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Shera is an edge case and she should know she’s an edge case but she either doesn’t or she just does it for the clicks. I’ve watched a lot of Shera because I found her on TikTok and her mentality really fascinated me. Shera displays a lot of sociopathic tendencies in general. While I actually do agree with her statement that if you’re a young woman and you just want to be kept then go find you an old man and play him. It’ll work, if you have the right mindset. Thing is, most women aren’t solely …
/r/ExRedPill01/12/24 10:39 PM
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I think a lot of this is pretty deeply rooted in “porn brain.” Most women are doing pretty much the same sexual things with their partners that they were with their previous partners. That’s just the reality. A lot of men consuming too much RP content (particularly if it’s the “panel discussion full of OF girls” variety) get it in their head that their partners were these wild uninhibited women who were doing all kinds of deviant and wild sexual activities (that they fantasize about doing with h…
/r/ExRedPill01/12/24 10:24 PM
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I’ve done a lot of research into these guys. A few are laughably poor for the claims they make. Most could probably earn more than they do at an office job. The few that actually have money to a standard most would consider wealthy are still lying pretty substantially about their wealth. They’re also all lying about their conquests with women.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/24 08:57 PM
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No. I think he’s financially stable after his years of running his credit scam operation, but I have seen no evidence he lives in an extravagant home or owns multiple homes, and if you watch his channel long enough you’ll see he’s actually downgrading his cars. He got rid of his McLaren and bought a Porsche. That’s about a $150k-$200k downgrade. All appearances seem to be that he lives comfortably in his small house in the suburbs and enjoys driving his Porsche. I’m sure he probably does make a …
/r/ExRedPill14/06/24 03:12 AM
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No one is paying that. One thing I can compliment Cooper on is his marketing skills. This is all a relatively brilliant strategy. It makes him look really “high value” to his audience. They think “Oh wow, I hope I can afford that one day” not knowing that it’s completely ridiculous and no one with that kind of money is going to waste it talking to this guy. But, he gets to look like he’s a big shot relationship consultant. He also gets to lie and make up all kinds of stories he uses for content …
/r/ExRedPill14/06/24 03:02 AM
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“Those women did not have a choice in the matter” is the part they all ignore (or at least don’t want to say out loud.) I once heard Justin Waller talking about the role of Eunuchs in ancient courts and he described their role as “protecting the women from other men for the king.” No… Their primary function was to stop the women from escaping….
/r/ExRedPill22/05/24 12:45 AM
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I mean, that’s all cool and all but none of this has anything to do with that. What this strange bald YouTuber believes is that these are ACTUAL bachelorette parties that this porn production company is posting online.
/r/ExRedPill19/05/24 05:47 AM
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This sounds like horrible advice. I understand the psychology of how it works but the time periods are insane. I’ve had relationships with women where they’re completely in a new relationship after me in about 3-4 wks. I would think going back in after 6 months you’d just get told to fuck off a lot (or encounter a bunch of changed numbers, find yourself blocked etc)
/r/ExRedPill27/03/24 08:05 PM
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Now don’t get me wrong. I firmly believe he’s a misogynistic loser with a made up gf. What I meant was more along the lines of he knows the BS he tries to sell doesn’t work and he keeps on grifting anyway. I think the reality is that in his real life he’s probably given up on women entirely. Moff reminds me of the dopey little buddy character in a lot of movies. He’s like “That’s right boss! I agree boss!”
/r/ExRedPill27/03/24 07:59 PM
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Realistically it’s not even that, it’s just a motive issue. Myron makes money off dudes that struggle with women. It’s counterproductive for him to give good advice because the general truth about his fanbase is that when they get girlfriends they stop tuning in. So he tells guys to work out and stuff (which is good) then he immediately gives them advice that will send women running. So now he’s got a paying customer as long as that dude is listening to his advice.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/24 09:13 PM
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I’ve tried numerous times to explain to RP dudes in my age range (35-40) that IF you find a 19-21 year old who wants to date you, there’s something seriously wrong with her. I’ve never in my life spoken with a 19 year old who is dating a 36 year old and walked away thinking “well she’s healthy and stable and well adjusted.”
/r/ExRedPill03/01/24 12:43 AM
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None of these terms mean anything in actual language. Typically RP is marketing to two groups of men: Mid 20s guys who feel ignored by women in their peer group and angry men in their mid 30s who are newly divorced. To the guys in their mid 20s the idea is “if you work hard enough when you’re in your 30s these 19 year olds will want you.” To the guys in their 30s it’s “Work out and buy a watch and you can get the 19 year olds.” The game is, nobody is getting the 19 year old but other 19-21 year …
/r/ExRedPill02/01/24 06:02 PM
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That’s Rich Cooper.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/23 04:03 PM
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Myron is really a dude that worries me the most in the manosphere as far as actually hurting a woman. Myron is 100% the type of guy that absolutely thinks it’s cool to slap a woman if she’s “not listening.” During a lot of my younger years as a musician I used to supplement my income with bar and club security because it’s the same network. Myron sets off so many red flags. Just the way he behaves I can visualize him sitting in a club growing more and more frustrated because his lines don’t work…
/r/ExRedPill26/12/23 10:49 PM
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I find Donovan Sharpe to be hilarious just in that this is supposed to be this very masculine space and his channel has basically become Watch alongs and reacts to TV dating shows, which just doesn’t feel very traditionally masculine to me. Cooper is of course a favorite. “Don’t be friends with women because it’s a waste of your time because they’ll never sleep with you but if you get a girlfriend never ever let her have male friends because she’ll absolutely fuck them all.” He constantly contra…
/r/ExRedPill26/12/23 10:43 PM
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I completely agree with this Mt Rushmore. While I view the rest of your list as grifters who are wholly competent and able to understand what they’re doing is wrong, I honestly struggle a bit with ADJ. I’m certainly not in any capacity to diagnose someone based on tweets and YouTube videos, but that dude just seems damaged in a very real way. His entire understanding of the world is so childlike that I often wonder what would come of a full psychological examination of him.
/r/ExRedPill26/12/23 10:39 PM
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I also saw him on Danica Patrick’s podcast before. I don’t deny the guy does have legit networking and sales skills. He couldn’t talk his way past a competent producer but he clearly can get by the ones that just need some content and don’t have time for research. Particularly that Breedlove interview, it’s quite obvious that Breedlove was going out of his way to keep anything controversial out of it. The way they got through his “20 Red Flags” thing was they went over them in groups of 5 and le…
/r/ExRedPill19/12/23 03:24 PM
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I believe that he probably was when he was running his real business. He’s not selling enough books nor is he getting enough ad revenue to come near that. The “coaching” thing is brilliant for him because there’s no way to prove or disprove it without access to his banking info. I will say a few things: There’s a video of him showing his McLaren getting picked up for service and from the surrounding looks it looks like a very typical area. I mean not like a slum or anything but definitely below …
/r/ExRedPill18/12/23 08:19 PM
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Yes. I make fun of Cooper because it’s fun but if you want my honest assessment of his actual beliefs I think he is just a guy running a grift. I think he’s far less of a “true believer” than many of the top RP YouTubers. I don’t think he believes much of the shit he says. He’s still a massive dork that’s hurting people with his grift and he’s hilarious to mock.
/r/ExRedPill17/12/23 05:11 AM
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Based upon what I’ve seen I’ve seen no evidence of the “multi million dollar properties” and “millions in the bank.” As for the cars he recently downgraded from a car that typically sells in the $350-$400k range to a car that sells in the $150-$200k range, so you can make what you like of that. I know at one time Cooper and his brother had a credit repair business, and if you know anything about that business they’re right there with buy here pay here car lots and payday lenders as far as reputa…
/r/ExRedPill16/12/23 09:59 PM
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Just due to the fact that women consume adult content at such lower rates than men do, the reality is that pretty much any man that succeeds in the adult industry is going to be bi. Maybe if you look good enough you can pull it off turning down that many gay roles if you’re making films, but I’d bet 90%+ of male strippers are bi or gay, simply because there’s just not enough bachelorette parties to sustain you and at some point you’re going to need to entertain some gay dudes on a Tuesday night …
/r/ExRedPill14/12/23 03:27 AM
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I love how anyone who has ever tried to plan a surprise birthday party for a loved one knows how damn near impossible that is, but this bald weirdo is utterly convinced that soon to be brides routinely have gangbangs in front of dozens of friends and family and no one ever says a word. Classic Cooper.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/23 03:45 PM
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Frame most simply to him means that he feels he has authority over you and you will obey him. If you ask him to define frame he’ll soften the language a bit from what I said, but you’ll find the answer is the same.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/23 06:02 AM
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If we’re talking about the guys on YouTube, they’re all lying to one degree or another about their relationship status. Some are actually in relationships but are completely full of shit about how they behave in the relationship. Some are lying about having a girlfriend but the lie that’s told most often in my research is they actually live in monogamous relationships while they claim to be in one sided open relationships where they’re open with multiple women all of whom are closed to them. The…
/r/ExRedPill09/12/23 08:10 PM
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Well if that’s the case then OP is incorrect in his assumption that she “planned” to go back with him. She was just drunk. I’ve personally experienced both sides of this plenty of times in my life. I’ve had the friend approach and the girl go with her and I’ve had the friend approach and the girl shoot her a subtle look and the friend disappear. I said what I said because I too used to blame the friend until I realized the friend was just the buffer, the girl is the one making these calls of whe…
/r/ExRedPill09/12/23 01:32 PM
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This is not how women work. I wasn’t there so I don’t know what happened but she had her friend “rescue” her. If she planned to go back with you her friend would have excused herself.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/23 04:07 AM
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It always cracks me up when I see these guys claiming they're successfully dating 18-19-year-old virgins in their mid-30s and beyond. Growing up in a very fundamental church, I knew quite a few 18-year-old virgins. Almost all of them married 19 or 20-year-old guys that they'd dated through high school. Absolutely every one of them would have freaked out in terror at the idea of being approached by some dude in his mid 30s. Now, that being said there ARE young girls that age who date men that age…
/r/ExRedPill04/12/23 06:19 AM
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It’s exactly a dumpster fire. If you look at F&F’s view numbers on YouTube you’ll quickly see that what people actually watch for is for Myron to attack women. The basis of his audience isn’t dudes who want to learn game from this master ladies man. It’s incels angry at women who want to see Myron yell at some girl and throw her out. Whenever they do an episode on finances or whatever no one watches. They want to see Myron do the thing. That’s it.
/r/ExRedPill03/12/23 03:18 AM
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Also the twitch streamer Jack Doherty was a guest on F and F. A normal older woman was on and she proudly said "I don't even have an OF". In a serious tone Jack replied "why are you even here then?" I think when they have the "older woman" gimmick on that those are typically paid by Myron. That's my theory. There's just no logical reason they'd be there otherwise.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/23 03:32 PM
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The women on F&F are all there to promote something. Never start from the fallacy that they want to be around those two. They’re there because they’re either promoting their OF or they’re trying to get people to their streaming channel. No one is going to go on a live streamed podcast to get berated by a balding loser for the fun of it. Those women know what they’re doing.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/23 07:19 AM
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It’s not the ads, it’s the SuperChats. I mean there’s money in the ads but nothing like the money from some idiot who is willing to pay F&F $100 to make sure some Onlyfans model sees his hateful comment.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/23 09:42 PM
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That’s not correct. This thing where so many of them have either “converted” or have begun to speak favorably about Islam is because of two main factors; A) They like the way they see women treated under the strictest of regimes. B) They heard somewhere Muslim men could have 4 wives. That’s literally the only parts of Islam Red Pill guys have any interest in.
/r/ExRedPill14/11/23 12:50 PM
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I think that’s one of the reasons why they give some of the advice they do (right off the top of my head I’m thinking of telling women immediately that you’re not going to be monogamous) is to ensure their audience is constantly frustrated by women so they keep tuning in. Giving dating advice (when done correctly) will eventually take all your customers out because once they’re in relationships you’re no longer needed. So telling young guys to behave the way they do ensures they’re going to keep…
/r/ExRedPill14/11/23 06:51 AM
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Really the bottom line is that people (not just women) can kind of innately sense when you don’t like them. Have you ever experienced a situation where you’re talking to someone (for diversity sake let’s say a man) and even though he’s in no way rude to you, you can sense he doesn’t like you? That’s essentially what women feel when they talk to a red pill guy. Even if he’s smiling and not being an ass, They can just sense he doesn’t like them.
/r/ExRedPill14/11/23 06:46 AM
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FNF isn’t even really in the masculinity business, they’re in the rage porn business pretending to be in the masculinity business. Nobody watches FNF because they think they’re getting really good advice about life or money or women. They do it hoping to see Myron yell at some woman and kick her out because they want to yell at some woman and kick her out but they can’t, so they want to live vicariously through him.
/r/ExRedPill11/11/23 03:11 PM
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Narrator: “But no one was paying.”
/r/ExRedPill06/11/23 08:21 PM
