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You already told it was removed as a FAQ in addition to seeming agenda-y. You then proceeded to post on MR after your thread was removed for being frequently asked (and being told as much, as well as given links to the threads in question). That doesn't seem to me like the actions of someone who just wants to ask a question - which means it violates the "no agendas" rule.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 12:51 AM
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Your question actually is asked pretty frequently!. Like, for reals. Here's another thread. Another. That being said, we frown upon trying to get people to brigade our sub because it (obviously) makes our lives harder when our users are getting harassed.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 12:37 AM
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Why not point out that they're using the wrong percentages? Using their statistics: 40% (40/100) of rapes get reported. 25% (10/40) of reported rapes lead to an arrest. 80% (8/10) of arrests for rape lead to prosecution. 50% (4/8) of prosecutions for rape lead to felony convictions. I'm not exactly sure where "single day in jail" bit comes from. I guess that'd be with respect to the prosecution? I dunno. Obviously, you can't arrest people who haven't been accused of any crime. You can't prosecut…
/r/MensRights27/01/14 05:52 AM
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I meant more literal, but figurative works too. A means to an end.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 06:20 AM
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It'd be better to go with "tool" instead of "success object" and "instrumentalization" instead of "objectification" if that's actually used there.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 04:54 AM
1

You should mark it as NSFW dude.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 03:50 AM
1

I don't unfortunate is the right word for it, nor do I particularly agree with your assessment. But shrug I don't think we get anything out of the term either way.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 11:40 PM
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I explaining how it was typically used (in my experience). Are you trying to say that I've misunderstood everyone who has talked about it before, and they were all referring to the trivialization and disregard directed at male victims?
/r/MensRights17/12/12 11:30 PM
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She's met the king!? Good lord!
/r/MensRights17/12/12 11:26 PM
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Unfortunately, that is definitely not what is meant when that is said 99% of the time. "Rape culture" used in a typical conversation refers to the trivialization, enabling attitudes towards, and denial of the rape of women. Most people believe men are raped infrequently enough that it doesn't matter (or, it matters but not really because <justification for dismissing male rape victims here likely saying women don't rape>).
/r/MensRights17/12/12 11:13 PM
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Well, I wanted to put "identifying with your sex" but I was actually thinking of trans people and how some of them struggle with a similar issue (or I imagine they do). My point was, we're making it difficult to say "I identify as a man and here are some of the ideals I associate with it that allow me to re-enforce that identity". It's more important to show them that just because they don't fit the model to a T doesn't mean they are lesser men than those that do. If you don't believe that playi…
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:33 PM
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It should probably be removed. That being said, I don't think most people here particularly care if we drive away feminists so it probably won't. I'm personally on the fence about that. On the one hand, having more people for the movement is good. On the other hand, the disagreements I get into over ideological differences with feminists far outweigh the number of pleasant conversations I have with them. But that might just be my bad luck.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:25 PM
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You don't see what the problem is with making it difficult for people to be able to identify with their gender :/? As it is already, we have hundreds of different ideas of what masculinity is and a lot of them conflict with each other in major ways. Femininity I can't speak for, but I imagine it's starting to get that way as well. I don't, personally, think making it more difficult for women to identify with femininity and their gender by moving those traits to "gender-neutral" is the proper (or…
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:21 PM
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You forgot the part where more and more traditionally "masculine" traits are being moved to "gender-neutral" traits which fail to define masculinity and rob young men of their ability to identify with their gender. Men can't be "strong", amongst other things, because that implies women can't be (or will be treated as such). People are taking advantage of this loss of direction much in the same way you are right now. Also, I dislike that you seem to imply that wanting to be masculine is a bad thi…
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:08 PM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/school-shooter-adam-lanza_n_2312818.html ?
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:03 PM
1

He used an assault rifle?
/r/MensRights17/12/12 04:54 PM
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the situation does not seems problematic to me. You also missed the part where she intentionally stopped taking birth control in order to become pregnant, I take it?
/r/MensRights17/12/12 02:58 PM
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...? What?
/r/MensRights17/12/12 03:59 AM
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Y'know, generally I tend not to agree with you... But I think you're completely right on this one. This is just a smear post :|
/r/MensRights17/12/12 01:07 AM
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TIL: I am apparently an angry white man.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 12:07 AM
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Oh goody. Can't wait to hear all about rape culture.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 06:58 PM
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Good job! It's important to speak out like this. People won't change their minds from our silence.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 06:40 PM
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What speaks to me more is everything in this topic was downvoted.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 03:35 PM
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You were just handed these? Like, she's told you what your greatest needs are? That seems pretty unreasonable.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 03:34 PM
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There's a women's section of the KKK?
/r/MensRights16/12/12 03:16 AM
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I didn't downvote it, actually.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 01:31 AM
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I feel incredibly bad for that guy.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 11:06 PM
3

What petition?
/r/MensRights15/12/12 10:11 PM
2

No health insurance of any kind?
/r/MensRights15/12/12 06:52 PM
1

Eh, I disagree on it being feminist projection but it definitely is projection of some sort.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 06:44 PM
2

Have you tried therapy, commander?
/r/MensRights15/12/12 06:43 PM
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Bashing MR? That takes a lot of courage. Someone get that person a medal! That being said, hopefully we won't brigade it.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 06:40 PM
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Oh, I knew what link it was. I just avoided posting it because I didn't want it brigaded :/ Topic's been deleted since yesterday, but man did it totally show what she thinks of men.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 05:21 PM
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Oh, so because their women you think they can't handle a man trying to assert his dominance by greeting them? Sexist scum pig! </strawwomyn>
/r/MensRights15/12/12 05:14 PM
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What she said describes Reddit in general, actually.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 05:09 PM
3

Oh hey! I recognize that name! She posted a topic on /r/AskMen a while ago that asserted that because we were men we would know why men raped.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 05:08 PM
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Ah, clearly all Mens Right's Movement groups are just the KKK in disguise. Reasonable assumption. Men can't have issues. It's just their sense of entitlement.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 02:14 PM
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:| I don't think it's reasonable to blame Title IX for the shootings that happened today in any way what so ever. Sorry. Unless you have evidence to suggest the lack of male-oriented activities was partially what motivated him?
/r/MensRights15/12/12 04:05 AM
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I was actually quoting the article and then being facetious about the reasoning as to why they wouldn't include gay men. Article says that it'd be a panel of women.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 02:58 AM
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Nope. Only women. Sorry, that's just how these things work.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 02:54 AM
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I honestly don't even care if that was fake. It was a fun read.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 02:54 AM
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Random panel of women.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 02:50 AM
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Google "School Shooting Connecticut"
/r/MensRights15/12/12 02:49 AM
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I hadn't even looked at the dead count yet. Just... shooting children? Really?
/r/MensRights14/12/12 06:19 PM
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Oh for fucks sakes, shooting children :|?! Come the fuck on. Sorry I can't even contribute to this.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 06:05 PM
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Seconding this. "Know, be able to recognize, and attempt to avoid situations in which bad things could happen to you" is not blaming the victim. It's advice to avoid becoming the victim.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 05:05 PM
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The secret of Reddit revealed.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:58 PM
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I disagree, as that's interpreting the posters in an unintended way (which is pretty clear from the wording used on the posters). They're very clearly pushing for explicit affirmation rather than implicit affirmation.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:22 PM
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I believe the point of pointing out the membership time was to bring about attention to the fact that 8745squantus is likely a troll or replying in this manner to get a rise out of us.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 01:55 PM
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Pretty much. "I'm going to have to unsubscribe because my opinion differs from yours. You're retarded. Oh no why am I being insulted I didn't do anything POOR ME."
/r/MensRights14/12/12 01:47 PM
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Oh they're much better than the typical consent posters, but saying that everything done without explicit consent is sexual assault isn't a good message. Miscommunication happens sometimes.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:01 AM
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IIRC, they recently redefined misogyny based on some event going on Australia but didn't do the same with misandry. Admittedly, I haven't been keeping up on that so someone correct me if that's NOT still a thing.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 03:37 AM
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I support that these posters encourage communication, but dislike the message they're sending :|
/r/MensRights14/12/12 03:17 AM
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I don't think it's fair to compare them to mold. Mold has some integrity.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 03:01 AM
3

