PM
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We all have different tastes. You find those guys attractive, some women won’t find them attractive. There may be some people that a higher percentage of people find more attractive, but does that really mean they are “objectively” attractive? Just because more people find them attractive, doesn’t mean that everyone else does or should too. There may be certain features that more people agree on being attractive, but throughout history those have changed, and there will always be those who disag…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:17 AM
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Which romance novels have you read that contain penis measurements?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:38 PM
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Are you sure she didn’t mean centimetres?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 10:35 PM
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OP isn’t saying none recover quickly, just that sometimes they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 02:11 PM
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It’s still better than nothing and can give a guideline. What data was contradictory? And read what part of the argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 04:41 PM
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Not sure what “felt the need to me when you responded” means. The statistics were good enough for the CDC website so they’re good enough for a short Reddit comment as I’m late to bed, which isn’t going to have much impact on anything if the values are off by a small amount. What better methods have been carried out to study numbers of sexual partners other than self-reports, and were the results much different? He never gave any sources, he just made the statement Average number of body count in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:41 AM
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You were claiming that all sex outside of marriage is casual, so that’s the point I was arguing against. Assuming that your numbers are correct, since we don’t have definite figures. Over a whole lifetime it’s possible all 7 of those failed relationships could have been long term relationships where they agreed to be monogamous and she expected to stay together but her partner left her or did something bad enough to warrant leaving. That’s not really that extreme of a situation. I am arguing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:20 PM
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Discussions on Reddit are just entertainment for me, I am just responding while relaxing for bed or getting bored during work. I haven’t even claimed his point is definitely wrong, just quoted studies and provided reasons why his evidence isn’t strong. I have provided more sources than him, and he has made definite claims with no evidence that they aren’t just based off his experience, so not sure why you think I’m the one who is apparently doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:10 PM
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Being married doesn’t make you any less likely to fuck other people than just being in any other monogamous relationship. Some people even have open marriages. What if a couple get married and have sex and the husband cheats and leaves her even though she was going to follow the vows, so after a while she married someone else. Does the first partner count as lust and casual sex? Situations like that are counted in sexual partner counts. What if an unmarried couple just makes vows between each ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:56 PM
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I wasn’t that invested either that’s why I just used the first results I found that looked to be from an official source instead of doing a literature review like you seem to expect me to do for just a Reddit comment. I also tried find what percentage of women have casual sex since I wondered if it was true, but couldn’t find any to show the vast majority do from the first couple results so assumed it would be able simple to ask evidence from those making the claim. The personal experience is an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 10:45 PM
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So if that couple you linked weren’t married but had been together a long time and acted like that, it would still just be lust and casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:21 PM
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They were the first results that came up from a quick Google search since he (and you) didn’t provide a source when I asked if he had one. Either way it’s more evidence than has been provided to show otherwise. I also wouldn’t care if the vast majority of women do engage in casual sex, and provided reasons why they may do so if that is the case. It just doesn’t seem likely from my personal experience and I haven’t seen a source, so wondered if there was evidence for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:05 PM
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There are unmarried asexual couples, long distance couples, people who are unable to have sex due to medical reasons in relationships, etc. Why would they be together if unmarried relationships are purely about sex? If that is the case, then what is different about marriage that suddenly makes it not about sex? Nothing really changes except now you wear a ring, have some laws about your assets and rights in regards to each other, have to divorce to end it, and can call each other husband/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:35 PM
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Just because something can change doesn’t mean that it’s definitely going to or even likely that it will. Even that couple’s love could change, if one of them found out the other was secretly a serial killer or something, that wouldn’t mean it was actually just lust the whole time. There could also be couples that stay together like that and aren’t even married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 04:13 PM
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Most also don’t believe loving someone means that you have to stay with them forever even if they do something wrong. Love isn’t permanent and can change over time. Being married doesn’t change that either, it just makes it a bit harder to separate if you stop loving each other. Even if you disagree, that is the reasoning for why people do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:40 PM
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It seems you weren’t basing your arguments on the real definition of casual sex then, but pre-marital sex. The reason people do that is because not everyone is religious, and most people believe you can love someone without being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:27 PM
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Your question was But most women do engage in casual sex and little to no women are virgin by choice. Why is that? Only 6% orgasm every time yet vast majority engages in casual sex. So if you are defining casual sex as any single time you have sex before marriage, including relationships, then the reasoning is that many will do it because they value the relationship not just the sex. Also, they may orgasm through other ways than intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:21 PM
