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Question For WomenRealCaramelli/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:10 AM
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I think it’s mostly a by-product of dating apps. Women get more matches than they know what to do with from what I’ve heard, it makes sense to set some filters to whittle it down a bit. It’s becoming a bigger problem as the apps become more predominant though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:54 PM
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I really don’t get how so many people can misunderstand such a basic point OP. This is pretty clearly a gendered issue in the year 2025
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:13 PM
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Women have the right to not be pregnant, but they do not have the right to not be a parent and the responsibility that comes with it? If you’re saying it’s about pregnancy and not parenthood, I’ve seen other comments saying this, but NIH data seems to indicate that the majority of abortions are primarily driven by the desire not to have a kid. “The top three reason categories cited in both studies were: 1) “Having a baby would dramatically change my life” (i.e., interfere with education, employm…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:34 PM
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They literally say “no uterus no opinion” and then get mad when don’t really have an opinion on it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:37 AM
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Your body, your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:42 PM
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Yea I mean I was thinking he has like a week or two to decide after being made aware, and gives up parental rights forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 09:57 PM
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Then you abort it or give it up for adoption. Her body, her choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 09:55 PM
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Oh no that’s not what I mean by this. If the child is already born the father would not have this right. If they both agree to put it up for adoption, it be the same way we do it currently. This is specifically about men who are not yet fathers who do not want to be responsible for the unborn baby. If the man abdicated, he would have no say in what the mother does with the child. I had a conversation with someone else, if the woman abdicated and the man took the responsibility (weird situation),…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:03 PM
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I think that mother who is not prepared to raise it alone should not have the child, but if she does want to have the child I think it would be better for the child for the mother to be prepared for that situation going into it rather than the father leaving 3 months after it’s born. The father would give up all paternal rights to the child for the entirety of the childhood
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:53 PM
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I agree with everything here. Another woman said a 2 week window would be fair after the man is made aware, I think that would leave plenty of time for the woman to make her decision
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:51 PM
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Ok, lie to him I guess? If you didn’t abdicate, you’re on the hook same as he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:04 PM
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If the man did not abdicate the baby during the allowed time, he is legally on the hook even if he changes his mind, just as a man is currently on the hook. The man gets a certain window after being made aware of the pregnancy (I asked, one woman threw out 2 weeks) to choose to abdicate or not. If he doesn’t, he’s on the hook just like he is now. Your husband cannot legally abdicate your 3 year old child, just how you can’t legally abort your 3 year old child. Abortions will increase, but this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:03 PM
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Alright, do you believe our current fertility rate is a problem? If not, what fertility rate would be problematic to you? In America it’s about 1.6, in Canada it’s down to 1.26. Replacement rate is 2.1
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:35 PM
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There is no arrangement or deception, that’s the whole point. If you don’t want the baby, and he does want the baby, you would abdicate the baby and I guess have it but have no contact with the baby. If he didn’t want the baby, he would abdicate and the choice would be yours to have it or not. If you lied to him and said you wanted the baby, and you did not legally abdicate, you would be legally responsible for the child. I think it actually is just checkers, hold people accountable to their sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:11 PM
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Not sure what I’m misunderstanding here. Men cannot abdicate and no maternal/child welfare (Current status quo) = Low fertility Men can abdicate and no maternal/child welfare = Really low fertility Men can abdicate with maternal/child welfare = Low fertility (same as status quo) Men cannot abdicate with maternal/child welfare= Better fertility Men cannot abdicate with maternal/child welfare AND women cannot abort = highest fertility Is that not your train of thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:02 PM
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Yes, this policy assumes that abortion is already legal and easily accessible. This would be a barbaric policy of women did not have undisputed access and choice to abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:40 PM
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Would you be against abortion if we had those services? You’re saying that men should be fathers against their will, citing population crisis. I’m not saying you’re wrong for saying that, but I think it’s follow that you’d need women having children too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:35 PM