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It’s a good grift for his $2000 “Entrepreneur” class. “People (the loser actually claims “athletes and celebrities 🤣) pay $5000/hr just to attempt to stay awake while I drone in full monotone. But you, you can pay me $2000 to listen to a bunch of shit I found on YouTube about entrepreneurship in a full monotone voice for half the price!”
/r/ExRedPill06/11/23 04:46 PM
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Every time I happen upon her Twitter I realize that she’s the ultimate attention seeker. She gets worse by the day. When people stopped paying attention to her nonsense she slid to “Women Shouldn’t Vote” and “Trump should be king.” “Margot Robbie isn’t hot.” She’ll say anything to keep people looking at her.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/23 02:58 PM
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I won’t address everything in one post, but I will address the 2nd and 3rd points. Always remember this: the men who make that statement don’t have much (if any) real experience with women. The reality of that situation is that young women in that “ideal” RedPill age bracket are annoying as hell. I view these statements the same as I do when I overhear middle school boys discussing “their” sexual conquests in a manner that’s clearly what they imagine sex would be like from watching internet pron…
/r/ExRedPill09/10/23 05:52 AM
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Y’all forgot she can’t be on social media.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/23 12:14 AM
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YES!!!! That is absolutely one of the most hilarious things I’ve ever seen. When he’s cluelessly talking to Tate about taking someone’s gun from them.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/23 09:28 PM
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As a musician, I’ve spent a lot of time in my life on stages in shithole bars. I’ve seen a ton of fights and been in a few. I’ve also seen vids of Cooper training and heard him discuss fighting. Based on what I’ve seen as well as the way his mind assesses combat from the discussions I’ve heard him have about it, he’d get folded up like a beach towel by pretty much anyone trying him. Cooper was the one that actually pushed me out of Red Pill. I was like “There’s no way this loser gets women.”
/r/ExRedPill05/10/23 05:12 PM
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Exactly. This is what I came to say. If you follow the all the RP advice, the most you’re ever going to get is possibly a few more swipes on a dating app, all of which are going to be immediately turned off by you. The Red Pill to incel pipeline is almost an inevitability given enough time because the longer you stay in the RP spaces and believes the RP lies the harder you’re going to take it when you realize it doesn’t work
/r/ExRedPill25/09/23 02:52 AM
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I think they actually pay them. I mean I can’t prove that. Plus if they’re smart then it’s probably a good idea for the OF girls to go on there. Those two can talk all the BS about porn and SW they want, but if I’m a girl with an OF I know the crowd watching F&F is my target demo. They’re the buyers.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/23 06:59 AM
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I’ve got to go find this. I’m no ladies man but I’ve spent enough time on stage in bars and clubs watching the mating dance happen that I’ve got a little game and I’ve always assumed as awkward and weird as Fresh is that he’s probably the better of the two. Myron strikes me as a guy who is both uninteresting to talk to as well as the kind of guy that will go 0-100 real quick in both aggression and weirdness at the slightest hint of pushback or signs of disinterest from a girl he’s trying to talk…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/23 06:53 AM
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Flew too close to the sun is exactly right. When I saw Nick Fuentes and that Zherka dude being on the podcast constantly I was like “yep, they’re done.”
/r/ExRedPill19/08/23 06:13 PM
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That was my thinking, particularly with Cooper. I’m more forgiving of Rollo since he doesn’t pretend to be “spinning plates” but the idea that women find Rich Cooper interesting was just hilarious to me. His whole personality is that he has a car.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/23 01:47 AM
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Well I mean honestly it’s a bit of a pot/kettle situation to be calling any of those guys out for that, since it’s what they all do. They all just regurgitate Rollo and Rollo just stole a bunch of shit from PUA message boards. I’ve always thought ADJ was a complete lunatic but I’ve never really wanted to call him out too much because it’s pretty obvious he’s on the spectrum, dancing on the razors edge of functional.
/r/ExRedPill02/07/23 05:25 PM
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I’m curious if his daughter even comes over anymore? I know one of the often overlooked negatives about this stuff is that if you do have children, all your YouTube videos leave just a mountain of evidence for the ex to use to show why you should have no/very limited access to your children.
/r/ExRedPill02/07/23 05:13 PM
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Most of the RP guys don’t support polygamy in the true sense. They want to live in a fantasy land where they’ve got multiple women who are sexually exclusive to them but they’re not sexually exclusive.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/23 01:07 PM
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This “We’re all going to have sister wives” thing they’ve recently all started trying to sell is both funny and sad. It comes from the Tates. I heard them discussing having kids with multiple women first. Then next I heard the big delusion, which is (noted porn star) Stirling Cooper talking about how he wants 10 children and he’s going to have 3-4 “wives” all living in the same house. Then Waller jumped in that bandwagon. None of them will accept that the only reason that lifestyle was possible …
/r/ExRedPill12/06/23 10:03 AM
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There’s a lot of RP guys that have money. In fact I’d guess that one of the largest demos in RP are guys that have a bit of financial success (not like really rich, just upper middle) and absolutely have no idea how to talk to women. These guys are some of the worst types for women to deal with because they have the horrible combination of having no idea how to talk to women and no experience doing it, yet feel absolutely entitled to 19 year old supermodel looks virgins while being overweight wi…
/r/ExRedPill02/06/23 04:42 AM
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It’s rage pron. Guys watch the show because they want to see Myron verbally abuse and then kick off the women. If you go look at their YouTube channel you’ll quickly see the highest segments see when women are being kicked off. Also, women aren’t sleeping with these dudes. Myron doesn’t even like women, he just likes to fight them. It doesn’t take a PhD to figure out Myron is happier playing “gotcha” with a woman in some pointless argument than actually seducing her. As has already been mentione…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/23 11:55 PM
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I actually think they’re going to inadvertently do some harm to RP ideology. I disagree with your statement about the guests, which is the primary reason for my opinion. One thing you have to give F&F credit for is that they never have any slips where they let a very intelligent & articulate woman on as a guest. Whatever has, a couple times. I can’t recall the lady’s name but there are clips going around TikTok of Justin Waller getting completely smoked by two different women on a recent episode…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/23 05:49 AM
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Absolutely this. It’s all going to fail you, so BlackPill is inevitable. It’s only a matter of how long.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 03:58 AM
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Tate is a tremendous coward. You’ve never met anyone who is actually brave that feels the need (completely against their own self interests) to talk about what a badass they are all the time. Literally Tate probably wouldn’t be in this position if there weren’t repeated videos of him discussing how to loverboy chicks into doing porn for him, followed by even more videos of Tate bragging about having half a dozen passports and money stashed in secret accounts all over the world and all the other …
/r/ExRedPill02/03/23 01:49 AM
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So just to clarify, you’re incapable of understanding WHY a larger percentage of men seeking to certify the paternity of their children would be higher than the general number of fraudulent paternity cases? Does the phenomenon that OBGYN’s discover more pregnancies than Podiatrists do equally confuse you? Because it’s the same concept.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/23 05:30 AM
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Your logic sucks. This is literally the “Hospitals must kill people because most people that die are in hospitals” argument.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/23 04:11 AM
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I mean, if it makes you sleep better at night…. I really don’t care one way out the other about paternity testing, but I will state that the hilarious numbers that RP guys claim exist for paternity fraud are insane. According to them, 5% of American fathers are unwittingly raising someone else’s baby.
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 05:20 AM
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I don’t mean to be rude because you’ve been quite polite but I can’t take you seriously. You claim to have been RP and PUA for years, then you claim to be unaware of one of the most easy to find base concepts of the idea. At that alone I was prepared to just disregard you as someone without the knowledge to discuss the topic. Then you proceeded and I realized that you’re intentionally attempting to white wash topics to dress them up and make them appear better than they are.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/23 08:37 PM
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I’m not sure where you’re getting your No True Scotsman “Mainstream RedPill” line from, but the things I quoted you can be found in the content put out by Rollo, Coach Red Pill, Rich Cooper, Donovan Sharpe et al. It’s as “mainstream” as it gets. I get it though, when you want to recruit new members to the cult, you talk about the community soup kitchen, not the magic underwear or the cult’s reputation for abusing women.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/23 02:35 AM
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Well, that’s not RP. It’s what people trying to sell RP say RP is. But if you believe that you either don’t know enough about RP or you have something to sell. There’s nothing at all in your description about Asshole Game, Dread Game, Plate Spinning et al.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/23 01:59 AM
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Realized it wasn’t working. Then hit the realization that it was actively harming relationships. Then realized I was doing better with women before I started all that bullshit, so I stopped.
/r/ExRedPill23/02/23 06:05 PM
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Well, yea. That’s why it’s important to be able to figure out when it’s time to go. I’ve told plenty of girls it was nice to meet them and walked off as well.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 06:46 PM
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I met my current gf through a cold approach. Here’s my take. If you want to cold approach, you need to do an honest assessment of your own abilities to read people. If you realize you’re not that great at reading people you probably shouldn’t be doing a lot of cold approaches. Let me add when I say this I don’t mean you have a strong confidence all the women want you. What I mean is that you can immediately sense when a woman doesn’t want you talking to them and instantly disappear. As long as y…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 06:14 PM
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The simple answer is that YouTube doesn’t give a shit and has a very prolonged history of not giving a shit until there’s a massive uprising. Look what it took to get the QAnon content gone. YouTube isn’t a good company at all. They don’t care about anyone or anything. Until something equivalent to January 6 happens with these RP creators, they’ll stay on YouTube, unfortunately.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 05:00 AM
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“Dread” in a marriage sub is just insanely stupid. While there’s a lot of moral and ethical reasons not to be doing dread game on women, a practical one is that it’a never a lasting solution. Yes it can “work” at first but it’s also numbing every time you do it to her. While dread may get the random player a few extra opportunities for sex with a girl that’s already considering leaving him, you pull dread on your wife and she’ll eventually just go dead to you.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 04:55 AM
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Unfortunately many men have to lose someone they value to see the damage RP causes. I know that’s not the answer you want to hear, but the realities are if you’ve been fighting this for two years then you’re probably not going to be able to talk your way out of it. If you really aren’t sure about divorce yet, do a separation agreement at a minimum and see if that changes anything. Wish I could give you a better outlook but sadly there isn’t one.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 05:25 AM
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My quick take on it is just to disregard and dismiss any discussion about dating that discusses biology or animal behavior or “evo-psych.” Whether it’s coming from a man or a woman or whomever, if they’re talking about dating and discussing those things, just ignore.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/22 03:51 AM
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They generally ignore the basic idea that women actually enjoy sex and that just like men, women tend to loosen their standards when they know this is just a sexual encounter and they don’t intend to pursue a relationship with that person. The thing is, the RP guys want to basically do everything they can to be the one night stand guy and not the long term guy, but then they get upset because their long term relationships never work. It didn’t work because you tried to make a girlfriend out of w…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 07:20 AM
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I’m just going to leave the rest of this alone and just state that when it comes to getting paid on OF, looks are a far secondary concern to marketing ability and communication skills. I’ve seen an overweight 40 year old woman thrive on Onlyfans and I’ve seen a lot of very attractive 20 year olds fail. You can be the most beautiful woman in the world and if nobody knows you’re on Onlyfans you’re not going to make anything.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 07:12 AM
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Do you believe that the majority of female Onlyfans creators have 100k followers and a decent camera setup? The “Any woman can go on Onlyfans and make 10k a month” thing is a completely fabricated lie to make RP guys feel oppressed. I know at least 8 women that I’m personally friends with who tried and gave up on Onlyfans. As I posted upthread, unless she’s got a massive IG/TikTok following or she’s gotten famous through TV or through doing porn work, she doesn’t have the ability to monetize Onl…
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 07:06 AM
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Even $1k a month is basically meaningless for the amount of hours you’d have to put in to get it. Unless you’re a celebrity with a social media following in the hundreds of thousands, you’ll work more hours in a month than you would if you went down to your local Amazon distribution center and got a job and you’ll make far less money than Amazon.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/22 01:02 AM
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You’re only jealous because you’ve been lied to about the profitability of it. Most women on OF don’t earn enough to buy a tank of gas a month. The average is only $180, and that’s including the few insane top earners. When you take them out, most women are probably doing $40-$60/mo. You really can’t run a “secret” Onlyfans and make any money since OF does absolutely no work to drive traffic to your page. The only way to have any success at all is to basically use all your social media platforms…
/r/ExRedPill18/11/22 11:09 PM
3