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Sex in a romantic relationship with someone you love is not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:14 PM
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Not being a virgin before marriage isn’t proof they all had casual sex. It could be from a previous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:02 PM
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Do you think 7 over a lifetime means they had casual sex and enjoyed it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:57 PM
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Do you have a good source to show the vast majority of women engage in casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:53 AM
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Why does the median need to completely line up? They could be having sex with people outside of the age rage, and distributions can have the same total count but different medians. For example the median of 1 2 3 4 5 is 3, and of 1 2 2 5 5 is 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:44 AM
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It seems almost half of women from 25-49 have 4 or less (80% 9 or less), with the median being 4.3 from here. Though, that is including a high age range so the higher numbers may still be due to long term relationships. A finer age breakdown from an older CDC study quoted here looks like the majority had 4 or less for each age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:19 AM
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Do you have a source that the vast majority of women engage in casual sex? Some reasons could be that they still orgasm during the casual sex but not through intercourse specifically, or some may enjoy the feeling despite not orgasming, some may try it out a couple times before realising they don’t enjoy it and stopping, some may be aiming for a relationship rather than just hookups but it still turns out that way, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:58 AM
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Women who don’t enjoy it or orgasm likely don’t constantly engage in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:38 AM
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Group averages aren’t very useful on an individual scale. If you know someone personally, you’ll understand them more by their specific actions. There are a huge variety of people, only a very small percentage will completely align with the statistical most probable description of their behaviours. If the average person prefers blue eyes for example are you going to take any actions based on that or feel upset about not matching that or complain about the statistical preference, when the person …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 01:09 AM
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Do you have evidence that every single man has a greater sexual desire for variety than every single woman? Or that every single woman marries up or gets pregnant etc? What should happen in the cases where these things don’t apply? Why does there need to be a blanket rule for everyone, instead of people choosing based on their particular relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:45 PM
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From what I can see, the first thing you linked sounds like they just gave 15 minutes more to everyone, what’s wrong with that? Also, what’s “hardly surprising”, and why? Also, saying something is caused by patriarchy doesn’t mean it’s their fault. It’s means it’s caused by societies unequal expectations for genders, for example men being more expected to provide or less expected to show their emotions. It also doesn’t mean that it’s not a problem or nothing should be done about it. The homeless…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:29 PM
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Most women aren’t on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:16 AM
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What if their standards are so high that they’d never find a partner, and they would be even less content with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:35 AM
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I don’t think being single is a big enough issue in regards to suicide etc to warrant modification of women’s biology as the solution. Especially not as the first step. Also, how far would we go with these modifications? For example, should we start modifying peoples brains so they accept minorities rather than getting people to be more accepting though other means? Or modify men so they give birth or have more motherly instincts and play a bigger role in childcare, instead of just improving pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:27 PM
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If you are talking about genetically modifying women so they would accept more men, why not just genetically modify men so they don’t get depressed instead? I would expect that could even be an easier modification to make, and have a wider beneficial impact. Being provided with the things you need to survive doesn’t mean being forced to survive. You can still choose not to make use of what you have been provided. Currently we haven’t even completed this first stage for everyone. Even if it’s not…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:38 AM
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If at some point at the future, everyone is provided with every single thing they want, then I don’t think anyone would have an issue with providing single men robot partners. It’s just not one of the highest priorities, or something that’s going to be happening anytime soon. The first priority would be to provide people with what they need to stay alive, then what they need to stay alive healthily/comfortably, then to stay alive happily, and then to have every single desire fulfilled. We are to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:04 AM
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Why is women being forced to be with men they don’t like better than having some men (and women) without partners? Having a partner is not a need, just a desire. Should everyone just be provided with every single thing they want? What about the women who want to not be forced into partnerships? Why is mens desire for partners more important than that? Either way, my point was that women will be open to partnerships with a lot more men than just the ones they are initially attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:43 AM
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Why is being instantly attracted to most people you see inherently better than only being instantly attracted to a few, if you still manage to find a partner easily? Only instantly being interested in getting to know a few doesn’t mean the others have no chance if they were the ones to purse it. Many here are saying they have to get to know someone before the attraction builds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 09:42 AM
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Apparently there’s a 90% chance you won’t be ruled out, you’d just have to be the one to pursue something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 08:14 AM
