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Inner Game RealisticDiscipline7/r/seduction20/10/25 06:01 PM
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Outer Game RealisticDiscipline7/r/seduction04/05/25 06:50 AM
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Obviously guys are doing this all the time. How else do they get to that point of entitlement where they know they can act mean and still be “loved”?
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:34 PM
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If i was a girl in some guys car and he pulls over and asks for a BJ, that would feel like a lot of pressure.
/r/seduction23/07/26 08:58 PM
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Federer once said he focuses on his strengths, cause the weaknesses get exploited anyway. So ive been trying to do that with my personality.
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:32 AM
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Ooo ok see. There it is lol
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:12 AM
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Damn. Yea, i think the new person is often already there. They talk to a new guy in a flirty way before they dumb the old bf most the time.
/r/seduction20/07/26 04:04 AM
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Yep, vs the 3 back burner guys tee’d up for the average woman. Or the guarantee of getting laid within a few hours off dating app if they so choose.
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:47 AM
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Sub is open to women as well. Anyone wanting to improve romantic attraction to anyone else. Just to clarify.
/r/seduction20/07/26 03:43 AM
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Your brain is trying to reconcile “if hes such a good guy, how could he reject/treat me bad, what’s that say about me?” Which implies, it’s not so much about him, and more about reconciling feelings that I believe from this post, would have been triggered by many different guys. And btw, if he was done with you, but not willing to “throw you a bone” so to speak, and let you know, then i dont think hes that great of a guy.
/r/seduction05/07/26 01:31 PM
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Yep, you wind up in some stuff thats not good for you.
/r/seduction05/07/26 01:22 PM
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Yea like a magnet moving towards another one, you pull the other one away and it keeps attracting, but put them together and they just snap fixed. No more movement. No more room for her to amp up over the idea of you.
/r/seduction04/07/26 11:28 AM
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In that case maybe “no worries” actually is better than no response, cause women need to feel like if they do try to come back, you’ll be nice and not lash out.
/r/seduction18/05/26 06:48 AM
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If that’s the motive then it is about ego. Which intuitively feels important cause when we lived in tribes, her view of your status would actually matter, but it doesnt since you wont see her again.
/r/seduction17/05/26 10:10 PM
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Reading “the Game” totally changed how i saw things.
/r/seduction15/05/26 07:48 PM
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Yea, there’s definitely a shit-test by proxy thing that happens some times. It’s an evolved instinct in the friends.
/r/seduction13/05/26 07:32 PM
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Maybe when it happens to you.
/r/seduction13/05/26 07:31 PM
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Ive had this happen several times. The friend is not experiencing the charm/direct eye contact and flirting that she is, so shes just judging you on your looks/demo most likely. That’s what ive assumed when it happens to me. Like friend is thinking (hes not hot enough for you) or they are jealous.
/r/seduction12/05/26 11:32 PM
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I feel like being left on delivered is worse than being left on read, it’s a calculated move so they have plausible deniability “oh i just saw this!” Crap.
/r/seduction12/05/26 02:39 AM
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Not a wingman but a funny tittle. Made me giggle before i even read post.
/r/seduction08/05/26 09:52 PM
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Just wanna say, the whole “issue is putting women on a pedestal” thing is not the underlying cause, it’s the effect. If you could snap your fingers today and have plenty of women sleeping with you, you’d naturally stop “putting them on a pedestal.” To try to change that mind set artificially is an attempt at mental gymnastics to solve a deep emotional issue. Should start with some real life social interactions with women: like activities you enjoy where women exist and cold approach. Then also t…
/r/seduction07/05/26 06:40 PM
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Possible she did like everything but you got out competed by another guy. Other two things are a dealbreaker happened that she didnt disclose, and possible your post coitus text wasnt as non-chalant as you think.
/r/seduction07/05/26 01:42 AM
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uses bot to spam fb profiles I did 14,000 approaches today!
/r/seduction27/04/26 08:43 PM
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On a deeper level, it’s also just a primal instinct from evolution. Women who probed/berated tended to wind up with only the men in a stronger position/more secure status. So just saying its a gut impulse as opposed to a calculated thing usually.
/r/seduction27/04/26 08:40 PM
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Ahh… ok. So you do have to send more lol. But try to keep it light, dont seek a commitment in the next text, instead test waters with something like “how do you feel about mexican food?” Or whatever the fuck, im sure u can do better but thats the idea. Im open to ppl sayin they disagree here…
/r/seduction27/04/26 08:01 PM
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So it sounds like you had already made a friday plan? If so, that’s fine to leave at that and maybe follow up on friday. But to answer, no i highly doubt its wanting to be chased, if anything its the opposite. Shes like “i hope to see you again” and you were like “well you definitely have me, its a done deal, im completely available to you” it wasnt the worst text in the world but in the initial attraction stages she might be like “lemme pull back a bit by just reacting to the text”. Really we n…
/r/seduction27/04/26 07:53 PM
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Idk bout 2022, but the effects of dating apps and their algorithms continue to compound I believe. The “rich get richer and poor get poorer” phenomenon that dating apps are conducive to.
/r/seduction28/03/26 06:53 PM
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They’re looking to not scare off too many guys is what they’re looking for. Same reason guys list “monogomy” or “long term” even when they prob dont want that.
/r/seduction21/03/26 08:35 PM
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Yep. Ive found walking up to mixed groups and/or very attractive women at the venue is very scary but afterwards, I feel a similar lack of inhibition in my next interaction. Gives a similar calming of nerves as alcohol. But fuck, that tipsy yet not drunk sweetspot does really eliminate that hesitation and I do notice a favorable change in response from women.
/r/seduction14/03/26 12:10 PM
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Small risks daily 👌
/r/seduction14/03/26 12:04 PM
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In Thailand, if an approach instantly goes so well that it’s too good to be true, you may be in for a shock when the pants come off.
/r/seduction14/03/26 11:13 AM
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I agree with Jack26918. If it was me, my first impulse would be to say something like, “hmm, i think youre kinda being weird RIGHT now.” Call her out for being weird cause she was. It depends though on how ignorable she was. Maybe it was possible to just smile and be like “naw” and look back at D and get the number?