No you’re not. Anyone who thinks less of you for walking away from an abusive relationship doesn’t have an opinion worth considering. Also, do bear in mind that while RP does attempt to sell many things as unfair that don’t actually exist, they’re absolutely is a bias in enforcement and prosecution as it relates to domestic violence when a woman is the aggressor as opposed to when the man is the aggressor, so that makes it even more imperative that you get out before this turns violent. And it w…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 02:54 PM
1

Leave. Now. It’s not “ok” and it’s not “too bad.”
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 02:50 PM
1

As long as you’re upfront about your intentions, any interaction is ethical. I’ve hooked up with several women who knew I was traveling and was leaving town in the morning. In many of those instances, that fact was probably the reason they wanted to do it. If you’re upfront about what you desire you’ll be surprised at the results.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 06:28 AM
6

The women that are attracted to him are attracted to things like his physique, his money and his confidence. They don’t like him BECAUSE he’s misogynistic, if anything it’s in spite of it.
/r/ExRedPill15/10/22 09:53 PM
18

Pretty much all the RP content creators on YouTube have gone through breakups that are clearly traumatic that they are not over. That’s how they really get obsessed with hypergamy. They all have a deep internal longing to understand why their wife left them or cheated on them but they’re wholly incapable of doing any searching within for any errors they might have made. The result is that rather than coming to healthy conclusions like “this relationship ended because she became unhappy” or “this…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/22 04:55 AM
5

The funny thing about MGTOW dudes is that if a woman approached them in a bar and started showing any signs of sexual interest in them, they’d be going whatever the way is to her apartment real quick.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/22 04:48 AM
3

This is why getting to know someone you’re dating is so important. I mean sure, people of both genders some times have difficulties getting over an ex. If you see that’s a problem with the person you’re dating, end the relationship.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 01:33 AM
1

This is perfectly stated. If you’re feeling too deep in red pill nonsense go to a park or go bowling or something and try to talk to people. That’s a much better way of grounding yourself back into reality than reading walls of text of Red Pill guys arguing with FDS ladies.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/22 05:24 AM
8

I don’t see it that way. Women can be abusive. I don’t think anyone here denies that. I suspect some of your issue is that you’re calling things that are rejection “abuse.” I don’t know how much help you need with toxic women. Regardless of your gender or sexual orientation, everyone should leave toxic relationships. That’s universal. And it even goes beyond romantic relationships. You should end toxic relationships with family. Toxic relationships at work, toxic friends. All should be ended.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/22 03:23 PM
7

This is a perfect example of their ideas crashing in reality. While I grew up in a deeply Christian culture as opposed to an Islamic culture, the parallels are about the same. When I listen to RP guys talk about their ideal wives, it takes me back to my teen years being heavily involved in a fundamentalist baptist church youth group. I knew dozens of girls that fit exactly what RP guys on YT talk about they’re looking for, and NONE of those girls would have anything to do with these guys. They a…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 10:58 PM
3

What in the hell does any of this have to do with MLM schemes?
/r/ExRedPill27/08/22 07:21 PM
5

Unlike your hero, I’m not selling anything.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 05:53 PM
5

Anyone who creates an entire army of teenage boys looking to earn $25 to repost their videos on thousands of channels, making the guy literally inescapable absolutely deserves deplatforming. And while you’re completely wrong about his messaging, I didn’t even address it because my opinion would stay the same if he was utilizing the same tactics to spread the word about his soup recipes.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 05:39 PM
8

I’m not even engaging the freedom of speech aspect since it’s been addressed already, but I’m happy and would still be happy regardless of his messaging. Any douchebag that’s paying people to re-upload their content with affiliate links is the modern day version of the old robocaller scam and deserves a throat punch followed by a stiff kick in the nuts.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 01:41 PM
2

I don’t really know how you’d dig for numbers on that, but I’d imagine a lot of the reasoning behind it could be fear of the unknown. I’ve witnessed many people in my life, both man and woman cling to absolutely horrendous marriages because they’re terrified of the divorce process for a wide array of reasons. But most people realize the sky didn’t fall and the world didn’t end and they got back to a sense of normalcy pretty fast. So they’re far less likely to put up with the same amount of bulls…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/22 05:20 AM
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The problem with “dating advice” is it’s usefulness varies from woman to woman. People give dating advice based on what worked for them or on them. Not that it could really happen in the real world but hypothetically best dating advice you could get would come from someone’s parents or ex lovers. Because it’s specific to them. Anytime you use a phrase like “women like” you’re already losing the game. “This woman likes” is the successful approach.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/22 06:06 PM
3

The issue is that “attraction” has really nothing to do with the act of cheating. I mean I interact daily with women that I find attractive. The prime issue here is that RP guys don’t think of women as having any agency. They think women are like bass and if you run something sparkly in front of them they just instinctively strike. It’s not reality for either gender.
/r/ExRedPill13/08/22 09:55 PM
2

Watched through the cartoon, realized it’s starting with the standard race porn “Blacked” narrative and turned it off.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/22 03:30 AM
12

Well obviously I can understand how that would be painful but you can see how that’s a completely different situation than a total stranger, right?
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 06:28 PM
12