Which is surprising, considering their stance on misogyny vs misandry.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 02:23 AM
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My point was taking her deletion of her twitter account as admission of guilt or acknowledgement that she knows she did something like taking someone's desire for privacy as them having something to hide. Unless she outright says it, or curbs her behavior, all it means is she knows she's going to catch some heat for what she did and has no baring on whether she thinks she fucked up or not.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 09:53 PM
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Not to rain on your parade but... Why else would one of them delete her twitter account? Maybe she didn't want to be harassed? People who've done nothing wrong get harassed all the time.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 09:43 PM
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I... What?
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:28 PM
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Because they believe it happens so infrequently that it is trivial.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 05:25 PM
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Probably.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 04:54 PM
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Yes.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 04:40 PM
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Ah, so that justifies saying the exact same thing about men?
/r/MensRights13/12/12 04:35 PM
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Alright, fair enough :P As long as they're being completely consistent on this "If it's not directly related to you living or dying we won't cover it" stuff. EDIT: And as a request, in the future, can you not do what you did in his post? I'd like to think we're (relatively) reasonable around here and that sort of attitude bothers me.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 06:25 AM
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Mmm, what is it then? Sexual function isn't a part of health, or does health only have to treat diseases/injuries? Actually, what covers plastic surgery on a totally unrelated note? Do people just straight up pay for that? EDIT: Is fertility treatment covered by health insurance?
/r/MensRights13/12/12 05:51 AM
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I disagree with her reasoning (because it's pretty clearly an "Well my problems solved see you later guys!" attitude), but I think you're being childish.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 04:36 AM
3

This seems like an excellent way to discredit MRM as a legitimate movement by classifying every member as low-status.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 03:28 AM
2

This list is hilarious. EDIT: God dammit, they already got /r/AltMensRights ): I was going to do this whole thing with it and now... ugh. So sad.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 12:32 AM
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As though they believe there is a non-toxic masculinity. Hehe.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 12:32 AM
1

Nope
/r/MensRights12/12/12 09:46 PM
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Awesome finding. I wish it were more current though.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 07:50 PM
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If it would make you less afraid of men, by all means. Check out /r/SampleSize.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 07:42 PM
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That's what originally made me think "Wow, the sexism in this is so apparent." but then they have this statement: Being made to penetrate is a form of sexual victim- ization distinct from rape that is particularly unique to males and, to our knowledge, has not been explic- itly measured in previous national studies. Which says to me they recognize that it's a unique form of sexual victimization that should probably be measured too. That's what makes me say they almost got it right. They failed c…
/r/MensRights12/12/12 07:26 PM
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A significant amount of people consider having sex with an intoxicated person to be rape, actually. So it was likely done in accordance with the survey giver's beliefs. Obviously, you likely had some more clear cut cases of rape such as "Would you have sex with a girl that was passed out?" in the survey as well. What surprises me more is that you want to believe that between 30 and 70% of the male population would honestly want to commit such a horrible act and only are deterred by prosecution.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 07:18 PM
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From pg 94 of the NISVS: As an example of prevalence differences between the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey and other surveys, the lifetime prevalence estimate of rape for men in this report is lower than what has been reported in other surveys (e.g., for forced sex more broadly) (Basile, Chen, Black, & Saltzman, 2007). This could be due in part to the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey making a distinction between rape and being made to penetrate someone …
/r/MensRights12/12/12 07:04 PM
1

That they're a horrible person? Probably not. Would you murder a random person if there was absolutely no chance of you being caught? I don't think many people would answer yes to that question. Odds are they were asked something along the lines of "Would you have sex with a girl even if she was drunk, if given the opportunity?"
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:59 PM
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I'll be honest, that entire survey is so shoddily done that I have difficulty using it as a legitimate source at all. I really wish we could get an unbiased paper on this. I really do.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:47 PM
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The sad thing is? There are a lot of people like that on reddit. Lots and lots of people.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:42 PM
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Because if they said they would they'd be admitting to themselves that they're a horrible person (which would be a major blow to their ego). Also, consider asking this on /r/AskMen or /r/AskWomen.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:41 PM
2

less than 1.1% of men every year have actually been victims of completed rape Actually, the "made to penetrate" statistic contains both attempted and completed rapes.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:37 PM
1

Fair enough, I'll be honest and say I don't know the major distinctions aside from what makes it first degree.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 05:55 PM
12

Why can't gay men see too? Do gay men not like men?
/r/MensRights12/12/12 04:45 AM
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I'm so glad this person took the time to give men some tips on how to avoid being date raped. It'd be terrible if they, instead, told them how not to date rape. Glad that didn't happen though.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 04:44 AM
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What a surprise. When a study admits that men can be raped, it finds that men are raped at similar rates (before counting prison statistics) :| But no. Men are never raped. Ever.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 04:38 AM
5

more lenient entry criteria (lower SAT scores required for women to get into college than men) etc. Evidence of this?
/r/MensRights12/12/12 12:46 AM
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Brosiden, king of the Brocean, I don't lift. I fuckin' raise.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:24 PM
4

Look, bro, other people get murdered by NON-AMERICAN bombs. Suck. It. Up.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 11:22 PM
5

misogyny You keep using that word...
/r/MensRights11/12/12 10:55 PM
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Misandry don't real, remember?
/r/MensRights11/12/12 09:55 PM
2

My favorite part about this statistic is they pretend that all murder is equal. That is, poisoning the many slowly and replacing his heart meds with ecstasy is the exact same as beating someone to death in a fit of rage. Y'know, because manslaughter and first degree murder are the exact same thing and should be punished equally.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 09:42 PM
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I believe so. At least, it does in rats. There's some studies floating around about it.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 04:11 PM
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Because when someone outside of the ostracized group speaks out for them it's surprising, especially if it puts them in a place of relative disadvantage.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 05:15 AM
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This graph confused me for a while because red typically denotes female. I was like "Wat."
/r/MensRights11/12/12 05:10 AM
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... I... ... That person is cancer.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 01:47 AM
2

Very well written letter.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 01:44 AM
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Absorption through the skin. Excess estrogen fucks with sperm motility IIRC.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 09:06 PM
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I can't imagine it'd be good for our body, considering what excess estrogen and its derivatives does. I'd be wary of using these myself until there was unbiased, independent research that showed they were 200% safe for men.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 06:20 PM
2

Very awesome idea. I hope it works out.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 06:03 PM
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I dunno. If someone started sawing away at my penis with a butterknife it'd hurt after a while. Shit's sensitive.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 06:01 PM
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Is it traditional where you come from for thanking someone for insulting you and then deflecting the blame onto someone else?
/r/MensRights10/12/12 06:00 PM
2

You can. It'd just take a while.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 05:19 PM
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Hey, that's not true at all! Men rape men all the time! There are male victims too! </satire>
/r/MensRights10/12/12 04:22 PM
0

I'm just saying if the headline was "25% fewer whites than blacks graduate college" we might see a bit more outrage. Lots more if we flipped the races on that.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 04:11 PM
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Shit, they know about our Patriarchy Squads? Who told them!?
/r/MensRights10/12/12 06:22 AM
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I'm... I'm concerned that he doesn't see this as a problem. Also, the statistic is misleading. 33% more women graduated than men. The phrasing makes it difficult to understand how wide the gap is.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 06:16 AM
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I don't know much about them either, but I imagine that's the text-book reasoning. Because men never lose their jobs, of course.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 12:44 AM
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I feel the same way :|
/r/MensRights10/12/12 12:41 AM
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Obviously they disagree (and so do I, but that point is aside). Typically, people who make this sort of thread are just concern trolling. I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but that that is the reason not many people take the suggestion seriously.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 12:39 AM
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You are not the first, nor will you be the last person to suggest this.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 12:27 AM
1

This blog is satire.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 12:24 AM
1

Slavery or work, depending on the pay.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 04:58 AM
1

I'd argue that oppression for their own good is still oppression :P
/r/MensRights09/12/12 02:27 AM
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Probably. The study is noticeably flawed in many other ways too. The only problem is we're never going to see a study about the number of men who are raped, so everyone is going to look at that and say "see? Men don't get raped and misandry don't real." which will (in turn) discourage said studies.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 03:09 PM
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"If there's a problem with the sex it's the man's fault."
/r/MensRights07/12/12 08:30 PM
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So I read the article and it's silly. I can pretty much sum it up in three words: "Humor your man."
/r/MensRights07/12/12 08:28 PM
1

This is akin to saying: "Men have always been the primary victims of rape. Men's relationships with their wives, their mothers, their daughters are irreversibly damaged because of it." And it's as stupid as that quote.
/r/MensRights07/12/12 02:35 PM
1

Ah. One of your topics then wouldn't work for it. Weird.
/r/MensRights07/12/12 12:59 AM
1

Sadly, I think the video got taken down
/r/MensRights07/12/12 12:43 AM
2

Ad hominems are the best kind of ads.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 05:20 PM
1

Well, to play the devil's advocate, it's still a wide spread belief that men cannot be raped by women, and that a vast majority of men who are raped by men "Had it coming" (prison).
/r/MensRights05/12/12 05:01 AM
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You realize that this is a problem for the same reason that a series of posters featuring only women in a kitchen or sitting around doing womanly things would be a problem, right?
/r/MensRights05/12/12 01:28 AM
5

not-gender-specific underwear This made your comment at least 10 times funnier.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 05:05 PM
1

I was with them up until the third statement. Apparently having to like cars and sports is belittling and demeaning women.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 04:39 AM
17

Well shit my head just exploded. Fuck.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 04:18 PM
6

More than you could count, coach.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 04:07 PM
1