/r/seduction14/03/26 07:56 AM
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I think your sample size only being 3 men means you havent realized guys generally want to fool around for a long time. Sex is their fav thing in life most of them.
/r/seduction20/10/25 06:25 PM
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For me, being laughy, giggly and playful, but if you try to fake that you might come off like the joker.
/r/seduction11/10/25 01:31 AM
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You posted this in “Seduction” so if you’re concerned about attraction (from you to her), I’ll share one thing I’ve learned through personal experience courting women: when me and a woman are very different, (not much Venn diagram overlap) the most attractive I can be, is to stay solid in my true personality/frame, instead of trying to bend and be more like her. Will she be attracted? Maybe not, but it’s my best bet… and sometimes theres that weird sexual tension that comes from being opposites.
/r/seduction04/10/25 01:58 PM
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I’ve done this exact thing in two diff contexts. Both ended badly. In both scenarios the guy completely milked his role as my “mentor,” to the point it was very patronizing. On surface, totally friendly like he wants to help me. But it was all about him and his ego. If I broke out of the “little man needing his help” role, and I started holding court and getting laughs, he no longer wanted to build me up and would go back to competing with and ignoring me.
/r/seduction01/10/25 01:44 PM
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That’s great!
/r/seduction23/09/25 04:24 PM
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I have tons of social anxiety too. When you know that you have chemistry over text but worry about irl, the main issue is inhibitions. So, what ive done many times is go to the venue early, and do some cold approaches (it doesnt have to have any agenda other than walking up and talking to a woman for a moment). It triggers your fight or flight response and depletes a lot of the anxiety BEFORE your actual date arrives. It makes you much less inhibited in my experience. And that will be the main i…
/r/seduction22/09/25 10:23 PM
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Dont lie but, most guys cant exactly say they just want casual sex on a dating app or even on a first date, without scaring off a large % of women who would have otherwise been open to it. It’s the equivalent of a woman saying she’s looking for marriage and children. Great to state expectations, but women who state marriage and children on profile, or even first date, will likely scare off a large % of men who may have been open to it.
/r/seduction21/09/25 10:17 AM
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I dont think you should call attention to it. Your message is better than “what happened?” But I think it’s better to reinitiate with something new.
/r/seduction17/09/25 12:16 AM
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Whoa just read “askwomenover40” rules. Women and “femme aligned non-binary” only can participate. Whatever that means. Men not allowed. Does not sound like a great non-biased place to learn about women over 40.
/r/seduction07/09/25 02:37 PM
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Are you planning on returning or did they say you’re banned?
/r/seduction02/09/25 07:58 PM
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Switch the genders and it’s still the guy who gets kicked out 😆. Like imagine a drunk dude at a bar, and a woman who seems sober starts making out with him, the woman is still the “victim.” And the drunk guy would get kicked out. Do I think it’s possible that bouncer bounced you based on a biased emotional impulse? Yea, but the best recourse in my opinion is to give the most professionally assertive pushback/protest possible in a concise way as you exit.
/r/seduction02/09/25 06:59 PM
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This.
/r/seduction24/08/25 11:03 PM
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I think there’s kind of an upside down U curve to how much it actually makes it safer for them too. Once too many ppl post on sites like this the default credibility of any woman goes down.
/r/seduction11/08/25 06:00 AM
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I can’t speak for actual texts, but in the dating app when women message “haha” in isolation, it’s not to placate but rather they dont know what to say, and they want you to keep trying so you dont unmatch.
/r/seduction19/07/25 06:31 AM
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You’re making sound a bit like it’s correlation only but it’s largely causation: seeing and hearing other women fawn over a guy will inspire attraction in most women, even if a guy does not have those traditional attractive qualities to start.
/r/seduction16/07/25 04:19 AM
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So, the routine to get her ready to kiss you, is to start off by having her ready to kiss you…
/r/seduction15/07/25 06:42 PM
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How long have you two been together? Was everyone in the pic putting their arms around eachother? Try to remember too that the guy wants to sleep with her, so if he put his arm around her first, there’s a natural inclination to reciprocate—you’d feel that pressure even with a platonic friend.
/r/seduction15/07/25 05:07 PM
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If they look old enough that they’ll be offended if you ask their age, you’re in the clear. If they look early 20’s, could prob just ask.
/r/seduction14/07/25 07:20 PM
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Had similar experiences. I think it’s more like, if she’s already interested and you check some boxes, being funny really brings you two together. And it can also open the door, like having a puppy or playing guitar can. But funniness, a puppy, and playing guitar don’t typically sustain attraction by themselves.
/r/seduction14/07/25 04:22 PM
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If they’re the type of person that says “mad old”, I’m not too concerned of their opinion of me lol
/r/seduction14/07/25 04:10 PM
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Exactly, this golden retriever energy trope has been circulating as only a positive attribute, not a negative one.
/r/seduction14/07/25 02:22 AM
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If you cold approach beautiful women right in front of other men, it makes them insecure cause they know they’re too afraid to do it. Since they cant do it themselves but dont want their relative status to diminish, they tell you it’s not “the way.”
/r/seduction10/07/25 09:10 PM
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The first claim is still true cause no matter how much women are revealed as wanting sex, you always magnify it 10 times to understand what guys are like.
/r/seduction08/07/25 10:11 PM
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I know it’s tough when you know you had a connection, only to feel like one little slip up ruined it. But women will dip once their neediness-detectors get triggered for whatever reason. My assessment: since you’re new to dating after a long term relationship, somehow (including wanting to check she got home safe) you got a lil too comfy in a way that made her feel like you felt as though you and her are now an item. You didnt need to ask her to text when she got home, and if she ended up not te…
/r/seduction06/07/25 02:54 AM
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K so you’re fishing for reassurance that a thumbs up and a haha isnt that bad of a sign. Well… you got it. Doesnt sound that bad to me.
/r/seduction05/07/25 02:29 AM
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Unless you’re extremely goodlooking, trying to get her attention to see if she will give some kind of indication to approach (conscious or otherwise), likely will look like a bambi-deer-in-the-headlights look that says “huh? What about me? What do ya think?” So it’ll usually backfire.
/r/seduction04/07/25 10:33 PM
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Definitely not everyday lol. Not even every week.
/r/seduction04/07/25 10:14 PM