That’s my point. This is a person who at this point in time (being that no relationship has been formed yet) is meaningless to you. Why do you care what they think of you? They’re not important.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 06:15 PM
23

I don’t really understand what embarrassment you’re concerned about? I mean if I meet Becky at the gym and I get her number and text her and someone’s like “wrong number” I just delete the number and move on. Why is that embarrassing?
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 05:28 PM
13

I’ve said for a while that TRP is a self fulfilling prophecy. It’s practically impossible to actually form any kind of relationship if you follow that advice. You’re alienating everyone except golddiggers and women with some form of attachment issues.
/r/ExRedPill02/08/22 06:47 AM
1

“Getting friendzoned” simply means you’re dishonest with both yourself and the woman in question about your desires. Women don’t actually “friendzone” men, men friendzone themselves because the woman indicates she’s not interested in dating the guy and the guy decides he’s going to hang around anyway. If your desire is to date a woman and she doesn’t want to date you just leave her alone. That is a 100% guaranteed way to never end up in the “friendzone” again.
/r/ExRedPill02/08/22 06:39 AM
2

First off, that’s horrible, but honestly not too surprising. Many guys that get into RP while they’re in relationships are typically the ones who absolutely cannot manage a relationship ending. Secondly, I would seriously advise consulting with an attorney. The calling from the spoof numbers, while technically illegal in most US jurisdictions is often unenforced. However, the hacking and turning on the mic is a Federal offense as well as a State level offense in most states and the right lawyer …
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 06:14 AM
2

Along this line of thinking, it’s important to remember we’re all simultaneously at different parts in different hierarchies. I’m kind of a big deal in my local club/bar band scene. I’ve also recently taken up woodworking as a hobby and I’m definitely the beta in that environment.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 06:00 AM
3

It really depends on how you define “troll.” Is he intentionally saying things he knows are going to piss people off? Sure he is. But that doesn’t mean that it’s all just BS and he doesn’t believe any of it. Also, if you look into the real Andrew Tate outside of his own bullshit, “class act” really isn’t a proper descriptor at all. He moved to Romania for a very specific reason at a very specific time and it wasn’t pretty.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 05:59 AM
1

Like others have said, you need to do one of two things, either completely give it up or directly ask her (with a planned date and time, don’t just ask her if she’d like to go out “sometime.” Would you like to do X with me on Y? If you get anything else other than an enthusiastic yes then she’s either not into you or she’s playing games and not worth the energy. Also, in the future be more direct up front. Contrary to the nonsense you read online it’s better that way. One of the hardest things f…
/r/ExRedPill29/07/22 07:16 AM
3

I’m really surprised Stirling Cooper hasn’t become a target of the “not a real RP” arguments from other grifters. I mean dude’s a pornstar and they all talk about how porn is destroying masculinity.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/22 04:53 AM
6

When you see content on YouTube your very first assumption should be they intend to make money in some fashion. I know that’s not always the case but I’d rather assume a YouTuber is grifting and be proven wrong than assume a YouTuber is sincere and be proven wrong. This comment isn’t limited to RP content. Most likely the new creators you’re seeing are seeing the numbers that the big RP creators are getting and they’ve realized all you need to do to get all the talking points is read through a c…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/22 04:55 AM
6

Cooper was actually the guy that really pushed me out of the RP path I was going down. I just found him so unbelievable. I could believe Waller and I could believe Andrew Tate was actually getting women, and Rollo is at least honest that he’s just talking about his theories and he’s been married for like 30 years, but even in my depressed state after a bad divorce when I listened to Rich Cooper I could never believe that he was successful with women. Like I knew from my previous successful exper…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 06:13 AM
3

I always laugh when I hear Cooper start talking about BPD in his “red flags.” It’s like “when you include the rest of the advice around here, if you try to exclude women with BPD you become an incel real fast.”
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 06:05 AM
3

I don’t understand why you think Cooper “isn’t a good example.” They’re all materialistic, they all talk about cars, they all talk about how you’re not going to get women without money. Literally the only small thing different is that Cooper sells TRT. I mean, in a sea of grifters, he has one grift that no one else seems to have jumped on. But beyond that his messaging is a carbon copy of Rollo, Fresh & Fit, Sharpe and everyone else in the YouTube algorithm.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/22 03:41 AM
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What’s especially odd about it is that this doesn’t even track with any real traditionalism. I was raised by my grandparents, who were very old school on their gender roles and all that. Even in that situation, my grandma still ran the house. My grandpa dealt with maintenance inside the house and everything outside, but when it came to stuff like cooking/laundry/decorating etc inside the house my grandma set the rules and made the decisions and that’s how things went. Cooper has a similar rant a…
/r/ExRedPill26/07/22 02:24 PM
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I’d not heard the one about the toilet seat, but I know I’ve heard him multiple times say that if I woman asks you to separate your dirty laundry into lights and darks she’s attempting to “betatize” you.
/r/ExRedPill26/07/22 01:39 PM
6

BMI is a pointless metric. If you talk to some high speed military guys (the jacked ones) they’ll all tell you that they constantly skate the line of getting in trouble for having too high of a BMI while at the same time being in the 99 percentile on every other fitness metric.
/r/ExRedPill25/07/22 09:48 PM
8

Rich Cooper actually had a podcast with a male psychologist, sympathetic to the red pill ideology talking to Rollo Tomasi (one of their Guru's) about divorce and hypergamy and that psychologist who sees couples as a therapist said that he never sees that dynamic and that usually when women initiate divorce its long term issues such as substance abuse ongoing for many years without any serious attempt to get help or recover on the part of the man. In the case he used to illustrate that the woman …
/r/ExRedPill22/07/22 06:36 AM
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Exactly. That’s what I came to comment. You’re specifically seeing all these “TateLife078” type accounts that just spam Tate clips all over YouTube and TikTok and IG because Tate has literally created a pyramid scheme MLM thing to do it.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/22 01:06 AM
3

I didn’t even consider that angle. Every RP guru out there will tell you that any girl with an OF is immediately low value, so why would this data matter?
/r/ExRedPill16/07/22 06:38 PM
1

I’ve always loved this about Rich Cooper. He’s like “yea like 2 years ago I was dating this single mom, then I read The Rational Male and figured all this out and now I’m a guru too!” Then you’ve got Tate setting up a pyramid scheme where he’s paying people affiliate money to share his clips everywhere.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/22 06:33 PM
1

I think based on the way you’re going about this that you’d be quite shocked to learn the “average” woman doesn’t earn much of anything on OF. There’s a reason these girls earning like $5k/year selling feet pics are “top 4% of OF accounts.” Here’s some data, but unfortunately there’s no age breakdown: Key OnlyFans Statistics 2022 OnlyFans has 170 million users Every day 500,000 people join OnlyFans OnlyFans has 1.5 million content creators Many of the top OnlyFans creators make $100,000 per mont…
/r/ExRedPill16/07/22 06:15 PM
10

This data really isn’t going to be as helpful as you think since OF income is primarily a function of one’s branding and marketing ability and not necessarily a function of one’s beauty. I mean sure these teen Disney girls who turn 18 and open an OF rake in fortunes, but there’s a ton more of 18-24 year old girls that never get more than 15 subs. There’s also plenty of 40 something SAHMs getting six and seven figure yearly incomes out of OF.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/22 04:39 PM
9

I intended to comment on the “total number of babies you can extract from a woman” then I kept reading and found that.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/22 04:57 PM
110

I hate the “SMV” term, but it’s pretty apparent that regardless of your gender or sexual orientation if you put in effort to make yourself more attractive you’ll very likely attract a more attractive partner. That being said, “the wall” is a fantasy cope that helps guys in their 30s who are still struggling with women and have basically convinced themselves that the issue has nothing to do with any of the long list of real issues involving social skills and hygiene and standards set by consumpti…
/r/ExRedPill15/07/22 04:24 AM
21

To understand RP you have to understand that RP is trying to market to two different demos at the same time. They are sometimes targeting very young guys who feel ignored by women. At other times they are targeting dudes in their 30s going through rough divorces. That’s why their messages contradict one another.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/22 12:27 AM
10

The main problem with the RP definition of hypergamy is that, while their description isn’t totally off while women are actively seeking a partner (it is somewhat, but we’ll leave that alone for now) the main issue is that they talk as though women are constantly seeking “better” mates and talk as though every woman will just immediately leave you for any man that is a slight “upgrade” and there’s no truth in that. Furthermore the belief that that IS true causes men to behave in ways that active…
/r/ExRedPill08/07/22 10:10 PM
2

I’ve encountered a few childless 35 year old women who seemed to want to get married next month, but it’s not the norm.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/22 05:03 PM
5

Since time and time again it is discovered that the RedPill gurus are married to "post wall" women, fat, ugly, single mothers, etc, is that one can realize that the RedPill is bullshit. This. So much this. More than anything else the fact that none of these guys can even manage the most basic things that they instruct other guys to do should be all you need to know. TRP would be a lot easier to believe in if these guys who claim you should never get married and don't date single moms and any wom…
/r/ExRedPill03/07/22 06:52 AM
5

This is a nice combination of No True Scotsman and a lack of deeper understanding of TRP. Let me guess, if I asked you to describe TRP philosophy you’d talk about the importance of fitness and improving your financial standing, then tell me a little about maybe spinning plates, then stop there right?
/r/ExRedPill03/07/22 06:45 AM
4

I have an experience from my own life that relates to this. After my divorce I spent some time dating girls that were way too young because I had deluded myself into believing that’s what I was supposed to do. Finally after coming back down to reality I met my current gf, who is 36f. After about 8 months of dating she moved into my place. One day not long after that she texts me at about 3pm one afternoon and asks me to call her. I call her when I’m able about half an hour later and she informs …
/r/ExRedPill02/07/22 07:42 AM
10

Exactly. It is pretty telling that the age that RP gurus state is when men “peak physically” is the exact age that most male pro athletes and other very physical occupations like Special Forces guys view as “retirement age.” Just a thought to ponder.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/22 07:41 AM
8