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I think they are just truthfully answering the question which is being asked. It does seem likely to be due to some difference between men and women. It could be due to women not typically being the ones who go out of their way to initiate and get to know someone, so there are fewer men who would make them want to do that. Women could also be more cautious of men they don’t know, which could make them less likely to even consider being interested based just on looks alone. Men may be more likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 08:25 PM
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I personally haven’t seen that on this post or previous posts asking the same thing. Responses typically say they are only attracted to a small percentage based on looks alone, but that doesn’t imply anything bad about the rest like they are ugly/unattractive or would be instantly rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:34 PM
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According to who? The options aren’t just attractive or unattractive, there’s a neutral range between those two extremes, and attraction can build over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:06 PM
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Yes, I think not many women will fully rule out many men based on looks alone, but other factors such as being uncomfortable going on a date with someone you just met, being asked inappropriately, or being forced to be more selective due to getting asked out too regularly could end up ruling out more depending on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:58 PM
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Not being instantly attracted to someone and wanting to get to know them based purely on looks doesn’t mean you find them unattractive. It doesn’t mean you wouldn’t be open to getting to know people and become interested in those you weren’t instantly interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:55 PM
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I do not think this is a major exception. Not many would be ruled out based purely on looks, but once you start adding in other factors the percentage goes down. These other factors could include being “smooth and experienced” for those you’ve spoken to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:52 PM
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Same for me, I’ve never felt interested in someone just by looking at them, I’d have to have coincidentally gotten to know them first already. Then the more I like them as a person, the more I’ll like looking at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:19 PM
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Why do you think my definition is different?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:47 PM
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If cheating isn’t betrayal as long as your partner doesn’t find out, how comes having someone else’s kid without your partner finding out is? They’re both betrayal either way, you can be betrayed without ever finding out about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:02 PM
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If your main experience of this is through discussions here, men may be likely to agree with negative aspects about them which follow red pill ideology, since the overall conclusion of that is typically more positive towards men than women. It’s also possible that women who disagree or are outliers are more likely to actually be here and participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:58 PM
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So casual sex can also be available to those who lower their standards sometimes, rather than just having no standards in general? What percentage have causal sex over their lifetime? I haven’t seen a good study on that, but I would say even if it’s only 10% that haven’t, that isn’t that uncommon. Especially for those who are particularly interested in and looking for for women who seem like they are the type who wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:32 PM
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Would you say you have no standards then, since you haven’t described yourself as being in the top 20%? Personally, I would be less interested in a relationship with a guy who has casual sex, but also wouldn’t have casual sex myself. Which I don’t think is that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:27 PM
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Yes, though I don’t think being unattractive with low standards automatically makes you deluded. If those people with naturally different standards exist and aren’t deluded, then wouldn’t some of them happen to also be conventionally unattractive themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:15 PM
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Oh I didn’t take “bonding experience” to exclude the possibility of casual sex, just that the attraction would feel different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:47 PM
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Is someone who is naturally attracted to people that most people would find unattractive not deluded, if they have the ability to get more conventionally attractive partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:39 PM
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How does it give an explanation for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:14 PM
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How do you measure attractiveness? If it is measured my how many of the opposite sex you attract, then how could a man and woman with different number/quality of options be said to have the same level of attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:19 PM
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I didn’t assume there was going to be any discussion, I was just pointing out that some people like submissive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 10:39 PM
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My first reply was the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:32 PM
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Because they exist, I am one, so your statement isn’t true for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 06:42 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:21 PM
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Yes I believe they can. I can, and I don’t think there’s that huge of a difference between our brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:31 PM
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Not for dom women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:46 AM
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Different people grow up with different influences and different levels of susceptibility to influence. I think as long as both people in a relationship have the same expectations and are happy about it, then it is ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:32 PM
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It’s not been that many generations since traditional relationships were the norm, and it wasn’t an instant change where all relationships from that point onwards suddenly became non-traditional. A good percentage of 20-30 year olds’ parents’ relationships would have more traditional dynamics, and some may grow up seeing that and also expect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:59 PM