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Obviously not a shit test. The length of the message is cause she’s feeling a bit guilty about rejecting you/doesn’t want to incite some kind of retaliation. What was in your texts to her? Cause she brought that up so it sounds like you might have texted something weird.
/r/seduction03/07/25 09:21 PM
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No one on here has said “dont send sexual stuff”. Cant believe no one said that yet. Do NOT send sexual texts/memes/pics to a gal who has not blatantly initiated such an exchange. They find it gross/desperate otherwise.
/r/seduction03/07/25 05:05 PM
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Something Todd V has said is “love” is not something that happens when she’s with you, it’s something she tells herself while you’re away. In other words, when you leave on an impressive or exciting “note”, it marinates in her mind. This is human nature in general though. It’s why we intuitively know “goodbyes” are important and why performers want to leave the stage with a bang, and why George costanza started exiting conversations on a laugh.
/r/seduction01/07/25 12:12 AM
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This fear is all under the same umbrella of why we fear approaching new women all together. It’s an instinct that we risk lowering our status (or worse) among the tribe if she rejects us or is upset by us. So of course if feels safer if you’re alone.
/r/seduction30/06/25 10:29 PM
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“Pick up” and “right” are two very vague terms, so we cant talk about them in regards to deception. Is courting and sleeping with women inherently deceptive? Of course not. My claim is that Todd, although effective, does engage in some practices that are deceptive and unethical.
/r/seduction29/06/25 05:17 PM
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Right exactly. That’s one reason the cold approach is so important, it’s a low stakes practicing theatre for your online dates. You need to go to venues (doesnt always have to be a bar) where there is an expectation that ppl will socialize (so that it doesnt feel as daunting to approach). You practice very small at first, eye contact and a nod. Then saying hi to ppl as you pass them. Then, just making a comment to someone. Like, you’re trying to get over your fear of rejection so that you dont f…
/r/seduction29/06/25 05:00 PM
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Hands down those pick up guys have very effective stuff. But it exists on a continuum of morality. Big difference between tyler and todd these days. I really think tyler veering away from the more deceptive side of pick up is at the core of their split, even if they have some other more surface rationale.
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:31 PM
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The spark comes automatically for ppl who the spark comes automatically and those ppl usually get laid before 35. For some of us, it does not come automatically, and we have to learn flirting, or at least be able to reciprocate if someone flirts with us. OP said his dates always feel platonic.
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:28 PM
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Personally i kinda hate the above reply and am surprised it’s the top comment. It’s vague and neglects the reality of how much your body is crying out. You need actionable steps. Please dont become like Todd V. He has some good tips but he has deluded himself into thinking he’s not deceptive/immoral. If you’ve done zero cold approaches, you need to start now, in baby steps. Continue your mental health journey which includes therapy, exercise and meditation. But go to bars and practice, where you…
/r/seduction29/06/25 04:17 PM
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We repress a lot of the feelings as kids that came from our parent’s transgressions cause we had to. But as ppl individualize, it surfaces. Mine surfaced to a crisis degree around 15 but maybe yours is a little more delayed and that’s whats going on. Does it manifest as purely anger or does it feel more like fear most of the time?
/r/seduction28/06/25 02:28 AM
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I agree. Someone says im annoying to talk to and, yea, im not going to interpret that well. It would have to be an exceptionally playful context where the word annoying fit in perfectly. Otherwise, trust your gut. She was kinda jabbing at you, maybe trying to push you away. Sounds like youre just not a good fit. Anyway, to the broader question of handling disrespect, the main way is preventatively. As in, you dont get to a 4th date with the type that would do that.
/r/seduction27/06/25 04:54 AM
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If you notice her staring at you, start filming her and make a tiktok video that shames her for ooogling guys at the gym. Then ask her if you can get her number.
/r/seduction27/06/25 04:15 AM
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Right. One dead giveaway (on dating apps) is when they wanna know what you do in like the first or second message. Especially if your message was playful and they respond with that.
/r/seduction27/06/25 04:08 AM
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Heavy eye contact while smiling. Laughing at my jokes. One thing ive noticed thats super powerful… simply standing close. Stepping into my personal space.
/r/seduction27/06/25 04:06 AM
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Unless the staff really likes you, they’re gonna be upset when they see you snapping random patrons. Side note: it pisses me off how sensitive ppl are when you’re filming with a dedicated camera in a spot where ppl film with their cellphones all the time. You’ll see this with first amendment auditors. It’s so dumb. A cellphone camera is still a camera!
/r/seduction26/06/25 10:13 PM
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Women want to feel like the man has no qualms with being exceptionally generous with them. So I feel like there’s probably something about the context or the manner in which you’re trying to get a woman to admit her mistake that conflicts with the above premise.
/r/seduction26/06/25 10:08 PM
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Attraction as you look into eachother’s eyes.
/r/seduction26/06/25 02:50 PM
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A post that is better as something googled gets through, but my discussion on social proof and attraction gets quickly deleted by mods.
/r/seduction25/06/25 03:45 AM
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How do you let it get to that point? That’s exactly my point in replying to you. It’s fine to be direct and end a date prematurely if you see it going nowhere, but dont let the mindset that you’ll never see her again cause you to reject her in a harsh way, cause if she is crazy, that’ll make you her target.
/r/seduction23/06/25 10:24 PM
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You’ve obviously never had a stalker before. Cops wont do jack shit. Certain lies can cost friendships, jobs or worse.
/r/seduction23/06/25 09:38 PM
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Grinding on you? Yea, there was prob an opportunity there, though if there were other ppl in the tent, maybe it would not have gone all the way. Anyway, dont make the first message too serious, too long, or showing expectation that you’ll “continuing what was started.” Maybe something like “hi (her name) thanks for making (insert festival) that much better. Got your number from (insert person) hope you dont mind.” Feel free to chime in redditors, maybe idk wtf im talking about.
/r/seduction23/06/25 09:25 PM
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Crazy women do exist out there in the world, and some are not above lying about you or stalking in retaliation.
/r/seduction23/06/25 09:10 PM
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Your vitriol is only confirmation that I am spot on. Doesnt mean you dont love your mom and vice versa, but theres def some trauma there. Im just throwin too much analysis too fast. I know that saying it’s clear why she walked away is mean, that’s the point. If you say something mean to someone trying to help, you deserve a mean response.