She got reddit gold for that post. Silly.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 12:40 AM
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Entitlement at its finest.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 10:04 PM
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You should also check out Jumping To Conclusions and Word Twisting. Those are good events.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 05:47 PM
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I'm not saying that men -aren't- objectified here. I'm sure that is a problem, too. Could you turn down the dismissiveness a little bit, please? You're phrasing indicates you either: A) Don't believe this to really be a problem or B) Believe the problem to be so insignificant that it's not worth mentioning.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 04:05 AM
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I'll be fourth to chime in: Men frequently claim that women who dress in a revealing manner deserve it, as one example. I'd like to see evidence that this is a frequent occurrence.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 04:01 AM
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Fake mustaches exist.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 03:56 AM
5

Men’s Rights Groups are all organized by white, educated males "Minorities are too stupid to organize themselves/wouldn't ever want to take part in this sort of thing unless they're being led by the white man" is also being said here. So it's racist on all sides :)
/r/MensRights26/11/12 03:30 PM
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Yeah, that's what made me comment on the racism in the comments section earlier.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 06:50 AM
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Most feminists I know talk about men's issues a lot. How so and in what context, if I may ask?
/r/MensRights25/11/12 11:36 PM
2

Being sentenced to 10 years of rape cannot be morally acceptable I had never thought of it like that before.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 11:31 PM
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That person isn't even worth replying to.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 11:22 PM
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There is a surprising amount of racism in the comments section jeeze. Interesting article otherwise though.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 08:21 PM
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This article is a complete piece of shit, wow. WASHINGTON (AP) — Sorry, fellas, but President Barack Obama's re-election makes it official: Women can overrule men at the ballot box. The gender gap isn't just a white thing. It exists even among minorities that vote overwhelmingly Democratic. Obama got 96 percent of black women's votes, but 87 percent of black men's, compared with 76 percent of Hispanic women and 65 percent of Hispanic men, according to the exit poll. "Sorry fellas, only white men…
/r/MensRights25/11/12 04:23 PM
1

:P Then egalitarian might be a better movement for you? Unless you're more concerned with women's rights, that is (not that there is anything wrong with that!)
/r/MensRights24/11/12 11:55 PM
1

That's a much happier ending than I expected!
/r/MensRights24/11/12 11:13 PM
3

We fought, of all things, about who had it the worst. And now you're blaming yourself for it :/?
/r/MensRights24/11/12 09:50 PM
14

You people sicken me. Don't take me as a fool to my own cause, I know it happens with feminism too For the record, dismissively acknowledging that your own group is just as bad as the group you openly despise after flat out insulting said group does not make your point stronger. You probably should have left out the "You people sicken me" comment entirely. They look at feminism like it's the bane of everything man has ever stood for, picking on extremists and labeling them as the epitome of femi…
/r/MensRights24/11/12 09:48 PM
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In our culture, male sexual pleasure apperantly matters so little, Yeah, pretty much the key issue right here. A problem I've noticed is from assumptions. It is assumed that men will always receive an appropriate amount of pleasure from sexual contact. If you believe that sex is about two people sharing pleasure, and assume one of them will always receive sufficient pleasure then... well, why would you care about their pleasure at all? </rambling>
/r/MensRights24/11/12 09:43 PM
3

Those feels.
/r/MensRights24/11/12 07:42 PM
12

As a woman, I sincerely apologize. There's no reason to apologize on the behalf of your entire gender, m'am.
/r/MensRights24/11/12 05:14 PM
6

terragenitive Hm?
/r/MensRights23/11/12 03:29 PM
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I do, but it flat out contradicts itself later captain.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 09:50 PM
-12

Ah. Doesn't it say that the male teachers favor male students, though? That is, they're more likely to reward them. I guess that's different than more likely to punish them though.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 06:49 PM
5

Yeah I'm not really following what they're saying here. Care to explain it?
/r/MensRights22/11/12 06:38 PM
1

That's the one undergoing testing in India currently.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 05:32 PM
12

Not really sure why you're posting this here, captain.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 04:59 PM
3

Sadly, condoms and vasectomies are currently the only male contraceptives available outside of India/China and the ones in those states are still undergoing testing.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 04:54 PM
1

Except this is a grant so that they can afford to go to school, not an easy ticket (and, really, if money is the only thing barring them from entry they're already qualified enough) into the university. You still have to make the grades to get the degree. Well, unless you believe that they'll just hand out grades because they're a minority and that there is no way a minority could ever work as hard as a white person.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 04:48 PM
1

If I was African American or Hispanic I would be outraged. Such programs would devalue the diplomas of blacks and hispanics who got in on merit, because employers have no way of knowing that -- all blacks and hispanics with diplomas would be suspect. ... how?
/r/MensRights22/11/12 04:39 PM
6

Well there you go!
/r/MensRights22/11/12 06:51 AM
1

Fizzbuzz?
/r/MensRights22/11/12 06:50 AM
3

Amusing. I will keep in mind not to use sand paper with my condoms the next time I use one.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 06:49 AM
3

You don't have to remember, coach. You can think things without going "oh man, <x> has it worse than me too." But I get what you're sayin'
/r/MensRights21/11/12 08:41 PM
8

Sorry commander, there are better lists that don't compare sexual harassment to the Holocaust.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 06:39 PM
-3

Black men (because they're men and not women) are hurt by affirmative action practices as well, so try again.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 02:42 PM
9

Glad that something good has come of this!
/r/MensRights21/11/12 07:13 AM
6

I really really hope it does.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 08:38 PM
2

Y'know what would be really weird? If, in America, a woman could legally drop the baby off at a hospital or fire station without any judgement or fear of retribution. It'd be even weirder if they failed to define child properly.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 07:36 PM
62

... "I'm going to continue to assault him because nobody is going to stop me." WOW.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 07:03 PM
8

What did our parents think would happen when they raised a generation of men who are more sensitive and open about sharing their feelings? I'm not sure how this relates to the rest of your paragraph.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 06:55 PM
3

Probably something sexist.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 06:54 PM
3

I'm assuming that this subreddit wouldn't object to something that raised awareness of men with breast cancer. But there won't be, which is the point of the objection. We'll continue to see awareness campaigns for women's plights but none for men (unless we start them ourselves, of course). There's nothing wrong with this campaign, mind you. It's just kind of off-putting when you realize that there would be no similar effort made for you.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 06:48 PM
0

It's like white people supporting White's Rights. If I may as, what race are you sir?
/r/MensRights20/11/12 03:12 PM
1

Given any individual feminist subreddit of sufficient size (>= # of users in MR), it is likely that I can find examples of my claims about feminism. But at this point it doesn't feel like you're having this discussion in good faith. It seems like you just want us to be the "bad guys" here. Why do you feel the need to demonize the movement?
/r/MensRights20/11/12 02:39 PM
1

... I can get my examples from /r/Feminism if you'd rather, sir or m'am. My point was that those examples you find? They're a minority, like the extremist ones in the feminist movement.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 02:28 PM
2

You'd probably have more luck with/of a response to this over on OneY and AskMen.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 10:23 PM
2

Wonderful email.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 09:57 PM
32

We could send them emails. They'd probably do something for it next year, honestly. They just might not have heard of it.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 09:48 PM
7

And I see lots of misandry in the feminist movement. I see lots of feminists advocating the demonization of men. The difference is I know that those people are a minority, and that a majority of the people in the movement know that men have it pretty shitty too but are more focused on the female side of things. So, unless you want to pretend that the vocal minority speaks for the whole movement (and thus that feminism wants to castrate and enslave men), you should consider what generalizations y…
/r/MensRights19/11/12 04:02 PM
18

This is wrong and feminism fights against this, people should not be viewed as lesser because they violate the stereotypical roles. People should not be forced to accept the stereotypical roles, they should be allowed to pick what they desire without the fear of social stigmatization. ... And we don't? I'm pretty damn sure that the people in the MRM who want to keep gender roles exactly as they once were are a minority.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 03:19 PM
1

Most of the shirtless men in hollywood are about 12-9% body fat. 3% BF is body building competition levels.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 03:02 PM
3

Knowing /r/sex, the community would be wildly supportive of it as well. I've only noticed misandry when it comes to the actual act of sex on there, not relationships.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 03:00 PM
2

Oh man, a friend showed me that article today. I kind of question why they say "for women" specifically.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 05:18 AM
1

Good point.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 05:16 AM
4

I meant as far as a the general population, not of prisons. There are approximately 900,000 black men (64,000 women) in the prison system. Of the population of black people (38,929,319) in america, that gives us approximately 2% for all of the black people in america. However, if we want to see the percentage of men in prison (and we assume a 50/50 split for gender), then it becomes 900,000 out of 19,464,659 (or 4%).
/r/MensRights19/11/12 05:15 AM
7

This user has been a redditor for 7 minutes. Definitely not a troll.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 02:19 AM
5

