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So you agree then that the original point is irrelevant? That swapping from a man to a woman isn't choosing between no sex and bad sex? What are you even trying to argue at this point? You might as well be waffling on about women abstaining from breaking their ankle while walking, but they still choose to walk places otherwise, because they can walk places and not slip and break their ankle, it's obvious. All of this ignores the fact that women have sex with and date deadbeats and losers all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:15 PM
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Do you believe their partners attractiveness is the only factor in how satisfying sex is? That sounds quite blackpilled tbh. Should we then conclude that women aren't more picky in who they have sex with? Since they are less satisfied with their sex lives than men are and more so with casual encounters, in fact we could follow your argument and say women are even less picky with who they have casual sex with, no? And what I said was that women abstain from sex they know will be bad This whole di…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:53 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:26 PM
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My heart bleeds
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:18 PM
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Not if men would willingly commit to more women than vise versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:06 PM
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Just take birth control, if you're promiscuous to the point you need regular access to abortions, you've got other issues going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:02 PM
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No it's not, plenty of woman stick in relationships that don't satisfy them sexually or carry on having casual sex, despite most casual encounters being unenjoyable for women. Why would the orgasm gap exist if women were selecting for men that were good at sex? There's so many holes you could poke in this, so many women have stories of selfish lovers, guys that used them, pump and dumps, like, genuinely good sex isn't what women are selecting for here or if it is, then they really need to look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:00 PM
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They're not higher for sex, they're higher for who they have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:53 PM
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Women get commitment easier than men as well come off it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:33 PM
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Why aren't the majority of women abstaining from sex if it's so bad then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:29 PM
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No doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:25 PM
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What damage is it doing now outside of religious backwaters?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:24 PM
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Promiscuous women have no problem finding long term partners, really they have no negative outcomes outside of reading critisicsm online and feeling bad about it. No one wants virgin men unless they're very young or relatively young and religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:32 PM
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to live your whole life by that and base every action on that premise is what i’m criticizing How many people do you think do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:20 PM
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I mean I approached my fiancé, and I know other women who ask for numbers or get close with men No where have I denied that women approach men, I've had women approach me, but it's significantly rarer. Men do the vast majority of approaching and pursuing, it's just a bold faced lie to claim otherwise. The whole point in an indirect approach is to maintain plausible deniability by definition, if plausible deniability isn't there then it is a direct approach, approaching indirectly and working wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:02 PM
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I had a male friend come on to me, I just told him I would if I was gay and we got another pint.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:37 PM
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But women do get rejected Women make the first move at a significantly lower rate than men do, y'all avoid putting yourselves in a position to be rejected and then take a man not making a move or not picking up "signals" to be a rejection. I've seen it over and over, had a friend crying in my car once because I never made a move on her and she felt rejected, like I had no idea she was interested. That’s why it’s hard to take anyone here seriously. You compare the top 5% of women’s experience wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:40 PM
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I'm sorry, I can't parse that sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:45 AM
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This is quite a small sample size, but it used 3D models and "haptic stimuli". It seems like the women were fairly adept at estimating size. It also references a few other studies, one, for example, showing women prefer larger penises for one night stands because the emphasis is on sexual pleasure. I read a few pages, but not the whole thing as I started to question why I'm sat reading studies on dicks. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4558040/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:39 AM
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I believe some of the studies used dildos or other visual representations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:11 AM
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Where's the complaint? I said women pick for "X y and z" until they realise it's a losing game, then Mr "kind and himself" gets a ride. You know sometimes women even start to miss "X y and z" and go back to them on the side. I've seen it plenty, I think any guy who's ever been or hung around "X y and z" men see how women really are. My first experience of this was when I was fairly young and out clubbing, a woman came onto me and made out with me on the dancefloor, seemed a little reticient then…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:10 AM
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How does your comment relate to mine at all? Marriage is a waste of time, let alone waiting for it to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:57 AM