/r/seduction20/06/25 05:48 PM
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I was trying to help, but now I see why she walked away if that’s your reply. Good luck out there.
/r/seduction20/06/25 05:41 PM
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Yep. It says enough. You scared her off. It’s all good though, dont be hard on yourself about it. You should find a strong male therapist and dig into talking about your relationship with your mom and how it made you feel growing up so you can address the inner beliefs and feelings that are driving this strong desire to solve those feelings through a romantic relationship. Healthy, long lasting relationships dont work till both parties are aware of and largely healed their childhood traumas anyw…
/r/seduction20/06/25 05:34 PM
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That’s not ghosting. That’s both of you not reaching out. To me, ghosting is someone sending a text that clearly expects a response that never gets a response.
/r/seduction20/06/25 04:57 PM
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Exactly
/r/seduction18/06/25 03:10 PM
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My “deep” conversations are typically characterized by philosophy, and analyzing relationships/culture. Ive learned it can be a mood killer. I think that’s why you said flirting and sexual tension needs to still be thrown in cause you realize there is a bit of a dichotomy between deep convos and attraction.
/r/seduction17/06/25 04:11 PM
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My guess is that if she truly was fresh back to the dating scene, there was a guy who out-competed you. Your perception of connection could be correct, yet she just cant resist trying out this other guy who checks more of her boxes. I dont think enough time went by to definitively say ghosted, but back-burnered yes, while she tries the other guy.
/r/seduction17/06/25 10:24 AM
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Agreed. I think the two main reasons ppl ghost are: they dont want some kind of retaliation/guilt trip text back. And/or, they want you as a back burner option.
/r/seduction17/06/25 10:18 AM
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/r/seduction17/06/25 10:15 AM
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I dont think thats obvious. They could be great, but theres still this other guy who’s hotter/checks more of her boxes that she was hoping to see on friday.
/r/seduction17/06/25 10:13 AM
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K but “hasnt” kissed anyone on those dates (supposedly) so that cant be a whole lot of dates since that “year off”
/r/seduction17/06/25 10:11 AM
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Thing is… she wants a rebound, so if not him, it’ll just be someone else.
/r/seduction15/06/25 07:51 PM
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Right, i bet there were guys who told her they liked her and they weren’t getting their calls returned.
/r/seduction15/06/25 07:41 PM
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Yea but you realize a guy telling you he likes you, only works when you ALREADY like him. But we’re talking about the initial attraction that made you wish for him to tell you he likes you.
/r/seduction15/06/25 07:38 PM
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Not never on the cheek. You can do a cheek sometimes. But def agree with #3. Build up a little comfort with touch before the kiss attempt. And in general i think it’s best to go for the kiss DURING the date when a magnetic moment is happening instead of at the expected, built up moment at her car door.
/r/seduction14/06/25 06:52 PM
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So she was flirting, and you froze and didnt know how to flirt back in that moment. That’s happened to me sooo many times. But a lot less after practicing.
/r/seduction14/06/25 04:17 PM
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Tale as old as time. You have trauma/issues at a deep level from childhood that will surface and confuse you as you get into romantic relationships. Thing is, it’s something that has to be worked on and confronted largely to a personal degree, independent of your romantic relationships (though its fine to keep having those relationships and get triggered by them), and there arent healthy/well adjusted ppl that will stick around once they notice this significant emotional damage/dependence in som…
/r/seduction13/06/25 02:28 AM
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Yea dont say fuck u for asking. Just move on if it’s someone so inconsiderate that it got to that point.
/r/seduction11/06/25 01:56 PM
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The irony is not that it’s loaded with simps but that so many of the incels are dolling out advice.
/r/seduction11/06/25 01:49 PM
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This is pretty akin to saying “just have high self esteem” which is definitely a huge part of attracting women, and something to strive for, but requires transformation over a long time span if it didnt form in childhood so, one post is not gonna be a revelation.
/r/seduction09/06/25 01:00 PM
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I dont think cold approaching at 43 is creepy, but i do think covertly filming it kinda is. Unless that’s not what you meant by “videos”
/r/seduction09/06/25 02:16 AM
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For sure, especially if you now find yourself on a date with a person who’s initial chemistry was based on a strategy that doesnt represent the actual you. Just keep that in mind lol
/r/seduction08/06/25 03:23 PM
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Huh? In my experience, and what ive seen, women love having the bf as the excuse instead of having to say no. It’s extremely rare women just flat out say no, with no excuse.
/r/seduction08/06/25 05:46 AM
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Being aware of the number of ppl you’ve slept with is gross, but comparing women to fish you mount on the wall is…um…?😅
/r/seduction08/06/25 04:27 AM
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There are definitely chemistry nuances that come from direct eye contact only.
/r/seduction08/06/25 03:49 AM
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Are you just gonna form an algorithm that plans for each contingency until you have a map that leads to a date?🤣
/r/seduction08/06/25 02:07 AM
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Not personally attacking you but i really hate that second one. To me, “have we met” when you know you haven’t is kinda the slimy equivalent of asking a woman for directions when you know exactly where something is.
/r/seduction07/06/25 09:38 PM
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You left out safety which is like the prerequisite for all that.
/r/seduction06/06/25 08:27 PM
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I disagree with the others here and agree with you. If she just wants some side action, and you just want a casual fling, the immorality lies with her. As long as you’re not bringing lying on your part into the equation. However, i would avoid married women cause id rather not accumulate men that are looking to off me.
/r/seduction06/06/25 03:12 PM
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That’s a post feeling rationalization of a deep instinct from millennia of evolution. We used to live exclusively in tribes and there was a hierarchy, beautiful women being intrinsically higher up on that hierarchy. If you approach a beautiful woman in the tribe who’s not already part of your “circle” you will be harshly evaluated by the group to see if youre worthy, or worse, the high status males who claim her may literally beat you to death if she gets upset.
/r/seduction06/06/25 03:06 PM
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Call it insecurity if you want but the vast majority of guys will feel nervous approaching a beautiful woman you dont know in a new environment. It’s hard wired from evolution.
/r/seduction06/06/25 01:00 PM
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Why the birds thing? Look inhumane for keeping it in a cage? Look like a socially awkward dork?
/r/seduction05/06/25 10:12 PM
4