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Yes, it likely depends a lot person to person, I’m about 20 BMI at the moment which is the highest I’ve been, and I think I’ve gone very slightly over where I look best. Though, his bra size requirements aimed to ensure they’re still curvy. It could be rare to fit his requirements, but I assume that was the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 01:06 AM
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What about it is wrong? Here is an explanation with illustrations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 09:59 PM
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Well, it’s just a rough guide for this fake requirement. There are healthy people below 20 BMI, even though there may be some exceptions. The whole point is to make a requirement with similar high standards as stated by the OP anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:02 PM
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BMI takes into account height. Typically for adults the healthy range is 18.5 to 24.9, it can be higher if you have a lot of muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:45 PM
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It is in the healthy range.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:40 PM
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Yes, just the 40 refers to the circumference of the ribs below the breasts, whereas the letter would indicate cup size. Someone who is thin with big boobs would have a smaller number and bigger letter in their bra size.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 05:16 PM
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I think most people wouldn’t enjoy being in a relationship with someone who doesn’t act like they love them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:45 AM
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Likely referring to you believing all black women have masculine personalities just from looking at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:45 AM
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Someone with that requirement could love sex more and have more sex with a partner they love than someone who doesn’t have that requirement. It’s not about how much they like/love it, just who they do it with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:23 PM
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You can see no shame in sex and think it’s beautiful, but still see it as something that should be saved for a long term relationship with someone you love.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:18 PM
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I think people are all different. Not everyone behaves exactly the same way to the same situation. Some women may usually easily orgasm multiple times each time they have sex, and not like that their new partner doesn’t try make her, so they leave him. Some may prefer their partner to just focus on themselves in this in this situation, since they don’t need any help. Some women may find it difficult to orgasm and their partners makes too big of a deal trying to get them to when they can’t, so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:16 PM
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Are you saying a chad is the dream husband, but not the dream father? Why would someone dream of their husband being aggressive? Also, men aren’t just completely split into categories where some are completely submissive in every situation and some are completely dominant in every situation. Just because a guy could be confident and assertive at work for example, doesn’t mean he can’t also be caring and not aggressive towards children. Just because a guy could be quiet and submissive towards oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 12:52 PM
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I think most women who want to get married and have children want those things to happen with the same man, not two different ones. Why can’t the dream partner be both a good husband and father?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:41 PM
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If it was something caused by something deeply rooted in the human brain, then wouldn’t you expect these behaviours to be the norm rather than just fetishes for small groups of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 10:00 PM
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I think only a small minority of women even know what FDS is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:35 PM
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Yes, also people aren’t black and white. We can be confident and assertive in some situations but not in others, emotionally vulnerable occasionally, different people measure success and wealth differently, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 12:31 AM
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Yes, you can get a no-fault divorce and find someone else. Glad we agree too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:36 PM
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Accepted by the average/majority of monogamous people. Unless you have explicitly discussed whether something is allowed, you assume they align with the majority or ask. It is also a law that you can’t make someone have sex with you if they don’t want to. Both of you can decide you don’t want to have sex for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:17 PM
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Yes but it’s not comparable to not wanting to have sex when you aren’t in the mood for it. The typically accepted order of these things in a monogamous relationship is stop having sex, separate, and then sleep with someone else. It’s not typically assumed that you have to have sex every time either one of you wants it, but it’s assumed that you shouldn’t cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 08:21 PM
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She’s allowed to decide when she doesn’t want to have sex with him. He’s allowed to leave her if she doesn’t have sex with him. Why should the first option be to cheat? It’s the same if the genders were reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 07:51 PM
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Not having sex with your partner and cheating on them are two different things. The issue with cheating is that you could have separated first. You don’t need to separate first before being allowed to turn down sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 07:08 PM
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Even if they know they’re being an asshole, they’ll at least find out what the consequences are and might learn from it. Some might not realise it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:11 PM
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Upsetting their partner by acting immature, is how they learn not to act that way. If no one ever disliked how they acted or left them, why would they change?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 02:38 PM
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If a woman is able to get attention then I don’t think she can be called unattractive. Maybe it’s just less common for women to actually be unattractive, even if the attraction is caused by guys being thirsty for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:24 AM