I’ve never in my life met a 18-21f who was dating a 35m+ where the girl didn’t have some type of mental health issue. Daddy issues, some type of severe childhood trauma etc. Contrary to their narrative it’s just not something mentally stable women do. The only exception are the ones solely working as sugar babies. As a man I do find it hilarious when these guys will specifically target these young girls and then be like “OMG all women are crazy gold diggers!” And it’s like “yea, that’s literally…
/r/ExRedPill01/07/22 07:28 AM
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RP guys push so hard for younger women because younger women are, as a rule, easier to manipulate. That’s as simple as it gets. The RP “dating strategy” is mostly built on manipulation and games, and a 19 y/o girl is much less likely to have seen these tactics before than a 32 y/o woman. That’s why they always discuss “notch counts” and “the wall.” The secret to RP advice on women is that if it’s going to work at all on a woman, it will only work the first time she sees it. And most women have s…
/r/ExRedPill30/06/22 04:52 PM
6

Exactly. If your goal is to get a man to give you money for the least possible effort, of course you’re going to seek out the man who not only is wealthier but also has the lower sex drive.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/22 06:15 AM
3

After reading the comments I’m going to say you should leave this woman alone. Not because I think the RP is right, but because you’re not getting what you want out of this relationship. I’ve got several female friends who are true friends. Our friendship is based on mutual professional interest and not appearance. You’ve clearly stated that what you desire from this woman is a sexual relationship and it is clear that she does not desire to have a sexual relationship with you. It seems like you’…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 02:14 PM
11

No. I can’t explain the logic behind it at all but there is not a single major influencer in the RP world that is not vocally pro-life. Your logic makes more sense and I would think they’d feel the same way, but they are all absolutely opposed to abortion in any way and all tweeted in celebration and have been posting victory lap videos on YouTube since the ruling came down.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/22 02:31 PM
3

Rich Cooper opens the debate with some totally irrelevant story about how he was shit tested on a date, at a bar, and passed and was offered sex in a public restroom which he turned down. So I've reached a point where I enjoy watching RP content ironically, for the laughs and Rich is one of my favorites to watch because he's one of the most clueless creators in the RP space. I've heard him tell this story multiple times and it always cracks me up because he completely misses what actually happen…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/22 04:58 PM
6

Unfortunately there is no fast way. It took years to ingrain and it’s probably going to take years to remove. Therapy. That’s your answer. But it’s not quick.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/22 12:42 AM
2

Not just RP, but general life advice is always be very suspicious of any salesman that doesn’t use their own product. If you look into the content creators that make up TRP, you’ll find that none of them live their own advice. They say don’t get married. They’re married. They say don’t date single moms. They date single moms. They talk about “the wall.” Then they date “post wall women” (by their own definition.) Realize that none of this is real. Once you realize that the “leaders” you look up t…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 05:40 AM
3

Generally speaking, the difference in an incel and a Red Piller is that an incel is typically younger and has had no success with women, whereas a RPer typically is mid 30s+ with a divorce behind him and now resents all women. From an attempting to date perspective, most incels can’t get women because they’re too needy and awkward, whereas most RPers can’t get women because women can smell the dripping resentment coming off of them. I realized for me personally that my dating experiences improve…
/r/ExRedPill21/05/22 10:58 PM
1

Looking at the Data from their streams and YT posts, it becomes apparent people watch that show specifically to see women get kicked out. It’s a nice fantasy for the guys watching. “Yea! You tell her Myron! I wish I could be an asshole when some woman talks when I’m talking!”
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 10:41 PM
3

it gives men unrealistic expectations about what their own body should look like. The number of men I’ve met who think their dicks are small because they’ve seen giant porn cocks is actually a pretty big number. This is something that I think is often overlooked when discussing the issues with too much porn. We always talk about the unrealistic standards porn places on women's bodies but I think this porn cock standard really does mess with far more guys than will admit it. I'm slightly above av…
/r/ExRedPill18/05/22 05:51 AM
40

This. They’ve created an approach that only works on women who have pretty significant detachment issues, then they can never understand why the women “go crazy.”
/r/ExRedPill12/05/22 04:32 PM
2

Which is fine if the men could be honest about the situation they’ve put themselves in, as opposed to pretending (and expecting the rest of us to go along with) the idea that “Hey, this smoking hot 23 year old waitress is absolutely insanely attracted to me, a 48 year old investment banker on steroids.”
/r/ExRedPill12/05/22 04:27 PM
4

Exactly, and in the context of attracting women, it’s a lot easier to attract women if you’re doing something and a woman sees it and thinks “that looks like fun, I’d like to do that too.” That may be riding a motorcycle or any number of things. And the best thing about that is that if you attract a woman that way, you’ve already found a common interest with that woman.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 08:04 PM
1

His explanation is “women and men aren’t the same.” He’ll stop there and hope that works. If he gets pressed harder he’ll push this narrative that’s ridiculous to anyone who has experienced a normal amount of hookups, which is that women aren’t capable of having a purely sexual encounter, and that any sex a woman has is backed by “emotion.” And “men aren’t like that.”
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 11:53 PM
1

I think porn addiction can be a real problem and if no fap helps them then so be it. I think where it really turns into an issue is once they turn that corner from no fap to “semen retention” which is when things really get weird.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 03:37 PM
2

Sadly it’s a lack of social training. I honestly don’t think most of these guys have ill intent. I think they just have absolutely zero emotional intelligence and absolutely can’t read the room. An example; a lot of men complain about cold approaches. I’ve never had a problem with cold approaches, actually met my current gf that way. When I cold approach a woman I can tell within 2-3 seconds whether she wants me there or not. And if she doesn’t, then I move it along. I really didn’t grasp how mu…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/22 04:24 AM
3

Sure, I don’t think there’s anyone who would disagree that it’s more difficult for a mid 50s woman to find a partner than a mid 20’s woman (the same is true for men but we’ll ignore that aspect.) The big issue with “the wall” as commonly used by RP content creators is that they’re stating women over 25 have no dating value, which is absurd. All of this is based on some study that showed that men find 23 year old women the most attractive. Which is probably true, but only one factor of many in re…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 05:59 AM
3

Generally this is going to be an issue of compatibility. A woman that lives with roommates is less likely to be bothered about you living with roommates. A woman living with her parents is the same about you living with your parents. Obviously it’s more likely you’re going to encounter resistance if you’re living with your parents and she owns her own home, but that’s probably just the beginning of the issues that the two of you would hypothetically have due to income inequality, uneven social s…
/r/ExRedPill18/04/22 03:00 AM
1

Far be it for me to defend TRP ideology, but in the spirit of providing correct information, TRP is very hard on step families, going so far as to refer to anyone dating or marrying a single mom as a “cuck.”
/r/ExRedPill12/04/22 07:36 AM
12

F&F are pretty much just doing whatever the views tell them is getting the most time watched. I don’t think they believe most of their own bullshit. My problem with F&F is actually the women on the show. I’ve dated a lot and I converse with women regularly professionally and I can probably count on one hand the number of women I’ve encountered who behave like the girls on F&F. Which under normal circumstances would be fine, you’re creating content, outlandish people draw more views than everyday…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/22 07:31 AM
3

The problem with this is that it would produce just the very evil they are supposed to be fighting. The very resources they cite point out that in cultures where labor is restricted, women go for providers, and so polygamy comes to pass and a group of celibate men who can't provide are left out in the cold (until they can provide). I disagree with this interpretation. This seems to me to be precisely what the RP wants. They want to roll back to ~1950s and previous lifestyle, when women were esse…
/r/ExRedPill11/04/22 05:27 AM
2

Contrary to red pill beliefs, women in their 20s are not drawn to 40+ unless they are exceptionally wealthy, and I mean exceptional, because it's a lot to ask to marry someone you have nothing in common with and who will pluck you out of your normal life spent socializing, dating, having normal 20s college experiences. This has always been my theory, and why I laugh so much at TRPers who constantly complain about "gold diggers." I'm not "exceptionally" wealthy by any means, but I have a nice mai…
/r/ExRedPill30/03/22 06:12 AM
6

I think "grossed out" is probably an outlier response. I'm nearing 40, and if I had the opportunity to have sex with a 22 year old hottie, I probably wouldn't turn it down. Now I'm not dating them. There's no chance of that. The chances of any kind of sexual interaction occurring at all are pretty much slim to none, because I have absolutely ZERO desire to attempt to converse with a woman under 30 long enough to go through the motions to get to sex, but I'd still say they're pretty to look at. M…
/r/ExRedPill30/03/22 05:54 AM
3

“The Wall” assumes that all women (or even all men for that matter) want children. As someone who has done both, trust me that 36 year olds are a lot more fun to date than 22 year olds. They cook better, they are better at sex, they are more interesting to talk to. If you’re moving in they’re much better to live with as well. Here’s an example. Let’s say a water pipe bursts in your basement while you’re at work and she’s home. 36 year old: You’ll get a text like “Hey we’re going to need to go ou…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/22 06:13 AM
21

I think universally they all fall into one of two categories: Young and can’t get laid or mid 30’s and feel taken advantage of by an ex wife.
/r/ExRedPill20/03/22 03:25 PM
1

To actually use a RP phrasing, if she’s actually got “genuine burning desire” for you, there won’t be any “Last Minute Resistance.”
/r/ExRedPill19/03/22 01:52 AM
1

These types of comments always display a lack of experience in relationships. It’s not unusual for me to see women in their early 20’s and find them very physically attractive. But I don’t look at them and think “damn, I’d love for her to be living in my house and being forced to talk to her every day.” and “I’ll bet a 7 hour car drive with her would be a blast.”
/r/ExRedPill18/03/22 12:35 AM
2

I’ve seen tweets of him in the gym doing boxing workouts. I was not at all impressed.
/r/ExRedPill13/03/22 09:52 PM
2

The control thing is a huge issue. They actually DO want children in most cases. What they actually want though and what they hate isn’t actually women, it’s the fact that the family court system (and changing societal norms) allow a mother to leave her husband and still survive. What they long for is the days where if you could manage to impregnate a woman you basically owned her because if she left she’d be shunned by the community with no way to earn a living and be destitute.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/22 11:28 PM
6

The vast majority of young women do want young men. I always assume whenever any young girl seems to be expressing interest in me that she’s some kind of gold digger or has some kind of daddy issues.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/22 06:24 AM
20