Theres also the factor that it’s the internet and you can claim whatever you want.
/r/seduction05/06/25 09:19 PM
3

So these graphic sexual descriptions get through but my post talking about the psychology of preselection gets deleted?
/r/seduction05/06/25 09:18 PM
39

What was humble about it?
/r/seduction05/06/25 09:16 PM
1

First off, socializing is very important to happiness, and going long periods without sex negatively effects men’s mental health generally. Are you really this stud who’s having so much success with cold approach that it’s this absolute distraction to other healing processes? Cause i dont see why you cant do both.
/r/seduction05/06/25 01:46 PM
2

You could say “what do you think my type is?” Which could open the gate to a whole opportunity of good directions for the convo.
/r/seduction05/06/25 01:40 PM
1

To me this buys into her frame and sounds like you have low self esteem.
/r/seduction05/06/25 01:37 PM
3

Yes on paper you’re not doing anything “wrong” if you tell her you want to date for fun and will never be long term. But theyre just words. Actions speak much louder and sleeping together and spending cutsey lovey-dovey time together has it’s impact no matter what label you put on it, so keep that in mind.
/r/seduction05/06/25 02:22 AM
1

Just for the fun of the discussion, why do you say especially a 5? Cause I agree. I think much more attractive women have so many options that they’re less likely to latch onto you and punish you if you leave. Is that why u say that?
/r/seduction05/06/25 02:19 AM
21

Yea, but even that is just words. Actions speak louder than words, so you’re still leading them on.
/r/seduction05/06/25 02:11 AM
11

The number one mistake is probably not flirting/vibing, and the interaction becomes an info exchange instead of a clearly romantic one.
/r/seduction04/06/25 02:34 PM
0

Yes, but theyre hard to eat in general.
/r/seduction03/06/25 10:49 PM
6

I have a couple questions: Can we rule out a bad breath situation? Can you think of any things you’ve said that made you come off as needy or showing you believe she’ll abandon you? Cause when you get a pattern going like that, its really hard not to believe it’ll keep happening. So you might be unconsciously indicating you believe that.
/r/seduction03/06/25 04:33 PM
4

Tbh it did not make sense to me.
/r/seduction03/06/25 01:23 PM
7

Rule 1: what you feel, they feel (not just women, anyone). So, all the game in the world cant save you if you are miserable and conflicted inside.
/r/seduction03/06/25 01:18 PM
2

Just go up to a guy and be like “i love your outfit.” Then look him in the eyes, smile and wink at him. If he seems to be getting the wrong idea, say “I’m just tryna find a guy to go out with.”
/r/seduction02/06/25 08:24 PM
3