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Those women probably aren’t completely unattractive then if they get that attention, they just aren’t to you. There are definitely women who are unattractive enough they wouldn’t get positive attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 02:58 AM
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It can happen to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:00 AM
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The abuse could have made her feel like she couldn’t, or that it was her fault not his so she didn’t want to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:57 AM
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Some people have lower bare minimums than others. Some people feel trapped in their abusive relationships even if their partner isn’t attractive or high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:13 AM
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They are likely different people with different opinions saying different things. Women aren’t all just clones of each other with the exact same thoughts. If it’s the same person then that particular person might be hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:04 PM
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They might be really good partners and have attractive personalities, why do you think they should only care about looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:07 PM
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I think everyone’s a sliding scale of different traits, not just one or the other, and it can change based on the situation. Just because a guy gets into lots of fights doesn’t mean he can’t have a family at home that he loves and treats well. Just because a guy seems nice and quiet in public doesn’t mean he can’t be abusive in his relationship. A guy can be cocky and outgoing and occasionally say things that seem rude, but then another could regularly be thinking worse things in his head. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:20 AM
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That appears to be evidence that self-reporting can be inaccurate, rather than what I asked. Unless there’s a specific part you can point me towards. Though, I have previously seen studies showing average reported partners depending on anonymity but it only changes by a few people. It does change a bit but I don’t think there’s evidence the true number could be in the 20s or something. If you’re saying women underestimate and men overestimate, we would need the reported number split by gender an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:45 PM
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What non self-reported evidence do you have to say it is a lot higher?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:18 PM
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I haven’t, and don’t think it’s that rare not to. Those who haven’t are probably more likely to be reserved, so you hear about it less.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:14 PM
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What about people who are in long term relationships with the person they lost their virginity to? Also, how does the guy moving on mean that he’s attractive at all? You think every attractive person is always aiming to get the most attractive partner and move on whenever they find someone better, and everyone else just takes whatever they can get and never leaves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:49 PM
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I have met a lot of people through my STEM education/work, so my personal bell curve may be biased towards logical people overall. Though, I would say if there’s a chance that the woman you’re talking to could be much more logical than the average guy, why is it useful to assume otherwise before you find out? In your experience, in what ways do you think the majority of women act to show they are ruled by emotion rather than logic? For me, men have been more likely to show their emotions of jeal…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:22 AM
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I agree there will be different logic/emotion bell curves between genders, but I personally don’t believe the differences are very large or noticeable in practice. At least not enough to be worth putting to daily use assuming how people will act based on only their gender. Also, I have met many logical women, so I don’t think individual experiences can be applied to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:12 PM
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Same for me, should my biology have made that impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 10:27 PM
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Not sure why you’ve assumed how many I think would be large enough, that it’s wrong, and that I’ve never taken a statistics class. I have a physics masters and work an ML role, which both involve statistics. The sample size of this post was only 20, and I was answering at which point “this ends”. The main issue would be sampling bias, size is still relevant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 04:49 PM
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Either way, most women don’t use dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:49 PM
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It’s a study of how women who use dating apps behave on dating apps (maybe towards a similar sample of men who use dating apps), rather than a truly random sample of women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:15 PM
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A large enough study which samples the general population, rather than just dating app users, would be preferable. Not saying it can’t be done, just that a few screenshots aren’t really proof of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:23 PM
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That’s nothing like what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:11 PM
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This is like making a compilation of 20 posts of guys saying they want to rape and murder women and acting like it disproves claims that not all men are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:24 PM
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You probably already have, but assume that the majority that you don’t have evidence of acting this way are the same as the few you may have evidence for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:00 PM
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Then it’s the specific type of fangirl women. I personally have never seen a woman I know throw themselves at a guy just for being rich or famous. Also, if they are the type to fangirl over famous guys, it’s possible to grow out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:19 PM
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It’s like saying you can be an incel without having negative beliefs towards women. You wouldn’t call yourself an incel, if you don’t want to be associated with those beliefs. You aren’t an incel, you just haven’t been able to have sex yet. In the same way, you can read and interpret these papers and psychology without associating yourself with the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:09 PM