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Yea I think a lot men (including myself) don’t really prioritize this issue because both sides of the issue basically tell men you’re either forced to be a father no matter what or you’re forced to be a father if the mother wants him to be a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:29 PM
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If he wanted to be a father and you didn’t want to be a mother, but you were willing to carry the pregnancy to term I think that would be fine. A lot men who say they’re against abortion might actually have their beliefs tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:22 PM
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Ok so are you anti-abortion, if you’re saying we have a population crisis? Maybe I should’ve clarified in my post that this question is directed at women who believe abortion is a right. If you believe that men have the right to opt of parenthood is bad for demographics, I’d assume you would be against abortion as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:38 PM
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I mean ideally both parties should discuss their intentions. Verbal agreements can be held up in court as valid like a written document, I don’t think getting a legal paper notarized on the way back to you apartment is really going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:25 PM
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I’m sure for a decent chunk of women, the pregnancy itself is the main reason for abortion. That being said, survey data suggests that it’s mostly because they don’t want to be a mother. The top three reason categories cited in both studies were: 1) “Having a baby would dramatically change my life” (i.e., interfere with education, employment and ability to take care of existing children and other dependents) (74% in 2004 and 78% in 1987), 2) “I can’t afford a baby now” (e.g., unmarried, student,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:21 PM
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If the man would abdicate, he would obviously have no right to the child. If a man declares to the government “I do not want to be a father, and I’m will to give up all of my paternal rights to the child”, I think that’s a pretty clear sign of where he actually stands. We already give women preferable custody in most divorces already, it’s not like society treats men like they make equal contributions. I just think we should formalize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:09 PM
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I’m talking about if this were to be a law or legal right, not whether it’s be recognized or enforced in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:12 AM
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That is precisely why I didn’t use the term “male abortion”. I used the word abdicate, meaning “to resign mean to give up a position with no possibility of resuming it” If the mother makes a decision that she wants to continue the pregnancy after the father abdicates, that would be body and her choice. If the father died in a car crash the day she got the news of the pregnancy, she would still have to make this choice. You say that men would use this on women who can’t get abortions, do they not…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:10 AM
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Well let’s say the father died in a car accident the day she gets the news she pregnant. Does she not have to make the same choice? If she gets sick, is she or the government still not on the hook? I would imagine the vast majority of women would choose to abort in the event the father abdicates, but if she decides to keep it for whatever reason she is making an informed consensual decision. The alternative, what we have currently, is a system where men go out for a pack of cigarettes and leave …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:02 AM
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If you have another right, is that right not supposed to recognized by a court?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:56 AM
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Where does the post say funding dead beat dads? This would be a case where the father does not want to be a father, but the mother wants to keep the baby. The dad wouldn’t get a dime from anyone. Edit: I’d say if the father abdicates and the mother decides to abort after, the dad should be financial responsible for the abortion itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:53 AM
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Isn’t that the purpose of a right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:50 AM
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Yes, it’d have to be in a timeframe that gives the woman some period of time to make the decision. While yes, maternal mortality is a factor that should be taken seriously, the vast majority of abortions are not because of maternal mortality concerns. My premise still stands in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:44 AM
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Attempt, or have the legal right to terminate their responsibility of parenthood? “Attempt” makes it sound like getting a back alley abortion or going out to get some cigarettes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:29 AM
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Good point about no contact, I just presumed that’s part of the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:24 AM
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Not sure I’m following. Are you saying men currently have the right to abdicate a pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:22 AM
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So do you think a man who raped the mother should not get to abdicate fatherhood? That’s an interesting punishment for the father
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:21 AM
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So as a woman, how long do you think a reasonable period of time would be to give the woman time to make that decision? I would think maybe like a month?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:19 AM
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I’m not disagreeing with what you’re saying, but how does that relate to this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:48 AM