Its seems like youre kinda looking for permission to just be yourself, trust your intuition and not worry so much about the dating “rules” and “tactics”. Yea, let it go if it feels better and you need to develop your basic emotional peace. That doesnt mean dont go out and meet ppl, but being in your head during interactions so that you do them “right” is not fun for you or anyone else. The way i approach it is, i focus on being myself, and if the social insights I consume from content happen to …
/r/seduction01/06/25 02:20 PM
1

One thing no one mentioned yet is: just cause she approached you, doesnt mean she wants to play the guy in the role. You’d still need to get the dynamic to flip back to you as the man and her as the woman, meaning you’re leading the interaction. If you get too passive then she’ll get bored.
/r/seduction30/05/25 08:18 PM
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Well it’s not about the car obviously. If youre not happy with someone youre not happy. Is this a good sub for this advice though ? Honest question cause idk this sub.
/r/RedPillWomen27/05/25 04:24 PM
5

I started that way too—its a dead end.
/r/seduction27/05/25 05:00 AM
36

I try to remind myself that any aspect of courtship that feels unfair as a man pursuing a woman, has mostly to do with evolution, it’s how our species evolved, so if I want to win that “game” and be happy, I have to play as the rules ARE, not how I WANT them to be. But if the debate comes up, ill be honest about double standards, not deny them through a smile.
/r/seduction27/05/25 04:45 AM
1

Yea but a huge part of self esteem is knowing you will take action to get what you want and being a 25 yo male whos never had a woman, means he is desperately longing for that on a core level, so he should do both what you said AND make strides to get women.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:22 PM
13

Start extremely small, like saying “hi” to ppl as you pass in public. Then ramp up to making a comment to a woman. Then asking questions or doing a convo starter. These are “throw away” interactions with ppl you will likely never see again. All this will help with your comfort and confidence if you get online dates.
/r/seduction26/05/25 03:16 PM
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Evolutionary psyche. Imagine primitive humans, man and woman encountering in the wilderness, asking what we should do for a date is like the primitive man saying “where are the resources? Where are the places connected to community where it’s safe?” The woman will think you dont already know those things, so she’ll find a different man who can lead her there, as a protector and provider.
/r/seduction26/05/25 01:13 PM
1

Im saying, lets assume it’s true. Why do you think that is?
/r/seduction26/05/25 12:00 AM
1

Till you start objectifying them and they come out of the woodwork.
/r/seduction25/05/25 09:20 PM
12

Im saying any attractive woman has a default assumption that her date wants to sleep with her, and not escalating physically is more likely to be interpreted as a deficit with you or a lack of chemistry rather than her thinking “he’s not interested in me.”
/r/seduction25/05/25 09:16 PM
51

No she’ll still know you want her, but she’ll just intuitively think “theres no chemistry” or maybe even consciously think youre inexperienced/timid.
/r/seduction25/05/25 09:08 PM
128

Women are so emotionally driven that they often think theres chemistry when theres touch, and no chemistry when theres not.
/r/seduction25/05/25 09:07 PM
2

Im curious, what is your assessment as to why non-white women seem to treat you worse than white women?
/r/seduction25/05/25 07:51 PM
1

Yea im saying dont be too hard on yourself for bailing on an interaction that has no vibe or connection after a solid 90 seconds of trying. If you’re clicking and you leave simply cause you’re afraid of escalating, thats when I’d reflect.
/r/seduction25/05/25 02:09 AM
1

“Dont bail before you fail” should be rarely applied as a way to desensitize to rejection but not as a default. Can you imagine if you only ever left ppl alone when they clearly indicate they want you to leave? Especially at a local bar you frequent?
/r/seduction24/05/25 03:34 PM
18

Its not smart. If youre trying to sell a ford fiat, you dont park it on the lot next to the mustang.
/r/seduction22/05/25 09:42 PM
5

This is the reason.
/r/seduction22/05/25 09:41 PM
1

It just takes one outburst/error like you described to ruin your chances. I used to think “why is one little fuck up such a big deal?” But ive come to learn: it’s an error that high level ppl almost never make, so she can safely use a heuristic to assume youre not at that level. If I play tennis with a new partner and im assessing their skill level, one error is no big deal, but if that one error is them accidentally hitting the ball over the court fence, i can be pretty confident an experienced…
/r/seduction16/05/25 06:12 PM
1

I disagree with anyone saying anything over two years is ok. You may think you havent changed, but that’s cause you see yourself everyday and outside observers can tell. You dont want their first impression to be of disappointment, if anything you want them to think “oh, cuter in person.”
/r/seduction16/05/25 05:29 PM
3

If it’s not that there was something wrong with the sex, sounds like youre saying there wasnt, then could be these women dont want to seem too easy and want you to know they expect more than just sex. So give them a date or two, then invite over.
/r/seduction15/05/25 10:07 PM
2

Just gonna add, i think we forget sometimes that these labels “wife/gf” are just abstractions in our heads, it’s still a man hanging out with a woman, so all the tried and true stuff should work unless you’re repetitive/predictable.
/r/seduction15/05/25 04:55 AM
3

Ok, still didnt answer my question.
/r/seduction15/05/25 02:33 AM
2

How did you “simply tell him to leave?”
/r/seduction14/05/25 03:19 PM
1

Theres an exception: if she is being bothered by the other guy, chasing him away would be strength.
/r/seduction14/05/25 03:18 PM
1

