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This. Those men are cosplaying “good men” expecting women to instantly reward them with sex. Women can tell when a man is faking certain beliefs and qualities to get into their pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 06:49 AM
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The problem is they are “performing” these things with an expectation of sex on the spot in return. They are not trying to use these things to maintain a real relationship - they are using these things to move in quick with sex, find something “wrong”, and leave the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 06:46 AM
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This… and men still keep saying “if a man is hot you will beg for sex” to women who keep telling them that is not true. We don’t get aroused simply by seeing a cute man and, even if we did, we still wouldn’t just start having sex due to risk of STI, condoms breaking, birth control causing side effects or failing, pregnancy, abortion, etc. All of those things would still stop us from having sex until we knew the man and had a defined relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 06:40 AM
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This. If those types of men stopped approaching, everything would become easier. Going to the gym, shopping for groceries at night, etc. It’s like the men who think that older women are not getting male attention. Older women still get male attention but it comes from even more ruthless men who think they don’t have to respect her at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:24 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:20 AM
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Not under those circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:18 AM
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Exactly… every post by a man in this sub can be reduced to “I am a man and my penis must be in a vagina instantly and remain there at all times”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:12 AM
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Men would love nudity because then they could just rape easier or “accidentally” touch private parts. Of course, men would want to convince women that covering their bodies makes things worse 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:09 AM
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The point is that it is never supposed to progress to sex until a relationship has been established - not in the gray area. Having sex within the first few dates is like eating dessert before dinner. The dinner might contain foods that are good for you but you don’t necessarily like, but if you skip to dessert, you will be already satiated since that’s what you really wanted - but long-term, you will have problems if you only ever eat dessert. Men are trying to skip dinner (getting to know someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:06 AM
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Exactly because even a hooker would charge much more than their stupid Applebee’s meal. They are literally trying to pay $20 for sex with a woman who never said sex was for sale.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:43 AM
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You implied it by saying he “only gets a kiss” after paying for the date and then masturbates (which strongly implies he was hoping for sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:42 AM
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Exactly and women still make all of the decisions affecting the children, cleaning, clothes, etc. because the men just check out. I knew a woman who had to leave work and risk her job because her fiancé took her son to school registration without documentation (on the last day - no less) and then said that he would not return after getting the documentation, so their son would just have to wait until next year and be a year behind 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:11 AM
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Exactly… they want us to poison our bodies, get abortions, etc. just because they want to have sex with every woman they find attractive without any commitment or resposibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:54 AM
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And the same men wonder why women don’t give up sex immediately because “sex is like a handshake” 🙄 As if women are supposed to risk STIs, pregnancy, abortion, side effects of birth control, etc. just because a man she just met wants a semen receptacle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:48 AM
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This and this is the same reason that women do not view men favorably… they usually approach for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:24 AM
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All of that is just you saying “I want sex every time I see a woman and I have no control over a tiny organ”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:17 AM
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Wrong. Stay away from me no matter how you look unless you noticed something about me other than my body and want something from me that does not include sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:15 AM
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Exactly. Hygiene is not objectifying. Objectifying is about seeing someone as a sex object only.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:09 AM
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Men are approaching for sex. That’s the problem. If you want us to “come down to earth”, then stop trying to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:07 AM
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Nope… because your first thought was sex if you don’t know her. How many times do we have to say that looks, etc. become irrelevant when you approach strictly for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:05 AM
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Which is why you shouldn’t approach, because approaching her when you don’t know anything about her means that you objectified her and you are approaching boobs and butt - not a real woman that you see as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:24 PM
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This. They just see hot woman and want sex. It’s so animalistic. Dogs just walk up and insert their penises without talking but men should not be doing what dogs do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:21 PM
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Rare… but if you never committed to the woman and told her directly that you want an exclusive relationship and tried to imply things with your penis instead of using your words, then don’t be surprised if she starts a committed relationship with a real man who waited for sex and treated her like a human being and discussed commitment with his mouth instead of his penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:19 PM
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It would be a miracle if men like OP left women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:00 PM