Because a small penis is like lacking a penis (like women) so obviously having a small penis means you're more women like and therefore are more hated by society. Simple logic, duh. </sarcasm>
/r/MensRights19/11/12 02:11 AM
3

That sounds like a difficult statistic to prove, considering the ratio of black men in prison to white men in prison is about equal while the ratio of men in prison to women in prison are different by an order of magnitude.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:32 AM
12

Ah. Yes. /s typically denotes </sarcasm>. I was intentionally being tongue-in-cheek and was hoping that the tag, along with statements such as "why would they sign up for the draft and fight in world wars," would clue in on the fact that I was mocking the idea that men fear nothing.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:12 AM
17

You missed the "/s" at the end of my post, chief.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:01 AM
29

Whoa now. If men are actually afraid of things why would so many of them agree to sign up for the draft and fight in the world wars? I think you need to think a little bit harder about what you said, mister. /s
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:44 AM
9

Interestingly, I caculated the stats on that: Approximately 2% of the black population in the united states is serving time (4% of the male population, assuming a 50/50 split on male and female). Approximately 0.3% of the white population in the united states is serving time (0.6% of the male population, assuming a 50/50 split).
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:42 AM
7

You really should have put a "TW: Implied Male Nudity" on that. You could trigger some poor unsuspecting otherkin who has to deal with the ugly reality of their body every day ://///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// You should probably have checked your privilege while you were in there, btw.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:37 AM
7

How about the fact that if a man shows emotions than he is considered too girly and emotional ( a lot of times by woman ) how they make us be "the man of the house" then complain about how we aren't "in touch with our emotional side"but if we try to talk about it, we aren't man enough and should just bottle it up. According to his world view, both of those are caused by misogyny because he believes that society believes that being like women is bad. If you can tangentially related it to women, i…
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:35 AM
17

Holy begging the question batman! Men, can you even think of a single goddamn way you have ever been mocked that wasn’t related to something that a misogynist society sees as feminizing? Men being unable to take care of children and only men being pedophiles are two examples that come to mind. our society at large fucking hates women. Hilarious quote. He really should be arguing that society looks down/infantizes women, not that it hates them.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:20 AM
9

That sounds like a great bandname.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:05 AM
93

Whites are more threatened by blacks emotionally and physically than the reverse! We should bring back white-only space by his logic.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 11:35 PM
1

Beyond my wildest dreams, captain.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 02:37 AM
0

Oh god, the cancer is spreading.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 04:29 PM
4

Well, now we know why false reports are never punished. Your options are "have your life fucked up for the next 3 years so that she can get a slap on the wrist and politely asked not to do it again" or "pretend it never happened." I mean, wow.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 04:27 PM
1

Believe me, I'm the furthest thing from a misandrist. I am incredibly involved with the MRA movement. I never accused you of being a misandrist; I just asked how it was different. It's not misandry to assume that all men want to assault you? Or, rather, that any given man is so likely to assault you that you need a special cab just for you? As a note, I'm leaving off public transport such as on trains because I know there's a huge problem on those. I don't see anything wrong with having a separa…
/r/MensRights17/11/12 03:59 PM
1

Personally, I believe there should be women-only based commodities. Gyms can be more comfortable without men there, some women don't want to get into a taxi with random men, etc. etc. However, this should 100% mean men should have their own "men's only" commodities (as long as there's a good reason for it, not just general misogyny) without being rioted by feminists. Wait, how is the reasons you said different from general misandry again? Could a space be men only because they don't like to get …
/r/MensRights17/11/12 01:01 AM
0

I've learnt to appreciate the compliment. Why's that o-o?
/r/MensRights14/11/12 10:33 PM
3

Yeah, but their body issues aren't important because body issues aren't typically a male problem. Only women's body issues matter, because the media only tells women they must be sexy and desirable and holds no such obligations over men. And, even in the case that it does? Male power fantasy. </bullshit>
/r/MensRights14/11/12 09:50 PM
14

You having a penis in general makes you 'clearly enthusiastic'. Didn't you know that?
/r/MensRights14/11/12 03:31 PM
1

I tried going to a movie alone once. It was incredibly boring.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 03:08 PM
3

Well shit guys, I'd argue with her but she has cosmo backing her up on this. COSMO guys. Shit. Maybe we're wrong about this whole male privilege thing. I mean, cosmo seems to be on top of things right?
/r/MensRights14/11/12 03:05 PM
1

Oh wait, it actually got approved? Awesome!
/r/MensRights13/11/12 05:28 PM
7

http://i.imgur.com/toEOm.jpg
/r/MensRights13/11/12 12:53 AM
2

I'm confused: what's going on here?
/r/MensRights13/11/12 12:46 AM
3

I know people that post here may have said it. I don't believe it is wide-sperad enough to be something that MRAs as a whole advocate. You have to provide upvoted comments to show that. Things that are supported by the community.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 11:17 PM
2

You're begging the question. I'm asking for a handful of examples (for an arbitrary number: 6). If it's as self-evident as you say it is, then it should be trivial to find 6 examples. And it's not just MRAs that have been saying that. Men and women have been saying that for years, so please stop pretending it's an exclusive MRA thing.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 11:01 PM
2

Cool, then it should be no effort for you to take the time to back up your claims :|
/r/MensRights12/11/12 10:12 PM
6

Sorry. I meant 0.001%
/r/MensRights12/11/12 04:19 PM
2

Just look at this thread or any mra on rape, they insist that rape is women failing to be responsible and rape prevention should be about teaching them to be. With the exception of those that have alcohol involved (because opinions on that vary wildly), can you find some upvoted/agreed with comments to support the bolded claim?
/r/MensRights12/11/12 04:18 PM
0

MRA's shouldn't because most of it is wrong headed, at this time and centers around the notion that rape is mainly women failing to be responsible and prevention should be around teaching women to be responsible ... what? That statement makes no sense. EDIT: After some thought - rape is the only crime committed against a single person that I can't think of a way the person could have avoided it without seemingly blaming the victim even if I can assume anything about the circumstances. The only o…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 04:07 PM
3

I realize what you mean by "reversal of cultural script" but the problem is it seems many people genuinely believe it's a good idea rather than recognize it for the satire it is. That being said: I still feel like the general tips of avoid putting yourself in a situation where bad things can happen should be told to everyone. Things such as: avoid walking home alone after dark especially if you're unfamiliar with the area, avoid drinking until you're blackout drunk, if a situation makes you unco…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 04:02 PM
4

Because the conviction rates of rapes is only 0.1%, and they want their justice by any means necessary!
/r/MensRights12/11/12 03:50 PM
2

Do you chaps over here in MensRights see any signs that society is changing in its attitude and regarding female on male sexual abuse as a real problem and not just as some kind of joke? Very slight changes, but no not really. At the very least, it doesn't seem to be a joke now. Just dismissed as not important because it's infrequent. I'm not sure if that's better or not, however.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 03:46 PM
80

Yeah... we're not told to do it so much as it's expected of us to the point where it's left unsaid.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 04:08 PM
1

Ah, okay. Yeah, I don't know if everyone here is misunderstanding you or if they legitimately disagree with you haha. See, when I read what you wrote I thought you were saying that letting her continue to assault him was the right thing for him to do and I was like "Uhh... I disagree, personally."
/r/MensRights11/11/12 02:33 PM
1

Awesome. Thanks.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 04:35 AM
3

It makes me sad, because I like the quote but I feel like your intentions are not nearly as wonderful as the quote is. Do you believe that men's rights is against women's rights? That they are mutually exclusive? Why are you against men's rights?
/r/MensRights11/11/12 04:25 AM
13

Yes, /r/SRSWomen is taken.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 04:20 AM
2

Okay, I think I'm misunderstand you here. You're not saying what she's doing is acceptable, just that escalating back is worse, right? That is, to say, he has a right to get her to stop assaulting him without actually being physically violent towards her?
/r/MensRights11/11/12 04:15 AM
1

3) they must fight back against affirmative action that have propelled minority women over minority men. getting rid of affirmative action in its entirety is ideal, but removing the basis of gender is a good start that can help minority men. Can I get a source on the bolded part?
/r/MensRights11/11/12 03:06 AM
7

This exact story has been circulating the internet for at least 5 years now. I'm pretty sure something isn't new if it's 5 years old. That being said, you should take the kid to the police station anyway. Y'know, instead of kidnapping him.
/r/MensRights10/11/12 01:36 AM
30

Oh man. And this'll help the idea that women don't just view men as walking wallets... how?
/r/MensRights09/11/12 02:57 PM
10

The best excuse I've heard for it: Breast cancer is more likely to affect young women than prostate cancer is to affect young men. Our culture primarily cares about the 25-40 age group, and so anything that affects them will get primary research. Prostate cancer is an "old man's" disease so nobody should care. For the record, I think this is a shitty excuse.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 02:40 AM
2

That image made me smile.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 09:56 PM
1