Systematic desensitization like “sharp” said. In a populated area start with just saying hi to dudes. Then women, then comments, then back and forth convos.
/r/seduction14/05/25 04:35 AM
12

He’s prob bi and wants to sleep with her too and his ego wouldnt let him back down.
/r/seduction13/05/25 07:36 PM
1

Continue to get your social needs met across a diversity of settings and ppl so that you dont rely 100% on her for them. Take time for yourself when you need it, and give her a sense that she has plenty of space when she feels she needs it. Take it from a guy who’s never been passed 3 months 🥴
/r/seduction13/05/25 07:05 PM
1

For cold approach,If you really are decent looking, the vast majority of guys will be open to a random convo about anything in almost any setting. But then you have the issue of them thinking you like them, so you have to be ready and comfortable of how you decline when someone you dont like asks for the number.
/r/seduction13/05/25 04:55 PM
1

For the moments that are more straight forward you gave us explicit quotes of the convo “wanna do yoga w me?” but the parts where I wanted explicit quotes you said —i teased her a bit—i broke the touch barrier and gave her a shoulder rub.
/r/seduction13/05/25 02:15 PM
5

2nd date? Not a big deal at all. I wouldnt have even suggested that.
/r/seduction13/05/25 02:40 AM
5

I dont think youre fishing for sympathy, but youre fishing for a little push, which is necessary sometimes cause it’s fucking hard 😆. So yea, dont give up. You know the answer. Doesnt mean you have to try to become Mystery, but dont lie to yourself and find “peace” with going full porn/incel.
/r/seduction12/05/25 08:06 PM
1

I think it’s less social conditioning and more an indication you had a parent that was not able to cultivate that skill in you and worse, made you feel you had to deny your intuition to get along with them. There are plenty of ppl in the world who have no trouble following their intuition and they live in the exact same society as those of us who have trouble.
/r/seduction12/05/25 07:53 PM
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I love push pull, its tons of fun. One thing ive noticed: dont try to force the push and the pull to come in the same statement/moment—if u can naturally great, but otherwise it’s best to have a push (or pull) in one moment, then moments later, do the reverse. Ive tried to force them to come simultaneously and it comes off like a jerk—not the attractive kind lol
/r/seduction12/05/25 04:16 PM
2

For ppl like me who have grown up with deep mental/emotional issues “be yourself” is simultaneously the worst and best advice. It ties into the paradox of needing to grow/change but largely that growth involves: listening more to your own intuition and being less inhibited—which in other words is being MORE yourself. But when those things dont come naturally it takes effort to change so it feels kinda paradoxical but it’s an artful balance to realize when to apply that effort, and when to reduce…
/r/seduction12/05/25 02:57 PM
1

You lumped 68 year old tom hanks in with justin bieber as an object of lust 🤣 Tbh if it was me, I’d only be stuck on this one girl if i could feel we had great chemistry and connection (in convo! Not one glance lol). But it sounds like you want her cause shes really cute, and in proximity to you which means dozens of other guys do too. So start small and test the waters with some unique comment about her or the store/town events or something and see if she starts to share opinions, if you feel t…
/r/seduction11/05/25 05:25 PM
9

I definitely would not do a letter, maybe if it was 1950 and you were over seas lol. Side note (pun not intended): one thing ive noticed, if you approach women when they’re in a position where they feel cornered or expected to talk to you, they look at it as weak, like as a default generally.
/r/seduction11/05/25 05:11 AM
1

So you’ve been seeing eachother a month, did a 3 day vacation and have never had sex with eachother? Never made out?
/r/seduction11/05/25 12:00 AM
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I think it’s more to do with the goal was never really to be her “friend” in the first place. No matter how much men may wanna lie to themselves about that.
/r/seduction10/05/25 03:32 PM
2

For those of us who are not truly ladies men, having a close attractive female friend definitely valuable: insight how women think, practice with comfort, practice roasting, holding convos, touching even, and a boost in confidence theres a woman who enjoys your company.
/r/seduction10/05/25 03:30 PM
2

Yes, rare in today’s modern civilization. But through most of human history we live in tribes, the beautiful women towards the top of the hierarchy, and if “unworthy” men dare try to romance her, those men will be shunned and challenged by her and/or the tribe to see if he’s fit. If he upsets her, his status in the eyes of the tribe drops dramatically, or worse, the actual worthy men pummel him to death. So that fear has evolved as an instinct when you know youre not an “alpha”. And that’s one r…
/r/seduction09/05/25 03:54 AM
3

You’ve nailed it about why approach anxiety is so high—beautiful women are intrinsically valued and if you upset her, your status can go down or worse, some alpha will threaten you to protect her. But it is hardwired as an instinct much more than a conscious reflection of the consequences.
/r/seduction09/05/25 03:46 AM
1

Say if she doesnt go out with you, you’ll fall into a great depression.
/r/seduction07/05/25 05:52 AM
1

Fuck… yea. Ive finally learned to not repeatedly ask if i get an initial no. I used to be like “not today? K, how bout tomorrow?” It’s death. U build a “no ladder”
/r/seduction07/05/25 05:31 AM
1

You said “while bar hopping” so hooking up in the bathroom? And how much sober time together? Cause she coulda really liked you while drunk but just not remember it well the next day.
/r/seduction07/05/25 05:26 AM
1

Well its simple and doesnt even have that much to do with gender. If a stranger spends an hour helping you, then they try to exchange numbers, the vast majority of ppl will just do it cause it’s too awkward to be like “yea thanks for the help but i never wanna see you again.”
/r/seduction07/05/25 05:07 AM
7