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Wrong but men can’t type a response without consulting with their penis first, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:58 PM
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But sex is not the price of a meal…even prostitutes require higher prices. The fact that this woman is with you and might one day clean your house and have your babies is more than enough payment for your stupid meals. Even so, some women pay for their own meal for this reason. What mental gymnastics will you do to try to convince them that they owe you sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:55 PM
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A relationship can be romantic without sex. If you’re holding hands and kissing, then you are not in the friend zone. No need for sex to define anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:53 PM
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And a clear relationship has been established
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:52 PM
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Wow… that’s very rapey… so if you escalate sex and a woman blocks you but runs into you later then she “has to” have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:51 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:46 PM
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Exactly. I think this is why so many men rush to sex. They want to feel like they got something for their time when they should not be making everything transactional in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:25 PM
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This and they absolutely cannot see women as actual human beings where you do something because you care about them. It’s always transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:24 PM
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The fact that he paid for the date doesn’t entitle him to sex. That’s where men keep getting it wrong. Sex is not transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:22 PM
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Wrong. If you escalate without having established a relationship, you will end up in enemy zone with your number blocked. There is nothing worst than a man you hardly know pressing for sex. I think you know that and you just want to make an excuse when you really just want sex anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:19 PM
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Exactly. In general, men are not competing for the same woman. Usually, men are going from bed to bed trying to make each of those women compete for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:17 PM
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It really bothers you that men are controlled by a tiny organ, doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:15 PM
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Well, I guess myself and all of my friends are “higher beings” 🤷🏼‍♀️ I’ll embrace it. It’s great not to be controlled by private parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:14 PM
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A woman can’t objectify herself unless you are seeing women throwing themselves naked onto men at random or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:40 AM
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That is warped. I am never attracted to a guy upon first meeting him at all. I have to see his personality, how he treats people, and how he treats women as a whole. I also don’t believe in sleeping with men before marriage, so I would never sleep with a man on the first date no matter how hot he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:39 AM
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None… because none of those options factor in that women need an emotional connection and a committed relationship to even want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:35 AM
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This. Exactly, and no matter HOW much we tell them, they refuse to understand that we don’t think with our vaginas like they think with their penises. Therefore, no matter how hot a man is, we don’t want sex unless we have something in common and a committed relationship starts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:33 AM
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Exactly. They’d rather pretend to have the right qualities until they get sex rather than actually find a suitable match and have a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:29 AM
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This is exactly why you are not getting any women. Women are not semen receptacles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:28 AM
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I think he is confusing “escalate” with “initiate”. After a clear, committed relationship has been established, then a woman might want a man to initiate intimacy after talking to her about it to confirm, but she doesn’t want him “escalating” intimacy before a relationship has been established.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:27 AM
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I honestly sometimes wish we did that in the west… covered our whole bodies. Maybe it would force men to try to get a decent woman instead of just trying to get sex with a woman, since they won’t know how she looks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:13 AM
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They also thinks it’s transactional. “I complimented you so you owe me sex”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:11 AM
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Yes!!! They always complain about having to put on an act, but if they actually select women that they have a lot in common with, they really would not be putting on an act. The problem is, they want the prettiest woman to give them sex immediately without having anything in common and, when they finally tire of the sex then they dump her and move on for “not having anything in common. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 11:05 AM
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Particularly the reply OP just gave to a woman saying that men should stop complimenting women since it just boosts their egos but the men don’t get anything (sex) out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:39 AM
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Yes!!! I can’t stand the “I just want to be your friend” and then, weeks later “can we have sex?” 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:32 AM
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It’s not even “work for it”… has to do with how his mind works. If all he can value is the idea of sex when he approaches, he might as well not even approach. If he values something else that he noticed about her, then he can approach. Just take a second when you want to approach and think about what do you value about her. If it is just her body and the possibility of sex, don’t bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:31 AM