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Even if they don’t ever actually cheat on you? You’d prefer to be single your whole life than risk any possibility that the partner that makes your life a lot happier could ever cheat on you? Even though it’s bad, being cheated on isn’t the end of the world. You can still just leave them and find someone else. I think the happiness of spending your life with someone you love is worth opening yourself up to that small risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:19 PM
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Some people have self-control.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:49 PM
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You think there’s no point in a relationship if there’s even one fictional scenario in which they might cheat on you, even if it would never actually happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:33 PM
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By right circumstances, do you mean just variations of someone you’re attracted to you coming on to you, or it includes any situation like being forced to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:24 PM
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I replied to you saying that everyone’s partner would leave in the right circumstances, which I don’t see an issue with. Why should you stay with a partner that you don’t want to be with, no matter the reason? Also, why is the gender ratio relevant to your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:19 PM
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What’s wrong with that? Should you stay with your partner no matter what, even if they cheat or abuse you or become a serial killer and murder your family?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 07:03 PM
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Maybe your writing was unclear if people can’t understand it. Anyway you’re saying that they were now, so why does it matter whether you think that comment clearly stated it? Then at what age do you think girls become women and every one is “whoring it up”? Some don’t even have any casual sex in their lifetimes, so why would it be useful to still assume they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 08:18 AM
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im gonna assume every woman is whoring it up
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:52 PM
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You haven’t dismantled my point. Your only argument is that I’m apparently lying, which I’m not. Just saying I’m defending FDS doesn’t disprove anything I said at all either. I don’t follow or even know that much about FDS, you’re the one who’s claiming to be the expert on how evil they are. I never claimed anything about FDS in general, the only point I’ve made is that you don’t understand that post you linked. You can go back to reading through their posts searching for anything to get offende…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:42 AM
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No one would seriously believe that evolution would do anything over time periods that they would even care about. They’re literally just telling a story with the moral “the choices you make can have an impact”, and implying that FDS advice of having high standards could improve the average standard of men. You’ve been going on for too long without getting it, or making any new points, so I don’t see any point in carrying on. Unless you make any new points I haven’t already replied to and I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:59 AM
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Ok, well I’ve explained what that post actually means and you’re repeatedly refusing to understand even though it’s really not that complicated. I guess there’s no point explaining it even clearer for you if you’ve already decided you’ll never change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:41 AM
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I agree too, though I do think that women asking out men is already quite commonly discussed and encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:35 AM
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If a guy can get into a relationship after paying for a date, then I would say he most likely would still be able to get one if he split the bill or went on a date which didn’t require any payment. He could possibly come across a few women who would lose interest, but not everyone requires it. The fact expecting a women to ask you out could be too high of a standard for some, doesn’t really mean that some women shouldn’t be allowed to have the standard of being paid for if they’re asked out. Yes…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:18 PM
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Don’t date them if you don’t like their expectations. It’s not their fault that some guys are willing to pay, when they’re the ones who have decided how expensive the place they’re going to for their date is going to be. It’s also not rare for women to split the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:11 PM
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It’s not having as big of an effect as you think. You’re not changing anyone’s opinions. You’re likely posting it in places such as here where there’s a higher proportion of people who already hate FDS/women in general, and will agree with you without much thinking. Many others, who didn’t have those previous biases and have actually read and understand the post have replied and disagree with you. Anyway, I wasn’t even defending FDS in general, just saying that post in particular does not mean w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 01:22 PM
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Well I’m just saying you can easily find incel posts of guys saying they want to rape underage girls for example. This bird post seems to outrage you and make you think that they are evil, when it doesn’t even come close to that. I’ve only been defending this specific post, which I think you are taking too literally, and doesn’t mean what you think it does. You could have found a better example if you want to show people that they are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:25 AM
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Just because you think a standard could be too high, doesn’t mean people aren’t allowed to have it. I didn’t say it was a good standard to have, just I don’t see an issue with some people having high standards. Women would have the right to not date you if they think your standards are too high, and you have the same right towards them. You can decide to lower your standards if you aren’t finding anyone who can meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:16 AM
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I genuinely believe you’ve misunderstood the post. Saying I’m trying to gaslight you just because I disagree with you is a bit dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 09:11 AM
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Some women can want to plan it (and the guy can want her to pay), and other women can want the guy to pay. Just don’t date the women who would want you to pay if you don’t want to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:56 AM