It’s usually two things; easier to manipulate because they lack life experience and easier to impress because they don’t have a lot of material possessions. They try to throw some cartoonish evo/psych in, claiming it’s about “fertility” but they usually will also claim they don’t want kids anyway.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/22 12:03 AM
1

This reminds me of that time CRP proudly proclaimed on a video “the only men who don’t want kids are gay.” I’ve laughed at a lot of RP content, but that one really hit me hard. Almost ruined a perfectly good laptop.
/r/ExRedPill07/03/22 06:21 PM
1

I think one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard from Rich Cooper was that being asked by a woman to separate light clothes from dark clothes in different laundry baskets when you take them off was “betatization.”
/r/ExRedPill05/03/22 06:37 AM
1

I don’t know about the rest of this, but if you’re watching 8 hours of the same type of content a day whether it’s porn or Rollo videos, you’ve got a serious issue.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/22 07:39 AM
1

My best guess is he thought that keeping the child meant keeping the guy by proxy. Once he discovered that talking the woman into having the kid didn’t mean that he’d get a trapped wife for the next 18 years, he was no longer interested.
/r/ExRedPill02/03/22 07:29 AM
2

Who hurt you?
/r/ExRedPill01/03/22 11:13 PM
1

The thing about “dread game” is that I’m convinced it kills more marriages than anything. Regardless of gender, if you’re in a relationship with someone and they care about you at all and you’re just like “fuck it, I’m out!” the FIRST time you do it, of course they’re going to be like “Whoa! Wait a minute!” But it’s very quickly diminishing returns and you don’t have to do that too many times before your partner just starts shrugging.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/22 09:30 PM
5

I’m gonna say anyone who says it increased their hookups is deluding themselves. If you’re very highly attractive you may be able to find women willing to sleep with you in spite of your RP nonsense, but the chances that a guy who is very attractive ends up following TRP is pretty slim. What you see is typically the way it goes. And BTW when I say “attractive”, I mean like the top 5% of most attractive men. What I’ve observed with many men who are of average attractiveness is that they still get…
/r/ExRedPill01/03/22 05:45 AM
1

All of RP is very anti-abortion, from Rollo straight down.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/22 05:33 AM
4

My thoughts exactly. I’m pretty close to 40 and while I’m sure sex with an 18 year old would be kinda cool, I can’t even imagine what I’m supposed to do with her after it’s over. Do I drive her to McDonald’s and buy her a Happy Meal and then drop her off to wander around the mall with her friends or what?
/r/ExRedPill27/02/22 12:54 PM
5

There’s an old meme that floats around that says “No matter how hot she is, some guy somewhere is sick of her shit” and that’s the truth. My dating life changed drastically when I adjusted from trying to get with the most physically beautiful women I could get with, personality be damned and started primarily focusing on personality alongside a simpler “Is she attractive?” qualifier.
/r/ExRedPill23/02/22 03:40 PM
18

When you really find happiness in love is when you find someone who doesn’t need you, but wants you. And it should be reciprocal. Neither me or my gf “need” each other for anything but we want each other and it’s easily the healthiest, most fulfilling relationship I’ve ever been in.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/22 05:40 PM
2

Re: the OFs thing. I spent a good bit of time working in the Social Media marketing/branding space. I know a lot of women who do Onlyfans. Success in OF is mostly about knowing how to market. The girls that I know who are successful at it all could make more doing corporate marketing jobs and they’re aware of it but they do it for the flexibility and the freedom. And like you said, most girls don’t even come close. I know some truly beautiful women who bring in less than $200/mo on OFs because t…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/22 11:24 PM
1

Two issues here: 1) Building relationships like this always leaves you very vulnerable to the woman, since there’s always some other dude that makes more than you. The only way this could ever be a viable strategy for you is if are dating someone so much less attractive than you that she stays. 2) Ladies with “High Value Men” typically don’t work out of necessity, they work because they enjoy whatever work they do. And that work is rarely minimum wage. If it’s necessary for your girl to work a n…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/22 12:30 AM
3

And it’s also worth noting that realistically speaking, any early 20s girl looking to date a man in his early 40s (or older) will very likely check a few of those boxes. Young women in their early 20s who have good mental health and are trauma free aren’t entertaining the idea of dating Middle aged men.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/22 04:46 AM
4

The leeching thing is just an excuse because at least it’s something that you can actually find examples of it happening, although they’re certainly not the norm. But that’s not what they’re actually worried about. What they actually don’t like about single moms is that they’re not the first priority of a single mom. Single moms really don’t fit into the RP dating narrative because what they expect from a woman is simple; to come to wherever they’re at and have sex whenever requested, then leave…
/r/ExRedPill13/02/22 03:13 PM
2

He’s legit one of the least creative “creators” I’ve ever seen, and I’m not limiting that statement to just RP creators. The dude makes the same videos over and over (“5 reasons to not date a single mom” “the dangers of dating single moms” “6 reasons not to date single moms” “why you shouldn’t date single moms”) and his Twitter is just as lame. He retweets his own tweets from 2018-2019 about every day.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/22 01:29 AM
5

Very much. Consumers of RP content love seeing women “put in their place.” If you look at the numbers, clips of Rich and Rollo telling women how they’ve “hit the wall” perform very highly. There’s also a numbers boost whenever F&F kick some woman off their show. The guys that consume RP content live for that kind of stuff.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/22 06:08 PM
4

Exactly. It’s the exact same thing as the myriad of attractive twenty something blondes that produce right wing political content. Same exact grift, slightly different target audience.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/22 01:10 PM
12

If you go to his YouTube channel and reverse the order from oldest to newest you’ll see Rich Cooper started with the intent of being some kind of business guru. Well those videos never took off so apparently one day he released some video bitching about his ex wife and it spiked his numbers and that’s where his new grift was born.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/22 12:13 PM
2

I kind of enjoy the fisherman analogy because another thing about fishermen is that they’re usually stereotyped as completely full of shit. There’s a reason almost none of these RP gurus use their real names, why you can rarely find any information about their partners, etc. You’re not listening to “fishermen,” you’re listening to guys in rented supercars paying essentially escorts for IG photos and bragging about being multimillionaires because of sales of companies that no public records exist…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/22 09:04 PM
18

Well, I agree that you probably shouldn’t be a boring stupid asshole if you want to attract women (or for that matter have friends, be liked by colleagues, not be avoided by family, etc) but TRP correct that there’s nothing wrong with you if you got rejected. The issue is, there’s no game to be played. You didn’t do anything wrong you just didn’t find the right woman where her desires match what you offer and your desires match what she offers.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/22 06:03 PM
36

This is the mentality that you have to kill. Not wanting to be romantically involved with someone does NOT mean you’ve judged them as a “garbage” human being. You’ve got to stop thinking that way. It’s totally rational to be hurt if someone dates you for months and then decides that it’s just not working. It’s completely irrational to be hurt because someone decided “this isn’t a good fit for me” after one or possibly two dates. If you’re catching feelings strong enough to get those types of fee…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/22 05:54 PM
1

Aside from physical attractiveness, it’s also noteworthy that both Fox and Kardashian are wealthier than Kelly and Davidson.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/22 03:50 PM
141

The secret to women is that women are people and they all like different things. Once you get that, then you learn to stop taking a rejection or a bad date personally, and things get much easier.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/22 12:11 PM
8

I’ve also very sadly seen this behavior related to fertility issues. The most recent example that came to mind was a lady who was a C level exec at some tech company (32F, maybe 33F) with a decent Twitter following who tweeted out a multi part tweet discussing struggles she’s recently been going through attempting to get pregnant. The tweet was quote tweeted by a few of the RP gurus, including Rich Cooper. This obviously left her mentions full of morons telling her completely insane shit like “y…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/22 11:47 AM
2

Machine Gun Kelly and Pete Davidson said you don’t know what you’re talking about.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/22 02:08 AM
2

You better check with your RP content creators 🤣
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 11:14 PM
4

The issue is, there’s no such thing as what “women” want. A woman can tell you what SHE wants. Maybe you have it, maybe you don’t. The winning scenario is when you find a woman that has what you want and you have what she wants.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 03:18 PM
33

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it here; there is a large component of LARPing in the RP community. Yes there are a small amount of dudes who have naturally good looks and earn good money and run through a lot of dumb young women, but the rest are guys that are either on the slide down into black pill inceldom or are guys like your friend that are just making shit up. The reality is he probably begged that girl for a date for weeks on some dating app and she finally relented, and he showed up a…
/r/ExRedPill06/02/22 04:40 AM
3

An exception to what?
/r/ExRedPill05/02/22 04:53 AM
1

Thanks for coming!
/r/ExRedPill05/02/22 04:35 AM
2

I won’t ask you to get too deep but you can answer this for yourself, but very often there’s a major difference in dating a single mom with a father still in the picture and one without a father. I can tell you that with this being a newborn, if the father is not in the picture then she’s going to expect you to step into that role most likely, so you need to ask yourself if that’s a role you desire to step into. However with it being a newborn you can actually step into that role without a lot o…
/r/ExRedPill05/02/22 03:13 AM
3

I’ve always found all this “fertility” nonsense to be hilarious, coming from guys that also claim to be terrified of a woman trying to “trap” them by lying about birth control status to get pregnant.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/22 02:07 PM
8

Not universally, but a to a large percentage of the content creators, yes. Typically they love to pretend it’s about debt, but it’s not. It’s about fear of mobility.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/22 03:22 AM
3

About 18 mo now, and I’ve dated others. I will say that there’s a MASSIVE difference in 35, single mom of a teen and done with kids (surgically) and 35, no kids and wanting kids. Even though I’m not RP at all I will immediately bolt in the opposite direction from the latter.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/22 03:06 AM
6

She’s got all the “red flags” too. Single mom, career woman, college educated, makes (a bit) more than me.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/22 02:56 AM
3

It’s been a grift for quite a while.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/22 01:24 AM
13

I’m dating one that is 37 right now and she’s honestly the best woman I’ve ever dated. Chill as hell, no drama, says what she means, easy to talk to, funny and nice. She also cooks like a Michelin chef.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 10:52 PM
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I’d be kinda hesitant to really label this “Red Pill.” I mean they say it too, but it’s really much more widespread that any RP specific idea is. This is basically just an old trope of men who don’t know how to express sexual or romantic interest in a woman without giving her creeper vibes, so instead they pretend to be uninterested and hope the woman of interest chases.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 06:31 AM
6