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They are into sex with female bodies but not women as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:28 AM
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Exactly… I think some men would be flattered by a woman saying something like “I like your body. Can you meet me at my house tonight?” even though they would not go, so they can’t understand why women would not be flattered when we are biologically wired to look for fatherly characteristics before being turned on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:26 AM
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Exactly. No matter how gorgeous a man is, I cannot feel attracted unless I know who he is as a person and I feel like he values something about me other than my body.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:23 AM
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I agree, but I am thinking that it is more of an expectation of sex and a confusion about what it actually entails to get it. A few days ago, a man posted about how he dumps a woman every time he has sex because the sex was not satisfying. It eventually became apparent that he was not even talking to these women about sex or which sex acts he was going to do nor was he communicating if the sex was not what he wanted. He said that sex is “performed” and “never discussed”. 🙄 These men think that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:56 AM
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Women typically do not want to have sex simply because a man is hot. He has to value something about her other than her private parts. On the off chance that the sight of him does make her want to have sex without knowing him then usually he no longer wants her. Men don’t like to have sex with women who are also freely throwing around sex. They want it from the women who would rather be in a relationship first but they want sex from these women while bailing on the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:42 AM
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I think the men who post here seriously are intellectually disabled because they don’t understand nuance at all. Being in a social circle and approaching a woman because you like her character is completely different from cold approaching a woman because you like her boobs. Yet, these men can’t see that and, if they can’t approach random women for sex, then they don’t want to approach at all to “starve us of attention” or “teach us a lesson”. Let the sex-crazed rigid men take themselves out of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:34 AM
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Men should leave women alone but your reasoning behind it is flawed. You want men to be bitter and think that women just get so much attention that they need to experience less of it. The real reason men should leave women alone when it comes to cold approaching is because they are approaching for sex only.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:25 AM
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But that’s what men are not getting… it’s not about too many men or the value of approach being lowered. It is about cold approaching being disgusting from the beginning because men are only doing it to have sex. These men would not approach a woman with whom they could not see themselves having sex. Have you ever seen a man cold approach a woman who had on a lot of baggy clothes to the point in which you could not tell what kind of body she had? Rarely. Again, it is not constant supply. It is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:22 AM
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That’s literally not it. Men refuse to get it through their heads that women do not want to be objectified. They just want to mope about women not liking cold approaches but do not want to admit that the point of cold approaching is basically to have sex. It is not flattering to a woman for her to know you just imagined her naked and in your bedroom. The only way that a cold approach will work is if something other than her body drew you to her, like if you overheard her singing or saw her handl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:58 AM
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True but why can’t they have sex with women who also want no strings attached… that’s the problem. They want no strings attached sex with multiple women who are all monogamous and want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:45 AM
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This. Male loneliness is literally about men who want to have sex with no strings attached but they don’t want to have it with the women who want the same thing. They want to have it with women who want relationships and feel the power if stringing them along.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:11 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:09 PM
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This. It depends on the reason. If the entire conversation is still just a scheme to get sex, then I’m not up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:09 PM
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This. While is is somewhat right, it is still annoying to be conversing with ChatGPT instead of an actual person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:45 PM
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He IS using them for sex; that’s why he keeps making excuses for every piece of advice here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:55 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:54 AM
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You sound kind of autistic TBH if you didn’t know that people need to agree on sex acts before trying to perform them. You might want to get checked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:54 AM
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You are looking for casual sex because you are not going to even try to have LTR unless someone can participate properly in your kinks, which no one is because you don’t communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:51 AM
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Exactly… it is not some weird time to do surprise sex acts and then wonder why no one is satisfied or someone is uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:43 AM
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Women would at least try to answer this question. We’ve already seen a few men (and women) ignore the parameters and try to include cheating. Imagine how many men would have done even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:43 AM
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He can break up but he IS using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:41 AM
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I agree that men should wait but sadly, most men won’t wait unless sex is not available due to the women waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:39 AM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:37 AM