I just hope you feel the same way about man things that any sane feminist/women should support, too :P
/r/MensRights08/11/12 07:57 PM
3

I only read the first sentence and assumed he was doing the whole "men's rights should be about women!" thing. That happens a lot around here, and it starts with variations on that sentence (<x> threatens our legitimacy). That's my bad. Someone else posted an article about women in here. Heaven forbid someone talk about women, in the comments section of an article about women. See, when I read what he posted it didn't look like he was talking about women. It looked like he was talking about how …
/r/MensRights08/11/12 07:40 PM
3

At the end of the day most women I know felt like their rights were threatened this election. Frankly, they're correct. The comments that came out of the right (legitimate rape, binders full of women) were blatantly misogynistic. I agree with you here, but then you go full concern troll on us. Y'know what? I give up with people like you. You seem to think we should just change our name from Men's Rights to Men's Complete Dedication To Women's Rights. MCDTWR. Because the only important rights are…
/r/MensRights08/11/12 07:15 PM
3

You remind me of writing in the sidewalk that predicted the fall of the US government in 2000.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 07:11 PM
8

That's how it works, m'am. All problems are women's problems, even men's "problems."
/r/MensRights08/11/12 06:58 PM
22

Yeah I was like "... uhhh... if she's too uncomfortable to get on the elevator with another person because he lives there too then that is her problem and I'm not going to deal with it."
/r/MensRights08/11/12 04:48 PM
3

I don't think it's reasonable to compare feminism to the KKK. When feminism starts literally lynching men for being men in the same way the KKK did for minorities, then I'll be more accepting of that comparison.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 03:52 PM
10

Wait, are you telling me skin color isn't a good way to measure a person's worth? What crazy talk...
/r/MensRights07/11/12 03:31 PM
6

Women use the men's room all the time. It's fine.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 03:16 PM
13

I'll agree with you that it's not an acceptable response, if only because it's completely generic.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 02:59 AM
2

I meant it more as "slaves because they were gay" not "slaves because they happened to be gay" But point taken.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 01:41 PM
1

... Touche.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 04:34 AM
4

What is with the absurdly specific scenarios? They were to counter-point his absurdly specific scenario, coach. Gay people have in fact been "lynched" frequently. Yes, I realize that gay people have been treated just as poorly in many scenarios as black people. However, aside from in marriage and the military, there has not been institutionalized homophobia in the same manner that there was institutionalized racism. It is nowhere near the same scale, and really shouldn't be treated as equal (and…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 04:34 AM
9

I'll take nobody signing them over forcing women to sign them.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 12:01 AM
-2

In America? Really? Source?
/r/MensRights05/11/12 11:58 PM
8

A similar number to the amount of gay men lynched for interacting with a white woman. Or beaten for walking into a white-only restaurant. Or arrested for not moving to the back of the bus. But you know your argument is a red herring, so why am I even bothering? There were probably a large number of children disowned by their white families because they were half black.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 11:57 PM
10

Shit man, so we had gay slaves? And separate-but-equal schools for gays? And we had institutionalized ways to prevent the gays from voting?
/r/MensRights05/11/12 10:18 PM
1

I'm suspicious of this. Can anyone else confirm this is legitimate?
/r/MensRights04/11/12 10:54 PM
57

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/12mmbn/he_says_i_raped_him_update/ And the follow up.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 09:55 PM
5

Yeah! And we can all wear pink and whatnot!
/r/MensRights04/11/12 05:49 PM
4

No I did not! Har. He's still a mod, too. Well, I don't know about the legitimacy of that sub as far as women's rights go but maybe there should be a non-feminist sub for it? I'd like to support it without all the shaming rhetoric that goes on.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 04:57 PM
2

/r/Womens_rights exists, though.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 04:29 PM
7

Or is it okay for you guys to have a gender slant but for feminism to not? Yes, because we're not pretending to be fighting for both sides of the equation while trying to silence half of it.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 03:55 PM
55

Both comics are equally stupid because they're terrible strawmen.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 03:33 PM
3

Not angry. I was just pointing out that it's not just womyn who like the idea of socialism. I'll admit I might not like it as much when I actually make money, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 06:50 PM
8

But what about us men who like the idea of socialism/communism? ):
/r/MensRights03/11/12 06:35 PM
6

It comes up in really unexpected places, and in the last 2 or 3 years I've had to stop posting on a few sites I used to check regularly because of the way the climate has changed. I know that feeling :/
/r/MensRights02/11/12 01:29 PM
11

Alright then. My apologies, then. It seems like every day we have someone new come in here and tell us we're horrible people and/or we should switch over to feminism because everyone knows that's the real equal rights movement. Either way, hope you get the answers you're looking for chief.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 01:57 PM
6

Legitimate question: Are you going to actually consider what we have to say, or are you here to try to tell us we don't need a movement (that it is illegitimate for us to even be concerned) because there are more pressing issues at hand? Looking at your posting, you've out right stated you cannot take us seriously because there are more pressing issues. I'm having serious doubts about the intellectual honesty behind your query, frankly. You don't seem to have any respect for us.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 01:48 PM
2

I feel this lack of information comes from skeptisism of the notion that men are ever required. Fixed that for you.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 01:42 PM
13

What's sad is the irony is lost on the person who wrote that.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 01:57 AM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/12e5dz/ive_been_told_to_post_my_experience_with_crazy/c6ucqft Full story, for those interested.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 03:31 PM
5

I agree. We should bombard the National Weather Services for this obvious misandrist act! And after that, we'll go after the Bering Strait. Fuck that heteronormative attitude! </s>
/r/MensRights31/10/12 01:52 PM
2

Much!
/r/MensRights31/10/12 01:26 PM
3

Why isn't your name SarcastiCock?
/r/MensRights31/10/12 04:08 AM
7

Even if their blood would keep you youthful, I can't imagine spending that much...
/r/MensRights31/10/12 03:46 AM
8

Alright, fair enough. Sorry, I really honestly expected this to be another "oh man I just had a great idea! Let's eliminate gender roles! That'll solve your problems in a timely manner!" post :/ My apologies if I came off harshly. Truth be told, most of the "female-bashing" here is feminist bashing. Not all of it, but generally legitimate female-bashing gets downvoted (unless it turns into a circle jerk, which does happen on occasion).
/r/MensRights31/10/12 02:21 AM
3

It is implied that the way to solve them is eliminating gender roles. That is taking the South American path when the Panama is fully operational. That isn't to say they both can't be done at once, but eliminating gender roles is clearly a larger scale thing, A and B, probably infeasible. They can be solved at the same time, but I don't believe they can be solved "together." "Together" implies that a level of interconnection between issues that, honestly, isn't there.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 02:12 AM
15

can't women's rights and men's rights be one and the same? Can't we all join together and pursue... equality? Short answer: Yes, though I disagree with "abolish all gender roles" as an effective tactic. Longer answer: They can totally be complimentary, but trying to solve men's issues though solving all of women's issues first (and/or abolishment of gender roles) is like sailing around South America to deliver medicine to the Philippines when you have the Panama canal. You're extending the suffe…
/r/MensRights31/10/12 01:50 AM
2

http://imgur.com/gallery/9Zqo9
/r/MensRights31/10/12 01:34 AM
31

Wow, that sign reminds me of what people hang on their dogs. Y'know, the "I did this and I'm bad for it" signs.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 12:33 AM
1

Yeah, that's probably not the best response considering it was a completely inappropriate costume in the first place. It'd be like dressing up as a victim of domestic abuse, and then saying "YEAH WELL MEN GET ABUSED TOO!" You're being an asshole by doing it and you're making people who legitimately recognize that men get abused too and want to raise awareness about it look bad.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 03:25 PM
7

I am not trying in any way to pretend I know about men's issues. I don't, I am not a man. This post was about giving insight on a female perspective. Okay. Tell me honestly. What did you want to come of this topic? Why did you write this letter? Did you want to discuss women's issues with us, as though we didn't believe they existed? Did you want to learn more about men's issues? Did you want to just tell us that our views are silly, because realistically men aren't discriminated against in soci…
/r/MensRights29/10/12 02:02 AM
3

I'll admit it, I laughed.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 01:53 AM
13

It's not what you intended, but it's what you did. You literally said: "Men have never experienced gender inequality the way women have." That is minimizing issues faced by men. Your entire post is. You're saying "Men do not face as many issues as women" and subtly implying that is because they don't have any. You did not once acknowledge that men had issues in your entire letter (or rather, you did but only off-handedly in order to dismiss it because women's issues are more important), only tha…
/r/MensRights29/10/12 01:34 AM
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I hope you take my words to heart and respond respectfully as I have been respectful to you. To be frank, you haven't been respectful at all. You have more-or-less come in here and told us "You don't know what you're talking about. Let me explain how it really is for you." Your entire post is completely disrespectful in every way imaginable hidden under the veil of politeness. If people choose to treat you with more respect than you've shown us, I would honestly be surprised.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 01:08 AM
5