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If your kind and yourself you'll get someone you actually value. Only after she's learned her lesson bouncing between a few of the "X y and z" guys though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:52 AM
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I've been friends with enough women and gay men to know how much they care about dick size, what I don't get is why they go to such lengths to hide it in online anonymous spaces like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:50 AM
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I think women often shoot themselves in the foot in this discussion, similar to when they talk about height and say things like 5'10" is fine, not realising it's still an above average height, in the same vein, women often talk about how they don't want big dicks and that 6 inches is enough, not realising that 6 inches is above average. I'm also fairly sure studies have consistently shown women prefer around 6 - 6.5 inches and I don't think there even needs to be any elaboration on "big dick ene…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:47 AM
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Why would I get on the same page as someone who is wrong? The umbrella term for these belief systems is "manosphere" not "redpill". Redpill has become, erroneously, synonymous with the manosphere, but the redpill was quite specifically about increasing access to casual sex, MGTOW is about avoiding women, they are contradictory, yet they fall under the same umbrella because at their core they share misogynistic views on the nature of women. Perhaps if we take the Matrix analogy to it's limit we c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 09:12 AM
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I'm not sure what I'm meant to take from the comment you linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:47 AM
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You're thinking about MRAs or maybe MGTOW, Redpill is a strategy for maximising access to no strings attached sex, it's anti-commitment. Not sure what he's on about no redpill ideas that benefit men though, the whole point of it is that it's meant to redirect you to more success with women, however I do somewhat see what he's saying, in that redpill, and a lot of other manosphere belief systems, are self-deprecating in a way feminism isn't. It's not something I'd thought about before. The messag…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:36 AM
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Depwnds where you are, I reckon I could rent out a dance hall for an evening cheaper than I'd spend on taxis and drinks and shit with a night in the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:48 PM
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The use of the word "exclusively" can only really be read two ways, either he's not invited or she only dances and twerks when he's not there. To be fair I'm playing devils advocate more than anything here, there's more nuance to this than anyone is really engaging with and chalking it up to just insecurity or baggage is reductive. The scenario presented as is, a woman going to a club at the exclusion of her boyfriend to dance and twerk, is in a similar ballpark to a guy going out to hit on wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:56 PM
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Why is a woman going to a club exclusively to twerk and dance without her man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:43 PM
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The difference is plausible deniability. If it was just about dancing and twerking, then they could do it at home or rent out a hall, the point of it being in a nightclub is to garner attention from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:45 PM
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How many of those guys in orbit do you think she'll sleep with without them having to do anything? Again, I feel better when women have made out with me or grinded on me without me having to do or say anything to them, in those situations I know she just wants me sexually, there's no performance on my part needed to convince her, no steps to take, no things to say, me as I am was enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:39 PM
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Would the problem be her baggage if she disapproved of her man swiping on apps? Actually, how about if her man was going to a club and buying women drinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:01 PM
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This is up there with some of the dumbest takes yet. Most men nowadays aren't unique? When has anyone been particularly unique? Throughout most of human history the only people who could afford to stand out were the extremely small minority in the ruling classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:57 PM
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I think there needs to be a degree of physical attraction for there to be sexual attraction, behaviour can enhance it, but behaviour is external and contextual. Like I said, I feel better when a woman has come on to me without me having to do or say anything, than I do when how I dance or how I made them laugh has been the tipping point. The latter just feels more performative, less about me and more about what I do and don't get me started on how it feels taking on the typical male role of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:46 PM
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I desire you because I want sex from you Yes that's the whole point? The difference is the desire is purely sexual, there's no proviso that I be charming, funny, intelligent etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:58 AM
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I think he might have just been speed running how many fallacies he can engage in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:33 AM
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I think the point is how rejection makes you feel. I read his scenario, as hyperbolic as it is, to be more about personal perception than outer reality. Are you telling me that if, as a woman, you received no interest from men without having to actively curate it and face more rejections than successes, you wouldn't start to feel like you were annoying men? You wouldn't feel like they found you unattractive? I actually think most women wouldn't trade away the negatives OP mentions if it meant th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:22 AM