If you dont think most women would feel pressure to say yes to phone number exchange after someone just helped them move than you’re naive.
/r/seduction06/05/25 08:09 PM
5

The “lesson” seems legit but i wanna learn it first-hand.
/r/seduction06/05/25 06:53 PM
3

Thanks validation/scam bot 🤗
/r/seduction06/05/25 06:46 PM
34

Mods across reddit love their little gate keeping job. It’s so dumb. Anyway, you already got tons of comments and likes on your last post so why repost, is internet validation that important?
/r/seduction06/05/25 04:22 PM
2

O ok nice.
/r/seduction06/05/25 04:01 PM
1

But by virtue of the question and this context there is a deeper agenda—attracting the person.
/r/seduction06/05/25 02:58 PM
43

Thats cool, props, but if you’d like, make an edit on this post when the date actually happens. The cynic in me knows a woman will accept help moving and then feel obligated to accept a date proposal. Anyway, its a win either way but curious to know how it unfolds.
/r/seduction06/05/25 02:56 PM
1

What you feel they feel.
/r/seduction06/05/25 01:00 PM
2

I think if you go through doc, they’ll refer you to a psychiatrist and a psychiatrist will recommend medication cause that’s what they do. But you dont wanna throw pills at something unless you’ve already really worked at behavioral therapy for a good while. Anyway, if you have insurance, find out which psychologists are in network, and call every single one of the male therapists office to see if theyll take a first session. From there you have to trust your gut as to if the therapist seems com…
/r/seduction05/05/25 05:57 PM
2

It’s really unfair, some of us had some kind of trauma or inadequate guidance growing up (myself included 38m) and it’s a LONG road to uncover whats going on. So, get into therapy (with a male therapist), keep trying, and go easy on yourself as in—no pressure to constantly be working at the dating thing, but remind yourself that the only alternative is to give up and you dont want that.
/r/seduction05/05/25 12:35 AM
2

One factor no one has mentioned yet is how they witness others treating you. For instance, even if you’re unkempt, and timid looking, if there are already women talking to you, new one’s will be afraid to come at you with disrespect. It’s a circular solution but a reality.
/r/seduction05/05/25 12:26 AM
2

Im picturing the guy chiming in with a relevant comment like “that’s a great supplement, it’s helped me alot” and youre like “whoooaaa there, stop hitting on me bro I told you im not interested”🤡🤣
/r/seduction04/05/25 11:53 PM
1

Right, so, you move on, thats how thats accomplished. But u want to spite her or?
/r/seduction04/05/25 09:41 PM
1

Side note i just realized: it happens less not just when u look more confident as a man, but if outside men see the woman having fun like she likes you, it’s more intimidating for them to butt in.
/r/seduction04/05/25 09:14 PM
1

Im still not good at dealing with this situation, just saying it happens less now. But, my first reaction is: do not engage with the guy more than is absolutely necessary. Dont feel obligated to interact with him out of politeness. But remember, whoever is holding the most fun vibe in that dynamic is likely to hold the power.
/r/seduction04/05/25 09:09 PM
4

Thanks bot.
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:57 PM
1

Hmm… i could see that working, but also going poorly if second dude is entering with a lot of fun friendly energy.
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:54 PM
1

Yea, there really is a personal nature to it. If guy sense weakness, he looks at it as an opportunity to white night and ride coat tails of less confident guy to steal girl. It happened to me more in past, now that im gaining confidence, happens less.
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:46 PM
1

I think the op said this guy invited himself and she was accepted his self invitation to join them for drinks. What then? How do u uninvite him, or maybe u just dont go?
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:43 PM
6

I agree. Despite the down votes here and many upvotes there, i think pretending hes hitting on u could be very socially uncalibrated but also realize things can be way diff in person then on paper.
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:28 PM
1

Not judging cause i know how hard this is, but i find gaming without blatant lying leads to a deeper confidence, congruence and more satisfaction. If those stories arent fabricated, disregard.
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:21 PM
1

Yea unfortunately u have to vibe non-verbally first. But then if you wanna exchange a couple basics or flirty comments, you have an excuse to lean in close to her ear and can keep your deep voice.
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:15 PM
1

If thats truly the case its an opportunity to look kinda bad-boy AND an excuse to make the interaction quick: “hi, dont have long, these waiter guards will be on my case any second, but i…(insert suave pick up artist shit that’s over my head) would love to learn who you are”
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:10 PM
0

You say you dont care if she ever texts back but “not wanting to look like a nice guy” is caring. So, just accept it’s out of your control, acknowledge to yourself that it hurts when ppl do that, and move on to someone/something else.
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:04 PM
1

Since no one else said it yet: most crucial piece feeling comfortable holding eye contact, is feeling comfortable within yourself period. So inner game stuff like: exercise, meditation and sometimes for me—a good cry (not during the eye contact😅) But outer game—confronting fear of strangers—helps that inner comfort, so warm up on strangers who you’re totally fine being rejected by, and you’ll feel more confidence for the ladies.
/r/seduction04/05/25 07:50 PM
1

Yea but i didnt know how to respond to “ive enjoyed our conversation”. I guess i coulda been like “ill let you get back to talking to your sister, but id like to talk to you again in a different context” (to feel out a number close)
/r/seduction04/05/25 07:36 PM
1

she was kinda smiling and holding eye contact. but it was weird.
/r/seduction04/05/25 06:03 PM
2

Lesson learned lol
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:01 AM
2

K much apreesh.
/r/seduction04/05/25 07:34 AM
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