I... Why do so many people believe that men being sent off to die in war is sexism against women? Seriously ._. How does one twist things so much that not being brutally slaughtered is sexism against one's self.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 12:16 AM
0

To be fair, what's stopping me from being willing to work with feminists is patriarchy theory plus concern that they won't actually be willing to actually help with my issues/my issues will be ignored. If I felt the tiniest bit of confidence that they legitimately were interested in helping men out (without all of the patriarchy bull), then yeah sure I'd love to work together. I wouldn't be surprised if feminists felt the same way about MRA people.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 11:13 PM
-1

I was talking about completely and totally eliminating all gender roles, which is what they say they want to do. I don't think that's realistic at all, but hey they're technically correct. Well, except for with reproductive rights. Even without gender roles, men would be shafted on that. I mean, I guess if we take away the idea that men must provide they might not have to pay child support for any children they sire, but still. Not at all realistic.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 08:13 PM
1

To be fair, if they did completely eliminated all gender roles it would fix men's issues. But going this way would be like sailing around south america to deliver stuff to california rather than using the panama canal.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 07:50 PM
2

I'm saying that if you do choose one over the other to be active about, there is a reason for it. "If you make a choice, there must be a reason." That's a pretty tautological statement, and doesn't really give you much information. The reason could be "I flipped a coin and it came up heads so I went with women's rights." OP was criticizing this woman's reason for choosing when the majority of MRAs that I know do the same thing - women are already privileged and therefore don't need my help. I'd …
/r/MensRights28/10/12 07:41 PM
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It's not really surprising though. Many other places on the net won't even touch on the idea that women have privilege. Same places also won't touch on the idea that blacks have privilege. They berate you for not recognizing your own privilege, while they casually dismissing the idea that they have any.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 07:29 PM
1

But if a woman wants with all her heart to support her country by being a soldier and can't, that is in fact benevolent sexism. There are still a lot of jobs women aren't permitted to do. Yes. If that was the case then I'd agree with you. It is by benevolent sexism that women are kept off the battle field. It is not by benevolent sexism that women aren't forced to sign up to have themselves slaughtered at the drop of a hat. Calling SS benevolent sexism against women would be like calling... well…
/r/MensRights28/10/12 07:18 PM
3

A lot of people would disagree with you. I wouldn't be surprised either. I've been told that if I get sent off to fight and die in a war then that is (benevolent) sexism against women. And probably say that men are in no way discriminated against. I'm not sure what this has to do with what I was pointing out. Are you saying that the people who would say that men being marginalized has barring on women in any other way are ALSO the people who don't believe that men are discriminated against.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 06:49 PM
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I'm just saying that this particular woman has straight up said that men's issues aren't her problem because women have it worse. That's pretty much MR 101 right there, just the other way around. Really? I thought MR was less of a "men have it worse than women" and more of a "men are increasingly marginalized in ways that shouldn't be ignored." The latter has no barring on women save that they aren't being marginalized. And, just to make sure, your argument isn't saying that you can only support…
/r/MensRights28/10/12 06:38 PM
4

Just pets, really.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 06:13 PM
2

Last sentence ruins it completely :/ Also, glad to hear men don't have their self-esteem affected by the media. I was worried more men were going to have body image issues/anorexia might be on the rise in men.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 01:27 AM
1

Actually, that'd probably be battery/assault. Touching strangers without their permission is bad, as a general rule.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 02:01 PM
12

So, show of hands: Anyone surprised by this? I'm not.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 01:28 PM
-1

It'd probably be better if you changed it.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 03:03 AM
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But don't you know, prostate cancer only happens to old men so it's not an issue! </sarcasm>
/r/MensRights25/10/12 08:04 PM
1

Doesn't look like it to me :/
/r/MensRights25/10/12 03:05 AM
1

And our efforts haven't been in vain; many real cases of discrimination have been solved since the 50s in bringing women closer to real pay equality. Are we going to start on minority pay afterwards, or is that going to just resolve itself?
/r/MensRights24/10/12 10:19 PM
3

Realize that those numbers are estimates over a 12 month period based on completed surveys, not actual numbers. Realize this, and realize that the life-time statistics for women being raped (about 20m) and men being forced-to-penetrate (about 5m) are based on the same number of surveys. The bias is so obvious I feel bad even using that survey anymore.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 09:18 PM
4

I'll add chief to my repertoire. Sticking with gender-neutral terms so I don't get yelled at for incorrectly addressing people.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 08:48 PM
4

I got to 5 and 6 and thought "Bullshit" and then closed it. That is hilarious, though.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 08:46 PM
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I do that to everyone, coach. Well, actually I alternate between coach and captain.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 08:44 PM
7

I had to sit down and explain to someone today why calling all men rapists via Schrodiginer's rapist was insulting. It is the most infuriating and depressing thing that has happened to me in a while. Is it really that hard to not believe all men are rapists ._.? Seriously? But thanks man, you're probably right.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 08:40 PM
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And then we would see the rise of the all-female criminal empire. The Fempire. It would be flawless.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 06:31 PM
0

/r/offmychest/ might be of interest for you, captain.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 06:29 PM
16

Yeah I'm pretty close to being on-board with this idea too. Reading here, it feels like people care. Then I go anywhere else and "oh hey all men are likely rapists, better watch out." Makes me wish I had never actually learned half this shit.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 04:39 PM
1

Yes, yes it is. And only a handful of people care about it, too. Not like they'll be listened to, because Men's Rights aren't considered a big deal right now.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 04:52 AM
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Nope. If the state finds out you're raising a child on your own they're going after the father for you, whether you like it or not.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 04:23 AM
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You do realize that, assuming you're in the states, it doesn't matter if you'd go after him for child support or not right? The state would if you wouldn't. :/ Happened to my father.
/r/MensRights22/10/12 01:37 PM
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a lot of feminists i know (which i realize must just be a good bunch cuz I was mostly ignorant to the MR) also show that other women are just as much oppressing other women. See, the caveat here is that women also perpetuate the patriarchy when they do that :P It's a flawless stance, really.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 10:49 PM
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It's not really details, though! You literally just said that all of those things are good forms of discrimination! You, additionally, implied that only a handful of men suffer from the things I just mentioned! So, please stop taking the victim stance, as though I'm some big mean bully who is here to hurt you :/ You were being completely insensitive to what this entire subreddit was about, and I called you on it. You don't have to "thrash it out" with me, since my only goal was to make you aware…
/r/MensRights20/10/12 10:31 PM
1

Fat person at a buffet probably would have been funnier. Going to point out you should probably be mindful of people's races and whatnot, cap'n.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 10:22 PM
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I dont dispute in any way that women have a harder time than men, in general. I do however understand that because of positive discrimination, some men have a really tough time too. :| Seriously, dude? Selective service is positive discrimination? Circumcision is positive discrimination? Divorce Courts are positive discrimination? Virgin shaming is positive discrimination? If you want to believe that you can objectively measure who has it worse than who (and that it is, in any way, meaningful), …
/r/MensRights20/10/12 10:20 PM
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shrug What do you expect? Please consider that we very frequently have people come here, under the exact same premise as you did in this topic, solely to start fights with us about things we are passionate about. So, it should be unsurprising (and shouldn't be unreasonable) that when we see someone who has been a redditor for an hour come here and claim that they just want our perspective that we are a bit skeptical of your intentions. You'd probably win more people over/make people less aggress…
/r/MensRights20/10/12 10:15 PM
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I'm not sure if I feel comfortable being compared to the KKK, coach.
/r/MensRights20/10/12 09:45 PM
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I went over there and it didn't seem like it. It seemed more like they were interested in feminism and how men's issues can be solved through feminism, honestly.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 08:02 PM
1

I believe amongst the American indigenous people there was spatters of matriarchy, as well as early Mesopotamians? Been a while since I've taken world history so you'll have to forgive me.
/r/MensRights18/10/12 01:21 PM
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Fair enough. Just wanted to point out that it weakens your point overall and makes people who might want to support what you say kind of want to disassociate themselves with you, coach!
/r/MensRights17/10/12 11:40 PM
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Man, I was with you up until the part where you got kind of bitter.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 11:35 PM
0

It's an interesting idea, but I can tell you that anyone who attempted this would immediately be labelled a rape-apologist and shunned.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 10:00 PM
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The 72% number is blatantly false. Data from 2012 hasn't been released yet.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 04:29 PM
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Well, we also have to take into consideration (looking at the chart again) that all wages have been steadily rising except black males. I mean, there have been a few jump backs for all races but black men are sitting at what they were paid (in comparison to the white men) during the 1970s. Over 30 years ago. Also, another interesting thing I noticed: Hispanic wages dropped dramatically in 2006. What happened in 2006? EDIT: Whoops boy did I end up being wrong. Yeah I didn't look at what hispanic …
/r/MensRights17/10/12 03:15 PM
1