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Well to be fair most men are never going to experience pure sexual interest the way women do, it'll always be caveated by something he provides like excitement, stability, comfort, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 10:17 AM
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imo there are elements of healthy thought processes in that reply and elements of unhealthy ones. like the idea that a woman doesn’t have to offer value to achieve sex assumes unbelievably low standards for any given man. it’s inaccurate given the millions and millions of men who won’t actually sleep with just any woman, and it reinforces problematic-to-harmful beliefs about men and women imo See, that is an assumption you've made, no where did I say a woman could sleep with any man, I think it …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:21 AM
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Looks, smell, how my voice sounds, colour of my eyes, you know, things that are attractive in and of themselves, rather than by proxy, being funny is attractive because laughing makes you feel good, being kind/intelligent is attractive because it makes you feel comfortable and so on. There's no "middle step" with things like looks, smell, whatever, no presumed value to be gained; if someone is attracted to your face, it's because they find your face attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:46 AM
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It just makes sense that men would be regarded better for having more sexual partners, because a man has to offer value to achieve that, a woman doesn't, all she has to do is consent. I don't think women should be shamed for it however, but I do think not having a high body count is a sign of other positive qualities that are attractive in potential long term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:27 AM
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I've experienced enough women hitting on me without having really said anything to doubt how much personality actually matters for sexual attraction. I don't think many sane people would argue most men can find women who will have sex with them in exhange for something, but I don't believe the angst is actually about access to sex, rather not being desired unless they offer something beyond their body in the way that women are. I know for me, I feel better about women coming onto me knowing noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:14 AM
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Women can't sniff out desperation anymore than they can sniff out abusers or serial killers. The most desperate guy I know was one of the biggest slayers, we're talking a guy who centred his life around women, his self-esteem completely relied on having regular hookups and he was so self-hating it was pathetic. He was also tall and handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:33 PM
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I unironically believe men's mental health would be better if women were just open about not being sexually attracted to most men and prostitution was legalised and normalised, but it wouldn't be good for the country. Governments need men to support child rearing women in order to maintain the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:09 PM
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What I never understood is how, considering how much women's self-esteem is tied to their sexual attractiveness, they can then turn around and say that men should just accept being sexually undesirable. You'd think the supposedly more emotionally intelligent gender could understand how that would feel, but I think it's just a blind spot women have because they are born with innate sexual desirability; it must be like trying to comprehend the experience of someone born deaf.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:03 PM
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Kinda hard given how strict women are with gender roles in dating; most women don't have the appetire for asking guys out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:47 PM
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Most men are never in a position to reject a woman anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:34 PM
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Quiet/nerdy/unpopular girls are perceived as less available.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:32 PM
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Women prefer anxiety over peace and comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:25 PM
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Physical attractiveness and perceived availability is what boosts women's appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:22 PM
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They seem happy. Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:04 PM
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Most men cannot get anywhere with women without pursuing and escalating things, only women, and a select few men, have the luxury of passivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:39 AM
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For sure, I see it in my mother, my sisters and women I'm friends with; so many women are extremely insecure. I think this is also part of why they wield shame like a weapon, it's an attempt to cut you down to their level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:37 AM
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Regardless, women are the choosers when it comes to sex, there are men out there trying to deceive women and use them, it's on women to filter these men out. The only time these roles are reversed are in the case of gold diggers, then it is on the men bear the responsibility for protecting their wealth and assets. Few women are lying to and bullshitting men to gain access to their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:33 AM
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This would be fair enough if women did any real vetting, but y'all are willing to sleep with and commit to men you've not even known a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:18 AM
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Women are the sexual selectors after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:36 AM
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How many men do you believe would choose a single mother over a childless woman, all else equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:33 AM
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Not once in my life have I heard of single mothers being romanticised.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:31 AM