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Literally just to see what men would do or what people think they would do if men could not have sex with any women unless they were married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:55 AM
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No… cheating would not be allowed because NO women would be having sex except with their husbands. Why is this so hard to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 06:53 AM
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I’ve never watched that but I have seen similar shows… However, in my example, that wouldn’t be allowed. The point is, what would men do if they could never get their penis inside of a vagina without being married to the person whose vagina they are using. That means no access to other vaginas. I’m sorry to be so graphic, but people keep trying to find alternative means that do not fit within the parameters of the scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:52 AM
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I know. I come from a similar religious environment but AS THE OP, their answer was fine. It represented a society where women don’t have sex outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:48 AM
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I am OP. I know what I asked 🙄 Their example was still a good example of a society where women don’t have sex before marriage. My example didn’t give a reason, so women would be choosing not to have sex for any reason they want in my example.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:36 AM
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That’s crazy and that’s why you and the women keep being dissatisfied. Is there a reason that you can’t discuss sex openly?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:34 AM
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Exactly. Any responsible adult would be mature enough to talk about sex. The only people I have ever met that don’t want to talk about the sex acts they are planning with the person they want to be involved are primarily teens or rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:33 AM
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Literally to see what people think would happen if women didn’t have sex before marriage - not to give a way out by allowing a few women (sex workers) to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:30 AM
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I didn’t say that, but this was a good example of what happens in a society where they can’t have sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:29 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:27 AM
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Blocked. You have been posting irrelevant comments all over this sub as rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:26 AM
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In this hypothetical situation, there are no sex workers because they are also waiting for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:52 AM
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In this hypothetical situation, there wouldn’t be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:51 AM
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You can’t cheat if no one is having sex outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:51 AM
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There would be no sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:50 AM
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Yes…that would include prostitutes and cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:50 AM
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Umm… it is not mutually consensual if one person is lying or misrepresenting the state if the relationship to get it. That’s why women need to stop allowing sex before marriage or commitment (depending on which one they want) so that it forces these sleazebags to say what they really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:15 AM
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Exactly… sex can be learned in a long-term relationship, but OP just wants to go from woman to woman and wants validation to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:03 AM
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This teen is just looking for reasons to sleep with girls and dump them and is just using this sub for validation - not actual advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:01 AM
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You are a kid, so you definitely don’t have much to add 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:58 AM
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Umm… I’ve mostly dated American White men and yes, they did discuss it. Many times, they were the ones who started the discussion and it was not awkward at all. You must still be a kid and that’s why you can’t talk about it but can do it 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:57 AM
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If she doesn’t know you well enough to feel safe, she is not going to get comfortable or happy. Something tells me you are a teen and not even an actual grown man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:56 AM
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I don’t have sex until marriage 🤷🏼‍♀️ but whenever I felt that someone was considering marriage, we absolutely did discuss which sexual acts we would consider, which positions, etc. and which activities we’d never do because we thought we wouldn’t enjoy it to make sure we were in the same page because we are adults. The fact that you think this is weird is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:54 AM
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So the woman’s feelings don’t matter at all? Because if she doesn’t know him or feel safe, it doesn’t matter how well the man performs… she still will not be able to perform and the way that you think about sex is the reason that you keep running into problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:51 AM
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This is getting rapey. So you never ask women about sex or if they want to do certain sex acts? You just take them somewhere and start performing various sex acts without any kind of communication? Yeah. That is going to be some great sex 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:49 AM
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Exactly and he is blaming them when he is not communication nor trying to make it enjoyable for them and then running off due to his insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:47 AM
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YOU think you are connected emotionally but that doesn’t mean that they have had enough time to connect with you if you are demanding it on the first date. You are also not connecting emotionally because it is impossible to do that with someone you barely know. Seeing someone as “respectable” doesn’t mean you connect emotionally. The bar for men understanding what it takes for a woman to risk STIs, pregnancy, possible assault, or murder while being complete naked and vulnerable to a stranger is …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:53 AM