So what do you have to say about there being a wider gap between White Men and Black Men than White Women and Black Women, in addition to the fact that the gap between White Women and Black Men (~92%) is larger than the gap between Black Men and Black Women (~93%)? EDIT: source
/r/MensRights17/10/12 03:05 PM
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It bottoms out in 1966. That is the weird part.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 04:29 AM
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That might be it, actually. It makes sense, at least.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 03:55 AM
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I just can't believe they dropped 5 cents over the past two years! I mean, it hasn't been as low as $.72 in over 15 years! </sarcasm> In all seriousness, I wonder what causes the drop from the 1951 to 1983...
/r/MensRights17/10/12 03:08 AM
5

Spaces and semicolons aren't letters.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 02:54 AM
1

I dunno, does Arizona have those illegal immigrant laws still?
/r/MensRights17/10/12 02:33 AM
0

Statement's still wrong, unless the FBI, CIA and TSA stopped being part of the US government.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 02:18 AM
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He'd have a point if he weren't so completely wrong in the first sentence :/ Like seriously. On the other hand, that list of threads allowed me to find some useful information about assault and whatnot. Men and Women are assaulted at about an equal rate. Men are far more likely to be the victims of aggravated assault.
/r/MensRights17/10/12 01:01 AM
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... wow. Quote in case he edits it: No group of people is discriminated against by the US government more than the white male. Affirmative action is one of the most racist and sexist government sanctioned programs around today. It should be those that have the qualifications and are best suited for the scholarship or job that get it. Your race or gender should have no bearing on that decision whatsoever. Is that how everyone else sees us? Like, we at least have statistics backing up what we say …
/r/MensRights17/10/12 12:25 AM
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I feel like this is a parody.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 03:51 AM
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Very compelling piece.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 11:36 PM
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I got it, but basically what jarandgone said. Also the message is a little jarring for those who don't know American history.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 05:26 PM
2

Showing the female breast is misogyny as well, though. Quite the conundrum.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 01:03 PM
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Yeah that's what I think'll happen too. I think I might be in a similar boat with my Linguistics professor later in the semester.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 11:59 PM
2

Alright, I'm admittedly tired of being the Devil's advocate at this point so I'm done. It was a pleasure to have this conversation with you, coach.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 11:54 PM
1

more laws are passed that target males only, Any recent US examples? Not counting the recent National Healthcare insurance thing, that is.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 11:53 PM
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As said elsewhere: Watch out with the "humanist" title. It apparently has a bad history behind it. Egalitarian is the mantle adopted by most people who want equal rights for men and women.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 11:45 PM
1

Good luck captain. Get back to us with an update if you can.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 11:38 PM
2

I... don't get how this is violence against men. Elaborate?
/r/MensRights08/10/12 11:30 PM
1

<Devil's Advocate Argument> And then you compare that 10% (and 5%) against application rate as well as qualified application rate. And the burden of proof is on you to show undeniably that it wasn't just that the applicants accepted were more qualified but that it was actually an underlying racism/sexist issue. That is a very hard thing to prove, because as I said before they have hired black people/women in the past and can leverage that against you (to paint you as upset you didn't get the job…
/r/MensRights08/10/12 11:25 PM
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<Devil's Advocate Argument> That seems to be a pretty strong argument to me, actually. If they have hired women, it's a pretty clear indication that they are willing to hire women. Especially if they have hired women in similar positions. And then you look at the company statistics and realize that said women are about 10% of the company's force (and the black people are 5%) and they've held that position since the company's inception :P. But yes, it is a strong argument because it requires quit…
/r/MensRights08/10/12 10:57 PM
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Mmmm... interestingly enough, black men make 74 cents on the dollar compared to white men. And 93 cents on the dollar using white women as the baseline. </sorry I just find that amazing>
/r/MensRights08/10/12 10:11 PM
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I really should have added **most or even many to that statement. You are entirely right.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 10:04 PM
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Devil's Advocate: Which would also be illegal, and if that claim is being made, I have the same questions. It is very difficult to prove such a claim, is likely the reason. It's probably the same reason Fisher vs University of Texas is going to fail. Unless your resume is identical to the person who got hired (save name/sex), you don't have a leg to stand on. Especially not if they can point at their other employees and say "Hey look we hired women/black people. You just aren't what we're lookin…
/r/MensRights08/10/12 06:28 PM
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Continuing to play the devil's advocate: If they're not hired, you don't have to worry about paying them less. Alternatively, there are merit systems that can be used to favor men, etc etc. It's pretty easy to get around that snippet as written. (These are not my beliefs but merely arguments I believe could be made from certain positions.)
/r/MensRights08/10/12 06:05 PM
1

You could PM him them.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 05:36 PM
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Why is that? Is it because they don't want to fight it? Or is it because number 2 is not the case? And this is where the recent study about scientists and discrimination in academia is brought up and fallaciously applied to the entire working world.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 05:20 PM
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The third edit has a list that includes them. Asian men are 110% of white men, and Asian women are 90% of white men. So, looks like the wage gap is more of a racial thing than a gender thing! Though I guess it could be argued that women are earning less than their male counterparts across the board, but looking at the first source they at least have been steadily increasing while Black Men have stayed the same for 30 years (actually decreased overall!)
/r/MensRights08/10/12 04:29 PM
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http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0882775.html Huh, so according to that source the pay gap between Black Men and White Men is larger than the pay gap between White Men and White Women. EDIT: And while the pay gap between every race and White Men has been closing, Black men have been stuck at <=80% the earnings of white men for over 30 years. EDITx2: Oo, and the pay gap between White Women and Black Men is larger than the pay gap between Black Men and Black Women (92% vs 93%) :D EDITx3: This page f…
/r/MensRights08/10/12 04:14 PM
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Oh, I knew about that study. I thought this was a different one. Yeah so capon1 was being incredibly misleading with that.
/r/MensRights07/10/12 08:18 PM
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Link to said study?
/r/MensRights07/10/12 07:33 PM
2

And it appears that you guys are, for the most part, entirely happy to be opposed to sexism as a whole- if inactively. :P Well, for most of us, are options are be silent or be shamed into silence. I have a hard time wanting to support others when it feels like they might kick me in my metaphorical (or literal) balls if I speak up about things that are happening to me/have happened to me. As a general rule, I try to call people out on doing Oppression Olympic when I see it regardless of who is do…
/r/MensRights06/10/12 10:24 PM
1

Excellent paper. Yeah, seems about right.
/r/MensRights06/10/12 10:16 PM
1

Elaborate?
/r/MensRights06/10/12 09:59 PM
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I really do want to know if MRA sees sexism as a male problem It might seem this way because many of us are often told that "misandry don't real." We see people calling others out on sexism towards women in one breath, only to turn around and denounce that men have problems in another. It's kind of depressing after a while to watch, so you have to call them out on it because nobody else will. And eventually it seems like you don't believe women have issues. That's not it, but it's that men's iss…
/r/MensRights06/10/12 09:39 PM
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Essentially, what I am asking is- do you think that there is no sexism against women in our society? Do you think sexism against women doesn't matter? I find this question incredibly condescending, for the record. I agree with the rest of what you said, but this question here is just... why would you ask that?
/r/MensRights06/10/12 09:16 PM
2

It'd be nice if we could clear up what the most sensitive part of the male body is. Apparently a lot of people believe the head of the penis is the most sensitive :/
/r/MensRights06/10/12 09:16 PM
3

Michael Jackson lighter side Ha!
/r/MensRights06/10/12 04:24 PM
2

That's a good point that I hadn't really considered.
/r/MensRights06/10/12 04:16 PM
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Man I was totally going to reference him but decided it'd be in bad taste :P
/r/MensRights06/10/12 04:16 PM
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If Person A is a 44-year-old male with a clean driving record of 20 years and Person B is a 44 year-old female with a clean driving record of 20 years, if the statistics show that males are still more likely to have a claim on their insurance then yes, they should pay more. Stats do show that around that age, gender becomes less & less of a factor to the point where it may just be a loading of a few percent. I think we're just at a fundamental disagreement here. I cannot believe, regardless of w…
/r/MensRights06/10/12 04:08 PM
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You mean it's not reasonable to expect you to be able to change cities. You could, in theory, get enough money to eventually move. You cannot do anything similar with regards to being black.
/r/MensRights06/10/12 04:05 PM
2