The other side of this that I’ve read is that for women who have a fear of a real connection, these guys who are sentenced to life in prison or are on death row are actually VERY safe men. He’s at a safe distance. He can’t physically harm her. It’s very closely related to these women who won’t date anyone from their hometown but they’ll “cyber date” some dude from thousands of miles away. It’s a way of putting your partner in a safe, containable box where you can open it and close it whenever yo…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/22 04:58 PM
1

Exactly. You don’t have to listen to RP gurus very long to realize that for them, children are a trophy, not small growing humans that require both physical and emotional care and interaction. That’s woman’s work.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/22 06:19 AM
6

Rollo is really one of the most dangerous creators in TRP space in my opinion. Rollo has a gift for presenting RP beliefs in a way that makes them appear that he’s this guy who really knows what he’s talking about. And to me that’s far more dangerous than the Rich Cooper/F&F types that are so obnoxious that it’s much easier to discard. In my own personal experience with TRP, Rollo was the one that was beginning to drag me in and Cooper was the one who repulsed me enough to back away and take a s…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/22 06:14 AM
1

It’s not at all lost on me that the more you listen to these content creators, once you see past the Alpha blowhard behavior, you find very deep insecurity that they’re going to get dumped.
/r/ExRedPill30/01/22 07:32 PM
15

From my observations it’s a multi-funnel process and some stall at various points along the way while many others make it to full blown inceldom. At the start, you have a guy who for whatever reason is angry about his dating situation. Maybe he’s going through a bitter divorce, maybe a girl he truly loved broke his heart, maybe he’s just unsuccessful with women. Somehow he finds his way to searching for dating advice online and stumbles into RP content. From there, most will put forth some manne…
/r/ExRedPill24/01/22 03:52 AM
3

While I understand the concern about priority, the fact is that this is merely the nature of being romantically involved with a mother. The reason the argument against the single mom falls so flat is because say you find the mystical 24 year old virgin with no social media. You marry her and you get her pregnant. The day she discovers she’s pregnant you are no longer her priority, nor will you ever be again. Women prioritize children. There’s a reason why any organized crime organization has str…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/22 04:54 PM
1

I always assume the guys who worry about a woman’s “body count” just aren’t very good sexually and they prefer she has less experiences to compare him to.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/22 04:41 PM
2

I went through the channel, I see this guy just voices over other’s content. I’m sure he’s a millionaire Alpha man with spinning dozens of plates all of which are 8+.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/22 12:55 AM
5

And if he ever got with a 25 year old, you can rest assured that she’s just milking him for whatever money she can get from him while getting her sexual needs met by a 25 year old man she knows from her gym. His own asinine dating strategy is fulfilling his own prophecy of hypergamy doom.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/22 06:07 PM
8

The ultimate goal of RP is to basically go back to a time where women were essentially trapped in a marriage because she’d live in poverty if she left. So the single mom is the ultimate villain to that end. It’s like a “bro-code” type thing with them. “How dare you date a single mom?? She should never be allowed to move on, she should be lonely forever!”
/r/ExRedPill18/01/22 04:54 PM
6

It really is quite the ordeal once you hit 6’. Every time I walk out of the Costco it’s like that iconic footage of the Beatles walking out of their hotel and getting chased by women to their limousine.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/22 08:35 PM
8

To really understand the reasons they push the things they do, you have to step back and understand the RP goals and motives. Almost all of these guys have been divorced. Their big end goal is they want to return to a time when women were basically financially enslaved to men. This is why they push the narrative of only dating these very young women. Because regardless of gender, if you’re 24, you’re probably not very successful in your career. So the narrative is that you go out and you find a …
/r/ExRedPill17/01/22 08:25 PM
18

This is especially true with the shorter dudes. I’m 6’ and to hear these dudes talk one would assume that everywhere I go, women just throw themselves at my feet. They’ve convinced themselves that because they’re 5’9 or whatever they can’t possibly ever find a woman.
/r/ExRedPill17/01/22 05:39 PM
13

Even in America most of the crazy behavior you mention is outlier behavior that TRP content creators blow up and pretend is routine behavior. Most women I’ve encountered in my life do appreciate varying amounts of masculine behaviors but honestly most women that I know of would instantly reject someone who followed all the RP advice. Just because many women are appreciative of the fact that you can change a flat tire or fix a step that is making noise doesn’t mean they want an emotionally dead m…
/r/ExRedPill16/01/22 05:25 AM
3

I’m a car guy myself although I’m more into American muscle than European Supercars. You can tell he’s not real because in real life the car may get you a second glance but it’s not gonna get you laid or definitely get you in a dating relationship. I know there are some exceptions but women by and large don’t care about cars. Cars to women are an indicator that a man has money. Nothing more. That will get you out on a date but then you still have to have the personality to get yourself laid/in a…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/22 10:30 PM
14

I think where I really strongly realized Cooper was completely full of shit was a video where he was responding to an email about how to deal with “shit tests” and one of the examples he used was if a woman was calling you names to reply “Look Becky, your thirsty beta orbiters might tolerate name calling, I don’t.” The fact that he actually suggested to guys to use the term “thirsty beta orbiters” when talking to a woman told me this guy literally spends all his time talking to these RP guys bec…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/22 06:20 AM
20

Cooper is really the one that really turned me off from RP and backed me off. I was listening to Rollo and Rollo at least seems like he’s done a lot of research and he seems to approach TRP from a bit of an academic view. That’s not to say that’s true, but he presents it in that manner. With Cooper it’s incredibly obvious that he’s got a severe case of resentment and rage for his ex wife and he really gets off on “obedient women” and also angering women enough to call into his YouTube streams so…
/r/ExRedPill15/01/22 03:06 AM
9

Every guy that ever calls in to talk to Cooper is a millionaire. I find it hilarious.
/r/ExRedPill11/01/22 05:38 PM
10

Obviously not EVERYTHING RP says is wrong. All the stuff about staying as physically fit as possible, maximizing your income, focusing on finding hobbies you enjoy, all that is really good stuff that’s not just good dating advice but great life advice. All that stuff about how your wife of 20 years will go have an orgy with 4 “Chads” on your front lawn if you ever show any signs of emotion, that’s clearly false.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/22 10:37 PM
1

That guy is “Texas Dom.” As far as his general views on women go, he’s a lesser offender. He’s basically in a consensual BDSM relationship with his wife and likes to talk about how it “saved his marriage.” He’s definitely got some old boomer takes on masculinity and “manliness” though.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/22 02:57 PM
6

Women weren’t any more “pure” in those days. This fascination with that period does provide excellent insight into what the RPers actual problems are though. Women were more “faithful” back then because of three main factors: 1) Women were financially wholly dependent on their husbands. Little job opportunities for women and once you had children those opportunities dropped even further. 2) Divorce was almost impossible to get if a woman was requesting it 3) Domestic violence laws were a complet…
/r/ExRedPill08/01/22 01:07 PM
18

As a white guy on the outside looking in, it’s always been rather surprising to me to hear black content creators like F&F longing for the “good ole days.” It’s one thing when you hear a white dude do that, but it’s especially shocking and jarring to hear a black man long for the way things used to be in the 1950s and further back.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/22 01:27 AM
4

Cooper has always been hilarious to me. This dude is such a poser. I don’t care if he does have a couple nice rides and a “Body By TRT” This dude has the personality of wet sandpaper and there’s no way he’s attracting a lot of women.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/22 05:38 PM
2

The sales thing is a great comparison because every one of these guys is selling something. Some have books, some have online courses, some do video consults and most do all of the above, but it’s always critical to remember these guys are all doing this for the money.
/r/ExRedPill02/01/22 10:16 AM
3

It’s not even true poly. Most of the YouTube Gurus that I’ve heard discuss the topic of Spinning Plates basically imply or outright state they expect the women to remain monogamous to them.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/21 05:25 PM
6

“Game” can be learned but it’s not something you can learn from a book or some guy on YouTube. People don’t understand that game isn’t some set of rules of “do this” and “never do this.” Those “rules” exist because they seem to apply to a decent amount of women. But what game actually is is the ability to read people and situations and pick up subtle cues and exploit them in different ways to achieve a desired outcome. And that you figure out through being rejected countless times.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/21 03:32 AM
12

It’s gotten to the point now where I was watching some Rich Cooper video the other day and he’s now advising his cult to stay away from the commonly stereotyped countries and only do it if you’re intending to move to those places to marry her as opposed to bringing her back to the states. I thought that was hilarious. Like you’re willing to live in some place run by shady cartels and military leaders just because you so badly need a wife that never questions you?
/r/ExRedPill27/12/21 02:55 AM
33

This is always fantastic. RP Guru “Never let a woman use you for your money!” Also RP Guru: “Go to a third world country and find a woman. They love you for you, obviously, and would never see you as a ticket to the US/UK/Canada”
/r/ExRedPill26/12/21 07:40 PM
18

“But the notion that 50 year olds are going around picking up 22 year olds is dumb and cringey” Absolutely. What’s funny about this is that one of the RPs greatest fears ever is being cheated on and doing this is a guaranteed way to get cheated on. Sure she likes riding around in your Italian Supercar and flying off to a getaway in the Bahamas, but she also has sexual needs that you’re not fulfilling, so she’s banging some guy at the gym that’s probably 25 max. Then they talk about guys dating s…
/r/ExRedPill26/12/21 05:22 PM
11

The whole “younger women” thing the RP guys strive for has always amused the hell out of me. I think the difference in me and the RP guys is that I’ve actually dated these women when I thought that was “the ideal.” I’m in my mid 30s now and 30 is absolutely my minimum age to date. I’ll give them (to an extent, although it’s not as universal as they like to sell) that the younger women are more physically attractive. However, they’re also not as fun to talk to. They’re often quite immature. They …
/r/ExRedPill26/12/21 05:11 PM
7

I’ve seen a lot of guys that have lost girls that sounded like girls they really cared about to that whole “spinning plates” theory.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/21 07:33 PM
1