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I think men and women get the same amount t of likes, no? I’m arguing that the apps should give women as many likes as they want, while only giving maybe 3-10 a day. I think it’s current about 50 every 12 hours?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:49 AM
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Well I mean VERY limited, like 5 likes a day limited. Whatever number gets it to point where men and women like each other at the same rate
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 11:53 PM
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Then how do you explain almost twice as many men being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:32 PM
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I’m not sure why you’re thinking I’m somehow missing this. I’ve agreed with this idea multiple times through this thread. That’s how I actually met my current gf, but I’m saying I understand the forces at play that encourage men to use the indiscriminate strategy. The question is how do you get the mass of men to actually be more selective when they are not seeing results through being selective. As time goes on, they are inevitably going to lower their standards if they are getting zero results…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:46 AM
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Honestly, I wonder if limiting men’s likes would discourage fuqboi behavior. If you get say, 5 likes a day, you’ll be much less to be creepy and/or use said match for nudes etc. It might actually result in higher quality matches idk. It’s not like women aren’t getting more than enough matches, I can’t imagine they’d leave for lack of matches
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:07 AM
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Ok, but why do you think men are treating it like a slot machine? When your chance of matching that low, and you know the next schmuck is going to do it, you kind of have to if you want any results. Look up prisoners dilemma. Until we can create an environment where men and women are incentivized to engage in good faith, I don’t think dating apps are going to make anyone happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:05 AM
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I’ll concede that it was in the last year as opposed to virginity, I used the wrong wording there. That being said, the figure has tripled in the last decade. Let me ask you, do you think that this general phenomenon is a problem? From what I can tell you’re fairly indifferent, is that accurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:58 PM
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To be fair, lowering the amount of right swipes should in theory create a higher swipe to match ratio. What are your thoughts on limiting male swipes per day? Maybe that would reduce the amount of likes women get, and signal to matches that women do get a stronger sense of commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:48 PM
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If you have to talk about Grindr, you know you’re wrong but you’re not willing to admit it come on. Regarding most men being viable and getting laid, that’s increasingly untrue. When ~30% of men under 30 are virgins, there’s probably a social issue that we’re either missing or sweeping under the rug.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:46 PM
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Just out of curiosity, have you tried these dating apps as a man? Do you think men would scrape the bottom of the barrel if options were nearly as abundant as for women? I do agree with the conclusion that men do end up treating the apps as a slot machine of sort, mindlessly swiping right until something comes up. That being said, maybe that’s part of the solution. Maybe men should get less likes to force them to be more selective, but I still don’t know if that fixes the other underlying proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:08 PM
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Notice how I didn’t say women have an “easy” time. However, women DO have an “easier” time finding matches relative to men. This isn’t really up for debate, women are over 10x more likely to match with somebody that they are interested in. I’m happy to talk with you about how these disparities can (and probably do) negatively affect women, but this is a problem that disproportionately affects men’s dating prospects. If you read my other comments on this thread, I state multiple times that I don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:43 PM
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Well, I think the question then is whether the large disparity between single men and single women is a result of dating apps gaining prevalence, or if the dating apps are simply a reflection of society. Couldn’t the women in their 20s just be using dating apps to find wealthier men in their 30s/40s though?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:24 PM
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See, this is where I start to wonder if people with your position are following the same story about what’s going on. Men clearly outnumber women by a large margin on all dating apps, and women select men a drastically lower rate. This isn’t to attack or demonize any individual woman, but there’s clearly a sort of “market failure” so to speak. Tinder as a “dating market” is literally more unequal than the United States of graphed onto a GINI-coefficient, which flies in the face of what you’re sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:05 PM
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Yes, I’d agree with you. The skewed M/F ratio is likely the largest driving factor when it comes to disparities between men’s and women’s outcome. I don’t blame the individual woman for setting high standards (ie 6 foot, must own house etc) when there are literally more options than your brain can realistically process. This is more of a problem with the apps, and maybe even our society’s over reliance on these apps for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 08:54 PM