It's difficult until it already happens, but then insurance premiums are raised afterwards right? My argument is mostly that judging people based on things out of their control to change (such as age, gender, race, etc) even after given evidence to the contrary is a hugely discriminatory practice no matter how they attempt to justify it.
/r/MensRights06/10/12 04:03 PM
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From the other topic you wrote: There are of course other factors (type of car, neighbourhood, even times it's driven) but just on the profile of the driver themselves, "this person belongs to group x and they have a 30% higher risk of an accident, so up goes the premium" should continue to apply - gender, age and if it's all-or-nothing then sadly yes, race. I think we disagree on "belongs to group x so, regardless of other factors, he should have to pay more than group y." If person A has been …
/r/MensRights06/10/12 03:54 PM
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I'm going to stick with the other thread for this discussion, alright?
/r/MensRights06/10/12 03:46 PM
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From the other topic (and let's stick with this one): No, there should be other factors as well. These factors should not be along the lines of "Well, he's black and black people tend to get in more accidents so we'll charge him 20% extra because, y'know, black." Factors for insurance premiums should be something that you can change to reduce your risk to the company. Obviously, medical insurance would be an exception to this if only because of the nature of what the insurance is supposed to be …
/r/MensRights06/10/12 03:45 PM
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No, there should be other factors as well. These factors should not be along the lines of "Well, he's black and black people tend to get in more accidents so we'll charge him 20% extra because, y'know, black." Factors for insurance premiums should be something that you can change to reduce your risk to the company. Obviously, medical insurance would be an exception to this if only because of the nature of what the insurance is supposed to be covering. I cannot in good faith argue that someone wi…
/r/MensRights06/10/12 03:33 PM
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And I'll ask you my question again! Awesome, so hypothetical for you: If we had statistical data that said that black people were more likely than anyone else to get into accidents, would it be acceptable to charge them higher premiums on account of their race and the data to back it up? It's unacceptable to charge people for things they cannot change. You cannot become less black. You cannot become not a man (Well okay you can in this case but dropping the rates would further highlight the sexi…
/r/MensRights06/10/12 03:21 PM
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should we not take age into account when calculating premiums? Isn't that age discrimination? You shouldn't take age into account, but instead driving experience. So, no, it's completely different because you can get more driving experience by driving more/for a longer amount of time. You cannot become less black.
/r/MensRights06/10/12 03:13 PM
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Awesome, so hypothetical for you: If we had statistical data that said that black people were more likely than anyone else to get into accidents, would it be acceptable to charge them higher premiums on account of their race and the data to back it up?
/r/MensRights06/10/12 02:58 PM
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I would assume men get billed more for auto-insurance because men get in more accidents. Hey, quick question: If there were statistic saying black people were more likely to get into accidents than any other race, would you say it's reasonable to charge them more for it?
/r/MensRights05/10/12 09:05 PM
1

CDC report that I'm sure you're all familiar with Anyone have any idea how much this might skew that fact sheet, since it only took into consideration rape as they defined it?
/r/MensRights05/10/12 12:24 AM
2

Wow. EDIT: That's really all I can say. Wow.
/r/MensRights04/10/12 11:07 PM
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... I... can I get a source? I seriously can't believe this.
/r/MensRights04/10/12 10:52 PM
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I... holy shit I forgot that was the actual definition of the word. Man that is depressing.
/r/MensRights04/10/12 10:13 PM
1

Wait what? Is it a common practice to rape men in these countries before murdering them? Like seriously?
/r/MensRights04/10/12 09:51 PM
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Mmmm... fair enough. I phrased that poorly. My point was it makes the argument really weak because they, again, can say "Well it's just prison men being raped. Regular men don't have to worry about it." Yes that previous statement is blatantly false, but to the general public it's pretty easy to dismiss what's happening to people in prisons as "justified" and add to it it's going against the idea that women are raped more than men.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 10:05 PM
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And, again, the issue here is it's not representative of the general population. Well, at least I don't think it is since it's solely male prisoners driving up the statistic. Then again, it's basically the male version of the pay gap huh. Technically true, but very misleading. Until you consider the CDC article anyway.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 09:49 PM
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(referring to the article) - I meant more along the lines of how she is a rape apologist when it comes to prison. Things like "It's not rape, it's sexual assault! There's a difference! They could be lying about things!" Okay she didn't say that last thing, she said that they didn't know how it went down so it might not have even been rape. Still rape apology. That being said, I don't think it's reasonable to take prison rape and say "Men are raped more than women in the US" when it is closer to …
/r/MensRights03/10/12 09:28 PM
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I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for sources when something disagrees with what you think you know. Also, that guardian article is awful.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 04:44 PM
5

:| Oh look, an 18 minute old redditor trying to make MR look bad by posting an example of someone who was being an asshole and pretending it in any way relates to MensRights. Stop. Please.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 10:20 PM
2

I don't believe I'm subscribed to here. However, I'm browsing SRSMen right now and it's about what I expected. It seems to be more of a place to discuss life as a feminist man, which I am not. I cannot bring myself to believe that I'd be allowed to discuss anything on there as I'd want to. It would be almost the opposite of a safe space for me. I'll stick with the various Asks and OneY as my preferred discussion areas. You know, the body of SRS is actually very opposed to dismissal and shaming? …
/r/MensRights24/09/12 04:37 AM
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I patronize the people that are so unbelievably, obviously bigoted that it makes me want to cry. You seem like a genuinely good person. Why associate yourself with these people? Considering I don't post on here much? I don't really associate with anyone here. However, I do believe in the general cause. I like to keep up with what's happening as far as my own rights are concerned. What can I do to protect myself, in theory anyway. I do tend to not really enjoy browsing here because of all the fem…
/r/MensRights24/09/12 04:19 AM
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No, but I hate bigots. Looooootta male bigots out there. I assume by "out there" you mean "on here." I also assume you don't think that only men can be bigoted. Please don't call me aggressive and dismissive. What I'm complaining about in the FIRST place is how MRAs aggressively dismiss womens' issues, instead of focusing on their own. Then please stop patronizing us with laughs and "hahahahaha"s. It comes off as exactly what I said. Yes, I've noticed here that there are some embittered people w…
/r/MensRights24/09/12 03:55 AM
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No, it is fairly difficult since you're doing exactly what you are complaining about others doing. And you don't seem to realize it! You have confirmation bias right now! I'm sitting here, responding to things you said that weren't even remotely related to you and some how this random person is arguing harder than me? It was literally one post he made. One. Post. I'm not calling him out because I don't really care who has it worse! If you haven't gathered from my post, that discussion is absolut…
/r/MensRights24/09/12 03:44 AM
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Now I'm curious: Do you hate men? Legitimate question. I am getting a very aggressive and dismissive vibe from you. That you came here looking for a fight (not a discussion or argument through which either side could be convinced) and you just want to shout at and dismiss anyone you perceive as guilty for defiling your safe space.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 03:22 AM
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From what I've gathered, this person is irritated when someone else comes barging into a thread and proceeds to explain how much worse men have it than women, or brings up that men have any issues at all when discussing a topic that wasn't related to that. I do think that's a reasonable stance to take though it makes me somewhat sad that the irony of what this person is doing is lost on them.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 03:13 AM
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No, that would make the other guy an asshole. What? How does him having broken every bone in his body make him an asshole? I asked if I was wrong for being irritated that I broke my arm, when someone else broke every bone in his body. Or, rather, I asked if I wasn't allowed to have a problem with having a broken arm since someone else had it worse. So, care to explain what you meant by this? What would make you an asshole, though, would be to get together with your other friends with broken arms…
/r/MensRights24/09/12 03:08 AM
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Why does it have to be a matter of who has it worse? If I broke my arm, but someone else broke every bone in his body should I not be irritated that I have a broken arm?
/r/MensRights24/09/12 02:45 AM
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I have no idea. Some guy a fraternity invited onto campus that sat around and debated religious views (and why you're wrong for not having them) with people using fallacies and other poor argumentative tactics. Goal posts were shifted, points ignored, etc. Generally an awful experience.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 03:12 AM
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Fair enough! The things that I think might make the organization lean in the direction of extremism would probably be visiting speakers. I have not been very impressed with people (or rather, one specific person) invited to speak on campus.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 03:04 AM
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Alright, so I went to the meeting tonight. There wasn't really any man-shaming going on, just some brief discussion of events they want to plan (like a movie night) and discussion of the Fischer case (and racism on campus) as well as some discussion about how some of the girls in the group had to deal cat calling on the streets. Obviously there was some propaganda language used but I didn't really go there not expecting it so yeah. There was also some laughter about the fact that the organizatio…
/r/MensRights20/09/12 02:30 AM
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Towards was supposed to be for (as in support). Well, rather, I would love to be vocally supportive it if it weren't for a combination of fear of ostracization for (vocally) believing men have valid issues and dislike of the (admittedly) understandable frustration and vitrol I've seen on here since I started browsing a handful of days ago. But, to actually answer your question: I am in something resembling support of Mens Rights because, as a man, I have the potential to run into issues brought …
/r/MensRights19/09/12 02:06 PM
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Considering I'm fairly biased towards the MensRights group to begin with, I'd say it'd be hard to come back with an objective report captain. If it is a male-shaming event I'll let you know though! Probably won't do anything about it on campus because of the whole "Afraid to voice my privileged opinions" thing but hey!
/r/MensRights19/09/12 01:41 PM
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Oh hey, I go to UT and that event is today. Guess I'll swing by it and see if it really is a male-shaming, feminist recruiting event that you claim it is!
/r/MensRights19/09/12 01:32 PM
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