Ah, so we’re going to No True Scotsman RP then? Any statement I present either won’t be a “Core value” or the person making it won’t be “true Red Pill.”
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 10:45 PM
1

What is “Mainstream Red Pill?” Because most of my knowledge of the subject comes from watching Rich Cooper and Rollo videos. I would’ve assumed that’s pretty mainstream. I will give you that Rollo doesn’t seem as bitter and generally needlessly aggressive toward women as Rich does.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 04:41 PM
3

Mine would be more of a “That’s not how any of this works” comment than something that’s really just offensive, but the advice that you need to be sure to flush condoms after sex, because women will get the condoms out of the trash can and impregnate themselves if you just leave the used condom in the trash can.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 02:43 PM
7

Exactly, I’ve tried to tell a lot of guys I know that are into this RP stuff that some guys get women IN SPITE of being assholes, but absolutely NO ONE gets laid BECAUSE they’re an asshole. There’s no woman anywhere that’s like “This guy only texts me back after I text him 3x! I must fuck him!”
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 07:34 AM
5

I’d agree that mixed in with the ones who just get off on abusing women because they’re jaded and angry are the ones that think you can only get women by acting like a douche.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 07:26 AM
4

Yes, nothing is guaranteed in life. Very true.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 06:22 AM
8

One of the few things that the RP gets right is that you don’t, in fact, NEED a partner. Yes it’s very nice, but it’s amazing how much you can improve your mental health by instead of feeling like you must “go find someone else,” say “go find a new hobby to master” or “go become an expert in this area that has always interested me” or “go to the gym every day, use the date fund to hire a trainer.” Just in general, love seems to come when you’re not looking for it.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 04:49 AM
39

The more I’ve studied this the more I’ve decided most of these guys are truly, when you get down to their core issues, more interested in abusing women than they are in having relationships with them.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 03:11 AM
1

All I’ll say is that all of sounds reads like excuses and self imposed barriers to me. It’s the mentality of guys that start looking for reasons for why they can’t have what they want instead of trying to figure out how they can get it. I don’t have any delusions that one day I’ll be with Taylor Swift or anything, but I’ve had the pleasure of dating some women for long periods of time who were way too attractive to be dating me, assuming that’s the only relevant factor in dating. Which I don’t b…
/r/ExRedPill20/12/21 06:34 AM
1

Of course they’re going to say that. Nobody is going to be like “Yea I think you’re ugly as hell but I’m with you because you’re funny/rich/scary whatever. Do you think women tell Kieth Richards they’re not attracted to him?
/r/ExRedPill20/12/21 06:19 AM
3

But even the RP gurus admit they get rejected regularly. The entire premise of “spinning plates” is an acknowledgement that women reject them frequently and maintaining simultaneous dating relationships with multiple women is a way to safeguard against that rejection they admit they know it’s coming.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 11:17 PM
1

No. I think this is a vast misunderstanding of the dating world. Relationships fall apart all the time very early for an array of reasons. You’re on a completely different topic now. If you were able to “get to know her a little bit” it WASN’T looks. She liked something about you enough to give you her number/let you see her/ whatever happened. It could have been something you do annoyed her. It could have been that an old lover came back into her life. It could have been any number of factors (…
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 10:58 PM
3

I don’t understand the “stacked up 20 to 30 rejections” line. Why is that an issue? At present I have a gf but getting rejected 20x is just a Friday evening out for a lot of men, myself included. I think being able to accept some women are just gonna reject you and you smile and try to talk to the next girl you find attractive is one of the hallmarks of successful dating.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 10:37 PM
3

I dunno, if that’s your experience that’s your experience. Honestly what I rarely see is a man with a woman far below him in the looks category. I see ladies with men far below them in looks all the time. Based on my personal life experiences I’d say that humor and confidence are more important than looks when you’re a guy. I’d consider most of my relationships to be above me in looks. But I’ve been a musician (guitar/bass/keys) since I was 11 and I’ve been performing in front of crowds since I …
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 03:16 AM
6

There is no “most important.” That’s something you hear from RP dudes. Attraction is more complex than this but think of it like a 100 point cumulative system. You can have 1-10 on looks, 1-10 on money, 1-10 on personality 1-10 on whatever, and your cumulative score is what would matter. I hate trying to quantity things in this simple way that doesn’t cover the myriad of variables in play, but a simple look around you would tell you that the premise that there’s no circumstance in which ugly dud…
/r/ExRedPill19/12/21 02:54 AM
3

Rollo and Rich Cooper. Rich claims he’s just in an LTR but if you pay careful attention in his videos he’s been wearing a wedding band for a while.
/r/ExRedPill17/12/21 07:35 PM
7

The kings of the RPers are both married dudes who live in monogamous relationships and don’t “spin plates.” It’s mind boggling to me that people follow this nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill17/12/21 07:16 PM
4

Regarding #3 Something I learned in a situation not regarding RP is that sometimes after a certain amount of time has passed you just need to leave people alone. If you hurt someone last week then an apology may actually help them, but if you really seriously hurt someone years ago, sometimes approaching them even with the best of intentions and only to apologize can reopen their wounds and hurt them again. Obviously like most of life, there’s no hard and fast guidelines for this, but before peo…
/r/ExRedPill16/12/21 07:15 PM
3

You stated you “stay away from this embarrassment.” That’s a mental block you’ve got to fix that will open a lot of fire doors not just in dating but life in general. You don’t know until you ask and there’s no embarrassment or shame in being told no. If a girl tells you no, don’t get upset and go into a dark place, just smile and say “Well it was nice to meet you” and go talk to someone else. You’ll start hearing yes the more you ask.
/r/ExRedPill16/12/21 04:21 AM
1

Here’s a great 4 minutes on “Alpha” https://youtu.be/0Ti86veZBjU
/r/ExRedPill15/12/21 01:02 AM
6

I am definitely NOT anti porn but I think a lot of this has to do with unrealistic expectations set by both porn and mainstream movies. I think those of us who have had numerous relationships have had at least one that was really hot right at the beginning where the sex was just constant. It’s not a realistic expectation to think that will go on forever, but apparently that’s what many people expect.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/21 07:16 PM
14

That’s why I find the whole “warning” if never dating girls with daddy issues to be hilarious coming from them. If you follow the rest of their advice the only women who are ever going to speak to you for more than the few minutes it takes to figure you out are those with detachment/abandonment issues. Or kids. I guess that’s why they push that “Wall” thing so hard. I’ve never personally tried it because the immaturity would drive me insane but I’d imagine you could get a lot of this crap by an …
/r/ExRedPill13/12/21 05:50 PM
26

“What’s the point of denigrating the single mother?” Revenge. Pretty much all of these RP content creators have had messy divorces and feel like they’ve been screwed by the family court system. They often also can’t move on from the relationship either, so they want to try to make sure the women leaving those relationships can never move on either.
/r/ExRedPill12/12/21 02:07 PM
5

The reality is, there are no reassurances you won’t get cheated on. That’s just life. That’s why it’s important to move slowly and get to know people before you get too committed. Even that may or may not work, you may still be cheated on. This, as an aside, is where RP really fails men. By following RP dating advice, you’re essentially self-selecting for the most superficial and difficult to maintain good relationships with women, which likely actually increases your likelihood of being cheated…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/21 01:45 PM
4

Nothing in that image has anything to do with a “happy relationship.” It’s easier for very attractive men to set up random hookups. In the end, this is a self fulfilling prophecy; whether you believe you’re good enough to date or you don’t, you’re probably right.
/r/ExRedPill12/12/21 12:26 PM
21

Just slow down. Trust with anyone, regardless of gender and even regardless of relationship type takes time. Whether it’s a romantic relationship or a business relationship, it takes time for trust to build. When you’re going to make yourself vulnerable, like in a romantic relationship it takes time for you to build up the trust to be willing to do so. Just slow down and let the trust build and if the person breaks the trust then leave. That advice is universal, regardless of whether you’re a ma…
/r/ExRedPill12/12/21 02:35 AM
3

The simplest explanation is Nihilism. But really to understand Black Pill you’ve got to understand Red Pill. Red Pill teaches you that you’ve got to do these “things” (just for brevity’s sake we’ll just us work out and increase your income.). So you do those things for a while. They don’t work. You’re still not getting the promise of women throwing themselves at your feet. So now “all is lost.” Life is pointless and now you’re a Nihilist. That’s how red pill interconnects with black pill.
/r/ExRedPill11/12/21 10:23 PM
5

Honestly I think that online dating probably isn’t as good of an option as more traditional ways of meeting and interacting if you’re not as naturally attractive. I wouldn’t use the word “impossible” for online dating, but I’m an average looking guy that could stand to drop about 10 lbs and I’ve personally had far better results through introductions through friends etc than online dating. I met my current gf at the grocery store. Helped her get a bag of chips off the top shelf. If she was takin…
/r/ExRedPill11/12/21 01:45 AM
16

I agree with this. Normally I’d never encourage this, but yea if you think this is the way, give it a shot. Find a woman you desire, be an ass on dates, don’t respond to messages from her and see what happens. It’s my belief that this stuff thrives because a huge majority of it’s consumers don’t actually date at all, they’re simply incels who use RP ideology to justify their choices.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/21 05:57 PM
4

Really? https://twitter.com/rich_cooper/status/1466550524090753028?s=21 https://twitter.com/rich_cooper/status/1466075726717849604?s=21 Most of these dudes know what they have to do to stay on YouTube which is a big income generator for them. Check their other socials and you’ll find plenty.
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 06:24 PM
2

The one positive of the RP narrative is when they say to watch what women do, not what they say. However, I’d advise Red Pillers to apply that exact same advice to the content creators they watch, buy the books and seminars and multivitamins etc of.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 06:28 PM
1

I can’t believe you haven’t had more success trying to get dates on LinkedIn.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 05:09 AM
8

I realized it was all just a grift. That and the hypocrisy. If you do a little background, most of the RP content people are all married in monogamous relationships, while telling you to never get married and spin plates. To add, I’ve never truly considered myself RP, I came across Rich’s content on YouTube which then led me up Rollo. It’s really bad advice that is harmful but I can see how one could be sucked up into it. I just wanted to point out the hypocrisy and constant grifting here in hop…
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 03:58 AM
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