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If this hypothesis is true, and women’s tastes were more varied then men’s, wouldn’t we expect men to have an easier time on dating apps then? If some women were bound to find 5’6” men or men make $25k attractive, we would see those men have options. I think there’s a degree of variance in what individual women find attractive, but this often along the lines of ethnicity, personality, interests etc. This honestly just seems like a post-hoc rationalization for why women are so selective. Addition…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:47 PM
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If that’s how you feel about men, you’re probably not emotionally ready to enter a relationship with a man. If a man felt this way about women, I’d say the same. Im sorry you feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:34 PM
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Ngl this seems to be dodging the spirit of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:37 AM
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First of all, I’ll start out by saying that we should acknowledge that’s a real issue that women go through and I’d imagine that would harm a woman’s mental health. I think people are evolved to compare themselves to others, but we’re not really equipped to compare ourselves against thousands of gorgeous people. While I wouldn’t go so far as fat acceptance, definitely having more “normal” looking people in media would probably be a cultural good. That being said, this conversation is mostly abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 10:36 PM
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It’s not suggesting therapy that men are upset about. It’s that it’s ONLY therapy, without any recognition that there are underlying societal issues that are harming men. It’d be like telling a miserable 50s housewife to go therapy. Sure it’d help but that’s not really useful in a conversation about society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 09:21 PM
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Idk I’d say I’m reddish-purple pilled, and I’m fairly progressive on a lot of stuff. I think a lot of the toxicity of the red pill is an outgrowth of society’s inability to acknowledge that there serious gender norms from the days of patriarchy that directly benefit women that we are incapable of actually addressing. I understand why people like you are concerned, but you’re addressing the symptoms and not the actual cause. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:16 AM
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I’d say I was in the top 10-20% of families. He didn’t make a CEO/neurosurgeon levels of money. The difference is he spent very little on himself, and didn’t really indulge us either. I don’t think I’ll be able to replicate this lifestyle even though I make more than a lot of people my age which was much more common in the past due to higher inequality and generational inequality. I think that the breadwinner/SAHM model is have their own problems and are generally not sustainable and we need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:14 PM
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What did she do for a living? Most people generally work a grueling job and not a career, most of which aren’t mentally stimulating in a good way. I’d agree that baby meetups aren’t stimulating, but my mom was able to do tennis/kickboxing, along with other SAHM’s. Again, there’s a class element here that I don’t want to understate, the working spouse needs to be able to support these activities financially and we were privileged in that regard. I think when it comes to money, I think that’s gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:05 PM
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I mean, I’d agree if you were locked in the home but that’s not really the case and I think we both know that. You have to go out for errands (ie grocery shopping, car repairs, etc), but you generally don’t spend all 8 hours doing domestic work/errands. My mom was pretty happy being a housewife, a lot of her day was socializing with friends/networking with people in the neighborhood. Granted, not everybody necessarily would want to do this, but I think it’s disingenuous to act like stay at home …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:46 PM
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I’d say if you’re slaving away for $12/hr, and your spouse is making 5x that, quite a lot. It’s an extreme example, but why not spend your efforts in the home? Both of you will have less to do when they get home, because all the domestic duties will already be done. Your household will take a marginal cut in terms of income, but the workload would be lower. That being said, your husband making only say 20% more than you doesn’t justify you having to do all of the labor definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:37 PM
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I don’t know what parts of evolutionary psychology are true or false, but I think it’s foolish to think that our motivations are in line with contemporary society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:57 AM
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A. It creates a weird power dynamic where the woman gives it out like a treat. If a woman even tried doing that I’d drop her, it’s hijacking your sexuality to make you compliant B: when it’s a reward that a woman has to give out instead actually wanting to do it herself, it’s going to be seen as a chore. I’m not married but I’d imagine that’s why dead bedrooms are so common.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:13 PM
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This is an adult conversation about an already taboo topic, don’t be weird about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:09 PM
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Are most of your subscribers single or in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:35 AM
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So what do the women here think of onlyfans? Do you think it’s a net negative for the dating pool on your end?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:06 AM
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You understand men are openly saying this right? Given that most people are heterosexual, both men and women can be lonely?
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