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But the part that is from strangers or people they barely know disproportionately affects women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:49 AM
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But the problem is that he is essentially setting himself up for failure because sex is not a robotic skill, at least not for women, and emotional attachment and how safe she feels is a huge part of how well she is going to perform the skill. If she is scared or feel obligated because a dumb man created a rule that she had to have sex or the relationship would end, then she is not even going to be lubricated or show other physiological signals of being ready for sex. I guess men just see a naked…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:48 AM
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Yes… if we are going to switch, then all of it would have to switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:27 AM
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So random women drag men into the woods, order them to get erect, and then assault them? That’s the problem. When women assault, it is usually during an established relationship which doesn’t make it okay but the risk is lower for men to be SA because it doesn’t include people grabbing you on the street and forcing you into sex like it does for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:25 AM
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Exactly and would women have the power to select which men they want to approach without it being deemed “too forward”?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:20 AM
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Exactly. It sounds like he is looking for specific sex acts and then making it a guessing game and keeping women in the dark. It also sounds like he probably wants something that most women may not want to do, like anal sex, or for a woman to just walk in and perform every type of sex known to mankind without even knowing him, and try to prove their worth through sex. He is also reducing their worth to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:06 AM
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The problem is that these men are reducing the relationship to sex and rushing into sex before there is a connection, so of course, the sex is going to be bad if the person doesn’t even like you or have a connection with you. Sex is more than just private parts getting slapped together and, if you have sex with someone that you really don’t know, then it is not going to be “good sex”. Either men are too dense to get that or they get it and want the sex to “be bad” so that they can justify going …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:27 AM
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You are still not getting it. You are making it seem as if someone is retroactively withdrawing consent when the consent was never given if it was based on a lie. But again, that’s why I stick to “no sex before marriage” - it basically prevents men from doing this and if they annul it after the wedding night, that is basically going to destroy their social circle… so if they lie and marry me to get sex and annul, then they get the consequences of a destroyed social circle. Most men would not sig…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:07 AM
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The reason why “rape by deception” is a thing in some countries is just because of what you said about “doing enough to make her think she is in a relationship”… that’s the problem. The relationship wasn’t real and if she only had sex because you lied and pretended then that means the sex was not consensual because she would not have had sex if she knew the truth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception Edit: But again, that’s why I stick to “no sex before marriage” - it basically preven…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:01 AM
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It’s the way that it is done. Most of these men start a “relationship” pressing for sex out of the gate with fake long-term plans and then, after about 5-10 rounds of sex while keeping everything physical and blocking any emotional connection, he says “It’s not working out”. The fact that he never attempted an emotional connection proves it was for sex. Also, you are admitting that this happens all of the time and that you are placing a sexual connection over everything else. Have you ever thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:54 PM
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In some places, it is… it’s called “rape by deception”. But that’s why I don’t do sex before marriage… it makes it next to impossible for someone to lie to get sex without there being a major fallout.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:50 PM
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The problem is they want to play a “game” to get women to consent to casual sex while pretending it’s a relationship. If they approached saying “this is only about casual sex, is that okay?” a lot of women would say no, and these kinds of men don’t want the types of women who would say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:47 PM
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Yes… the only difference is that, when someone is trying to date for money, that can easily be figured out by asking them their occupation. Of course, they could lie, but that would probably be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:50 PM
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Men made degrading music first. Women just copied them (which was a bad idea)… but sense you keep trying to derail, then… 🚫
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:31 PM
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It does annoy me because it shows that people are declining in their ability to understand nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:30 PM
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Exactly. I blocked that person for nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:29 PM
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I can guarantee you that any man popping up out of the blue and asking for sex would not work and you obviously do not know the meaning of gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:28 PM
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Exactly… he wants the problem to be something that can’t be fixed instead of focusing on what can be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:54 PM
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That’s not happening, but blocked for being delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:53 PM
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Wrong… most people are not calling unattractive women beautiful. In fact, it is FAR more difficult to be considered beautiful as a woman. Think about pageants and how many actual beautiful women get told they are not and eliminated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:52 PM