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I have said that out of the options of being evil or wrong, their post would be wrong. You’re trying to argue it’s evil, by not understanding it and taking it literally. Also, it’s kind of worrying that you think the only way to prevent men from raping is to get rid of their dicks. They haven’t even suggested they’re going to stop all rape by doing that, even the birds didn’t stop it all. They are only implying that your choices can have an affect how others behave. I’m abusing you and making yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 08:35 AM
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It seems like you just have trouble understanding metaphors, hyperboles and sarcasm. It’s pretty obvious to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:03 AM
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Out of those two choices you’ve given, it would be that they are stupid, since they are hoping to change men’s behaviour not genitalia. In that case, I don’t see why you’re making such a big deal about some “stupid” people who think maybe guys would be nicer if they learn that behaving aggressively doesn’t get them women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:51 AM
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No they aren’t, you just didn’t understand the metaphor, which I explained to you. No one said it’s a biological problem, no one would logically expect evolution to actually do anything, it’s just a metaphor. If anyone didn’t get that, and seriously think that evolution would do anything, they’re the stupid ones. I also don’t think it’s hateful to just think that not giving bad guys what they want may lead them to consciously change their behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:16 AM
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How do good guys get negatively affected by women not dating bad guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 01:50 AM
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The post is literally just a metaphor suggesting that if you don’t date the bad guys they might change their ways. They aren’t saying they want guys to evolve to have no dicks, just to behave better, analogous to how the birds became gentler.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 01:41 AM
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I do, but I’d only have sex with someone I’m in a romantic relationship with in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:28 AM
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Idk about all you guys but I definitely want to fuck the person I love.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:19 AM
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What is the difference between arousal and attraction for women then? Are they not attracted to the hot guys they are apparently “getting wet” from? Does every man get aroused by every single trait they are attracted to, and every woman doesn’t? In relationships where the women love their partners and enjoy sex with them, are they attracted to or aroused by them? What evidence are you basing these claims on?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:44 PM
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You must not know many women, if every one you know is the same. Also, are they not attracted to those guys, if as you’ve said “all women are fundamentally wired where arousal and attraction are two different things”?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 11:53 AM
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Do you have any evidence that all or even just the vast majority of women do this, other than that’s what your wife did, and maybe a few other people you know or online have said it? What is your description of an alpha man and beta man? I am sexually attracted to my boyfriend, would you be certain he doesn’t have beta characteristics? Also, what do you think you can definitely claim about me and all other women? My point is just that you can’t say these things for certain about everyone. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 11:40 PM
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What evidence do you have that women “dismantle a congruity using extremes on the bell curve” much more often than men? It’s much more likely you just used the fact I disagree with you and am arguing in favour of women being individuals, or my profile. The only point I’ve made is that not all women are the same. I was purposely going to extremes to make that point. I never claimed all men or women do any of these things, like you have with some of your claims. If even one husband has a wife with…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:07 PM
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Not all married men have heard that. Not all men want regular sex. Some women have higher sex drives than their husbands. Attraction and arousal aren’t two different things for many women. Some women enjoy pegging their husband while he wears a bra and wig and calls her mummy. Is that alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 09:12 PM
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Not every woman in the world is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:01 PM
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“If playing video games isn’t important why do some people play video games so much? Why are some gamers praised for their gaming achievements? A lot of video games are sold each year, so apparently they are important to our society.” You could replace this with lots of things that people like. Some people enjoying something doesn’t give you an indication of how important it is overall, just that those people may find it important.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:27 AM
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What is your definition of important? People can survive without sex, but not without food. If your definition of important is it being necessary, then it is less important than food. Why does talking about famous people cheating, or some people wanting to have sex with famous people mean sex is important? Just talking about or wanting to do something may not necessarily mean it is important. Some people would leave a relationship if they didn’t have sex enough, some wouldn’t care and find mastu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 12:41 AM
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You were the one who bought up the study you provided, not me. Some studies have had 10s of thousands of participants, and different studies with different random samples have returned similar results. I would feel more inclined to trust those than your personal experience. Even if they may not be completely representative of the nation either. I’m not trying to prove your experience is false, just either way it doesn’t imply much about averages of the wider population. I don’t personally know a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:45 PM
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How have I held you to a higher standard? You haven’t even given the exact number of counts you know, but I wouldn’t assume it’s enough to be statistically significant, and it seems to be quite a specific demographic. There is also no evidence that what you’re saying is actually true. I wouldn’t say a study which did the same thing could be used to make assumptions for the rest of the population either. I wouldn’t even apply the study you’re quoting to every single woman, they only asked like 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:12 AM