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What I don't get is why women need to be with a man for a few years before they learn someone who doesn't clean up after themselves or wipe their own ass isn't worth being with. I judge women on their past "baggage" because there's simply no excuse for sticking around with losers in these situations, beyond being dumb, insecure, weak willed or desperate, which are all unattractive personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:30 AM
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The vast majority of men can't just be a healthy weight and pleasant to be around and expect to even get their first kiss, they have to know how to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:16 AM
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I don't know about chad, but I've known more than a few guys who'll happily sleep with women and never think about them again, these guys generally had more "success" and were treated better by women. I think you need a degree of detachment to win the game the way men have to play it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 12:45 AM
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Why do you believe 80/20 and AF/BB are rooted in jealousy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:09 PM
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I've never felt jealous of promiscuous women, I usually just feel kind of sad for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:03 PM
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If it was about having lots of sex, then the jelousy would be directed at people in relationships as they are the ones having the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:02 PM
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Nice is something you feel about someone or something, it's pleasant, enjoyable; a nice person to me is someone who shares my values, who is kind, peaceful, honest, respects themselves and others, a lot of people don't look for nice in their relationships, they look for excitement and anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:41 PM
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They can work on their personality, we were talking about being attracted to nice women afterall.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:16 PM
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Women around my age, I would say yes. It's rare I see a woman I wouldn't at least consider vaguely attractive that isn't too young, too old or very obese. I'm not picky about looks, I am very picky about personality and character though. not only the ones living rent free in your head No woman lives in my head rent free.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:02 PM
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Is this meant to be some sort of gotcha? Most women are attractive to some extent and being nice enhances a woman's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:58 PM
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You originally said: >I have never known of a man to tell a woman to choose a “better man” than himself Now you've zoned in on RP, which advocates against commitment, believes all women have a period of commitment free sex before settling down and is meant to be a strategy to attract women during that phase, the red pill doesn't advocate cheating because you need to be in a relationship to cheat. If you want to talk about RP specifically then, for them "better" is a no strings attached casual se…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:00 AM
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The usual "big boys don't cry" and mocking and shaming me for displaying emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:50 AM
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Straying from masculinity will generally lead to a depressing, sexless life if you are heterosexual. Women impose the constraints more than other men, I learned that from my mother and older sisters at a young age. Also as an aside, talking about compliments from men, they are generally worthless unless they're prasing your competence/prowess at something, what am I meant to take away from hearing a guy say my haircut suits me or that I have a nice shirt? Only women's opinions matter in that reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:15 PM
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"Better" is a value judgment though, it's not objective; spinning plates can be considered "better" than abuse, to some commitment is worse than no strings attached sex. You are expecting them to match your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:56 PM
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Women really are the biggest red pillers, you dish them out like candy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:43 PM
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The flowers make more sense in that context, though from the rest of your story I wouldn't have trusted the guy anyway, but I generally dislike overly friendly/affectionate people and often get complaints from women about being guarded, so I don't know how worthwhile my view is anyway; I've definitely missed out on relationships with some great women because of it, but also avoided some trainwrecks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:27 PM
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So no man wants better for a woman beyond themselves, is that what you believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:11 PM
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I have never known of a man to tell a woman to choose a “better man” than himself. No one here seen a guy push a woman away because he thinks she's too good for him? The problem with these discussions is women only see the men that make themselves visible. Most men appear to be self-serving in their mate choice because that's who women choose de facto.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:19 PM
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He found out beforehand that I'd be there and brought me this big beautiful bouquet How well did you know him when he did this? I would take it as a red flag if a woman did something like that for me before we'd established any sort of relationship, but probably more out of a sense that she had some unrealistic idea of me or perhaps that she wanted something from me, rather than wanted me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:10 PM
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I lived in the same city as a friend's fiancée and he used come through and out drinking with me and a few mutual friends, then stay at one of our places rather than go see her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:36 PM
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Man, you really are one of the biggest red pillers going.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:25 PM
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