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And they shouldn’t do that either… I don’t associate with women who do things like that. Being desperate for sex in both sides is gross. But this discussion was about men. Start a separate post about that. No derailing with “but women 😵‍💫…”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:49 PM
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The problem is they need to stop prioritizing sex period and clean up the attitude. A lot of ugly men are married because they were decent people which goes a long way. I have had crushes on ugly men because they were good people with great attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:48 PM
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Wrong. Some women value looks but it is very common to see a beautiful woman with an ugly man. The problem is always personality and a lot of ugly men have horrible personalities and think women owe them sex, so the desperation is palpable. The ugly men who don’t act that way are now married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:46 PM
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That does not meet the definition of gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:43 PM
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This. What OP is doing is essentially the same as approaching a woman and saying “I am so aroused. Please have sex with me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:41 PM
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Exactly the attitude that gets men like you turned down. Thanks for proving the point on behalf of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:39 PM
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No because nothing is more annoying than a guy desperate for sex and essentially begging for it without knowing the person. Sex is not a need, so it comes across as very short-sighted as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:36 PM
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They are not gaslighting. It likely IS your personality and your desperation. Women can sense when a man is so desperate to have sex. It even comes across in your tone of voice. Being unattractive might make you undesirable to certain women but, for most, it’s a creepy, desperate personality that is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:30 PM
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Not into that 🤷🏼‍♀️ Men who have sex with men have the highest STI rate. I also don’t want to marry someone who might leave when his desire for butt sex becomes more than he can handle. I date for marriage and that marriage will include PIV only.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:29 PM
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Most women are not going to want a bi man, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:26 PM
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Yes and these men who are arguing about this are still ignoring that the main problem is that cold approaches are based on wanting sex anyway. If you approach a person you don’t know anything about because you like their body, then you are thinking about sex with someone you don’t even know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:12 PM
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Exactly. Most men are not starting real conversations and seeing where things go. They are basically approaching upon just seeing a woman who has the type of body he likes and immediately asking for numbers. That is basically being objectified.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:09 PM
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The difference is that you had an actual conversation to try to get to know her before asking for a number. Most men aren’t doing this. They approach making it obvious that they are looking at your breasts or butt and just blurt out that they want the number.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:07 PM
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This. What is with all of these posts about cold approaches? Also, it ignores the fact that he is only approaching because he is sexually attracted since it’s impossible for him to actually know who you are as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:02 PM
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This. It would be better but I have had people to then try to force me to text them on the spot or run into me days later and try to confront me for not calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:00 PM
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The person after you was probably picked for that reason. If she was with you and you were a lukewarm Christian with odd beliefs about what “all women do”, then she probably wanted the opposite. Also, not going to church doesn’t mean he wasn’t a Christian.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:11 PM
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It’s not that. Men are crazy about sex, so if a woman is out looking for companionship because she is on the rebound, a man doesn’t have a problem providing that as long as the woman agrees to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:07 PM
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You are treating the symptom. You think men need to be taught how to approach and get women. That is a symptom. The problem is, no matter how they approach women, if they are not safe or stable men, whatever happens is not going to last. You will see the number of short-term relationships increase but the number of long-term relationships will decrease because these women will be dumping these men who essentially put on a mask to get them in the first place. If anything, men need to be taught th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:12 AM
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I think a script would make things worse because dating classes are based in PUA - which is basically just how to say the right stuff to get sex. Attracting women is not necessarily the problem. Not being someone who can sustain a long-term relationship with or without sex because you are a stable and safe person is the problem. It’s amazing how many men on this sub still just keep repeating that the problem is men not being able to attract women and get a date when the problem is men not being …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:10 AM
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I absolutely agree and I see so many stories of men saying “sex is expected during dating” and so many of women who didn’t want sex but felt pressured because “it’s a part of dating”. Sex is only a part of dating when both people want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:26 AM
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This. A lesbian should never have to have PIV and have to guess at someone’s intentions just to make someone else happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:12 AM