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You can’t even say it’s the average of people around you, because you don’t know everyone around you. It’s just the average of the people you know. Just knowing a few people with high counts doesn’t imply anything about anyone else just because they have the same gender. Not sure what you mean by your last sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:58 PM
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Just because you know people with high counts doesn’t mean that’s the average. There are many guys who have double digits and more too, does that mean the average guy has slept with that many? Do you think there are no virgin women since you apparently don’t know any personally? What does the change being 50% affect? An average 50% change being equal to a numeric change of 1-2, indicates the average number of partners is in the single digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:26 PM
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Seems like you were talking to a demographic that has higher than average numbers then. Those who drink/party and talk to people they don’t know well about sex, might have higher counts. You likely didn’t talk to a varied enough group to be able to apply it to all women. They’ve shown it changes by 1 or 2, not into the double digits. Plus, if you think they’re lying that much, why do you trust what a few have told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:18 PM
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The numbers you have seen how? More sexually outgoing women are probably more likely to be talking to you about that stuff too. I went to uni and I’ve only been with my boyfriend, but I can’t imagine ever telling a random guy that in casual conversation. That also probably depends a lot on the demographic you have spoken to. If you’re talking to older women who are still single and dating, then they will likely have higher than average numbers. There will be some people who may have had that man…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:37 PM
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Without seeing any other information about that graph, I would assume it is because tinder has a lot more male than female users, so women are in more demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:50 PM
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An online women’s n-count thread is not going to be representative of women in general. That’s just a small sample from a small demographic, and I would guess people who have had more sexual partners are more likely to be searching those threads and discussing sex with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:50 AM
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I have a 10 year account with 500 karma and this account, so a lot less than yours combined. Either way, having low karma doesn’t change the fact that people on Reddit don’t share every single opinion they have, in every single thread discussing the topic. They pick and choose which opinions to share and when. Having less karma could even indicate you are self-regulating by not commenting your opinion in some places where the majority would disagree, so there will be a higher ratio of comments w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:43 AM
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The person I replied to claimed it was data from the whole population. Dating app studies are useful for saying that the demographic of women that use dating apps, where they will sometimes only have a bio and pictures to make their decisions, will have their decision influenced by the pictures. Along with any other dating app specific findings that have been made. They aren’t useful for saying that these findings translate directly into non-online dating. Also, yes I would say that the general …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:51 PM
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In studies where the participants self-reported their emotions, women were found to be more emotionally responsive, though this is vulnerable to gender stereotypes. The differences sometimes reduce or disappear when attempting to remove bias. Studies using physiological responses have not been conclusive either, sometimes women are found to be more responsive and sometimes they aren’t. When studying brain activity it is sometimes found that men have greater amygdala activity and sometimes there …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:20 PM
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Women have the ability to do those things too, and both genders can let their emotions cloud reason. The question is whether there are actually proven gender differences, or if it is just a stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:52 PM
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Not being rich doesn’t mean you are poor. Being average height/wealth/looks isn’t a negative compared to the average person, it’s just not a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:10 PM
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The majority of adults in the US have never used a dating app (source), so a study of only dating apps wouldn’t cover the whole population.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:54 PM
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She’s probably dated guys with those characteristics that turned out great too. The point was that being “unattractive” doesn’t automatically mean you can’t just be interested in sex, as is being discussed in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:35 PM
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She didn’t complain about any of those three points which she said are her tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 10:13 PM
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Probably a higher percentage are just looking for sex than in the general population. Due to the fact dating apps are usually perceived to be used for hooking up, a lot of people who aren’t interested in that don’t use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:10 PM
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Because women aren’t all the same, some may want to be approached and some may not want to be. In the same way that some like masculine men, and some like feminine men. Why would you expect them all to like the same things?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:39 PM
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Have you read the results from the study they are referring to? I couldn’t get access to it. There may only be an extremely small difference in perceived attractiveness. It also says there were only 66 couples tested. What I am able to read doesn’t seem enough to say it applies to the majority of all women, or has an effect on their behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:27 PM
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You can still lose your virginity to the person you end up getting married to, and not be a virgin on your wedding day, or end up staying together but not getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 11:11 PM
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I am willing to do that, and have. I would say it’s unlikely that if there actually was only one woman willing to, they happened to read your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:49 AM
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