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To your edit: that’s fine. Dating outside of the social sphere is too risky for women and, on top of that, there are men who only date outside of their social sphere for that reason - so that the women have no data and have to make a quick decision based on how attractive he is or how confident he looks. Because looks and confidence can be portrayed for the sake of being manipulative, I am never going to respond to a random man in a bar or a restaurant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:14 AM
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“This isn't being overlooked, this is actually very well known. The issue is that the problems occurring here are a symptom of a failure but not the failure itself. The failure is occurring before this step due to too many "good" men not being trained in how to approach women in the way that signals to women that they are potential partner material.” Actually, this is being overlooked, even in your statement because it still relies on how a man “approaches” a woman when the safety and stability …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:47 AM
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No. Most men do not respond well to a woman approaching them. They might sleep with her, but it doesn’t usually become a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:37 AM
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This. Having sex with someone is not “being into them”. They are also exploiting transwomen because many are looking for validation from a man, so they will accept sex to assuage their own ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:14 PM
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A lot of this “trying to figure out women” is really just “how to figure out how to get more sex with women but not a relationship” - that’s why women hate it. It’s basically just a man trying to improve appearance and improve optics around who he appears to be and what he appears to be doing without actually improving who is really is and becoming someone who could sustain a relationship into marriage because he just wants sex. It seems really “incel-y” to make a lot of superficial improvements…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:47 PM
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I think the fact that women are actually looking for safety and stability and how attractive those things make a man is the most understated comment here. When I think about the men that I have found attractive, most were not that physically attractive. They were safe and stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:40 PM
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A lot of women are tired of hearing “choose better” because it doesn’t really acknowledge that men ask women out in most cultures, so the man is initiating the first interaction. The woman literally has only seconds to decide yes or no. Men (or anyone asking someone out) are also going to put on their best face while doing so to get a yes. When she goes out with him and he’s a weirdo, it’s not always easy to break things off - especially if he seems psycho. I’ve started turning down all men so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:55 PM
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Your comment here makes no sense but because you keep trying to defend rape, then blocked. I don’t talk to predators 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:44 PM
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I think that’s why they are fixated on lesbians… they like women who have less experience with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:55 AM
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A lot of women don’t want to be objectified at all. That is literally the reason I am not married yet. The men who wanted me, regardless of their looks, were primarily after boobs and butt but did not care to see who I am beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:11 AM
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Wrong. I have had hot, successful men sudden come out of nowhere coming on strong and it was very uncomfortable and annoying. I have also been around men who were “okay” but not the best in looks and only moderately successful but they were not all over me and I found them “attractive” because of their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:08 AM
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I just never wanted to fall into the trap of having to sleep with 50 guys because they won’t even consider a relationship without sex up front. Now, if that’s their MO, then it’s a done deal and I don’t have to even worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:34 AM
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I actually don’t have sex outside of marriage 🤷🏼‍♀️ so I don’t have to have sex to “figure out” if it’s a relationship or they are just using me, but many women do end up in that trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:12 AM
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You would because, if you liked this person, you would probably find out that they regularly live as a man - even if it is just through their co-workers, etc. When you put it together that they only wear a dress around you, you will put it together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:10 AM
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Your last paragraph is exactly why I said women don’t have it easier. Men don’t stick around for a relationship but will still keep approaching and badgering women for sex, which results in men constantly groping, aggressively approaching, stalking, etc. to try to get sex from a person who is obviously not interested and doesn’t want it. Yet, few actually approach calmly for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:07 AM
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If you fool someone into thinking you are of the gender or sex that they prefer in order to have intercourse that would not occur if they knew the truth, that is 100% rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:04 AM
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Exactly. They are literally playing on the sympathy of lesbians who are thinking “this poor transwoman was born with a penis and wants to have sex. I guess I’ll go along with it because it’s all they have right now and it’s not their fault” when that is not what’s really going on at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:03 AM
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I know. It’s a sick way of thinking. They don’t care if rape happens or not. They only want to make sure it can’t be proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:56 AM
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That’s the problem. A lot of women want sex as a part of a relationship. A lot of men want sex without strings attached. They lie to get the sex while pretending to want a relationship and then leave. That IS using the other person for sex because they would not have had sex if they knew the other person was leaving immediately afterward. Women hate that and we don’t enjoy being approached for just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:41 AM
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I didn’t say anyone would try to prove it. If a man rapes a woman with a condom it can’t be proven, but rape does not have to be proven to exist. The lesbian that he fooled would still figure out that she was raped and make it have social consequences even though it would be difficult legally. If I were a lesbian and fell for this mess and found out the person normally lives as a man but only put on a dress to get sex, I would tell every lesbian in town so it would spread to the degree that he l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:38 AM
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The problem is that the lesbian is NOT okay with it but is falling for “I identify as a woman, so in my mind I am a woman and my penis is actually a vagina” when the truth is that the person is fully male with male thoughts and no real intention of trying to be a woman, which makes it rape because the lesbian would not have been with someone who is fully male in body and mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:38 AM
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Not really. Women who fall for the idea from men that sex is needed to start a relationship end up sleeping with 50 men just to get to the 1 that actually didn’t just want sex. Also, having sex is not an advantage for women. Women take all of the risks of being physically hurt, higher risk of STI transmission, and risk of pregnancy. Having men grabbing you all of the time and constantly not being able to see you as anything but tits, butt, and vagina to be used and tossed is no fun either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:35 AM
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It also shows that, no matter how much they claim to want a relationship, they actually just want sex in any way they can get it. I mean, sorry for being graphic, but imagine the crazy amount of gymnastics you have to go through to get to: “women will not allow me to put my penis into their vagina, so I am going to pretend to be a lesbian so that they will allow me to put my penis inside of them while telling them it is actually a vagina” or “women won’t allow me to put my penis into their vagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:31 AM
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The problem is cosplaying as a woman to get lesbians to have PIV sex is basically rape and this is going to cause problems for transwomen who actually had body dysmorphia.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:23 AM
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I think you misunderstood my first comment. Transmaxxers claiming that they proved women have it easier didn’t; they proved that (straight) men are obsessed with sex. These transmaxxers are getting used as a hole in the same way that women do, by straight men. Women have it easier to get sex because men are obsessed with sex… women do not have it any easier to get into a relationship than men because men just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:20 AM
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They must be delusional if they are going after straight men dressed as a woman but think they are going to be tops.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:57 AM
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It’s stupid because women don’t have it easier for actual dating; they have it easier to get used for sex because men are overly sexual and will have sex than anything. Gay men have it easier as well because men simply are obsessed with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:11 AM
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I actually find it rapey because these men (since they don’t suffer from dysphoria) are going after lesbians to essentially get PIV sex from a woman as a man who is basically cosplaying as a woman for that reason and still has the feelings of a man. On the other side in terms of getting male attention, they just proved that men will go after anything with a hole - and that has nothing to do with “women having it easier” and more to do with “men being creeps”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:09 AM
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Beards can hide a weak chin and some men look very different without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:10 PM
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Yes… it would have to be intentionally done for that reason. Powdering your face, adding a little lipstick, and going is not that drastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:08 PM
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Also, some breasts actually get bigger “at home” since some bras actually push the breasts flat 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:07 PM
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Anyway, most women are not going to those extremes and, the ones who are usually are a certain type of woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:05 PM
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That’s being done on purpose for that effect, but most women are not wearing makeup thinking “this will fool a man so let me cake it on”. They just put some on because they like it and society expects it to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:03 PM
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Like Jay-Z… that was Beyoncé’s strategy and he still cheated
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:54 PM
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The ones that do this tend to believe the saying “a person can be one person in one relationship and a different person in another” when this is generally not true unless they are being abused in one relationship but not in the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:50 PM
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Oh please. A lot of times, the women bring up their concerns and the men lie, stonewall, gaslight, and keep manipulating things to make the woman seem crazy and then, when it all comes to light, everyone including the man wants to blame her for staying 🙄 when the man had her questioning her sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:47 PM
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This is the first time someone explained this honestly. Men are the selectors. A man could awaken one day and decide he WILL secure a date and ask 100 women out. If he is decent, a few will say yes. He could choose to date a few out of those seriously. If he is decent, not just trying to get sex, is clean, and has a full-time job, he can even chose one to propose and get married. A woman cannot ask 100 men out because many would say yes but would not take her seriously at all and would assume th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:47 PM
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This AND as a woman, having a man trying to achieve this dynamic is very annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:39 PM
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Also, sometimes, it’s not being not attracted even though it might manifest that way. Sometimes, it really is your body sensing that this person is not good for you in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:09 PM
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